Full Show Podcast: 13 March 2025

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today because I shaved this morning. Yeah, and you know
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an absolute mess on your face. It's horrible, out of
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be but I've missed a patch.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
I've just about to say that when you too enjoy
Head originally said looking good but sloppy from you met Heath.

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And people that shave will know that they had demoralizing.
It is to mispatch so annoying because you finish, you
finish up, and you feel so good. You finish the
shave and you go yeah, and you deal with the
little cuts and then and then you then you're driving
in and then you just feel a bit of a
bit of a patch you've left, and then you just
feel demoralized. And it's hard to fight back, but I will.

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I'll do my best to fight back from this little
patch just below my jaw line.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Well, without a word of a lie, you might be
able to borrow it. Actually, I keep a razor in
my car. I haven't used it for some time because
I rock the full bodied beard these days, but just
in case, because that's exactly when you find out when
you have always scratch where you drive and think, bugger
that massive spot.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
I imagine you've got all kinds of horrible blood diseases
that I don't want on my face. So i'll probably
I'll probably pass on that one. Yeah, you don't look
very healthy, so I'll pass on that. No offense, no
thank you, thank you.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Right on to today's show after three o'clock, The Rise
of Influencer Advertising who Online do you follow and who
online influences you. There's counsels up and down the country
that have spent considerable suns on these new online influences.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, that's right. Auckland has spent one hundred and three
thousand dollars, Christis has spent twenty seven thousand dollars. Dunedin,
my beloved hometown, has spent no thousand dollars on influences.
I'm open, I'm available as a as a micro influencer.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Well, you would qualify, wouldn't you, Because I think it's
anybody who has less than one hundred thousand followers, so
you're definitely definitely be in the mix. Well, I heard
Mike talking about his his wife Kate Hawksby, who you know,
fantastic broadcaster. But I think she's not kind of doing
too much these days apart from influencing online, and she's

(04:02):
got a good following.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, well Matt heathan Z on Instagram, Yeah, he's ready
to go follow get my numbers.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
That is after three o'clock, after two o'clock, this is
I don't know if i'd call it a bug bear.
I was just surprised when I move it up to
Auckland and see these little rinky dink buckets for apparently
your food waste from the kitchen. And instantly when I
saw that, I thought, what is the frickin' point. No
one's going to use that. That is just going to
attract rats, another vermin, they're going to blow down the street.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Those humiliating toy wheelibins. Yeah, are an absolute disaster and
then example of someone trying to do something that they
perceived to be good, but not thinking about human behavior.
So in the end we're eventually going to give up
on them. It's only amount of time, and then all
the hundreds of thousands of bins that have been produced
will end up in the recycling.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
I know. I've had to put mine in my recycling bin.
I've had to put my little tiny, little green one
in the blue one to get rid of it.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
That is a massive middle finger to the councils that
are straight away that goes into the recycle bin. But
the reason I was surprised, and this is on the
back of Wong and we saying this was crazy. They've
pulled the service at the last minute. It's still going
to costs the rate pays a little bit because they've
already purchased some of the trucks and some of those
little buckets. But down in christ Chuge, you've got a
genuine weely bin that you can put your grass clippings
and your head tremens in and it gets utilized by everyone.

(05:21):
Everyone loves their green bin down in christ Huge because
it's a proper bloody bin.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Wow, flash, there we go.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
But that is up to two o'clock because right now
we want to have a chat about local body elections
in the sorry state in terms of voter turnout. A
report by local government New Zealand says that replacing postal
voting with a voting booth system is vital for the
future of our local body elections.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
This is because basically postal is collapsing in this country,
so people aren't engaged with postal, so that it's not
a great way to vote. Apparently this is the call.
But are people really going to go along to booths?
Would you go along to a booth? Is that is
that easier? And look, apparently huge huge challenges with online voting, Yeah,

(06:07):
because of security issues, which is odd because it seems
to me that if you could post it then there's
there's a lot of points of contact in there that
could be could be security risks.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Absolutely yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
I think the main problem with with with local body
elections is people are daunted by it. They look at
a bunch of names, they don't know anything about it.
And in the general election, you know what party someone's
standing for, so you have a general idea what they
believe in. But we're so busy and we're so an
undated worth a national uh you know the central government

(06:42):
that we just don't have the knowledge and we don't
appear to have the time to have to gain the
knowledge to make a sensible vote.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
And I don't think we should feel bad about that.
The general election, it's two takes, right, what party do
you want? What MP? And your electorate for the local body?

Speaker 5 (06:58):
The community boards I really key the community are board
are doing. I'm sorry to those who are involved in
community boards. You do a fantastic job for the community.
But I do not care who was on that board,
you know the decision how much?

Speaker 2 (07:12):
How often do we complain rates going up? And how
often do we complain about the muppets in charge in
the councils making ridiculous decisions? And that's because someone with
an interesting name will get through that. You know, you
get people with alphabet situations coming through in terms of
where they sit in the order. So I mean, as citizens,

(07:36):
isn't our job considering the power that local body has
on our lives and considering how annoying it is, how
rates increases, surely we should get over ourselves and look
on putting my hand up. I don't, I don't, and
I'm very interested in politics, but I just cannot get
over some kind of mental block boredom issue around local

(07:59):
body politics to actually read the details. So what would
it take to get you? Because you're not voting, you know,
a huge percentage us and not voting in local body elections,
So what would it take to get you to actually
go out and vote eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
nine two ninety two. Is it voting booths and supermarkets
and voting booths around and hyping it up like we

(08:20):
do the general election, whose numbers are.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Much higher, yeap, or just making it far simpler, just
a couple of ticks rather than all this nonsense about
health boards and I know we don't do health boards
and community boards. Just make it easy, Oh, eight hundred
eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
But then to make it easier, did you stop anyone
because anyone's allowed to run pretty much? Yeah, So do
you say you're not allowed to run because you're too
much of a widow and a muffet? Potentially there's a
panel that goes, you're just filling up the page, confusing
people with your stupid attempt to get into the council.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Right, let's get into it. Oh, eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty is the number to coll and just a
heads up this hour we will have a chat to
Nelson Mayor Nick Smith. He is also part of the
Electoral Reform Working Group who put together this report, so
that is coming up. It is fourteen past one.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
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Speaker 3 (09:20):
Good afternoon. A report from Local Government New Zealand says
that replacing postal voting with a voting booth system is
vital for the future of local body elections. Do you
agree or disagree? Would that encourage you to get down
and actually vote? Because our voting turn out for local
body is incredibly woeful.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, and it's and we're complain all the time. We say, look,
we are these absolute muppets with their crazy decisions. But
that's because they only have to get a very small
percentage of the population, so they can find a little
group that supports them and they get in there, and
then we pay the price. Yeah, Chris, your thoughts on
local body elections.

Speaker 6 (09:58):
Yeah, guys. Yeah, I don't have too much trouble with
actual physical voting of it. But you know, I think
the big problem is I sort of in Auckland. I've
been on the Norse Or and also West, and I
think the problem is that, you know, there's just too
many candidates for people to get their head around. And
the other thing that I've really noticed, and I culled

(10:19):
them out in the voting, is that these people have
been there too long. I think we really need to
have term limits.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
How long would you How would long would you recommend
for term limits?

Speaker 6 (10:32):
Well, I'm not one hundred percent sure how often we
have these elections, but I think for anyone, even in
local and central government, I think ten years is enough.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
I'd agree with that, Chris. That would be under the
current system, so it's every three years, so you give
three terms, Yeah, three terms.

Speaker 7 (10:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (10:51):
I look at people, as I said, I'm at west Auckland,
and I look at people on the list out there,
and some of them have been there twenty years plus,
and that.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Kind of gives them an advantage because a lot of
people voting haven't heard of anyone. So someone's been there
for a while, then they get some recognition and then
you might just tick them because I think I've heard
of their guy.

Speaker 6 (11:12):
Yeah, yeah, well that's it. And the other thing I
do is I'm sort of I don't know, I'm sort
of center, sort of a right voter, and a lot
of people these days, well I actually, I you know,
have a reasonable good look at the candidate and I
see who they aligned with nationally, you know, are they Labor,
are they Greens? Are they Party Mary? Are they national

(11:33):
or whatever? And I deeal to them with the tickle
of they're not the on those grounds.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
Yeah. It's not always easy to figure that out, though,
is it, Chris. I get it. Sometimes they have blocked
where you can figure it out pretty easy if their
Labor or National Green. Sometimes they are a bit more
sneaky than that.

Speaker 8 (11:50):
Yeah they are.

Speaker 6 (11:51):
And you know, Auckland's had a bit of a problem.
I don't know what it's like now Central Auckland, but
you know, labor crew they dominated it for a long time,
you know. But I think the big problem was people
are apathetic because a lot of these people are just
in there too long, and they just think, well, what
the hell, you know, we can't get these people out.
And I think a term moment would deal with that

(12:12):
of Chris.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
How much research do you have to do in it?
You seem to be across enough to have a reasoned
decision when you vote, but how much research do you do?

Speaker 9 (12:24):
I read the stuff, you know.

Speaker 6 (12:25):
They do seem to quite a lot of stuff on
these people, and a lot of them have got a
sort of a pre long resume. Particularly people have been
there for twenty five years and they're in a local business.
And you know, I do read the stuff, even though
it's a bit of a hassle, and you know, sometimes
I have a bit of a Google search just to
have a look. But as I've said on several occasions,

(12:46):
I just think the problem is these people are in
too long. We need some fresh blood of mere yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Just just to play devil's advocate for that idea, Chris.
Some would argue that those who have remained in the
council for a long time are there because they are
incredibly popular, They've got the experience, and they are doing
what their electorate wants them to do, hence why they've
remained in there. Would you buy that that they may
be the only sane people on the council at that point.

Speaker 7 (13:11):
No, No, I don't buy that at all.

Speaker 6 (13:13):
And I think it's become a bit of an old
boys club. You know, these people have been there a
long time. I know, some years ago, particularly in Birkinhead
they had a license and Trust we had a license
in Trust out west Auckland as well, and a lot
of them. It's the old boys network. And I could
tell us some stories of some of the backhanders that
go on there.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
You can't feel free to tell them without any you know,
without incriminating yourself.

Speaker 10 (13:37):
Yeah, well, you.

Speaker 6 (13:38):
Know, not not any dollars changing hands, but you know,
favors that happened here there and whereverhere else, you know,
in a business context, because a lot of these people
who stand for local council and business people.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, certainly, am I gonna make these
allegations here? It happens, happens, certainly happens in a place
like christch where there are business interests in families that
know each other, and clearly they want some sway on
what happens at the local body level. And that's fair
enough too. And if they can swing things to be

(14:12):
more advantage of advantages to them as developers, then so
be it.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Advantageous.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
Yeah, advantageous, that's it.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Thank you very much, sorry to correct you. No, no, no,
you know the text machine whatever if I did.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
Yeah, thank you very much. And Chris, good to check
with you, mate. Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty
is the number to call. There's some good texts coming
through on nine two ninety two. Just want to throw
out there the idea of mandatory voting, compulsory voting for
something like local body elections. And before you say you're crazy,
that's exactly what they do in Australia for the general elections, right.

(14:43):
And if you decide not to vote and they figure
out that you haven't vote voted, they'll send you a
fine for fifty dollars and some as he said, yeah,
I don't want to vote, I'll just pay a fifty bucks,
so be it. Should we bring in something like that
in New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yeah, I mean the numbers are absolutely atrocious, to the
point it's an existential threat. It's being described here as
an ixident X.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
Existential I just hassled you about thesday afternoon, an.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
Existential threat because if the percentages of people voting and
local body get any lower, then it's becomes meaningless. I mean,
you look for a mandate in voting, and it's becoming
so far from a mandate that people kind of you know,
the councils lose their authority.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
Yeah, and I would argue that I think local body
politics have fixed your life more on the day to
day than general than the government in terms of the
are the ones that pick up your rubbish, They are
the ones that sort out your sewage and your water.
They are the ones who are going to be having
the most impact on your life, surely, and most of

(15:46):
us don't care.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yeah. Yeah, but there's the problem with your compulsory voting though, right, So,
if people that it's hard enough right now to get
your head around who to vote for when you look
at a Council. When you look at a form, you're like,
I don't know, I don't know. I don't have time.
I'm a busy person to research all these muppets. Actually
doesn't help. If I call the muppet percent, there are

(16:08):
alwas muppets. So you know you're going down and there's
some serious candidates that may agree with you, may not.
They have serious things are standing for and there's a
certain amount of absolutely like completely and utterly crazy people.
But just because you can pulsorily force to vote doesn't
mean you'll get any kind of informed vote from someone.
People are just going and they'll just take They'll just
take the person with the funny name. I mean the

(16:28):
first time I voted when I was very young, I've
voted for someone because their last name was Blackadder, because
I thought that's last name. It's starting. It's like the
TV show black Adder. Yeah, you know, you know what
muppets are like me being forced to vote.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty Z. The number
to call it is twenty four pas one.

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Speaker 3 (17:18):
Good afternoon. We are talking about how we increase voter
turnout for local body elections. The Local Government New Zealand
Organization has done a report and they reckon replacing postal
voting with a voting booth system is vital to increase
that voter turnout.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
But will it make you vote? Yeah, because it said
before it's the lack of voting is an existential threat
to councils, and councils across the country are responsible one
hundred and twenty three billion worth of assets. This is
back in twenty one, so it's only gone up since then.
You would hope and they had a collective spending power
of eleven point seven billion dollars in higher and employee

(17:53):
thirty thousand people across the country. See, they are big
organizations then, and yet we can't be bothered voting for it.
Allen your thought on local body elections.

Speaker 13 (18:04):
Yeah, absolutely, I feel the biggest problem.

Speaker 14 (18:08):
We do have them, but we don't have.

Speaker 13 (18:10):
Enough night meetings for the working class people Like I'm
working and I don't want to take a day off
work to go listen to somebody in a cafe for
morning tea or afternoon tea when doing their campaigning. I'd
like to see them all come together where they are
stuck on a stage and they can get up hea

(18:32):
a spill, and the audience can actually chuck some questions
at them wildly and they don't know what's coming, and
you can see how they answer them.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
They do. They do do debates around a local body elections,
though I've seen some definitely up in Auckland. So you're saying,
Ellen that you would attend those debates or have you attend?
You do attend.

Speaker 13 (18:53):
I do, but I'd like to see a few more
of them rather than just sort of timely one. I'd
like to see at least three through the campaign period
where they spread them out. They could have some daytime
ones for those that get out during the day. Howderly
people they might take a minibus from the rest home

(19:14):
and go in and sit out and put questions. But
we aren't all lunch bar because a lot of them
happen at lunch bars and cats during the day. They have,
as said, small business type collective entitlement to try and
entice people to vote. They could look at doing a

(19:36):
if you turn up and register as you come and
you'll get a reduction on your rates.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
That would be a good Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Could we benefit like you know, you get on your
timely timely payment discount.

Speaker 13 (19:51):
Yeah, even if it's just for one year. If you names,
we don't want those people voting if they're just picking
on names.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah. If you don't vote, you pay higher rates. That
would get people along. And when you go to these
debates at night that when you have gone, are they
well attended?

Speaker 15 (20:11):
Yes?

Speaker 13 (20:12):
So you have been in my town?

Speaker 2 (20:15):
What towns that allen at least? What towns that allen? Yeah?
I mean great, great, oh god, I love toeporar. It's brilliant,
all right, Ellen, Thank you so much for your call.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Just a quick couple of tecks here about the mandatory voting. Yep, agree,
mandatory voting would be a good way to raise voter turnout,
but there is a few fishooks in that idea. A
fifty dollars fine seems reasonable and this one mandatory voting
that is crazy. Leave it to the Aussies. Stupid system
will never work here.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Okay, thank you for that. Shout out to Richard Hill's
North Shaw Auckland. Dude answers every pisky issue brought up
on our locals page. Politely didn't vote though, that's from
what Molly tell you what Richard Hill's polarizing.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
You know, he's still a counselor now, isn't it. I
know a lot of off with Heather and that did.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
I say this? He makes me not want to vote
when I hear him talking.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty is number two call.
I have heard him on the panel with Heather before
and yeah, a little bit, you know, pick up the energy, Richard.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah, yeah, there's a number of number of reasons why
he makes me not want to vote. But look, it's
not about me, it's about you. What would make you vote.
They're talking about going away from postal to polling booths
for local body elections. With that make you vote? Oh wait,
undred eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 3 (22:58):
Thank you very much for a lane. And how do
we get more people down to vote in local body elections?
A suggestion from Local Government New Zealand that we get
rid of postal voting and just have voting booth likely
we do for the general election, would help with voter turnouts.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yeah, and Local Government U Zealand Electoral Reform a group
chair and Nelson Mayor Nick Smith says participat as participation
rates less than half of eligible voters, this is an
existential risk to local government reformers needed now to strengthen
the democratic mandate. Local government has to represent communities across
New Zealand, so when it gets less than half of

(23:34):
people voting, then you don't really have a mandate, which
this text addresses that and I quite like this idea.
On nineteen ninety two, Hey lads, have a set minimum,
say sixty percent of voters. If this is not met,
the central government installs a commissioner with appropriate sidekicks.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
Wow, I mean that would get me to vote?

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yeah, because because the central government does have a mandate.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Yeah, right, working.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah, So if you're not getting up to that level,
then you have not the council has not been effectively
voted for, and you risk a bunch of muppets getting
in the Yeah. Yeah, then the government just you know
some still as a commissioner.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
So basically saying you've got democracy at the moment, but
if you don't go down and do your democratic rite
and vote, we're going to take your democracy away.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Well, you know, in the past they've kept people in
Auckland locked in their houses until a certain arbitrary number
is meant. That was never going to happen, yep, exactly,
there's some precedent out there.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Absolutely. Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call Margaret.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
You're four compulsory voting.

Speaker 15 (24:39):
Gooday, guys, Yeah, I'm four compulsory voting. I'm from Australia
and it works. If you're going to get fined, you
go and vote.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Yeah, And what is the fine. It's fifty dollars is
at give or take.

Speaker 15 (24:50):
Look, I don't remember. I've been over here for nearly
ten years now, so I thought it was actually more.
There's a fair incentive to get out and vote. The
other thing I'd mentioned is that when you talk about
voting at the polling booth, it's a really social thing
to do. You actually meet neighbors at the local hall
and have a bit of a chat over. In Australia,

(25:13):
the candidates are allowed to be there right up to
the day they put They throw you know, posters in
your in your hand on the way in to tell
you how to vote, and you kind of get a
flavor for.

Speaker 9 (25:25):
What's going on.

Speaker 15 (25:25):
It's quite an exciting little outing. And I'm not at
all for more government interference. I'm just telling you that
it works, that's all.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yes, So is that local body and national elections and
state elections. They're all compulsory with a fine attached.

Speaker 10 (25:42):
Correct.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Interesting because yeah, I assumed it was just national, but
across the board does make sense.

Speaker 15 (25:50):
Yeah, and here, you know, it was kind of meant
alluded to before, but you know, we only have two
tiers of government here, so local has a really big
influence in our lives, probably more than the local councils
in Australia because you've got another you know, you've got
state government as well, and really you don't think so
much about your council unless you want to renovate your
house or your rubbish doesn't get picked up in Australia,

(26:11):
but here, you know, their mandate comes directly from central
government and it affects a lot more areas of our lives.
I go along to our local council meetings and I
know who I'll be voting for because I can see
who participates and who just sits there.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yeah. Right, So you're an informed voter, Margaret, you're on
the very low percentage of informed local body election voters.

Speaker 7 (26:35):
Yeap.

Speaker 15 (26:35):
And I actually write an article for a local rag
as well, talking about the you know, what's happening at
the council, mostly mostly the negative stuff that we need
to be addressing, like the council's getting us into huge
amounts of debt going forward, that sort of thing that's
just completely unacceptable and untenable. And you know, I think

(26:57):
we do need more awareness in our local councils. And
I think if you if there's a thread of the fine.
And again I have to say, I'm not for more
government in interference, but it's a bit of an incentive
to actually go along to one of those meetings a
gentleman mentioned before, or read something in the local paper,
or listen to the news, or you know, pay attention
to the information you get about candidates.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Well, of course, the counter argument to the compulsory voting
as you get a bunch of informed people voting and.

Speaker 15 (27:27):
Always get that, you always get a percentage of people
who you know, who object, and that's that way of objecting,
and that's the democratic right.

Speaker 6 (27:37):
You know, even if they.

Speaker 15 (27:38):
Do vote for someone with a funny name, you know
that's going to happen. But I don't think if you're
talking about you know, the elections, the number of people
voting not even being effectual, you know, being completely ineffectual,
I think you'd easily double it by by making it compulsory.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
I have an interesting situation, you know, and some becoming
a citizen, you have to answer certain questions and know
a certain amount about the country you're moving to. You know, famously,
you said in American movies and sitcoms, people sitting that
would be interesting. If there's a situation where you not
only have to compulsory vote, but you have to compulsorily
pass a test to show that you actually understand a

(28:18):
little bit about what's going on.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
I'd be up for that, would you, Yeah, Margaret good idea.

Speaker 15 (28:24):
Oh well I haven't become a citizen yet, but I'm
sure I could pass the test.

Speaker 10 (28:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
Oh yeah, well you could definitely pass the local body test.
Thank you so much for your call, Margaret Good, on you.
Thanks for your call.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Well, well, argued, I've just had a look at the
voter turnout across Australia. So in twenty twenty two, which
was the latest figures I could fire for that House
of Representatives eighty nine percent turnout for the Senate, ninety
percent turnout for the federal election, eighty nine percent turnout.
So for US local body on average across the board
was about thirty two percent.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
That is not a mandate. Compulsory voting is crazy people
who aren't interested and forced to vote, whill just vote
randomly without researching the best candidates. It's a privilege to vote. No,
not compulsory one not out of over sixty they lost
their brains. We post box over road. If we have
get taxi bad legs. So you've just said that people
over sixty should't vote because they've lost their brains. And

(29:20):
then you've written post box over road if hall have
get taxi bad legs. So you know from try Yeahart
could be you that's lost the brain New.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
Yeah, exactly, boys.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Some of the small town long standing counselors are like mafia.
No one can stand against them.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
Yeah, right. One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call stand by because we're going to have
a check to a few people involved in local body elections.
It is nineteen to two.

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Speaker 3 (29:58):
B sixteen to two.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
We're talking about local boder elections and a suggestion that
we should move to polling boots and instead of postal
voting because almost no one's voting.

Speaker 17 (30:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
This stage it has a text from Mary on nine
two nine two. New Zealanders are lazy and dim witted,
but they all have an option and it's often loudest
from those who don't engage. Hi, guys, currently oz eighty
dollars fine for not voting, So there you go. Yeah,
my friend was overseas with the voice vote and received
her fine through the post which you got. Nick, you're

(30:34):
involved in local body elections.

Speaker 10 (30:40):
Well, I guys, good good discussion, some really interesting points there.
Just trying to really find some good, good candidates here.
It's interesting what you're what you said about. Sort of
back in christ Church maybe in the day there were
sort of old boy networks. So I think the councils
are throwing an awful lot the other way. I think

(31:03):
people haven't been getting involved and I think we'll see
more sort of the young people, the green movement, people
coming into council within ideas of lots of nice to
do things. But as you say, councilors are massive organizations
and there's a huge decisions. I mean here in Tasman
we had the damn whatever three hundred million dollar project.

(31:24):
I think there's a real lack of people with business
experience in the councils making these huge decisions. So we
desperately need to get people to vote. Maybe we should
have rate players having more say in the voting as well.
I think they're the people with the real skin in
the game. I worry a bit that you've got sort
of temporary people in the area for a year or

(31:47):
two on a contract or something, and they can register
to vote and have as much, say as somebody who
maybe owns multiple properties and is paying tens of thousands
of dollars in rates. And there's a lot more affected
by council decisions on whether they can build new driveways
and they add buildings and that sort of thing. So
I think there's a lot needs to be done, and
we definitely have to find ways to motivate more people

(32:10):
to get out there and vote, and those who are
more concerned. I think local council affects our daily life
probably more than sort of national government does. So yeah,
I think really important to find some ways. I like
the idea of potential mandatory voting. I mean, a small fire,
it's not a big deal. Do you think both?

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Do you think bringing back polling booths? You know, instigating
polling booths for local body elections would help?

Speaker 10 (32:39):
So I'm thinking about them. I'm not sure, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
If you put them where people go, you know, if
you put them in supermarkets or malls or where people
are already going it my help.

Speaker 10 (32:51):
Yeah, as an extension or an alternative to postal voting.
I mean it's easy enough when you've got a post
box and you get your things. But yeah, you do worry.
People move around a lot. There's an awful lot of
stuff sits in mailboxes these days, probably gets lost, aren't
really tracked. There's no id for tracking who's voting through

(33:13):
the postal vote. You can pick up a form and
ticket and send it off again and then a vote's done.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yeah, yeah, thank you for you cool neck.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
Well, I think last time, you know, because it was
postal voting, you had to go down to the local
council or a library, and I didn't realize you could
do it the library.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
But I don't know where a post box is. I
haven't seen one in ages that isn't in front of
the you know, a post office, and there's had any
post offices anymore.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Just do it fast post and just the normal posts,
you know those old post boxes, and one side would
be blue and one side would be read fast posts.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
It's just national and international now yeah, there you go.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Yeah, but yeah, just the idea of going down to
a council and handing in the voting ballot was just
a pain. So you know, being able to do it
online or hopefully a voting booth might help a little bit.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Ken, I understand you're joining the muppets and standing.

Speaker 12 (34:00):
Yeah, I've just come from a discussion with a few people.
They want to put my name forward to stand for
the count on two things. Run Auckland City Council and
the other one Rodney would right, And I've been listening
and it's I agree on mandatory voting and also people

(34:21):
should be fined because a lot of people criticize people
for being in there and yet they don't vote. So
you know, you can't criticize if you don't vote. So
the thing is that I'm standing on the fact that
as an independent where the thing is that I've heard

(34:41):
of quite a few things that have been going on
that if your labor or whatever party that you follow,
if you're people with you on the committee or the
council vote against you because you've put it forward. And
it's like, for example, say National might oppose something that's

(35:04):
really good for the rate players, but they don't like
the person and it might have been put forward by
a Green or a labor party, and of course what
happens they vote against it, and yet it's there for
the rate players, not for the the you know. And
it's very disappointing that people take their national commitment towards

(35:27):
local bodies, you know, like you're.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
Talking about party politics.

Speaker 12 (35:33):
Ken, Yeah, Well, the thing is party politics come into
the local scene as well, and it shouldn't be because
those people have voted in or elected in for what
they can do for the for them, for the local area,
not because of the government want this or that.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
It's a fair point, but sometimes that backfires on them, Ken,
doesn't it? And again, you know, I know I'm speaking
about Christis a lot, but that's where I voted for
the past couple of elections, and they have what's called
the People's Choice, which is clearly labor aligned, and any
counselor that joined the people's choice last time got burnt
by that, as people would have real labor. Some got through,

(36:11):
some got through, but sometter we'll.

Speaker 12 (36:14):
See the thing is that I'm actually standing only only
because I've voiced my opinion on quite a few things,
and everybody says, well, why don't you put your mouth
wer thingers and of course go for it. And I'm
thinking that's a good idea. I probably won't get in
because I don't have a name for myself. I'm the

(36:34):
next businessman. I've been there, done that on the shovel.
So the thing is, I know what it's about. However,
I'm more in tune to the area. You know, like,
for example, just things that the council do are just
so pretty oddish.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Well good on you, Ken for standing if you want
to make a change. I was just thinking about how,
you know, we complain a lot about council and part
of the reason is we don't know anything about these
people until they get it, and then we find out
what they're like, and then we complain about But at
the point, you just read the little bit that you
get in the pamphlets and you go through and it's

(37:14):
obviously a carefully worded piece of promotion for themselves, a
little pr blue and then they're in and then you go, oh, right,
well this person wasn't who I thought they were, and
then you hate them. But then that doesn't seem to
be me motive motivating people to go and vote to
vote them out again either, does it, But how do
you change the numbers or so low.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
Some some speed dating situation with our local candidates where
you get to really quiz them about who actually are
they and if they're a weirdo, they don't get your vote. Oh,
one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
And no weirdos policy.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
It is hate to do.

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Speaker 3 (38:02):
It is six to two and we're talking about how
we get more people to vote in local body elections.
It's woe for in terms of the turnout at the moment.
A suggestion from local Government New Zealand's is that replacing
postal voting with a voting booth system like we do
for the general election might help.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Party politics is are rarely corrupting the system. Labor and
Greens unashamably stand candidates who will only vote on party
ideals and not for what makes practical sense for the area.
I need much bitter vetting of candidates, especially their commercial experience.
That's from Nick.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Yeah, I mean, like we were talking about this other day,
how it's because of MMP we now just get one
opinion versus another opinion. You didn't have your local South
Dunedin MP. He'll be fighting for his area, his electorate.
They just have to follow the party line, right, and
so you'd hope that that doesn't isn't the case in

(38:58):
a local bodies as well, because you want them fighting
just for your city and the things that are particular
to that little area, right, Yeah, as a poe to
just holding the line of the central government. So you
should be if you've got Labor Party, National Party, Green Party,
whatever party connections and you're running and you're going to

(39:20):
be in line with them, you should be very very
clear that that's what you're doing, that you're voting for
just whatever that major political party, that nationwide party believes.
If you're just going to vote that in line with them,
I agree, because that's ideology. Then you should just say
what you are. You're a Labor candidate, you're a national
candidate running for local body, and that you're just going

(39:42):
to do. You're just going to toe that line. Of
that party.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
Yeah. Absolutely, we're going to pick this back up after
two o'clock and just a reminder, we're going to have
a chat to Nick Smith, he is the Nelson Mayor
and also the Electoral Reform Group Chair for Local Government
New Zealand to get his thoughts on this report that
is coming up very shortly. But love to hear from you. Oh,
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(40:06):
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Speaker 1 (40:15):
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Speaker 3 (40:27):
They'd be good afternoon. We've been discussing how to increase
the voter turnout for local body elections. It's on the
back of Local Government New Zealand's reports which said that
replacing postal voting with a voting booth system is vital
for the future of local body elections. Well, LGNZ Electoral
Reform Group Chair and Nelson mere is Nick Smith and

(40:51):
he joins us.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Now, Nick, what are their voting percentage numbers like in
local body elections at the moment.

Speaker 18 (40:58):
Oh, it's pretty damn allful. We're down to about forty percent.
It's been declining for more than thirty years. When I
first stood for local government in the nine teen eighties,
it was it about sixty percent. And the other important
comparison is actually New Zealanders have a damn good track
record and their participation in parliamentary elections. We're up at

(41:20):
eighty percent.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
What's the logic of polling booths over postal voting that's
being suggested.

Speaker 18 (41:28):
Well, the first thing is that posts stuff. That is
that the numbers have just collapsed by about ninety percent.
We've got a significant number of households that either don't
have a letterbox or don't use it, and of course
we're seeing them remove all of postboxes. Even since we
started the work, there's least frequent mail services and so

(41:49):
we're just simply saying we've got to find an alternative.
For about twenty years, governments, both national and labor, and
quite a few councils have said, oh gee, the answer
is to move to e voting, and in despite promising
to do it, nobody has and the reason is the
moment you get into the detail, they just cannot get
on top of the security problems. The New Zealand Intelligence

(42:11):
Service has been quite upfront about that. In fact, things
around cyber attacks have actually got worse, not better, and
there are authoritarian regimes in the world that are aimed
at discredited at undermining our democracy. It just makes e
voting to risky and that really only leaves you with

(42:31):
the tried and true method that we use for our
parliamentary elections. And the great thing about that is that
we know it works, and it's also something that people
are very familiar with that would work by people having
access to polling booths to two weeks, that the polling
booths would be in those places that people frequent, super markets,

(42:52):
in shopping malls, in libraries, and that it is as
similar as possible to what happens at our general elections.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Real me things to work though with some government. You know,
I've just been involved in using me for some government
admin that I had to do. So why isn't it
good enough for voting? If it's good enough for kids
signing up for student loans or passports, Well.

Speaker 18 (43:16):
The things with things likes of financial transactions is if
you get it wrong, at least it can in future
be undone. That's not true for voting. And of course
it's also really important and essential to the voting system
that it is a secret ballot and so if somehow
your vote was changed, you'd never ever know. Now it

(43:39):
is a matter of record that there are cybersecurity attacks
that have occurred on eleectoral systems, and what the experts,
including the New Zealand soissay is it's just too risky.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
So going back to the voting both booth system, do
you envision it or does the report envision it exactly
like how we have the General Body that it would
take place on a Saturday, that there'd be multiple booths around,
that there would be a bit of hype behind it
to remind people it's on and hopefully get them into
that booth.

Speaker 18 (44:08):
Yes, exactly. And what's more, we want to recruit you
know the orange man and his dog that's used by
the Electoral Commission. What we do at the moment is
you have seventy eight councils all doing their ad hot
campaigns to get out of vote. They only spend about
forty five cents per voter. The Electoral Commission spends on
average four dollars a voter with those campaigns with the

(44:30):
Orange Man.

Speaker 19 (44:31):
And dog, you get what you pay for.

Speaker 18 (44:33):
We shouldn't be surprised that we get such a pathetic
result in local elections when the campaigns poorly coordinated. We
spend very little on it, and I do think that
New Zealanders understand the message they get from the Orange
Man and the Dog, and we n it works.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
So when you say polling booths and supermarkets, they're going
to be have to be manned, aren't they, and that'll
get pretty.

Speaker 18 (44:54):
Chances as they are, yeah, just as they are for
general elections. So effectively, what we're saying is, look, the
Electoral Commission hops out once every three years, but I've
got all the infrastructure there. Let's just roll them out
when we do the local elections and make it as
similar as possible in our report all so, I think
it would be sensible for us to move to a
four year term. Our perfect outcome would be for both

(45:14):
Parliament and councils to move to a four year term.
The public has an election once every two years, and
it alternates between a local and a national election of course,
if there was a change to four years, it would
need to be by referendum. Parliament last week voted for
a bill to do just that. We're just asking that
if you're going to move to four year terms with

(45:34):
the referendum for Parliament, that you do so for councils
as well.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
We're talking to local government New Zealand Electoral Reformed chair
and Nelson Mayor Nick Smith. Is the problem that people
just don't care and it's too complicated. Who has time
to research all the candidates? You know how busy people
are these days. I mean, you know, I'm interested in politics,
but when I go into when I'm voting and it

(45:59):
arrives in the mail, I look down. I go I've
got no idea, absolutely no idea. And you know in
a general election it's divided into parties. You go, well,
this person and is generally in the area I want
to vote, and that that can happen. You can't that
there is sort of allegiances there. But is it just
too complicated for people?

Speaker 18 (46:17):
I think your reflections are exactly what we've found in
our research and work, and that is, even if you
do the changes we're proposing, we need to be careful
to keep the voting system sensible. If you say to
a vote and look there's forty candidates, go pick five
of them, they're just going to be overwhelmed and not bother.
We do think there's an opportunity to use modern technology,

(46:39):
so we're suggesting in the report that people and there
be a website of which you can actually watch a
short video we've suggested three minutes, and that you know,
by actually seeing people is actually a bit more interesting
than just one hundred and fifty word statement. The last
that we would add in that area is that there
is a job to do to try and ensure that
people have got good information about candidates, and the report's

(47:01):
got some ideas on that.

Speaker 15 (47:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Well, people soon to complain a lot in the in
they do with who gets in, but don't necessarily take
the effort to learn who's going in and vote on it.
Is there any finally, is there any talk of compulsory voting?
Will that ever be a thing in New Zealand as
it is in Australia.

Speaker 18 (47:16):
Oh well, they do have compulsory voting in Australia, but
they come from convict stock and they probably need something
that's stronger to keep them in line. II think it
would be a mistake to go all the way to
compulsory voting. In the New Zealand legal system, it is
compulsory to be on the role, but not to the vote,
and we're not recommending change to that.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
Very interesting and Nick, thank you very much for your time.
Really appreciate it.

Speaker 10 (47:38):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
That is Nick Smith's Local Government New Zealand Electoral Reform
Group Chair And of course now some mere interesting.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Isn't it amazing that we have to spend a whole
lot of our own money? So you know, the government's
money is money that we've paid in taxes to convince
ourselves to go out and vote. So the government has
to spend what you say, four dollars is spent on
advertising per vote that they get. Did I understand that right?

Speaker 3 (48:03):
That's what I heard. That's a very bad return on investment,
isn't it full?

Speaker 2 (48:07):
Butocracy so important to us, and you know, it's it's
the bedrock of our society, you know, or our political system,
and yet we have to spend that much money just
to convince people to go vote and then to vote
in local bodies. We're not spending as much money, but
surely there's something fundamental wrong, fundamentally wrong with the way

(48:28):
we see the world if we're just having to be
harangued into voting for the people that rule us.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
Yeah. But also, as the orange guy, the best we've got,
you know, it was okay, It's okay. We can do better.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
As a person that runs an animation company, yeah, I
find the orange man offensive. It's like when I was
at university doing computer science and the first the first
ancient types of three D animations we did. Yeah, it's
it's an abomination, absolute abomination. But next myth as it works.
So if the abomination works, then go for it. I mean,

(49:02):
do we want them to spend kind of pix our
money to make it really really impressive?

Speaker 10 (49:05):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Or are we fine with just that that hopefully not
much of that money is going towards those animations, so
hopefully that's on the media spend. Hey guys, my brother
stood for council Ward last election, and he has a
complete nutcase and he's only looking for a steady income.
You would never know by his blurb. He didn't get in,
but he got a few hundred votes. This puts me

(49:27):
right off that his brother is in nutcase. I mean,
that's an interesting thing as well, as you've got the
difference between people that go into the council because they
want to make a difference and they believe in stuff
and they've learned something over their careers and they think
they have something that can make their city a better place,
right Yeah, and there's those that are going in for
a job and they're just holding on each year to

(49:49):
continue being a member of the council.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
The money's pretty good even for small towns. If then
if you're part of these committees and community boards and
all that, which sounds like very punishing things to do,
but you know, for an extra fifteen k for every
one of those boards you're on ends up being good money.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Jeremy says, not sure what the advertising spend is. We
should look that, actually find out what the advertising spend is.
But let's say it's ten million. Tell everyone that votes
goes into a drawer to win two prizes of five million.
A voting lottery, voting lottery. What are you looking at
with lotto? Now it's a one in thirty eight million chance.
Your chances would be better if we were giving away

(50:26):
that money for voting.

Speaker 3 (50:27):
You don't write these down and give them to the
actual commission.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Feels a little bit like an idiocracy, but it might work.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
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Good afternoon, nineteen past two, and we're talking about what
is the best way to increase voter turnout in the
local body elections.

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it is. It was fantastic movie directed by Mike Judge,
who also made off of Space Yes, and starring Luke Wilson,
And it's based on the concept that that smart people
are having less children and dumb people having more and
more children. Therefore, eventually a society will be selecting for

(51:22):
dumb people and the most average man alive in two
thousand and five, through a series of comedic mistakes, ends
up being frozen and waking up five hundred years later
in an idiocracy. And I'll tell you what that movie
was made in two thousand.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
And five and a little bit scary.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
How there's a lot of ideocracies coming true.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
Well worth the watch it as a comedy, but slightly scariest.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Yeah, we may be living in an idiocracy. We may.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
Oh eighty ten eighty is the numbered call? Keith, how
are you this afternoon?

Speaker 14 (51:57):
Good?

Speaker 20 (51:57):
Thank you. I just wanted to make a comment about
the local government representation.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Yep.

Speaker 20 (52:05):
I know the topic is about to turn out essentially
that's right, but I'm far less concerned about that as
opposed to the actual composition of councils, and from experience,
I would say to you the critical thing is to
have the right people appointed to the subcommittees, the various

(52:27):
subcommittees which require real expertise, because unfortunately you get a
lot of unqualified people and experienced people on those subcommittees
who just start up to the task. And I think
that partly explains why you've got out of control councils
all around New Zealand with excessive rates and a whole
lot of other things going on.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
At How are people assigned to subcommittees at the moment? Keith?

Speaker 20 (52:52):
Well, generally you voted a council it might be seven
or eight members, and then you go through those members
and the mayor will ask for people to represent the
council on for example, audit, engineering or water or whatever
case may be. Different councils have different subcommittees. Order, in

(53:15):
my experience is probably the most critical one because it
controls the money and sets rates, recommends rates, and if
you don't have the right people, and more often than not,
these councils don't, I mean I've experienced that, you end
up with a lack of expertise making recommendations that aren't

(53:36):
necessarily good ones.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
So you've got a mayor looking at see you got
a mayor looking at the councils like a stop to
choose from from the subcommittee. So he's got to set
group of people he has to choose from, and you know,
for the random lottery of an election, we're less than
you know, around thirty percent vote and some pretty crazy
people get in there. He or she's got to then

(53:59):
select from that of Paul to fill these subcommittees that
are very very technical.

Speaker 20 (54:05):
Yeah it can be. And there are councils around us then,
and I know a couple of them who have a point.
As an independent chairperson well qualified out of audit New
Zealand to actually chair the committee. Now that's a good move,
but that person also needs support. You know, it wouldn't
be much fun for him or her trying to get

(54:26):
decisions on important technical matters when they have no ability
to reader set of financial accounts as one example.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
Isn't that what the council staff are there for, Keith?
And I'm not defending council staff here. That's a problem
in itself as they're not elected people and sometimes managers
are being in council for too long and they think
they run the roost via you know, versus the councilors.
But that's kind of their role, right, is that you've
got the technical expertise within council that should be providing
the advice.

Speaker 20 (54:57):
That is true in theory, and yes the council officers
are supposed to be advising. But I will say to
you based on experience that unfortunately the less of competency
in certain areas is just absent. And you know, I mean,
I can't do it now, but there's a lot of

(55:18):
war stories I could tell you. What if you just
compare central government, which relies on Treasury and other specialist
parts of the bureaucracy, whatever you might think of it,
to give advice to the government and buy a large
government should maybe ad made up of competent people, not always.

(55:42):
Then that is somewhat different to the way councils operate
because there's no specialist department giving advice on matters that
might relate to funding and accounting and so on and
so forth.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
Just think it seems to get more and more sort
of depressing when you look into the whole council situation,
and it kind of starts to make sense why we're
always shocked and surprise by the decisions that are made.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
Yeah, and good on people like Keith, who clearly sits
in on some of those committees and raises objections, and
that's a very good thing for an ordinary citizen to do.
But most of us couldn't be bothered with that sort
of crap.

Speaker 16 (56:21):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
This texture on ninet two nine two says, I agree.
I hate the orange bastard and his stupid dog. I
find them offensive.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
They're pretty lame.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
I mean it would be I think the orange election
election guy would be pretty good in a horror movie
like the Orange Man. Something being chased around by that
terrifying orange budget CG creation.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
There's something quite grotesque about him. Now now you mention it.
O eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. Nine two nine two is the text number.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
In that movie Ideocracy that you've been talking about. The
director wanted the alest's most stupid looking shoes that only
stupid people would wear to represent an idiocracy. He chose crocs.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
Is that true?

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Yeah, so that's another part of ideocracy that's come true.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
Oh we're doomed up.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Everyone, including these were in crocs?

Speaker 3 (57:04):
Were your stuffed? Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is
the number to cour. It is ty six Pas.

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Speaker 3 (58:14):
Right, we are talking about local body elections and how
do we increase photo tune out because it is pretty
woeful at the moment and a lot of abuse for
orange Man. That's the advertising feller for the local as
the general election.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
Right, Yeah, I'm wondering if orange Man is what's lowering
the you know, the amount of people turning up to
the polls in the national votes. So let's not move
orange Man. Orange Man is not involved in local body
is he? Orange Man?

Speaker 12 (58:38):
Does they?

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Orange Man and his punishing dog for local body elections.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
He's been around for a long time.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
He terrifies me, who do you guys got in a
boxing match between the stick Guy versus Orange Man plus
the dog. I mean, for Orange Man turns up with
the dogs stick.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
Man guy, he's pretty sary sort of fella.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
Where did the Orange Man come from?

Speaker 3 (58:58):
I'm going to do some research on that. Graham. How
are you this afternoon?

Speaker 7 (59:03):
Good?

Speaker 14 (59:03):
Hey?

Speaker 10 (59:04):
How are you? God?

Speaker 3 (59:05):
What do you reckon on this one?

Speaker 7 (59:08):
Three things? First of all, make everything four years, help
the elections and the local bodies together. The cost lots
less because you only need to do two papers if
everybody turns up for the same day.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
Yeah, so you're saying, Graham. Actually there's been a few
techs saying this, and I actually meant to ask Nick
Smith that very question. But has anyone thought about that.
You're getting people to the poles, as you say, Graham,
You're spending all that money on getting people there, and
why not have them vote for their local body at
the same time as the national elections?

Speaker 7 (59:41):
Correct, makes it a lot more super and nineteen nine
potential people would turn up. As for the Orange Man,
leave him where he is. You like everybody does a
good job.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
You like Parliment doesn't scare the grandkids? Graham? Okay, fair enough.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
What about is dog Graham? You okay with this?

Speaker 7 (01:00:06):
Yeah? Yeah, four four years? Put it together all together,
four years and leave the Orange men.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
Okay, all right, thank you for your cool Thank you
very much.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
I'll tell you what.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
It's good to hear some positivity for the gram Man
because the Orange Man, the gram Man, the Orange Man.
So many ticks coming through with terrified nightmares around the
Orange Man, a lot of abuse. People are scared to
go to the booth just in case the Orange Man's there.
Jumps out of the box and text you like penny Wise.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
I've done some research on the Orange Guy. So the
first appearance was two thousand and nine, and his dog
was modeled after a Jack Russell and a Doushound sausage dog.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
Oh yeah, yeah, well.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
Is that a dog of the people. Nothing against Jack Russells.
I like Jack Russell.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Well, I've got a mini Snails, a Jack Russell cross.
It's fantastic dogs. I've got a lot of time for
the Jack Russell. I'm actually coming on board with the dog.
Still not on board with the Orange Man. And for
all these people text thing, no not, We're not talking
about Donald Trump. When we talk about the Orange Man.
We're talking about the election, the terrifying election, CGI monstrosity.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
The messcot orange guy.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Look him up.

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
Yeah he's horrible. Thank you very much for that discus. Right,
we're going to change things up after headlines with Raylene.
We want to talk about green bins on the bank
of wangan Nui, saying see you later to their green bins.
It's going to cost a little bit of money, but
what is the point of these tiny little buckets for
your food waste? Nobody uses them.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
They're like toy bins. They're like, you know, the supermarket
for a while was doing those. You know, spend a
bit and you get like little toy milk bottles and
you get little toy different products.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
Cute but useless.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Yeah, cute, cute but useless, I believe. And in my
little area where I live, they put out forty rubbish
bins and sometimes eighty when it's that week, and there's
only two of those little green bins that were that
were forced upon us for scraps.

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
Do you shame those neighbors?

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
I do not, But they're always on this side, those
little bins, and I was just like, where is all
the rest of them? And people just keeping them in
their house.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
I've heard of people that just put their little green
bin in the blue bun and recycled.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
Them right because one of those people sitting in the
studio right now.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
One of them is sitting in the studio right now.
I recycled it for the good.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
So you did the right thing, kind of recyc the
weet middle finger to the.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
Council green ben.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
Yeah. Oh, one hundred AC ten eighty is the number.
Call nine two nine two is the text number. Headlines
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Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
Thank you very much. Railing right. Let's talk about food
waste collection bins. This is on the back of Wanganui.
They have ditched their plans for the food waste collection service.
An extraordinary meeting at the council stretching over two hours,
it ended with a nine to four vote in favor
of scrapping the service that was due to start in
July this year. A report from the council Chief Executive

(01:04:19):
said an opt in service for ratepayers was not viable
due to uncertain uptake. But the food scraps curbside collection
overall will cost This is, according to one of the councilors,
sixteen one hundred dollars per ton of carbons saved versus
one hundred and twenty dollars for the same effect that
is planting trees.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
And of these these those humiliating little green bins that
we've got in Auckland, yeah, correct, exactly, miniature toy ones,
yeah yeah, and always on their side.

Speaker 15 (01:04:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
And so when I came up to Auckland in October
last year and saw that little bin, I just thought
that would belonged to the landlord and had left it behind.
That was his little bucket that he got from Bunning's,
and I thought, what is that for? Till I realized
that apparently was for your food scraps that you put
on the side of the row, and I thought, what
madness is this? So I'm glad that wangan Nui has
got rid of them. But down in christ Church they

(01:05:10):
have a green bin that's actually a proper wheelly bin.
It's about half the size of the recycling bin. It's
big enough that you can put your grass clippings in it.
If you're doing a bit of work around the garden.
The food scraps goes in there and it gets picked
up on a weekly basis, and everybody loves it, not
these dinky little buckets.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
Is that true? Is that true? Citizens of christ Church?
Does everybody love them?

Speaker 3 (01:05:33):
Back me up here?

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
Citizens just seem.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
A lot more practical than the silly little toy ones
for you, grated carrot or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
Yeah, and who does that really? I mean one a
lot of people have in cinerators if they live in.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
A patast God, I love it encincreator so good, isn't it.
It's cathartic, it's you know when you're cleaning up, you know,
when you're cooking. I mean I almost prefer just the
bit where I put the onion peels or the extra
cutoffs down the syncreator then I do the cooking or eating.
I just love it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
And you get the kids around watch this, boys, This
has got a mince the heck out of this bear.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Boys, it's not quite that bad. But no, I do
enjoy it. I thoroughly enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
So a lot a lot of people in Aukland arguably
have these insincorators. And if it's food scraps. I mean,
do you want it stinking in these little buckets? For
is it a week that it gets picked up? If
every week in Auckland, and that was going to be
the same in wangonu We but that is a long
time to have stinking little bits of food scrap sit
in a bucket. And as you mentioned, when you put

(01:06:31):
it on the side of the road, quite like get
picked up by the winds, get kicked around by kids,
get kicked around by you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
Matt. I'm not going around kicking.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
I could see that though, I could generally see you
doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
Although it would be quite fun to kick one. I reckon,
I reckon. You could set up a couple of you
could set up some posts with some of the other buns. Yeah,
you know, a couple of you know, four recycling bins
and a couple of just the normal waist bins and
then kick one of the green ones through the through
the posts, through the uprights. It would be quite fun.

Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
Yeah, you'd get a good kick out of that one
into that oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. The
question we've got for you, it is as a time
that councils up and down New Zealand and just keet
rid of these dinky little buckets. And I would propose
looking at what Christians does, get a proper weirly bin
so that you can actually put your grass clippings and
and everything else that you do in the garden, because
that was my question when I'm doing the landlord's lawns

(01:07:24):
at the moment, where the heck do I put the
grass clippings? So I've just got to stay on the lawn.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
So they've got rid of them because they don't have
to do this now, But in twenty twenty two when
they made the decision to do it. At the time,
there had been a signal that the government was going
to mandate, but there had been no mandate at the point.
So the government the you know, the federal government keeps saying,
because I'm some boiled and America politics, but the central

(01:07:52):
government was going to mandate that you had to have
these little, punishing, humiliating little buns, which is an example
of people trying to do good and then doing well
what they perceived to be good, and then it ends
up with all these they've forced people to have these
useless buns because they haven't rely thought about how it's
all going to work out, and the practicality is of
human nature and such, and as a result, it's slowly

(01:08:13):
over the country they're all going to be removed away,
removed and then thrown out. Yeah, and so what good
has that done?

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
And just going to your point there about wanting to
do something that you think is good and it turns
out it's not that good. This quote from the Wanging
to Eat Deputy Mayor Halling Craig, a food scraps curb
side collection overall was going to cost sixteen hundred dollars
per ton of carbon saved versus one hundred and twenty
dollars for the same effect planting trees. I mean it

(01:08:40):
was nonsense. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighties the number
to call.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
Yes, christ Chitch does love the green bins.

Speaker 3 (01:08:47):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
And in syncarators are bad for the environment, Is that true? Well,
must have been a mushed up carrot going down the
v to the ocean, but down those food down the pipes. Yeah,
that's so bad, all right, love to hear from Sure
someone will come back on it. Is this so our
in sinnc creator? Is that bad? Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
I have heard that, but I need rationale about why
they're so bad for the environment. If it's just a
bit of fish food going into the ocean, what's the problem.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
You can take my own sincreator out of my cold
dead hand.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
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Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
There'd be good afternoon. It's quarter two three. We have
been talking about these little dinky food waste bins that
the councils have been implementing up and down the country.
Wogan we had enough and said nah, we don't want them.
Still cost them a bit of money actually, because they
started the process. So the sunk costs were three trucks
that they've already purchased, three specialized waste collection truck bodies,

(01:09:50):
and a partial production run of twenty three letter curbside
bins and kitchen caddies.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
But there was just so lame o that it was
worth getting rid of them, yeah, rather than continuing it.
And we want to differentiate this from so We're talking
about the tiny, little humiliating green waistbins, not these the
cool ones that you're describing on christ Use and I'm
not fully familiar with which are for your glass, grass
clippings and stuff and much bigger as this text here
high on from Kaipoi, and like christ Church, we have

(01:10:16):
the same green bins. And yes we love them and
we always will. We love them so much. They are
so beautiful.

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
From Liz, Yeah they are. They're just so handy and
I don't know why you don't have them up and
down the country. It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
And syncarator is a fine for the environment, says this text.
Are on nine two nine to two, but don't put
onion skins down them, so like I need more information,
please thanks Tony for that text. Wikee up because I
am putting onion skins down there.

Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
It's quite mysterious and daunting that you don't put onion
skins down there. I thought onion skins would be really
good for I.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
Tell you what you don't do, Tyler, Yeah, don't put
a whole chicken down there. I tried to force the
whole chicken down there, and the actual and cincreator actually
broke and fell off and went bang on the ground
underneath the sink. It actually it actually couldn't handle it
to the point where it just went golm.

Speaker 3 (01:10:59):
I'm not surprised, but do you need instructions for that?
Why did you have to put a whole chicken through
the incincarator?

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
Yeah, it was a live chicken tick.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
It was oh a hundred and aco get a prakish?

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
How are you?

Speaker 10 (01:11:14):
I am good?

Speaker 21 (01:11:15):
Mite?

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
How are you good? What do you reckon about these
little food waste puns?

Speaker 21 (01:11:19):
It's a complete disaster, mate, Like I live here and
fled Bush near the Ormiston College, and it's a heavily
populated area, and maybe I'm the only one who was
using it, and the rest of them they don't even
bora And when it's summertime, the flies get inside there,

(01:11:39):
they lay their eggs, and the meggots come in and
then you can't stand the smell, mate, So I've stopped
using it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
Yeah, I agree. I think in a place like Auckland,
which is a lot more humid, it's pretty crazy. Leave
it for a week.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 21 (01:11:56):
And the other thing, I have lived in Cromwell's South
Island for a while. I think it's a small population.
They are doing it much better than these Oakland guys
who can't even think, you know, And like you said,
like christis they also have a green large bin where
you can throw your food waste, your loanmower cuttings, or

(01:12:17):
your trees prunings, everything and it all goes to compost,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
Yeah, and burs and Auckland you have to apply for that,
you have to request that and pay pay some money
for it. But it's kind of a different situation than
christ because there's so many apartment buildings in Auckland.

Speaker 21 (01:12:35):
So you know, I'm talking about Cromwell in South Island.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
All right, they do the same there. They've got an
extra proper green wheeliban.

Speaker 21 (01:12:43):
Yes, yes, in fact they have four large beans. One
is for like food waste and the grass cuttings and
the plants and other stuff, and one is purely formed
the glass stuff, and the other one is for cardboard
and plastic, and then a small red bin for other
general waste.

Speaker 17 (01:13:02):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
Chromewell's pro big properties down in Chromeo, beautiful spot, giant
fruit down there.

Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
Yeah, lifestyle blocks, a lot of lifestyle blocks.

Speaker 21 (01:13:12):
Yeah, I'm talking about the town.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
Ok, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but they've still
got Yeah, but they've still got larger sections than you'll
generally have in Auckland. Yeah, so a bigger opportunity actually
most some lawns.

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
But just pick it up on your point, mat I
think that's a fair one that in a place like
christ Church and certainly Cromwell, there are primarily residential homes
that have got a bit of a section up here
in Auckland very different, a lot more apartments. So is
it fear to charge everybody for the so called green
wheelibin if not everybody can use it?

Speaker 21 (01:13:46):
Yeah, but like this, this small one is a complete disaster.
I tell what he's using it?

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
Yeah, yeah, we can agree.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
Well, well some people are using it progression than a
lot of people here texting through that say they use
it to keep the kids lego in it. So apparently
it's very handywise you didn't think about that before you
recycled yours toys? People keeping tuppleware in it. It's useful
in some regards, but not for its intended purpose. It
wouldn't seem we haven't seen a single person that supports
the little ones so much support for the larger ones.

(01:14:14):
In christ Church. Yeah, and the ones in Cromwell like
Precissa was talking about the Inceyncorator. Mystery continues because Michelle
just said, Hi guys, Yep, that texture is right. No
onion skins and no banana skins. Absolute no goes with
the waste disposal units.

Speaker 3 (01:14:28):
Again, why I.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
Think I don't like a banana skin. I would never
put that down there. That's going to reget it with it. Yeah,
but I don't know onion skins were a problem. So
onion skins an environmental problem? Or are they a problem
for the workings of the waste disposal unit. That's the
big question that I need the answer to. On nine
two nine two or eight hundred eighty ten eighty or so,

(01:14:51):
talking about what you think about, Well, they're never getting
rid of those little green bins for food waste, and
you know whether we should get rid of them everywhere?

Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
Yep, oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighties. Then I'm
going to call ten two three.

Speaker 4 (01:15:05):
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Speaker 1 (01:15:08):
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Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
Zed B, News Talk zed B we're talking about these
food disposal bins that councils up and down the country
have started dishing out to residents. Apart from Wanganui, they
realized it was a silly idea and of candids.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
Yeah, they're humilility in those little wins. Although we're getting
a bit of love coming through for them, so you know,
we'll show the other side.

Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
Of the story.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
Just because they don't work for me, it doesn't mean
they don't work for some people. Okay, But I would
say that the amount of them that you're seeing out
of the street now very very small percentage of the
other type of bins that are out there, high team,
very simple. Google what not to put in the waste
disposal Also tossing some ice cubes into it can help
clean it and sharpen the blades. Look, I don't google anymore.

(01:15:55):
I just ask people to text through the information on
nine two nine two, and it keeps my fingers nice
and I get terrible, terrible chafing and on my fingers.
It's a danger there from having to goggle. Ey, it's
much easier, just a it's like having like an alixa
high hive mind.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
Well, someone always knows the answer.

Speaker 3 (01:16:14):
The sticks. Get a guys on a plumber onion skin,
sweet as whole chickens not so much.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
Yeah, I mean that chicken agreed the checked that whole
checken I put through the waste disposal wasn't happy about
it either. That's maybe where it blew out the bottom
and smeshed into the bottom of my cupboard.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
Oh, that's the And how much gunk and stuff was
on the floor. That just would have been an absolute mess.
It wasn't cool, man, It wasn't plumber would have been happy.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
I'm still recovering.

Speaker 17 (01:16:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:16:37):
Oh, e one hundred and eighty ten eighties and numbered
called get a grunt.

Speaker 10 (01:16:41):
Hey, you guys here, you're going god.

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
Do you want to talk about waste disposal units?

Speaker 9 (01:16:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 22 (01:16:45):
Yeah, your your waste disposal Like okay, so what happens
when you when you chuck your food waste or worried
with downy waste disposal? Yeah, excuse me. Basically, you use
a truckload of water, a truckload of resources. You you're
mushard all up, you're flush it all the way. But
basically it's gray water, so it goes to your pump station.
From pump station to pump station along with any swerage,

(01:17:07):
and it makes it all or way all the way
to a sewage treatment plant. Then they'll strain it, they'll
they'll take it out, they'll put it in a truck,
they'll compact it and then they'll take it us to
a refuge station and bury it in the ground. So
for what it's worth, you might well just chuck it
straight in the rubbish and it goes straight to.

Speaker 6 (01:17:23):
The refuge station, as opposed.

Speaker 22 (01:17:25):
To using a truckload of resources and commodities and stuff.

Speaker 13 (01:17:29):
To get it there.

Speaker 22 (01:17:30):
So it's probably uneconomical viable. Some people would call it convenient,
But as I say, chuck it straight in the rubbish mate,
that will get there quicker.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
So what do you think about these little green bins
that we've been talking about, you know, the little food
scrap bins, Because that involves you then put them in there,
they go out on the street. Then a truck, a
specialized truck comes and grabs them. And then what do
they do with those? Just take them to the landfill
as well.

Speaker 9 (01:17:54):
Well, I'm not.

Speaker 22 (01:17:55):
Sure what happens now. I mean, obviously you've got to
get the numbers. It's got to be economically bible. I mean,
I just got there from Korea a while ago because
my daughter and the son.

Speaker 20 (01:18:03):
And I'll live over there.

Speaker 22 (01:18:04):
Well they're just coming back, but anyway, they they're gone recycling.
Like you don't just recycle glass and food scrapts that they
recycle glass plastic paper. They separate the glass into different colors.
They're massively big on it. How this system works, I
han't no, but yeah, you get shone upon if you

(01:18:25):
chuck a green bottle in with a white bottle.

Speaker 4 (01:18:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
They're advanced over there. Yeah, the junta, they've taken control
of anything. Hey, should keep this discussion going because we're
going to change topics. But there's so many texts and
calls coming through. Shall we keep it going?

Speaker 3 (01:18:37):
Absolutely, we're getting deep into in syncorated chat. Well that's
the brand name waste disposal unit.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
Yeah, and I'd like to say, read out some of
this positive stuff and take some of these positive calls
on the little green bins that I've been running down
so so nastily.

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
It's good to get some balance.

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
So eight hundred, I mean, I'm not going to change
my mind, but that story I can't wait to hear
the calls.

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
Yeah, eight ten eighty is the number to call. Love
to hear from your news sport and where they're coming
up next. You're listening to Matt and Tyler Good Afternoon.

Speaker 1 (01:19:03):
To you your new home for insafe, full and Entertaining talk.
It's Mattia and Taylor Adams Afternoons with the Volvo XC
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Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
You welcome back into the show. And we have been
talking about food waste collection services, those little dinky bins
food waste bins that have been delivered up and down
the country by Council's to residents. Wangan Nui said at
the last minute they weren't going to have that service.
It originally was going to cost households around eighty bucks
a year. After they've canceled it though due to sunk costs,

(01:19:39):
there will be a charge of around seventeen bucks a year.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
Yeah, And the decision follows a government policy reversal on
December eighteenth last year, ending a mandate to have the
service in place by twenty twenty seven. So it was mandated,
but it was going to be mandated, but it isn't
any more and no one was using them. So it's
not really a loss. But I have to look there's

(01:20:04):
a raft of texts coming through now and support of them.

Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
Bit of a pushback. There's a bit of pushback, which
is good. That's what we like here. We look it
a little bit of pushback.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
On my overtly demonstrative attack on them.

Speaker 3 (01:20:16):
And you're going to say your piece shortly, but can't
just read out this one. It's quite strong, it's passionate.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
Okay, I want to hear it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:21):
See get a Tyler, Matt.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
If it's strong and passionate because you read it out
in a strong and passionate voice, please Tyler.

Speaker 3 (01:20:25):
Get a Tyler and Matt. I wonder how you two
get on with the other aspects of your recycling and
our household. We have six adults and we only put
out one times forty liter bucket of waste that we
can't use each week. All of our soft plastics get recycled,
our bottles, our tins, and our food scraps going out
in our little bins that you're talking about. We are

(01:20:46):
trying to help create a sustainable environment. Do you think
with your laziness that you're trying to help us create
a sustainable environment? I don't think so you need to
buck up your ideas. A little bit on our street
on the north shore in Casta Bay, everyone uses the
little food scraps green bin and we all recycle. It's
the way the future. Thank you from Scott.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
Oh, thank you, yes, thank you, thank you all in okay,
good nature? Could you read that again in a nice voice.
Now we've seen the thanks at the end. Yeah, well,
the whole the original trial was on the north shore
as well. I wonder if they were part of that
original trial. Oh, here we go, So here's someone that
was on knowin two two we were part of the
original trial on the shore. There you go, handy, isn't
it good? Proves my point for the little scrap bins.

(01:21:30):
So we've been doing it for years. It's never a problem.
We put the vigual scraps into the little inside bin,
never put anything smelly in it. Well, if it's food scraps,
some of it's going to be smelly. And when full,
it goes into the outside bin to be collected weekly.
Oh I see hand a minute. We put it into
the visual scraps into a little inside bin. Okay, so

(01:21:50):
they've got it. They've got an even smaller bin. This
is like those Russian a Russian dolls cup situation of
a bush cut. The method cut down on rubbish so
much that the bin goes out about every three weeks.
We love the system and we have never had the
smell problems. I'm fascinated with the comments coming through. That's
someone from the trial. So the trial we really well,
and it sounds like people on the north Shore for

(01:22:10):
some reason by the text coming through, it seems to
work for them.

Speaker 3 (01:22:13):
Over there, they're all about it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
But Central Aukland, where I live, there is very few
of them out on the street. As I said before,
I actually took a video of the rows and rows
of blue and red bins and then there was just
two sad little green bins. One of them would be
knocked over by me. No one of them had been
knocked over at the end of them, and it just

(01:22:35):
seemed like everyone's got them in the house.

Speaker 3 (01:22:37):
It's a sad analogy for how they're going. And but
just to their text from Scott, in my defense, if
I may Scott that I don't think these little dinky
bins are worth worth the money. But I am advocating
for the green bins. That I've got down in Christs
use eighty liter bins on wheels. They get used on
a weekly basis. We love them down there. You can
put anything you want in there as long as it's organic, and.

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
We love them. And Scott, I too, am disgusted by
the amount of waste there is. I just every week
I see the amount of stuff we're putting out in
the red and the blue bins, and I, boy, we're
consuming too much stuff. Yeah, like we've just got it.
It's just gross purely before you even get into the
environmental fact or the waste of money, of the amount

(01:23:19):
of stuff that gets thrown out, well, it was absolutely
disgusted me.

Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
It was only yesterday we were talking about that lamb
that you're going to eat that's been sitting out in
the sun for five days. You just hate waste that
much that you're gonna poison yourself to make sure it
doesn't get to waste.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
I those sausages and I'm fine that we were talking
about yesterday. If you remember the chat listeners are those
little green beans are fabulous? Is sou So there's a
lot of support coming through for these little beans that
I've been deriding. Ask any Auckland who went camping over
the summer. They are the perfect size for a caravan
or tint the well. I mean that's like the people
that are using them to keep their lego in them.

Speaker 3 (01:23:52):
Yeah or dog. I mean it's just a free bucket
from the council, wasn't it. Johnny, how are you?

Speaker 19 (01:23:57):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (01:23:58):
Yeah, good mate.

Speaker 23 (01:24:00):
I was just listening to what the toy you were
saying in regards to the lack of use and even
in regards to the trial. I mean, we got them
here in Towering And maybe about a year and a
half ago, and they did kick off quite quite strongly.
I've seen them consistently out with the other Binns, but
they've pretty much just non a system now. I mean

(01:24:23):
we've got about fifty maybe sixty houses down our street
we live down towards the end, so we get to
see as we drive through on how many of them
are out, and out of sixty of them, you'd be lucky,
you know, all the Bins seems to be out, but
the Green Bins you'd be lucky if there is probably
two out of those sixty. So I don't think it's

(01:24:44):
kind of the sectations are taking nots just haven't kind
of sustained themselves. You know, they're just not there that
they used to be. They're not getting used at all.

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
Yeah, and you've got any solution to a problem has
to be practical, and I for a lot of people,
those little bins are just not a practical way to
deal with the situation and are And if that's the case,
then it's just an absolute waste of time to spend
the money on them. And then no, you go, no,

(01:25:16):
you go, Johnny.

Speaker 23 (01:25:17):
So sorry, if it's a city to city thing, that's
you know, just evaluated, you know, whether it be six
monthly or so forth, and it can be optional. You
can opt them therefore we can pay you your eighty
dollars annually or so forth. But I mean, we have
a mayor that doesn't live in our city, so it's
probably a little bit out of touch with our problems here.

(01:25:40):
So you know, we we yeah, we just get left
with them. And and then to be fair, they get
the smelly out of the back if you use them
for six months when everyone was using them and we
were two and we're recycled. We are recyclers in our family.
But when it comes to the food scraps, that's just
non existent.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
Yeah, I think it's so much to we call Johnny.

Speaker 3 (01:26:01):
I just wonder how long it would be until you
get a return on investment if everybody was using them,
Because I've just had a look how many private Dwellington
Auckland five hundred and forty two thousand, So five hundred
and forty two thousand of these little green buckets. That's
a lot of places station.

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
Surely not they didn't? Did they put out five hundred
that many?

Speaker 3 (01:26:19):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:26:19):
And then people are just putting them in their recycling bin.
They're living the little green one and their big blue
one and this how does that help them?

Speaker 3 (01:26:26):
How much energy is wasted there? And that's just you know,
a beck of the envelope calculation. But it was going
to be nineteen thousand bins long?

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
Was any research done into you know, human behavior before
they before they rolled those out?

Speaker 3 (01:26:39):
Silly? Don't there?

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
Because it seems a clear demonstration that these aren't in
a line with human behavior. And you could tut as
some people are tutting for people not using them, But
if people aren't using them, then people have spoken. Hey, guys,
we are on the north Shore, about one hundred houses
in our street. I would say there would be eight
food bins put out. We compost our vegetable bits and
put the smelly stuff meat rappers, et cetera. And our

(01:27:01):
freezer downstairs. Well, we put our rubbishmen out about once
a month. The rest is recycled. I do not like
paying for a service I don't need. Surely it is
better to encourage people to compost. A lot of people
are saying that, yeah, and that's the correct way to
say it as well. Compost Hi guys, get a worm
farm or decks by digging a hole in your garden.

(01:27:21):
Too easy, cheers Reese. Yeah, dig a hole, put your
put your greater carrot down it, ye, and your old chickens.

Speaker 3 (01:27:32):
The insincorator discussion has fallen off a little bit, but
if you want to have a chat about your waste
disposal unit, we still haven't really got to the bottom
about how environmentally friendly they are. I mean, I still
think that makes a lot of sense. We had the
guy that ran through and said, what happens when you
put it down the waste disposal unit and it's got
to go through all those various bits of infrastructure before

(01:27:53):
it's cleaned and goes out. To the ocean. But I
don't know, to me, that still makes more sense than just.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
Ivist claiming it doesn't even go out to the ocean.
It ends up just in a landfill anyway. But I mean,
what's the difference really between that and short like it's
a use of water, it's using an ysyncreator. Of course
it takes quite a lot of water put it to
put it down there. That's fair well, but not that
much really, just gonna remember about that much? How much?

Speaker 3 (01:28:17):
Is that very cathartic herring that noise?

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
Yeah it is, But you know, is it that much
better for you then to just put it into a
plastic little bin and then then trucks come around and
pick it up and then transport it to the place
as opposed to just going down the gray water pipes?
I don't know. Why is it so much better? Tell me,
oh wait, one hundred eighty ten eighty or nine two
nine two why it's bad to use an and syncreator

(01:28:40):
love to hear from you. And look, if you think
that these little green food scraps bins are good, love
to hear from you. If you think they're bad, love
to hear from you as well. O w one hundred
eighteen eighty.

Speaker 3 (01:28:52):
Number sixteen plus three. Remember, Oh that is a good sound,
doesn't it. Thank you very much for that, Andrew have
that on repeats. Then remember that's the beautiful sound of
a waste disposal unit. Or in cincreator is some of us.

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
I don't have a lot of talents, but I can
impersonate an incincreator. Lads. I live on the North Shore too,
So there's been a lot of talk from the North
Shore where this original trial for Auckland was done with
the I've gotta stop calling them humiliating little green bins
because that's sort of leading the argument. Can we still watch?
Yeah maybe dinky? Yeah, I love on thetle Shaw and

(01:29:29):
so a lot of people have over there, so they
love them. We've got this whole rafter texts coming through
saying we love them. Ye, lads, I live on Little
Show too. I hate those little green weasel bins. Absolute joke,
more plastic, not financially viable. That's from dere so he's
calling them weasel bins.

Speaker 3 (01:29:47):
Yeah, that'll catch on. And this one, hey, boys, can
you tell me? Can I put a dirty old pizza
box with sauce and cheese all over it into my
green bin. But why do I have to rinse the
plastic takeaway food containers can't be contamination. It all goes
to the same truck, Matt. What should I do rinse

(01:30:08):
or not? Please? Help? Thanks from anonymous?

Speaker 2 (01:30:11):
Okay, thanks a non Look what is the I think
we got to the bottom of the pizza gate situation. Yeah,
it's a different pizza gate. It's not the big pizza gate,
you know, QAnon situation. I think that you can't put
a soiled pizza box into the recycling I think you can't,

(01:30:34):
especially you know, if you.

Speaker 3 (01:30:35):
Go on the green burn, because no, it goes in
the red bin.

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
Now and the full disclosure here, I have done that
after kids parties at my house with ten pizzas have
been ordered in. I've just put them, stacked them all
up in the in the recycling bin. But I understand
that you're not supposed to do that if the cardboarder
is soiled, even if it's just soiled with grease. But
I could be wrong. Someone will know. Hey, this is
good because we had read out the text from Scott

(01:30:58):
and it was passionate and his's responded. Thank you guys.
You are absolutely awesome for reading out my message and
giving me so much feedback. That's impressive. Once again, it's
all work together to helped create a much more sustainable
environment for the people, for the generations ahead of us.
There you go, Scott, Hands done, You're part of the team.
Now hands across the ocean. All right, Greg, your thoughts

(01:31:20):
on food scraps, Yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:31:22):
Well, I think it's our whole recycling system to start with,
because don't we ship all our recycling overseas or something,
or do they just end up in the landfill?

Speaker 2 (01:31:35):
There is like we've had a big discussions on this,
and it's actually quite hard to get to the bottom
of what actually happens. We talked to an expert from
a university said that eighty percent of everything that goes
in your recycling but gets recycled, but he didn't seem
to be able to back that up at all. And
when we've talked to people at that have actually worked
at the recycling at the refuge transfer centers, they say
there's only so much they can get through the day,

(01:31:57):
and it's not that much, so it all comes in.
They get through as much as they can, which isn't much,
and then they put it all into the landfilleh so
and there has been in the past shipping it over
to other countries to deal with it. I'm not sure
if that's still going on or not or not, Greg, But.

Speaker 3 (01:32:14):
We don't know why it's so complicated greed because somebody knows,
somebody knows how it all works and how much we
actually recycle. But for some reason, it's just incredibly.

Speaker 2 (01:32:24):
Guy that was that you that you rustled up, Tyler,
You rustled up this expert from well, a nice guy.

Speaker 3 (01:32:30):
His numbers were just a little bit dubious.

Speaker 2 (01:32:32):
From what university was he Auckland? I think? Yeah, well anyway, no, he.

Speaker 3 (01:32:36):
Was an independent recycling analyst.

Speaker 2 (01:32:38):
Oh right, okay, Well he didn't seem to know anything
about it, so I blame you. Yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:32:44):
Have you guys heard of graphine?

Speaker 2 (01:32:46):
No grapphine, no grapheine.

Speaker 19 (01:32:49):
They use it like Chipman manufacture and all that sort
of thing, and it's quite hard to come by it.
Well generally they used to mine it and stuff like that.
But is a way of turning like anything carbon based,
being your recycling of food scraps or even placed its
carbon based anything like that. They put it in a

(01:33:09):
tube and run a charge through it which turns it
into graphene, and the other byproduct is hydrogen. With net benefits,
you end up with more money than what goes into
the process. Wow, I think we should set up a
plant like that somewhere here.

Speaker 10 (01:33:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
Well, I mean if that, if it works as you
say it does, then you know you're making more money.

Speaker 19 (01:33:31):
Boxes. You don't even have to wash your boxes because
it's all these gardens are just going through that.

Speaker 3 (01:33:37):
That charge makes sense. I mean genuinely, there there was
some positive movement in that technology of burning some of
the waste and turning that into energy. And I don't
know the official terminology for that, and that I could.

Speaker 19 (01:33:51):
Burn yeah, sorry, you could burn the hydrogen afterwards if
you wanted. But the grafphene, I think a ton of
grafphine at the time i'd seen this thing was like
sixty million American a ton, and then you had serplous
amounts of hydrogen that was worth heats.

Speaker 2 (01:34:06):
How are you spelling graphene? Greg, just trying to look
it up and get my mind around us.

Speaker 7 (01:34:12):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (01:34:12):
G r A p h I Ok, look, oh there
we go. Oh yep, graphine ox e e yep, okay.

Speaker 19 (01:34:20):
And on YouTube you should see a few videos that's
been doing some of the research into this. Yeah, because
if I think if you had one of these plants
in every city, like we'd be pumping out graphene to
the rest of the world and we'd have all the
hydrogen to you know, do with what we want, either
for heating or for yeah, many different processes.

Speaker 3 (01:34:44):
Interest.

Speaker 2 (01:34:44):
Thank you so much, Greg, I'm gonna I'm going to
read up on graphene.

Speaker 3 (01:34:47):
Yeah. Right, we were got to play some messages, but
plenty of more people want to chat and we'd love
to hear from you as well. Oh eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call twenty five
past three.

Speaker 4 (01:35:01):
Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams.

Speaker 1 (01:35:03):
Afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty on Youth Talks.

Speaker 3 (01:35:06):
V News Talks. Be good afternoon, Wayne. You want to
have a chat about those little green bins?

Speaker 17 (01:35:12):
Yeah, amazing little green bins. I've just been driving through
Packerger and Buckland's Beach in Auckland.

Speaker 4 (01:35:19):
It's a rubbish dayful.

Speaker 17 (01:35:21):
And almost every house has got their red top bin
and their little green bin beside us.

Speaker 2 (01:35:28):
Okay, right, because there's different in a lot of different areas.
So would you say Buckland, Buckland's beachway and packer, Yeah, yeah, beautiful, beautiful.

Speaker 17 (01:35:38):
And our experience is that you buy the little pink
or green biodegradable bags from the super market of the
councilor she gave them out of the beginning, and if
you put them inside your green bin, follow that the
scraps tightly. The we store them in another place and

(01:36:00):
the flyers can't get in, they don't smell. They settle
down a little bit over a couple of days. You
pop the more back in the green burn and fired
out on the side of the road, and the man
in the truck comes along and lifts it up, puts
it in a way it goes down to gisbone.

Speaker 3 (01:36:18):
And where do you get those the plastic bags from
the supermarket?

Speaker 17 (01:36:22):
Every super make it's about two dollars for one hundred
bags or something or other like that. It's cheap.

Speaker 2 (01:36:27):
Oatt. I forgot that, Wayne that when when those little
green beans came out, they came with the plastic bags
as well inside them. I totally forgot that part of it.

Speaker 17 (01:36:36):
And the old thing is that once like unlike you're
recycling and what have you, goes to a recycling plant.

Speaker 20 (01:36:42):
All the.

Speaker 17 (01:36:45):
Waste from the green bins goes as back backloading for
trucks that are coming up from tyravity and going back
down there empty. And there's a huge plant down there
that is really really getting underway that's producing composts and
fertilizers and all sorts of other stuff out of the

(01:37:09):
green waste from Auckland.

Speaker 2 (01:37:11):
Wow, so is that Auckland? Is that Auckland wide?

Speaker 17 (01:37:16):
That's that's happened in Auckland wide. There is a bit
of resistance from some people. Some people say it's stupid
and useless and they hate the green bins. They may
use them in the caravans, but at the end of
the day, it is that part is a real, really,
really good working example of recycling.

Speaker 2 (01:37:34):
What do you think it is about that area you're
talking about in Pakuranga, That Pakuranga, that's what that is
doing it. Whereas where I live in so many people
that are texting through here saying where they are. People
have just given up on them. And you'll see you
go down a street with one hundred bins and you'll
see two of these green bins. Is what is it
out there that is making people do it?

Speaker 17 (01:37:53):
Do you think Wayne, when well, when they started it,
the education program, like I live in the area, but
the education program, and I mean it was it was very,
very very well done. The local board out of here.
You had pamphlets in every letterbox, They had people going
around talking about it. They had signs on every street

(01:38:16):
corner it's starting and what have you. And the green
bins came out and like, not everybody is doing it,
I can guarantee you that, but a huge number of
people have picked up, picked it up and run with it.

Speaker 2 (01:38:29):
Yeah. So do you think I was premature to put
my little green bin in my big blue bin?

Speaker 19 (01:38:34):
Well?

Speaker 17 (01:38:34):
Probably, like give it a go. You know, it's I'm
not talking about recycling and the pizza boxes and all
that sort of stuffs. The wonderful thing about the green
binners all of you buy it, your sort of vegetable
and what have you, waste can go in there and
you don't have to worry about sorting it.

Speaker 3 (01:38:54):
That was very if you're called Wayne, it was very
diplomatic of Wayne just said, shame on you, shame on
you for disposing of your green bin.

Speaker 2 (01:39:02):
Well, they're into it in Buckland's Beach. Yeah, I've got
a lot of time for Bucklan's Beach. Was out there
a few weekends ago for a party.

Speaker 3 (01:39:08):
And McLean's Park is just above Buckland's Beach.

Speaker 2 (01:39:11):
I don't know. It's a lovely dog bug all right, Yeah, yeah,
I don't know. I'll just say, going from where I
live in Central Aukland out to Buckland's Beach for a
kid's birthday party in a weekend, it's an epic It's
an epic adventure. Yeah, it's a long goods a long drive.

Speaker 3 (01:39:27):
Yeah. Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number called headlines with Raylene coming up. Then we're going
to have a check to David who works in recycling,
and hopefully he can answer all of our recycling questions.

Speaker 2 (01:39:38):
This text from Liz the differences. You live in an
area of rednecks, Matt with a smiley face, Yes, Central Auckland,
Man Needham. I think they might have I think I
think people needed me might have voted in the greens.
But yeah, at.

Speaker 3 (01:39:52):
One point the headlines with Raylene coming.

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Speaker 3 (01:41:15):
Thank you very much, Rayleen, and having a great discussion
about little green bins and sincreators recycling in general.

Speaker 2 (01:41:22):
Yeah, I guess my point on them is, no matter
how seemingly or actually virtuous your intentions were the people
that were mandating these little green bins, they don't work. Yeah,
They're not practical. So if you put something out that's
not practical when people don't want to use it, except
for Bucklan's Beach and the couple of streets.

Speaker 3 (01:41:42):
On the north shore Pasta Bay, maybe, and.

Speaker 2 (01:41:45):
There were some people around the country that enjoy them,
but not all I know. But if it doesn't work
and it isn't align with human nature, then all you've
done is make thousands and thousands and thousands of little
plastic bins that now need to be recycled. Yeah, or
are being used to keep Leger.

Speaker 3 (01:42:02):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:42:04):
The whole thing is predicated on an underlying virtue. We
have angered the echo God and we need to repent.
That's from Roger, right, and this one from Paul.

Speaker 3 (01:42:12):
I get a guys repent to love that the other
big plus with the green bins is I really use
my en syncreat waste disposal anymore. And you can put
fish bones, meat bones, etc. Et cetera, and as well
love them from Paul.

Speaker 2 (01:42:25):
And you put a hold chicken, hold chicken in compost
yourself and put it on your own garden rather than
driving it all over the country. Get a big compost
and put it outside, have a small plastic container with
a lid for inside, and when it is full, emptied
into the compost and wash the container and start again.
I mean, if you've got a garden, and you know

(01:42:45):
you're a gardener, and you are lucky enough to have
a section yep, that you can do some gardening on,
grow some stuff on, then you'd be silly not to
be running a compost situation, wouldn't you.

Speaker 3 (01:42:56):
Well you'd say that I tried to run a compost situation.
Then in our place in christ Us, we were lucky
enough to have a section a lot more Edmond than
I thought it was. Apparently you've got to stack it,
so a little bit of like grass or hedge tram
means then a bit of fruit and kind of stack
it that way to get the best out of it
or otherwise it just turns into a stinky mess. And
of course I just put fruit in their whole chickens,
just whatever, not much grass or hedge.

Speaker 2 (01:43:18):
It sounds like that's how I put the splint on that.
It sounds like that's a that's a you're an idiot problem,
as opposed to the whole posting thing. That does not
sound like a lot. But I had a waste disposal,
you know, and you could have turned it into a
nice project and you could have embraced the process. David,
you work in recycling, well we can.

Speaker 9 (01:43:38):
Recycling work for a company called christ Clean, and part
of our corporate sustainability, we have this really cool project
we've been running for the last sort of five or
six years called Recycled kiwied So look up recycle Kiwiedt
code on intent. We give away free resources.

Speaker 3 (01:43:55):
Right, this is good. I'm just looking at it now, David,
So sorry mate to jump in there and carry on.
So I'm just looking at recycled kiwi.

Speaker 9 (01:44:03):
Dot code on YEP and basically free resources. That started
out as a idea for schools to adopt new practices
around waste minimi minimization, and from that we've now opened
it up to organizations and businesses who have really adopted this,
which is really cool. And it's just there's some resources
on there with video resources that explain things that can

(01:44:26):
be recycled. Like I've heard one of your callers talking
about pizza boxes being soiled, a little bit of grease.
It's fine as long as it's clean, it can be recycled.
Plastic bottle tops, they can be recycled if you've taken
to certain designated areas, but recycled. Kili is the one
stop shop. We've given away over seven thousand packs which

(01:44:47):
includes stickers, posters, informational brochures and stuff within and it's
all free. All you have to do is order the
pack and it'll be delivered to your business and then
you can set up your own waste minimum minimization set up.
You can do it at home as well. It's really
really easy.

Speaker 2 (01:45:05):
Oh well, good on you, David. So when you say
when when you say these this waste minimization, is that
utilizing the council recycling bins and rubbish collection or is
this is this outside of that that can be it's
part of.

Speaker 9 (01:45:21):
It, and it's just sort of it breaks that misunderstanding
of what you can and can't do with what we provide.
It's simplified the stickers. The posters explained things the certain
plastic criterias as well one, twos, threes and sevens and
five and so we're just sort of trying to mystify
all that with simple right straight up. You know New

(01:45:42):
Zealand recycling standards that we're followed. So yeah, it's just
there for anyone to look and you know, watch some
of the videos we've done. If we've got a local
ambassador who's an up and comings pro surfer, he's helping.

Speaker 2 (01:45:55):
Us run this as well with the game so news
you can use what's what's the site again.

Speaker 9 (01:46:01):
David recycle KII dot co dot nz.

Speaker 2 (01:46:05):
Thank you for your call. Nice check it out if
you want to have the is because I feel like
in recycling they lost a lot of us when they
listed all the different types of plastics and all the
different types of things you could do. And you can
understand why they did because of how they're recycling. They
you know that you know the contamination and the trucks
or whatever. But as soon as you tell people that
are tired after work and you know are battling away

(01:46:28):
and paying their taxes and you know, dealing with their kids.
And then you've got to run down a chart of
what you can recycle and what you can not do.
Human nature is going to as such that a large
percentage of us are just going to check out of
it right.

Speaker 3 (01:46:44):
It gets too hard. And the rules were different in
different towns, which made no sense. And then you know,
recently they changed the rules on the pizza boxes. Used
to be okay in the green Burn, Now it's not
Caroline food scraps.

Speaker 4 (01:46:57):
Your thoughts Caroline.

Speaker 8 (01:46:59):
Here, Hi guys. The one thing that I haven't heard
any callers talk about. On the back of our rate
slots were charged eighty one dollars nineteen for waste management
food scrap service that gets charged to everybody that's a
rate notors. They never asked us, who have in syncorators,

(01:47:20):
whether we needed these little green bins. But however, I
have one, and I love my own syncreator. But my
green bin has never been used. My baby thing that
I'm supposed to put in the kitchen somewhere, which it
never came near the kitchen. But no one has said
about the charge that they put on the rates, notus said, everybody,

(01:47:43):
whether they use a little bit or not, gets charged.
So when they stop these little green bins, we pay
nearly three thousand a year for rates.

Speaker 21 (01:47:51):
But if they stop these little.

Speaker 8 (01:47:52):
Green bins, are they going to refund the money they've
already charged us for the years that we've never used us.

Speaker 3 (01:47:59):
That would make logical scenes, But good luck on their account, Carolyn.

Speaker 2 (01:48:04):
It's an interesting thing that you say, you know, the
little green bins are supposed to be in your kitchen.
I mean that's the idea of it. Because they're so small,
it would be kind of weird. Although some people did
say that they were running a systeam a lunch box,
that they were ferying up and down or where where
their thing is. But you know, in a lot of kitchens,
if you're an apartment, say, for example, you don't really
have room even for the humiliating little green bin in there.

(01:48:27):
And and and some people and also the kind it's
kind of like wheelibins are generally in the garage or
just outside.

Speaker 3 (01:48:36):
If they stink a little bit, at least you've got
some wind flow there to help things along.

Speaker 2 (01:48:39):
Yeah, they're not normally kept in the kitchen, and there's
a lot of people that are very kitchen proud that
they have designed their kitchen very specifically, and they don't
want to neighbors.

Speaker 8 (01:48:49):
And the rubbers from Man's been because they're still out
when I get mining, and then they know that their
bins are being collected. And the two little green bins
that I get in have either got a little white
rooms wiggling around in them. All the food is still
stuck in the bottom, which hasn't you know, when he's
shaken it into his track, it hasn't fallen out. So

(01:49:11):
those ones aren't using little plastic bags for these people
that live.

Speaker 13 (01:49:15):
Up right aways.

Speaker 8 (01:49:17):
But the thing is, the point that I really wanted
to make is the money that everybody is charged and
we weren't asked, We were just targeted on our rates.
You had up all the people all around that got
a green bun. The money that they raked in at
eighty one dollars a year, I think must have been
quite a nice one fall for them.

Speaker 2 (01:49:38):
Yeah, thank you, Caroline. And that goes back to the
topic of one o'clock around voting in local body elections,
so you get the people that do what you want
them to do. Although to be fair, This was mandated
by the government, wasn't it. This is manvated by central government.
Has just recently been rolled back. Those something to deal

(01:49:58):
with the food scraps.

Speaker 3 (01:50:00):
But just on that, why did Wang and Nui get
to cancel a the last minute? They must have mucked
around a lot longer. I mean Auckland council. It was mandated,
but Auckland Councils said, oh, we don't want to do it,
but it's mandated, so let's just get it done. Well
it quickly.

Speaker 2 (01:50:14):
It was mandated that it had to come in by
twenty twenty seven a right, So the people that bought
it in earlier were just getting it, you know, trying
to be at the front of the class with their
legs crossed and their hand up to impress the teacher.

Speaker 3 (01:50:26):
Should have procrastinated like Wanganui.

Speaker 2 (01:50:27):
Yeah, I can't believe they were so efficient to get
around to doing something yet.

Speaker 3 (01:50:33):
Right, Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
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Speaker 3 (01:50:51):
Good afternoon, and we're talking about the little Green Bins
after Wanganui said no more and have pulled that service,
but it is still in place in many parts of
the country, including Auckland and I believe Wellington as well.

Speaker 2 (01:51:02):
Yeah, this is good point. Actually, I've forgotten all kinds
of things about the little Green bin because I got
rid of them for ages and I'm just looking at
the outside of them, not being outside, if you know
what I mean. Yep, I'm looking at the bins from
the outside. But the little Green bins were designed to outside.
They came with an even smaller cream bench top bin.
So the two bins arrived and they also arrived with
plastic bags. Yeah so so yeah, I take back that

(01:51:24):
it would be humiliating having a weally bin in your kitchen.

Speaker 10 (01:51:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:51:28):
I've been corrected there and I appreciate it. Jenny. You
think the whole things are no brainer when it comes
with getting rid of waste.

Speaker 24 (01:51:37):
Hi, guys, Yes, I do, because I have saved money.
I'd say, my waistemaster broke down and I thought, well,
I'm not going to replace that. I save money on
water because I don't use my waistmaster, and I have
very little rubbish. And in our streets and Cintelia's, which
is very long streets, there are green bins.

Speaker 3 (01:51:58):
All the way down the street right, so they got
it st Helia's as well. But honestly, called, Jenny, do
you miss the waste disposal unit a little bit?

Speaker 19 (01:52:05):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:52:05):
It's quite cathartic just hearing that grinding in.

Speaker 24 (01:52:09):
No, not at all, and then it gets clamped up
and then you have to call a plumber. And I
saved money and you also save.

Speaker 8 (01:52:16):
A lot of water.

Speaker 2 (01:52:17):
What are you putting down it, Jenny? That's clogging it?
Not You're not putting banana skins down there, are you?

Speaker 15 (01:52:22):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:52:24):
Have you ever tried to put a whole chicken down there?
I tried that.

Speaker 3 (01:52:29):
What idiot would do that?

Speaker 2 (01:52:30):
Yeah, that was a bad idea, fell out, The bottom
just went climbed, hit the ground.

Speaker 24 (01:52:37):
I just think it's I use it quite easily, and
I have a little of the yellow the yellow bin
under I've got a small place under the bench from
the kitchen. Then I just freeze the stuff when it's
full and then put it out in the green and
when it's ready.

Speaker 2 (01:52:53):
So that's interesting. So the places that we've heard from
that that are doing it in the streets aligned Buckland's
Beach yep, some hell he is, nor Shore, a couple
of streets. I wonder what it is about different areas
that have embraced the little green bins and areas that haven't.
Because definitely in my area and I live in Central Auckland,

(01:53:16):
then hardly anyone's using them, yep. But then Jenny, in
your area, lots of people are using them. So that's
that's interesting. Yeah, yeah, all right, I can't understand. Yeah,
I don't know why. But anyway, good on you, Jenny,
thank you for cool.

Speaker 3 (01:53:28):
I'm going to say that Mount Wellington not much use either.

Speaker 2 (01:53:32):
We go strawberries in our little green bin, says the
sticks there. That is smart, lovely, it is very nice.

Speaker 20 (01:53:37):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:53:37):
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Speaker 3 (01:54:01):
Good afternoon, It is six to four Don, good afternoon,
Good afternoon.

Speaker 7 (01:54:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:54:09):
I live in Glendali. The green recycling bins mostly out
in front of people's places. You have a little kitchen caddy.
Look at saving a lot of money on not using
water to put stuff down the waste the gurgler. And
also you're not overburdening the wastewater system. So I think
to not use it is a bit selfish, you know,

(01:54:32):
don't contribute to the problem. The next thing is the
other thing? Is there any other point? Is that eventually
our rubbish bins are going to be weighed. And since
we've been recycling more and using the scraps, have been
going out every week, we don't have very much in
our rubbish bin at all. You will be getting they
will be getting weighed and you will be getting charged

(01:54:54):
for the weight you put out of the gate.

Speaker 2 (01:54:55):
Where did you say you were, Don, Glen Dowie, Glen Dowie.
So a lot of little little green bins out in
Glen Dowie, because there's been a war of words around
where they are. Someone said before that there's a lot
out in sin hell he is this business. There's a
load of rubbish part in the punt saying hele is
don't use them at all.

Speaker 3 (01:55:11):
Right again, Glenn Daler, a very nice part of open.

Speaker 2 (01:55:15):
Yeah, but I guess the thing is thanks for you
called don guess the thing.

Speaker 4 (01:55:19):
It's not.

Speaker 2 (01:55:20):
It's not just a one for one though, is it.
Because if you put them down then syncreated, that's fine whatever.
But the little green bins are being picked up by
trucks and transported around everywhere, so it's not like it's
exactly environmentally friendly. There's still a lot involved in picking
them up.

Speaker 3 (01:55:36):
Yeah, and particularly if they made five hundred thousand odds
and people like you who have just recycled them again
in your recycled bed, which is fair enough too. I'm
sure a lot of people did that. Well.

Speaker 2 (01:55:46):
This text here in nine two nine two says put
the green bin in the balloon bin.

Speaker 10 (01:55:49):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (01:55:51):
That's exactly what metts.

Speaker 2 (01:55:53):
And look, whether you agree with incincreators or not, I
disagree with people that say they aren't fun. Yeah, I
mean that's one of the joys of cocking. You chop
things up and you just put it in the sink.
Turn on them.

Speaker 3 (01:56:07):
It's so cathartic.

Speaker 2 (01:56:08):
It's a good time. And look, I believe the cleaning
up is as important as the cooking. Yeah, if you're
clean as you go.

Speaker 3 (01:56:14):
Just something about destroying something like onion peels or banana peels,
isn't it. It's like a good fire.

Speaker 2 (01:56:20):
Can I get my own syncreator plumbed into my little
green bin and then I can make everyone happy?

Speaker 3 (01:56:23):
Can we get an in syncreator in the studio here?
That's what we need right think.

Speaker 2 (01:56:27):
We could put a lot of your comments that you
make down it because they're rubbish tiler.

Speaker 3 (01:56:32):
That's why they pay them the big bucks. Folks, thank
you very much for today. Really enjoy that. We'll do
it all again tomorrow and.

Speaker 2 (01:56:40):
They keep it green.

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