Full Show Podcast: 10 December 2024

On the Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons Full Show Podcast for the 10th of December, dashcams are soaring in popularity and Matt and Tyler explored how people are using them.

The Afternoons duo also explored keeping the lid of the cost of getting married.

And some great discussion around the news that dropped today about shutting down greyhound racing.

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Speaker 2 (00:16):
We started Hello are you Great, New Zealanders and Welcome
to Matt and Tyler Afternoons podcast. The full show for Tuesday,
the tenth of December in the Year of Our Lord
twenty twenty four. Huge show. Today we've went deep into
dash cams after this footage you got to check it
out on the Herald site with an undertaker on the

(00:37):
side of a camper van with someone coming up the rear.
It's quite it's quite quite a lot. But we talk
about dash cans, which is good. That was good chat.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Actually, that was a good chat.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
We go like Australia to a truckie that's traveling about
seven thousand k day.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
I'm convinced I'm buying a dash cam, no no doubt
about that. Also, the wedding chat went off.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Yeah, boy, oh boy. I think we had the most
calls we've ever had to the show today, across the
dash cams, the wedding chat, how to run a cheap wedding,
and into the banning of greyhounds.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
Boy.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
So we had to abandon a couple of the other
topics because the Greyhound chat just blow up. So enjoy
the show ladies and gentlemen, and make sure you follow
or sit to download and look give a tastea Kiwi.

Speaker 5 (01:25):
Talking with you all afternoon.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
It's Matt Heathan Tyler Adams Afternoons New for twenty twenty
four News Talk Zidby.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Good afternoon to you, sex pass one great day of
your company as always, met In Tyler with you until
four pm.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Ghetto mets Yeah, Tyler, is that a new thing you've added,
sort of a I don't know, like a goat, like
sheep like.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Good afternoon afternoon.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
There could be your signature as we enter twenty twenty five,
you know, and new for twenty twenty five the met
and Tyler Afternoon, good.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Afternoon, got good afternoon? Could be right out there one
exactly right, big show today after three o'clock. You want
to talk about shotgun etiquette and not the firearm?

Speaker 2 (02:05):
I absolutely do because look, I was involved in an
incident where I was driving back. It was quite a
long drive, about forty five minutes. It was through Auckland
in the weekend, so that can be forty five minutes
from out east pakeranger into town and there was an
accident on the road. Anyway, the person in my passenger
seat and my shotgun seat said, oh, I'm just going

(02:27):
to take a sleep here and roll his seat back
and went to sleep. How do you they And I
just thought, that's you can't do that. You can't do
that your job. And look, I could be wrong here,
but I think this is particularly on the roads when
you're going between cities, right, This is particularly the case
that the shotgun obligations, the passenger seat obligations are to
stay awake, to keep the driver company, and also to

(02:51):
provide refreshments for the driver, and also to choose the tunes.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Ye, well, choose the tunes as well.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, there's a lot of responsibilities there. But it's also
a serious safety thing when you're going between towns, isn't it.
And luck, look, maybe I'm being a bit churlish here
because this was just across Auckland, but across Auckland in
the weekend is basically into city but between towns. You know,
if you're in the shotgun seat, you've got some responsibilities.

(03:16):
You're like a co pilot. Yeah, you're like a co
pilot and a seven four seven. You have to be
ready to take over the controls if the driver goes down.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Yeah, you don't get a free pass though, you get
the good seat. That doesn't mean that you've got you're
on easy street now. No, no, no, no, You've got
to stay awake. You're going to provide some good chats.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah, good chat. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And that's self preservatorial.
I'm not sure if that's a word in the interests
of self preservation, because you don't want your driver falling asleep.
You're at the bed in the passenger seat.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Yeah, well you're asleep exactly. That's going to be a
good chat after three o'clock. After two o'clock, we want
to talk about weddings. It's looking like a tof summer
for businesses that deal with weddings. A lot of people
cutting back costs.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, we tried to talk about this yesterday, about the
chat we're having was just too good and we didn't
have time for this one. So we think it's a
good one. So we want to chat about today. We
want to talk about weddings. How do you do a
less expensive one? And do you need to spend a
lot of money on a wedding to do it justice?
Is that the important part of it that you've had

(04:25):
a flashy, spectacular wedding to mark this very important occasion
and make it the best day of your life. Is
that important? Or it was at the heart and the
meaning of the situation. And if it's just a few
trestle tables and some sausage rolls in the backyard, then
that's just as good if the lover is there.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
I'm going to throw out a big generalization here. I
reckon the cost matters more to the bride than it
does to the groom. You sexist pig, Well prove me wrong.
Oh had one hundred. That is after two o'clock. Now,
just before we get into a one o'clock topic, we
do want to talk about briefly a big story that
just broke at one o'clock. The end of greyhound racing

(05:06):
is near in this country, with the government today moving
to prevent dogs being killed on the tracks. A racing minister,
Winston Peters says the decision has not been taken lightly
and is driven by protecting the animal's welfare. Peters says
the industry has been on notice over welfare concerns for
several years, but the percentage of dogs injured remains high.
A twenty month wind down period will serve as a

(05:28):
transition period for the industry and allow rather the dogs
to be rehome. That's a lot of dogs needing to
be rehomed, So legislation to end to the greyhound racing
will be introduced next year.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
End of an era. It's big, It's big. The dish
lick is down. I'm just I just read anonymously. I've
got a punting a punting WhatsApp group with friends, and
this is the response from some of my friends. Okay,
can I claim bereavement leave on this news? Yep. The
next one is dish lick is down. Another one of

(06:00):
my friends says the saddest day in New Zealand history.
Another one says end times, and the other ones, and
then the next one says, what's I'm not going to
read out going to do with his weekends?

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Yeah? I mean, look, there'll be a lot of people grieving.
There's a lot of punters who enjoy the greyhound racing
as they do the horse racing. And I think Winston
Peters as the Minister of Racing, is going to get
a lot of pushback.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Well, it's the ponies next. Well, not if Winston has
his way, because when he loves the ponies. But you know,
is this just the start of all those kind of
things because you know there's there's safety concerns around around
the ponies, isn't there.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
It's interesting coming from Winston because he was always the
champion of those within they greyhound industry that's long been
floated about banning greyhounds. The horse is not so much,
but a lot of pressure has been put on that
on the greyhound industry. But when he's always said no,
not on my watch, and now clearly they've changed their minds.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Is he just throwing the dish lick as the greyhounds
like meat to the rabid mob of animal safety people?
So he just sacrifices the greyhounds to take the heat
off the off the ponies.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Maybe.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Well we're gonna have a chat to Jason Wolves, our
political editor, in about twenty five minutes time, so we'll
ask him those questions. Here's on the stand up as
we speak, but onto the topic we want to have
a chat about over the next hour or so. Dash cams.
This is on the back of footage of a car
using the roadside to undertake a camper van on a
South Island road has divided opinion online, so it was

(07:31):
posted to the Facebook page christ Hitch. Dash Cams and
reactions to the maneuver were mixed, so if you haven't
seen the video, it is up on the hero page.
But effectively it looks to be the West Coast, a
little bit of a winding road. And this is where
the disagreement comes from is I thought it was a
slow lane to the left, but you think it might

(07:51):
have been a shoulder. But effectively the dash camp looked
like it was a truck. There was a camper van
in the front going particularly slow. Then this little white
Toyota Corolla rams it up the left to overtake both
of them.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah, undertakes. So there's a shoulder on the side of
the road that would probably be big enough for the
camp a van to pull over.

Speaker 5 (08:10):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Let the other two cars through. But I say all
of them are at fault in this dash cam video.
I say that the camp of van's going too slow,
and also the person with the dash cam is right
up as as so that's tailgating. And then youet the
dirty Toyo to corolla coming around and the undertaking on
the shoulder, so all of them are dirty. But the

(08:33):
writer question is around dash cams. Do you have them,
how do you get them, how much do they cost?
And should we all have them? Because there's so many
altercations out on the road right now. And we were
just hearing last week about that road rage incident where
a person was attacked with a wheelbrace and you wouldn't

(08:54):
mind having that footage. But even just for insurance claims
or whatever weirdness happens on the road, is it time
we all got dash camps?

Speaker 3 (09:02):
They seem very handy to have it, and how hard
is it to get one? Yeah, and truckies in particular,
if you've got your dash care as I take it,
that is paid for by the business. But has that
got you out of trouble in the past? Has that
helped you? If there has been an incident on the
road and you've caught that on the dash cam, do
you post that online? Willy nilly? I mean, is there
any rules around that? I suppose they're very entertaining some

(09:22):
of those dash cam Oh.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, their content, yea, the social media content, there's no
doubt and today in the NZ Herald.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah, absolutely so. If you've got a dashcam, we'd love
to hear from you. What was the setup like and
it has it saved you from a particular particularly bad
situation on the road. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty
is the number to call. Nine two ninety two is
the text. It is fourteen pass one.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
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Speaker 3 (09:56):
There'd be news talks there b seventeen past one. We're
talking about dash cams? Are they a worthwhile investment? It's
on the back of another story dash cam story in
the media on the New Zealand Herald, and it's worth
the watch. It was footage of a car using the
left hand side undertaking if you will, to pass a
camper van that was going a bit slow using the shoulder.

(10:17):
I thought it was a slow lane, but as you
mentioned before, you blame all three of the participants in
that video for paul behavior.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah, and one hundred and eighty ten eighties. You're on
a dash cam? Does it help? Should we all have
dash cams. We want to talk about this, as this
person says, as usual, too many impatient drivers, plus the
undertaker has removed the opportunity for the van to move
over safely. That's that's a good point because I say
that the dash cam driver and this is this isn't
the wider point we're looking at if you've seen this footage.
But if you want someone to pull over so you

(10:46):
can go past, you have to. You can't be you
can't be tailgating them so close that they can't pull over.
You can if you're riding them to hurry them up
because you're annoyed that they're going too slow by being
so close behind them that they can't pull over. Yeah,
then that's not helping the situation, isn't.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Yeah exactly, Kevin, you've got a dashcam, Kevin, that's three yeah, yeah, perfect,
got you there, mate, Sorry, just lost at the start.
So you've had them for some years? Did you say?

Speaker 6 (11:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (11:13):
I've got them in all my cars. And I would
strongly recommend getting them simply because you know, you just
see all the stuff on these videos and it's just
good to have that protection, you know, especially the ones
we'll find. It's got to think called barking mode, and
if it'll detect any damage to the vehicle while it's

(11:33):
parked and stuff. So that's really awesome. Yeah, yeah, And
I guess for me, I've got an old classic American
car and I've got to I'll set up Wi Fi
in the car so I can actually log into those
cameras and check them at any time from anywhere in
the world.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
How much was your How much was it does it
cost to set each set up each one of the
each one of these desk cams.

Speaker 7 (11:58):
You can go cheap, you know, start from my probably
nine to nine marks for a relatively okay one, go
all up to about a grand, you know, with battery
back up and stuff. But now they've got I've got
mine hard white and to the car so that they
just run all the time. They don't use that much

(12:19):
that you're in a parking mode. And if you are
going to get one, just look for the widest angle possible,
which is, you know, on the front of the vehicle.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
I just looked for Sorry, no, no, sorry to jump
in there. Have you ever had to use the footage
with the insurance company or ever uploaded some pretty crazy footage?

Speaker 7 (12:40):
I have one by change lanes to the side of
my car, and then I sent the footage of the
insurance company. And then two weeks later someone changed lanes
into the other side of my car, I mean, and
this guy took off on me as well the second guy.

(13:02):
And I had it all on on camera and it
was awesome.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
But your desk cam, so that was caught on your
dash cam or just them just leaving the scene?

Speaker 5 (13:13):
Now all of it.

Speaker 7 (13:15):
So basically we pulled over heat butt out, took my
registration and then it was great because he looked right
into the dash can faith and everything, and he took
off and I said, I want to chase them. I'll
just go to go to the police and and did
a report and they said rang me. Later they caught

(13:36):
him and ticketed them for an own safe lane page.
So an insurance company, well, don't worry about your EXXST.
We can see you're in the right get well that that's.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Very very handy. Do they turn on automatically or do
you have to on your once you have to turn
them on for each drive or are they connected to the.

Speaker 7 (13:55):
Edition They all turned on automatically, like you need to
plug them into your lighter outlet. Well, you can hardwire them,
and they're super easy to do that yourself. Just watched
some YouTube videos and you can do it. But it
doesn't really cost much to get them installed. But I'd
strongly recommend hard wiring because what they do is they
actually have a little I don't know what to call it,

(14:18):
but it's basically checks how much battery level is and
if it goes through load or just shut off, so
you can always start your there because it's like sitting
for two weeks and the garage or something and it'll
just shut off self and not drain the battery right down.
So there's really cool stuff like that that you didn't get.

(14:39):
But the one I've got where you can log in
and you know it connects to Wi Fi and all that,
I think that was about nine hundred bucks. But they're
coming down now and you can pick up a really
good one for a probably a round about three to
four hundred with dast mode now heart resolution, a high
frame rate, really good to see my senses in them,

(15:00):
which means it's really good for or driving at night
and catching license plates and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
And what about the footage, Kevin, do you have to
do you have to delete the footage regularly or does
it only for twenty four hours overwrites it.

Speaker 7 (15:18):
So's you'll almost a st card thirty two or sixty
four spine and that just records, and it just records
over itself because get like you know, I don't know
how long, depicks on how much you're driving, but you'll
get loads and loads of footage on that st card.

(15:38):
So you can always review it on on an app
or you know, quite easily. And then basically when you
when when you download it, you've got it obviously for good.
Some I'm actually linked to a cloud based storage so
you can actually link it. If you've got a Google

(15:58):
one drive, you can just upload them straight up there.
But it does it does eat up the dry space online.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
So so when you when you have to upload it,
do what do you have to just have within Wi
Fi range to uploaded or do you have to know?

Speaker 7 (16:16):
You can do it a couple of different waves. You
can actually probably connect to the device file by fight all.
You can actually just pop up the SD card in
it and chuck it into a little you know, D
card reader like a USB so I hope they have,
and you plug it into your laptop and you can
download it.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
I guess you know when an incident's been and then
the footage is worth keeping and not you.

Speaker 7 (16:39):
Know what over I think yeah, and I think some
of you can set up where if its a collision,
that will automatically protect that particular moment.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
Interesting, Kevin, thank you very much. I mean he's making
a good case for having dash cams. And what do
you say about a thousand dollars for a fairly good setup.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
I'm getting quite excited about getting a dash cam.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Don't know why. Yeah, I mean, I'm just trying to
think I've ever been in any incidents that would have
helped a dash cam.

Speaker 8 (17:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Well, I like what he was saying there. That get
the one that the fish angle lens or the wide
angle lens that if you're in a supermarket car park
and someone parks beside you and you're on the supermarket,
they open a door and ding your door, you can
catch them in the act.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Yeah, Like the parking one's an interesting one. And I
had a friend that a few weeks ago just came
out to see their car in their car had just
someone had smashed into the side it and ground it
up and then just hit the road. Yeah, you know,
it would be really interesting to check your your dash
cam on that one.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
Oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty if you've got
a dash cam, if you ever used it successfully trying
to track someone down who dinged your vehicle indeed on
the road. Love to hear from you. Nine two nine
tools the text number as well. It is twenty five
past one.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers the mic asking breakfast.

Speaker 5 (17:59):
It's a tough old year for a New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
The man in charge, Greg four in Er, is with us.

Speaker 9 (18:02):
Now listen.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
The thing that is getting the ghost of your customers,
it's the pricing, obviously, but I reckon it might actually
be the on time performance.

Speaker 10 (18:08):
Do you reckon you can fix that.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
I can tell you we're doing everything we can, and
I'd go a step further and say to you, actually,
cancelations is a thing that gives me greatest concern at
the moment. A fair amount of it is just simply
getting the part. We often have to wait for an
aircraft to be what they call on ground before the
supply will release a part to us. Yes, now, we're
working hard on those things. We've got to do better,

(18:31):
and I do apologize because it's not where we want
it to be either.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Duplusy Ellen on the Mic Hosking Breakfast Back tomorrow at
six am with Bailey's Real Estate on News Talks, there'd be.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Twenty eight past one. We're talking about dash cams on
the back of a story in the New Zealand Herald
about some bad driving caught on dash cam. But the
water question we've put to you is, if you've got
a dash cam, why do you have it? Have you
managed to catch some footage of some bad behavior, indeed
someone bringing your vehicle? Brian, you've got two desh cams
right now as we speak, I.

Speaker 11 (19:04):
Have and best invention or Buddy I come across. I've
actually got two sitting in front of me on the
truck at the moment.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
So you've got you've got two two both facing forward.

Speaker 11 (19:19):
I've got one that faces forward and I've got my
other one is as you attached to my side side
window and Buddy.

Speaker 12 (19:29):
Looks in the mirror backwards.

Speaker 11 (19:33):
Down the left hand side.

Speaker 13 (19:34):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Have they ever captured anything that's helped you out?

Speaker 14 (19:38):
Ah?

Speaker 11 (19:39):
Yeah, over the years, and that's yeah. But I actually
carry a whole lot of spare histy cards. Like if
I see an AX or something, I could take the
sty card out and I can just hand that to
the to the invistigating officer and I can put a
new history card.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
Straight in it.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Are you are you in the city truck driver?

Speaker 5 (20:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (20:04):
I cover the whole of New Zealand right?

Speaker 3 (20:06):
And did you pay for the dish cans or as
that fronted up by your your boss.

Speaker 13 (20:12):
One?

Speaker 11 (20:12):
And then I've had for christ that long now, it's
not funny. I had it when I was in Australia
and the other one and Matt was given to my
given to me by my pass and that because he
had a sphere one.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
So that's in the.

Speaker 12 (20:26):
Truck as well.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
What's the most interesting thing you've captured, Brian?

Speaker 11 (20:32):
This is a family shower.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Yeah, with the trucks that up high, don't they?

Speaker 15 (20:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (20:40):
But genuinely, Brian, is it? Has it saved you from
a situation where you know someone might have cut in
front of you as a truckie They you know, cried
fell or rang your boss and said you were driving
like an idiot and you presented them with the evidence.

Speaker 11 (20:54):
I had bloody one, Lady on the UCAD Motorway reckons.
I was tailcating here and breake checking here, and the
cops pulled up, go, well, what's going on? And he
said this lady's hung up complaining that your your break
chicken here and here with the acronized gender and most
of them, Yeah, there might be a bit hard for

(21:17):
me to break chick who which is proNT of me
on my desk?

Speaker 8 (21:20):
Hen?

Speaker 11 (21:20):
Yeah, The cop goes, what So I finally pulled up
so I can play it back on the on the
little screen, and I just punched it up and went
there anyway.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Oh yeah, I risked my case officer.

Speaker 11 (21:37):
Yes, I just came the ISD can. I just got
a new st cartinet so I run sixty wards in it.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
You mentioned you you're over an Aussie is a pretty commonplace,
and Aussie for not just truckies, but more people to
have des stems.

Speaker 11 (21:54):
A lot of them over there have got deshtans because yeah,
some of the I's word, I'm looking for some of
the not normal people and that some of the things
that I've seen them doing that you just look at
them and you shake your.

Speaker 14 (22:10):
Head and go, what hell you're dying?

Speaker 16 (22:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah, oh, thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
If you call Brian pretty commonplace over and Aussie, I
mean Brian sounded like a pretty hard case truggy to
be honest. Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty.
If you've got a dash cam, has it ever gotten
you out of trouble? Plenty of texts coming through as well.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Yeah, and we're going to continue this chat after the
news headlines, but directly aft news headlines, We're going to
go live to Jason Walls for an update on this
greyhound band that's been announced.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
Yep, absolutely, that's coming next. It is twenty eight minutes
to two.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Jus talk sa'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis.

Speaker 17 (22:49):
It's no trouble with a blue bubble. The racing Minister,
so shutting down greyhound racing is a matter of doing
the right thing. With a percentage of dogs injured racing
still high. Racing will shut down over a twenty month
transition period, and legislation introduced today will outlaw killing racing dog.

(23:09):
Auckland nurses are walking off the job this afternoon until
five o'clock, protesting pay and staffing levels is part of
rolling strikes countrywide. The government's appointed a Director of New
Zealand's largest fuel import terminal Felicity Underhill. As the Climate
Change Commissioner the Sis has set New Zealand's national threat

(23:30):
level at low. It's up one step from unlikely, meaning
terror attacks remain a realistic possibility. Voter us traveling on
State high Where seventy three now Arthur's Pass should expect
delays with work at McGrath at Creek Bridge between ten
am and three pm each day until Thursday. Signs of
life in New Zealand's equity capital market. You can read

(23:52):
more at NZ Herald Premium. Now back to Matteathan Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Thank you very much, Raylene. As you heard in the headlines,
the racing Minister sees shutting down grayhound racing is a
matter of doing the right thing. To discuss more, we're
joined by our political editor, Jason wolves get a Jason.

Speaker 9 (24:09):
Oh, good air boys.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
So any word when this greyhound ban is going to
come into effect?

Speaker 18 (24:14):
Yes, well twenty months from now, says Winston Peters. He
needs to give the industry a little bit of time
to wind things down and to cross a few tees
and dot a few eyes. But for all intents and purposes,
this industry is dead. It will be no more from
twenty months time after these let this legislation comes in
all this band comes into force, which is essentially now

(24:34):
but saying it for twenty months time.

Speaker 9 (24:36):
We do have in tandem to.

Speaker 18 (24:37):
This, some legislation going through the House which is essentially
going to make it illegal to euthanize greyhounds racing dogs,
because this ban is coming into place, and Peter's said
that process begins today with the introduction of the Racing
Industry on Lawful Destruction of Specified.

Speaker 9 (24:55):
Greyhound's Amendment spell a bit of a mouthful. Here's what
he had to say, which.

Speaker 19 (24:58):
Will we pass under urgency to prevent the unnecessary killing
of racing dogs. And we've had the commitment of one
hundred and twenty two votes for that to happen.

Speaker 18 (25:05):
So every MP in the House is along the Racing
Minister Winston Peters with this one and that's going to
pass through all stages of the House later today now,
according to Winston, who's just come out of a press conference,
this is something that the government has been working on
for some time and.

Speaker 19 (25:21):
We are courses to make sure that we had all
the facts. But the incidents of injuries is just unacceptable.
It's about sixty eight percent above the any acceptable benchmark
and mirrors internationally some of the records there as well.
And so in the end, we have to make a
decision and we're making one.

Speaker 18 (25:38):
So interestingly, he said that the racing industry, the greyhound sector,
learned about this is the same time as everybody else,
So there's quite a few.

Speaker 9 (25:45):
I mean, you could be listening to this right now.

Speaker 18 (25:46):
You could be one of the people involved in the
sector and have absolutely no idea what has happened. So, yeah,
that's the way that rints, Winston rolls.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
If they can't be put down, where are all these
poor unemployed dislock is going to go?

Speaker 9 (25:58):
Well, that's the thing. They're going to have to be rehomed.

Speaker 18 (26:00):
And there's the government is anticipating and estimated about two
nine hundred racing greyhounds in New Zealand will have to
be taken into some loving homes because of this announcement.
So he did say that some would be going overseas
as well, but the vast majority would stay in New Zealand.
So if you're looking for a new very friend, there's

(26:20):
going to be a lot of them on the market
coming up soon, so he's going to be working with
the SPCA and other animal charities to make sure they're
all rehomed.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yeah, do you think Winston will get quite a better
pushback on this? Jason, he's been a champion of the
racing industry as a whole for some time.

Speaker 9 (26:34):
He has, but his hands were somewhat tired.

Speaker 18 (26:36):
I mean, he made the point right at the beginning
that there had been three reports into greyhound racing that
essentially all came to the same conclusion that it was
dangerous for the dogs and it was unnecessary, and he
said that this is essentially the right thing to do.
One of the questions I had was is horse racing next?
And that's what I asked Winston today.

Speaker 19 (26:54):
In the horse racing industry, both of the TOTS and
the gulps, we have a fund and we had in
this industry as well to improve amenities to make racing safer.

Speaker 18 (27:02):
So essentially he said that the horse racing industry is
actually a lot safer for various different reasons.

Speaker 9 (27:08):
That is not on the government's radar. But however, I
had to eat a little.

Speaker 18 (27:12):
Bit of a humble pie, and how I should have
learned a lesson right now, but that I've been here
for about almost ten years. That Winston is always ready
to make you look a fool. When I asked what
the difference in terms of the legislation and the specifications
were between horse racing and dog racing, never listened. Would
you mind describing just a bit of the difference between
horse racing and greenhoud racing in terms of the safety

(27:33):
aspect of it?

Speaker 9 (27:34):
Why are it okay for horses.

Speaker 5 (27:35):
But not great us?

Speaker 19 (27:36):
Well, they're different animals. Had you noticed that they're totally
different animals?

Speaker 13 (27:41):
Mate?

Speaker 2 (27:42):
He is always ready with a quiver.

Speaker 18 (27:43):
So I thought that I had asked a really ambiguous question,
But listening back, I thought it was pretty specific.

Speaker 9 (27:49):
So no, if you're listening, if you're a fan of.

Speaker 18 (27:51):
The ponies and you're listening to this, the government has
no plans to kibosh that industry.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yeah, although I mean, is it going to plicate the
animal safety people or embolden them? And then they'll come
for the ponies next? That's the question, isn't it.

Speaker 18 (28:03):
Well, I mean I think that this would embolden them
in terms of to come after the horses.

Speaker 9 (28:08):
Yes, next, But you know, we've already.

Speaker 18 (28:10):
I mean Steve Abel from the Green Party was actually
at the press conference sitting at the back, and the
Greens came out relatively quickly with a very press release
full of praise for the government for doing this one.
So you know, the people will be appeased for now.
And I think it's probably something that a lot of
the animal rates activists. I don't think anybody would look
at them and think it the right time to be
saying good now this one. I think they should probably

(28:32):
just take the time to say this is something that
should have happened for a long time, and I'm glad
the government's moving on it.

Speaker 5 (28:36):
Well.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
I hope all those greyhounds find a home. I know
the Simpson's had a lot of luck with Senna's little helper.

Speaker 8 (28:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
Great dogs. Yeah, Jason, thank you very much mate. It's
a very interesting development and we look forward to more.

Speaker 9 (28:49):
Thanks guys. I'll talk to you a bit later with
when you use brakes.

Speaker 20 (28:52):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
That is our political editor, Jason Wolves right. Going back
to dash cams, and this is on the bank of
a story in the New Zealand Herald at dash cam
footage of some pretty bad behavior on a South Island Road.
But the wider question we're put to you is if
you've got a dash cam, why do you have the
dash cam? How much did it cost, what was the
set up like, and has it saved you if there's

(29:14):
been some bad behavior on the road that wasn't your fault.
Oh eight hundred and eighty teen eighty is the number
to call Brian. You reckon. You've got to be careful
with the old dash cam.

Speaker 6 (29:23):
Yeah, very careful. What you say something the life going
away for a weekend and we're having a pretty conversation
about our plans for the weekend. Yeah, we're driving along
and we'd send until I stopped. This is something wrong

(29:44):
that's recalling everything we say? If we everybody putting because
of you and this and listening to that.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
Yeahs so just somedthing.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
You've got to be a war some Yeah, yeah, I'll
keep the keep the well. You know, I'm sure there's
nothing to be ashamed of, Brian.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Yeah, but allow talk in the car. Nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 13 (30:08):
I was probably probably never heard before.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
He might have been some good stuff, Brian.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
Thank you very much, mate. Go well. Oh one hundred
eighty ten eighty is the number to cool love to
hear from you if you've got a dash cam. Plenty
of teas coming through on nine two ninety two. Yet, hey, guys,
I've had a dash cam for six years and feel
so safe and empowered with it to record bad drivers
who could otherwise get off in a mishap from Mike, it'll.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Be interesting a question too that's come through on nine
two nine two. Are there any privacy issues around uploading
the content to social media because a lot of cash
dash cam owners and operators seem to be uploading their
footage because it certainly fills my feed, most of it
from overseas. And there was, of course that that famous

(30:57):
stuff I think was out of Russia with the comets
coming coming down. That was that was everywhere. But there's
a lot of dash cam footage out there. But I'm
pretty sure you can if it's happening out in the public,
it's fine, right, you're not filming an into one's house,
but it happens on the roads. I mean, you're looking
at it through your eyes recording it that way.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
So a true question if you know, But I think
you're right. If you're in public, you're allowed to film
a third party, aren't you and if you upload it
on to social media, so be it. The other question
is with the new cars coming out like the Tesla's,
I believe they do effectively have deash cams, don't they, right,
just just stand it, yeah, just standards as those new models.
I mean, I certainly don't have in mind new car,

(31:39):
but if you've got a car that was in built
with the dishcam, love to hear from you as well.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
Dave is questioning my analysis of the footage that kicked
this off that you can see in the Herald. Looks
like it's on the west coast of New Zealand somewhere
with a Campa van driving along. There's a dash cam behind,
and then another car undertakes in a very dangerous fashion.
I accuse the dash cam driver of tailgating. Hi, guys,

(32:03):
I just viewed the dashcam footage. The driver following isn't tailgating,
as he is using the two second rule. How do
you know that the only time he closes up is
because he sees the car behind closing in on him
from behind and he attempts to create space behind him.
Once the crazy driver passes on the inside, he goes
back to the two second rule, cheers Dave. Well, that's look, Dave,

(32:23):
I'm willing to I'm willing to go with you on
this one, but I think there's a very generous reading
of the situation.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
Look pretty close to me. Yeah, oh, one hundred eighty
ten eighty is the number to call. It is sixteen
to two.

Speaker 5 (32:37):
Matt Heath Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight hundred and.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Eighty Matt Eathen Tyler Adams afternoons news talks, they'd.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
Be thirteen to two. We're talking about dash cams and
plenty of ticks coming through if I.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Got a deesh cam. But we're just to show my
girlfriend crashing my car all the bloody time. That's from Dave. Really,
your girlfriend's regularly crashing your car?

Speaker 3 (32:57):
How many cars have you gone through or your girlfriend
gone through.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
I've definitely crashed my car more times than my girlfriend's
crashed here in the time we've been together. I believe
the police can take it as evidence against you. Check
it out though. That's from Bob. I mean, that's the thing.
But you know you want the truth out there, don't you.
That's the point of a dash cam. You have a
dash cam because you just want the truth out there.
You back it if you've done something wrong or you've

(33:22):
done something right, and you're the type of person that
believes you're generally going to be doing something right. But
I mean most of us want the truth out there.
That's the point of a dashcam. And if it's used
against you because you've been the person and the wrong,
then sure that's also a good thing. Wouldn't You would
have been honest anyway?

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Yeah, you should be a good driver regardless, But it
would make you a better driver, wouldn't it. Knowing that
that footage is being videoed at all time would make
your far safer driver, wouldn't it because you know that it's,
you know, recording everything.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah, And this is an interesting take on the Doggies
the Greyhound Band, the difference between the differences horses are
made to race, the dog races on its own instincts.
What a joke. Winston got support from the industry and
then crapped all over them. I mean that there is
some truth in that that the dogs they're chasing the
bunny yeahs being forced by the rider.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
Yeah, Colin, how are you?

Speaker 21 (34:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (34:18):
Good?

Speaker 22 (34:19):
Mere right?

Speaker 21 (34:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (34:20):
Got you? You're calling from Australia, are.

Speaker 13 (34:22):
You yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (34:24):
The I'm a Kiwi trucker over here doing the doing
the miles. I run Brisbanes of a Kai by three
or the two or three times a week, depending on
the run, so I'm knocking out between six and seven
week A lot of truck is we have. We have

(34:46):
the dash cans for our protection because everybody has a
crash involving a truck always reckons as the truck's fault.
But you know, you sit up here in the cab
and the stuff you see is just absolutely mind blowing.
I mean every trip, every single trip, you know, you're
sitting there sucking your breath and going, oh that was close,
you know. So it's a good way of protecting yourself,

(35:07):
you know.

Speaker 8 (35:08):
So.

Speaker 6 (35:09):
I mean, if you were one at fault, well that's
it there, you're in the in the vault. But you
have those And can I mention one of the most
dangerous things that I see on the road that people
just aren't aware of, And that's normally the passengers. You
get all these lovely young ladies sitting in the passenger
seat and they have their feet up on the dash right,

(35:30):
what's what's directly in front of on the dash an
air bag system, all right, so when they're if they
have a tender bender knows the tail and that air
bag explodes faster than the shotgun pillate goes off. What
do you think happens to their legs?

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Yeah, that's not gonna be good, is it.

Speaker 6 (35:49):
They have created some horrendous injuries and permanent injuries and
the cringes. I mean, I don't know what they're trying
to cool down by putting their feet up on the dash,
but or if it's just comfortable, I don't know. But
you know, that's probably one of the most dangerous things
I see as far as you know, and non it's
got actually a driving fault with a fault do you

(36:10):
see time and time again as all these young people
nice and supple and all that with their feed up
on the dash. But yeah, you certainly we've had this
area over here, the road that I drive on, the
Bridge Highway, in the last twelve months has been over
thirty two deaths. We've had three die four I think
actually three died in the last two weeks. Both accidents

(36:32):
involved a house that was moving. Now, how you can
drive past two pilot vehicles a police car and then
still hit a house beyond me cheap. But you know
you see some crazy driving, you really do. We're speed
limited to one hundred k speed limited a hundred caps
struck over here, but we're running twenty six meters sixty

(36:54):
four ton. You know we can't stop on a dime.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Hey, Colin, do you have with the footage that you
have captured where people are doing stupid things or dangerous
things or potentially accidents that don't involve you. Have you
ever afforded the footage on to authorities or anything like that?

Speaker 6 (37:15):
Not over here. I did once in New Zealand when
a young collar passed me with three or four of
his mates in the car, and I said to the
cops that must be Davey's car flac Audies four or five.
And they passed me on a on a bridge coming
out of Tamaranui, which has got a bend in it
you can't see around the corner. And they passed me
on WLO lines going over the bridge, just absolutely nailing

(37:39):
it in the wet you know, no regard for oncoming traffic.
And I actually took that the chipping and gave to
the cops. They followed it through and he was on
a restricted license. He should have had any passengers in
the car. Yeah, he got the big stars for that one.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
Yeah, I can imagine that.

Speaker 6 (37:58):
What happens when you get the rich Orkland just coming down.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
Yeah, I can imagine the insurance companies love it. I
mean if they, you know, there was a situation where
it was a reduced premiere, I'd love that.

Speaker 6 (38:10):
Oh yeah, no, definitely.

Speaker 23 (38:11):
No.

Speaker 6 (38:11):
We see stuff all the time, and guys, now I
don't bother posting it. It's always fun watching other people's stuff.
But nobody's immune. We all make mistakes, we all do
silly things, you know, every now and again, I mean,
believe or not not. Last night, I left McCay last
night at eight o'clock and over here at the moment
it's ten fifty three. I've got about an hour and

(38:32):
a half to go and I'll be finishing the park up.
But when I was heading up doors, I came coming
down what they call a big dipper north of Gingin,
and just as I flipped me lights up, after the
trucking gone pass, I said him it, holy heck, what
was that? And it was actually two coppers standing on
the side of the road. Right on the fog line

(38:53):
in the pitch black. No hovers, no car, no lights,
no nothing. You know what they were doing? What they
were standing there with his head drop, Well we call
them a head drive. They were standing there with a
canheld radar trying to traffic trucks coming downhill all over
speeding cheapers.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Yeah, I mean it says it all Colin. Thank you
very much mate. It is seven to two.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
Matteeth Taylor Adams seeking your calls on oh eight hundred
eighty eight Matteeth and Tyler Adams afternoons news talks, they'd.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
Be four to two.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Have got an apology to make to Dave who texted
before about that herald footage with the three vehicles and
the underpassing. I said that the guy was tailgating, But
Dave has done the counting around a post and he's right.
The guy was following the two second roll behind the
camp of van.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
He got you there.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Well yeah, yeah, so look credit we credits you, Dave.

Speaker 5 (39:43):
You were right.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
I was wrong.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
Yeah, you got your kudos. Very good. Right after two o'clock,
let's have a chat about weddings. Those in the winning
industry are a bit nervous because people are cutting costs,
but we want to have a chat to you about
how do you cut costs or how did you cut
costs in your own wedding?

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Or should you cut costs in a wedding?

Speaker 6 (39:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Is it important to splash cash around a show? How
much you love the person you're marrying?

Speaker 3 (40:04):
Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Nine two nine two is the text number. Love to
hear from you. You listen to Matt and Tyler, Good
afternoon to you catching in soon.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Your new home for instateful and Entertaining talk. It's Matt
Heath and Tyner Adams afternoons on Youth Talk.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
Sebby, good afternoon, Welcome back into the show. Seven past.
I hope you're having a great Shuesday, and I think
this is going to be a great conversation weddings. So
the economic downturn has taken a toll on the wedding industry,
with fewer booking, smaller guest lists, and people ditching luxury
luxuries like flowers and hairstylists. Some are of a court

(40:43):
of course his wedding season in New Zealand, but celebrants,
wedding planners caterers and the like say, business is as
hard as it's ever been this.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Year, particularly hard in Hawks Bay. I understand, yeah, where
bookings are down and down and down.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
So Greg Miller runs the restaurant on the Linden Estate
Winery in Esque Valley and the Hawks being in said
he's never had a season quite like it. I quote,
normally I would have done ted winnings by now from
August on, but I haven't done one yet. My first
weddings not until January. I've lost like a whole year
and a half of weddings, so particularly hard in Hawk's Bay.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
But be I was doing some sometimes, he was doing Friday,
Saturday and Sunday weddings.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
Yeah. Yeah, giving them through, getting them through absolutely. But
the question you want to put to you is, if
you've got a wedding coming up of your you've recently
had a wedding, have you tried to cut down costs
the days of the wedding planner? And a lot of
people use a wedding planner. They are, you know, very
handy if you're trying to set up a wedding. But
I do wonder now with the cost of living situation

(41:43):
and people trying to save money where they can. Is
then an expense that they're no longer willing to pay
j Loo j Loo to plan your wedding.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Yeah, it wasn't Jaylo the wedding planner. Yeah, so yeah,
so expensive weddings. How do you do a less expensive wedding?
And do you need to spend a lot of money
to do a wedding?

Speaker 4 (42:01):
Justice?

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Is that part of it? Is it important? It's an
important day? So it is a bad sign if you
don't bankrupt yourself doing it. In terms of the love
of the relationship, because arguably a wedding traditionally as you
get together and it's such a big do and everyone's
there that it has to last. It's a commitment you're
going on. We've set our vows in front of all

(42:23):
these people. We've put this big do on, so we're
going look pretty stupid if this doesn't work out, right, Yeah,
that's the essential traditional idea. You know, you go, you know,
and you know before you know, not the case with
everyone now, but it used to be before God and
your family and everything, you said, this is going to
work and you have.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
For a whole lot of cash at it, you certainly
do but but.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
Does it have to be expensive? Does it mean the
same thing if you just get a few people together,
a few trestle tables, have some sausage rolls out, get
a couple of crates, bear and you know, wander up
a mode strip on your lawn.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
What would be your thoughts on I just went thinking
about that, and I you know, I've said on the
show before that my partner May and I we've been
together for a long time, and I get a lot
of grief about it, but we will get married at
some stage. And I was always a bit of a
grinch about the amounts that I was going to see
in on a.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Whe're cheap about absolutely everything.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
I know it's because I don't like spending money. I
like just put in it away, like Scrooge mc duck,
so I can have my little pool full of money
at some stage. But the more that I think about it,
it is I like the idea of a big party,
and if I can afford it, and if we can
afford it, I'd like to go all out as much
as we can. And I don't know how much I'm
talking here, but I wouldn't want to go the no

(43:42):
frills begin.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
I'll start giving you some numbers here, yeah, Tyler. Ten thousand, yep,
twenty thousand.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
Getting closer, But thirty thousands that would be where i'd
starts some things.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
Not about forty thousands your limit.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
Forty forty thousands a limit, yeap. At that stage, then
the flowers are going no winning planner. I think we
bring it back out the saucy rolls.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
I thought you loved me.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
I that's interesting to bring your own food. Oh eight,
one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the call. How
do you save money on your wedding? A couple of
teas coming through.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
So this is to you, Tyler, Tyler weddings, It's not
to me. We were married in February twenty twenty four
and we had a fabulous day. No sit down for
just a pizza truck called Stumpy's. I did get a
professional photographer, so worth it chilled venue at a Howard
historical village.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
That's from Joe Nice Stumpy sounds like a good time,
good pizza truck. Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten
eighty is the number to call. Nine two ninety two
is the text number. It is eleven past two.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
Your new home of Afternoon Tour and Heathen Tyler Adams
Afternoon Call.

Speaker 5 (44:45):
Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty news Talk said.

Speaker 17 (44:48):
Be.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Fourteen past two. How do you save money for a wedding?
A lot of people are trying to cut costs where
they can this wedding season. Hey your donna, Hey have
a go Yeah goods good. So you had a couple
of weddings in the family recently.

Speaker 4 (45:02):
Work was it?

Speaker 21 (45:05):
We had one of ten years ago, once for you ago,
and we've got two more coming up, one of February,
one on October.

Speaker 13 (45:14):
All fumes.

Speaker 21 (45:16):
And we contribute, you know some to it. But my
line of those sons three years ago cost sixty thousand
for his wedding, and the ones that are getting man
made next year, they're looking at about thirty but cutting
it down to like eighty people and finding places that
have got a lot cheaper. But it has got so
expensive the whole wedding industry, like five grand to get

(45:37):
photography inn you know, the forest is super expensive. It
all adds, So I understand why people are cutting back
in this economy because it is a very expensive thing
to do. We did our youngest sons about ten years
ago we did it in the school, in our community hall.
We got in the roast company, did ever red thing ourselves.

(46:00):
You know, I've showed table covers and it costs about
twelve grand. But you can't give away with that now.

Speaker 24 (46:07):
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Hey, so, Donna, of these did have you got four kids?
Is that that that the situation?

Speaker 21 (46:13):
No, I've got one for the second time.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
Okay, so how do you that's interesting how much money
you put into the second one, that's a whole different,
different discussion. So when you you say that you put
some money into it as parents, is that is that
negotiated with them? Or have you got a set amount
of money you give to your kids for the wedding.

Speaker 21 (46:36):
We've got them more about the same amounts and we'll
give them. I don't want to say. You know, we've
go too with the other.

Speaker 25 (46:43):
Parents in them.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
Oh yeah, yeah, and so and so so the kids
that that went for a cheaper wedding, that's what they wanted.
The kid, the kid and their partner that went for
the cheaper wedding, that's what they wanted to do.

Speaker 21 (46:59):
What was affordable at the time.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Okay, yeah, and so you say the most expensive one
you've been involved in was sixty thousand?

Speaker 8 (47:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 21 (47:11):
Yeah, I mean it was a very nice place.

Speaker 12 (47:15):
Yeo carry boom rock.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
But you know, was that the one that has that
one lasted?

Speaker 5 (47:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (47:22):
Money well spent.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
Is there a correlation between spending sixty thousand on the
wedding and shoring up the shoring up the relationship?

Speaker 5 (47:32):
No?

Speaker 21 (47:32):
I think it's about the age of Mary too young.

Speaker 26 (47:35):
Ah.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
Yeah, yeah, So you're a bit of an expert on
this dinner by the sounds of it. What what do
you reckon? Would be mid range for you know, somewhat
decent wedding that you've got a nice place, that you've
got food for everybody, that you've got the photographer. What
are we looking at now in twenty twenty four?

Speaker 21 (47:52):
Probably about thirty five for a three level place.

Speaker 4 (47:56):
Yeah but.

Speaker 21 (47:59):
Sorry, certain always that's right.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
So the disk came going off.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
Yeah, yeah, it's kind of like a facts machine.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
Thirty five though. That's up there, isn't it, donnie?

Speaker 14 (48:14):
You know?

Speaker 3 (48:14):
For because a lot of couple that are getting married,
it's probably at a time where they might want to
get into a house, or they've got a big mortgage,
or they're just starting to have children. So the cost
are piling up then to chuck thirty five k on
one day, and I know it's an important day, but
that's a lot of cash, it is.

Speaker 21 (48:33):
And people are doing stuff now like getting pizza trucks
and hiring halls or doing it outdoors, and there are
other ways of doing it. But I think that's why
the industry, I think is finally hard because it has
been incredibly expensive.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
And Donna, do you give any money to the honeymoon
on top of the money that you give to the
actual wedding?

Speaker 21 (48:55):
We did, won't, won't do?

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Was that the one that didn't last?

Speaker 3 (49:04):
Donna, You're great, thank you very much. Ide hundred is
the number to call a couple of techs coming through.
Getta guys, Easy as the pig on the spit plenty
of cold alcohol, spend the money on the honeymoon, easy
as Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
I mean, I mean that depends to you who you marrying, though,
doesn't it whether they're happy with that? That might be
your plan.

Speaker 4 (49:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Wedding tip mister Whippy for dessert cheap and a lot
of fun.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
I like this is text love mister Whippy. Oh e
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Speaker 1 (50:40):
Matt Heathan Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty on News Talk ZB it.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
Is twenty two pasts two. We're talking about the best
ways to save money at your wedding. A lot of
people are doing it this wedding season, which is hurting
our wedding businesses or those businesses associated with the wedding industry. Glenn,
how are you this afternoon?

Speaker 5 (51:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (51:01):
Good good. I love your work.

Speaker 16 (51:04):
Matt Tyler, thank you, Macee.

Speaker 27 (51:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (51:07):
Look, I think there's three main things you need to
focus on for a wedding. One is the booze, the
second is the food, and the third's the music. When
it comes to the booze, we went through I think
it was Liquorland, and what you can do is essentially
whatever is not used, they will pay you back for it,
So you essentially take a chiller, fill it with grog.

(51:30):
At the end it's all telly. That was what wasn't
used and they'll pay you back for it. So for us,
I think we had about five grand budget for alcohol,
and in the end there was so little leftover that
we just decided to dish it out to all the
guests when they left, you.

Speaker 23 (51:49):
Know.

Speaker 16 (51:50):
And when it comes to food, I think the biggest
tip with that with the food is going to a
couple of weddings beforehand, trying trying different cater as, foods,
and even if you're going to do the food truck thing,
that's cool, but try and see if you can sample
the food beforehand. You can go cheap in that area.
But I think it's really important that if you've got

(52:11):
a good number of guests, gauge who's coming, see what
kind of food they're going to. Like, you can't cater
to everyone, you know, maybe see if someone's got like
a vegetarian option for the old vegetarian or vegan out there,
but make sure we've got good food for us as well.

Speaker 14 (52:29):
We looked into you know, like.

Speaker 16 (52:31):
The live bands. Love a live band, but the thing
we noticed with live bands is the music stops and
they need to take a break point and then what
happens is kind of the momentum of the party stops.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
The man to fire up as yuie boom oh.

Speaker 16 (52:48):
I'm pretty sure you could mate, but you can't always
trust the.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
That's right.

Speaker 16 (52:55):
So what we did instead we got two guys out
of Wellington, two DJs. And essentially what that means if
one needs to go to the loot, well the music
keeps going and cost wise looking at that, Yes, it's
two people, but a band, what are you paying four people?

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Yeah, you can get you can get those those you know,
a couple of dudes that turn in with a bit
of technology and throw it together as long as your
DJ can play Wagon, Wheel of Course.

Speaker 4 (53:21):
Or our song.

Speaker 16 (53:22):
And it's been a trend for a couple of their mates.
So Angel by Robert.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
Will I've noticed the thing that at a few weddings
I've been to over the few recent times. And look,
I might be speaking out of turn there, but on
a couple occasions there's been an uncle that's put up
his hand to provide the bears from his homebrew, and
I think you need to be really careful with that, certainly.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
Do you don't know how long that's been brillied.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Because an uncle can turn up with some pretty poor
own brew in my experience, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
One hundred and eighty ten eighty glens dropped off. And
thank you very much, mate. I love to hear how
you saved money. And if you do save money in
the wedding, is there the best strategy when it is
a day that is hopefully setting you up for the
rest of your life with your lovely wife or husband.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
We have HESITEXS on knowing two nine two. We had
the best wedding, approximately two hundred and fifty people, and
we had a BWAO reception. And it's interesting, isn't it
that you're expected to whine and dine in a bunch
of people at your wedding because you spend the whole
day just looking going, I spent that much on each
one of those plates and that person's not even eating it. Yeah,

(54:33):
Or that bottle of wine has been opened and there's
just there's just sitting on the table. I can't return that.
You know, it depends, It depends on how you look
at a wedding. I guess you just have to on
the day, except that you're getting absolutely runched by your
friends and family.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
Yeah, so you kind of hope it's cost neutral, that
you know, you don't ask for money, but everybody secretly hopes.
You know, when you have a wedding and you say,
we don't expect gifts, but if you'd like to contribute
to our honeymoon, here's an account that you put money in.
You're kind of hoping it's cost neutral, right that if
it's one hundred bucks ahead. The minimum that you wan't
good a hundred bucks. Everybody pays to a wedding.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
So you putting on a fifty thousand dollars wedding and
you're going to rinse your your guests for fifty thousand dollars.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
Good luck, buddy, Maureen. You reckon cheap and cheerful was
the way to go.

Speaker 10 (55:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (55:19):
Absolutely.

Speaker 15 (55:20):
We've had three in our family. And the first one
of forty people, it was eleven o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 8 (55:28):
And it was it was perfect.

Speaker 15 (55:30):
There was no stress.

Speaker 12 (55:31):
That was just easy.

Speaker 15 (55:32):
I think we all finished about five that afternoon. Second
one was the flashy one and very expensive. And the
third one, yep, that was great. That was a sort
of outside picnic here in New Zealand. But then we
traced over to England to do it all over again,
so it was rather but they did have a nice

(55:55):
cream truck.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
Oh good.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
Oh yeah. We've had a couple of suggestions for getting
mister Whippy involved. How come the second one was flash
Was that the choice of the child and their partner
that day it was imported to them to have a
flash one.

Speaker 8 (56:08):
Yes, it was, it was, it was, but you know,
it's not always the best way to go.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
Maureen, as a parent, are you are you putting how
much cash are you putting into these weddings?

Speaker 15 (56:20):
You know, we gave the meats the same We've still
got one to go, hopefully he does pushing chips on
the beat. But yeah, no, they all got the same amount.
So you know, we we were you know, allowed for
inflation and what have you. But yeah, and we certainly
didn't pay for the anymoon.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
This is a difficult question to answer, but do you
think the flashness of the wedding is it all related
to the seriousness of the relationship or the success of
the relationship.

Speaker 7 (56:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 15 (56:52):
I think it just depends on the people, you know.

Speaker 8 (56:54):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 15 (56:55):
I just think it's what some people want.

Speaker 8 (56:57):
The eldest was just very low key and it was
just easy.

Speaker 15 (57:03):
Yeah, I don't know, it's just and the second one,
you know, only daughter. Yeah, I can understand, you know
why they did it. No, no, keep keep too simple.

Speaker 8 (57:14):
We had finger food, we had cupcakes to start.

Speaker 4 (57:17):
With, and it was just it was just great.

Speaker 15 (57:20):
It was just really really relaxing and it was in
someone's backyard.

Speaker 8 (57:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Any disasters across all these weddings. You've been involved with
any major disasters that you want to share?

Speaker 8 (57:31):
No, no, the second, no, the third one.

Speaker 15 (57:35):
Noise control turned up at ten o'clock. But we were
in the red zone for goodness sake, no disasters.

Speaker 8 (57:43):
Everyone behaved.

Speaker 15 (57:45):
No incriminating photos, no, all good?

Speaker 3 (57:48):
Yeah good. And what about your own wedding, Maureene? Did
you bleash out for that when you got married?

Speaker 8 (57:53):
Oh yes, yes, no, that was that was quite a
bigger fear.

Speaker 15 (57:57):
But I was an only daughter. And what was at
the Avon Park? We had our reception beautiful, which is
now the George, one of the few hotels that's still standing.
So we go back each year and we must have
done something right because we've been married for forty six
years ago.

Speaker 5 (58:13):
Bless good on you.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
Congratulations always good to chat marine, Thank you very much.
All right, so yeah, oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty
is the number to call. How have you saved money
off your wedding? Plenty of people are trying to do
that this wedding season. And I'll tell you what. If
you're a celebrant or someone involved in the wedding industry,
love to hear from you as well. How is it
going out there and particularly from the celebrants point of view,

(58:38):
are you seeing less bookings this year or are you
still going gangbusters? Eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
Here's a text of nine two nine two. I'm married
a Taranniki dairy farmer's daughter. Her parents went all out,
didn't spare the horses, didn't cost me a cent. That's
the way to go. Okay, Well, I mean that's an
option for everyone, but it seems like it worked out
for you. Yeah, sign yourself any dairy farmer's daughter.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
Yeah, with rich parents, I had one hundred eighty ten
eighty is the number to call. It is bang on
bas too.

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Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Rayleen.

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
It is twenty six to three. We're talking about weddings.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
Yeah so the wedding industry is struggling with people spending
less and renting less wedding venues. Yeah so, how do
you do a cheap wedding? And is a wedding still
just as good as it's cheap? But Untitech's coming through
A nine two ninety two and full lines easy lads,
wife makes her own dress, local chapel, write your own vowels,

(01:00:46):
rallies bring a plate. Uncle does the photos. Cheapest chips,
Still happily married fifty years later.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
It's beautiful. Just on the writing your own vowels. What
can you hire someone to do that?

Speaker 16 (01:00:57):
That would be.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
The vowels that have been written by someone else? Mean meanything,
We mean old school blokes. Bring a crate, ladies, bring
a plate. Was cheapest chips and the best winning ever. Tyler.
What the hell is wrong with you with your forty
thousand k wedding Jesus from Tina?

Speaker 7 (01:01:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
Well I got led into that by heth over there. Yeah,
forty thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Sorry for some that can afford these forty thousand dollars weddings, Tyler,
and this one?

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
Yea, guys, I have a brother married three times. He
got a gift from me the first time. Each other wedding,
I went just for the piss up. No gift.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
Yeah, I mean there's the second and third. Weddings are interesting,
aren't they?

Speaker 14 (01:01:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
They're interesting. You're not giving the same level of gift
for the second and third?

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
Is that a good luck rather than congratulations?

Speaker 8 (01:01:42):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number of
call Hey you, Brenda?

Speaker 22 (01:01:46):
Hi, Hi, no, thank you for taking my call. I
just wanted to talk mention that I'm at the other
end of the scale. I'm not talking about my wedding.
This is a wedding of one of my family members,
which is only about three or four weeks ago.

Speaker 5 (01:02:04):
And they.

Speaker 22 (01:02:06):
Spoke to the both sets of pairs and me as
I'm the grandmother, and which was lovely, But they made
a decision after sitting down doing lists of who to invite.
It got ridiculous for both of them, and most of
their people did not live in the same city as

(01:02:27):
they live, so there would have been an awful lot
of traveling, and they wanted to do a honeymoon, and
they've got a huge mortgage, so they didn't have a
wedding as you might think of a wedding. They were
there was the partners the couple, a celebrant and a photographer,
and they spent the day doing outdoor activities.

Speaker 7 (01:02:50):
After they got.

Speaker 22 (01:02:50):
Married, they did lots of fun things as a couple,
just the two of them with no photos and nobody,
and then only one or two days after that they
went off on their honeymoon and they paid for everything themselves.
The wedding was hardly any money at all, as you

(01:03:12):
can imagine because it with no guests. Yeah, there with
no food, no drink, no wedding presents, no asking for
money for honeymoons, nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Yeah, I mean that's an option. But isn't the isn't
the idea of a wedding that you present your love
for another person in front of your friends and family.
Isn't that kind of Absolutely?

Speaker 22 (01:03:36):
But when you look at how many people like these
two have been together for two or three years established
themselves the people that matter in their world, that family
and friends know how committed they are to each other.
They don't have to prove it to the world. And
so everybody was like, wow, I wish I'd have thought

(01:03:59):
of that, you know some of their friends.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
But to me, that sounds like bliss them and I'm
pleased there and love and they had their beautiful day
from themselves. That sounds more like a datedding to me.

Speaker 22 (01:04:11):
Maybe it was then what matters to what I like?
And either say I'm the older generation. I've had two
of my own weddings in the past. I've seen my
children married and everyone's been happy and had a glorious day,
and a week or two later, the bride and the

(01:04:32):
groom have difficult to remembering what they said to each
other or to anybody else, because they were both slip
and stressed. But the whole day, especially the especially the bride.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
It seems you know, yeah, well, I've been to a
few weddings where I've struggled remember what I see it
and did.

Speaker 22 (01:04:48):
Exactly had nothing to do with I was very related,
and I think I think also that a lot of times,
as someone once said to me, weddings are not for
the couple. They're for everybody else that's invited.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
But there is something in there. It's like, as I say,
it's like you're showing your love to your family, Like Brenda,
don't they grandma like a bottle, like a glass of
bubbles and a feed.

Speaker 22 (01:05:12):
No, what they owe me is absolutely nothing. I'm like
a lot of people, and I'm not just talking about
Grandma's now, I'm talking about all generations with children or grandchildren.
We want them to be happy as long as you're happy.
And unfortunately a lot of people who say I just
want you to be happy, there are strings attached to it.

(01:05:35):
They're expectations. Well, well, of course you've got to invite
invite grandma or grandma or uncle or auntie or all
those other people that you've met once.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Like you invite you don't even know whether you invite
no people like these people in your family invited no people,
or you invite some people. There's always a line where
you're where you're not inviting someone.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
Yeah, that's.

Speaker 22 (01:06:01):
Eggs and that's where they got stuck.

Speaker 7 (01:06:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
Really, whether it's fifty one hundred or two hundred, there's
always a line.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
They must have had. Who do you leave out exactly?
Did they had some sort of barbecue after the fact,
Brenda to say, right, we're married, now nobody nobody was invited,
but we're having a barbie.

Speaker 22 (01:06:18):
No, no, nobody was there. They was just them and
they were at a venue, but it was a private
sort of a state if you like, where they paid
to have the facility there, which was like a cabin
or a tiny house or whatever you want to call them.

(01:06:38):
And they spent the night together and then off they
went to their honeymoon.

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
Brenda, thank you very much for bringing up you're a
lovely grandma. By the way. Interesting that to me is
pretty much a loping, isn't it If that you don't
invite anybody and you you pay next, and I think
you've got the celebrant there. That's just a loping, isn't.

Speaker 28 (01:06:59):
It do it?

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
I don't get it, Like why do it? Like good
on them because they're happy. I'm not not judging anyone,
but it just seems like you might as well just
sign the forms and it's just a sort of a
legal thing and then go go and have a day. Yeah,
but who knows. I don't know. I like a wedding.
A wedding's are fun, so I like to be invited
to a winning I always have a good time at
a winning So I like being a gain, you know,
not so much during the ceremony, but big van of

(01:07:24):
the reception. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. It is nineteen to.

Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
Three, your new home of afternoon talk and Heathen Taylor
Adams Afternoon Call.

Speaker 5 (01:07:35):
Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty News Talks.

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
They'd been sixteen to three. A heap of texts coming
through on the how to save money at weddings.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
Yeah, they're piling in as other phone calls. Eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty isn't holding a good booze up winning,
repaying your mates for all their weddings you went to.
The last couple probably went to heaps and they did
nothing for their mates. Nathan. Yeah, yeah, that couple they're
talking about. They just had their wedding on their own
with the celebrant and was just kind of a date.

(01:08:05):
They're happy.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
Yeah, they went go karting maybe, But I went to five.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
Other weddings and slammed some delicious food and guzzled the bubbles,
and then they go when it comes to their wedding.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
Now just the two of us, it's good points and
this one here akaday. Guys, I've got to hire a
company and deal with loads and loads of different clients
helping them celebrate their special moments. Weddings are a big
part of our business, and I always say to my
customers you have to look at the elements that celebrate
you as a couple and what you want people to enjoy.
Pinterest is amazing, but a lot of the photos on

(01:08:38):
it have had a lot of money spent on it,
and people forget the reality versus magazine images. My advice
when planning a wedding is have your top three options
in each.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
Category interesting, and this text says through a surprise wedding
on my husband's fifth yeth backyard borrow to Marquee spit
Roast company, plenty of drinks as night fowl. We all
sat around a bomb fire. Husband downloaded a ton of
music beforehand, hired some speakers which crackled. There is a
cheap wedding, and my husband and got me for his birthday.

(01:09:10):
All right, okay, okay, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:09:12):
Well that's nice to spit roast and some downloaded music
on the speakers. Good times, Azaria, How are you good?
How are you good? So you got married earlier this year?

Speaker 5 (01:09:22):
Yes?

Speaker 28 (01:09:22):
Yeah, so I got married in June and we did
a morning ceremony and a lunchtime reception, so we're all
finished up by four because we did at lunch time reception.
We didn't do any alcohol, so we had tearing coffee
and heaps of city drinks. And then we did bread
and salad and cold meats, the chicken from the supermarket
and then cold meat from from my parents that all

(01:09:43):
pre cooked, dished up, and it dessert. We did just
a cake and some slices for the glue wooden free people.
And I haven't heard anything from anyone about it being bad.
In fact, I've only heard good things.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
Did you go off anywhere else after four?

Speaker 8 (01:09:59):
Oh?

Speaker 28 (01:09:59):
Yes? So we went off and we just did like
a honeymoon, but it's like a couple up to Hamner,
so really chill.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
And so there was there was no alcohol all involved
in the wedding.

Speaker 28 (01:10:09):
No no alcohol and that really cut down our costs.
And then our reception hole. My dad is on the
Chruss board for the hole, so we got that for
really cheap and then we did it like a local church,
like a country church. That was like not much at all.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
And was it a very special day for you? Was
it one hundred?

Speaker 28 (01:10:28):
It's really special. It was really cool because we were
able to have like enough people there that felt like
we were celebrating, but it wasn't like we were catering
to other people's needs. So we just said what we
wanted to do.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
So if you don't mind sharing, how much do you
think that that cost? In total?

Speaker 28 (01:10:42):
That was about ten thousand, but all of that was
on my dress and my photographer Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
Yeah, yea yeah yeah, see she got some good.

Speaker 28 (01:10:49):
Packs to We didn't feel like we had to lose
out on it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
Yeah, and it's still it's.

Speaker 28 (01:10:56):
Been a fraction of what the average price for weddings are.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
So do you think you would have been happier if
you'd spend forty thousand dollars if you could have? No,
So you got everything you.

Speaker 28 (01:11:05):
Wanted, dressed, planning it, you got everything we wanted.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
Yeah, and did you miss some people cutting tracks on
the dance floor when they had two bottles of wine each?

Speaker 23 (01:11:15):
No?

Speaker 28 (01:11:15):
No, In the problem is that most of our families
are not into super dancing. So like we did the
first dance like a bridal party dancing, but like people
didn't actually want to dance, even just talking and wanted.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
I'm not normally into dancing till about four or five
years hours into the function.

Speaker 28 (01:11:34):
That's a good time, we would you that would be
the reality that people probably wouldn't dance. And they were like,
oh that's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
Yeah yeah, Well congratulations, it sounds like you had a
beautiful wedding and you're very happy and you didn't bankrupt yourself.
So well done.

Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
Yeah, thank you, thank you very much, Azariah. Love that. Darryl.
How are you man?

Speaker 13 (01:11:53):
Oh good? How are you good?

Speaker 5 (01:11:55):
Good?

Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
So the cheap a wedding and you reckon, you spent
that the money you were going to spend on the
wedding on something else.

Speaker 6 (01:12:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:12:02):
Well we got married twenty three years ago now, so
some Tomo in the UK. My wife's English, and we
had to have two weddings, one down this end of
the world, one in the UK. So money was an issue.
So in the UK we hired a place in bath
called the Assembly Rooms, which is just one room, just
for an hour. And then I hired a local restaurant

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and they already have a set menu, they had a
band already in place, and we just went there. And
so I think all up our wedding for the UK
was about three thousand pounds for forty fifty guests.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
That's not bad.

Speaker 13 (01:12:40):
And then I think from memory we've probably spent about
double that on our honeymoon. I think, so the way
it should be.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
Yeah, and how about your wedding back here in New Zealand.

Speaker 13 (01:12:51):
My parents dealt with that. That was a backyard wedding yep.
So now our job was just to get there.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:12:59):
Yeah, oh, I wouldn't want to say the UK one
was pretty good. That was that was the official wedding.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
Did you have a second honeymoon after the New Zealand one.

Speaker 13 (01:13:09):
No, no, just an ongoing honeymoon.

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
I think, and we just know that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
So you're still in the honeymoon period.

Speaker 13 (01:13:15):
Oh yeah, probably Yeah, twenty three years and going strong.

Speaker 5 (01:13:18):
So it's great love that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
Where'd you go for your honeymoon?

Speaker 13 (01:13:22):
As we left the UK went to Raratonga, first into Australia,
New Zealand and then Venati.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
Oh that's interesting because from the UK you could go
to the you know, the City of Love, Paris, You
can go to a lot of places. But you flew
the way down this way.

Speaker 28 (01:13:36):
We had to.

Speaker 13 (01:13:37):
Yeah, we had to come down this way. Got family
of Raratonga too, so it was a really good trip.
But yeah, I don't think you have to go over
the top. You have to. I think a lot of
people need to remember that the wedding's about you and
your your partner, not necessarily about everybody else. Yeah, you
do what you enjoy.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
Yeah, but you had people there because we're talking to
someone before that that that member of their family had
a wedding that was just the people getting married and
no one else. But I would have thought, and this
is maybe this is an old fashioned way of looking
at it. But that part of a we is getting
the people you know in the family around you to
make sort of a public statement about your love for
this person.

Speaker 13 (01:14:15):
Right, Yeah, that's right. I mean the UK wedding night
of any of my family and only my wife and
me and all of our friends. So it was only
fair to have something else down at the end of
the world. But yeah, it was an enjoyable time and
it went. Didn't have to break the bank.

Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
Yeah, yeap, love it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
Later on the twenty three years Darrel one done.

Speaker 3 (01:14:35):
Yeah. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
of call. How did you save money on your wedding?
A lot of people are trying to do that as
the wedding season kicks in to gear with the cost
of living.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
Here's a text how tight No alcohol. It doesn't have
to be champagne, but sparkling wine wouldn't kill you, which
is if you go if you went for a wedding
there was no alcohol at all, because because there was
there was an argument here and I might be wrong
here and people could push back on that. But people
just having to come along to your wedding to watch
you get married, is it a bit I don't know.

(01:15:08):
Wab be the wrong word, but narcissistic to expect people
to sit there without the reward of a meal and
some drinks.

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
I don't know is from the bride's point of view
that would take the streets off the best man saying something,
we're ridiculous when it comes to speeches. But if you've
had a dry wedding, love to hear from you as well. Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
It is nine to three, the issues that affect you
and a bit of fun along the way.

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons you for twenty twenty four.

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
You've talked said be six to three.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
He's a text on weddings on nine two nine two
only losers get married. When a man marries is with
is instantly reduced by fifty percent. Divorces more likely than
nine and half of your assets and money are gone.
It's more risky these days with social media. Wise men,
don't marry. What do you mean it's more risky these
days with social media?

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
What is it about?

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
Looks? Well, there's we've got Kimberly here.

Speaker 23 (01:16:01):
You're a wedding planner, Hey guys, Yes, I am from
Lucky in Love Weddings, and I created mini weddings which are.

Speaker 29 (01:16:12):
Effortless affordable and everything done for you. So couples could
have that beautiful, especic wedding day but still have everything
else that life offers without breaking the bank.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
Well good, So what are the prices start at? Can
believe you know it kind of feels a bit funny
talking about money, but that's the point of this convo.
So why do you start at? Could you do me?
Could you do me? A wedding for five grand?

Speaker 30 (01:16:41):
In fact, that is exactly around about where my price
points starts.

Speaker 31 (01:16:46):
Like my mini weddings start for ten guests, including the
bride and groom for five five hundred and twenty dollars and.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
An onion sausage or what do you get for that?

Speaker 30 (01:16:58):
No, I'll tell you everything that's included in that you'll
be actually very surprised.

Speaker 20 (01:17:06):
So that includes a gorgeous.

Speaker 30 (01:17:08):
Wedding venue in Auckland, which is a little white chapel,
very charming, only twenty minutes from Auckland's CBD. You'll also
get a marriage ceremony performed by me because I'm also
our marriage celebrate. Really, you will get a legendary party

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which includes a reception of finger food which is more
than substantial.

Speaker 25 (01:17:38):
You'll get a boogie Champagne found in which every wedding
has to have, as I'm concerned, a romantic wedding floral
to just add the elements of us style.

Speaker 3 (01:17:54):
He can believe.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
We've got to go because we've run out of time.
So how do people get hold of you if when
you're plan their wedding.

Speaker 31 (01:18:01):
Lucky in love wedding.

Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
Okay, it sounds like good value.

Speaker 9 (01:18:05):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
Is Champagne found and let's go and a half k?

Speaker 5 (01:18:09):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:18:09):
That has been a great conversation. But after three o'clock.

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
We're talking about shotgun etiquette.

Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
Oh wait, one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
Nine two nine two is the text number, News, Sport
and Weather on its way. You listening to Matt and Tyler, Good.

Speaker 10 (01:18:22):
Afternoon, talking with you all afternoon.

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
It's Matt Heathan Taylor Adams Afternoons you for twenty twenty
four News Talk said.

Speaker 3 (01:18:41):
Be good afternoon to you. Seven past three. Now, just
before we get into the next topic, we had a
fiery call from Bill who rang in during the news
break and he said, I want to talk about the greyhound.
So we decided to bring Bill into the mix and
let him say what he wants to say about the
greyhounds very shortly.

Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
Yeah, because with the Sinnispy Cross party support for the
greyhound ban, and we're only hearing one side of it,
so Bill's got the other side to it. You don't
think they should ban greyhound racing?

Speaker 12 (01:19:09):
No, As I said, how many greyhounds get killed a year?

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
Well, I understand I could be wrong, but off the
top of my head, I believe that thirty one greyhound
sev been euthanized because of injuries from greyhound racing since
September twenty one. That's just off the top of my head.

Speaker 12 (01:19:26):
Okay, Well, how many people get killed in cars? Are here?
Are they going to ban them?

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
Yeah, there's a lot more people get killed in cars.
I mean that is always the question. That is always
the question, isn't it?

Speaker 14 (01:19:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
But I guess yeah, it's a tough one, isn't it.
Because Winston Peters, who's the persons that sort of seems
to be spearheading this band. He's very supportive of the
horse racing industry, So it is interesting that that he's
the one that has seen it as being cruel, and
he said he thinks it's the right thing to do.
Do you think that's wrong, that there's not a moral

(01:19:58):
reason to do it, to ban it?

Speaker 12 (01:20:00):
Well, I used to be a jockey and I wouldn't
have tools and races horses have got injured and been
put down. So what's the difference between people getting killed
in the car and dogs getting killed down?

Speaker 3 (01:20:14):
Well, just from my point of view, Bill, is that
the dogs don't have a choice in the matter, that
they're racing for entertainment and look some in the industry
would argue that they're very well looked after. Winston Peters
doesn't think that's the case all the time. And I think,
just going on what he said to reporters and in
the press release, he made it quite clear that the
greyhound industry was given a warning that things weren't up

(01:20:36):
to scratch and unless they do better, then some changes
are going to happen, and unfortunately they haven't seen those changes,
which is different to horse racing. Right as your no Bill,
there was some welfare changes asked of the horse racing
industry and they did that, and the horse racing industry
will be safe.

Speaker 27 (01:20:53):
Yeah, but like a lot of the tracks now, like
well they've got what they call a straight straight tracks say,
they're not running into each other and knocking each other over.
But we're still allowed to get out on the road
and somebody hit us all my appamily. Nothing's done about that?

Speaker 2 (01:21:12):
Well sorry, sorry, did you say that that that has
happened or it could happen.

Speaker 12 (01:21:16):
No, it does happen.

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
Yeah, it does happen. Yeah, And that's a fair point, Bill,
because you say that the greyhounds don't have a choice,
that the people that get hit by someone crossing the
other side of the road don't have a choice, do
they either?

Speaker 8 (01:21:29):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
Yeah, And it will be interesting because because you say
that the horse racing is safe now, but do you
think that that's going to be the case that the
people that have campaigned for greyhound racing to go down?
I know the Green Party have been very vocal in
their their they're dislike of greyhound racing. Do you think
they're going to stop and feel that that's enough, that
they've gone far enough, or do you think they're going

(01:21:50):
to go for the horse racing next.

Speaker 3 (01:21:52):
That's a good question. I'm sure the Green party will
go for the horse racing industry. But I don't think
was Winston Peters as Minister of Racing. I mean, there'd
be no more that job would be gone for him,
wouldn't it if he got rid of the horses. But
I generally think and look, there's there's people who are
in the industry that know far more than I do
about this situation. But as I understand it, the horse
racing industry was given a warning and a serve to
say that you need to up your game with how

(01:22:13):
often you use the whips, how you look after the horses.
They did all of those things. The greyhound industry were
told to do the same thing, and they didn't. So
that is why we're now facing a band of the
greyhound industry. That is my understanding of it. And that's
fair enough. If you were told as an industry as
a whole that there's far too many dogs that have
been caught, they.

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
Did a bit to sort it out.

Speaker 3 (01:22:37):
Yeah, now, no, that's fair And this would be a
case of a few bad apples that didn't play play
the game and now have ruined it.

Speaker 13 (01:22:43):
For the whole.

Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
I think it's a case of when he throwing the
dogs like meat, to plicate the rabid animal safety people
to protect the ponies. So he because he loves the horse,
he loves the horse racing, right, yeah, So he goes, well,
look this is there's a lot of pressure around here.
There's a lot going on. If I just throw the

(01:23:04):
greyhounds under a bus, then then that'll keep keep certain
people at a bay bay so we can keep the
horses going.

Speaker 3 (01:23:12):
Not a bad strategy.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
Could there's wild speculation from me, but it could be
the case. Hey, thank you so much for you call Bill.

Speaker 3 (01:23:18):
Yeah, I mean it is an interesting one, isn't it.
That I know there's a lot of fans of racing
as a whole and in the industry. And look, I've
got some friends who primarily they're in the horse racing industry,
but they are pretty hot on greyhounds that the people
they know who operate the greyhounds love those dogs like
family members. So for those people in this industry that

(01:23:39):
see that, you know that professionalism and greyhound racing and
then to have the whole lot banned because there are
some bad apples in this industry, I can keep why
people would be pretty aggrieved by that. A few ticks
coming through on this one as well.

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
How many dogs do the SPCA euthanize comparing to the
figures you just mentioned. Crazy, let's ban the horses too. Yeah,
So I mean that's a bit of a tough one
in the SPCA because they don't want to euthanize any dogs.

Speaker 3 (01:24:07):
Yeah, and as far as I know, because I mean
this was the case eighteen months ago, and I'm sure
nothing's changed that. The SPCA is often asked about the
racing industry, and from an EASTPCA point of view is
that they are far more okay with the horse racing
industry because of those changes made around the whips being used.
They've never been okay with the greyhound industry.

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
To that, Gentleman's points says, this text about cars, dangers, driving, speeding, drink,
driving while using your phone are all banned and this
is what killed people. Yeah. What I'd be interested about
this whole greyhound issue is what happens to these greyhounds
as well, which is the side issue. So they're going
to bring a new legislation I understand to say that
these these dogs, now that they don't have active employent employment,

(01:24:52):
can't just be euthanase. So they have to find houses
for how many is it two and a half three thousand?
I'm not sure. I think I think the numbers around
two and a half thousand dogs in the industry and.

Speaker 3 (01:25:02):
Usually two eight hundred was the numbers.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
I so that's a lot of two eight hundred dogs
they have to find and a home for them. Yeah,
when you know the SPCA aforementioned to trying to find
homes for a lot of dogs already. And what are
greyhound's like as X races like dogs. I mean, my
only knowledge in this area is from the Simpsons and
sends Little.

Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
Helper, great dog, good dog, very very wow.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
Has his problems actually, to be fair, but you know
that doesn't really add much to the conversation. But yeah,
what's what's the deal with finding a place for two
thy eight hundred greyhounds? I mean, it would be a
pretty interesting situation where they end up having to euthanase
a bunch to them just to supposedly save them.

Speaker 3 (01:25:42):
It's going to be really difficult rehoming those greyhounds. We've
got a greyhound cross. She's never been a racing dog,
but because the fact that she's part greyhound, had a
lot of chat to to owners of former racing dogs,
and they say it is particularly difficult because you can't
have them around small dogs. They think it's the punny
and they try and chase that, particularly the white dogs,
so they are quite difficult to rehome. But yeah, right,

(01:26:03):
if you have rehomed a former racing greyhound, love to
hear from your nine hundred eighty to ten eighty. It
is plenty of texts coming through on nine two ninety
two as well. It is fourteen pasts three seventeen past three. Well,
we've got into a discussion about the ban on greyhound
racing in New Zealand's.

Speaker 2 (01:26:21):
Yeah, it's coming in in twenty months. I believe Whinston
Peter's announced it today. Lots of texts coming through and
full lines on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. But
still give us a ring because we'll find a place
for you. Bugger that guy Bill as someone who sees
they're behind the scenes of greyhound racing, it is bloody rough.
The conditions that these dogs are kept in is just awful,

(01:26:41):
and the dogs flinch when you go to pat them
as the breeders abuse them. According to this text, the
best news I've heard in a while as the whole
industry is crup behind the scenes. There is also plenty
of rehoming facilities around the country too. For your information,
there you go. Thank you for that text.

Speaker 3 (01:26:55):
Yeah, thank you very much. And if you're in the industry,
love to hear from you. Why is there a big
difference between supposedly greyhounds and horse racing. If you're in
the industry, give us a buzz.

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
Yeah, someone here says, is Winston actually covering up for
creating a monopoly for the tab with the entained deal?
H interesting, spicy, spicy conspiracy theory coming through that.

Speaker 3 (01:27:17):
We had some good shod on that yesterday, didn't we.
But Dean, you're a punter, yeah, mate.

Speaker 14 (01:27:23):
But my point about the dogs is this. You know,
you've got all these people saying that we want the
welfare of the dogs and all the rest of it,
but they haven't taken into account, as you just did
this before, that hundreds of dogs are breed every year
for racing. You've been it. All of that doesn't happen anymore,
so no more dogs getting breeds for racing. So you're

(01:27:43):
wiping out hundreds of thousands of not thousands of dogs.
Would you say you love also all the dogs that
are racing. Now, if you think you're going to home
all them, you're dreaming. Quite a few of them will
have to be put down. And you love dogs. So look,
as far as I can see, it's it's a nonsense.
There's all the people that are employed in this industry.

(01:28:05):
There's the trainers, the that people who make the food,
that people who take it there, the tracks, the staff
that is a whole heap of staff as well. So
all I see, there's a no brainer. If I watched them,
my punt them. They love going to the races, those
things they chase their thing, well, there's no tomorrow. They jump,
numb them down, they can't wait to get in there.

(01:28:27):
And I've been involved in some people who owned them,
who own them and they treat them like gold. So
I don't know about where these other people get that
information from. Because the ones I see get petters and groom,
the best food everything. So there's you know, I don't know.
I totally disagree with it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
Now, Dean with with with what is it about greyhound
racing that you prefer in terms of as a punter, Well.

Speaker 14 (01:28:54):
I don't prefer it, but I enjoy I enjoy it
because it's to me, it's fast and it's quick, and
it's reasonably harmless or so I don't stop. But I
don't see it as an issue at all. I like
watching it, Yeah, because I like watching the dogs because
I like dogs.

Speaker 2 (01:29:11):
Okay, cool, Well, thank you so much for you cool Dean,
thanks for your input.

Speaker 3 (01:29:15):
Yep, thank you very much. Sarah. How are you You've
adopted many x rasing greyhounds.

Speaker 8 (01:29:22):
Hi.

Speaker 32 (01:29:22):
Yes, I've actually just helped my first greyhounds yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:29:26):
Wow.

Speaker 32 (01:29:27):
I've currently got two, and I just want to say
they have been most amazing pets. And it worries me
that so many of them take a long time to
find home. So I worried that with the band, they'll
be flooded with dogs that can't find homes. And so
from my perspective, the dogs that I've had, five of them, wow,

(01:29:48):
have all been well treated, the lovely pets. Some of
them are shy that they've all been some of them
have just been such people dogs, but they've clearly been
treated really well. Some of my greyhounds have raised and
won twenty thousand dollars. Others of my second most recent
adopted greyhounds was unraced because she didn't want to do it.
Lady retired her at one years and you know, never

(01:30:11):
even got to trial, so they spade her and didn't
even try trialing her. So I got her quite young.
I also work as a vetnory physio, and I work
both in the small animal and the equine world. So
I walked to a lot of race horses and some
race and grace excuse me, race and greyhounds. So I

(01:30:32):
guess I see it from this perspective that if people
want me to do for the old their dogs or horses,
they really value them. But the people I've met in
the industry absolutely love their animals, and so the greyhound trainers,
which we're obviously talking about, so they I've had dozens
of messages from friends and clients telling me about you
guys talking about it on the radio and news.

Speaker 3 (01:30:53):
But the greyhounds, Oh, well, we're just losing you there.
Sarah just stepped to the left or right, and hopefully
we get you back. In fact, just told they're we're
gonna play some messages and hopefully we'll come back to
Sarah very shortly.

Speaker 2 (01:31:07):
Because of a lot of questions for you that's interesting,
Cal thank you for that. Hopefully we can get Sarah.

Speaker 3 (01:31:11):
Back absolutely if you want to jump in on this
conversation as well. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
is the number to call. It's twenty two past.

Speaker 1 (01:31:17):
Three matd Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty on News Talk ZV.

Speaker 2 (01:31:28):
So we've got Sarah back to talk about greyhounds. Of course,
Winston Peters has announced that greyhound racing is going to
be banned in New Zealand in twenty months. Sarah, So
you've adopted five X racing greyhounds are you? How did
you start adopting X racing greyhounds?

Speaker 22 (01:31:45):
Oh?

Speaker 24 (01:31:45):
Well, I've been working in the UK and I shared
a dog with my house note over there who was
a lurcher and the dog not the house mate. And
when I came back to New Zealand, I really wanted
a lurcher, which is a greyhound cross and we could
really get them here apart from more like the big
dogs type breeds yep. And so I thought, well there's
lots of greyhounds, it's racing greyhounds that need homes. In

(01:32:08):
my first ex racing greyhound was one of the most
amazing dogs I've ever had and had a massive impact
on all the people that she met. Lots of people
adopted greyhounds after meeting her, and she was a very
successful racing dog. She raced for a couple of years.
I think she went about twenty thousand. But you know,
I've had her handler from the racers contact me. You know,

(01:32:30):
I bumped into her trainer once, completely randomly, and immediately
he said, oh, you've got our Princess Rosie. You know,
how is she? I mean that was five years or
so after I had adopted her. So that showed me
the level of sort of depth of care that they
had for their dogs. But I know in every industry
there's always a mixed bag and there's always going to
be bad apples. Like you were saying earlier, you know,

(01:32:52):
with the last caller.

Speaker 2 (01:32:54):
Yeah, well, well I hope other people listen because there's
a lot of greyhounds about to be needing houses. So
it's good to get from me, Siah that that they
can be great dogs to own.

Speaker 24 (01:33:04):
They're amazing, They're amazing, and I just think the first
thing they should have done temp is limit the breeding
numbers and try and get the population down and then
phase it out. You know, I think that would have
been a better approach, because that's my biggest concern is
that there won't be enough homes. They already you know,
there's already lots of greyhounds sitting and rehoming programs waiting

(01:33:25):
months to be adopted, and then still dogs sitting with
trainers that are retires that they can't get into the program.

Speaker 3 (01:33:32):
Do you need to read a bit of a backlog?
Do you need to know what you're doing if you're
looking to rehomer an ex racing greyhound. I just say
that because I've heard them, and please myth Bustard if
it is a myth that some of the racing dogs
can be a bit diabolical around cats and around smaller dogs,
because that's what they're trained to do, is chase those things.

Speaker 8 (01:33:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (01:33:51):
So the great thing is the rehoming programs do assess
each greyhound that comes through and they determine if they're
suitable for rehoming, and then they'll give your heads up
as to whether they're cat trainable or not. But I've
trained all of my greyhounds to be fine with farminals
I live. Really they're out with chicken. My first greyhound
was fine with cats. My seconds too. I wouldn't have

(01:34:14):
completely trusted them, but they were not too bad. But
I never put them in that situation. And so my
current greyhound have just adopted yesterday. It'll be a process
of just getting her to be okay with my chickens.
But I guess it's like most dogs. I mean, my
parents have had a West Thailand white Terrian and she
would have absolutely gone for a cash or a chicken
have given half the chance. She just wasn't fast enough

(01:34:36):
to catch them. And I guess that's the problem, is
a greyhound is fast enough to catch match something, whereas
many dog breeds will go to small animals such as
rabbits or chickens or cats, but they just don't have
that speed. But I think they do do a really
great job of educating owners as to what it will take,
you know, what they need to be considerate of, and

(01:34:57):
they provide lots of help in support and resources for
owners to do that. So yeah, I think they do
a really good job of education and and making sure
that the greyhounds get to the right homes and the
owners have support.

Speaker 2 (01:35:12):
Yeah, Well, my dog Colin crossed the road to get
away from two cats the other day, so he's in
no danger of catching anything. He's got stumpy little legs. Now, Now,
Sarah with greyhounds, So do you think that you know,
you love these greyhounds and in your experience there have
been you know that the trainers that you've dealt with
to get your greyhounds have been have been really nice

(01:35:33):
to their dogs. You know, you thought they've treated them well.
But in the most recent twenty to twenty three to
twenty four season greyhound racing, New Zealand's Animal Welfare Reports
said nine dogs were euthanased because of injuries suffered during
a race. From seven the season before, two hundred and
twenty four dogs suffered serious injuries and a further six
hundred and seventy two had injuries classified as minor or
medium in the past season. So, as much as you

(01:35:55):
love the dogs and as much as they care about
the dogs, does it worry you at all the amount
of injuries that happen in greyhound racing? And if it does,
are you are you sad that the industry is being
shut down?

Speaker 24 (01:36:09):
I really mixed feelings actually a bit of both, because
I really do love the dogs and I and also
they do love to run, that's for sure. But I
think there's a lot that we could have done. I'm
not directly in the industry, but I think there's a
lot the industry could have done to help limit the
the injuries. I know they have implemented some of it,
but you know, track design and where you know, with

(01:36:31):
with horse racing, you know, track design plays a big.

Speaker 28 (01:36:34):
Part in America.

Speaker 24 (01:36:36):
On with dirt racing, you know, there's a higher incidence
of injuries and thoroughbreds compared to on the turf, So
you know, corner you know, the corner angles, the canber,
all of those things. So you know, I think they're
probably that there's probably some lost opportunities there. But I
absolutely am not comfortable with, you know, animals being injured

(01:36:56):
in sport. And I would have been happy to have
also taken on a dog that had had an injury.

Speaker 8 (01:37:02):
I actually was.

Speaker 24 (01:37:03):
I offered to take a dog that had quite a
significant racing injury. That didn't work out, unfortunately, but I
was certainly willing to open my home to, you know,
to an X racing greyhound that had a racing injury.

Speaker 2 (01:37:15):
Yeah, because I've heard people talking about the idea of
just straight greyhound racing, so it's just in a straight line,
because a lot of the injuries come with the corner.

Speaker 24 (01:37:23):
Yes, on the corners. Yeah, that could have made a
huge difference potentially, but I guess it's a little harder.
Was trying to film it, and I don't know what
the limitations are. Maybe it's space or using existing space. Certainly,
from what I've seen, the majority of the injuries and incidents,
and sometimes there's plenty of incidents, but they don't always
come off with injuries, but it is often on those corners,

(01:37:46):
and I guess they don't have a jockey on board
to direct them. You know, they run how they want
to run and where they want to run.

Speaker 29 (01:37:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:37:54):
So, Sarah, a tough one you've you've had. You just
had got your fifth ex racing greyhound yesterday. There's about
two thousand and eight hundred of them about to become available.
Are you going to jump on another one or are
you going to get your syst.

Speaker 24 (01:38:08):
I'll be buying a lot of ticket and then if
I went, there'll be signs.

Speaker 2 (01:38:14):
Well, thank you so much for you call Sarah really
appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:38:17):
Thank you very much. Oh one hundred and eighty ten
eighty is the number to call critiques here. I've trained
two greyhounds. Both have said on my couch they have
very large kennels, easy as dogs to have at home.
That's from Steve. Keep those tacks coming through on nine
two niney two. It is twenty nine to four back.

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Speaker 3 (01:39:58):
Thank you very much. Rayleen. It is twenty five to four.

Speaker 2 (01:40:02):
So, as you've heard, Winston Peters announced that they're shutting
down greyhound racing in New Zealand over concerns for animal welfare.
I think it's got twenty months, am I right? Twenty
months to wrap up the industry.

Speaker 3 (01:40:14):
Yep, correct, And they got to rehome twenty eight hundred greyhounds.

Speaker 2 (01:40:17):
Yeah, well, Sarah's taken five of them, so can you
take five of them to your house. Let's get out
of the phones. Steve, what's your opinion on this greyhound
racing band?

Speaker 23 (01:40:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 26 (01:40:30):
Awesome call from Sarah. That was bloody, bloody excellent. I yeah,
I think it's a like to me, a greyhound's a
working dog, right, it does its job. It's bred to
do a job, and running is that job just that
happens that humans have made the money out of it
to see which one passes first. You know, the greyhound

(01:40:53):
in itself, he doesn't. He doesn't look to get hurt
or anything like that. It's just one of those things
that hey, it's doing his job. It's love, it's loving
doing what it's job. I do agree with some of
the trainers that you know, can be a bit dubious
and then and in that fact, then yeah, you've got
to come down on those guys. But if the dogs loved,
it's a happy dog, it loves what it's doing, then

(01:41:15):
I can't see any problem with, like, you know, having
that dog not doing what it loves doing. And also,
you know, if you want to go that far, then
you look like farm dogs, you look at like pig
hunting dogs. You know how many a farm dog just
because there's no stats to stay so many farm dogs
dyeing a farmer year, or so many hunting dogs dying,
then they'll be going, oh my god, you can't take

(01:41:37):
dogs pig hunting, but like they love.

Speaker 17 (01:41:39):
Doing what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:41:40):
You know, for example, Steve, police dogs, No one loves
dog the dog more than a police trainer, a police
dog trainer, or police dog wrangler, And yet they send
their dogs off into harm's way.

Speaker 13 (01:41:53):
That's right.

Speaker 26 (01:41:54):
And if the dogs happy and being loved and doing
what it loves doing, then I don't see what the
issue is. You know, are working dogs are working dog
and they're bred to do what they do, like you know, greyhounds.
I'm my god, you can't see much like a freaking
treat cheetah. You know, the bread to run and I
thing is what they love doing, So let them do

(01:42:14):
what they love.

Speaker 2 (01:42:15):
Yes, So nine dogs were euthanased because of injuries in
the twenty twenty three twenty twenty four season, and two
hundred and twenty four dogs suffered serious injuries, and further
six hundred and seventy two had injuries classified as minor
and medium. Is that is that too much for you?

Speaker 26 (01:42:33):
Steve will come come back to me with some farm
statistics about farm dogs and then I'll compare. You can't
just sort of say because of yess be doing that.
You know what I mean, it's got to be we've
got to throw a lot of things into the mix to.

Speaker 2 (01:42:46):
Make your decision and take take dogs pig dogs as well.

Speaker 26 (01:42:51):
Yeah mate, you know any working dog. You've got to
you've got to look at all those stats to make
a decision, not just pin point one, because if you're
pinpointing one, well then you're going to have to look
at all of them, you know what I mean. It's
not it's not fair that an industry is being shut
down because some people think, oh my god, the poor dogs.

Speaker 6 (01:43:09):
Yeah, but that dogs loving it.

Speaker 26 (01:43:12):
You know, if a dog dies, yeah, it's sad. You
know my dogs have died.

Speaker 13 (01:43:16):
I've got bull my eyes out.

Speaker 26 (01:43:18):
But the thing is the dogs had a good life
and it's I guess you can look at it. It's
like Denny Hole and he died rotor racing. He died loved.
What are you doing? Yeah, I mean, thinks a dog
if he dies on the racetrack, it's it died loved
what it was doing.

Speaker 2 (01:43:32):
Thank you so much for you call Steve. Here's another
here's a text on nine two nine two on a
similar vein. It's always heartbreaking to hear about instances of
animalist treatment in sports, and those responsible should certainly be
held accountable. However, it's important to remember that the vast
majority of people working in the industry animals are deeply
cherished and respected. For many, it's not just a job
but a livelihood that revolves around ensuring the animals well

(01:43:54):
bearing being. These animals often receive top tier care, with
access to the best veterinary services, health management, grooming and
equipment available. The love and care for these animals is evident,
and the efforts made to ensure that they remain healthy
and happy, often in an environment designed to keep them
in peak condition. Of course, there will always be a
few bad apples, but they are the exception, not the rule.

Speaker 3 (01:44:15):
And that's a fair point and a great text. But
if that was the case, Winston Peters has long been
a champion for the racing industry across the board, whether
that's horses or dogs. He has been the Minister of racing.
He's been the man for race and he loves it.
He's off and down at the at the track having
a week flutter.

Speaker 2 (01:44:32):
I've got a conspiracy theory here for you, Tyler. All right,
Perhaps the man that loves the horse racing so much.
Just perhaps I've got nothing to back this up, but
perhaps the man that loves the horse racing so much
doesn't love the competition for the dollar from the dish liquors.

Speaker 3 (01:44:50):
He's coming for your man. That's the Deputy Prime Minister.

Speaker 1 (01:44:53):
It is twenty to four, the issues that affect you
and a bit of fun along the way. Matt Heath
and Tyler Adams. Afternoons you for twenty twenty four, you talks, they'd.

Speaker 3 (01:45:04):
Be seventeen to four. We're talking about the banning of
greyhoun racing over the knee twenty months. It has come
as a shock to many in the industry.

Speaker 2 (01:45:12):
Yeah, and apparently they're finding out at the same time
that Whenston Peters was announcing it to the public, there
might be people in the industry. They're just finding out
about it right now as we say it this text
on nine two nine two. I'm guessing most good dogs
will go to Australia. That's an interesting idea that it
might not be that these greyhounds get adopted into households.

(01:45:32):
They might go over to race in Australia after the
dust settles. The New Zealand greyhound enthusiasts will go back
to the nineteen seventies racing for sweepstakes on private courses,
which will suit quite a few of these people. It
was great fun back then. Perhaps we will build a
few straight private tracks this time. Racing is in the
blood of these people and the dogs. Please remember these
animals run at forty miles per hour and accidents do happen.

Speaker 3 (01:45:52):
Good texts, Julie, how are you this afternoon?

Speaker 24 (01:45:56):
Good?

Speaker 33 (01:45:56):
Thank you.

Speaker 14 (01:45:57):
The USA.

Speaker 33 (01:45:59):
Out again a new Zealand wide program. It's called GAT,
It's called Greyhound's Pitch YEP and they take as many
greathounds as they can and keep them till they can
rehome them, and often on a Sunday market. I mean
on a Sunday they need a market at Rigson and
they take the dogs there that are looking for homes,

(01:46:21):
et cetera, et cetera. And they are absolutely beautiful dogs.
I've got two dogs are really not greyhounds. But if
I ever could have another one, I'd definitely go for
a greyhound, but it would have to be kept friendly.

Speaker 2 (01:46:36):
Julie, how many of so? If with the greyhound industry
shut down, there's two hundred two, eight hundred odd greyhounds
that are going to be without a job. How many
what's the capacity for gap? How many of those are
they going to be able to take on, do you think?

Speaker 33 (01:46:51):
I don't really know, but I did hear that they
said that they were going to send some over to
Australia and hopefully they could get red homed over there,
you know, as pets, not just as racing dogs.

Speaker 7 (01:47:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:47:03):
I mean it is a big job though, isn't it, Julie.
I'm just having to look at greyhounds as pets the
website and there's a beautiful greyhound called Fred that's looking
for a home at the moment. But adding another twenty
eight hundred greyhounds to the mix, it's gonna take a
lot to try and rehome them all.

Speaker 33 (01:47:20):
I'm sure. I'm sure once it got out there'd be
plenty of people that would offer a dog a home.
As I say, if I could have one, and I
can't have more than two dogs, if I could have one,
I'd have one and a heartbeat because he's just so beautiful.
I see them at the month Sunday market and I
used to have two little whippets, which are a smaller
addition to the greyhounds, And when I lost my last whippet.

(01:47:46):
I'd go to the Sunday Market and I'd see the
greyhounds here and I'd start growing and have to go
away because I couldn't be able to look at them,
because they would just remind me so much of my
two little whippet bills that cheerly.

Speaker 3 (01:47:57):
You've got a beautiful heart. Thank you very much, Chloe.
You're a greyhound trainer?

Speaker 31 (01:48:02):
A Hi, Yes i am.

Speaker 20 (01:48:03):
I'm located up in Whitcattle and my family also runs
the rehabitory homing program from the North Island.

Speaker 2 (01:48:09):
Well, great to chat to you, right, So is this
news today from Winston Peter's come as a shock to
you and your family?

Speaker 20 (01:48:16):
It does, yeah, definitely, and we weren't expecting it. I
didn't even know that it was coming out today, to
be honest with you, we definitely didn't expect Winston Peters
to make that sort of decision, and definitely not to
make a decision so abruptly with such a short amount
of time frame for us to rehome so many dogs.
I think a year and a half is a bit,

(01:48:36):
you know, not enough time considering how many dogs we
rehome in a year. Is it roughly about six hundreds
of the new American rehoming scheme as well.

Speaker 2 (01:48:46):
Chloe, do you think the description of greyhound their greyhound
industry is cruel to dogs as fear from your experience?

Speaker 20 (01:48:55):
Oh absolutely not. Look, we have had many dogs over
the years, ever since twelve was eight years old, and
all the dogs who had so much love and care,
and they've been cherished and treated like royalty, and the
greyhounds love. What they do is fulfilled, you know, Like
Steve said, grehounds are bread for a purpose and a
birth purpose is to run and chase. And some greyhounds

(01:49:17):
may not want to do that, but many do and
many love it.

Speaker 5 (01:49:20):
You know.

Speaker 20 (01:49:20):
I take my retired greyhounds down to us Streat Track
and they still love a good run even when they're retired.

Speaker 3 (01:49:25):
So with some peters have said, Chloe that the industry
was given a warning to increase the welfare standards and
have less dogs been injured and killed? I mean, does
that ring true from you? I'm just trying to get
my head around why target greyhound industry or racing in
particular when the horse racing has been given that same serve.

Speaker 20 (01:49:49):
Personally, I think it is because there's a lot more
people against greyhound racing or publicly saying there against greyhound racing.
I think greyhound racing is a bit of a smaller community.
It's probably an easier target for them to you know,
go after and say horrible things about it. Look, I
think greyhound racing has up their welfare there one hundred
and ten percent. I think there's always more to be done,

(01:50:11):
but we're definitely doing more and I think given the chance,
we could absolutely strive for more. Like I said, I
worked with the rehab to rehoming program up in the
North Island. So basically any dog which does a hawk
or a major injury, you know, goes through our program
and it's all funded by Greyhound Racing New Zealand. So
they all find a home. That dog you just talked
about before, Bread from Gap, his name was whose raceland

(01:50:32):
was inside the Sea, He actually came through us. He's
a gorgeous, gorgeous forwn boy with a little short dottail.
But he would love a new home. But look, I
think the welfare has definitely improved. You know, you can't
just go around euthanizing greyhounds. They have to you know,
you can't do that if you were to euthanize a greyhound,
it has to be approved by ground Racing and it
has to be a bit recommendation, So you know, you'd

(01:50:56):
have to have a dog that for whatever extreme reason
it had to be euthanized. So you can't just put
dogs down, Willy Nelly And comparing greyhound racing to many
other sports and codes and even just you know, typical
sports like agility and stuff. There's always injuries everywhere, but
ground racing definitely has the highest standard of welfare in
New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (01:51:15):
K have you seen in your time any dodgy trainers operating?

Speaker 20 (01:51:20):
Like everyone says, there's always bad apples, you know, in
the bunch, there's always rotten eggs. But I think you know,
people slip us. If they are dodgy trainers, they're going
to make a mistake and then the rob does get
them for that, and they may get you know, different
penalties or disqualifications or whatever that the rob deans that
is necessary and I think they do an amazing job

(01:51:42):
and you know, putting those rules to account.

Speaker 2 (01:51:45):
Well, it's interesting you say about other businesses. Has someone's
pointed out here and I'm not making any moral judgment
here at all. But Texas has three million baby boy
calves die each year so we can have milk. So
nine dogs is that so bad? And as another Texas says,
nine dogs that's how many were euthanized in the last
year's season, the twenty three to twenty four season, out

(01:52:08):
of thirty seven thousand starts. Yeah, I don't know if
that doesn't sound as bad to me. I mean, every
one of those is terrible, I'm sure, but it doesn't. Actually,
the stats don't sound that bad. But Chloe, this is
a text that's come through, and tell me what you
think about this. Go to a greyhound race one of
the most scungy, deplorable scenes you have ever had, the

(01:52:28):
misfortune and witnessing the people, the environment, just everything about
it and all so darro to bet on shame. What
do you say to that text?

Speaker 20 (01:52:37):
I too, honestly, I think everyone has their own opinion.
But being at the greyhound races, you know, weekly a
few times a week, the atmosphere there. The greyhound trainers
love their dogs, you know, after a race, the first
thing trying to do is kiss their dogs, cuddle their dogs.
You know, when I put a dog in the boxes
for their race. I always tell them to get around safe,
you know, don't worry about winning, like I love you

(01:52:58):
anyway and train up here Corey Steele, he's amazing and
he was on the ground racing board and every time
he put the dog in the boxes he tells him
get home safely and gives him a big kiss. You know,
all the trainers love their dogs and it's not about
the money. It's about what the dogs love. And like
Riley Evans, a trainer down in South Island, he wants
see it on a podcast. If you're in it for
the money, you're in it for the wrong reason. You

(01:53:19):
should be in it for the dogs. And I think
everyone is in it for the dogs. And if they
are in it for the money, then you know they'll
slip up in the rov will get them. But I think,
you know, greyhound racing is more than what people put
on the surface on social media.

Speaker 10 (01:53:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:53:33):
So the big worry for you now, Cohen, you've said
that all very beautifully is what is the future for
these two eight hundred greyhounds that now need a new home.

Speaker 20 (01:53:43):
I think, just in my opinion, if they were going
to do this like Emma, it was sorry they had
five greyhounds like, oh see her. Sorry, they should have
put a plan in place, like she said, either cut
down breeding and advanced or put some sort of plan
or even given us I think a minimum of three
years to rehomee these dogs and say that racing should

(01:54:04):
have been required a year and a half to rehome
close to the thousand dogs. It's ridiculous, you know. Yeah,
like I said, we re home six hundred a year,
So just expecting that is a bit, you know, over
the benchmark. Yeah, unless you know they're prepared to give
everyone support and housing these dogs while they do look

(01:54:26):
for homes post grohund Racing being banned. But I think
they should have definitely if they were going to put
if they decided to put a band, and should have
worked with grohund Racing to put a plan in place
for all trainers and everyone because there's so many people
that are going to lose their jobs and their livelihood
and their properties and all their money is revolved around
ground racing.

Speaker 3 (01:54:44):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:54:45):
Yeah, thank you so much for your call, Chloe. I
really appreciate your insight into the industry. Gap see in
some grazes Over to Australia. I have a gray that
had a hock injury, twenty five k paid by the
racing board for surgery. Any injured dog is taking to message,
taken to messy vet and operated on within four hours.
That's quicker than a human would get an operation. They
are awesome dogs. They love to run and they love

(01:55:06):
to sleep on the couch.

Speaker 13 (01:55:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:55:07):
Wow, we're going to it all up very shortly.

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It is four to four, very interesting discussion. I'm sure
Ryan will have more on the band in the greyhound
industry after four o'clock.

Speaker 2 (01:55:30):
Yeah, we've got full lines. Wanted to talk about it,
but we've run out of time unfortunately, but we will
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