Full Show Podcast: 21 March 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hello you, great New Zealanders, and welcome to Matt and
Tyler Afternoon's Full Show Pod number ninety.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
Two, ninety two?

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Is it ninety two?

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yeah, ninety two. Geez. So we're on a week and
a bit away from our one hundredth show. Wow, that's
going that's going fast. Yeah. It is Friday, the twenty month,
the twenty month Friday, the twenty first of March. Really
really freaking enjoyed the show today. We had some great
chats later on. We talk a lot about bathrooms and

(00:44):
whether you're week if you need them. We were talking
about the Horsey chat, the Horsey here Do chat. Yeah,
that went.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
That went large, passionate, way more passionate than I expected.
One gentleman. He started to rip into us for our
disgust of the Hawsey hearing.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
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(01:20):
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Speaker 1 (01:26):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and
everything in between. Matt and Taylor Afternoons with the Volvo
XC ninety attention to detail and a commitment to comfort,
News Talk zed B.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Well, how did you welcome into Friday? Seven past one? Howdy?
I don't know why. I just came up with Howdy,
just felt right at the time. That's a new one.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah, maybe keep it? Thank you your thing?

Speaker 5 (01:58):
Do?

Speaker 6 (01:58):
Who?

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Maybe not? That's too far?

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Sorry, that's too I got too excited.

Speaker 7 (02:03):
How do you who?

Speaker 2 (02:04):
It's Met and Tyler Afternoons on ZB. That's not good.
I just felt a listenership drop when you said that.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Yeah, yeah, I think we've got to bring that back right.
Happy Friday to you. Great to have your company as always. Now, Matt,
you had a bit of an incident last night.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah. So I was hosting the ten year celebrations of
the Great New Zealand is at New Green. I was
hosting a dinner nice for them. It was a fantastic
and other guest speaker was Grant Elliott. Great man, here's
something that will blow your mind. You know, when Grant
Elliott pulled Dale Stain over long on for sex to

(02:40):
put New Zealand into the final of the twenty fifteen
Cricket World Cup.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Great moment.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
You remember that moment. Yes, this is going to blow
your mind. On Monday, that'll be ten years since that moment.
No way, ten years. Ten years from Monday. That's that's
when that happened. That time has gone incredibly fast. Anyway.
So hosting this awards, and because it's a New Green

(03:06):
there are energy solutions company nice. So I got this
nice olive green jacket to wear.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
I saw it betiful pants as well.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah yeah. And so I arrive and then the Grant
Elliott arrives. He's got the exact same jacket from the
exact same people.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
That wasn't planned.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
And then the director of the company New Green arrives,
Great New Zealander called Neil Walker. He turns up he's
got the exact same jacket. So there's a bit where
I do my introduction, you know, and then we had
a Q and A with the three of us sitting
on stage and our matching jackets. Awkward, it was. It
was humiliating, but at the same time we bonded over it.

(03:49):
And you know there's you know, the Herey Jabb Grant Elliott.
He's a he's a good looking man, so you don't
want to be wearing the same clothes as him. He's
literally the shape of a heary jack. He's saw and handsome.
He could be the new James Bond. So you know,
I didn't look quite as good beside him. But three
of the same jackets, so.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
It was effectively like the Masters with all in your
nice shiny green jacket.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Lot a lot like that, although they are a bit
sort of more matt than that. We've all been to
three wise Men and got our jackets. Yeah, yeah, are
you going to bring it back? It's a bold choice
of green jacket that makes my eyes pop, so I'll
probably be wearing it all the time. Fairy cuts right
on to today's show after three o'clock, as we always
do on a Friday.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
We've got New Zealander of the Week in a special
winner this week.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah, as I've just I've had having a little look
at who the New Zealand the Week is and I've
got to say this that this is a good one,
well deserved. I'm excited to announce that after after three
o'clock and just so you know, the Matt and Tyler
Afternoons New Zealand of the Week is the most prestigious
New Zealand of the Week, New Zealand the year. Whatever,
our one is the one to watch the other ones.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
Yeah, without a doubt, no one's questioning that. We've also
got topical tunes as well. Just after three point thirty,
that's where Matt and I each beck a theme of
the week, a song related to a theme of the week,
and the first two three votes takes it out. We
also want to have a chat about there's a story
in the BBC that having two bathrooms savings on the BBC.

Speaker 7 (05:08):
The BBC.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
It's come out of the BBC. It would have been
in the BBC at some stage, but it was on.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
The page of the BBC.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah, I know, I'm just jumping in before the text
machine jumps in.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Tyler. If you want to have a got my grammar,
you're more than welcome nine to nine two. But the
story is about multiple bathrooms. Apparently that is the way
that you can save a marriage if you have two bathrooms,
one for him one for her. Now, before you think,
well that's very elite whom you know who has enough
bathrooms for one per person in a household. But we
want to take at a slightly different angle.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
I think it's weak that we need more than one bathroom.
I'm looking for a new house at the moment and
the number of bathrooms is key, and I'm looking at
some there's four bathrooms, three bathrooms, two bathrooms. What happened
to one bathroom? That's all you need? One bathroom? Was
so obsessed with bathrooms? Now, how much time do you
spend in the bathroom? If you need more than one

(05:58):
bathroom in a house, you're spending too much time in
the bathroom. When I was growing up on the far
we had one outside toilet freeze ago back then that
was on the that was on the hell's outside Dunedin
Blueskin Bay, freezing cold. And we had one bathroom with
a wooden seat and you had to be wooden because
otherwise it was too cold when you sit down and

(06:20):
you could stick to it. One bathroom. Now now, now,
not only this, tyler, you're suggesting, not an on sweet,
but his and hers on sweets. Yeah, yeah, too many bathrooms.

Speaker 8 (06:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
There you go, New.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
Zellan plumbing makes you're absolutely weak. You're just a long
drop is all?

Speaker 2 (06:34):
You need?

Speaker 9 (06:35):
A lot?

Speaker 2 (06:35):
How special are we? And pampered are we? And he
under ten mattresses? Are we princesses that we need that
many bathrooms?

Speaker 3 (06:45):
We're going to open that up to you after three o'clock,
after two o'clock. Horsey haircuts are all the rage at
the moment, and it's caused a bit of a stir
at Nelson College, my alma martyr, actually, but we want
to ask the question. So the horsey haircut, if you
don't know, effectively, it's like some sort of Moulay style.
It looks like a horse's mate and usually they blenched

(07:06):
the top of it. It's disgusting.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yes, basically what you have, You know, you trimm to
get a sweet fade up the side and then the
top comes back and that's short, and then out the
back you'll have a long pony's tail that'll be bleached.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
Gross.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Often it's an abomination, but that's what young men are
going for at the moment. Teenage boys are trying to
have the worst possible haircut as they can, and you know,
you see it in you know, up and coming professional athletes.
They go for the most horrific possible look they possibly can,
and then you'll see their female friends walking around just

(07:44):
absolutely glamorous and well turned out, and then the guys
are just leaning into being terrible, which I support. But schools.
Schools make the rules. If Nelson College doesn't like those
horses and they say they don't want them, then you
don't get to have them. That's the way it works,
all right.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
We're going to expand on that after two o'clock because
right now, let's have a chat about unstaffed petrol stations
Z Energy. They are looking to get into the cut
price fuel market with these unstaffed stations. They're calling them
you Go and they are planning to have twenty five
of these you Go stations by July this year, which
isn't too far away. Nine will be converted from Caltech

(08:22):
sites that they purchased in twenty twenty three, and fifteen
will be converted from z sites. So it's trying to
compete with the lunks of gaul Y Tomo. Some of
those other MPD slightly different because they MPD have got
into the shop game now, but they started off unstaffed.
But the question we want to throw out there is
something that upsets you a little bit, MANE.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
I just don't like the removal of humans from our lives.
And look, I understand they have to make a profit
and they'll make the decisions and if people go there,
then I guess it's proven right. But there's just a
removal of humans across the board. And you know, these
are the entry level jobs that people get, you know,
when they're starting off, the young people get into work.
They work at a service station. It's been much talked

(09:04):
about on the show. I went through a drive through
and was taken by a robot. It was an AI
order takering and I was like, I don't like this experience.
Put some zitty little kid in there after school running it.
That's that's how society has to work. It's the same
with the you know, the q QR codes to order

(09:25):
your food at a restaurant. That's lazy. I want I
want people. I want to have as many interactions with
people in my life. So I guess the question I
want to ask on I eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.
Do you care if you get to interact with people
or is it just price inconvenience for you. I mean,
some people don't want to interact with people at all.
They hate interactions. But I think being not interacting people

(09:48):
with people leads to more not interacting with people, if
you know what I'm saying. And where do you want
to actually deal with people? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (09:56):
You know?

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Or do you do you not care? Because then, of
course back in the day, back in the day, you
see it on any you know, any film set in
the fifties, there's someone coming out in in a white
jacket and they're setting up your car and they're following
the viatrol quarter tint and checking your oil, wiping your window.
I mean, that was great. Obviously we don't care about
that enough for it to be worthwhile service stations keeping

(10:18):
that on. But I know that, you know, recently I
was sort of dealing with my mortgage and and the bank.
You know, it's like the guy that dealt with my
mortgage was here, gone, I'm not sure where he's gone.
Even the bank was gone, the bank didn't exist anymore,
you know. Yeah, So I think there's just this is
something and you know, people used to know their bank

(10:38):
manager and they could explain their situation, and they know
things over time. Do you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 10 (10:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (10:43):
I agree? And the one I'm thinking about self service
checkouts at the supermarket sometimes that it is a very easy,
convenient way to do your shopping, but it's quite a
cold experience, and without a word of a lie, I
am going back to actually dealing with the person at
the checkout because now for me, it's something nice about that.
I can have a weird chat if I'm feeling up,
if I'm feeling chetty, I can ask them how their
day's going, just be polite. There's a nice feeling about

(11:05):
it where the old self service and same with the
unstuff pitch was, it's cold.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Do you know what I like doing? I like going
into my dairy and talking to my mate behind the
calendar about cricket. I do that all the time. That's
a lot better for me than a vending machine. Yeah
you know, that's not how I want to get my
stuff from a vending machine. But do you care? And
is it a problem for society going going forward? If
we just cut out the interactions we have with other humans.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
I eight hundred eighty ten eighties and nunder call. Are
we going too far with cutting out these human jobs?
Z as we mentioned, are looking to get into the
unstaffed petrol station game. Love to hear from you and
on your point as well, that is an entry level
job for a lot of our kiwis. It is a
struggle for them to find jobs in this current market.
So there is taking jobs away from our children.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Would you be willing to go as far? I want
to put this call out to people on eight one
hundred and eighty ten eighty nine two nine two to
boycott places that move away from humans towards robots.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
Good question, Would.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
You be willing to wait?

Speaker 3 (12:03):
Hundred ac ten eighty is the number to call the
phone lines of lit Up if you want to send
a text through more than welcome nine to nine two
and we will endeavor to read that out at seventeen
past one.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and
everything in between. Matt and Tayler Afternoons with the Volvo
XC ninety attention to detail and a commitment to comfort
news talk.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
ZB Good afternoon, twenty past one. Are we going too
far with the jobs that are now being automated. This
is on the back of Z Energy getting into all
Z Energy, because I know the tech's going to come
through with saying Z like an American.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Z Energy going into these what are you doing?

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Hey, I'll watch a lot of American TV.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
It's good. Give me the alphabet A b CD E.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
If we've got any listeners left.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Hi, JKLMNOP qrs t u v w x y z Z.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
That's it doesn't rhyme when you're.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
One of those kids that thought that there was a
type of p called an alamnop.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Yeah, it's great man.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah, oh yeah, that is a band. Yeah obviously, but
I remember asking my teacher once an al amenop was
as opposed to a normal rules off.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
The tongue almop.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
Right back to so, Z Energy are getting into unstaffed
petrol stations and they're going full hole. They are planning
twenty five they're calling it you go service stations by July,
and nine will be converted from Celtech sites, fifteen will
be converted from Z sites. It's going to cost people jobs,
as you can expect around about ten to twelve people

(13:33):
at those petrol stations may be made redundants.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah, but I don't want to just have it go
at z because you know, they've got to make it.
They've got to make their profit how they want to
make their profit or how they think they will. But
it's just across the board generally, the removal of humans,
I don't think it's a good thing. I think you
are happier in life the more humans that you interact
with in the day, not just friends and family and workmates,

(13:57):
but just the people you say hello hello to. If
you've got a local service station that you go to,
when you start to know the person that works there,
then I think that's good in life. The dairy, the
people that work there. We go to a cafe every
day and they never remember your name, Tyler, No I
remember mine.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
I live and hope I live in hope that one
day they'll remember.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
But you know that that would be That's so much
better than just going to an automated coffee machine and
setting an automated cheese gone. You know what, I'm saying
that the interaction between humans are important, and I think
we need to protect that.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
It's a bit of an oxymoron self service. There's not
much service in just going and doing it yourself.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Is there. Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is
the number to call share all your thoughts on this.

Speaker 6 (14:35):
Hi.

Speaker 11 (14:35):
Hello, Yes, I'm very disappointed to hear that news for
a few reasons, a couple of them being help and safety.
My husband used to work at a said station and
the learnings he had to do and the modules he
had to do to be able to even start working
at that job. Now, when it comes to help and safety,
I'm I would have concerned what happens if there's a spell?

(14:56):
You know that you know that you're putting the pump
in and the fetus all come out. Who's who's going
to be cleaning that up? How do you sort that out?
There's all those types of health and safety issues as well.
I'm not trying to push help and safety. Why I'm
trying to stay is there's things that logically, if we
go up to the petro station, we have an accident
with the pump, it runs everywhere.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
Who do we call?

Speaker 11 (15:16):
There's someone to call to help fix it up, help
clean it up, get quite the things that you need
to actually, like a spell kit something like that.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yeah. So I mean that's the thing across the board
with the removing of people, and you get that a
lot now where you try and solve a problem with
the company and you either get that annoying chatbot that
appears in the corner that can't answer a single question,
or you email or whatever you try and work it out,
and you can never get a human to talk to,
whereas a human is actually the best way, Cheryl, would

(15:46):
you agree to sort out of it?

Speaker 11 (15:48):
I mean, and I'm a sales rep and I'm on
the road all day, five days a week, and I
must admit I use the the service stations particularly too
also for bathroom reasons. I use it to buy food,
hot coffees, ding. I'm just really surprised they want to
do that, because that's how they make the little extra

(16:08):
was with buying the little chocolate bars and stuff. But
it's also it's quite it's quite a big sintot to
just suddenly turn around and just say that. I'm more
annoyed if I'm going to be paying money for you guys,
you're going to be giving me some sort of service,
and you know your helping and as I say, the
help and safety is a big one. And what's happening?
Who do you ring? Because in that moment you need

(16:30):
to help in that moment something's gone wrong with the pumps.
You can't get it out, you can't get it to work.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
It's a very good point to be honest. Yeah, do
you miss the gas station attendance? You know when we
had the day and it wasn't that long ago, whether
they'd come out and say good afternoon or good morning?
Can I fill that up?

Speaker 8 (16:46):
Well?

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Was it z that? Actually? Didn't they push that recently?

Speaker 4 (16:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (16:51):
With the people that brought that back, wouldn't they briefly?

Speaker 12 (16:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (16:54):
I don't miss that quite so much. But I do
love the interaction I have with the people I meet
when I go into the station and things like that,
and we can talk and to hi, and I like
to say how I like my cup of teammate, you know,
just those those things. But it's just just get some
upe knows that you spend so much time with the
modules and whatnot, and there so particular about their help

(17:14):
and safety training and whatnot. And then that's that they're happy.
I know that there are other stations that do that,
but it's just I suppose annoying me that they've just
you know, so this is what we're going to do.
They're not going to maybe listen to any feedback from people.
And how many are they going to get rid of?
You know, it might be x amount now.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
But are they going to be Well, that's what I'm
worried about, Cheryl, I think what's going to happen is
they're looking at ways to get rid of everyone across
the border minutes. Whenever you can find, you know, friction
in the system that you can remove, then that you
know that that leads to increased profits, you you'd hope
that they do that. But the friction that they always
remove from these systems is humans basically, so you get

(17:54):
less and less interactions with real humans. We seem to
be the bit that people want out of the system.

Speaker 11 (18:01):
That's predicted. I'm beginning to say, I'm begin to think
we're up since this COVID thing and everything where all
the everyone's even been redundant. You're getting lost or the
staying at home, or it's like with the hell is
everyone now? You know, if we don't getting ourself back
to some sort of normality or a better normality than
what we've got, well, you know, we're just gonna not
going to have anyone hanging around to the torture.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Yeah right, Well, we're going to create our own little
quiet Earth. Yeah, great movie with Bruno Lawrence. You've seen it.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
Terrifying. No, yeah, a great movie, but it wasn't that
good for Bruno, was it.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
We'll create a situation we're all walking around our own
little quiet Earth.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Just on this text here are you guys serious? Self
service petrol stations have been around for years and then
it goes on to see when was there an accident
at these self service stations?

Speaker 2 (18:45):
I mean text, Now, there's not a single person that's
saying that self service stations are new. Yeah, I mean
that's not what we're saying. We're talking about a broader
movement to more and more self service across the the
the whole spectrum of the economy, and just recently these
ones have been announced. So No and ZIB prided themselves

(19:08):
you're you're not special because you've noticed self service stations
before we did.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
And zed who are the ones that are looking to
do these unstaffed petrol stations. They prided themselves on when
they came into the market of being all about human
service to its customers, and now they want to change
that by the sounds of it, So thank you for
your text. Nineteen to nine two. By the way, oh eight,
one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
We'll take get to a few more of your call surely.
Twenty seven past one.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the Mike asking breakfast, we're.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
Out of recession? Q four zero point seven. Are we
on our way?

Speaker 13 (19:41):
The Finance Minister Nikola Willis Wills, does the zero point
seven on GDP give you hope that the tale of
the jobs, which lags, of course, might end a little
bit or peak a little bit sooner than we thought,
or it is what it is?

Speaker 14 (19:53):
Well, we have seen the forecasts for unemployment coming off
a little bit since we came to government. As you've seed,
employment is the last thing to recover when an economy
goes through a time like New Zealand has. The forecasts
are that it will peak halfway through the year and
then it's going to keep beisa in the second half
of a year. That's consistent with what I'm seeing in
the economy.

Speaker 13 (20:13):
Back Monday from six am, the Mike Hosking Breakfast with
May These Real Estate News Talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
Twenty nine past one.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Look, I think we can we're getting a lot of
texts on this. We can put the safety side of
these self service service stations aside. You know, the pumps
do have you know, cut off points, but there's never
been a problem at them. And it's not particularly these
the petrol stations we're talking about, because you know, you're
obviously at the pump. You've been self serviced for a

(20:40):
very long time. You know, it's been a long time
since someone came out and put the petrol into your car.
But I still think about it in terms of the
person that's in there that you can go and buy
your Morrow bar off and your gum. And if you're
Tyler used vape, you know, that's just a job that's
that's disappearing, you know more and more, you know, and look,

(21:02):
they're still going to be around, and I get that,
and I just see people in low level jobs, you know,
low in entry level jobs, just disapairings across a number
of sectors.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
And just quickly on that point whether it still exists
or not. But usually they've got a bit of mechanical
expertise behind the counter. Right that if you've got a
low level problem with your car, it's nice to go
in there and say, hey, you know my car is
making a bit of sound, or can you help me
check the oil? They know how to do that. We're
at the robot.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
I think it's funny when you get your LPG bottle swapped.
How they have to put on the white coat to
do it. Yeah, and then but you don't carry it
into the car exactly have to put on their little
white jacket. This text sums up about a whole lot
of people that think in the world today that I
find a sort of a disgusting view that some people have.
I hate dealing with people, says this text. People are

(21:50):
the problem. People are destroying the planet. The less people
I have to see, the better, So yes to self surface.
These people that hate people. I think if you're a
person that people that hate people used to be seen
as bad, but now people celebrate people that hate people.
It's the extinctionalist extinctionalists versus the humanists, right, That's the thing.

(22:10):
So some people see humans as just a cancer on
the planet that's destroying the planet, and they see human
interaction as a horrible thing that they can't stand, like
they're looking into the sun or something. But I'm like,
what's the point in the earth that it doesn't have people?
I mean, we are social creatures. We need to see
other people. We're better when we're around other people. If

(22:32):
you drop one human into a forest, you'll have a
dead human pretty soon into the jungle. You drop five in,
you've got an apex. Spreadit. We're better, we're better together.
So this kind of stuff. And also if there aren't
humans here, who cares what the earth's like? Beautiful Earth
without humans, Panda bears and polar bears, they can't write.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Poetry exactly, going back to quiet Earth. But yeah, I
guarantee if that person, if you go live in a
log cabin for six months, you'll be crying out for
human interaction. Guarantee it.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Yeah, absolutely, But thank you very much for that text.
I'm going bad person, person person.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Right. We are a bit late, so headlines with ray
Lean coming up. Then we've got chocker block phone line,
so we'll get to plenty of your calls. If you
want to send a text, more than welcome nine to
ninety two in the number oh one hundred and eighty
ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Youth talks.

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of significant criticism from China as New Zealand aims to
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has said on social media, it hardly serves your best
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damaging another. Foreign Minister Winston Peters, has been in the
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Find out more at enzid Herald Premium. Now back to
matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
Thank you very much, Ray Lana. We've asked the question
have we gone too far into self service? Been manned
by robots for lack of a better words, you know,
the self service at the supermarket. But it's on the
back of z Energy that are getting into what they
are calling the cut price fuel market with Yugo, which
are unstaffed. Stations are starting with twenty five, but there

(25:02):
is a potential. They've got one hundred and twenty three
Celtech stations that they purchased in twenty twenty three. There
is a potential for all of those one hundred and
twenty three coltexs to be turned into unstuffed.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Do you care if you get to interact with a
person or is it just price and convenience? And where
do you not want to deal with people? And where
do you do you want to this Texas is unmanned?
How sixist? Yeah? I see right?

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Okay?

Speaker 8 (25:26):
Right?

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Unpersoned? Then does that make you feel a bit better?

Speaker 2 (25:29):
No? Actually, one personed I do like it because it
sounds more evil. Yeah, so unpersoned sounds.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Like you very robot turn a phrase.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Hey guys, there are possibly a few motivating factors, cost saving,
staff leasing, and product cost. Ram raids. No one is
going to ram rate a self service station. Percent of
people just want pump and to get their next disk
to their next in this genit sorry destination. And the
other one percent are the ones holding up the Q
chatting about the weekend costco has one person manning the station. Yeah,

(25:59):
and look, I'm not hassling ZiT about it. I mean
there is definitely commercial reasons for it. And you know,
the minimum wage is quite high. And you know when
I'm talking about you know drive throughs, you know fast
food drive throughs, when they are reply how they're replacing
those with AI taking your order. I don't like it.
It's dehumanizing, but you can see, you can see why

(26:21):
companies are trying to cut cross on it. But I
just wonder if people are going to move away from it,
if they're going to if we if we could start
a movement towards people people being back into these entry
level jobs, because I just don't like a future where
we all just go around and don't interact with other humans,

(26:41):
and there's no job for the sixteen year old that
needs to start off exactly in a fast food fast
food restaurant or working in a super station.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
You know, I feel it's generally happening though, you know,
on the rise of social media and the lives that
we live in the digital front, I think there is
a big pushback on a lot of these things saying
we need that connection again, we need to go back
to actually being humans.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Well, what Bob says here, you take people out, you
take the wages they spend in the community a way
as well, making the towns poorer. Enough firms do that,
no one will buy anything and we will all die
of starvation.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
That they took a turn. But yeah, you're quite right. Oh,
one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to
call Richard.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 16 (27:22):
Thank you very much. Guys. Look, I'm going to put
a plugin for you and zib not so that you'll
keep me on a bit longer. But it's a chance
for me to say, look, I think the Zby's talkbackstation
is the best ever. We get all the world news
or almost as it's happening. You turn on television and
the next day and you'll get yesterday's news on if
they can bother putting it on. I think you're all tremendous. Now,

(27:45):
look I'm going to ring up about this. Carry on
because I'm all on your side. I get infuriated everywhere
I go as machines. Now, I went into a bank
of news cdent here in Blenheim recently bill for a company.
There was nobody in sight at all except about six
machines lined up. So I went round and looked for somebody,
and finally somebody came out the door and said, I'll

(28:06):
do it for you. Well, he couldn't even work the machine.
It spewed out the money yet again. And I was
there for twenty two minutes. If someone had been at
the counter, I could have walked up, paid the bill
and been gone. You go to airports, they point you
to a machine. You go to supermarkets, they point you
to a machine. I go into my own bank and

(28:27):
I said I'd like to pay this. She said I
can do it outside of the machine. I said, no,
I've come and to see you. It's the most And
when I go back to the United Kingdom quite a
lot to see my family. You stand at Heathrow Airport
of vast Terminal three, huge, the thousands of people all
around the world trying to work the machines. There's more
staff doing it for them. And I just looked around

(28:48):
the end and saw oh, Singapore Airlines down and I
went back and said to the woman, can you put
my bags or and she did it in about a second.
It is getting so stupid and I will never go
to a service station that has those gadgets. And when
I go to the supermarket, I always queue up. If
it's nothing more the loaf of bread, quite happy to

(29:08):
queue up. And I've noticed lately there's more people using
the assistance at the supermarket than the machine. Well, bloody nuisance.
They're a complete and utter waste of time. Yesterday I
went to a petrol station. Some smart woman and a
very smart car leapt out with her cell phone pressed buttons.
After she to pay for the petrol. I went in

(29:30):
and paid for the petrol. She was still trying to
work it out, and then she gave up and went
in and paid for it.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Thank God.

Speaker 16 (29:35):
It's the silliest thing in the world. And it's an
obsession with people like toys. And I get quite irate
about it because I had another go this morning about
paying a bill. So I then rang up the company
and you know what I got. Your call is important
to us, Press one. If you want something, press too,
And I was there for twenty minutes. It's an obsession

(29:58):
with gadgets and machines that actually are not saving anything
at all, and they're putting.

Speaker 17 (30:04):
People out of work.

Speaker 16 (30:05):
As you guys said, and I agree with you, well well.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Said that was beautiful.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
Yeah, the passion and bang on Richard, absolutely. And the banks,
you're right, I mean it's pretty difficult to get into
a bank if you're working a nine to five. Good
luck to you because a lot of them are close
on the weekend. And as he mentioned, with the old
self service check out at the supermarket, yeah, that's why
I've changed and going back to an actual human being
at the supermarket, which is just figure.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Well, I've seen, you know, around the world people are
pulling out those self service situation in supermarkets because it
causes a whole lot of problems. It wasn't actually saving
anyone money really, and wasn't bringing loyalty because if you're
a supermarket, right, and someone's loyal to your supermarket, that's
money from that person over a lifetime, over a very
long time, because people get loyal to a place, and

(30:51):
so you can make a lot of money off a
person for a long time if they have some kind
of connection to you, and you're less likely to make
a connection to a place if you're having to check
your own stuff out. Hi, guys, I think z is
onto something. The less we have to do with the
dirty side is the better of the outside.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
Who was the outsider? That's what human means?

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Is that like lost?

Speaker 3 (31:11):
That's interesting, great show until the last few seasons.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yeah, I'm terrified by that.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
Text one hundred eighteen ten eighty is the numbered call
nine two nine till it's the text number. It is
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Speaker 7 (31:23):
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Speaker 1 (31:27):
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Speaker 3 (31:33):
News talk said, be good afternoon. We're talking about the
rise of unstaffed service. This is on the back of
Zen Energy that are looking to have unstaffed petrol stations
along with gull and y Tomo. But Zen Energy always
prided themselves on having that extra human service. And it's
not just petrol stations, it's across the boards.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Well, you know, there's different ones that work out better
than others. You know, like, for example, laundromats for a
long time have been unstaffed and that kind of makes sense.
Well some of them, you know, it's actually quote you know,
actually I take that back. It's awesome. I used to
drive my laundry off to a dry cleanness. Yeah, and
that was great because then it comes back folded. Anyway,

(32:15):
totally agree with your views. However, you have to say
the airport check in Kiosks and the bag drop is
a much better system, no waiting and pointless lines. Yeah,
I mean that is a pretty good That is an
example of it making things a little bit better because
I don't know, check in is not a place where
you really get quality time with the person.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
You're not there for a chat. If you're there for
a chat, that you're upsetting you.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
And I'd say in New Zealand particularly does well with
having someone you know perusing around if there is a
problem for you. Hello, Matt and Tyler, what a topic.
If everything is about making the bottom line big so
the shareholders can get their millions out. Then auto service
is what is going to be driving. I see, I
so agree with you that there is no longer work

(32:57):
for getting New Zealand experience worth ethics and letting people
learn basic skills before they get into the next role.
I think we should have a lower minimum wage and
an age restriction. Fifteen to Twine, no money for them
to spend in the economy and can't help pay towards
their student loans.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
In my opinion, interesting idea about having an age restriction
for those lower level jobs.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
What's a sort of a Logan's run situation when you're
twenty one you kicked out of the service dage?

Speaker 3 (33:24):
Yeah, yeah right. Nine two ninety two is the text number.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
We'll go to Doogley, Google, Sorry, We'll go to n
sorry and welcome you show your thoughts.

Speaker 12 (33:38):
Yes, you wanted to tell you now, I love.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
You to tell us now.

Speaker 12 (33:41):
Ed Okay, it's a long time since I've had two
toddlers and a baby and two boys and girl. If
well I had to go and leave the car and
go in and pay or do anything, the boys would
have kicked up. Hell, the child would be screening. It's

(34:02):
just nobody's thinking about the young mother. You can't just
leave your children, and nowadays I think it's even more
dangerous than when it was in my days. So what
do you think of that? I mean, that's explain you can't.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Do in what situation exactly?

Speaker 12 (34:19):
And sorry, well, if you if you have to go
inside to pay and do that sort of thing, you
have to believe outside your two young sons and the baby,
and they usually come back to find one fit the
other and the baby screaming. And that's what I found anyway.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Maybe, so you would prefer it in terms of a
service station situation, you'd prefer to just be able to
pay at the pump.

Speaker 12 (34:45):
And yeah, of course, and I reckon a lot of
the young mothers even nowadays would prefer it too, because
I think risks things happening to them. The other people
are more clear now.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yeah, well think if you're call and I mean yeah,
I mean there's a lot of service stations that also
have someone working in and they have a barista inside
and you can buy sandwiches and drinks and stuff inside,
and also if you want to pay out out and
about yeah, I think that's going.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
In the car by yourself, you know, get into all
sorts of trouble.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Yeah, I don't know. I mean, is there a rising
tide of people stealing your kids? If you leave them
out in the in the well, you're going to pay?
If that's the case, that's gone under the radar about that?
You do those situations where someone steals the car and
doesn't realize there's a baby in the back, and then
you know, and that has to sheeperlessally return the car.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
Do you leave your keys in the car when you
got to pay?

Speaker 8 (35:37):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (35:39):
No, sometimes I do. No, I do not. All right, doogle?
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 18 (35:46):
Yeah are there? Look I just heard you talking. I'm
previously about about how they when they first came on board,
they they tried to get that self service thing. I remember,
back in the seventies and even earlier than that, you'd

(36:07):
follow up at the service station. You'd say, I want
twenty dollars worth of petrol. You sit in your car,
they'd fillow up, check your tires, wash your windscreen, check
your oil, and then you were wondwn your window and
hand them a twenty dollar bill and drive off. I
was just thinking, I mean, there was a lot of

(36:29):
trust there too. You know that the service station, our
owners or managers or whoever they were at the time,
trusted the attendant, then they was going to put that
money in the till. Just imagine that that service now.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah, well there wasn't There wasn't CCTV to check that
they weren't just putting it in their pocket.

Speaker 18 (36:49):
Oh, there's none of that no, So you know, I'm
just saying we seemed to be living in a world
now with his there's not a lot of trust anymore. Yeah, Yeah,
that's that's.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
Sort of the world changed, which is Yeah, which is unfortunate,
isn't it, Because it was not I mean I wasn't
around when you could do that literally hand them the
twenty dollar bill and go on your way. But the
four court attendant was a nice thing. When they come
out and say, good afternoon, good morning, Can I check
your oil? Can I do your wind screen?

Speaker 2 (37:15):
That was just nice. Well, I think part of the
reason why that has gone is you don't have to
check your oil as much. Cars needed the oil change
a lot more frequently than modern cars, so getting your
oil checked was something you wanted to happen as often
as possible.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Yeah, very true right, coming up very shortly, we're gonna
have a chat to the AA about all this.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
It is eight to.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Two matteath Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight Matt
and Taylor afternoons with the Volvo XC ninety tick every box,
a seamless experience awaits news talks.

Speaker 8 (37:50):
That'd be.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Well, right, DEVI chat about this.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
We're joined by Terry Collins, Principal advisor at the AA. Terry,
very good afternoon to.

Speaker 4 (37:58):
Youod morning, Matte afternoon, Sorry Matte, that's Anon Tyler.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
So Terry, do numbers suggest that consumers here, whether the
sivice stations got a human assistant there or not.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
Well, I'll tell you that this is quite a ironic. Goal.
When they first came into the country and set up
these no service or service stations had something that became
known as the Gull effect. That was, the fuel was
always cheaper in the vicinity of a Goal service station
that created copycat picked with similar model Way Tomo, Allied

(38:33):
and a couple of other MPD ironically Z owned Goal
up until about three years ago when they had to
sell it because the Australian company of Celtics was buying
it and they didn't want to monopoly position. So what
we've got Z doing now is going back to what
it had originally a few years pick these low cost models.
So yes, of all the service stations, the kind of

(38:56):
ownership that's been increasing, it's been the small, no service
or low service operators. Cheaper to bill, cheaper to operate,
and they work on volume.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
And does will you see noticeable cut and petrol prices
at these places?

Speaker 4 (39:13):
Well, but we're competing for volume, so we know that
the likes of North Hamilton, which has got a high
density of these service stations using that model, they are
the cheapest in the country. I heard some of the
listeners going on about no, we want to have staff
and we want to contribute in the jobs.

Speaker 8 (39:28):
If there anything like me.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
When I go buy petrol, I buy go to a
petrol station. When I buy shoes, I go to a
shoe shop, and when I want pie, I go to
a pie shop. So all I'll do has when I
stop a lot for the cheapest price somewhere, then I'll
go to the caf hitting a break, having a coffee,
hit my sandwich. The Z would have lost that revenue.
If you go to the nose films ones. But on
the other side, the CAF that I go to is

(39:50):
going to benefit from the spending that I'm going to
transfer from the service station to the KF.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yeah, good point, Terry, very true.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
That is a great discussion. Terry, Thank you very much
for your time this afternoon. Really appreciate it. That is
Terry Collins, Principal advisor at the AA, And thank you
for all the phone calls and texts. That was a
great discussion.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
In the end, I say humans rule, Let's get more
of them. Let's choose places with people because we want
the entry level jobs and we want to make more
friends where we can.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
Absolutely coming up, let's have a chat about haircuts in schools.
A bit of kafuffle at Nelson College over what they
calling the Horsey haircut. Oh eight, one hundred and eighty
ten eighty is the number to call.

Speaker 7 (40:26):
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Speaker 1 (40:30):
It's Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams Afternoons with the Volvo XC
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Speaker 3 (40:37):
Good afternoon, Welcome into the show. Seven pass two. It
is Friday afternoon. Always feel good on a Friday. Now,
this topic is going to be an absolute doozy a
popular hairstyle known as the Horsey could face the chop
at an all boys school looking too smarten up its students.
The parent of a Nelson College student contacted the local
rag to say her son was concerned as horsey a

(41:00):
portion of here on the back of the head left
to grow long, could be under threat from a band.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
I'll tell you what, So parents that worry about their
haircuts being under threat from a band, get out of it.
Get out of it. The school makes the rules. Just
I always that we've had these things where people take
schools to court for this kind of thing. If the
rule is no horsey haircut, then that's it. Worry about
other things with your kid. But the horsey haircut is

(41:28):
an abomination, obviously. But I think that's the point, right.
I think the reason why a lot of young boys
get these haircuts now is not to look good, but
to really make a statement on how bad they look.
And I think it's a reaction to Instagram, because you know,
there's so much fakeness going on Instagram and social media
and TikTok. There's so many fake people going around and
trying to look beautiful. I think, you know, there's an

(41:50):
equal opposite reaction, where boys are trying to look almost
stupid to make it work. So the horsey. If you
haven't seen this haircut, you know you've got your sweet
fade up the side and the back. You've got a
bit of length across the top, and then you've got
a huge long growth down the back, often bleached like
a pony's tail, but not tied up because the ponytail

(42:13):
has as planted as I don't really know how it works,
so this just hangs long. It's like a thin mullet
down the back.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
It's a wild stallion look rather than a dress arge pony.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's an abomination, but I
think that's the point.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
Yeah, I mean, I think you're right that when it
comes to young boys, primarily they are so cool that
they look as rugged as possible as that I'm so
cool that I don't care what.

Speaker 7 (42:33):
I look like like.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
In fact, oh look as stupid as I can, because
I'm that cool.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
My mate had a party around at his house and
it was a bunch of seventeen year olds. His daughters
was having a party. There was eighty kids there and
he said all the girls turned up first and they
it'd spent a lot of time getting ready, and they
looked amazing. He was going, my god, the amount of
effort that's put into today compared to what it was.
And then he said, all the boys turned up and

(42:57):
they were just geez, they were scarm horrible pants, horrible shirts,
horrible here and that's what was celebrated. Yeah, you know,
I'm proud of that horrific bum flush fluff mustache, and
that was they were going for so good on them.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
So we're going to open up the phone lines to
this about hair styles at schools. Two schools have the
right to say what sort of hair styles are okay
at a particular college. Now just go on to say,
because I know you're hot on this, Matt. That the
Nelson College principal, Richard Washington, he was a bit amused
when the local rad gave him a call. Horsey wasn't
a team, a term that he had heard before. But

(43:35):
he went on to say, we are looking at tidying
up uniforms and facial hair and hairstyles. We're bringing back
making boys look sharp while keeping individuality. He acknowledged the
fine line between enforcing rules and the need for self
expression and young people still growing in their identities.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
Yeah, I mean someone was saying that they're worried that
they can't express themself with their haircut. Who key is
just hard en up. You'd have to express yourself every week,
everywhere year go. I mean, there's ways to express yourself.
But the school has the rule. And the reason why
schools have rules, right, is because you need a blanket
amount of rules. Some of these skills like three thousand
kids in them. Now, my kids go to a school

(44:11):
with over three thousand kids in them, right, And so
if you just if you just let anything go, then
everything goes. So it's it's thought out. It's the same
reason why there's so many rules on planes. It's because
if you're fighting on these little rules and then and
then you're not trying to jump out the window. You know,
you know, you know that you know the battle. There's
something in humans and where we fight lines, right, Yeah,

(44:34):
So if you put lines and they're on the haircut,
then people will have a little bit of haircut there,
a little bit of a back and forth there, and
that's where where the battle is. Battle is fought where
it doesn't mean so much, right.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
Give them an inch, they'll take a mile and yeah,
you might be quite right when it comes to young men.
But and when I was at Nelson College, no, it's
no doubt you weren't allowed harsees or mullets or power
fringes or rat tails. There was none of that sort
to carry on. But the more I look about look
at this story, I think, if this kid is doing
well academically, and he's doing well in sport, and he
dresses well with the uniform, he's tucked in, his socks

(45:04):
are pulled up, he's got the right shoes, he's got
the right blazer on there was.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
With Wee Horsey. Yeah, I guess so. But that's the
role of the school. And if you're a parent, going
my kid needs to, you know, represent himself and express
himself with a haircut that is just an imitation of
other people. It's not like he's come up with the haircut.
It's a fashionable haircut of the day. So he needs
to express himself with the fashionable haircut of the day.
Then who cares where cry about it?

Speaker 3 (45:30):
Because it's his tribe though, wasn't it. He wants to
be a part of the crew, that's his weed tribe.
They've all got their horsey haircuts together, and that's his team.
If he can't have the harsy haircut, then he can't
be part of the team.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Canning. This is a this is This explains the haircut
much better than I could have. This text just came
through on nine two nine two. I just had to
google the horse cut. It's a mullet with fades. That's
exactly what it is. Yeah, Nowson school has to get
over themselves. I would have thought schools have more to
worry about than a haircut. By attendance, new curriculum, loss
of RTLB, sport support, getting kids to stop using phones

(46:00):
and smart watches, lack of staff, and they're one on
one other micro management guidelines that the government's putting on
them one a daily basis. Yeah, but that's that's but
that's the way the school chooses to do it. So
the school has to make decisions on how it's going
to run it.

Speaker 10 (46:13):
One.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
It's a school, right and if it says that a horsey,
if they says no to the horsey, then no to
the horsey. You know, it's not hard to run it.
You just go no to the horsey. My son during COVID, right,
he tried to smuggle, and because when they were forcing them,
I can't believe this happened, but they're forcing them with
a you know, face masks to school. He tried to
smuggle as school didn't allow mustaches. He tried to smuggle

(46:35):
a contraband mustache, a contraband bum fluff in their age,
under of his mask. But then they opened a mask inspection.
It was always going to get found out of it.
Eventually he got rumbled with his mustache under the mask. Oh,
and I respected that he tried that. As much as
I believe that the rule the school should have rules
and whatever their rules about their haircut is their role

(46:55):
and they can enforce it and they should enforce it.
I still respect a little bit of a rebellion. And
I respected his attempt to smuggle a contraband mustache into
the school. I respect both sides of it.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
But once he was caught, no fear, cop, you shave
that mo off. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is
the number of call. Do you think that the school
is well within its rights to say no horsey haircuts,
no mullets, no power fringes, no rattails. Whatever the crazy
do that the kids are wearing these days, or as
long as they're doing well academically and the uniform looks

(47:27):
pretty sharp, then they can do whatever the heck they
want to their head.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
This is an interesting text. On nineteen nine two, I
had a comb over at high school. That's unfortunate. Yeah,
sorry about that. Not much we can do about that.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Your new home of afternoon Talk Matt and Taylor Afternoons
with the Volvo XC ninety turn every journey into something special.

Speaker 7 (47:48):
Call oh, eight hundred eighty eight News Talk said.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
Be good afternoon sixteen passed two. Should schools have a
right to tell these students what to do with their hairstyles?
Is on the back of Horsey hairstyles, which are very
popular at the moment.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
It's a mullet with a fade, Yeah, mullet with and
the mullet at the back is bleached. Often are we
going to stop saying Horsey?

Speaker 19 (48:08):
Now?

Speaker 3 (48:08):
I kind of like that.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
All No, no, that's Harsey hiccup. But I'm just describing
it as a test said, it's a mallet with the faith. Yeah,
that's a simple way to describe it. I think I'm
trying to describe. I didn't explain exactly my thoughts before.
There is lines of battle and a school, right, yeah,
and so a school will sit some rules and it
has to set some rules about what people were and
what people here like and whatever, right, and wherever you

(48:32):
move it to, that's where the line of battle is.
So if you allow the horsey, then the line of
battle will change. There will be some other thing that
will be invented to do. Then someone will be like,
I want to come to school without my shirt on,
and then that's the line of the battle. And then
someone's like, I want to come to school with I
don't know, a knife. But as you're saying, you know,

(48:53):
I mean argument escalated. Yeah, but when you are at
high school today, you know this is the text given
and they'll take a mile. Life is full of things
we all have to do that we would rather not.
The sooner people learn this is better. Part of going
to school is learning to follow the rules so you
can progress to function in society. We must learn to
know the difference between right and wrong, follow the law,
and be decent human beings. It's not going to hurt

(49:13):
the boy to cut us here. That's look there you go,
that's that's a that's that's that argument put succinctly.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
But I think we can all agree a perm looks
pretty weird on a feller these days. So what if
a principle this now, now, some principal Richard Washington said
no more perms, No perms are you know, we're not
in the eighties anymore, so shave that perm off?

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Well yeah, I mean if that was the rule of
the school, that's sort of school. They just they make
the lines, they set the battle lines. It's fine. I
had a beautiful mullet, but school Western Heights High absolutely
made me cut a haircut. So being a defiant teacher teenager, sorry,
I got a cut into a rat sale. There you go, Yeah,
but there we go.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
I don't know what's worse a ratstyle or a mullet.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
But that's that's the thing. It's the back and forth
between the students and the teachers. So you know, it's
just a little war, and you want that water to
be happening there rather than on the important thing that's
that's had discipline with.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
Oh one hundred and eighty teen eighties and number to.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
Call Johnny, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 10 (50:15):
How are you going?

Speaker 8 (50:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (50:16):
Good?

Speaker 3 (50:16):
What are you reckon? On this one.

Speaker 10 (50:19):
What do you think? I think? You know, the schools
entitled to make its own rules. And some of these
haircuts i've seen these young men were it's disrespectful to
the horse. It's as simple as it. Then I can't
see how your haircut's going to do any think academically
towards you. So because I was brought up with what's

(50:41):
in your skull that makes it?

Speaker 4 (50:43):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 10 (50:45):
So yeah, when I grew up, there's short baking sides
and fluffy around the years.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 10 (50:50):
And as you got to an age where you're out
of school, out of rules and regulations, then then you
grew your heir, grew dreadlocks, you know what I mean,
going to Bob Marley. So I grew my head dread logs.
But when I was at school, you did exactly what
you were told. And it's nowadays these young people like, OK.
With a guy, young guy, he turned up with work

(51:11):
and I said, who cut you here? He said, oh,
my mate Gee, and my name is Johnny, not Gee.
I don't think I live here in the alphabet. And
I said, what your mate Di did to you? Then
he said you? I said, somebody made you got.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
I like the idea. I like the idea of the
specia turning up at the school and saying, look, you
know those those these this horsey. It's it's affecting the
mental health of the horses. You're walking past them the.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
Way with head complaints from horse people.

Speaker 10 (51:46):
Yeah, you know, it's it's getting ridiculous, That's all I
can say. It's getting absolutely ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
What I find interesting, Johnny, is the parents that backed
the kids up on this. So you know, I mean
I was rebellious at school, and you know, I want
I wore my docks. I was always trying to tack
my school uniform pants into my dock Martin boots that
were up ten ten ten lace up. I was always
trying these things all the time and getting called up.

(52:13):
But the thing is when a parent comes in and says,
I think my kid has the right to wear this
horsey haircut to school, and you're and you're injuring him,
and you're injuring his expression by doing it. That the
parents should never be doing that backing up, you know,
going with your kid against the school on uniform. That's
a really strange message to send in terms of you know,

(52:33):
going forward in your life.

Speaker 10 (52:35):
Exactly exactly what are you telling your talks you can
get away with inarticular, your like songs long as mummys around.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
Yeah, I would take a guess here that that would
be incredibly embarrassing for that kid. Whoever that kid is
with the horsey and mom comes to school say now,
let me tell you, my kid will have a horsey
if he wants mates.

Speaker 10 (52:57):
Like that was terrifying when when I was at school,
they have your parents, you know, it's all over. Yeah,
you're not going to see your mates exactly.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
I think you some for you, cal Johnny. Yeah, I
mean the idea that a parent would go, Look, I
don't know if my kid, if my kid doesn't wear
the current fashionable haircut that all his friends are wearing
right now, then I just don't know if he can
go on. I don't I don't know what it's going
to do to him if he doesn't have this incredibly
rude haircut that everyone's wearing right now for a joke. Yeah,

(53:29):
that's bad parenting.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call. Nine two nine two is the text
number if you want to send a text. It is
twenty two past.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
Two, Matt, Heathan Tayler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty on Youth Talk ZV.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
Good afternoon, twenty four past two, and some great texts
coming through. All on my side, I've got to say, man.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
Ask So your side is that let the horsey here
flow and people can make up their own rules at
school and do what if you want, and you know
that that life will work out beautifully for you. You
see that beautifully schools make the rules. At Sacred Heart College,
we couldn't have a number one or grow a beard
for those who could actually grow. It's about looking smart
and presenting your school in a good manner, along with

(54:14):
committing to polite standards. Do you go, hey, Matt, taser
kids if they look scruffy, you'd be You'd be behind
that when you're tasering scuffery kids.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
Yeah, a taser in every high school might be stick
to you. But I know you love tasers.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
Oh, I like if think about that one. I'm not
sure where I sit on tasering scruffy kids. Okay, right,
Richards your thoughts on haircuts at school?

Speaker 20 (54:40):
I think the schools are missing a trick. There's a
bit of leverage here, and maybe you put something in
your attendance is one hundred percent, you get the haircut
you want or some other behavioral measure, and then the
kids that are doing the business get the haircut. And
if you're not doing the right thing the rest of
the time, you don't get to get your haircut.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
I like that idea, Richard, But you know what that
would mean and this and this would mean the school
would win. Then having the harsy haircut would be and
cool because it would mean that you were the teacher's
pet and as a result, but you're also giving the
release fair. That's sure. You can wear your horsy haircut,
that's fine, but one attendance to get.

Speaker 21 (55:17):
It your choice, Yeah, becomes your.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Choice to you you have it or not. Yeah, and
then you can't then you can't winge about it. Yeah,
that's a good plan. That's actually jous Yeah, Yeah, that's brilliant.
Good things.

Speaker 20 (55:27):
Leverage is parenting teenagers, mate.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Yeah, you're a good negotiator. Good on your Richard.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
Guys, here is part of the uniform. Have your stupid
horsey haircut on the holidays it's about learning about dress codes.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
My boys follow the rules at high school. Short haircut
but not shaved, no facial hair, wear the uniform nicely. However,
our boys still have horrific l packer haircuts. That's from teen.

Speaker 8 (55:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
What is the We're going to have to google it once.
So we've got the horsey, We've got the old packer.
Because you can you can run a broccoli.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
Yeah, the broccoli that's trended over the last few years.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
I'm going to well, yeah, our pair, I guess it
just looks sort of sort of pushing up on the top.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
Oh yeah, yeah, you've seen a lot of our packers around.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
I'm just getting pictures of OL packets. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
the old packet.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
How would you Yeah, it's just like a little bit
of fluff. They're kind of at the top of the head.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
Yeah packer. It's good boy. I tell you what. I
would have got a hiding for turning up to my
high school with an ela the state of it these days,
not from the teachers.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
This one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call, Neil.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
You think.

Speaker 8 (56:43):
A bit of a laugh for me? This one?

Speaker 17 (56:44):
Yeah, you mentioned that due to word perm and some
of your listeners may remember. Yeah, a certain ex all
Black Who've got a while he.

Speaker 18 (56:54):
Was on TV.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
Oh then he was reading the sports that was a
national national scandal with the.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
I'm just going to google that because I need to
see that again. I don't think it lasted. I thought
he though did it. I think he had it for
maybe two days and then shaved it off.

Speaker 17 (57:15):
Yeah, yeah, but anyway, Yeah, just going off the subject. Yeah,
you know, the old haircut rebellion's been around since the
Beatles turned up. You know, the first quarter of reference
to it, the dreadlocks and the long hair and the
FROs and you know, all those things we got influenced
from overseas. And the kids are basically taking the mickey.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Like we yeah, absolutely yeah.

Speaker 8 (57:37):
The horse he.

Speaker 17 (57:37):
Reminds me of again going back in the day, a
basic city rollers haircut coupled with a shllon monk's ponytail.

Speaker 5 (57:44):
Now there you go.

Speaker 19 (57:47):
With that.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
It's interesting how things have changed. I read this book
by this band called The Pretty Things that they toured
New Zealand in the nineteen sixties, and there's a there
was a shot on the front page of the Herald
of the lead singer coming off the plane, and he
had a Beatles haircut like it was kind of maybe
a little bit longer than the Beatles, you know, in
the Robber soul era and on the front page of
the Herald it said, unbelieve, believe this is a man

(58:11):
because it was so out of the ordinary for New
Zealanders for anyone to have a haircut like that.

Speaker 7 (58:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
But yeah, and I agree with you, Neil that those
are the lines of and those are healthy lines of
battle between a school and young people as there and
the students is where they're hearers. That's a good place
for the battle to happen. But the school has to
stand its ground, and it's an ongoing escalating war, you know.
You know we're not allowed, tom you know, you push

(58:39):
it to the limit and you find a way around it,
and you test the limits of the uniform its but
ultimately the school has the same.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
Part of growing up.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
Yeah, thanks for your calling me.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
Quick tikes to you guys. I love the show. We
have four sons, all adults now. We always supported the
school rules and assisted they comply, even on one occasion
when we thought they were a bit harsh. We supported
our son, but insisted they still comply. They're all contributing
law abiding adults now unharmed by compliant haircuts uniform.

Speaker 21 (59:09):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
I'll tell you who's got great here, and he's hopefully
he's playing tonight at Eden Park. Haven't looked at the
teamless but Ration Revender. Oh, he might be running an
ol packer. He's got fantastic here, beautiful here to hear
ravishing Rick Revendra.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
Definitely a little bit of an ol packer. Yeah, beautiful here.

Speaker 8 (59:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
I mean but that that, I mean that there's no
one's going to question Russian Revendra from wearing that here
to school. He can do good likes h No, But
I mean just generally that haircut would be fine. I mean,
you don't need to have a fade with a bleached mullet.
You know, you don't need it. You don't need the Harsey.
But by all means straight on. Yeah, and then and
that's when the school needs to put its foot down.

(59:48):
And that's how the whole thing works.

Speaker 3 (59:50):
Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Do schools have
any right to tell students what they should do with
their Here are you with Matt? That absolutely it's their
school their rules and that's part of learning in life.
Or as long as they've got a tidy uniform, the
school should just keep out of their business.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
We are you with us text on nineteen nine ten
as I read that before Tayser every horse horsey haircut
until they get a cut.

Speaker 9 (01:00:12):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
If you're down for that, are you? And to Tasering students,
they can handle it.

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Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
Thank you very much, Ray Lean and having a good
chat about haircuts in schools on the back of Nelson
College having to potentially make rules about this horsey hairstyle
that's been trending over the last year or so.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Can you please explain to me what a horse haircut
is this? Texas says on nine two nine two. I
have horses and there isn't anything unusual about their haircuts.

Speaker 7 (01:01:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Well, it has been described as a fade with a mullet,
but often the mullet out the back is bleached. Yeah,
so it looks horsey, Yeah, like a mane. Yeah, yeah,
so it does. You know, when you see it, it
looks a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
Like Yeah, it makes sense when you see it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
It's a google. What about the fact the country is
being judgmental, that having a horsy haircut equals being negative
something negative. Maybe we should have a country that is
worrying less about this kind of thing and talking about
it less judgmentally as a country or person. Thank you, Yeah, no,
But I mean what I would say to that is
the horsey haircut is rude, So I'm judging it. I'm

(01:02:36):
judging it. It is a rude, rude haircut. But I
think that's the point. I think the idea of it
is not that it looks good, is that it's a crazy,
amusing statement. That's why so many people are picking this
haircut because not because it doesn't look good. There's no
argument that it looks good. But it does look funny.
And I think a lot of young men at the
moment are going for funny haircuts, and I respect that.

(01:02:58):
But school has a rule. So even if that's the rule,
then as a parent, don't go along and try and
change the rule. Just say to your kid sometimes you
just have to follow some rules. You know, the horse
is too far. But I'm sure there's something else stupid
that you can do that you can get away.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
With the el pecker, ol pecker, you might be able
to get away with el pecker. Oh, one hundred and
eighty ten eighties and number to call.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Get a Johnny, Johnny, you've got the genealogy of the horsey.

Speaker 22 (01:03:23):
Yeah, yeah, I've just been hearing you're just talking about
just now, and I don't understanding. I think he's a
way off the point here, or even off what even
your you're thinking a horse is. So a horse is
a redtail at the top of the head, at the
back of the top of the head.

Speaker 8 (01:03:39):
So the thought come from its island as island star and.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
It's sort of a what it's sort of a narrow
it's like I wouldn't call that a rats tail. It's
sort of wider than a rat than a traditional rats tail.
It's quite muets. Well, no, it's a it's a mullet
about it's fade right round the back, so the fade
goes right round the back and then you've got a
bit a length on the top. But I would say,
unlike a rats tail, it's a bit it's a bit

(01:04:06):
wider and more suggestive of a horse's tail, wouldn't you say, there, Johnny.

Speaker 8 (01:04:11):
No, No, I'm not at all matter. I've got three
kids who have got it.

Speaker 22 (01:04:14):
Personally.

Speaker 8 (01:04:15):
I think I'm just bringing a fit of the age
back here.

Speaker 22 (01:04:17):
Because I feel like you guys are way off the top,
way off the man I'm looking.

Speaker 8 (01:04:20):
I'm looking that it's ugly. I think that's ridiculous. It's
not ugly.

Speaker 22 (01:04:24):
You get you go there, it's about fifty or forty
dollars haircut, You get it all faded up around besides
right around, and you just leave the top maybe about
a ten centimeter wide around ponytail looking thing, and.

Speaker 8 (01:04:37):
You'll go it as long as you like. It could
be short, it can be long. Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 22 (01:04:42):
I don't understand how you can think it's an ugly
haircut or suggest that it's rude.

Speaker 8 (01:04:47):
I don't know where you're coming from there.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
I think that's the point of it. I think the
point of it is it's funny, right, it's a funny haircut.

Speaker 8 (01:04:54):
No, it's just just a style. It's the style of today.

Speaker 22 (01:04:58):
Unless you're the age, or or or anywhere close to it,
you won't probably understand it.

Speaker 8 (01:05:03):
So, and I think there's always been the way, even
what Bettels were, even ugly, there's no way.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Someone's wearing that haircut seriously, that that is a funny haircut.
And I respect, I respect that that kids want to
have these creativity with their haircuts, and and I and
I think it's funny, and personally I think it's rude.
But absolutely, I mean it would be particularly funny. If
I wore it, it would be outrageous. But dussy water.

Speaker 8 (01:05:30):
I don't know how old you are. I'm forty. I
don't know how use one of them was.

Speaker 22 (01:05:33):
If I woren't funny, because that's not that's not our style.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
Yeah, but but I would say, but, Johnny, what I
would say to you is it is from in my opinion, rude.
But but I respect that. It just looks rude.

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
But isn't it, Johnny, it's kind of rud like what rude?

Speaker 8 (01:05:50):
Like rude, like rude naked or rude.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
Or like like actually I'm using an old, old expression.
Probably there. It's a way we used to talk about haircuts.
When you'd get a haircut, Like when I was at school,
I had the stupid mullet and we'd call it rude,
which means I need to use my get my expects.
And it was kind of like a way of saying,
I've got a haircut. It's sort of a statement haircut.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
It's a Southern phrase though.

Speaker 8 (01:06:14):
Ruge.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
Yeah, it's like the modern day mullet, which we all
knew when we had mullets at high school that there
was a point that we looked ridiculous, but it was
cool to look that ridicul Yeah that I'm saying, it's.

Speaker 22 (01:06:26):
Yeah, yeah, but it's still around, Yeah, still around. Why
why are they why are they canceling the mullet?

Speaker 8 (01:06:32):
You know they are?

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
They are at some schools.

Speaker 8 (01:06:37):
Oh they are, okay, Yeah, Anyway, my son, my son.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Wasn't allowed a mullet at his school, and he was
just point about that because he had a great mullet,
He had an excellent mullet, but he had to nip
that off.

Speaker 8 (01:06:49):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
The fact that he could grow a mustache as well,
you know, I take my head off film because not
everyone could grow one, but he wasn't allowed to mo.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
Yeah, well, Johnny, I'm sure, I'm sure you're I'm sure
your boys look cool with their with their horses.

Speaker 22 (01:07:02):
Absolutely I get told often they're like all their friends
start growing it after.

Speaker 8 (01:07:06):
They had it.

Speaker 22 (01:07:06):
You know, that's just the way it is. Obviously the
kids are getting it, that's why they're canceling it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
But Johnny, if you're if you're if the school that
your kids went to said no horses, would you go
to the school and argue with it or you just
say to your kids that's the rules of the school.

Speaker 8 (01:07:23):
You got to go with it.

Speaker 22 (01:07:25):
I respect that the school announced the college and what
they're doing, because obviously they're allowed to do what they're doing.
I would say that maybe you were started at like
stair form or like what do you what do you
call it?

Speaker 8 (01:07:35):
Year nine and say here from here you can't have
this headcutch whatever, this is what we're doing.

Speaker 22 (01:07:40):
But I think they're doing in the middle of all
of a sudden because everyone's got it and then they
want no one to have it.

Speaker 8 (01:07:45):
I feel that that's a bit off.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
Oh thank you so much for your call, Johnny, appreciate it. Yeah,
be careful with my words. Rude. I didn't mean it
was like rude as an nude rude or you know
what I mean, isn't it?

Speaker 15 (01:07:57):
That was?

Speaker 3 (01:07:58):
Well, probably about fifteen years ago. Over, I said then,
and that's rude. And it was kind of like you
were like a rude dude. Yeah, yeah, it's it's cool
to be rude.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
But not in a moody rudy using the tim rude
like that is as bad as having a horsey haircut.
But lor Nelson College just further what Johnny was saying.
There are they specifically targeting the horsy haircut or is
it just outside.

Speaker 7 (01:08:18):
Of the general rules.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
It just falls by its nature outside of the previously
set up rules.

Speaker 3 (01:08:24):
No, I think mullets would be included in this. And
again that quote from the principle. He acknowledged the fine
line between enforcing rules and the need for self expression.
And young people still grow in their identities. But we
want standards. You want the boys to be able to
express themselves, feel comfortable in their own skin. But school,
particularly high school, is a place where they learn that

(01:08:44):
rules are a part of life and it's important they
stick to that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
So this Texas is rude is a NAF word. You
might as well say, Lamo, Yeah, I think I agree
with that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
Oh, eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty Oh they
actually quote a barber in Nelson about these horses, and
I quote from this barber, Stormy's man cave. He said, personally,
I think they're ugly and they're difficult to work around,
but they are a very trendy choice in Nelson at
the moment. So the year go n two is the
text number. Will take a few more calls very shortly.
It is eighteen to.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
Three, Mattie Tyler Adams with you as your afternoon rolls
on Matt and Taylor Afternoon with the Volvo XC ninety
attention to detail and a commitment to comfort news talk.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
Sa'd be good afternoon quarter to three, and we're talking
about hair styles and score on the back of Nelson College,
not that keen on the horsey here style. A couple
of quick texts.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
Yeah, this one just had a mate poppin and he's
been listening while driving. He suggested, wait until they all
turn up to school with the trump. That'll happen. Yeah,
it will, that will, that will happen. A great show, guys.
But the mullet has actually pronounced malay. Thanks very much, Simon,
thanks for point. Yeah, and rude does mean naf just

(01:09:57):
to go back to it. But we used to try
and be rude. It's kind of it's very hard to
it's a complex, complex idea that rude does mean neaf. Yeah,
but it was worth trying to be rude. And if
you a road enough, you'd get a compliment for being.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
At eight scenes in high school. Yeah yeah, yeah, Kaiser,
how are you?

Speaker 8 (01:10:15):
Oh yeah, yeah, good man?

Speaker 11 (01:10:16):
How are you?

Speaker 7 (01:10:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
Good good love the name Kaiser.

Speaker 21 (01:10:18):
Yeah yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:10:21):
Hey.

Speaker 21 (01:10:22):
Listen the chat today, Yeah, about about the about the
Horsey cut, right yeah, really good, really good chat for
a Friday. So I'll be honest with you. I rocked
up the horsty cut at work, right yep, at the
age of forty eight. Okay, so I'm fifty right now.
I'm fifty today, and.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
You've still got the horse. Are fifty today?

Speaker 21 (01:10:44):
Yeah yeah, I'm fifty today. Yeah, thank you, thank you, brother,
thank you.

Speaker 20 (01:10:50):
Very interesting chat.

Speaker 21 (01:10:51):
I think I think the mulay or whatever they call it,
the mullet, it's just it's just the Horsey cut is
just a sort of a reincarnation of the mullet.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 21 (01:11:02):
So, so what they did was the barbers they'll just
do a tapra fade, you know, just to tire it
up on the side in the back, around the collar
in it, and it looks pretty good with the trend
how they have added the tap of fay to it today.
But you know when I was forty eight, Yeah, my
sons and there were rocking that up to you, and
I said, hey, man, look that's untidy. You need to
maintain that before you go to go to school or whatever.

(01:11:22):
Otherwise I'll just shave it off. They wouldn't got a
tap of fir which made it really nice and tidy.
So that's the start how it is today. Yeah, but
looking at it, back at it, yeah, I think as
long as they're maintaining it, it's all good.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 21 (01:11:34):
Cut, that's a good meal. So it's a modified version
from from the mullet, that's what it is.

Speaker 14 (01:11:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:11:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
So I mean, of course you can have whatever your
haircut you want at work those but you but if
the school that your kids go to see is no
to that particular haircut, would you push back against the
school or would you say to your kids, all those
are the rules. You know, you've got to adhere to them.

Speaker 21 (01:11:56):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, good question. I mean for me personally,
I'll say, hey, look those are the rules. And at
the end of the day. Like I said, majority of you,
you teenagers, don't.

Speaker 8 (01:12:04):
Even maintain it.

Speaker 21 (01:12:05):
Yeah, it's just tidy it up, just maintaining it looked tidy.
Look because once once it's not tidy. It's like, yeah,
a horse is well groomed in that, you know, I say,
But yeah, I've also well groomed in that.

Speaker 20 (01:12:16):
So just tiny.

Speaker 10 (01:12:19):
Bed or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
So that's something that you teach you to teach your
kids that you can you can express yourself and you
can show your flear and your interesting, but keep it
tidy and maintain.

Speaker 8 (01:12:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
Have you for sure one you got a rifle partner kaiser? Yeah, sure, sure,
sure does she she loved the horsey.

Speaker 21 (01:12:41):
Oh no, no, no, not at all, not at all.
Yeahority females they actually like that, so good question. Yeah,
they actually go for Yeah, but it's the look.

Speaker 23 (01:12:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 21 (01:12:52):
I mean I don't know what of this, but all
I know is that I'm talking to my son as
they say, it's just a modified version of the mullet. Yeah,
but a lot of a lot of just can pull.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
It off through Yeah, yeah, I mean that's that's that's true. Actually,
I mean it's unfear for me to I see it
and I laugh because I think it's funny, but I
laugh in a positive because I think it's cool and
people have stupid haircuts. Yeah, but you know that's just
probably because for me it's different. But it sounds like
we're getting a lot of calls, people saying, no, you're wrong, Matt.
It actually looks good. Well when you see it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
On the footy field, I mean, I can see why
kids want to emulate that. But I again, when I
see the rugby players with these horsey haircuts, I laugh too.
I think that's ridiculous. But I take my head off
to you for the confidence.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
Yeah, I laugh, but I like it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
thank you so much for you cal appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
Yeah, great, cool guys. I believe that school should pick
their battles. If our horsey haircut makes a child feel
more comfortable with themselves, let it be. The most important
is that they want to turn up and learn. Two
of my kids went to a high school and christ
shirts that had a mufty uniform. The only rules was
no profenity on T shirts or really low cut tops
on girls. Kids wore all sorts and had all sorts

(01:14:00):
of haircuts. Mine were pretty straight. Laced but seem to
work out okay for that school, thank you very much for.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
But that's just a school picking it line. It's just
picking its line. That's what I was saying before. School
has to pick its line and then it has to
hold the line wherever it sits it right. That's you know,
they for whatever reason, for the ethos of their school,
they pick a line right, and if if someone goes
over that line, then they tell them that they're a
breach of the rules the school said. What were there?

(01:14:27):
Rules are no profanity on T shirts and not really
low cut tops on girls. I bet there were. Then
that's where the battle set and you have that bottle.
But I'm not sure that believes that that schools should
all be about if it makes a kid feel more comfortable.
I don't know that, Like if you need to have
a haircut to feel comfortable, then I think there's deeper

(01:14:49):
issues than that, you know, like I can't handle it,
and if they have my currently fashionable haircut to go
to school, I don't know. I just think that I
just think that's ok. I think that's giving kids too
much leeway. I think if the school says that's the
haircut I don't care how you comfortable it is. You
have to do it right.

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
Yeah, oh, eight hundred eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
I'm coming from a position where I pushed the rules
on uniform as hard as I could, but right, but
that was wherever the line says, that's where the battle
lines are. Yeah, good point.

Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
Oh eight hundred eighty. Teen eighty is the number to call.
It is nine to three.

Speaker 7 (01:15:22):
The issues that affect you and a bit of fun
along the way.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
Matt and Taylor Afternoons with the Volvo xc N eighty Innovation,
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Speaker 7 (01:15:31):
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Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
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Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
Lots of text given through on this. These haircuts you
guys are moaning about. It's sad. I love those haircuts.
If the kids had Damien McKenzie haircuts he had last year, now,
that would be tragic. We've herecut either. We're not moaning
about any haircuts, Sandra. We're not moaning about the haircut,
no geez. What we're saying is if there's a rule
at a school, then you have to follow it and
kids are always going to have challenging haircuts. That's the

(01:15:59):
whole point of it. It's not you, I mean you
should have seen how people freaked out about beatles herecuts
back in the day.

Speaker 3 (01:16:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
True, Yeah, kids will always have challenging haircuts, and good
on them. But as schools have to draw align somewhere right.

Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
Exactly, This one's very supportive of you man. Schools should
be competent enough to be responsible for making clear and
conciense rules for their school. Otherwise they are choosing to
open themselves up for unwanted situations with parents and students.
It's in the school's hands.

Speaker 15 (01:16:24):
Yea.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
They fell as parents who pushed back at schools about rules,
standard etc. Are just teaching their kids to grow up
into self centered, entitled adults a holes. If you don't
like the rules, go somewhere else. That's from Hayden. Yeah,
and I do think it's an interesting thing to say
to kids that your exterior appearance is important for you internally,

(01:16:45):
if you know what I mean. So what they're saying
is my child needs to express themselves like this, they
feel comfortable dressed like this, and they need to do
it outside of the rules, and I'm going to go
to school and try and get the rules changed for
my kid. That's saying that how you present outside is
in my opinion, that's more important than it needs to be.
It's like how you are inside that counts, right, it's

(01:17:06):
not your harsey on the outside, it's your horsey. Very true,
you know what I'm saying? Yeah, right, that didn't sound great.

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
No, no, no, I got where you're coming from.

Speaker 6 (01:17:14):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:17:14):
I think I was on the wrong side of that argument,
and maybe fair enough to the old horses at Nelson College.
Just just have a normal haircut until you're eighteen, and
then you can do whatever the heck you like with
your hair. If you want a Moulay, go for gold.
If you want a horsey, go for gold. You want
an alpecker, our packer looks good, Yeah, pecker looks.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
And if you want to run a school where the
lines of the haircut is further on from the horsey,
then that's good. You'll just have that battle. At that
point there was something crazy you have to fight about.
But I think this text to sums that all up
really really nicely. On nine two nine two. It's all
fun and games until someone gets nuts.

Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
Yeah, very good?

Speaker 15 (01:17:51):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
Old nuts?

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
Isn't that the truth? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:17:54):
Exactly right, Thank you very much. Really enjoyed that discussion
coming up after three o'clock. We've got New Zealander of
the Week and then we want to chat about multiple bathrooms.
That is coming up? I wait under an eighty ten
eighty is and umber to call?

Speaker 15 (01:18:08):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:18:08):
Two ninety two is the text number. Great to have
your company is always Happy Friday to you. You're listening
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She was great talking to them. You saiday, do you, Tyler,
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I'd like to think so. I'd like to think so.
But looking at a picture of llewell inventor, he was
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Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
Yeah, you strike me this kind of guy that would
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as I stroke myself, I think I would be like him.
I think I would flip the car off the bed
and say so just with one hand, yeah, just push
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I love, I've got this mate. I'd spin it on
my pinky and throw it back out onto the street.

Speaker 20 (01:22:33):
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Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
If you want to ever listen to that full interview,
go to the website and just under the Matt and
Tyler Show page and you can listen to that whole interview.
Well worth a listen. Incredible couple, llewell In and Sue
an Venor.

Speaker 7 (01:22:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
Yeah, it's a great story and well told by them.
Yeah right.

Speaker 3 (01:22:49):
Let's have a chat about bathrooms. So a study out
of the UK looked into those who have more than
one bathroom when it comes to the state of their marriage.
To get this, the study found that if you have
two bathrooms in a household, you ave fifty three percent
less likely to get divorced. So more bathrooms save marriages.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
Yeah, I guess so. But that's one of those statistics
where maybe if you have two bathrooms. You are more
affluent and financial pressures aren't making your break up. But look,
I'll tell you what, it's a slippery slope. It's a
slippery slope. Now people need more and more bathrooms. So
as I said before, and this is like a punishing
thing to say, but when we were when I was
growing up on the farm at in my day out

(01:23:34):
in Dunedin, we just had one outside toilet, yeah, with
a wooden seat. That was fine. Four kids, two parents.
I actually spent a lot of my life waiting for
my dad to get off that toilet. But anyway, that's
that's by the bye.

Speaker 3 (01:23:48):
But they are nice places for mean to be sometimes
the toilet, you.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
Know, you know, I'm looking at houses at the moment,
and you know the other person involved if there was,
if there was less than two toilets, then well one toilet.
Then they'll be like, that doesn't even work. There's one bathroom.
How do you even live like that? And I just
think that's this this concept creep. Surely we can live
with one bathroom. Surely a house only needs one bathroom,
And how much time are people spending on it? Is

(01:24:12):
because people are spending so much time on their phones
in the bathrooms that were getting bathroom congestion. Now, But
I mean, would you buy a house with just one bathroom?

Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
Well, we only had one bathroom in our place in
christ Jurch. I could have done with another toilet. I'll concede.
That point is that I'm okay with the one bathroom,
but I expect at least two toilets, because, like you say,
that is it can be quite a harmonious environment just
being in the toilet in the morning. It's part of
my routine that that's a place where I can just

(01:24:42):
prepare for facing what I may have to face in
the world. You know, there's just my time to do
a bit of reading, just a bit of get back
to zen before I jump out and face the world.

Speaker 2 (01:24:53):
Yeah. No, I get that. And I'm kind of like
a cat when it comes to that kind of thing,
you know, I like to cover it up. So in
my perfect world, maybe the second bathroom would be down
the path in the corner of the garden.

Speaker 3 (01:25:04):
Yeah, I've got no problem with that, a problem with
the outside.

Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
I've got wander off down there and you know, and
commit my crimes down there.

Speaker 3 (01:25:12):
It is a big Keiwi thing though, that if you're
in the market for a new home, two bathrooms seems
to be critical if a home. If you've got a
young family or a family full stop and the house
you're looking at only has one bathroom, that is a
massive challenge for a lot of people thinking, I don't
know if we can do this one bathroom, what are
the kids going to do?

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
I think I think we're soft. I think these are
luxuries that we don't need. And I think people just
get used to something and then they think that they
need it. From then on, they get used to that
luxury and then they can't go back. And I think, like,
if you like in your partner, there's two of you,
you don't need one bathroom.

Speaker 3 (01:25:49):
We've got three at the moment. That is luxury. We
love an on Suite though, you've got.

Speaker 2 (01:25:52):
An on suite. Yeah, I got an non Sweet.

Speaker 3 (01:25:54):
Yeah, we love it on Swite.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
I don't need it. I don't need a non Sweet.

Speaker 3 (01:25:56):
Oh wait, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. Why are we so fascinated with a number
of bathrooms that we seem.

Speaker 21 (01:26:02):
To need to have.

Speaker 3 (01:26:03):
There's some great teams coming through. I am shocked at
the number of bathrooms kiws have this ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
Yeah. And the other thing is, if you can't share
a bathroom with your partner, should you even be married?

Speaker 3 (01:26:15):
Two is the text number? It is quarter pass three.
Good afternoon, it is sixteen pass three. And why are
we so obsessed with the number of bathrooms we have
in a house? This is on the back of a
study out of the UK which came to the conclusion,
rightly or wrongly, that if you've got two bathrooms or
more in a household, you were fifty three percent less

(01:26:37):
likely to be divorced.

Speaker 2 (01:26:39):
Yeah, I mean, but it could be anything. Yeah, I
mean I think if you've just got to become a
fae with people's bodily functions and just deal with it,
I think we're becoming weak.

Speaker 3 (01:26:48):
Yeah, too soft.

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
Yeah. And as I said before, if you need a
two bathrooms, super bathrooms, and then should you really be married?
And another question, I was talking to someone last night
at this event and they were saying that they were
moving into separate rooms this couple.

Speaker 3 (01:27:03):
Yeah, that is controversial. Don't know how I feel.

Speaker 2 (01:27:06):
About that one. It just sounds like I got a
lot of people that don't like each other.

Speaker 3 (01:27:10):
One hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

Speaker 7 (01:27:13):
Dave.

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
Your thoughts on the bathroom situation.

Speaker 8 (01:27:17):
Okay, lads, Yeah, look, I'm with you, Matt.

Speaker 23 (01:27:22):
If I could have a bathroom well removed house, that
would be.

Speaker 8 (01:27:25):
Just the idea.

Speaker 3 (01:27:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (01:27:26):
Absolutely, But here's the cure.

Speaker 23 (01:27:30):
If you have just one bathroom in your house, then
big box matches, that's all it takes from them solved.

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
That is the move away as the move away from matches.
The reason why people have had to get two bathrooms
and three bathrooms in the house because people don't have
the old match yeh situation.

Speaker 22 (01:27:50):
I currently agree, but you can still get them.

Speaker 8 (01:27:52):
And they weren't wonders.

Speaker 23 (01:27:54):
They're just absolutely amazing for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:27:58):
Have you said that?

Speaker 23 (01:27:58):
I mean, I grew up in a house with just
one bathroom and we survived.

Speaker 25 (01:28:04):
But I must say I do have two bathrooms and
in my and my wife and I enjoy being able
to you know, separ eight that morning.

Speaker 3 (01:28:14):
Yeah, if you can has it her bathroom, you know,
that's that's a very nice thing to have. And as
you say, Dave, that is your wee toilet. You've got
your matches there. You can be in there as long
as you want and life is good, mate.

Speaker 18 (01:28:27):
I'll tell you what.

Speaker 8 (01:28:28):
I'll tell you the worst. Guys.

Speaker 23 (01:28:30):
Many years ago, my wife and I we did a
camper there tour of Europe with another couple and I'll
tell you what, my mate, diabolical.

Speaker 25 (01:28:42):
Where did We had to go for a very big
long walk before the claire. You know, we made him
empty the cartridge at the gas stations.

Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
You know that's your job, buddy, that's close carters.

Speaker 3 (01:28:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
I find the problem with like you know, and look
i'm pushing that. You know, looking at a house it's
only got one bathroom. That's fine, to deal with it.
It's your dream house. Whatever. But I would say there
is a problem. And I'm going to get push back
on this from nine two nine two and I'm sure,
but I think there's a problem with sharing a bathroom
with a female. Okay, terminy woman. Potions. There's just it's proliferates.

(01:29:22):
There's like there's a shelf, then that gets covered with
a whole lot of weird things that like in little
and little poddles and little bits of things, and then
there's more of them, and then there's ear buds. Then
there's more potions, and there's little things and there's more things,
and then there's more moisturized, and there's more things, and
before you know it, it's like it's like that episode
of Star Trek, the Trouble with Tribles. Before you know it,

(01:29:42):
that bathroom is completely full of woman potions.

Speaker 3 (01:29:45):
The hoarders, they are bathroom hoarders. It just becomes too much.
It's like a junk shot with all those little potions
lying around. I've got to say, now that we've got
and we're lucky enough to have three bathrooms at the moment,
now that I've got my bathroom and mate's got her bathroom,
I only have to clean my bathroom once every two weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
Where's hers?

Speaker 3 (01:30:01):
It's an absolute stain.

Speaker 2 (01:30:03):
Hey, I'm buying a house soon, wife and three kids.
I think if I'm going to put myself into debt
for thirty years, I might as well get one extra
bathrood point. Yeah, good text this cuse says I, Matt,
you must be Russian. Yeah, I mean yeah, Russian's a
big fan of one bathroom actually.

Speaker 3 (01:30:22):
And the outdoor bathroom.

Speaker 2 (01:30:23):
Yeah, well forty percent of Russians even to this day,
you know, and we hear a lot about Russia and
what a superpower. It is forty percent of people in
Russian still have one outside bathroom.

Speaker 3 (01:30:34):
Yeah, so bring back the long drop. Oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty is the number to call. It is
twenty one past three.

Speaker 1 (01:30:45):
Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty on Youth Talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (01:30:51):
Good afternoon, twenty three passroom. And we're talking about multiple
bathrooms and modern homes. Matt, you think we're all just
a bit soft having this many bathrooms.

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
I think we're addicted to luxury. I think you only
need one bathroom. You know, great if you have them,
Great if you have them. But I don't think if
you can't share a bathroom with your partner, should you
be with them at all? And I think you know,
like I have complained about the number of women potions
that are in my bathroom. It's just a lot of them. Yeah,
but also there's probably complaints about things I do in

(01:31:18):
the bathroom that probably have a more sort of Chernobyl
type effect for the area.

Speaker 3 (01:31:24):
I know I'm in the studio with you, and I
guarantee you've viewed some of those potions. Don't tell me
you heaven.

Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
Well, I don't know what they are. I've got my
own potions. I've got the beef tellow that's all I need.
Just rub some beef tell on my face that we
got seen on Monday. After ten years in a house
family of four, we are finally getting a second bathroom.
One bathroom with teens is challenging. Yeah, Mary, welcome to
the show. Your thoughts on this key issue.

Speaker 26 (01:31:51):
Yeah no, I just thought you might like to know
that in the UK, for the about at least the
last ten years, new build properties, we've all have to
have a disability bathroom.

Speaker 2 (01:32:04):
Even if it's a private down property.

Speaker 26 (01:32:06):
Yeah, private properties, they have their specific template that they use,
so specific amounts of room and everything.

Speaker 3 (01:32:15):
Interesting and is that can that be the primary bathroom
so you can still just have one, but it has
to be a disability bathroom.

Speaker 26 (01:32:21):
I'm not sure on that. My niece over ten years ago,
she was building a new build and they had bathroom upstairs,
but this bathroom downstairs had to be disability specifications.

Speaker 2 (01:32:35):
What's the logic in that, Mary, is that that in
the future it might be sold to someone with a disability.

Speaker 26 (01:32:41):
To keep people in their houses more right?

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
Okay, that's interesting. Thank you so much for you call. Mary.
I don't know how I feel about that. If there's
not someone with a disability in my house, then I
don't need that, And if there is one, then I'll
get that put in.

Speaker 3 (01:32:55):
Because I'm pretty sure in New Zealand, if you want
to do that to your bathroom, you can get a
government grunt. But yeah, it seems a bit.

Speaker 2 (01:33:00):
Full on that you'll view on multiple bathrooms and houses.

Speaker 20 (01:33:07):
God, yeah, looked out.

Speaker 5 (01:33:10):
You haven't been with the wife and I haven't married
about thirty eight years of any other sort of forty years.
And there we kind of moved into the batch about
for COVID. Basically we locked down on the batch and
stayed there. And yeah, it's got two toilets, so toilets
are important, so there's his and hers with the toilets.

(01:33:31):
I think that that deseritly helps.

Speaker 8 (01:33:34):
We built it.

Speaker 5 (01:33:35):
We converted the laundry into into a fifth bathroom, so
we made a double shower, and we've got the twin sinks,
twin basins. I think that's that's good because she's got
her stuff on one side and I've got mine on
the other, and we're not complaining about each other's sinks.

(01:33:56):
We don't complained about each other's toilets.

Speaker 19 (01:33:58):
It is good.

Speaker 5 (01:33:59):
You know, we've separated bedrooms as well. I mean we
had sort of spare bedroom and she's a light sleeper
and I've come to bed after a wake her up,
and i'd get up before and things and cheek it
upduring the night and I wouldn't. So yeah, we're a
lot happier.

Speaker 8 (01:34:12):
And see for bedroom.

Speaker 2 (01:34:14):
How far away you nick from moving into separate houses?

Speaker 24 (01:34:18):
No, no, no, you know, I think it's.

Speaker 5 (01:34:20):
Really you know, saving your marriage at you we're actually
happy to see each other in the morning instead of thinking,
you know, see them someblady you allot me and you've parted.

Speaker 19 (01:34:31):
And.

Speaker 2 (01:34:32):
Exactly have you both got the same?

Speaker 19 (01:34:34):
I heard?

Speaker 3 (01:34:35):
Sorry you're going to.

Speaker 5 (01:34:37):
Going to say, yeah, you know the different text between
a male and a female is when the female says,
can you smell that? It smells nice?

Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
Yeah that's true. Yeah, well the two things I can
kind of see that because I think a bon of
contention is facial hair in the sink. It's really hard
to get you know, you think you've been very careful,
you you've cleaned it up, and then there's you go
back and like there's a.

Speaker 3 (01:35:04):
Lot of little right down multiple times next.

Speaker 2 (01:35:06):
Thing and those are some of the best the hears
that can end up in the same neck.

Speaker 3 (01:35:10):
Thank you very much, Greg. What do you think on
this one? Hey mate?

Speaker 24 (01:35:16):
How are you boys?

Speaker 3 (01:35:17):
Bloody girds?

Speaker 24 (01:35:19):
We're we're nine years into a five year renovation and
unfortunately the second bathroom hadn't got around so you'd on
my border so you can mentioned what it's like. I've
got two teenage boys and a three year old girl.
So so my little girls just pasted toilet training one
of the leads last the shower, which will only take

(01:35:40):
twenty minutes for half now being a teenager for little girls,
I need toilet. So we could get away from bathroom
and got a sit and toilet would.

Speaker 8 (01:35:54):
Be really.

Speaker 2 (01:35:56):
Yeah, thank if you call Greg. Yeah, I mean I
had the advantage growing up and how do I put this?
So growing up on a farm there was just the
one bathroom, but a lot of your bathroom activities were
done outside.

Speaker 3 (01:36:12):
Yeah, I think we can say on the show number ones. Yeah,
you know that's good for the lemonary good, not so
good for the grass yep.

Speaker 2 (01:36:18):
Number ones. You know I slept in the barn upstairs
at the barn number ones with out the door of
the barn, you're a feral kid with it was a
pretty nicely done up barn to be free, oh, one
hundred and eighty ten eighties and number of course, Staveve,
you're running a few bathrooms.

Speaker 10 (01:36:36):
Now.

Speaker 9 (01:36:36):
Look, I've been building since early nineties and most of
my house has always had an orm suite, even in
the nineties. And so I'm building house at the moment
with one bathroom and one extra toilet. Now my house
I have five bedrooms that I have five worn suites
right and upstairs upstairs I've.

Speaker 19 (01:36:56):
Got an extra toilet for visitors, and downstairs got an
extra toilet for visitors. Seven and so I just think,
I just think it depends on the quality to home
and depends what you want out of your house. I mean,
I've got three kids. Everyone's got their own bathroom. We
don't have any hassles on. You know, people waiting for
a toilet.

Speaker 9 (01:37:15):
There's always a toilet there. You know they've got their
own bathroom.

Speaker 16 (01:37:18):
Simple that you're living the.

Speaker 3 (01:37:19):
Good life, Steve.

Speaker 2 (01:37:20):
If you if your family certainly got busted down to
one bathroom, because I think you get used to the
situation you've gotten and look and good on you and
congratulations that you can, you know, provide that for your kids.
But a situation where you got busted down to one
bathroom with your kids and you and your partner, how
do you think they would go?

Speaker 19 (01:37:38):
Well, look, I think if it was just me and
my wife living in a beautiful chateau somewhere, one bathroom
is enough, I see. I think the extra toilet. I
think the extra toilet would be great for visitors, you know,
because you don't you've got an extra You've got you're
a main bathroom. That's fine. But if you've got a

(01:38:01):
range sweep and then an extra toilet, right, then that's fine,
you know. I mean, if you've got two bedrooms, you
normally have one bathroom, and it is nice to have
an extra toilet when you've got visitors. So I think
two toilets is probably I think two toilets and an
essential thing. And I want to say that from the nineties,
but you know, not everyone has that luxury.

Speaker 9 (01:38:24):
Of having two bolets.

Speaker 19 (01:38:25):
I think one bar from his plenty, one bar from
his plenty, but that extra toilet is definitely over.

Speaker 2 (01:38:31):
Seeta Steves, Is it yeah, I mean I would like
my own now I think about it. I mean I
started saying it's a ridiculous luxury, but I would, as
I said, my own private little your toilet. But you
would away from the house outside where no one else
can get damaged. Yeah, maybe wired up with some nice speakers,

(01:38:51):
a beautiful view, maybe of a waterfall or something. Maybe
just with no walls, just sitting out by a tree
looking out over waterfall, with like some I don't know,
maybe a deer.

Speaker 3 (01:39:03):
Yeah, it was beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:39:05):
A little you know, little rabbit. No not rabbits, hate rabbits. No, no,
hate rabbits, hate rabbits.

Speaker 3 (01:39:11):
You just get a little Samsung frame just on the doorway,
would be lovely.

Speaker 7 (01:39:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:39:16):
No, no doorway out in the open, just with a big,
huge torta behind me and a beautiful view where I
can just do my stuff by myself without fear of
the damage does to the rest of the family. Yeah,
good luck with that.

Speaker 3 (01:39:31):
Dreams are free.

Speaker 16 (01:39:32):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:39:33):
Thank you very much. That's been a great discussion, So
thank you very much for all the texts and the
phone calls. Coming up. We've got the headlines with Raylen.
Then it is time for topical tune. That is, We're
met and I each pick a song related to what
we think is a theme of the week. The first
to three votes via phone takes it out and.

Speaker 2 (01:39:51):
It is currently even stevens for the years. So whoever
once day will go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:39:56):
Ye stand by for that.

Speaker 2 (01:39:57):
Twenty eight to four.

Speaker 7 (01:40:01):
US Talk said the headlines.

Speaker 15 (01:40:03):
With blue bubble taxis it's no trouble with a blue bubble.
The Prime minister, who outs New Zealand's relationship with China
has been damaged by his trade and defense talks with
India on x China's ambassador to New Zealand has said
it hardly serves your best interests when you try to
promote one significant relationship by damaging another. Lifetime Paroli Dean

(01:40:26):
Wickliffe has told supporters he will walk out of prison
free or he's prepared to die. The seventy seven year
old has been on a hunger strike after being arrested
earlier this month for breaching his parole living conditions. New
documents have revealed a World War II era shipwreck in
Auckland's Hodarchy Gulf could trigger a two hundred million dollar

(01:40:47):
oil spill cleanup. A survey would cost around thirteen point
seven million, which Maritime New Zealand says is minimal compared
to the costs of an oil spill. Supermarkets are under
a scrutiny across the Tasman, with the Australian Treasurer saying
they are treating their customers like mugs and it needs
to stop. The Australian Government says will be implementing big

(01:41:09):
changes inside the Foley verse. How Las Vegas as Golden
Knights liked the path for Auckland def ce See the
story at Enzid Herald Premium. Back to Matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (01:41:22):
Thank you very much, Rayleen, and it is time for
Topical Tunes. Is a game we play each Friday where
Matt and I each peck a song related to a
theme of the week and it's the first of three
votes five phone that wins.

Speaker 2 (01:41:34):
Yeah, that's right. Topical tunes. So you know you can
vote on the on the topic, the poignancy of it,
the meaning that it gives you around an issue, or
just whether you like the song or not.

Speaker 3 (01:41:46):
Yeah, the more tenuous might be better for you if
you want to vote that way.

Speaker 2 (01:41:51):
I often will judge you. Tyler often across a number
of things you do. Just your very being offers up
a lot of things to be judge. But one of
the things on a long list of things I judge
you for is how tenuous your links are with the song.

Speaker 3 (01:42:05):
Well, topical chance you will be happy this week, so start,
shall I?

Speaker 23 (01:42:09):
So?

Speaker 3 (01:42:09):
On Tuesday we had a great discussion about hitch hiking.
It was on the back of whether you did the
right thing giving this young student a ride. She was
lost and she was freaking out, and you gave her
a ride to university, which was a lovely thing to do.

Speaker 2 (01:42:22):
But that expanded out to hit shiking and whether we're
friendly as kiwiez.

Speaker 3 (01:42:28):
But the song I've picked us a bit of can heats.

Speaker 5 (01:42:39):
Speak you?

Speaker 4 (01:42:40):
Andrew?

Speaker 1 (01:42:40):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:42:40):
Can I just say this is the first time this
has happened in topical gets. You did ask me whether
I wanted this song or on the road again, and
I did. I did say I want it on the
road again. But this is going to have to work. Okay,
let's let's play a bit on the road again.

Speaker 4 (01:43:00):
Here we go.

Speaker 7 (01:43:04):
That's your song TI.

Speaker 3 (01:43:07):
Take the while to get into just be with us?
Come on, yeah, thank you very much, Andrew so canned
he on the road again.

Speaker 2 (01:43:26):
Sounds like a eunuch comit the frog singing, but you
know we'll allow it. Okay, all right, Look, this is
my topic. There are more self service stations coming, customers,
customer facing as being removed from, more and more businesses,
chatbots taking over, AI order takers, checkouts, chickens. I say

(01:43:47):
humans rule. Human interaction brings happiness, communities important, and jobs
for young people are important. So I say, let's choose
people over machines. And that's why this is my song.

(01:44:13):
You go people by the legendary key. We ban my
six adam sick, people walk, people fly, people sing, people say,
people lose, people try, hurt, people cry, people love, people die.
We want people around us. We want to spend more
time with people, right, it's very We want to be
served by people, and we want to serve people. All right, okay, so.

Speaker 3 (01:44:36):
There are your choices. You want to better canned heat
or or my six yeah, oh, eight hundred eighty ten
eighty is another.

Speaker 2 (01:44:42):
To go first to three decides nine nine two.

Speaker 3 (01:44:45):
We don't take ticks. But if you want to teach
and say how good my choice was, you're more than welcome.
It is twenty Wonder four.

Speaker 1 (01:44:51):
Have a chat with the lads on eight hundred eighty
ten eighty Matt and Taylor afternoons with the Volvo XC
ninety Tick every box, a seedless experience of weeks news talks.

Speaker 3 (01:45:02):
They'd be afternoon eighteen to four and it is time
for topical tunes. We met and I have each picked
a song related to a theme of the week. The
first three via phone takes it out A couple of
nice texses here neither is those are both crap, lads,
Thank you very much for that. Thanks for that text
in this one ave. I don't even need to hear them.
Matt gets my votes.

Speaker 2 (01:45:21):
There you go, yeah, there you go. Well yeah, our
fans so me today.

Speaker 3 (01:45:25):
We had a lot of chat about hitchhikers on Tuesday
after a nice thing that you did for a young
woman getting her to university. But we brought it out
to hitchhiker chat and being on the road. My song
is canned Heats.

Speaker 7 (01:45:47):
What do you love?

Speaker 19 (01:45:48):
That is?

Speaker 2 (01:45:49):
That is a movie? It's a beautiful motus just imagining
when he first turned up at band practice and started
singing like that, Okay my song. There are more self
service service stations coming and robots are replacing us everywhere
in our life. There's AI all over the shop. But

(01:46:10):
I say let's choose people over machines, and I say
let's choose New Zealand music. So here's my sex with people.

Speaker 15 (01:46:21):
That you know.

Speaker 2 (01:46:25):
There are some people that say that Blur the Englishman
ripped off the song with their song boys and girls.

Speaker 3 (01:46:31):
Yeah, they took it quart I think didn't that?

Speaker 2 (01:46:33):
Possibly?

Speaker 7 (01:46:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:46:34):
Right, those are the choices. Eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty is the number to call full lines at the moment.
But if you can't get through, keep trying.

Speaker 2 (01:46:42):
Matthew, is it people or is it canned heat?

Speaker 21 (01:46:46):
Matthew, they're both Tyler both interesting song.

Speaker 24 (01:46:52):
Yep, yeah, I'll have to go with Tyler.

Speaker 7 (01:46:56):
Yeah, beauty.

Speaker 3 (01:46:58):
Yeah yeah, on the road again, good man?

Speaker 2 (01:47:02):
Are you you don't have to go with Tyler? You
said you have to, you don't have to?

Speaker 4 (01:47:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:47:07):
Okay, man, all right, that's that's firm, as long as
you don't feel like you have a firm.

Speaker 3 (01:47:11):
But fear all right.

Speaker 2 (01:47:12):
One for me, Belle, What song and watch topic do
you prefer?

Speaker 15 (01:47:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:47:19):
Look, I saw my six many many times.

Speaker 7 (01:47:21):
Did you candy eat them? Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:47:24):
Good man? He wrote you in there, didn't he Bill?

Speaker 2 (01:47:27):
It took me on a little bit of a journey there,
Bill right too for me, not for me. I'm in
trouble here, okay, well Bromwin, save me, brom and welcome
to the show. Is it canned heat or is it
my sex?

Speaker 6 (01:47:40):
Oh?

Speaker 24 (01:47:40):
Sorry, it's can.

Speaker 3 (01:47:45):
Little beauty?

Speaker 24 (01:47:46):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:47:46):
I still love you, Bromin, I still love you. You've
hurt me today, You've hurt me badly, unpatriotics.

Speaker 3 (01:47:52):
But this is a great song.

Speaker 2 (01:47:54):
That's that's a downtrop for me.

Speaker 3 (01:47:55):
That is another down trout.

Speaker 2 (01:47:56):
And now what's good? Crankt Kim at the frog crowd
to pull his pants right up, give him myself a
widgy and sing a song.

Speaker 20 (01:48:06):
It's joy.

Speaker 15 (01:48:13):
Well, I saw a crown.

Speaker 2 (01:48:15):
But I'm pout on.

Speaker 6 (01:48:16):
A road again.

Speaker 2 (01:48:17):
I'm on the road again.

Speaker 6 (01:48:20):
But I'm sot a grown but I'm pout on the
road again. I'm on the road again. I ain't gird,
no warm, just to call my special friends.

Speaker 7 (01:48:35):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:48:35):
The first time I traveled out in the rain and snow,
in the rain and snow. You know, the first time
I traveled out in the rain and snow, in the
rain and.

Speaker 22 (01:48:48):
Snow, I didn't have no fair road, not even no.

Speaker 8 (01:48:53):
Things to throw.

Speaker 6 (01:48:57):
And my dear mother left me when I was quite young.
When I was young, and my dear mother left me
when I was quite young, when I was borck yard.
She said, hellord have mercy, Oh my wicked son, take again.

Speaker 11 (01:49:43):
Call my mama.

Speaker 6 (01:49:44):
Please, don't you cry no more.

Speaker 7 (01:49:47):
Don't you cry no take a head, cry my mama.

Speaker 22 (01:49:51):
Please, don't you cry no more.

Speaker 7 (01:49:54):
Don't you cry no more?

Speaker 6 (01:49:57):
Because it's soon one morning down the road. I'm gone,
but I ain't going down the long some road or Musco.
But I think you going down there long oh lots
of roads Musso. I can't carry your fab gonna carry

(01:50:22):
some boyl.

Speaker 2 (01:51:07):
Al right, okay you say to finish this song ages
Ago can't heat and you're just tuning guitar.

Speaker 3 (01:51:11):
Now, what a pack? What a pack? Thank you very
much to everyone that voted for me, which is everybody. Yeah, goodwin.

Speaker 2 (01:51:18):
The sexta says, what an easy job pick songs and
ask for votes. I thought this was a news channel. Yes,
but Rob Rob your grumby bugger Rob Rob. They were
topical tunes. Yeah, so that one that was very topical
tune there around LinkedIn to the news. Yeah, it was
LinkedIn to the news, so we get to get away
with it on Friday. But yeah, very easy job.

Speaker 3 (01:51:38):
Yeah, and also made it's Friday, it's happyer go have
a beer, just enjoy life.

Speaker 2 (01:51:42):
Luckily, about two hundred other texts enjoyed your song, Tyler.
So congratulations, you win. You're head on topical Channe.

Speaker 3 (01:51:49):
Just yep, thank you very much. Right, we will wrap
the week very shortly. We'll play some messages and come
back with our picks for the weekend. But thank you
very much to everyone that called an antext.

Speaker 1 (01:52:02):
It is eleven or four the big stories, the big issues,
the big trends, and every in between.

Speaker 7 (01:52:09):
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Speaker 1 (01:52:10):
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Speaker 5 (01:52:15):
The'd be.

Speaker 2 (01:52:18):
It is on at the Civic. Ah, there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:52:22):
And do you know what I love about this musical?
It's only eighty minutes long. That's my sort of musical,
None of the three hour business. Eighty minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:52:29):
Eighty minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:52:30):
Yeah, it's shortened chart but a bing butter boom with
an intermission, I hope not at eighty minutes. You don't
need an intermission at any minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:52:36):
Well, there's the Warriors are on tonight, which is exciting
out at Mount Smart Stadium if you're in Auckland. Yes,
and at Eden Park black Caps are playing.

Speaker 3 (01:52:45):
Oh yes, you're heading along to them?

Speaker 2 (01:52:46):
Yeah, beautiful. And then there's yeah. But I'll tell you
what I can. I read a text out that I
sent to a friend.

Speaker 3 (01:52:53):
Please.

Speaker 2 (01:52:54):
And this is a friend that has been an IF
into F one for many, many many years. He was
my producer on the Matten Jerry Brick show, Great Man Chris,
and he was so into F one and I was
I just didn't get it for the for the longest time,
and I judged him, and we used to have it
erased from the news that was mentioned in the news
on our shows, so he he wouldn't hear the results.
And and you know, he was wearing his full Ferrari

(01:53:17):
cat all the time. And so I texted this, so
I'm now all in on F one. You were right,
smiley face. I've jumped on the bandwagon with everyone else.
I get it now, and he said, great time to
join in. You can watch Hamilton potentially ruin his legacy
as he slowly crushed under the weight of Ferrari's mediocracy,
so many have tried to do it. Geez, I really

(01:53:39):
hope Lawson does.

Speaker 3 (01:53:40):
Okay, Oh that's nice. I mean, what a humble reply,
though he could have, by all accounts, said, suck it, Matt.
I told you all along. You're a loser. Now you're
in it, You're you're on the bandwagon now. But it
is exciting, the hype around F one. You can't help it.
Get into it, and maybe we need just a bit
of skin in the game. And Liam, Liam laws I.

Speaker 2 (01:53:58):
Mean, I mean, that's that's drawing people like me, and
but I am all in, Like I am so excited
about it, and I feel like I've missed so much.
If I'd only listened to my mate Chris ten years ago,
I could have experienced so much. Over the years. I
thought it was just a precision. I thought it was
just like playing slot cars. I didn't realize how brilliant

(01:54:20):
the coverage is, how how like the pyil and the excitement,
the the and the dramah and the technical side of it.
I didn't realize how much there was to love on
so good to watch.

Speaker 3 (01:54:33):
Even racing and the wet right and Clearly that didn't
pay off for our Liam Lawson, but that was exciting
seeing them have to try and navigate with those tires
on those wet tracks was phenomenally exciting. But I've got
to say, if you were into if one as much
as the likes of Mike Hoskin, that takes up your
whole weekend because you've got the practice round, which I

(01:54:53):
believe is tonight, then you've got the pre race which
is tomorrow night, and then the proper race on Sunday nights.

Speaker 2 (01:54:59):
She's all go, yeah, well, you know what else you
gonna do get amongst it. Yeah, it's been a weekend
watching sport.

Speaker 3 (01:55:04):
Love it exactly. Hey, thank you very much for this week.
Loved it always, and we'll catch you again next week.

Speaker 2 (01:55:10):
Yes, go the Warriors, go Liam laws and go the
black Cats, go the Economy and go you see on
Monday for another edition of Mett and Tyler afternoons. Until then,
I know, get hydrated, get loose, maybe give you a mummering.
I love you, I love you. It's been a great week.
Let's get rap.

Speaker 7 (01:55:32):
And another thing I'd been wanting, la.

Speaker 5 (01:55:37):
Am I crazy to believe in my team?

Speaker 2 (01:55:42):
No, I a Puddy fan, so you understand see yes,
s phill a trevacent dream.

Speaker 5 (01:55:53):
Yes, that's.

Speaker 7 (01:56:01):
I want you to know that, Matt and Tyler.

Speaker 1 (01:57:00):
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