The Second Time Around

What does it really mean to make your marriage a priority? In this episode, LaShan and Makela explore the importance of protecting the relationship that serves as the foundation of the family. As careers, children, finances, ministry, and everyday responsibilities compete for our attention, couples can easily lose sight of the commitment that brought them together.

Through honest conversation, biblical insi...

In this Thanksgiving episode, we pull up chairs to a table that has changed shape over the years—because family doesn’t always look like the picture we grew up imagining. 🦃✨ As a blended crew with adult children, shifting traditions, and schedules that never sync, we’ve had to redefine what “family time” really means.

We get honest about the messy, beautiful, emotional reality of gathering during the ...

In this episode, a nod to Jon B.’s classic “They Don’t Know,” we dive into what it means to build real love in a world obsessed with filters, trends, and everybody having something to say about relationships they’re not in. 🎶💬

We open up about navigating the age gap between us and the 20- and 30-somethings in our lives, kids, couples, younger family members, and even the culture as a whole. What they...

Can you hear the Emotions...” Don’t ask my neighbor?” 

This episode is all about protecting what’s sacred in a world that wants access to everything. 🔐❤️ These days, everybody posts everything — relationships, arguments, screenshots, wins, losses… and opinions fly faster than love can grow.

We open up about how we keep our relationship covered, grounded, and private in an era where ov...

As we bring The Perfect 10 Month to a close, this episode is both a heartfelt toast to the decade behind us — and a hopeful nod to everything still ahead.

In this final chapter of our anniversary celebration, we’re talking about legacy, longevity, and love that grows deeper with time. But this isn’t just a recap, it’s a vision cast. Together, we share our individual hopes, our unified dreams, and the things ...

As we continue the Perfect 10 Month, we’re turning up the volume on love, memory, and music. This episode is a smooth, soulful ride through the soundtrack of our 10-year journey — the tracks that made us dance, cry, laugh, reflect, and fall deeper in love, time and time again.

Inspired by the legendary R&B and gospel songs that marked each milestone, The Perfect 10 Playlist isn’t just a collection of music &md...

In Part 2 of “Between the Pulpit and the Spotlight,” we’re not looking back—we’re sitting right in the middle of one of the hardest seasons of our marriage. This isn’t about dating as ministers anymore. We’re married now. But life is life-ing, and ministry… it’s heavier than we imagined.

This episode is raw. Not past tense pain—present tense pressure.

We open up about: 💬...

This isn’t just another episode—it’s the rawest conversation we’ve ever released.

We continue “The Perfect Ten Month” by going back to the beginning, before we were “us,” before the vows, before the clarity. When we were just two ministers trying to figure out how to honor our calling and explore a connection that almost got shut down before it ever had a chance to start.

This is the ...

In Part 2 of “10 Moments That Made Us,” Makela shares her ten defining moments that shaped this love story—her version, her view, and her voice.

This episode is honest, tender, and full of those moments only Makela can tell—from quiet realizations to full-circle affirmations. These aren’t just highlights; they’re the behind-the-scenes snapshots, the personal pivots, and the little things that mea...

This episode is the start of something special: The Perfect Ten Month—a celebration of 10 years of love, faith, growth, and grace.

In Part 1, LaShan takes a moment to reflect and reveal the 10 moments that shaped this marriage and molded this ministry of love. This isn’t just a timeline—it’s a testimony. These moments are the quiet shifts, the major milestones, and the divine intersections that took “m...

🎙️ Sweet Love: Covering Each Other with Grace

The Second Time Around Podcast – Season 2, Episode 13 Tagline: Grace. Growth. Gentleness… The Second Time Around.

🎶 “With all my heart, I love you baby…” – Anita Baker, Sweet Love (1986)

This one’s for the couples learning that love isn’t just sweet—it’s sacrificial. That real love doesn’t just celebrate the best in e...

🎶 “Joy and pain... like sunshine and rain.” – Frankie Beverly & Maze (1980)

Let’s be real—marriage isn’t always magic. Sometimes it’s messy, mundane, and full of moments that test your heart and stretch your faith. But even in those everyday tensions, grace still shows up.

In this episode, we talk about how we’re learning to find God’s grace in the ordinary, not just the &l...

🎶 “Anytime… anyplace… I don’t care who’s around…” – Janet Jackson (1993)

Let’s talk about grown love—the kind that still flirts, still surprises, and still gets butterflies… even after bills, babies, and busy schedules.

In this episode, we explore what it takes to keep romance alive and fun flowing in a committed, God-centered marriage. It’s not about bein...

🎶 “Like sweet morning dew, I took one look at you… and it was plain to see, you were my destiny.” – Mary J. Blige & Method Man (1995)

This week, we’re talkin’ about that ride-or-die, God-ordained, built-for-purpose kind of love. The kind that doesn’t just survive life—it builds legacy through it.

In this episode, we unpack what it really means to walk in Kingdom purpose as a cou...

🎶 “You’re all I like, you’re all I want, you’re all I need, you’re all I love.” – Guy

This week, we’re drawing from a New Jack Swing classic and a timeless truth: when love is real, you fight for it… with faith.

In this episode, we discuss how prayer became our lifeline during the challenging seasons of our marriage, the moments when communication broke down. When grief hit, w...

🎶 “No more pain… no more drama in my life…” – Mary J. Blige (2001)

This week, we’re not just quoting the Queen—we’re living the lyrics.

In this episode, we’re talkin’ all about boundaries—not the buzzword, but the biblical blueprint that helps protect your peace and preserve your relationship. Because you can’t build real love in chaos... and you sure can&rs...

🎶 “Slow down, baby… lovin’ ain’t going nowhere…” – Mary J. Blige, What’s the 411? (1992)

Mary said it best. Real love takes time, especially when you’re learning to trust again.

In this episode, we open up about what it really took to rebuild trust in our marriage, after carrying the scars of past hurts and our own missteps. From honesty and emotional safety to prayer and pat...

🎶 “All this love is waiting for you…” Sometimes love doesn’t show up the way you planned—but when God writes the story, the ending is always worth it.

In this episode, we’re opening up about how we found our way back to love after heartbreak—and how God gave us the grace to heal, forgive, and try again. It wasn’t easy. Trust had to be rebuilt. Pride had to fall. And faith had to lea...

🎶 “We laugh just a little too loud… stand just a little too close…” Love hits different when you’ve lived long enough to know: sometimes laughter is ministry, and growth doesn’t come without a few bumps.

In this episode, we get real, and really funny, about the quirks, inside jokes, and “you had to be there” moments that make our marriage what it is. But it’s not all laughs. ...