Full Show Podcast: 23 October 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hello you, great New Zealanders, and welcome to the Matt
and Tyler Afternoons podcast. Great show today covered off all
the key issues Commonwealth Games. Tyler thinks it's rubbih and
it should be shut down, and everyone involves a bunch
of losers, and he has no respect for previous New
Zealand athletes.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Yep, and I'm sticking with that. Get rid of it.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
I think it's the greatest thing in the world. Professional
dog walkers, boy, he was a hell of conversation lit up.
We had there's some real dog haters out there and
some real dog lovers out there. But it was very, very,
very very informative because we had a counselor that was
trying to shut down dog walking to a certain level.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
A couple of dog walkers themselves dog.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Walkers come through, so anything you need about need to
know about dog walking is in there.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
One gentleman. He upset a lot of people. Actually, not
only was he a dog hater, he was a child
hater as well, don't.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
It That's right. He was anti he was anti dog
walking and people that need dog walkers shouldn't have dogs,
anti people to have kids that need daycare as well.
Murray took a hard line on that.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
He did. He came hot, he came in hot, so
he look for prisoners.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
You can award to that one. I'm not sure if
Murray would backs as beliefs up fully. I think maybe
he's having a bad day, but also camping into the
greatest pastime for New Zealander's campaign and got a little
tip about drinking and camping and making sure you've got
enough booze when you go away. All right, then, okay,

(01:41):
very good man. Tyler Podcasts give a taste of kiw.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
Talking with you all afternoon.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons new for twenty
twenty four News Talk zib.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yes, welcome into the show middle of the week, Wednesday afternoon.
I hope you're having a great arva wherever you're listening
in the country.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Get a maddie, get a tighter. I'm having a great
time up here at News Talk ZB. I moved up
from Radio Huradachi around fourteen years down there, but I
got to say it's just as scary up here as
it is down there when it comes to free products.
The Kinnis Warehouse stand just got restocked this morning.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
It did, Yeah, and there was a feeding frenzy straight away.
I've been told about this. It doesn't last long.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Or maybe people got more ailments up here or something,
but rarely got rinsed over there. And I don't think
there's anything left for us, not even some hillbarm Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
I took the hill bump.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Did you know the hill bump?

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yeah, I took the hill bum. You can never have
too much.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Hill But we've got correct heils.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Well not at the moment, but I will hear my
life at.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Some point in the next thirty years. Yeah, correct heels.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
And I got something maybe as well. Shall be happy
with that. It's a birthday.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
Sort it.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Right onto the show today after three o'clock, we're going
to be talking about camping.

Speaker 5 (02:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
We wanted to talk about this yesterday, but meat Chat
went too long yesterday celebrating New Zealand beef. So we
want to celebrate New Zealand camping today. Camping is proving
more popular than ever, with many northern campgrounds already booked
out for the summer. Is classic key with camping is
it the best holiday you can have. This is my
theory as it is, you meet people, you're not isolated

(03:11):
from other families, you can play cracket, in touch with strangers.
Your kids run around and meet other kids that become
their best friends for a week, and then then they
look at them in pictures and they remember and they
go there was a little toiler that I was friends with.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Back in the day.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
I feel sorry for rich people who isolate themselves from
other people. I was staying at the camping ground last
year and I was thinking, this is such a communal experience.
It's so much fun. It's so visceral. It's like going
back to the basics of being a human, which is
just getting up, eating, maybe swimming, a bit of fishing.

(03:46):
You're talking about the humans drinking.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
Fires on the beach, all their good stuff. In those
camp grounds where it's the same families each year, is
kind of nice. Get a mertcal's life going mate and nobody.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Is sitting out the front of your tent and a
new a new family pull up and you watch them
as they set up their tent. You stand around. You
don't help, but you stand.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Around, stand around drinking beers and say, much.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Like the kids. They'll be your neighbors for the next
few days and you've become very very close with them.
It's fantastic.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Do you let the camper van families into the into
the tent squad? You see them, there's a little bit
of ead welcome all comers. Yeah, yeah, depending on what bears,
kind of storms.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Kind of come through and you might need to climb
in that camp of van with them.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yeah, that's going to be a good chat after three o'clock.
After two o'clock, dog walkers are getting a bit upset
about potential rule changes that may see the number of
dogs one person can walk limited. It is controversial. I
mean a lot of people utilize dog walkers these days.
I am one of them. We've got a dog walker becks.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
How much you pay for a walking of your dog?

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Twenty five bucks for thirty minutes? Okay, not bad, not bad.
I don't know how many other dogs she's got, though.
She might have a massive van that she just loads
the van up with the dogs from the neighborhood.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Is that the biggest problem in the world with dogs.
I think bands of unregistered dogs running around as the
problem but dog walkers are the best of us. Dogs
are such good things to have. It's so great to
have a dog and a family, but we all work
so hard don't have dog walkers walking them. And these
dog walkers are saying, if you limit the numbers that
they can walk, then they're not going to make enough money.
You know, they have to charge you more or I'll

(05:17):
go out of business. And that's not great. You want
to have a dog, but you want that dog to
be walked.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Behavior at the dog park, that's you know, I think
that's what it's gonna lead into. This discussion is controversial
when it's an off lead park and some people keep
their dogs on lead and vice versa. When it's an
on lead.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
You know what those dogs behave well at a dog
park other dogs, other dogs. Yeah, they love the socializing dogs.
You had those COVID dogs that never saw other dogs
and then they've come out weird. The more they are
with other dogs. If it's if the dog walkers walking
ten dogs, or you're taking your dog to dog parks
a lot, then those dogs get very good with other dogs.
Otherwise they don't learn the lessons of how to deal

(05:54):
with another dog. And also the thing of the dog.
A dog can have a bit of a That's fine,
that's just.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
That's what they do.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
They love it.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
That's after two o'clock because right now we're going to
be chatting.

Speaker 6 (06:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
The Commonwealth Games woo. The common Game Games will feature
just ten sports across four venues in Glasgow, with rugby,
hockey and cricket xt After Victoria pulled out, Glasgow put
up their hand and said we'll do it, but it's
going to be a smaller one. Is this the end
of the Commonwealth Games? Will this be the last? Is

(06:25):
it fizzling out with a whimper? Do you care? Do
you love the common Games? Would you like to see
it here?

Speaker 3 (06:33):
This is our heic of a bit generally though, because
I'm going to say my partner a minute, but generally
you love the Commonwealth Games and you want to see
it live on get stronger?

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Well, what's not to love? It's such a good time.
I'll be sad. It's a great event. And there's been
so many great New Zealand athletes at the Commonwealth Games
over the years. We've only got color TV Tyler in
New Zealand because of the nineteen seventy four Commonwealth Games and.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Colour would have come at some stage.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
They rushed it. They rushed it for the seventy four Games.
That's why I think we got color TV in nineteen
seventy three, like November. They rushed it out so we
could have the Commonwealth Games. And I tell you what,
you've seen a documentary on it. No one could believe
how beautiful the pictures were because no one had had
light like New Zealand and Calor when they came down
and filmed down here. We've had so much success at
the Commonwealth Games. It's something to be to be proud of.

(07:21):
And look we won fifty medals at the Birmingham twenty
twenty two Commonwealth Games. Yeah, fifty medals. What about the names?

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Tyler happy with the names go on?

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Murray Halberg, Yeah, big name, yep, good Man, Yes, David
Nieker in recent times yeas won two goals.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Fantastic, fantastic.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Sure, the Olympic Games is the absolute elite and permacoll.
I could go into what a rip offers and what
the Olympic Committe's doing to the world, but that's another issue. Sure,
that's the elite, but you want other moments for our
athletes to shine around the world. So I think it
would be a massive, massive loss to the world and
especially to athletics if and in some of the sports

(07:59):
that you know, New Zealand may not be able to
get a gold at the Olympics, but we can really
shine at the Commonwealth Games.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
So we enjoyed it when we had it here in
nineteen fifty, nineteen seventy five, Foreign Christ June nineteen ninety
in Auckland. This is the moment, this.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Is the theme here. Did you know that Hillary Barry's
in the chorus of this she she was part of
the chorus that sang the this is the moment. She
got a good singer, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Hills Bears. I don't know that. Who else who was
the lead singer of this one?

Speaker 2 (08:26):
So was the guy from manfred Man. What's his name again,
Chris Thompson from manfred Man sing it?

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
There's a great story about the closing ceremony in nineteen
ninety where it took ages for the queen to get
to the front. She was driving around. It was mayhem
and the band had to just keep playing the song
on and on and on and on. And I actually
interviewed Chris Thompson about this, and he said, at one
point the bass player just went I got a gig
in town and left. Yeah, so this fantastic bassline stopped,

(08:55):
but they had to keep going.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
But yeah, let's just clarify, I feel good.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Does this song not make you feel great? Fill the
spirit within you?

Speaker 7 (09:03):
Tyler?

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Right, So here's rom Cut the music, Cut the music,
So it comes to the grind, here comes to crinch.
I'm not taken away from the beautiful memories of Commonwealth
Games of old. They had their moment in the sun,
and they were good times. I would admit that they
were good memories. But there comes a time that when
it has lived, it stay and it doesn't mean we

(09:24):
forget about the good times. But it has got to
the point now where we've just got to gracefully let
it go. What I would hate to see about the
Commonwealth Games and now it is happening, is it has
been reduced to a shadow of its former south. Just
furnish it up and leave it to the Olympics is
the pinnacle of all sportet I'm sorry Commonwealth Games Edinburgh

(09:45):
should be the last one.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Well, you said that to the silver ferns. The Netty's
still in there. It's an opportunity for the Netty to
shine on a global stage.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
No cricket, no rugby. Have they got loam bowls?

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Long bowls are still in there.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
That made it of one of the fifteen sports they
kept lawn bowls.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Hockey's out.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
Hockey's out.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, I mean, I'd prefer it was returned to its glory.
And the question of whether you have it in New Zealand,
I mean Victoria got rid of it because the amount
it was going to cost was too much. They believed
to run it. So I mean it's I mean, it
would be great if it continued. Very very expensive to
run it, I admit that much, But I just love it.
It's such a good time. It's a better time in

(10:23):
the world when the Commonwealth OF's Games is on than
when it's not, because you get those heroes you celebrated
every day. It's fantastic.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
Dick Quax yeah, good Man, good Man, great runner. Yeah,
but he's not going to compete again as I loved
Jackson run Jackson oh eight, one hundred eighty and eighty.
How do you feel about this? Is it time to
finish up with the Commonwealth Games? It's been good while
it's lasted, but it's time to move on after Edinburgh?
Or genuinely, do you think it provides a lot for

(10:52):
athletes and we can get it back to its former glory?

Speaker 4 (10:55):
Do you love us?

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Do you love it?

Speaker 6 (10:57):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (10:57):
Eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine two nine two. It
is the text number. It is sixteen past one.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
This is the moment, the big stories, the big issues,
the big trends and everything in between. That Heath and
Tyler Adams afternoons you for twenty twenty four us talk said, be.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Good afternoon nineteen past one. Is it time to let
the Commonwealth Games go? It's had its glory days, but
the glory days are long behind us. That's what I say. Met.
You're a massive fan of the Commonwealth Games and you
want to see it return to its former glory.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
I just love it and it's an opportunity for New
Zealand athletes to shine, you know, between the Olympics. So
why wouldn't you love it? What's not to love about it.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
About the World Games? Just let them compete up the
World Games various World Games.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yeah, well absolutely, but why not more? Why not more?
There's more of a there's more of a spotlight on
the different games at the Commonwealth Games because there's fans
of different sports.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Do we need to rebrand it?

Speaker 6 (12:01):
No?

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Okay, why what would you call it?

Speaker 3 (12:03):
Because it's dying, well we would call it. I don't know.
I mean the Olympics light budget Olympics. What's your thoughts?

Speaker 6 (12:16):
Mate?

Speaker 5 (12:16):
There you going guys?

Speaker 8 (12:18):
Love it to he is.

Speaker 9 (12:19):
Listen just before.

Speaker 8 (12:20):
I say about the Games, Maddie, you're right about that
bloody head mate, that mutton.

Speaker 10 (12:26):
Hammers number one.

Speaker 8 (12:27):
So yes, I've already I've ordered mine for Christmas.

Speaker 11 (12:30):
Mate.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, not only is number one cheaper, it's better than
you stand in Hammer Mutton ham is the way to go.
But we got to run.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
Yeah, we're not going to do meet again as much
as we want to treat.

Speaker 8 (12:43):
Yeah, I had to say it, but listen, Tyler, your
spot on son. Look, as far as I'm concerned, it's
a dying game, mate, it's gone, you know. I mean
if they've drawn out so many how many things have
been pulled out of it? So much sport has been
taken out of this Commonwealth Games in Scotland. I'm a
shaved of Scotland, but I love it. But look, I

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wish look, I wish them well, I mean the keywis.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
That are gone.

Speaker 8 (13:12):
Good luck to them and all they can do is
their best and they do do their best day. But
number one, mate, it's the Olympic Games. Take care, guys,
have a damn good day.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Thanks beautiful me. See that's it. That's goods at its moment,
but it's it's dying.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah, but that's what people say about the Mutton Ham
as well.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
And there coming oh one eighty ten eighty quick takes
to the break and this one's having a go at me, Tyler,
do some research. Yeah, on the Olympics, it is not
the pinnacle of all sports. It's the pinnacle of the
Olympic Federation. Not everyone chooses to be a part of that.
Often the best best athletes are not there at all

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the same with the Winter Olympics, Commonwealth Games all the way.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah, well, I mean I kind of get that argument. Yeah,
but I mean a gold medal, the Olympic gold medal.
You know, let's be honest. If you've got Olympic gold
medal and you've got a Commonwealth Games gold medal beside it,
which is the one that you're more excited to hold.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
Yeah. Yeah, you're Olympic and the Commonwealth one goes in
the bathroom.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
That from a tiler. You're never going to win either.
So I don't run down the Commonwealth gold go.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yeah, I don't want to do that. I love athletes.
This isn't about our athletes. I think they are phenomenal forenmenal.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
They train and they train and the train and they
need places to shine, and especially in athletics. New Zealand
athletes have got a great opportunity to shine at the
Cornwealth Games and more than they have at the Olympics,
and the focus on the Conwealthy's Games. It was fantastic Birmingham.
We were all over the Birmingham Commonwealth Games said fifty
medals and we celebrated them every day.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Can you remember who got the gold at Commonwealth of
burning them?

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Can I remember who got the gold?

Speaker 4 (14:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (14:51):
There was heaps of golds. Yeah, fifty medals mate, yeah,
all of them?

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Please? Yeah, just your top three, your top three.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Like, don't put me on the spot, but there's a
lot of I liked all fifty of them equally.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
You're a generous man. Oh one hundred and eighty ten
eighty twenty two pasts one back in the mow.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers the mic Hosking.

Speaker 12 (15:17):
Breakfast the win does compare up and say sorry because
it looks like you can provide school lunches at a
much cheaper price and with less waste, and they look
more than good enough to week to meet David Seymour's
with us.

Speaker 13 (15:28):
I think what has seen done is actually quite amazing.
But it's not really me that's done it. I just
lets a group of.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
People get on with it.

Speaker 13 (15:34):
All I've done is bring together a group of people, business,
voluntary sector, government and say, OK, here's a big target
three dollars.

Speaker 14 (15:40):
Can we do it?

Speaker 13 (15:41):
Given those conditions they've underway And basically if later it
adopted this model five years ago, the total savings to
date would be eight hundred and sixty million dollars. Instead,
we have eight hundred and sixty million more debts that
ironically that children getting the lunches will have to pay back.

Speaker 12 (15:54):
Tomorrow at six am The mic Hosking Breakfast with Bayley's
Real Estate News Talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Twenty five past one. So I asked you before the
break your your highlights of the last Comonwealth Games in burning.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Them and I've just searched my mind.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Yep, yeah, it was hard for you to narrow down.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
It was a search of my brain.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
There were so many moments and.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Tom Walsh in this shop. But how about that hams
Kerr would have Hamish ker gone on to win the
gold at the Olympics if he hadn't had the experience
of winning the gold at the Commonwealth Games in Birmingham
in twenty twenty two. Aaron Gate in the cycling, how
good we won a bunch of golds in the squash? Hey?
Was that called Paul Coley? Paul Cole, Well, Paul Cole

(16:36):
and the squash. Yeah, yeah, but also Pierian Waters as
well in Waters and Waller.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
How many in the in the rowing?

Speaker 2 (16:42):
How many in the rowing? Let's stop asking me questions
that I don't have the answers to exactly.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
Klvin, how are you mate?

Speaker 15 (16:50):
Very good afternoon to both of your hosts. Now, First
of all, the Commonwealth Games helps to reinforce the Commonwealth.
There are fifty six countries in the Commonwealth, around about
thirty five republics and about six have their own monarchies.
He's just one for us to know about is Tonga.
It's in the Commonwealth now originally and has got his
own king now well queen now originally yet to have

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a past for present association with England, to be in
the Commonwealth and to do with the English language. But
in recent years Mozambique, which speaks Portuguese because it was
surrounded by Commonwealth countries, like the idea of it and
joined it.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Now getting back to the very cool flag, it's got
an AK forty seven on it.

Speaker 15 (17:33):
Well, the Commonwealth itself, no Commonwealth country is allowed to
be at war with another Commonwealth country, although occasionally India
and Pakistan would have a would like to have a
bit of a ding dong, but they always hold back.
But the Comwealth Games themselves only nitwith nitwitz and incompletes
and numb skulls would would consider that the Commonwealth Games

(17:54):
aren't worthwhile holding. They are excellent and quite often in
the Commonwealth Games, world records are broken and even Olympic
records are broken in the Commonwealth Games.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
Right, Okay, So no skull talking here, Calvin genuinely, because
you can see what's happened to the Commonwealth Games over
the past six years as they are now a shadow
of their former self. And I can say hand on
heart that I am not that invested, not the way
I'm invested in the Olympics. I don't check the medal table.
I don't feel the same further of pride in the country.

(18:29):
It's not that we're not proud, we are, but to me,
the Olympics is the pinnacle and that's what we look
forward to every four years, and the Commonwealth Games are
their poorer cousin, and if we are going to carry
them on, they need to be rebranded.

Speaker 15 (18:42):
The situation is that the Commonwealth Games. Now, what was
I going to say that? You talk so long you
made me lose my train of thoughts. That's right, idea. Now,
the common which other country is going to hold the
Commonwealth Games? Is a set number, a set certain sports
must be held in the Commonwealth Games, and the rest

(19:03):
of the Games are allotted in relation to that particular
country itself or what other countries would like to have
to have there. So it's no problem the Commonwealth Games.
It's just great. Fifty six countries, that's over a quarter
of the world.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, it's impressive stuff. And Tyler, what a silly question
you asked before about the rowing at the Commonwealth Games
in Bermingham. Worrying hasn't been at the Commonwealth Game since
nine in eighty six in Edinburgh.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Funny that funny that you know, why what did they
have the rowing if it's kind of bare because.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
It's you have to have the right facilities for the
wrong Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
Well that's the other question though, wasn't it. It's it's
the expense, and I get it a lot a lot
of these times. It's not about the money spent. We
had this discussion with America's Cup, right, we might not
get that money back, but in terms of the well
being of the population, that's an important consideration. Would you
say the same with the Commonwealth Games in terms of
the further and pride and coming together of nations.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Fantastic?

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Yes, Commonwealth Games fits that bill.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, it brings people together. But New Zealand isn't going
to be able to hold it. I mean we're actually
talking about it recently. I remember Grant Robinson was talking
about it. Wasn't he across the entire country we could,
we could do it. But I don't think we've got
I don't think we've got the appetite for that kind
of expendence. Here Victoria pulled out because it got too expensive.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten A. I'm getting some absolute
abuse by the text machine and I'm here for it.
This one from Davo hey Numbskull. How would an Olympic
medal be broken at the Commonwealth Games?

Speaker 4 (20:29):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (20:29):
That might be for you. What how would an Olympic
medal be broken at the common No?

Speaker 2 (20:34):
No, no no, someone said that there's Olympic records have
been broken at the world records have been broken at
the Commonwealth Games. Yeah, and the Olympic records have been
broken at the Commonwealth Games, right, but they're totally different.
You obviously can't well tell you what you could break
an Olympic medal. You could take it along, you could
snap it in half. But that's not really what people
were getting at. I mean it was physically possible.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Oh hundreds the Commonwealth Games had their day. Love to
hear from you. It is hay pass one.

Speaker 4 (21:04):
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Speaker 3 (22:21):
Adams News talks, it'd be That is Tom Walsh in
the almighty yell. If we really got to pot it
all on the line in terms of the vocal courts,
don't you when you do the shot book?

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yeah, with your hatred of the Comwealth Games, Tom Walsh
would never have won a Commonworth Game.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
One more time, Andrew, here we go, Tom Walsh stepping
up to the.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
What that is a manly South Canterbury and what was he?

Speaker 3 (22:47):
What was there? Music in the background as well. He's
got some good chune yes, but at disco music in
the background. Right we are talking about the Commonwealth Games.
We know it's been stripped right back when it's going
to be hosted in Edinburgh. This was after the State
of Victorias said it was too expensive, we can't do it.
Originally they budgeted two point six billion, then it blew

(23:07):
out to estimated seven billion, so they said, no, we
can't do it. Scotland has come to the table. But
I say it's been good, it's been nice. Thanks for
the memories, but probably time for the Commonwealth to just
go away at this point, Matt, you disagree wholeheartedly with that.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
I think it's a fantastic time the Commonwealth Games and
it's an opportunity for athletes to showcase themselves. In this
text here you said it's just a budget Commonwealth Game,
I said, the poor cousin, poor cousin a budget so Olympics. Yeah,
poor cousin Olympics. As this Texas says here, should we
not compete in the Blue Desow Cup because it's just
a budget Rugby World Cup? I mean you can have

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levels of competition. That doesn't mean just because they're not
the pinnacle, you don't do them. The Olympics is always
going to be the glamor event, but there's a lot
of glamor to be had in the Comwealth Games, a
lot of great memories and I think it's a fantastic thing.
It will be an absolute tragedy if the world lost it.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Should we ever have it in New Zealand at some point, Yes,
let's put our money were your mouth is. Wow.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
It was a great time in nineteen ninety the Auckland
Commonwealth Games. This is the moment, but.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
Still talk about nineteen seventy four that we just need
to strip Crames.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Back because if you look at the opening ceremony in
nineteen ninety and especially the closing Seria that it was anarchy.
The Queen was starting, the crowd was out everywhere, the
band was playing for hours.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
The bass player had to take off because he had
another gig.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
As I was saying before, the bass player was like,
I can't continue here. I've got a gig in town.
Are we just spinning too much? And maybe that's it.
You have a stripped back Commonwealth Games in New Zealand
like they're doing in Glasgow, and we just have the
sports that we hear about and we can do well at.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
By the way, Andrew's done some good work here. Apparently
that music behind Tom Walsh was chick good time. Ah yeah,
goat Tim.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Mark Richardson, is I've got a question for you?

Speaker 3 (24:54):
Yes? Please?

Speaker 2 (24:54):
And what year did Jon Ohlomu win a gold medal
at the Commonwealth Games? Joan oh Lomo.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
I'm gonna say ninety eight? Interesting, okay if you think
you know nine two nine two and what and where
was it? I got no idea. I don't watch the
Commonwealth Games. I thought I told you there, Brendan. What's
your thoughts on this one?

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Mate?

Speaker 11 (25:19):
Hey Tyler, So I've got three things for you. First
of all, congratulations for stepping up the full time hosting.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
Thank you.

Speaker 11 (25:25):
Yeah, and I've got a quick recommendation for if you
guys want some really good for go down the Ringer
TIChE Pub down south of Auckland and trying the beef
brisket burger.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
You'll fall over from pleasure.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Nice. Do they have any mutton hends here?

Speaker 6 (25:41):
Oh?

Speaker 11 (25:41):
I don't know, mate, I just wanted the beef brisket
burger man. That thing blew me away anyway. Commonwealth Games.
The biggest problem with Commwealth Games, as Victoria found out,
was it's expensive to.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
Run, right.

Speaker 11 (25:53):
So instead of running one bird Comwealth Games at one country,
have it every four years. We have the Commonwealth Sports
Championships month and different countries around the different common countries
around the world put their hand up and run.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
So Australia would do the swimming, we do the do
the rowing, the UK do the something like that. Yeah,
and then and the coverage coverage of global Global Yeah.

Speaker 11 (26:18):
And each country wouldn't have to run the same sport
each time. You know, you could have the you have
the shooting and you on one one time. Then we
could run the rugby, the sevens whatever. Instead of having
one country from the Commonalth trying to burden the whole cost. Wow,
spread it across fifty six hundred.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
Yeah, you're a thinker. Actually, this is a brilliant idea.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Why does it have to be in one country? Because
it's really about those teams competing in those countries, competing
in the Commonwealth. So why does it have to be
in one country that that's such, that is.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
That is behind it? Actually I'd be more behind it
if that was the case.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
So you've got something in Canada, you've got something in
the UK all the same time, in the same week.
That that's fantastic whatever.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
Yeah, yeah, how do we get that on the Telly though?
In terms of the broadcast rights, how do we do that?

Speaker 11 (27:04):
Well, you know you sell them in different Internet yeah, delay,
delayed coverage of events, set downs on when you're when
you're when you're asleep, you watch it later on the day.
It's the Internet tilt. It's a really good thing.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
You've got the netball and Mozambique.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
Yep, what do we get? Do we get the lawn bowls?
I actually love lawn bowls.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
We go for rowing and lawn bowls.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
I'll take you that.

Speaker 11 (27:28):
And that's the thing. The bigger countries like in the UK,
Australia could run a couple events Australia, there's more countries
run one or two.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Were definitely put a hand out for the rugby sevens,
wouldn't we rowing? You could do three and three in
each country and then some country puts up the hand
that does the opening ceramone.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Right, good week, Brendon leaving. But it's a good idea.
Will claim credit and we'll see what we can do
with it.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
You'd have the hands across the water opening ceremony where
you swap to different places where they're celebrating their different
things across the world. Commonwealth Games global event, let's go.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
Do you know what I think my problem is with
the Commonwealth Games? Controversial, but I've finally worked out what
my problem is.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Okay, we're like about, you know, forty five minutes into
the arbit.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Yep USA isn't involved. Bring in America. I know they're
kind of well, they're kind are part of the Commonwealth,
but bring them in.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Bring them in. Well we've got Canada in there, but
not America. Yeah, but that's what But then you're just
talking about the Olympics. One of the great things is
an opportunity for athletes of the Cornwealth Games to shine
without the absolute big dog being there. Not there, you're
going to bring China.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
In as well?

Speaker 3 (28:34):
No, bring those cheating Russians in there as well. Definitely
not the Russians.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
The thing is the Commonwealth Games is a thing that exists.
It's a great tradition that some countries that have come
together and they are competing in this thing. Doesn't have
to be everyone. Not everyone has to come to every party, Tyler.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
Great text here, Hi guys, The actor Jason Statham won
a Commonwealth Games medal for diving. Yeah, remember that he
was a great diver, sleek. Yeah, he's a hard man now,
but he was asleep.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
I've seen the footage. Actually he didn't look as tough
back then. Still at a rock and god. But yeah,
would you have Jason Statham action film right now? Would
we have the meg if it wasn't fourth the and
the beekeeper wasn't for.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
The My barameter might be shifting on this one. O
eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty Has the Commonwealth
Games had their day?

Speaker 2 (29:19):
And my question and what year did Joon Olomu win
a gold medal at the Commonwealth Games and in which city?

Speaker 3 (29:25):
Nine two ninety two is the text? If you think
you know the answer to that, it's nineteen to two.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
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Speaker 3 (29:39):
That'd be good afternoon, Welcome back into the show. We're
talking about the Commonwealth Games. It's been scaled back in Edinburgh,
arguably because of the cost. Victoria said it was too expensive.
Is it time to finish it up with style? You know,
it has had some fantastic Commonwealth Games in the past,
what's sixty years? Even even longer than that, actually going

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back to we had it here in Auckland in nineteen fifty.
So we're talking over one hundred years of the Commonwealth Games.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Why you speak on the Empire Games, isn't it at
one point?

Speaker 13 (30:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (30:07):
It did. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
So my question for the break though was and watch
which year and watch at what common Goalth Games did
John Loma win gold medal? It was the nineteen ninety
eight Commonwealth Games in Kuala Lumpur, New Zealand defeated Fiji
one twelve in the final.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
That was a good moment. We were very proud. Pete.
What do you reckon?

Speaker 17 (30:28):
Yeah, well the first of my better sort out Calvin?
How did he call me a nick and poop and
a non skull? Think my thing? I might have for
challenged him in the ring at the Olympic Games, but no,
I reckon that it should be only have it once
Olympic Games. I think the colmn mouth. Come on, it's

(30:50):
cost high these things now. I think we've got to
draw a line somewhere. I reckon just and what they
should do off the venues is kicked the cost the See,
all countries are short of money. Now just use the
facilities which they already have in place, and just rot
take to e ten years long? Was they centralized? And
so everybody can have a chance of traveling to those

(31:10):
places rather than going all the way to England or whatever.
So I said, half a dozen places around the world
or four or whatever, so everybody can travel to the
Ember teen years. I'll go there, I'll go to Australia
or whatever, so everybody gets a fierce share of the
cake about sort of traveling. Had a long way to
go and watch them?

Speaker 2 (31:27):
What about did you like the idea peat of the
Commonwealth Games being split amongst a bunch of countries. So
because so the costs less for each country. You just
take on two sports in New Zealand and two sports
in Australia, two sports and Mozambique two sports in Canada
and make it a full global Commonwealth Games event.

Speaker 9 (31:47):
You could do.

Speaker 17 (31:48):
But why I just have it and do it propably
do it once. It's just heavy the Olympic Games.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Because no one can afford it, That's the thing. The
thing is now we're having the Glasgows been peered right
down to just ten sports across four venues because Victoria
dropped the ball because it was what they said, it
was billions and billions of dollars more than they were
willing to bend. So a solution to it could be
that you have the rowing in New Zealand, you have
the swimming in Australia, and you divvy it up around

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the world, you know, with with you know technology, Now,
why does it have to be in the same place.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
If we're going to do that, though, why don't we
just have the Anzac Games? Because part of it with
the Commonwealth is, once upon a time we used to
be very close to most of those countries, right, and
we're still pretty close to Canada, We're pretty close to
the UK, We're very close to Australia, but there's a
lot of the other countries in there. We get on
with them fine. But do we care about the competition
value with those countries, I'd argue we don't.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Well, I mean, yes we do. We're very close to India,
We're hugely close to Cameroon, Bangladesh.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Cameroon, and I like Cameroon seems like a fine country,
but I'm sure our trading relationship with Cameroon is not
that strong. Wales, Scotland, Wales.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
We care about all these countries, but also you don't
have to care and be close to a country to
compete them with them in sport. We don't care who
we're up against. It's just a grouping of countries that
have come together that they've got this, this tradition of
this this event, and we compete against those teams and
the Commonwealth Games means something. Sure, the Olympic Games means more,
but the Commonwealth Games means a lot and it means

(33:20):
more than.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
Other fixtures and pete you if you can find a
way to do it cheaper, you'd still be behind the
Commonwealth Games, is that what you're saying? Or no, get
rid of it and stick with the Olympics.

Speaker 17 (33:31):
Somehow if you can, it would be nice. Let's say
you would see you probably peating myself here. But of
course a lot of money to hold these events, as
we all know. So if they can work that somehow,
I don't know how they can do it. They all
get together and maybe it's good, maybe at both or
somehow so. But all the sports people still have a
chance of competing in their sports. What they know, they

(33:52):
get out of bed in the morning for two years
to challenge there, what the abilities they have? All the
sports they can still be held. But everybody has a
chance of playing the abilities.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Yeah, good man, Simon, how do you feel about this?

Speaker 9 (34:09):
Oh yeah, look thanks anyone on the show and I'm
good to be honest.

Speaker 18 (34:12):
Award ruinning shows.

Speaker 9 (34:16):
Yeah, you're not going to get the best Nikum. I
guess there'll be best talk show or something like that.
And with the Games, I was thinking having an origional game,
so like having an African Games where African countries doing
a European one and with all the European countries do
a Pacific one, an Asian one, and you could almost

(34:37):
do it like one one games one week, the next
week to the York the next week, do the Pacific
or something like that, so it would technically almost go
on for a three or four week. Being New Zealands,
we wouldn't be able to go in the African ones
because we're not in Africa, so that would could be
a way to break it down. But I did like
the guys thoughts where each country takes on a particular

(34:58):
couple of sports, and that that could work quite well.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Yeah, I mean there is there is these tournaments, isn't there?
There are tournaments around the world in different regions and
and that makes total sense. But I guess what I
would say is the Commonwealth Games, for whatever reason, historically
has been linked together, and it has and it has
meaning and it has history. So there's something very good
about that.

Speaker 9 (35:19):
But once we get to the point where it's getting
partly costly for countries to be able to hold it,
then yeah, it's gotta well.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
I mean, do we just need to be more sensible
with how we run them as well? Because in Glasgow
they're not building a whole village. Remember how much people
hustled Delhi when they were built. When they're having the
Commonwealth Games because they said the village wasn't good enough.
In Glasgow, they're just putting the athletes up in hotels.
So do they actually need to build all the infrastructure

(35:48):
for the for the games? We're just over engineering the games?
I think, do you have to have a does anyone
really care about the opening ceremony? Just get the athletes
walking around in a circle, we all we all clap,
we all have a good time there. Does it need
to be a complete representation of the history of your
country that.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
The common goes? We all sit around, have we clapped?

Speaker 4 (36:08):
Well?

Speaker 2 (36:08):
And see the Pam's Comwealth Games, the signature series. It's
about the competition. It doesn't need to be all the
pomp and ceremony around it. You need to build a village.
Do you need a brand new freaking stadium? Who cares?
Just put them in wine to pull into needing pump?

Speaker 9 (36:23):
Is it the pump and sermon that actually makes it
the Commonwealth Games? If you take that away, you'll descale
it down. Doesn't that going to take away the commonweth
Games and make it even worse?

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Well, if it's a difference between having it and not
having it. You just have to be realistic. We all
want to have Commonwealth Games that coul could bete with
the Olympics, but maybe it just has to be a
little bit simple. Nineteen ninety was a lot cheaper and
it was a lot more than the nineteen ninety one
in Auckland. Didn't have all the pomp and ceremony, but
it was still a great time.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
Yeah, but put put sponsorship your reckon sigment.

Speaker 9 (36:53):
Yeah, put sponsorship on us. So it could be the
you read bull games or or the McDonald's games.

Speaker 19 (37:01):
Good night around it.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
Yeah, thank you so much for your call. Nice to
chat simon it. There's nine to two.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Maddith Tyler Adams taking your calls on oh, eight hundred
and eighty eight Mattith and Tyler Adams afternoons.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
News talks, they'd be.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
It is six to two Richard, how are you doing?

Speaker 4 (37:22):
Hello?

Speaker 7 (37:22):
Thank you very much. I've been interested in listening to
the discussion about this. I'm a great support of the
Commonwealth Games and indeed of the Commonwealth. If you start
talking it down all the time, then you've got to
ready understand a little bit about it. But when I
hear people talking it down and talking it down all times,

(37:43):
not relevant, none necessary anymore, when actually it is. The
Commonwealth is actually fifty two nations, and two of them
one gentleman mentioned Mozambique, but Mauritius has joined as well.
During it In the Commonwealth, they actually have scholarships for
young people to go to different countries to study, and
we all have a shared history, are shared in most

(38:04):
cases parliamentary system, and I just think the Commonwealth is
very good. You mentioned about it Victoria not wanting it
wasn't a question of well wanting it. The state was
bankrupt by the Andrews government and they couldn't afford it,
and they had to pay in compensation millions of dollars
to the Commonwealth Games Association for not having it there.
So let's get all the story rather than a bit

(38:25):
of it. I happen to think the Commonwealth is very
relevant to today. Hence the Commonwealth Prime Minister's Conference has
been held in Samoa. What a great thing to have
it there in a small nation like Samoa. They're so
proud to host it. So I'm quite strong on the Commonwealth,
but I wish peop wouldn't talk it down. We have
a shared history between all those countries, and I might

(38:46):
seem a bit odd, I'm going to say, but I
always regard the Commonwealth people as being like a family
and everybody else, everybody else are foreigners, people of all
Commonwealth countries, and I meet them, I have something in
common with them.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
Richard, you said that very well, and I feel like
I've been given a bit of a serve there.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Yeah. Well, and that's sort of thing when we're talking
about paid back Commonwealth Games. Ninety seventy for Commonwealth Games
in christ Church, it only had athletex Babington bowls, boxing, cycling, diving, shooting, swimming, and.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
Weightlifting and wrestling and that was celebrated those games.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Yes, does it need to be It doesn't need to
be all the sports like the Olympics.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
Says Yea Martin. We've got about thirty seconds, my friend.

Speaker 20 (39:30):
Okay, I just want to just talking about that ninety
eight final at Kawhal Lumpa. Yeah, fantastic he I reckon.
He single handedly won that gold medal and afterwards they
said to him, what did Gordon Titchen say? He said,
empty the tanks boys, today's your day. That was fantastic.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
Yeah, yeah, great way to finish. Lomu, Lou Lomu, Yeah,
good time.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Commonwealth Games forever.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
I have come closer to your camp. I'm not quite there,
but I'll work on it. We'll see how Edinburgh goes.
It is three minutes to two after two o'clock. We're
going to talk about dog walkers. The fuffles happening in
the Auckland council situation. They want to change the rules.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Yeah, they want to limit the amount of dogs that
dog waters allowed.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
Your new home for insightful and entertaining talk. It's Matt
Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons on news Talk Sebby.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
Very good afternoon to you. Seven past two. You're listening
to Tyler and Matt until four pm. Right, All is
not well in the world of dog walkers. Matt, Yeah,
that's right.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Tyler.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
So a dog walkers group, they have raised concerns over
the proposal to change Auckland's dog management rules to limit
the number of dogs one person can walk. So the
Professional dog Walkers Association raised their concerns at the Franklin
Local Board meeting on Tuesday, specifically on the proposal to
limit the number of dogs one person may walk both
on and off leash, so the association said professional dog

(41:02):
dog walkers or dog walkers who walk multiple dogs provide
a valuable service to the community and to people who
need to commute long distances in order to work. It
allows them to go to work safely knowing their dogs
are well exercised. Placing a limit on walking multiple dogs
would remove a large majority of professional dog walkers in

(41:23):
the Auckland region or increase their prices massively in order
to service a few at number of residents, making the
service basically prohibited to most people.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Yeah, I mean, is this the biggest issue around dogs?
I mean, there's a bunch of unregistered dogs out there,
there's problems with dogs running loose. The people that are
willing to play a dog walker and the people that
are willing to walk the dogs are actually the good
guys in the situation. I'd like to there to be
more dogs and more families and more dogs being walked.
And if dog walkers need to walk a lot of
dogs to keep prices down, then fine. And if they

(41:54):
can't handle it, then they will learn. There there's nothing
better than seeing a bunch of doggies out there walking
doggie having a great time. Dogs dogs love to be together.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
Heck here they do. They pack animals.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Families love having dogs, but we all work so hard
and so long we can't walk them. We have to
go to work, and more and more businesses like this
one we work for aren't allowing you to bring your
dogs to walk. So someone's got to work, so someone's
got to walk them.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
Well this tick straight away, Tyler, and I'm going to say,
we've got a dog walker we've just moved to.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
All that's fleshy.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
I'm going to give her a shout out. Actually, Becks
Pets is the name of the business, and she's great.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
Becks.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
So we had the meat and greet with our dog, Pepper.
She seemed legitimate, all good, and said, Pepper, Pepper the
dog part greyhound post my dog's called Colin, Yeah exactly,
So what kind of dog have you got? She's part greyhound,
part stuffy. She's sold in Pepper fast, that's why ye're
super fast. But she loves other dogs, so I don't
shely know if Beicks walks multiple dogs with Pepper, I

(42:58):
imagine she does. I mention she's got a big van.
She pulls up and there's all of Pepper's friends in there,
and she just goes have a massively fun time in
the afternoon. But to this stick, said Tyler, if you
can't look after your own dog, why in the hell
do you have one? We need to have a serious
talk about middle class pet ownership. You are a classic example.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Well, i'd say this, I'd answer this for you, Tyler.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
Please.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
You you have a dog and you look after it
by paying a dog walker to walk the dog.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
So you are looking at it like we can't. Who
are these people that are at home all day that
can walk their dogs every day? We can't. I mean
I'll walk my dog in the evening and in the morning.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
Yep, two two walks a day.

Speaker 15 (43:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
Well, I'll say to that, dear Textra as Pepper, that's
absolute lie. When we Tracy walks, the dogs got on
your Tracy. But when Bigs comes along, Pepper gets three
walks a day. So I walked to this morning. Then
Bis is more there just to provide a bit of
company for Pepper. That does sound very eligis excy the
more that I talk about it, And then when I
get home, either me or my partner may I.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
Did something the other day. You might judge me, and
feel free to judge me on eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty, but I had to leave Colin at home,
so I found a Norwegian walk on YouTube, so it
was all it was a walk. It was an hour
and a half walk through a beautiful Norwegian setting.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
You just put that on the telly would feel like
something's happening, because it's like va for dogs. Oh, one
hundred eighty ten eighty worried about them. If you're a
dog walker, professional dog walker, love to hear from you
on this one. How do you feel about this regulation?
Because I don't think there's anything wrong with walking multiple and.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
It's a ridiculous thing as well, because dogs come in
all different sizes. You may be able to walk one
hundred and one dalmatians, now that's ridiculous thing to say,
but ten big dogs is different from ten small dogs
and the type of dogs that you've got and the
personalities of the dogs, and you soon find that. And
there's are professional dog walkers, so they'll find out pretty
quickly if they're walking too many dogs and they can't
walk it. But I just don't think this is the

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big biggest problem in terms of dogs in the country
right now.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
I will say I think there's a lot of politics
at the dog park, specifically a dog park, but the
human politics. The dogs kind of figure it out themselves.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Absolutely. Some people that a new dog owners don't understand
that dogs need to have a bit of a r
to work out. And the worst thing for a dog
is a dog that doesn't get socialized and they don't
know the rules. Yeah, so you've got to get a
dog out as soon as you can with other dogs
so it earns learns the rules. And there was those
COVID dogs that never never got to meet other dogs
and they've never quite come right.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
That's why they get reactive.

Speaker 6 (45:20):
Right.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty love to hear from
you on this one. Nine two nine two is the
text number. It's twelve past two.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
Your new home of afternoon Talk and Heathen Taylor Adams
Afternoon call. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk ZEDB.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
Good afternoon to you. It is fourteen past two and
we're talking about potential changes to professional dog walkers. Auckland
Council were looking into this. They want to potentially limit
the number of dogs one person can take out at
one time. How do you feel about this? So eight
hundred eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Got a text here. My dog is currently at home
in the living room watching Scooby Doo Live on repeat.
My dog's at home listening to New storks 'b Hey Con,
you're a good boy. Hey go a good boy? What
a good boy?

Speaker 4 (46:04):
Colin?

Speaker 3 (46:04):
Poor buggerday listening to z B put back on the
Norwegian forest walk Morris.

Speaker 14 (46:11):
How you look?

Speaker 21 (46:11):
I think the counts that he order something. And you
listen to what the dog walking people are saying. We're
gonna have to charge war What a load of rubbish?
They take your dogs for an hour walk right? They
charge your thirty bucks. They've got twenty dogs on a thing,
so they're getting six hundred bucks an hour. Yep, you
know this is about them making money. It's not about
the dog. They're not even the control of half of them.

(46:33):
Yesterday I went and sewed up at Riverhead and the
old Celtics or whatever is it. You know, dollars even here,
dollars even to your leader for Diesel.

Speaker 22 (46:42):
There's a woman in the issue would.

Speaker 21 (46:43):
Have had twenty eight dogs a then a shitty old
highlus then my little Jack Russell looking about.

Speaker 10 (46:48):
The wind of garden.

Speaker 14 (46:49):
She was dead as it was.

Speaker 21 (46:50):
It's crazy sausage and he was a lucky bottle there.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Now, what's what's the name of your dog? Marris? Oh Pixie,
Oh Pisie. You sure Pixy wasn't going to.

Speaker 17 (47:01):
Be famous and cummy?

Speaker 23 (47:03):
She's a legend.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
And the QIB Rugby Club, what sort of breeders? Pixie?

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Jack Russell Russell with a little bit of Chihuaha. And
to Jack Russell, I've got to Jack Russell with a
little bit of a mini schnous are in there. That's
a great combat. Jack Russell is great.

Speaker 17 (47:16):
We used to have it.

Speaker 21 (47:17):
We used to have a neo mess but she passed
away at ten anyway, so now it's just me and
so you look at them and they got twenty eight dogs.
They walk them all in one gun. They're not in
control of them. You only need one lunatic in there,
and at all t is a chaos. So all it
means is those people then instead of walking twenty and
one go, they're going to do ten. So instead of
making six hunder bucks and now they're making the three hundred,

(47:38):
which is mass of money for a dog walker, you
know and all, and there's not a lot of overhead
and so used to count some extually onto the right thing. Oh,
I don't believe in this, bi Okras, and I think
the Council of Morons most of the time. But in
this instance you must be walking a reasona about a
number of dogs that you're actually in control.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Well, hey, Mars, I shouldn't be Morris. Do you think
we're on the level of issues with dog ownership and
dog regulations? You think dog walking is in terms of
things that need to be sorted out? How far down?

Speaker 21 (48:07):
Well, I think Wey is right, and you look at
this in a very straight thing. If I wanted to
have a daycare and look after children, you've got to
have X amount of staff to manage them.

Speaker 23 (48:17):
What's the different between.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Animals twenty eight kids in the back of a high as.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
Let them go?

Speaker 14 (48:26):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 21 (48:27):
And so you know, if you if you look at
the regulation around a daycare, which is children and dogs,
are you know, you're a middle class workroner and you
want your dog to go somewhere nice and you want
it to be looked after. That's why you're doing it.
You want the joy of owning the animal. You've got
a lot of responsibility, so you're going to say I
want this person to look after my animal for a
period of time and the day now. You personally want
to know that it's going somewhere good. There's good dog

(48:48):
walkers and bad dog walkers. Some dog walkers will say, hey,
this is all right, We're happy for that. Some will say,
oh no, because I'm here to make a buck. And
in reality is they all sit and say I love
the animals. I'm doing it for the animal, right rubbish?
You are you doing it because you want to put
to put a power in your pocket, and so there
needs to be a little regulation. If you're a farmer,
it's regulated. Most livestock businesses are regulated, aren't they.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Yeah, they are. You make you make some very very
good points there. I'd love to hear from a dog
walker out there. Undred eighty, ten eighty How many dogs
can you walk?

Speaker 4 (49:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (49:23):
What's your limit? What's your If you can walk thirty
at a time, how the hent you manage that?

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Twenty eight's a lot in the back of a high A. Yeah,
I'm thinking more around that. Because the number ten was
being bandied about, and I.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
Still a lot of dogs. I couldn't walk ten dogs
at one time.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Well, once again, it depends on the dog, isn't it. Yeah, Like,
if you've got ten massive dogs, one of those big dogs,
someone be able to tell me.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
Oh, the mountain dogs like the Burmese Mountain.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
Dog is an Alaskan dog that's absolutely massive. It's the
size of a beer. Ten of them would be a problem. Yeah,
But ten little Collins like my dog, I reckon no worries.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
Have you ever seen someone with multiple dogs down at
the dog park? I've seen it a couple of times,
and you know, me full of joy, yeah, but not
when they've been pulled off their feet and getting tangled
up Lesha's I feel really sorry. But at that point,
what do you do? You want to help them and think,
just let them off leash and go go nuts. Oh
eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. Quick text here from Ross absolutely how to

(50:21):
fix a problem that does not exist? Who came up
with this stuff? Totally agree? There are far more larger
issues around dog ownership and management than how many dogs
someone's walking.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Thank you for there, Ross.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
Yeah, it is nineteen past two back in the mow, Matt.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty on Youth Talk SB.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
Good afternoon, twenty two past to Murray. What's your thoughts
on the dog walkers?

Speaker 10 (50:50):
Yeah, I think that this dog walker if you don't
have a dog, you look after yourself and shouldn't have
the dog walkers with ten dogs on a leash. It's
a bit crazy, just sid. It's a bit like these
ladies and have babies men send them, send them to
a preschoolreade to check.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
You out there, Murray.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
So, Murray, you're saying, if you work long hours paying
your taxes in this country, then you shouldn't have a dog.
You shouldn't have a dog. You shouldn't if you if
you're willing to hang murray, if you're willing to pay
the money for a dog walker in the middle of
the day so you can have a dog and all
the joy that a dog brings to a family. Or

(51:31):
you know someone that's maybe living by their own and
and they're lonely, but they can't take their dog to walk.
Surely that's a good thing.

Speaker 10 (51:38):
People should only have one dog, and if they can
look after it properly, and if they're going to have
a couple of dogs or muliple dogs at home and
then take them out and get a dog walker to walk,
and they shouldn't have an animal.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Well, Murray, if you're willing to pay it though, Look, Tyler, Tyler,
you've got a dog.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
I do, and I like you, Murray, but I've got
a dog walker, but Pepper, So she gets a walk
in the morning, then we get the dog walker, so
she's got a bit of company in the afternoon because
we don't actually want to leave her alone for that
long because she's still quite young. She's eighteen months. So
surely that is good dog ownership that we don't want
her at home by herself for the whole day, but
she still gets walked on either side of the day.

Speaker 10 (52:19):
Yeah, well, you know, that's a sure way of thinking
about it.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
But he's you're a tough man, Murray, You're tough.

Speaker 10 (52:26):
That's one of these you know I've just said before
with these ladies heven babies and then getting into a daycare.
Well that's the sort of thing, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Well, thank you for cool, Murray. It's a slightly different thing,
but also baby walking sweet airs, twenty eight babies in
the back of a high ass. Well, we do, and
we have day care for children. Tell you the best
thing I ever did we were on holiday, one of
them the best I did a lot of great things
in my life. But we put our dog Colin into
ka when we were on holiday, and it was one

(52:56):
of these places where they have a CCTV footage, Yes,
and so you could check online we were on holiday
and you'd see Colin running around with twenty other little
dogs just having the best time. You'd run past, jump
over a part. In fact, we spend a lot of
the holiday just watching the cct footage and get this.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
Common Yeah, I love that. I'm with you. The place
that we had it was Doggie Daycare, and I know
that sounds a little bit cooked to most people. I
don't care that people was down. It was called WAG
and they'd put up the videos on Instagram and that
was the highlight of my day when there was a
wee post of Pepper running around like a mad thing.
Love that, Terrence.

Speaker 18 (53:29):
How are you, Curra?

Speaker 24 (53:31):
Yes, thank you for bringing this discussion to the table.
We've certainly been having a look at this issue. I
guess I currently sit on Hawkland Confluence. I'm an elected
member Brilliant and we've just had a good look at
this and I've been quite disappointed at the scope of
the bylaw and I think it needs to be opened
up much wider. In terms of the professional dog walkers,

(53:53):
we put in that a sensible solution would be to
have a license system, so if you are a professional,
you applied to obtain a license, and this would be
done on a competency and a knowledge test and also
having a look at the dog welfare elements.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
That sounds fair.

Speaker 24 (54:06):
I would suggest as well that there is strike system
for breaches, so you can lose your license if you
do breach that.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Yeah, And the discussion and so so that the number
of dogs that a dog walker can take it a
single at a certain time isn't the big issue for you.
It's the general compency of a dog walker.

Speaker 24 (54:26):
Overall, compared to a general person that's used to having
one dog and as suddenly is walking eight or ten dogs,
they may not have the knowledge or the training to
be able to handle that minute dogs or the policies
and procedures to manage them. Safely in an open environment
as well, or being able to transport them. I mean
the last quarter you had, or maybe it's yourself talking

(54:48):
about the van full of thirty dogs. I mean, personally,
I don't think that's a good wealth.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
It was only it was only it was only twenty eight.
But get your points.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
For a lot of dogs.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Twenty eight dogs and a Suzuki Swift just on.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
I mean, that's a hard one. That wasn't a dare
ad terance because there's a lot of say people are
in high school, they might be sixteen, seven, eighteen. They
see that as a good for their neighborhood and their
community that they want to earn a bit of cash,
and they say, hey, look I've got a bit of
free time after school, and I want to walk your
dog to make them get a license. That's quite a
bit of regulation at that point.

Speaker 24 (55:23):
Yeah, but that's only if you're having over six or
eight dogs.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Oh right, the high school.

Speaker 24 (55:28):
Student would still be able to go and pick up
the neighbor's dog and take them for a walk. Now,
I think that's a great thing. Socialized dogs for get
exercise and see other dogs are actually much better behaved
and safer dogs I think the bigger question is in
the discussion that should be had by counsel. In my view,
is that sixteen percent of dogs are currently unregistered and
the full cost of managing dogs is actually put on

(55:51):
responsible dog owners, So dangerous dogs, roaming dogs, all the
unregistered dogs, I mean, those owners aren't paying anything. They
don't really care about the laws because they don't register
their dog. Yet responsible dog owners, who pay one hundred
and sixty two to two hundred and thirteen dollars every
year to register their dog, they're the ones fronting the

(56:11):
full cost of managing those irresponsible dog owners. And just
because both parties have dogs doesn't mean that one is
responsible for the other. I think that's more of a
discussion that should be had. The other thing that's in
this eye law is actually prohibiting dogs from a number
of our regional parks and restricting access across the area,

(56:32):
whereas it should just be on lead. In my view,
a dog that is on lead is completely under control.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
You've got to let your dog off. That's when they
meet the other dogs. Dogs dogs off leash as a
you know, if you've got a bad dog, then that
that's on you and you shouldn't be taking your dog
out that causes problems, but.

Speaker 24 (56:51):
They're currently proposing to prohibit them entirely. You can't take
your dog there at all.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
That's something I'm going to ignore. Let my dog off.
I'll ignore that everywhere because my dog's a good dog
and doesn't cause anybody.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
As a newcomer to Auckland, Terrence in christ Church was
a bit of a dog heaven city, but Auckland even
more so. And I love that there are many off
leash parks pretty close, all within fifteen minutes of where
I am in Mount Wellington. That is huge. If Auckland
councils stop doing that, that would be a tragedy. You've
got to have those, but you've got to have those
areas where you can let the dog off LEAs and

(57:24):
have a run around and you're like.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
Point Chief Beach or Takapoon of Beach in the mornings.
It's fantastic all those dogs out there and it brings
it brings Aucklanders out and the owners of the dogs
meet each other and it's I think it's a really
really positive thing. And some people have bad dogs and
if they've got a bad dog, that's out there that's
behaving badly. Then I think that's a totally different issue.

Speaker 24 (57:44):
I agree, and I don't believe they should move straight
to prohibition of the dogs in certain areas. Yeah, an
issue that with the dogs there, they should be moving
to an on lead rather than prohibition in my view.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
Okay, thank you, sotearance, Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
So I've got a question for another one of my
parnishing little questions.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
Here we go.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
How many dogs do we have in New Zealand? Oh yeah,
right now, okay, how many dogs in New Zealand?

Speaker 3 (58:10):
All right, let me just do some quick make of
the envelope mathematics here. So there's Russia abous five million
people out of five million New Zealanders, I reckon probably
ownership is around twenty five percent. So I'm going to
say there are one point one million dogs in New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
Okay, Well that's Tyler's guest nine two knowin two what
do you think? How many dogs have we got in
New Zealand?

Speaker 3 (58:36):
It is two thirty.

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Speaker 3 (59:54):
Thank you very much, Roylean. It is twenty seven to three,
and we're talking about dog walkers. There are some regulations
being looked at to tighten up some of the rules
around professional dog walkers. And we had a call from
a counselor in Takapuna who said that they or he
would advocate for a license system to stop the cowboys.
If you want to walk more than six dogs, I
think he said that you would require a license that

(01:00:16):
said eight. I think eight. That would be based on competency.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Yeah, but I just don't think is that you know,
you're regulating things that. Sure, maybe it might be a
slight problem, but is that the biggest problem in the
dog world at the moment? Is that where you want
to spend your time? That's what I'd say. I think
unregistered dogs and mistreatment of dogs as a much bigger issue.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
Yeah. Now, you threw out a bit of a question
before the headlines.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
So I asked how many dogs are there in New Zealand? Tyler?
What was your guess?

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
I think from memory was it about it was one
point one million?

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Yeah, okay. According to a twenty twenty two Companion Animals
New Zealand report, there were eight hundred and fifty thousand
dogs in New Zealand. That's twenty twenty two one point
two million cats. Who one hundred and twenty thousand pet rabbits.
It's only more rabbits out there with the horrible Central
Targo round on pets. Yeah, yeah, seventy thousand horses and

(01:01:08):
one point three seven million fish petfish as well. I
mean I've got more fish than that than to see.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
Yeah, yeah, have you got a petfish?

Speaker 4 (01:01:16):
I did?

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Petfish are a pain in the ass goldies.

Speaker 20 (01:01:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
The cleaning of the tank is an absolute wounder.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
Never saw, never saw why people do it. Yeah, I'm
nice to look at when you go around and they've
got a beautiful tank set up, operation going on.

Speaker 20 (01:01:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
We had a golfish called Apple when I was said
when when Apple passed? Yeah, the good fish was a
big fish, got out of the tank at one point,
flapped around on the ground. I got up in the morning,
put it back in the tank, came back. Yeah, Apple
was a good fish. But yeah, there you go. One
hundred and fifty thousand dogs and that's including unregistered dogs.

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
And rest in peaced apple. Apple. Jonathan, mate, today, how's
it going good?

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
You're a dog walker? Jonathan?

Speaker 4 (01:01:53):
I am.

Speaker 5 (01:01:54):
I actually own a dog walking business based in Auckland.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Brilliant, You're the perfect person to talk to. What do
you think about this?

Speaker 5 (01:02:02):
Yeah, well, I think it's it's an interesting case. I'm
I'm totally I think it's a case of where two
things can be true at the same time. I'm absolutely
with you guys in your opinion, but also maybe even
controversially because a lot of dog walkers would really have
hated to hear what Terrence was saying the counter worker,
But I'm one hundred percent agreement with them too, So

(01:02:25):
I'm writing both the lines, and I think I think
it's really really important for people to understand that dog
walking isn't new in the world. You know, dog walking exists,
you know New York, big cities all around the world
for the for the longest, longest time, but growing up
a dog walking as a career never ever would have
existed in New Zealand until very recently. So my business

(01:02:48):
started as a sort of result of the pandemic. Got
really lucky because during the pandemic everyone got a puppy
because they sort of you know, I guess young young
families wanted to focus their attention or something positive, everyone
got a kavoodle or a leper doodle and now everyone's
back at work and there's a massive boom happening. And

(01:03:11):
when I say massive, it's a really massive boom of
you know, business opportunity of people who have had it
rough in the last few years and they're looking for
a different opportunity, a different career, something that they can
get outside and exercise, something where you know, it's a
bit of a shift for them mentally, they're out in
the sun, they're doing something for their mental health and
earning money at the same time. And the opportunity has

(01:03:34):
come up and now in New Zealand is actually just
to go with your statistics there, I've found out recently
that New Zealand is the second highest dog owners per
capita than than any anywhere in the world other than Brazil.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:03:49):
So yeah, so it's happening, you know, and as the
dogs have come, the business has come with it, and
that's just you know, a natural progression. But there is
there's a the problem. The problem lies. It's absolutely true
that there are really bad dog walkers out there and

(01:04:10):
we see it every single day, and it is it
would make your hair curl to hear the stories that
we have seen from bad dog walkers out there, and
it really hurt to see it because they have no
idea what they're doing. They don't know the first thing
about dogs or dog psychology. And in my business, we're lucky.
I'm a dog trainer and with my knowledge, I've been

(01:04:32):
able to train my employees to be excellent dog handlers.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
So how many a good dog walker? How many dogs
would you suggest per good dog walker?

Speaker 5 (01:04:44):
Yeah, well, this is where I agree with the council.
There has to be a limit on the dogs that
a dog walker is using. And I've been working with
the logo the Council just lately in creating the framework,
and they're basing our safety management system they're using our
safety management systems change to change those bylaws that Terence
was talking about. And so so for example, my company,

(01:05:10):
we strictly walk no more than seven dogs in a pack,
So we suit for six because six feels like harmony.
The dogs are calm, the dogs are content, they're not overstimulated.
But when you get at the moment you go to
eight dogs, it's too much for them. They're bouncing off
each other and the energy.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
J irrespective of the size of the dogs, six small
dogs or six big dogs? Does that matter?

Speaker 5 (01:05:33):
Well, so now it's something to talk about the gray
areas of this. This is so in our groups, what
we find is that we wish it for harmony. And actually,
if you have a mix of big too small dogs,
the smaller dogs respects the bigger dogs. There's a hierarchy
and the dog psychology now that we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
So I have a dog, sorry, so a mix is
the best way to go.

Speaker 5 (01:05:57):
So we really enjoy it when really it's actually that energy.
So if you imagine like there's a little deck crust,
the all bounces off the walls, have lots of energy.
They feel more calm around a bigger more stoic sort
of you know, interesting got a leamburger or you know
a bigger dog that is karma and slower. They calm
down around a dog with karma energy. And so we

(01:06:20):
do it sort of based on personality, if believe it
or not. Dogs together. Yeah, so some dogs could be
big and slow, some dogs can be small and feisty.
But if you have a dogs that work together and
fit sites and then you have harmony and it feels good,
and then it's much safer for everyone involved.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
Now, Jonathan, you sound like you're running a top, top,
top level operation there. It sounds impressive. There's a little
bit of it though from you that if regulation comes in,
then an established owner like you can run a business
without people just starting up and flooding flooding the market.

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
You get rid of the cowboys and then it's just
left with professionals like you who know what they're doing.
It sounds like you know what you're doing, so.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
From a business perspective as well as your belief around
dogs and the best you know for the dogs as well,
a little bit must be for you if these regulations
and it's better for your business.

Speaker 5 (01:07:16):
Yeah, you're not wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
There is that.

Speaker 5 (01:07:19):
I think I've always there's always talk with the dog
walking community people. They're always connected with each other, and
I'm sure that maybe this conversation would be on a
Facebook group somewhere. Absolutely, you know, did you hear that
guy saying what he's going to do? You know what
that dog walking guy is going to want to do
to the to the industry, And I wouldn't be in business.

(01:07:39):
Blah blah blah. One thing that is really important is
dog walker. So what happened was people who don't know
anything about dog training, dog psychology. What they realized is
that if they can clip the ticket enough time. So
you know how you were joking about twenty three dogs
in a Suzuki, Yeah, you laugh about that. It's happening.
People are really they'll buy a van. They'll buy a

(01:08:00):
van and they'll put cages in it and they'll pack
it full of as many dogs as they can take
them to one location. And the dogs, the energy bouncing
around the dogs, they're so overstimulated that any sort of
you know, people have been walking, you know, their little
little dogs in the park and have been murdered. The
dogs have been killed, and it's absolutely terrifying as twenty

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three dogs run at you and they're doing what's come
naturally to a dog pack, which is hunting. You know,
they get to that point where they're feeling primal and
they're feeling so excited that they'll ragged all. You know,
a dog out with mum for a walk.

Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
I have seen it, you know, I've seen that dog
behavior when and it's professional dog walkers, or maybe it's
just someone who owns a lot of dogs, but with
pepper and she'll go gingerly up to this pack, and
the pack will tell her if she's not welcome. And
luckily she's a submissive dog, which works for her. And
she's quick. She needs to get away. She's greyhound, so
she'll get away. But what about off leash? Do you
do off leasures it primarily or solely only?

Speaker 24 (01:09:00):
No, we do.

Speaker 5 (01:09:00):
We do a mixture of both. So the dogs are
sort of they're sort of bouncing around like crazy when
you first pick them up. They're excited to be there.
So we take them to a safe fenced area. And
one of the most amazing things about Auckland, to your
point earlier, is that we are so lucky to have
amazing off lead dog areas all over the city. It's

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it's heaven for dogs here. And the mistakes that I
worry that the council will make is that they're talking
about limiting those places. But when you limit those spaces,
guess what everyone's going to have to go to the
same places, which are going to overcrowd them exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
You're passing the good people and the lovers of dogs. Hey, so, Jonathan,
you sound like you're running a top notch operation there.
And two questions for you one. How much do you
charge and to what's the name of your business?

Speaker 5 (01:09:49):
Yeah, yeah, I believe. I believe we're the best dog
walkers in Auckland. To stand by that, my company is
called Poope. It's a fun little plan words there. They're
tired and we pick up the at the same time.
So Pope dog walking, Pope dogs dot coto in is
it and we charge. So I call what we do

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a premium service because of the because of the care
that we we we take and at the pent how
many you book and so our walk start from forty
two dollars per walk if you're booking in five a week,
and they go down to forty nine fifty if you're
just booking one in a week.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
All right, okay, that sounds like the top of the
blue chap operation.

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
Very good, Jonathan, Thank you very much. Great to chat.
It is sixteen to three Back of the Month.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between. Mat Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons you
for twenty twenty four used talks.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
They'd be good afternoon, Lee. How are you not.

Speaker 18 (01:10:49):
So bad dog? Yes, we have our own we don't
we have a lifestyle block, so we don't need to
take them about publicly. But I I was struck by
all what a caller said about three callers ago, saying,
if you are too busy working, you shouldn't have dogs

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or children and not put them into an air of
a dog walker and children into a schooler. Yes, that's nonsense.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
Yeah lean, Yeah, Murray was That was Murray, and I
like Murray, but that was cheap as muss.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
I mean we need I mean dogs are so good
for good for people. They're good for everyone's mental health.
They make people happy. But we also have to work
and we have to get out and about. So the
idea that you can't have a dog if you're not
there all day with it is as an extreme opinion.

Speaker 18 (01:11:45):
Yeah, children and dogs need socializing with their own kind greed.
It's cruelty to them to isolate them, they and the
dogs especially, not only to get used to being around
other dogs, They've got to get used to being around
other people and.

Speaker 17 (01:12:04):
Lee.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
When we had little kids, we sent them along to here,
not because we couldn't see them during the day because
one of us was at home in my relationship, but
because we wanted them to socialize with other children in
the day. That was actually the primary motivator for us
to get them give them out there. Yeah, because it's
so important from the younger stage possible that that humans

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get to see other humans, as you say, Lee, and
dogs get.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
To see other dogs, both social animals.

Speaker 18 (01:12:31):
Yeah, yep, I really agree.

Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
Yeah, I mean that's why, And thank you very much, Lee.
That we paid quite a bit of money to put
Pepper into dog care and christ Shish. I think it
was about one hundred and fifty bucks a week and
she was going three days a week, so that was
a lot of cash for us. But she was a
rescue dog and like a lot of rescue dogs, sometimes
they come with a view issues because she had a
bit of a tough start to life as a rescue dog.

(01:12:56):
But that was critical to have her around other dogs
and to have that socialization as you say, and some
of the dogs she didn't get on that well with
some of the dogs she got on famously with, but
that was important and now she freaking loves dogs. I
didn't take her to a dog park and being and
know they have to get she's not going to get
into trouble.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
They have to get socialized. Earlier us. They send the
wrong signal to other dogs and they get in trouble.
But is anyone running a business and I've just had
a business idea a daycare that's kid and dog. So
you pump a bunch of kids into a daycare and
then you pump a bunch of dogs.

Speaker 3 (01:13:26):
In the same area.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
Yeah woo, that would make the kids and the dogs
very happy. I mean, obviously you don't want to want to.
You don't want to pump a bier in there either.
The kids will not. Although you know, one of my
sons was a bit of a bier at daycare for
a while.

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
And how many trainers to kid dog ratio? We rock
And here are we saying?

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
You know, I reckon if my little dog Colin, Yeah,
you could pump you could pump ten ten dogs in
with with with twenty kids. That would be a great time.

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
There would be a great time.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
That would be a very very good time for both
dog and child.

Speaker 3 (01:13:55):
We'd be loving that. CCTV footage. Oh, eight hundred and eighty.
Ten eighty is the number to call.

Speaker 25 (01:13:59):
It's ten to three the issues that affect you and
a bit of fun along the way.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
Matt Taylor Adams Afternoons. You for twenty twenty four you talk.

Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
News Talks b it is eight minutes to three, Teresa.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
What do you think?

Speaker 4 (01:14:16):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
I can't sorry. What do you think about dog walkers
and dog walker limits and should we be regulating dog walkers?

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 25 (01:14:24):
I hey guys in the show.

Speaker 3 (01:14:27):
Thanks mate.

Speaker 14 (01:14:29):
I I like the topic.

Speaker 25 (01:14:33):
I think that the local councils to be focusing on
this of all things in the status that I mean
dogs in general. But it's like, yeah, there's lots of
other issues that councilors could be working on that. I'm
glad Lee rung Up. I listened to to Murray say
his base and I just could not disagree more.

Speaker 3 (01:14:56):
He came in hot Muzzlee's a good man.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
The way the empathy that Lee brought him too that
situation was much needed. So we probably we probably should
have pushed back harder and Murray on that one.

Speaker 25 (01:15:08):
I was, yeah, that was going to be my role.
But I mean, if if you have kids, you're not
allowed to get a babysitter or.

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
Having a bad day, an't usually that controversial down the middle.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
He was he was having got day here and babysitters.

Speaker 25 (01:15:25):
Yeah, anyway, So I've got a dog, and and and
we we don't walk her enough. We can't afford We're
in Hamilton and we can't afford to pay somebody to
walk our dog. We're a single income family and my
wife so with mental health, and it just it just
doesn't work. So we take it for a walk as

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much as we can. But it's she wasn't growing up
around dogs, and she doesn't know like the guy was
saying before about about dogs psychology and it's so important.
You can have eight dog walkers out there and one
of them knows what dogs are like when they come
across an aggressive dog or you need to know to

(01:16:09):
dogs and in general, like yeah, to be walking ten
dogs and yeah, just have no idea about what could
happen is Yeah, I don't know. It's our dog is shocking.
She will go up to a dog and just and
just bother them and bother them and bother them and
just be too much until they until they have a go.

(01:16:31):
And no matter how no matter how much we try
and teach her about other dogs, she's just clueless.

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
So do you have a bit of a section Do
you have a bit of section in Hamilton? KHN.

Speaker 19 (01:16:42):
Yeah, we had it by Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
Yeah, I mean that's that's a bit different than than
a dog being stuck in an apartment all day like
you see those New York City dogs. But if a
dog's a bit of a section and dog can get
out and have a bit of a run around and
a bit of a sniff, that that's a that's a
very different situation.

Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
Yeah, but I hear what you're saying, Kard. I mean
we're lucky with Pepper is that she's not reactive. But
we've had two resky dogs sas bless her heart. We
got her when she was pretty old. We think she
was a ten, and again she had a really really
bad history. But lovely dog, but super reactive. She just
hated other dogs because she didn't obviously didn't get that
socialization when she was young, but that we were on

(01:17:18):
tenderhowks any time or at a dog park could very
rarely let her off leash because if she saw a
dog and she was just a small dog, she would
go for them and end up second best. But that
was tough.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
But Karmuck's really good point about dogs and mental health.
I've done these studies and they found that just a
dog being in a room with humans because we have
had that symbiotic relationship as with evolved dogs and humans.
It'll make humans feel better just a dog being in
a room. Patting a dog makes people feel better. And
someone that's lonely that gets a dog goes a long
way to making them feel better about life. So I
think dogs are a very very important part of our society.

Speaker 3 (01:17:51):
Agree, Andrew. We've got about forty seconds, my friend.

Speaker 6 (01:17:55):
I'm just bringing up from Sunny Gisland. I just doggy daycare. Yeah,
thirty five dollars a day, ate thirty pickup, four crock
drop offs.

Speaker 23 (01:18:05):
Dog is naked.

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
That's a deal. What's the name of the business.

Speaker 6 (01:18:09):
There's been doggie day here?

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
Oh yeah, that's easy.

Speaker 4 (01:18:11):
Yeah, yep.

Speaker 3 (01:18:12):
And do they have Instagram or CCTV? Can you see
what your dog's up to?

Speaker 17 (01:18:17):
Every night?

Speaker 6 (01:18:17):
You get about eighty photos put.

Speaker 3 (01:18:19):
Up here and all the running round and there is.

Speaker 6 (01:18:24):
They take them too. That's that's allowed, and it's really good.
And yeah, it's just brilliant for me.

Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
Good man, Good on you, Andrew. Yeah, love that chat.
Right after three o'clock we're going to be talking about
campaign Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine is
the text number.

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
Talking with you all afternoon It's Matt Heath and Taylor
Adams Afternoons you for twenty twenty four news Talks.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
It'd be welcome back into the show. Good afternoons you
met and Tyler with you until four p m. And
great discussion about the dogs. We'll put that one to
bed for now. Just a quick shout out to where
Doggie day here and christ Hitch love you guys, miss
you guys. That's where people went and they sent through
are we message saying that they miss Pepper. So that's
how good they were good.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
A little shout out my dog Colin because I left
you'd be on at home. Oh Goldin, you're a good boy.

Speaker 4 (01:19:13):
What a good boy.

Speaker 3 (01:19:14):
You're going to get preached when dad he gets home, Colin.
But right now we are talking about camping.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
Yeah, that's right. Camping is proving more and more popular,
with many Northland campgrounds already booked out for the summer.
So is classic key we camping in a campground or
wherever you should camp the best holiday you can have.
Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty. You meet people,
you're not isolated from other families. You can play cricket,

(01:19:41):
touch rugby with strangers, your kids run around and meet
other people. I feel sorry for as saying before that.
I was camping last year at a great campground, Parkerty,
and I was thinking to myself, billionaires on their super
yachts missing out on the experience, the communal New Zealand
experience of camping. And then you make your you go

(01:20:03):
into the facilities and your make staff, and you meet
people on the way the showers, and you're walking around
with your little trundler with your stuff on it, and.

Speaker 3 (01:20:12):
Now old boy with a tractor who's picking up all
the rubbish in the morning eve in your wave.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
Absolutely you're sitting out the front of your tent when
another family turns up or another people turn up, and
you watch them erect their tent, and that night you
go and have a beer with them, You come friends
with them. It's just such a great experience and it's
not the most expensive camping experience. And I'd like to
know how much money people think they need to spend,

(01:20:37):
because you have those campers that have the most impressive
setups you've ever seen.

Speaker 3 (01:20:41):
But you always find those guys, the one that bought
the fridge. You make friends with them real quickly.

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
Yeah, they'll have a dining area, they'll have a whole
bunch of different tents. Some people are running fridges. Whatever
you want to do. But it's definitely not the most
expensive holiday. But I believe it is the best holiday
experience you can have, the most wholesome, and you're away
from your normal life, because if you're staying in a
hotel or whatever holiday experience you might do, it's not

(01:21:08):
that different from your life. But you go back to
what it is to be human, which is to sleep
essentially outside with your family around you. Then you focus
one hundred percent on breakfast, and then maybe you go
for a swim, a bit of hunter and gathering, maybe
you go fishing. Then it's lunchtime, and then you're looking
around at your watch and doing that very human thing
of having a beer.

Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
Ye as a past midday. Yet when you crack that
first beer, it's a good sound, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
You're never closer to your family, and you're never closer
to other New Zealanders than when you're camping. And sure
there's problems. Maybe there'll be some idiots, especially around New
Years that that are causing problems, but that's all part
of it too.

Speaker 3 (01:21:43):
Kids thought it. That's the teenager.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
Yeah, and there's nothing that's so cool when your kids
run off and meet other other kids and become best
friends and they come running past or riding past on
a bike with some strange kids a pack the form.
It's just the absolute best thing in my opinion.

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
You'd put that above the airbnb obviously, even the super yacht.
You put that above the batch, the Kiwi Batch.

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
Yeah, I mean you can have that at a Kiwi Batch, absolutely,
but you still become isolated. We're still behind fences often
we're behind walls. But just being behind canvas and just
sitting out on here canvas tents is sitting out on
the front of your tent on a camp cheer. It's
it's just such a back to what it is to

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be human experience, if you ask me.

Speaker 3 (01:22:29):
So, you've got the hierarchy. So it starts off with
the tense dwellers, then it moves up to the camper
van dwellers. Yeah, they step above tins, are they ah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
Well, stip above? I don't know if they have a
better experience potentially are part of that. You're in a
caravan with an aorning out the front. You're basically experiencing
the same thing.

Speaker 3 (01:22:47):
Then it moves up to the Kiwi Batch guys, so
they're still kind of in the gang, but they're a
little bit outside.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
Yeah, I mean, that's a there's no doubt that the
Kiwi Batch is a great time, especially if you go
there every summer and you get to know the families
around about then that becomes a thing. At the very bottom,
it's the super yacht with the billionaire family.

Speaker 3 (01:23:02):
Poor buggers to private shifts.

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
Well, I've talked to people that have worked on super yachts,
and I know a friend of mine. She worked on
a billionaire's yacht, and she was saying that it's a
very grim time. The family's always say they're going to
turn up, and then there's a phone call and they don't,
and the boat's ready for them to arrive, and everyone
hustles gets it as clean as they possibly can, and
then then the one member of the family doesn't turn up,

(01:23:25):
and then another one doesn't. Then one turns up and
looks around for a day and then goes off, and
then then the boat just hits, just pulls out and
goes somewhere else and hopefully they might meet up in
New Yorker or something. How boring, Yeah, how boring. Yeah,
I'm going to say it. It's better than a billionaire's holiday.

Speaker 3 (01:23:41):
Oh, eight hundred eighty eighty is tinting the ultimate Kiwi
camping holidays. Matt Heath just said, nine two ninety two
is the text number. And where do you go on
your summer camping trip? Because there's a lot of families
out there that go to the same place every year,
the same lot. You would have been one of those
families as a kid. Yep, Krii Terry Terry for us.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
Yeah, we go to Clyde.

Speaker 3 (01:24:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:24:05):
And that one year that the parents said we're not
going to go to Kaiteri Terry this year we lost
a lot. Never got it back.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
You never got it back.

Speaker 3 (01:24:12):
No, you've got to keep going or you're out. You're
out of the system.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
These kids that I met for one summer when I was,
you know, under ten, that I remember to this day,
never saw them again.

Speaker 3 (01:24:22):
Well, they used to have mister Kay Terry so Ki
Territory Beach. A lot of people would know it just
out of Moteweka near Nelson. But that was the highlight
of summer. And my mate was mister KAYTERII for one year.
Really he was a cock of the walk on the beach.
It was it was what was the criterion. He had
a pretty good set of abs. Actually back then at
seventeen years old, you know he was here was a

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pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:24:43):
Cricketer, right, Okay, Yeah, he's.

Speaker 3 (01:24:46):
Just based purely on looks. There was a mister Kiterion
and missus Kyterry.

Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
You never heard that at Clyde Camping Green eight.

Speaker 3 (01:24:51):
Hundred eighty ten eighty. Love to hear from you on this.
It is thirteen past three oh eight hundred's eighty ten
eighty is the number to call. We're talking about the
ultimate Kiwi camping experience. Matt is firmly in team Tent.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
Absolutely it's the best holiday you can and that's why
a lot of Northern campgrounds already sold out ahead of
the summer.

Speaker 3 (01:25:12):
John, what's your take on it?

Speaker 26 (01:25:14):
Yeah, there guys, it's a bit as holidays you can have.
Uh my wife and I we we have had a
family bench but we're still our Christmas camping and favorite
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Speaker 9 (01:25:29):
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Speaker 27 (01:25:32):
Rush There he had.

Speaker 3 (01:25:34):
The market, didn't he does he run the supermarket that's right?

Speaker 4 (01:25:37):
Yeah? Yeah.

Speaker 26 (01:25:37):
His brother, the kid run the good campground there, yeah jeez.

Speaker 14 (01:25:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:25:43):
And he would always have the whities against the brows
from the touch tournament.

Speaker 24 (01:25:46):
You imagine why one.

Speaker 26 (01:25:48):
You can imagine why one that. But but I think
once you say you're about expense, I think, once you've
got all your gear and you look after it and
you put it away properly, you know, and it's there again.

Speaker 18 (01:26:00):
For the next year.

Speaker 17 (01:26:01):
You know, once you got it all, it's freaking to
me an expensive.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
Well, I'm going to tell you a story of shame
for me, John. I put the tent away when it
was wet couple of years ago, and I knew it
was my fault when when when we were driving up there,
I was like, hang on, I'm gonna I started remember,
and when we opened it up, it was had black
mold all the way through it, and then I just
had it was starting to rain and everyone was waiting
and I had to scrub the tent down before we

(01:26:25):
could go into it because it was it was basically toxic.
So gotta you got to dry it out before you
put it away. Gotta do it.

Speaker 14 (01:26:32):
Yeah, that's right, that's there, right.

Speaker 3 (01:26:34):
Yeah, I love it. What's what sort of tent system
do you have going on? Do you have like a
base camp tent where it's usually like a two room
operation and then the kids are in the two person tent.

Speaker 26 (01:26:45):
I had one of those and wanting on the on
the front of it, the dining room there in the
in the fridge. But I've got a permanent site of
the caravan now with a canvas on yep, just out
of Orbland, a little beach called Martin's Bay, and we
still camp. You know, it's still like camping, but we

(01:27:06):
do have all the same neighbors, but it's uns all
kids are growing up together and you know, that's just great.

Speaker 24 (01:27:12):
It's just good times.

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
Yeah, And there's something about it, getting back to as
I was saying before, being a human. You know, you've
just got a bit of canvas between you and and
you and your neighbors, neighbors, you can hear all the sounds,
all the animals, you know, especially if you leave the
sausages out, you can definitely hear the seagulls.

Speaker 3 (01:27:28):
In the morning.

Speaker 4 (01:27:30):
Yeah, yeah, that's well.

Speaker 26 (01:27:33):
One time throwing a baby there was there these two
couples and they must have had a big fall out.

Speaker 18 (01:27:40):
You can hear them more around the campground.

Speaker 3 (01:27:43):
Yeah, that's right, that definitely happens.

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
Yeah, you've got to be a harmonious family or as
everyone knows.

Speaker 3 (01:27:48):
And it's slightly awful, but you know, it's kind of
a little bit exciting as well if you hear an
argument at the campground.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
So what's going on there? Do you know the first
thing that comes into my head when I think about
camping as a kid, baked beans with sausages and them
baked beans with sausages.

Speaker 3 (01:28:01):
Oh yeahesh, Yeah, good times. Yeah, eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty is the number to call, is hinting the
best Kiwi camping experience. Craig doesn't agree with you, Matt,
He says, guys, get real a flash hotel or a
sweety stinky tin. Yeah right, done the camping thing and
it's not for me. Don't get me started on the

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shared ebolutions and cooking areas from Craig.

Speaker 2 (01:28:25):
I love the shared cooking area, getting the little trolley out,
you pull you all your stuff over there, you cook
the meal there. I mean, you want to barbecue out
the front of your tent if you can. But doing
the dishes, meeting people, that's fantastic. A hotel room when
the door locks on you and you're isolated from the world,
I mean your only only interaction is with the concierge. Yeah, no, oh,

(01:28:46):
that's not a good experience.

Speaker 3 (01:28:48):
Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. It's nineteen past three.

Speaker 4 (01:28:57):
Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams.

Speaker 1 (01:28:58):
Afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty on used
talk ZV.

Speaker 3 (01:29:02):
Very good afternoon to you. It's twenty one past three.
We're talking about the ultimate Kiwi camping experience.

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
Yeah, Northland camping sites are almost sold out, so you
probably need to book soon if you're going to go
to a camping site because people love camping, because it's
the best holiday you can have.

Speaker 3 (01:29:18):
I'll throw this one at you because I have been
to the quintessential key We campground for a few summers
and I would love to go back because very fond memories,
especially at Kai Terry Terry Beach. But so May's family
is likely enough to have a batch in the mobl sounds.
But when we go over summer, we pitch a tent
and do it that way. Is that a similar thing, Matt,
Is that still getting the full experience. And there's a

(01:29:39):
lot of people at this particular batch, all the rallies
and the cousins and the aunties of art. So there's
twenty five people here.

Speaker 2 (01:29:46):
Yeah, you know that. That's fantastic, isn't it. So you're
saying you're pitching tents in front of the batch, Yeah, yeah,
absolutely fantastic. I mean you're not going to meet the strangers,
which is a problem, but anytime family can get together
and there is something special about. You can't do it
all year round. Obviously, it becomes punishing, that turns into
a trailer park situation. But over summer, spending a couple

(01:30:07):
of weeks sleeping in a ten is so invigorating. It
gets you back to what it means to be a
human with nomadic species.

Speaker 3 (01:30:14):
Well, just saying that, Tahuna Nui and Nelson and I've
got a big campground there and there's a section there
for people that live there, so they stay there all
the time through whatever season. I sometimes envy those guys
because they're just living the camp in life all the time.
They look like they're having.

Speaker 2 (01:30:30):
A ball of the time she had a blution's block. Yeah,
twenty four seven, three sixty five.

Speaker 3 (01:30:34):
It's a tough maybe. Yeah, Goldie, how are you?

Speaker 14 (01:30:38):
How are you doing? Actually my name's not Goldie, it's Dennis.
Oh the jobs are Goldie, you guys, I'm listening to
you fellows. Ere Well, I picked up from Para param
yesterday and came up to white A Rary. There's a
campaign of a little caravan with the lirning out the
front barbecue. Here cheers jobs those I say, the jobs

(01:31:00):
are goldie. Beautiful camp, lovely little camp site. Here I've
got I've been down the beach, tried for a fish,
but nothing else. Come back. It's wine tig wine time
now sitting outside on the tier with a button of
mine and you can't wish for anything else.

Speaker 2 (01:31:17):
Three twenty four pm and a bottle of wine.

Speaker 14 (01:31:21):
Oh well, you've got to my agent.

Speaker 3 (01:31:23):
Oh you speak my language. There we'd be right right
next to your caravan, having a few wines with you,
for this was over summer.

Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
If we could broadcast from there beside you with that
bottle of wine, we'd be right down there in half
an hour.

Speaker 14 (01:31:34):
Oh Jesus, we need more than one bottle of line mate.

Speaker 3 (01:31:37):
Yeah, yeah too, right, And if you got many people
around your dinner or are you kind of just rocking in?

Speaker 14 (01:31:41):
There's a couple of couple of campus down here, a
couple of campus next to me, and motor homes and
maland but I've only got a little living foot caravan
with an awning out and it's just me and my
dog and I'm all hooked up on power. Beautiful women, campground,
lovely facilities. I put a bit of a pun in film.

(01:32:02):
It's hydabad camp and white reary. Very nice.

Speaker 2 (01:32:06):
Yeah, and what's what's the name of you, Dennis Kirsty.

Speaker 14 (01:32:10):
She's a weak tired guide dog beautiful. Yes, No, she's
a lady's eyes break hears and now they retire her.
She's an old man's guide dog now.

Speaker 3 (01:32:20):
Very nice and Anson Kirsty. Gee, So on the camp
a van setup, do you have a teally in the
camp of van.

Speaker 14 (01:32:27):
It's a little caravan. Yes, I've got a telly. I've
got a microwave, I've got a toilet, I've got oh,
I'm pretty well, pretty sweet. I've got one of these
what do they call them? Brass monkey fridge is like
a it's a cracker Actually it's it's it's like a big, big,
over sized coolie bany and you can plug it into

(01:32:47):
your car as you're going along, or you when you get.

Speaker 3 (01:32:50):
To the camp go into the old nine vault.

Speaker 23 (01:32:52):
Crack.

Speaker 3 (01:32:53):
Yeah, just plug it into the nine bolt, don't you.

Speaker 14 (01:32:56):
No, I've got twelve vocal or other twelve volcan in
the car or otherwise two forty volcan on the power system.

Speaker 3 (01:33:02):
Here mate, you're living the dream. Dennis.

Speaker 2 (01:33:03):
Yeah, what a great setup for Dennis and Kirsty.

Speaker 3 (01:33:06):
Sam. How are you, my friend?

Speaker 23 (01:33:08):
Oh, I'm good things for great show you it, Matt.
It should never pack a wet tint.

Speaker 3 (01:33:16):
Shame, shame, shame you do it. His name, it's Matt.

Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
You do it once and you never do it again.

Speaker 7 (01:33:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:33:22):
I definitely did that last summer. Actually, I didn't want
to mention it. The canvas ones and it's worse when
we unrolled it in front of the the in laws
and man, I got an absolute bollocking the time.

Speaker 2 (01:33:35):
With dishwashing liquid.

Speaker 3 (01:33:37):
May have refused to sleep in it at one stage
because she thought she was going to get sick. It
was just a bad time all around. Don't do it, yeah,
and it was.

Speaker 2 (01:33:43):
It was our second year with our new canvas kakapo Key,
we camping tent as well. So it was second year
we were so proud of our tent. And then then
yeah I did that, But anyway, it's back then it's
good up.

Speaker 23 (01:33:56):
Yeah, so I've been actually camping since I it's two
I'm seventy years old now and I still camp and
I camp in the window.

Speaker 2 (01:34:05):
Oh really, So you've got a you've got a good,
good set up. Then I'm engine I've.

Speaker 23 (01:34:10):
Got it's more like glamy night they call it now boys, Yes, yeah,
And so what have you got your last here you go,
I'm like the last call. I've got a brass monkey fridge,
I plug into a power site. I've got a large
volume Empire made a New Zealand inflatable tent.

Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
Oh yeah, so you've got one of the you've got
one of the the the Yeah, I really want one
of them. That's a game changer, isn't it?

Speaker 23 (01:34:37):
Oh totally totally. But got all the gear, all the
it really is glamby and I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:34:44):
Fast.

Speaker 2 (01:34:44):
How fast is you set up from arriving at site
to inflating the tent? How fast can you get that up? Stamp.

Speaker 23 (01:34:51):
Oh about twenty minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:34:52):
That's good. Eh, yeah, that's good.

Speaker 23 (01:34:54):
I mean that can be a test out the ground.

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
That can be the test of your relationship at the
start of the campaign when you're trying to put the layout,
all the tent poles and try and put it together
in the first half days.

Speaker 23 (01:35:05):
Partners and my partners not a great camp. So I
usually go on my own. Oh really, yeah yeah, but
I'm I'm off with my daughter in a couple of weeks.
We're over to Hot Water Beach where.

Speaker 2 (01:35:16):
I'll before with beauty.

Speaker 4 (01:35:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:35:18):
Absolutely.

Speaker 23 (01:35:19):
You know, she seasoned the camping, so she got my
last tent and I buy her chit every so often
and deliberate to Auckland. I'm down on the East Coast,
so I camp around the East Coast quite a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:35:30):
So Sam, what do you say to what do you
say to my assertion that campaign is a better holiday
than being a billionaire on a on a super yacht
because you meet other people, You're back to what it
is to be a human.

Speaker 23 (01:35:43):
Well, it's better for the soul, that's my dilemma. I
actually lived in Hong Kong for twenty years and I
had a fifty four foot motor cruise of it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:52):
Oh, so you've got you've got both sides of the
patch of there, so you can answer this question.

Speaker 23 (01:35:57):
Yeah exactly. Now I love the boat. The boat was
absolutely fantastic. Couldn't get her back to New Zealand, so
I went back to the tent and camping again.

Speaker 3 (01:36:06):
Yeah, good man, which has better?

Speaker 23 (01:36:09):
And love it?

Speaker 4 (01:36:10):
You love both?

Speaker 2 (01:36:11):
You love both. You're not willing to not wanting to
go for one for the other.

Speaker 23 (01:36:15):
Yeah, exactly. And I bought myself a little trailer and
built a tell us stop at awning support for it,
and then set up my tent outside the tent and
got everything organized on power, got the whole thing sorted
and you.

Speaker 3 (01:36:30):
Having a wine now? Sam opened up a beer. No,
not quite get into it.

Speaker 23 (01:36:36):
I know obviously all people who can't drink three.

Speaker 3 (01:36:43):
Great New Zealand of Sam on the sitting up of
the tent thing. I don't know if it's just me,
but every time, because it's the same tent, and every
time it comes to someone and we've I've got to
set up this tent and it's usually me trying to
set it up, you know, just just the way it
is that I forget how to blim and do it,
and it is always just a massive headache. And if
Meve tries to help, that's why she doesn't help anymore,
because I get real impatient and get a little bit.

(01:37:06):
So she just goes to have a nice wine with
the family while I try and get this thing.

Speaker 2 (01:37:10):
But when you put it once, you put up a tent,
and you stand back and you look at the tent,
you go, I built that.

Speaker 3 (01:37:14):
Look what I have created.

Speaker 2 (01:37:16):
I have created a dwelling for my family.

Speaker 3 (01:37:19):
I am a man.

Speaker 2 (01:37:21):
I have done what I was put on the planet
to do, which is to feed and house my family
in a canvas tent. Hey, I've got a question for you, Tyland.

Speaker 3 (01:37:30):
Yes please?

Speaker 2 (01:37:31):
How much do we spend on camping and tramping equipment
as a nation each each year in New Zealand on average?

Speaker 3 (01:37:36):
Or as the total? The total?

Speaker 2 (01:37:38):
The total?

Speaker 3 (01:37:40):
Massive question?

Speaker 4 (01:37:41):
Ye?

Speaker 3 (01:37:42):
Can I give you my answer? After the headlines hover
we think about it. Would you want to answer?

Speaker 23 (01:37:45):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:37:46):
If you don't google it, I want to keep my
hands on your fingers.

Speaker 3 (01:37:48):
Shut down the laptop.

Speaker 8 (01:37:49):
Here we go.

Speaker 3 (01:37:50):
No, just pull it out of your's clothes, pull it
out of your butt, okay, per anim on camping and
high king as a nation. As a nation, I am
gonna say how much do I spend per year? I
spend about five hundred a year times five mil.

Speaker 2 (01:38:05):
I must rush you. I need your answer.

Speaker 3 (01:38:06):
Two hundred and fifty million dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:38:08):
All right, okay, all right, okay, we'll tell you the
answer after rate nine two nine, two and one hundred
and eighty ten eighty is campaign the greatest single holiday
that you can be on? Is there anything more?

Speaker 3 (01:38:20):
Ki we twenty nine to four.

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Speaker 3 (01:39:35):
Back to Matt Eathan Tyler Adams, thank you very much, Raylean.
We're talking about the ultimate kew We experience, whether that's
in a tent and the campgrounds. Yeah, that's right in
your neighbors.

Speaker 2 (01:39:44):
Because campings are still so popular that nearly all the
Northland camping sites are sold out now. So get in
there very very quickly if you want to you want
to camp over the of the summer. I asked the question,
how much do we spend on camping and tramping equipment
as a nation each year in New Zealand. You pulled
out two hundred and fifty million, didn't you.

Speaker 3 (01:40:01):
Sounds about right.

Speaker 2 (01:40:02):
Yeah, no, it's ninety million mate, Oh come on, key
to get out. Ninety million expected to be go up
to one hundred million by twenty twenty seven. That's a
lot of money. There's a lot of care because you
don't have to buy it every year. You buy the
good stuff and it'll last your while.

Speaker 3 (01:40:15):
Songs song as you wash it out before you you
pick it up, and you're not going on team Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:40:20):
Matthew, how you doing, mad it's Maddigan, how are you?

Speaker 3 (01:40:25):
Oh good?

Speaker 2 (01:40:25):
And Maddie. You think camping's overrated.

Speaker 4 (01:40:29):
It's so over.

Speaker 27 (01:40:30):
Dragging all the stuff out the kids, drags then into
the tent, then go damn you know, setting up the
kids like so much stuff you've got to and no
one helps you pack it up at the end of
the camping holiday.

Speaker 2 (01:40:45):
Well, isn't that the thing though, Matthew, isn't it that?
Just going back to your life being one hundred percent
substance subsistence existence is quite you know, it's quite taking
you back to being what a human is. All you're
doing is cleaning up, not right, cleaning up and organizing,
organizing food and organizing kids.

Speaker 14 (01:41:06):
You're going to take the kayaks, the panel for.

Speaker 27 (01:41:11):
You're lugging it all down to the beach. It's just,
oh my god.

Speaker 4 (01:41:14):
No.

Speaker 27 (01:41:15):
And then the neighbors like they're partying till two a m.

Speaker 2 (01:41:20):
You go over and party with them, Matthew.

Speaker 3 (01:41:24):
Well, I would, I would.

Speaker 2 (01:41:25):
Actually, I would agree with you on the amount of
gear because last time we went camping, we took so
much gear, and the amount of electronic gear we took
as well was slightly depressing because you kind of your kids.
There's so much charging equipment that needs to be needs
to be taken.

Speaker 3 (01:41:40):
Too far. You can't do that. I would let your
way with the fridge. That's about it. No Telly, no laptops,
no charging for the phone.

Speaker 2 (01:41:47):
I think we took a ton of equipment probably.

Speaker 4 (01:41:49):
Yeah, not for me.

Speaker 3 (01:41:51):
If you can't fit it a mon trail, yeah, you.

Speaker 4 (01:41:53):
Go many No, that's the thing.

Speaker 27 (01:41:55):
Yeah, too much, too much, and they're backing up and
no one wants to help your back up when.

Speaker 15 (01:41:59):
You get home and I'm back.

Speaker 2 (01:42:03):
Well, that sounds like the quality of people you're camping with, Matthew.

Speaker 3 (01:42:06):
But also now the good memories. Oh, Maddie, Look, we've
all been there and it's awful at the time, but
the are the memories you look back on around Remember kids,
when I didn't set up the tent right and it
started pouring with rain and the whole tent got flatted
out and it was awfu at the time. But then
you have a we laugh about it and say yeah, memory.

Speaker 2 (01:42:22):
Struggle in life is meaning and camping is struggling against
struggling against your kids trying to be on their phones constantly.

Speaker 3 (01:42:32):
Matthear, you're a good man. Thank you very much. John O.
You love camping.

Speaker 19 (01:42:38):
Yeah, I do love camping. It's something I do almost
every day right through the whole year. If you could
believe that.

Speaker 2 (01:42:44):
Well you camp nearly every day right through the year,
please explain.

Speaker 19 (01:42:49):
So we run a tiny little group of New Zealand
called inzet Front Adventures Camping and we carried New Zealanders
to get outdoors for lots of great reasons and go
camping all up and down the country. So part of
what I do is I'm getting out showing them how
to do it, lots of different setups, different ways. Is
always in the tent.

Speaker 3 (01:43:10):
I'm just having a look at the Facebook page. Now
you've got a lot of members. One hundred and twenty
two thousand members.

Speaker 19 (01:43:15):
Yeah, just a tiny little group there.

Speaker 2 (01:43:17):
Yeah, it's pretty a very good job.

Speaker 19 (01:43:20):
So we're proud of our membership and it's the real
community and of campers Hure in New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (01:43:25):
So yeah, and John, So you're saying that all the
camping you're doing as tent based campaign as opposed to
camper vans or caravans.

Speaker 4 (01:43:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:43:35):
Yeah, I've done my fair share of caravanning and different
styles of camping, but we've decided to focus on tent
camping because it is the most affordable. It's it's where
people start camping as families, and you know, it's the
affordable way to get into camping.

Speaker 6 (01:43:53):
So what.

Speaker 2 (01:43:56):
Do you do for people to trying to get into camping?
Are you renting them the gear and helping them set
up and such.

Speaker 19 (01:44:03):
No, we don't rent them. We help them to There's
obviously lots of different people budgets that we have to
work with. So we'll help somebody with virtually no money
to get into camping through to somebody. You two are
talking about the Empire tents and inflatableness and everything, So
people with big budgets to no budget will help them

(01:44:26):
along that way. We help single parents. You know, how
do you set up when you've got kids running around?
You've got to manage that situation. We were just really
giving lots of good advice, lots of information. We're doing
it ourselves to show people that it can be done.

Speaker 2 (01:44:41):
Good on you, John.

Speaker 3 (01:44:42):
I'm just having a look at your blog here and
I'm interested in the hot tips for campfire cooking. What
are some of those hot tips for cooking over a campfire?

Speaker 19 (01:44:50):
Yeah, well, first one will be make sure you're allowed
to have a fire.

Speaker 3 (01:44:54):
Yeah that's good. Yeah, that's important. That's important.

Speaker 2 (01:44:56):
You know, the personale starts the four thousand hector a
bush fire.

Speaker 19 (01:45:01):
Check the regulations yet number one, check the regulations and
then it would just be understanding. You know, cooking is
such a great way and a great way to cook,
but it is also combined with camping. It's you know,
it is such a nice thing to do. You know,
to be able to sit around and share a meal
with your.

Speaker 3 (01:45:20):
Family, marshmallows on the fly, you know, that is quintessential
key we can I think.

Speaker 2 (01:45:26):
There is something about when the whole family is focused
around camping and all the admin I was saying before
about the cooking and siding on dinner and then serving
it up. That's it's it's very special. What are your
thoughts on the tents? What do they called those ones?
You see them around on the roofs of cars. Rooftop
t Yeah, that's the name. Yeah, well, I mean Australians

(01:45:51):
of it because they've got so many killer animals floating,
you know, on the on the ground level, but a roof.
That's my dream now I want to I want to
get one of those rooftop tents you can just blast
away in a weekend and then just have it up.

Speaker 3 (01:46:02):
Trending.

Speaker 19 (01:46:04):
It's it's a it's a trending sort of growing part
of the segment of the market because we new Zealanders
as much as we probably won't want to, but that
we do loo of Australians and therefore we're driving and
tag adventures they have, so it's popular here. The things
to note would be dealing with a really good, reputable
company that will help you understand what like how to

(01:46:26):
use a rooftop tent, because we do see the the
quick advertisements online that look like it pops up in
five seconds, but I understand there is a bit more
to it, so you know, my advice when people are
look at rooftop tents because they're not cheap. You know
you're looking three four grand sometimes, so to make sure
you talk to a reputable company to just get the
right get the right rooftop tent for however it is

(01:46:48):
that you're going to camp, because it can Yeah, sometimes
you can buy a bit of a lemon and be disappointed.

Speaker 3 (01:46:54):
Oh good on you, John's very good and check it
out New Zealand Fun Adventures. They got a website and
a Facebook group as well, one hundred and twenty two
thousand members. That's a good, good membership, John F Camping. Yeah,
John O, thank you very much. It is eighteen minutes
to four.

Speaker 1 (01:47:08):
Back very surely, Mattie, Tyler Adams taking your calls on
and Tyler Adams Afternoon news dogs.

Speaker 3 (01:47:19):
It's a quarter to four.

Speaker 2 (01:47:20):
We're talking about camping because a lot of Northland camp
sites are already booked out for the summer. I think
it's the greatest holiday you can go on.

Speaker 4 (01:47:28):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:47:29):
But Liz, you want to talk about the struggles that
mum's face.

Speaker 28 (01:47:34):
Well, I just noticed there's a lack of mums ringing
up just giving their point of view. I've been lucky.
We went camping as kids. There's five of us kids,
and you know, mum did most of the set up
and the cooking and all worrying about that. And in
recent years we have gone camping with our daughter and

(01:47:56):
son in law and family and loved it. But I'm
just mindful there's so much more to it for the
mum that has to you know, set up the bedrooms,
the kits, cast everything across to the kitchen for the cooking,
and cart back again. And yeah, I mean the family
is around there to help.

Speaker 2 (01:48:18):
Well, that's that's interesting you say that, Liz, because that's
definitely not my experience.

Speaker 3 (01:48:22):
I hear you.

Speaker 2 (01:48:24):
I'm having to be.

Speaker 3 (01:48:25):
I'm having to be.

Speaker 2 (01:48:27):
I'm definitely doing fifty to fifty of all that, that's
for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:48:30):
But okay, no, no, I agree with you, Liz that
I've just patted myself on the back for erecting the tent,
but that's my only job really, and after that, I
feel like I've done everything I need to do. But
you're quite right, Mayv is sorting everything else out from there,
and good on.

Speaker 28 (01:48:44):
The guys that do take over. But I still think
there's a heck of a lot. It's like setting up
a new house.

Speaker 3 (01:48:50):
It is.

Speaker 2 (01:48:50):
Yeah, there's a huge satisface faction in that they're setting
up the new house. You arrive at the campsite, everyone's
tired that there's been a long drive, and then you
set up the camp site. But I've always been involved
in all of the situation. But the bad bit is
the pack down. That there's nothing good about the pack down,
and it's so much harder to get all the stuff

(01:49:11):
back and than it was before. Everything's got got sand
in it, and that is that. That is the downside.
But come on, if you're on it, everyone's got to
be in it together. You can't be leaving the mum
to do the mum to do all of it. But
what about a barbecue. I mean, the guys are definitely
manning the barbecue, aren't they.

Speaker 28 (01:49:31):
If they take one with them, But then you've got
a queue up for the barbecue out by the kitchen.

Speaker 3 (01:49:36):
Unless you're I'm sure you're prepping all the food. You're
doing the salad, you're bringing them the meat, you're taking
it back, you're putting it all together. That's a situation.

Speaker 28 (01:49:45):
Sometimes, Yeah, guys help a little bit, but I'm just
thinking that overall responsibility just seems an awful lot and
it's like half a day.

Speaker 2 (01:49:55):
I think often the female in the situation, we'll actually
think about more of the potential upcoming.

Speaker 3 (01:50:01):
Problems the day to day operation rather than that.

Speaker 2 (01:50:05):
I can be a bit cavalier. I'm a bit like,
let's just go, will be all right. But then there's
there's a lot of decisions and a lot of planning
on what needs to be packed and what we actually
need that have been made by someone else that that
isn't me.

Speaker 28 (01:50:19):
It would just be nice to hear from some of
the girls that go along with the guys to do
all this.

Speaker 2 (01:50:24):
Yeah, funf yeah, thank you, yep, because it's a very
good point.

Speaker 3 (01:50:30):
Tony. You're a campaigner.

Speaker 18 (01:50:33):
I love it.

Speaker 22 (01:50:34):
I think it's a god given writers kiwis campaign. Yes possible. Hey,
you just a couple for this. You never ever ever
see woman emptying the toilet cassettes. It's always the boys
doing it.

Speaker 3 (01:50:50):
It's a bold statement. I'm glad you made that, not me.

Speaker 14 (01:50:53):
Yeah, well, I reckon you know if you want.

Speaker 22 (01:50:56):
And secondly, us guys generally and kemping, I always see.

Speaker 2 (01:51:02):
Guys in Yeah, I definitely think I pulled my weight.
I think maybe in the organization I'm not quite there,
but I'm definitely pulling my weight when it comes to
the to the cooking and the and the and the
cleaning up and escape.

Speaker 3 (01:51:16):
Its got to be harmonious.

Speaker 2 (01:51:17):
So any we all think we pull our weight, don't we?
I'm probably walk around going I pulled my weight. Then
it turns out I'm actually just been a lot of
the time sitting there drinking beers on a camp here.
See they might be a bit of.

Speaker 3 (01:51:27):
That, right, Be truthful, both of you. If you know
there's a lot going on in the campground and you
can see maybe there's the packing down to do, all
the cleaning up to do, and you say to your
wife or your partner, I'm just going to take the
kids down to the beach, and you skive off and
leave her with a bit of that that that work
that you didn't want to do. Be honest, that's tough,
that's what it really is.

Speaker 22 (01:51:46):
But how can I tell two stories?

Speaker 2 (01:51:48):
Yeah, yeah, go for it.

Speaker 22 (01:51:49):
One is I was keeping with my wife at the
weekend on the camp ground. The guy next door said, oh, gooday,
and I said our gooday. Turns out he's from a
secret place. And he said to me we got talking.
I'm a fly fisherman.

Speaker 11 (01:52:04):
He said to me.

Speaker 22 (01:52:05):
In the next time you coming down our way calling
at the far we can jump on the quad bright
and go down to my secret location.

Speaker 2 (01:52:12):
There you go.

Speaker 22 (01:52:12):
That's talking about five minutes, and we're friends for life.

Speaker 2 (01:52:16):
Exactly exactly because there's no there's no fences, there's no walls.
You're only separated by my canvas. So you meet these people.
That's that's one of the best parts of it.

Speaker 22 (01:52:25):
Oh think in this so yes, you know, and one
of my favorite stories. I mean, I've got a million
of them. We were camping in Tiarah last year and
we had it was the middle of winter, five o'clock.
It was pitched back and and I was sitting in
their caravans playing ropy cap. Twenty vans turn out and

(01:52:49):
I think it's messing up the piece and quiet we
go away. And the way these these twenty vans turn up,
the women jump out of them by a wee kempt
for and they're sitting around at drinking coffee. Although I
think that in the mugs and sit there, I'm going
to stout I can do it. Right, I come out

(01:53:10):
of there. How do you how you doing?

Speaker 5 (01:53:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (01:53:13):
Pretty good?

Speaker 22 (01:53:14):
You know, pretty good?

Speaker 14 (01:53:14):
Bar Black, what are you up to?

Speaker 22 (01:53:17):
And you know what they were doing. They were doing
a hot spring safari. So they started off at the
beginning of the winter and they picked the leader and
the leader's job was to pick the next hot spring
and they basically twenty of them just followed this leader
right through the North Island, stopping at every hot spring that.

Speaker 14 (01:53:39):
They felt like.

Speaker 3 (01:53:40):
Love it, natural hot springs, I take it. You stay
away from the resort.

Speaker 2 (01:53:43):
Hot springs and the sparpoles of New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (01:53:46):
Yeah, love that, Tony. You're a good man, Thank you
very much. Got to get to a break. It is
nine minutes to four.

Speaker 1 (01:53:54):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between. That Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons you
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Speaker 3 (01:54:03):
Said b B six to four.

Speaker 2 (01:54:05):
I just think about responsible camping. And one thing you've
got to remember to do has taking enough beers up
with you. And you also need to take enough beers
because you're going to need to drink them every night,
and you need to have people going to come around
from other tents, so responsible campers they bring more beers
than they think. You know, it's better to leave, better
to leave with beers.

Speaker 3 (01:54:22):
You don't want to be scabbing off someone on the
last couple of night. You just feel dirty about it,
don't you. You're going to be a tilly.

Speaker 2 (01:54:29):
Cycling up to someone else's dead and then staring longingly
at their chili ban.

Speaker 3 (01:54:35):
Yeah, Sam, how are you?

Speaker 16 (01:54:37):
Hi?

Speaker 4 (01:54:37):
Good?

Speaker 20 (01:54:38):
Thanks?

Speaker 29 (01:54:39):
Hey, loving the conversation about camping. And so we've been
camping together as a family for probably the last ten years.
And we started out in a little Volkswagen Comby Nice
love them. So we had three boys and a dog
and the combe and it had a sort of a
I think they call it an OS tent that you
can attach to the side. So I've put the boys

(01:55:01):
out in the OS tent and that generally come and
knocking on the door about three in the morning, freezing,
so they'll be fine of us. Then in the in
the convey with a job. And we progress to a
camper van because I was often away just myself with
the boys, so I wanted something that I could easily

(01:55:21):
kind of camp camping and move around. And we've done
ninety nine percent of our camping has been freedom camping,
and it's we've just had the absolutely best experiences. We've
moved to a caravan in the last couple of years
with a Kiwe tent for the for the boys and
spend our summers camping. At the last few years camping

(01:55:43):
at pack houses in the South Island, and the boys
are working on orchards and we're having fun working in
the pack houses with all the other people that come
in their caravans.

Speaker 18 (01:55:52):
Beautiful sounds, so great experiences.

Speaker 2 (01:55:56):
Thank you so much for sharing a great way to
thank you very much. It seems one of those good
Kiwi campers, freedom campers, not the ones that leaves the
little parcels anyway, Thank you so much for listening. Our
podcast will be out in about an hour if you
want to listen to it, but thanks for tuning in
and give him a taste of Kiwi from me.

Speaker 3 (01:56:11):
Yep, we will catch it tomorrow Thursday. Have a good
rist of your evening.

Speaker 4 (01:56:23):
Said B.

Speaker 1 (01:56:26):
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Speaker 4 (01:56:32):
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