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Speaker 1 (00:01):
With the John and Ben Podcast. Cheers to Dilma making
the world a bitter tea. Yeah, really good to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Oh, it's Disney on ice. The other day it's Pettigar
on ice anything like that.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
There isn't any I'm not in a Leo tad.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I'm not skating, okay, yeah, because that was a prison show.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
There. It's greens high drama, Mickey and Minnie breakup.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
It seems like it all serious. It is really really
interesting documentary that you're doing. You've got antuctive for three weeks.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Yes, yeah, yeah, so three weeks. I was down there
at the end of last year.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
What is it like there? Is it surreal? It is
just so mind blowing. I remember I got out and I.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Was just like, you know, if and how you know, yeah,
because you visualize it for ages and then you get
out and it's just this massive white expense even and
then there's this blue skies. Yeah, you know, so weird, guys,
twenty four hour a day sunlight. So now the sun
(01:01):
just did not go down. Cicadian rhythm, Yeah, your Cicadian rhythm.
The cicadas were left well behind. I don't even I
didn't see cicada the whole time. There's no cicadas down
and down in.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Speaking wildlife, I was reading something last night. You were like,
you thought you'd see polar bears, but obviously they don't
live it, And.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yeah, well I left that pretty quick there in the
there in the North Pole. So I was sitting around
with all these scientists and sitting there on the first.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Night, and I don't tell me you said it in
front of them. No.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
I was just about to say it, where are the
polar bear is? And then the scientist goes, It's amazing
how many dumbasses come down here thinking they're going to
see a polar bear? And I was like, oh, say,
you know, yeah, I had to learn a lot about Antarctica.
And you know, it was negative thirty five degrees and
and so we actually went camping and on a beach,
(01:52):
but the difference being, you know, we were right on
the beach, the difference being that the sea was actually
ice meter and a half thack, so you know, there's
no waves of water, wasn't going to lap up or anything.
We're just sort of camping there. Here I am in
this tent and negative thirty five degrees.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Did you say the.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Night there or stayed three nights there really, and you
know you're in five sleeping bags. You know, there's an
outer layer, another layer, another layer, another layer, and another layer.
Then you've got to get the clothes that you've got
and shove them inside your sleeping bed because if you
leave them out over night, they'll freeze, so you got
to keep them warm. So then you sort of fill
up your seat bag with all this warm kind of gear.
And then of course the first thing that happens when
(02:26):
you're sitting there is like, oh, I've got to go
for my big time Wii.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yourself.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
You get to a bottle situation.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Too, and so you just get your bottle.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
You know, you've actually got to take your wiez back
to the base at the end of it, because you're
not it's a waste free environment. They don't want yellow
snow or yellow ice. Yeah, so you've got to.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Taking quite a few.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah, sorry for your listeners, for explaining all of the
ways together.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Fascinate because I mean, you know, like most of us
will never get to go anywhere, so like, well, if.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
You do go take a pea bottle and all the
polar bee is aren't they?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah, everywhere is it just is it overwhelming in a
place like that, you know, because I can imagine there's
hardly anyone lives there.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yeah, yeah, that's right. There's only a round about one
hundred people on the scott base. And then you don't
see people for ages when you're out on the ice
and of course you know it's white. It's just so white,
and it's just so massive, and you're just sort of
standing there and and I remember looking at one day
and the sea was frozen and the top of an
iceberg was frozen into the sea. You know, that sea's
(03:28):
frozen around and locked an iceberg. And by the way,
penguin's actually stink. I went to a Pengland colony that's
super cute. But they fat, they burp, they've got body odor.
It was one of the things.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Mass is quite smelly. Yeah, Pengland colony is not a
kind of place you want to be. But they look
so happy on happy feet. There's smelly feet as well. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Yeah, so you know, there was lots of cool stuff,
but yeah, it was really overwhelming, just the whiteness and
the power of it all. And the reason I was
down there is, you know, the scientists are afraid that
it's melting and that's a problem for all of us.
I didn't realize it, guys, but Antarctica feeds into all
of the world's major oceans. It keeps the whole world care.
(04:11):
It's like a thermostat for the world. And with it
melting and changing and basically humans missing it up, it
could all go and lead to four meters of sea
level rises.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Is it too far gone?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
No, that's a really good question, John, And you know
the signists think, hey, maybe this is now we can't
stop what's happening to Antactica.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
We've kicked it off and we.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Can't actually put the genie back in the bottle, and
we may have to do sort of thing. The kind
of things they were talking about seemed really far out,
but they make a little of sense, like, you know,
why are we living so near the coastline and so
many parts of New Zealand might have to change that
if Antactica does go. So that was you know, beneath
all of the sort of beauty, there's this incredible sort
of power that it has over the world.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
The whole thing looks about climate change, you know, and
you're a very positive person, you know, how do you
feel now think away because you want people to watch it.
But do you are there some things that could give
you some hope to turning things around?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah, I think I think it's it's it's funny they
were studying algae down there, and now algae is like
moss and like it on your house, like I'm spraying
it and all that all the sort of time. But
the scientists were studying it and they were saying, it's
a big part of Antactica and a big part of
the sea, you know, algae, and they're looking at it
in bits, and it is changing, you know, algae is
(05:26):
adapting the way that it lives to put up with
like warmer oceans. And I guess that's the hope, is
that actually, as humans, yep, things might change in our world,
but we'll find a way to live with it. Human nature,
I guess is what gave me hope amongst what was,
you know, the changing of our nature. It sounds like
a cliche, but you just realize how insignificant you are
to the world.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Three weeks is a long time. Yeah, that's maybe a
bit too. No.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I was like, yeah, I'm pretty cen to get out
of here, and I I was bunking as well. We're
in a bunk room in the base. You know, I
haven't slept in a bunk since I was twelve for
my cousin Steven. And you know, I was up on
the top bank. You know, it was bloody hard to
get up there. Yeah, you know, each I was like
time for bed. You know, like normally at home, you're
sliding the bed, it starts to relaxing.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
You're here.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I am sort of like getting up to the getting
up to the top bank. So yeah, it was it
was a long time to be there. But everything took
such a long time to do, you know, to put
on my clothes to go outside, it took me about
forty five minutes, you know, so everything was really slow.
And then by the time you're outside and you're working
so cold, and then you finally get and you guys
know how long it takes to get cameras and everything
set up, and you finally get ready to do an interview,
(06:36):
and then of course you get brain freeze and you
can't remember the question.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Everything was just slow. Yeah, everything was super slow.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
And it's not like, oh, yeah, I drop down something
on my phone or I'll look at that because actually
it was too cold to get your phone out because
you couldn't get your fingers out of your gloves. See,
so it was you know, it was all those sorts
of things. So probably took about five times longer to
make anything. But yeah, three weeks was a bloody long time.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Pet on Ice Scott Base, Like what is that like?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Like like a school kid, it's like a whole lot
of your granddad's or uncles sheds put together with links
in between them, and yeah, like a school camp. And
you actually go and you eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner obviously,
and then they'll have morning tea and afternoon tea. Basically
go in and eat the whole time. You're so hungry
working in the cold. It's so small that you do
(07:23):
not get one moment of privacy. Every time you go
somewhere ring family back home or something like that. You
think you found a little corner or somewhere and you're
about to go in, someone else is already in there
ringing their family back home.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
You know.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yeah, you sort of you've got to get used to
seeing people the whole time. You go to bed, your
bunk mates there wanting to talk about using a covid
swab to get a sample of penguin poo before you
go to sleep.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
You know, this kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
You know you're sort of surrounded by people all the time,
but you know you are. It was very inspiring because
you are with adventurous people who really want to push
themselves to the limit.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
This might be a super question, but how does the
plane land if it's all icy and.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
They've got an ice runway there. They've got anice runway there,
and it's a big American plane, againtic American plane because
the American bases there. So yeah, there's an ice run
where they've done something with it. It's a good, good question.
I didn't ask too many questions landing on ice, Just yeah,
we're landing on ice. It's all ice down there. Yeah
it's a packed runway or some kind taking off, I
(08:21):
don't ask too many questions.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
All I know is we landed and we took off.
I was like, yeah, I was like good.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
From well anyway, there's probably like it's a probably good.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
It was not as bad as it was not as
bad as the landing as the landing on ice.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
It seems so fascinating and we're really fascinating documentary. Catch
it on three and of course three now as well.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Love to see your pet. Yeah, awesome guys, Thank you,
With the John and Ben Podcast. Cheers to Dilma making
the world a bitter tea. Yeah, really good to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Oh, it's Disney on ice. The other day it's Pettigar
on ice anything like that.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
There isn't any I'm not in a Leo tad.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I'm not skating, okay, yeah, because that was a prison show.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
There. It's greens high drama, Mickey and Minnie breakup.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
It seems like it all serious. It is really really
interesting documentary that you're doing. You've got antuctive for three weeks.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Yes, yeah, yeah, so three weeks. I was down there
at the end of last year.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
What is it like there? Is it surreal? It is
just so mind blowing. I remember I got out and I.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Was just like, you know, if and how you know, yeah,
because you visualize it for ages and then you get
out and it's just this massive white expense even and
then there's this blue skies. Yeah, you know, so weird, guys,
twenty four hour a day sunlight. So now the sun
(01:01):
just did not go down. Cicadian rhythm, Yeah, your Cicadian rhythm.
The cicadas were left well behind. I don't even I
didn't see cicada the whole time. There's no cicadas down
and down in.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Speaking wildlife, I was reading something last night. You were like,
you thought you'd see polar bears, but obviously they don't
live it, And.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yeah, well I left that pretty quick there in the
there in the North Pole. So I was sitting around
with all these scientists and sitting there on the first.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Night, and I don't tell me you said it in
front of them. No.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
I was just about to say it, where are the
polar bear is? And then the scientist goes, It's amazing
how many dumbasses come down here thinking they're going to
see a polar bear? And I was like, oh, say,
you know, yeah, I had to learn a lot about Antarctica.
And you know, it was negative thirty five degrees and
and so we actually went camping and on a beach,
(01:52):
but the difference being, you know, we were right on
the beach, the difference being that the sea was actually
ice meter and a half thack, so you know, there's
no waves of water, wasn't going to lap up or anything.
We're just sort of camping there. Here I am in
this tent and negative thirty five degrees.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Did you say the.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Night there or stayed three nights there really, and you
know you're in five sleeping bags. You know, there's an
outer layer, another layer, another layer, another layer, and another layer.
Then you've got to get the clothes that you've got
and shove them inside your sleeping bed because if you
leave them out over night, they'll freeze, so you got
to keep them warm. So then you sort of fill
up your seat bag with all this warm kind of gear.
And then of course the first thing that happens when
(02:26):
you're sitting there is like, oh, I've got to go
for my big time Wii.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yourself.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
You get to a bottle situation.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Too, and so you just get your bottle.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
You know, you've actually got to take your wiez back
to the base at the end of it, because you're
not it's a waste free environment. They don't want yellow
snow or yellow ice. Yeah, so you've got to.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Taking quite a few.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah, sorry for your listeners, for explaining all of the
ways together.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Fascinate because I mean, you know, like most of us
will never get to go anywhere, so like, well, if.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
You do go take a pea bottle and all the
polar bee is aren't they?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah, everywhere is it just is it overwhelming in a
place like that, you know, because I can imagine there's
hardly anyone lives there.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yeah, yeah, that's right. There's only a round about one
hundred people on the scott base. And then you don't
see people for ages when you're out on the ice
and of course you know it's white. It's just so white,
and it's just so massive, and you're just sort of
standing there and and I remember looking at one day
and the sea was frozen and the top of an
iceberg was frozen into the sea. You know, that sea's
(03:28):
frozen around and locked an iceberg. And by the way,
penguin's actually stink. I went to a Pengland colony that's
super cute. But they fat, they burp, they've got body odor.
It was one of the things.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Mass is quite smelly. Yeah, Pengland colony is not a
kind of place you want to be. But they look
so happy on happy feet. There's smelly feet as well. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Yeah, so you know, there was lots of cool stuff,
but yeah, it was really overwhelming, just the whiteness and
the power of it all. And the reason I was
down there is, you know, the scientists are afraid that
it's melting and that's a problem for all of us.
I didn't realize it, guys, but Antarctica feeds into all
of the world's major oceans. It keeps the whole world care.
(04:11):
It's like a thermostat for the world. And with it
melting and changing and basically humans missing it up, it
could all go and lead to four meters of sea
level rises.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Is it too far gone?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
No, that's a really good question, John, And you know
the signists think, hey, maybe this is now we can't
stop what's happening to Antactica.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
We've kicked it off and we.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Can't actually put the genie back in the bottle, and
we may have to do sort of thing. The kind
of things they were talking about seemed really far out,
but they make a little of sense, like, you know,
why are we living so near the coastline and so
many parts of New Zealand might have to change that
if Antactica does go. So that was you know, beneath
all of the sort of beauty, there's this incredible sort
of power that it has over the world.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
The whole thing looks about climate change, you know, and
you're a very positive person, you know, how do you
feel now think away because you want people to watch it.
But do you are there some things that could give
you some hope to turning things around?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah, I think I think it's it's it's funny they
were studying algae down there, and now algae is like
moss and like it on your house, like I'm spraying
it and all that all the sort of time. But
the scientists were studying it and they were saying, it's
a big part of Antactica and a big part of
the sea, you know, algae, and they're looking at it
in bits, and it is changing, you know, algae is
(05:26):
adapting the way that it lives to put up with
like warmer oceans. And I guess that's the hope, is
that actually, as humans, yep, things might change in our world,
but we'll find a way to live with it. Human nature,
I guess is what gave me hope amongst what was,
you know, the changing of our nature. It sounds like
a cliche, but you just realize how insignificant you are
to the world.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Three weeks is a long time. Yeah, that's maybe a
bit too. No.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I was like, yeah, I'm pretty cen to get out
of here, and I I was bunking as well. We're
in a bunk room in the base. You know, I
haven't slept in a bunk since I was twelve for
my cousin Steven. And you know, I was up on
the top bank. You know, it was bloody hard to
get up there. Yeah, you know, each I was like
time for bed. You know, like normally at home, you're
sliding the bed, it starts to relaxing.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
You're here.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I am sort of like getting up to the getting
up to the top bank. So yeah, it was it
was a long time to be there. But everything took
such a long time to do, you know, to put
on my clothes to go outside, it took me about
forty five minutes, you know, so everything was really slow.
And then by the time you're outside and you're working
so cold, and then you finally get and you guys
know how long it takes to get cameras and everything
set up, and you finally get ready to do an interview,
(06:36):
and then of course you get brain freeze and you
can't remember the question.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Everything was just slow. Yeah, everything was super slow.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
And it's not like, oh, yeah, I drop down something
on my phone or I'll look at that because actually
it was too cold to get your phone out because
you couldn't get your fingers out of your gloves. See,
so it was you know, it was all those sorts
of things. So probably took about five times longer to
make anything. But yeah, three weeks was a bloody long time.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Pet on Ice Scott Base, Like what is that like?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Like like a school kid, it's like a whole lot
of your granddad's or uncles sheds put together with links
in between them, and yeah, like a school camp. And
you actually go and you eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner obviously,
and then they'll have morning tea and afternoon tea. Basically
go in and eat the whole time. You're so hungry
working in the cold. It's so small that you do
(07:23):
not get one moment of privacy. Every time you go
somewhere ring family back home or something like that. You
think you found a little corner or somewhere and you're
about to go in, someone else is already in there
ringing their family back home.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
You know.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yeah, you sort of you've got to get used to
seeing people the whole time. You go to bed, your
bunk mates there wanting to talk about using a covid
swab to get a sample of penguin poo before you
go to sleep.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
You know, this kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
You know you're sort of surrounded by people all the time,
but you know you are. It was very inspiring because
you are with adventurous people who really want to push
themselves to the limit.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
This might be a super question, but how does the
plane land if it's all icy and.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
They've got an ice runway there. They've got anice runway there,
and it's a big American plane, againtic American plane because
the American bases there. So yeah, there's an ice run
where they've done something with it. It's a good, good question.
I didn't ask too many questions landing on ice, Just yeah,
we're landing on ice. It's all ice down there. Yeah
it's a packed runway or some kind taking off, I
(08:21):
don't ask too many questions.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
All I know is we landed and we took off.
I was like, yeah, I was like good.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
From well anyway, there's probably like it's a probably good.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
It was not as bad as it was not as
bad as the landing as the landing on ice.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
It seems so fascinating and we're really fascinating documentary. Catch
it on three and of course three now as well.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Love to see your pet. Yeah, awesome guys, Thank you,
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