Full Show Podcast: 04 November 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
Hello are you great? New Zealanders? Welcome to the Matt
and Tyler Afternoons podcast. Huge show today. Look out for
the moment when I gave the number out as eight
hundred Hadaki instead of eight hundred eighty ten.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Eighty nailed it now, that was a couple of times. Actually, yeah, Herduki.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah yeah. And I also made a mistake around how
many times the population of New Zealand is compared to
ending it two hundred and eighty eight times the population meths.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
On radios always we.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Asked the question why do you hate Auckland if you do?
And why do you love Auckland if you do? And
it was a passionate discussion from both sides.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Yep, cheating, Whether you could ever forgive a partner for
cheating on you?

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Yeah, you say no, I say, Dave Grohl, You've got
a lot of climbing back to do, probably higher than
my Mount Everest, but you might be able to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
What was your nickname for him? Dave grow your dirty sausage.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Roll, dirty old girl sausage.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
Roll.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yeah. When I was, when my kids little, I told
them that sausage rolls David Grolls, and I'd get them
to go into bakeries and order at David groll.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
And you also throughout the bold statement that Sir Edmund
Hillary the greatest, greatest of us were. His climbate of
Mount Everest was not as good as another sporting moment
in recent memory.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yeah, that's right, one that happened the last twenty four hours.
So hell of a show today. Give me a taste
of Kiwi.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Enjoy your new home for instateful and enter teening talk.
It's Mattie and Taylor Adams afternoons on news Talk Zevvy.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Well, get a welcome to Monday afternoon. I hope you
had a fantastic weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Get a Metsy A Tyler Gooday everyone, fantastic weekend. Love
getting up to watch.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
The All Blacks in the middle of the night, patriotic.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
I feel so good. It hurts when the alarm goes off,
but you get up, you get the hot chocolate, you
sit on the couch and it's so nostalgia and I
absolutely love it, especially a fantastic game like that, especially
when we won it right at the end. Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant.
Also a fantastic weekend black Caps. We want to talk
about this later on, but a great weekend for my family.

(02:24):
I just read this from the Otago Daily Times. Please
Amelia and Isaac welcome with much love their son Walter
Christopher Ernest Bennett. Christopher is my dad's name. So Christopher's
got his name put in the middle of another kid's name.
Born at home on Monday, October twenty eighth. A dare
we brother for Freddy and Henry and grandson for Catherine.
That's my sister and Dean that's my brother in law,

(02:46):
Lorraine and Alistair Mini thanks to Utaha point and the
team at choice mid referee.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Oh that's beautiful making to the family.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah. Freddy and Henry great little kids, and now they've
got a little brother, Walter. So our family's feeling very
excited about that.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
Oh I bet, I bet. Are you traveling down to
Dinners then?

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, I'm going down this weekend to meet meet Walter.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Yeah, excited about that. Love the name Waltery, fantastic name. Strong.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yeah, I'll tell you what. Freddy, his big brother is
a real personality.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yeah, fantastic stuff right onto the show. As you mentioned before,
after three o'clock the Black Caps unbelievable. But you are
going to pose quite a controversial question.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Is this bigger than the climbing of Mount Everest? There
no one in terms of an achievement for New Zealand?

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Man, that's a that's a that's a ballsy question you've
chucked out.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
This Is it bigger than Hillary?

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Shall we put Tom Latham on our five dollar note?

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Is this our greatest of a cricket result?

Speaker 3 (03:47):
I would say yes to that, really over the.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Winning the Test Championship and he must look at New
Zealand and think we are crazy. We're like in Asterix,
We like the village that just keeps beating them up.
Is it our greatest of a sporting result? Let's discuss
that the five million of us one point four four
billion of them, so two hundred and eighty eight times
our population, and they are absolutely cricket obsessed. This hasn't

(04:11):
happened in ninety one years of India playing Test cricket
at home. Australia hasn't done it. So is it our
greatest or greatest cricket or even our greatest ever sporting achievement.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, look not what's better. I've got a list here
of some of our great sporting achievements over the last
one hundred and fifty years. And yeah, that is after
three o'clock. After two o'clock, Dave Grohl from The Food Fighters, Well,
Noahen rock Star is no longer working with a divorce attorney,
and it's hoping to work things out with his wife.
Jordan Blum after revealing he became a father outside of

(04:42):
his marriage. That all kicked off in September. You know,
he came clean, very naughty. But the question we're going
to ask you after two o'clock is can you ever
come back from cheating on a partner or wife or husband.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Of course you can, of course you can, of course
you can. Davy Girls doing the best he can, dirty
old Davy girl. He's he's got rid of the divorce lawyer.
He's going to work it out with his partner. He's
going to do the right thing for his family. Obviously
he's done a very very bad thing. But there's always
a way forward if there's love.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Is that the worst sort of betrayal though in a relationship?

Speaker 2 (05:16):
For you, cheating on your partner and fathering a child, like,
it's not great. If you want to get into this,
it's definitely not great. And there'll be there's a huge
speaking of mountain climbing, there's a huge there's an everest
for him to climb. But if he's willing to do
it and she's open to him having a go, and

(05:37):
they try and put it behind and look forward to
the future, I think, I think, I mean, it happens
all the time that people piece their lives back together
when people have made terrible mistakes. Yeah, you know, and
Davy Grohl's defense, he is doing right by the child
as well, that it's outside of the marriage and look, yeah,
there's going to be some difficult conversations and there's going

(05:58):
to be a lot of dishes that he's going to
have to do going forward.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Well, this is going to be a good chat after
two o'clock. Looking forward to that. But right now, we
want to chat about small town New Zealand. It's on
the back of a story out today that a school
bus has been taken or that was taking students from
Hawks Bay town of Clive to have lock North for
two decades has been canned. An education ministry review found
students in Clive were ineligible for school bus funding because

(06:25):
public buses were available. Quite rightly, that is upset the
community of Clive, the school itself and the students. But
what we want to have a chat about is that
is just another service that has been taken away from
small town New Zealand when you look at the proposal proposals.
Rather around post being reduced to one or two days

(06:47):
a week, the access to doctors been a lot harder
for small town New Zealand. Job losses, job losses.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah, are you feeling unloved in the rural communities? Are
you feeling like you've been forgotten? You obviously need rural
communities because we are in an agricultural country. The primary
sector is obviously the most important thing for our economy.
So do we need to do more? And look, there's
a lot to be loved about living in a royal town,

(07:14):
a rural town as well. Small town life is very different,
but it is very special. And you know, I've spent
a lot of time living in very very small towns
and look, there is something to it, but there is
a lot of isolation and a lot of challenges as well.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yeah, it is sad to me. It is sad that
this is happening to small town New Zealand. And there
is always the well not all ways, but there is
the argument that small town New Zealand has long been
suffering and long being dying, and I think that's an
incredibly bad thing. We need investment in those small towns
and they are feeling it at the moment, as you say,

(07:53):
primarily with job losses and some of the places like
Timurdu Onmdu, I mean across New Zealand, they're feeling that
that is not a good thing for New Zealand as
a whole. We can't just have people move into the
big cities at the expense of small town New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah, but there's problems everywhere, Tyler. There's problems everywhere, and
there's not very much money. That is the big problem
in our country right now. We're hardly flushed with cash.
Are we to solve all our problems now?

Speaker 3 (08:19):
So the Ministry of Education in this case, we'll be
looking at that bus service and say how much does
it cost per student? And they've run it through their
numbers and say it's too expensive. But for you, it's
not about the actual cost mat it's about the investment
and a place like life.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yeah, well, I mean we can't have everyone living the cities.
We're going to have people spread out everywhere, so we
have to find some kind of solution, don't we.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Yeah. Oh, eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty love
to hear from you. If you're in a small town
in New Zealand, are you feeling unloved? Is it becoming
harder to live in those places? And if you're in
the city, is it a worthwhile investment to have school
buses to make sure that their postal services remain untouched,
to give them greater access to the health system and doctors?

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Do you beg heartless? Big city livers like Tyler? Tyler
even care? Mount Wellington dwellers like you, do you even care?

Speaker 3 (09:09):
You tell me one Ministry of Education funded bus in
Auckland doesn't exist at run a few. But I don't
think the Ministry run any here.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah no, No, you have to swipe on you to pay.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Nine two ninety two is the text number. It is
fourteen past one.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons you
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Speaker 3 (09:39):
News Talk zed B. Very good afternoon to you. You're
listening to Matt and Tyler and we're talking about small
town New Zealand. Do we need to invest more in
small town New Zealand? It is struggling at the moment.
This is on the back of a school bus which
has taken students from the Hawk's Bay town of Clive
to have Lock North for two decades. It's been canned.
An Education Ministry review found students in Clive were ineligible

(10:00):
for school bus funding because public buses were available. The
principles and Board of Havelock North High School and have
Lock North Intermedia said canning the route was against the
educational priorities espoused by the Ministry. And it's not the
only thing that small town New Zealand is losing. The
New Zealand posts have talked about reducing the number of

(10:22):
days that they will deliver letters and parcels. We know
that access to doctors is becoming increasingly hard for those
folks in small town and rural New Zealand. Do we
actually need to have some stronger investment into these small towns.
And we know, as you mentioned before, Matt, the loss
of jobs in these places has a flow on effect,

(10:42):
massive flow on effect throughout that community.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah, but I mean in the case that you're talking
about there, they do have a public bus service, so
it's not like people are being abandoned. They can get
on the bus and go. Look, what are you talking
about in terms of the size of what do you
consider it a small town? Because we've got a text here
on nine two nine to two back the truck up.
Oamaru is a good time job market's still strong here.

(11:06):
Get on down. It is on a roote.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
It's a great place. It's what the steam punk capital
of New Zealand as well. I'll have a place to
have it.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Some great cafes down there.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
Yep, good Belgium pub.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
I think my sister went on a honeymoon there.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yeah, Nick, how we here this afternoon?

Speaker 5 (11:24):
Yeah yeah, good man, good good.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Now you moved from christ Shoots to Oxford. That would
be considered a small towns are things thriving in Oxford?

Speaker 6 (11:33):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (11:33):
For me there, I really enjoyed. You know, we were
probably three three years ago just yeah, just for a change.
And yeah, I wouldn't change it for anything, man, that's
I mean, it's a small town, but it's big enough,
you know what I mean. You know, it's got a supermarket,
it's got a good good doctors, that's got a high school,

(11:55):
a proper school, primary school, a couple of you know,
my way fellas in preschool there. Yeah, it's got a.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
Good pub in Oxford. I've got to say, but what
what are you doing there? Did you change jobs or
is it a bit of a lifestyle change.

Speaker 5 (12:12):
I was a lifestyle change. I'm a plumber, so I
sort of travel around, you know, I get around Greater
Canterbury for work anyway, you know, Canterbury woman selling councils.
So I'm not tied to a location for work. And
you know, and my wife's luck is she can work
from home. So yeah, I guess in that sense it

(12:34):
was a lot easier for us to make that switch.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
What talks of it? Is it about two three thousand population.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
Be too?

Speaker 5 (12:43):
I guess yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
And so what do you like? What do you like there?
You know, what, what's the community like? What do you
like over christ Church? If you're loving it there?

Speaker 5 (12:53):
Well, I'm about three hundred managers from the pub, so
that that's good.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Yeah, that's good walking.

Speaker 5 (12:58):
Distance, Yeah exactly. Also, you know I got more land
than we would have in town. I got space, you know,
just on class today. That the life, Yeah, yeah, I
think sort of. You know, working not right next to

(13:21):
home health as well, You've got that separation between work
at home life and it just feels like a community
as well, you know, well.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
Very interesting so for you and Oxford. You don't feel
the community is unloved at this point. It's quite a
tight knit community and things are humming along pretty nicely.

Speaker 5 (13:40):
Well, I think so. I mean I'm definitely not local,
you know, I've only been in three years, so that
you might spending the whole life. They might have a
different opinion, but yeah, everything I want any out there?

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Have you have you met met some locals down at
the pub, made some mates?

Speaker 7 (14:01):
Yeah, yeah, I have.

Speaker 5 (14:03):
You know, I've got a cousin that lives not so
far away from there as well for their house and yeah,
knows as all I swing down there.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
I mean, Oxford's not super isolated though, really is that
what is that minutes across you?

Speaker 8 (14:15):
I think?

Speaker 9 (14:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (14:16):
Yeah, forty forty five minutes.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
I mean, if you live in Auckland, you're basically the
same distance as some of the suburbs of Auckland to
town really in terms of a commune.

Speaker 5 (14:25):
Well, yeah, that's that's so like when I started started
plumbing years ago. Now there's a lot of expats coming
over and buying in the areas like Oxford, you know,
building out there because the community for them from you know,
a small small country town, the central procious. So it's

(14:49):
still half the half the travel they're doing, you know
on a normal workdown in London or whatever.

Speaker 10 (14:55):
You know.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Yeah, yeah, hey is the public and has he still
got his dog that kind of wanders around the pub
when you're there.

Speaker 5 (15:02):
There's couple and then there's an old old British bulldog.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
In then yeah he is he he's still around. Yes,
there there good news, good news.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
There you go see that, there you go there, you see.
You don't get your dog's wandering around inside your pub
in the in the middle of a big metropolitan center,
do you.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
No.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
No, and fancy Wellington pubs in the middle of town,
they don't have they don't have dogs walking around.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
No, and neck youd No, I mean that dog. It's
a great dog. But he's been on his last league
for a long time.

Speaker 10 (15:36):
Now.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
Last time I was in there was about three years ago,
and it's it's nice to know that he's still still
living his best life next to that fire. He lives
a good life, that dog.

Speaker 5 (15:45):
Yeah for sure.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (15:47):
Jack Russell that I had, they got eighteen years out
of him, is in a similar boat.

Speaker 10 (15:53):
You know.

Speaker 5 (15:54):
He just sort of around and.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
Eighteen years out of my dog. That's that's full of me,
full of hope. I've got a Jack Russell many snails across. Yeah,
currently ten. He'll get there, he'll get eighteen years.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Yeah, he lives a good life. Nick, Thank you very much. Mate.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Have you ever lived in a very small town? Tyler?

Speaker 7 (16:13):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (16:13):
Yeah, yeah, Well how small are we talking here? I'm
just trying to think the places I've lived around New
Zealand's have lived in fun A Nowson, that's not small,
oh hope, just out of Nelson. That was a small
When we had the orchard, yeah, kee, we for an orchard.
That's small.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
When I was a kid, my parents went overseas and
they dumped me and my sisters in well, they didn't
dump they they dumped us in a town called Sterling,
which is about five five kilometers towards the coast from
Bellcluther right, And now that is a truly small small town.
So I lived there for a while and that was
quite a shock, moving from the big smoke of Duneda.

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Just Sterling.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
What do you mean they dumped you there? It was
just some sort of punishment.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
No, I don't know. It was just they were they
were off in the States and they were they were like,
we can't take four kids. Well, so they dumped dumped
us with my mum's twin sister and we lived there.
And there was a rumor that I bought knits from
Dunedin to the school. Yes, so I was sort of
a social prior down at the primary school because I

(17:16):
had quite long here.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Who started that rumor? That's ruthless, is it.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah? So I was known as Knits for most of
the time I was there. But I'm not sure if
that's the problem that everyone that small moves the room
kids blamed for a knit outbreak.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Yeah, quick text of the break, guys. Small towns are dying,
kids leaving for bigger cities and more opportunities. It's just life,
as people centralize to where the jobs and most of
the surfaces are plus, criminal groups have more influence in
small towns with minimal to no police in town Sad
but true from Craig.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yeah, there's a real myth epidemic as well, isn't there
In small towns, When people don't have opportunities, don't have hope,
often young people will either leave or if there's a
criminal element in town, then the drugs can become a
real problem. And that's super depressing. A small town that's
losing population and losing services and the young people are

(18:12):
struggling with drugs. That that gets a very very depressing
situation and a downward spiral.

Speaker 7 (18:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
Absolutely, Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call. It's twenty five past one.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
All the big days are wrong. The Mike Hosking breakfast
police have changed.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
The way they do mental health call outs.

Speaker 11 (18:29):
You can see the angst by way of media coverage
and this and the ensuing weeks, can't you. It's not
your fault, but I see this as a minefield. I
see any number of NGOs and people want them to
stir trouble politically, bringing any number of newsrooms going and
I left them there and they did this, and the
police were nowhere to be seen, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
And that's for you to deal with, isn't it.

Speaker 12 (18:49):
Well, police will still go to anyone that's risker harming themselves.

Speaker 11 (18:53):
Back tomorrow at six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with
Maylee's Real Estate News Talk z B.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Very good afternoons.

Speaker 13 (19:00):
You.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
It's twenty eight past one and we have been talking
about the slow death of small town New Zealand and
been on the back of it's almost death by a
thousand cuts. This is on the back of the public
bus service for students being canned by the Education Ministry.
They said that there are public buses available, so there's
no longer a funded bus for school children from Clive

(19:23):
to have Locked North. But we talked about the reduction
and postal services, the reduction and doctors, the number of
job losses. It does feel like small town New Zealand
is having a mayor of a time at the moment.
Trying to stay relevant.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah, I've got this text here on nineteen ninet two
plaining simple guys, we live in a small town, but
we don't produce enough votes for the governments to change
any kind of policies, so they aren't saying that there'sn't
the political pressure from small towns to get what they
need to continue, yeah, with the services that they require.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
And this one here, Hi, guys, I am sorry to
hear that the bus between Clive and have Lock North
won't be running anymore. I think you'll find that a
range of services all over New Zealand are being impacted.
I live in Auckland and my children haven't been able
to get on a bus for years due to overcrowding.
I think actually we've got Charmaine on the line. Very

(20:17):
good afternoon.

Speaker 14 (20:18):
How are you hi, I'm good, thank you.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
Good now. I was just reading out part of your
text and it makes a fair point that you are
in Auckland yourself, and while you feel for the people
of Clive in small town New Zealand, the fact of
the matter is that publicly funded buses or Ministry of
Education publicly funded buses just don't exist in Auckland, and
they have it for some time.

Speaker 14 (20:40):
It's a little more nuanced than that. Obviously they do exist.
We pay for a bus for my children to get
to primary or secondary school, but of course they run
a specific route for the children to get to school
and they've been overcrowded for over ten years. You know,
it's been in the paper. There's issues worth buses in Auckland.

(21:04):
It's a little different than the Ministry of Education buses
and it comes back down to Auckland Transport, which is
a whole nother kettle of fish. But I think my
point more is that everyone is impacted in different ways.
You know, just last night there was a story on
One News about rural postal services and again it was

(21:25):
picking up on the city. Folks don't get it, and
I feel like we're going down a bit of a
rabbit hole. They're pitching New Zealander's rural against city when
you know, we all are affected by rising costs of
providing things and there being less money for the government
and council to provide things as they get again more

(21:49):
impacted by rising costs, and the impact is climate change
and weather related events. So it's all very complicated. But yeah,
I just I don't really don't want to hear it
become a rural versus city thing, and we do get it.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
How often do your kids not get on the bus
because it's so the crowded.

Speaker 14 (22:10):
Oh every day, every day buses Oh yeah, every day.
I mean if you google it was this story in
February about it where Disley since and our deputy there
was talking about it as well. And this has gone
on for ten years and it is a major issue
for children getting to school. And I mean I heard
you guys talking last week about school edsontheism. You know,

(22:33):
I could be a regular caller because of like that
is a very complicated issue, you know, when you know,
good to hear Matt that your children just bounce out
of bed in the morning and go to school. But
I don't have that in my house. And added a
complication that they can't get to school easily because the
buses don't run. And this has gone on since my

(22:57):
daughter went to school, and it's gone on before then.
And you know, many people have tried to take action
about it, but Auckland Transport and all their wisdom said,
you know, they needed more information and blah blah blah
blah blah, And then two months later came back and said,
there's no money to provide another bus.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
But hang on a minute. So your kids, but they're
paying to get on the bus, aren't.

Speaker 14 (23:20):
They Yes, they're still paying to get on the bus.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
So if they're paying to get on the bus, then
surely the money that goes to paying to get on
the bus pays for another bus if the bus is
getting overcrowded, I think.

Speaker 14 (23:35):
But yeah, again, it's more complex than that. It's having
the drivers available at the specific time to run, because
you know, school buses run and peak times when they're
trying to run other buses and school buses run on specific.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Roads are running. Are they running the double decker buses?

Speaker 14 (23:53):
I don't think they can run the double decker buses
on the roads at the school bus go because again
I found transport mood. They can't run the double decker buses,
probably on the roads that the school buses run, right
so I live in central East Meadowvankaria. They do run
a double decker on the seventy five route, which is

(24:13):
the main route. Sorry for everyone listening, not in Auckland,
but they can't run those buses. I think they have
tried running bendy buses and then they just defer children
to public buses, which again sounds like a solution that
don't run at the appropriate times, don't get children easily

(24:34):
where they need to go, and I completely empathize with
the people and wherever it was, I just can't the
end of the story and more picked up on the
fat Oh god, we're going down the rural versus city
route again because we want our children to be able
to get to school easily.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Yea, absolutely, Well, like everything, Like everything, it's complex and
there's not enough money for what everyone needs everywhere in
the country. Yes, that's the big problem.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
Great call, Charmaine, Thank you very much. Sorry, we've got
we've got the headlines hot on our tail, but thank
you very much for giving us a bars. It is
twenty six to two.

Speaker 15 (25:12):
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(25:35):
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(25:57):
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number of coins. Presidential candidates Carmala Harris and Donald Trump
are making their last bids for votes two days out
from the election. As CNN polling shows no clear leader.

(26:21):
The all Black season is delicately poised after England choke
at Twickenham. You can see Phil Gifford's full column at end,
said Herald Premium. Now back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Thank you very much, Raylan. We have been talking about
small towns.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
And yeah, that's right. We were reaching out with love
to the small town saying do we need to do
more for them? How people are feeling and they're feeling
unloved there, and what we got back from small town
New Zealand was a lot of hate towards Auckland nine
nine two. The test gene just blow up with people
blaming Auckland, hating Auckland, saying that Auckland is rubbish. And
it's interesting because there's been a ad that's been controversial

(26:57):
that was seven hundred and thirty seven thousand dollars were
spent on and this was an ad to make getting
people to feel more positive about Auckland City. It was
mainly aimed at people that lived in Auckland City that
we're feeling less positive about Auckland City. It's been controversial
because it's questions whether it did anything at all, and meya,
Wayne Brown has said, I don't know if we want
to spend you know, seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars

(27:18):
effectively on a joke. Let's have a listen to the
ad here.

Speaker 10 (27:21):
My name is Eric.

Speaker 11 (27:23):
People Austin asked me, Eric, boy, are you so happy
all the time?

Speaker 3 (27:29):
Well, it's because I'm from the happiest place in the world, Finland.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
So he goes around, he sort of stands in front
of a pub downtown, he stands in Dominion Road. It's
one of those sort of non anti humor ads. I
guess you'd call it so it'd been a quiet taste,
and it kind of makes Auckland look quite depressing, actually
makes Auckland look like a small town, very dry humor strangely,
so I'm not sure how effective it's been. There was

(27:55):
a small study that said that some people that watched
it thought it was made them feel vaguely better about Auckland.
But it's interesting for me because I grew up in
Dunedin and we were almost it was like we were
told to hate Auckland City, to fear Auckland City, to
hate Auckland City, to believe that Dunedin was in every
single way better than Auckland City. And when I moved

(28:17):
from Dunedin Talkland, I was quite surprised that it was different.
I thought it was going to be just a wasteland,
a wasteland of crime. I thought, as soon as I
got off got off the train, because I trained up
from Wellington to Auckland, after driving up and getting on
the ferry and then trained from Wellingtonckland, that I was
going to get rolled for my shoes.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
What kind of shoes were you're wearing? There must have
been nice ones with it.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
I think they were converse. Yeah, yeah, the kind of
thing people will back then. But I was wondering is
that still there? And I sort of saw it with
the Auckland FC game in Wellington over the weekend, that
sort of visceral hatred that Wellington has for Auckland. And
I know you come from christ Church, yeah, Tyler, and
you've got to say christ Church and the Crusaders, there

(29:01):
is a hatred for Auckland the.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Very one eye down in Canterbury. And I can say
that as someone who lived in christ Church for a
long life, long time. They're fiercely proud of the South
Island and christ Church. And well you mentioned Duneeda and
Dunedan doesn't like christ Church that much as well. Well,
we got to say.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Ass handed to us by christ Church for years and
years and years. The Target rugby has always struggled again
Scanta free, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
But the perception of Auckland before I moved up here
over the last two years, and I think everybody could
see this. Over the last two years, the headlines weren't
great for Auckland City. There was crime in the street,
downtown was an absolute, you know, disaster zone. The buses
were terrible, at couldn't do any any job, let alone
run a public transport system. So all these headlines just

(29:46):
reinforced this negative connotation I had with Auckland city for
a long time and then I came up here. None
of it's really true. Yes, yes, Auckland's got its problems,
no doubt about it. I mean the traffic for one, is,
you know, something to get used to. But aside from that,
it is actually a lovely friendly city up here.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
What do you say to allegations that you're a cantab traitor.
So you've moved up here three weeks and now you
love Auckland, then you more than you love Christian.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Hey, I was an Nelson boy, you know. The cantept
never really adopted me completely as one of their own.
I was just part of the feeder team, you know.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
So eight hundred and eighty ten eighty do you have
a negative feeling about Auckland? Whether within Auckland so this
campaign where they spend a lot of money and it
doesn't seem to have had any effect at all within Auckland.
Do you feel positively about Auckland From outside Auckland? Do
you feel negatively or positively about Auckland? Eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty. I when I was growing up, there

(30:42):
was a campaign in Duneda and I'm not sure if
these campaigns about cities do anything at all. There was
one out of Dunedian that went it's all right here,
oh right here, Den he knits out town and it's
all right here, which I thought was kids, because you
want to aim higher than all right in terms of
how your town is. Dunedin's recently gone for your plan

(31:03):
d There's been there's been a number of plans to
make people feel positive about the town. Do those actually yeah,
those campaigns. I don't think Eric from Finland has made
me feel any different about my city at all. Well.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
The other one in christ hutch that was very controversial.
One of those campaigns baby come Back. Remember that obscure
song from the eighties, Baby come Back. So they used
that to try and get people to come back into
the inner city. But most of christ Sheatch looked at
at and said yawn, yeah, horrible.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Other people might remember another one. I think this was
a nationwide one that went don't leave the town till
you've seen the country. I still can't understand what that means.
But I was a small child when I heard it. Yeah,
but yeah, do you how do you feel about Auckland.
Do you love Auckland and you live in Auckland. Do
you hate Auckland and you don't live in Auckland. I'd
love to hear from you.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. It is sixteen to two. It's a new
take on Talkbag.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams Afternoons have your say on eight
hundred eighty ten eighty news talk said be.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
It's fourteen to two.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Yeah, we were talking about rural New Zealand and what
we got back from rural New Zealand was a lot
of hatred for Auckland. This plays into an ad that
spent seven hundred and fifty thousand nearly on making people
like Auckland more. Is it working? Welcome the show, Eric,
your thoughts on Auckland. Do you love it or.

Speaker 7 (32:21):
Mate love it?

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Are you Auckland Auckland born and bred? Or did you
move here?

Speaker 16 (32:28):
Actually born and bred? But I moved to Wellington and
then lived around the world really and then back to Auckland.
Never thought I would come back. When you come back,
you love it. It's actually what I do. I'm very
lucky to be in an industry that's just loving the
part of Auckland.

Speaker 6 (32:44):
That's awesome.

Speaker 5 (32:46):
What very lucky?

Speaker 2 (32:47):
What industry are you in?

Speaker 16 (32:48):
The eric and the marine industry and the folks.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
Ah, yes, good job, good lifestyle. I mean hard work.

Speaker 16 (32:54):
Guess what I'm doing today? Later today, guys taking a
client and was just heading off to the barrier for
a couple of days.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
Oh, just the way that you say the barrier, No
big deal, just off.

Speaker 16 (33:05):
To the barrier, just off the coast.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Have you always felt do you think the perceptions of
Auckland have always been like that for people living here,
Eric or do you think you know, during those tough
tough times the months and we all know we don't
have to hut back too long, but those times, a
lot of people in Auckland started to have second guesses
about how good the city was.

Speaker 5 (33:27):
Yeah, very much so.

Speaker 16 (33:28):
But people still do. People don't realize how lucky they
have it and Auckland. Yeah, you get away and like
going up in Wellington. I went to high school down there.
I had a ball, you know, I got on the bandwagon,
hated Auckland. I'm a big hurricane supporter but I just
had a Wars of weekend down in Wellington with AFC.

Speaker 6 (33:50):
Awesome.

Speaker 8 (33:51):
Oh yeah, awesome times.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah. That was definitely a clashing of Wellington's hatred of
Auckland and Auckland's love of itself coming together. And what
a great game that was. Was fantastic fixture and a
really really good turnout there. I had my dad up
He's from Dunedin and he's supportive as Dunedin is, as
my whole family is, and I'm going down there this
weekend to see my new addition to our family, Walter.

(34:15):
I'm excited about that. But my dad was up here
and I walked up Mount Eden with him and we
looked out across the city and you look out across
the volcanoes and you look out across the greenery that
covers the entire city and it is a beautiful city.
Auckland City is beautiful. And that's what some people don't know.
It doesn't mean that Dunedin's not beautiful, doesn't mean that
Wellington's not beautiful. And look, I've been in christ Chucher

(34:37):
bit lately in christ chach is going off at.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
The amazing city.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
But genuinely Auckland also absolutely kicks outs in my opinion.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
Oh, thank you very much for your phone call. Eric, Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
We'll get to Sheila. Actually get a Sheila.

Speaker 13 (34:53):
Oh, good afternoon, gentlemen. I've got something to say. I've
lived in Auckland all my life. I've traveled Aros and
a year or so ago I was in the South
Island on a tour. I met a very pleasant couple
with whom I had a lengthy conversation. But in my
age group in Blenham Now we talked quite a lot

(35:14):
and read it on things and they said where are
you from? And I said Auckland. Their faces dropped about
ten meters and they said Auckland. I said yes, and
I liked it. Oh, I said, your problem is all
you hear about Auckland is ram raids, crime, police chasing

(35:35):
somebody and that's about it. And they said yes, And
then you listen to me. Auckland is the powerhouse of
this country. It's the main manufacturing scent. It's the exit
for the airport and boatport. I said, it's both the biggest.

(35:56):
I said, we are the ones that keep this economy going.
In this country. If Auckland fools, we don't get our superannuation.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
So that's what.

Speaker 13 (36:08):
They said. You're dead right, really think about it?

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Yeah, so you turn them around.

Speaker 13 (36:14):
Yeah, that's about it. Yeah, that's about what I.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
Wanted to say.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Do you think those perceptions of Auckland are still there
and other parts of New Zealand that they kind of
look at Auckland with a bit of suspicion that it
is crime.

Speaker 13 (36:32):
Well, well you're going to need to look at the papers,
don't you. Yes, I true, well getting test set about
it that it must be people on people's minds, Well.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
Did you like? I get this thing a lot. But
when I when I when I go home to Dunedin
and it happens, it's the same joke. I get arrive
in the airport and I'll get in a taxi to
get into town because Auckland, Dannedin doesn't have any airport,
but Momona has a huge airport that's forty five minutes away.
It's an exaggeration, it's not forty five minutes. But the
taxi driver will often make the same joke. They say,

(37:04):
where do you live? Where do you come from? I
say Auckland and they say, oh, sorry to hear that, mate,
And then you check into the hotel and you say
where are you from Auckland and they go.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Oh, I won't hold it against you.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Yeah, I won't hold it against you. Sorry, sorry to
hear that, mate. And you go Allkland's great and they go, no,
it's not rubbish when up there once and I hated it.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
Oh yeah no, but you've got to I mean you've
got to spend some time up here to enjoy it, right, yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Because you completely changed your mind. You used to be
a big fan of christ Church and now you hate
christ Church. You've turned your back on it. You've been
here for three weeks and now all you do is
walk around. You're basically in Auckland Ere. It's all smashed
avo on toast for you. A year a yuppie. Now
you've just sold out your roots? Tyler? Would that be
fair to say.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
Well, there's text here from Maureen and love your Mareene, Tyler.
We welcomed you with open arms. One day you'll come back.
Until then, embrace jeffer Land. Look as a Nelson boy,
I can say wholeheartedly that I adore christ Church. I
was a bit itinerant in my youth that I didn't
really stay anywhere for that long apart from christ Church,

(38:06):
beautiful city. But all the things people said about Auckland
when I came up here not true.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
Except for the O and toast being pretty good on
Pontibi Road. Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is
the number to call. It is eight minutes to two.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Matt Heath Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight hundredth
and Tyler Adams afternoons.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
News talks be news talks. It'd be John. Getto mate,
We've got about ninety seconds before the news hits us.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
Oh yeah, I want to tell Sheerler to get her
head out of her hood. Auckland is not the pair
house of New Zealand who kept New Zealand going during COVID,
the farmers. She is just totally wrong there.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Well, John, Auckland is forty percent of the gross domestic product,
less than half. Yeah, but I mean it's it's a
small part of the part of the country.

Speaker 8 (39:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:04):
But they cost us so much too.

Speaker 17 (39:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Well, they've actually done surveys and say that, Well it's
not I'll get into into the weeds here, but there
is there has been investigation say that Auckland actually puts
more into the country than it takes out of the country.
That might change with the city rail link.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
Well I think the rest of the rest of New
Zealand could quite well do without Auckland.

Speaker 18 (39:22):
Oh really separatism, Well just quickly on that, John, is
you feel that the farmers and again we've only got
thirty seconds now you feel like your rural community have
been forgotten about when it comes to the economic equation.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
No, I don't know about that.

Speaker 19 (39:39):
I wouldn't know.

Speaker 4 (39:40):
But yeah, the farming always has been the backbone of
New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Oh, there's no doubt about that. Hey, thank you so
much for you call John. So I wait, one hundred
and eighty ten eighty? Do you hate Auckland? Do you
love Auckland? If you live in Auckland, do you like it?
If you moved here, we surprised how much you liked
it or hated it. Yeah, And as I say, I
grew up in Dunedin, all I heard was anti Auckland rhetoric.
I moved up here. It's not too bad, Yeah, not
too bad.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
It's a good place. And everybody from christ Church texting
in and saying, how dare you Tyler? Never come back?

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Yeah, I'm disgusted with you.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
I still love christ Hurt.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
It's a great place.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
Auckland's a great place too. Eight one hundred and eighty
ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Don't hit your roots, mate, It's the.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
Number of cool. Nine ninety two is the text message.
Good afternoon to you.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathan Taylor Adams
Afternoons you for twenty twenty four News Talks EDB.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
New Stalks EDB. Welcome back into the program. It's seven
past two and Matt has kicked the hornet's nest with
this one and a.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Couple of things. Firstly, we were talking about rual in
New Zealand and we got a lot of text through
on ninety two nine two people hating Auckland. So it's
sort of shimmied the topic around to whether you love
Auckland or not. If you live in Auckland do you
like it? If you're outside of Auckland, do you like it?
Do you hate it? Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.
I've got another issue. I've just been told off by
Heather Duplessy Allen for my, my, my, what I wear

(40:59):
to work? Yeah, she said, it's this is News Talks dB.
You can't be wearing Jandles shorts and a T shirt.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
I'm glad she said something, because I want to to
say something.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
But you know, too casual.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
She said, it is too casual. I mean you've kicked off.
You'll wear your Gendy's on my side of the bench,
Mike Costkins side of the table. You're in shorts, like
quite nice shorts though, oh thank you, nice tan tan
operation and then the black T shirt which you always wear.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
Yeah, so is that No one told me that there
was a dress code up here. I mean, I've noticed
most people are wearing most dudes wearing suit jackets up here.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
I just figured that was the case. You know, it's
humid up here in Auckland. We love the weather. It's
almost summer.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Don't try and change me. Don't try and change me.
You'll fail. A lot of people have tried to change
me in my life, and they've all failed. You can
take the boy out of radio headache, but you can't
take the radio headache out of the boy.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
You know, you wouldn't even get away with that. And
Chrustes I'm telling you there was one guy. He works
here now Lee, I'm part of the text the Tic organization,
and always wore shorts even in winter, and he got
so much stick about it, and he said, no, I'm
I'm never wearing pants shorts for life.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
I'm not gonna wear pants tomorrow. I'm not even gonna
wear shorts as a process.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
We're going to take a picture of that and post
it on the Facebook page. But going back to Auckland,
are the perceptions of Auckland fear particularly now and I
mentioned before, over the last couple of years, Auckland have
had some pretty unfortunate headlines, whether right or wrong, about
the crime, about the ram raids, about the traffic, and
traffic is still a bit of an issue, but about

(42:29):
eighteen not being able to run public transport, all the
rest of it.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
So there's no doubt Auckland's got its problems.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
Yeah, But then I came up here. Yeah, and a
lot of those big headlines about crime and about intimidation
and about theft and about getting your car vandalized, they
just weren't true to the extent that I thought they were.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Yeah, and look, we'll look at this is also springing
off this Auckland Council agency that spent seven hundred and
thirty seven thousand on a campaign to boost productivity. Positivity
about Auckland City doesn't look like it was that successful.
It was this kind of weird ad with an eric
finished tourist kind of walking around making Auckland look like
a depress seeing seaside town somewhere in Europe. Kind of

(43:11):
made it look like it was ruck in Iceland. But
I think that was a lot to do with when
Auckland was locked down and most of the rest of
the country was open, and that unnecessary final lockdown in
Auckland that really hit the moraley, the morale of Auckland,
because we were up here, we were locked down. Everyone
else was laughing it up. Wellington was having a great time.

(43:32):
Christ Church we just basically flipping us off and saying
they were having an amazing time when we were doing
the hard yards, mainly just because we had the international
airport and most people coming through here. So I think
that lowered the positivity of Auckland. But as I was
saying before, when I grew up in Dunedin, there was
a lot of anti Auckland rhetoric and I moved to Auckland,
and I love Auckland. I still follow the Highlanders, I

(43:52):
still support the teams that I did growing up and
always be a big Otago fan. But I think Auckland's
a good city. I think you can't go up Mount
Eden and look around at the greenery and the volcanoes
and not go This place is.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
Beautiful, ocean everywhere you look.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
All New Zealand's beautiful, yeah, most of it, but Auckland
is also beautiful.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
I'll just read out the sticks from Mike high. You
to Auckland is wrong on both accounts. You're more Auckland
than I am.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
I'm from Dunedan, you're from Nelson, but continue.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
Yeah, yep. I am sixty born in Nelson, my hometown,
spend most of my life there. Now live in Dunedin,
your hometown. Have a lifestyle block south of Hoka Ticka
the West coast.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Great, love the coast.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
I have an amazing life in the mainland. I have
family in Auckland. However, Auckland is just not for me.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Yeah, fair enough, Yeah, that's right. And you know my
dad comes up here and one of the things he
doesn't like is driving on the motorway.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
Oh yeah, I won't get used to that.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
He's terrified of driving the motorway. Is much better driver
than me. And I tell him, you know, the motorways
is actually the easiest driving.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
You're doing in Auckland, Adam, how you doing?

Speaker 9 (44:52):
Are you not too good?

Speaker 3 (44:53):
Now? You're you're a proud Auckland Is that right?

Speaker 9 (44:57):
Would you say proud? I've lived in Auckland all my
life and I hate the place right, And it's only
because basically, you know, and I was a typical Orchlander.
I've never gone anywhere else in New Zealand. I mean,
I've never even visited the South Island. But I went

(45:18):
down to Parmison North recently for my son's title note tournament,
and I love the place. It was like the roads
were wide, there were no cars, it was it was
just amazing.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
So where was that? Sorry? I just mussed where you
went down to Paris North?

Speaker 10 (45:37):
Ye?

Speaker 20 (45:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (45:38):
And the thing is, like, you know, I haven't really
been many other places south of kind of Popoor, but
but yeah, this was probably the furthest south I've been.
And I was like, mait, this is awesome. I mean,
Auckland is just the traffic is ridiculous. I mean, I
can't say it. I'm I'm driving all the time for
my job, and it was like even on a center
then Sunday is the worst time to go out of the car.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
That's so true.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
Yeah, if I if I need to plan to do
something and Christ, you don't even have to think about it,
just jump in the car and do it. In Auckland,
I've got to really strategize, right, how is it going
to take me to get to the suburb and then
how long to get back and how much time have
I got? It is Yeah, it's a lot of Edmondy
soe edam.

Speaker 9 (46:15):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm live in South Oakland now. I grew
up as a wisty Oh my god, West is even
worse now. But yeah, I was riding my pushbike along
Lincoln Road rid ride to school. You can't get you
you'd be taking your life and surround hands. Few rode
a bike on Lincoln Road. Now it's ridiculous. And yeah,
but now like I live South Aukland now, But I

(46:38):
always used to think, oh, you know what, it would
be good to live in Green Lane or live in Hoursley.
That would be where I'd want to go. Oh, I
want to go there now because we'll take forty five
minutes just to get out of my driveway, so it's
just ridiculous. Yeah, so this is the way, and you
know down Partison North. Got there and it was like
it was a wide there was. I went down. It
was a little suburban area and they had nice old
you know, these old homes all with a decent bit

(47:01):
of land and not a single car parked on the road.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Yeah, that's interesting. It's good to you someone supporting Palming
Nor because Parmi North gets a bit of a cack
as being a potentially dull place. It's got the fantastic
Rugby Museum. Once I went to a nightclub that was
themed some kind of Egyptian theme and that was a good, good,
good night out. I actually took to the mayor of
Parmi North. There was some survey where Parmi North took
a bit of a kicking around some reason. And the
mayor of Parmeston North is a great defender of the city.

(47:28):
I can't remember his name, but.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
Is it Adam Maybe? Are you the mayor of Parmy
North Adam?

Speaker 9 (47:33):
Yeah, wow, jeez, you know I would do it. I'll
take it.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
Yeah, you're a good man.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
So you're gonna have sticks and move from South Auckland
to Parmi North, Adam, put your money where your mouthers.

Speaker 9 (47:42):
Ah, you know, i'd love too, but my kids are
My kids are all grown up and they're all close.
So the only thing that would stop me from leaving
Orkland would be my kids are still here. So if
they all bug it off, then I'd bug it off too.

Speaker 6 (47:53):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
I'd like to hear something positive at Parmy North. Good stuff.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
Yeah, thank you very much, Adam. Oh eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call quick text.
Then we'll get to more of your phone calls shortly.
I love Auckland so much. I even have a holiday
home here. But it helps set these all generations of
family here too. I hate the anti Auckland sentiment and
love all New Zealanders wherever we choose to live in
this beautiful country of ours. From Nicola.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Oh, that's beautiful Nicolas, so much for that. And I'll
tell you what you won't hear. Auckland is slagging off
the rest of the country. That's what you don't hear
up here. As I say, I grew up in dned
and love Dunedin, love my hometown. But you hear a
lot of Dunedin Knights slaging off Auckland. But Aucklanders going
on Dunedin. It's beautiful here. It's an amazingly beautiful here.
The architecture is amazing. We're talking about Hokatika. Auckland is
rave about the west coast of the South Island.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Yeah, but West coasts don't really care about Auckland, do they.
I think coasters. Coasters are easy as coasters. I don't
worry about too much about making sure that the point
at the pub is a fair price.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Coasters have a good time. Although I was talking to
a doctor on the weekend that was working on the
coast and he said, the odd client you have has
their chest here going through this singlet. But apart from
that great.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
Place, that's good time. So eighty ten eighty is the
number to call. It is a quarter past too.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
You're new home of Afternoon Tour and Taylor Adams Afternoon
Call eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
News Talk said, very good afternoon to you. It's eighteen
past two and we have been talking about the perception
of Auckland. You had you stronger language than that.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Mat Yeah, that's right. We were talking about rural in
New Zealand. We were looking to have some love for
rural New Zealand and see if we could help out.
What we got back on nine two niney two was
a lot of anti Auckland rhetic rhetoric. So we're asking
the question, do you hate Auckland from outside Auckland, do
you like Auckland, do you love Auckland living in Auckland,

(49:41):
or if you're outside of Auckland, do you have a
positive view of the place. Yeah, and there's a side
issue going on here where I was told off by
Heather Top to see Allen before about what I was
wearing to work, because look, I dress casually, I've got
shorts on, I've got.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
Not Usually usually you're looking the part you've moved up
to the first floor, and but now today, yeah, well.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
That's just because I like to start summer. I like
to kick off summer by being I think it brings morale.
I think when I walked into the office, everyone's dressed
all nicely. They saw me, and everyone thought, look at that,
there's summers here. Matt's and a little pair of shorts
and his T shirt and beer feet.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
You can take the boy out of Danita, but you
can't take the dunners out of the boy.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
But there's a lot of tips coming through. You must
show respect to News Talks, ed Be. You should be
proud to work there. You should wear the uniform of
news Talks, he beat. There's no uniform, but the uniform
kind of is a little this. This may be a
dress standard. Maybe I've turned up to sort of like
a black tie event and.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
Smart casual people are talking out there.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Yeah they are.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
I would never expose my lower legs legs at Newstalks,
he beat. It's just not done here.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
I say, bring it on. So by the time, within
six months, even Barry Soaper will be wearing shorts to
it to work.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
It's a bold call. Get a HEMI hello, how are you?

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (50:53):
Very good?

Speaker 21 (50:54):
Thank you?

Speaker 17 (50:55):
About those About those shorts? You know, the only people
that wear shorts are the ones that have good legs.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
I've got great legs.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
Great the time, we'll put the photo up and people
can can decide for.

Speaker 8 (51:08):
The Oh, that'd be a good one.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
Yeah yeah, Now now are you an Auckland? Are you
kind of are, aren't you? Would you call yourself a
Auckland living on way Hickey Island.

Speaker 17 (51:19):
I kind of like moved to Auckland nineteen ninety nine,
just before the millennium. I moved up from Wellington. I
was in a little rural area called Upper Hut yep. Yeah,
And I moved up here and I've been here for
twenty four years, but on and off, coming backwards and forwards.
And I must admit I was trying to find the

(51:41):
term for the for the Aucklanders. And you said that
about twenty minutes ago at Jaffa, Yes, and that was
quite out there because since I've been here kind of,
I've been here on and off for twenty years, and
I find Auckland really good. The people are really nice.

(52:01):
It's hard to go to a rugby game and the
RSA and that and watch the Hurricanes play play the
Blues yep yeah. And it was terrible this last year
when they beat us. I mean when they beat Wellington.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
You still wear that yellow jersey with pride to me.

Speaker 17 (52:23):
Look, I don't know if you call it two faced
bone of Auckland Wednesday won if Wellington Wednesday win.

Speaker 9 (52:29):
And I'm on both sides.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
Yeah, good Man. I mean you met you patched over,
didn't you. You've always been a you know, Danita man
through and through a targo and you patched over to
Auckland a couple of years ago.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, and oh what like in terms
of supporting Auckland rugby, Yeah, Noman, No, I'm not. I
support the Highlanders. I'll support because I live so close
to Eton Park. I'll support the Blues of it they're
playing anyone else, But if it's the Blues Highlanders, then
I'm going.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
To support the Highlanders above each way.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Yeah, but people have called me a Blue Lander and
I personally find that that that hurtful. But it must
have been an interesting thing over the weekend because you know,
Wellington's very proud of the Phoenix. Yep, Auckland FC comes
down there. That was a real clash of the brashness
of Auckland coming down and yellow fever came out in force.
Some people said it took Auckland to get a football

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team for Wellington to remember they had one. That was
hurtful I imagine for some Wellington fans. But that was
a real clash of Auckland versus Wellington. So I'd like
to hear what Wellington people thought about that Auckland FC
going down there and beating them too.

Speaker 17 (53:30):
Now, it was an awesome game. I mean even up
to the last ten minutes, I was going, oh, it
could be a drawer, and then all of a sudden,
too north.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
Yeah, yeah, hear me. I'm going to admit something here.
I've never been to waya Heakee Island. I will at
some stage in the near future. But to me life,
life seems pretty good on whye Hecke Island.

Speaker 7 (53:49):
Yeah, it was just like jumping on a boat and
going to the barrier.

Speaker 17 (53:51):
Apparently, yes.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
Thing since you've moved up here, Tyler, one of the
great things you can do is get on the ferry,
go to Wayhecki, rent a bike and cycle your way
around some vineyards over there.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
Have plenty of penis.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
That that feels like you've gone overseas. That feels like
you're you're visiting another another country. It's it's phenomenal. It's
such a good time.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
The e bikes, I don't want a pedal. You can
get any bike, okay, hear me. You're a good man,
thank you very much. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty is the number to call. It's twenty three pass
two back in a month.

Speaker 22 (54:24):
Do you hate Auckland, Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams afternoons call
oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty on news TALKSB twenty
five past two.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
Heated discussion here on news TALKSB. We love it. So
there's been an ad spent to seven hundred and fifty
thousand dollars trying to make seven hundred and fifty thousand
dollars on at Auckland Council Agency to try and change
the perceptions of Auckland among locals and the rest of
the country, make people feel more positive about it. It
was quite a strange ad a guy from Finland, because

(54:59):
apparently Finland's happiest place in the world. Eric he comes
over here, has what looks quite like quite a boring
time around Auckland. And who knows if it changed perception.
And I'm going to say no, no, But we asked
the question, if you're in Auckland, how do you feel
about it? There's a lot of negativity around Auckland. Do
you love it? Do you hate it? If you're in
the rest of the country one hundred eight hundred and

(55:20):
eighty ten eighty nearly said the other number eighty. What's
your perception of Auckland? You love it?

Speaker 3 (55:27):
You hate it?

Speaker 7 (55:27):
Yep?

Speaker 3 (55:28):
Greg, you're from the South Island. Do you hate Auckland?

Speaker 12 (55:32):
No, I don't hate him. You storing up on dead
beat all the time?

Speaker 3 (55:36):
Mate?

Speaker 8 (55:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (55:37):
Nice and nice to chat again.

Speaker 12 (55:39):
Now Hi Matte, Hey listen, No, I don't hate and
I mean I've got the transports. It's a small one
at that, but I've had a lot of work out
of Auckland and the fact is that Auckland doesn't work.
The rest of the country doesn't work. It's the powerhouse
will meant to be of the country, like London is
to England. And I've lived David. I've lived in London,
I've lived in Israel. But I'm a Storts Canary man,
as you know, and I love nothing more than seeing

(56:01):
Canary or the Crusaders beat Orphland. One of the two
saddest days I've ever had rugby was eighty five when
we lost the Shield to Aukland. I still haven't got
over there. In ninety three when we lost to the
Ponds a tricking and fifteen nine, so every time we
paid them and beat them. It always makes me very happy.
But no, you know, I think people get a bit

(56:22):
silly about Auckland, and Auckland got The rest of the
country was very good to us down here in christ
which after the Sheiks and everything happened, and yeah, a
lot of people going deep and there's a lot of help,
and sometimes I think we need to get over the steadiness.
As I said, I'm very staunched cannery men. I'm very
proud Crusaders fan. Who wouldn't they, you know, to live

(56:43):
outside christ Check.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
I wonder if people around the rest of the country
felt a little bit better about Auckland a bit more
sympathy to Auckland when we were locked down a lot
longer than the rest of the country, because I know
I was locked down here and looking out and people
having great time. He had politicians in Wellington that were
just living their life. Meanwhile we were locked down and
it seemed to go over and I could see important

(57:05):
parts of my kid's life being taken away from them,
and saw all these kind of issues for people, and
a lot of the issues that have happened in Orcans
since then post lockdown. I wonder if there's any that
the change, there was a slight change in the perception
of Auckland as maybe we had it a bit tougher
in those times.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
Well, Greg, you were in christ Sheets at the time.
Can you cast your mind back to that time?

Speaker 12 (57:28):
Yeah? Well, I mean I fund Auckland has got a
rough deal, but that was the people's fun suits who
did that, And we'll know who I'm talking about. And
I did think it was ridiculous and organ got a
rough deal there. And you know, no there what people say,
Auckland's got auclans doesn't work, as I said before, the
rest of the country doesn't work. And you know they've
got their problems and it's not perfect. I guess years

(57:51):
ago people used to think it was a bit of
brashness and the big city syndrome and so forth. You
get that in England about London. People hate Londoners.

Speaker 21 (58:01):
Just like you.

Speaker 12 (58:01):
I think the world ends at the Watford get.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, No good too, Sheddigan.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
Greg, Yeah, well you say you know that Oakland being
a business powerhouse, Auckland has the largest contribution to the
national GDP at thirty seven point nine percent. Wellington has
the second at twelve point five percent. Although that's a
little bit confusing GDP because obviously the rural sector and
you know, the primary sector is where most of our
export earnings are coming from. Yeah, but you know a
lot of head officers here and a lot of industry

(58:27):
up here as well.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
Yeah, exactly. You're a good man, Greg, Thank you very much. Andrew.

Speaker 23 (58:31):
You're for am in Vericago, queen down now, But I
was from in Bicago and I just wanted to share
a story about how sections could be created and advertently
about Auckland.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
Please.

Speaker 23 (58:43):
Yeah, about ten years ago, I was of a medical
facility down in in Vericago and my medical specialist resigned,
so I had to undertake an international search for a
replacement because there was nobody available in New Zealand. Now,
to put it in a perspective, there was sixty nine
vacancies in New Zealand and medical specialists in the field

(59:06):
as a timing sitting spots and lovely places like Nelson
and Hawk's Bay and things like that, so nobody thought
that I could find anybody to replace my medical specialist
at the time. So managed to attract somebody from Iowa
in the US, and she was a young mum. She
had a four year old adopted daughter and a seven

(59:27):
year old son and a sister medical specialist.

Speaker 24 (59:30):
Left on December thirty.

Speaker 23 (59:31):
First, and she jumped on a plane in Iowa on
the first of December, left her family to come here
so that we would have medical cover, you know, when
we needed it and anyone. She flew for thirty two
hours to get to Auklands, and she had a very
pleasant person at customs welcoming her, and she thought, oh,

(59:54):
this is very good. And the customs lady looked.

Speaker 16 (59:57):
Through the.

Speaker 23 (59:59):
Passport and saw that she had a working visa, and
so the customs officer says, oh, were you going to
be working? She said, I'm going to be working in
the for cargol And the customs officer says, couldn't you
get a job in Auckland?

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
Oh wow, Wow, it's coming from the top.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
Obviously you can't be running that kind of line on
the country.

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
That's a great story, Andrew. Imagine that the immigration officers smart,
couldn't get a job in Auckland. Ah yeah, quick text
to the headlines, guys, I love Auckland. I was born there,
and whenever I visit, I just feel like I have
arrived home. I was born there. I lived there as
a teenager and if I could afford it, I would
live there again. Venora from christ Use.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Oh Well, eight hundred and eighty, ten eighty. What do
you feel about Auckland if you're outside of Auckland, do
you feel positively about it? Or do you hate Auckland
like most people. When I was growing up in Dunedin
hated Auckland. And if you're in Auckland and you have
to live here and don't like it, we'd also love
to hear from you. Eight hundred and eighty, ten eighty.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
It is twenty eight to three.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
US talk sai'd be headlines with blue bubble tax.

Speaker 15 (01:01:08):
It's no trouble with a blue bubble. Diabetes n Z
says health ENZ needs to be more specific with its
diabetes information, with latest figures showing cases of the disease
have risen by more than ninety five thousand in three years,
but it doesn't specify which have type one diabetes and
which have type two. A PSA polls found nine out

(01:01:30):
of ten mental health workers fear for patient safety as
police step back from distress call outs from today.

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
A delay in the murder trial of.

Speaker 15 (01:01:39):
Kingdrun Chao in christ Church with a juror calling in sick.
Just as Lisa pressed and says, depending on the jura's health,
evidence is expected to resume tomorrow. Canterby University research has
revealed up to seven hundred and fifty thousand New Zealanders
and five hundred thousand buildings are at risk from flooding.

(01:01:59):
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their phones than eating and exercising. That's according to a
Canterbury University state following nearly four hundred social media users.
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what Electricity, a retailer's group say. You can find out

(01:02:20):
more at Ends and Herald Premium. Back now to Matt
Eath and Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
Thank you very much. Raylean and we have been talking
about the perceptions of Auckland on the back of seven
hundred and fifty thousand dollars almost spent on a campaign
to increase the happy perception of Auckland. Mayor Wayne Brown
wasn't happy with that spend.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
No, he said, seven hundred and fifty thousand on a
joke that you can't prove did anything is not how
he wants money spent. But the question is perceptions around
Auckland eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Do you love it?
Do you hate it? Do you live here and love it?
Or do you live here and hate it? Do you
live outside of Auckland and hate it. We've got this
text here that's come through saying I have to I
don't live in Auckland. I have to co there every

(01:03:00):
now and then for work. Absolutely hate being there, loathe
every part of it, and try and avoid it so
that you go.

Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
There, you go here the how are you?

Speaker 21 (01:03:09):
I'm fine, thank you. I've been here all my life.
I was born in Auckland, not far from where I
am now. We made sure our kids saw their own
country before going overseas. I'm wondering I could never understand
outside of Auckland we meet in our travels. We met

(01:03:30):
a lot of animosity from people all of particularly down
in the South Island. I could never understand it, because
I love everyone. But there's a lot of animosity towards Akland.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
That's so true. That's so true here. As I was
said before, I grew up in Duneda, and there's anti
Auckland propaganda down there is so strong, to the point
that I thought I came up talking them for work,
and I thought that I was making a huge sacrifice
coming up here because of what Auckland was going to
be like and the troubles and the crime and the

(01:04:04):
traffic and everything. And I was pleasantly surprised. Still love Duneda,
and there's so much great about that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
Great city, great city, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
But Auckland's fantastic as well.

Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
Yeah, I mean the same for me. I've only been
up here what a month and a half now, and
with all the headlines, you know, I felt like I
was going into Johannesburg in South Africa. You don't stop
at red lights, you keep keep your doors at all times.
It's not like that at all, you know. It's not
a sispet of crime. It's actually a really nice city
up here, as is christ Church. I still love christ Church,

(01:04:33):
but Auckland is certainly not what it's made out to be. Greg.
How are you okay here?

Speaker 7 (01:04:38):
You guys? Well, I think I can talk on all
fronts because I'm a born and breed Aucklander, in fact,
a West Aucklander. Asta I loved there for this paralle
twenty five twenty seven years. I loved it as a
place to live, particularly loved for white degree ranges on
both coasts. Moday fantastic, lovely, lovely. But I've lived away

(01:05:02):
from all for a long time now. I looked at
them and christ Is for the last twenty years and look,
I've always had that moment where people think, well, they
had preconceptions about Auckland, and I think, you know, with
people who live outside Canterbury think of Cantabrians as three
one night, but that's particularly about these sports teams, and

(01:05:22):
why shouldn't they be. Their sports teams have been pretty
fantastic over the years. But the one thing I noticed
is this, no matter where I've lived, and I've lived
in four different cities in my life, is always the
good parts and they're not so good parts. And you know,
no city is different in that aspect. So, you know,
people who go to Auckland for one or two days
for business and hate every second of it, maybe they

(01:05:43):
haven't had the opportunity to go and sit on a
beach on the east coast, or go for a walk
through the y tax, or go for a fish out
in might about, you know, around the back of the noises,
you know, every city has thought as good and bad.
So that's what I've come to realize from being around
from what.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
Well, that's that's one hundred percent at core in my opinion, Greg.
And you get that with the Warriors trying to attract
Australian player to come and play in New Zealand, and
all they do is they flow to the airport, they
go to Penrose, they go play at Mount Smart Stadium,
which is beautiful, big hype crowd, it's fantastic, and they
go back. But that's the perception of Auckland. They don't

(01:06:22):
know about all the other things. They don't know about
the waterfront, they don't know about their leafy suburbs. You've
got to take them up Mount Eden to just have
a lock of three sixty of how beautiful it is.
Looking at it the wait takeeries looking out over the harbor,
looking at it rang here, Toto. I mean, it is
a beautiful city, but some part of parts of it aren't.
And show me any city in the world that doesn't
have bad parts and balances and trade offs and good

(01:06:45):
and bad.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
Well, you boys have sold that well they should have
given you. That's of one hundred and thirty five thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Well, I've got a few texts that will disagree. Matt
and Tyler. Auckland is the Trump of New Zealand. I'm
not sure what that means. Matt and Tyler. There's nothing
worse than Auckland except for everywhere else in New Zealand.
So Marx doesn't like any of it. And this other
TEXTO nine two. I love going to Auckland to leave
at the airport, So.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
That's still coming through A nine nine two. Greg, thanks
very much. Just so final questioning you love in christ Church?

Speaker 7 (01:07:13):
How do you live in christ Church?

Speaker 12 (01:07:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
Loving it, loving it?

Speaker 7 (01:07:17):
Oh absolutely, It's fantastic city to live in, the team
to get around, great facilities and the rebuilt after the
earthquake is really making the city a great place to be.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
Greg, You're so right. I've been spending a bit of
time down on christ Church the moment and it's really
coming back. It is a fantastic it feels like an
international city. Riverside market and stuff springing. Christ Church absolutely beautiful.

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
Oh yeah, the death it alls just don't steal them.
Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to two, it's nineteen to three.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
everything in between. That Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons you
for twenty twenty four US talks.

Speaker 3 (01:07:58):
There'd be sixteen to three.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
We're talking about perceptions of Auckland. Do you love it?
Do you hate it? Do you like living here? I
hate living here? If you live out of Auckland, how
do you feel about it? Here's a text on nine
two nine two as Banksy, the ex Auckland me said,
there's two kinds of New Zealanders those who live in
Auckland those who want to live in Akland. That's from Shane.

Speaker 3 (01:08:15):
Very good Dean, how are you.

Speaker 5 (01:08:18):
Hey?

Speaker 6 (01:08:18):
Gooday guys. Look, I'm I'm third generation Orglander, born and
breda Mount Ruth girl, so a little bit of blue
color west east side. Ye, my boys and me we
went to Seth Life Saving on the West coast and
we love the city. But you know, as we've grown older,

(01:08:42):
my sons and all that have moved out, one sons
in christ Church and all that. I love all these
cities and just upsets me that, you know why they
don't dislike Auckland. I mean, if they meet me, I'm
no different from any other Kiwi. I'm just a blue

(01:09:03):
collar local boy that's worked in Auckland, love Auckland, passionate,
but I'm still a Kiwi. So I'm just you know,
that's only my my only concern of these conversations about
the gap thing I don't do lar days.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
Well, you should that the Lusk.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Hey, Dean, what do you think? What do you think
motivates the anti Auckland rhetoric that you hear outside of
Auckland and the likes of Wellington, christ Church, the need
in Primary. I think they're the three three haters of Auckland.

Speaker 6 (01:09:38):
I don't understand. I really don't understand. I love Wellington
as well. I've got mates down there. When I go
down there, I'm one of their brothers. So when I
all of a sudden, no one says I'm a jacker.
They just say I'm one of my brother from a
different mother.

Speaker 4 (01:09:56):
So I don't understand why there.

Speaker 6 (01:09:59):
Is this hatred in Auckland when true Auckland is born
and bred. I'm no different from any other Kiwi in
New Zealand, and that.

Speaker 12 (01:10:08):
It's a little bit of continues to upset me.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Why you were good on you, Dean and I agree
there's different things in every city because I still I
still contend that the best night out you can have
in New Zealand is in Wellington.

Speaker 7 (01:10:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
If if I've got work down there and I've got
to go out for an evening, boy, oye boy, it's
a good night out. And I know it's having struggles
at the moment and the hospital industry is being absolutely
punished from.

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
Multiple ankles down there. But last time you're out in Wellington,
is this a story that you're able to share on here?

Speaker 9 (01:10:38):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
Boy, that was a biggie. There a multiple venues across
the city. Fantastic.

Speaker 9 (01:10:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
Yeah, I mean when you go out into Wellington and
it is, it's just got such an eclectic mix of
bars that you can't help but have a good time.
I mean that was the case, but now Auckland is
absolutely competing with Wellington on that front.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
Well here's a tex nine two nine two. I've lived
in Wanaca, christ Church in Viz twice or Wally Alexander
now nine years in Auckland. I've embraced the surf, beach
bush lifestyle and feel Auckland has some of New Zealand's
best scenery on its door set, not to mention winter
doesn't last seven months here like it does everywhere else.

Speaker 8 (01:11:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
Do you know the one thing that I don't like
about Auckland? What no mountains. That's the only thing I
can think of. I can deal with the traffic on
miss mountains I really like. Yeah, but they don't get
any snow.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
On the beautiful mang it in Auckland.

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
Yeah, the volcanoes are really nice. They just need to
be a bit bigger, is all I'm saying. Walk up them,
you can a Derek. Oh no, Craig, how are you doing?

Speaker 19 (01:11:37):
Yay?

Speaker 21 (01:11:38):
Guys?

Speaker 24 (01:11:38):
How I'm not that well traveled because my brother lived
in room for years and you know, he came back
a few years back and he said he's been everywhere
and Auckland would by far be one of the most
beautiful cities in the world. With the Powerackey golf, all
the island. We've got so much to offer in Auckland,
you know, the sandy East Coast features the ruggedness of

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the West Coast within a forty minute drive. We've got
hunting the Goldfish, you know, is a really fantastic place.
I was born in red Here, I live ruined aucland
now I would never go back to suburbia. But what
I noticed is I talked to a lot of people
in business and that kind of thing in the yards

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where they come from. Very few people I meet now
actually were born at Auckland. One of them come up
to the South and other parts. And maybe that could
be something who has ented as well, because I spent
a bit of time down in Alatanda and I was
speaking to owner of a big station there and he said,
for X amount of generations, they're probably going to sell it.

(01:12:44):
As kids rent to the university and they're now in
Auckland practice in law and medicine and that kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
Yeah, well, if you look at the Matt and Tyler
afternoons on Z B. Tyler from Nelson through christ Church.

Speaker 24 (01:12:56):
From also the city's making some huge mistakes as well,
you know, getting rid of things on the iconic speedway,
Western Springs and that kind of thing. All those things
are made Auckland great, and I think we definitely have
the wrong running the show.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
Yeah, very good text here nineteen ninety two. Live in Auckland,
Hate it you. Unitary plan has made it a dump.
Spend as little there, a little time there as I
can says this text. You go there, there's a count
of opinion.

Speaker 3 (01:13:29):
And this one quickly. Most of the animosity towards Auckland
comes from Auckland getting everything, concerts, government money, et cetera.
And yet Auckland is complain to get things It should
be paid by their rates, not the rest of the
country and taxes. What do you say to that one?

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
Well, yeah, I mean I don't know. Wellington gets a
bit of government money as well. This text in nineteen
nine two, Sorry mate, Auckland as are a holes. They're
terrible people to do business with. They love lawyers and contracts.
We're everywhere else A handshake will do.

Speaker 3 (01:14:02):
Let's bring the country together. It is ten to three.

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
The issues that affect you, and a bit of fun
along the way. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons you
for twenty twenty four news talk z'b news Talks.

Speaker 3 (01:14:18):
He'd be sorry just having again a never about how
good Auckland is and how much Matts hates Duneda in
his hometown.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
Then how dare you take that back?

Speaker 3 (01:14:28):
You love such an allegation? Do you right?

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
Derek?

Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
Are you doing?

Speaker 10 (01:14:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:14:34):
Good things?

Speaker 25 (01:14:34):
Check so I go up in croaches place called Hallsall
And when I was eighteen or nineteen, I thought, right,
I'm going to go and do seasonal work up in Matchwaca.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
And great place.

Speaker 25 (01:14:43):
Couldn't great place, But when it's summertime, the place just packed.
Was just people from all over the world go there
to you know, a bit of an alternative lifestyle. But
once once the season's over, it just goes back to
a little we you know, real quiet down. And then
I moved to Westport, and honestly, even now, if I
think if I went back to Westport, it's a little

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bit like going back to the eighties. And I don't
know if it's anyone there. Everything slows that I don't
even know.

Speaker 8 (01:15:10):
If they've got traffic lights and we sport yet.

Speaker 25 (01:15:12):
But you know, I loved the place.

Speaker 26 (01:15:13):
It was great.

Speaker 25 (01:15:14):
Then I went back to Cross Each and lived a
littleton fished out of there. And I'll tell you what,
sailing into Acerra Harbor on a nice day, there ain't
a bit beautiful more beautiful place in New Zealand. But
one thing about the South Island that you can drive
for miles and miles and miles, maybe see a few
cars and not seeing any cars for hours or people.
But then then I moved frong Ora and then I

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came down to Auckland and I've been here for twenty
three years. But even when you're out in the country,
there's still somewhere tricks in a fence or riding a
horse or climbing some cliff face or something.

Speaker 9 (01:15:48):
There's just people everywhere.

Speaker 25 (01:15:50):
But I don't mind it. I don't mind it at all,
and I've got it. I lived in South Aalkland for
a lot of years and I'm over on the shore
now and one thing I like about the shore.

Speaker 9 (01:15:58):
Is I don't see any graffiti.

Speaker 25 (01:16:00):
I just I can't stand graffeed in. I just don't
see it over here. I don't know if there's I
don't know if the social economics different over the side
of the bridge. It's it's just through and the beaches
over here are brilliant And I don't mind it. And
you do have to plan it to go somewhere. You
do have to plan. It's like trying to get into
the moon was at that time, you know when they're
going to have the Rugby World Cup here, and they

(01:16:21):
were saying, well, it's probably easier it's probably easier to
get to the moon then to get to Eden Park
at times.

Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
Yeah, very nicely, said Derek. And you've certainly been all
over the shop Modeweka, fung at A now Auckland. But
is that right? No graffiti on the shore. I haven't
been over to the shore that much.

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
The Northern Beaches they need to change then over the
north shore of the Northern Beaches rebranded. No, I love
it over on the north shore. Do people not like
Auckland or do they not like Auckland traffic? That's what
you get for having lots of water and not much
land Totrong. It is the same, just a smaller scale.
That's from Jennifer. Yeah. I mean it's interesting because I
worked in breakfast radio for eleven years, so I never

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saw traffic. Yeah, so I was like, what is it
one talking about rush hout because I was always driving
to work at five am. But recently I've just been
late for everything because I'm not fackering in the traffic.
The traffic is And I've been out to Buckland Beach
to a kid's birthday party from central Auckland.

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
It's a big drive. That's that's a big drive.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
Their traffic will test you, certainly. Well forty two minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
Lee, We've got about sixty seconds.

Speaker 10 (01:17:25):
How are you fine?

Speaker 27 (01:17:27):
Absolutely fine. I came here two thousand and five and
I lived in a lovely place called Langholm in the
attack Anti rangy nice and we stayed there two years,
and I wish I'd never left. I came down to
the South Island. I tried not to get tongue tired
or be but what I never felt like a foreigner there. Everyone,

(01:17:47):
all our neighbors were absolutely brilliant. Everywhere I went. I
worked all over at Auckland, you know, Brown's Bay, and
I never felt and I came here, no, just not
the same. But by then and I'd realized I've made
a big Moses.

Speaker 8 (01:18:01):
And everyone I meet.

Speaker 27 (01:18:01):
Down here goes, oh, how long have you been in
New Zealand? I said, our twenty years with my family
and started off in Auckland and all of them, No,
I bet you didn't like it there.

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
Yeah, well, Lee, that's a good place to finish. I
think that Lee was disappointed. He moved out of Auckland,
loved to Hear and that is where we'll leave it.
Good discussion, passionate discussion. Yeah, but after three o'clock we
want to talk about cheating on the back of Dave Groh.
He's trying to ask for forgiveness from his wife after cheating.
Can you ever forgive someone for doing that?

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
Titus is no.

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
I say yes, ohight hundred eighty ten eighty is a
number to call. Ninety two nine two is a text number.
Good afternoon to you News talks Abe. We're talking about
Dave Grohl. He is no longer working with a divorce
attorney and is hoping to work things out with his
wife Jordan Blum, after revealing he became a father outside
of his marriage. You will remember this. Back in September,

(01:18:53):
Big Pilava, he shared a statement on Instagram revealing his infidelity, writing,
I have recently become the father of a new baby daughter,
born outside of my marriage, and I planned to be
a loving and supportive parent to her. But we've asked
the question, can you ever come back from from cheating
on someone? You say you absolutely can.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
Yeah, one hundred percent, And he's well, not one hundred percent,
but I think it is definitely possible, and it's definitely
happened in the past. But he did the old David
Grohl sausage role. What he's doing there is he's got
rid of the lawyers. Yeah, and he's just said I'm
just going to try and make this work and open
his heart and say sorry, can we work this out
and can we go forward together? Because my family is

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the most important thing to me. Obviously you'd question if
it was that important to you, why were you cheating?
But that's another thing. So I got a bunch of
texts coming through in nine two nine two. No, you're
very right, Tyler, there's no going back. Children don't need
to grow up in a house full of resentment. Better
with two parents who care about them apart. It's for life.
You have very good morals, Tyler. But I wouldn't expect

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anything less of you. Bless that's from Lynn.

Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
Oh, thank you. Lynn. Well, you raise the question about
children being involved. That does change the dynamic. When there
are other other parties that play, particularly children, then that's
a different scenario for me because I've said I said
earlier that me and may have had that discussion that
if one of us cheated, that's pretty much it for
the relationship. That is no going back scenario. If there

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were children involved, would that change that conversation, maybe because
there's more at play than just me and may there
are other other children involved in that situation that didn't
you know, they didn't make any mistake there, so that
does change things.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
Yeah. So how soon as you see been with your
partner for nine years?

Speaker 10 (01:20:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:20:35):
Nine years?

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
So how soon into the relationship did you have the
very odd conversation that if you cheat on me, it's done?
And then she said, if you cheat on me, it's
done with no.

Speaker 3 (01:20:45):
Circumstances within six months?

Speaker 8 (01:20:47):
All right?

Speaker 10 (01:20:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:20:48):
Yes? Oh wow, oh eight hundred and eighty ten, eight
years the number to call? Hey you, Rachel? Hi, Hi,
Now what's your view on this? Can you forgive someone
who's cheated on you?

Speaker 20 (01:20:59):
Definitely not?

Speaker 28 (01:21:01):
Maybe a kiss, maybe like a kiss, but no, not
proper cheating.

Speaker 6 (01:21:05):
Definitely not.

Speaker 3 (01:21:07):
And have you been in the Rachel?

Speaker 9 (01:21:10):
No, thankfully.

Speaker 17 (01:21:11):
So.

Speaker 28 (01:21:12):
My my husband and I have been together two years
and we've spoken about it and we're both if it happens,
definitely no coming back from that.

Speaker 6 (01:21:18):
It'll be over. Even so we have children.

Speaker 28 (01:21:22):
You just wouldn't ever be able to forget about it.
Things wouldn't be the same.

Speaker 23 (01:21:26):
You can't say things on.

Speaker 6 (01:21:27):
On the radio. But you know your.

Speaker 28 (01:21:32):
Sex life wouldn't be the sack.

Speaker 9 (01:21:34):
I just wouldn't.

Speaker 6 (01:21:35):
It'll be ruined forever.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
But what what about this, Rachel? The past is the past,
the future is the future. You're You're only in the
here and now. So you've got to make the right
decision for yourself now. And it is possible to let
go of resentments and move forward. I mean, we've all
forgiven family members for things in the past, and if
you don't, you can, you can forgive. Maybe you don't
have to forget, but surely, surely it's possible to come

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back from I don't know, it's a single night of weakness.
I mean, Dave girls had a child, which is which
is a big thing, and he seemed to have been
running a bit of a relationship on the side, which
be a little bit harder to forget.

Speaker 28 (01:22:11):
I think some people can probably get past it, and
I've got friends who were working through it. But for
me personally, and I think at the end of the day,
there's always.

Speaker 6 (01:22:20):
Going to be one person that's never going to get
over it.

Speaker 28 (01:22:23):
And then and so I think they're just going through
the motions and doing that for reasons like children, the mortgage,
you know, but no you can't.

Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
But what about the fact that you could win every
single argument going forward. You would have the ultimate arsenal
of yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:22:40):
But you cheated on me, Rachel. Yeah, thanks, yeah, thanks
very much. We're just just on the what Rachel was
saying that? And I'll use Maeve in this scenario because
you know, obviously she's my partner right now. If she
cheated on me, yeah, clearly, I'd still stay strong. I

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think hasn't been tested, and hopefully it never is. But
I think I would stay strong and said I'm sorry.
We talked about this early on. It's over. I would
be able to forgive her, I think in time, but
we would no longer be in a relationship. And I
think that's the difference there is. Maybe in time I
could say, you know, you messed up, but I forgive you,
but we're never going to be together again.

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
But why is that an ego issue?

Speaker 8 (01:23:24):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:23:24):
I just think that level of betrayal for me personally,
that would absolutely break my heart. And I don't know
if I could ever trust her again. And if you
can't have trust.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
What would that be? What if she ripped you off
for fifty thousand dollars. Would you find your way back then?

Speaker 3 (01:23:40):
Yep, ye, you would find you that wasn't on the
list of absolute deal breakers.

Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
Well, yeah, so it's not just a dishonesty thing, then,
is it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:48):
But that might be strike one. I mean, I don't
have fifty thousand dollars for her to steal at this
point in time, but one hundred thousand dollars. Yeah, Well,
now we're talking. But again, that is a trust aspect,
and I get your point, but the romantic betrayal of
trust to me is far greater than financial portrayal of trust.

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
Well, it's interesting. There is a text throw on ninet
two nine two. Women will always say no and men
will always say yes. But you're a man and you're
saying no. There's no coming back.

Speaker 3 (01:24:18):
Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Love to get your
thoughts on this. One nine two ninety two is the
text number. It is twenty four past.

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
Three Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons. Call oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty on news Talk zby.

Speaker 3 (01:24:35):
Good Afternoon, twenty six past three.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
A bit of celebrity gossip on ZB afternoons. But we're
looking at the deeper issue issue Dave Grohl cheated on
his partner, his wife had a baby outside of marriage.
Now they're putting it behind them and moving forward together hopefully.
I wonder if the six hundred million dollars he's got
in the bank has anything.

Speaker 12 (01:24:54):
To do with it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:55):
Chris, your thoughts on can you forget and move on?

Speaker 29 (01:25:01):
Oh? Hi, yes, I think so. The thing is, I
also think that if you've got a really strong relationship,
there's got to be something wrong on both sides for
one person to stray, because if you're not getting all
your needs met and it's not strong well, or if
it was, you wouldn't be tempted. Whether it's a one

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night or whether it's a flang, or whether it's a
too you know, you've got to look at both sides.
I don't think it's always just one the partner that's
stray that's that fault. Something's missing for that to have happened.

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
I think there's something. And look, I've only ever been
a male, but I think men, by their very nature
are constantly thinking about other stuff all the time. That's
just the way men men kind of think, and that
love their partners very much, and women might be the
same and most stay faithful, I believe. But I think men,

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by their nature have a little bit of a wondering eye.
I'm not saying that's a good thing, but I think
there is something to that.

Speaker 3 (01:26:02):
Well, I think you'd be surprised. I think there'd be
a big chunk of the female population that would be similar.
Would you agree with Chris.

Speaker 29 (01:26:10):
Yeah, you can have a wondering eye, but you don't
need to do anything about it. You think he looks
something like that, have wandering eyes. You know, I'm not
a man, never was, so I can't speak for how
you guys think. But you know, if you're opening communication

(01:26:33):
and you're honest, well then you know.

Speaker 2 (01:26:37):
So Chris, You're okay with the wondering eye, just not
the wandering everything else you can.

Speaker 29 (01:26:43):
Yeah, you lie if you say I never wonder, but
when he acts on it, it's a different story or not.
You know, that comes down to the depths of your relationship,
and you are trust in your morals and your value,
so you know they all come into account.

Speaker 3 (01:26:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:26:57):
Yeah, Well, I mean that's what a commitment is, really,
isn't it. Because it's not that you're suddenly going to change,
but it's that you are going to devote your life
to a person and commit to them. Yeah, that's that's
why when someone cheats, it's it's such a drama.

Speaker 3 (01:27:10):
We're just thinking, haven't you. Yeah, well again to me
and mave situation, I think why I'm so hot on
this is more on May's side. I mean, we're both
said it's a deal breaker. But I would be heartbroken
and she knows that. But I know Mayve would be
devastated as well, and I just could not think about
doing that to her. And I imagine she feels the

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same that. You know, we've got this relationship now and
we love each other a lot. That to do that
to someone that you love is the ultimate betrayal and
there's no coming back from that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:43):
So if you should meet someone that that's that steals
your heart as you're walking past and you get to
know them, would you then break off the relationship before
you move the other one forward?

Speaker 3 (01:27:58):
You can look, but you can't touch. According to Chris,
Mike tell.

Speaker 20 (01:28:01):
You yeahs make a good damn good too. He said,
wouldn't it have the offending thing at there? That family
is so important to me? Yeah? Right, No, Sorry, I
agree with you too. It's Yeah, that's the ultimate betrayal.
You know, you have a wondering I took for looking,

(01:28:21):
but don't touch and no, well, anyone that did that,
you'd lose any sense of you just lose it, and
you couldn't. There's no trust there, there's no trust, there's
no marriage.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
Yeah, well, thank you so much for that, Greg. This
is a text on nine two nine two. Wife cheated
on me. I found out a year or so later.
It broke my heart. She was genuinely contrite. It took
some time, but we moved on and are happy. Remain
in the background and a bit of a scar, but
we are very happy now. So there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:28:52):
It is possible, very good and I take my head
off to you, dear text, and maybe you're a better
person than I am to be able to get through
that and carry on. But a good discussion, deep discussion.
One more text and then we're going to chat about
the cricket.

Speaker 2 (01:29:07):
I've got the This is a good one here from Lisa. Hey, guys,
I love the show. Thank you, Lisa. I find it
funny how we are more willing to share our bodies
than our bank accounts and a relationship but feel more
betrayed when our partners cheat on us than if they
stole from us. Have a great day, good text, Lisa.
That's what I was saying. It's a good po I
was trying to put a monetary value on Tyler's when
he thought that a monetary theft was equal to a

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romantic betrayal. I got up to it was one hundred and.

Speaker 3 (01:29:34):
One hundred and fifty. I've thought about it. I could
lose everything and it's storting to be as bad. No,
thank you very much for all your techs and phone
calls on that one. Right after the headlines, we are
going to talk about your beloved black Caps.

Speaker 16 (01:29:46):
Matt.

Speaker 2 (01:29:47):
Yeah, that is right. I mean, I hope everyone was
lucky enough to be watching it. Is this our greatest
ever cricket result? What happened with the black Caps? Is
it our greatest I'm going to go of the ford
it even further? Is was that our greatest ever sporting
result as a nation? Five million of them, I mean
five million of us. This is one point four to
four billion, and then that's two hundred and eighty eight

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times out population. It hasn't happened in ninety one years
of India playing Test cricket at home. Australia hasn't done it.
So is it our greatest cricketing achievement or is that
the winning the World Test Championship? And is it our
greatest ever sporting achievement? Or am I just high on
the supply of a recent victory because I'm saying, Sir

(01:30:28):
Edmund Hillary, I think I think this might be more
than climbing Everest Cheas. I think because it's so hard
to do winning one Test match in India with the
doctor pitchers and such amazing, winning two incredible series whitewash

(01:30:49):
three Tests in a row. No one has ever done
that before in India. I think I think it's I
think it might be our greatest sporting achievement ever.

Speaker 3 (01:30:58):
Is better than Sir ed Hillary becoming the first to
climb the highest mountain in the world. Yep, You've thrown
out some statements in the last month and a half,
but that takes the cake. Oh eight hundreds yep, oh
hundred eighty is another to call it is twenty seven
or four.

Speaker 15 (01:31:16):
US talks be headlines with blue bubble taxis it's no
trouble with a blue bubble. A thirty three year old
man accused of murdering a woman in west Auckland's Glen
Eden last night. Has appeared in White Targety District, White
Targety District Court, I should say, wearing a blue boiler
suit and been remanded in custody. Racing Minister Winston Peterson

(01:31:38):
says says taxpayer funded trip to the Melbourne Cup is
about increasing our racing industry's economic value. He says he'll
discuss racing and then trans Tasman relations with the Ossie
Foreign Minister and Victorian Governor. Diabetes and Z says Health
and Z needs to be more specific with its diabetes information,
with figures showing a rise in cases without specifying which

(01:32:02):
type patients have. A woman struck by car as she
walked her dog and live in yesterday will have surgery
today after being found seriously injured on the roadside. The
dog Apollo is still missing. US presidential candidate Donald Trump's
held his third rally of the day two days before
the elections. Georgia's speech continued as anti immigrant rhetoric, including

(01:32:25):
proposing the death penalty for migrants who kill an American,
aging and intimacy. How over fifties are redefining sex lives
in New Zealand. See the story at NSAID Herald Premium.
Back to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (01:32:40):
Thank you very much, Ray Lean. Now before the headlines,
Matt made an outrageous statement that he believed the black
Caps Test Series went over India the first time in
ninety one years. No other major cricketing side has ever
done that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:53):
Yeah, which is a whitewash of India with more than
two Test matches. We did that. I think anyone that
knows and loves loves cricket knows how incredibly hard it
is to win away from home to start with, but
how incredibly hard it is to win in India. And
no one gave New Zealand a chance before we went
in there. I didn't give us a chance.

Speaker 3 (01:33:11):
That adds to it. We love us Inderella story.

Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
And we went in there without some of the superstars
that have got us through for a number of years,
the likes of Can Williams was injured, Trent Bolt. But
that's not it. I think it's I'm going to say
it's our greatest ever cricket result, even more so than
the Test Championship, but as it our greatest ever sporting result.
If not, what was bigger and better than that? Considering

(01:33:34):
that the size of cricket is a global sport, the
size of the population of India one point four to
four billion to our five million, it's twenty eight times
our population, and they are obsessed with cricket over there.
Cricket is more to them than rugby is to us.
I've spent a bit of time in Bangalore following cricket

(01:33:56):
and it is different than you can imagine. It's a
religion over there.

Speaker 3 (01:34:02):
How would they be feeling now? Do you think this
is a national week of mourning at the moment for
India after that loss?

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
I think it would be major, major for them. And
I often think what India thinks of us, because they're
such you know, they're a huge country. In New Zealand,
which is a little country, I think we must come
across like the village in Esterix and Obelix, just like
we've got some kind of magic potion that makes us
be able to beat India, because we've beaten Indio in
a number of major tournaments over the years, and they

(01:34:31):
must look at us and go, well, how do they
do it?

Speaker 3 (01:34:33):
So if we compare that to rugby and a small
nation coming up against the All Blacks. I mean, how
could you compare it Georgia beating the All Blacks on
home ground Eden Park?

Speaker 2 (01:34:44):
Maybe not, maybe not. I'm just trying to think what
the rugby comparison someone might be to help me on
nine two nine two. What would the rugby comparison would
be Italy? It would be like Italy beating us three
knill at home, like three tests in a row at home.

Speaker 3 (01:35:00):
Yeah, and that would hurt. Yeah, it would hurt New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (01:35:02):
Yeah, that would hurt New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (01:35:03):
Now you ask the question, you think it is one
of our greatest sporting achievements of all time, if not
the great certainly in cricket the one for me genuinely yep.
America's Cup. So Peter Blake nineteen ninety five. America's Cup
is now New Zealand's Cup. I think that is right
up there worth the little country that could taking that
cup off America. So Peter Blake was an incredible New Zealander.

Speaker 2 (01:35:28):
Yeah, but as the number of people involved to United
Country one point four to four billion, one point four
to four billion people versus a little nation of five million,
we had. I don't think it's quite the same level.
It's very That's an amazing victory in the technology we
had to bring and the nation getting behind the team

(01:35:49):
to make that happen was phenomenal. But I don't know.
I mean, someone here says the All Black's going undefeated
at the World Cup a few years ago is bigger.

Speaker 10 (01:35:58):
But that was just.

Speaker 2 (01:36:00):
That was draws. I mean, it was phenomenal, but I
don't know. I waite undred Hodaki undred eighty ten eighty.
Do you think can you name what is the biggest
sporting achievement in the history of New Zealand? Then beating
India three times in a row, three tests in a row,
whitewashing India at home yep.

Speaker 3 (01:36:18):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call, is?
Matt said? Nine to ninety two is the text number.
The suggestions are coming in thick and fast. Love to
hear from you. It is nineteen minutes to four.

Speaker 1 (01:36:32):
Matt Heath Tyler Adams taking your calls on Oh, eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty Matt ethn Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (01:36:38):
Afternoons news talks, that'd be good afternoon seventeen to four
we've asked the question what is our greatest sporting moment
on the back of the Black Caps.

Speaker 2 (01:36:46):
Yeah, I missed a couple of numbers there. Two hundred
and eighty eight times our population. I think I might
have actually accidentally said twenty yeah eight, But I worked
it out. I did the math myself. So it's two
hundred and eighty eight times the population India to New Zealand.
We're five million, they're one point four four billion, so
and we've beaten them three test matches in a row.
What is the sporting achievement from a New Zealand team

(01:37:08):
or what's person that is bigger than that? Eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty is the number, Paul?

Speaker 3 (01:37:12):
What do you reckon?

Speaker 26 (01:37:15):
Will consider the West Indies in their primaries the Betton
Trees exactly. But I got one where when the ragtag
bunch of New Zealand soccer players made the World Cup
in eighty two, they traveled more kilometers than any other team,
played more games in the other team, and then had
to beat China and Singapore to get to the final,
which was basically an away game.

Speaker 3 (01:37:36):
Was that Ricky Herbert was he in that squad?

Speaker 10 (01:37:38):
Eighty two he was in the squad.

Speaker 25 (01:37:40):
It was balloon and edged with a coach.

Speaker 8 (01:37:43):
Yeah, and Winton Rufa made his name great.

Speaker 2 (01:37:45):
Mustaches in that team.

Speaker 3 (01:37:47):
Yeah hereck yeah, No, that's a great one, Paul. A
lot of people would have forgotten that one. Don How
you doing.

Speaker 19 (01:37:53):
Yeah, I think the significant says that it just adds
to the fact that New Zealand bixcels in such a
wide range of sports, more than any other country on
the planet. I would think if you look at the
fact that we win at various times world championships and
everything from snowboarding to softball to you know, crickets, rugby, skiing, surfing,

(01:38:18):
your name it, we've done it.

Speaker 2 (01:38:20):
What do you think? What do you think? Why do
you think we've done? Do you think we're so good
at sport in New Zealand, because undoubtedly it's probably between
New Zealand Australia, I would say as the best sporting
nations in the world, well just gerally.

Speaker 19 (01:38:33):
Yeah, we're blessed about a lot of European Asian countries
over with our climate uh and the fact that we're
a small nation, we're isolated and there's a genuine sort
of national psyche that where we succeed.

Speaker 2 (01:38:51):
Yeah, and just just think, in the same weekend we've
got the All Blacks beating England at Twickenham. Yeah, so
many more people play rugby in England then play here,
and we expect to beat England at Twickenham. So sometimes
we forget how incredible that All Black record is and
what a fantastic game that was, and so very close,

(01:39:12):
but we came back and how good It is just
good to see the All Blacks winning those close games again.

Speaker 3 (01:39:16):
But just over the past couple of weeks, right, and
we won the America's Cup again. I mean that feels
like a lifetime ago, but that was only two weeks ago.
A woman winning the T twenty World Cup. Fantastic, Chris,
how are you?

Speaker 8 (01:39:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:39:29):
Man?

Speaker 8 (01:39:31):
I could be wrong about that storry that could come
from a childhood memory. But we also didn't we when
we're the first country to break the four minute miles?

Speaker 3 (01:39:41):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:39:42):
John Walker was that Roger Bannister though John Walker was
the first person to run one hundred four minute miles,
and it was certainly amazing when John Walker won the
gold medal in nineteen seventy six in the mile. That's
that's that's a court an.

Speaker 8 (01:39:56):
Achievement, but I think it's the one I remember is
that it's pretty regular now but at the time, Yeah,
one of them was the first person to break four minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:40:07):
Yeah. I think it was Roger Banister, but no doubt
about it, Chris. We've had some phenomenal runners. Check was
it Love Love Growth Love Lock Love Lock Jack Lovelock? Yeah,
I mean you're right, And that goes on and on
in terms of Hamish Carter for example, where we are
a nation of very good runners long distance, and the

(01:40:28):
other thing.

Speaker 8 (01:40:28):
Is like, I don't that whether you could call it
bored and not, but I mean you got to put
mountain climbing up me.

Speaker 3 (01:40:34):
Yeah, absolutely we could at climbing mountains, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:40:38):
Hurry got quite a big one at one point. What
about Lisa Carrington her career.

Speaker 3 (01:40:44):
Yeah, they'd be right up there.

Speaker 2 (01:40:45):
So like you're talking about one event, Well, no, this
is between about three games here. But eight gold medals,
eight Olympic gold medals is quite something, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:53):
Yeah, and our most decorated Olympian of all time. Yeah,
I mean that is phenomenal. How many medals has she got?
I mean I'm throwing a big question out out here
to you.

Speaker 2 (01:41:02):
But well, she's got nine Olympic medals. Yeah, she's got
eight gold and one bronze. But I reckon Daniel Loader
winning double Olympic gold in nineteen ninety six was quite
something because winning in the pool.

Speaker 3 (01:41:14):
That is, you know, it was a big moment.

Speaker 2 (01:41:16):
That is huge in terms of competitive sports. The swimming
at the Olympics is so very competitive to so to
win two goals that that was a phenomenal achievement for
a Kiwi.

Speaker 3 (01:41:27):
And from memory, we weren't that competitive in the pool
until that point, right, Danion Loader kind of came out
of nowhere for New Zealand to claim those medals and
the world said, oh New Zealand can.

Speaker 2 (01:41:38):
Swim straight out of Moana Pool and Dunedin with the
beautiful hydroslide.

Speaker 3 (01:41:41):
Yeah, Matthew, how are you okay?

Speaker 9 (01:41:44):
Guys.

Speaker 10 (01:41:45):
Walker was the first guy to break three fifty right, oh.

Speaker 2 (01:41:49):
Right, yeah, yeah, and he did. And he was also
the first person to run one hundred four minute miles
I believe as well.

Speaker 10 (01:41:55):
Yeah. I think it was in the gardens, I think
where he broke that great here as well, the guy,
the guy just before I see that Edmund Hillary. Yeah,
the number one without a doubt. I mean you asked,
you ask people around the world, could they name who
climbed who was first to climb a mountain? They would

(01:42:16):
know who that is. You ask most people around the
world who New Zealand are spelt people.

Speaker 2 (01:42:24):
That's a good point. Also to the point that climbing
Mount Everest and siredmun Hillary is used as an example
outside of New Zealand as something incredible that that happened,
someone that did it, the first person to do that.
So that is mentioned above and beyond our country. It's
hard to beat that.

Speaker 3 (01:42:43):
You're right, and I believe he was the only person
that's been put on money while he was still alive.
You know, that was the love and admiration respect we
have we had for Sir Reed, that we put him
on money while he was still here.

Speaker 10 (01:42:56):
It's that in the moonlanding some of the biggest events.
I mean, you don't really how many people could knock
the Queen's coronation off the front face.

Speaker 2 (01:43:04):
That's a good point. Another one, what about Michael Campbell
how off Tiger Woods two thousand and five to win
the US Open.

Speaker 3 (01:43:11):
That was huge, That's huge.

Speaker 2 (01:43:12):
That's quite an achievement.

Speaker 3 (01:43:13):
Heck, yeah, I one hundred and eighty. Ten eighty is
the number to call. We'll get to more of your
phone calls very shortly. It is ten minutes to four.

Speaker 1 (01:43:22):
everything in between.

Speaker 22 (01:43:27):
Mat Heath and Tyler Adams.

Speaker 1 (01:43:28):
Afternoons you for twenty twenty four US Talk, said B,
said B.

Speaker 3 (01:43:33):
Seven minutes to four. Get a Shane.

Speaker 30 (01:43:36):
Yeah, I want to keep you on because I just
wanted to ring up about See. I I'm not a
soccer soccer guy, right, but I've played rugby and league
all my life. Never had anything I ever wanted to
watch soccer. So anyway, I'd started to hear about Port
Ten guys and I thought, oh I might watch these guys.
And I was down to say, back, kid, I've got
some pieces. Sommer mate, you want to come watch as

(01:43:57):
soccer as I wur soccer.

Speaker 7 (01:43:59):
I got home, mate.

Speaker 25 (01:44:00):
I absolutely loved it.

Speaker 30 (01:44:01):
Not only do I love watching them and the supporters,
but I loved the game.

Speaker 3 (01:44:05):
It was great, good Man. So so for New Zealand's
greatest sporting moment, what is it for you? Shane?

Speaker 30 (01:44:13):
New Zealand's greatest sporting moment. This is your family with
all one. Oh, I'll go with the soccer when the
Auckland guy kicked it out and the the FC guys
got the first goal.

Speaker 3 (01:44:27):
Uh Adam, how are you doing a good going?

Speaker 12 (01:44:31):
You're good?

Speaker 3 (01:44:32):
What's your take on it?

Speaker 31 (01:44:34):
We are over represented when it comes to moat racing.

Speaker 2 (01:44:37):
Around the world.

Speaker 31 (01:44:40):
Let's start with Bruce McLaren. Yeah, pretty pretty famous, named
after him, Pretty incredible. Scott McLoughlin, probably the most Winningst
Cindy car driver we've seen, Sabergen doing great things at
the States at the moment after winning in Australia. Yep,
Jimmy Richards, Yes, Jimmy Richards did your stuff?

Speaker 3 (01:45:05):
Shane bengins Bergen. I mean you could even say Bert
Bert Munroe too. I mean it's slightly different, but you
know as records that he achieved phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (01:45:14):
So would you say as a moment, Scott Dixon winning
the Indy five hundred and two thousand and eight would
be would be the moment you would say that would be?
That would be more impressive than the black Caps whitewashing
India in the Test series.

Speaker 7 (01:45:28):
Well, for me, I'm not a cricket fan, so.

Speaker 2 (01:45:31):
That that does make it that does make a big
difference in the way you view it.

Speaker 4 (01:45:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:45:36):
Yeah, we like to go fast, though, Adam, don't.

Speaker 7 (01:45:37):
We Bourne's another one, so we're just over motorating.

Speaker 2 (01:45:44):
Yeah, I got to say, speaking of going fast, Peter
Snell winning gold and Rome and the eight hundred meters,
then gold and Tokyo and also in sixty four and
the eight hundred and the fifteen hundred meters. Yeah, I
mean three gold medals back then for New Zealand, Peter Snow,
that was quite something.

Speaker 3 (01:45:59):
Now you've done some research into this and this was
a list done by various sports reporters in New Zealand
on our greatest moments of all time and do we
want to do the top three? According to the sports reporters.

Speaker 2 (01:46:12):
All Blacks break twenty four year Rugby World Cup drought
twenty eleven.

Speaker 3 (01:46:15):
Yeah, big moment, Michael.

Speaker 2 (01:46:16):
Campbell holds tiger Woods to win the US Open and
Daniel Loder wins double Olympic gold in two hundred meters
four hundred feet. I'll known ninety six rubbish.

Speaker 3 (01:46:26):
But for your all lists, when you're when you're in
the hospital as an eighty five year old man mate,
hopefully a bit older than that. You'll you'll tell your
grandkids remember back in twenty twenty four the black Caps
in the tests sweep. The greatest moment of all time
for New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (01:46:43):
One hundred percent. That and that guy that climbed the
mountain coup remember his name.

Speaker 3 (01:46:46):
Thank you very much for today. We'll do it all
again tomorrow. Have a great rest of your afternoon. And hey,
give him a taste of Kiwi.

Speaker 1 (01:47:02):
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