Full Show Podcast: 26 February 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hell are you great, New Zealanders And welcome to Mann
Tyler Full Show, Mantile Afternoons Full Show Podcast number seventy
five for the twenty sixth of February. Great show. We've
got some big produce, we've got some cheese loving, and
we've got some advice for your dogs and cats.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Absolutely and lining up at supermarkets.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yeah, that's right. All it's amazing stories. But boy, oh boy,
if you get a animal behavior expert on your text
machine and your weight one hundred and eighteen eighty will freakin' accept.
We got more text today than I think anyone has
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Speaker 1 (01:01):
Home for insightful and entertaining talk. It's Mattie and Taylor
Adams Afternoons with the Volvo X eighty on News Talk.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Sev Well, good eight to you. I hope you're doing
what on this Wednesday after noon where if you're listening
in the country, get a.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Mets, get a Tyler, how are you going the lemon? Good?
How is everyone on nine two, nine and two or
eight one hundred eighty ten eighty? Yeah? Still didn't get
under one minute on the New York Times money cross.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
With that's a frustrating game. I mean, now you've got
me into it and I don't want to talk about
my times. It just it really upsets me. Well, I'm
definitely not getting under a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Let's let's say, yeah, well I've joined a league, you
can you can share your times with people, and yeah,
so two minutes eleven today I was an absolute humiliator.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Someone from this office said they did it in fifteen seconds.
What nonsense? Absolute?

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Well, you know us there's dirty cheeks out there that
what they do is they scroll away once they got
the clue. So the kits that the clock doesn't count down.
So you need to have like I've got my partner,
look at my shoulder, keep me.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Honest, integrity.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. So still until I get under
one minute, I feel like less of a human than
I should be.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
I'm going to keep trying. Do you know The one
that really upsets me with that crossword is when they
jam two words together. What's that about what's that one?
You know they jam two words together, so there's always
one particular cloth.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Anyway, anyway, yeah, list, I'll talk about the many crossword
how we might do it some stage. But onto the
show today after three thirty it's part about us, the
experts segment that we're doing every Wednesday after three thirty,
and today is Mark Vitty, animal behaviorist, TV personality, educator
and author, and he'll be taking your calls on any
questions you've got about any animal.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, facetiously, I said the other day that I didn't
think cats had a soul and got a massive amount
of cackpack. Look, I've got a lot of time for cats,
but I'm just a dog person, as is Mark VITTI.
But he also knows about cats. So any of your
questions about your caddies or your doggies, or your lamas
or your buffalo or your snake, he can answer them.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
The man absolutely after that's.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
What you mean by snake. Anyway, let's not get bogged
down in those details.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
After three o'clock, Humongous fungus. It's on the beg of
the story in the Herald yesterday about a woman named
Julie Gallagher. She found two massive mushrooms and she was
incredibly stoked about it. We all were as a country.
We were happy for Julie.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
I love big produce. I love people growing something a massive.
As a nation we took a huge blow with Doug
the Spud, who well arguably wasn't a potato. Justice for Doug, Yeah,
justice for Doug, Doug the Spud. But yeah, we want
to talk about a big, big, big veg still a

(03:50):
thing in this country. I mean my uncle Selwyn, he'd
grow a big tomato, he'd grow a huge tomatoes. Get
very excited and we went down to Vcago to check
out Uncle Seln's large tomatoes.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
If you can grow a tomato that feeds a family
of four, you're doing well. You know they should be celebrated.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
But his auntie Pat used to say, very watery youah,
Uncle Saln's tomatoes, they don't taste very good.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
After two o'clock. What have you lined up for? And
was it worth it? On the back of absolute scenes
outside of Highland Packing Save it is a supermarket, but
it is the largest supermarket in New Zealand, and one
woman described the scene as total chaos.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Why the hell do you line up for a new supermarket?
Who caress you go to the supermarket a thousand times?
Why is the first time so exciting? I know there
were a few a few deals there, but were they
worth the huge cues to get in and get on them?
Looks like a spectacular supermarket that pack and day. But
why do we line up for new things? I can
understand if it's new infrastructure built, Yeah, what have you tunnel?

(04:51):
Beautiful to walk through when it was first built? Walking
across a new bridge, boy a boy would have been
very cool when they first put up the Auckland Harbor Bridge,
the people that walked across that because you wouldn't get
to walk across it.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Very often tangible, great view, something you can physically touch.
We can all get behind good infrastructure, but a big pack.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
And saf yes, So we want to hear from people
that have lined up for something gone on the first day,
gone through all the hassle of a hassle for it,
Why you did it and was it worth it? And
what is worth being there on the first day. Used
to be the new iPhone was a big thing that
was worth lining up for. You absolutely needed to have
it that day and not twenty four hours later. Yeah,
what difference does it make. I'm not sure people don't

(05:29):
line up for iPhones anymore.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
No, it's right looking forward to that after two o'clock
because it's have a chat about the price of cheese.
Cheese on average across the border New Zealand has gone
up twenty five percent over the past twelve months, and
it's no surprise that cheese is a kind of metric
for how the economy is doing.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Right, Yeah, one hundred percent. So I'm saying when you
see that cheese is expensive in your supermarket, this is
what I want to put to people at eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty nine two nine two that you
should get on your knees for cheese, and far from
being upset that cheese is expensive, you should feel a
patriotic surge through your song. Because the Treasury, says dairy

(06:12):
experts exports were valued at twenty three point seven billion
in the year to March twenty twenty four. That's represents
twenty four percent of our total export value. Okay, and
analysts say that strong global dairy prices will bring in
an extra four billion dollars to the economy. So when
you see that cheese is expensive in New Zealand, that
means good things for our economy. So you should feel

(06:36):
very good about it. You should get on your knees
for cheese. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
It is a strong point. It is a strong argument
that that four billion dollars going into the economy. Even
though we all get a bit grumpy when we go
to the supermarket aisle and see the price of that
beautiful block of tasty is twenty bucks plus, but I
get your point. I mean that is going back into
the New Zealand economy. Whereas petrol, for example, that might
be something we should be a bit more irate about

(07:01):
it if we're going to have a go at some sort.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Of we don't get nothing good from petrol prices going up.
But you know, cheese price is going up because you
don't actually buy that much cheese. So twenty five percent
fluctuation is a few more dollars a week. But yeah,
petrol prices going up, that that really hits you. That
that is just a big loss for the country. All
that money goes overseas and it's it's not good. But

(07:25):
cheese price is going up. That's something we should be
very proud of as a nation because we are very
efficient farmers. We make the best dairy in the world,
and we sell it around the world, and when we're
getting good money for it, good money comes into the
country and good things happen for all of us farmers.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
We want to hear from you, and we want to
hear from you as cheese buyer in New Zealanders. Are
you with Matt here? Do we need to feel a
bit more patriotic when we pay a little bit more
for cheese knowing that a good chunk of that goes
back to this economy and our good farmers love to
hear from you. On Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty nine two ninety two is the text number. It

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Speaker 1 (08:03):
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Speaker 3 (08:16):
News talks. There be very good afternoon to you, and
we're talking about the price of cheese, and we've had
a fantastic response on the text machine nine two nine two.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Well Actually, I've got gotta tell you something. I'm currently
sitting here topless.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
You are.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
You wanted to brush over there?

Speaker 5 (08:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (08:36):
I thought we're in a gloss over that, but you
can tell I'm panting here. My mate's topless.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
My computer shut down here the computer shutdown. Yeah, yeah,
so spilled a coffee when everywhere and you know we're
in the my Costing Memorial studio, so you've got to
You've got to clean up when you make a mess.
So I immediately whipped my shirt off to wipe down
the bench. And yeah, still doing that. So I'm not
sure if that affects your listener ship that I'm doing

(09:01):
it shirtless.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
No, we've got to bring you the audience into what's
in the studio. There's about a million paper towel just
scattered around at the moment. So Mike, if you're listening,
the studio will be speaking span by the time you
come in tomorrow morning. Don't worry about it, Ryan Bridge,
you might not be so lucky, but we'll try try
our pisted right back to Cheese one is the number

(09:24):
to call, and we do have John on the line.
Get a John. Oh, John's dropped off? Okay, right, so
a couple of ticks here disagree Matt and Tyler. Oh, John,
we got you.

Speaker 6 (09:40):
Yeah, that's happening.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yet that's right, And what do you reckon about the
price of cheese? Are you in support of what Matt
is saying that if we are paying a bit more
at least it's going back into the economy.

Speaker 6 (09:51):
No, I go, well, the text on what Fonterra Earns
might do, that's that's not a lot it's appeared to
what just what throws out of your pocket?

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, yeah, but you know so it's twenty three twenty
four percent of our entire exports or an export nation.
So if that money is coming in and there's an
extra four billion dollars that get spent in the market,
they the farmers can spend more in the community. A
whole lot of stuff happens. If that that that's good

(10:23):
for the economy. Whether I know.

Speaker 6 (10:27):
Quite a few farmers I hunt on their properties, and
most are tight debt. When they price it, they're up.
They because they have bad Yes, they just carry on
retiring debt. They don't spend a lot of extra in
the economy unless piece of machinery or whatever, and then
that's all budgeted for they doesn't go out in the circle.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Well, when it has to come in, like if money
is not coming in, I mean that's the way it works.
So if money is coming in and they do get
to pay down their debt eventually over time, there's no
doubt that money coming in is better for our economy,
then more money going out then comes in. So if
the dairy price then they're doing the same work and
they're getting more money for it, then surely that's great,
great for the nation.

Speaker 6 (11:07):
Yeah, to a certain extent. But I think I've put
in my text three thousand and four, I was working
as a maintenan attention here for combract problems. I was
doing about seventy five thousand and then with about fifteen
cent overtime. Now I'm struggling to earn sixty two sixty
three thousand as train engineered. That's why people are bundled

(11:32):
out of this country because the Contracts Act took away
your ability negotiate. So what prices go up and down,
all the people that are making the money are not
the working people. Because the working people, if your like,
the majority of contracts in this country are individual contracts.
And I've tried in a couple of places I've been
at to get payrized. They love there because because they
just hire someone else, so that they've taken away, on

(11:55):
one hand, the ability of the worker to earn the
money to be able to pay these up and down prices.
On the other hand, they've put a free market in
which allows everyone else to prices, you know, to earn
if you're a manufacturer.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Right yeah, But if we I mean, what's the so
you're the game? We should go back to it before
there was a free market when we.

Speaker 6 (12:20):
People should be able to freely join unions or guilds
or whatever and have a combined voice to be able
to get pay rises. And ninety seventy I worked in
Australia and I could earn more in New Zealand today
after earning about sixteen to seventy percent more on Australia,
simply because there's enough strength still in the combined voice,

(12:41):
you might say, of the workers to get the pay rises.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
But isn't it you know, yeah, here what you're saying, John.
But it's a complex picture, isn't it. And it's not
just one element, but four billion dollars being injected into
our economy is a good thing for all of us.
We need all industries to be injecting capital into the
country because when you've got a strong economy, then you
can lift wages and you can start to get a

(13:07):
little bit moos to where Australia is at the moment,
and they're talking about utilizing the resource that we've got
here in New Zealand, opening up more gold mines, making
less regulation, allowing foreigners to come in and invest more.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
These are all.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Elements that would lift our combined economic strength and hopefully wages.

Speaker 6 (13:25):
To boo, Well, I lived through the Rockstar economy, I'm
getting you did I saw nothing of it. Well, yeah,
I saw pay risers which were below or maybe equal
to inflation, but not as ongoing exercise. Generally, you're looking
at one one and a half percent a year and

(13:45):
inflation at one stage I remember one quarter was right
under eleven percent years ago. And so we've just gone
backwards and.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
That I, oh, yeah, we may we may well have
gone backwards, John, But if if dairy prices are going up,
then that's part of us going forward surely. And look,
maybe you personally haven't Maybe you personally haven't seen as
much of it as you want, but as a nation,
it is good. If some of us are doing well
and there's more mainly coming into the economy, then there's

(14:13):
more money for us to do everything we can have
that we want to do and make the decisions we
want to do as a country.

Speaker 6 (14:18):
Surely, yeah, surely you could say that if it was equitable.
But ask yourself, while the doctors have left.

Speaker 7 (14:24):
Why the policemen leaving?

Speaker 6 (14:25):
Why are the nurses leaving? Because it's stored on so
far behind.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yeah, but that may be true. But that may be true,
but that doesn't mean there's not a reason to celebrate
when things are going better, does it?

Speaker 8 (14:35):
What couse?

Speaker 6 (14:35):
We celebrate it during the rockstar economy quite often we've celebrated.
But since the contact that money does not get shipped.
Look at the wealth that has been stored by wealthy
New Zealanders. Companies make excess or excessive profits, and the
work in prison has not gone for at all. The
median look at the medium wage has nothing. They say,
the average hourly raiders forty five dollars. There the median

(14:58):
is something like about thirty two or thirty three, So
there's a lot of people under that Thresholder isn't it.
There's a lot of people on minimum wage, and there's
the people at the shop at the supermarket. They're they're
the ones to have to go and basically look for
the bargains.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Would you would you agree? Would you agree John, that
farmers work very hard? Yeah? And so so in your heart?
Can you see can you see it in your heart
that it's great that a very productive sector of our
economy that works very hard is getting more money for
their their produce and therefore are relieving a bit of
pressure for them.

Speaker 6 (15:32):
Yeah, they get more money for their produce, but i'll
beat you upon terra are making more out of it
than they are.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Well, that's the way. That's the way capitalism works, right someone.
If people aren't making more money, then people aren't doing
very much at all, are they. They stop doing anything
unless they can make money from it.

Speaker 6 (15:46):
And so look at when New Zealands became non productive
around about the contracts. But after that people just lost
all faith and working for a point, no more allegiance.
People don't stay with with an employer all their life,
but they people don't give it. Well, okay, if people
in New Zealand working people really don't care. They just
don't care because that they're not going to gain for them. Yeah,

(16:10):
the country in the last two years.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
All right, well think if you call John, Yeah, thank
you very much, cheers John. I hear what John is saying,
but I just can't agree with that. And I know
that nurses and teachers and police officers and doctors are
leaving for Australia because they pay better wages. And why
can they pay better wages? Because I've utilized resources that
they have over there in Australia. They have tried to

(16:36):
reduce regulation when they can. They have done things differently
to New Zealand, and they didn't get themselves into the
same situation we did over the COVID years. That's just
the truth. So if we're going to actually lift those
wages and do better for New Zealand, and then we
need to be celebrating things like our farmers and paying
a bit more for cheese.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Yeah, well that was sort of the wider point we
were trying to make. That look in that's complex, and
I can see John's how John feels about it. But
if we don't have any productive or any successful parts
of our economy, then it's doesn't get any better, and
we don't get any more doctors or nurses or policemen
staying here.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Yeah, I love your thoughts though, oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighties. So the number to call twenty five past one.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Putting the tough question to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast.

Speaker 9 (17:18):
It's one of the police Minister Stuart Nash is with us.
First of all, the two percent decrease in violent crime.
Would you concede, despite your political background, that some of
what this government is doing actually might be working?

Speaker 10 (17:28):
Could be decided keeping in mind mic, I was a
police minister that's increased police numbers by eighteen hundred scot
to throw that and.

Speaker 9 (17:33):
You but stats are the stats and the violent crimes
coming down.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
That's a win, isn't it.

Speaker 11 (17:37):
It's interesting.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
But what we're talked about, said some rest.

Speaker 7 (17:40):
There's retail crimes going up by about twelve percent, and
you've got these keyweaks.

Speaker 10 (17:43):
Who are working bloody hard to making m speak, often
not making that much money because cues are spending a
whole lot of money online and team and then his
miss Grim's coming in and stealing from them, and they
don't have the ability to do anything that's crazy.

Speaker 9 (17:54):
Back tomorrow at six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with
Bailey's Real Estate News Talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
Good afternoon, twenty eight past one. We're horribly late, so
a couple of texts. Then Railing's got your headlines. Guys,
John needs to go back to Australia. They've got five
times as much population in huge mineral resources, so many
people just ignorant. Plus it means they test pensioners. That's
why they come back to New Zealand to retire. And

(18:19):
this one says, I agree. Farmers are definitely putting a
lot back into the New Zealand economy. Some are debt paidback,
but farmers are replacing equipment, doing more research and increasing
wages and spending more in their local communities. Right taking
your calls on O eight hundred and eight ten eighty.
Big operation going on here in this judio. We fell alive,

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but let's get into it. Headlines coming up.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
Jus Talk said.

Speaker 12 (18:46):
The headlines with Blue Bubble taxis it's no trouble with
a blue bubble. The fourth annual Report on Augatamaiki has
found it still isn't meeting the standards for children in
care with abuse still rising, social workers still aren't visiting
children and caregivers often enough, and the transition for a
third of children leaving care into adulthood isn't manner. The

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Green Parties co leaders have delivered their State of the
Planet address. They say their alternative budget would ensure everyone
enjoys the basic rights of a clean environment and stable climate.
The Security Association says the general public would need to
be very careful carrying out arrests if the government opens
up the law on citizens arrest and security guard powers.

(19:32):
Faced by rising retail crime. Upgrades to streets around christ
Churches new to Kaha Stadium are six months ahead of schedule,
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(19:54):
read more at Ends and Herald Premium. Now back to
matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Thank you very much, Raylane.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
I think that was the potentially the worst coffee spill
in the history of broadcasting in this country.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
It was pretty dratic. It was the wave of.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
We've had to abandoned the studio, so we're in another studio.
And there was I spilt so much coffee. So we
have to give an update, don't we, because because why
we're so discombobulated and not running our show.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
They've closed the curtains of us. Now that they are busy.
There's an army working on that studio at the moment. Ryan,
if you're listening, Ryan Bridge, it's going to be a
right mate. Don't worry. You get your studio bed.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
It's like the Wolf and Pop picture. There was so
much coffee and you know when you spill a coffee,
it normally goes one way. Yeah, the coffee I spilled,
I think I tried to catch it, so it went
completely one way and completely the other way. So it's
covered the entire area, and you can imagine and broadcasting
there's quite a lot of electronics, so it's.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
All through that a wave of Americano.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
And because I could just see it going into the electronics,
I whipped my shirt off and I was trying to
clean that up with that, and then there was there's
some pictures of that that will not be making on
a social media.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
He's got a great tan, folks. It's a tan across
the body apparently, but the cameras were rolling.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, so humiliating really, but.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Here we so we're nothing but not professionals.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
We need to reset, we need to reset the show. Yeah.
So okay, so let's put this behind us. There's five
people try and clean up my mess, and I'm riddle
with self hadred and guilt.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
The coffee incident of twenty twenty five. Where we now
put that behind us and let's get back to the cheese.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Twenty sixth of February will be a day that goes
down in history. And you still said be a horrible
coffee disaster.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
But we are still on here and we are still
talking about cheese. And on the back of John before
the headlines. Now, John, Well, we had a good discussion
with John, and John was pretty wound up that he
feels at the lower end of the wage society. He
feels that paying an extra bit for cheese, even if
it is helping our farmers, it's not helping him. Yeah,

(21:54):
and it kind of went sidetracked a little bit from
the conversation, but bringing it right back full circle, and
I think that core element that you said that if
we are paying more for cheese, yes it hurts, and
yes we've all made a hek of a lot of
sacrifices over the last couple of years until the cost
of living. But that is one product that does have
some benefit to New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah, and apologies to Jennifer. Wasn't you know giving you
reasonable responses to what you're saying? But as I was saying,
I was nude at the time, so and covered in
coffee and we're worried the radio station was going to
go off. Yeah, So twenty three point seven billion dollars
twenty four percent of total exports New Zealand. When our
global prices go up, then it's predicted to add another

(22:36):
four billion dollars to the economy. And we're just a
little economy at the moment, and we're struggling across the
board in most places. So to have one very productive
sector when we have so few productive sectors, it's surely
something to celebrate. But are you willing to go as
far as to celebrate paying more for cheese? Yeah, you're
that patriotic?

Speaker 4 (22:54):
Love it?

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty get a Debbie
good Ada, And what's your view on how much we
pay for cheese and whether it is patriotic too. If
you can pay a little bit more to support the farmers.

Speaker 13 (23:06):
I think it's absolutely important to its economics. One O one.
You know, if we're got a export company or companies
and we are bringing that back into the country, it
makes sense to spend that little bit more and have
our whole economy running better.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yeah, and a lot of people ask, you know, why
we have to pay more when cheese just comes from
from just down the road with the milkers made in
New Zealand and sou it's on a truck. But yeah,
it's a global it's a global commodity.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
And so I.

Speaker 13 (23:40):
Listened to John before and I slightly disagree with him.
We are farming and and I can say that it
definitely comes back into the economy. Yet there's a little
bit of debt that gets paid back. But if I
look at what we've done this year, we've you know,
if you've got a little bit more money in the system,
you you repair those things that you haven't done for
many years. It's been a tough time in the dairy industry,

(24:02):
so we we've put off a lot of that stuff.
But when you do get paid a little bit more,
you you put you do a little bit more for
repairs and maintenance. You do pay a little bit back
obviously to the bank. You if you need to replace
any equipment, you do that. And you also, you know,
we've put wages up this year with you know, so
it does you go out and you have a coffee

(24:23):
in town or go to a restaurant, So it does
roll around and make it better for the whole economy.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
How are your stress levels when when when you get
a decent price waiting for the prices to go up,
because you know, even if you're going purely by cheese,
about a year ago it was about the last it
have been in a long long time. So how does
it feel coming out the other end of some pretty
stressful times financially?

Speaker 13 (24:48):
Yeah, no, it definitely does help. It's been tough for
farming over the last several years. So we think one
hundred percent that if it's coming back into our economy,
it's got to be a good thing. And we see
the effect it's having even on our local economy. You know,
you're supporting your track to place, You're supporting your motorbike place,

(25:10):
You're supporting your your engineers and your you know, electricians
and your so it's going round round about.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Do you feel the as a farmer, do you feel
like the nation appreciates farming still or do you feel
like that that people people don't really know what you contribute.

Speaker 13 (25:33):
I think there's getting a better appreciation of what farming
is doing for the economy. I certainly feel that it's
It's probably not been in the past, but I feel
like people are beginning to understand how important farming is
to the New Zealand economy.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Which is great news because do you do you think
even eighteen months ago there was a bit of an
unfair feeling from some parts of New Zealand towards farmers.

Speaker 13 (25:59):
One hundred percent. Yeah, yeah, but I do feel like
that's changing a little bit. Yeah, well, I hope it is.

Speaker 14 (26:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
So what do you feel about my assertion four that
we should get on our knees for cheese and remember
we're in the supermarket and we see expensive cheese, we
should go. Yes, New Zealand is doing well and we
should happily pay that extra salute that cheese.

Speaker 13 (26:21):
And I'm a bit of a cheese lover, so I'm
definitely going to agree.

Speaker 7 (26:25):
With you there.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
Ok, thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Did here movement, Get on your knees for cheese.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
I mean if you if you see someone in the
supermarket aisle tomorrow on their knees just in tears sink
softly singing the national anthem as they look at high
cheese prices, then you know that that's a true patriot.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
Just give them a clap on the back and say
I'm with you. I Am with you. One hundred eighty
ten eighty is the number to call there, there it goes.
Get on your knees for cheese. Nine two is the
text number. Got to take a break. It is twenty
one to two.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
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eighty ten eighty Matten Taylor. Afternoon with the Volvo XC
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Speaker 4 (27:12):
Awaits news TALKSB.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
News Talks ZED be very good afternoon to you. We're
talking about the price of cheese and I met you've
just been into Studio one.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Ground zero as they're calling, Yeah, what was the what's
advantage of twenty sixth of February?

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Are you just deleting all the video and evidence that
ever happened.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Our fantastic tech team has come in and they've tried
to salvage as much as they can of my costing studio.
I think you'll be working on about we'll probably get
it up to about twenty percent of capacity by the
time he's in tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
They're good people to take teams.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
They are.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Now we are talking about the.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
I'd like to a publicly apologize to them for adding
an unnecessary complication to their afternoon with the world's worst
coffee spillage of all time.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
It was a lot of Americanos, a lot of Americana
in a lot of directions. We aren't talking about the
prize of cheese meanwhile, and we've got full boards, so
let's have a chat to Mary. How are you good?

Speaker 11 (28:06):
Thank you?

Speaker 4 (28:07):
How are you good?

Speaker 3 (28:07):
The price of cheese? What do you reckon? Are you
okay with paying a little bit extra as long as
it goes back to the hard working farmers.

Speaker 15 (28:14):
Firstly, I absolutely support our hard loves and sundaners. I
always have and I agree that they are definitely the
backbone of our country, which is an absolutely miracle after
what the last government in the Greeneast did.

Speaker 16 (28:27):
Ye However, there's a lot of.

Speaker 15 (28:30):
New Zealanders can't afford to buy cheese now, which the
fact a lot of us that can't afford to buy
by the raw. To be perfectly honest, everything is so
expensive and I just think that they make trees and museum.
I know they have all these extra edit costs, and
I know Fonterra has costs, but they also make a
lot of money overseas and as you get a lot

(28:51):
of tariffs and stuff off it. Okay, I just think
that what we pay in the shop for New Zealand
cheese is astronomical. And I'm not altogether, I'm not blamed.
I actually don't blame the farmers for that. I blame
Fanterira and I blame the supermarket because I think both
of those companies rip the New Zealand public offs.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Yeah, so you know, we could look into the supermarkets
and and you know, and the duopoly of supermarkets. But
so if there, if there's a global price for cheese
for it to be less in New Zealand, we would
have to as the government would have to subsidize. It
would have to subsidize the farmers because you can't really
tell the farmers to not get the best price. When

(29:34):
then when they're struggling away, so to bring that down.

Speaker 15 (29:38):
To take the best price from the farmers at all.
I agree with you, and I think they should be
getting the best price. They can't. I think it's Frontierra
and the superstarskets between the public off.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
But Fronterira yea, yeah, sorry, you got.

Speaker 15 (29:55):
I've heard so many times that cheese is cheaper to
buy New Zealand, cheese is cheaper to buy overseas.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Yeah, but they pay the same price for it. So
if it's cheaper to buy over cheese overseas, then then
that is a It is how much they're they're charging
to sell it over there. Sometimes it's a lost leading product.
It doesn't add much. The shipping it overseas doesn't actually
add add much to it per per block of cheese
as it were, so that that that might be a

(30:24):
supermarket issue, but it's got it's got nothing to do
with the farmers.

Speaker 11 (30:28):
But that's what I've said to you.

Speaker 15 (30:29):
I agree with the farmers, I support the farmers, and
I don't blame the farmers. I've said that to you
twice now already. I blame Fontierra and the supermarket.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
What do you think that Fonterra should do different.

Speaker 15 (30:43):
Well, I don't know what they are doing. I don't
know enough about it, but I do think that they are.
They are charging the New zeal And public too much.
I really do, and you know, like I can't prove that,
and I just know in my heart of hearts that's
what they do.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
So they're charging, but they're charging the New Zealand public
the same as they're charging any anyone in the world.
That's just there's just one price for it.

Speaker 15 (31:06):
Right, Well, then are we paying so much more on
this market than overseas?

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Well, we're not necessarily. You can find examples of us
doing it. But you know, there's a lot of reasons
around that could be volume, could be how much how
much more profit that a supermarket and a bigger country
can make, therefore they don't have to make as much
profit on each particular item. I mean, there's there's all
these kinds of problems with being a small country. You know,
we have to compete with people that can buy a

(31:32):
lot more and sell out more.

Speaker 15 (31:35):
I used to buy Pisa cheese. I love cheese, but
now I look at the price and I just put
it back on the shelf because I can't afford it.
I can to buy a lot of trees.

Speaker 17 (31:46):
I buy a little bit of cheese.

Speaker 15 (31:47):
And I use it very very serainly as a treat.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yeah, I mean, but you could argue that. You know,
you say it's Fontierra's fault, but Fontira is the farmer's
and for the farmers are Fonterra.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
Well yes and no, Well it's a co op. You know,
they do own the vast majority of Fonterra.

Speaker 15 (32:06):
Fon Terra is.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Yeah, but we need big business. That's why our dairy
has done so well is because we turned it into
a big business. If each farm is trying to sell
their produce on their own, then that would be very
inefficient and very hard to get the best price for it.

Speaker 15 (32:22):
Do you to everyone that brings you up?

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Well, listen, Actually, what's I can't see anything that we're
in a students in a different studio. What's what's your name?

Speaker 18 (32:33):
Mary?

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Mary? Yeah, we're currently in a different studio, so we're
dealing with there's been a massive coffee catastrophe in the
other studios, so we can't see the same technology. So
we're just trying to muck through.

Speaker 15 (32:46):
I run up a person not long as I.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Okay, let's move on.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
Move on, Mary.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
You see it's getting confusing this conversation. See you later, Mary,
Thank you very seemed like a lovely person. But your
phone's cutting out.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
And oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. We are horribly late, so we're going to
play some messages, but we'll come back to more of
your calls very shortly. It is twelve to two.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
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eighty ten eighty Matt and Taylor afternoons with the Volvo
xc N eighty Tick every box, a seamless experience.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
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Speaker 3 (33:24):
News Talk zed B, and we are talking about the
price of cheese on the back of a column by
Liam Dan and the New Zealand HEROLD. It's gone up
twenty five percent, but when we pay a little bit
extra for cheese, a lot of that is going back
into our own economy and farmers.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Yeah, yeah, sorry, there's a few technical issues. Some people
are complaining because we were talking over Mary. Like obviously
we can talk over who we want, that's not non issue,
but just so you know, we're having a few technical difficulties,
so we couldn't really hear what she was saying, and
so we had to move on from here. All right, okay,
so but here we've got some texts coming through. God

(34:00):
so much coffee everywhere.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
Oh this is a nice one, you know. This is
Jeff love your guys show I love you too, Jeff,
Thank you very much. Hey, guys, if the price is
not inflated, how can you buy supermarket brand cheese for
one to two dollars cheaper than brand labels. That's a
significant brand premium. I think profit on a profit on

(34:25):
a commodity product that will only reduce when the market drops. Guys,
I am a farmer, and thank you for speaking out
for us. Yes, we rely on the international price going
back to us and indeed the economy. We are massive
employers and we work incredibly hard and we've felt God
out for the last two years. And nice to hear

(34:47):
you supporting the farmers. You're absolutely right. Our work is
good for the economy. Keep those ticks coming through a
nine to nine to two. We'll squeeze Tim in before
we're going to get to the news, are you Tim?

Speaker 7 (35:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (35:02):
I am.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
Now what are you reckon about the price of cheese.
Are you happy to pay a little bit extra to
support the farmers?

Speaker 19 (35:08):
Now that's what it's crap. The global auctions is what
the supermarkets pay, and four keys, it is four eight
hundred and sixty two dollars a ton. You divide that
by one thousand. As a kilo, it's four dollars eighty
six point two cents ko. Okay, seven thousand, three hundred

(35:32):
and thirty seven dollars seven seventy eight dollars. The best
you can buy butter at the moment is seven dollars
forty nine for half a kilo.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Yeah, but there's a lot of other expenses that go
into producing the pet and also the people that sell
it have to make a profit, So there's a lot
more than just the straight the straight commodity value.

Speaker 20 (35:59):
Five times the price it's not on Well, I don't
mind people doubling the price, but not five times cheese.
As you said, yeah, at four dollars eighty and sold
for twenty.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
That's how things work, mate. You have the base product,
then you add to the value by in the processing
and the delivery and the whole infrastructure around it, and
then people have to make a profit on top of it.
That's just the way it works. It maybe five times
from the absolute base, but there's a lot more going
on in there than just that.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Thank you very much, mate, Darren. How are you?

Speaker 14 (36:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Argument?

Speaker 21 (36:42):
I guess and all this I good to see the
economy running. But my argument would be, if you're talking
block of cheese and you're divided into thirds for those
that are making a profit the farmer, does the farmer
get a said? Said, are a certain moment a third?

Speaker 7 (37:01):
Well?

Speaker 3 (37:02):
Yeah, well, good question. I don't know. I mean that
is the complexities of that particular market, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Everyone has to take a cart nothing.

Speaker 21 (37:09):
What happens last week? The yet the price was twenty
dollars and it costs the supermarket, say ten dollars to
buy it. Then it cost them they put on ten
dollars to sell it. When it goes up to twelve dollars.
Do they sell it for a twelve dollars margin? Or

(37:31):
were they comfortable with all we can sell them?

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Well, I mean in a market, you sell it for
as much as people will pay. That's how capitalism works.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
Oh, I think we've lost Darren. Darren, Thank you very
much mate, and sorry we lost you on the car
phone right. That is where we'll leave it. I think
a few techs to go up to the news.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
I don't have any I don't have any tech over here.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Another couple from Farmers guys, you're absolutely right. Fonterra is
the farmers and absolutely we need to get the best
price for our products as possible. That money comes back
to us employ a lot of people, we feed New Zealand.
It is good for this country. Thank you very much
for all those texts. We're going to change up very shortly,

(38:18):
but thank you for mum.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
By change up that also means change clothes and yeah,
and change a lot of our equipment that has been
covered in coffee.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
It's been an exciting hour.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Absolutely apologize for any technical difficulties we've had to deal
with listening to us, because we've been up against it
in here.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
It's going to be smooth sailing from heads for four
minutes to to always great debut company. Thank you very much,
Newsport and Weather on its way.

Speaker 7 (38:44):
You're a pink Parker, have the curb, mom.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
Hostage and light so news Talks ed B. Thank you

(39:55):
very much for listening to us this afternoon. It has
been exciting a little bit stressful.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
It's been, it's been, it's been dramatic. We had to
abandon studio after someone spilled their coffee every I'm not
sure who it was, we'll look at the tapes. It
was either me or Tyler.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
The evidence is there, man, I'm looking forward to seeing
that video.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
So we had to move to another studio and try
and piece together a show over there with very little tech.
But we're now back and thanks to Ed and Chris
and the other techs that came in here and sorted
everything out and the studio is back to normal. So
cone of silence across all of the nation. No one
tell Hosking about this again? Yea, Please don't don't tell Hosking.

(40:36):
You see him out shopping as don't mention it because
the coffee's all been in his special stuff that's down
and there these.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
Draws here, he'll never know.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
I tried to clean off his special pins and everything,
but it was a coffee again in in here.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
It's been given a deep clean. It smells like lemon water,
which he's used to. So nobody tell Hosking.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
So cone of silence everyone, No one no one mentioned,
No one mentioned, Yeah, so Ed Ritchie and Chris, thank
you so much for coming and saving the day.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
Yes, yes, absolutely, well give him a round of floors
are out there. Thank you guys, you're the real VIPs.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
You wouldn't know that this is ground zero of one
of the worst coffee spillages in the history of broadcasting
in this country.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
It needs a Wikipedia page. I think what happened, and yeah,
we'll find out who spilt it.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
We'll do it. We'll do a full and thorough investigation,
all right.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
And thank you for bearing with us because we had
a few technical issues when we got ushered out of here,
so hopefully we are back to normality right changing.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
And also thank you for all the abuse and their
lack of understanding as well abuse. Thank you for just
really putting the boot in when when things were going tough.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
Yeah, we love you guys too, Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Thank you taking time out of your day to insult
us for not being able to hear call us.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Yeah, we love a good spanking. Right, So on to
the next topic. Highland pack and save customers face our
long queues car park chaos on opening days. So you
may have seen the shoppers at the Peck and Safe
in Auckland in the Auckland suburb of Highland Park encountered
our long queues throughout the entire store during yesterday's opening.
This is this new one hundred million dollar, six hundred

(42:06):
thousand square meter super huge, massive, but as one woman
who was there described the scene as total chaos. There
were buses organized to take people to the opening off
for the supermarket. So that's kind of what we want
to talk about. We want to talk about what have
you lined up for and what was it worth it?

Speaker 2 (42:27):
But also also, no one tell Ryan Bridge what even
in here as well, because he's got to face the
coffee of Gedden first anyway.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good. So no Hosking, no,
no Ryan, no Bridge, Yeah, Hithers on it, Tinity Leader,
don't tell Hither either, tell that anyway.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Yeah, So what makes people so excited about going to
the opening of a pack and say, because you know,
when I go to the supermarket, it's a massive chore
and I can't be bothered. And so I don't think
the fact that it's the first day of that supermarket
makes it any more exciting than any other day to me.
There were some specials, but is it worth queuing up
that long and and God blessed them for opening such
a big, spectacular supermarket. I'm sure it's a fantastic business,

(43:03):
but Costco remember when that opened, the nation basically ran
a full length of country parade. We were cut I mean,
I know over in my last Breakfast show we were
cutting live to people describing it and going around and
trying all the bits of it. We went absolutely crazy.
But is it worth it? Has someone been to something,

(43:23):
oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty. Has someone been
to the first day of something and it's been worth it?
Maybe an infrastructure thing, were you the first person to
walk through it? Maybe a tunnel that's just been built?
Was that amazing?

Speaker 3 (43:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (43:36):
You know, I guess you know, if there was a
new Navy ship, you.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
Know, I'd be down for that, a new frigate, Yeah, absolutely,
I'll be down for that. I think you were part
of the Waterview tunnel when it opened. You went for that,
We walked through.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Yeah, and that was pretty good. Yeah, that was all right.
I mean I would have loved to have been on
the Manawanui when it was first launch. It would have been.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
Good to Yeah, rest in peace and you say that
for a ship.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Yeah, but what is what is it about these first things?
And yeah, and have you been to one? Have you
queued up and been the first person to get something
or been the first person through something and it's just
changed your life and you've talked about it and it
was significant.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
What do we love about these massive openings? Costco Ikira
is coming up very soon. I'm actually pretty close to
Ikea and and I can sit here and judge and
say why you're going to these openings, But I'm actually
a little bit excited about I care.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
Yeah, and people may look back when I used to
work in record stores back in the day we would
open up when as a teenager in record stores, we'd
open up at midnight for people to come in and
buy records and be the first people in the world
to buy that record. Because New Zealand was, you know,
because of the time difference. People used to queue around
the block in Dnedaan to get the new Smashing Pumpkins
album just to be the first to get it.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
And I like that because that's you know, that's passion
and you can't help. But if you walk past that line,
even if you weren't there for the album. You couldn't
help but get a little bit excited, a little bit
joyful by seeing that. Maybe that's part of it. If
I drove past this massive queue, maybe a part of
me would have said, Hey, what's going on here? Yeah,
maybe I'd just swing in here and find out what
the fuss was about.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
But what about those muppets that lined up for the
iPhone three which is now sitting at the bottom of
a drawer, you know, leaking, leaking battery esset. But it
was so important at that point.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
Love to hear from you, what have you lined up for?
And was it worth it? And if you went to
this pack and save opening, love to hear from you
as well. I had. One hundred eighty ten eighty is
the number to call. It is twelve Path.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
Two, your new home of afternoon Talk Matt and Taylor
afternoons with the Volvo XC ninety turn every journey into
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Speaker 4 (45:41):
Call eight hundred eighty eight.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
News Talk said, be very good afternoon to you, quarter
past two, and we're talking about what have you lined
up for? And was it worth it? Oh eight, One
hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number of cour
It's on the back of quite a turnout for the
opening of this new pack and Save in Highland in Auckland.
It does look like a beautiful supermarket one hundred million
dollars and over six thousand square meters, but a lot

(46:06):
of people who were there there were massive cues and
one woman described the scene as total chaos. So love
to hear from you. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
What have you been at at its opening? And was
it worth it? Was it worth the lining up to
go and Jack, what have you been to? What have
you been to? The opening day? That was worth it?

Speaker 18 (46:29):
So me and my mom and my nan have walked
through the Waterview tunnel and that was bloody awesome.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Yeah, hey there, I was there Jack in twenty seventeen, oh.

Speaker 18 (46:38):
Honestly, but after COVID, for example, we signed up for
an hour and a half to get McDonald's and that
was just disappointing.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
That walks through the Waterview tunnel was so so good
because you know, it took ages to get through. But
now I drive through it all the time and I
know it's got sort of a I can see that one.
It's got a sort of a significance. I don't know why,
but just because because you've walked through and it was well,
it was much longer to walk through it, and it
was so beautiful. It was a beautiful piece of infrastructure.

(47:07):
It still is when it's added, but I couldn't believe
as smooth. Yeah, but it's but it's smooth, you know.
And then I started getting tickets every time I drove
out the other side of it for a while there,
which which really put me off it. Yeah. So because
because after COVID there were all those stories, you know,
and people were judging other people for queuing up for
for cafc and McDonald's and stuff. But was it because

(47:29):
you were craving the CAFs, I mean craving the McDonald's.
Was it just something to do?

Speaker 18 (47:35):
Well, it was something to do. But in my case,
my step dad wanted to McDonald's, so we went and
lined up.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
There was a right when there was nothing magical for
the No.

Speaker 18 (47:46):
Well, I'm not a massive fan of MACID myself. But
another example is that me and my mother lined up
for a COVID test and we got You got up
at five thirty, lined up at six, waited for two
or three hours in line for a COVID test. Oh
was it a jab, wasn't it?

Speaker 22 (48:04):
It was a job?

Speaker 5 (48:05):
So yeah, that was it was it.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
Was that was no, absolutely not. It was crazy. Hey,
thanks for your call, Jack. So you know, I feel
like a you know that my memory disappeared around that time.
But that was crazy. When you were lining up in
queues and then going into a garage and then they're
coming around to your car and for the for the

(48:28):
for the jabs.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
Crazy times, wasn't it.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
It's hard to be hard to believe it happened.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
Yeah, I've got to say when the takeaways opened up again,
I went straight to k Frye and I think mostly
it was for the k Frye and it was pretty horrible.
It was pretty nasty. Yeah, I don't know why, because
I've had all that time to prepare. I'm not even
to go at k fry here. But and also the
cue was real massive. I just wanted that chicken.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
Yeah, but like you say, most people were just having
to drive around and saying freedom.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Yeah, it was something to do and be around other
people and things that when things have been taken away
from you, you want them back, even if you didn't
really need them Mike, you live three minutes away from
this new one hundred million dollar pack and say.

Speaker 23 (49:07):
Yeah, hi guys. So yeah, I'm staying with my mum
at the moment. And yesterday she went there and she
pulled up and said she texted me. She said, sorry, no,
this total pandemonium. So she went ten minutes, literally ten
minutes down the road to Botany and there's a Pack
and Save there. So that's sort of that out. But
there's an interesting story there with the Highland Park supermarkets.

(49:31):
So literally twenty meters to the left of the Pack
and Save is a huge countdown. So you've got a
countdown right next door to a Pack and Save. And
what makes it yeah, go.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
On, Oh no, I was just going to say it
was the Pack and Save busy. When was the countdown busy?
When the Peck and Save everyone was going crazy for
the opening of the Pecking Late.

Speaker 23 (49:54):
I wouldn't imagine so. But the thing that makes the
story more interesting is that for the last fifteen or
twenty years we're the new packing Savers. There was the
Highland Park Village, so there might have been twenty or
thirty shops around an arcade, and there was not countdown

(50:14):
now Wool Worst Woolworst Countdown in there as well, So
right next door to each other were two Countdowns twenty
meters apart, two supermarkets, and it was it was total.
It was just crazy. I mean, why would you have
two countdown supermarkets right next door to each other. So
I don't know what Pack and Say did to negotiate

(50:36):
buying at land and investing in that next door to Countdown,
who had a ultimate monopoly over the whole area. But
you know, obviously Pack and Save works for magic and
now they're in competition with the guys twenty meters next door.
So yeah, that yeah, unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
So you love three minutes from this new Pack and Save?
When you have you been in there yet? Are you
excited about the first time you walk through the doors
of this new supermarket?

Speaker 23 (51:04):
Well yeah, i'd imagine or already has been stated that
you know, there'll be some specials on things, but no,
I think I'll just slip the crowds die down a
bit and yeah I'll go there for sure.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
Yeah, you know, yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
Wise man, I've got to say. You know they had
some specials on for the messes. Yeah, I don't know
if they would entice me. Can I just run through
what the specials were?

Speaker 4 (51:26):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
So the bargains were eighty nine cents for a bottle
of coconut water, I'll be forty nine cents for a
head of bock choi in ninety nine cents for avocado
and keepskins. But they did n'tentice you to hate bok choy.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
I hate bok choi. There's always too much bock choi. Yeah,
overcooked bok choi.

Speaker 3 (51:47):
I love a bell buck, but the bok choi kind
of ruins it now that you think about it.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
What those aren't the only specials that were there. They're
very coconut water and bock choy.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
Yeah, and eighty nine cents for a bottle of coconut water.
I'm not waiting for ninety nine cents for an avocado,
I'm sure, And not too long ago you could get
three evo for under a buck.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
I'm not waiting a middle and a half weltering heat.
But how much was the bockjoy.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
Forty nine cents? Don't even not a bear, Bryce Tyler,
I don't even like bockjaw. One hundred and eighty ten
eighty is being able to call? What have you lined
up for and was it worth it? It is twenty
one bars too.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty on used talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
Good afternoon, twenty three bars towo and we've asked the
question what would you line up for? And was it
worth it?

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Yeah? So this text he here says Loto's first draw,
the queue started six hours before the draw, one hundreds
queuing people bringing their jugs from the par Because the
wait was so long, most missed buying. I didn't win. Yeah,
you still have to.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
Yeah, you have to line up for lotto. Yeah, particularly
the first draw.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
So when was the first Lotto draw? When did Lotto
start in New Zealand? Someone might know? On nine two,
niney two. It's been around for a long time, obviously,
it's been around as long as I can remember. But
I think there was a lot of excitement, wasn't there.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
Care But if the first one? And I'd love to
know what the jackpot was, so it's like a million bucks? Maybe.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
I don't think you won a million dollars when Lotto
first started in the sixties, No, I think later. I
think it was much later than that nine ninety two
someone will.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
Know good text here from Steve Guys lining up for
my first big sale circle. Forty years ago, Farmers Hobson
Street had a water damage sale after the sprinklers were
activated by a small fire. The whole building, four or
five floors, was on sale. TVs were really cheap, but
they kept everyone back from the building. Then it was
just ready sick go and every runs printed like crazy

(53:44):
but awesome bargains. Love that.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
So is that the Farmers Hobson Street Farmers I'm just
trying to think about that. Where that is, because it's
not the big famous one that they attached the center to.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
No, no, I mean that's very American, though, isn't It
is getting everybody to stand back, open the doors and
say right.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
Go yeah, sort of a Black Friday vibe. Yes, Michael
you you lined up for a couple of things in
your time.

Speaker 7 (54:07):
Yeah, I have Dobson three. I think was the big
Farmers Building. It used to be used to be like
the tallest building in the city. Right drive over the
Harbor Bridge and there was the Big Farmers Building was
maybe the I remember it from the arly eighties. Okay,
and yeah, so it was and it had an amazing
because I was I was a young, amazing playground on
the top floor. It's about all I can remember about it.

(54:31):
It was because that was that was really the only
thing that I was interested in at the time. But they, yeah,
a couple of things I lined up for. I lined
up to buy probably the worst album there's purchased, the
U two pop album. It was that had a couple

(54:51):
of bangers, and it was like, there's going to be
a amazing lined up for that, and yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
What was there like it sorry three?

Speaker 7 (55:01):
Yeah, I think it was ninety three, maybe ninety five.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
I think there was. It was later than that, it
was it was ninety seventy one around there. Yeah, that
was a rubbish album, wasn't it. Scotique and Staring at
the Sun? Yeah, yeah, I had a.

Speaker 7 (55:17):
Couple of a couple of a couple of reasonable songs.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
I don't Steering the Son was a good song, but
there was there was.

Speaker 7 (55:24):
A lot of dross in amongst the gold. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Yeah, there was sort of a then Zopa and then
they were sort of just going down.

Speaker 7 (55:31):
You had Joshua Tree, Redland hum acting baby. Yeah, like
they'd been just bang dang bang. Yeah, and then and
then pop which it was not great, but the so
there was that, and then I I lined up to
go to like the first screening of the Lord of
the Rings movie, Yes, in the New Market Cinema were
we're there, you know, we got the got tickets for

(55:53):
the opening night. When in there, got and started watching it,
and like all of the people that were there, it
was like it was geek Central. They were all dressed up,
they all knew they all knew the stuff backwards in front,
you know, like that from reading the book, and a
lot of them spoke elvish at that level. And we

(56:14):
were there and all of a sudden they were watching
it and about you know, about an hour and or
the three course an hour, and all of a sudden
people started standing up and shouting, and you know, I
was like, I couldn't quite follow what was going on
because I wasn't at it. I was there with a
mate who was really into it. But they they spice

(56:35):
together the reels incorrectly. They weren't allowed to watch it
and check it. And so we all got given complimentary
tickets for the next screening in Queen Street at three
point thirty in the morning or two thirty in the
morning or something. We all went along to watch that one,
and I got out of there at like five fifteen
and I started working quarter at six o'clock in the morning.

(56:56):
Had to just drive straight to work, and you know,
and solving up to that, and we're.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
Trying to think how they would gone. I'm just trying
to think how they would have gone. So you'd have
left the shire and would you immediately be in the
minds of Maria and you'd missed out the whole.

Speaker 7 (57:09):
It was something like that, and so like it missed
out a whole, big chunk of it. And so you
jump from sort of a third of the waves of
the film for the season the film, and the guys
who knew the story really well immediately knew this was
role missing that should have happened. And so if we'd
gone to a later screening and not lined up for

(57:31):
that first one, that wouldn't have happened. So in some ways,
in some ways it wasn't worth it, but it was
still was. Also it was far more memorable than just
going along to watch a movie would have been.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
Yeah, you've got the you've got the pros and cons there.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
I used to go to a lot of midnight screenings
of movies were very excited. I mean when Ironman, the
First Iron Man came out. Yeah, I went to the
midnight screening of that. And it's the terrible time to
watch a movie because it's midnight and your share, especially
these days when movies tend to be way longer than
they need to be. Yeah, I don't think i'd bother
go to a midnight screening again, because just that's kind

(58:08):
of it gets the crux of what we're saying here, Michael,
is you know you could go at the midnight screening
or you could go the next day. What is the
big difference? In your case, it was an interesting thing
that happened and that was kind of cool, kind of
made it memorable, But really, what is the big difference
about seeing it straight away when it comes out or
going to the pack and save straight when it opens
or three weeks later.

Speaker 7 (58:30):
Yes, and it's and I think there's something that we
want to be first. Yeah, and it's quite exciting because
have done that. But then afterwards you go, well, why
why did I bother doing that?

Speaker 2 (58:43):
You've said it well yeah, yeah, Well, as we were
saying before, you know, there's so many people that lined
up overnight for that new iPhone that has now so
many generations ago, and they probably don't even care about it.
It's in a draw somewhere rotting. Yeah, yeah, hey, thank
you for your call, Michael, appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
Now. This was some years ago, my first time in
Bangkok and going down the street and saw this massive
q just streaching all the way down the street and
I thought, oh man, this is going to be good.
A better line up for this. And seriously, I was
there for about an hour and a half, didn't know
what it was. I thought it must have been some
really nice food. Get to the front of the queue.
Do you know what it was?

Speaker 4 (59:16):
What?

Speaker 3 (59:16):
Orange juice? A frickin' glass of orange juice. I waited
an hour and a half. The people at banks and
they loved it. It was pretty good. Ojan, you're just.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
A muppet that will join a queue because people are quelling.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
But if you see a que like that and it's
down the street and all the locals are there, my
first time in Bangkong and saying, wow, I got to
check this out. This must be amazing.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
The freaking orange jeit. You can end up in the
army like that I read a novel about a guy,
a true story actually about a guy who was lining
up because it was a que The next thing you know,
he's keel hoiled and at keel hauled and he's in
the army.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
Hey.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
First Lot of Draw in nineteen eighty seven host s
Doug Wilson and Anne Harvey and a panel of scrutineers
to confirm the numbers. So nine to eighty seven was
when Lotto first came in. That would have been It's
quite hard to imagine a world without Lotto New Zealand
without Lotter.

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ten eighty What did you line up? Four? And was
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Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
Thank you very much, ray Lean, and we're talking about
what have you lined up from? Was it worth it?
Some wonderful stories coming through a lot of people were
talking about the first lotto drawer.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Yeah, the price pull for the first draw was one million,
just over one million, but I think that the division
one was different. Mary, do you remember do you remember
the first lotto.

Speaker 24 (01:01:52):
Draw Well, I remember when it was called Golden Kiwi
in nineteen it was after nineteen seventy five. I was
working there. Oh yeah, when the numbers we went into
an office top end of Willi Street, somewhere right up
the top end and about where the tunnel comes out

(01:02:13):
now into Willis Street, and there were about ten of us,
I don't know what they called us went into this room.
There was a policeman, a barrel and about ten of
us writers and a caller, and the policemen supervised and
they started and they would draw individual numbers out for

(01:02:38):
the first I think it was either ten or twenty
prizes and the top price in those days. The first
one that was opened was twelve thousand dollars and they
sold all two hundred and fifty thousand tickets for it
in twenty four hours.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
So what was the what was the difference between Golden
Kiwi and Lotto, Mary, I'm not sure.

Speaker 24 (01:03:03):
I think it was possibly the change over from manual
to so the way currently similar to what it's done today.
I'm not sure because I worked there only as an
in between with a friend got me into it and
we had to. As the numbers were called out, we
had to write them all down quickly. They didn't go

(01:03:24):
slowly like it was twelve thirteen fourteen, and that we
only called for. We only wrote for I think it
was five minutes at a time, and then we had
to change over because they did go fast.

Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
Wow. And how many you called yourself writers?

Speaker 7 (01:03:41):
Was it?

Speaker 24 (01:03:42):
I think it was. I can't remember the name of it,
but there were about ten of us there, all doing
the same thing, so I suppose it was ten times checked,
perhaps because some people perhaps couldn't remember all the numbers
they've so fast.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
And what was the top sure, pund me, what was
the top price?

Speaker 24 (01:04:00):
Twelve thousand dollars pounds?

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
I suppose it would have been. Wasn't that puny suppose
a pounds?

Speaker 24 (01:04:07):
Yeah, No, it would have been dollars when I worked there,
because I came back from England and we changed over
while I was away, so I would have worked there
prior to around the seventy time.

Speaker 25 (01:04:20):
I think, yeah, oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
Oh, thank you so much for you call Mary golden
Keywi's a great name for it. So then, so the
first lot of draw happened in nineteen eighty seven on
the first of August and the top priv prize was
three hundred and fifty nine thousand, eight hundred and eight dollars,
and people line up around the block to buy the
tickets as you would. So I'm not sure exactly what
was the difference between that and Golden Kiwi. You know,

(01:04:44):
it was the same, It was kind of the same thing.
The Golden ki Lottery came under its authority, the authority
of the New Zealand Lotteries Commission. But boy, oh boy,
three hundred and fifty nine, eight hundred and eight dollars,
I don't know if you wouldn't know, it's one of
those silly things where everyone could do with that much money,
but you wouldn't. You wouldn't get out, wouldn't get big

(01:05:05):
numbers out buying lotto tickets for that much money these days,
would it?

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
Well, when it Jake Bonts to forty million, you know,
I don't buy too many lotto tickets, But when it's
forty mil.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
Yeah, But that's a funny thing because, as my mate
Lee Hart, Lee Hart once said to me, so it's
not good enough for you to win ten.

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
Million, one one ten million, what's the point this?

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
It's forty million, what's the point? What's the point? And
gon't and get a ticket? I mean ten million's pretty good.

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
Yeah, absolutely, nine hundred eight hundred eighty ten eighty is
the number to call. A quick couple of texts.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
I walked over the Monkey Bridge when it opened after
it took so long to build, about twelve years. I
think I was ten, and it was bloody brilliants, Jeff
see like, I support walking over bridges and walking through
new infrastructure projects and inspecting, you know, the Clyde Dam
when it opens and all those kind of things. Yeah,
I'm just questioning how exciting it is to visit a

(01:05:58):
supermarket on the first day, because that's what we're talking about.
A Pack and Save one hundred million dollar Pack and
Save opened. There were huge cues to get in there,
and it looks like the only special was some punish
bok choi. And look, I've been taking a bit of
heat for my slagging off of bock choy. Someone says
I'm not cooking it right, and that seems like a
very likely It's very likely I've been overcooking my bock joy,
But that doesn't seem bockchoy and coconut milk specials don't seem.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
Yeah by bok choy for forty nine cents and coconut
water for eighty nine cents. I don't know if that
would get me there, but you know, in your box
Choy chat you can certainly undercook it, like where's the
sweet spot for bok choy. I don't think there is
a sweet spot.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
Lionel says that Golden Kiwi ran from nineteen sixty one
to nineteen eighty seven, and Golden Kiwi had prizes up
to sixty thousand.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
Very good, not enough, not enough, ten eighty. It's a
number to call. What have you lined up for and
was it worth? It will take some more calls very shortly.
It's twenty to three.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
Wow, your new home of afternoon talk Matt and Taylor
Afternoons with the Volvo XC ninety. Turn every journey into
something special. Call oh, eight hundred eighty News Talk.

Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
They'd be seventeen to three.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
We've been judging how excited it would be to line
up for a new pack and save to be one
of the first people in there. Look, in my opinion,
a supermarket's not an exciting enough things to line up
for because all supermarkets are kind of the same. You know,
if you if you go to a particular brand of supermarket,
then you go on a different place and they're very similar. Yeah,
very similar.

Speaker 3 (01:07:27):
If Aldi comes to town, I can kind of get it,
but yeah, just a large pick can save I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
And you were saying before Tyler that you you were
in Thailand was it? And you ended up lining up
because everyone else was lining up and when you got
to the end of the line, they just gave you
an orange juice. You know, that wasn't worth the hour
long cue?

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
Certainly wasn't that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
This textas says, hey, you try this win in Rome
or Paris or whatever. Stand twenty meters away from a
plane wall and steer at it. I guarantee you crowd.
And yeah, I would like if I was somewhere like that.
I don't know, you know, like you, I'm a huge
fan of ancient Rome and that kind of the classics.

(01:08:03):
So if someone's steering at the wall, I'm going to
steer with them because I'll assume that there's something's very
special about that war.

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
Yeah, because I've found.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
I've gone to see parts of Hadrian's Wall that we're
that exciting, you know, I've been to a lot of
you know, ancient sites that it's hard to say, you know.
And there's that the oldest wall in London you can
go that look at that goes back to Roman times
and it's not much to it. So you know, sometimes
it's exciting just to look at a war.

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
Absolutely, plenty of ticks coming through about lotto. Yeah, and
Golden Kiwi.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
We won an eighteenth We won the eighteenth prize of
twenty thousand on the five dollars Golden Kiwi ticket in
nineteen eighty two. It worked the same as lotter. Someone
says that, but someone says that Golden Key was basically
just a raffle ticket. You didn't choose your numbers. So
is that the big innovation for lotto that you could
you could pick your numbers? Yeah, so yeah, rather than

(01:08:56):
being assigned them. Yeah. Interesting. All right? Ron. Did you
queue up to get into the casino when it fears open?

Speaker 21 (01:09:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 22 (01:09:05):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:09:07):
I was living on my boat and West Haven, so
I heard the casino was opening, So I wandered up
there and I got a outfit and waited about three
hours in the line, and when finally they said right
O were going in walked through the door and I
got about in feeding and your security came up and says, oh,

(01:09:30):
you can't go in like that, And I said, what
do you mean? I had shorts on and I had candles.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
They couldn't They couldn't told you that. They couldn't have
told you that at the back of the queue.

Speaker 22 (01:09:41):
That's what I said.

Speaker 5 (01:09:42):
I said, why didn't you come out? I'm tending to do.
You've been walking bass the queue for the last one
couple of hours, so yeah, So I got kicked down.
So I got to get on down to the parking
lot underneath the casino, and I couldn't get out. I
don't know what it was, whether I didn't have a
credit card or or you couldn't use as you had
to have cash or something. So I wandered around till

(01:10:04):
I found something that looks like they owned the place.
So I was sitting by some rolls royces right. Sure enough,
they were part of the casino crowd. So they let
me out, but will you Unfortunately I can't tell you
what the inside was.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Well you were You weren't one of the first to
be in there, but you were one of the first
to be annoyed by the parking system there, so you
know that's something to hold on too.

Speaker 5 (01:10:27):
Well, I've been the first one to be kicked out,
I don't Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
You might have been the first one to be denied
access for being too careful.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
A lot of people have had that happen to them.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
They were the first. They should give you a park.
Have you been back to the casino since?

Speaker 5 (01:10:43):
Yeah, I have a few times when I'm not a
real game.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
Yeah, that's a good way to be, all right, Thanks
to you very much.

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
Some great teams coming through. On nine two, nine to two,
get a guys once lined up for free beer at
Spates Brewery in Duneda. They had a bad batch that
they were giving away via the tap on the building.
Will Will sorry it wasn't worth it that it was
in April Fool's Day, so me and a couple of
hundred students carrying pots, pans and containers went to nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
That seems like the kind of April Fool's Day that
causes ill will in the community. Yeah, it's like it
was on a right because you know they're going all
very clever because the bad betch giving away. Sure it's
a joke, is if I mean and this the joke
was nothing to do with Spates Bureau. Yeah, but if
that's that's you know, like I'm I'm a Southern man,
I'm big fan of the whole Spate situation. Good on them.

(01:11:31):
I've been on a number of Spates brewery tours, big fan. Yeah,
but if that was their joke, I'd just be like,
that's annoying, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
Not fine, let's tear it down.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
Yeah, because on April Fool, if you do something quite
sensible like lining up the pot and a pan to
get free beer, you're not really in April fool. You're
just doing you know, you're trying to get free beer less.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
Oh, one hundred eighty, ten eighty. The number to call
nine nine two is the text number. We'll get to
a few more of those shortly. It is twelve minutes
to three. You're listening to that entirely Good afternoon, the
issues that affect you and.

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
A bit of fun along the way and Taylor Afternoons
with the Volvo XC Naty Innovation, Style and Design, have
it all news talk.

Speaker 7 (01:12:14):
Said, be.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
Good afternoon. It is ten to three and we've asked
the question, have you lined up up for something and
was it worth it? Some great teach coming through this
one's talking about the bock choy directed to a t mat.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
Look what I said before is when I was looking
at the specials at that Pack and Save one hundred
million dollars Pack and Save, the only specials were some
kind of coconut water special and a bock choy special.
And I just said, look, I hate bok choy, Matt,
you're not cooking box choy, right, wash it, but drain
all the water off, put in a splash of say
sauce and oyster sauce, and just shake the saucepan over

(01:12:51):
the heat until it's just soft. Don't overcook. Thank you
so much, Keth, I take I'll try that. It's a
good tip, Okay, But maybe I'm doing the bok choy
wrong and of unfairly maligned bock choy. And look, maybe
I've had some bad luck being served box choy at
restaurants in my time or when I've ordered takeaways. Yeah, sure,
my point still stands. I'm not going to wait in
line out of new supermarkets just to be one of

(01:13:13):
the first people in there to get a box choice special.

Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
What about ninety nine cent avocados.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
I'm in, I'm there.

Speaker 3 (01:13:21):
Grad tell you this afternoon.

Speaker 8 (01:13:24):
You got our name?

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
Good boys, how are you good?

Speaker 3 (01:13:26):
What did you line up for?

Speaker 8 (01:13:28):
It was nineteen sixty five and on a Friday night,
and we finished work at five o'clock and in those
days you all got sort of dressed up in suits
to go to work. And we few of us went
down and lined up outside Tom Morrison's means where and
say this is the street and Wellington three blankets with

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us sat on the concrete and the cold all night
to line up to get tickets for the All Blacks
spring box text following weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
Ah right, wow, and you got them.

Speaker 8 (01:13:59):
Yeah, we got them. They opened up at nine o'clock
on the Saturday morning. But we all turned up, about
six or eight of us turned up at five o'clock
after work and sat there on the concrete with the
blankets over the top of us and slept, tried to
sleep and half the night.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
Else was it was?

Speaker 25 (01:14:15):
It was?

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
It was there a party on the street with there
are other people there there was. Was it a good time?

Speaker 8 (01:14:20):
Yeah, it's pretty quite really. Everybody was trying to get
some shadowy but the hell of a lot of it
because it was too dead and cold.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
There's a lot of excitement for for for a game
back there in ninety sixty five, a lot of excitement
for the next time the Blacks at Eton Park in September.
You know, that would be all one. That might be
worth sleeping on the street for.

Speaker 3 (01:14:40):
Yeahs, you've still got it in you grow.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
Yeah, But South Africa, you know, the biggest threat to
Fortress ed and Park in a very very long time.
They've had our number for a while now.

Speaker 8 (01:14:51):
Maybe well, right, we're the right we're playing at the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
Here could happen, you know, an inflatable mattress, a good blanky,
some pillows.

Speaker 25 (01:15:00):
Oh he didn't.

Speaker 8 (01:15:00):
We didn't have any of those, mate. It was just
a blanket and that was it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
Those days are gone now because what you do now
is you send an alarm and you get up and
you just keep refreshing your laptop. Don't you to get
the ticket?

Speaker 8 (01:15:10):
That's right, But yeah, those days you could get the
tickets was Tom Morrison's and he was he was from memory.
He was the chairman of New Zealand Rugby. There stage.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
Yeah, how was the game?

Speaker 19 (01:15:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:15:26):
Yeah, pretty good?

Speaker 4 (01:15:27):
Yeah, do we win?

Speaker 8 (01:15:29):
I think the all blacks rubbed from memory.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
Yeah yeah, all right, good.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
Good on your grand Thank you very much, thanks mate,
by cheers. See that was dedication, wasn't it. As you say,
sleeping on the street with just a few blankets. Hopefully
you had a couple of beers with them. He had
some mates and just hunger down to get your ticket
to the rugby. Bring that back. Don't have online ticket
sales just make people sleep on the streets.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
Well, I tell you about. They're struggling the cel tickets
to sporting fixtures as it is. So you know, you
know Super Rugby. You know, I've got to say I
think Super Rugby's got its mojo back. It's been fantastic
first couple of rounds. But if I know, my my
beloved Highlanders suddenly said we're long no online ticket saleser
to sleep on the street. Yeah, I know it might

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get a little less than the fifteen thousand they did.

Speaker 7 (01:16:14):
You just.

Speaker 3 (01:16:16):
One hundred and eighty teen eighties number. Cool Peter, you up?

Speaker 19 (01:16:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:16:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (01:16:22):
I lined up for a if A Cup final reply
at nineteen ninety at Wembley.

Speaker 3 (01:16:26):
Oh mate, wow, and I got I got.

Speaker 22 (01:16:29):
There about five thirty on this Sunday tickets for available
Monday morning. My grandfather drive me in from the South
side London and we lined up, had a good laugh.
I was with the Crystal Palace fan Manchester who was
the other side, and mid No. We end up having
a game of Manchester Crystal Palace football and steps of
Wembley and everyone everyone's having a good night and it

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was quite a big key. I than about the first
half dozen which is good. And I was eventually got
to sleep about three four o'clock, had my sleeping bag out,
and then about seven o'clock cop come. The cop came
the horses. I looke everyone up and the loitering barsons
and all that sort of stuff, and yeah, I got
the ticket these I got four tickets ten quickly. It
was about twenty bucks in those days, which was the

(01:17:14):
bloody bargain. Went to the final nty style. But to
be honest to hollow was queuing up for about fifteen
hours on those steps of Wembley. That's great, yeah, controduction
to public culture.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
Yeah, and there was there was no buffo, there was
no hoolig.

Speaker 22 (01:17:32):
Everyone was having a good time really yeah, and so it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
Was all worth it in the end. Was, because it
sounds like some of the best memories of it was
the queuing up more so than the game.

Speaker 22 (01:17:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was. Even the result was the
right way for me. But ye know, the night Monday night, sorry,
Sunday night, magnificent.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
Yeeah. Love that all right, and thank you so much
for your call, Peter. All right, there you go. So
there's things out there that are worth lining up. I'm
going to say lining up for a pack and say, yeah,
not on my bucket list, not one of them.

Speaker 3 (01:18:05):
And plenty of takes on golden keyw and a lot
of and bock choy that that hour had it all in.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
Yeah, it's been a great hour.

Speaker 3 (01:18:12):
It certainly is. Right after three o'clock, let's talk about
humongous funguses on the back of two messive mushrooms found
by a great New Zealand and Julie Gallagher.

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
I love a big piece of produce.

Speaker 3 (01:18:24):
He certainly too. We're gonna have a chat to Julie
coming up, and then we want to hear your stories
about big Veji. So eight hundred eighty ten eighties that
I'm gonna call New Sport and Weather on its way.

Speaker 4 (01:18:40):
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Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
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Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
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Just a reminder coming up in about twenty five minutes.
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when it comes to all things animals.

Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
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knows about if you've got a problem with your pussy
cat or what have the kind of animals do people have, yoursela,
your mouse, your rat, your horse, your lama, your folowo.

Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
Yeah, al pecker, he is the man.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
Yes, So he's coming in after three thirty so you
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two ninety two. You're only question about your beloved pet
that you want help with.

Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
Yeah, absolutely, God knows.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
It's expensive to go and ask the vet. Oh yeah,
four hundred and twenty six dollars. My vet visit yesterday,
as I say, And what was it for Colin? Terrible skin, right,
terrible terrible skin. He's got to get this injection to
stop him scratching. He's he's a beautiful boy, and he's
a good boy. But there's some serious genetic issue's going
on there.

Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
We all love your colin. Don't listen to dad right
now before we get to Mark VITTI a great story
in the Herald about humongous fungus or fun guy. So
a woman in the Bay of Blenting, her name is
Julie Gallagher. She stumbled across two a massive mushrooms measuring
thirty centimeters plus across the cap on a neighbor's Kiwi

(01:20:19):
fruit block, and Julie is on the phone right now
and joins us, Julie, very very good afternoon to you afternoon. Right, well,
congratulations on the fine I think that's the right way
to say it. Where it was clearly that's the biggest
mushroom that you've ever ever found, ever seen.

Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
Yes, that is it find as keepers when it comes
to a mushroom, because you found it, is it yours?

Speaker 26 (01:20:45):
Well, I guess.

Speaker 11 (01:20:48):
So I just couldn't leave it there. It was already
over mature, so I have heard. So it just needed
to be picked and it needed to be shown because
it's just so unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
So just to give a sort of a visual, you know,
so people can sort of get their head around at
what what what kind of object? Would you say?

Speaker 11 (01:21:11):
It's the size of Oh gosh, well it's bigger than
a dinner plate.

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
Bigger than a bigger than a dinner I can't think
a small trampoline. Maybe bigger than a dinner plate. And
about the size of a small trampoline.

Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
That is a big mushroom inside.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
But yeah, what you're saying, so that the stem is
the dinner plate, and then the wider bit, the the
umbrella bit for one of a better term is the
size of a small trampoline.

Speaker 19 (01:21:44):
Well, you're probably.

Speaker 11 (01:21:45):
More a small umbrella now you mentioned an umbrella. Okay, yeah,
I say sirty centimeters across in one point two kilograms.
So it was quite a mission to carry the both
of them home.

Speaker 21 (01:21:58):
I bet it was.

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
And were they side by side or were they in
different parts of your neighbor's property?

Speaker 11 (01:22:02):
No, side by side, And the smaller one had another
smaller one starting to grow from the stem, so it
might have got humongous as well. But I picked them
because I just couldn't believe it and couldn't leave them there.
And it's gone rather viral.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
And it's an exciting fine. What happens with a fine
like this? Like where does it go from?

Speaker 23 (01:22:28):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:22:28):
Do you, I don't know, varnish it up and keep
it for a eternity or do you chop it up
and eat it?

Speaker 7 (01:22:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:22:35):
Well, the reporter I first spoke to, he contacted land
Care Research and we were told it was it either
a horse mushroom or a krocodulinous which is a crocodile mushroom.
They weren't sure, but they did not recommend. They didn't
advise that we eat it. And I think being over

(01:23:00):
mature as they said it was, it might have been tough.
And so what I did was I popped it up
because after a couple of days of keeping it, it
started to go a bit moldy. So I chopped it
up and I sprinkled it back along our driveway in
the hopes that maybe more will grow.

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
Wow with it. With those uber uber sized jeans in there,
maybe you would just get a hole a whole driveway
of them.

Speaker 11 (01:23:27):
Yes, ma, if it's my oap, and then you can
you can.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
Hop between them, just bounce across them when you go
up your driveway.

Speaker 11 (01:23:34):
Yeah, true, I'd picked them while I was still at
a ball. I wouldn't let them get that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:40):
Yeah, yeah, oh well, how good?

Speaker 3 (01:23:42):
And what did your neighbors think, Julie, You're obviously on
their property. Were they a bit gutted they didn't find
these super sized fung Guy?

Speaker 11 (01:23:49):
No, he said, up, I don't care, said take a
photo of it with your grandchildren. He wasn't particularly worried.
So yeah, because I often walk around the orchard, I
can't walk out on the road because we're on a
main road. And yeah, he was happy about it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
Well, good on you, and thanks for you your story
with us, Julie, all the best.

Speaker 3 (01:24:11):
That is Julie Gallagher out of the Bay of Plenty,
who has gone viral for finding some pretty incredibly sized mushrooms.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
Now I feel like as a society we aren't celebrating
our giant produce as much as we once were. I
don't hear these stories. The last thing I heard was
dug the spud, dug the spud, that then it was
giant spud, and then a got sort of knocked down
as and there accusations that it was in a spud,
that it was a what is that tuba?

Speaker 3 (01:24:40):
Apparently, but that was controversial, you know, as you say,
Dug the spud, he put his head above the parapet
and Anders Finder Colin I think his name was. And
then for the Guinness WLL records to come along and say, nah,
there's not a potato.

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
Yeah. Well, we've got so many thousands of texts and
that had come through, and I'm trying to scroll back.
Someone sent me through some information arount a particularly massive
pumpkin that they were running.

Speaker 3 (01:25:08):
I did see that ticks come through, and I can't
remember how big it was, but I remember seeing that
and thinking, that's a massive pumpkin.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
See I think it was eighty five kg's So that's
why I'm scrolling through these thousands of chicks ticks, because
i'd been an eighty five kg pumpkin. Is that big
people that grow pumpkins? Is an eighty five kg pumpkin?
Unheard of? Yeah, I've grown an eighty five kg son.

Speaker 3 (01:25:31):
That's a good effort.

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
Yeah, well done, that's a good effort.

Speaker 3 (01:25:33):
That's a good effort.

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
But that seems quite doable to grow an eighty five
kg son. I've also got a I've got a ninety
five kg son as well. Now I think about it.
So I've grown some pretty big sons.

Speaker 3 (01:25:43):
You're successful growing sons, but I think it felt like.

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
Eighty five kg's for a pumpkin. Maybe someone will know
I'm a vegetable grower, and I say we should. I
know this is a different thing. Actually I've found the
wrong I thought that might be a no. That's on
a different issue that one.

Speaker 3 (01:25:56):
But if you have grown a massive vegetable, we'd love
to hear from you. Obviously, us as New Zealanders love
a good massive veggie story. So can you hear from
you on eight hundred and eighty nine ninety two is
the text number we're going to find that pumpkin text. Oh,
we are going to track it down. So many blind
texts that have come through. Okay, all right, I think Andrew,

(01:26:19):
our producer, has managed to find it. So let's play
some messages. Come back and share the story of this pumpkin.
I'm excited.

Speaker 2 (01:26:26):
One hundred eighty ten eighty. If you've found a massive
or growing a massive piece of produce, that's what we're
talking about today, and we're not going to apologize about it.

Speaker 3 (01:26:35):
All right, Good afternoon, seventeen past three. Now, just to reminder,
coming up in about ten minutes. We've got Mark Vitty
animal behaviorist. That is your opportunity to ask any questions
you've got about your dog, cat, Budgey whatever. He is
brilliant and he's taken your calls for nine two niney
two as the text number.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
So I found that text that I was looking for
and scrolling through thousand and six to fine, and I've
massively exaggerated how I grew a thirty two kg pumpkin.
I'm not questioning thirty two kgs as being not impressive,
but I did read it eighty five kg two years ago,
just for laugh. We'll definitely do it again. Love large vegetables.
My grandfather used to grow one hundred kg once a

(01:27:16):
year in Helen's Aville. One hundred kg pumpkins. Well, the biggest,
the biggest pumpkin in the world, as some texture has
come through, is one thousand, two hundred kg, So the
biggest one weigh So that's two seven and forty nine pounds,
which is if we move that into kg's, that's about

(01:27:37):
that's just over twelve hundred kg's cheapers.

Speaker 3 (01:27:40):
Yeah, so how do you grow a twelve hundred kilogram pumpkin?
You've got to feed at uranium or something.

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
Yeah, you do, You've got to feed at your own.

Speaker 3 (01:27:49):
One hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call on.
And forty six kg's that was, Oh that's a big pumpkin. Snow,
snow you've got you've got a big pumpkin.

Speaker 13 (01:27:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 27 (01:28:00):
Well, I came from Papamala, you know, and we got
a good climb at here in the twenties. So in fact,
that lady just talked, let's there a better mushrooms, probably
on the orchard. It was probably growing in the mults
of the shelter, you know, and they trimmed the shelters
and they molted it up. I found those. In fact,

(01:28:20):
I was with the guy that was the biggest hearing is,
the biggest mushroom grower in New Zealand, Stan Rob was
his name, great real estate man. And I was driving
down beside the shelter belt, just running these mushrooms over
with my wagon and he said what are you doing?
And I said, well, no, not edible those things are they?
He said, there's nothing wrong with them, mate, And we
got out and there were big mushrooms and took them

(01:28:42):
home and cooked them up like he suggested, and they
were beautiful. But anyway, back to the pumpkin one hundred
and thirteen and a half kilos. It was the year
I won it, and they were big moon pumpkins here
from America. They bought the seed in from America, so
lots of sheep manure and a good dose of Bob
Dylan on a Saturday morning.

Speaker 7 (01:29:02):
In a way, they went, right, what do you do.

Speaker 3 (01:29:04):
To make it?

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
How do you pump up a pumpkin? How do you
make a pumpkin grow biggest way?

Speaker 27 (01:29:07):
Let's say lots of lots of But you know it's
the genetics and that those big big boys that you're
talking about.

Speaker 28 (01:29:14):
It sounds huge.

Speaker 27 (01:29:15):
A thousand CAGs?

Speaker 7 (01:29:16):
Did you say that?

Speaker 27 (01:29:17):
That always sounds too big to be. I don't make
one hundred and thirteen and a half kidos look small,
but the and a half kilos when I came to
competition day, I couldn't get it onto the trailer lot.
I just couldn't lift it, you know, it was too
bulky and heavy. So get the neighbor over and we
rolled it into a big blanket and you got it

(01:29:38):
onto the trailer that way. But you know, a thousand
cag well it's.

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
One thy two hundred kg's this pumpkin War twenty twenty
three in California and there's yeah, they.

Speaker 27 (01:29:51):
Actually put electric fences around them because I read a
bit about it. It's a big thing over there because
there's money involved in at the competition days, you know,
and they fenced them off and they have guard dogs
and all sorts of carry on. You know, But tell
what you'd have to be.

Speaker 2 (01:30:05):
It's I mean, that's weighing about as much as you
cars that weigh that much. You've got a pumpkin, that ugly,
ugly old pumpkin though.

Speaker 27 (01:30:13):
The same as the Organds forward pack that got pushed
us and so that Vernal till pack that got pushed
around a couple of.

Speaker 19 (01:30:20):
Weeks ago by the chief.

Speaker 2 (01:30:25):
Yeah, you know, you know, you know, pumpkin and a hooker.

Speaker 27 (01:30:30):
Anyway, you're doing a great, great job, guys, keep up
the good worker.

Speaker 2 (01:30:34):
We're all talking a thank of you. I appreciate and
congratulation on your one hundred and thirteen point five kg pumpkin.

Speaker 3 (01:30:40):
It's big in my box, yeah, that is, I mean
it is quite competitive pumpkin growing in New Zealand. Who
would have thought.

Speaker 2 (01:30:47):
Nev are you there, Yes, I am, How are you?
You've grown a big pumpkin.

Speaker 25 (01:30:52):
Yeah, it was eighty seven eighty seven kg. Right at
home here ed rollers and we're all lived just out
of rolls, and yeah, it grew on a pole of
horse manure and care manure and it just popped up.

(01:31:14):
I didn't plant it a ceed or anything, and it
just popped up and just kept growing and growing. So
in the end it sort of was starting to fade
off and that, and I thought, well, there was a
fear on a thing over at Acara and it was
to do with Harley Davison motorbikes. And there was about

(01:31:38):
sixty or seventy motorbikes that come out from overseas and
their riders and they all met over at a coro.
But so going back to the pumpkin, I wanted to
go over to Acora and see all these motorbikes. So
I put the pumpkin. I got a farmer next door.

(01:31:59):
He put it. He had a palette and a tractor,
put the palette on the fork of the tractor and
we rolled it onto that and got it up, and
then we took it back to his place and he
weighed we weighed, and because he had he used to
shear the sheep and to get shearers around and share

(01:32:19):
the sheep, and he'd the girl go into a boil
of the wall and he used to weigh the wall
on this this weighing machine. So that's how we were
able to weigh it. And and then I took it
over to Coroa and but on the way over, we
stopped it halfway over there and we had it on

(01:32:45):
the trailer and people were stogging to look at it
and taking photos and things. And then after two or
three hours there, we went over to a Corowa and
had it there in the showgrounds where all these motorbikes
were staying. They stayed there for about eight seven days
or something, six or seven days here. So that's all

(01:33:07):
I can tell you about that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:09):
Well, that's pretty good that it just it just grew
out of its own from its own volition. You hadn't
you hadn't done anything. It just popped up. When did
you first notice it? You see it one day you're
out there and you go, guys getting pretty big.

Speaker 25 (01:33:20):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's what happened. But it took I
suppose it was. It been growing for about three months. Yeah,
you know, it took a long time too, and then
it started to go but sort of like that off
on that well, I'll take it over to the show.

Speaker 3 (01:33:38):
It's a long way to take a pumpkin though. From
Roliston Tarkaowa.

Speaker 2 (01:33:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, thank you so much for
your call, Nev. So because we all remember about that
whole situation when we're talking about giant produce, the whole
tragic situation with Doug the Spud, we do. Yeah, so
it was it wasn't it was. It was like basically
an eight kg spud. But then they sent off for

(01:34:04):
DNA testing with the Guinness ball World Records and they
came back and said to say, you tuba as a
Gord Gordon, not a spud. So that was gutting for
Donna and Colin Craig Brown.

Speaker 3 (01:34:16):
Justice for Doug. Yeah, you know, they still hope there
isn't there. I know the scientists had to look at it,
but it looked like a potato to me. Come on,
it was ugly, man, just go by the vibe yet
ugly spud.

Speaker 2 (01:34:27):
That was an ugly, ugly piece of produce. Doug the Spud.

Speaker 3 (01:34:31):
Yeah, a good time.

Speaker 2 (01:34:32):
It's not good.

Speaker 3 (01:34:33):
Oh, eight one hundred eighty ten eighties the number to call.
We'll take a few more calls very shortly. Twenty five past.

Speaker 4 (01:34:38):
Three Matt Heath and Taylor Adams.

Speaker 1 (01:34:44):
Afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty eighty on yous talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (01:34:49):
Good afternoon, it's twenty seven bas three. Now coming up
very shortly is Mark Vitti. He's taking all your questions
on your beloved pits and animals. He's animal behaviorist and
he's brilliant at what he does. But we'll wrap up
the large Fiji chat. There's some great ticks that have
come through.

Speaker 28 (01:35:07):
Come on.

Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
I won the new show with the heaviest pumpkin with
two hundred and sixty kg Atlantic Giant. We fit it
to the zoo. Elephants and Angel and Burma. Oh that
Burmer Yeah, great elephant. Yeah. Spent a good time with
Burma before they left the zoo on sixty two kg?

Speaker 3 (01:35:27):
How do you get that to the zoo?

Speaker 2 (01:35:29):
Though, that's one I'm not as impressed by, but maybe
shows how little I know about avocados. Hey, guys, we
grew a one point five kg avocado.

Speaker 3 (01:35:39):
That heavy avocado? I mean, oh yeah, I suppose it's sizable,
isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:42):
That's huge?

Speaker 20 (01:35:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:35:43):
Yeah, I mean you can't go comparing avocado size to
pumpkin size. It's very different beasts, aren't they.

Speaker 3 (01:35:48):
What's the average weight of an avocado?

Speaker 2 (01:35:51):
One point? I take that back, and my question for
you is how big was the punishing pup in the
middle of it?

Speaker 3 (01:35:58):
Yeah, well, two hundred and fifteen grams is the average
weight of an avocado.

Speaker 2 (01:36:02):
Solid. That's good. So that's a good av I take
that back, Bridget.

Speaker 3 (01:36:05):
Yeah, yeah, fantastic, right that is. We'll leave it because
coming up, as we've mentioned, Mark Vitti is joining us
for our Ask the Experts segment. He is an animal
behaviorist and TV superstar author.

Speaker 2 (01:36:19):
Yeah, great, New Zealander. So if you've got a problem
with your doggie or your cat or whatever pet you've
got in your life, Mark Vidi may well be able
to help you out. Eight hundred and eighty ten is
the number. Get in now because it'll get pretty busy.

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Certainly what it is twenty nine past three headlines coming
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Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (01:38:02):
Thank you very much, Rayleane. It is twenty seven to
four now. Mark Vitti is a world renown animal behaviorist
and dog trainer. He's been working with animals for over
forty years. You may have seen him on the Telly
or read one of his books. He's a trained animal
psychologist and created the Dogs In Online training program, and
he joins us for the first time as part of

(01:38:23):
our us the Expert segments. Good afternoon, mat made good,
there were you very good?

Speaker 2 (01:38:29):
Thank you? So I wait one undred eighty ten eighty.
If you've got a question about your pet's behavior, give
us a call right now. Boy boy, the text machine
and the phone lines are hiding up, so she'll get
straight into it.

Speaker 3 (01:38:40):
Yeah, let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:38:42):
Anna, have you got a question for Mark?

Speaker 21 (01:38:45):
I do have a question.

Speaker 16 (01:38:48):
I'm a new Hi. Hi, I'm a new catch. Oh No,
I had them when I was a kid, and then
I was allergic and then I grew out of that.
So we figured it out and got a cat and
I'm kind of ships now. Yeah, we're loving it. But
she she wakes U up every night for thirty and
she's very persistent, the needing, the nawing, the sitting on us,
licking my ears. And we've tried to lock her out

(01:39:08):
and she's torn up the carpets terrible.

Speaker 27 (01:39:11):
So what do I do.

Speaker 28 (01:39:14):
Yeah, it's good timing. I'm just literally on the last
two days of writing my cat book Cats in so
all the answers will be in there. But anyway, you're
lucky I can answer personally. I mean, basically, cats. It's
important to understand that cats, of course crepuscular and men's
kind of They hunt at dusk and dawn and through

(01:39:36):
the night, and so of course the activity cycles are
different from ours, and so we've got to take into
account the fact that they're quite active through this time. Now,
the simple answer is obviously closing it out, but as
you said, ripping up the cap and those kinds of things. Question,
what I prefer to do with a cat in those

(01:39:58):
situations is I mean, it is best simply to lock
it out or for a period otherwise, ideally, do not
reward the behavior, but at the end of the day
it'll keep persisting. More than likely, I like to have
a cattio, which which means you know, just getting even
if it's just a little area just outside one of
the windows, so they can actually move about through and

(01:40:20):
get some nighttime exposure, even though you might not want
to let them outside.

Speaker 11 (01:40:24):
At night on a veranda.

Speaker 16 (01:40:27):
So and I think it's not enclosed, but she can't
get off the veranda, so maybe we'll just have to
leave that open all the time.

Speaker 28 (01:40:34):
Yeah, well that's right. I think that's it's important for
her to be able to get access to some night stimulation.
So even just watching and smelling and looking, and the
cats are highly centaur in, you know, they kept smells
and pheromones and watching night activity. They're probably not out
at night with its when they fight and get the

(01:40:55):
disease run over, you know, Herbert dogs.

Speaker 20 (01:40:58):
So we always.

Speaker 16 (01:41:00):
Yeah, okay, well even in winter, we'll have to just
leave the windows on.

Speaker 21 (01:41:04):
The drill.

Speaker 16 (01:41:08):
Can't get off the deck, so she's not going to
get enough fy tour.

Speaker 7 (01:41:12):
Yea.

Speaker 16 (01:41:13):
We just wanted there was something we to do to
train out of it.

Speaker 28 (01:41:17):
Well, the other thing is makes you diversify her opportunity
to play as much as possible pray play, you know,
just playing pray games if you're a prey item or
toys pray item is a really good output for a cat.
So they actually want to get them to express some
of that what would otherwise be hunting behavior at night
and relieve some of that frustration.

Speaker 2 (01:41:42):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 16 (01:41:43):
As one more question, you know you go for Okay,
why does she carry like she's got this little pink blanket.
She carries it around.

Speaker 2 (01:41:52):
And what's thet.

Speaker 28 (01:41:54):
Charlie, Charlie, Yeah, I mean it's in females, it can be.
You can start when they have a false pregnancy and
so it's like a bit like one of the young
and so that that's the common course, particularly in females.
But x FE males can do that too, So they're
kind of carrying the young round or cashing objects into
their nests. There's normally the reason they do that.

Speaker 16 (01:42:17):
Wow, And it's often when we're away that she does that.
She's dragging around all the time we get home and
it works the place.

Speaker 28 (01:42:23):
Yeah, well, when you're not there, of course, that she's
not being fulfilled with that social stimulations she used to Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:42:30):
Well, thank you fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:42:32):
Think if you call Anna it sounds like Charlie's a
bit of a challenging anymal. But that makes total sense
that that what you're saying. Of course, cats don't keep
the same oles as us, so we're like, I don't
know why, I've never thought about this, but you're getting
annoyed at them. But they're like, what are you guys doing?
Lying unconscious?

Speaker 7 (01:42:46):
Come on?

Speaker 2 (01:42:50):
Yeah, okay, So your questions for Mark VIDI one hundred
and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 3 (01:42:56):
Text question here for your mark. Hi there, I have
a ball Mast of cross Lamb eighteen months old and
I am wondering what kind of dog would you recommend
to keep him company. We don't want another big dog
and he is fixed. We're just for a feeling sorry
for him looking lonely a lot of the time. Sarah
from PARMI, Yeah.

Speaker 28 (01:43:13):
I mean you normally do want a dog of kind
of similar size. You know, the pall massive lab is
a big, pretty big breed, and you probably don't want
to get a toy. You know, their play levels are
quite different in the way they play are quite different.
So medium sized breed because it's got Lab and ball
Massive they're both pretty laid back breeds, so it should

(01:43:34):
get on with just about any breed. So it really
more particularly comes down the webit to size in relation
to the dog's activity levels, so keeping it about a
medium sized dog at the minimum, I wouldn't go down
to a toy very easily, particularly if it's still a
playful dog. And of course for them to be able
to play at a similar level, it's nice to have

(01:43:55):
similar kinds of play. Different breeds have different play types
and ways of interacting, believe it or lot, so that's
you're trying to get them as close as possible so
they enjoy playing together.

Speaker 3 (01:44:07):
Very good. Right if you had a question for Mark,
now is your opportunity? Oh eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty uh and we've got a few texts coming through
A nine two ninety two as well. It is twenty
one to four.

Speaker 1 (01:44:19):
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Speaker 4 (01:44:27):
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Speaker 3 (01:44:30):
Is eighteen to four and on the line joining us
as Mark Vitty, animal behaviorist author TV star the works. Mark,
thanks again for your time.

Speaker 2 (01:44:41):
Please well, Helger, you've got a question for Mark?

Speaker 25 (01:44:46):
Yes?

Speaker 17 (01:44:48):
Can I speak a little espaniel to ask you, I
think give given English for me. Okay, well you know
what the yama is? Lama yama, I think through twice
here LamaH yeah, yama ye yea. Is it legal to
have one in your backyard? I've seen them on my

(01:45:10):
hair key and I know they're over on the north shore.
But is there a law?

Speaker 28 (01:45:18):
Good question, a musical question, but good question the first person.
If it's in a in a rural area, no problem,
you know, and they can be a family in a
rural area perhaps earlier. But if you're in an eban situation,
then you'll need a license. But it's probably important to
think about one important thing. Lambas are a social animal.

(01:45:38):
They need to be in a social group.

Speaker 22 (01:45:40):
So need.

Speaker 2 (01:45:45):
How much space have you got?

Speaker 17 (01:45:47):
I've got a townhouse, a new one in fans own place.

Speaker 25 (01:45:51):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:45:53):
You can't let too many lambs in the I don't
like the option.

Speaker 17 (01:45:59):
No, No, it's town side. We've got a pick up
high used to be where the race sources are the grass.

Speaker 2 (01:46:05):
Oh yeah yeah.

Speaker 28 (01:46:07):
You can only check out with the city canceled.

Speaker 3 (01:46:09):
They will tell you what the mark, what's the minimum of.

Speaker 28 (01:46:12):
The special license? If you've got the needs that need
to be meant by that species in terms of it's
your main care.

Speaker 2 (01:46:18):
What are the minimum aout of lamas that you should have, Mark.

Speaker 28 (01:46:22):
Well, you'd probably want three minimum, but yeah, you know,
and thanks for the lone time.

Speaker 2 (01:46:29):
And thank you for your call.

Speaker 3 (01:46:31):
Holga very good.

Speaker 2 (01:46:32):
Don you've got a desh and poppy puppy, poppy puppy
you want to talk to Mark about?

Speaker 14 (01:46:39):
Thank you Mark? Great have you on the show. We've
got a possibly six month old besture and puffy female,
very hard toilet train. We have a butt of them.
We take her outside regularly. She gets three when when
the when the job's done. We've had the mats down

(01:47:03):
on the house, but she'll still go pretty much anywhere
at times.

Speaker 28 (01:47:08):
Yeah, so what I normally do? I mean, we've got
a code for a puppy school dogs in fifty if
you want to jump on and for at least a
month or two. And I explained to you in detail
what I consider recommend as the best house training approach

(01:47:28):
and basically just put simply, it requires a pen area
with a crate inside. Because I like to great train
my puppies the surface inside that pen, I tend to
use plastic down an astro to, but you can use
other things because what they're going to learn is based
on the substreet under their feet where they toilet. That's
what they're going to want to toilet on into the future.

(01:47:50):
So choose something. Of course, it's not going to be
found in the house, and that's in the pen area.
If that pen ere you can have a doged or out,
that's perfect, and we'd rather that goes out pretty close
to a grassy area or a garden. And because of
course we really want to can't toilet out they're not inside.
But what you're doing is you're generalizing the concept of
the crate or they're den slowly into the house if

(01:48:12):
you can imagine that they don't have a concept of
the house. Of course, So once you start, when you
create and your pen which they can toilet and then
outside to the only other option. Then during that time,
whenever they come into the house and they're under super
they should be under supervision, certainly after half an hour
of toileting, certainly within an hour of toileting, and after

(01:48:33):
that point I normally clip station train them, which is
a technique I teach to teach them to line a
bed with a little clip station and they won't toilet
on that either, so you can leave them there, you
leave them in a crate, you can have them on
what I call them a bullock or cord where I
run a line off my waist when I'm working and
training them, and otherwise don't leave them on supervised for
that thirst few months because obviously they don't know what

(01:48:57):
to toilet on at that point. But that's the design.
If you jump on the course, there's got several hundred
families on the course, so everyone's working at this stuff,
and so you're working with them. There's a close Facebook page,
so you get to see and everyone's talking about how
they're going and there issues and I'm there to advise.
So but it really gives you the most simple way

(01:49:20):
to do it, considering the way dogs learned to house train.

Speaker 14 (01:49:27):
Thanks very much, Mark, that's advice.

Speaker 2 (01:49:31):
Thank you. You call don so. Look we've got we've
got Ginny here. You've got a demented cat that's chewing
and stealing. Mark. Here's Jinny.

Speaker 26 (01:49:44):
Hi, Hi, Matt. Myke hats three years old and she's
awe sweetie. She really is well. But then she's got
a different side to her like she'll jump up and
jump up on the bench in the kitchen, which is
not supposed to be there, and she will look at

(01:50:05):
me and then she'll slide everything off the bench.

Speaker 14 (01:50:08):
Onto the floor.

Speaker 26 (01:50:11):
And it tries to chew the corn on the computer.
She will completely annihilate toilet paper. She steals things like
my top plate, my glasses, and she'll take them outside
on top of the tool sheet.

Speaker 4 (01:50:29):
What's her name, Well, it's a bit of a story.

Speaker 15 (01:50:33):
Quickly.

Speaker 26 (01:50:35):
I've got two other cat cakes and I named them
Merlo and she Air. And my husband said, you're not
naming this cat after wine, so he's named.

Speaker 22 (01:50:44):
That Bourbon short.

Speaker 2 (01:50:46):
That's the problem.

Speaker 19 (01:50:47):
Yeasay, yeah.

Speaker 26 (01:50:54):
Lots of loving are used water.

Speaker 28 (01:50:58):
Is to enrich their environment. And normally what I like
to do. One of the things is cats like high spots,
so I always like to make sure in the house
I've got some cat runways that are above things like
the bench and those kind of places. So and I
want an access way up to that, and I want

(01:51:20):
and the idea would also like an axis into a
bit of a cadio that always has another diverse kind
of environment where you can plant have enriching toys and
those kind of things they really need to have enrichment
cats and so enriching them with the regular play sessions
and so that's.

Speaker 22 (01:51:42):
Toys. Yeah, I've got toys from them.

Speaker 28 (01:51:47):
Yeah, I was pretty strongly on making sure I've got
vertical high walkways through the house where they can move
about instead of using the bench as the as the
area where they want to go and play on. Certainly,
I sometimes I'll put something like turnfall or plastic cup
on the bench to dissuade them. There is little things

(01:52:09):
like little emotion controlled air admitters that just have a
little bit of a kind of them when you jump
onto those kind of spaces. So there's those kind of
things you can use as well, but really enriching, adding
diversity of the environment, adding play and stimulation opportunities, and
of course we want to displace them off any type

(01:52:31):
of benchtops and things like that, make sure they're not
fed on there or getting access to those spaces and preference.
But if you try that, riching is the real trick
in this situation.

Speaker 2 (01:52:40):
Well, thank you for you call Jenny, and look, we've
got thousands of texts coming through and the lines of
four we're not going to able to get to one
hundredth of the callers and texters. But we're bet with
Mark in just a couple of minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:52:54):
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Speaker 4 (01:53:00):
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Speaker 6 (01:53:07):
There be.

Speaker 3 (01:53:09):
Dogs seven or four. Mark Vedas are Viti is our
guest and animal behaviorists tell us, how are you hey going?

Speaker 7 (01:53:19):
Guys?

Speaker 3 (01:53:19):
Good? You're on with Mark?

Speaker 29 (01:53:22):
Hey, Hey going? Mark? Hey, I've got a four and
a half year old male rot wheeler and you know,
predominantly eighty percent of the time. You know, he's really good.
He's sort of been Socialis took him to the dog
parks when he was young, no problems, but sort of
like now, if when we're walking him, we walk him

(01:53:43):
off the lead up to the rail park, and if
we come across the other dogs, he's all good, but
you know, like some other you know, dog going to
sort of freak out. So then we will go to
grab him and put him on the lead. But as
soon as you sort of touch his collar or put
him on the lead, he sort of turns into Kujo
and gets real grown. And the same with when he's
in a vehicle.

Speaker 22 (01:54:02):
Yeah, towards you, no, not the other dog, the other dogs.

Speaker 29 (01:54:08):
Yeah, Like he can be happy, he just wants to play.
But as soon as you're sort of like.

Speaker 18 (01:54:11):
Oh, we're out of here and try and grab him,
he gets a row towards the other.

Speaker 28 (01:54:15):
Dog, right, okay, Yeah, And is he this desext or not?

Speaker 18 (01:54:21):
So?

Speaker 29 (01:54:21):
Yeah, probably about six months ago we desect them. And
I think that has made it worse.

Speaker 28 (01:54:28):
Yeah, yeah, it shouldn't. But but interestinct when you leave
it that to that late. You know, he's fully mature
by two and a half, you know, so he's he's
got all his masculine secondary sexual characteristics, which is part
of that his dominance, particularly the rotties. Of course they're
pretty dominant. But sounds like you're don't put your job
with the socialization generally, So that's good news. What I'd

(01:54:51):
be doing what I teach, and you can if you
want to jump on dogs in dot com and go
dogs in fifty and just jump on for a month
fifty percent of the rate, then have a look at
the meet and greet technique that I teach, and that
meat and greet technique is using quicker training and lead
and the color and you're working them. And we start

(01:55:12):
with working with good dogs in controlled situations, and that's
the trick. We need to teach him or reteach him
how to behave in that context where you engage, you know,
where you get involved. And of course part of that
getting involved is normally because he's starting to potentially read possibly,
so what we're wanting to happen in that situation we
want to keep him a learning state, that's all. We

(01:55:34):
use a clicker. We want to click more of water
and teach him how to both withdraw and we ask
him to come when you call him and leave it,
you know, leave the situation alone and not redirect, which
is what he's doing in that situation.

Speaker 2 (01:55:47):
Wow, thank you.

Speaker 28 (01:55:49):
It's a pretty simple technique, but it's an important one,
particular for Rodiana to learn because when they fire off
and then a crack of the dog, thanks and go
wrong real quick.

Speaker 2 (01:55:58):
So well, had that helped Dallas and Mark, Hey, thank
you so much. We've just the You wouldn't believe how
many texts and phone calls we've come through. So we'll
have to get you on it again. And thank you.
You're a great New Zealander. Sort of appreciate spending some
time with you, oh good man.

Speaker 28 (01:56:12):
Straight on to the public, the schools and little man at.

Speaker 2 (01:56:15):
The other end.

Speaker 3 (01:56:15):
Absolutely, Mark will catch up again in a few weeks,
Thank you very much. You can catch Mark Vidi at
dogs in dot com. That is us for today.

Speaker 2 (01:56:23):
Yeah, an apologies to everyone who didn't get through boy
over where. There was a lot of communication coming through
on our machines. But have a great afternoon and give
them a taste of kei. We till we see you tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:56:38):
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