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September 24, 2024 15 mins

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
With the John and Ben Podcast. Cheers to Dilma making
the world a bitter tea. Hello, well yeah there is right.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yeah, oh yeah, you look you look very recent. You
look very wristed in a wonderful little hotel room there,
I am.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Yes, I've been been enjoying myself. I've been watching the
dirty movies on the.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
Do you still watch dirty movies and hotel rooms? You
know there's the internet.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Yeah, I don't think there are anymore.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Ben's got a wonderful story with the spaghetti Wistern.

Speaker 5 (00:38):
Oh yeah, someone was, yeah, we're away from well, I
don't know why I'm telling you that's away from work.

Speaker 6 (00:41):
I was.

Speaker 5 (00:42):
It was my company and the guys like, hey, I
watched the movie last night. It's kind of come up
with my charge and like, oh what movies. You won't
know it. It's a spaghetti wistern. I don't know if
that was code for anything or if it was an
actual spaghtty wistern. I didn't ask any questions.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
It doesn't sound like we're very.

Speaker 6 (00:58):
Excited you come in to New Zealand US weekend.

Speaker 5 (01:00):
You're going to be here in Australia now, I noticed
from your social media yeah, people on stage there were
you were kissing one of them, So there was all
sorts going on.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
It was It's been really fun actually, because there's the
show is sort of well planned out, but there is
plenty of chance to sort of be loose and to
be playful as well. So and obviously with any comedy
really that the best parts are often the spontaneous parts,
aren't They the things that are not planned, the bits
that the audience wouldn't have seen last night and are

(01:31):
not going to see the next night.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
And so, yes, I was in Newcastle. I know that's
where I am now.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
No, no, no, my new Yeah, no, I'm in Newcast
but I was somewhere else. And where's all the churches?
Where's Adelaide?

Speaker 2 (01:53):
I was sounds like your touriner is quite spontaneous too.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yes, I just wake up.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
I was in Adelaide and and yeah, it was just
it was just the kind of one of the best
shows we've ever done.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
It was so much fun, and the audience is such
a big part of it.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
And they it was Saturday night, they'd had a few
drinks and so they were kind of keen on getting involved,
which is which I encourage.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Which is must be frightening for you going opening the
floor to questions from the audience.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Especially when you don't know what city you're in. Yeah,
but that's that's the fun of it is, and I
kind of think you've got to. I think people like
to see you thinking on your feet and they like
that something is happening in the room that's totally improvised,
and it really sort of sharpens you up because it
means you can't because I tell stories in the show,

(02:45):
like funny stories and jokes and stuff that I know
that I've done the night before. But what makes it
exciting for me as well is not just telling those stories,
but obviously you know, having to kind of come up
with something in the moment. But that's something I learned
doing Britain's Got Talent, is that you know, it was
all about reacting and all about being in the moment,

(03:06):
and then you know, you try and contrive a joke
and it would never be as good as the one
that just came out in the moment, you know, as
a reaction to what's happening.

Speaker 5 (03:15):
Because you've got these shows there earlier in the day,
which I gets a bit more catered around the Boox the.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Kids, and yeah, family shows in the day for people
who like my books, and then shows in the evening.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
I mean, it's not that adult, but I wouldn't take
your eight year old.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
If they're a teenager and they'd seen Little Britain and stuff,
I think it'd be fine. But but yeah, the book
shows really fun.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
It's just me on stage and.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
They can be really funny too, because I go out
to the audience and I ask, because I write written
these books, Worl's Worst Children, And I say, I've come
to do some research.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
You know, have you got brother or sister who's one
of the world's worst children?

Speaker 3 (03:53):
And then later on I asked them if there's a
if they have a parent, a mum or dad, they'd
like to be in the World's Worst Parents. And they
go bonkers for that. Stories often quite rude stories, because
one kid in Adelaide was like, what does your mom
do that you know makes her one of the world's
worst parents.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
She's always dropping the if bomb if bomb bomb?

Speaker 3 (04:18):
Yeah, so we uncover a lot of family truths.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
But yeah, it's been it's been.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
A riot and and so New Zealand. Yeah, I'm coming
to Auckland to christ church, one more, one more? Where
have you got it? That's the wit.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
How do you navigate between doing the comedy for you know,
like a PG.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Audience and then moving into something a little bit more
adult related?

Speaker 4 (04:50):
How do you go from one to the other.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
Well, I kind of I feel like it's the same me,
but it's just it's just slightly it's just slightly different.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
You know.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
I'm not I feel with the kids, you know, as
a children's author, I don't patronize them, you know, like
I don't go.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Hallo kiddies time.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
You know, it's still me and I'm still an archic,
and obviously I just know not to drop the F bomb.

Speaker 6 (05:15):
I'm very excited.

Speaker 5 (05:16):
I think we're all going at various stages over the weekend.
Do you want do you want any questions? Like preprepared
questions kind of a little bit North.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Korea, Like the best questions are the ones that's rude.
I had this great this woman came up. She was
like in her early twenties or something like that, and
she said, she said, yeah, my mum was meant to
come tonight, but she couldn't make it, so she gave
the tickets to me. And I'm just twenty two, So
I just want to ask.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Who are you right? Question? Yeah, and there was there
was a boy got up in Sydney and he was like,
I've read all forty three of your books. When you're
going to write a.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Good one, these are the ones that get the best laughs.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Are the ones that you know that put me down?
So please some rude questions listeners.

Speaker 6 (06:08):
Do you think about your career?

Speaker 5 (06:09):
Because I was reading yesterday you started, you know, Beck,
I think at Edinburgh and things like that, performing to
just a handful of people, and now you're selling out
in New Zealand and Australia and you've done amazing comedy
shows and books.

Speaker 6 (06:19):
Do you think about that journey that you've been on.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Always, I think you've always got to feel very grateful because, yeah,
me and Matt's first ever gig together was to three people.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
Who are those people?

Speaker 6 (06:30):
That's as big as this gig right now? It's three must.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah it was you three.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
Day one?

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Maybe yeah, just three. But then that's how it all starts.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Everyone's you know, no one gets to start their career,
you know, on a on a pedestal, did they really?
I mean you you you start a humble way and
it's good because it keeps you grounded and makes you grateful.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
That you've had your success.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
And I think it's just really important, isn't it not
to take it for granted, because once you start taking
it for granted, you might stop, you know, working so
hard and trying to deliver in the way that you do.
You know, but you know what, it was fun. We
were performing in room room above pubs, and it was
really fun. And I guess if we could still you know,
live our lives and you know, and still perform even

(07:17):
to people in the room pub still be fun. Yeah,
you know, if you're performing the room people in the
room bob pub.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
It's it's it's it's still a massive thrill.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
I mean, I get a thrill even just like you know,
I get asked to go around to visit schools and
things and and you know, I come out and there's
you know, just a couple of hundred kids in the
school hall and that's a lot of fun. And I
asked them, you know, if any of the teachers should
be in the World's Worst Teachers.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
But you know, that's still a massive buzz.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
I don't I don't kind of think, you know, I'll
it's a small audience. You know, I can't get excited.
I get excited every time. I mean, it's a it's
a real privilege to be able to go out and
entertain people. And uh, you know, And I always used
to think when I was on Britain's Got Talent, when
I'd be getting a bit bored and wrestless because it
would be just such a long day. I just always

(08:06):
remind myself when I was a lifeguard at the local
swimming pool and what I used to get paid an
hour to be there. And then I think about what
I got paid.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Now, And okay, David, stop complaining.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
Yeah, and you didn't even crown an hour and you
don't even have to mouth to mouth anyone.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Now.

Speaker 6 (08:26):
There was the lady of the audience. You were quite
hot and until.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
I'm very big with the older lady.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Did David Williams actually have to save anyone from drowning
and your years as a lifeguard?

Speaker 3 (08:43):
I didn't and I was desperate too to push children
in the pool. Very sadly that didn't happen.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Well.

Speaker 5 (08:53):
Actually, speaking of things you've done over your over your lifetime,
did you used to go the same gym as Prince
Harry was that true.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Correct until he moved to America, which is very selfish
of him. We used to, yeah, we used to sit
in the steam room together and did you it's a
very well built young man.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
I must say. He's great, really.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Fun, really friendly, real laugh you know, and it's no
I know, I know it's silly, you know, but there's
not like you know, you had to call him Prince
Harry or something, you know that what.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
Did you call him when you're sitting there in a towel?

Speaker 3 (09:31):
I called him big boy because it was like it's
you know, I think he was. He's the most down
to earth and the most normal of the lot of them.
So and good luck to him, you know, I've always
liked him.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Was always great.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
If he if he like, forgot a swipe car, would
you be able to swipe him into the gym?

Speaker 4 (09:51):
Or was there like a five hundred dollar fine for that?

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Was nowipe.

Speaker 6 (09:59):
Fancy gym?

Speaker 4 (10:00):
You're not a snip foot.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
But he was very popular there because it's just a
laugh and just always fun, always full of energy, and
you know, I don't know, just it was no like,
oh my goodness, it's Prince Harry. You know he has
to be kept away from everyone else. He just you know,
everyone loved him.

Speaker 5 (10:18):
Now coming up with you love about him?

Speaker 1 (10:23):
You're not quoting Prince Harry.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
Fine, he'll sell tickets to his own show.

Speaker 6 (10:28):
We're Excited and New Zealand this weeking.

Speaker 5 (10:30):
I don't know, Like the few scripts that we've written,
it's always had to come up with names, names of
people on the spot. Is the same when you're writing books.
You've written so many books over the years.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Well, I suppose I do use the saurra so you know,
say you have a character who's cruel, you might want
to like look up I always sort of look up
words that sort of are connected to that word, so
you know, if you have a cruel I don't know,
teacher or something you might call a misspite or something
like that. You know, and it's the sounds often I think,

(11:02):
I think to you, who's amazing names is JK Rowling?

Speaker 1 (11:05):
If you think of like snap, is it great? Isn't it?
They're all great names?

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Actually, ron They all seem you know, like they will
fit the character, don't they.

Speaker 6 (11:16):
Where would would johnno being and Megan? Where would be be?
What sort of characters would be be? In a book
for you pretty boring names.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
To be honest, you have an accounting agency in the spot.

Speaker 6 (11:30):
Isn't it as as you want to go?

Speaker 2 (11:32):
On?

Speaker 1 (11:32):
God, the three children who never grew up? That Rod,
Jane and Freddy.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
How long does it take you to write a book?

Speaker 2 (11:44):
And is it like a constant cloud hanging over you
like you're in the middle of writing books now I've been.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
I've been writing one as we've been speaking. Actually it
takes a few it takes a few months. But you know, again,
I just keep reminding myself. Although you know, sometimes it
feels like hard work because you're stressed and you're working
late into the night or whatever, and you know, you
get frustrated and all that. But you know, I just

(12:11):
keep my mindself. Yes, it's not actual real hard work,
you know, something that I really love doing and can
do anywhere, and I can, you know, when I'm traveling,
sit in the hotel, rooms, at the plane, sit on
the train, and do it.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
You know.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
So I just again, I just feel very lucky. But
I do love it. I really love it. And it's daunting,
you know, always starting with us sort of as it
were a blank piece of paper or a blank you know,
computer screen, it is daunting, but at the same time,
by the time you sort of filled it and.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Created a story, it's really exciting.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
So actually I always can't wait to get onto the
next one. So you know, again, I just feel very lucky.
I get to do what I liked to in life.

Speaker 6 (12:51):
Oh, we're very excited about you. Here the final question.

Speaker 5 (12:53):
I went to look on an article last Night's from
the Age and then see David Williams has advice for
Adele and I had to pay for to subscribe and
I didn't do that.

Speaker 6 (13:02):
So what what's your advice? Fordell?

Speaker 1 (13:05):
This story is what happens.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
You say one thing and then it gets reporting all
these different sites. Well, basically, Adele used to both be
my neighbor, so I'd see her a lot, and she
came around. She she came around with her for dinner
and she brought an oscar. It's really really nice. And anyway,
and I was talking to her because it was like

(13:28):
a long time between the second and the third album,
and so I said, I said, you know, is it difficult,
you know, just come up a song and it's like yeah,
because you know, you've had these grassive hits and now
you're sort of competing. You're not competing with by other people,
You're not competing with yourself. And she was like, yeah,
I suppose it is, because I guess if you've written
a song like someone like you, you're starting to write another

(13:50):
song and then you think, oh, it's not as good
as someone like that, and just coming in your head,
even though she may be better or different whatever, And
so anyway, she took that advice and now look.

Speaker 6 (14:05):
You hello exactly.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Thanks, I help all the big I've got a note
for everybody.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Pilburgh, Prince Harry in the sauna, you got them all.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
I've got something to say to you.

Speaker 6 (14:22):
Oh we love catching up with you.

Speaker 5 (14:24):
Ord on it Harry, David Williams in New Zealand this
week Friday, Saturday, Monday, Wednesday, Auckland, Wellington and christ We
can't wait to see you in New Zealand. I'll be
Friday night. I think John going on Saturday. So yeah,
I can't wait to see it.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
I can't wait with you come backstage and catch me
in my underpants when I'm getting dressed.

Speaker 6 (14:44):
I love to I don't know if I'll be allowed to.
What do I say is.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
Maybe that's the spirits question, Can I come.

Speaker 6 (14:51):
Expeciation to see you in your underpants?

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Yes, that would be a great question. Because I'm such
a terrible show off, I'll probably strip off on stage.

Speaker 6 (15:00):
Great, I'd love to see you in your underpants and
love to see your day.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
He promised me. You're going to ask that question.

Speaker 6 (15:05):
Okay, yeah, okay, but okay, right, it sounds great.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
All right, well, can I come back backstage and see
see you in your.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
And I'll ask it at the children's show.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Asking the children's one your dark and disturbed mind.

Speaker 6 (15:23):
All right, we'll see you Friday night and Friday guy.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
Yeah,
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