Full Show Podcast: 05 December 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hell are you great, New Zealanders? And welcome for the
Matt and Tyler Afternoons podcasts for the fifth of December
in the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty four. Huge
show today. A lot of hate for me on the
text machine with me just claiming that having Christmas parties
are a good thing. Getting steamed with your workmates is great.
And then maybe look, everyone's ragging on the public sector,

(00:37):
and sure, sure the public sector has come some problems,
and sure there needs to be cut backs there, and
there's inefficiencies, but the fact that none of them allowed
to have a Christmas party? Come on, how grinch are
we when we're nicol and diming them, making them pay
for their own Christmas party? Can we not just have
a couple of pizzas and a few bears through the
front office and you know, send them off into to

(00:59):
their break there's a little bit of smile on their face,
and then maybe they'll come back and feel more motivated
to do more work for our country next year.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Who could disagree with that? But we had a lot
of disc Remember there were some great Christmas party chat
and there's some great New Zealanders out there who throw
a fantastic work Christmas.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah, I love that chat, so I hope you enjoy
that as well. And we didn't get to a lot
of the topics that will tease at the start of
the show when you start listening to it. But I
think we did solve or potentially solve Tyler's problem with
how hot and sweaty he's getting in his second story
in Auckland. Moved up from christ Church and you can't
handle the humidity, and a lot of the great New
Zealanders now show came through with some fantastic suggestions for

(01:35):
cooling his room, including one person that said, have a
shower and only clean your back and then lie on
your fly on your back and the nude and you
should be nice and cool through the night. Anyway, Yeah,
thanks for chuning in, Subscribe and share and do all
those great things, and look, give him a taste a
Kiwi talking.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
With you all afternoon, It's Matt Heathan Taylor Adams Afternoons
New for twenty twenty four News Talk said.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Be welcome into the show. Thursday afternoon. Hope you're doing
fantastic wherever you're listening in the country. Ghetto, Matt get
a Tyler. Now I've got a problem, and it's a
problem to do with heat. And it's on the back
of the alert that the met surface has just put out.
Some's first heat alerts issued as temperatures about to heat
for thirty degrees celsius.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah, heat alerts have been issued in four locations. Well
look Gisbon, Napier, Hastings and Blenhem's thirty two degrees. Thirty degrees. Wow, warm,
it's getting warm. He's getting the hot December five. Yeah,
it's only going to get hotter as we go through
into January and February. Of course you've moved up from
christ Church to Auckland. Yes, so humidity becomes a factor.

(02:45):
You don't get a lot of thirty degree days you'll
get You'll get more thirty degree days in Canterbury than
you will in Auckland.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
It feels it up here. It was twenty four yesterday.
I walked outside and I felt the burning on my skin.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
I thought, twenty eight degrees in Auckland. Is you feel
twenty eight degrees more than you feel thirty two down south.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yeah, so I don't know what I'm going to do.
So the problem is that we've got a two story rental,
the air con slash heat pumps down stairs, and we've
genuinely taken the mattress down for the last two nights.
We're sleeping in the lounge at the moment with the dog.
It's not good for the relationship really, you know, it's
not good for a bit of a bit of me
and mayve time with the dog there just watching us.
So go for it. Yeah, yeah, well I love it. Yeah,

(03:24):
maybe the tod would love it. But the question is
how they hick do we call down the upstairs of
the rental. We can't get a heat pump in there.
Well we could, but I don't want to pay five
grands seven grand. So I looked into the idea of
this portable ear con units and it's way harder than
I thought, but quite expensive. And also if you don't

(03:46):
have the right type of windows, then there's no point
because you're just sucking in hot ear from outside. At
least you have that down pat that you've locked it
all together, so no ear can get in. So it's
a big problem.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
So you want a solution. You want to you want
to ask the good people of Newstalk ZB to call
through on eight hundred eighty ten eighty and nine two
nine two and the teach summer and help you.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah, yeah, please, And so the Texas coming through saying mate,
you just wait until December, January and February. I know
that that's why I want solutions now. But that is
after three o'clock. After two o'clock we're gonna have a
chat about Samagi Bargie when it comes to parking up
in Funngaday. So here's the situation at the Pack and Save.

(04:29):
They had a car parking policy that let anybody car
park in the car park whether they were shopping at
the supermarket or not. They figured that the car park
was big enough as long as you didn't take the
mick too much. They had complaints from their genuine customers,
so they've changed that rule that if you're not shopping
in the supermarket and the supermarket alone, then they are

(04:51):
going to sting you. Now they're being criticized by those
people who did kind of take the mick and use
the car park. But we want to chat to you
about using business car parks. Is it legitimate to if
you buy something from their business to stay in that
car park to go and do some more shopping. It
is Christmas, We're all doing it, and I'm thinking about

(05:12):
more car parks as well. When you go in there
maybe for one thing, then you spend half the day
and them all doing you know, bits and pieces, and
you come back and you got to take it on
your car.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah. Or the other thing that I do is I'll
park in the supermarket car park, then I'll go and
do off a bunch of other shopping and then I'll
do my supermarket shopping last. Do you have to do
your supermarket shopping first?

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (05:34):
And do they expect that you're only shopping in there,
so say they give you ninety minutes or whatever that
ninety minutes has to be spent in their shop.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
I don't know. I think it's a risky business for
the supermarket towing people because look, I spend a lot
of money at my supermarket and maybe I take the
mickey a little bit with parking when I'm doing other stuff.
But if they told me, I got a lot of
other options, and I spend a lot of money in
the supermarket and I could easily go and spend it
somewhere else. And I imagine if I got towed for
my supermarket car park because I was off across the

(06:06):
road doing some shopping, that'll be the last time even
went to that sid market.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Absolutely, that's going to be a good chat after two o'clock.
But right now, we do want to have a chat
about Christmas parties.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, the public sector because due to the carts, government
agencies are spending very little on their Christmas parties of anything.
Some agencies have decided not to hold an end of
year Christmas parties. Some of them are holding absolutely pathetic
Christmas parties. Some of them are making their workers pay
to go to the Christmas parties. Is that what we

(06:34):
had a problem with when it came to the public
sector and their spending. I think that was we were
angry about crazy parties when someone was leaving a going
away party, or just excessive parties. But I think everyone accepts,
at whatever workplace you're in, that you're going to have
a party. That's the bare minimum that there's a decent
knees up at the end of the year. And do

(06:55):
we really care if the Ministry of Housing and urban
development has a Christmas party with a few beers. I mean,
if they're having an elaborate Christmas party where they're paying
expensive international artists that come in and they're eating suit
off each other's naked bodies, then maybe we'd complain about it. Yeah,
but a normal keiwe Christmas party public set to go

(07:15):
for it. And I would say around the entire wider world,
including you know, the commercial world, if you run a
business and you don't have a Christmas party, are you
really a business?

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah? It would be a bit of a slap in
the face to the employees, whether you are public service
or not not having any sort of Christmas party.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
I think after a whole year working hard together that
you need to come together and put a full stop
on the end of the year and have a few drinks.
I think it's the bare minimum, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yeah. And just to your point on this is what
we talked about when we wanted them to, you know,
be a bit more careful with the taxpayer money. And
remember when the government first came into power and they
asked for cuts and then they took away the instant coffee,
the Greggs, and of course at the time, we all
said no, you give them a cup of coffee for
goodness sake and give them a Christmas party.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
That's not with the way sugges. That makes a difference
about being punitive. I think the public service can have
a Christmas party.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yeah, oh eight hundred.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
I mean I think they existed to honor the people
you work with and the work you've done. That's where
you have it. And it's a ritualistic full stop to
the year and getting together with your workmates and having
a few drinks as fun, and it creates a culture,
and it brings together and it creates stories and gossip.
It's fantastic.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Yeah, ol eight hundred eighty ten eighty is and number
to call? Are these government departments been a bit miserly
by not hosting a Christmas party? Or if they do,
it's a bit of a sad affair and they make
the employees pay.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
And supplementary issue. If you are about to attend a
Christmas party, what are your rules that you have yourself?
Because you can finish the year right and it's been
going really well, and then you can go way too
hard at your Christmas party, humiliate yourself and go into
the holidays riddle with shame. So you know, I've been
doing a whole lot of Christmas parties. I went to
one last night, actually, and I've got a whole lot

(09:04):
more to go to. And I've been successful and unsuccessful
at Christmas parties. I've woken up the next day in shame,
and I've woken up the next day full of pride
at my behavior. So how do you get through a
Christmas party with your dignity and tact?

Speaker 3 (09:18):
This is going to be good. Oh, one hundred and
eighty ten eighty, it's the number to call. It is
fourteen past one.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
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everything in between. That Ethan Tyler Adams afternoons you.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
For twenty twenty four used talks dea'd be good afternoon.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
It is sixteen past one. Christmas parties.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Okay. I've been thinking about this, and I think that
every workplace owes their workers a Christmas party. I don't
care if it's the public sector or not. If you
work all year for a company, they owe you a
couple of drinks at the end of the year. And
any business or any organization that doesn't put on a
Christmas party has no soul and is entering into a

(10:01):
phase of demise.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Yeah, it's terrible for morale, isn't it? Not even too
measily drinks Allen? How are you get Allen?

Speaker 5 (10:11):
And every company owes their work of a Christmas party?
Why should all the earnests be on the company? Uh,
my daughter's work. They contribute into a Christmas fund and
they have theirs that way, and the company chips are
on it. It's not one hundred percent that's on the company.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
That's cheaper. That's cheap of the company, cheap one.

Speaker 5 (10:35):
Of the company. It's only because you're looking on the
receiving then don't you think it's a joint situation.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Well, I run a little little company and I put
on a Christmas party. I take take everyone out for
for a lunch and I put it on. And and
I work at other companies and they put on Christmas parties.
I just think it's the it's it's the bare minimum
you can do. You've worked, you've worked together all year,
and yes, yes you want to you want to give

(11:01):
something back and say look good on you. You know,
back in the day, it used to everyone used to
get a Christmas ham.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Famously, back in the day, there used to be there
used to be bonuses, and there used to be hands.
So now we're even nickel and dining people on a
few beers.

Speaker 6 (11:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (11:16):
Well, anyway, moving on from there. Your second question a
ceiling pan. Put a ceiling fan and over the bed
and you'll have blissed overnight.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
All right, we'll talk to the landlord about that. That
is coming up after three o'clock is how do you
call your house without air com? A couple of teachs
coming through today, guys, we got David Seymour to plan
the catering at our Christmas party. He is supplying lunches
for three butts. Great value.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, I guess the bare minimum of a Christmas party
is a thing as well. I mean, how much can
a Christmas party really cost? Yeah, I mean it's a
few beers. I mean you're know, I owed people twenty
five beers and an international performing artist act just some
just some food, some pizzas and bring some beers in.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
Yeah. But as a business owner, I mean I like
what you said that it is a shout to your
employees at the end of a year to say well
done everybody. We'll go to the end of the year,
and if it's been a tough year, even more so.
To provide at least a little something for morale, but
also keep your employees happy. Isn't that what it's about?
And public service employees are kind of everybody's employees. If

(12:22):
we pay our taxes to their wages, we want them
to be able to say, yeah, job well done, have
a good summer, and come back and kick them.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
But yeah, I think it's all about the soul of
the company and how loyal people feel towards the company.
The Crown Law staff they can pay to attend their
BYO Christmas party and a statement the agency said festivities
are being held in the office, with some cost paid
for from its Social Committee's fundraiser efforts over the year.
Staff need to bring their own drinks and a small

(12:48):
entry fee covering finger food. I wouldn't go to that
Christmas but.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
BYO eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. It is bang on twenty past one.

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Speaker 2 (13:45):
ZB twenty three past one. Tell you we're looking at
the text machine. I didn't know New Zealand was such
a country of people that hate to party. They're ragging
on the idea of a party and spending time with
their coworkers.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
What's wrong with us?

Speaker 2 (13:59):
We're in New Zealand. When New Zealanders we like to
get together and have had of a beer and celebrate
our work together. Here's a text. Hey, guys, love the show,
but Matt, I must take you to task. I can't
talk as I'm heading into meetings and then need to
catch up with staff. Okay, all right. After the last
four years, my company cannot afford to put on a
Christmas party. However, I can still afford to do a
Christmas bonus for my staff, which is a question. I

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asked my staff whether they would prefer a bonus or
me to put on stuff they can drink and eat.
Guess what they said, Simon, Well, I don't know. I'm
going to guess that they took the bonus, but I
would say, look that that doesn't change anything I'm saying.
I'm saying, you know, you're you're at your business is
in a little bit of trouble at the moment, so
you can't afford it. And I get that. That's a

(14:41):
different thing I'm saying than not putting on a Christmas party.
It means that your company is in declined slately, Yeah,
I mean, I mean, and it means that you're and
a way to show that your company is really succeeding.
And working is to put on a Christmas party. So
I don't know about that. I mean whether eyes off
at a bonus or a Christmas party. I mean, the
bonus can't be big if it's equal to about six

(15:04):
beers and some pieces.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Yeah, but that's slightly different, though, isn't it. When you
go to your staff and say, hey, do you want
to we bonus for Christmas? Or do you want a
couple of easily drinks and some rough sausage rolls? What
are you going to say?

Speaker 10 (15:14):
Good?

Speaker 3 (15:14):
You're gonna say, hey, oh take the money.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Look at if you work for a company and the
person and your boss has come up to your management
comes up to you or whatever and says honestly and
in a and in a somber fashion, I'm sorry. We
would love to put on a Christmas party for you
this year. You know, we really really appreciate you. We
just can't afford it because we're in such a dire state.

(15:35):
That's a totally different, totally different position, definitely totally different position.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call, Julia. How are you this afternoon?

Speaker 10 (15:45):
Yeah? Hi, good?

Speaker 6 (15:46):
Thanks?

Speaker 3 (15:46):
Now, how do you feel about Christmas parties? Are you
getting one this year?

Speaker 11 (15:51):
I haven't had one for so many years, I can't
remember what they're like. I work in an industry where
we never go into the office.

Speaker 12 (15:58):
We're out on the road all the.

Speaker 11 (15:59):
Time, and consequently, when it comes to Christmas, we know
very well that they're having an office Christmas party, but
we're not invited. And that just leaves a really sour
taste in your mouth at the end of the year.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
That is rough. Yeah, that doesn't bode well for you know,
company morale or certainly your morale.

Speaker 11 (16:21):
Yeah, no, it really doesn't.

Speaker 13 (16:23):
It doesn't.

Speaker 11 (16:24):
I appreciate the difficulties of getting everyone together in one place,
but yeah, they company I'm working for, and now they
just make somebody for They send a Christmas card and
I think it was a twenty dollars pressy voucher. But
we're not invited to the party.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Wow, you're not invited? That that is that's shocking. That
is hurtful to actively not invite people to the party.
Everyone's got to come, but everyone's got to be invited
to the party.

Speaker 11 (16:50):
Yeah, well, we always know that they are having one.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Yeah, and they don't invite you. Dirty. No, that's dirty
high school stuff.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
That's the worst you can get, where management shout themselves
that we shut back, and the good employees like you
who are earning the money for the company and not invited.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
The fat pegs just laughing it up and giggling and
laughing at their employees. That's what that is. That is disgusting.

Speaker 11 (17:14):
I wouldn't go there.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
I'm trying to make it more dramatic than it is.

Speaker 14 (17:20):
Yeah, no it's not.

Speaker 11 (17:21):
But yeah, it is a shame.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
And what about this situation, Julia, the Christmas party at
our work that's on during our show show. Yeah, so
that's on next Friday. Well, me and Tyler ron here.
So they've purposely organized the Christmas party to not include us.

Speaker 11 (17:40):
Oh gee, I guess it's a difficult thing to please everyone.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Then, yeah, well they could have pleased us, Julia. Just
the last question for you, I mean, does that is
any part of you that looks at that and think
why am I working here? I'll just go to a
place that actually loves the party and appreciates us as
workers and shouts us a few drinks at the end
of the year.

Speaker 15 (18:01):
One of those years sixty five.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yeah, can you answer this one. I know, I know
you've got to be care here, Julia, but can you
answer whether it's private or public.

Speaker 10 (18:13):
To the company.

Speaker 11 (18:14):
Yeah, the company is a private company.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Yeah, private company measly. Yeah.

Speaker 11 (18:19):
Well I don't even know where the officers. I've never
been there.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Well, Julia, if you're in Auckland, you can come to
our Christmas party. How about that?

Speaker 16 (18:28):
Hey?

Speaker 10 (18:28):
Cool?

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yeah we can go because you can take mine titlist spots. Guys,
we'll be on here.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
We'll give you a drink drink tickets. We only get
a couple of them. Good one, thank you very much.

Speaker 6 (18:40):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
Eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to coll guys. I work for the Department of Corrections
and we don't even get a Christmas card nothing at all.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
That's low.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
That is low. Nine nine two is the text number.
And we'll go through what some of these departments are
actually offering up for the Christmas party. And it's going
to make you said. It is twenty eight past one
headlines coming up.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Listen to this horrible text from Clive. Oh, this heartless
grunch of a man. Hi, guys, than your contract if
not get over it, you don't need it. So it's
only what's in your contract. So if it's not in
your contract, then no Christmas party, no get together if
they don't specifically write what kind of employment contract? Clive

(19:23):
are you talking about? That specifically says in it and
there'll be a Christmas party.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
What happened to us?

Speaker 4 (19:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (19:28):
What's happened to us?

Speaker 3 (19:29):
As Clive Clive, get better, man, come better.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
I feel for you. I'll give you a heart if
I oversee you.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
It's twenty eight pas one.

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(20:02):
hundred meters ahead of the fire, further hampering efforts to
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(20:22):
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Speaker 3 (21:01):
Yo you bear night wine bear nne fould telling you
one bad?

Speaker 2 (21:09):
A cud of domingto town. Bad, a cud of Diamondry Town.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
Yes, center is coming to town and we're talking about
Christmas parties in the workplace. A lot of public sector
organizations are just miserly absolute scrooges.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Well yeah, not according to you, Not according to Anne
who sets it through a nine two nine too. Matt
Republic Service parties. The difference between public and private sectors
is private is funded by the owner company. Public is
funded by us, the taxpayer. I say no, not this year,
tough times. Many will have having thin Christmases and don't
need to see the civil service having jolly's on the
taxpayer problems. They get used to having all four trotters

(21:50):
in the troth under the previous government, and now they
are told not to and they're squealing that's from Ann.

Speaker 4 (21:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
I mean, look, but I don't think the difference between
the public sector agencies having a Christmas party is the
difference between anything really. I mean, do were we really
worried about that that expenditure, I mean the expenditure and look,
I think all of us agree that there was over expenditure.
And we don't like ridiculous parties when say a previous

(22:17):
manager is leaving and another one's coming in and they
spend nineteen thousand dollars on that. But Christmas parties for you,
for your workers, isn't that just the most basic thing
for for kiwi's at the end of the year. I mean,
it's traditions that have gone forever. And look, and I
get you what you're saying, but just earlier on this
morning on the Hosking Breakfast he listed off the pathetic

(22:40):
state of the public sector Christmas parties and I think
if you listen to this you'll be you might come
around a little bit more to my side.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
Oh goodness, Grace, it's not very professional.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
For my costing. Just to go dipp dip, dip, dip dip.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Mike, spit it out, mate.

Speaker 7 (22:59):
Those are the Christmas parties around the state sector. It
is such a miserable lineup. It makes you sad. Ministry
of Business as an envy, it would not be provided
adding a subsidy for an end of year function that end.
Ministry of Housing are no Christmas function at all. Customs
it's not arranging or funding anything. Crown Law staff they
can pay to attend their b yo Christmas do. The

(23:21):
agency said festivities are being held in the office, with
some costs paid for from its Social Committee fundraising efforts.
Staff need to bring their own drinks and a small
entry fee covers finger food offers for mari Crown relations
being disestablished anyway, as far as I know, they need
to pay seven dollars to attend the end of year
staff party.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Seven dollars.

Speaker 7 (23:43):
It's being held off site a charter school agency, which
is new of course planning a Christmas lunch and an
external site. Staff also have to pay for that, So
an external lunch that's nice. The new Ministry of Regulation
first Christmas do this year. Of course, staff has to
bring a plate of food. Refreshments are being provided by
the Ministry's senior leadership team, so there's some hope there.

(24:03):
Department of Prime Minister funded by individuals. Nothing barbecue for
KEII Railke doing some barbecues. Other sites are having a
morning tea. Ministry of Health. This is where it's all on.
This is the place to be Ministry of Health. That's
got the karaoke and the giant ginger. There is a
morning tea at the Wellington office. They've got five and
a half grand. That comes out at nine dollars fifteen

(24:25):
per person, so that's higher than pretty much every anywhere else.
Catered food is consistent with the Ministry of Health's National
Healthy Food and Drink Policy.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
Boring.

Speaker 7 (24:36):
The Department of Internal Affairs morning or afternoon tea at
twelve bucks ahead. The Ministry of Justice Ministry for Ethnic
Communities has budgeted fifteen dollars per person, but can't be
no booze, no booze ministry of primary industry.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
It goes on and on how low level these parties are.
I mean high level are the sound effects they have
on the Hosking Breakfast. That is, they are achieving a
high level. But Christmas parties across the public sector are pathetic.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Yeah, that is just sad, isn't it. And I don't
think that's what any most of us wanted when we
saw how much was being spent on the government departments.
There was mostly consultants, right, we know that now.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
But for the.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Employees at the bottom of these organizations, just give them
a couple of drinks and a Christmas party.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Plays absolutely this text A nine two nine two says,
I work for a city council. I don't want to
say which one, but it rhymes with Hamilton. US workers.
They work in the parks and drainage. So used to
just have beers and a barbecue at our depot and
we're happy with that. But the powers that be up
in the ivory tower in the town decided that we
should all have a big Christmas party every year and

(25:43):
took our beers and barbecue budget and added it to
the big extravagance party, which involved two free drinks, fancy
food and entertainment. They also had a hypnotist in bands.
They call it the Christmas Hullabaloo. Worst part is you
have to apply to get a ticket because there are
not enough for everyone. Most of us don't go. Yeah,
And that's the thing is, you don't have to attend
to Christmas party because so many people that don't like

(26:05):
their employees talking about they don't want to go along
and bitch and hang out with the work mates. It's
a totally different thing.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
I still think they should be a Christmas party even
if you don't go. And I think if you were,
if you're working for a company and they and you
don't go to the Christmas pudy, you still would like
to know that they've offered you a few drinks. Yeah, exactly,
that they've put something on.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yeah, Jaden, how are you?

Speaker 6 (26:26):
Hey?

Speaker 17 (26:26):
Man?

Speaker 6 (26:26):
Good?

Speaker 14 (26:26):
Thank you and yourself?

Speaker 18 (26:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (26:27):
Good.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
So you want to talk about a previous workplace and
the Christmas do that they put on?

Speaker 14 (26:33):
Yeah man, Yeah, So I just want to say, first
thing is, yeah, I reckon it should be just bare minimum.
Mays Cold chrisp Beers at Leaf. Yeah, but no, this
previous compare that I was working with, there was i'd
say two sections of it they'd thrown on that only
came to one part of the company, which I thought

(26:55):
was pretty a bit of a dog ache. So they
had thrown the Christmas party on a Thursday at about
three three o'clock when one half of the company finished
five o'clock on that and then still had to work Friday.
Oh yeah, I just wanted to get your thoughts on
that one.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Well, we experienced that in the radio industry where they
have the radio awards where everyone celebrates. So I've just
come out of fourteen years and Breakfast. So every year
they have the radio Awards run really late on a
Thursday and then and then us breakfast host. I'm in
the afternoons now, but as breakfast host, where was like,
come on, yeah, you guys are all parting up all
your afternoon you drive hosts, everyone else is up and

(27:36):
there's no one and that no one comes to work
the next morning, and there we were up at five
am doing the hard yards. I understand what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
Not good, not good, And I've got to say the
last one down in christ Church, and I love the
christ Church team. But they had a bit of a
party bus that went out to one of the smaller
towns outside of christ Church. But of course I was
working till four pm, so the message was to say, sorry,
you missed the bus at midday. You got to find
your own way out there, So how am I going
to keep my car back?

Speaker 2 (28:06):
But yeah, thanks so much for you call Jayden. Here's
a text which is an interesting point someone makes on
nine two nine two Roger. Hey, guys, is the lack
of Christmas parties completely financially driven decision? Or is it
more hr driven?

Speaker 4 (28:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (28:20):
I mean that's the thing. I mean, there are more
and more regulations around a party. And maybe I'm being
naive if I think that you could just, as a
boss go to the bottle store and buy several dozen
bears and then order some pizzas and hit them into
the office, throw some tinsel around and everyone's happy.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
Yeah, it's how I used to do it.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Maybe dress up a center and hand out a few presents.
But that's what I'd be happy for a Christmas party.
It's just more that it's just the more getting together
at the end of the year, and I know we've
had a hard year and everyone's people are saying that
some people can't afford the parties. And absolutely if a
business is on the knife edge and your boss came
up and said, look, we really can't afford it, I

(29:00):
think we'd all get it.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
But I think as one of the basics of a
company that is that you attempt at least and that
you believe in the on set that a Christmas party
is an important way to mark the end of the
year and for workers to get together and celebrate the
work they've done together.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Yeap, love to hear your thoughts on this one. I
eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty as a number
to call. Nine two nine two is the text. It
is nineteen to two.

Speaker 19 (29:23):
It's done.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
You take on talk bag matt Ethan Tyler Adams afternoons
have your say on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty news.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Talks and b seventeen to two is a Christmas party
the bear minimum of business, whether it's public or private,
pod on for their employees at the end of the year.
That is the question we're put out there.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
You know, And at the end of the brunch wears
heart grew two sizes bigger due to all the Christmas year.
I feel like my heart has been shrunk by some
of these texts. On nine two nine two. I can't
imagine anything worse. I work for a buddy. We have
to pay for a Christmas party. Why would I want
to spend my day off with a bunch of gossiping bullies?
Awful culture? Okay, this Texas says, yuck spending time with

(30:02):
your workmates. I'd rather die than go. I don't care
what they offer. That's from Maria, thanks for that beautiful
hate Christmas parties, hate parties, and hate man Heath. That's
from Steve.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Steve, Steve, Come on, mate, It's Christmas.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
How could anyone hate me at Christmas? How could anyone
hate me at Christmas? Matt, I met my husband at
our work Christmas party. Controversial hookup to be honest, Oh,
there we go. There's a whole extra story in here
that we're not getting.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
But that was the good old days, wasn't it.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
It's just to finish the test. Sorry, I'm speaking here,
you go, Matt, Please man, Matt, I met my husband
at our work Christmas party. Controversial hookup to be honest,
but it's worked out for Lee's Navi Da. So that's
actually increased the size of my heart just a little bit.
That that, Although to be fair, I don't know what
controversial hookup means.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
Yeah, just when it comes to the sanitization of the
Christmas party, that makes me a bit upset. I missed
the good old days where you could let loose a
little bit and do some things that were slightly embarrassing,
and you've got to toe that line quite carefully. And
you've written a very good piece about this man on
the dos and don'ts of Christmas parties. Yeah, that they

(31:08):
have changed dramatically, haven't they.

Speaker 6 (31:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Well, I mean I think, you know, I believe that
it's good to go to a Christmas party, but I
also believe this that that that there's there's for your
own personal well being going to the holiday holiday break.
Then there's there's some them rules that you that you
should go in And I've learned these over the years
and maybe I should share them a little bit, so
I show them in a little bit. I've got I've

(31:31):
got the four pillars of of things to tell yourself
before you go to a work Christmas party. So you
come out there not hating yourself.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
This is going to be going Craig. You love putting
on and do for your workers.

Speaker 6 (31:43):
Yeah, I do.

Speaker 12 (31:44):
I mean I'm only a real small company, well very
small now because i haven't got any workers. But the
last ten years I've ad had five or seconds guy's
work for me and I really enjoyed saying thank you
to them through the year. But because of those guys,
is it's my success, you know. But but I my

(32:05):
Christmas party is always on the business was doing. So
we've had some real good ones where we've you know,
gone to the corporate facility at the speedway or nice
fishing trips and that kind of thing, down to a
barbecue and re garage. But I think I think you're right,

(32:26):
and it's just to say thanks to your crew at
the end of the year is really really important. But
it shouldn't be expected when it's expected. I don't agree
with that.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Well, I think as a as a society it's a
nice norm to have. But also if you're if you're
putting on the Christmas party, Craig, to say thank you
to workers, I hope they come up to you and
say thank you for the party and and thank you
for what you do as well. I think I think
it should go both ways.

Speaker 12 (32:56):
I mean, there was one year I had a couple
of guys that really didn't the business and I wanted
them gone, and I was really torn, what do I do?
But I don't really want to bend a few hundred
for these couple of sticks and and so that year
I didn't have one. But for the guys that were good.

(33:18):
You know that all my guys used to get a
lamb from the freezer to get as well as a
customer too. But I just disgussed that year rather than
the party because it wouldn't have been a good party
for a couple of guys that were just not good.

Speaker 6 (33:31):
For the company.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Yeah, and hard not to invite to stoo people and
everyone else.

Speaker 6 (33:37):
Absolutely, Yeah, I think it's.

Speaker 12 (33:39):
Important whether you're do it at the end of the
year or through the year. I think it's important employers
they got a good team, says.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Yeah, I agree, and as I say, for them to
say thank you to you as well for being a
great boss, Craig, because you sound like you're a fantastic boss.
Here's a text throw on nine two nine two. Our
company is putting on a damn good shout, the Saturday
open bar, pool, darts, bowls, good food, later, massive head
of steam. Going to be a good night christious.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
Thank you that that sounds like a great time. Uh Ben,
you'll be up at two am preparing for what the
Christmas party?

Speaker 20 (34:17):
Well for Christmas party work? Ye sorry mate, make come
on through a heacon bag er off. This is more important,
you know, Yeah, work, work, work, These Christmas parties, it's
the season. I've been to some shockers, man, I've been
to one given the chicken drumstick and a wing, you know,

(34:38):
and the dusty backyard with dust all blown over in
a windy day and that was later. And I've been
to some paintball events with the helicopter rids and death
back rides and bridge swings and bungee jobs and fishing charters.
So it's but no, it's it's important. But the chemistry,
it's the chemistry, whether you're at home or whether you're
at work men. Yeah, yeah, they're challing, they're chilling and

(35:01):
putting things right. Yeah, getting on the right foot for
the next year. All that sort of carry on is important.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (35:08):
The great I guess you could say you could say,
I don't know what do you want to hear that?
Family or a work I don't know. They both, yeah,
both along the same lines.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Yeah, well, thank you so much for you call.

Speaker 21 (35:18):
Ben.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
Yeah absolutely, Oh eight one hundred and eighty, ten eighty
is the number to call. Nine to nine to two.
And we're going to get to your four pillars very soon.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Yeah, here's a text on two no two. I get
a pile of smoke meats brought down to our yard
and supply my own alcohol and there's no issues. I
supplied taxis for those who want to drink.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Good boss.

Speaker 18 (35:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Actually, like my heart is increasing in size with the
amount of bosses that are coming through and saying that
they put on what they can for their work people.
And yeah, as I say, I get it. If you
can't do it at all, then then then understand. But
I think it should be the norm that should be
celebrated and we should be as a country. We should go.
Christmas parties is a thing and the best case scenario

(35:58):
that we put on and we put on the best
parties we can to come together and celebrate the year
we've had together.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
Beautifully said, it is ten to two.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Maybe are Adams taking your calls on eight hundred and
eighty and Tyler Adams afternoons News DOGSB.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
News Dogs B. It is eight to two. We're talking
about the work Christmas party just.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
On a cider show. I've got a text through on
nineteen nine two saying it's forty degrees in Hawks Bay
right now. Someone's got that on their personal on their
personal thermometera thermompa ther thermometer.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
Forty degrees though, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
I'm going to look at it. It's officially thirty degrees
there there right now, but you know different areas someone's
at forty, so.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Boy oh boy out there. Yeah, Michelle, you work in
an MP's office, Is that right?

Speaker 22 (36:48):
I used to and you guys really push my button
for that topic. It were a tauma like you would
not believe. When you work for an MP in their office,
you're actually employed by Parliamentary Services and every year Parliamentary
Services gives you a sirty dollar bonus and so you

(37:09):
can spend it on anything you like except alcohol, and
you take your receipts and you get reimbursed by Parliamentary Services.
All this Christmas, the MP decided for our Christmas party
or lunch, that we were going to the cafe next door,
and that we were using our.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Thirty dollars to pay for it, whether you liked it
or not.

Speaker 23 (37:29):
Yep, pretty much.

Speaker 8 (37:31):
Wow.

Speaker 22 (37:31):
And let me tell you, if he's been half a
decent human being, he would have known that that was
taking food off my table, you know.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, I would say, how many
how many employees you know, directly for Okay, well the
MP can pay for that, Yeah, the MP.

Speaker 21 (37:50):
I don't know.

Speaker 10 (37:52):
He would not.

Speaker 22 (37:53):
He did very quite kindly pay for one grasp of wine.
We weren't allowed to spend the thirty dollars on alcohol.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
What did that MP get re elected in the next election?

Speaker 7 (38:03):
Ah?

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Yes, he's still there, still there. So I'm sure. I mean,
I would it if you gave a name, but I'm
sure you can't.

Speaker 10 (38:10):
Michelle, I'll give you the name.

Speaker 6 (38:12):
If you wanted.

Speaker 10 (38:12):
I wouldn't bother me.

Speaker 22 (38:13):
I'm not in the same island just him anymore.

Speaker 10 (38:15):
So forward with me.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Okay.

Speaker 22 (38:17):
It was Stewart Smith and.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Glenham's right Okay, Stewett Smith and heart of Wine country.
So I'm glad he shouted one glass.

Speaker 22 (38:25):
Of wine, well, one glass of wine. You know, he
could have afford to have paid for that lunch. He's
no doubt about that. The wird thing was the senior
guy in the office at the time who kicked up
the most fussed about it it, you know, didn't have
the balls to say anything. I never said a word,
said I was the one that could have used steady bucks.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
You know how long ago was this Michelle Ah.

Speaker 22 (38:46):
Twenty nineteen, twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
All right, yeah, because just because my understanding and look,
this might just be romanticizing or or hyper hyperpola that
I've heard, but I thought that in MP's offices and
in Parliament and generally there was a real knees up
back in the day that people used to party pretty hard.
You'd be able to go to the back and and
actually there was the bar, wasn't there?

Speaker 6 (39:10):
It was it?

Speaker 2 (39:10):
What was the bar?

Speaker 13 (39:11):
Call?

Speaker 5 (39:11):
Oh?

Speaker 22 (39:11):
No, all this is an office and Blenham look, and
I'm sure and the and Wellington they were certainly lots
and lots of these up but.

Speaker 23 (39:23):
Now not not in that.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
Yeah, well, hopefully he's got a bit more generous as
time has gone on.

Speaker 22 (39:32):
Michelle, Oh gosh, like that don't change.

Speaker 10 (39:38):
Shell.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Thank you very much, Thank you so much to be
called Michelle.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
Yeah, A quick A couple of texts to the news. Yodo, guys,
my army, I don't read that way my old bars spent.
I've got to read some of it now. My old
boss spent around ten thousand dollars on As we read
the text.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
The text is my boss spent around ten thousand dollars
on cocaine and MDMA for a Christmas party and had
one of his mate walk around offering everyone lines. He
didn't even come. He matched with some blond and candidate
flew over to meet her. They got engaged. Strange couple.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
But yeah, I bet, I bet that's hell of a
Christmas party.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
That's not what I'm talking about. No, No, that's not
the kind of Christmas party I'm encouraging.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
Oh one eighty and after the news, Matt, you're going
to give the four pillars of the dos and don't
sat the Christmas party.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Yeah I am.

Speaker 21 (40:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
I've constructed a list of things that you can tell
yourself before you go to Christmas party, so you'll have
a great time, but you'll come out on top.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
Looking forward to that new sport and weather on its way.
You're listening to matt and Tyler Good Afternoon.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Your new home for instateful and entertaining talk. It's Mattie
and Tyler Adams Afternoons on.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
News Talk zebby yeaed Ay. You welcome back into the
show six past two. Having a great conversation about Christmas parties.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Yeah, yeah, there seems to be a movement against Christmas parties.
There's hr headwinds and there's just a general moving away
from the celebration at the end of the year. It
seems too hard, it's too expensive, and that has been
represented in some of our government agencies and not doing
Christmas parties at all, or doing pathetic Christmas parties, Weak said,

(41:17):
and I don't like that movement. And I want to
pump as much enthusiasm as I can into the country
around Christmas parties. I think it's a great thing to do.
I think if you can, you should put them on.
And here's a text that came through that said, you
guys need to get your head out of the gutter.
I don't understand how you could say the company should

(41:37):
shout when the minimum wage is going out to these
things employees sickly breathement blah blah blah, Christmas pay for transport.
Then he goes wrong with these employees because it shut
up and buy some beers and pizza.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Yeah, where's the freaking love, man? I mean, it is
just Scrooge, isn't it. Can I put another piece of
coal on the fire? No times are tough. I mean,
come on, what happened to New Zealand?

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Yeah, I mean, look, if your company can absolutely not
afford it, I get it. But I think the general
gist should be towards Christmas parties. And you know, as
I was saying before, you know, it's it's they exist
for for reasons. They're like their traditions and their rituals
that go back a very long time. They exist to
honor the people we work with and the work we've

(42:21):
done together, as there are a ritualistic full stop at
the end of the year where you go the year
is over, and because dressing up and having a few
drinks with your work mates is very fun. And as
I was saying before, also there's so many texts coming
through nine two of people that hate their workmates and
don't want to spend any time with them and hate
Christmas parties. Come on, yeah, come on again. You've got

(42:44):
to find a way to love your workmates and love
spending time with them. Otherwise, what is life if you
just go through going I hate my work mates and
I don't want anything to do.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
With them, exactly. I can't understand if you hate them
so much. Just find another job that we're a Christmas
buddy that you will love immediately.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Nine two ninety two, Tyler, how dare you? How can
you say find another job in this climate?

Speaker 24 (43:01):
Well?

Speaker 3 (43:02):
You know now we also talked about the four pillars
of the dos and don'ts of the Christmas part.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
Yeah, well I just had some rules. I wrote this
article this week actually, and you can read it at
Matt Heath dot substack dot com if you want to.
But I'm basically going to give you the gist of it.
I think that the four pillars of getting through a
Christmas party because the worst thing you do, as much
as I love Christmas parties, is you can have a
great year. You can have you know, February to November,

(43:30):
you keep the respect of your workmates, and then you
can go to a Christmas party get absolutely steamed to
make a fool of yourself and go into the holiday
break riddle with humiliation and ruin your holidays. Yes, so
I believe you should attend the Christmas party if you can.
You should love the time with your workmates, but you
should go in with a few rules in your head
so you don't you don't ruin your reputation. And the

(43:51):
pillars I came up with were non leadership, honesty, decent chat,
and not being a complete punishment.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
Great pillars.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
So non leadership is you don't want to be on
the table as people arrive. How if you do want
to be on the d floor at some point, so
time you run. You know what, there's all those people
that push the boat out early and they have pre drinks,
they take the charge. Those people will be what everyone's
talking about across the la. So you want to bide

(44:17):
your time. You want to look around and see where
everyone's at. Stay in the middle of the palaton. Then
when fifty percent of the party is out of control,
maybe pick up the pace, but stay in the middle
of the pack. Just always. You don't want to be
the one out in the front. This is well through,
well thought, through honesty. What we've got to remember across
life is booze makes us lie, yes, And maybe it's

(44:38):
the lower dimmibitions. I don't know. Maybe it's the status
gains you get by lying. Whatever it is. Lying in
the workplace is humiliating and dangerous, especially if you start
talking about your contract, lying about your contract, pretending to
be flashy than you are. That's a terrible idea. So
going into a Christmas party or any party or anything
really is don't tell lies, very lies, no honesty yep.

(45:02):
And so decent chat. Yes, you don't want to be
pressing your boss up against the wall and telling him
how to run his company deep into the day and
you know what, you're walking around bitching about your other workmates. Yeah,
so I think I think you have to go and say,
you know, I'm gonna have some decent chat and you
need to you know, you don't want to be slagging

(45:25):
people off the whole time and terrible shop chat as well.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
That's a massive danger, isn't it. When the booze starts
flowing and there's some resentment that's been building up, the
Christmas party is not just going for this.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
Yeah, just tell yourself, let's not have a resentful Christmas party.
You don't want to be putting your boss into the
corner with your half last drunken views on how the
company should be run and repeating the same joke over
and ever, going to other people's faces. So yeah, and
you know, when it comes to not being a complete
punish it every now and then ask yourself, am I
punishing people here? Regularly going I'm being a massive punishing here?

Speaker 4 (45:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (45:56):
And if you regularly ask yourself that and if the
answer is yes, then maybe shut up and move on.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
I've done that many at a many Christmas week party.
Is I know that my chat is absolutely punished and
you're right, And then I'm sort of thinking here because
everybody's bored or the roll in their eyes, and think
I'm just going to leave and go join a different
group or perhaps maybe it's time to go home.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Yeah, So those are the basics ones. Those work for me.
So non non leadership, honesty, decent chat and not being
a complete punisher. And if you come out with that,
then you can you'll have a good time. You can
go into your Chrismas break feeling good about yourself.

Speaker 6 (46:31):
Love it.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
And that's what we're going to open up as well
as the Christmas party chat about the public service set
to being miserly. What are the dos and don'ts when
it comes to your Christmas party, John, you're a long
time public servant and you've never had a Christmas party.

Speaker 4 (46:46):
Yeah. Look, I don't feel bad about that, trust of all.
I think you've just given some great advice about what
to do and what not to do when you're a
Christmas party.

Speaker 20 (46:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:54):
But I worked in the public service for twenty seven
years and we would organize a modest little lunch a
restaurant like the James Cook and something. I didn't have
a really good time, but we didn't expect they out
a paper. I think over the last few years there's
been just too much of the expectation that everything that's

(47:16):
done in the social line should be paidful by the
tax and I just don't see it. Don't agree at all.
People just need to toughen up and accept that at
these times the text player shouldn't be paying for for
a we party. If you can't be bothered paying for
it yourself, you don't really want to be there.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Yeah, I mean, I agree generally, and there have been
some ridiculous expenses that we've seen over the years, and
celebrations that have been well publicized. But I think just
in a department, we're not talking about much here. We're
talking about a few beers and a pizza and people
coming together. And just because you're in the public service
doesn't mean that you shouldn't be having a celebration at

(47:57):
the end of the year. I mean, you know, I
know a lot of them aren't working as hard as
we want, but some of them are. Some of them
do work reasonably hard, and I don't think in the
end of the expenses at the tech that a little
Christmas party at the end of the year is going
to be. Is the big difference in in the inefficiencies
and the waste of cash that that that that we
hear about.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
John, Well, come come January there will be a whole
string of official information at requests asking for detail of
how much we've spent by every one of them, and
new fellas will be on the other side.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
You're so right, John, that's the big irony of being
in the media. So we're at both ends of it.
So if there is an establishment, if there was a
big Christmas party, we'd be the first people going disgusting.
Thanks to call John, he loved the Four Pillars quick text.

Speaker 25 (48:51):
Here.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
My wife works in Auckland University as a team leader,
and she asked if she could take five of the
people she looks after out for morning tea for Christmas,
and she was told no, it's not on the budget.
So she dipped into her own pocket and shouted them,
one hundred and fifty bucks is what it costs. That
is crap, I reckon, see. That is a good manager.
The fact that they took it on themselves to look

(49:12):
after their team members, five people, that's what it's about.
You know, when it comes to management. If you are
a manager in the public service and you've got five, six,
seven people under you and say, hey, there's no money
in the budget here, but I'm going to shot you
because you're good workers and you've done right for this organization.
But they should start at the top, shouldn't it.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Look I agree, And that's what's going to happen on
this show here, because I'm your boss, Tyler on the
show Tyler Show. You're shouting me, well, I'll probably get
you a coffee because the Christmas party, as we're saying before,
at our work, is happening while our show is on
everyone else is going out for a Christmas party while
we're on here.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
Yeah, okay, so.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
When that happens, as your boss will shout you gone
in a coffee? Can I give some milk in that coffee?

Speaker 3 (49:54):
It's tough time. Sixteen parts too.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
You're a new home of Afternoon Talk and Ethen Taylor
Adams Afternoon Call. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty News
Talk said, be.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
So eighteen past two. We're talking about Christmas parties in
New Zealand. It seems a tradition that has been lost,
particularly in the public sector. Miserly.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
Yeah. Absolutely, the Christmas parties are terrible in the public sector.
And there's not a lot of sympathy for the public sector.
It's the sector public. There's no sympthy for the No,
you don't want to be a public I got no
people set, there's got no. There's not a lot of
sympathy for the public sector. On the text machine, they're saying,
you know, our country's broke, cut back, don't give them anything.

(50:38):
But I think there's some good people in the public
sector that work very, very hard and obviously there's some
fat there and that's been looked at. But come on,
a few beers in a pizza at the end of
the year.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
Yep, exactly, Caroline. You're always up for a good party
for staff.

Speaker 24 (50:52):
Oh, how are you going?

Speaker 3 (50:54):
We're good good.

Speaker 24 (50:56):
We're a private company. We've got thirty staff and we
do a midwinter Christmas party as well as a interview
Christmas party. Nice and the interview Chrystals party is partners included,
and we pay for everything.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Wow, partners included. I don't think I've ever been at
a workplace that's partners included that really blows out the expenses.

Speaker 24 (51:15):
It doesn't the stuff of great. They do a good job,
so we appreciate them, so we think it's worth it doing.
And we also want of those companies that we offer
them ham or hamper for Christmas as well.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Wow. See, that was that was sort of a given
back in the day, wasn't it. I Mean, I've never
received a ham at any place I work, but that
was that was kind of a given, wasn't it. You'd
get a ham at the end of the year.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
I got a few hairs. Have you got a few
hands at that time from this company? Where was your ham?

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Did you get a hand from this company? Yeah? All right?
If anyone wants to give me a hand. I'm a
big I'm a big fan of a mutton Ham. So Carolin,
how does your midwhere midwinter Christmas party and your end
of year Christmas party differ?

Speaker 24 (51:57):
Just the partner's Christmas, end of year Christmas and no
partners mid winter?

Speaker 2 (52:02):
All right, so that the catering's not different. You're not
putting on a massive midwinter feast.

Speaker 24 (52:07):
Oh yeah, we do. We often to like this one
of the Christmas I's gone two weeks ago. We went
to Soldiers Out the one to stay at hunion.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
N Ye lovely.

Speaker 24 (52:16):
So we always have the valiqette type food for our guys.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
And just in terms of you know, I love the
fact that you do that for your workers, and you
mentioned there that it's worth celebrating them doing good work
and for you as a business as part of that retention.
You know, you've got employees there hopefully are loyal to
the business, the good workers, and you see that coming
through by the fact that they stay with you for
some time.

Speaker 24 (52:40):
Yeah, we've got probably concluding myself, but to own parts
of the business, we've got that probably six people have
been there for twenty twenty five years and a lot
more of ten twelve years. We're a medical center, so
we obviously are occurring profession so and it's been tough, yeah,

(53:01):
GP clinics, So yeah, we like to treat them and
they appreciate it as well.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Yeah, And I get what some people are saying that
you know that they can't afford to put on the
Christmas party and like people are doing it tough out there,
But I guess I would just want to want to
promote it as a positive thing, that Christmas party is
a good thing, and that we want to keep them
going in our country and we want them to do
a tradition that continues against the HR headwinds and against

(53:28):
the economic headwinds, and that if you do put on
a Christmas party like you do, Caroline, and I'm sure
that you are grateful that you're able to do that
twice a year. But if you do that, then I
think the soul of your company is in a better
condition than if you don't.

Speaker 24 (53:44):
Oh absolutely. I mean we're a family orientated GT center,
quite a larger and talk so.

Speaker 10 (53:50):
We've always had that.

Speaker 24 (53:53):
Mentor I guess to sort of do well with the
staff and we retain them, Like you said, before, so
it works well for other we can afford it.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
So got on you, Caroline, Yeah, thank you very mrve
Hey guys, this Texas says Matt's rules are very good advice.
But can I add if you do any of them,
forgive yourself, for most other people won't judge you as
hard as you do yourself. We've all done those things before. Yeah,
that's one hundred percent true. You've got it. You've got
to remember. And there's a concept called the spotlight in psychology,
and you think about yourself much more than anyone else does. Yeah,

(54:23):
So if you wake up the next morning and you've
been to the Christmas party and you concerned that you
might have made a dick of yourself, there's a good
chance and no one else is thinking about it as
much as you.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
Are, Thank God for that's one hundred eighty ten eighty
is the number to call. Or so if you're about
to go to a Christmas party or you're a boss
about to put one on love to hear from you,
what are you doing. We're getting a lot of techs
through about some fantastic at Christmas parties, jet Skis barbecues
for the employees' families, So if you put in on
a wizy do Christmas party, love to hear from you.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
And I know we'll get all the texts saying yeah,
but we can't do that, and that's nice for some
But just because some people can't doesn't mean other people shouldn't,
you know what I mean? Yeah, you can't if you
live in life and just go you're so furious that
other people having a Christmas party and you just want
to abuse me for being pro Christals party because you're
not having one, then I think that there's a name
for you, and it's the Grinch. So Christmas parties are

(55:14):
an investment. I agree. One hundred cents is aaron.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
Yeah, absolutely, Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is
the number to call. It is twenty three plus two.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
And someone said before that in Napier it was forty degrees.
The met Service is now saying it's thirty three point
five thirty three prop No, I don't think it was
ever forty degrees.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
Oh right, okay, they were making that up. That's well.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
I mean they said it was on their personal thermometers.
Who knows, they might have been sitting in front of
a heater. But thirty three point five is still pretty warm,
certainly very warm. It's not forty, but it's thirty three
point five, that's what that's Well, we.

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Speaker 1 (56:49):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty on News Talk zby.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
It's twenty seven past two Christmas parties.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
Yeah, between Christmas parties. There's also a little controversy around
the heat in hawks Bay currently thirty three point five,
But that's in the shades. Is this textile march much
hotter in the look? Can we just all agree it's
very very hot in Hawkspak.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
Yeah, the heat controversy. We'll get to the bottom of
that as the show goes on. Plenty of great techs
coming through, and we also ask the question, if you're
having a good Christmas party this year, you're looking forward
to it, we do want to hear from you. And
as you mentioned before, Matt, yes, there are businesses doing
it tough. And if you can't hold a Christmas party
this year, I'm sure your employees understand that.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
But for those that those that can, yeah, and it
doesn't mean just because you can't have a Christmas party,
we shouldn't hold it up as something that we aspire
to have in workplaces across countries, at the country, and
a tradition that we should should keep up as much
as we can.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
Absolutely, John, how are you this afternoon?

Speaker 21 (57:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (57:46):
Good?

Speaker 19 (57:47):
Thanks, I have a could throw which is one of
my voices.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
Sounds sexy. Your thoughts on Christmas parties.

Speaker 19 (57:57):
John, Yeah, I just I agree. I think companies should
still go on Christmas parties, and I think they can
afford too. I mean, when you look at they don't
actually cost that much to get a couple of a
couple of pears and a barbecue, you know, and you
can get a text right off under an employment and things.
But I think the reason under entertainment. Sorry, but I

(58:20):
think the reason a lot of companies are having minimum
Bible products Christmas parties or not having them as just
as they'll be discussing the optics out there senior leadership
meetings that they'll be going. We've had to ask people work,
had to make redundancies or ask people to take in
voluntary pay cup. So if we kind of go out

(58:43):
on a yacht to why heck or something, yeah, people
are going to be going, you know, asking questions or thinking, yeah,
this is still raking in the cash.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Yeah, yeah, but I mean a shape. Yeah, but a
fifty bag of cheap sauce. You can you can probably
address that and say, look, it hasn't been it's been
a tough year and sadly we've had to lose some
pe people said the Christmas Party is going to be
a bit stripped back this year, but with the intention
in the future as things go better than the Christmas
parties are going to be better. But it's an institution

(59:17):
as this that this company wants to wants to hold
on to. But also I think john that as someone
was saying before, in fact about a thousand texts that
have said that the media people like me and Tyler
are to blame because we're the first people that would
be laying on the optics of an extravagant Christmas party
for content, and so maybe we should make a a

(59:38):
commitment not to not to lay into extravagant Christmas parties.

Speaker 19 (59:44):
Well, Christmas party is kind of like the price of cheese,
you know. The price of cheese was seen as a
benchmark of how good or poorly the economy is doing
in a way, and how that the people's experience of
the cost of living, and Christmas Party You know, there's
a saying in pr or behavior is communication, and the
extravagance of a community of a Christmas party kind of

(01:00:06):
communicates to the employee. Is how optimistic all the kind
of the mood of the company.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
Yeah, have you got our Christmas party?

Speaker 10 (01:00:17):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
No, good thoughts? Have you got a Christmas party this year?

Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
John?

Speaker 19 (01:00:21):
Well, I'm a sole trader, so I've been having a
month long Christmas party?

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:00:33):
Myself.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
Yeah, Yeah, there's there's some power in that. You keep
the cold. You're sounding good, John.

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
Yeah, thanks mate. Eight ten eighty is the number to
call some great tics here. Oh, they're still coming through
about the temperature and the hawks.

Speaker 10 (01:00:49):
Bay.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
We will get to the bottom of that this one. Oh,
come on, guys, Christmas parties are a text right off.
So at the end of the day, a company can
get some money back. Party on, I say, Graham, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
I'm on your side, Graham, on you Graham, And yeah,
I mean the envy that's coming through and the anger
that some people having Christmas parties or not, and the
optics and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, it's Christmas.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
Have a party, come on exactly, and we're not going
to the Christmas party. So we're in this boats. Yeah,
but we can accept that the rest of the employees
here at News Talks that Be are going to have
a massive time.

Speaker 6 (01:01:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
And as I said, I'll get your scone on a
coffee and we'll sit there and offer a cracker off
on your fat.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
It is twenty eight to three oh one hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to coo.

Speaker 17 (01:01:32):
Jus Talks at the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's
no trouble with a blue bubble. People living in Castle
Hill Village have been worn to prepare to evacuate as
gusty winds fan and out of control one hundred and
forty hectair blaze in the Southern Alps near Lake Pearson.
Spotfires are starting up to one hundred meters ahead of

(01:01:52):
the fire. Associate Education Minister David Seymour has confirmed five
more charter schools will open from next year, as well
as one announced last week. Two schools are in christ Church,
three in Auckland and one in Kaitaire. A charge is
on its way to some more. It's a fifteen hundred
nautical mile voyage to help clear pollutants from sunken naval

(01:02:15):
vessel MANAWANUI STATSNZ data shows construction activity fell three point
two percent in the September quarter and residential building work
was at its lowest in four years. Meanwhile, sheet production
for the year to June was down three percent. Beef
production was unchanged. Why the high income dismissal reform is

(01:02:37):
a win for workers in productivity. You can see the
full column at ENZD Herald Premium. Now back to Matt
Eath and Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
Thank you Raylean. It is twenty five to three.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
We're tween Christmas parties, says a text on nineteen nine
two from Cragam and the police have been for thirty
two years. What's a Christmas party? Yeah, the cops are
out dealing with the repercussions of our Christmas parties out there.
This is an interesting a text here. You guys need
to talk about self employed Christmas parties. Get a group
of freelancers and ignore all your four pillars, no judgment
and no shame. We need to celebrate too. Maybe that's

(01:03:08):
an hour that can be put together like freelancers Christmas,
where everyone into and then they come together as a
Christmas party, leave work on their own, get together rip
it up, no hr, abandon all hope all year, heal
inter here kind of situation. Afternoons, lads shout out to
Rolison New World staff for doing Saucys on the barbecue,
Christmas cake, cheese, crackers, no alcoholic drinks for shoppers today.

(01:03:30):
Good on them and dressed in Christmas A tiger on you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
Yeah go Rollie, Paul, you're a napier. And do you
want to talk about Christmas parties or the heat?

Speaker 6 (01:03:40):
Well, the heat and Christmas parties. But I have just
traveled from from the layovernight. I was in Reural Cackle
yesterday afternoon and it was really hot up there, yep,
And I thought, man, this was harsh. And I traveled
down overnight, parked of a care a pair. I slept
there the nightning got down here this afternoon, I hopped
out of my car on Hawk's Bay after not being
here for two years.

Speaker 25 (01:04:00):
Mon.

Speaker 6 (01:04:00):
It was like walking into the wall of humidity and heat.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Man, are you anywhere in there?

Speaker 20 (01:04:06):
Am about it?

Speaker 6 (01:04:08):
There's notice it's not being in a different country, man.

Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:04:12):
Once you got over the tower, pro broke the hills
into hawks By manchi just changed. Well, it is hot,
windy and I left him after cycling Gabriel and I'm
telling you what made it's starting to get your nervous again.
But yeah, there's a big difference here. It's saying thirty
two where I'm sitting, but different parts. You know, it

(01:04:33):
will be thirty sept one with men and whoever said Ford,
he probably was at some points.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Yeah, and some were there, you know, but yeah, sitting
in the.

Speaker 6 (01:04:45):
Yeah, like windows up, mate, and when the base windows
down ecor.

Speaker 26 (01:04:54):
Yeah, being being in a subcontractor you know, just contracting
out the different people you do work for them York
and to other companies. Knew it when it comes to me, mate,
We're getting bordered to so many and that gets hard.

Speaker 6 (01:05:07):
And that's the best way to pick and choose who's
got the feed? Who's it? You know, I'm not bringing
seven bucks to pay for it. A lot we get
so many invitations. Yeah, they're looking.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
They're looking to I guess you're in a different circumstance though.
They're looking to wine and dine you, aren't they They're
they're looking to say thank you for for for what
you've done for them across the year.

Speaker 6 (01:05:31):
I think it's that too. But the other thing too,
is that the relationships you build with the guys you
work with, And it is hard because I'd like to
be with them and you're all invited, but it shows
how it's changed with you. But too because there's a
lot of guys out there who work like us who
don't have a Christmas function. Well, we kind of do,

(01:05:51):
but I'm not going to talk about.

Speaker 13 (01:05:52):
That on it.

Speaker 6 (01:05:54):
But you know, it's neat that other people recognize that
and want to include us.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
Yeah, and that's the part. Yeah, yeah, as a subby
who lets loose the most parts. That's the plumber, isn't it.

Speaker 6 (01:06:07):
Chappe's mate.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you you stay cool. Yeah, Hey,
Matt and Tyler, you guys obviously don't work in a factory.
I mean that is obviously we don't work at a
factory because we're clearly working on a radio station. You
posh media boys in his in his workplace, rival gang members,

(01:06:32):
drunken guys with criminal records, fights, drunk driving. What kind
of company would want to be part of that? Yeah,
I mean there's deffinitely, there's definitely Christmas parties to get
out of hand. That's high risk, that's high rest.

Speaker 23 (01:06:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Yeah, But then again, I don't know. Have you been
to a media Christmas party? I don't they get pretty.

Speaker 3 (01:06:53):
Steve, What do you do for your Christmas party?

Speaker 6 (01:06:56):
We have two.

Speaker 27 (01:06:58):
We have one on break up Day, which is the
last working down of the year, where we work half
a day and then we go back for a barbecue.

Speaker 4 (01:07:06):
All the staff go back nice.

Speaker 27 (01:07:08):
And we get a We get given a pressy card
which is very nice with very very generous company. All
sorts on the barbie, everything you can imagine on the barbie.

Speaker 20 (01:07:18):
And then there's a few beers for those who want
to drink and whatever.

Speaker 27 (01:07:22):
And but we also have a function and of your
function where wives and girlfriends and what have you are
and invited. It's all inclusive plus entertainment. We've been to
places like boom Rock and pen Carrow Lodge and what
have you.

Speaker 4 (01:07:39):
We're a party of about eighty and they're just the
most generous.

Speaker 27 (01:07:47):
And people that you can have a work for a
family owned company of course, but just an open door policy.
Nothing's too much trouble for them. And it's just the
same every year on wal plus retirement. But I stay
with them because they're are just like a family, part
of my family.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Yeah, Yeah, that's kind of what I was talking about before.
The soul of a soul of a company, you know,
and Christmas parties are a way of saying that you
really care about your your your the people that you
work with.

Speaker 21 (01:08:16):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
Now, Steve, when you say open door policy, does that
mean partners are invited to the parties as well?

Speaker 17 (01:08:23):
Uh?

Speaker 27 (01:08:24):
Yeah, that the open open door policy means that.

Speaker 28 (01:08:27):
To me.

Speaker 27 (01:08:28):
It's like if I've got a problem at work or whatever,
you just you can just buy on the off the store.
But we we have watch and girlfriends at the at
the social function, the Christmas social function. And then on
the last day when we wake up, they pay us
for half a day, like we work for half a day.

Speaker 4 (01:08:45):
They pass the rest as.

Speaker 27 (01:08:46):
Long as you turn up and massive, massive barbecue. Everybody
stands around and chats about the year and chats about
where the again on holiday is one heavy? And then
about have do you're on your bike?

Speaker 6 (01:08:57):
And and off for the break.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
Blood lovely and what what industry is that? And Steve,
if you don't mind me asking, h.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
VAC and Wellington people are good on them.

Speaker 6 (01:09:07):
Yeah, reads me.

Speaker 27 (01:09:09):
Big player, but you know, privately owned company, not a
big corporal or anything like that. But me and some
of these big corporates could learn off our guys.

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
Yeah, they sound like great New Zealanders. Thank you very much, Steve.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
There's a text here in ninet two nine two that's
not not happy with you, Tyler. How many staff are
you two hosting for your Christmas party? Maybe you should
donate that money to the City Mission instead of having
your party's you could do that. You donate money to
the City Mission instead of doing anything.

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
That coffee that you're going to buy me for our
Christmas party, will donate that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
Yeah, instead of buying some shoes, you could donate it
to the City Mission. I think we can do charity
and also have fun in our lives as well. I
don't think it's a it's a binary thing. Either have
a Christmas party or give it to the City Mission.
Or anytime you're looking at having fun, just take that
down to the City Mission. Anytime you're looking at going
to the movies, not give that to the City Mission.
I mean, he's got to be there's got to be

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some joy and not just pure charity in your life.

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
Where's the love today? There is vertical. We'll get to
a quick break and more of your calls. It is
seventeen to three.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons you
for twenty twenty four US Talk said, be it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
Is a quarter to three. We're talking about Christmas parties, Liz,
your want to time today? You want to check From
a business owner's point.

Speaker 25 (01:10:29):
Of view, yeah, I had a small business hospitality and
I always pay you know who went out. I paid
all the grants and all the meals or I put
it on at home and they really you know, hush,
you know, yeah, And then things got tish and I
said this one year. Look, I can only afford to

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the fifteen. So if you don't mind, I'd like you
to again and.

Speaker 5 (01:10:54):
I'll do the strength or all the suits.

Speaker 25 (01:10:57):
You know, you've had our usual restaurant.

Speaker 10 (01:10:59):
Yep.

Speaker 25 (01:11:00):
And some of my stuff got really nicety. It's like,
you can't do that. You have to pay, and I
still want trying to talk, said that you have to
play and other stuff were.

Speaker 6 (01:11:12):
Like oh my god.

Speaker 25 (01:11:14):
And in the end I didn't want to go to
my own work Chrystmas study.

Speaker 5 (01:11:18):
I was like, I don't want to do that.

Speaker 25 (01:11:21):
But I just wanted to say when I went for
a big corporate with number of which I work for,
we had a Christmas club of our own and we
put it again every week and we did stuff out
of there. When the breeze number a baby, he bought flowers.

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
That's the social club is that's effectively effectively a social club.

Speaker 25 (01:11:41):
Yeah, and that was our Christmas party. You know, some
years we only got a box of chocolate from some
of the insurance companies of the years ahead, but they
didn't put it on and it wasn't expected. And so
you know, I think you said before it was a
bit of a tongue and chicken of love with love,
but sometimes I picked the christ with the love. You

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can't always do it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:06):
Yeah, Well, that's what it's good to change you because
we've said throughout the last couple of hours that if
it's a business like yourself and it is tough times,
and you've gone to your employees and said, look, I'm
really sorry, we're just going to have to do things
a little bit differently this Christmas. And if those if
those employees freaked out, in my view, those those are
bad employees that you know, you've gone to them as
a boss as you know, part of a small team,

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and it sounds like a good team and being upfront
with them. The fact that they freaked out of that,
well that's on them.

Speaker 17 (01:12:36):
It is on them, but it.

Speaker 25 (01:12:38):
Creates just a bad feel and then people start, you know,
get bitchy about each other. And I didn't want to
hear that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
So those are you are you back? Are you back
putting putting on Christmas parties?

Speaker 25 (01:12:51):
I'm out of the hospitality. Okay, get out and stay out.
Get out.

Speaker 3 (01:12:58):
There's certainly tough times for hospital Liz, Thank you very much. Neville.
You want to have a chat about Christmas? At the
Ford Motor Company.

Speaker 18 (01:13:06):
Yeah, just going back in time, they had an assembly
factory at CEV and Lie we had you know, there
was twelve hundred and fifteen hundred people there and the
company used to put on a children's Christmas party out
of Eastbourne. So all of kids and who were part

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of the company or were taken around to Eastbourne and
Father Christmas would turn out and have a Christmas Day
there and then the staff would be given a ham
a box of biscuits every Christmas. Almost an I was
only there about sixteen years, But so it was. And
also you had a function for the for the adults. Yep,

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and it was you know, this was back in the
days when we had a manufacturing base in New Zealand,
which is.

Speaker 6 (01:13:55):
No longer there.

Speaker 18 (01:13:56):
But you know, and I think all the other mode
of manufacturers would do the same thing. So people's different
different strokes for different blokes at different times. Yeah, they
always used to lay it on at times and it.

Speaker 4 (01:14:12):
Was real great.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
And how did that make you feel about the company?
Did that in a leading question? But did that increase
your loyalty to the company?

Speaker 18 (01:14:20):
Oh to me, But I you know, they shifted the
walk on what we decided to stay in the hut.
And but you know I enjoyed my time at for
Motive immensely.

Speaker 4 (01:14:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (01:14:33):
To me, they were a great employee.

Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
Did it all? Was it all pretty sensible at the
at the adult portion of the Christmas party? Or did
things get a little bit loose towards the end.

Speaker 20 (01:14:44):
Of the night.

Speaker 18 (01:14:46):
You're talking to the wrong person.

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
Come on, you were leading from the front. I know
you were.

Speaker 10 (01:14:54):
You go.

Speaker 3 (01:14:56):
Good Man Neville, thank you very much. We'll squeeze Dave
and get a Dave hey gone.

Speaker 15 (01:15:02):
Yeah, I worked for a company a couple of years ago.
They Christmas time, they shouted it all down Queenstown, put
us up at a hotel and then send us away
on a bench of trip and the bush where they
flew us in there ye in fight.

Speaker 23 (01:15:16):
They've got a catering comy in to cater a beautiful meal.
Then we crammed out the next day they flew us
out in the helicopter and then until we down the
Queen's then get out of everything for us come back
to work and.

Speaker 15 (01:15:27):
They gave me over a month and a half salery
as a bonus for those.

Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
For Christmas Chaper's. There's a unicorn company. What a Christmas party.

Speaker 23 (01:15:36):
They're very very good company, very good people, very very
family orientated, pretty pretty like a king.

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
Yeah yeah, are you still with that company?

Speaker 18 (01:15:44):
Now?

Speaker 6 (01:15:45):
I know I left because they had a supervisor.

Speaker 10 (01:15:47):
I thought it was Mike Tyson.

Speaker 9 (01:15:49):
No, right, But that was no reflect There was no
reflection on the company itself because the people are owned
the company were Yeah, yeah, very very well nice people,
very nice people.

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
Yeah, love it, thank you very much, Dave. Right, got
to get to the break and after that we're going
to wrap it all up. It is nine minutes to three.
You're listening to Matt and Tyler Good Afternoon.

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
The issues that affect you, and a bit of fun
along the way. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons. You
for twenty twenty four you talk said be it is
six to three.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
So it's been a great conversation over the last wee
while about Christmas parties, and it was all on the
back of the public sector having some pretty pathetic Christmas
parties this year, and there's been some pretty angry texts
coming through in nine two ninety two, people saying they
don't serve a party because cutbacks, and people ragging on
Christmas parties and saying they hate their workers, their coworkers,
and it's been a little bit depressing some of the

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techs to come through. So, look, I just want to
clarify my position here on Christmas fire parties. I understand
that things are hard and many are having cutbacks, and
I get that some companies can't afford a big shindig
this year, but I also think Christmas parties are are
really good thing, and I believe that it's great to
get together with your workmates and celebrate at the end
of the year to celebrate what you've achieved together. And
God knows we need to spend more time together with

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work from home and islation, so I believe we should
do everything we can to keep Christmas parties going as
a tradition. They are good for the soul of the
company and the nation. And when things go, they're gone
for good. If you can't do one because you can't
afford it, I hope you can do one in the future.
So look, let's not hassle people who have good ones.
Let's drop the envy and the judgment that includes us

(01:17:28):
in the media. Tyler, Okay, putting the boot into people
having fleshed Christmas.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
Parties, hold off.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
I think Christmas parties are something to aspire to and
as times get better, let's have better and better Christmas parties.
Viva the Christmas Party.

Speaker 3 (01:17:42):
Well, what a way to end it. Yep, thank you
very much for the last couple of hours.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
And having said that, we're not invited to our because
they're running out Christmas party while we were on here.
But that's a whole different issue.

Speaker 3 (01:17:51):
Yeah, yeah, we won't get into that today. Thank you
very much for that. Right after three o'clock I've got
a problem, and it is heating up across the country,
particularly in the Hawks Bay. We'll get to the bottom
of how hot it is and the Hawks Bay as well,
but after three o'clock. My problem is that we're in
a two story rental house and it is staying king
hot and humid up here in Auckland. We've dragged the
mattress down to the lounge to be right under the

(01:18:13):
air conf just.

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
Moved up from christ Yach so you're not used to
these levels of humidity and it's only going to get worse.
This is only the start, buddy.

Speaker 3 (01:18:19):
I did a deep dive into these portable air con units.
Are they worth it? Or what the hell do we
do to try and cool down the second floor so
I can actually sleep at night. Oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty is the number to call. Nine two nine
two is the text number. News, sport and weather on
its way. Thank you very much for your company. You're
listening to Matt and Tyler. We'll see you on the

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other side.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
Go back, love me too.

Speaker 23 (01:19:14):
This time WestEd you there alone.

Speaker 1 (01:19:24):
Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams. Afternoons.
You for twenty twenty four US Talks.

Speaker 29 (01:19:31):
It be.

Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
News Talks, It be good afternoon to you, six past three.
Welcome into the show.

Speaker 17 (01:19:39):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:19:39):
I've got a problem and it's to do with the
heat in Auckland and years I've moved up from christ
Church and they've got heat and christ Church, don't get
me wrong, but the situation we've found ourselves. And when
I say where, I mean me and my partner May
and I suppose the dog counts as well, Pepper, that
we've moved into a rental and it's the landlord. We
love the landlord and I think he loves us. But
it's a two storied and the heat pump slashy conditioner

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is downstairs, and so all the heat, as we know,
has been rising into the second story to the point
where we have dragged the mattress down into the lounge
and it's been there, honestly for the last three nights,
and I don't think it's gonna go back up into
the second story.

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
So you're reading, so you're reading a house, So you're
just going to be sleeping in the lounge because you
can't handle the heat, because yeah, I mean it's very
different up here. You can have higher temperatures in christ Church,
but the humidity up here in Auckland is quite something
as and I remember when I moved up from Dunedin
it was it was quite punishing and it's quite hard
to deal with. Has your house got a heat pump?

Speaker 3 (01:20:35):
It does downstairs, but it doesn't upstairs right And because
it's a rental, yes, we could look to pay five
six seven thousand dollars to get a heat pump installed upstairs,
but that is going to be of limited benefit to us,
a lot of benefit to our landlord.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
Yeah, well yeah, I mean you're not going to do that.
A You've got to install something that you can't take
with you. And I don't know if he'd want you
to smash holes in the wall and attach, but it's
the outside of the building.

Speaker 3 (01:21:00):
Not Now that I've mentioned it on the radio, he
probably won't. But it's a genuine problem that I've tried
a lot of the basic measures that open up, open
up all the windows and the top floor to try
and get some airflow through hasn't been working. Got an
extractor fan in the bathrooms upstairs, leave that on all day,
doesn't do anything. Tried the old fan tricks, nothing seems
to work. And did a deep dive into these portable

(01:21:22):
air con units. So these are ones that primarily you
you've got the weed tube that goes out the window,
but unless your window is ear tight, they don't work. Yeah,
they do. They're sucking out the hot air into and
create an almost like an anti pressure in the room.
And then when they suck out the hot air, if
you don't have it ear tight, they will just bring

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in more hot air into the room.

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
And you can't just plaster that with gaffer tape until
it's a type.

Speaker 3 (01:21:46):
Well maybe, but genuinely, so you want you want help.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
Really because you've moved up to Walkland to do the show.
I'm very grateful. We love having you here. Can we
want you to be happy and we want you to
have some sleep.

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
Yeah, sleep is important.

Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
So you want some help because you've you've done your
research and you're not being able to find any solution
and you're sleeping in the nude. I understand it's about
twenty texts just come through telling them to sleep in
the nude.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
You are I am, yeah, yeah, I've been doing that
for many years. Don't worry about that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
A nice feeling Actually people may or may not want
to have known that. So you want some help.

Speaker 3 (01:22:18):
Yeah, and if you particularly if you've gone these portable
ear conditioning units, because they're not cheap. I'll just say
for the good ones that I looked at, they're around
about fifteen hundred bucks. Yes, that's a lot of money
to pay. And if it's not going to do the
job that I want it to do, then that's money
down the drain.

Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
Can you get like five oscillating fans? Going?

Speaker 4 (01:22:34):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
Good question?

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
How many oscillating fans would would make the way? You've
tried a fan up there?

Speaker 3 (01:22:39):
Have you tried a fan? But I will be honest,
it was a kmart fan and nothing wrong with the
kmart fan. What I did look at is one of
those diceon fans and they look good and they call
it a cooling fan. But is that just marketing? Can
a fan really there's no AC unit in it?

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
Well, well, a fan just works because more ears moving
past your skin, so more heat leaves your skin. That's
how a fan works. But the ear moving around it
in the room, but the guts to a point where
it's just blowing hot ear past you. I feel for you,
I know exactly what it was like when I first
moved up here, and even for people that have lived
here for a long time, February is intense. I mean,
you're you're not, you're not. There's no duvets in Auckland

(01:23:16):
in February. So I wait, undred eighty ten eighty, can
you help Tyler out with his with his with his problem.
And just before we go in, we've got it. We've
got to talk about the controversy out of Hawk's Bay
because someone texted earlier that it was forty degrees and
then the text machine exploded with people saying rubbish, as
if it was forty degrees. I'm looking at the temperature here.
The official temperature is thirty degrees, but this person says,

(01:23:38):
for your information, my son sent me a screenshot of
his ute's external temperature at twelve twenty nine and it
was forty degrees. He's in naper chairs, boom. So I mean,
just because the official temperatures is thirty, there's different temperatures
in different places across across the place, and you can
just end up on a spot that's forty degrees exactly.
I was walking around it last night walking My dog

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was twenty three degrees and I was going too hot.
I'm over summer. But anyway, that's a different issue. Can
you help Tyler? Oh wait, undred eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 3 (01:24:05):
Yep, ticks are coming through on nine to two nine
two is well? It is eleven past three. Give us
a buzz on O one hundred and eighty ten eighty
Good afternoon, fourteen past three. How on the hell do
I call down our second story in Auckland? And yes,
there's a lot of techs coming through. Just hearted up, Tyler. Yeah,
I'm going to get a lot of that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
I mean so many people because I think ninety percent
of Auckland is people that have moved up from christ Church. Yeah,
except a lot of people that move up here. And look,
christ Church gets very hot. I mean I grew up
in Dneda. Nice to find christ Church very hot. Yeah
in the in the summer, but stay humanity.

Speaker 3 (01:24:40):
Yeah, and I had two heat pumps in christ Church. Glenn,
you use a particular.

Speaker 21 (01:24:45):
Fan, are you?

Speaker 6 (01:24:47):
Yeah? Get a all right?

Speaker 20 (01:24:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (01:24:49):
God, welcome to Auckland, whife and I we we bought
one of these things off the TV shop and it's
called a Hempster chill. It's a it's a stand up
drum sort of fanue filling up with water in the back. Yeah,

(01:25:12):
it's got a it's got a whole load of different
controls on the front, you know, touch button digital stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:25:20):
If you if you do put.

Speaker 13 (01:25:21):
Ice cubes in the back, I mean it obviously draws
the water through the van and that it really does
call the room down massively brilliant.

Speaker 3 (01:25:32):
I'm just looking at at an institute.

Speaker 18 (01:25:35):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:25:36):
The price is right. It was about eighty bucks. But
I've got to say, Glen, the reviews aren't pretty.

Speaker 13 (01:25:43):
These were about six seven hundred bucks, right, Okay, No,
where was a little at different things. That stands at
about four feet tall, probably a couple of hundred across
the diameter. And but no, that works really well called

(01:26:04):
the room down.

Speaker 28 (01:26:05):
We've got one of the batch up north and it
just calls it right down brilliant when you fill, when
you fill the water bucket up at.

Speaker 13 (01:26:15):
The bank and lat or last for about two days.

Speaker 19 (01:26:19):
And if you put the ice.

Speaker 13 (01:26:21):
Cubes in it, or even you can't even put a
little ice pack in it just to cool the water down.
It works a treat, really does.

Speaker 2 (01:26:31):
So if you've got you got as a moisture that's
flying around the room or is it just cooling the
air that it seems well.

Speaker 13 (01:26:39):
Well, it does send a sort of vapor out of moisture,
but it doesn't you don't get wet. You're not going
to get sticky clothes or you know what I mean,
You're not going to get nothing gets wet.

Speaker 6 (01:26:54):
But it's just brilliant.

Speaker 13 (01:26:56):
And as I say, we've got off the TV TV
shop and it was like get one and a half
price for the second sort of things that we look
bager we'll get to get to them. But it was
about bugget and we've just started using it this week.

Speaker 3 (01:27:15):
I'll try and track that down.

Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
The instague that Glenn, he's a text couple of whimps.
Don't even think about going to live in Australia. Five
months of this is frequently hotter. Yeah, it's funny. What
when New Zealanders think is hot or the committee humidity
you get in the in the Islands, Oh my goodness,
yeah here care but you know, look, you you're what
you're used to. And Tyler's acclimatized to pretty much zero

(01:27:40):
humidity and he's just starting his journey into the humidity
of the subtropics.

Speaker 3 (01:27:45):
Acclimatized to the good life down in christ But I've
got to say, I mean, because it's a rental that
is hard. If I own this place up here, yeah,
i'd probably say bugger it. I'll spend five K or
whatever it costs to get a heat pump in there.
That's the tricky part that I can't do that, Tyler.
Institutells are no good for humidity and New Zealand conditions.
They will fill your room up with water which can't
escape due to so much moisture in the air, your

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clothes in the wardrobe, et cetera. All go, moldy back
to the drawing board.

Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
Okay, there you go. Well you've got you've got opposing
views there on the.

Speaker 3 (01:28:14):
Institute eight hundred number to cool rods. How are you men?

Speaker 21 (01:28:21):
Good afternoon folks.

Speaker 6 (01:28:22):
Well you aren't, both of you?

Speaker 25 (01:28:24):
How are you?

Speaker 21 (01:28:24):
Tyler? Andy Way?

Speaker 3 (01:28:25):
Yeah, I'm hot. Well i'm cool now because it's the
ac in the studio.

Speaker 18 (01:28:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 21 (01:28:29):
Well, I'm up from the resident of I'm up in
the resident residential part of the Upper North Island and
it gets damn humid up there. So my recommendation and
I have checked and I've actually got one and I
can kill you. The full Bully is an R like
sixteen point seven vtu British thermal units four point six

(01:28:53):
standalone air com portable one that you do have to
vent through the through the glass. So you have to
spend one hundred bucks and get a glass circle cutt
and vent the A six eight in hose out through
that and possessions in the room. And I'll tell you
it's pumping currently. I've just switched it off. I'm on

(01:29:13):
the radio. It's currently pumping at the grill zero degrees
and it's eighteen in the room.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
And so if you've had to turn it off with
the radio, Rod, is is it a bit noisy?

Speaker 6 (01:29:25):
No, it's not.

Speaker 21 (01:29:27):
I'm sleeping right mixed. I can damn near reach out
and touch it and I can just about bold of it.
So it is on the it's about equivalent to about
three on the on the large sized fan.

Speaker 3 (01:29:39):
D And sorry to jump in there, but if you've
got the wee, yeah, yeah, just crank it on and
just give us a wee listen.

Speaker 4 (01:29:47):
I'll just put it on.

Speaker 17 (01:29:50):
We go.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
Making that noise?

Speaker 3 (01:29:55):
Is it on now?

Speaker 13 (01:29:56):
Is it?

Speaker 23 (01:29:56):
Rod?

Speaker 19 (01:29:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:29:58):
Just going now you hear that.

Speaker 3 (01:30:00):
Yeah, Oh yeah, we can hear something. Just put the
phone up nice and close to it.

Speaker 21 (01:30:04):
Rod, Well, there's nowhere where it's the noise that's on.

Speaker 6 (01:30:09):
That's on one.

Speaker 3 (01:30:10):
I can hear you yelling it's a noisy unit, Jeeve.
And there it goes there, it goes.

Speaker 2 (01:30:18):
As a seven four seven, just landed in your room. There, Rod,
I can't hear it at all.

Speaker 21 (01:30:26):
Zero degrees at the grill of a thermometer and school
as a cue jumper. You must mend it though that
you think no water vapor. There is a heavy machine.
It's compact, it's heavy, but it comes.

Speaker 6 (01:30:40):
On the palant.

Speaker 21 (01:30:41):
You just cut the cord.

Speaker 2 (01:30:43):
How much was that?

Speaker 6 (01:30:43):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:30:45):
How much was it? About?

Speaker 21 (01:30:47):
Seven hundreds is what.

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
I guess the question is, Sorry, Rod As Tyler, how's
your landlord going to feel about your cutting a circular
hole in your wander?

Speaker 21 (01:30:58):
No worries at all?

Speaker 3 (01:30:59):
There we go, right, it's all right, we'll just take
that to the landlord.

Speaker 6 (01:31:03):
I'll text you the constant.

Speaker 21 (01:31:04):
I'll text you the branch of bundings, which is which
is which they are at?

Speaker 2 (01:31:09):
Oh, thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (01:31:10):
Yeah, you're good for your insight.

Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
Yeah, I mean so you're willing to make permanent changes
to your rental. No, such as cutting a hole in
the window. No, souse, someonem' have been tell me, can
you not? Is not something that you could do. So
you've got to have the extract, you've got to have
the pipe going out the window. Right, yep, correct, as
there's not something that you could do just temporary. Make
a seal that's going to make it work. Could you not?

(01:31:33):
I don't know, Get some I don't know, some plastic
and then and some gaffer and make the seal.

Speaker 3 (01:31:39):
It's got to be super ear tight. But it's good
that you mentioned that. And that's why I'm a bit
lost about these portable air con units. As we've got
the swing windows. Most of them are designed for the
slide windows, so they've got the wee plastic that comes
with it you put into the slide window. The seals
are good. You can get these little tent things that
goes on the swing windows, but from what I've read,
they don't do the job. So it's useless. Fifteen hundred

(01:32:00):
bucks for just more hot air coming into your room.

Speaker 2 (01:32:02):
That's not what I want to do, right.

Speaker 3 (01:32:04):
One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Aparently this is a real issue. This text has said
in these three story homes with thirty centimeters of ruth
insulation that have been whacked up in Auckland. Worse since
the windows have catches that will limit their opening.

Speaker 2 (01:32:18):
Yeah, well, I live in the three three story house.
And the way I've solved the problems by putting my
kids on the top floor and so they're basically in
a sauna and me on the bottom floor in my room. Boy,
we are cool down there.

Speaker 3 (01:32:30):
That'll teach them.

Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
It looks like a chimney.

Speaker 3 (01:32:31):
It's twenty two past three.

Speaker 1 (01:32:38):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons, call oh eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty on news talk Savy it.

Speaker 3 (01:32:44):
Is twenty four past three. How do I cool down
the second story of our rental without installing a fancy
air on heat put because we don't know in the place. Grant,
how are you?

Speaker 20 (01:32:55):
Oh im good?

Speaker 23 (01:32:56):
Thanks?

Speaker 22 (01:32:56):
How are you good?

Speaker 3 (01:32:57):
Have you got a solution?

Speaker 17 (01:32:59):
Hey?

Speaker 16 (01:32:59):
Look, I do.

Speaker 10 (01:33:00):
And it's a bit of a one that people would
think is a bit contradictory. But see what peewees tend
to do is when it's really hot, outside, they send
to open all the windows and they let all that
hot air in, And the problem is with that is
you're actually taking any cooler that is in the house away.

(01:33:20):
So the kick to it is ventilation. But you want
to open a window that's very very high and then
keep the bottom field and so only the heightier lead
and the stored coolness in their house stays there. But
if you open a window at the very lower level,
you're sucking that twenty eight to twenty nine degree air

(01:33:42):
through your house and it makes the whole thing very warm.

Speaker 2 (01:33:45):
So you're saying, so you're on the second story, aren't you, Tyler? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
So you're saying that the highest you can open a
window on the second story, you're in a bit of
a chimney situation. Hotti arises, that'll go out the top window.
At what windows are your leaving? What windows are your opening, Tyler?

Speaker 3 (01:33:59):
All of them? All of them, the top, top floor,
bottom floor. No, that's what I'm doing wrong here.

Speaker 6 (01:34:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:34:05):
So if you have all the lower level window shut,
then the warm out sady is not coming in through there,
and it keeps that downs cold. But it also keeps
the top cold because only the hottest air is going
out and the air that's in the.

Speaker 4 (01:34:25):
Is coming in.

Speaker 10 (01:34:26):
It's coming into the top as well, so it's just
circulating around that top. That taking the hot air out
and leaving the rest of.

Speaker 3 (01:34:32):
The house cold has some good physics. Do you know
much about DVS systems? Grunt?

Speaker 6 (01:34:37):
Well, I do know a little bit.

Speaker 10 (01:34:39):
I think they're absolutely fast.

Speaker 3 (01:34:40):
But okay, right, because it's got a DV system, but
I can't figure out whether that's actually pumping cold air
from the lounge hut after the story, or it's taken
hot air from the roof and just pumping into everywhere.

Speaker 10 (01:34:51):
You don't be doing that at all, right, Yeah, there's
another key aspect to it. And we we have a
deubmidifier that we run in winter and in summer. It
costs about four cents an hour and I put it
on when it's raining and it makes a big diff
for how the house feels. But in summers takes the

(01:35:11):
moistu out of the air and cools you down, and
then winter it actually warms the room up for like
one degree practically free. So that's another thing to look at.
So if you do them to buy your house, it
just feels cooler.

Speaker 3 (01:35:24):
All right, these are good tips. I feel this is
going to cost me a heck of a lot of
money though. I get the portable ec on, then the dehumidifier.
I got to sort out the DV system, Fiona, what
do you reckon?

Speaker 29 (01:35:34):
Well, I'm not very technical. So one thing that I
did last summer was I grabbed one of those cooling
mats for that the dog can lie on, yep, And
I put it in a pillow slip and put it
on top of my pillow and it cools the back
of your neck beautifully.

Speaker 3 (01:35:52):
And where do you get these calling mats from?

Speaker 29 (01:35:54):
Oh, animates or yeah, just they're for animals.

Speaker 6 (01:35:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:35:59):
Are they comfortable?

Speaker 29 (01:36:00):
Bummies have them?

Speaker 27 (01:36:01):
Yeah right, yeah.

Speaker 29 (01:36:03):
And they're not expensive at all, Like you get a
couple of a couple of them for sort of twenty
five thirty dollars easily.

Speaker 3 (01:36:10):
And what are they what do you put them in
the freezer or something?

Speaker 29 (01:36:12):
No?

Speaker 22 (01:36:13):
No, no, you just you just leave them.

Speaker 29 (01:36:17):
Once they get hot, you can turn them over and
and they naturally cool. Again. They're really really neat. They're
really quite easy to use, and our dog really likes hers,
so makes and it makes the back of my neck.
Really cool. But the main thing you've got to learn
to do, Tyler is the ugly starfish pose.

Speaker 3 (01:36:37):
The ugly staffish pose. Tell me more.

Speaker 29 (01:36:40):
Yeah yeah, flad on your back like a starfish stark naked.
It really saves you. Yeah. My husband says there is
no such thing as an ugly staffish.

Speaker 22 (01:36:51):
So you go anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:36:52):
That's nice. But but speaking of partners, where does Tyler's
partner Does she lie when he's doing the ugly stuff?

Speaker 29 (01:37:01):
No, no, yeah, just you just work it out between
it as well. I can do it on our double,
on our queen's size.

Speaker 2 (01:37:08):
Oh yeah, okay, yeah, well kinally can do it on
the floor beside the by.

Speaker 29 (01:37:12):
That's true. Actually, there's a good idea.

Speaker 3 (01:37:14):
If I google that, am I going to get in
trouble with the company Google dougly star.

Speaker 29 (01:37:18):
Phot No, No, I think it's I think it's something
my friends and I made up.

Speaker 4 (01:37:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:37:22):
Yeah, yeah, don't google ugly staff Yeah yeah, to thank
you very much. Yeah, you know what, those thighs getting
together get a lot of heat between the thighs.

Speaker 3 (01:37:29):
Yeah, exactly, sweating in places no person should sweat. Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number.

Speaker 28 (01:37:34):
To call.

Speaker 3 (01:37:35):
It is twenty nine past three headlines coming.

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(01:37:58):
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(01:38:19):
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The United Kingdom uncovers vast crypto laundering scheme for gangsters
and Russian spies. Seymour at Zen Herald Premium. Now back
to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (01:38:57):
Thank you very much, Rayleen. It is twenty seven to four.
So how do I heat down the top floor of
our rental without installing a proper heat pump?

Speaker 2 (01:39:05):
Yeah, that's right. You're aclimatized to the cannon bree humidity
levels and you've come up here and boy, oh boy,
it's just early. It's only December the fifth. I know
what I'm to sleep all week when I came out
till mate, wait till February.

Speaker 3 (01:39:19):
I was smug when I came up here in October
and I thought, this isn't too bad. I can deal
with her. Some man, she's cranked up a level NIV.
What do you reckon?

Speaker 15 (01:39:27):
Ma Oh, there have to be a rocket scientist snape
fans some fans.

Speaker 3 (01:39:34):
Yeah, isn't that just going to move the hot air around?
I did mention before I got a Kmart fan, and
nothing wrong with Kmart fans, but it just blows hot
air straight into my face.

Speaker 5 (01:39:44):
Oh, a bargain ate.

Speaker 2 (01:39:47):
Yeah, well, I mean that's how fans work. They work
by evaporating sweat from your skin because it moves past,
so your sweat comes out, the heat comes off, goes past,
So the more air that's going around you, that the
coller you get.

Speaker 20 (01:39:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
So maybe five fans or something.

Speaker 20 (01:40:03):
Yeah, another question, yep, when you're going to get the band.

Speaker 2 (01:40:11):
Together, bring the old band voodoo like I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:40:18):
Okay, well, give the people what they want.

Speaker 2 (01:40:20):
Well, I'll see if I can track see if I
can track down those three other punishers. I'm not sure
where they are.

Speaker 3 (01:40:27):
Good man, nick Ni, thank you very much. Charles. You
want to talk about what they do in South Africa? Charles,
Oh bugger, we might have lost Charles.

Speaker 2 (01:40:40):
Hear what they do in South Africa?

Speaker 3 (01:40:42):
Yeah, I might put him back to Andrew. Just see
if he's there, Andrew, because we really want to check
to Charles. Larry.

Speaker 6 (01:40:48):
How you doing there?

Speaker 16 (01:40:53):
So you've got pretty good cool heady downstairs?

Speaker 28 (01:40:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:40:56):
When the heat pumps cranking, yep.

Speaker 16 (01:40:58):
Okay, now is a good axis. It's a good axis
busied upstairs and downstairs?

Speaker 3 (01:41:04):
Uh yeah, pretty good. Well, staircase now.

Speaker 16 (01:41:07):
You've got you've got other fans you've got big torvents
fans here.

Speaker 3 (01:41:11):
I don't know what the inches I'm rocking on the fans. Yeah,
the comparison.

Speaker 16 (01:41:19):
Set up these fans by the open windows upstairs and
try and seal them off as best you can. So
the fan, the fans are blowing out. Okay, So the
fans are blowing out of the window, not in. You
decrease you decrease the pressure upstairs. Decrease the pressure upstairs,
and you'll probably get the coldier coming up. So I

(01:41:42):
need to call your call your room down a bit.

Speaker 3 (01:41:44):
Okay, So I need a fan, a twelve inch fan
per window.

Speaker 16 (01:41:48):
Well, the more the barrier, because the lower the pressure
you can get inside your room, the more they down
below it's going to want to come up, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:41:58):
So you're sucking the out of the room and out
the window.

Speaker 16 (01:42:01):
And that's that's how somebody, some of the experts about
calling tell you how to call your house. But the
thing by the window backwards and you shuck the year
from the outside and it does a bit of job.

Speaker 2 (01:42:14):
Okay, try that tonight, Tyler, and I'll get back to us.

Speaker 3 (01:42:16):
This may be the solution. Larry, you're a good man.
Thank you. I think we've got Charles back. Get a Charles.

Speaker 20 (01:42:22):
Yeah, how are you going?

Speaker 4 (01:42:23):
Man?

Speaker 23 (01:42:23):
Good?

Speaker 3 (01:42:23):
So what are they doing in South Africa?

Speaker 21 (01:42:25):
Who?

Speaker 6 (01:42:27):
So, remember we battled with a lot of Africa.

Speaker 12 (01:42:33):
So the most cheapest and economic world of being it is.
We used to use a cooler box, a nice cooler box.

Speaker 10 (01:42:42):
You put it with ice and a little bit of water,
and then you'll take a twelve old stand and you'll
just mount.

Speaker 19 (01:42:49):
It onto the list into a small cutout.

Speaker 12 (01:42:51):
So what happens there is that can just run off
the battery causill call way out.

Speaker 10 (01:42:56):
Of the cruiler box.

Speaker 4 (01:42:58):
The cooler box stays very called.

Speaker 6 (01:43:00):
It last very long.

Speaker 12 (01:43:01):
It will l evening, So no problem.

Speaker 2 (01:43:04):
By coller box. You're talking about what we refer to
as a chili ban chili but yeah, yeah, this.

Speaker 3 (01:43:09):
Is actually genius. So you cut out a wee hole
at the top of the chili bin lead and secure
a fan that's pointing out and it will suck in
that cooler. Holy, I think we've got a winner.

Speaker 2 (01:43:20):
So you're gonna have to go down to the servo
and get a party ice every night.

Speaker 19 (01:43:25):
I think it it's so const detective because all you're
doing is running a twelve or fan, you.

Speaker 4 (01:43:30):
Know, a computer fan, if you will.

Speaker 3 (01:43:32):
Yeah, can I do this though? I mean I don't
have any diy on my blood whatsoever, Charles. If I
you know, I can't even take off a door hinge.
So if I look to do this myself, am I
going to run into trouble?

Speaker 2 (01:43:43):
Surely you can cut a whole one.

Speaker 10 (01:43:46):
I mean, all you need is a let's say fifty
more wholes.

Speaker 4 (01:43:51):
You just cut your hole to the lead. You just
screened the fan and that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:43:55):
I mean, yeah, it sounds pretty simple when you say
it like that, Charles, But so my can't came up
fan that would work a treat? Yeah, well, yes, okay,
that's good. That sounds Cheles, thank you very much. That
sounds like it could be a winner though, acshually.

Speaker 6 (01:44:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:44:14):
So, so what you have to do is you just
have to prepare the ice all day and your freezer,
I guess, and then you take it upstairs and you
and you know, I know you're scared of lithian batteries
and the recharging. So that's a bit of an issue.
We talked about that other day. So you'll have to
be charging those batteries because you don't want to keep
having to buy a twelve vault every day. Yeah, so
you can only charge that when you when you're home.
But you know, I think this could be a solution

(01:44:35):
for you.

Speaker 3 (01:44:35):
Forgot about the batteries situation and.

Speaker 2 (01:44:37):
You've got to cut a hole on the top of
the the cooler, the cooler cooler box, or the chili
bin as we call it, or the esky as the
Australian school.

Speaker 3 (01:44:44):
It's the winner so far. If you think you've got
a better solution. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
is the number to call. It is twenty one to four.

Speaker 1 (01:44:51):
Back in the month, Matteeth, Tyler Adams taking your calls
on eight hundred and eighty eight. Matteth and Tyler Adams
Afternoons News Dogs.

Speaker 3 (01:45:02):
They'd be good, good afternoon, eighteen to four.

Speaker 2 (01:45:04):
We're looking at temporary solutions to tie problem. He's on
the second floor of his house. He's just moved up
from christ Church. It's too high, he can't handle the humidity.
Getting some great suggestions coming through, Carol. Can you help Tyler?

Speaker 30 (01:45:19):
Well, I think so. I don't know, but if he's
got a DV system, I'm pretty sure if he figures
out how to put it onto summer mode, and you
can google apps. I think his problems will be solved.

Speaker 10 (01:45:27):
You have the cold air.

Speaker 2 (01:45:30):
You do have a DVS thing.

Speaker 3 (01:45:31):
Yeah, yeah, we've got a DVU system. But I've got
to say, Carol, that the the we watch him call
it where you can set how hard it goes. See,
you know, I know what I'm talking about. When it
comes to a DVS. It's basically just a little knob
that says zero to one hundred. That's all I've got.
Is there something else that I need to find?

Speaker 30 (01:45:50):
Differently is to what we have, But I google it
because it usually if you put it onto you might
need to put it on zero. It might bring the
cold air because it'll bring the air from upstairs downstairs, upstairs.
So if you've got an eis downstairs, theoretically it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:04):
Should yeah, it should be. It should work better than
you're saying it is.

Speaker 24 (01:46:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:46:08):
So maybe there's am so you're pumping that you're pumping
the heat pump freezing cold downstairs, right yeah, yeah, And
but nothing's coming up the stairs, no cold he is
coming up the stairs, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (01:46:19):
And even worse is that when we came home yesterday
it was stinking hot in the lounge, even with the
heat pump going, and I'm like, what the hell's going
on here?

Speaker 2 (01:46:25):
As the DVS hole in your room?

Speaker 3 (01:46:28):
No, but it's in the hallway that should get into
most of the rooms. But maybe that's my problem carrying
the TV system. It's can you check it in reverse?

Speaker 30 (01:46:38):
Well, yeah, I would that you should be able to
because that's how they work.

Speaker 5 (01:46:43):
Ship.

Speaker 30 (01:46:43):
But maybe you've got a very old one.

Speaker 25 (01:46:44):
Maybe you need to talk to.

Speaker 10 (01:46:45):
You lesson may get it serviced.

Speaker 2 (01:46:48):
Yeah, maybe google your DVS.

Speaker 4 (01:46:50):
Mate.

Speaker 3 (01:46:51):
I tried that.

Speaker 2 (01:46:52):
Cal you're doing Manoanui and you're going the wrong direction
and you're thrusting hot air back into the house.

Speaker 3 (01:46:58):
Put it in an autopilot, James, how you're doing you tyler?

Speaker 4 (01:47:03):
Have you got a single window or a double window?

Speaker 3 (01:47:06):
Single single in the bedroom? Single paint, sable pain.

Speaker 18 (01:47:10):
So what you can do is if you can cut
a piece of boards the same size or or persepects.

Speaker 4 (01:47:16):
You didn't cut a hole.

Speaker 18 (01:47:17):
For the duct, just put a couple of blocks, one
at the bottom of the top and you could just put.

Speaker 2 (01:47:24):
Oh no, James, no, But that's what that's He's making
sense there, because that's what I was saying, could you
just do it with a bit of plastic. No, but
if you get some perspects, then you'll be able to
get a really really good seal with the duct tape,
and then you don't have to cut a hole in
the window. You just have to cut a hole in
the plastic.

Speaker 3 (01:47:39):
So take out the whole window, the swing window, and
put perspects. Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 2 (01:47:42):
Wow? So what do you mean? I see a swing window,
right window? That's not a slide up kind of window.

Speaker 3 (01:47:48):
No, would be from them solved. That's what you have
to get.

Speaker 2 (01:47:52):
You'd have to get the hell of a bit of
perspects to cover that whole area.

Speaker 3 (01:47:56):
Yeah, exactly, I'd have to take out whole bloody window. Colin,
how are you?

Speaker 14 (01:48:02):
God?

Speaker 3 (01:48:03):
Well, you sound like, hey, you're pretty handy, So you've
got a solution for me.

Speaker 31 (01:48:08):
I've been a bit handy and days gone by. Basically,
we all know that cold air goes to the lower
point and the warm air.

Speaker 6 (01:48:15):
Goes to the top.

Speaker 31 (01:48:16):
Right, you've already experienced that. So basically what we want
to do is move the cold air up the top.
So the cheapest and most cost effective solution I've come
up with in the past is go down to whoever
sells little desk fans six eight inch desk fan, and
then go to your hardware store and get some of

(01:48:36):
the collapsible ducting. It's the kind of stuff that they
use for extractor fans and bbs and hrvs and that
runs through your ceiling space. Yeah, get some, get some
duct tape the extractor collapsible ducting, and then take that
to your fan and turn it on in the downstairs

(01:48:59):
area and close off, will close close all the doors
and windows, will close all the doors to keep the
cold air in the lounge wherever the heat pump is
and try and prevent as much cold air being used
to cool rooms that you're not in. And then run
the ducting up the stairs and set it up on
a chair or a coating or something above the bed,

(01:49:21):
and the fan will blow the cold air upstairs and
come down on top of you. It looks you know,
you can you understand what I'm saying?

Speaker 3 (01:49:30):
Yeah, I know. Well it's a genius. And I did
try and think about this sort of contrampture. But I thought,
am I just going to be buying all this stuff
and it's not going to work? But it sounds like
this is you've got to try that just so and
send us a picture of it. A different thing.

Speaker 31 (01:49:42):
As an agent at a six or eight inch desk
fan is going to cost you twenty five to thirty bucks.

Speaker 3 (01:49:47):
Yeah, yeah, And the duck ding's pretty cheap, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:49:50):
What you're doing is the range about it. It's basically
all you're doing is extending the range of your heat
pump in the cheap fashion. How much is the how
much is the piping going to cost? What do you
call it? The DUCKT D D.

Speaker 31 (01:50:00):
Thing's probably the duck thing's probably about thirty bucks for
ten meters meters?

Speaker 2 (01:50:06):
Is your solution?

Speaker 3 (01:50:07):
One hundred bucks? Said, and I'm going to go duck
then runs up the stairs.

Speaker 2 (01:50:11):
You could attach up to the wall and give it
a sort of a nice path to get a bit
more so it's not up actually running up the stairs.

Speaker 31 (01:50:17):
But what you're effectively doing is operating an HIV system
in reverse. Because an HIV system takes all the hot
air from your roof space and blows it down into
your lounge, bedrooms wherever. So obviously you can't turn that
and make it go backwards. So this effectively is applying

(01:50:38):
that same theory, but the other way around, transported around
the house. You're going to transport coolier.

Speaker 2 (01:50:44):
You've got to just do it to see if You've
just got to do it to see if it works.
That's what You've got to try it out, even if
it's not the permanent solution. I want to see you
do that.

Speaker 3 (01:50:51):
This is going to be one hundred dollars. Well hopefully.
Well you'll feel.

Speaker 2 (01:50:54):
Cool if you do that, if you put that together,
because I know you're useless, and that's about I think
that's within your range of abilities, Tyler.

Speaker 31 (01:51:02):
But the thing is you know that you know that
it works because pot are goes from one room to another,
so the fact that it's cold here.

Speaker 4 (01:51:09):
Makes no difference.

Speaker 31 (01:51:10):
All Right, I'm going to make make sure that the
seal is good.

Speaker 3 (01:51:13):
Right, I'm going to make a promise to both both
of you guys that I'm going to do it this weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:51:17):
Than what you do now you're moving yourself down there
and sleeping in the lounge under the heat pump on
your mattress. That's the confidence I needed though that what
Colins is just thing is you just move the ear upstairs.

Speaker 31 (01:51:29):
Yeah, I mean, think of it along the lines of
putting a straw in your mouth and just blowing on
the straw. The ear's got to come out at the end,
doesn't it, as long as it's a seal. So the
cool there. The key who it is is turn the
heat pump, turn the ecorn on when you get home
to cool the room down, and then when you go
to bed. You don't need to have the heat the
cooling going at full noise because you've only got cold

(01:51:49):
air in the room. So you can save a little
bit of money by not running the heat pump full
noise throughout the entire night.

Speaker 2 (01:51:54):
Genius, Well done, Colin. And this other solution suggestion is
have a cold shower before you get into bed. Don't
draw your front there you go and lie on your back.

Speaker 3 (01:52:01):
Why don't try the front because.

Speaker 2 (01:52:05):
So what evaporates off you?

Speaker 5 (01:52:07):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:52:08):
Are on the downstairs?

Speaker 2 (01:52:09):
Have you been helped there?

Speaker 4 (01:52:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:52:10):
I think so. Well I am going to do that
set up. I'm going to go get some ducting and
some desk fans and I'll have evidence that I've given
it a crack.

Speaker 6 (01:52:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:52:18):
Well, up next we're going to put that to bed.
And up next we've got Jason Hoyt from the Big
Show on Hodaki and the Alternative Commentary Collective to preview
the cricket tomorrow at the Base in Reserve.

Speaker 3 (01:52:27):
It is eleven to four.

Speaker 1 (01:52:30):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between. Mat Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons You
for twenty twenty four US Talk, said baid b.

Speaker 2 (01:52:41):
Eight to four and we're joined by New Zealand's favorite
treacle voice, cricket commentator Jason Hoyt from the Kadaki Big
Show and the Alternative Commentary Collective. Get a Jason, good mates,
how you're going real good?

Speaker 11 (01:52:52):
Very good?

Speaker 2 (01:52:52):
So the black Caps are fielding the same side. Are
you happy with that it? Do you think they should
have thrown old Mitchell Satner in there?

Speaker 10 (01:52:57):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:52:57):
Look, I wasn't too unhappy with that. There was some chat.

Speaker 32 (01:53:00):
I think that Santa was going to come in for Smith,
who made his debut of and that that first Test match,
and I like the cut of his Jeb Fellers. To
be honest with you, I think he's got quite a
lot to offer. So I wasn't too state with that.
But you know, it's interesting because we're in this bit
of a conundrum really with us New Zealand side. So
many of our players, you know, struggling for form with

(01:53:22):
the bats, and we just don't seem to have the replacement,
so they're sticking with the tried and true aka Gary
Stead just not rocking the boat.

Speaker 3 (01:53:30):
Yeah, and what have we got.

Speaker 2 (01:53:31):
We've got a classic basin reserve green seama health, of.

Speaker 3 (01:53:33):
Course, I think so.

Speaker 32 (01:53:35):
Yeah, it's always green generally speaking. Whoever wins the toss
wins the test match.

Speaker 4 (01:53:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:53:40):
Absolutely, Obviously we lost badly in the first Test, Jason,
but considering we dropped so many catches of the team's
actually a lot closer than the results suggested.

Speaker 32 (01:53:49):
Well, that's a really interesting point. And we were talking
about this on the BYC podcast yesterday. You know, people going, oh,
if we didn't drop eight catches, it would have been
a really close Test match.

Speaker 2 (01:53:58):
And it's like, but the point is we did drop
eight catches, you know what I mean.

Speaker 32 (01:54:03):
So you can't say, off, we didn't pay that terribly
in that aspect of the game that we could have won,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:54:09):
But how do you stop dropping catches?

Speaker 32 (01:54:11):
It's like I was talking about it yesterday, It's like
a virus. That infects the side.

Speaker 17 (01:54:16):
You know.

Speaker 32 (01:54:16):
It's like a collective case of the yips where someone start,
you know, someone will drop a catch and then the
whole team starts doing it, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:54:23):
And there was a lot of expectations after.

Speaker 32 (01:54:25):
That phenomenal series in India, which no one in their
right mind would ever have predicted.

Speaker 2 (01:54:31):
We were thinking, so where are we at?

Speaker 32 (01:54:32):
You know, and sadly it was a massively disappointing Test
match for us, and I feel like we're back in that.

Speaker 2 (01:54:39):
Place where we were before the India series. So what's
your prediction?

Speaker 32 (01:54:44):
Look, I have to say this, my heart says the kiwis,
of course, but I just think that England had the
wood on us. We went over there, of course a
few years back. We were competitive in every Test, but
we lost them all. They sort of did the job
on us when they came over here last time, apart
from that last match that we stole at the very
last minute. Look, I favored the English, but I also

(01:55:06):
have high expectations that the boys will bounce back.

Speaker 2 (01:55:09):
And how do you feel about the whole Bears McCullum factor.
It feels weird, It feels weird. He's sort of hiding
in the background. You're not seeing him on the cameras,
but the confidence of Bears McCallum's right through that team,
which I hate because I love Bears and I wish
he was on our side.

Speaker 32 (01:55:22):
Oh look, Bears is a legend, and I don't know
that I've ever forgiven him for you know, turning against us,
because he'll be giving them all the intel, you know
what I mean. That's pretty filthy as far as I'm concerned.

Speaker 2 (01:55:34):
Hopefully he's pumping him full of red wine as well.
We had a few darries maybe yeah, or I thank
you so much. Jason Hoyd about to go live on
The Big Show on Radio Hadaki and the ACC will
be live with the Cricket Commentary on iHeartRadio from about
quarter to eleven tomorrow morning. No worries, Thank you mate,
good stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:55:50):
Right, good show today, Big show today.

Speaker 2 (01:55:53):
Huge Show and the podcast will be out wherever you
get your podcasts very soon until we see it tomorrow.
Give him a taste of Kewy from me. Ain't take
escape my coming in my mad lets you got too sweet,

(01:56:22):
You're too sweet?

Speaker 18 (01:56:30):
And take.

Speaker 3 (01:57:03):
Cock lets you got to

Speaker 1 (01:57:18):
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