Full Show Podcast: 26 March 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hello you great New Zealanders, and welcome to Manton Tyler
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And welcome to Mantain Tyler Afternoons Full Show Pod number
ninety five for the twenty sixth of March. It is
our Wednesday. Had a great show. At the end, there's
a lot of stuff about fixing your car, and.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
We went deep.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
We went deep into personal responsibility and the health care
of your life is at the government's fault or yours
if you're sick. And we went into that so much
because somebody text and calls that we dropped a topic, didn't.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
We We did. Yeah, and we're going to talk about
people being.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
A bit Yeah, we might do that tomorrow actually, because
people do seem to be getting pretty angry at the
moment and road workers and parking parking wardens get it.
You get it in the face anyway, great show today.
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(01:16):
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Speaker 4 (01:19):
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Speaker 5 (01:31):
There'd be.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Well, get a to you, welcome into the show. Seven
past one, met and Tyler with you until four pm. Great,
dev your company is always good a mets.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah, hey, Tyler, get everyone.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
So you were you had the Super long Bowls two
last night? Is that right? The Super Bowls?

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, it's a lawn bowl tournament for an association with November.
Oh you're great, Cherry, Yeah, from Men's Mental Health.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
And how'd you go?

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Had you absolute? Like, let's just say, how do I
put this?

Speaker 5 (02:09):
I won?

Speaker 3 (02:10):
You won for the second year in a row. Yeah,
and I take it because it was a charity. You
were you were gracious in your win, you were humble.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Percent it was I was humbled in victory. And I
think I made that clear to the people that were there.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Well, someone sent me a bit of audio, so let's
just have a wee listen here.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
What it's all about?

Speaker 6 (02:39):
Something to people one.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Day say I don't know if that's humble, Is that
what you call humble?

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah? So I was saying to the crowd there and
the teams that we had defeated something world Champions, which
is an exaggeration. It's only the super Bowls out at
the Mount Eden Bowling Club. But here's something for you
to aspire to one day. You could be as good
as as as I am at lawn Bowls.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Ye, and you stay gracious for the whole night. Things
didn't get a little bit loose later on, No, not
not even during the the award ceremony when you got
the cup, well well I've got sent another bit of
audio easily, World Champions, World Champions.

Speaker 7 (03:18):
That's better.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
When as as a tradition, I was drinking out of
the out of the cup, World Champions, World and that's
a that's a tribute to Chase Utley, the fantastic. You
know when Philadelphia won the World Series, World Champions, World Champions,
well well done mate, Yeah, uncouth language. And you know

(03:40):
it was for male mental health, you know, for November
the charity, and they're going to need all their resources
to deal with the humiliation that we laid down on
their team. I'm going to need all their resources. When
I asked Stuart Jarna or a team.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Who was did you let the Well, obviously you won,
but who was who was dragging the team down? Surely
that was you?

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Was it? No?

Speaker 3 (04:01):
No, And that is quite a good no. What I hear?

Speaker 2 (04:03):
No, I was. I was right up there. I was
you know, I was the skip. Yeah, so I was
in charge. And what I did heroically is when the
way the tournament was running, there was a bowl that
I had to bowl that could only mess things up
and make us lose. And this was in the final,
and I heroically just drilled it into the ditch to
the booze of the entire crowd. Accusations of unsportsmanship. You

(04:27):
know who's holding the trophy.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
At the end of the day without your own balls though, yeah,
which are regulation balls. They get checked out by the judge,
checked out, nonsense.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
They actually got checked out by one of the people
that was running and they said, these are the worst
lawn bowls they've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Ragged, absolutely ragged. Well Well done mate. I don't know
if there's going to be a third, but well done.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
I wanted again next year, no doubt that.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
On to today's show because it is Wednesday. That means
we've got our ass the experts series and this week
we have met the mechanic. Matt Bollan is his name.
He's had thirty eight years experience as a mechanic for
pretty much every franchise brand you can think of, and
he'll be taking your calls and questions absolutely after three thirty.
After three o'clock, there are report about Liam Lawson being

(05:10):
dumped and questions about whether those reports are true or not.
But we're going to have a chance to New Zealand
Herald Motorsport correspondent Alex Pale just after three pm. We
want to hear from you. How do you feel about
how this whole thing is unfolded for Liam clearly an
incredibly cutthroat sport and ruthless. We're just going to say
these are the reports.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
This is just reports at this point, Tyler, we don't
know for sure there is being dropped.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
I'm getting angry, yeah, I'm getting upset on behalf of Liam.
But that is after three o'clock and speaking about anger
after two o'clock are we angrier than we've ever been.
A Couple of stories this morning that you may have seen.
One was on the abuse faced by parking wardens, and
they've got this new body cam trial that they've got
underway at the moments, and the other one was really shocking.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
So road workers, a quarter of road workers get verbally
abused every day, So one and four road workers are
getting abused, and it's not the same quarter, so it
goes between the rotates. Yeah, but that means every fourth
day someone abuse uses you on the roads. And that's
a level of anger because it's not there if the
roadworker's fault, that there's stupid decisions made by people above them,

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and maybe we disagree with the roads and the delays
that are on there, but to abuse the person that's
just doing their jobs, that's just pure anger where it's
not needed.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Not called for.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah, we abuse the people that have made the decisions,
you know. And if you want to yell at a
road cone, go for gold, but just not the human roadcnes. Well,
wherever you yell in New Zealand, you're yelling within a
meter of a road cone these days.

Speaker 7 (06:39):
Very true.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
That is half to two o'clock. But right now, let's
have a chat about personal responsibility when it comes to
our own health and our own diet. So it's on
the back of a great piece by Audrey Young or
Winston Peter's ahead of his eightieth birthday.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yes, so he's very healthy. Winston Peter's. Actually a couple
of gentlemen approached Winston Peters to talk about how good
his skin locks at age eighty.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
Whinston, do you have a like a skincare rootin because
you haven't really aged much of my whole life.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Well, eat well for a start, ruff, So what do
you love to gree Lots of fish lots.

Speaker 5 (07:17):
And greens.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
And poor muscles when you were doing it before everyone
was vegan.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Well, fish heads is very just you realized it's the
greatest conversation on Avega three is in the fish.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Head, right fish head, the fish head. He's munching fish head.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Loves the Amiga three and the fish head.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
And he went on to say when St. Peter's I
think diet is absolutely critical. And the reality is, I
don't think we can win this battle in terms of
the health system in this country unless there is a
massive dietary change. So I guess the question is it
up to the health system to save you or is
it up to the individual individual to stay as healthy
as they can and not be a burden on the
health system. If you see what I'm saying is and

(07:59):
if so, what is the best way to stay healthy?
Is it munching fish heads? You know, what are the
basics that we should be following. And look, I think
we'd absolutely be there for people when when when crisis comes,
But we are just are we ever going to have
enough money to fix the health system if people are

(08:19):
just becoming unhealthy and and putting the pressure on the
health of yourself, because you could just put as much
money as you want down there, it just keep going,
keep going. Absolutely, So do you owe your nation and
your your fellow New Zealanders to remain healthy through your life?
You know, ask not what your country can do for you,
ask what you can do for your for your country.

(08:41):
To quote you know jfk from is inaugural speech in
nineteen sixty.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
It's a great line.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah, so should the whole push of the health service
be look after yourself? But if something goes really bad,
we'll see what we can do. But ultimately, your health
and your and your children health is your own responsibility.
And that seems like a common sense thing. Obviously, your
health is your own responsibility in the end. But I
don't think that is the message we really get. Is
it all we ever hear is the health service needs

(09:06):
more money. The health serve as a mess. There's too
many you know, there's too much pressure on the system.
We don't have enough doctors. But really, is the problem
just us that we're becoming more and more unhealthy when
we don't need to be.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
I agree with a lot of what you've just said there,
but I think there are leavers or things that the
government can do and should do to push people in
the right direction to live a healthier life. And I'll
get a lot of pushback on that, and please I
eight one hundred eighty ten eighty, but surely that's been
of value for money. As you say, the health system

(09:41):
at the moment, we don't have enough cash for anything.
It's just a bottless pit of money that we're checking in.
It should be for those who are desperately ill or
life and death situations, not for people who eat too
much KFC. So what do you think the government should do?
I think there are ways that they could direct people
to do the right thing to make it easier. And
whether that is and again. I'm gonna get whipped on

(10:04):
the text machine here and I'm ready for it. But
whether that is making the right food a bit cheaper
and making the wrong food a bit more expensive the.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Right directions to go to, you can do all that,
but people are just going to have to make the
suice the south. I think. I think it's a fundamental change.
It's not that the government needs to make this food
easier or you know, lead the horse to bloody water.
It's it's that the message needs to be your health

(10:31):
is your responsibility. That is the message. That's that's the
only message you get. Your health is your responsibility. Your
kid's health is your responsibility. That should just be the
only message. Because you can do whatever you want, Tyler,
you can hand out free bloody What do you think
is healthy food cost?

Speaker 7 (10:47):
Couse?

Speaker 3 (10:47):
One's pretty good? Oh yeah, of cost of course? Yeah.
What was it is that queenwa Quena was all the
rage about two years ago?

Speaker 2 (10:55):
So whatever it is currently deemed to be the healthy
food that can seem often change. I see the eggs
about being demonized again.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
I love eggs.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
You know, you could you could make that cheaper, but
do you think that's really the difference do you think
do you think people are just going in and they're
being unhealthy because it's cheaper to be unhealthy.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
There will always be a percentage of the population we
can't save. No matter what we do or give them
or help them out, they will always be what is
effectively a lost cause. And I don't know what you
do with that percentage of the population, but if we
can change the behavior of ten percent, even five percent,
that's a five percent saving down the road in the
house system as a whole. And again, whatever lever you

(11:33):
Paul will be controversial. But maybe it is getting kids
to set up gardens in the primary school, you know,
so they can figure out how to grow food and
do all that sort of stuff. And I know that
sounds a bit nath but I think there are ways
that you can push people towards making the right decisions,
like Key we Saver for saving. We were prep savers,
they set up key we Saver. Now we're a lot
better and we've got all this money sitting there and

(11:53):
we are healthier for it. As a nation.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Well, honestly, I think that maybe that's all very good,
But I think that you know that the only people
that want to change will do that right. So I
think personally that the messaging from the government should be
your health is your responsibility. Yeah, adds everywhere, your health
is your responsibility. Your kid's health is your responsibility.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
It's good campaign.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
And if you change people's behavior by you bring up
the number of arbitrary numbers, five percent of people start
looking after then maybe it takes a pressure off the
health system. But I don't think people think that. I
don't think people think that their health is their responsibility.
I think people think that that their health is the
health system's responsibility.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Yeah. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. This is going to be a great discussion.
If you want to flick a tech she can nine
two ninety two, but love to hear from you on oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty. It is eighteen past one.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

Speaker 5 (12:50):
Matt and Taylor afternoons with the Volvo.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
XC ninety, attention to detail and a commitment to comfort
news talks.

Speaker 5 (12:57):
There'd be.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Afternoon. It is twenty pass one. And whose responsibility is
it to be as healthy as possible?

Speaker 7 (13:04):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (13:04):
The government or is it your own personal responsibility?

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yeah, so this text here, Hey Matt, what are you
going to do if someone comes to you with a
heart attack?

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Way them first.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying that
the message should be so I still want the backstop
of the house system. I just think the message from
the health system should be always your health is your responsibility.
Your children's health is your responsibility. That should be the
messaging that comes out. Of course, we're going to if
someone comes to health with a heart attack and they're overweight,
we're still going to save them. But I just think

(13:32):
the thinking of the nation needs to change. Otherwise we're
just going to spend more and more and more money
on the health system and nothing and things will just
get worse and worse. Andy, Andy, your thoughts.

Speaker 8 (13:46):
On this, Yeah, guys, and I believe in personal responsibility.
You can't rely on the state to provide everything for you.
If everyone does that, we just get clogged down like
we're seeing at the moment. I mean, I have insurance
with AIA who do a vitality program that gives you

(14:06):
a ten percent reward on your premiums if you follow
certain activities or games if you want to call it
that way and such as you know, you've got to
go to the gym two or three times a week
and they reward you with three hundred points and dotor
point and they give you another thousand points. So the
goal is to get to twenty thousand points and by

(14:28):
the end of the year, and then they'll give you
ten percent off. So you follow these healthy steps that
they tell you that you should be doing, then they
reward you. So potentially you could say to the government,
well let's let's do that. Then if you do these
healthy options, or maybe give you a text refund or something.
I don't know, but we should do that.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
I've got that app as well, Andy, and that's why
I think you know that those weak pushes in the
right direction can be beneficial. And like you, I've done
pretty well on my way Vitality app getting my points up.
Sometimes sometimes I'm pretty crap at it, but I want
my little five dollars market at the end of the week.

Speaker 9 (15:10):
It's help.

Speaker 8 (15:19):
I've gone from five point seven down to five point
two in the space of three months.

Speaker 9 (15:23):
It's working.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yeah, the situation where the doctor said to me that
you might need to be on statins or whatever there,
you know, for cholesterol. And then I said, oh, don't
put me on that. I'll see what I can do
about it. And then I just started running and when
I went back, they said, oh, you don't need them
at all, so I could have you know, you can
take the option. And at that point, and it's a
complex issue to just get on an endless treadmill of

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taking a drug or and there's some occasions you can
you can just you know, phoning up and sort it
out yourself.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Yeah, yeah, and you thank you very much. And just
on that, I I would thought that would be general
advice from your GP that if you come in with
a health issue that can be sorted out with lifestyle changes.
I would hope that would be the first advice they
would give you and say, you were quickly on the
road to becoming diabetic. Unless we can set you up

(16:18):
with a plan, we can get you down to a dietitian.
Surely that would be the first first step rather than
straight to we're going to get you on some drugs.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, and a basic thing, you know, with what I'm
saying that the messaging should be and just the general
thought that should be in everyone's head across the country
is that your own health is your own responsibility, you know,
and your kid's health is your own. Is your responsibility?
Is we don't have enough money now to deal with
people that are seriously disabled. We've got serious problems of

(16:48):
our country with mental health. There's a lot of people
that need to be helped that, by no fault of
their own, are in a bad way. So if you're
clogging the system because you didn't take charge of your
own health, then you may not be the moral paragon
of virtue that you think you are.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah, nicely said, Oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty
is the number to call love to hear your thoughts
on this one. It is twenty four past one.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers the mic asking breakfast.

Speaker 10 (17:16):
The government is having a crack at cross party support
for their RIMA reform. Labor Party leader Crucipkins, where are
you at.

Speaker 11 (17:22):
We're keen to try and achieve some suits and teacher
New Zealanders. So if we can find a way forward
that involves a bit of compromise, and then we're very
keen to talk to them.

Speaker 8 (17:29):
One of the things that.

Speaker 11 (17:30):
We've heard a lot from New Zealanders is the ping
pong where each government comes in and just changes everything
the last government did is actually getting a bit dizzy, InKo.

Speaker 7 (17:37):
People.

Speaker 11 (17:37):
Compromise will be required on both sides if we're going
to get something that's a bit more stable and that
avoids that.

Speaker 6 (17:42):
Now.

Speaker 10 (17:42):
I was very pleased to hear you say that the
other day, but then I asked Ginny Anderson about.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Your charter schools and she botched that.

Speaker 10 (17:48):
So on one hand you're saying we want to cooperate,
on another hand, we're not canceling stuff. And then you
are back tomorrow at six am the mic asking Breakfast
with Mayley's real Estate Newstalk z B.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
It's twenty seven past one, and we've asked the question,
whose responsibility is it to be as healthy as possible? Yeah,
because Whinson Peter says, I think diet is absolutely critical
and the reality is I don't think we can win
this battle in terms of the health system in this
country unless there is a massive dietary change. So whose
responsibility is your health? Is it that the governments or
is it your own?

Speaker 5 (18:18):
Ray?

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 6 (18:20):
Curer Tailor Curll the Mike killed at being a bit
harsh today.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Come on, am I isn't he give them heaps?

Speaker 7 (18:28):
Ray?

Speaker 6 (18:28):
Yeah, I'm a huge believer in personal responsibility, don't get
me wrong. Look, I think a person's house does come
down to their person and their family. But I'm really
open to the government investing where it can be shown
to have a benefit for children in relation to their
health that have become adults.

Speaker 12 (18:47):
And I guess.

Speaker 6 (18:47):
Specifically what I'd be talking about would be growing vegetables
and schools, learning healthy eating in schools, empowering community based
organizations to support young people and their families to make
healthier life style choices. And I guess an example that
an Auckland is the guy he used to run that

(19:10):
food place out south would also be seen regularly walking
out of people up Motions Road by orkan zoos, just
like the simple things to get people to be a
bit more healthy. And Matt, I agree with you, like
health is your own responsibility to take care of for
you and your family, but when it's not happening, I'm

(19:30):
really open to the government investing our tax days money
into areas where it can be shown to be of
benefit to a young person long term, because, as Tyler said,
if we're keeping like five percent more people out of
hospital G two diabetes and preventable illness, in my mind,

(19:52):
that's actually money well spent.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
I don't think we're as far apart as you think
on this, right. I'm saying that the health service should
be there to help people, and we should be actively
trying to do stuff for them and whatever programs we can.
But my point is really that the messaging should change,
and that the messaging should be that your health is
your own responsibility and your children's health is your responsibility.

(20:15):
And look, so that is the basic message that gets
out there, so everyone knows that their own health is
their own responsibility through their life. They can be in
partnership with the health system, absolutely, and maybe that's a
better way to put it. You're in partnership, but they're
not there to save you. They're there to help you
if things go wrong and help you through your journey

(20:38):
through life. But it's in partnership.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
They're not.

Speaker 13 (20:44):
I agree.

Speaker 6 (20:45):
I agree with you, But like I really think it's
about getting people to come along on the road. And
I think if we just say to people, actually, your
health is your responsibility and you know your you are
where you are because of your choices of life, which
which could be true, but I don't hope that's actually
very helpful to changing the situation. I think much better

(21:05):
to Don't.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
People love that?

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Don't people love being able to take charge of things?

Speaker 12 (21:09):
Though?

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Isn't that what purpose and meaning in life comes in?

Speaker 6 (21:12):
Yeah, you mean give me you Me and Tyler probably do.
But I think there'd be groups of people will be said,
our cats on you. You know, your health is your responsibility.
I don't know that will work with all groups. And
I think empowering local community organizations like you know, the
Butterbean Foundations things like that, and empowering like primary schools
to give because of an education around healthy eating and

(21:35):
so and so on. And I hear you as read
the thing that's up to the parents. I get it,
But if the parents aren't doing that, I really think
the primary school is a good place to get becauds
when they're really young and teach them good skills around
healthy eating and health and life.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Well, we're not going to ever convince everyone to do something,
but I think if the ethos sort of a morality
through society is that your health is your own responsibility.
Even if it's only a small percentage of people that
you change from thinking their health system is there to
save you, then I think that's enough to take the

(22:13):
pressure off because right now we're living in this more
modern world that we're living in right now, and technology
is increasing, and we have all these amazing medical advancements,
and yet we're getting more unhealthy, and the health system
is getting more and more overrun, and we're just throwing
more and more money at it. So it's definitely not
going to be the complete solution, Ray, but I believe

(22:36):
it should be part of the solution that we change.
We attempt to change the thinking on the house service.

Speaker 6 (22:45):
Maybe it's both those things, telling people they're responsible for
their health and investing in programs, which has shown being
official two children as they grown adults.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah, I think I agree. I think we agree.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
Ray. Yep, very good, Ray, Thank you very much. O
eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
We've got headlines with Ray Lean and full boards. If
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ten eighty. It is twenty eight to two US talks.

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(24:15):
on the real reasons for Winston Peters war on Wokness.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
You can see the full column at end, said Herald Premium.
Back to Matt Eathan Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
Thank you very much, Raylian. We're talking about personal responsibility
when it comes to our health on the back of
an interview that was done with Winston Peters.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
That's right, and he said, I think diet is absolutely crucial.
And the reality is I don't think we can win
this battle in terms of the health system in this
country unless there is a massive dietary change. And look,
Winston Peters is eighty. He's sharp as attack as that
audio played before some young people looking at him and going, boy,
you have not aged in my life. He looks great.
He does have great genes though, because he's got ten

(24:52):
of his siblings are in their eighties and his mum
lived to ninety six, so there is a genetic element
to it. But he's also all about munching on the
fish heads for the amiaga. And although you've got to
say with Winston Peters, he's at the odd dart, he said,
the other risky. They have not driven life.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Yeah, but you.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Would say he's an example of a of a powerful
eighty year old.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Clearly he takes it seriously. His diet. Quick couple of
texts and we'll get to more of your phone calls
like this one. Guys. I work for Fletchers and we
get a full free health check every year. Plus we
have free access to an act called Sounder, who you
can talk to just about anyone health, financial exercise. It
is free for our family members as well. I believe
companies have a right and expectation to look after their staff.

(25:38):
Healthy and mentally healthy staff equals less sickly. It's a
win win, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
But I think if you empower people and you tell
them that that's the one of the one of their
one of their missions in life, one of the things
they have to do is to be healthy. I think
whether it's a company or the country as a whole,
then I think people will lean into it. I just
don't think that's that that people walk around going, it's
my job to stay healthy for the good of the

(26:04):
health system. I think people walk around going it's the
country's job to me healthy, whether it's taxing this or
sorting this out or fixing me up. This text to
here says a doctor at hospital, timing ninety percent of
his work was a result of personal action. Bad diet,
lack of exercise, smoking, drinking, advertising plays a huge part
in bad lifestyle choices and advertising works. But I would say,

(26:26):
you know, and the people decide, there will always to
be temptations in life, and this you work out how
you combat temptation. And sometimes the best way to combat
temptation is to have a mission and.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
A purpose that you're working towards. Because you can do
whatever you want.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
About the temptations, there'll be another temptation. Yeah, that's just
the way it works. You can't hide people from everything.
You can't protect people from absolutely everything.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
Yeah, and as we all know, when you are fit
and healthy, life is just generally better. But trying to
get that message to people out there, I mean, that's
what I'm confused about. Why is there that percentage of
the population that don't understand that that if they are
fitter and healthier and they look after themselves, it's not
so much for them about a less of a strain
on the health system. You will be a happier person,

(27:12):
You will do better at life generally by being fitter
and healthier.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Mental health, as someone says, does taking personal responsibility for
one's mental health account and this taking responsibility your health, Yeah, well,
if you take responsibility for the other parts of your health,
your mental health, will will can can come along with it. Yeah,
And I like just to you know, go back to
the COVID times. There was never a message in COVID
times that look, if you're healthy, you've got a much

(27:35):
better chance of fighting this illness and getting through it quicker,
you know. And if you're very, very healthy, then this
illness is not not very dangerous. But if you're if
you're if you're unhealthy, then this illness could be dangerous.
So I was always surprised, right through lockdowns that the
messaging from what from the government wasn't eat well and

(27:56):
exercise and strengthen yourself for the potential of catching this virus.
But that message should be across everything. You know, eat
well and exercise and strengthen yourself to take on this
life and whatever comes that way.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
It's a great campaign.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Yeah, all right, there's those my thoughts. What about yours? Donner?

Speaker 12 (28:18):
Hey guys, boy, this is a complex topic, isn't it.

Speaker 8 (28:22):
Wait?

Speaker 3 (28:22):
Really?

Speaker 12 (28:24):
Yeah, firstly, they you need to read a book called
The Great Cholesteromas. I've got that to thank for not
actually being on statins. I was prescribed those probably gosh
eighteen years ago now. But yeah, one thing I will
say is you can't exercise your way out of a
bad diet. And the thing is, you don't know what
a bad diet is. If you don't know what you

(28:44):
don't know if you know what I mean. Yeah, Dr
b Weaver sort of lives by the mantra of up
your greens and eat as cleanly as you can. And
there's a couple called the Healthy Patch Formula. If you
look them up, you're an Australian couple. They're huge on
doing organics and growing your own sort of leafy greens

(29:05):
and that sort of thing. And it's a really really
cheap way to get healthier. And it makes a huge
difference because whatever you're eating, you're eating whatever it's eaten.
So if you're eating a letters that's full of kepticides
with no nitrogen and you know, all the all the
fundamentals and minerals that you need from soil, you're really
not getting the things that your body needs at a

(29:26):
cellular level. Sorry to get too deep, but this is
just all the types.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Of books I've gotten read because you like Donald.

Speaker 12 (29:33):
Yeah, I just yeah, I've probably read about hard and
five hundred books. And there's a guy called Robert Louvestick
from the States, who was actually a surgeon on for children,
and he actually had to give it away because he said,
at the top level, you know, people aren't just getting
educated on you know, bad oils and trogolessrides and all

(29:53):
of those things. That He's got a book called Metabolical,
which you might find really interesting. But yeah, if you
take it back to the fundamentals of caveman food, that's
what we should be eating, not pet beside laden, yeah saying,
and not meat if it's got antibiotics, because you're trying
not to eat antibiotics and at the end of the

(30:14):
day to get your gut microbiome going. That's one of
the biggest health things. But yeah, it's just kind of
like it's multifested. I just think if we come at
it from an education level at school, so kids at
least know what healthy.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
It's interesting that though, Donna, when I was a kid,
so we were, I used to think I was being
healthy if I ate pasta and if I ate piles
and piles of white bread, because bread was healthy for you.
And also I was so uneducated that I thought RaRo
was good for you because it was orange juice. And
it's definitely delicious. But yeah, yeah, I just when we

(30:53):
thought we were doing the right thing, it was actually
the wrong thing. So knowing so absolutely within my idea
that the messaging from the government should be that your
health is your own responsibility, and your children's health is
your responsibility as well. Should also be what is healthy
that there should be there should be education on that

(31:15):
as well. So the primary thing is that your health
is your own responsible. Secondary to that is just let's
get out there what is actually healthy, because I would
have been just punishing RaRo going good on me? This
is this is health.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
It's good to say I.

Speaker 12 (31:30):
Put brainsys and cigarettes I had in my earlier days
were good.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
For me too.

Speaker 12 (31:34):
And I tell you certainly learn, you know, like, but
it's just one thing, like I do find that doctor.
I mean, doctors are fantastic, don't get me wrong, but
you know they they are taught primarily to help people
out when they come there, diagnose and medicate. I mean,
they're they're there to help you that way. But I
mean when I took this book into my doctor and said, look,

(31:54):
I don't want status and I've got mike cholesterol down
myself through just amping up my grains and changing, you know,
a few things. But he wanted to read it. He
was actually open to reading it because, like you said, hey,
what's the title? Wrote it down and actually got a
copy and see, do you know, because you know, we
don't get a lot of education actually on health it is,
you know, on how to really do that. But honestly, guys,

(32:15):
look up the healthy patch formula and i'sie and just
if you want a good back garden with loads of
greens on at a cheap price and pesticides organic free,
you know what I mean? Yeah, you just you won't
look back.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
That's good. Sounds like a good read. Just on what
Donna was saying though, on the whole foods. And this
is where I think it gets complex, is that we
are surrounded by ultra processed food. Now it is everywhere,
and it is for some people kind of hard to
determine the difference is this healthy? Is this full of crap?
How much sugar is in this salt all the rest
of it. It's confusing. Whereas ten, twenty, thirty, forty years ago,

(32:52):
we didn't have that same confusion. It was a lot
easier to find those whole foods. Most of us had
them in our pantries. Is not that hard tyler a
potato healthy? Yeah, potato chip not healthy? The oil, that's
that's the difference, you know.

Speaker 7 (33:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
But then I, for example, if I get those little
foods balls they call them, you know, those little chocolate balls,
and it's in the health aisle of the supermarket. Clearly
they are not health food. They are just full of
sugar and crap. And because I've got dates in them somehow.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
I mean that the whole health food market is rife
with scams. That was the other thing in the COVID
lockdown areas when the government was telling us not to
do our own research on our own health. That was
a weird message that came through. Because absolutely, in your
life you should take charge of your own health. But
also you should read up about it and become an
expert on it, because that is the whole thing that

(33:43):
is your life. You know, your life is determined in
the enjoyment of your life by your health. So you
should absolutely one hundred percent look into it.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
Libraries are free, Yeah, absolutely, Oh, eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty is the number to call. It is fourteen
to two.

Speaker 5 (33:59):
Have a chat with the lads on eight eighty eighty.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Matt and Taylor afternoons with the Volvo xc N eighty
ticking every box a seamless expweeds news talk sa'd.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Be afternoon twelve to two, and we're talking about personal
responsibility when it comes to our own health.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
You got this text from Paul here. I was a
beast from the age of three until I was sixty five.
I ended up with diabetes and heart disease. I spent
a lot of my life blaming everyone except myself. I
then took responsibility and pushed to have a gastric bypass.
I went from two hundred and twenty kg down to
one hundred and sixty kg and the public HOSPE will
help me to have a gastric bypass when I got
down to one sixty I'm now seventy three kg jeez,

(34:37):
with no diabetes, and my heart is now healthy. I
lost all that weight six years ago. I also now
walk over ten k and steps a day and exercise
for two hours every week at the gym. I'm now
sixty eight and fitted than I've ever been in my life. Unfortunately,
I now have stage four cancer. Oh God, sorry to
hear that, so have to get chemo and radiation treatment.
I'm sure that I'll beat it now, but I am healthy.

(34:57):
That's from Paul. I mean, yeah, that's that's a great story.
Thanks for during that, Paul. Yeah, and all the best
and with the cancer. So I'm sorry to hear that, mate.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
Yeah, thanks very much, Paul. Derek, what's your thoughts on this?

Speaker 15 (35:11):
I mean, right, so with heads shocking and or shocking
or advertising as far as alcohol goes, you know, like
family violence, car accidents, even drug is even smoking with her.
You know, pictures of someone's lungs, but I haven't really
seen it. When it comes to be an overweight or obese.
I had to explain to someone the other day, he's
rather large if he's back. When you're born, you know,

(35:32):
when you're a little scooter, you get this little motor,
and you know, and you get older, you become afford
all swoon car and you've still got this motor to
drive you. You you might even become an suv and
that mode will still do you. But if you want
to become a truck and trailer, you know, this a
little motor it's going to give up. It just can't
drive you. Sorry, I could. That's the only way I
could get through to them, you know, And he said, well, no,

(35:53):
actually explained it like that. I mean, we don't see
enough of what what's going to actually happen if you
continue to eat the way you are and advertising, I mean,
I know it's hard to sort of show that and
a lot of people won't take it. Well, it will
probably cause him to de pret But I mean, you go
into an old series of Top ten, do you look
into the crowd. There might be one out of every

(36:14):
thirty people that's overweight. No, it's just a progression thing
that's happened. I don't know, it's crazy, and now I
feel real sorry for the health system.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Yeah, when you know you say there's never been an AD,
I remember this, and Derek maybe you do, But there
was an ad.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
It's deep in my memory.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
I remember watching it at my grandmother's house and there's
a man sitting down and he's eating pipeleots, and his
grandma keeps handing on the pipelots and every time he
eats a pipelet, this heart and can anyone one hundred
and eighty ten eighty nine nine two can anyone remember
this ad? So it was basically an ad saying that
every pipelet you know, like overfeeding your your grandkids or

(36:52):
your grand or someone. I can't remember who was being fed,
but someone was being over feed in this PSA, this
public service and amount some ad. Do you remember that
at all, Derek Dereck.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
No, I mean I've got the message across the when
I started.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Let's you don't want to start a reminiscing.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
He hang up on me right, Oh, eight hundred eighty
ten eighty If you remember that ad and we'll try
and track it down, love to hear from you. But also,
whose responsibility is your own health? Does a government have
any responsibility or is it down to you and lifestyle choice.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
I think the government has some responsibility obviously, because you know,
we want to have that. They need to be a
backstop when things go wrong, when there's trauma in your life.
We don't want to just let people die. But just
morally across life, do we need to get the message
out there that your health is your responsibility? And if
the health service gets involved, then they get involved as
a partnership. They're not there to solve the problem. It's

(37:47):
a partnership.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
It is eight to.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Two Matteath Taylor Adams taking your calls on Oh, eight
hundred eighty ten eighty Matten Taylor afternoon with the Volvo
XC to eighty tick every box, a seamless experience awaits
news dogs end.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
Be it is five to two. Going to carry this
on after two o'clock because we've had so many people
who want to have a chat about this. But a
couple of texts to the news Tyler fruits and veggie's
are reasonable price in season, there are farmers markets and
frozen veggies are nutritious and cheap. People are lazy to

(38:25):
cook at themselves and buy good products at the right time.
They just need to learn this text. So, hey, guys,
are you right? Managing your health is down to you.
There is a system operating with some medical centers. You
sign up for how manage your health. It has an
app that shows all the scripts, allergies, medications, doctors, visits
and info from visit, vaccination as a hospital, appearances and stuff.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Very handy and informative about your health for you to
see and deal with. Maybe more people should have this. Yeah,
maybe there's.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
An interesting one ah, boy boy, where is this one gone?

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Yeah? Here it is. Is the health system so bad
because nobody is responsible? Or is that the health system itself?
Doesn't it? Why does it take so long to access
care by a specialist to the public health system? Is
this because the public are not responsible for their health?
I think not. Look how terrible the house system is run.
Many people are responsible, but get crap. Here that's from Sally. Yeah,

(39:18):
but I mean that's because the health system is clogged exactly.
I would say, yeah, I would say that you would
have it would be much easier to get specialist care
if there weren't so many pressures from people not taking
care of their own health.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
Yep, right, We're gonna carry this on. So oh eight
one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to
call love to hear your thoughts on whose responsibility is
your own health? New Sport and Weather on its way.
Great to have your company as always, you're listening to
Matt and Tyler with you until four p m. We'll
see you on the other.

Speaker 9 (39:47):
Side on the out of you know, stan Chunk on your.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
In the clouds.

Speaker 5 (39:56):
Yeah, there's no on you all afternoon.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons with the VOLVOSGZB.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
Good afternoon, welcome back into the show. So we had
such a great discussion last hour. We are going to
carry it on. But just before we do that, met
you're a very very happy boy at the moment, aren't you.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
It's little things in life, you know, and you've got
to celebrate the victories. I lost my swipe card to
get into the building, and I've just been hampered in
my life because there's fourth white. I think I've go forth.
I've have to swipe my way through four doors to
turn into this building. It's the my costing protection system
we've got here. Just stop stop fans getting into trying
to get his autograph from selfiast with them. So if

(40:57):
you don't have your card, it is very hard to
get around this building painful. It's very hard for me
to get into my park. So boy, oh boy, the
good people of ZIB have just sorted out.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
My card and it's got your little name on it
and everything. That's nice.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Mane at that. So now I'm now I'm available too.
I can go to the bathroom again.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
Life's good.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
I'm available to help people on all seven floors of
this building.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
Yeah, yeah, I'm free. Life is good.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
You've got to celebrate the winds people. And it was
worth losing my swiper.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
Just just for how good it feels to have it back.
And can we give a shout out to and she
solves everything in this building and Marie again, and Marie
to the rescue. Is there anything that woman can't do?

Speaker 2 (41:39):
She's absolutely the best of us.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
Keeping this place. Running right back to the discussion we're
having about personal responsibility when it comes to your house.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
That's responsibility when it comes to looking after your key swiper.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
That's next. Now we'll do that one tomorrow after one o'clock.
There's some great texts coming through. But just to row back,
it was on the back of an interview with Winston Peters.
That interview was meant to be about his trip to
the u WES, but the reporter, Audrey Young, focus on
something far more interesting, his longevity as a human being
in a politician. Yeah went that.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Way, didn't it. And you know we had we had
played some audio before of these two young people coming
up towards and Peters and going, how do you look
so good? You're eighty and you haven't changed in our lifetime.
How is he so healthy? And he says he says
that it's a lot to do with diet, and he
believes that we're not going to be able to change
our problems with the health system and the overrun health

(42:31):
system until people start taking care of themselves. As he said,
I think that diet is absolutely critical. And the reality is,
I don't think we can win this battle in terms
of our health system in this country unless there is
a massive dietary change. So that God asked asking the
question whose responsibility is your health? Is it up to
the health system to save you or is it up

(42:51):
to the individual to stay as healthy as they can
and not be a burden on the health system?

Speaker 16 (42:57):
You know?

Speaker 2 (42:57):
And if that is the case, what is the best
way to stay healthy? It's basically an ask, not what
your country can do for you, ask what you can
do for your country situation.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
There's some great teas coming through and this one, I
believe is a quote from was it one of the stoics.
Let food be your medicine, less medicine becomes your food.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
That's a quote from Wain.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
It says here, Oh, okay, Wayne, Well, I think that's
a far a guy way.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
That's just straight from Wain. This test says I suffer
from siasis. A tube of the only cream that works
will last me a year. They won't give me a
repeat presentation prescription despite using it for thirty plus years.
The doctors want to charge me to see them first.
This is why the health system is a mess. Unnecessary
doctors visits, clogged the system. That's from Steve. I mean,

(43:43):
there's no doubt there's efficiencies that could be brought into
the house system and we're looking at those. And there
are problems with the health system, there's no doubt. But
I believe that we are going to just keep piling
more and more and more and more and more money
into a bottomless pit of health until people start taking
care of themselves. And I was saying before that the

(44:04):
push should be that something like you know what was
I saying before? That your health is responsible, your responsibility,
and your kid's health is your responsibility. That should be
the message coming up from the government. The health system
is in partnership with you.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
Yeah, News Talk said b It is ten past two.
Let's go to the phone lines. Jane, how are you
this afternoon? Hey?

Speaker 17 (44:31):
There.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
How are you and what's your thought about your own
personal health and government intervention or what the government can
do to help you look after yourself. Where do you
sit on this debate, Joe, I'm very grateful.

Speaker 18 (44:46):
I agree with one some peters that you have to
look after your body was healthy, eating healthy fruits and
vegetables and make your own bread. Probably, but yes, that's
very very important, so I've give them that award. I'm

(45:06):
also very happy and grateful to the government for helping
me want my health because I had holistic problems in
the past, and I believe the government has helped me
overcome them. Was looking after my physical, mental, emotional, and

(45:29):
psychological well been.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
What was your problem Jane that you said before, I
didn't quite hear hear what it was you had problem
with what I had.

Speaker 18 (45:38):
Been afflicted by an enemy so and I don't want
to go into it, but I was affected by it,
which caused a lot of commulsion with my family and friends,

(45:58):
and it led me to mental health. But I have
come right and I have been dune thosed with mood
effective disorder, and I have been studying and nearly finished

(46:19):
psychology degree. You've got two more papers to go, but
I have had a lot of interruptions in a thirty
year period as well as working part times.

Speaker 14 (46:33):
Ye.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
So what you're saying is that what you're saying is
that you agree that there is certain responsibility for your
own health as Winston Peters are saying there and diet,
but also that the that the health system was there
for you when you when you need it, needed it
when things outside of your control affected you say.

Speaker 18 (46:53):
And I have taken on board to look after myself
and also to pray and thank the lawd Almighty for
his help in my life. And I have been very
strong throughout or that has happened from this matacos that

(47:14):
was put on by an animete.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
But let's not going to us Okay, let's not go
into it. But that sounds interesting, Jane, And I'm glad
that you're dealing with that, but in partnership with the
New Zealand health system.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
Yeah, it sounds like you were somewhat independent and healthy, Jane.
So that is good news. A couple of tigs here,
guys for example, saw there his check weight, lose weight,
check that they are wearing good shoes. Patients often don't
listen or it's not their fault. So that is somewhat
government intervention, right. If they've got bad knees, make sure

(47:50):
that they've got good shoes, make sure that they're not
too overweight. I mean again, and I know I was
the one saying I think the government have some levers
to pull here to push people in the right direction.
But giving them good shoes at hospital I don't think
would be part of that.

Speaker 7 (48:06):
Well.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
I mean, it's a hard thing to say to someone
that come through with sore knees and then you say, well,
your knees are sore because you're putting an incredible strain
on them with your with your weight. So everything will
get easier if you sort out your diet. But that's
really the message that someone needs because you know they can.
They can rebuild your knees.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
They certainly can.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
They can do a lot with your knees, but that
isn't the root cause necessarily of your knee problem.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
Yeah, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
I will take more of your calls very shortly. It
is fourteen past two.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
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Afternoon with the Volvo XC ninety turn every journey into
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Speaker 3 (48:51):
Said, be afternoon, it is seventeen past two, and we're
talking about our overloaded health system and personal responsibility when
it comes to your own health on the back of
Winston Peters. And it was a good, good interview and
some good quotes from him about he looks after himself
through diet. He has been since the eighties when he
saw some of his colleagues and the buttons on his

(49:13):
shirt start to pop out and stretch a bit too much,
and he said, not for me.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
He's munching on fish heads. What he says, three, Yeah,
you get on the fish heads, he says. And look
the elephant in the room when you're talking about Winston Peters.
And obviously he's a very sharp eight year old looking fantastic. Absolutely,
but he has also enjoyed the odd duney blue yep,
enjoyed the odd whiskey in the own wine in this time.

(49:39):
Isn't he as well?

Speaker 3 (49:39):
Yeah? So it's quite a specimen.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
He is a specimen. He's got great genetics in his family.
I believe his mother lived in ninety six and he's
got nine siblings that are in their eighties right now.

Speaker 6 (49:48):
Ye.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
Impressive.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
You know, great genetics like Winston Peters has is obviously
handy as well. But we're really asking whose responsibility is
your health?

Speaker 5 (49:59):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Is it yours or is it the government's.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
Yep, some great teachs coming through, Hi guys on the
subject of health. I got told by my doctor I
was on the top end of being morbidly obese. So
I don't eat takeaways. I have yogurt for breakfast and
only two coffees a day that is all from Brian.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
Yeah, so the coffees, I don't know that coffees were
I mean, if I guess if you're having like a
humil outing flat white, which is basically like a baby's
milk drink, then that's a little frothythy. That's sort of
why we call them flat whites, their lates. That maybe
that's maybe the.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
It's a few calories, it's milk for you.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
Milk's good for you. That's protein. Yeah, yeah, milk's good
for you. Country going I think I think coffees are good.
But this is one of those things, you know. I
just saw an article today saying eggs are bad for
you now, yeah again, and now.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
They're having to go at protein.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
There was some article I will never believe, no matter
what anyone says that eggs are bad for you, eggs, milk,
all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
Get it.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Whole foods, well, milk's yeah, whole foods. All right, Yeah, Tony,
your your thoughts on on on the health of the nation.

Speaker 9 (51:05):
Oh yeah, alright, guys. I think some of the responsibility
needs to be put onto some of the producers that
make stuff that we consume. You take your Red Bulls
and your V's and stuff like that. We all know
the amount of sugar and everything else. I don't know
what else is in them, but that in the long

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term is going to create a hell of a lot
of issues for the health system. And maybe the government
needs to somehow tax these companies that crack this stuff,
and these companies must know what they're creating to put
a tax on it so that down the track that

(51:49):
money is put aside for the health system, because the
health systems the last last step really for people. So basically,
you've got your producers that make the stuff. You've got
us the consumer that eats it, drinks at whatever. Some
of us know what we're doing. Some of us don't
realize what's happening, and so of us and then we

(52:10):
end up going to the health system to try and
fix our issues.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
So yeah, I mean, I'll tell you what one thing's
for sure. If Red Bull have dropped Liam Lawson and
I'll be boycotting Red.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
Bill take it off the sheofs New Zealands. Yeah, still
to come on that.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
That's an interesting thing, Tony. That's that there are food manufacturers.
So you're in the business of making food and you no, no, no,
I'm saying. I'm just going to imagine you're in the
business of making food and the food that you produce,
you know, is bad for people. So your day and
day out job is producing food that's cereble for people.
That would be I don't know, you know, there's a

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little bit of a moral quandry there. I mean, ideally,
you want to be in the business of making food
that makes people's lives better and nourishes people and makes
them more happy and gives them the energy they need
to go off and achieve. But so much of the
food industry, as you know, you look at Musley bars,
that people and that this is things like music bars
really bug me because they appear to be healthy as

(53:10):
far as you're concerned. You're having you're given your kid
a musley bar because you think it's healthy, and it
isn't that they bulk it up with sugar because sugar
is so cheap these days, and so what is so
a parent might be doing the exact right thing. They go,
oh my kid lunch, here we go, here's a music bar.
They're basically giving them a big pile of sugar, and
that kind of stuff bugs me.

Speaker 9 (53:30):
Tony, Well, something I noticed, like I followed Motor GP
and you watch the riders and they all hold their
cans of whatever the sponsor is. And after one of
the races this year, the three guys that went onto
the podium, they're in a back room and they were
talking to themselves, waiting, talking between themselves, waiting before they

(53:50):
went onto the podium to get their rewards. And they
had their cans there, and they were filling their cans
up out of bottles that were clear, that had no
markings them. So that for me is sort of telling
me that they're not actually drinking their product.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
I mean, who was the foot and got into a
lot of crap the Coca Cola was the big sponsor,
and he moved the bottle of Coca Cola away. And
I think, to paraphrase them, was I don't drink that rubbish.
That stuff is bad for your drink water kids, not
Coca Cola.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
But come on, there's nothing wrong with Coca cola no
sugar though, right.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
That stuff's good.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
Yeah, I'm on the Cocola no sugar now it's tasty. Yeah,
But yeah, I mean you need to you know. And
as I was saying to someone before, I actually even
dumber than what I said to someone before. I thought
Fanta was better for you than than coke because it
had oranges.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
You said it it's all color. Yeah, I think, yeah,
thank you very.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
Much, cool Tony. And I mean, I guess one thing
if you do. I think there are temptations everywhere, though
to a certain extent, we have to acknowledge that you
can't kind of save people from themselves. You can help,
you can try, and you can lead them in the
right direction, but people ultimately have to save save themselves.
So that's why I'm pushing for some kind of moral

(55:07):
change in the way that we see things that we
take on board individually from a young age that our
health is our own responsibility, and then when we have
children that our children's health is our own response responsibility.
And the Health Service is just a partner on the
way if we need them.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
But just on your music BA thing and I agree.
But these health Stars, and to me, the health Stars,
they should be easy and straightforward. If you see four
or five stars, you know, buy and large, that's going
to be okay for you. But it's not the case.
It's nonsense. So I think if there are, if they're
going to do things like the Health Star, just do
it freaking properly. If you're going to try and give

(55:42):
people shortcuts to do the right thing, do it properly.
And I don't know why it's so hard just to
you know, figure it out. Okat's got sugar and salt
in it, and clearly if you give your kid one
of these per day, that's not going to be good
in the long run. That is a treat. But they
put five stars on it and it makes no sense.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
Yeah, although I would say, as I said to you before,
potato healthy, yep, potato chips not healthy. That's you to
take that logic to everything when you're eating potatoes, healthy
potato chips, not.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
Healthy potato pretty tasty potato chips super tasty.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
There lies the problem.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
Eighty is the number to cool. It's twenty five past two.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
Matd Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty on us talk, SENDB good afternoon.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
It's twenty seven past two.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Text to Deb says, Hey, guys, I believe you have
to do everything possible to take care of your personal health.
But a lot of people do not even know the
simple stuff. For example, how extremely essential is it to
keep vitamin D levels up? Should be taking for four
thousand units to six thousand years a day, simple but
enormously effective. Debs. Yeah, vitamin D yeah, get it in you.

Speaker 19 (57:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
I mean I'm one of those muppets though that I've
got this huge I'm over vitamining. I can see that
over vitamining. So every day and I get laughed at
by my kids. Yes, I bring the big tub down
of all my different gummy Bear vitamins. You know, I've
got the I've got the fish oil one.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
I hear you coming in here, you like America.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Yeah, I've got you know, I've got the creatine. You
know I've got I've got the protein powder. I'm just
I'm just slamming all kinds of things. I'm over vitamining, creating, vitamining, vitamining,
over vitaminin. Do you say vitaminal, vitamin vitamin? I say
vitamin From now on, I knew you would. Yeah, eighty

(57:46):
eighty as the number to call. Jimmy, how are you?

Speaker 7 (57:50):
Hell?

Speaker 20 (57:50):
Yeah, I'm good. It's scummy boy. Listen, it's been a while.
I'm a bit nervous, but I agree with Maddy as
far as milk eggs, fantastic. And you've got to look
at Winston Peters but pretty good for his age. I mean,
he's done so well. And the one thing you forgot
to tell you the proteins and the fish, it's it's

(58:14):
in the heads, but it's actually in the eyes too.
They I know it sounds weird, but I think it
comes down to the individual. You know, you've got choices.
I know some people are overweighting this and that, but mate,
you've got look. I used to have jet black hair.

(58:35):
Now I've got beautiful silver hair, seventy one years old
coming up, and I feel fantastic, and Maddie you were saying,
I bet your olive skin. I've got it to you, mate.
I'm European, but most of them think I'm bloody moldy,
which I'm proud of. But everything comes down to a
choice Eitherie, you take it in moderation, you know what

(58:57):
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
Yeah, absolutely, And you know that when it comes to
the fish eyes in Fiji. Unless someone was trucking me
when I was staying at this resort and they served me,
they said that the fish eyes are considered an absolute
treat in Fijian culture, and so yeah it.

Speaker 20 (59:15):
Is, Maddy. I tell you the proteins in the look.
I eat a lot of fish, eat a lot of
red meat.

Speaker 7 (59:24):
I ate a lot of.

Speaker 20 (59:24):
Chicken, I ate a lot of rice. And I'm grateful
for what I've got, you know, and the way I
look and I am. Some people call me vain, but
I don't give a damn.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
A picture of you. Now, Jimmy, can you fire one
through a lot?

Speaker 20 (59:41):
Mate, I'm dyslexic. It takes me my time to figure
out how to get hold of you buggers, you.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Know, But well you describe it. You've got beautiful, You've
got beautiful.

Speaker 3 (59:50):
I've ever spoken, Well, you're a silver fox. You've got
all of silver fox with beautiful olive skin.

Speaker 20 (59:56):
That's what we're getting for Scotland, right Maddy, I was
born and scott My mum's Irish, my dad's a gladswegient.
I came here when I was three years old. Best
thing that ever happened. And I on you what you know?
This country to me is giving me everything, you know,
the friends, the people, my son, my children, my grandchildren,

(01:00:19):
and I'm so grateful. How can I like I always
go take care guys. You do a damn bloody good job.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Jimmy, you're a great New Zealander and that kind of positivity. Actually,
I think you know, diet.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
Is a really important thing in your life as well.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
But having some gratitude like Jimmy has, yeah, that is
good for the health. Get home fronting the scamp lowers
the quartersol levels. If you can just find gratitude in
your life rather than walking around being angry at everyone
and everything, look around and go it ain't it ain't
too bad.

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Now back to Matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
Thank you very much, ray Lean, And we're talking about
personal responsibility when it comes to your own health and diets.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Yeah, that's right. Is it your responsibility or is it
the government's responsibility to keep you healthy? Because I believe
if we don't take responsibility for our health, then we're
just going to keep piling more and more and more
and more into our health system, and we're going to
get sicker and sicker and sicker and sicker. So we'll
get poorer and sicker. Although supplements you're taking, Matt, you
are causing yourself problems to many synthetics, nasty supplements, see

(01:02:47):
a professional. Yeah, I'm getting hammered in the text because I.

Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
Punish a lot of vitamins in the mornings. I've got
your Vitamin D, You've got your creatine.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
Yeah, I've got fish oil, I've got your Men's multi Yeah,
fish capsules magnesium. Ye, and then I'm pounding protein powder. Yeah.
I know it's yeah, I know it's wrong, but I
can't stop. I'm addicted to vitamins.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
You've seen there, Brian Johnson. Guy, he's on a mission
to live as long as he can. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it's an incredible story. He's a unique individual. But
that's what I think of when I think, are you
just smashing back all of these pills in your protein shakes.
I'm gonna live forever.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Looking for the looking for the shortcut, the elixir of life. Yeah,
it's the holy grail. That that bucket on top of
my fridge with all my vitamins and it it's actually
the holy grail that everyone's been looking for. Hey, you
had a caller called Donna on before about two pm.
She said she didn't want to be on statins and
was sticking to a diet that was in a book.
Are you able to provide the name of the book?
She mentioned a gain please, that's from Bruce. What was

(01:03:49):
it called? Was it called the I Believe the Cholesterol Myth?

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
Yeah? The Great Cholesterol Myth.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
If someone can remember ninet two nine two, we can
go back and look at the record of it, but
I think it was called that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
Yeah, and Donna, if you're still listening, if you can
just send us a text nine two nine two, but oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is and number to
call and love to hear from you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
So welcome to the show.

Speaker 21 (01:04:10):
Hello, how are you very very good?

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Better since you have called too?

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
Yeah, these are charmer is an issue?

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
Yeah, now that became awkward really quickly. But sue your thoughts.

Speaker 22 (01:04:22):
About people about people's house, it is their responsibility and
it's not the government's responsibility. I don't believe to tax
sugar and everything. And people need to stop buying the
red ball or all the things that make them obese
or morbidly obese or whatever and take some ownership of
it and eat healthily. What's wrong with porridge for breakfast

(01:04:47):
and you know things like that.

Speaker 23 (01:04:49):
They don't have to.

Speaker 22 (01:04:50):
Go and eat all the fatty process stuff. But they
say they are time poor. But I'm over sixty five,
so I'm a little bit of the old fashioned way
of doing things now.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
So when you say porridge for breakfast, because when I
was a kid growing up in Dunedin, my dad would
make me porridge for breakfast every morning. But it was
absolutely lad in brown sugar and it was so delicious.

Speaker 22 (01:05:15):
Well it is, yes, I mean you can put whatever
you like on it, but these days you talk about
yogurt and fruits and all sorts of stuff. But people
have to get back to some basics and make some
choices instead of saying, oh, the coach's cheap or whatever.
Actually water is cheap out of the tap. All of
these things, and you know, and they've got to know

(01:05:38):
how to cook as well. And I think if you're
going to put money into something, you teach them that
at school. Teach them all of that in the education system.

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
Very good.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
I mean that should be that. You know, often think
about that in terms of the primary and intermediate and.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
They do a bit of it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
But really the most two of the most important things
that you can be taught is how to deal with
money and how to deal with your health.

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
Definitely that takes a far in life. But just on
to your point about the porridge, I mean that's the
tricky part, right. It's same with wheatbis at least you
had a thick crust of white sugar on top of
your wheat pecks. You couldn't stomach it as a kid.
So is that healthy? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
I think the most delicious thing I've ever drunk drunk
in my life was the milk with the brown sugar
at the end of the porridge. It was just so good,
steaming hot porridge and then you get the brown sugar milk.
But we were pretty healthy. Yeah, yeah, I mean I
was so skinny that I used to wear two jewsey
used to school, so you know, you know, stopped me
getting into so many fights.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
So it looked tougher.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
So I certainly wasn't certainly wasn't fattening me up when
I was a kid. And also what SUSI is that's
also from my dad's school of food. When you ask
for a drink, he would always say, there's plenty of
water in the tap. It's always the answer, Yeah I drink, Dad,
plenty of water. And the other thing that he used
to always say, good advice. You say, Cole, can I

(01:06:57):
turn on the heater? He goes, no, put on a jersey.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
Good advice.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
Three, no nonsense, porridge, plenty of water in the tap,
and put on a jersey.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
He's a good man, you're dad.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
Oh eight hundred eighty and eighty is the number to
call in Donnahe's t expect just quickly before we go
to Kevin. Hey, guys, it was called the Great Cholesterol Myth.
Sorry I can't remember the name of the author, but
we'll have a look when I get home.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
The Great calyisterol Myth. There you go, Kevin, Welcome to
your Welcome to the show. You want to talk about
the UK approach.

Speaker 8 (01:07:31):
It wasn't.

Speaker 24 (01:07:31):
It's just a report I read just recently about the
It was just a report that came up as the
press in the UK, and it was about the fact
that if you once you are more videobese, or if
you're carrying too much fat, that's where the toxins from
all as the processed food gets broken down, that's all
the nit rates and the sugar and the salts and everything.

(01:07:53):
It ends up as toxins in stored in the fact,
because fat is brilliant. It's his storage, it's your body
storage system.

Speaker 3 (01:07:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (01:07:59):
And when you then that then leads on to further
problems such as other cancers and things like that. So
you you are more likely to so for later from
things as well as bad heart you know, issues with
your heart.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
That's kind of a terrifying concept, doesn't it That you're
you know, not only the problems that you get from obesity,
but also what is in your fat stores as toxic
to your body. That's quite a terrifying way to look
at it.

Speaker 24 (01:08:29):
And it's once you realize and you think, oh, this
is you know what's going to get me? And you
know everyone's trying to be as healthy as possible, or
you're think they're trying to be as self as possible.
But the other thing I disagree with is and I
come from a background of if something is wrong, you
get told it's wrong. And this thing about pandy pandering,
and it was something that's ingrained in me a long

(01:08:51):
time ago. For a friend of mine who's a doctor,
when you qualified as a doctor at university together, he
sent out three He gave always mates their own prescription,
which was a bit naughty because he just wrote it out.
It's quite a fun thing to do, even though it's
a control of documents. He wrote to the guy who's Jason,
who is a prop, but he would have been a
lot better prop because he was carrying a bit too

(01:09:11):
much weight and he was he was actually be able
to get up a bit faster and up on the
ball if he The three things he wrote to him
was stop smoking, stopped drinking so much, and stop being
so much KFC. And he wrote that, and he wrote,
he wrote and mocked all of us things that he
thought were going wrong in our life. It was quite funny.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
And he did on a prescription pad.

Speaker 24 (01:09:36):
He did on a prescription we had. And then when
he got called in, he got called in, where all.

Speaker 8 (01:09:40):
These prescriptions gone?

Speaker 24 (01:09:42):
And he said, oh, he did it officially, so he
used to scribe off so he couldn't add anything like
any fun.

Speaker 8 (01:09:47):
Drugs to it and take it in and use it.

Speaker 24 (01:09:49):
But he did say I did. Someone did have a
word with me because it was all written out of handwrite,
handwritten in those days, and it was just but he
was quite straightforward saying, if you if you've got this
was in a culture at the moment you can't tell people,
oh you you know, I'm not saying fact shaming, but
some people do need to be told you need to
lose this weight or it's at the moment we've got

(01:10:11):
no real way of measuring. In the health system, they
can get accurate measures what contributes or overweight, How overweight.

Speaker 8 (01:10:19):
Costs, how much it costs.

Speaker 24 (01:10:20):
But there are some estimates from fifteen up to sixty
percent of all your issues with the health system, which
is way overburdened, it could be down to bad diet
and your mental health improves. Have you got a good diet,
your your body, your sex life improves, You've got a
decent diet. Yeah, that's the ultimate driving for is it
driving thing?

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
Yeah? And ultimately and probably for the person that you're
you're sharing your sex life worth would probably enjoyed a
bit more as well.

Speaker 24 (01:10:52):
And by the way, it was Ronaldo who moved the bottle,
and you know he was pretty good and he's not.
His career is coming to an end, but he's still,
you know, making millions from kicking a leather ball or a.

Speaker 8 (01:11:05):
Plastic ball around.

Speaker 24 (01:11:06):
Yes, yeah, you know, you know he doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
I think there's a deeper meaning given and what your
friend did with that prescription, because you could surprise you know,
I'm seeing a deeper meaning there given. So you could subscribe,
you know, drugs to save someone you know, or some
kind of medicine. But what he's actually prescribing is improvements
in your life, which which is kind of the the
ultimate prescription. Really, yeah, you know. And and my question

(01:11:31):
is for your prop, did he stop drinking so much?
Did he did he cut back on the jog food?

Speaker 24 (01:11:37):
Well, we all sort of separate after I saw him
a couple of times, and he had improved because he
got a decent job where he he needed to be
cutting around the country quite a bit, and he was.
He was actually and as a salesman he just took
he lost the heap away and he actually did look
like a proper rugged prop And he you know, used

(01:12:00):
to carry himself quite well in his brilliant salesman because
people just look up to him and go, yeah, I
can deal with this guy. He's you know, handsome bloke
coming in you know. So it was, but that was
in the days when people everyone gets offended. If you
say I'll be the best, you know, they're going okay.

Speaker 25 (01:12:15):
If it's there.

Speaker 24 (01:12:16):
Seems to be a lot, there seems to be a
few personalities. You said, oh, this is just me. Accept
me as I am. That's fine, but we are the
society does still judge you. And if someone's going to
paying for your your bad choices in the future, we're
going to say well, actually you're not really helping yourself
towards being a better you.

Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
Yeah, I mean, you know, goes back to what I
was saying before. You know, not not what your country
can do for you, ask what you can do for
you for your country. Great like that could be the
motivation to doing it. Someone his is Maddy. Nothing wrong
with the layer of brown sugar on your porridge. It's
when you add the cream bun for mourning, tea pie
for lunch, and bottle of coke with the pegget of
eminehmits for afternoon, or watch down with a succulent Chinese

(01:12:59):
meal for dinner. Do things actually fall off the rail? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:13:04):
Yeah, yeah, good point.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
A bit of a sprinkle of brown sugar on your
on your porridge in the morning's thing?

Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
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Good guys.

Speaker 26 (01:13:33):
I think it's as you say this personal responsibility for
your health. But also I think the government should be
able to step in and turn around to tell anyone
that manufactures food or anything that they bought a sugar
content and if they cut it in half over within
two years, our palettes would just then it doesn't have
to be a sugar tax. So that's just another ruddy

(01:13:54):
charge in our pockets. But if everything was slowly cut down,
our our palettes that adjust back to what it was.
But now they've bought sugar and everything. Even your smartest
sauces stack with sugar at tracks so attracts you more
to it, and all the kid's soft drinks and all
the rest of it. The amount of sugar they stick
in is unbelievable, and that's just gets you hooked.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
Yeah, I know exactly what you're saying there, Chris, because
I used to have two teaspoons of sugar in my
coffee and in my tea, yep, And that just seemed normal.
And then I got rid of it. And now if
I get a tea or a coffee with sugar, and
it tastes crazy sweet, and I've got a lot of
most of the sugar out of my life. I even
eat an apple now, so I'll bite into an apple

(01:14:37):
and it tastes so sweet, it's like a lolly. So
you can definitely you had seen right, Chris, You can
definitely recalibrate your taste.

Speaker 7 (01:14:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 26 (01:14:46):
The government should be able to force it because they
are the ones that pick up the hospital bill at
the end, and they can stop some of these people
shoving all this crap down their throats, airs and the
sugar content.

Speaker 9 (01:14:55):
That attracts it.

Speaker 26 (01:14:57):
They can put sugar in KFC and stuff. It's all got,
it's all in a tract and just to sort of
hock you into it and drag you, drag you into
the system.

Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
Yeah, would you give lee way too? So we're talking
about big food manufacturers here, Chris, obviously, would you give
lee way too? You know, market still operators that sort
of thing. Leave them out of it.

Speaker 26 (01:15:19):
No, just legislator right across the board that takes out
everyone that produces anything that they throw sugar in. If
you're not harped at within two years, will prosecute you.
And if they're the big players, nail them. They're the
smaller players, nail them and still nail them real hard
because all they're doing is stuff in up people's lives.

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
It is interesting that the message on sugar is slightly
you know, getting through, although, as this Texas says, you
know your listeners are relatively well educated. The problem is
uneducated people who don't know these rules and are still
slamming the sugar. But you know you've got to look
for At Coca Cola, for example, the sales of their
no sugar products are skyrocketing, while there are you know,
their their full full fat version, their full sugar version

(01:15:59):
is coming down. So the messages getting through, Chris, although
seem to be representing that.

Speaker 26 (01:16:08):
Is that stuff that they're putting in the no sugar
stuff or the zero sugar where they add the South
of stuff, the other sweetness. Some of those sweetness real
de more than what their original sugar was.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
I listened to this this full podcast. If you listened
to the Hubman podcast at all, Chris, No, No, it's
a you know, it's a doctor called a doctor Huberman. Anyway,
he investigates in house things, needed a big investigation into
the no sugar products, and he came back that they
are fine. You know, you'd be better to drink water,

(01:16:44):
but they're so significantly better than drinking the full sugar
versions of it that he ultimately came to the conclusion
that they are a good thing.

Speaker 26 (01:16:55):
Anything's better than what they're doing to us anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
Yeah, Chris, good on you, mate, Thanks you, cal Thank
you very much. Right, it is eight minutes to three.
Will take another couple of calls when we come back.
And the text number nine, two numbers, ZER, one hundred
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Be five to three has been a great discussion. A
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Speaker 5 (01:17:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
So the book that Donna was talking about, a few
people have been texting through asking for the name of
the book and the authors. So we got right that
it's the Great Cholesterol Myth. It's by Johnny Bowden, PhD
and Stephen Sinatra, MD.

Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
It's from Donna.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
Thanks thanks for that. A lot of interest in their book,
and there is a lot of talk about whether Staton's
are the best way for the rest of your life, yeah,
or whether it statistically makes a reasonable difference to make
it worth it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:53):
And just rowing back to your situation. You went to
the doctor, you said, the doctor said Staddins might be
for you, and I laid you do something about it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
I said, you listened to me, buddy, I'm going to
run five k day for six months and I'm going
to come back to you. Doctor Kelly that was his name, yep,
And let's see. And so I did when I came back,
and my cholesterol was sweet as yeah, very stick. That
up is doctor Kelly's great man.

Speaker 3 (01:18:14):
He's a great man.

Speaker 17 (01:18:14):
Doctor Gillen.

Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
Guys, green milk is more sugar than blue milk. Just
a thought I would add, I don't know that, is it?

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:18:21):
Yeah, we have green milk because we think it's the
healthy option. Therein lies the problem.

Speaker 5 (01:18:25):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
I think I'm pretty well educated on when it comes
to nutrition, but clearly.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
Not well anyway. There's nothing that's changed my mind in
the in the chat that the message for people from
a young age should be that your health is your responsibility,
and when you have children, their health is your responsibility,
and the health system that's a partnership. They're your partners
and your health they're not there. They're not there to
save the problem. And if we keep believing they are,
we're going to spend more and more and more in

(01:18:50):
money and we're going to get worse and worse outcomes.

Speaker 3 (01:18:52):
Yeah, come on, New Zealand's right coming up after three o'clock.
We want to chat to you about Liam Lawson. How
do you feel about the noise surrounding what is going
on with them? And we will say that they just
reports at the stage. Yeah, absolutely, Oh Wright, Oh, eight
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Just a reminder and about twenty five minutes we're gonna
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Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
Always ples, so get it now. But right now, let's
have a chat about this. Key we driver Liam Lawson
has reportedly been dropped by the Red Bull Formula One
team just two races into the twenty twenty five season.
Dutch newspaper The Telegraph is report by multiple sources that
he will be replaced by Yuki Sonoda. So to have
a chat about this, dirty.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
Dutch everyone involved, So yeah, sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:20:17):
To have a chat about this. We've brought in New
Zealand Herald sports reporter Alex Powell. Get a Alex, so
where are we at with this?

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
So?

Speaker 3 (01:20:25):
How how confirmed is this?

Speaker 25 (01:20:27):
It's a bit waite and see at the moment, obviously
being the middle of the night for Europe, it's going
to be a bit of a see what happens. Yeah, look,
it's it's been a bit of a weird day having
come into this. I was I'm planning on doing something
completely different today, but like every indication is that this
might actually be true and what's happening?

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
So if the reports are true. When do we expect
to have that confirmed?

Speaker 25 (01:20:52):
Well, I mean they're going to have to do it
pretty quick because there's a race the weekend after this one.
So if they're going to go to Japan and there's
just two drivers and two different cars than what we
had in China, then it'll be a bit of a
few questions asked. If it comes by the end of
the week. I would not be surprised.

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
What's the rationality about this? Because he said two races
and everyone knows the problems of driving, and it was
Steppen's cart, right. Everyone knows that it's calibrated for him,
it's set up for him, and no one can control
the beast, right, So replacing them is not going to
solve that problem.

Speaker 20 (01:21:24):
No.

Speaker 25 (01:21:24):
I mean there's two sort of ways you can look
at it. One is competitively. We've seen already the season
McLaren have two cars that can score points, Ferrari have
two cars that can score points, and Mercedes now two
cars that can score points. If red Bull want to
actually fight and win this world title, they're going to
need two and Liam might just not be the guy
for right now, he's only got I think it's now

(01:21:45):
what thirteen fourteen races worth of experience.

Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
That's just not enough.

Speaker 25 (01:21:48):
It's thirteen. So giving it to Sonoda, who's been there
for four years, admittedly with the junior team, which is
a very different setup, might be a little bit of
a safer option and also just to take Liam Lawson
out of the firing line.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
Yeah right, And so this isn't just going to be
if it happens, you don't see it as being just
a one off for the hometown guy to be racing.

Speaker 25 (01:22:07):
No, that would be such a disruption for both drivers.
I mean, Yuki Synod would love it because you know
it's the team he wants to be driving for it
his home track. Then he knows very well everyone's going
to be there cheering for him anyway. They're probably going
to be decked out in Red Bull kit now rather
than racing Bulls kit.

Speaker 2 (01:22:22):
So do we if this happens, do we as a
nation stop drinking Red Bull and go back to key
we owned V and start having the V in vodkas.

Speaker 25 (01:22:34):
I mean that's up to the individual. I guess no, Look,
I wouldn't if Red Bull do do this. Yeah, I
imagine they will still support Liam Lawson admittedly in a
different team, but they've invested millions into it. There was
options for Liam to leave Red Bull last year when
Audi were interested in them and Williams were interested in them,

(01:22:55):
and Red Bull said no, he's our guy. To walk
away from that after two years of two races rather
would be huge, like even by Red Bull standards, and
they are rootless with drivers. You know, Liam would now
be the fourth teammate to fall by the way side
of Max Stappen. But to give up on that now,
I just don't understand why they would get rid of
them all together, if not just move them sideways for

(01:23:15):
a bit and let them learn the ropes get settled.

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
So you're saying that there would there could potentially be
a part back. I would want there to be.

Speaker 25 (01:23:23):
However, none of the drivers who have been dropped before
I have ever come back. Even Pierre Gazly went from
Red Bull back to what was then Alpha Tower is
now Racing Balls, won a race and then there was
still vacancies and couldn't.

Speaker 3 (01:23:35):
Get a look at.

Speaker 2 (01:23:36):
So what are the KPIs basically to get back?

Speaker 25 (01:23:38):
I mean score points, you know, if that score points
proved to be sort of the best of the rest
outside of the big four teams.

Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
Because the Red Bull Racing car seemed to be going
quite well.

Speaker 25 (01:23:47):
And you mean the racing balls cast racing, But I
mean is that a sign that they're doing well or
is that a sign of how far back Red Bull
actually are that even the step and saying this isn't
good enough, we need to actually work on this because
the sister team it's supposed to be for Juinior driders
shouldn't be as close to them as they are.

Speaker 3 (01:24:02):
What does that do for Red Bull as a brand though,
as racing with Christian Horner and Helmet Marco and all
the rest of them. When they ditched these drivers and
if these reports are true after two races, does that
not impact them as a racing brand and as a.

Speaker 25 (01:24:16):
Team if they wouldn't races off the back of it,
then no, I mean, like we say, this is not
this is I'm pressing it to go after two races,
But to get rid of a driver is not a surprise.
They have had quite a good record with it. When
they dropped Alex album for Sergio Peris, they won what
three constructors titles and four drivers titles off the back
of it. So whether or not, it will pay off
immediately this season.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
Who knows well? Would you stick around Alex O eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty nine nine two. If you
want to send a text, if you've got any questions
on this, anything you want to say about Liam Lawson
in this situation, then yeah, gives a ring, sent its
text and we'll put the questions to Alex absolutely oh
eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. And as you mentioned, Matt nine two nine too,

(01:24:58):
if you want to send a text message.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
It is twelve past three, back three shortly. You're listening
to Matt and Tyler. Good afternoon to you. Afternoon. It's
a quarter past three and we are talking about Liam
Lawson and we've got in studio with US New Zealand
heeral sports reporter Alex Powell. Thanks for hanging with us, Alex.

Speaker 25 (01:25:18):
No problem, Thanks for havings.

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
We've got a whole lot of questions coming through on
nine two nine two. So the story went that Sonoda
was joined at the hit with Honda and Red Bull
are leaving Honda. Has any of that changed.

Speaker 25 (01:25:30):
Nope, Honda and Red Bull will part ways at the
end of the season, Honda instead go to Aston, Martin
and Ford come in to Red Bull. I mean, look,
if you're Yuki Sonoda, you go on to Red Bull
and you start performing, getting podiums, winning races, then they're
obviously going to keep him on regardless of who is
backer is.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
Yeah, do you think there's any chance of that? Do
you think he's just going to have the same problems
as Awso?

Speaker 25 (01:25:49):
I would like to think he'd probably have the same
problems as Lowto, but that's just me being a biased Kiwi.

Speaker 3 (01:25:53):
Yeah, this is a good teach here. Everyone is talking
about the driver's being dropped. Let's discuss the car. Max
has seid himself. He's not getting the best out of
the car. He is struggling. Perhaps it's the car that's
the problem, not the driver. Thoughts Absolutely, Yeah, that's that's
so clear.

Speaker 25 (01:26:06):
Like I was on Kerry whim Show this morning and said,
lightning doesn't strike four times, you don't get Pierre Gasley
struggles at Red Bull and succeeds elsewhere, Alex Albon struggles
at Red Bull and succeeds elsewhere. Sergio Peri's struggled at
Red Bull, had performed well elsewhere and might get another
chance to do the same again. So look, that's very
clearly not a driver issue. Max Verstappen is for me
the best driver, but we'd probably have seen he's up

(01:26:26):
there with Schumacher and Hamilton for me, but even he's
struggling to get around the track at the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:26:31):
Yeah, so the sticks says this, how do you say,
how do you respond to this? James? I doubt the
rumors are true. Lawson raced in the Super Formula Series,
which involved a fair amount of time at the Suzuki
track in Japan. It's possible he may have some speed there,
so I reckon he will still be there in Japan.
How robust are are these these these rumors?

Speaker 25 (01:26:50):
Yep, that's a very good point. That was sort of
the save and grace of why we thought Liam would
be given extra time in Japan. He's raced there four times,
three times in Super Formula back in twenty twenty three,
and then of course when he filled in for Daniel
Ricardo that same season. Yeah, I would like to think
he does get the chance at Suzuka, but all the
messaging from people as ov to today is that, yeah,
there is a bit more in.

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
This, and there is history of rumors being leaked through
the Dutch media, right.

Speaker 25 (01:27:16):
Yeah, absolutely, the Dutch. The Dutch media because of the
stap and the stap in camp, they are normally pretty
good with this stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
So that sounds like there's someone in the that's been
step VN steppan that's leaking at them, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:27:27):
Yeah, yes, yeah, we got them. This one's a good one. Guys.
I'm not a motorsport fan, but Liam Lawson is only
a kid at twenty three. In this will hopefully be
part of a learning process Forum. Success doesn't always follow
a linear path. He will benefit and grow and become
strong with through this my thoughts. But keen on your
sports reporters thoughts on that. Who's written that that's a

(01:27:49):
Texter no name.

Speaker 25 (01:27:51):
That's a bloody good point.

Speaker 3 (01:27:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 25 (01:27:53):
So the reason why red Bull backed Liam into that
seat was because they know how mentally tough he is.
All of their such psychometric evaluations through last year showed
that he was mentally stronger than a Pierre Gasler and
Alex Albon who really crumbled under the way of ex
I don't think this will be the end of Lam
Lawson in Formula one. It might be the end of
him at Red Bull. But as we've seen from the

(01:28:14):
other drivers who have come in and sat next to
step in and ultimately struggled, you can go away elsewhere
and make it so.

Speaker 2 (01:28:21):
Knowing the struggles that other drivers have had in that seat,
was it the right decision for him to take that option?

Speaker 7 (01:28:30):
When?

Speaker 5 (01:28:30):
When?

Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
What if this? If this plays out like it is,
it's sort of played out like people to expect it,
was it the right thing to do? Do these?

Speaker 3 (01:28:38):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
Would you do? You just have to have such a
phenomenal ego to be able to take every corner and
do what you have to do. And if one that,
if a seat has offered you like that, you just
go yeah, I back myself.

Speaker 7 (01:28:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 25 (01:28:51):
And that's what Yuki Snoda is going to be faced
with over the next couple of days and weeks, isn't
he You'll be saying, be careful because everyone who has
gone into this job has failed, and why will you
have any different? And all said because I'm Yukis Noda
in the same way that Lam Lawson said that. Because
I'm lam Lawson. I'm sure he didn't say that because
he's not that cocky to talk about himself from the
third person. But you're right, you do, like these are
the twenty best drivers and theory in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:29:11):
You know, they use one and one and one and
one across your life to get.

Speaker 25 (01:29:15):
There, and then all of a sudden you can't win.
And it's how you deal with that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:18):
You think you're the one that's going to be able
to change it up.

Speaker 3 (01:29:21):
The sticks for ass If Liam gets swapped to racing balls,
I hope he smokes them in Japan and proves it's
the Karen not the driver. If that was the case,
can he ever get back to the Tier one team?

Speaker 25 (01:29:33):
It's yeah, like I said before, I don't see that
why there's any reason why he couldn't, But it would
be unprecedented. No one has ever gone down back down
to the junior team and then come up. You know,
it's just not how they do it. It's such a
results business that you know someone else can catch your
eye and you go, you know, and say, maybe, well
what about hermanstead of the guys we've got in the
junior team. Remember, let's not forget Liam was the first

(01:29:54):
guy to be promoted from the junior team into the
senior team since twenty nineteen. You know that's what five
years without any growth, and Red Bull have the best
driver development program in the world. They just don't get
a chance because it is so results driven that you
have to get someone who's winning, not just someone who's
your Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:30:08):
We're talking to sports reporter Alex Powell. If you've got
some questions to them on this whole Liam lawsome situation
nine two nine two or eight hundred eighty ten eighty,
Graham says, real, Liam Lawson. The entirety of the blame
for this messes at Red Bull. It can directly be replaced,
can be directly placed at the feet of Christian Horner.
He brought back as bestie Ricardo. A total has been

(01:30:29):
into the Racing Bulls team. When Lawson should have been
a year competing against sonoda and gaining experience of Formula One,
then they could have judged both drivers across an entire season.
Ricardo was never going to be the driver he was,
and Lawson missed the valuable time in the car as
a result of the total failure of that experiment. Just
while I'm here, a quick change of topic to Indy Cars.

(01:30:49):
Stingray Rob has to be the best racing car driver
name ever since Dick Trickle I was racing NASCAR GA
great text.

Speaker 25 (01:30:57):
Big agree on on Stingray Rob He loves Stingray Trickle.

Speaker 3 (01:30:59):
That's a fantastic name.

Speaker 25 (01:31:01):
Yeah. On the Riccardo point, it is important to point
out that when Liam came in to replace Daniel Ricardo
in twenty twenty three and then was overlooked anyway, the
contract has already been signed by the time Lemba was
in there, so there wasn't a seat there for him
unless they sacked someone, right.

Speaker 3 (01:31:15):
Yeah, Okay, this one is pretty to the point. Liam
Lawson is done. He's going to be out of the team.
No coming back from this Blue is chance, highly unlikely
to get another shot. Name on that no name, no name.

Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
Benedict Arnold, country hater, unpatriotic.

Speaker 25 (01:31:34):
Yeah, no, Look, I understand why people would think that way,
but I think Red Bull have so much faith and
Lemmis remembers that they wrote it into his contract that
if they didn't offer him a seat for twenty twenty five,
he could leave. You know, they don't do that unless
they believe. I cannot see a world where they will
just give up on him after two races. If this was,
you know, twenty two races and they went, okay, maybe

(01:31:55):
you're not the guy then sure, but not two races
and they are. They are not that brutal to their
own drivers. I know it might seem though that's not
the case, but I just don't see a world where
they give up on them all together.

Speaker 3 (01:32:07):
Yeah, great, Oh eight hundred and eight. Keen on your
thoughts about what is going on with Liam Lawson and
the noise surrounding him as a driver for Red Bull.
And if you've got a question for Alex, ninety two
nine two is the text number. It is twenty two
past three.

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty
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Speaker 3 (01:32:32):
Good afternoon, and we're talking about reports that Liam Lawson
has been dropped from Red Bull Racing and keen on
your thoughts and questions. And we've got new Zellen Herald
sports reporter Alex Powell in studio who's been all over
the story from the get go. Alex, thanks again for
coming in, Gavin your thoughts on this.

Speaker 21 (01:32:52):
Yeah, I'd just like to ask whether this is actually
a fact and has it been announced by oracle red
Bull or is it just speculation because there's so much
noise around but I can't see any official announcement on it.

Speaker 25 (01:33:13):
Yeah, I mean it's a very good question. No, nothing's
been made official by Red Bull yet. But as a journalist,
when you're covering this, you're this close to it. If
you're going to put a story out there and attach
your name to it, you are going to be very confident.
And that's what's going to happen. And like we said earlier,
the Dutch media are actually very good at getting things
from Red Bull and getting it out there before the
team themselves.

Speaker 21 (01:33:33):
Yeah, I disagree with that. They've got a reputation of
the Dutch media of jumping on the sandwagon, where a
lot of the things that they've reported on have actually
been didn't happen.

Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
So you've got an example of that, Gavin. Have you
got an example of one of those things that I have?

Speaker 21 (01:33:54):
But I'm driving at the moment and I haven't got
the facts in front of me, but I have had
two or three instances whereby they've jumped the gun in
mainly around the staff and actually, yeah.

Speaker 25 (01:34:09):
I mean, just to Gavin's point, there is nothing more
than I would love for than this to be wrong
and to get season at Red Bull. However, like all,
there's no smoke without fire and everything that's out and
the people I've spoken to today, I spoke to Limb's
camp and their answer was, I don't know. It's a
very easy no if it's not true.

Speaker 3 (01:34:26):
Yeah, just just on that because clearly all signs point
to this being accurate or at least truth to to
some of these reports. But is there a bit of
skullduggery when it comes to Formula one and the information
that gets linked from time to time?

Speaker 5 (01:34:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 25 (01:34:41):
I mean, but that's all sort of these political sports
media rounds that you get people who will tell you
things in their own interests, so you put it out
there and then that maybe move something somewhere else and
opens up something else for their client, you know. So yeah,
there is a bit of musical chairs about it.

Speaker 2 (01:34:55):
Great, welcome to the show, I think.

Speaker 19 (01:34:58):
So two points, has he done enough with an apprenticeship?
And secondly, isn't it typical that nasty corns your head
before by the carond who wouldn't sign their name?

Speaker 21 (01:35:08):
Can we knock in the machine?

Speaker 6 (01:35:10):
You know?

Speaker 19 (01:35:11):
We love to knock people down. He's only a twenty
three year old and I hope it all works out
for him in the future. Things do come right. We
should be proud of a guy into typical musual and
less knock someone down who tries to cook rights about
the precipice. It's just typical, isn't it.

Speaker 25 (01:35:26):
Yeah, I mean absolutely like they have. That's been really
sad to see people willing to see Liam fail and
ready to simper. What was your first question again?

Speaker 7 (01:35:34):
Sorry?

Speaker 19 (01:35:36):
Has he done enough of an apprenticeship? I mean has
he served enough time? Or you know, does he need
to hang in there bit wrong? Or is this.

Speaker 25 (01:35:44):
It's hard to say because he's only done you know
what now thirteen races over over two years. But he
has been with that team for a long time. He
knows how the teams will have, both teams work. He's
been the test driver, has been the reserve driver. But
if you're right, if it is going to be something
that takes more and more confidence and more and more
time in the card to get right. Stappen didn't just

(01:36:04):
go straight into Formula One and start winning. He was
given time and then they moved up into Red Bull
and I thought it was there any one straight away,
So it's different for every driver and development's not linear.
But like I mean, that's it's a very good point
you made. This could actually be a good thing for
Liam if he gets a bit more time in racing
balls where there's a bit less spotlight on him.

Speaker 7 (01:36:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:36:21):
Well, let's hope that everyone's got it wrong and it's
not true. But looking at your face there, Alex.

Speaker 3 (01:36:27):
Yeah, but as we will get you back in when
that breaks or Christian Horner comes out and confirms. All mate,
Thank you very much and well done for all your
work in the background on this and as we say,
we'll get you back in in the next couple of days.

Speaker 2 (01:36:39):
Thanks, have a Heerald sports journalist Alex Powell.

Speaker 3 (01:36:41):
Yeah, right, coming up. It is part of our US
the Experts series. Matt the Mechanic. He's got thirty eight
years experience as a mechanic and pretty much every car
franchise and brand you can think of. So now's your
opportunity to ask him questions if you have and travel
with your motor He is the man to chat too.

Speaker 2 (01:36:57):
Yeah, that's right. Nine two nine two is the text number.
But you've got a better chance on E one hundred
and eighty ten, eight.

Speaker 3 (01:37:04):
Twenty nine past threefew's.

Speaker 14 (01:37:09):
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and the city rail link are key. Police are considering

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Today, three men.

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It ends at Herald Premium now back to Matt Ethan Tyler, Adam.

Speaker 3 (01:38:16):
Thank you Rayleen, and it is time for Usk the
expert in this week were I've got Matt Bullen in.
Matt the mechanic from Exil Autos and Fakatan. He's got
thirty eight years experience as a mechanic in the automotive industry.
He's worked for pretty much every franchise brand you can
think of, from Japanese through to the Europeans. And he
joins us once again to answer your questions if you've

(01:38:36):
got a problem with your motor. He's the man to
chat to. Matt. Very good afternoon to you.

Speaker 7 (01:38:41):
Good afternoon, matt En Tyler. How are you?

Speaker 3 (01:38:44):
Yeah, very good. Nice to have you Beck. So let's
just start. Let's just start with a quick chat about
warrant of fitness rules and regulations and the things people
don't always understand.

Speaker 27 (01:38:55):
Okay, well that's I think that's how this sort of
semen got set off. I replied to a call about
a year ago with a warrant question and it was
quite interesting and popular at the time. Warrants of fitness
Like I'm a authorized vehic inspector, so I'm a mechanic
and we do warrants as part of our job. There's
a lot of misconceptions and a lot of myths around warrants,

(01:39:15):
and I'll cover one of them. The first important one
is I've got a wron on my car. I'm all good,
and you might be, but you might not be. A
warrant of fitness is a visual inspection. It's a safety cheap,
but it's only a visual inspection. We can only check
what we can visually see without removing any parts. Now,
we are allowed to remove parts, but we're not required

(01:39:36):
to remove any parts.

Speaker 7 (01:39:37):
Right, things wear out.

Speaker 27 (01:39:38):
Tires wear out, bulbs, blow breaks wear out. I'll give
you an example. The legal minimum for tire tread is
one point five millimeters, right, that's half a match head.
So if you've got four tires that are half a
match head deep, then I can't fail that.

Speaker 7 (01:39:54):
I've got to give you a warrant.

Speaker 27 (01:39:55):
Most warrants now for twelve months, So you get a
twelve months warrant on really minimum tire tread depth. Now,
they might last you a week, they might last your
six months, depending on how many cars you do. On
the back of your check sheet, and not many people
read this on the back of the check sheet that
says it is the driver's responsibility to maintain the vehicle

(01:40:15):
up to warrant standards. Right, it's not the owner's responsibility,
it's not your mum's responsibility, it's the driver's responsibility. Now
that has implications. If you've got four ball tires and
you have an accident, you run into somebody's three hundred
thousand dollars Bentley, your insurance company is going to have
look at your car and if they find you had
four ball tires on it, they're going to say to
you and no, we're not going to pay that.

Speaker 3 (01:40:36):
That is good to know. I don't know that.

Speaker 7 (01:40:40):
Just because you've got a warrant doesn't mean you've got
a warrantable car.

Speaker 2 (01:40:44):
So is there ever a situation where a police officer
will pull you over and look at your car and
even though you've got a warrant go, you know, can
you be ticketed driving around with a car that's got
a warrant but it has things wrong with it?

Speaker 27 (01:40:57):
Yeah, you're driving an unwarrantable car, right, whether you've got
a warrant or not. And the police know they can
look at look your registration number. It while they're following you,
they know you've got a current warrant in the current rego,
they know you're name and address, who the registered owner is.
But if they pull you up and you've got lights
not working, they probably pull you up. If your break
lights aren't working, yeah, and they can say you look
your break lights out, go and.

Speaker 7 (01:41:18):
Get it fixed.

Speaker 27 (01:41:18):
But if you've got loaded suspension that's not complying, or
you've got tires with steel poking out of them, they
can stop you from driving that car on the spot and.

Speaker 7 (01:41:27):
Have a toad.

Speaker 2 (01:41:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:41:28):
Very green stickers and red stickers.

Speaker 3 (01:41:30):
Yeah, that is great information for most of us to know. Now,
if you've got a question for Matt, now's your opportunity. Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to
call if you want to text through. You more than welcome.
Nine to nine to two. But let's go to the phones. Simon,
how are you?

Speaker 23 (01:41:46):
Yeah? Good aftering guys. Hey, look, I've got a twenty
thirteen trailer Canray, which I love, but it's real noisy
on startup. I actually had an earlier model, the same
model the same year, which I managed to crash and
right off. So and they had exactly the same noisy startup.
Now Trayder kindly did a fix on that for free.
They replace the cam chains enginer. So my questions are,

(01:42:07):
first of all, is this a common issue with two
thousand and thirteen cameras, and if so, it is to
labels to continue to fix these under their freebie.

Speaker 7 (01:42:16):
Can you tell me what mote isn't.

Speaker 23 (01:42:18):
It to two point four? I can pop the herd.

Speaker 2 (01:42:22):
If you want, Yeah, pop the herd. Hell will take.

Speaker 7 (01:42:28):
Three five if e or five. These z field.

Speaker 23 (01:42:33):
Have a sticker on the on the on the cam
chagn cover one on the I wouldn't.

Speaker 7 (01:42:37):
Imagine it's got a cam change. I wouldn't imagine it's
got a cam chain. It should have a cam belt.

Speaker 3 (01:42:42):
Okay, let's a all right, yeah, all right, you've popped
that bonnet, Simon you eh and we look.

Speaker 7 (01:42:53):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:42:54):
Well last Simon hold it. I just hold there, Matt,
he's going to come back.

Speaker 23 (01:42:56):
There's nothing. Yeah, no, there's school guys. There's nothing on
the motor to identify it. But there a diamond doesn't
like they're they're all over the roads. The most common
Zealand assembled when zilling you two thousand and thirteen point five.

Speaker 7 (01:43:09):
Yeah, so it won't be a cam chain, it'll be
a cam belt.

Speaker 23 (01:43:13):
That'll be a cam belt.

Speaker 7 (01:43:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 23 (01:43:14):
So that so that noise on startup when it's cold,
and if you leave it sitting for a few days,
it's noisier. If it's warm, it's quiet as it's just
one startup when it's cold.

Speaker 7 (01:43:23):
Yeah, I just want to determine it's a belt and
not a chain. Yeah, I know. I don't think it'll
be a cam chain. I think it to be a
cam belt.

Speaker 23 (01:43:32):
Okay, So if Toyda, like I had exactly the same model,
which I said, as I've managed to write off, Tyda
did a free fix on that and they put a
they put a new tension and it's the noise away.
Would be your expectation. You could go back to them
and say, hey, look you did one, could you do another?
Or is it kind of a window that age understanding?

Speaker 7 (01:43:52):
Yeah? Probably probably not at that age. They will do it.

Speaker 27 (01:43:54):
They will do an out of warranty consideration, but maybe
at a five year old vehicle or a six year
old vehicle something like that, but probably not a twenty thirteen.
Now it's it's twenty you know, it's fifteen years old
on it, so.

Speaker 23 (01:44:08):
Sure, yes, one probably wouldn't get it done if I
continue to if I continue to run it when it's
rightly on cold startup, is it la to do damage?

Speaker 7 (01:44:17):
Oh? Mate?

Speaker 27 (01:44:18):
Without hearing it, I can't say that. But if it's
if it's a cam belt, I'd just like to know
what engine it is. If you can tell what the
engine is, if you can even text tell what the engineers,
you can probably adjust the belt.

Speaker 2 (01:44:29):
Simon, you go and you go and see if you
can find out what the engine that is and then
text it in and then then we'll do we'll be
on the plate and then we'll give that information to
Matt or us. We'll won't be able to get to
all of our callers coming through a lot of texts
coming through and callers, and we want to get to
everyone if we.

Speaker 3 (01:44:43):
Can, absolutely so. O eight one hundred and eighty ten
eighty is the number to call if you've got a
problem with your car. Matt is the man to chat
to and pays to get in right now. If you
can't get through, keep trying, because it's always a popular segment.
It is twenty wonder four.

Speaker 4 (01:44:58):

Speaker 5 (01:45:03):
Matt and Taylor.

Speaker 1 (01:45:04):
Afternoons with the Volvo xc N eighty attention to detail
and it can be flintic comfort news talks.

Speaker 3 (01:45:09):
They'd be s eighteen to four. We're joined by Matt Bullen.
He is a mechanic with thirty eight years experience past
part of our Ask the Experts series I one hundred
and eighteen eighty. If you've got a question for Matt's ellen,
you've got a question for Matt.

Speaker 28 (01:45:22):
Yeah, Hi, guys, I just happened to be talking about
this today. Actually a bit warren of finasis. If you
go and get a war on a Finnis and you fail,
you've got the twenty eight days to get it, Otherwise
that you're charged again. And I know that's a charging thing.
Is there actually a grace period?

Speaker 24 (01:45:43):
You know?

Speaker 28 (01:45:43):
If I happened to drive it out of the testy
sat and go home and have Tripico pulls me over
or policeman pulled them over, is he with is it
right to give me a ticket or not?

Speaker 7 (01:45:57):
Yep? Sorry you were breaking up here bit.

Speaker 2 (01:46:00):
So basically was saying that if you if you get
the twenty eight day grace period, you fail to warn
a fitness and they give you twenty eight days to
get the thing fixed. If you pull over a by
police in that time and they spot something that's not
you know, up to warrant for the standard, can they
charge you or is the fact that you're in.

Speaker 27 (01:46:18):
No, there's no, there's no such thing as a grace period.
They can't charge you another fee until twenty eight days.
So if you take it back tomorrow you get a
free reinspection. But if the only reason you're allowed to
drive your vehicle at that point is to to get
a warrant, so you can't go to the supermarket on
your way home, you can take it home and then
you can take it back to get work. Wow, Or
you can take it back for the recheck if you

(01:46:39):
get pulled up in that time. Yeah, they are quite rightly,
we'll give you a ticket.

Speaker 7 (01:46:44):
Wells.

Speaker 27 (01:46:45):
Most police will say, look, you get your warrant within
seven days or something, bring it in and we'll get
rid of the ticket. But the only reason you can
drive a car without a warrant is for the sole
purpose of getting a warrant.

Speaker 2 (01:46:56):
Wow, that's interesting. I've always just taken that back in
the day. Is just grace period.

Speaker 3 (01:47:01):
I've got a month.

Speaker 27 (01:47:02):
Take your car, and take your car and before the
warrant expires, because we can post date them up to
fourteen days, so you don't lose any time. If we
take it in a week early, we'll post date it
the seven days. But if you fail, then you've still
got a current warrant on your One's going.

Speaker 3 (01:47:17):
Very good, so seal matters. Standing by for your question.

Speaker 29 (01:47:23):
So I drove a ks portage where the window wiper
fluid is leaking, and I just wanted to know is
it an easy fact? Is there a product I can
use to seal it? Or am I going to have
to take the whole thing with specialist to effects.

Speaker 7 (01:47:39):
Are you're talking about the wip the washer.

Speaker 27 (01:47:41):
Fluid, Yeah, yeah, yep, the water yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:47:45):
Okay, how much is it leaking? How much? Like does
it empty it completely? Yeah?

Speaker 29 (01:47:52):
It does it completely?

Speaker 27 (01:47:54):
Okay, So at the bottom of the bottle there's a
little pump or a rubber seal. That rubber seal may
be leaking or the little pump might have come out.
It's probably not something you're going to do at home.
It's it's really going to need to go up on oyst.
But no, there's nothing you can put in it to
seal it. That's all either got a broken potal all
the pull.

Speaker 7 (01:48:11):
The seals leaking.

Speaker 29 (01:48:13):
Okay, I'll take it in to get No, it's okay,
thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (01:48:18):
Right, all right, good on you, Thanks to seal. Thanks
for your cal Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty
is the number to call if you've got a question
for met Azaia. Hew are you soft tone?

Speaker 21 (01:48:28):
Hey, I'm good about you.

Speaker 3 (01:48:29):
Very good. Made his standing by for your question.

Speaker 16 (01:48:32):
Okay, great. So I've got a well, I got hit
at a parking lot very lightly, but it popped the breath.
It popped my rear tail light slightly. It's not it's
not broken, it's not cracked, but like it's out of
the clip, like in the bracket came loose, so it's

(01:48:52):
popping out slightly wobbley. I you know, looking for the
tailight's kind of expensive. I'm trying to look sick in hand.
But and I've still got months left, like near like
the second half of the year to get my wob
So I was wondering gonna couple me up on it.

Speaker 5 (01:49:07):
It worked, so.

Speaker 7 (01:49:10):
It may leak, it may leak rain order in.

Speaker 27 (01:49:13):
But as long as all the lights are working and
it's not broken, the lens aren't broken, and it's roughly
in the right place, then it shouldn't be a reason
to be ticketed. What sort of vehicle is it.

Speaker 16 (01:49:25):
It's a Corolla Axio like twenty extent.

Speaker 27 (01:49:31):
So so if you look in the boot in the
back where it's where it's attached, there should be a
couple of ten mil nuts and you should be able
to take those nuts off and pull it right out,
and then you should be able to see where the
clips go. The clips might have popped out of the
light unit itself.

Speaker 16 (01:49:45):
It's not broken, No, no, it's not broken.

Speaker 7 (01:49:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 27 (01:49:49):
It should be a simple folks, just take take the
nuts off from the back, pull it right out and
have it look at it.

Speaker 2 (01:49:53):
Yeah, good luck with that as am.

Speaker 3 (01:49:56):
Some great teachts coming through this one, says Matt. I've
got a BMW in EM three twenty sixteen to twenty
nineteen with an S fifty five engine. I think that
is that has a common crank hub failure. I've been
told that was a well known issue. Do us as

(01:50:20):
consumers have any rights to that well known issue with
the BMW M three.

Speaker 27 (01:50:28):
If you bought a new in New Zealand, you would,
but probably not if it's a second hand vehicle.

Speaker 3 (01:50:32):
Yeah, no, No, that's an easy one.

Speaker 7 (01:50:34):
It's it's not what I've heard of, but probably not.

Speaker 3 (01:50:37):
Hey, Matt's is a sexter.

Speaker 2 (01:50:38):
Why does my hold in three eight blow water out
the header tank? It never overheats, that's.

Speaker 27 (01:50:46):
What it can pressurizing. So it's a head gasket. Try
the radiator cap might need any radiator cap. So the
radiata CAP's got a pressure valve and a suction valve,
and both valves have to work. It'll push water out.
If it doesn't work, probably it won't pull the water
back in. Yeah, if it's not overheating, I'd be looking

(01:51:08):
at the radio to keep first.

Speaker 2 (01:51:09):
You go, okay, Carle, I had that help.

Speaker 3 (01:51:11):
Yep, very good, Tony, you're on with Matt.

Speaker 13 (01:51:15):
You're gonna Mat and gentlemen, look quick question. Warrants of
fitness is certificates. What is the main difference we have
shape your charf past the world of fitness, but you're
really you actually have to have a certificate fitness. What
would be the difference in a file for both those?
In other words, what are the aspects of the certificate
fitness and the difference between that and the world as

(01:51:37):
far as the checks and everything goes.

Speaker 7 (01:51:38):
Through in regard to what type of vehicle.

Speaker 13 (01:51:48):
Ride here, vehicle right, I just gotta have a certificate.

Speaker 27 (01:51:50):
Fitness, okay, yep, okay, that's the same as a rental
between the two wild h Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:51:59):
So what is the difference between fitness and a certificate fitness?

Speaker 7 (01:52:03):
I don't know. We don't do stifficatets a fitness. That's
something that I need the testing station will do.

Speaker 27 (01:52:10):
The best way to check would be to have a
look at two chick sheets and see if they're checking
anything differently.

Speaker 3 (01:52:15):
Yep, yeah, no, very good.

Speaker 27 (01:52:18):
If you've got another card that's a normal's private card,
just compare the two chick sheets.

Speaker 3 (01:52:22):
Yep, no, very good. Thank you very much, Tony. All
the best with that. David's You've got a question for Matt.

Speaker 30 (01:52:29):
Yes, Hello, good after doon.

Speaker 8 (01:52:31):
Matt.

Speaker 30 (01:52:31):
A question. If I was to take my car and
for a warrant a fortnight before the due date and
I get rejected, does the twenty eight day period start
from the date I got rejected or from the date
that the warrant was due.

Speaker 27 (01:52:48):
From the date you had your inspection done. It's just
the administration thing. It's just they don't charge you a
new fee until the twenty eight days after the test you've.

Speaker 30 (01:52:57):
Had, So it's not actually from the date that the
warrant was due because I've gone earlier. Say I've got
a fortnighted early and I got rejected. So does the
twenty eight day period to get it fixed run from
the day you haven't rejected or from the date that
the warrantfull.

Speaker 7 (01:53:15):
You do, right, that's from the first test your head.

Speaker 30 (01:53:19):
That's all right, thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (01:53:22):
Easy that one, all right, Dave your questions.

Speaker 31 (01:53:25):
Yeah, I've got a Jag two liters jag. I had
a new battery fitted to it and now none of
the doors will lock or unlock with the key.

Speaker 7 (01:53:40):
For how old is it? It's a twenty seventeen thirteen.
I have had a reset.

Speaker 31 (01:53:52):
A reset.

Speaker 8 (01:53:53):
So is that expensive?

Speaker 27 (01:53:56):
I would need to it would need to go. Probably
the best bit would be to go to an auto
electrician and have a check with an auto electrician.

Speaker 31 (01:54:03):
Yeah, because and they can locate the problem, can.

Speaker 27 (01:54:06):
They They might be able to tell you the best
place to start.

Speaker 3 (01:54:13):
All thess I know that you're worried about it being expensive,
So we've got our fingers crossed for you. Mate.

Speaker 2 (01:54:18):
Just just go and say it. Go and go in
and say I think we need a reset, and then
that'll make them think you know what you're talking about?

Speaker 31 (01:54:24):
That the mate, So you need a new car?

Speaker 3 (01:54:28):
All the best, mate, Thank you very much. Right, Oh,
one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to
call if you've got a question for Matt. It is
nine to four.

Speaker 4 (01:54:36):

Speaker 1 (01:54:41):
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Talks NB Afternoon. It is six to four and we're
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Speaker 2 (01:54:58):
And you've got a question for Matt around your Honda Odyssey.

Speaker 17 (01:55:01):
Yes, hi, Matt, Hi, guys. As I said, I've got
an old CE twenty nineteen two point four liter engine.
I've noticed a problem which sort of becomes dangerous. It's
going to delay in the acceleration pedal, so the car

(01:55:22):
basically doesn't respond if you're in the intersection. Uh, and
you want to pull or you want to take over
a car on a passing lane, the car which sometimes
doesn't respond to the pedal. It's like a delay, like
a second or two. And I found it dangerous.

Speaker 7 (01:55:39):
I feel like it. Does it feel like it's changing
gears or does it feel like the engine is just sluggish?

Speaker 17 (01:55:45):
Yeah, it feels like the engine is sluggish. So so
happen when I got another o DC, an older version,
same size Mota and it's very responsive.

Speaker 3 (01:55:58):
Yeah, Ian, thank you very much. We've got about sixty seconds.

Speaker 27 (01:56:01):
Man, If you haven't got an engine light on the dish,
or imagine it probably is an engine light, could be
something like an airflow meter or a map sensor. You'll
probably have to get it in and get it scanned
and get somebody to test the onboard computer.

Speaker 2 (01:56:17):
Yeah, i'd say, and that's one that you want to
take it because that's no good.

Speaker 7 (01:56:21):
If your mixed cars on the phone, I'd be rich.

Speaker 2 (01:56:24):
If you're leaving, you know, if you're losing power in
the middle of an intersection, no good, no good, not
a good.

Speaker 3 (01:56:29):
Place to be, right, Thank you very much. As always, Matt,
A pleasure to have you on and we'll do it
all again in about a month's time.

Speaker 7 (01:56:36):
Awesome, guys, Matte, did you fix your windows?

Speaker 3 (01:56:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:56:38):
The hey that worked that you said, reset the windows
and boom they're going.

Speaker 3 (01:56:41):
Best on the bizz.

Speaker 2 (01:56:42):
Thanks very much.

Speaker 3 (01:56:43):
All right, I'm going to say this, thanks Matt. We'll
catch you again soon. As always, advice offered in the
segment has done in good faith and should always be
confirmed by a physical inspection of your vehicle.

Speaker 2 (01:56:53):
All right, thank you so much for your calls and
texts today, and we'll see you tomorrow AVO for another
edition of Matt and Tyler afternoons. Until then, give a
taste of Kiwi see you then.

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