Full Show Podcast: 10 March 2025

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Hello you, great New Zealanders, and welcome to Mattin Tyler
Full Show. Matt and Tyler Afternoon's Full Show, Pod number
eighty three, four Monday, the tenth of March twenty twenty five.
Fantastic Show would pivot pivot into some poll chat around
the new poll before soo go deep into some binge
watching chat.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Fantastic people get a bit heated. Actually, people come at
me a little bit.

Speaker 4 (00:39):
Yeah, they were pretty fight up, yeah, against you for
some reason. But a lot of great recommendations of shows
to binge watch all wait weekly yep.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
And also like I really enjoyed looking into the lives
of people, peering into people's voyeuristically and on people's lives
on when they cut off their kids. Some amazing stories there.

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Speaker 4 (01:31):
Good afternoon to you. Welcome into Monday afternoon. I hope
you had a great weekend hereck of a lot of
events happening around the country over the weekend, even here
in Auckland. Heard some great things about Chris Stapleton on
I think it was Friday Night, wasn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, people absolutely loved that show.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
Yeah, I've heard a voice.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Oh, he's incredible. Have you seen him performing the national
anthem at the Super Bowl? No, that guy, you have
to watch that.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, what a voice, great guitarist, you know, the real deal.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
Yeah. And then you had the Champions Day racing at
Ellerslie the Polo which I went to.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
That was good. Yeah, yeah, and then various rugby and
sporting fixtures.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah good, bring it on. Good times absolutely right time
was had by all across the entire nation.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
He was and speaking a good times onto the show
today after three o'clock. I want to talk about binge
watching versus weekly episodes, all drop in on a weekly basis,
how it used to be before these streaming giants came along.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Speaking of events, So I went along to the rugby
at Eden Park and we're watching the Brumbries and Blues.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Anyway, anyway, I don't want to talk about that anymore.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
A bunch of friends of our sitting around the table
started talking about White Lotus and you know, our theories
on that show, and it just got me thinking, how
much better is week to week television then binging it?
Because binging sucks the soul out of you. Sit there,
watch one episode after one episode after one episode in
a row, stay out late. You need You only need

(03:01):
to watch forty five minutes show of a week a week,
and then you think about it and you come.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Back to it.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
You don't need to watch that much television. So I
I just think weekly shows, even if they're all dropped,
even if like Stranger Things gets all dropped at once,
dumped at once.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
Get some discipline and just watched one.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
A week and then wait.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
You need to do some other stuff, watch some other stuff.
I mean Clarks and Farms coming up pretty soon.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
Oh, that's going to be hard to not binge watch
that one. I think that is dropped that weekly basis.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Just drop that on a weekly basis.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, I think it's about sixty odd days or a
couple of months away.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
We were talking about watch parties though that I remember
watch parties for Lost when it was dropped on a
weekly basis, that would all go round to a friend's
place wait for eight thirty for the new episode of Lost.
It was good time.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
There was a story writing Ponzi schime. They kep me
just putting money in and there was nothing in the
bank and.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
Wepped off at the end. We got ripped off by
that one.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
That is after three o'clock. Though after two o'clock, At
what point should you stop financially supporting your children? Great
article in the New Zealand Herald about financially supporting children,
But it is a big question.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
I think cut them off.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
It sickx seend them down the chimneys.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
It's pretty late. Yeah, it's pretty old at their stage,
isn't it.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Well, that was the old way it used to work,
wasn't it.

Speaker 6 (04:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (04:16):
I know, Because you know, I've got an eighteen year
old Sundays just starting university. I'm questioning how much I
pay for things, and currently it's still a lot. It's
hard as a parent to transition from doing the right
thing from your kids, from being a parent. That's nurturing
them and preparing them for the world to just letting
them go out into the world and making their own
mistakes and you know, risking it all and realizing how

(04:37):
important certain things are, like how much food costs and
how much you have to work to pay rent and
all those kind of things that you need to you
need to know, if you need to know become a
fully rounded citizen.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Of this country.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
Yep, and kids are staying later at later at mum
and Dad's house, So that's going to be a good
discussion after two o'clock, because right now, let's have a
chat about the latest taxpay union curier Pole. Labor has
overtaken National in the latest poll, with Chris Hapkins also
pepping piping rather Christopher Luxin and the preferred prime minister stakes.
So according to the Pole results, National is up one

(05:10):
point seven points to thirty three point six percent, but
Labor has moved past it, up two point eight percent
to thirty four percent. The Greens they have stumbled down
three point two points to ten percent. Act has declined
two point three to seven point seven percent. To Party
Mali they've risen a couple of points to six point
five while New Zealand first is down one point three

(05:31):
points to five point one.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
So what are the blocks looking at?

Speaker 4 (05:35):
So if we do some quick mathematics here, it's not
looking good for the current coalition government, But you've got
to argue it's not looking fantastic for the labor block
as well. Considering what Chris Hipkins had to say about
to Patty Malty last week. I mean, it is, according
to this pole, shaping up to be an interesting election,
but we preface that by saying the election is eighteen

(05:56):
months away.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, and our polls. Do we even care about poles
this far out or at all? If you do care,
what do you think Labour Nationals should do to turn
this around? Or should they just do what they're doing.
If they think it's right and wait for the country
to the economy to sort itself out. If they believe
that what they've got in place now is going to
pay dividends before the election, then they should do that

(06:21):
rather than completely pandering to the polls. It's like day
trading on your stocks. You can't be day trading on
your stocks or else you'll make crazy decisions. You have
to play the long game.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
It just feels this far out from an election, if
you get wrung up by one of these posters, you
just want to give the current government a bit of
a serve, don't you. I don't think a lot of
these people and this is obviously my opinion, but do
you really think they have that intention to vote how
they've told these pollsters? When you're eighteen months away from election,
it's very easy to say, yeah, I'm grumpy with everything

(06:52):
at the moment, But then you get to the polling
booth come twenty twenty six, and your vote will be
very different to what you tell the posters.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Now, do only angry people bother answering the polls as well?
I mean looking into poll accuracy. It comes and goes,
doesn't it. And obviously eighteen months out and the Cliche
is the only poll that counts as the election day, obviously,
but eighteen months out there's a long way way away.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
But you know, if I.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Was asked to do if someone asked me to participate
in a political poll, I'd say, why would I bother
my time bother with that?

Speaker 4 (07:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (07:25):
You know, out of all the things I could be
doing right now, just pumping up your poll, I'm not
going to do that. Yeah, I don't believe there's a
good chance. I wouldn believe it was a real pole,
thinking that I was involved in some kind of scam.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
Yeah, what do you actually get for completing a poll?
Do they give you money or some sort of you know, Tyler.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
That would be the most corrupt thing ever, if they
paid you for the poll, what's the.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
Point of doing it?

Speaker 6 (07:48):
Then?

Speaker 4 (07:49):
You know who would give an hour of their time
to do one of these poles?

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Way undred eighty ten eighty. What do you think about
this poll? If you're a national supporter, what do you
think a national should do? If you're not a national supporter,
what do you think they should do? Poles are getting
more and more skewed, says. This text of this poll
was a random selection of fifteen thousand New Zealand phone numbers,
fifteen thousands a lot landlines and marbiles and a random
selection from the target population from up to three global

(08:15):
online panels. Who in the right mind actively joins an
online panel? Yeah, I mean an online panel is not
a real pole, is it?

Speaker 4 (08:22):
No? No, I mean it does start to and I'm
just having to look at the methodology of this particular pole,
and it raises you know a good point that if
they're only just doing it by an online panel and
then the old landline. I know they are using mobile
phones a little bit more, but is it going to
be more skewed towards the older generation? You would argue

(08:43):
it would.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Be maybe, But maybe the older generation I don't know,
Like maybe they're more worried about scams than anyone at
least you guys don't get excited about poles like the
political media journalists do. Yeah, well, I'm not excited about
we are talking about it though, I mean, if that's
your if that is your angle on it. Eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty Is this irrelevant to be looking

(09:05):
at poles eighteen months out?

Speaker 5 (09:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Who cares?

Speaker 4 (09:08):
If you are a national supporter? Should the party be
worried about this? It is I think the fourth consecutive
poll that shows them taking a bit of a hit.
Or do you just not care about polls eighteen months
out from an election? Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty
is the number to call? Nine two ninety two is
the text number. It is quart a past one back
very surely.

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Speaker 4 (09:43):
Good Afternoon. It is seventeen past one and we're talking
about the latest Taxpayers Union Caurier poll. It was released
this afternoon and shows Labor has overtaken National in that poll. So,
just to give you the rundown, according to the results,
National is up one point seven points to thirty three
point six percent, but Labor has moved past it, up
two point eight points to thirty four point one percent.

(10:07):
So the question we've put to you is what do
National need to do, if anything, to start to turn
these pole results around?

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Or should they just ignore the poles and not day
trade on the poles, just play the long game. They've
obviously decided that what they want to do is the
right thing to do. Do they just keep doing it?
But I guess you could say that Poles might if
you believe Poles, and if you believe.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
In the methodology of this particular pole.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Then maybe it's just questions your messaging and you still
do the same thing, but you just improve your messaging
on what you're doing. I mean, right, now it seems
like national getting an absolute hammering in the media. Everywhere
you look. Everywhere you look, someone's throwing rocks at them.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
Absolutely, And whether that is fear or not, it's a
good question. But you know, you look at the trend
of polls. But eighteen months out, I don't know. I
think six months out from election is probably when you
start to panic a little bit. But can you hear
what you think? Oh wait, oh, eight one hundred eighty
ten eighty is the number.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
To call Jonathan Welcome to show your thoughts on this pole.

Speaker 7 (11:15):
Yeah, okay, I think not important. I think we're not
seeing the real facts of what's going on out in
the media yet. I mean, there's always a lay about
three to six months of what's really happening. Like in
the property market, it has turned already and a lot
of the people out there have not realized it. There's
now shifting startians shift from a buyers market back to
a neutral marketer almost a seller's market. You know, things

(11:38):
are starting to shift again and that's not coming out
in the media. But I think, to be honest with
the media is so negative that they're really not talking
what I call the quiet majority, the quite majority of
those who actually have a job, go to work, work hard.
And the kids it's actually go to school. They're the
ones that are not talking to. So I don't believe

(11:59):
those polls were bona.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Do you think that the media as a whole is
more negative to this coalition government than they have previously.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Been to governments?

Speaker 5 (12:09):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (12:09):
Absolutely, I mean you look at John Key's time and
in the way and this is what a lot of
the media I'll not be taken seriously too. A lot
of people I socialized work do not even watch the
news now, do not take it seriously. I listened to
the radio, so you talk and talk about radio or
that most of them I would call the sitement rightly,
listen to you guys, but I do not take any

(12:31):
notice of what the channel one, channel three. I mean,
I hard to watch the news now, it's just a joke.
My kids don't even watch it.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
But so, what do you think that this poll has
come back the way it has? If you if you
believe it doesn't represent what New Zealanders believe, or do
you do you represent that? Do you think that it's
just a lag and that if you did the same
poll again in three months and it would represent what
New Zealand does believe.

Speaker 7 (12:54):
I think Laxton doesn't. He just doesn't next with the
I mean he's a lot of baggage. Well what I
did of he's on the Poet and Any Zealand for
a lot of people. He really got a lot of
people angry, spit up and the Nelson region christ which
when he shut down the engineer.

Speaker 8 (13:11):
So he's that factor.

Speaker 7 (13:13):
But he's good at pulling things down. But I don't
think he's got it creating hope seemster john Key is
he was. We people used to say he flip flopped
as he listened to the people and he would move
with the title. He had that air or that ability
to issually listen, and I don't think Latson comes across
as listening. But I don't think it'd be I don't
think he'd be a premise by the end of the year,

(13:34):
if I'd be honest.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
It's interesting though, because you know, I've had a various
dealings with Christopher luxon out and about at events or
you know, interviewing him on air and you know, talking
to him off and he's a very personable. He's very
personal in real life. He's very interesting in people remembers
things about them and comes across.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Very very well one to one, But.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
It seems he's not really coming across that well on
on on on the camera.

Speaker 7 (14:03):
I think that's a fair comment. I mean I've actually
met him too, and I brought up an issue that
he sort of side washington't take it seriously. And because
we're at a meeting and with a lot of National
supporters there, and one of the issues we brought up was,
you know, the education of our children. They all leaving
over seas because like we said to on the student
louts before that a shoe up of them. I said,
why is it you have twenty year olds depending on

(14:25):
the parents' income to the louts when you can said,
why don't you flip up and make it the doll
depend on appearents' income rather than students. And he sort
of just he just came across to the b arrigan
and I think he just doesn't resonate.

Speaker 9 (14:36):
With a lot of people.

Speaker 7 (14:38):
And yeah, that's why I don't think he'd be privacy
at the end of the year. I actually think my
money's on Brown. Oh that's Sam and Brown thing over.
He's just he's more sharp, So I think we'll all
have a change.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Do you think that's kind of a cultured personality thing though, Jonathan,
wouldn't it be better? And look, I mean this is
absolute pie in the sky stuff and it will never happen,
But how good it would would it be.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
If if it was people just looked at the list.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Of the policies and on soberly looked at them and
decided what they support and what they don't rather than
how someone comes across.

Speaker 7 (15:11):
Well, unfortunately people don't do that. Unfortunately, cult on the
person now can't important? To be honest? Who sent and read?
I mean have you actually read initially, like when the
rents legislatus came out the textbality, have you read through that?

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Well we talked we kind of have to read a
bit of that stuff.

Speaker 10 (15:27):
Yeah, job, Yeah.

Speaker 7 (15:31):
But the average person doesn't actually read anything. They listen
to the media and they make the opinions on something
else's opinion, rather than you'll think, yeah, can you blame people?

Speaker 3 (15:41):
I mean people are working longer and longer hours and
and things are harder, and things are more expensive, and
they finished the day. Okay, I'm just going to sit
down and read some legislation.

Speaker 7 (15:55):
I know, it's just been a bit of you know
what I'm saying. What I'm saying is people do not
actually read it for themselves. They rely on other people's opinion.
And I think, at the moment, what's this change the government?
Normally you have a honeymoon period and Luston never really
got that. He doesn't catch people's imagination. I just can't
put my finger on it. But I think he means

(16:17):
well and I do generally believe that. I just don't
think he's a leader. Maybe he's a two C some
people suite. She's like, he's not a leader, and I
think Laxton's like that. With Simy Brown, I think he's
the future of national I mean, just watch what he's
doing him And what's her name, finance lady. She's incredible. Yeah,

(16:40):
she's an incredible in person. I met her and she's lovely.
She's curing, really curing, an empaphetic lady, and you know,
but she's you know, one of those two will be
the leader. But I just don't think Laxon's got just
have quite got it.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah, do you think people go for Simon Brown once
he's thirty three years old?

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Do you think people would think that's too young.

Speaker 7 (17:04):
I think with Simon is very proficient for his age.
And forgot he's that young godness because I look at
his ability and I think if you look at his ability,
he just stands out. He just he's clean cut, he's
a strong family man. He's got his personal religious views,

(17:25):
but he doesn't push it down people stroke So he's
He's got a lot of substance time as a person.

Speaker 11 (17:31):
And that's what I think.

Speaker 7 (17:33):
When need is a leader, some think is hope. That's
what leadership is about. A leadership should be about we
see a future, not let's pull. If you're down, let
stop the jobs. We've just got to switch start having
a growth mentality.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
Yeah, Jonathan, thank you very much. I mean, just on
that thanks mate, Just on that point about having a salesperson,
you know, I mean, that's kind of what you need, right.
John Key was very effective. It's selling his ideas and
hope to New Zealanders, but also just having a pulse
of the nation. He was someone that you wouldn't mind
having a barbecue with or having a beer with. Whether

(18:06):
Chris Luxen is that or will he ever be that,
I don't know. I don't think Sammy and Brown is
quite there either. Mark Mitchell, for example, he is a
very likable, very likable guy, very charming. But whether there
will be a change of leadership for the election, that's
a big quar to make.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
It's a huge quarter make. I've got a theory on this,
sort of like to share share neck.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
So I've got a theory on what Christopher Luxon's doing, okay,
and where he's getting it wrong.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Okay, all right, but keen it might be terrible. I
haven't told you.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
Keen to hear from you though. Oh one hundred and
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Speaker 4 (20:32):
Good afternoon. We're talking about the latest Tankspayer Union's Curier poll,
which shows again not a great result for the National
Lead Coalition and the National Party full stop for that matter.
Now before the break you mentioned you've got a bit
of a theory.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Mat Yeah, I do.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
This is This is my theory, and like, I don't
have any insight into here except for just looking at
everything and bringing it together into my brain and then
spewing this out.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
Love it right, Okay, here we go, I believe.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
So Chris Luxon and John Key best mates in each
other's pocket. You've got an X prime minister who was
very successful and liked for the whole time he was there,
but it was a charismatic guy and people just seem
to gravitate towards him. He's the person that's advising Christopher Luxon.
He's also advising Christopher Luxon from a time when he
was Prime minister, which was you know, two thousand and

(21:21):
eight to twenty sixteen, which is a hugely different time.
We're talking nine years ago. He no longer he left
being prime minister, and so I think what's happening is
that Christopher Luxon is taking his advice for John Key,
a guy that had you know, went for a very
centralist approach, but had an ability to bring people along.

(21:42):
And so maybe Christopher Luckxon's got the same capability as
John Key. I mean, john Key obviously had a Bill
English who was a great a great supporter and did
a lot of the base work, where John Key could
go out and do what's popular.

Speaker 5 (21:54):
Right.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
So I just think if you're getting your advice from
a guy that's a very different person from you, with
a very different set of skills, I think he can
end up in the wrong, wrong position. Because how many
scandals did John Key have that just was Yes, people
were like, you know, people were throwing so much mud
at him the whole time, and it just it just
sort of washed off on what they called him.

Speaker 4 (22:17):
People liked him, Yeah, yeah, but you mentioned as team
that he had behind him as well built English. Steven
Joyce next myth to a lesser extent. But you know,
these were pretty capable Simon Bridges. Yep, Simon Bridges. These
were very capable MPs and ministers in their own right.
Whether Chris Lauson has that behind him, I don't know.
It's a good theory, though, very good theory.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Well, if you try to run the likable playbook when
for some reason you don't come off likable on the
and and and straight up on the on the camera
and the interviews, then you're end up in a difficult situation,
don't you You need to be playing another playbook.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
Yeah, exactly right. A couple of texts, then headlines coming
up afternoon goes and joined the topic today.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
I believe lux in a similar to Helen Clark, highly
capable but with a pr problem and seemingly unlikeable arcus.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
That's interesting.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
But Helen Clark was pretty popular as a Prime minister
for the first two terms.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
Yeah, it was only on the final term she became
up likable. Right, guys, are we eighteen months out or
eighteen months in on their term? There's still a lot
of water to go under the bridge. Yeah, well that's
fair point, and we're both I mean give will take
eighteen months because the election gets called a little bit
closer to the time, but we are still only halfway
through the term. What whatever way you slice it.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Yeah, And that's also another question. Should nationally even be
looking at these poles. Should they be worrying about them
changing direction or should they just back themselves and what
they're doing is right and that people will catch up.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
Yep, love to hear from you. Oh, eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Nine two
ninety two is the text number. Headlines with Rayling coming
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Speaker 4 (25:03):
Thank you very much, Rayllan. We're talking about the latest
taxpayer union curier pollnock. There rate news for the Coalision
government or for the National Party. So the question we've
put out there is what, if anything, do National need
to do to try and turn it around or do
you not care about the polls? And we're that far
up from an election it doesn't really matter.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
Po's on the poles. Who even cares?

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Guys, The problem with light bulb blucking is nobody knows
what he stands for. He's like a John Key tribute
band playing and just sender art and setlist and rapidly
becoming increasingly apparent that he's not the man we thought
he was.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
Well, that's not a bad text to me.

Speaker 5 (25:37):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
He's a John Key tribute band playing just settless.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
What the analogy? Thank you very much for that.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Here we go, Hey, here we go. The Tommy Knockers
are out in force. The herd mentality is taking over
months of media pylons and misquotes, and the polls show
a draw and it's immediately Luxe's fault. National are as
good as gold. Look at the pole again. If you
think living in an Amriah's the way to go, you've
got to be effing joking. Keep advising Luxeon. Where's your proof?

(26:06):
You guys aren't political commentators. You're talk host. A recent
post on social media wasn't exactly kind about you or
your show, unfortunately, Reese. Okay, so he's just said having
a shot at every anyone. Yeah, I mean, I would
argue that anyone's allowed to talk about the politics in
the nation.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
So is this person saying Reese? So you're saying.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
That a few you guys aren't political commentators. So are
you saying that only a certain class of elites are
allowed to talk about the politics in New Zealand? What
would those qualifications reach that you would need to have
before you could talk about politics.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
Yeah, it's kind of what we do here. Has had
discussions and debate there to fix you know, and our listeners.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
And a recent social media post wasn't wasn't pleasant about us?
Oh my, oh my god, oh my god, a nasty
social media post, Reese.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
I'll tell you what. I'm hanging out my headphones on
the back of that happened.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
Thank you very much for that, Reese. All right, let's
go to the phones.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
Get a dam Dan, welcome to the show.

Speaker 15 (27:10):
Good.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
How are you good, mate? How are you very good?

Speaker 6 (27:15):
Now?

Speaker 5 (27:15):
I think Chris.

Speaker 15 (27:16):
Part of Chris Lutton's problem is that a few months ago,
when he got on TV and sold a couple of
his houses, that he made good money on them, and
that doesn't go down too well with people who were
struggling to pay mortgages?

Speaker 16 (27:39):
Was that, Dan?

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Why do you think that is?

Speaker 5 (27:41):
Dan? Part of me?

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Why would people have a problem with a successful person
making money?

Speaker 15 (27:51):
Well, I think It doesn't just doesn't sit right on.
Here is Chris Lutson, the Prime Minister, making heaps of
money on houses, and here am I struggling to pay
my mortgage.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
I think though, that we want people that have been successful,
at least a certain percentage of those in government to
have been successful in other ways in life and showing competency.

Speaker 14 (28:20):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 15 (28:22):
Here's Chris Fluxen, the Prime Minister, a very wealthy man
who is behind in the polls, and here's a lot
of people struggling to pay their mortgage.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Do you feel that? Do you feel that, Dan?

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Do you feel that because he has managed to sell
some houses a profit and done quite well in his
career and been CEO of some big companies, do you
find that Do you think that makes you have a
lesser opinion of him?

Speaker 15 (28:53):
It doesn't make me have a lesser opinion, but it
sort of does. It makes me feel that he isn't
the right person to relate to people who are on struggle.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Streak, okay or thank you for your thoughts, Dan, so
I guess stand saying that because he's been successful, some
people that aren't doing very well can't relate to him
that didn't seem to be a problem for John Kay,
and John Key was so so much richer than Chris
Luxing us.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
Yeah, yeah, it was so much wealth. You absolutely, I mean,
I wonder and it's not quite Dan's point, but people
have been struggling across the board for some time, right,
cost of living, it has just felt harder. And that's
the same across most of the western world, right. It
has been tough for the last three or four years.
So Christopher Luxen has been on a hiding to nothing

(29:44):
to try and as he would say, turn the ship
around or what was it, get the barnacles off the boat.
So they would be hoping that at the end of
this year there is some turnaround in those figures of
business confidence that we're all getting a little bit more
money in our pocket. And as Dan said, our mortgage
rates go down. So I suppose that's a bit of
a wait and see, but they will certainly be hoping

(30:06):
for that.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Here's a text on I two nine two. Don'tknock as Luxon.
He's a capable man who needs our support at this
point to continue his good work. As long as he's
doing the job well, we need to stop wanting the
perfect pr person, Heather. Yeah, I mean that's the strange
thing about politics, though, isn't it is there is a
lot of charisma needed to sell. If you've got a

(30:27):
lot of chrisma, you can sell near anything. If you've
got hardly any charisma, he struggled to sell anything.

Speaker 4 (30:32):
Yeah, absolutely, Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty
is the number to call love to hear from you
on this. What if anything do National need to do
to start turning around these poll numbers? Or if you
want to have a chat and abuse the polls themselves,
you're more than welcome. Nine to two. Nine to two
is the text number. It is seventeen to two.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
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Speaker 4 (30:58):
News Talk said, be good afternoon. It is fourteen to two.
On the back of another bad poll for the coalition
government and the National Party. We've asked the question, what
if anything do National need to do to start turning
those numbers around?

Speaker 3 (31:12):
And do we care about a pole? Eighteen months out?

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Did Luxeon need to tell everyone about a success, he
could have been more humble like most people are and
reached the people. I think it has been pretty humble.
I don't think he's really showed off about his success.
There was that I'm sorted, but that was actually been
misquoted and moved out of how he actually meant it.
He was saying, look, I admit that, because it'll be
ridiculous for him to say he's not.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Yeah, but I think one of the reasons why Luxeon
came in, one of the key reasons was his success
and that playbox seemed to work pretty well with John
Key for National But then people have somehow flipped it
around and now if you're really successful, that is considered
a sort of a black mark against you.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
Yeah, and just quickly on that quote, the way that
I saw it and the way that I think it
was intended writer is yeah, I've done well in life,
but I want everybody to do as well as I've done.
That was what I got from it, and it kind
of got twisted around that I'm sorted and bugger the
rest of you. That's certainly not how it was intended.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
So this SYSA says, you guys are just drama the
pole quoting owned the poll you're quoting polled only one
thousand people. That's from Adrian.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Well, we're asking that question, actually, Adrian, aren't we You're
asking is it just drama and and an ability for
people to get clicks and for viewers and listeners poles?

Speaker 4 (32:25):
Yeah, and Adrine, clearly you think this poll is a
load of rubbish. The fair enough too.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
You have the numbers as fifteen hundred people, wasn't it.

Speaker 17 (32:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
So the methodology here is, and i'll just read this
out verb betim. The sample population is adults age eighteen
plus who live in New Zealand and eligible and likely
to vote, who are contactable by a landline or mobile
phone or online panel. One thousand respondents agreed to participate,
eight hundred by phone, two hundred by online panel, a
random selection of fifteen thousand New Zealand phone numbers landlines
and mobiles, and a random selection of the target population

(32:54):
from up to three global online panels. And then it
goes on to say, I mean it's pretty crazy methodology.
If the call is to a landline, the person who
is home and next to the birthday is asked to
take part. There you go, that's it in a nutshell, Kram.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
How are you good?

Speaker 6 (33:13):
Good?

Speaker 10 (33:13):
Thank you?

Speaker 11 (33:14):
So, yeah, it's interesting. So I've watched a lot of
politics around the world, you know, I've protected protected to Trump.
You know, obviously Trump's gotten twice. That never surprised me
even the first time. So anyway, coming back to New Zealand, Yeah,
I don't think it's a good idea to change prime
ministers halfway through. I'm not a fan of Luxem and

(33:39):
I think Luxon will be gone. But I think they
will have to wait until sometime next year and choose
somebody like Erica Stanford, you know. So there are options
out there that they might have to wait until next
year to see what happens with the economy and that

(33:59):
changes anything at all.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
So okay, so so what so how long would you
wait then?

Speaker 11 (34:11):
Well, I mean I think the rule is normally three months.
You know, just this what happened with labor, you know
before justin Dadun was chosen, and you know, you see
what's happened in America when you know Joe Biden and
Kamala Harris. So we need to kind of look at
what happened, you know, in other countries as well, because.

Speaker 14 (34:30):
We do.

Speaker 5 (34:32):
Whether we like it or not.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yeah, well, I mean the Joe Biden swapping out for
Carmelin didn't go so well they did it, Yeah exactly.

Speaker 11 (34:42):
I mean I don't I don't think it's actually fair
on the you know, voting population to just go halfway
through and just go, oh, well, we're just going to
change it to Simeon Brown or Grins Fresher or whoever.
I don't think that will go down well either, because,
you know, unless they're put in somebody like you to
Colins for now, if they really need to do a

(35:04):
leadership change, because Colins would go really well with Trump
because we need a strong leader in New Zealand of
the moment, you know, with what was happening, you know,
Cook Islands or whatever, and all the geopolitical reasons as well.

Speaker 10 (35:21):
Yeah, you know, we actually need her yet.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
Yeah, well, it's a fair point that you don't want
to panic and go too early. Nationals made that mistake
in the past and the fairly recent past, you know,
when they turfed out Simon Bridges and got Todd Muller
in there, and clearly we know how that worked out,
and Judith had to step in to try and save
as much as she could before the election, and so
that didn't work out too well. Panicking too early and kareem,

(35:44):
are you know if things start to turn around quite
dramatically by the end of this year economically, that those
mortgage rates go down, that there's more business confidence, I
would argue that the poll numbers would be vastly different.
That if everybody's fairly more hopeful, feeling more rich, feeling
like the country's on track, then you start to see
those numbers turn around.

Speaker 11 (36:03):
Yes, exactly. It's nothing to do with Luxeon. It's it's
obviously the current government of the day. And as the
economy improves and the confidence is starting to come back
already we can see the green shoot in the economy.
It's starting to happen. So we just have to wait
for a while and see what happens. And also no
one's talking about labor. I mean, I will be very

(36:26):
surprised if Chris Hopkins was still the leader three months
before the election. I don't think that's going to happen
either either way. Whatever happens in the polls, I'm pretty
sure Chrisiptins will be replaced. He has to be replaced.
Not that I don't like Chrisipians. But you know, it
just doesn't work like that. You know, if Labor really

(36:46):
was fierce to win the election, they will have to
replace with a you know, another leader, a fresh faith.
And also I'm not sure about Labor how much they
want to actually you know, go with the Chapati, Mary,
because that might really affect their polls of what they

(37:07):
do with that. So that's the Labor.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
Yeah, thank you very much for your call.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
Yep, great staff. Right coming up next, we're gonna have
a chant to our senior political correspondent, Bewry Soper. It
is eight minutes to two, Mattieth.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
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Speaker 4 (37:32):
B It is five to two to chat further about
this is Senior political Correspondent Barry Soper and studio. Get
a Barry good, It's nice.

Speaker 5 (37:41):
To be here again.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Great to see you too, Barry.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
So is it realistic that Luxeon will be replaced anytime soon?
And should national be worried about a poll eighteen months
out for the election.

Speaker 17 (37:52):
Yeah, the two quite distinct questions. I think there will
be worried in the National ranks, There's no doubt about this.
And don't forget this. Polster is their own pols to
the Courier pole, so it is their own. It's not
the tallboot pole, which is the Labor Party posters. So
it's put Labor marginally ahead of the National Party, even
though both main parties have gone up in their rankings.

(38:15):
But when it comes down to Chris Luxon, you know, look,
he's had one hell of a time since he took
over his primers. There was no it was a baptism afar,
there was no honeymoon. The gallery has been on his
case ever since he came in, and I think the
public has as.

Speaker 4 (38:32):
Well, because they believe that after these.

Speaker 17 (38:36):
Dreadful three years that have just been through the COVID
years and post COVID, that things should have been put
right almost immediately, and that's the expectation of the voter.

Speaker 4 (38:47):
But they could never be.

Speaker 17 (38:49):
So you've got a government here that really hasn't made
significant gains and that's what the public wants. So they're
disappointed and if an election was held now, Fortunately there
won't be one. The center left would have the numbers.
The center right, even with New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
First, wouldn't.

Speaker 5 (39:07):
So not good.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
Look at the polls.

Speaker 17 (39:09):
Sorry sorry, I'll just rave on about this last bit.
But if you look at the average preferred prime minister
through the ages, and I thought, you know, it's interesting
to see just how prime ministers did poll. Look at
Helen Clark, Yeah, she used in opposition pol appallingly she
had an average of sixty four percent in the nine years.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
She was far out that said something anything for those
kind of numbers now.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
Absolutely what Yeah, fascinating stuff is always Barry. Good to
see you again. We'll catch up soon.

Speaker 17 (39:39):
Sorry, didn't get a word in edgeways.

Speaker 7 (39:41):
Chair.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
That was fantastic. That has senior political correspondent Barry Soper,
New Sport and Weather on its way.

Speaker 5 (39:49):
Talking with you all afternoon.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
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Speaker 4 (39:57):
Good afternoon, welcome back into the program. Seven past two,
and this is going to be a great discussion. When
is it time to stop financially supporting your children? So
the article say, as it begins, with some extra cash
to buy clothes and pay phone bills. Then it's spotting
university courses and books. But at what age should the
growing children start chipping in? The things start to change

(40:20):
when they get a job. So more adults children than
ever are living with their parents in New Zealand. We
know that stats in ZET Household Survey shows this type
of household has grown by more than one hundred thousand
since two thousand and four, the fastest growth of any household.
So we do know that children are not flying the
coop at the same age that they used to.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Well it's hard to isn't it much harder to fly
the coop? But helping out children when does it become
not helping out children because you're enabling their life and
they never learn the lessons and maybe they don't appreciate
what they've they don't appreciate what they've got if it's
just given to them. You know, like when you actually
get a job and you go out there and you
maybe go out and buy a beer and you think

(41:03):
that fifteen dollars bear that is half my hourly wage,
you know, nearly all my early ways after tax, and
that is a way to see the world that you
might not see if you're you know, like I mean.
The class example is trust kid. Trust fund kids. You know,
there's no one more miserable than a trust fund kid
because they are basically sorted for life. And your job

(41:23):
really as a parent is, from I believe, and someone
could tell me if they disagree on our wee e
one hundred and eighty ten eighty or nine to nine two,
the job of a parent is to spend eighteen years
making them competent, and then you send them off into
the world as someone that has everything and all the
capabilities and all the learnings and the all the well,

(41:44):
you know they're going to get some things wrong, but
all the tools they need to survive as an adult
in the world.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
So that's zero to eighteen.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Having said that, as a as a father of an
eighteen year old, I'd find it quite hard to just
cut him off at eighteen. I used to say to
him for the longest time that as soon as you
have to listen to me, you have to do what
I say until you're eighteen, and then you're an adult
and then you can do what you want.

Speaker 4 (42:08):
And that's good I feel about that.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
It really worked.

Speaker 4 (42:11):
Yeah, he listened to you and now he's eighteen. Yeah,
now he doesn't listen.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
He still does that strangely good boy, but you know,
and just recently there's been you know, I'm still paying
for a lot of stuff, but a big part of
me thinks that I shouldn't, that a parent shouldn't pay
for their tertiary education. That that's when you have the
ability to pay for it now, either by getting a
student loan or whatever it is, that you should take
on that responsibility of your life from eighteen and you know,

(42:39):
make your way in the world, and that there's some
honor in that, and you know, and you can feel
proud of yourself as opposed to constantly going back to
your parents and putting your hand out.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
Yeah, you've got to have a bird of struggles street
by the time you had eighteen nineteen maybe twenty. For me,
it was when I had university and I had to
get my study link and the student loan, and there
were some weeks there. I mean, we as a flat
went on food together, but sometimes as an eighteen year
old we blew it all on beer. So we didn't
know what the hell to do to try and get through.
But you figured it out to figure out what you'd

(43:09):
rustle up. We had a lot of eggs back in
the university day. Eggs would cheap back then, Not so
much the case anymore.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
I had a job right through university, so I had
more money than a lot of my flatmates.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
They were just at university. I kept working, but they
were a lot of them were eating pasta and salt,
but drinking a lot of beers.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
So it was just sacrifices two minute noodle sandwiches. Yeah,
but but yeah, when do you cut them off? Because,
as I say, you feel like you're doing the right
thing by supporting them, and you feel like and some parents,
like wealthy parents, think well I need to help my
kids by house. But do you or do you just

(43:49):
owe your kids to feed them and roove them, roove them,
house them, put a roof over their head and get
them to eighteen healthy and then really unleash them onto
the world.

Speaker 4 (44:03):
Yeah it's a hard one, isn't it. I Mean, my
parents didn't help me on the day to day and
the week weak. But I'll preface that by saying when
I did run into some financial difficulty, I had no
option but to give mamacor and say I've stuffed up.
I've got an overdraft. I don't know how to pay
it back. The interest is creeping up on me. I
need a help, I need a hand. And at that

(44:24):
point she said, yeah, I'll help you out with this
from your team. Yeh, never do it again. So I
think it's those moments that if your child does screw
up and run into financial difficulty, how can you not
help them? Surely if they come to you and say
I've got myself into a bit of dit here, I
can't get out of it. Can you help me? Then
you'd say, wow, there have to be some Yeah, I

(44:44):
mean that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Of course you would if you could, because you're a
parent and you love them dearly and all you want
is to stop worrying about them and make sure they're okay.
And this certainly wouldn't allow a situation to happen when
they ended up on the street. But there is some
balance there where you're just making sure that if you
always make sure they've got a safety net and they've
always got somewhere to go and there's no risk in
their life. And then in a way that you can't

(45:08):
feel proud of yourself for your achievements and you can't
feel that visceral connection to it between the money you
earn and what you can do, which I think is
the most character building thing you can have.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
Yeah, this is going to be good. Oh eight one
hundred and eighty ten eighty. At what time do you
stop financially supporting your children love to hear your stories.
If they're still living at home and perhaps in their
mid twenties, how hard is it for them out there?
Are you trying to help them get into house? Let's
get into it. Nine two nine two is the text number.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Yeah, And look, I would like to share I feel very,
very guilty about how I left home when I was
a kid, when I was a teenager, how I left
home was so ungrateful, all right, which is the other
side of it, which I learnt that there are some
kids that just want to leave and look after themselves completely,
And there's a flip side to it.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
This is almost as bad, all right.

Speaker 4 (45:58):
That's coming next. That is thirteen past two, your new.

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Speaker 5 (46:10):
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Speaker 4 (46:15):
Good afternoon, quarter past two. At what age should you
stop financially supporting your children? Great article in the papers
this morning, but love to hear from you on Oh
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Hey Lucy, oh hi, Hi,
very good. Great to check with you. So what's your
take on when to stop financially supporting children.

Speaker 12 (46:35):
Well, I've got.

Speaker 18 (46:36):
Four children and three in the twenties now, and they
have got through. I was a solo mum most of
the time and there wasn't a lot of option of
me supporting them fully. They got part time jobs from
about sixteen around school, which gave them a really good
sense of value of what money is, because that's when

(46:59):
they wanted to start going out, partying, drinking, buying a car.

Speaker 9 (47:03):
All that stuff.

Speaker 18 (47:05):
So they did buy cars. I would help them with that,
but they had pay for their petrol and I'd go
halves with them in the maintenance. One of them wrote
a car off, but he didn't bother replacing that one
again because they realized that was really extensive. One of them.

Speaker 6 (47:21):
I was there.

Speaker 18 (47:22):
They all ended up wanting to go to university, which
was amazing, but there was no way I could front
all of that so obviously they were going to have
to take student loans and they had to be well
responsible for that, and so I knew that if that's
what they were going to do, they had to learn
a good way of budgeting from budgeting that student loan

(47:43):
from word dot. And they all had part time jobs.
I'm aware that it's getting harder and harder for kids
get part time these days that you need, but they
are around. I just don't think people try hard enough.
I think anyway, that's my opinion on the job thing.
I do think there are jobs around. You have to

(48:04):
push a pedal a bit harder, that's all. They all
had parts of jobs, and they I taught them how
to set up. I basically told them how I budgeted,
and that was that I had a house account, a
spending account, a food account, a health account, a traveling account,
and a you know, our account. I have a lot

(48:26):
of accounts, but that worked for me. And they they
still do it, all three of them they are, and
two of them are in London now and ones in Melbourne.
They all still They're so funny.

Speaker 10 (48:38):
You know.

Speaker 18 (48:38):
My younger said to me, well, Mom, I've saved enough
in my travel account. Go to London for three weeks
from last summer, and she's only one year into working
in a full time job. She's almost paid off a
student loan. The other two, by the age of twenty four,
had paid off their student loans. I just think it's
it's about training from the parents.

Speaker 19 (48:58):
I'm afraid it is.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Yeah, that's that's a really good point that you're saying
about the accounts though, you know, like I've just recently
read that very popular book James clear as The Tom Cabits,
and one of the things he says in there that
I think is brilliant is that you automate as much
stuff as you can. So if you set up those
accounts and that money is put into those accounts, so
you automate good habits. Yeah, so you can't spend it
because you've made that one decision once, so you don't

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have to you don't have to keep making that decision.
You've made that good decision by setting up those accounts
and setting up the you know that the transfer into
those accounts automatically, and then that that good habit just
repeats itself.

Speaker 4 (49:34):
Yeah. But is clearly you've done, Lucy, is that you've
taught your kids very well on how to manage life
and money and all the rest of it. But if
they got into a little bit of debt, and they
got into some trouble and it came to you and said, Mum,
I've got into debt. I don't know how i can
pay it back. The interest is, you know, ramping up.
Would you bail them out at that point? Would you say,

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you've got to figure this out.

Speaker 18 (49:59):
I've done it both ways. Actually, one of them has
come to me with that, and I did did bail
them out a little bit. It was a few grands,
but I did charge them a bit of interest, but
it was less than the bank. But it's too easy
for them. A bank of mom and dad is sometimes
not a good idea.

Speaker 4 (50:20):
Yeah, but if that's a lesson in itself, and clearly
you've you've done, you know, all the right things for
your children. But if that's the lesson in itself, and say,
this is what happens when you take on debt and
you can't pay it back, treated as a lesson learned.
But this will be the last time I bage you
out for something like that.

Speaker 18 (50:36):
Yeah, it's really I've got friends that have bailed and
bailed and bailed and not doing well. I mean, look
at it's look at it. It's like training a training
a puppy, Isn't it exactly the same. You've just got
to be quite strict and consistent and stick to the
game plan and they come up. Look, I mean, I'm
very proud of my kids. They've all got great jobs,

(50:57):
and they've all basically paid off their student lines and
I can get on them. And they were in their
mid twenty so they you know, that's this generation.

Speaker 19 (51:06):
Isn't it.

Speaker 3 (51:08):
That's that sounds like you though, Lucy.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
It sounds like you've set them up because you know,
isn't good parenting creating competent adults?

Speaker 5 (51:15):
Really?

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Isn't that the whole thing, the whole zero to eighteen?
And there's a lot of heartache and ups and downs
and fights, but the general, the general mission statement is
to make competent adults. So out the other end of
the you know, the sausage machine comes a competent adult.
And it sounds like that's that's what you've done.

Speaker 18 (51:33):
I mean, you know, we had a pretty tough start
to our life with the kids and things with for
various reasons which I won't go into on the phone,
but you know, they knew that things were. It was
pretty tough, and so they didn't get handled on the
planet like a lot of their friends. And I think
it's been I think it's been.

Speaker 7 (51:52):
A good thing.

Speaker 14 (51:52):
Really.

Speaker 18 (51:53):
I think the tougher it is, the more you're the
better lessons you learn.

Speaker 10 (51:58):
Yeah unfortunately, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
Well thank you so much for all, Lucy. I wonder
about student loans is an interesting one, right, so you
know your kid can get a student loan and they
can pay for the university, or if you're lucky enough
to have enough money, you can pay for the university.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
I wonder what is more of a motivator to do better.
Is it a motivation that your parents have paid for it,
so then you can't let them down because that money's
come from something, you know, like someone that you love, yeah,
and you know you owe them something for that. Or
is it that you get a student loan and therefore
you're going to have to pay it back so that
is more meaningful for you. I actually think that when

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you're eighteen, you've got no concept of what a student
loan is. No, it's just some money that's come from
the sky and some future person, some future old person
is going to pay it for you being yourself.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
That's what that's it as one hundred percent.

Speaker 4 (52:47):
When I took on that student loan and I think
it was seven K a year plus the living allowance,
and I didn't see that as tens of thousands of dollars.
That was just oh, your money. I saw it down
the track until I think I got into my third
year of university and saw the total. One thought, oh
oh oh. But'd love to hear from you on one
hundred eighty ten eighty nine two nine two is the
text number?

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Yeah, what's the Is the best time to cut your
kids off? Is it right on eighteen? Or do you
just slowly let it drift out and keep bailing them
out with all their mistakes so they never learn anything.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
That's a leading there's a leading question there from me.

Speaker 4 (53:20):
It's a good leading question. Two passed two.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty on news Talk ZEDB.

Speaker 4 (53:33):
Twenty five past two.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
We're talking about when it's time to stop financially supporting
your children. I've got a bit of a shameful story
from my life that I feel very guilty about because
I'm very very grateful my parents bringing me up. But
I was, you know, I was just about turn eighteen
and I was packing all my stuff into the boot
of my car.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
And then my dad came over and he goes, oh,
what's going on here? And he goes, oh, I'm moving out,
And he goes, you're moving out? I said, yeah, yeah,
I've got a I was moving into a bank vault
in the city. Like I'd found this little place I
could sleep in in the corner of this building on
Vogel Street, and yeah.

Speaker 4 (54:07):
Very cool.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
It's just no, it's horrible. It's freezing.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
But I was moving out, and you know, I didn't
think about that at the time, just loaded the stuff up,
and I was thinking, why was he hastling me here?

Speaker 3 (54:16):
Like was he asking me what I'm doing?

Speaker 2 (54:17):
And then it didn't for years and years, and then
it struck me he'd sacrificed so much to put a
roof over my head. The car I was driving was
one he'd bought me. You know, it wasn't much, it
was very call Actually was a Mark two courteena.

Speaker 4 (54:29):
Beautiful, very cool calvolic.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
Not complaining about that, but.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
All that effort had gone into my life and all
that heartache and worry and turning up to sports and
you know, sitting down with reports and then I just going.

Speaker 4 (54:45):
See you dad.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
So that's where going. That's the other side of it.
So you know, you can say, when do you financially
support your cut off your children? What about the children
that just worn out?

Speaker 4 (54:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (54:55):
I mean in my case, we lived on a farm
out of town, so it was just miles away. Mainly,
I just wanted to be able to be near my friends.
That's really why I want to move out, you know.

Speaker 4 (55:04):
And fair enough to when you're eighteen. But did you
ever a chat with your dad and say, hey, this
is coming up, I'm about to move out.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
No, no, ten at all.

Speaker 4 (55:11):
He has glue.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Yeah, he just came to see what are you doing?
I don't even think ye, And then but I did
apologize to him, like only recently.

Speaker 4 (55:18):
The brains of eighteen year olds though, right, yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Yeah, and we're not because I just as my kids
got older, I was thinking, oh my god, what if
my kids did to me what I did to them?

Speaker 3 (55:27):
Have they just went rams?

Speaker 12 (55:28):
Are you?

Speaker 16 (55:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (55:29):
Jeez? Terrible?

Speaker 4 (55:31):
Eight one hundred and eighty ten eighties ennoble to call
get a nick.

Speaker 8 (55:35):
Good afternoon, gentlemen.

Speaker 4 (55:36):
How are you very good? What do you reckon about
the banker mom and dad?

Speaker 8 (55:42):
Yeah, I think I think the time to stop, well,
you'd never stop supporting them, but effectively cut over the
ongoing contributions is once I start working. But I concur
with your your earlier caller. I remember, we've got two
girls now mid twenties and early twenties who have both

(56:07):
taken very different paths. But when they were around fifteen
years old, the school they went to, the secondary school
they went to at the time had no school uniforms,
so you know, there was very much a case of
those and the designer clothes and those not and the
and the pressure pressure that was on. And it was

(56:30):
also about the same time when schools started or created
bring your own device. And I'll never forget that because
I was like, okay, boxing, they say we'll go and
buy a HP or no, six hundred bucks or whatever.
So our kids would have laptops for school and they
were like, oh no, Dad, no, we don't want that.

(56:52):
We want a Mac Pro here. He was probably twenty
four hundred or something at the time. So we strongly
encouraged them to go and get a part by job,
and they both worked in a supermarket, inning good money.
We'll go way out to superses and balance all of that,
and then proceeded to so they could they could top

(57:15):
up and you know, if they wanted a Mac Pro,
they could pay the two grand difference, which they did,
and they could afford to go and get latest iPhones
and we would pay for you.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
Know, well, this was with us when they had those jobs,
when they were still at school. Now, yep, yeah, that's
good and.

Speaker 8 (57:38):
Still budgeting skills like your your previous caller had said.
And yeah, it's worked to a point. Our oldest daughters
just come back from two years snowboarding in Canada with
her her friends. She she's very good on budgeting. She
has money for travel and money and separate accounts and

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it's very disciplined.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
Where did you did you have a word to her
about the budgeting? Did you did you talk through that?

Speaker 8 (58:07):
She hated me for it, said, probably six months. I said,
I hated you for that, Dad, But you know, I
look at where I am now, and I've got money
in the bank, and I've paid off my car and
I'm traveling overseas and she's got always encouraging quite as
much as they can and Key week Savor where it's out.
Our youngest daughter went through UNI and then that are

(58:29):
Masters and she still supported herself through that and is
paying a student loan. But our eldest daughter's just back
for this for six months and she's like, Okay, what
can I pay? And we said, look, just just cover
our costs, just food, and I think it's one hundred
and twenty bucks a week or something. We don't want
to make any money out of her, but she's she's

(58:51):
disciplined in that she's used to being in a flat
and contributing and there's no reason why that should stop otherwise.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
Well, have you ever had to bail any of your
kids out?

Speaker 8 (59:05):
Absolutely? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Youngest one we have she was
in a flat for a year and the relationship broke
up and unfortunately her and her partner at the time
had just signed on for another year and he moved out,

(59:28):
so there was break fees and it was a couple
of thousand. So yes, yeah, I mean you have to.

Speaker 3 (59:35):
Did you make her pay that back.

Speaker 10 (59:39):
Nice?

Speaker 4 (59:40):
Fair enough?

Speaker 3 (59:41):
Do you think, because you know, this is kind of
what we're talking about here.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
Do you think it would have been better for her
if you had in terms of learning a less in
life the hard reality of financial situations if you hadn't paid.

Speaker 8 (59:54):
Absolutely, But the you know, you've got to look at
the mental health at the time as it was pushing
a lesson, if that's going to tip somebody.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
Over, and also your mental health as well, because cutting
your kit off in that kind of situation when you
could pay for them going full tough love that that
that's tough for a parent to do because you are
you have created a life around looking after them and
providing for them and making a safe and beautiful world
for them to then just go, Okay, you've messed up

(01:00:23):
on your flat. I'm not helping you out. You're going
to have to just do what you need to do
to sort that out. That that's tough. That would be
tough for a parent.

Speaker 8 (01:00:31):
It's probably it's not worth the grief, to be honest. Yeah,
and I think we you know the money that it costs.
We ended up putting on credit card and we just
paid it off. But yeah, look, I think once once
the kids are earning money, if they if they need
a bit of a bit of a hand. But I

(01:00:53):
remember years agoing on. I'm over sixty now, but I
remember my father loaned me some money a long time
ago when I was very young, and he set up
a whole sort of spreadsheet and said, okay, TA want
you to pay one hundred a month or whatever it
was in those days, and didn't charge me interest, but
he made damn sure I paid it. So I think

(01:01:15):
that was instilled in me and encouraged me to try
and do the same with our kids.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
I think so much for call next sounds like you're
a great dad.

Speaker 4 (01:01:24):
Yeah, great call one hundred and eighty ten eighty is
the number. Call love to hear from you. When is
it time to stop financially supporting your children? Love to
hear your stories if you've still got children living at home,
and clearly it is a harder time than it has
been for a long time for kids in their twenties
if they want to try and get on the property ladder.
The job market's pretty tight at the moment. So I

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love to hear from you on eight hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
And eighty How much so you're charging? You charging them?

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
And we've got a text here, who's got an impressively
old child living off a mother very good.

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Speaker 4 (01:03:19):
Thank you very much. Ray Lane twenty three to three,
and we are asking the question when is at the
right time to stop financially supporting your child an article
which has an expert, Linda Moore. She's a psychologist and
an accountant, and she effectively argued, by the time they
get a full time job, cart them off.

Speaker 5 (01:03:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
It talks a lot about having conversations with your kids,
and there's an example given of a child's like twenty
and they've come back from overseas and they say, I'm
just going to stay with you for a while and
never bring up exactly what they're paying at that point,
and then it's seven eight months later, two years later,
they're still living there and you've never bought up that
they should be putting some money in. But it also

(01:04:01):
talks about the idea of if you've got kids that
are stay at home, and a lot of people are
because it's harder for them to get out there. So
kids are still living in their room and paying something.
But also you've got you know, if they're living in
a house. They've got us.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
They've got to help out, you know, they be they've
got to be helping in the kitchen. If they're an adult,
you know, like just a flat like a flatmate would
like a flatmate that doesn't do anything at all, help
in the garden. You know, there has to be more.
There has to be more to it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:25):
I mean, it just makes the argument here and this
is spot on. For example, if your adult child is
paying less than a third of rent but still going
on holidays, you can't afford to take a trip yourself.
That's a very fair point that it can't be going
on guys holidays.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Sat parent there, you're just sitting at home. You're you're
you're supporting them, and then you are twenty one year
old kids going away on a holiday and you have
to cancel yours hard and.

Speaker 4 (01:04:47):
Up parent, Thanks for the free rent.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
I'm off to RaRo the Texas is I have a
brother fifty, never worked. Dana's life, lived off the eighty
year old mother his entire life. She can never say
no and put her foot down. Refuge support from the
family to deal with this. He now lives on his
own island. Had a million spent on him. Now his
kids are doing the same to their grandmother. Say no
earlier on or you're paying for life. It's so sad,

(01:05:10):
frustrating to see that's from a loving son.

Speaker 5 (01:05:12):
So hang on.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
So this guy's lump, he's got. He's lived with his
mum till she's eighty, and now he's moved his kids
in with the mum.

Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
That's and what did the mom do for him to
have his own island and a million dollar spent on him?

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
We can't he lives on his own I don't think
he lives on it. Oh I thought there was a metaphor.
Oh maybe it is like I sort of I'm a
rock on an island. Like he lives on an island.

Speaker 4 (01:05:32):
He's marooned from the family, rather than has his own island.
I think you're right. I think that is an analogy
rather than an extra island.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
If he has an island, if he has his own island,
well done? Is this Richard Branson's brother.

Speaker 4 (01:05:45):
Keep those takes coming through? On nine to nine two?
Should we go to the phone?

Speaker 20 (01:05:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
Just one more here in the text. We've got so
many coming through.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
I will be eternally grateful for the help financially even
when I was working, my mum and dad gave me,
especially now they have both gone.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
Phil. Yeah, I mean, you know, obviously it can work
out sometimes, you know, if you're grateful for it.

Speaker 4 (01:06:06):
Absolutely, Jane, how are you well?

Speaker 6 (01:06:10):
Yeah, I'll go from a I'm near retiring. When I
came up as a young fellow, my dad used to
lend money, but it was always an interest, so it
became a business stal. It wasn't a it was a
business stal. So of course you had to pay it

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back because it was with interest.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
Did he go for a market rate or did he
really screw you down? U?

Speaker 4 (01:06:43):
It's up there and and.

Speaker 6 (01:06:46):
But as I got older, I could always go back
to him because I always paid it back. I could
always go to him. I could, I could loan up
to fifty grand off him, and did you because he
knew that I had a history of paying it back.
Now I've got my kids and I've helped them out,

(01:07:08):
and my oldest is forty five, and I've then got
my neck ones down.

Speaker 11 (01:07:14):
They've got kids, but they live at home.

Speaker 6 (01:07:19):
But I found the difference, that's my middle son. I
find that I will whenever he asks for money, I
will give it to him because he helps with building.
He does things carpentry and that, which sort of pays
it off, and he pays his bills off, and he
pays his way. My daughter I don't need to lend

(01:07:43):
any money to because she makes her own. My eldest son,
he makes more than all of us. Yet he's continually
borrowing money off. If it's trying us, he'll try his sister,
but he still owes them. And I often have to
say to him when he goes and buys something new,

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I said, why did you use your sister's money to
buy that? Are?

Speaker 5 (01:08:10):
How old is he?

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
He's forty forty five, still borroing money for sister that's
not on.

Speaker 6 (01:08:17):
Yeah, and he'll buy stuff for himself. And as I says,
I says, why are you using your sister's money, he says,
it's not it's my money. I says, no, you owe
her money. Yeah, you're using our money to buy it,
and you're not paying her back.

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
Did she put any interest on the money she buried
her brother?

Speaker 6 (01:08:39):
Well, she's nice, but you've also got the bank of Mum,
and you've got the bank of bad. Yeah, Mum will
see a little low rates for rent and for board,
and I'll ask her.

Speaker 21 (01:08:53):
I says, well, how much it's tallium? And she told me,
and I go, you're joking.

Speaker 4 (01:08:59):
So what are we talking to you? Just just a
perceived or something, you know, nothing much, But effectively they're
giving him free money.

Speaker 6 (01:09:06):
Yes, yeah, and that's the thing. And I find anlesss
with my middle son. He will do stuff without being asked.
He will pay back money, and he will build stuff
which would have cost me money.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
Do you set a formal when when you give him money?
Do you set a formal you know, schedule of work
that he has to do to pay it back? Or
is he just in credit because he does so much,
he's in credit and I.

Speaker 22 (01:09:31):
Don't need to give him any work. He'll just go
and do it without king or or expecting. Yeah, so
you know, so he can come up to me and so, Dad,
can I have twenty grand? If we got twenty grand,
we'll go yes, because we know that it will get returned.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
Well that's that's that's you know, he set himself up
in a good way there, you know, prove himself. I
wonder what happened if I asked my little sister for
some money, to borrow some money she would.

Speaker 4 (01:09:59):
My siblings would tell me to bug around.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
No way they'd give me any money.

Speaker 4 (01:10:02):
What is it for new quad by get get out
of TI.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
Because they don't trust me, just because they'll be like,
get out your own money.

Speaker 4 (01:10:08):
If they've put ten percent on it, though, they'd probably
say yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
I'd been interesting to find out how many parents make
money out of their kids. So they've got all these
things where in most people that are texting through and
ringing on e one hundred and eighteen eighty, so they've
got their kids staying at home potentially and living and
paying some rent. A lot of it seems just to
make a point that they need to be paying something

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because they're in their twenties.

Speaker 4 (01:10:33):
Yeah, but it's at leasten in life that you have
to rentaint freeze, so you contribute a little bit to
have a nice room and three meals a day.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
Yeah, but I wonder how many parents are charging market
value and making actually making a bit of money from
having their kids home.

Speaker 4 (01:10:48):
I think you should if you're a period, because.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
Under that kind of situation, you might go, well, i've
got three kids, I'll get them home. We'll make some
good coin here, and you start selling the place to
your kids, try and bring them back.

Speaker 4 (01:10:58):
If that's you love to hear from you on eight
hundred eighty ten eighty nine two nine two is the
text number.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
When is it time to stop financially supporting your children?

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
Have a chat with the lads on eight hundred eighty
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Speaker 4 (01:11:18):
That'd be good afternoon thirteen to three, having a great
discussion about when should you, if ever, financially stop supporting
your children?

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
This text from nineteen nine two get a Tyler and
Maddie quality show as always.

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
Thanks.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
I had to read that we have a twenty two
and a nineteen year old still living at home, both
studying and working part time, but wouldn't dream of charging
them board. They are both very responsible financially and I've
always felt that the family home is sacrosanct. Although this
means that we have to live fairly lean, sometimes it's
well worth it, just a small way of helping out

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our children. Thank you for your text being nice and
I've got this other theory on this whole thing right, Okay,
always got my punishing theories.

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
But here's another one.

Speaker 8 (01:12:00):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
It was very hard for me staying living with my
parents because they were very different from me. There are
at different stage in their life and all that kind
of stuff. But our parents, because culture hasn't changed that much.
We're into the same music, the same TV shows, the
same you know, we're into a lot of the same stuff.
We're kind of on the same page. Me and my kids,
so iking them, hang out with them, and I feel

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like my oldest son has become a mate now.

Speaker 4 (01:12:24):
Yeah, so it's almost like a flat mate.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
So you know that whole cliche. I can't wait till
the kids get out.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
It was a whole whole thing in sitcoms that that
you just wanted the kids out of the house so
you could have the time for you and your misses
to live a new life. Now I think more and
more soft parents like me are like, I quite like
having the kids around.

Speaker 3 (01:12:41):
Please don't. They're actually pretty cool to have around. They're
quite fun. You can have free reads, free foods. Don't
don't leave me on my own, don't leave us jack.
Care were you this afternoon?

Speaker 10 (01:12:54):
Good guys, How are you doing all right?

Speaker 8 (01:12:56):
Yeah? Good?

Speaker 4 (01:12:56):
Thank you, and what are you reckon about this one?
You your son had to learn some lessons.

Speaker 10 (01:13:02):
Yeah, well, I I've got two boys and best friends
with them bost at the moment where we have been
for our whole life. But one of them, he had
always had a part time job, paid for everything himself
right through his studies. I was like, you need a
handmade No, Dad, I'm all good. The other one he
was at the university and chopped and changed his degree
that he was doing, and then he and we were
supporting him, and then he dropped out of university and

(01:13:23):
I said, well, you're going to have to get yourself
a job. Bunch of yeah, yeah, yeah, because he was
creating Yeah. And about a couple of weeks Rings said, hey, Dad,
I need some money for some food. And I said,
have you got a job yet? He goes no, and
I said, all right, we'll give you some money from
some food. A couple of weeks later, the same thing happened,
and I said, right, that's the last lot you need
to get a job, and he goes, you know, Rings
me out. A couple of weeks later he says, Dad,

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look I've only got two minute noodles and they're cupboard
and I'm starving. And I said, have you got a
job yet? He goes no, no, And I said if
you have pried for it. He goes no, I've been
a bit busy. And I said I would have been
doing and he said hanging out with mates and doing
all that sort of stuff. So I said, well, you know,
enjoy your noodles. And then seen him a few tures.
He rings me out the game and said, Dad, look

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i'm starving. I'm only just paying for a rent. And
I said, hey, you got my emailed, didn't you. He
said you were the jobs? He says yea, And he
said I'm too good for those jobs. Dad, I don't
even apply. And I said, you keep enjoying. This happened
a couple of times and I said, don't bring me
and ask for money. I should go get off your
butt and go and get some work. And you know,

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there was a there was a bit cold there for
a little while. And anyway, herings me out one day
and he's checked away and he said, oh, Dad, I've
applied for this job. And I said that's good, mate,
and he said I haven't got it yet. And I said,
I'll give you some money for some food, and he goes,
you and I haven't got a job. And I said,
you've applied for a job. You've made an effort. And
he goes, oh, oh, thanks Dad. And then the way

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I got himself a job and he's actually a police officer.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
Now that's quality parenting there is That is what you've
described here is quality parenting. There's there's consequences, you know,
and it will be actually much easier for you to
just buying food and you wouldn't have to worry about him,
but you have to actually do hard stuff every now
and then as a parent.

Speaker 10 (01:15:07):
Yet, Yeah, well I so terrible doing this. But we
were talking about it the other day and he said
I hated you, but he said that's the best lesson
he ever taught me.

Speaker 5 (01:15:20):
Dad.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
Yeah, that's awesome, Jack. And now he's a police officer.
Tell you what, there's another flip side of this appear
what I did, which was terrible. So I, you know,
as I said before, I just zoomed down the drive.
But then I would just cruise back home in my car,
unload my washing into the washing machine and dryer, and
then just load cans of food into my backpack.

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
Ah, and then not only did.

Speaker 4 (01:15:43):
You buger off and your dad sort of thinking where's
he going? Come back? Come back? And then you drop
off your laundry and take his food.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
Just pil and so hungover you couldn't talk to anyone.
Put your washing on, go back into your room, lie
down and listen to some music, and grab myself. I
have a lot of guilt for that, teenagers, because now
I'm a parent, I see how massively heartbreaking and disrespectful
that would have been.

Speaker 4 (01:16:04):
At least you learned right. We're gonna play some messages,
then we'll come back with more of your calls. It
is eight to three, the.

Speaker 5 (01:16:11):
Issues that affect you, and a bit of fun along
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Speaker 4 (01:16:22):
News talks. It'd be good afternoon, Abby. How are you good?

Speaker 3 (01:16:27):
Texts?

Speaker 14 (01:16:27):
How are you going?

Speaker 15 (01:16:28):
Guys?

Speaker 7 (01:16:28):
Good?

Speaker 17 (01:16:28):
Good?

Speaker 4 (01:16:29):
So you sound fairly young yourself. Are you Are you
still living with the parents, Abbie?

Speaker 16 (01:16:35):
No, No, I'm thirty three. I have kids on my
own now.

Speaker 4 (01:16:38):
Right, okay, okay, And what's your take on this?

Speaker 10 (01:16:42):
So?

Speaker 16 (01:16:43):
Yeah, my parents were I found it really great that.
From when I was about probably fourteen, it was they
were they paid for everything, like when I was at school,
like sports, anything I wanted to do that was to
do with school or whatever call they paid for. From
about fourteen fifteen, if I.

Speaker 7 (01:16:57):
Wanted to go out with my friends, if I wanted to.

Speaker 16 (01:16:59):
Do like the movies or bowling or anything like that,
you had to get a job. And then when I
was studying it was the same. It was like you
can live at home and you can eat from the
pantry and whatever, and that's fine, but if you want
a car, you have to have a job so you
can put petrel on it. And you have to have
a job if you want to go to parties or
whatever you want to do. So I always found that
really good. It was like a good lesson of like

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we'll support you, but you need to support yourself as well.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
Just a bit frustrating at the time as a child,
but such a great lesson. And did you struggle find
it to find a job, because that's the problem now
it's some people.

Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
Don't want to hire fifteen year olds and fourteen year olds.

Speaker 16 (01:17:32):
I think it's a lot harder. No, I used to
actually look after a girl in a wheelchair. I was
like her companion for a while in the school holidays,
and then I just saved that up. Yeah, and then
I got a job at Pizza Hut, and then I
wasn't studying, so I was an apprentice at the same
time I was studying.

Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
So yeah, and you are you still good with money?

Speaker 16 (01:17:49):
Abby beverage?

Speaker 21 (01:17:55):
Now right?

Speaker 16 (01:17:56):
Hard because we've got two kids and everything's expensive.

Speaker 5 (01:17:59):
But we try.

Speaker 3 (01:18:00):
Me good, Yeah, crime me good, hebby, Thank you so
much for your call.

Speaker 4 (01:18:03):
Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
of call just on the job front. I remember. I
think it's still like the student job suits. Does that exist?
But we never struggled to find a job. There was
always a fence to be painted or helping someone move,
So I don't know if that still exists.

Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
Did you live back in the depression era? You're a hobo.
You went from town to town with pretty much from
the nap.

Speaker 4 (01:18:22):
Had right eighty ten eighties and ump to cool. News
is next.

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
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and Taylor Adams afternoons with the Volvo x eighty on
News Talk.

Speaker 4 (01:18:36):
Sev Good afternoon. Do you welcome back into the show?
Six past three.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
We're about to get on to a very important topic,
which is binge watching shows as opposed to the weekly
shows that are coming out. A huge topic because in
my friend group, even when we're at the rugby at
Eden Park on the weekend, we were still talking about
White Lotus and our theories on where that's going. I
think a week to week show just means that you
get more enjoyment out of it bubbles rather than bingeing it.

(01:19:02):
And Netflix used to just dump the whole lot there.
But that's just before we go into that. We got
so many great texts in the last hour of the
time topic on when you should stop when the topic
was whiners at time to stop financially sporting your children,
And we got so many texts on there that we
didn't we didn't get to, so I thought we'd just
go through some of those now to finish it off
far out all these people. I'm twenty five and my
parents are living with me, just charge them a little

(01:19:24):
bit for food and power? What age do I cut
them off? I eight fifty two and fifty five.

Speaker 4 (01:19:30):
Great text? There you go, Good on you twenty five
and helping out your parents at fifty two and fifty five.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
Well you owe them, Yeah, yeah, owe your parents. They
brought you into the world, they feed you, they loved you.
So you actually owe your parents for their entire life.

Speaker 4 (01:19:42):
Yeah, you did pretty well for the first eighteen plus
years of your life.

Speaker 3 (01:19:45):
Well, I remember in arguments with my parents, I'd say,
it's not my fault, I'm here. You chose to have me,
and they'd go, well, we didn't really chose.

Speaker 10 (01:19:53):
To have you.

Speaker 4 (01:19:53):
A bit of it surprised, maybe a bit of a
heavy mistake.

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
Actions speak louder than words, and I have to say
with dollars, you've got to have the energy to get it.
So I would stop being supportive when a child, and
especially if an edit one becomes reliant and expects too
much does nothing for himself. It's a passive form of
stealing or scamming. Wow wow, right, there you go. And
speaking of stealing, this Texas says my dad was a
massive double brown drinker back when it was twenty beers

(01:20:19):
for twenty bucks. I to have a mammoth stack in
the shed. For some side cash, I'd sell a few
boxes to my mates who were underage. The old man
thought he was drinking too fast with his mates and
kept it stopped up for at least eighteen months. At
a time, I was making forty to sixty every weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
Cheers dad. Well it's the part of the Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:20:37):
I want to say well played, but if it's quite
well played, very clever, that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:41):
Doesn't seem grateful.

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
My sixty six, sixty five and six year old step
children expect us to steal financially support. We stopped it
in twenty twenty one and we really hear from them
now other than if they need something. We no longer
assist as we're covering our retirement needs. My advice assists
in education, and no more sixty six, sixty five and
sixty four year old step children expecting financial assistance.

Speaker 4 (01:21:03):
Yeah, if you haven't cut the apron springs by then,
you'd never go into If.

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
You're six five and you're a pensioner and you've still
got your hand out to your parents, you've got to
take a look in the mirror.

Speaker 8 (01:21:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:21:15):
I don't think they will ever stop if you haven't
learned by then.

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
Our son is fifteen and been working two years and
plays most of the stuff he wants other than basics,
very liberating and self sufficient experience for him.

Speaker 4 (01:21:25):
He's good at fifteen.

Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
I think that you know, when my son got a
part time job in a cafe, working in the KITCHENEP
he was lucky because the way that COVID, you know,
there was that period where there was no one to
work at all these jobs, you know, because the country
had been shut down, and so there was a lot
of good employment for fourteen or fifteen year olds there.
And he's just stayed in the same place. So he's

(01:21:48):
working in a cafe and he's now he's eighteen, he's
now the longest employee in that cafe, was working on
the weekends. But that understanding of money and the understanding
of the where money comes from, because until you've worked
an hour for minimum wage, yeah, minimum wage is pretty
spectacular these days. Until you've worked for an hour from

(01:22:09):
millionum wage and then done the equation between those that
junk food you're buying and how long it takes to
earn it, you don't really understand how the world works.

Speaker 4 (01:22:18):
No, he no, I mean when I got that job
at Sea Lords, I think I was sixteen, and they
were paying sixteen bucks an hour, that was mass of
money back in the day. And I think the only
thing I needed to do to get a job at
Sea Lords was past of your own test. It was
pretty easy be Then this one says Giday. Guys, I
have a few daughters, twenty one years old. She has
lived use for a couple of years and is self sufficient.

(01:22:40):
An eighteen year old and her boyfriend lived with me
and they pay one hundred and eighty bucks a week
for room cheap. Yeah, cover their own food, et cetera.
They have one hundred thousand CA deposit and a house
hunting good effort, I mean whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
Like a parent, if you support your kids, well, they're
getting their house deposit, then you ask for some equity
in the house, you'd.

Speaker 4 (01:23:01):
Be within your rights too, right. Good discussion, that's and
thank you very much for all the text and phone
calls on that. But let's have a chat about binge
watching versus the weekly installments.

Speaker 2 (01:23:13):
Yeah, so White Lotus is out at the moment, and
it's there's been accusations, a bit slow, but I find
it very tense. And I love the White Loaders series,
and we're in series three now, but that comes out
one a week. Yes, and so it plays, you watch it,
you wake a wait a whole week, and you watch
the next episode, And I think that makes the show better.
And I think that we've been sold a terrible way

(01:23:35):
to live your life with the binge watching. I think
watching ten episodes of a show in a row and
your laptop and your bed is just a disgusting, sloth
like way to live your life. It's like being an
adult edict. You're addicted to the next one. So even
if you have all of them, even if you come
to let's say the Sopranos years and years afterwards, and
you've got all of them, then I think the best

(01:23:55):
way you just need to watch one every here and there.

Speaker 4 (01:23:59):
You know what them is if you line them up
so like the White Lotus, for example, when everybody's talking
about it, fantastic show, good writing, got great acting. But
if you line them up, so I go without for
three weeks. And this is actually me that I've seen
the first episode of White Loatus. I still need to
catch up on those other two. Surely I can binge
watch a couple.

Speaker 5 (01:24:18):
In a row.

Speaker 3 (01:24:19):
Mate. You can do whatever you want. You can you
can do whatever you want.

Speaker 2 (01:24:23):
You can put them on on three TVs and watch
them simultaneous today if you want, yeah, I will. But
on my My point is there's something beautiful and the
old way shows used to be. You know, I used
to be a huge fan of The X Files, and
when the next episode came out, I'd be so excited.
The scarcity of it made it's so brilliant, whereas if

(01:24:44):
it's just like Stranger Things, it's dumped. Everyone just watches
it and you just feel like you're being force feed
junk food and then you just you just move on.

Speaker 3 (01:24:54):
So I say, weekly is the way to go.

Speaker 4 (01:24:56):
Reacher Reach a great series series of Reacher. YEP.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
First series of Reacher brilliant. Yeah, second series went off
the boiler, but I reckon. But third series is right back.

Speaker 4 (01:25:06):
They brought it back. The one that we at the moment.
Mixter Original Sin, which is kind of like a prelude
to Dixter, very very popular TV show, and it's good.
It is really good. What is it Dixter Original Sin?
So it goes back to almost Dexter's childhood and then
when he starts to get into the CSI unit within
the police department. And if you don't know what Dixter

(01:25:26):
is I'm not going to give any spoilers away here.
It's effectively about a character who moonlights as a good
serial killer, so he only dispatches bad, evil people. It's
great series, great series, but it does drop weekly and
that's quite frustrating.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
This is a huge coincidence that you bring this up
because the reason why, one of the main reasons why
I was thinking about this is my son's watching the
old series of Dexter, the original series of the one
hundred episodes that came out a while back, and there's
a huge recap of the previous week on the show
at the start, and my fifteen year old son was going,
why we know that?

Speaker 3 (01:26:03):
Why are they repeating all that stuff?

Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
And I was like, yeah, because in the old days,
you'd had to wait a whole week for the show,
so you may have forgotten that stuff and you actually
needed a proper, solid, solid catch.

Speaker 4 (01:26:14):
Up last week on Dexter, you had the old recap.
But love to hear from you on this one O
one hundred and eighty ten eighty. Have we gone a
bit crazy with the binge watching?

Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
Yeah, as binge watching sucking the life out of you?
And is it better to discuss the shows throughout the
week and.

Speaker 3 (01:26:29):
Try and get the most out of them.

Speaker 4 (01:26:30):
What was the last show you've watched, honestly.

Speaker 3 (01:26:34):
Wow, Clarkson's Farm.

Speaker 4 (01:26:35):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:26:37):
I was a late one to Clarkson's Farm, only discovered
it about three weeks ago, and the people have been
telling me to watch it for the longest time. And
then I didn't want to leave that far. I just
I loved it so much and now I understand why
people were talking about it for so long that I
just wanted to sit there and live in Clarkson's Farm
and hang out with all the characters. They became like
my family, and to the point where I was like,

(01:26:59):
I need to get back to a farm. So we
got an airbnb on a farm to go back and
hang out in a farm when I wasn't watching it.
And now I'm completely up to date and I cannot
wait for the.

Speaker 3 (01:27:09):
Next season, which I believe is out. And about about
two months.

Speaker 4 (01:27:13):
When you were getting to the last few episodes, it
got pretty hard for you. I mean you were texting everybody,
say what do you do when you get to the
end of Clarkson's Farm? Said, I know, mate, stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
This text from Ritchie great show normally, but these recent
comments have made me very angry. White Lotus seriously good
writing and acting?

Speaker 3 (01:27:29):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 2 (01:27:30):
It's mindless jelly meat for the human brain. Ut a garbage, sad,
sad sad. Richie good text, Richie, good text.

Speaker 3 (01:27:39):
We've lost We've lost Richie.

Speaker 4 (01:27:40):
Yeah, sorry Richie, Ritchie. We're keen to hear from you though.
Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty what are
your binge watching? On this one here? Dextera is the
absolute best series ever made, yep I mentioned texta original
sin that has just come out.

Speaker 3 (01:27:52):
And this text here on nineteen nine two.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
Hi, guys, binge watching is for losers unless it's Clarkson's
Farm or Yellowstone regards, Craig, I agree with you, Craig,
I think we could be friends.

Speaker 4 (01:28:01):
Oh eight, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. It is sixteen past three, good afternoon, team
past three binge watching versus waiting each week for the
episode to drop. That is the question, and plenty of
texts coming through on nine two nine to two. Ghiddo, guys.
The only binge worthy series is Reach Your an absolute

(01:28:23):
banger from us.

Speaker 3 (01:28:24):
I'll reach it is so good.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
They did this, They've done this servant to what men
like to watch, and this is this is the perfect
show for a man. Right, we'll get to your phone
calls and your text in a second. But just punishing
little thing.

Speaker 3 (01:28:37):
I read that with you.

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
But they found out that the ultimate show for men
and it's called dad TV. And it's when a guy
it's really good at stuff who doesn't want any credit,
turns up somewhere, protects some women and children and maybe
some vulnerable people through ultra violence, and then leaves town
without getting any credit.

Speaker 3 (01:28:58):
It slight the equalizer with Denzel Washington or Reacher a
little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:29:02):
John Wick, Yeah, I'd concur with that, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
Yeah, just just doesn't want doesn't want any glory, just
this spots are wrong and then kills a lot of
people and then gets.

Speaker 3 (01:29:12):
On a bus out of town and we love it.

Speaker 4 (01:29:13):
Mister Nobody was another one that was very soilar That
was a great movie. Yes, oh, e one hundred and
eighty ten eighty. I think we've got Sandy on the line.

Speaker 19 (01:29:23):
Sandy there, you're going.

Speaker 4 (01:29:25):
Yeah, good, are you a binge watcher?

Speaker 12 (01:29:29):
Uh?

Speaker 19 (01:29:30):
Sort of in the middle. Okay, what we do is
it's found a good show and and the wife. We
usually watch one episode every night, you know, yep, so
Monday night through that. And then it also gives you
the chance that when there is that cliff haanger at
the end, you're wondering, what the heck is going to

(01:29:51):
happen next, Let's just watch the second one share, That'll
be it with the binges, watching will be too in
a row. Usually it's just every.

Speaker 2 (01:29:59):
Night I'll allow in a row, allowed to in a
row because but but but when you start watching, like so,
you start watching the show, there's there's ten episodes and
you just screamed through it. What start watching while you're
watching dinner and then you start at three am in
the morning, I think that's just leaves you.

Speaker 3 (01:30:16):
It's like it leaves you with the TV show hangover.

Speaker 19 (01:30:20):
I don't think you take it in probably mean the
storylines and what's going on when you do binging.

Speaker 21 (01:30:26):
Yeah, have you guys watched Slow Horses yet?

Speaker 3 (01:30:29):
That is the great show?

Speaker 2 (01:30:30):
Oh my god, Gary Olman that his character in that
show is just one of the greatest characters that have
ever been the TV show. I haven't got the I
started reading the book for the book of.

Speaker 19 (01:30:40):
Yeah, I think another season is coming out this year.

Speaker 4 (01:30:43):
Yeah, to watch Slow Horses.

Speaker 3 (01:30:45):
The books, the books it's based on are really good
as well.

Speaker 19 (01:30:49):
Between watch that one.

Speaker 4 (01:30:51):
No, I've seen the clips of it though. That's the
Australian TV series where he is what's his role? I
mean he works for the mob, doesn't any.

Speaker 19 (01:31:01):
Well, he's a bound throughout a nightclub and he's basically
a hit man for high for anyone really right, Yeah, got,
that's another good mister in between is its mate? It's
between the good one the list definitely. Yeah, Yeah, horses
are one of the greatest thing.

Speaker 5 (01:31:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
The box are called slough House and they're thereby mckherron,
and then the books are really good. But actually I
think the TV show you want to watch the TV
show first before you read the box, which.

Speaker 3 (01:31:31):
Is normally around the other way. It's huge just because
Gary Olman's performance is just so.

Speaker 19 (01:31:36):
Good and character.

Speaker 3 (01:31:38):
It's crazy Lamb, he's Jackson Lamby. He's a bad man.
He's a bad man.

Speaker 4 (01:31:44):
I'm just having a look at reviews now far out
rave reviews. So that that's great, that's great.

Speaker 2 (01:31:51):
We need more bosses like that, right, Sandy. I mean
the way I mean anyone that's watched Slow Horses that
the way it starts that this is the first shot
of the first episode is and he's passed out drunk
on it on his desk, and then he wakes himself
up by breaking wind.

Speaker 3 (01:32:09):
You know, it's classy stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:32:10):
Very good.

Speaker 4 (01:32:11):
I eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Do you binge watch or do you try and wait
each week to watch one episode as Matt tries to do.

Speaker 2 (01:32:21):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying now. I'm saying that binge
watching is a week way to watch television. You're an
addict and you're treating TV like a junk food, but
like white lotus, at the moment you watch one a
week comes out, you discuss your theories with your friends
like deep intellectuals at a French cafe, and then it
comes out and then you savor it and.

Speaker 4 (01:32:41):
Savor it like a fine wine scarcity.

Speaker 3 (01:32:44):
It's like Auto Man. When I was a cat, the
show only came out once a week on a Friday,
and it was so important to me, my base my
entire life around it.

Speaker 4 (01:32:54):
Right, there's a series I'm going to ask you about
very shortly, but keen to hear from you. I eight
hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to cool. Nine
two nine two is the text number. It's twenty three
past three.

Speaker 1 (01:33:07):
Matt Heath and Tyler afternoons. Call oh eight hundred eighty
eighty on Youth Talk ZB.

Speaker 4 (01:33:12):
Good afternoon, twenty six past three, and we're talking about
binge watching a series versus waiting each week to watch
an episode.

Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
The text here says, when you're talking about a show,
could you tell us which platform it's on? And look,
I want to share with you something that changed my life.
It's this website and app called just Watch, and it's
a free service. But you can just go to just
watch dot com, or you can go or just downlide
the app on your phone and it'll tell you where

(01:33:40):
a show is streaming in New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (01:33:43):
So give me give me a.

Speaker 4 (01:33:44):
Show Breaking Bad.

Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
So Breaking Bad entered in and it'll go boom boom boom,
Breaking Bad. It's got five seasons on Neon and or
you can buy it. Yeah, so five just tells you
it's on Neon is.

Speaker 4 (01:33:59):
Good white lotus.

Speaker 2 (01:34:01):
There you go and say, because you know, one of
the most common conversations that you have is someone going,
where is that?

Speaker 3 (01:34:07):
Where are you watching that?

Speaker 2 (01:34:08):
You'll flick through and you go, I can't remember where
did I see this? Was on Disney Plus, it was
on Netflix? Where do I see this?

Speaker 3 (01:34:13):
Just use just Watch. It's like, honestly, I can't believe
the service exists.

Speaker 4 (01:34:17):
It's a game change.

Speaker 3 (01:34:18):
I don't know why they're getting out of it.

Speaker 2 (01:34:19):
I don't know what just Watch is getting out of
this whole thing because there's no ads on it.

Speaker 3 (01:34:24):
I don't know how it works. Maybe the streaming services
pay them.

Speaker 4 (01:34:26):
If you're involved in just Watch, give us a buzz.

Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
Yeah, So it's got anything that's on Disney, Netflix, Amazon, Neon, Apple,
Google YouTube, everything, Netflix, Kids TV, and z Plus.

Speaker 3 (01:34:41):
It's incredible.

Speaker 4 (01:34:42):
Ah, right, But look at how many streaming sites there are.
I mean there's the basics Disney, Netflix, Prime Video, Neon,
Apple TV, Google Play, YouTube, Premium, Dot Play, Microsoft, Mobe,
m Ubi TV, and z of course Acorn TV far out.
There's a lot to choose from these days.

Speaker 3 (01:34:58):
Yeah, I mean, you could bank wrap yourself just by
subscribing to all these platforms. Oh eight hundred TV used
to be free.

Speaker 2 (01:35:05):
You just set too used to what you had to
watch ads to pay for it, so it sort of
paid for itself or self habituating you're watching it. They
made money of you by watching adds. Yeah, they've cut
that out now and there you just have to pay.

Speaker 4 (01:35:18):
Eighty is the number. Call hello, Sue? How are you?

Speaker 12 (01:35:23):
Oh hol Tla today?

Speaker 17 (01:35:26):
Sue?

Speaker 4 (01:35:26):
Now, you prefer watching them as they come out as
and when they drop once a week. You line that
up as a bit of an event.

Speaker 12 (01:35:35):
Yes, yes, it's I am only on free of you,
like a honor of a soldieres. But I'm listening. I
think I'm a dollar roots and I'll tell you why.
Recently there have been some really really good tramas on
TV one surprisingly like for example, Baits versus The post Office,

(01:36:01):
the Locker b one which was on last night. I
think the finals next week tonight. Here's one for you eyes,
part one of missus Bobberts. So it'll be it'll be
tonight and properly next Monday.

Speaker 3 (01:36:17):
And then what's what's miss Bobbitt?

Speaker 19 (01:36:22):
Well?

Speaker 12 (01:36:23):
I think for I think who other half was playing
hard the sausage and she cut it off?

Speaker 3 (01:36:30):
Well, I see are the famous? Are the famous Bobbit's right?

Speaker 12 (01:36:38):
Caro will wait to see that.

Speaker 3 (01:36:40):
It's the most one of the most shocking.

Speaker 4 (01:36:42):
I'm just reading now John and Lorena Bobbit. That will
be a hell of a watch.

Speaker 3 (01:36:47):
I remember John Bobbitt. I forgot who I forgot the
cut here John.

Speaker 4 (01:36:52):
John did survive, didn't he?

Speaker 3 (01:36:55):
Things got after that. I think he went into the business.

Speaker 12 (01:37:00):
He would have become a monk or something. But Tuesday,
the garner's back on him. That's very good. But my
other on the dollar its way. I've got a real
hankering to watch music, you see, and you've got You've
got two excellent channels. You've got Juice TV and Big

(01:37:21):
Worg on free V. And over the weekend I was
watching clips like Burne's watching George Sarah good with I
Drink a Line and Bear to the Bone, all that
type of stuff. They have a lot of blues, they
have a lot of they have country, they have you know,

(01:37:44):
the old disco and all. They have all a variety.
But on a Saturday night they usually have you know,
Saturday Night Fever. You get a lot of the old
frow American groups from music Guy, and it's really really
worth the watch.

Speaker 2 (01:38:02):
So there you guys, Ben's watching music videos. That's what
I spent most of my youth doing.

Speaker 4 (01:38:06):
Juice TV TV Channel MTV. I mean that was something
that you just put on and enjoy the music videos
as they popped up.

Speaker 3 (01:38:14):
Text tier, Matt.

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
If they drop the whole series of White Loaders and
one hit should have you should have the discipline to
watch one episode per week. If not, your whole argument
is flawed and your viewing habits are at the.

Speaker 3 (01:38:25):
Mercy of streaming companies.

Speaker 4 (01:38:26):
Yeah, what do you say to that?

Speaker 2 (01:38:27):
Yeah, see, that's what I want to try with my
next favorite series. Like I was a big fan of
The Strangest Things series yep, so that always gets dumped
the whole I believe the whole series gets dumped.

Speaker 4 (01:38:38):
Yeah, because it's Netflix.

Speaker 3 (01:38:39):
Yeah, yeah, they leave.

Speaker 2 (01:38:41):
I think Netflix is moving away from that a little
bit now. But yeah, I'm gonna do it. The next
series that I really like and they dump the whole lot,
I'm just going to watch them week to week just
to prove Charlie wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:38:50):
How are we going to Are we going to set
up a camera in your household?

Speaker 5 (01:38:53):
Are we?

Speaker 3 (01:38:53):
It's like it's an honesty thing.

Speaker 4 (01:38:54):
Yeah, fair enough to Oh one hundred and eighty ten
eighty is the number to call. We'll take more of
your phone calls very shortly. Headlines with ray Lean coming.

Speaker 14 (01:39:02):
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and Disability Commission says opportunities were missed to escalate his care.
Auckland Council is asking the government to help with a
spike in homelessness, with a fifty three percent rise in
people sleeping in cars, streets and parks over four months.
Resources Minister Shane Jones says moves to my Gold on

(01:39:43):
the West Coast's Reefden by the end of next year
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Speaker 3 (01:42:29):
Tyler.

Speaker 5 (01:42:30):
It's Mattie than Tyler Adams, and.

Speaker 4 (01:42:33):
We are talking about binge watching a series versus watching
one episode a week. Netflix has been notorious about dropping
the whole season at once, so you can binge to
your heart's content. But matt you're making a pretty strong
argument now that you should be waiting each week to
watch one episode rather than just binge watch the whole lot.

Speaker 1 (01:42:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:42:55):
I think be binge watching is just a weak way
you can't control your addiction, just going deep into the
night this show after show, whereas the way I watch
TV shows now is much.

Speaker 4 (01:43:03):
More honorable, like to like sipping a fine wine.

Speaker 2 (01:43:06):
And savoring it and discussing it over week. If it's
good enough, it'll it'll, it'll wait. Yeah, okay, this is
This is a touching text that's come through on nine too.
My good friend tragically lost her husband almost two years
ago and no children. After about a month, I suggested
we watch two episodes of a series each week together
at hers. A great way to check up on her
and keeping her company. Been doing it ever since every Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (01:43:27):
We love it. That's that's beautiful.

Speaker 4 (01:43:28):
That is nice.

Speaker 3 (01:43:29):
That is beautiful. Good on you.

Speaker 4 (01:43:31):
Keep those teats coming through on nine two, nine to two.
Just before we get to Peter as well, Mum, just
text your mum, Yeah, mom, Yeah, Hello momsy Hello, Jessus
tyler z. You can call a chezer. Shares shares are
Adams and she shares her Adams Adams and she just
tacks and says, our favorite show is Slow Horses. Tell
Matt he's got good taste you. I thank you, shaz

(01:43:53):
And I'm just going to text back and say no
he doesn't. Oh hundred eighty eight the number.

Speaker 3 (01:43:59):
Two you've we've brought up an okay, son, he's all right,
he's okay.

Speaker 4 (01:44:05):
All right, he's not bad. Yeah, he's getting there. Two
nine two is the text number. Yeah, some great texts
coming through, but Peter, good afternoon to you.

Speaker 20 (01:44:16):
Absolute hey. Matt named the TV program on a scale
of one to tenise me as an eleven.

Speaker 3 (01:44:25):
What's that say that again?

Speaker 4 (01:44:26):
Sorry?

Speaker 20 (01:44:27):
On a scale of one to ten think of me
as an eleven.

Speaker 4 (01:44:31):
Oh right, okay, right, so you are the finest one
of the more Peter. Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 20 (01:44:37):
Oh yeah, yeah, he just mentioned the name earlier, but
it's from Auto Man.

Speaker 2 (01:44:43):
Oh yes, a man, we're going back a long way
there part. Pardon me for forgetting that one. I was
a small child.

Speaker 20 (01:44:53):
Ten extra points. What was the car he used?

Speaker 2 (01:44:56):
I know, I know that it could change into it
could turn right angles and I know that I know,
I know his assistant was Cursor.

Speaker 20 (01:45:06):
Yeah, Lamborghini comtash yea yeah, yeah yeah, it wasn't yeah yeah,
what type of carra was?

Speaker 2 (01:45:10):
I thought I had a name, yeah, back back in
those days. And it could turn into a helicopter when
he wanted it to Auto Man then Grand Drake.

Speaker 20 (01:45:23):
So yeah, I just now Grant Drake to watch Tales
of the Gold Monkeys.

Speaker 2 (01:45:29):
I used to love that show. There was like an
Indiana Jones. So this is deep and deepen with a memory.
I can't quite remember it, but was that kind of
like Indiana Jones?

Speaker 5 (01:45:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know why.

Speaker 20 (01:45:42):
The monkeys were all like our planet of the Ape,
but they had wear more heads and it was really crazy,
but it was still cool.

Speaker 2 (01:45:50):
Yeah, I'm trying to think of the theme tongue Auto Man.
This would be really boring for people that don't know
Auto Man. Auto Man was like a tron ripoff that
he came out of the computer. Didn't know that's my guy.
Sorry I'm forgetting it there, but hey, thank you for
that walk down memory, Peter. Back then, Peter, you had
to wait. You had to wait a week for Tales

(01:46:12):
of the Basket God Monkey. You'd have to wait a
week for the next episode, that's for sure.

Speaker 9 (01:46:16):
I know.

Speaker 20 (01:46:17):
I wait for the whole series to drop and then
I watch episode every night. But if it was The
Terminal List, it's supposed to watch like a big movie
because every show connect to the next one. So I
just found a lot easier to do it that way.

Speaker 4 (01:46:34):
The Terminal List. Oh that was the one with Chris Pratt?

Speaker 10 (01:46:37):
Is that right?

Speaker 9 (01:46:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:46:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:46:40):
And so what was that that was on? That was
on Amazon?

Speaker 3 (01:46:42):
Was that on Prime?

Speaker 20 (01:46:45):
Amazon? Prime Video?

Speaker 3 (01:46:49):
So that's about a few years ago this came out, right, Yeah.

Speaker 20 (01:46:54):
Brilliant, good book too, like follows are quite closely and yeah,
to me, supposed to be making a prequel on l
but very cool series.

Speaker 4 (01:47:07):
So similar to a blacklist? Is it that it kind
of links in? Well, all series linked together, arguably, But
you know there's there's a natural progression that you can't
help with binge watch.

Speaker 20 (01:47:20):
Yeah, yeah, you have that. And it's nothing worse than
the show finishing to be continued. I know we haven't
used to see note words on a show to be continued.
But I just have to watch it straight away. And
I said, I've just finished watching all three seasons of
The Rocky and I just watched the show every night

(01:47:41):
and it was awesome. It was good show.

Speaker 4 (01:47:46):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:47:46):
The worst thing.

Speaker 2 (01:47:46):
The worst thing is is when you get like a
show like Chaos, which was on Netflix about sort of
modern Greek gods, and it's only just entertaining enough to
keep you going, and you watch it all the way
through and then it gets to the end on a
cliffhanger and then they cancel the show awful, So you
just feel like you've wasted so much of your life.
It was only just good enough to keep watching because

(01:48:07):
Jeff Goblin was so good in it.

Speaker 4 (01:48:08):
Yeah, whoever does that, whatever executive makes that called taser,
get a taser if you're going to cut that after
one season.

Speaker 3 (01:48:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, make a season.

Speaker 2 (01:48:16):
Should be a complete series so it can sit in
its own right like great shows like The Wire.

Speaker 4 (01:48:21):
Yeah, give the writers a chance to tell their full story. Peter,
thank you very much for your cheers. Mate, some great
texts coming through on nine two, nine to two, Matt,
please no spoilers for The White Lotus. Still a couple
of installments behind. Absolutely love it and like you, I
wait each week to watch an episode because I have to.

Speaker 3 (01:48:41):
Well, lucky, nothing's really happened yet, and Matt can watch
anything he wants. But he doesn't get to dictate how
we all watch streaming services. I've binge watched because I
love alone and work alone. I don't have friends, so
binge watching is great for me. Yeah, that is correct,
and I'm sorry for you for that, but it binge.

Speaker 2 (01:48:59):
Watching weeks for you. But yeah, I don't You're right,
I don't get to dictate what you watch. I don't
have those powers.

Speaker 4 (01:49:04):
Did you want them? You just don't have them?

Speaker 3 (01:49:06):
I want them?

Speaker 4 (01:49:07):
Yeah, I want you. I want them. I had one
hundred and eighty. Ten eighty is the number to call
nineteen nineties, the text number sixteen to four.

Speaker 1 (01:49:15):
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Have your say on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
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Speaker 4 (01:49:26):
Be news talks. It'd be binge watching versus waiting each
week for the episode to air. I wan one hundred
eighty ten Eightyes, a number to call get a Brian today.

Speaker 22 (01:49:36):
G good.

Speaker 3 (01:49:38):
Thanks. You're a hard working dairy farmer. I understand.

Speaker 21 (01:49:41):
I am indeed, I am indeed, I get up at
four every morning, and I've got a young family and
we we my kids loved the extracurricular activities, and yeah,
I decided to very cently buy the textcause I think
anyone who has time to binge watch anything really, they

(01:50:04):
obviously don't or have too much time on the hounds
and A probably a.

Speaker 4 (01:50:08):
Bit like it's a fairpoint.

Speaker 2 (01:50:09):
So, yeah, Brian, you don't have time to watch ten
episodes of Married at First Sight in the row before
before you drop off to sleep. Do you?

Speaker 21 (01:50:18):
You just made me vomit mate talking about married with
best site.

Speaker 2 (01:50:25):
So when you say extracurricular activities, are you guys getting
out and about.

Speaker 21 (01:50:30):
And what are you doing cricket, My daughter rides a horse.
My boy also does triathlons. So yeah, just just just
all those things that you just want your kids to
get out and do and experience.

Speaker 5 (01:50:43):
Life really awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:50:45):
Yeah, that's the way it should be.

Speaker 4 (01:50:46):
What about Clarson's Farm though, Brian, you're a hard working farmer.
Clarkson's Farms a great series related to your industry. Surely
you'd watch a couple of episodes back to back on
that one.

Speaker 21 (01:50:55):
I must admit I'm a big clarks and can as
far as from his old days in the Top year
and so forth. And I wanted to watch sharks and Farm,
but it's not Amazon Prime and we've got me eflect
and we'll drop well do pass. I mean, I just
can't can't bring myself to bloody well sign up to
another one of these bullshit.

Speaker 12 (01:51:17):
I was.

Speaker 3 (01:51:17):
I've been thinking about that because.

Speaker 4 (01:51:19):
You're great, You're very logical.

Speaker 2 (01:51:21):
That's that's that's that's fine. But yeah, so I've wondered
about that because I love it. You know, I grew
up on a farm. But but so so when I'm
watching Clarkson's Farm, I feel very just it's like being hugged.
I just love the feeling of it. But I wonder
if you're if you're getting up at four am the
next morning to milk the cows, do you want to
like watch two episodes of Clarkson's Farm before you go

(01:51:44):
to bed and see someone doing it badly?

Speaker 21 (01:51:46):
I know, I've seen a few shorts that my son's
shown me on on YouTube and stuff, and it looks
like a laugh. I will watch the on the episode,
but it would never be a bringe watch, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:52:02):
Yeah, what what it does is I think it gives
people an appreciation of how hard it is to farm,
and how crazy regulation are making it even harder, and
just the lot of farmers is a lot more intense
than people people know. But you say, you've got some streamers,
so you're like me, you watch one episode, that's your entertainment.

Speaker 21 (01:52:20):
That's fine, you know, that's me and my wife might
sit down between nine and ten watch that and then
I've got to be and try try and be asleep
by at ten o'clock. Get at least sixers.

Speaker 4 (01:52:31):
You're the best of us, Brian.

Speaker 2 (01:52:32):
Yeah, absolutely, you keep up with good work and thank
you if you call, and congratulations and having such a wholesome,
active family.

Speaker 5 (01:52:37):
I love that.

Speaker 21 (01:52:39):
Good guys.

Speaker 4 (01:52:40):
Cheers, cheers Brian, what a great man that is. Yeah,
see an hour at the end of the day to
watch a bit of Telly. I mean that is wholesome
and probably a good use of time. I can't say
I've been that way for many, many, many years.

Speaker 2 (01:52:52):
The vegetative state that you get in when you're just
sitting there in the dark in front of your laptop
and bed with your partner, just watching episode after episode
and then the third episode, should we watch one more?
Because you're addicted by the cliff hanger, because Netflix and
the streaming services know if they put like a half
assed cliff on the end of one show you then
you'll start playing the next one, and the algorithm starts
counting down.

Speaker 3 (01:53:12):
It goes.

Speaker 2 (01:53:14):
Next episode and ten seconds or five seconds, you go, okay,
just one more, and meanwhile your life slowly being sucked
out of you. And by the time you get to
the end of these series, generally they're disappointing. Yeah, that's
why I say, white lotus once a week, let's go.

Speaker 4 (01:53:29):
That's all you need, nicely said, and there is nine
to four beg very shortly here on news talks b
up nixt.

Speaker 2 (01:53:36):
I'll share the top five shows that I would binge
watch and have my soul sucked out of me to
watch overnight.

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Speaker 10 (01:54:08):
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Speaker 4 (01:54:09):
Mate? Land Man? Oh, I've heard good things about land Man.
Who's the main the main character in that the actor.

Speaker 11 (01:54:18):
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Speaker 6 (01:54:21):
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Speaker 4 (01:54:24):
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it is just amazing. And so what's the general gist
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Speaker 6 (01:54:32):
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character that he plays.

Speaker 20 (01:54:36):
He's just no no holds bar and it's just he
speaks his mind is what he wants.

Speaker 11 (01:54:42):
The characters in it are absolutely fantastic.

Speaker 15 (01:54:44):
It's great.

Speaker 20 (01:54:45):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:54:46):
Are you binge watching that? Are you're watching an episode
a week?

Speaker 5 (01:54:49):
Oh no?

Speaker 21 (01:54:50):
If it's on and I'm awake cold watch it.

Speaker 19 (01:54:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:54:54):
Yeah, everyone's talking about and apparently there's been some messive
cliffhangers on it. So if you have to wait each
week to wait for the new episode, it can.

Speaker 3 (01:55:02):
Be stronger than that.

Speaker 10 (01:55:03):
Yeah it.

Speaker 2 (01:55:04):
You just got to hold off that desire and don't
be played by the streamers. Okay, I've got if I
was going to binge watch, these are the five top
five most bingeble shows of all time if you ask me,
all right, yep again, number five, Slow Horses. We're talking
about it before an apple.

Speaker 3 (01:55:17):
Your mum loves it. She has a lot of reviews
on four Sopranos, one of the.

Speaker 2 (01:55:21):
Greatest shows of all time. You can see that on
neonep Ship's Creep.

Speaker 4 (01:55:24):
If you watched that, my mave loves it, loves it.

Speaker 3 (01:55:27):
Yeah, that's on Netflix. Shit screaks. Go back to the
first binge watch show of all time, The Wire. You
watch The Wire?

Speaker 5 (01:55:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:55:34):
Great show boy? Oh boy, the hell out of there.

Speaker 2 (01:55:36):
That's the hell show. It's like such a great show.
I think it's nineteen ninety nine. It's so old now,
but it's brilliant. That's also on Neon, and of course
everyone's favorite, the mighty Breaking Bad Good.

Speaker 3 (01:55:47):
If I was going to binge wat shows, they would
be the ones.

Speaker 10 (01:55:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:55:49):
I was a late coming to Breaking Bad Hints, and
I think I got into it with five seasons to watch.
Smash them out in about two weeks and I was
a shell of a man. But boy, oh boy, what
a time.

Speaker 2 (01:55:58):
Yeah, you're looking down a barrel of a lot of emotions,
an emotional rollercoaster ride.

Speaker 4 (01:56:03):
Yeah, absolutely right. Thank you very much for today, thank
you for all the phone calls, and been a great afternoon.

Speaker 3 (01:56:10):
We'll do it all again tomorrow and until we see
you again. Just watch one show a week, geez come
week

Speaker 1 (01:56:26):
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