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October 9, 2024 15 mins

Do you have a wall screaming for attention? Resene Colour Expert Brenda Ngatai discusses how to make a feature wall work, the importance of balance and adapting colour trends to your own home.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, and welcome to If These Walls Could Talk, The
Razine podcast where we discuss ideas on decorating color and
all things paint. Join us as we welcome guests from
across the world of design. If there's something you'd love
to hear about, email the team editor at habitat bar
Razine dot co dot nz.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Today we're welcoming back Brenda NATAI.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Now, Brenda, let's get straight back into those Razine paint colors.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
What are you seeing more of and less of? Neutrals?

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Wise from one aspect, but also bold color choices. You know,
if people have got a feature wall or an accent
that we were talking about before, are they swaying towards
you know, more yellows, more reds you were talking about
the mustards?

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, you know, fronteriors.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
It's all often like a white or an off white
as your main theme color for an interior, and people
will often ask is a statement wall still a thing?

Speaker 2 (00:58):
And it totally is.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Sometimes you can walk in and there's one bare lonely
war screaming. Now it needs something attention, It needs absolute attention.
So I try and pack those out and then pointed
out and if we did a pop of color here
that would be really really gorgeous as long as it's
really balanced up in the space.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah, and I think that's a real key to edit
a note. You can have a feature wall, it's no problem,
but make sure it's balance.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
It's about everything is balanced and it doesn't look out
of sinc with everything else. So it's getting that balance
as well, which is super important. Popular colors at the
moment are store the really rich, deep charcoals like Bacara gray.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Which is it's one of my favorites. I love that
it's a beautiful hay. There's so many different layers to it.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yeah, it's just so rich and inviting and comforting and
just really really gorgeous and.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Would work in with our landscape as well. Yeah, I
mean that's something you really could do country and city.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
You could. Indeed, it's delicious, totally could.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Don't just regard generally speaking soft dusky pinks, because they
are also there are some beautiful, beautiful pinks, you know.
I went to the show Home not so long ago,
and they did the whole entire room and it was
a separate room. It was the lounge room, so it
had its own identity. It was a complete separate room.

(02:20):
Sometimes a room like that you can do color on
all of the walls because it's its own room. There's
it's not open plan, and where do you stop and
where do you start?

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Absolutely once stay alone? Yeah, yeah, totally.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
And it was just this really burnt, gorgeous dusky pink,
delicious it was. It just worked so beautifully, and they
had dressed it and it had lighted himber flooring and
they had dressed it and it just worked beautifully.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
So even colors like that, it's.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
A very gentle tone, gentle dusky pink, you feel so
very peaceful.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Absolutely, and that's what it was.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
And it was on all of the walls, and it
would have been just a gorgeous space to chill out in.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah, seeing a shy away from those soft pinks.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Before we specify colors, we always take everything else into accounts,
so that the colors, like the carpet is that stay,
and is the kitchen what's happening with the kitchen?

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Is that changing? What is it changing?

Speaker 3 (03:13):
To find out all this all this groundwork of course first,
and then we'll specify some good colors that you will love.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Tell me about how the color families came about like
the heritage colors. So the heritage colors came about with
we have heritage homes and they are listed through council,
I believe, and they need to be kept original as possible.
So Razines developed a heritage color chart mid eighteen hundreds

(03:46):
to late eighteen hundreds to early nineteen hundreds to the sixties.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Got that's a broad so the color it is it is.
I think the.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Interesting thing about the Razine Heritage range is that while
you know, homes that are actually listed need to have
those and can only have those applied to them, if
someone's wanting to take a connection from that period, they
can go to that range and.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah, oh actually there's a palette that I really love.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yeah, and then I'm connecting my home with the heritage style. Yes,
because sometimes for people it's just wanting to make a
connection with an era. That's true. Do you think warpaper's
coming back into style? He said, Oh, yeah, wallpaper's great.
When I was a kid, we had in my bedroom
we had this wallpaper that was I don't know, tiny
little flowers.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
And we used to lie there and pick it off.
Your mom would have loved that.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Mom just was there besides yourself about it. But we
just lie there and tell stories because we shed I
she had a bedroom with my sister and just pick
it off telling stories, you know, go to bed at
the summer time and was still daylight at seven.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
O'clock to go to bed because they had this routine.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Anyway, today there are just so many cool, beautiful, fabulous
ideas of wallpapers that.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Some of it just looked like a It's extraordinary, isn't it.
I've seen murals, you know, the single drop absolutely moldy.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah, just so beautiful, really beautiful. So yes, specifying wall
paper a lot, very rarely. It's for like a rental
property and they'll just order a house load of textured
wall paper so that softens the walls. Sometimes the walls
a little bit wobbly or imperfections, so a thicker type
of textured wallpaper will help hide that. It'll keep the

(05:27):
warmth in as well, and then they just you know.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Which is lovely.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
I mean, I don't know that people are aware that
using wall paper with a texture actually will bring warmth
into the room.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
Can keep in warmth here, Yeah, totally. So there is
that side. As for a practical use of wall paper,
or patterned wall paper.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
What are the trends are you seeing with textured walls?

Speaker 3 (05:48):
Right now, there is plastered walls that are making quite
a big comeback. It's our Sandtex is the product add
color to it, so the colors are different and the style,
the way that you apply it is different today, so
it just brings in another You may have seen it
on the block the last.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Block, right, yes, I think I know what it's talking about.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
All of them had this textured plastered wall which looked
really amazing and beautiful. And so that is coming into
play as well as a point of difference as well
as wallpaper and people are to be really safe and
to have like impact in a great element of surprise
of powder rooms.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Love a good powder que taste.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Yeah, so so cute and you really can go you
can really go to town easy and it's a it's
an easy and the biggest scheme of things. It's an
easy change if you need to change it, absolutely you know.
So yeah, so you kind of go dark and optenent
with crazy wallpaper totally could absolutely absolutely because often there's
no windows in that No, that's right to turn the
light on and the person that walks and it's like,

(06:49):
oh my god, it's like a It's like a June exactly.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Is that wonderful thing when you walk into a house
and it can seem very sort of you know, minimalistic, elegant,
and you pop into the bathroom. Wow, exactly, get this
really great element of surprise, burst of personality.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
It's like the front door. You can connect those too.
It is. You're right though, it's a lovely opportunity to
be playful. And I think that's with wallpaper.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
You can kind of you can go sort of textured
and gentle and cozy, or you can kind of go
this is my art. Yes, instead of buying a piece
of artwork, you can create it by just having a
beautiful Razine wallpaper asolutely.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
We've got another innovative idea from our website, and it's
create your own. So you can if you've got like
a favorite photograph or wonderful taken you know, a photograph
or an old family photograph or whatever location or lavish holiday,
meaningful something you know to you personally, as long as

(07:45):
the pixels are.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Sharp enough so high resolution high there is. Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
You can upload that onto Razine website and it's called warprint.
Everything is there for you to fill in for the mentions,
the size of the room. You just fill it in
what they're asking you to do and where the light
switches and that sort of thing, and then if it's
high excellent quality, they'll go yet good to go, and
then they will print that for you and send it back.

(08:13):
The outcome is really beautiful if it's sent back out
to you in numbered drops, and then you just put
it up as you would normal wallpaper. One of the
trade guys showed us what he had done and it
was of his at the time. His fourteen year old
son was a gun skateboarder and he caught him up
in the air and this really cool looking you know,

(08:33):
just cool hoose. Yeah, an action action guy. So he
did that for his son and put it in his room.
It looked amazing, how incredibly really cool. So yeah, it's
just another just.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Another angle and another angle. What he can do. It's
wonderful and that's really personalizing it.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yes, yeah, do you think that would work if people
created their own artwork and then they photographed that, my resolution,
that's the key, and then they can literally have their
own art made into what they can make.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Their own wallpaper. Yeah, yeah, a wonderful tool.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah yeah, you know, we've got color, we've got wallpaper,
but if you can really personalize a space, and that's
quite special.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Sometimes it is, yeah, something really beautiful.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Tell me about some experiences that you've had in your
years of I'm sure you've renovated occasionally something that you've
chosen a color and you've gone, gosh, I wish i'd
done that differently, or one of your learned Brenda.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
What have I learned as well? Here's one.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
So I had just recently been working for Razine and
it's like, right, I'm going to do my lounge. It
was wallpapered. I did everything wrong. I did everything wrong.
I ripped the wallpaper off. I some of the backing
paper was still on there. But I should have just
followed our guidelines that are in the stores and it

(09:51):
takes you from A to B thoroughly. It's excellent. It's
just a really great rate. That's what I should have done,
but I didn't. I was impatient. The old wallpaper. There
was still backing paper on there, and there was still glue,
and I just went undercoated. But it should have really
been a pigmented sealer to lock back the old glue.

(10:11):
I should have skimmed it, which I didn't either, And
then I just went ahead and did two top coats
of this beautiful color that I loved, which was.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Quarter foggy gray.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Love. Yes, really quarter foggy gray. It's such a gorgeous
use color and it's timeless. It is timeless exactly. You've
got some texture to your water, I do. When you
walk in, you wouldn't really notice. But what happened was
the next day I got up and it had bubbled.
I had all bubbled because I hadn't done my preparation properly.
So it was lessons learned, lessons completely learned. Yeah, and

(10:43):
I don't think you're on your own bridge. I think
we've all gone ye little.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yeah, But yeah, preparation, it really is. It's just the
key to, you know, to a fantastic finish.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
In terms of house renovations, people don't always do the
entire house at once, of course, And do you find
that they come in and they want to get the palette,
but they want to just start with one room, start
gently and move forward.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
How do you help them in that way?

Speaker 3 (11:14):
Just recently i've had a customer just like that for
their exterior and interior, and they were doing a future
renovation and that required me to actually go out on
site to get a proper feel of their interior because
that's what was going to be renovated. We did the
exterior in foggy half foggy gray.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Again.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
They were completely wrapped old foggy gray yeah, with Alabasta trim,
So that was easy. The interior, it certainly wasn't challenging,
but it had to be super mindful of their future renovation.
They wanted color in every room, like primary.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Like yeah, deep dark, oh so deep dark, yeah yeah,
lots of shades, lots of shades. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
And with their renovation as well, it was going to
change the kitchen dining lounge sort of layout. The Xterir
is going to be painted quite quickly, but the renovation
wasn't going to be happening for a few months and
they wanted a plan to when they were ready to
move into in the next couple of months.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
So that's what we did.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
The master bedroom was already painted in a really beautiful
Caring Walker color actually, and we discussed the color options
for the other bedrooms and for the media room and
for the open new dining kitchen area. They just wanted
color everywhere. And in this it was a villa. It's
an old, older, gorgeous villa, and they wanted color in

(12:40):
the villa. They didn't like white, and so I kind
of had.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
To help them create a palette. It sounds like, yeah,
definitely that it was cohesive. It had to be cohesive,
and it had to be balanced.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
It needed to be balanced out because sometimes if there's
too much color, it can just clash and compete and
there's nothing to sort of balance it out. So I suggested,
because the hallway was really big and gorgeous and quite ornate,
is just do the hallway in alabaster, which is a nice, clean, crisp,
fresh white. And so I explain the reasons why is

(13:12):
that this white will help balance out the amount of
color that you've gotten. The bedrooms opposite each other, the
media room and the other bedroom opposite each other, and
then color.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
At the back of the house.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
It's like the spine going to it's like the spine,
and which was the one that balanced everything out and
made everything then cohesive and a bit more calm.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
In the end, we went mostly with it.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Was Karen Walker color range because they had already got
one of her colors in the master bedroom that they
were keeping, so we just kind of followed suit.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
I think that's one of the lovely things about Razine's
Karen Walker range is that she has created a palette.
You know, you've got seven palettes to choose from, and
you really can go right, you can work in different.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Areas of the moment with all of them.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Yes, the gorgeous color palette because when you walk and
you know, your home is your castle, and when you're
out there on a really super busy day and you know,
dealing whatever's going on and traffic and all of that,
just to come home and just really go. So, if
we're not in a position to do a full renovation
or a full change of color, what can we do
to just give a wee pop, say, of personality in

(14:20):
our homes.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
You could, you know, you could just do a room.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
You can just take on one room and that can
make the world of difference, you know, to your feeling
of the interior. And that's an easy and easy one
to do, even if it's just a nice, you know,
warm off white or a cooler off white. And then
you could just bring an accents of like cushions and
throws and that sort of thing, just textual text to change.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah yeah, well look, thank you so much for coming
and chatting with me, Brenda.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
I really appreciate it pleasure and we will look forward
to talking to you again.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Cool. Thank you Katrina lovely being here, Thanks.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
A lot, and thank you for joining us on if
these Walls could talk. Remember in those questions through to
editor at habitat b razine dot co dot nz.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
See you next time
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