Full Show Podcast: 18 March 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hellore you, great New Zealanders, and welcome to Matt and
Tyler Afternoons, Full Pod number eighty nine for Tuesday, the
eighteenth of March twenty twenty five. I keep remembering in
these intros to tell people the things that we don't
get to. Because once again we didn't get to the
Rolliston couple who had a car smashed through the front
of their house and land on the wife's bed, pinning

(00:40):
her down. Husband got superhuman powers and lifted the car up.
We haven't got to that for two days in a row.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
No hell of a story, and we'll preview it as
you're here next but we don't quite get to it today,
but we're going to track down the couple.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
What happened is we got embroiled in some fantastic and
shocking hitchhiking stories and also some advice around how to
run a hospow business and such, so it was a
great chat anyway. Maybe we'll get to that topic tomorrow,
but thank you for tuning into The mantyla Afternoon's Full
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(01:18):
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Speaker 1 (01:25):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and
everything in between. Matt and Taylor Afternoons with the Volvo
XC ninety, attention to detail and a commitment to comfort
news talks.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
They'd be.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Good afternoon to you. Welcome into Tuesday. Hope you're having
a great afternoon. Fantastic. Do you have your company as always?

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Get a Tyler? Good everyone?

Speaker 3 (01:54):
So big show today after three o'clock. An interesting situation
you found yourself?

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, I wonder if I did the right thing here?
And what you think about it? So quick rundown of
a situation. It's raining outside. I'm in my car waiting
for my son who's in an appointment. Someone basically knocks
on the window and says, my phone's flat. Yep, can
you order me an uber? I go no, because you

(02:19):
know I can't send you off on an uber. What
if you soil the thing? We talk for a bit,
it's raining down. I say, God, jump in, I'll give
you a lift and drive this person off Acrosstown and
drop them off and then come back and pick up
my son from the appointment. Is that the right thing
to do? Is that just being naively generous? Or is
it just what we should do navally thing to do

(02:40):
in this day and age? You know the opposite? Well,
you know what I could have done if I hadn't
done that. The other option was just leave someone in
the pouring rain who couldn't get where they needed to go.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Yeah, this is going to be a great chat. I've
got a lot of questions for you though, because context
is important. But I mean, you had a lot of
support initially. Yeah, but there's also a few that came
through saying, Matt, you're silly. Don't give strangers rights.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, you're not supposed to give strangers rights. Yea, it
depends really, because this person was giveing the ride was
smaller than me, so I felt like if they got
out of a knife and god all stabby, I've been
able to restrain them with my left hand while I
was still driving.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yeah, the size of the person is important.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
I would have then given them a really poor review though.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
That is half to three o'clock. After two o'clock. Narrow
Escapes is after a couple feel very lucky to be
alive after a traumatic accident saw a car catapult through
their Roliston home in Canterbury in the early hours of
Saturday morning. It was an absolute miracle escaped. The husband
was pinned down by a doorframe, managed to get loose
and found his wife under the vehicle. Went all Wholk

(03:44):
superman on it, lifted the car up and got her out.

Speaker 6 (03:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
We want to talk about this yesterday, but our topics
were too popular and we never got round to it.
But we want to talk about this today. Those near
misses in your life and moments of heroicism.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yep, that is after two o'clock you have witnessed absolutely.
But right now a new Wellington cafe is hoping its
subscription coffee offer will be the key finding its feet
in a tough hospitality environment. Two months and this is
Jared Strong of Eva's Garage sees things are going pretty
well and Jared joins us on the line now, Jared,

(04:20):
good afternoon cider guys.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
How are we very good? How does it work? Jared?
Is it a card a name or do you know
your subscribers by face?

Speaker 7 (04:30):
Well, hopefully there's going to be too many to know
them by faith. Our breath of the team's very good
at learning and getting to know everyone. No, it's a
it's a digital token that we're issuing to the people
that sign on, and so yeah, they just come and
show their token and get their copy.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
How many people have signed on so far?

Speaker 7 (04:55):
We only launched on on Friday, so it was what
was only on our social media. Then we got a
few over the weekend, and then it's hit the news
today and our poor website is getting absolut Well.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Hopefully we can help with that a little bit more.

Speaker 7 (05:12):
So, Yeah, yeah, yeah, no anything help.

Speaker 8 (05:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
So it's seventy dollars a month for unlimited coffees. But
it can't be completely unlimited, right, What if a workplace
got one subscription and someone's coming in every day and
grabbing ten coffees and taking them back to work. You
must have some restrictions on it.

Speaker 9 (05:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (05:28):
No, So it's for an individual. So it's unlimited coffees
for that person. They can come and they can get
their their one coffee and take it away. They can
come back and forths as many times as they like
throughout the day. But you know it's for that one
person to consume and you know they have to person.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
They have to come in and out the door so
they can can they can they sit at the table
and just coffee. They have to leave and then re
enter it.

Speaker 7 (05:55):
The idea is that they leave and reenter. We've we've
sort of modeled the way that it works off our
off our regulars. We've had an amazing amount of support.
We've had customers that have come on our very first
day two months ago today actually and have come every
single day since. So we've sort of designed it around
them and how they consume their coffees and and and

(06:20):
consume you know, the services that we provide throughout our store.
So yes, it's sort of built around those people in
our community already.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yeah. And so at this stage, it sounds like you've
had a great response to this offer. Are you hoping
that's going to continue going forward and you're gonna make
some good money off this and get more people through
the door.

Speaker 7 (06:41):
Yeah, that's that's sort of the idea we we when
we opened, we had, like I say, we had these
regulars quite quickly, and and they were asking about you know,
coffee cards and things in the past that or that
it still exists around.

Speaker 6 (06:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (06:58):
I always end up with cards for Africa, and none
of them ever filled and they're all half halfway done,
so we didn't want to do something like that. We
looked around and thought about other options, and this is
sort of what we've what we've landed on. We've got
a couple of different tiers, so there's a fifteen dollar
a month one that does half priced coffees, and then

(07:19):
a thirty.

Speaker 9 (07:20):
Dollars a month one which.

Speaker 7 (07:21):
Does two dollar coffee, so there's a bit of a
range for people. But yeah, the idea is that it
will help you build that community, get people into our store,
get people that are on the subscription to you know,
bring friends with them who are who are going to
you know, just be there the once because they live
elsewhere or work elsewhere or whatever. And we're not just
a cafe either. We've got a florist, a gift store,

(07:43):
and a barber shop and Eva's garage too, so all
of our subscribers get they get ten percent off everything
else store wide. So it's just about building that whole
whole community, and the success will be in the success
of all of it, not not in the coffees itself
as such. So yeah, it's just about about building that
whole that whole community.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Really love it. We're talking to Jared Strong of Eva's
Garage because I was going to ask you that. So
in a way, it's kind of a lost leave, lost leader,
because it seems to me you've underpriced it. It seems
to me a coffee a day for a month would
be at least one hundred and fifty dollars.

Speaker 7 (08:16):
With yeah, yeah, and that's yeah, Like I say, we've
we've sort of built it off and priced it off
the habits of our alv our regulars and and certainly
we want to make sure that it's it's you know,
a cost benefit to them. Otherwise why would they do
it right? So there there isn't as much margin left

(08:37):
as they could do or there as there is on
a normal coffee. But we have tried to make sure
that it's not gonna go too far the other way,
and that's why the caveats are there of you know,
so you can't just sign up once and take your
ten coffees up to your workmates upstairs or anything like that.
But yeah, as I say, there's also the other things
within our business as well. So yeah, you know, people

(08:59):
people bring other people, people need to you know, buy
some flowers for an anniversary on their way home and
get their haircut, or you know, gifts and bits and
pieces as well. So yeah, it's about the whole thing
and how it all works together. And people love coffee,
so that's a good place to start.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Well, you shame people that take the purse within the rules.

Speaker 10 (09:17):
Yeah, yeah, Well you get to know them pretty good, right, Yeah,
just a little bit of a ray, be a little
a little bit more lenient on when you've got good
relationships with people.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Yeah, Jared, what's.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
The market like out there at the moment? You know,
you're in Wellington, but there's there's challenges across the whole
country in the hospital industry. Do you have to be
innovative to succeed these days?

Speaker 7 (09:41):
Yeah? I think so. I mean, we we're in quite
a unique spot down here in Wellington in the Hannahs
Lane Way. We have been running a hotel next door
for a couple of years and and that's sort of
a little bit easier to to breck sort of out
into the market. With the likes of you know, online
travel agencies and things like that, people can find you

(10:02):
a lot easier. We get some good foot traffic. But
you know, thinking out the box and trying to do
things a little bit differently certainly helps. I mean, you
don't get the opportunity to talk to you guys about
coffee if you're just doing what everyone else is doing, right,
And that's the that's the thing. It is tough out there.

(10:24):
Prices are going up for you know, everything.

Speaker 6 (10:26):
That we do.

Speaker 7 (10:28):
But at the end of the day, it's all about
people and people are you know, the center of our business.
So if we can help, then they help us. And
that's sort of yeah, how we've tried to model the
whole whole thing.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Oh good on you, Jared. And this chat is only
going to cost you two subscriptions.

Speaker 9 (10:45):
One.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
For Tiler and you can take the pace with us.
We don't mind.

Speaker 7 (10:51):
That's all right, I'm sure you guys. You're based in Auckland,
so struggle.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
To great stuff. Jared, Hey, thanks for having a chat
with us and all the best. Will check in with
you in a couple of months time.

Speaker 7 (11:04):
Awesome, thanks guys, appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
That is Jared Strong from Eva's Garage and by all accounts,
in the early day stages two months in working really well.
The subscription service getting people through the door.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah, and he's got a lot of other stuff going
on there, doesn't it. It's not just getting someone in
to get a coffee and get a sky on, you
get your haircut. It can be done in there. You
can buy some flowers. Getting people through the door does
sound like a sort of an innovative approach, although text
immediately coming through, as you always get, it's innovative, not innovative.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
How did you say innovative?

Speaker 2 (11:37):
I always say innovative.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yeah, that rolls off the tongue. That sounds like good
use of the English language, Tyler.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
I always look for opportunities to say innovative.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
It does.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
If I have to say innovative, yeah, innovative, I'm not
going to be playing.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Innovative is a lovely word to say.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, I'll start saying clever.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
Oh, eight, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. Is this what is needed to get more
people back to hospow and retail brick and mortar, Because
we know that the mules are struggling, We know that
the high streets are struggling, and we no HOSPO is struggling.
So love to hear from you. If you're around hospital
and retail. Are you looking to do something similar like
a subscription service or something else a bit more innovative

(12:19):
to try and get more foot traffic. Love to hear
from you. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the
number to call. Nine two ninety two is the text number.
It is seventeen past one.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between. Matt and Tyler Afternoons with the Volvo
XC ninety, attention to detail and a commitment to comfort
news talks.

Speaker 11 (12:42):
There'd be.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Good afternoon, and we're talking about hospitality in New Zealand.
What does hospitality a need to do to get your
business again? They are absolutely struggling and have been for
the last couple of years. A new Wellington cafe is
hoping to turn that around with a subscription coffee office
seventy dollars a month, almost all you can drink coffee.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
It's a clever plan that they're running here, because of
course it gets people into their other businesses in there.
You know, you might go and buy ski on, you know,
you might get flowers, you might get a haircut, because
they've got a whole lot of that stuff in Eva's Garrett.
But what else are you doing if you're running a
cafe or a bar, what can you do to get
people in hard times? What are the great ideas out

(13:28):
there that you could share? And you know, of course
you can naturally get a sneaky plug in for your
business as well as you do.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
It absolutely if you're smart. If you're smart, opportunity smart.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Make up some kind of program that you're doing and ring.
And I think one of the things that cafe bars
in winter, right, there's a lot of bars that are
designed for summer, yes, so you also need to have
it designed for winter. So if you're running a bar,
and there's one I'm particularly thinking about that I only

(13:56):
go to summer in my area because it doesn't have
the cozy winter vibe. So you need both. It needs
to be like a convertible situation for it to work
all year round. So it's got to have the fireplace. Yeah,
absolute lutally got to have a fireplace in your bar.
In New Zealand, Yeah, you don't fire it up in
the summer and you open out and everyone's el fresco
and garden barring in the summer. But if you don't

(14:18):
have a fireplace for the winter, then it's just even
if it's warm enough in the bar because you're using
you know, electrically heating the place. Yea, the vibe of
a fire will get people in to have a drink.
This is my belief. Am I wrong? One hundred and
eighteen eighty nine two? Is that too simplistic? Is it
light a fire and people will come? Does it work

(14:39):
like that?

Speaker 3 (14:40):
I'd agree with you. If it's pouring down with rain
and I walk past the bar with maybe a group
of friends or maybe by myself, I'll po poke my
hidden and if it doesn't have a fire roaring, I'll
probably just carry on and find another bar that does
have a fire roaring. But it's the same with a
garden bar right in summer and it's stinking hot, and
you come across a bar and there's no garden bar,
you just keep walking.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Down you yeah, oh, yeah, absolutely, yeah, you know cook
of course, you know, I'm I am pathologically elfrisco. In
the summer, I just don't want to be inside in
the summer, but equally in the winter, I want to
be by the fire. I've been in food hospital space for
over twenty years. Is Rebecca here in New Zealand and overseas.
I love what these young guys in Wellington are doing,

(15:20):
but they're playing a very dangerous game. Unfortunately, there's no
such thing as a lost leader in a small country
like New Zealand, and if they're not careful, they'll be
incredibly busy but wind up exhausted in a tight financial
position and if their owner operators possibly not paying themselves.
If they're listening, I'd highly encourage them to focus on
a core offering with margins that are realistic and allow

(15:42):
them to make a profit. Food imperishable products like flowers
have variable costs in seasonal fluctuation, fluctuations where it can
tank the bank account and you don't have margins built
in to ride the rocky times. Just a word from
the experience. Yeah, I think a lot of people get
into the cafe industry and they have a sort of
romantic idea of what it's going to be like. You

(16:04):
have regulars coming in your poor coffees, but the financial
levers are on it tough by the time. You know,
just staff alone, staffing a cafe so you can serve
the people in the busy times, and so you can
so you can clear the tables, all those kind of
things that make the cafe work and want people to

(16:27):
come back. That is just a huge, invariable cost, massive
and rent. If you're going to be in Wellington, you
know Central Auckland, the rent is huge. And you know,
people complain about the cost of buying a coffee or
buying a breakfast or buying lunch whatever, but it's actually
really really hard to eke out a profit out of

(16:49):
that business.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
Yeah, but that's why I like the idea of the
seventy dollars subscription. I don't think i'd be one of
the customers that would get my money's worth, but that
doesn't matter to me. If I was a regular to
Eva's garage or indeed my own cafe where I go
down maybe twice three times a week to go get
a coffee in a semi, I would pay that just
to help that business because I think it's important to

(17:10):
have that in the community, and I think it's important
to have a cafe that I enjoy going to, I
enjoy talking to the owners. That's an experience that I relish,
and once you lose that then that's a huge damage,
not just to the community, but you can see.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Maybe you're a beautiful soul that wants to help out
businesses because you just feel the need to share your
huge d'db salary around the city. But can a business
thrive on a charity model where the people buy the
subscription so because they just want to keep that cafe
that they love in business? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Well, love to hear your thoughts. O eight one hundred
and eighty ten eighty. There's a heckup a lot of
texts coming through. We'll get to some of those very shortly.
Nine two nine two is the text number if you
want to flick us a message. We've got a play
some messages. It is twenty five past one.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
This Texas is their first problem is setting up their
cafe and Wellington, Wellington sucks. Oh thanks for that.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Some hard times here right, thank you. It's passionate twenty
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Speaker 2 (19:50):
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Speaker 3 (19:53):
Taylor, we are talking about what cafes and hospitality broadly
need to do to get people back through the door.
A new Wellington cafe is hoping to get people through
the door with a subscription coffee office seventy dollars a
month for almost all you can drink coffee. Is that
what needs to happen to try and turn the hospitality
around in New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah, well, it's interesting because these innovations that people are suggesting.
But this texture of nine two nine two says, I
want to sport the new cafe near me, but each
time I go they're too slow. I just want a
muffin sometimes to take away, but instead of grabbing it
from the cabinet, bagging it and taking the money, quick transaction.
They go to the till then I think they are
writing a novel, tapping away. Then they repeat, They walk

(20:33):
back to the cabinet, someone else comes along to serve
you in the meantime, then write another novel and finally
take your money. Same thing happens to me in other
places as well. So yeah, I mean that's the thing.
You can have an incredibly clever idea to get people
in the door, but then you have to get the
basics right so people have a pleasant experience every time

(20:56):
they come in.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
Yeah. I mean when it comes to your local cafe,
do you like that they know your name, that they
know your order? When you walk through the door, they say, getomett,
how's your day going Americano? Is that important?

Speaker 2 (21:07):
They do not know my name? It we got we
go and get a coffee today every day together, Tyler,
don't we Before the show?

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Oh yeah, they always they always say what's your name?

Speaker 2 (21:15):
What's what's your name?

Speaker 3 (21:17):
Tyler? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (21:19):
I see, and Tyler goes, don't you know who I am?
Tyler Adams from Matt and Tyler. Afternoons, you normally throw
a big strapped people not recognized it'sizing a.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
Very good coffee. Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten
eighty is the number to go. Nine two nine two
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Now back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
Thank you very much. Ray Lanov asked the question what
do hospitality businesses need to do to get people back
through the doors On the back of a Wellington cafe
offering a subscription coffee offer seventy bucks a month and
that gets you almost all you can drink when it
comes to coffee.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Andrew, you work in the hospital space, what's your thoughts
on this?

Speaker 15 (23:16):
Yeah, how's it going?

Speaker 8 (23:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (23:18):
Yeah, not a bar owner, but coming I guess from
a bar owner's perspective because we do work in that space.
It's really about utilizing the TV screens we see far
too often. And this is possibly from a bar up
point of view rather than a cafe. Typically you can
see screens and cafes, but utilizing those TV screens. We

(23:39):
work in the space and you're wandering and there's seven
TVs cranking Spice for seven replay of the basketball from
two days ago. So yeah, we see that far too often.
And it's one of those scenarios where you know that
they could they could better be used in that space,
and you know, why not leverage a delicious steak out
the back and get that shift smiling. So it's really

(24:01):
from an advertising point of view, getting the right things
on your screens and so your patrons actually see the
right things.

Speaker 9 (24:07):
And one of one of the interesting.

Speaker 15 (24:08):
Things as that females, I think there's some stat only
about forty or thirty percent of them actually enjoy watching
any sort of sport on a screen. So if you
look at that and you say, well, that's half my market,
possibly not even you know, put in their eyes once
on the TV screen, and then that's not a good
business model. So yeah, that's the way we look at it.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
It's interesting when a bar opens, there has to be
that decision has to be made. I had a friend
that was opening a bar in Ponsonby and they had
a big chat about whether they were going to have
screens in there, and you know, be opened to be
a sports bar, and they decided they didn't want to
be that bar they wanted to be a cocktail bar,
so they've got absolutely no screens in there and they've
done really well. What is the message that you seen

(24:51):
if you do have screens, irrespective of what's on them.

Speaker 9 (24:55):
Yeah, exactly right.

Speaker 15 (24:56):
So some bars definitely go well without screens and that's
just the way they operate. But if they do have screens, yes,
of course, sport is a huge part of it, and
people will go to the bar for sport, but sports
only on for a certain amount of time, so in
between halftime, before after, assuming it's not an important you know,
post match speech or anything like that, and then start

(25:17):
leveraging your own advertising and really trying to get those
get those cocktails through, get those steaks out the line,
those upcoming events.

Speaker 9 (25:24):
All that sort of thing.

Speaker 15 (25:24):
Because people usually especially especially females just because I mentioned them,
because they typically don't like sport as much.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
So put some wave it. So Andrew like if for
certain people, if the sport's on, even if they're not
watching it, they just find the fact that it's on
even low as their enjoyment of their drinks.

Speaker 15 (25:44):
Basically, yes, exactly, yeah, And if the sport's going bad,
then no good they're not going to drink as much.

Speaker 6 (25:50):
Maybe they will.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
Sorry, I was just going to say, it's a great
point that you've kind of got to pick what your
theme of the bar is going to be.

Speaker 9 (25:57):
Right.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
If you're going to be a sports bar, you have
to go when one hundred percent to be a sports bar.
If you're going to be a family bar slash restaurant
that serves food, then you should probably focus on that
because me as as a punter, if I want to
go watch the Warriors or go to a sports bar,
but if I want to have a nice sit down
with family, then I won't go to a sports bar.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Yeah, if you get this this smile. Like my favorite
bar in Auckland that I go to a lot that's
very near my house.

Speaker 11 (26:19):
They have a.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Huge screen that rolls down when it's when sports on right,
and that rolls back up so and that screen is
like movie screen size, and so they're kind of running
a convertible situation there, but generally running a restaurant slash
bar the rest of the time.

Speaker 15 (26:34):
The best setups are where there's seven screens or eight
screens or even more, and they've got if there is
a big game on, they've got seventy percent of them
running running sport, and then the other twenty percent of
screens are actually used to advertise and push your product
because there's so many bar owners just struggling, and the
chef's out back are saying, why don't we sell and
blah blah blah. They're relying on their bar staff to

(26:56):
try get these big their big staple dishes over line,
why don't you lose your expensive TV screens?

Speaker 16 (27:02):
Someone?

Speaker 2 (27:02):
If someone flashes up a picture of a steak, I'm
going to order it almost immediately, need your coaction.

Speaker 15 (27:08):
Oh a big steaming medium red bag and can you
get the graphics of the steam puffing around it?

Speaker 9 (27:13):
Idea but a gravey other type or man exactly?

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. There used to be a thing actually,
and it seems to have gone. And I wonder why this is.
But I was seeing it in bars overseas. Actually I'm
not sure if it really happened back here, but where
they were playing movies with the subtitles on, so you
could steer it and watch a movie and have the subtitles.
And I thought that was a really for me, it
was like a really I don't want to go to

(27:37):
a movie to to a bar to watch a movie
with the subtitles.

Speaker 15 (27:40):
Yeah, that's odd, especially when you're gonna yeah exactly.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
Well, I was just going to say, because I thought
you're going to say, that's a great idea, because you
love movies. But that would be so distracted. If I'm
sitting there having a steak dinner and pulp fiction is
up on the on the screens, I'll be sitting there
watching and not talking to anybody who's around.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
The Well, you're generally looking at your mates or your partner,
and they're on their phone anyway, might as well look
over their shoulder at a movie Gone with the Wind
with subtitles. Hey, thank you so much. If you call Andrew,
thanks for your in sight.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
A couple of texts, guys, Soushell's Cafe and oats here
Potty do it is the best. Soushelle remembers everyone's name
and their order. Fantastic experience, Go Sushill.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
So is that a big get people back kind of thing?
You know? Everyone wants to go where everybody inn. Once again,
you come in. I'm trying to sing and you come
on with the wrong harmony.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
There I have to run out otherwise you'll keep singing.
Oh eight, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
to cool if you were a cafe owner or a
hosbow owner, a hospital worker. Love to hear from you.
How are you doing now with things starting to turn around?
And what? There's a good text there, Tyler. You'm up
a who puts gravy on their steak. Yeah, I realize
as soon as I said that it's controversial. Controversial gravy

(28:56):
on the steak.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Oh, you see it a bit to put in the gravy.
I don't mind a bit of gravy on mistake. Yeah,
looks good on screen, you know, with some options. Yeah,
I've seen that before.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Just it looks I'm more.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Likely to go for the mushroom saucer at Red Wines.
You Yeah, probably, I'll go for a Redwine's.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
You nice peppercorn, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Peppercorn garlic butter, but garlic butter all day. It's hard
to go past the gallic butter. Karen says is a
long time bar owner. The most important agreement is great entertainment,
just like the New Zealand Kiss Experience, who are playing
at Paisley Stage in Napier next Saturday, twenty ninth of
March tickets on sale now. I don't own the bar,
just trying to plug my band. Very good, well played

(29:33):
Paisley stage, Yeah, Paisley Stage.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
The New Zealand Kiss Experience Saturday the.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Time, I see like New Zealand Kiss Experience like a
Kiss tribute band.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
I thought it was like some kind of passion thing
by the New Zealand Kiss Experience entertainment.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
I see that as well.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
You go down for a pash? Yeah, yeah, no I
read that wrong.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
Yeah, very good. If you want to get a plug
in for your cafe or bar, you're more than welcome
to nine two nine two is the text number. It
is eighteen to two.

Speaker 5 (30:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
What a cafes and bars have to do to get
you in the door. One hundred and eighty ten.

Speaker 11 (30:04):
Eighty Flatty Taylor Adams from.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Taking your calls on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
Matt and Tyler Afternoon with the Volvo XC ninety tick
in every box, A seamless experience awaits news talks.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
They'd be news talks, it'd be good afternoon. And we've
asked the question, if you're in hospital, what are you
doing to try and get people back through the doors.
We all know they've struggled with it over the last
couple of years. Terry, how are you this afternoon?

Speaker 17 (30:33):
Well, just finish my customer square? Yeah, I'm good to
love it?

Speaker 5 (30:36):
Right?

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Where did you get the customers? Where from?

Speaker 18 (30:40):
Denny Bit?

Speaker 6 (30:41):
Nexture?

Speaker 17 (30:41):
I'm just driving up to Hawk's Bay and I thought
I'd calling a bakery and grave with a custom square.
I just needed that boost, you know.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Yeah, yeah, I love a custom square. So you're you're
in hospital, are you, Terry?

Speaker 17 (30:52):
Yeah, I'm I'm gonna involved with a charter club and
why can I why can I hear? Why can I charge?

Speaker 5 (30:57):
Club?

Speaker 17 (30:57):
Then a cafity coast there and we've actually got a
social events committee, so we were talking last week about
things that we could do because Nowaday's one of the
big I mean, I'm the hospital background. That's how I
got involved with anyway, a chef and cafes and stuff.
But with the charter club, it's a bit different. It's
about added value, is what what I'm trying to push
at the moment. So working on a rugby game these days,
you know everyone's doing it, so what can you do?

Speaker 5 (31:19):
You know?

Speaker 17 (31:19):
So what we're looking at is with our Hurricanes games,
doing things like when we play Canterbury, we'll do lamb rolls,
you know, and give them free you know, so this
is a small role with a nice but lamb and
maybe for Myna Pacific and we'll do a pork or
watercress roll.

Speaker 8 (31:35):
Maybe five.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Would you do a cheese roll for the Highlanders?

Speaker 17 (31:40):
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking of, something of that, you know,
and we'll do it. We'll do beef, you know, a
bit of brisket maybe when they're playing White And we're
looking at that is how we can keep a get
people there, but also get the word out and that
hey you come down need you can watch rugby and
he gets some up in need as well. It's good
hoists responsibility.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (31:58):
But the other thing we're doing is looking at utilizing downtime.
So you know, obviously being a club, you're open sort
of eleven to eleven, So what can we do during
the day to entice people and the indoor bowls or
we've got things like.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
What do you mean, like you've got indoor bowling wrink
or you're doing in indoor lawn bowls.

Speaker 17 (32:21):
Yeah, or indoor bowls so you've got a big felt
cloth and people can come along and have a role
in the outdoor one because you got to remember it.
But you got The big thing is with charter clubs.
A lot of people that we're struggling a bit, and
I know all charter clubs are because it's pretty much
predominantly people said it's an old people's sort of thing.

Speaker 18 (32:41):
So it's attracting young people.

Speaker 17 (32:42):
What have we got that's going to attract them? Might
be games tables now for the kids to play on,
you know, things like that.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
How do you get the word out these things you're doing, Terry,
how do you how do you get the word out
two people? Is it in bar advertising or are you
you know, going out and about You're doing social media?

Speaker 17 (33:00):
Yeah, so's it's a mix across the border. You say,
doing your social media, you're doing in house, you're doing
on the local community pages a lot of it. You
can do word of mouth, getting people to talk.

Speaker 7 (33:10):
You know.

Speaker 17 (33:10):
The big thing is getting and making a.

Speaker 14 (33:11):
Bit of noise.

Speaker 17 (33:12):
It's been the people talking about you and irrespective whatever,
getting talking about in the club so that people know
where they are and things like, you know, start up
a youth academy for our pool. We do aightful or
pool down there and getting a youth academy and then
we run a tournament with their parents and stuffing around
so that you're getting a good people.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
It sounds like you come up with a lot of
good ideas. Does a quiz night still work Terry?

Speaker 17 (33:35):
Yeah, we still do a quiz but again it's there's
a lot of.

Speaker 8 (33:39):
What what else?

Speaker 17 (33:40):
There's a lot of other people doing quiz? What makes
you a quiz night? Why should I go to your one?
And that's the key that you've got to learn.

Speaker 18 (33:46):
You know, you got to do those sort of things.

Speaker 17 (33:47):
Well, you know why what can we do to make
people better? You know, obviously been a charter club. We've
got cheaper drinks. Can we put on a mini van
for the people so we can pick them up and
drop them off? Those sort of things, all those little
added values.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
What about a meat raffle?

Speaker 17 (34:05):
Tuesday, Friday and Saturdays we do meat meat raffles and
care so let's run by the edge junks within the club.
So when we don't air junk, you've got Snoogat, Paul Goldies,
all the little groups, so you support those groups as
well putting people.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
In it's an amazing idea of yours, Titler, the meat raffle.
How did you come up with that?

Speaker 3 (34:23):
It's hard to find a good meat raffle these days
of ideas.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
The problem with the meat raffle. I've won a few
of my time, and if you win them early in
the evening, then you're just walking around with a meat
pack down the back of your pants all night. Wake
up in the morning you're like, can I still throw
this up? Answer?

Speaker 11 (34:39):
Is you?

Speaker 6 (34:40):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (34:40):
One hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call Peter?
How are you mate?

Speaker 19 (34:46):
Can I I'll go, I'll go now, yeah, yeah, just
calling from junlan, Ah, my hometown.

Speaker 9 (34:52):
Love it, yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 19 (34:54):
So it's just, you know, one of my frustrations as
you go into a bar and a cold bloody to
need a knife and ask for something like a mulled
wine and all the conservas just a beer or a wine.
So I thought, you know, some like a nice hot
mould wine would be almost a compulsory in the city.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
I agree one hundred percent. I find it very hard
to go past a mulled wine when you know, in
a cold, cold winter's night down in the South Island,
if there's a mold wine going I'm in there, fantastic.

Speaker 19 (35:25):
Yeah, yeah, and it doesn't have to be the bads
cafes as well, why not? Why not providing them? You
know they considered the alcohol, but half the time mulled wines,
you know, they boil them so much that they don't
have much alcohol.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Even a hot toddy, you know, if we're advertising a
hot toddy, i'd go, yeah, that sounds like a bit
of me.

Speaker 19 (35:45):
Oh, it's absolutely, absolutely, you.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Know, this is part of my ignorance. What's a hot toddy?

Speaker 3 (35:50):
I well, I'm pretty sure it's got whiskey in it, Peter.
You know what a hot toddy is when you it's
it's like it's warm whiskey.

Speaker 19 (35:58):
Yeah, whiskey was quite often with lemon juice in it
and a bit of ginger.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Oh yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 19 (36:04):
You can't non alcoholic ones as well, just you know,
just lemon and honey.

Speaker 18 (36:09):
That's sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Yeah, Produce of Island. It's got some what this one's saying,
you put some cough syrup in it.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
In the middle of the winter if you feel in
a bit spicy.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
You can turn it into medicine. Peter. All right, thank you,
thank you, very much and quadrial days basically turn it
into an upper.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
Yeah, there's quite a few shout outs for good hospo
places coming through. Guys. It be a tap room and
on a hunger, no screens, just amazing atmosphere and decour
great craft beer as well.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
Yeah, there we go. This This is a scientific analysis
here from Simon of what he needs from a cafe.
All right, okay, requirements forty good coffee, right, And I
think this is a huge one because there's a lot
of cafes and being New Zealanders, we never tell anyone
if we're not happy with the product. We just don't
go back. And so you go into a cafe, you
get terrible coffee, it's burnt or whatever, then no matter

(37:04):
what they do, people will stop coming. I don't care
if it's whatever it is, You're not gonna get someone
of the sign for a subscription for bad coffee. So
getting a good barrista and getting it right, that's really important, Simon.
Twenty five percent service, ten percent vibe of the venue,
and twenty five percent ease of access parking. Yeah, that's big,
that's a huge one. I think a lot of businesses

(37:26):
are stymied by the fact that they can't them in.
The parking so expensive. You know, you've got an establishment
in a high traffic area, then it's very expensive to
also have the parking for people to pull in. And
now every single park is becoming a legal across our
country and being replaced by bus lanes and bike lanes.
So it's very very hard to park in front of cafes.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
Now it's a spontaneous poppet, isn't it for a cafe?
I see a park outside of a nice cafe. Looks good,
it's got a good outdoor, outdoor bar area and there's
a park there. Yeah, that sounds on me.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
How often are you trying to drop someone off at
a at a cafe or a bar and you just
cannot park. You cannot stop anywhere near the establishment. There's
just a I mean, especially in Auckland at the moment this,
you just can't get anywhere near most establishments to park
the car from. If it's not roadworks, the city, rail lankets,
bicycle lanes and how they're changing everything, it's really very

(38:20):
very hard to stop someone off, drop someone.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
Off off and off canceled if it's too much of
a hansle to find a car park and we're meant
to be going to a cafe for some food. You
just throw a strop and a star fucker this. Maybe
we're going home. I can't be bothered.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Bars need live music entertainments. Is this texture on nine
to nine two? Yeah, if it's good. But sometimes if
you're sitting down to have a steak and you're getting
your ear drums blowing out the back by I don't know.
I'm a fan of metal, but at the wrong time
of the day, you don't want your metallica covers band
smashing your ear drums.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
Yeah, you got to pick the vibe carefully right. Oh
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Will wrap this up very shortly. It is seven to.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Two Mattie Taylor Adams taking your calls on Oh, eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty Matten Taylor Afternoons with the
Volvo xc N eighty. Tick every box a seamless experience
of weeds used dogs in me.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Four to two. We'll wrap this one up and some
great ticks have come through On nine two niney two.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Get free starters of book, main and dessert. All right here, guys.
One there's a pub on the West coast that projects
a fire onto a screen, very attractive as you walk
past on a rainy, cold day, and the heat pumps
keep the space proper warm. Yeah, that's the thing. You
don't actually need a fire. They've done studies. We get
the same buzz from looking at a screen playing a
fake fire as we do from an actual fire.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
The same.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Yeah, pretty much the same, pretty much the same. We're
evolved to steer into the flickering lights. That's half of
what television is is just our caveman mind steering into
flickering lights and being feeling safe from the saber tooths.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
Very good, Really enjoyed that chet, Thank you very much,
and we might get through to another few of the
shout outs a good hospoat as well as the afternoon progresses.
But after two o'clock there's a situation you found yourself in.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Yeah, I've got a scenario where I grabbed a stranger
and well, I allowed a stranger into my car yesterday,
Should I or shouldn't I?

Speaker 18 (40:08):
Add?

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Yep, this is going to be good. I wait one
hundred and eighty ten eighty if you want to get
in early. But Matt will tell you more after the news,
sport and weather, which is coming up. Great to have
your company as always. You're listening to Matt and Tyler.

Speaker 11 (40:24):
Talking with you all afternoon.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons with the Volvo
XC ninety news Talk.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
They'd be well, good afternoon. Do you welcome back into
the show? Seven past too. Great to have your company
as always. Now a situation you've found yourself and Matt.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Heath, Yeah, that's right. I w one hundred and eighteen
eighty nine two nine two. When should you let a
stranger into your car? This was the question I was
asked myself yesterday. So I'll tell you.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
The story mate the picture.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
It's raining, I'm dropping my son off at an hour
long appointment. I'm sitting in the car, get my laptop out,
and I think, you know, I can't can't do anything else.
I'll sit here and do some work and next thing,
next thing you know, my son's knocking on the door
and it's been accosted on the street by someone who's
asked him, the fifteen year old, to order them an
uber right, because they're lost and their phone's flat and

(41:17):
they don't know how to get across town. And so
the door opens, and so now I've got my son going,
oh God, what's going on here? I'm being hassled in
the rain? Dad, Dad. This person wants me to order
them an Uber, and I'm like, get out of your son,
You're not ordering ordering strangers ubers of the authors, And
so that the person goes, can can I get anod uber?

(41:38):
Can you order me an uber? I need to get
to the university. I need to get to the Grafton
campus of the university in Auckland, which is about probably
four k from where I am. And I say, and
they say, I don't know where I am. I don't
know what I can do. I don't know where to go.
I'm lost and new to this country, right, so lost

(42:01):
and alone and phone's gone dead, which is sort of
Dovedale's into that conversation we had yesterday. Wasn't it about?
You know, if you go everything digital digital car, I
was suggesting, then you're completely lost when your phone goes down.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
Yep, allegedly.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Anyway, so I go, I'm not going to order you
an uber heartless. Well, they might soil the uber, you know,
and then what I do? I'm not just tracking it
and then something there's a turn and a fifty dollar fine.
Didn't look like the type person would soil an uber,
but you know what I mean, like that can't just
seeing them across it.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
Was a possiblity.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Yeah, yeah, and you know, and they're like, I'll pay
you back somehow. I don't know how they thought that.
And so they're standing there, it's raining everywhere. I can
see my son wanting to go into his appointment. He's
a little bit worried about strange danger. So I just say,
get in, I'll drive you. So the person jumps in
the car, tells me a few stories that I don't
really understand if we're driving across town, and then I

(42:51):
dropped them off the place. Interestingly, I drive across town
and they say thank you. But then I get quite
close to the place and they said, can do you
do it? Can you actually take me in? And asked
if I could actually take them right into the front
door of it.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
Good on them, My head off to them. They've got
a free ride. And then they're really saying, can you
just drive me ride up to Well.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
It was one of those classic Awkland situations and christ
Guchen everywhere now where you can't park Wellington, you can't
ever there's no way to stop and let anyone out, yep,
so it's impossible. So anyway, I let them out and
they go on their way.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
So I've got a couple of questions for you. Yeah,
and oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty do you
think Matt did the right thing by actually giving the
stranger a ride to the university? So number one question?
Was she in the back while you're at the front,
were you like a chauffeurs situation going on? Or did
she come in the passenger seat?

Speaker 11 (43:39):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (43:39):
Yeah, And inside that question you've said she, which could
make quite a bit.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
Of difference, really, right, Okay, so it does a female
yeah right, okay.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Yeah, No, I didn't say get in the back, I
see get in the front. Yeah, it was in a
full chauffeur situation.

Speaker 4 (43:53):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
Yeah, And how old roughly are we talking here?

Speaker 2 (43:57):
Student? Student age students? So you know, in the rain, bedraggled,
take them there reasonably happy, didn't charge them any money.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
Clearly she was not terrified, but worried about a situation.
She I mean four k that's a big hike, And
there was no guarantee that she was going to go
in the right direction anyway. By the sound of it.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
No, she didn't know where she was. She was in a
totally ridiculous place to be trying to get to the graft,
and she was lost. But the reason why I asked
this question on our wee one hundred and eighty ten
eighty ninety two ninety two is because my son says
to me, because he's been he's been taught a certain
way over and over again, don't let a stranger, you know,
stranger danger. So he just said when he ended up

(44:39):
ringing his brother and panic going, dad's got a stranger
in the car. I don't want to do. He's concerned
because and when I come back and pick him up
and goes, you don't let a stranger in your car, Dad,
what are you doing? He couldn't believe I did it.
And yet and I say as this Texas says, love

(45:00):
your show, guys, strangers and cars. Remember in the eighties
when we saw hitchhikers all over the country. We don't
see them anymore, do we. Yeah, yeah, I mean it
used to be thing. It used to be a very
common thing that you'd pick up a stranger and take
them in your car and take them somewhere else.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
I think you did the right thing. And I get
what your son would say, that stranger danger and you
just don't. You don't let strangers into your car anymore.
But I think you did the right thing there. But
talking about hitchhikers, I don't think I've ever picked up
a hitchhiker. You would be someone that would have picked
up hitchhikers in your time.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Yeah, you I've done. I've done. You know, I've hitch
hitchhiked a lot is to hitchhike to christitch a lot
from Dunedin, and I've picked up hitchhikers. Yeah, yeah, I
mean you sort of profile them before that they get
in if they're bigger than you, Yeah, and you feel
like they could like.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
Kill you and there's no better people don't Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Did Matt do the
right thing by giving the stranger a ride? And when
it comes to hitchhikers or people needing a ride, is
that something we still do in this country? Love to
hear from you. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
is the number to call? Nine two nine two is
the text number. Plenty of great texts coming through A
nine to nine two. It is twelve past two oh.

(46:13):
One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
Car Wow your new home of afternoon Talk Matt and
Taylor Afternoon with the Volvo XC ninety turn every journey
into something special.

Speaker 11 (46:25):
Call eight hundred eighty news Talk said, be.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
Good afternoon. It is a quarter part two two. There's
some great texts coming through.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Here you go. You're a good man, Maddie. Thank you.
We're the same age. And it's exactly what I would
do as well. It's a shame we have become so
suspicious of strangers and lending a hand in someone's time
of need. Keep up the good work that's from being
good on you, Ben.

Speaker 20 (46:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
Nice, And just to set the scene again, good Samaritan. Yeah,
I think you did the right thing. But you found
yourself in a situation where there was a student, female
student in need of getting to the university. She was lost,
that was pouring down with rain, and out of the
goodness of your heart, eventually you gave her a ride.
Was that the right thing to do to and should
we ever give a ride to strangers? But there was

(47:12):
a survey out today and it talked about the friendliest
countries for expats to move to and the worst ones
to live.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
In expats or expats expats?

Speaker 3 (47:22):
Oh, thank you? What did I say?

Speaker 2 (47:23):
Ex bats?

Speaker 9 (47:24):
Well?

Speaker 3 (47:24):
Yeah, expats?

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Well, I guess expats are often vampires. That's right, They're
a bat and then they're a vampire. Anyway.

Speaker 18 (47:29):
Sorry.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
The reason the reason I raised thank you, Thank you, Maddie. Now,
the reason I raise this is New Zealand is often tilted.
I think we say this about us. Out's right. We
think we're pretty friendly as a nation. We're pretty friendly
to tourists and expats and expats. But turns out we're
not quite as friendly as we think we are, according
to the survey. So we have gone up sixteen spots.

(47:51):
That's a good thing. But we are the twenty first
friendliest country to visit and to make a home according
to the survey.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
Yeah, if you look at this here, so two out
of five said that New Zealanders were friendly, which compares
to Costa Rica where at nine and ten. So ninety
percent of people surveys thought that, you know, expats and
Costa Rica thought that the locals were friendly, and only

(48:19):
any forty percent of New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
That's not a good look for us if we think
we are friendly. And going back to you picking up
this particular stranger and doing a good deed, that is
something that I would hazard a guess we don't do
as much anymore.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Yeah, Tina, your thoughts on pick picking up strangers and
how friendly New Zealanders are.

Speaker 20 (48:42):
I just like I relate to your story because it's
said idea of being put on the spot as well,
like having a choice. And I was driving along a
very busy road here in Todeng and I saw a
couple walking on the side of the road with a baby,
and I drive straight past them because they just did
a lot like good character kind of people. And but

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my concience got the bit of me, and I spun
around and I thought, look, I'll go try and pick
them up and take them. But I didn't have a
baby seat, you know, the baby was in a prim
and anyway, I pulled up and I decided, look, where
are you guys going? Do you need a hand to
get somewhere? And after talking to him, I thought, oh
my gosh, I feel like I'm going to be in
trouble with this couple just something about them just you know,

(49:25):
kind of bad egg and regretted pulling over. And then
as I was, you know, trying to help and assist
in thinking how do I get out of this or
do I try, a policeman pulled over. So it looks
like I wasn't the only one who was worried about
this couple. And so between me and the policeman, we
managed to get this couple to this other destination. But

(49:46):
as we were driving, she keep changing the destination right,
and then she started asking me about my personal life
and where I live, and I was like, oh my gosh.
I really felt like I was so happy that the
police was behind me. Put it that way, because if
I'd put this couple in my car, I just feel
like there was they were up for something, But I
don't think I'll ever do it out of my tree.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
It's interesting you should say that, Tina, because we've got
a text come through here from Tammy and says, hey, guys,
my husband picked up a man whose car ran out
of petrol. He took him to our work, shared feed him,
and brought him petrol. One month later, the same man
returned and stole two e bikes with twelve thousand dollars
photos from the airport security. If you pick someone up,
don't take them to your home or work, Tammy. So

(50:29):
I think, Tina, you do the right thing. Not saying
where you live. That's sharing too much. You're doing a
you know, you're doing a nice favor. But you have
to keep some sort of you know, going to keep
something secret. Got to protect yourself a little bit.

Speaker 20 (50:43):
I was just really I was really happy that this
because other people must have teached to say this was
family walking along the highway. And the policeman pulled up
and I decided I was just trying to help. And
he says, oh yeah, so between the two of us.
But I was so bloody greatfull he was there.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Yeah, yeah, I mean walking along the highway travel. Yeah,
walking at a highway like that as well. It's a
red flag. Thank you so much for you call, Tina.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
Yeah, great story. Oh one hundred and eight ten eighty.
Do you pick up strangers or hitchhike? Because it is
something that a lot of us used to do in
New Zealand not that long ago. But I think we've
changed our way a little bit. And when it came
to Matt's situation. Was he in the right to give
that student to ride to university? Nine to two niney
two is the text number.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Matt, How would you feel if you hadn't picked up
the girl and it was in the news that something
had happened to her. Yeah, that's kind of what I
was thinking. I was kind of thinking, if this person's
lost in this in Auckland, they don't know where they are,
their phones down, and they're the kind of person that's
willing to just knock on the door of a car
and get in with a stranger. I mean, from her perspective,

(51:46):
that's pretty bold and risky. Right, Yeah, so you know,
or but maybe did I teach her the wrong lesson?
Maybe did I teach you that in New Zealand that
you can just jump into cars with people? Because I'm nice,
but not everyone is.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
Yeah, exactly. Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty
is the number to call twenty past two.

Speaker 11 (52:08):
Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
Call oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty on Youth
Talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
Good afternoon, twenty two past two, and we're asking the question,
should you ever give a ride to strangers? Matt found
himself in a situation where he did, and according to
the text machine, I think ninety percent say you did
the right thing.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
She might have grabbed something from my car, though, and
there might be some kind of a dentity fraud thing
coming down the road. You never know, you know, does
she look like you? Did she look like me?

Speaker 3 (52:36):
Yeah? No, she gott to steal your identity as a
bold move.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
Of course you did the right thing. Unfortunately, if the
roles were reversed and it was a scruffy, middle aged
male degenerate like yourself, Matt, looking for ride from a
young female university student, it probably wouldn't be a good idea.
We should always help where we can, though. It all
comes back to you. Yeah, I mean the fact that
the person was smaller than me and I backed myself
if any stabbing started to be able to grab the

(53:00):
hand and stop it. Yeah, it was probably a big
part of why I did take this person. And also
it was raining, so the pressure was on. Yeah, you know,
you can't leave draggled person in the rain that is
struggling with the language. Is a flat phone, you know, Yeah,
it would have been. It would have been pretty cruel.
My mum who's who's in as seventies picks up randoms
quite often travelers from Germany, Canada, et cetera. They end

(53:22):
up staying at her place for a good few nights
since she ends up being a tour guide. I was
brought up in the eighties with random German. It's like
is staying over. She's way too trusting.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
That is terrifying if your grandma's in his seventies are
still picking up those hit higers.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
But good on her, Pete, what do you think about
this situation?

Speaker 21 (53:39):
Yeah, you got on there, Yeah you met for doing
what you did. I think you're having too many people there,
but it alreadys bad. But you talk by gunnons, think
young lady by herself. She's obviously going to right places,
going to universe, and she's probably here playing away and whatever.
It's quite hard for University Street. And hundred percent appreciate

(54:01):
what you did for that girl. You know it's a
rainy day and should be more people like you out there.
I pitch up, I pick up the one hitchhiker now too,
so you shouldn't. You've got to use your gut ins.
You can just look at them and think that I was.
You know, it's a bit of a said, well, you're
going to treat everybody as a bad person.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
Yeah, So how often would you pick up a hitchhiker? Pete?
Pretty much every time you see them, if you're going
between let's say cities, would you nine times out of teen.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
Pick them up?

Speaker 7 (54:26):
Oh?

Speaker 21 (54:26):
I still look at them first. I've done a lot
of traveling overseas in younger days, and then I an't
a travel around Northern Ireland. That and when I was there,
and that until you maybe mad hitting around Northern Island.
That when I was still quite military control, and I, well,
I am going to do the terrorists, the terrorist campaign
if they're shooting the terrorists coming going to the North Island.

(54:49):
More I had more and more I had more rides
going to northwile the rest of the rest of Ireland.

Speaker 6 (54:56):
You know.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
So there used to be quite a big thing hitshiking
around Europe. That used to be a thing people did.
I don't know, like if my kids said to me,
you know, in a few years, hey dad, I'm off
to hike around Europe, I'd probably be like geez. But
it was quite normal in the nineties. It was a
thing that a lot of people, did it seems safe.

(55:17):
I was just going to say, I was just going
to say, like, like, for example, in the movie American
Werewolf in London, but of course that didn't turn out
very well because they got attacked by a were wolf.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
But that's that's a good movie.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
That's an outlier experience, that right, And did you have
any here, if you had any hearing incidents at all,
Pete with your picking up hitchhikers or when you were hitchhiking.

Speaker 21 (55:38):
No, you're just saying thing like, if you're picking up
your hitchhikers yourself, you've got to suss amount. Basically, I
look at them. I think they're risks. Sorry, I'll just
carry on driving, But they look like genuine people when
they've got to backpack and all that. And so you've
got to use your gut instinct and you just give
it a shot, you know. Yeah, you got to use

(55:59):
your your judgmental character. And I hope you're doing the
right thing. And I don't have had any problem so far,
and hope it continues that away.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Oh cool, good on you.

Speaker 6 (56:06):
Pete.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
Appreciate that young girls should not be accepting rides from
grim Dodgy characters like Matt's. Is this text?

Speaker 3 (56:12):
Yep, good text? Come on, come on, guys, think about this.
What if it was your wife, girlfriend, or daughter, would
you want someone to help them? That's a very good point. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, yeah, yeah,
if they got into trouble and someone out of the
kindness of their heart helped them out in that situation.

(56:33):
But well, again, you said I phone was dead, so
I was going to say I'd expect them to call me,
but they couldn't in that scenario.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
But you know, maybe the question is what's wrong with
me that I even considered not helping because you're just
so full of the ideas. Is this person going to
be running a scam on me? Are they going to
try and steal something? Are they? You know there's something
else to this. We're so so geared towards things like that.
But what are the chances The chant very unlikely that

(57:03):
someone would come up to you in the rain like
that and asked to be taken to the university. You
know what I mean that the chances have been scams
quite small now I think about it, But.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
You're spot off. We're so bombarded now with be careful
about scams and if it feels too good to be true,
or something's not quite right, then don't do it, which
means that in that scenario you would drive off and
leave that poor girl there, which is not the country
we want to be. I think one hundred and eighty
ten eighties number to call.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
So your view on picking up strangers and taking them
places and being a good Samaritan and the risks around it.

Speaker 22 (57:36):
So I was brought up in a little town close
to the whitetomea cave, so I've always picked up pit strikers.
However I'm more discerning now, so I pick up couples
that look as though together and like somebody was saying
about having the backpacks and things. But the work I
do as well in the social services sector and around

(57:58):
mental health, I think you need to protect yourself.

Speaker 23 (58:04):
A little bit.

Speaker 22 (58:04):
So it might have been better to take her after
your son's appointment with your son in the car as well,
just you don't want to be accused of sexual abuse
or anything.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
I didn't think of that happened.

Speaker 22 (58:17):
It happened quite a lot. So even in our service,
any of the males transporting children and youth, we have
two staff members in the car.

Speaker 20 (58:26):
We don't seen just one.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
And is that primarily because of potential false allegations?

Speaker 22 (58:35):
Is that absolutely one of our counselors used to drive
with his one arm out the window and he always
did so that if anybody had seen him driving, they'd say.

Speaker 5 (58:44):
Oh, yes, he was the man.

Speaker 22 (58:46):
You know. No, he can't have done anything. But one
of our staff members has had a family member who's
been accused and went to court and all sorts and
was chucked out in the end. But it's absolutely traumatic
twelve months for that gentleman.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
Yeah, it's a be a bit more careful. Yeah, well,
I mean it's good advice, Sue, But it is a
sad state of fears, isn't it that you know in
med scenario that probably if you were smarter, you might
have thought about that and think, oh man, this could
put me in an uncomfortable position. But you did the
right thing.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
But what would this person have gained from that, from
accusing me of that blackmail or something because.

Speaker 22 (59:25):
You know se sexual abuse.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
Playing Oh god, gee, son, I didn't think about that. God, Okay,
leave it out in the rain next. But you do
get a vibe off people for your son's.

Speaker 22 (59:40):
Out, and so there's two of you in the Yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
But overall, so I mean that you know that that
is very wise advice. But overall, do you think Matt
did the right thing clearly?

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Yes, yeah, yeah, Well I'm glad I didn't leave in
the rain.

Speaker 22 (59:55):
And then what I do pick people up during the day,
but as I say, usually couples.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Now, yeah, I mean one thing that I might have
done wrong was indicate to her that safe to get
into cars in New Zealand with strange men, you know,
because she's she's come to New Zealand, her plane's flat.
The first time she's done it, I've drive driven her
across town and dropped her off and she's like, oh,
that's you can do that here. But you can't, you know,

(01:00:22):
from her safety perspective, littlone mine. You know, maybe I've
taught her a bad lesson, you know, who knows, but
I think she'd probably take it rather than standing over
it's in the rain with a flat lost with a
flat phone, you know, not long before it got dik. Yeah, okay, Sue,
thank you so much for your call.

Speaker 5 (01:00:39):
She is for that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call a truckload of texts are coming through on
nine two ninety two. If you want to send us
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Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
Talks here be thank you very much, Ray Lean, and
we're talking about picking up strangers after a incident, a
situation that you found yourself in, Matt.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Yeah, where I gave a young lady a lift across
town because her phone was flat and she didn't really
speak the language, and she was a student that just
landed apparently, and she didn't ask me if I could
give her a lift, and I did crosstown. But was
that the right thing to do? A lot of people
are saying yes. And this sort of dovetails nicely into

(01:02:37):
the study that's come out that basically says New Zealand
isn't as friendly as we might like to think. Yeah,
in the survey it found out, well, I was ninety
percent of expats and costa ricus think the locals are friendly.
Only forty percent think that the key weis are not
a good look for us. Hopefully, this international student thinks

(01:02:58):
if she ever gets asked, you go yeah, yeah, you
can just knock on the window of cars and dudes
will just drive you around town.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
How you Sharon, Hi, You've picked up a couple of
American tourists recently where they hit shiking.

Speaker 24 (01:03:14):
Kind of. They were staying in any AIRBMB close to
our place. I live in a rural, little rural town
and just outside of christ Church, and I was driving
into Hornby and to meet my sister and they were
sort of had their thumbs out on the side of
the road, and I said, what are you two girls doing?
Pulled over and just sort of asked them, and they said, oh,
we're trying to get an uber them, so we won't

(01:03:35):
knuber out here. So they said oh. I said where
are you going? And they said, oh, we're going to
pick up our rental. It's in the city. And I said, well,
what's the company? They told me, and I said, oh,
that's at the airport. Instead of going part way, I
can give you a ride to Hornby and I'm pretty
sure my sister when she turns around and goes back
to her place, she can drop you off. So that's
what we did. They were very friendly, really nice, and

(01:03:59):
they were from Salt Lake City. They were very chatty
and I gave them my business card and I said, look,
if you get stuck, have any troubled, give me a ring.
You would have driven past our gate to get here.
And that was great. And I got a couple of
texts to say that they were leaving the country and
thanks very much and bye bye. And about a month

(01:04:19):
later I got a call from one of their daughters
who was here with her fiance looking for a place
to stay, and we're happy to do some work for
their boards. So I let them come and stay for
ten days.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Great a wholesome story. Were they? Were they when you say,
when you say Salt Lake City? Were they members of
the Church of the Latter day Saints? Do you know
they were.

Speaker 24 (01:04:44):
From the Mormon faith? That they I think back in
their family that they weren't actually active practicing Mormons. But
they were very nice people.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Mormon's are always very nice people.

Speaker 24 (01:04:55):
They are, yeah, And they were just lovely and lots.
This young couple stayed with us. They had walked from
they'd walked that track right down the center of New
Zealand on the smell of an oily rag, literally, and
they came sort of in the autumn. We live on
a small farm and there wasn't really a lot for
them to do, so we just enjoyed the company. They
were just really neat.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
You go, yeah, but you so you I mean, you're
obviously seeing this couple and you're like, you're getting a
pretty good vibe from them.

Speaker 20 (01:05:21):
Oh yeah, they were.

Speaker 24 (01:05:22):
They just you know, I mean, especially where we live,
you know a lot of people out here, and they
just looked out of place. They looked at the lost.
And yeah, so no, they were quite happy to jump
in and have a ride. And and so they got
in my sister's car and went with her. And yeah,
everything turned out really good. And when the young couple

(01:05:43):
were heading back down to wan a crafter they've stayed
with us to meet with his parents, I said, well,
do you want me to take you to the to
the bus? They booked a bus. I know, they hadn't
booked a bus. They decided they were going to hitchhike,
that's right, And I said, well, probably the best place
would be I can take you down to Eshburton. But
then we got to Recura and it was really really busy,
so I said, well how about here. It might be

(01:06:03):
a good place because there's lots of traffic, and some
of that goes up to Timpson's track and some of
it goes down to esh Burton. They sorry, you know,
that'd be good with Then within about one minute of
them taking the bags out of my car, they had
been picked up by someone.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
Yeah that's good vibes good farmer, Yeah good good rule
folks down there, they would pick you up pretty fast.

Speaker 5 (01:06:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
Yeah, I think that the track has to look lost. Yeah,
because that's why I gave this young student a lift.

Speaker 20 (01:06:28):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
I mean to be fear I didn't. I wouldn't have
backed her to be able to pull off murdering me.
It's probably a part of it as well. But also,
you know, someone lost as very hard as a human
being to see someone lost and alone and confused and
in the place that they shouldn't be and not help them.
But you know, I'm sure there's been plenty of scammers

(01:06:49):
and plenty of bad people that have perfected the art
of looking lost.

Speaker 3 (01:06:53):
It's a great tip for hitchhikers though, that instead of
a sign that says esh Burton, you just have a
sign says I'm lost, Please help. You'll get a ride
like that. Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty
is the number to call. Andrew. How are you good?

Speaker 5 (01:07:07):
Yeah, I'm going pretty good. We've just been poured on
ourselves here, but by hittyke all over the country still.
I steel and old land rovers and stuff. So you know,
I will hittike where there's no bus option or other
other transport options to go and pick something up. And
I'll also pick up just about any hit tiker i'll

(01:07:30):
see out on the roads of the country when I'm driving.
And you know, there's one percent of all populations of psychopaths.
But every every hattiker hit tiging experience I've had on
either side has been pretty good, and you meet some
of the most interesting people as well. I've had all

(01:07:52):
these same sort of situations with backpackers ending upcoming and staying.
I met two gorgeous German girls on the corner of
Darga Ball once and ended up being very good friends
with them.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
That's the dream scenario there, Andre, Hey, Andrew, when you're
hitchhiking now, so you say you've been doing it for
a long time, is it is it getting harder to
get rides? Are the rides drying up?

Speaker 5 (01:08:18):
There was definitely a calling off during COVID. You know,
Lockdown's people became a lot more inteller and cautious about
that sort of thing. And we're just getting a little
bit of that back now. But what is more noticeable
is going into the cities Auckland, especially the prevalence of

(01:08:41):
the public transport. People don't have tolerance or perhaps the
mindset to pick up hitchhikers.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
How long would you expect to have your thumb out, Andrew,
when you when you're on the road, I'm going to.

Speaker 5 (01:08:53):
Get going out into backcountry New Zealand, any any rural road,
you know, usually it's it's a matter of a couple
of minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:09:01):
You know, I've had times going down the State Highway
six down towards Heart where I was waiting for a
house an hour with the mate because there was just
no other chance forge at the time.

Speaker 23 (01:09:12):
But you know, you've got to be prepared for these.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
Must be there must be a good vibe about you, Andrew,
because I remember when I used to hitch a bit
when I was you know, at Uni and stuff. I'd
hitch a lot from Dunedin to christ Church and boy
or boy, I could spend some time out on the
road to tell you. I could actually actually wrote a
song about it called Today Tomorrow Timrou. It was all
about standing on the side of the road. Actually wrote
that song standing on the side of the road. But yeah,

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imagined if you're getting picked in two minutes, they must
be you must have a good aura.

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
Yeah you funny.

Speaker 5 (01:09:42):
And if I got picked up on the side of
the road and tim a Rou once on my way
to duneaed and at about quarter past nine at night,
by guys, it's what the hell's you that this thirty? Yeah,
there's always that one late night experience.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
Well, longtown's like Timaru are a problem when you're hitching
as well, because if you if you get dropped, you know,
you get a ride and you get dropped on the
wrong side of Timaru, no one's going to pick you
up and and drive you through, so you have to walk.

Speaker 5 (01:10:10):
Anyone but the South Island certainly doesn't know late night
shopping when you're stuck on the side of the road
in the middle of nowhere.

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
And I'll take it. Your chat must be pretty good, Andrew.
That's a prerequisite, right if you're hitchhiking, you need to
have good chat in your small tool games.

Speaker 21 (01:10:26):
And I tell you what.

Speaker 5 (01:10:27):
Occasionally you get these ones who have come over. Some
of the backpackers don't actually have any social skills. They
sit on their phone texting when you've given.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
Them that's rue.

Speaker 5 (01:10:39):
They're the ones that you say, I'm just stopping a
little bit, Yeah, very good.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
Do you have the situation, Andrews. So we always look
at it from this perspective of the driver going, shall
I pick up that hitchhiker? Have you ever had your
thumb out and then you see the car pulling up
and you've put your thumb away because you're concerned about
the person picking you up?

Speaker 5 (01:10:59):
To be honest, I really haven't. You know, there's been
there's been some I had take twinos in Scotland going around.
It was twelve years ago now and and some some
definitely drunk sauced cadies picks me up and they were

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they were raff and it was a it was a
rough road. I wasn't going too far though, So when
you're young you take.

Speaker 6 (01:11:26):
Some of these risks.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
Yeah, all right, thank you so much for calling Andrew.
Appreciate that I pick up Andrew.

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
He seems like a goodson, haven't it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Yeah, I've got a nice vibe I think he's got
a pick up a ball of vibe.

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
The six is geez, guys, I live in Topor and
I pick up hitchhikers all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
Well, good on you, yeah goo on top great place.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. Nine two nine too if you want to
send a text message. We're going to play some messages,
but back very shortly. Here on news Talks b.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
Your new home of afternoon Talk Matt and Taylor afternoons
with the Volvo XC ninety turn every journey into something special.

Speaker 11 (01:12:05):
Call eight hundred eighty.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
News Talk said, good afternoon. We've been talking about picking
up strangers or hatchhikers from great texts coming through on
nine two nine two.

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
Hey, Matt and Tyler. I tried backpacking out of Great
Bear Island. I got picked up with a bunch of
mates by an ice truck. We were closed into the fridge,
sitting on bags of ice. Wow, this sounds serials serial killery.
The guy had a few boxes of beer in the
back and said we could help ourselves. Halfway through the ride,
when we realized there was no door on the inside,

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we questioned our.

Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
Decision obviously it had ended all right for that text.
He's still texting, he's still alive, might be still in
the ice track.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
It wasn't sort of a Dexter type situation.

Speaker 3 (01:12:49):
One hundred and eighty ten eighties and number to call
get a ridge? Is it here?

Speaker 18 (01:12:52):
I goes mate.

Speaker 20 (01:12:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (01:12:55):
Look, probably twelve or fifteen years ago, my cousin and
I were driving into Taupo to pick up some supplies
because we were having a reunion at a place called
Reperoiir just out of Tapo. And on the way into Taupo,
we noticed a young Asian girl on the side of
the right hitching to go north. So we did our

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stuff in Tapau and then on our way back out,
which is about two hours later, she was still there
trying to hitch a ride. So we stopped and picked
her up, and she came with us back to our Maria.
We fed her. She was trying to make it back
to Auckland because she'd been kind of left stranded by

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her friends, and all her luggage and everything was at
a hostel in Auckland and she was and she was
flying out the next day, so we so I left
my cousin in rapaeroir. I lived in Cambridge with my
two sons, so we drove to Cambridge. She stayed the

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night with my family in Cambridge, and the next morning
I drove her into Auckland, picked up her gears from
the hostel that she was staying, and then drove it
to the airport. And we became friends on Facebook. And
so my wife and I now I've remarried. My wife
and I were in heading to Japan and September and

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been in contact with Comoti and she said that she'd
love to meet us, and I get a chance to
meet her. She's now married, has a family, and so
I've ordered things that could have gone wrong. You know,
it was an amazing result.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
What a good person you are. So you went so
far out of your way, like amazing. I mean, I'm
tetting myself on the back driving someone from about four
k across town when they were lost in the rain.
You've taken someone all the way to Auckland, to their hostel,
to the airport. You're You're a sensational human being.

Speaker 18 (01:14:59):
Rech Well, she was only like seventeen, eighteen years old,
and I thought that I have children that age, and
I thought to myself if it was my daughter, I
would want somebody to do the same sort of thing
and care for her and make sure that she would
say so many things could have gone wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:15:18):
But how's she doing now that you mentioned you've stayed
in contact with it?

Speaker 18 (01:15:23):
Yes, yes, we've been friends on Facebook for for all
that time. And like I said, she's now an adult
and married with a family, and we're hoping to meet
them in September when we are in Japan as we're
going away for a bit of a holiday around Southeast Asia.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
Did you ever find out about of crap friends that
abandon her? What kind of crap friends abandoned someone in
a different country that far away from their luggage and
where they need to be? That's they sound like terrible people.
There might be more to the story there, as you

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ask her when you get over there.

Speaker 18 (01:16:07):
Yeah, yeah, so that's my story, and I thought, you know,
it's a good one considering the subject that's talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
Yeah, and Rich, thank you so much, and good on
you for doing that. And lucky she came across you
and not someone else's. She really really won the lottery
coming across you, So good on you.

Speaker 18 (01:16:25):
You and my son kind of gave me a sideways
look when I walked in with a young Asian girl
in the middle of the night and they said, what's
going on here?

Speaker 17 (01:16:32):
Dad?

Speaker 18 (01:16:33):
So yeah, thank.

Speaker 3 (01:16:35):
You, no, thank you, mate? What a story, great story. Quick,
a couple of texts and we're going to play some messages, guys.
Or the fact, Matt, that she asked a favor from
your son first would tell me that she was totally
genuine good call mate.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
Yeah, was that?

Speaker 3 (01:16:52):
Well, so she's gone to your son who's fifteen, yep, instead,
and see can you help me? So that obviously your
son at fifteen might be a little bit more unthreatening.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
Than an adult or so also this zero chance of
scamming a fifteen year old because I've got no money
at all.

Speaker 3 (01:17:11):
Yeah, exactly. And then at that point Barry did the
right thing and brought you involved. Yeah, good, good point
Oh e one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call. It is seven to.

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
Three the issues that affect you and a bit of
fun along the way. Matt and Taylor Afternoons with the
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Speaker 7 (01:17:32):
Be.

Speaker 3 (01:17:34):
Good afternoon. It is five to three We're gonna pick
this back up after three o'clock because so many people
want to have a chat about it. But we have
asked the question, is it okay to pick up a
stranger a hitchhiker? In twenty twenty five? After you did
something similar? She wasn't quite a hitchhiker, but pretty much.

Speaker 2 (01:17:49):
I picked up a lost soul on the side of
the street with a flat phone and took them across town.
And it terrified my son because he's been taught his
whole life that you don't do that kind of thing.
But hitchhiking used to be a big part of New
zealand transport culture, didn't it.

Speaker 5 (01:18:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
Also, the friendliest country for expats to move to. New
Zealand's way down the list. Yeah, and yet we think
we're a friendly country. Yeah, things like picking up hitchikers
suggest that you're friendly.

Speaker 3 (01:18:13):
Absolutely. Oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the
number to call. And just do we text poll going
into the news, do you pick up hitchhikers? Text nine
two ninety two. We're just looking for a yay or nay?
Are you someone that would pick up a hitchhiker? And
we'll do a bit of a tally after the three
o'clock news, which is coming up, I would say I'm

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going to hazard a guess yes. Sixty percent will say no,
forty percent say yay.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
Well I think most people will be angry. You just
talk all the way across all the way through my
guitar solo. But we don't go into that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:44):
All right, crank it, Andrews a bit happy.

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
Here your new home for insightful and entertaining talk.

Speaker 11 (01:19:20):
It's Maddie and Taylor Adams.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
Afternoons with the Volvo XC nighty on News Talk SEV.

Speaker 3 (01:19:27):
Good afternoon to you, but welcome back to the show.
Seven past three, and we have been talking about picking
up strangers slash hitchhikers. Now before the news, we asked
you to text to either yes or no would you
pick up a hitch shiker on nine two nine two,
And a quick tally up about sixty five percent said yep, absolutely,
we'll pick up a hitchhiker.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
I guess it depends on the hitchhiker.

Speaker 3 (01:19:50):
That's what a lot of the texts went on to
go and.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
Say, hitchhiker. You know, if it's a you know, seven
foot tall person with no pants on and a bandage
around their head.

Speaker 3 (01:20:01):
Yep, we x next to them. Yeah, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
Twice riving a chainsaw yeah maybe not, Yeah, but that
is a good sign.

Speaker 3 (01:20:09):
Sixty five percent. That is higher than what I thought
it would be. And we are going to take a
few more calls on picking up hitchhikers. But we do
want to talk about how friendly we are as a
country as well. On the back of a survey that
was released today.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
Yeah, New Zealand's a big climber in this survey. We've
moved up sixteen spots to twenty one, and this is
on the friendest countries for ex pats. But that's still
not great because we consider ourselves to be incredibly friendly.
And a shocking stat so nine out of ten experts
say that Costa Ricans are friendly, but only two out

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of five say that New Zealanders are friendly. So only
forty percent of expats in New Zealand think that New
Zealanders are friendly. And in a stat that I like,
because Finland, Sweden, and Denmark are always at the top
of these punishing poles, aren't they unhappiness mug Yeah, and
in Finland and Denmark, which we were more like the
me me me, me, me, me, me mea. Well, they're

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right down the bottom Denmark forty fifth, Sweden forty eighth,
and Finland fiftieth. Yeah, Expats in these Nordic countries especially
struggle with the unfriendliness of the population. They find it
harder to make local friends and do not feel welcome.
So stick that up in Norway. Actually, I've reached out

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and no always been unfairly maligned there. It was Sweden, Denmark, and.

Speaker 3 (01:21:30):
Finland, right, okay, Yeah, but those Nordic countries, yeah, take that.
I mean very happy, but apparently very unfriendly as well.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
So this young lady that I picked up yesterday and
drove across town because your phone was flat and it
was raining and such, she would probably if she was
asked a New Zealand it was the first day here.
But our New Zealand is friendly, she'd probably see you.

Speaker 3 (01:21:48):
Yeah, absolutely, one hundred percent. Yeah, very friendly country. I
could jump into the back car or of a random
stranger and he taught me to Yearnie. So love to
hear from you about do we think we are friendlier
than we are?

Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
Yeah? And if you've moved to New Zealand, are we friendly?
If you've moved here. You've become you're an expat living
in New Zealand where friendly. Is it easy to make
friends here? Yeah, because that can be the hardest thing
you can. Maybe people will be like, hey, how are
you or yeah, it's the rain. I might give you
a lift somewhere. Yeah, but as that's one thing, but

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actually become friends and be invited into other people's lives
that can be quite difficult.

Speaker 3 (01:22:26):
Comet, Yeah, oh, eight hundred and eighth, sorry you go,
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Nine two ninety two is the text number. And we've
got a few on hitchhiking as well.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
Dave here pulled over early one morning for a young
guy Nick minute. There are four men and a dog
in my car. Luckily my dog was behind them and
my fuel gauge was on the blank. Got the feeling
that they wanted to take me for a ride. I
mean that's the old trick. You have the most friendly
looking person out the front, the most palatable. When the
car pulls over, twenty five dudes run out from behind

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the Niberry bus from jumping your car.

Speaker 3 (01:22:59):
Yeah, good strategy, George, how are you?

Speaker 25 (01:23:03):
Yep? That was one of my stories I look at
I want to tell you a recommendation after ye go
for safety for safety, But I had a kid years
ago on the side of the road. He would have
been about twelve ten to twelve, I suppose between Rotor
and Tapau, probably about fifteen minutes before Tapo with the
thumbs up. Yeah, we stopped on our Volvo our Vauxhel,

(01:23:26):
big old gunnery machine, and about five of them piled
out of the bushes to join them. Belt they just
saturday over each other. Fine, but recomend. My recommendation is
if you are going to stop with somebody and you go,
could this create a situation that I can't control, Like
some girl gets in the car and then at the

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end of the right accusaity of sexual attack and all
this to carry on before they get in the car,
turn your dash cam around into the car so that
it's facing in the car, and as they get in
the car, tell them, by the way, all rides are
being videoed. Right, They'll either like it or they won't.
They're going to play up. They're not going to play up.
They're not going to even get in the car.

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
Yeah. Well, I mean we've talked about this on the
show before the advantages of having a dash cam.

Speaker 3 (01:24:14):
Yeah, I mean I don't have one, No me, neither.
You got one, Tyler, No, no, Yeah, but that is
a good tip, you know, going forward. I don't know
how much would cost to have a camera inside your
car recording for dollars.

Speaker 25 (01:24:25):
One of the chepy two dollars shops.

Speaker 3 (01:24:26):
So you've listened to it, okay, okay, forty five dollars
sold a bargain, George, thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
Hi, guys, I used to hatchig all over the country.
My long blonde hair, singlet and sexy black jeans helped
a lot, as I got a lot of rides from
the ladies. Now my hair is still long, but gray,
and I've got a massive beer gut and no abs
sticking out the bottom my singlet. Definitely don't get the
same results now.

Speaker 3 (01:24:56):
At leasta, being honest to him, at least you were
hot at one point, Tim, Yeah, yeah, you know, remember
the good time.

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
And also there are people that like a bit of
gray here, and a bit of a bit of bally stick,
a bit of belly sticking out from underneath the thing,
you know, a bit of a dead body. Yeah, yeah, right, Oh,
I'll be surprised.

Speaker 3 (01:25:14):
Is the number to cool? Nine two nine two is
the text number. It is twelve past three. Back very shortly.
You're listening to Matt and Tyler. Good afternoon. It's a
quarter past three, and we're talking about picking up hitchhikers
and some great stories coming through on nine two nine
two our text number.

Speaker 2 (01:25:30):
I used to pick up hatchhikers all the time. Into
one very very scary character hopped in my car at
gas station out west one night. He was very large
and had bad energy, so I played it cool all
the way to the city. When I managed to get
him out at the gas station and he said as
he got out, quote.

Speaker 3 (01:25:45):
Looky, you're a good gush sheep, because that is terrifying.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
Wow. Yeah. So we're kind of putting two topics together here,
which is New Zealand as friendly people. And this comes
on the back of a study on ex pats. It
puts us kind of down the pack in terms of
friendliness in the world, and that sort of plays into
whether you pick up a hitchhiker.

Speaker 5 (01:26:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:26:04):
Well, I think that's a good metric for how friendly
a country is. Met How were you the staff to know?

Speaker 8 (01:26:10):
Yeah, right there Matt and Tyler. Nice to talk to you.

Speaker 3 (01:26:14):
Thank you.

Speaker 8 (01:26:15):
Yeah, I've got a kind of a bit of an
alternative hitch hiking story that happened to me in the eighties.
This a bit of a bit of a poopoo for
a lot of a lot of your callers that have
come in.

Speaker 23 (01:26:25):
But anyway, I worked for a company.

Speaker 8 (01:26:28):
I was I was sort of doing an attempting work,
just driving white van delivery white vans around London. And
it was one time I was up in a place
called Selsdon, that sort of south London. But I had
a drop off at a shop and I stopped the van,
went into the shop and came out and there was
a there was a girl standing by the van. She
was quite like a not a big she was a

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big girl, like a like a rugby player. So I
was a big girl with a big knee bandage on
and limping around and she said, Oh, I'm trying to
get to the bus station in Croydon. Can you give
me a list? And I said, well, the company policy
was no lists, you know, no one in, no one
in the vehicles. And I said, I really sorry, I can't.
It was starting to spit rain a bit and she

(01:27:11):
was sort of I felt a bit sorry for I said,
come on, and it's only four or five k down
the road jumping. So she jumped in, took her down
in a chat and she was going to her brother's
twenty first birthday party apparently. So I dropped off at
Crowdon bus station and as I pulled away, I was
sort of a few hundred meters down the road and
in those days we have the old CB radios and

(01:27:33):
it was the you know, the head office ringing meat off,
calling me and the boss said, Matt, are you alone?
And I thought is hidden camera? Yeah, no cameras in
the day. And I said, well, what's up and he
said well are you alone? And I said yeah, and
he said okay, where did you drop her? I was like,

(01:27:54):
what the hell? So I said, well, Crowdon Croydon Central
bus Station and he said okay, stay on, stay on
channel and I could hear him talking on the phone
to someone else and then he came back and he said, right,
just return to base. So I thought, oh god, I'm
in trouble now. So I drove back to base. Whi's
just probably an hour. It's a place called Crawley, and
got back to base, and they're a big group of

(01:28:14):
people who worked for the company cheered when I drove up,
and I thought what I went into went into his
office and he said, mate, He said, the reason the
reason I was calling and I was really concerned, is
because as the girl was getting in your van, two
nurses from the local asylum for want of a better words,
were running down the road trying to catch her because

(01:28:36):
she's a dangerous person, basically some real dangerous inmate who'd escaped.
And I'd basically taken this to the central bus station
to escape even further.

Speaker 11 (01:28:48):
Wow.

Speaker 8 (01:28:49):
But yeah, so they they rang the police, and then
they contacted the company, and the company got me on
the radio and said, you know, are you alone? And
so the kind of a I wouldn't I would never
have known, guys, I never have known.

Speaker 2 (01:29:03):
She was She wasn't behaving.

Speaker 8 (01:29:07):
She was lovely, and she invited me to her brothers
but twenty first, and I said, ah.

Speaker 23 (01:29:11):
I didn't.

Speaker 8 (01:29:12):
I didn't want to go, obviously, and I said, nah, no,
I'm more. But Hope's there was so much to the
invite and looking back, you know, I've looked back on
it a few times. It kind of reminded me of
your show today. Reminded me of it, to be honest,
and I and I thought, you know, if i'd have
said the wrong things, you know, if I said, well,
I don't want to come to your bloody brothers, don't
you something? If I have said something untoward, you never

(01:29:32):
know what could have happened.

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
Well, you said she was she was a rugby player's build.

Speaker 5 (01:29:38):
She was.

Speaker 8 (01:29:39):
I wouldn't have I wouldn't have stood a chance. But
I mean physically, especially if someone's someone's sort of a
bit psychopathic, your knack really, so basically from what everyone
else is saying, I've given people lifts since then, of
course I have, but I tend to and as you
get older, you get a little bit more of a

(01:30:00):
gut feeling about things. You know, if I see someone
pass a park car and there's someone up the road
the Jerry can in their hand.

Speaker 3 (01:30:07):
Of course, I yeah, yeah, But.

Speaker 8 (01:30:11):
You did the right thing, Matt, definitely, But I thought
I was doing the right thing and it went okay.
I don't know if they have a quarter or not.

Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
There could have been a trigger, There could have been
a trigger word that that could have set things off.
If you got on the wrong the wrong subject.

Speaker 3 (01:30:27):
Clearly your colleagues loved it, though, Matte, that's a great story.
You never would have loved that one down I got.

Speaker 8 (01:30:32):
I had a big thing on the on the blackboard,
in the in the in the coms room. Always always,
always prepare for a Matt finish.

Speaker 2 (01:30:41):
Thank you so much for you call. Matt very good
slightly annoyed about that story because he picked her up
in Croydon. Ye, but the head office was in Crawley. Yeah,
And if it had been the other way around, I
would have been able to say she was a creepy
from Crawley. But because it wasn't, the joke doesn't work.

Speaker 11 (01:30:57):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:30:58):
I could say the gears turning around while he was like, mate,
it's got something here.

Speaker 5 (01:31:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:31:02):
So unfortunately I won't mention that because it doesn't work.
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:31:05):
Yeah, next time you call up with that story, Matt
just hid up what.

Speaker 2 (01:31:08):
Pick her up and preck her up in Crawley and
turn your offices into Croydon. That would be good.

Speaker 20 (01:31:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:31:13):
Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call,
and we'll get to some of the texts that have
been sent through On nine two ninety two shortly as well.

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
Yeah, so we're running two things now. They think they
kind of work together.

Speaker 6 (01:31:25):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:31:25):
Is it still okay to pick up hitchhikers in the
current world in twenty twenty five and New Zealand is
friendly if you're an expat that's come to our country,
you know, are they the kind of people that would
pick people up?

Speaker 11 (01:31:36):
Yep?

Speaker 3 (01:31:36):
Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to
give us a buzz. It's twenty one past three.

Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
And by day I mean we because I'm in New Zealander.

Speaker 11 (01:31:43):
All right, Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh, eight
hundred eighty ten eighty on News Talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (01:31:54):
Good afternoon. We're talking about hit shiking in New Zealand.
Do you pick up hitchhikers or let strangers into your vehicle? Well,
eight hundred and eighteen eighty is number. Call get a poll.

Speaker 6 (01:32:04):
Hi, how are you going?

Speaker 3 (01:32:06):
Very good? So you want to talk about hit shiking.

Speaker 6 (01:32:10):
Yeah, I'm a pretty much a hit shike on myself.

Speaker 16 (01:32:12):
I'm a bit of a lone soldier everywhere around the world,
you know, Buska nice.

Speaker 6 (01:32:18):
I've hit shiked.

Speaker 16 (01:32:19):
I lived in Australia for seventeen years, I've hit shoked
like sours ands, millions of.

Speaker 6 (01:32:23):
Kys in the midnight. Heard a lot of stories of
how people go missing. But it's like how you treat people.

Speaker 16 (01:32:32):
You know, you've got to love people to get a
response or a reaction if you be straight to the
point and tell them where you're going, and if they
try and intimidate you, you don't fall for that. And being
like the country of New Zealand, and it's very hard
our people because I'm moldy myself and lived in Australia

(01:32:52):
for a long time.

Speaker 6 (01:32:53):
Very nice in Australia, very easy life.

Speaker 16 (01:32:56):
New Zealand's a bit harder because the money as well,
and people don't have the money to spend.

Speaker 6 (01:33:00):
They worry about their money.

Speaker 16 (01:33:01):
Or their fuels, so they don't really like picking up
hitchhikers too because they don't trust as well with the
country's been through.

Speaker 2 (01:33:08):
Hey, when you're as a busker, you playing a guitar,
Is that how you do it?

Speaker 11 (01:33:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:33:13):
I play guitar and I sing.

Speaker 16 (01:33:16):
Every day twenty four to seven, seven days a week,
or a couple of hours sleep and come home and
then go back out and earn my living.

Speaker 2 (01:33:21):
Wow do you. How do you find This is a
question slightly off topic, but how do you find busking? Nowadays?
When people don't have the coins in their pocket to
throw in.

Speaker 6 (01:33:30):
You out, it's more to do.

Speaker 16 (01:33:33):
I don't really chase the money than the money comes
to me more than anything. If I give out a
good energy, a good vibe, it'll react back the same,
like busking or anything you do in.

Speaker 6 (01:33:44):
Life, even hit choking you like I do my prayers.
So I go, Lord, thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:33:49):
For this day.

Speaker 16 (01:33:49):
I hope someone picks me up, and I'm getting angry,
I'm getting frustrated, and then someone picks me up.

Speaker 2 (01:33:55):
And do you find you more likely to get picked
up if you're carrying your guitar, Because I feel like
I'd be more likely to pick up someone that's got
a guitar just just feels like they've got might have
something to offer.

Speaker 6 (01:34:05):
Yeah, yeah, it actually works.

Speaker 26 (01:34:08):
Ye.

Speaker 6 (01:34:09):
I've I've been around being picked up, even in my oon.

Speaker 16 (01:34:11):
I live in road UA at the moment, I live
in the block, and I've had games just picked me
up and I'm going, bro.

Speaker 6 (01:34:17):
Do I owe you anything? And they go, no, You're
all right.

Speaker 3 (01:34:22):
It's nice now and out of the countries that you've
been in, Paul, what was the easiest place to hit chicken?

Speaker 16 (01:34:31):
Probably because I lived in towns All and that's a
thousand k's in land to Mount Isa and I used
to hitch road.

Speaker 6 (01:34:37):
Trains all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:34:38):
Oh yeah, and.

Speaker 6 (01:34:40):
That's like a twelve hour drives.

Speaker 2 (01:34:43):
Are you expected to stay awake and keep the driver
company in that kind of situation?

Speaker 6 (01:34:48):
Yeah, I'll talk his years off all night long.

Speaker 3 (01:34:52):
Thanks you cool, Paul, Yeah, very good.

Speaker 2 (01:34:55):
Those roads, those distances in Australia insane. Yeah, when you
just see a road sign it says, you know, twelve
hundred k.

Speaker 3 (01:35:01):
Yeah, unreal. So what's a road train? That's like a truck?
A messive truck right, and I've got how many trailers.

Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
On the trailers on the back? Yeah, yeah, because because
the straight line roads in Australia. Yeah yeah, miles.

Speaker 3 (01:35:12):
Yeah, some great teams coming through on nine two ninety two.
This one is about us being friendly as.

Speaker 2 (01:35:19):
Ki was a superficially friendly good to Taurus because we
like our rep But for a foreigner to break into
a friend group is incredibly hard.

Speaker 3 (01:35:27):
I've heard that clique. Yeah, I think we are a
clique bunch. We are I think very friendly, just a
bit guarded.

Speaker 2 (01:35:33):
Moved to New Zealand seventeen years ago and forty three.
On my first week, went to a supermarket and tried
to buy a wine for a get together with friends.
Didn't have ID with me, so they wouldn't sell it
to me. But the guy behind me and the Q
was listening, so he bought the wine for me to
try to pay him back, but he declined and said,
welcome to New Zealand. Legend. Always thankful to that guy,
cheers Pableau.

Speaker 3 (01:35:52):
Yeah, that that is a great New Zealander. Whoever that
person is on the back, good on you. That's the
sort of friendliness we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:35:58):
Have you ever done that for someone when they haven't
been able to pay in front of you in a
supermarket queue or something and paid for them.

Speaker 3 (01:36:04):
I've never been in that situation. I'd like to think
I would have you. I take it you've been in
that situation I have. Was it a bottle of wine?

Speaker 11 (01:36:11):
No?

Speaker 9 (01:36:11):
What was it?

Speaker 2 (01:36:12):
Full groceries? Is it for someone once?

Speaker 3 (01:36:15):
And what was their reaction?

Speaker 2 (01:36:16):
They were very grateful?

Speaker 3 (01:36:17):
I bet they were.

Speaker 2 (01:36:18):
Yeah, Hey, guys, sitch choking to Auckland from top or
got a lift from a guy. He stopped at Drury
and got out, gave me the thumbs up and started
to walk off. I said, what about your car? He said,
it's not mine own, nicked it. I walked off in
the other direction.

Speaker 3 (01:36:33):
That's true, that's amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:36:36):
Hi guys, I'm South African, been here eighteen years and
Kiwis are very friendly, but very difficult to make good
friends with. Yeah, that's sort of the superficial friendliness. And
that's what they say about Denmark, Sweden and Finland that
very very hard to get into the groups there. I mean, well,

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is it just true of everything?

Speaker 3 (01:36:59):
Well, we are guarded, aren't we. I think we are
friendly and if someone comes in or wants to try
and get into the friend group, yep, we're a bit
guarded and a bit you know, protect for that group.
But once they're rant, they are.

Speaker 2 (01:37:10):
But that that you're clique and guarded or is it
just that you know, you have shared experiences with people
and that's why they're friends. I mean, my best mates
are all from you know, a lot of them are
from my final year of high school a long time ago.
So it's hard for someone no matter where they're from,
to suddenly jump the queue on some of those mates.

Speaker 3 (01:37:31):
Yeah, yeah, it's a good point. You're right. I mean
those lifelong friendships, although I have.

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
Made friends with with with some people that have moved
to New Zealand in the last few years become very
good friends with a lovely American couple. Yeah, Liz and Chris,
if you're listening, Liz.

Speaker 3 (01:37:46):
And Chris, just quickly the top three and we'll go
through the top ten friendliest countries in the world according
to the survey. Say, as you mentioned, number one was
Costa Rica, number two Mexico, and number three the Philippines. Yeah,
so maybe they aren't so clique and the likes of
Costa Rica, Mexico and Philippines.

Speaker 2 (01:38:04):
Yeah, well we're way back on the list.

Speaker 3 (01:38:06):
Way back. A dirty old twin come on New Zealand
and yeah, but we're.

Speaker 2 (01:38:10):
Not as hateful as the as the Finns.

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Speaker 3 (01:39:45):
Thank you very much, Rayleen. And we're talking about hitchhiking
in New Zealand. Do you pack up hitchhikers? This is
on the back of Matt getting into a situation where
she wasn't a hitchhiker but she needed a ride in. Matt,
I think did the right thing and drove Furder University.
But is it right a bick up strangers?

Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
What a good guy?

Speaker 5 (01:40:01):
I am?

Speaker 3 (01:40:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:40:02):
Gooday guys. Recently had a young American guy approached me
in christ asking for directions for his backpackers. It was
about thirty minutes walk away, and I said I was
going that way and if he was sweet to wait
five minutes, I would drive him straight there. He looked
at me horrified and said no thanks, I'm okay to
walk and sped off. I was taken aback and talk
to friends about it. They sugges said, maybe being American,

(01:40:22):
he wasn't ready for an enthusiastic offer of a lift
in a private vehicle and got heavy serial killer vibes
from me. Cheers Aaron, Yeah, I mean, if you were
in America, there's been so well, there has been you know,
seems like the lion's share of serial killers were from America,
but that's probably because the media is so rabbit on
them over there and you hear about it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:42):
Yeap.

Speaker 2 (01:40:42):
There's probably trillions in China and India and Central America,
but that we just don't really hear about. But you
would have seen movies, yep, and growing up with the
feeling that there was a lot of serial killers out
there when there wasn't. There isn't really no, although this
Texas is reminder guys, Ivan Mallet. Millet picked up hitchhikers

(01:41:03):
in Australia and that had a terrible outcome. I'm an
ex butcher myself, so I'm not sure the safe part
lands cheers Susie.

Speaker 3 (01:41:10):
Yeah, and as we we're talking about during the air break,
that was what they based Wolf Creak on, which is
a terrifying movie.

Speaker 2 (01:41:17):
Yeah. So he's commonly known as the backpacker murderer. Harrific
horrific situation.

Speaker 3 (01:41:24):
Yeah. Yeah, eighty is the number to call. Don you
reckon you picked up a pretty dodgy character.

Speaker 5 (01:41:34):
No.

Speaker 23 (01:41:35):
I was an empora student in Auckland in the early
sixties and used to hitchhike home to near Dargavall fur
for a decent meal, quite a bit in the weekend,
and I'd get the bus over the Harbor Bridge, get
off and Takapuna that's where the motorway ended, and I'd
start hitching. And this guy picked me up and a
Crysler Valiant. You hardly ever got picked up by flash cars,

(01:41:58):
and this was a new Valiant.

Speaker 3 (01:41:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 23 (01:42:00):
And the driver was telling me he was the captain
of a ship up at Marston Point. This was his
brand new car and he was driving up to to
his ship. And anyway, I had a good look at
the car and I saw from the stickers on the
window it was a rental car. Right, this is a
bit dodgy.

Speaker 2 (01:42:20):
Is this before you've got into the car or.

Speaker 11 (01:42:23):
No after after?

Speaker 23 (01:42:24):
Yep, you see by the warrant of fitness stickers it's
a different stick of a rental car. Then, okay, anyway,
we got as far as Albert and he started stopping
at the Albany Pub for a drink. Would you like
to come in with me? Well, I was eighteen, you
had to be twenty one for a drink. Anyway, I
just wanted to get home, and so I said, now

(01:42:46):
I'll get out and startedhitching the game. But if you
see me, perhaps give me a lift, hoping that he wouldn't.
Unfortunately I got a lift straight away and I was
on the way. But it was a bit suspicious.

Speaker 2 (01:42:58):
Yeah, well maybe I mean that. The I guess the
charitable you know analysis of that is that he wanted
to pretend that was his car, you know what I think. Yeah,
he wanted to impress you, I guess.

Speaker 3 (01:43:12):
So, Yeah, what what was his chat like when you're
in the car? What was the discussion like? Did he
come across then as maybe a slightly weird?

Speaker 5 (01:43:22):
Uh?

Speaker 23 (01:43:22):
He is actually well spoken, well dressed, and uh asked me,
I think it was English, and he asked me if
I was English for my accent, but I wasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:43:35):
Did he ever did he have a misstart?

Speaker 23 (01:43:38):
I can't remember.

Speaker 2 (01:43:40):
I was wondering if it was Peter plummy Walker. Anyway,
thank you so much for for your call there. Uh,
this Texas is I pick up hatchukers all the time,
and I'm not worried about them being serial killers because
what is the chance of two serial killers in the
same car at the same time. Yeah, you see, that's
a lightning strike. Lightning doesn't strike twice in the same
place kind of situation.

Speaker 3 (01:43:59):
Yeah, yeah, very wise.

Speaker 2 (01:44:00):
Well it does silly as that text is, but funny.

Speaker 26 (01:44:03):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:44:05):
You know what's more likely to be the dodgy person
person hitchhiking that you get into your car or the
or the driver picking up the hatchhiker? Who's that more risk?
There is more driver, isn't it? You reckon? There's drivers
driving around looking to do bad things to hitchhikers.

Speaker 3 (01:44:21):
Definitely. I think the bar of.

Speaker 2 (01:44:24):
Just putting your finger out to hitch yeah, it's pretty easy,
you know. Anyone anyone can that's you know, been up
for five days on methn feed imine can have their
thumb out.

Speaker 3 (01:44:34):
Yeah. Good point. Well, if you're picking up a hitchhiker,
what do you look for instantly? Is your eye them up?
What are the telltale signs that this person might be
all right to pick up for you?

Speaker 2 (01:44:46):
Well? Can I beat him in a fight?

Speaker 8 (01:44:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:44:50):
That's number one? How big is he if he's five two?
Jump on in?

Speaker 2 (01:44:55):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:44:56):
Backpack definitely, if they've got to say don't have a
backpack and the hitchhiking, I'm kind of thinking, what's going
on here? You know, where are you going to with
no luggage?

Speaker 5 (01:45:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:45:04):
If there's stumbling down the road with no luggage and
they're in the middle of nowhere, that probably raised a
few red flags.

Speaker 3 (01:45:10):
Yeah. Oh, eight hundred a ten eighty is a number
to call. There some great texts coming through. We'll get
to a few of those very shortly. It is twenty
one to four.

Speaker 1 (01:45:20):
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Speaker 11 (01:45:29):
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Speaker 3 (01:45:30):
They'd be good afternoon. We're talking about hit shiking. Do
you pack up hit shikers or your own hit shiking stories? Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Quack teics here, guys, no backpack is suspicious unless you
a check creature. Yep, and this one, guys. Times have changed.
I would never want a hitchhike now. Just catch the

(01:45:51):
bus to Risky otherwise.

Speaker 8 (01:45:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:45:54):
Is it risk here? Things more dangerous now? Or are
we just more aware of bad things happening and we've
had more a longer period of time of hearing bad
stories and watching serial killer movies?

Speaker 3 (01:46:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:46:06):
You know, you know before but you know, Silence of
the Lambs and seven and all that kind of stuff.
Did we really think about that much? You know, obviously
bad things happen, yeah, but did it actually happen that often?

Speaker 3 (01:46:19):
I don't think we've changed that more so.

Speaker 2 (01:46:20):
I mean, we've got a larger population now, so as
just statistically more bad things are going to happen then
in the seventies when there's only three million people here,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:46:29):
I think you're right. I think it's we get told
far too many scary stories about what happens to shikers
that we don't want to do it anymore, and it's
just not the truth. Mike. How are you?

Speaker 9 (01:46:41):
Yeah? Hi guys, Yeah, good, thank you. Yeah.

Speaker 27 (01:46:44):
Over the years, I've picked up a few hitchhikers, and
I've hitchiked quite a bit myself, and you definitely have
to be discerning whether you're the driver or the hitchhiker
in terms of what you're getting involved with. I think,
and quite often, you know, you can determine that just
for a glance. But I've hit chi like twice from

(01:47:04):
Auckland to Queenstown, once in the summer and once in winter,
and I've been I've got off the Fury in winter
from Wellington to picton midnight and I've been in the
snow waiting for a lift, and you're very thankful when
in that situation someone picks you up. It's definitely easier

(01:47:26):
if I had a female partner with me, and I
think that makes someone that wants to pick you up
feel a bit safer if there's a girl there or
a female and being a driver picking up a hit choker.
If they've got it, like you said before, tailft, they've
got a backpack, and especially if they look like they're
onto it and prepared. They have a handwritten sign. So

(01:47:47):
if you're in Auckland and they'll say have a sign
saying Calpo, obviously you know they're they're prepared.

Speaker 9 (01:47:56):
But but going back a few years, I was in
the Hawks Bay twenty five years ago and I was
a skinny little guy from Aukland down there and I
was said hiking somewhere down there. It was a twenty
minute trip and this car pulled up. I don't know

(01:48:16):
it was a Valiant, either a Valiant or a Ford
Falcon or a Charge or something. And I thought last
week to throw my thumb out and I jumped in
the back seat and the two guys in the front
had leather vests and covered an arm and facial tattoos.
I was like, oh, yeah, hey, guys, by guys, and
I kid you not. This thing took off like the

(01:48:37):
Junior League from the Chicken Hazard. And for twenty minutes.
Can you imagine this little skinny guy from Auckland hanging
on for dear life from the handles on either side
of the roof in the back seat, sitting in the middle,
just getting chucked from side to side around all of
these corners at speeds, and I just remember the only

(01:48:58):
thing I remember thinking is I can't believe a car
the size can go around corners this far.

Speaker 2 (01:49:05):
Was there any chat coming on the front up? Don't
Was there any chat coming from the front seat? Or
is this complete silence?

Speaker 20 (01:49:11):
No?

Speaker 9 (01:49:11):
No, I think they were just grims coming from the
front seat. But yeah, I was too proud and too
brave to say stop. Lit me out and out And
I kid you not, you've heard of that term. Your
knees are knocking. They were when I got out.

Speaker 2 (01:49:30):
So basically what they did and they said, we'll pick
this guy up and we're going to scare the living,
but Jesus out of him is really what they did.

Speaker 9 (01:49:36):
That's what I thought afterwards, that it was bright at
the laugh and I thought, you retrospects these days, you
probably pay for a ride like that exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:49:46):
The Valiant has come up in a few dodgy hitchhiking story. Yeah,
Chrysler Valiants, dodgy cars.

Speaker 3 (01:49:53):
Beautiful vehicles though, absolutely, Mike, thank you very much for
giving us a buzz uh Khan, How are you mates? Yeah,
good guys, goods and what's your story?

Speaker 4 (01:50:08):
So I think I've picked up So there's a lot
of what people saying that's true. If I if I
come across somebody sitting on their bag on the edge
on the edge of town and not walking, not picking
them up. If they're walking, absolutely pick them up. It
depends with the quie like like there's a couple of

(01:50:28):
years on, I was hitching to Telpo and I got
just out of token roller. Four young fallows in an
old ship box car. Pick me up by getting the
bag drinking and homebrew whiskey, and it's smoking the stuff

(01:50:52):
as well. I have a certainly carry on. We can
cat the cops to five minutes later, the drivers doesn't
have the he's got to ruin a license, the cotton
nose and the nose. All four of them asked, who's
who's the someone with a full licens my car? So
I put my hand up, So we all switching our seats.

(01:51:13):
So I getting the driver's seat and dark down the
road for ten minutes, Pet we saw sek rout.

Speaker 3 (01:51:22):
So when you saw these fellas they're all together, was
that you just saw these four guys on the side
of the road drinking home homebrew and you thought, oh, yep,
these guys will be all right.

Speaker 4 (01:51:31):
No, they picked me up.

Speaker 3 (01:51:33):
Oh right, I got you. Sorry, Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (01:51:36):
Was chosing so I had to drive in the concepts.

Speaker 3 (01:51:41):
So good.

Speaker 2 (01:51:42):
Yeah, thank you for your cal I used to hitchhike
as a young woman in the late nineteen seventies early
nineteen eighties, usually with a boyfriend. But I did hitch
a loan from Rotrua airport to home and Totranger after
UNI finished. If my daughter did that today, I would
be free, doubt sus Mary Ann. Yeah, I don't know.
I imagine your parents probably probably freaked out back then.

Speaker 3 (01:52:03):
Yeah, going back to your point, I mean, has much
changed in that twenty thirty years realistically, you know, I
mean a lot of people say if you're a young woman,
never hit hike alone, and that seems like sound advice,
but I don't know if much change.

Speaker 2 (01:52:16):
Hi, guys, I was hitchhiking the South Island at the
end of high school, eighteen years old with another girl.
This was nineteen ninety eight, at the exact time as
Ben Smart and Olivia Hope went missing. We also got
in the back of a van that trip with four
guys or holding rifles, but they turned out to be
pig hunters, so it was fine. Cheers, Cindy. That's a
good If you get in the back of a van

(01:52:38):
and there's four guys with rifles.

Speaker 3 (01:52:41):
Yeah, and a dead pig, then you're going to be right.

Speaker 2 (01:52:43):
Yeah, just four rifles, I don't know, dead pig strapped
to the you know, the front of the car. Sweet
air A Okay, you're good to go.

Speaker 3 (01:52:50):
Oh eight hundred and eighty. Ten eighty is the number
to call. Will wrap it up very shortly. It is
ten to four.

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you this afternoon?

Speaker 6 (01:53:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 26 (01:53:16):
Good made a story about picking up a bloke. When
I was on my motorbike coming back from Dairy Flat
to Albany Winter's night Kennox Clock black Hairs and I
went going along the road and I passed the motorbike
packed on the.

Speaker 5 (01:53:30):
Side of the road.

Speaker 26 (01:53:31):
So I thought, oh, there's a bit of a code
makes motorcyclist. You see someone on the side the road,
you get back seat. You can help a big mingramob
follow the big mary chip pitch and all. And I
said which Robin Brown, he said, running out of petrol,
said you want to listen? He said, well, my mates
started walking. I said, oh, well, I'll go and see
if I find them. So I went along the road
a bit and in the dark there's another big fellow.

(01:53:53):
So I stopped and I said, oh, and we're going
and get some guests. So we went to the petrol
station at the coach will turn off, and he got
five leaders in a can, ran them back to their
bikes and stayed there while left order up. We shore
canes and I went on my way, so you never know.
Good night everybody is bad.

Speaker 2 (01:54:10):
Yeah, good, good on you.

Speaker 3 (01:54:11):
Well, it's bloody lucky you came along, John, in the
middle of the night. Gang member or no gang member,
they would have been stuffed. If you hadn't come along.

Speaker 26 (01:54:18):
They would have And it was getting their closing time
for the fuel and it was so black and they
were in leathers they could easy I mean run over.
I mean there's that straight below the dairy flat all there,
the kids stores coast and people go along there like
a bat out of hell. It would have been this
was thirty years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:54:35):
It would have been unbelievably rubbish if after all that
they had robbed you or something. Yeah, thank you so
much for you call John, appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:54:43):
A few texts to wrap it all up, Guys, I'm
an expert when it comes to hitchhiking. I think in
terms of being friendly in New Zealand. It's different in
terms of driving. Nope, if you tend to pick them up,
you're a good New Zealander. That is what we love

(01:55:04):
about this country. We should focus on being friendly to
our guests.

Speaker 2 (01:55:08):
Yeah, there you go, Hi, guys. I hitchhiked around Ireland,
and this farmer picked me up and dropped me out
a pub in the middle of nowhere. It grew a
holly tree inside from memory, and he raced home, put
on his Sunday best, slipped his hair back, and came
back and proposed marriage. And I said yes, well only joking,
though it was really awkward. I had to send him

(01:55:29):
on his way. He picked her up, went home, put
on a nice jacket, slick to see back, and came
back and promos.

Speaker 3 (01:55:36):
Boy, that was a lot of smooth dude.

Speaker 2 (01:55:38):
That was love at first sight for him.

Speaker 3 (01:55:39):
Here, Yeah, well done. That man didn't quite work out
for him. Guys. I think we possibly are a lot
safer nowadays. I think the fact that we can excess
news readily and seal the things online all the time
means that we think it is more dangerous. Reality is
we all have smartphones and we can record things. We
can let people know exactly where we are every minute
of every day. Just pick up the hitchhiker, all goods.

Speaker 2 (01:56:01):
Oh, there you go. It's been an absolutely cracker.

Speaker 3 (01:56:05):
Yep, it has absolutely Now just minder on the show
tomorrow Mark Vetti will be taking your calls and questions.
He's an animal behavior expert and it was super popular
the last time we had him on, so we're having
him on for a whole hour tomorrow after three o'clock.

Speaker 2 (01:56:21):
Yeah. Well, thanks for listening to you. Tomorrow AVU for
another edition of Matt and Tyler Afternoons on zb.

Speaker 1 (01:56:27):
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