Full Show Podcast: 26 November 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
All Right, Hello, are you great New Zealanders and welcome
to the Matt and Tyler ZBI Afternoons podcast for the
twenty sixth of November. It's a Tuesday. Had a hell
of a show. Lots of chats today. Yeah, we went
deep into cops in the city. Certainly it's crime, dirty parking,
CCTV cameras and those filthy cars that drive around drift

(00:37):
netting and pinging everyone. That's even slight parking infringements with
no empathy or humanity or gray areas for the human experience.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
You got real angry about that. It might have been
after the amount of caffeine that you consume throughout the afternoon.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Around well a Musashi energy drink, three coffees and let's
be honest, punishing ay out of vapor as well. We
also went into Wonica Macas snobs. That was a really
heated chat. It's really firing up in Wonica with trailers
anti anti Macas and pro macers trailers down there in

(01:11):
the beautiful town of Monica. And then we finished on
movie etiquette chat around wicked and people singing in it.
So it's a great show, wasn't it?

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Certainly was a great show, had it all? If you
say so myself?

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Speaker 1 (01:32):
All right, then you're a new home for insightful and
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Speaker 3 (01:42):
Well get eight to you. Welcome into the show Tuesday afternoon,
seven past one. How you doing, Maddie, I'm doing very good.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
I've had my two energy drinks and my coffee.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Were smash about the stimulants today, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
I trouble stimulized. I don't know why that happened.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
What you got there? You've got a red ball when
a miss.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Sushi energy drink in my second coffee of the day.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Mean you're feeling good.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
I'm feeling I'm feeling pumped for three hours of news
talk z B afternoons with Matt and Tyler. Let's go
nine two, eight hundred and eighty ten.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Good, isn't he? He's on form right, big show today
after three o'clock, we are going to be chatting about movies.
One movie in particular, Wicked.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah, that's right. People are singing in it. It's a musical, obviously,
it's the cinematic version of a very very famous Witchy
Pooh musical. But people are going along and singing along
owdy and ruining it for other people. I mean, if
a person sitting beside you was just like a kick
ass singer, maybe even be different. But your average person

(02:43):
is not going to be singing on the level of
a of a cinema cinema level singer. Are they on
the screen? But that sort of raises the question of
general movie theater etiquette. There's a lot out there. One
of them for me is that you only eat your
popcorn and open your chips and open your snacks in
the loud bits of the movie, which made it very

(03:04):
difficult in all those quiet place movies. You had to
time it very care when you get your food down here,
because just someone it's enough annoying enough, just someone just
parnishing popcorn right beside you.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yeah, yeah, while talking. They're having your phone on as well.
And I mentioned this and it does my hit. And
if it's a comedy movie and there's one person that's
just got a real belly laugh and they just go
over the top of the laugh, I keep you're enjoying yourself,
but just calm down.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Oh come on, you can't hate someone for laughing in
a movie that if it's a comedy movie. I mean,
if it's a drama, then that's a different thing. What
about someone crying too much in a drama if you've had.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
That, No, no, that would be awkward. I don't leave
the movie theater if that happens.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah, No, I just think people in the movie in
a movie theater, and I've been so so hard on
my kids on this. Yeah, it's just their behavior in
the movies because you know there's other people are around you.
But looking at your phone and unleashing a torrent of
light pollution of other people is absolutely rife in movie
theater at the moment needs to be cut down. People

(04:07):
need to be tasted for it.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
That's half to three o'clock. After two o'clock, it's all
kicking off in Wanica. The well not all of them,
but a lot of Wonica residents don't want McDonald's in
the town center. So it's currently being heard by the
Queenstown Lakes District Council about whether it can go ahead.
And we had a look at the plans for this McDonald's.
It's a nice look in McDonald's.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah, it's a beautiful, tasteful McDonald's. I mean I didn't
have a real good look at it, but I think
there's shist and it's it's in the colors that you'd
expect for the Central Otago region.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
I think it's very, very tasteful.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
I love that word shist. Yeah, great word rolls off
the tongue.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Oh shist.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
It's interesting. If you build a building in Auckland out
of schist, it looks totally out of place. But if
you have built a building in parts of Central Targets,
which around Queenstown era town Wanaka, and you don't have shist,
looks very odd it certainly does you need shifts down there?

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yeah, but we're going to ask the question. I mean,
it happens, shift happens. It's a great line, but we're
going to ask the question. Should residents have the ability
to push back on a legitimate business if they took
all the boxes for the council. I mean there's liquor
stores in Wanakah. I'm sure there's a couple of ape stores.
Why should they be able to say no to or McDonald's.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Are there any strip joints in Wonicah?

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Not yet?

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Maybe, Yeah, I know there's a couple of queenstan not personally,
not from personal experience, but yeah, I don't know. I mean,
people can complain all they want, but it is interesting
that people because people have an idea of what Wanica
should be, right, Yeah, but I don't know. It's pretty commercialized.
Definitely is definitely pretty commercialized. I think McDonald's is widely
outside of the vibe down there.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Yeah, but that's going to be a good chat after
two o'clock because right now.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah, there's a new police station opening in jan and
central Auckland Federal Street. There's been well publicized problems in
the central business districts of Wellington, christ chich Auckland, Hamilton, Dunedin.
They's all been in the news. And look, a central
police station that people can walk into, I'm in sure

(06:09):
it makes things safer. It also makes people feel safer
and feel more likely to go into town and also
that you know, the more people that are around, the
safer people are as well. Definitely so, and we definitely
need people to be going back into CBDs. Terrible for businesses.
I mean there's other problems in terms of the City
rail Link and such an Auckland and various problems in
Wellington as well, But do you feel safe going into

(06:32):
your CBD in your city? Do you feel just safe
to go into town now? I mean, the government has
been talking a lot about law and order. There appears
to be more police out and about. I'm not sure.
I don't have the exact stats on that, but when
I'm out and about now, it does seem like there
are more police out and about.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
I'm all about visibility of police. That does make me
feel generally a lot safer. And there has been big
problems in christ Chooch and as you say, big problems
in Wellington. The issue in christ Chuch that they still
haven't sorted out. I don't know if they ever wore
but cathedral square right, and it's a bit of a
mess while they're fixing up that cathedral. But there used
to be a twenty four hour, seven day a week
police station there. Now it's a bit of a dicey area.

(07:12):
So that is a massive problem in that city. And
you do have a police station that you can walk
up to the counter, but I don't think it's twenty
four to seven. But they were starting to see more
beat cops on the street and that's important. If you see,
you know, the men and women in blue walking down
the street on Friday night, surely you feel a lot safer.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
So how how what's the ratio of Like then, how
many police stations do you think there should be twenty
four hour per Do you want one every five square
kilometers or.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
What one in every CBD? One in every CBD?

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, I think so, like in the central area. But
I was in a bottle store recently not far from here,
so the central business district of Auckland, and boy, I
feel sorry for the people that work in that store.
I was in there and this was very recently, so
this is in the area where this police station is
going to be. And some guys came in. They just

(08:06):
grabbed some boxes of beer off the off the shelves,
ran towards the door. The guy bind the counter came
out and blocked them. It was a huge frakar cheap
as it went down and just and I talked to
the guy afterwards, he threw them out, and I see,
what's that like? And because it's just constant, It's just
constant people coming in and hassling us. And I was thinking,
no one deserves to work in a situation like that

(08:28):
where they and like people say, all you're selling alcohol,
so maybe you're attracting that kind of thing. But you know,
I was in there just to buy a nice bottle
of wine on my way to a to visit some friends,
so you know, it was it was quite eye opening
what some people go through living working in our central
business districts.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Do you feel safe going into the CBD now in
Auckland because there were there were a myriad of problems
We all know that in Auckland, christ Juch, Wellington and
other parts of New Zealand, But generally I feel a
lot safer now than I did a year ago to
venture into those places.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
I don't know whether because it got really bad in
central Auckland a few years ago, and I don't know
if I've feel comfortable dropping my kids off down there
to go and do things in the central business I'll
do it.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
We're talking Queen Street.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah, I'm talking at Queen Street and just sort of
this general area here, And I feel pretty apprehensive about
my kids being down there. And I've heard lots of
stories about people's kids being hassled, and so, you know,
I'm pretty pretty I back myself to look after myself.
But I don't know. I mean, for a city really
to thrive, you need families to want to take their
kids down there. Yeah, yeah, so I definitely think police

(09:38):
stations will help with that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty. How do you feel
about going into the CBD these days, whether that's Auckland, Wellington,
christ Church, the town that you live in, do you
feel more safer in late twenty twenty four than you
might have felt last year when there was a supposed
crime wave going on. Love to hear from you. Nine
two nine two is the text number. This is on

(10:01):
the back, of course, of the new police station, Central
Police Station, which wi wiping up in Auckland next year.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
People are pointing out that there are police stations and
the CBD is one quite close house and on College
Hill or just off College. Hell yeah, I get that,
but the Auckland CBD is massive, Yeah, is massive. We're
talking a long distance between those places, so you know
the fact that there are ones there. There is room
for more attentionately.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
If you've got a problem in Queen Street, that's a
burg run to get the college here, that's a long way.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
And this one on Meryl Drive.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
Yeah, get on the phone. So oh, eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Love to
hear your thoughts on this one. It is a quarter
past one.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
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Speaker 3 (10:49):
Said b S eighteen past one. Do you feel safe
going into the CBD now, it's on the back of
the announcement of a new Central Police station that's going
to be man twenty four to seven. It opens up
in mid next year and it's going to have fifty
one beat cops who are staffing that particul killer police station.

(11:09):
Do you feel more safe now that we've got more
beat cops on the street and generally I do. I
do feel a lot safer.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Well, of course you do, right unless you're criminal activity. Yeah, yeah,
if you're going to see please there's fifty one beat
cops Central and Central Station in Central Ouklon. So you've
got the police station up on College Hill, don't you. Yes,
that's a wee way away from things. And this one's
sort of Federal Street, which is a bit more bit

(11:38):
more in the city. What about I don't know much
about christ Church. You're from christ Church? Where all the
you know, I guess it's kind of confusing in christ Church?
What is the CBD?

Speaker 4 (11:48):
Now?

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Where are other people? That where the people mainly go.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
It is fairly close to what you'd call the hospitality area,
So Oxford Terrace is where a lot of the hospital
areas are. Riverside Market is a new market there that's
been there for about three years, and the police station
is probably two blocks over. But I don't think it's
man twenty four to seven if you're in christ Church, no,
me know, nine two nine two. But just having that

(12:12):
police station right there, it is pretty central and I
would argue it would make a lot of people feel
pretty safe. We've also got they call it the Justice Precinct.
How can you not feel safe with the Justice Precinct
right there in the middle of christ jug.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
What I've just discovered is that the one on Gray's
av that I thought was still a police station, I
just found out that it's been closed for years and years.
If there'd been a problem that I was involved in,
I don't know, someone was trying to kill me in
a car or something, I probably would have driven right
there and found out that it was.

Speaker 5 (12:37):
Closed for sale.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Apparently you can buy it.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Yeah. Yeah, I've been interviewed in there a few times.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
Yeah, plenty of techs coming through on nine two ninety two. Lads,
I'm in Auckland, and I've got to say it feels
pretty unhinged to me, and loads of random behavior. It's unsettling.
The bus is getting shields as a testament to this, Tony,
I do not feel safe.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, and down K Road in Auckland, there's definitely some
intense behavior down there. I mean the cycle lanes on
K Road are essentially just meth lanes.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
Yea.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
If you're trying to drive a cycle around there, you
do have to weavy way in and out of a
serpentine fashion around myth heads and it can be pretty
pretty Herey, if you're trying to elf Risco dine on
K Road, but I mean this, this police station isn't
going to be too close to that area. But I mean,
if you'd want cops walking up and down K Road, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
But this is good because I said I feel safe.
But I haven't ventured into K Road since I've been
in Auckland the last seven weeks, and I very really
would go into the CBD. I just don't go to
Queen Street. I come here. We're in the CBD right now,
but that's as far as i'd venture because I'm out
in Mount Wellington, so there's not too much for me
to come into the CBD and experience there.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
And that's an interesting thing about safety and perception, right
because I've been into the Central Business District and on
K Road and I've seen some people that are definitely
meth and feeding me inficionados, and I've felt reasonably unsafe
around them, but I haven't actually had an altercation.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
So I've walked up and down K Road quite a
bit at various times of the day and night, and
whilst I've seen stuff that has made me feel very uncomfortable,
i haven't actually experienced much crime. Firstthand except for you
know that incident that I was talking about where I
saw in that bottle store, So a lot of it
might be perception.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Damien. What's your thoughts about crime in CBDs at the moment?

Speaker 6 (14:35):
Matta Daliel, how are you?

Speaker 4 (14:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (14:36):
Good?

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Keen on your thoughts?

Speaker 6 (14:39):
Yeah, so I commute to the CBD quite often. I
work in Mount Albert, but I live in the Shore,
so I passed through the CBD and I with it
the CBD quite often. Yeah, there's still much safer with
the compliance officers and also some police. I see some
police presence on Queen Street, hanging around Queen Street on

(15:00):
some weekdays, every weekends. Yeah, it is a good thing.
I would welcome it, and I find it perplexing as
a some one who has just moved to New Zealand.
I think two years ago that New Zealand. I mean,
I've only been working. Why why would you see the
biggest city, the biggest city in the country not have
a central police station. That is a bit that does

(15:21):
sound a bit strange, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Yeah? Yeah, I know, I agree. I mean I was
quite astonished when that announcement was had yesterday and I
realized College Hill was it for Auckland Central I mean
that did seem you know that, considering it's the biggest
city by far in New Zealand, that you didn't have
one within the CBD.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, I'm just looking round. I'm really blown away by that.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
But as someone pointed out on nine two, niney two,
I mean, we were talking about this new one having
fifty one beat cops and someone's pointed out that's only
three per shift, because you know, if you're running twenty
four hours. Yeah, that's not a lot of cops in
that area, is it.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
And a lot of ground to cover. Yeah, So Damien
is someone who goes into the CBD quite often. Do
you feel safer I mean, as a perception thing for
you than when we see these announcements and we get
told these things that there's more cops on the ground.
Does that I mean, you know, is that just your
perception or do you generally see less antisocial behavior?

Speaker 6 (16:19):
I generally do see this and desocial behavior, and like
I like I said, the organ Council comblinance officers, and
I think I see some police patrols then now like now,
I do generally feel feel much safer than before. And uh,
I mean and and probably just an international perspective because

(16:41):
I am from South I'm from Southeast Asia, and I've traveled.
I used to be a flat tendant, so I've traveled
around Asia. Yeah, most of Asia. I mean, I mean
cruise I mean as well as for aucan Is concerned,
cruise passengers come on in, that's.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
The first part of call.

Speaker 6 (17:02):
But probably most tourists who come on in, they probably
they want to do a tour of New Zealand. They'll
probably stay a night or two in the CBB. And
it's what as and and and as as an urbanist,
you know, I have you know, like the CBD is
probably the heart of the CEA. Yeah, I mean that's
that's what the Business Association namely is a hot heart

(17:23):
of the city. Yeah, so, I mean it has to
and as big as city in New Zealand, it does
the face the international face of the country. The inter
become financial and tourism face of the country.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
I often think that with the cruise ships piling people
into the bottom of town, and that's pretty nice around
for them around that area, but there are areas down
there and it is pretty hearing and always it's funny,
like because you should worry about your your own citizens more.
But but.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
When it comes to tourists, right, yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Mean, you know, as I've said before, we need tourists
and we need to flace some for their money. But
I often see the amount of tourists going out into
that area of Auckland and think, boy boy, they might
run into some hairy, stuffy Damien. How old are you,
if you don't mind me asking, I.

Speaker 6 (18:19):
Just thirty one, yea.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Early this month's yeah, yeah, ess interesting because so my
son who's just turned eighteen, right, and he said to
me other night, Oh, my friends are going to some
bars in town, you know, into basically the central business
district of Auckland that we're talking about there, and people
in Wellington and christ Church and Hamilton ever will have
who have kids that have just become that age. We

(18:45):
they're allowed to go in bars. And I said yes,
because he's eighteen. But I was actually thinking, and look,
when I was eighteen, I went anywhere and took crazy
risks all that kind of stuff. But I was I
didn't like the idea. I didn't say no, but I
didn't like the idea of him going out and partying
in the center of Auckland. But that's probably been that,

(19:07):
that's probably been the case for a for a long time.
And Auckland, I'm back in the nineties, used to be
very very rough in the center center of the city.
So you're saying that that that you feel like New
Zealand is feels more dangerous than some of the other
places you've been. Damon.

Speaker 6 (19:22):
Oh, yes, I've lived in actually I lived in Central
Dago for a year so and and and it's it's
much it does feel much much safer that I mean,
obviously that's much much yes, people there, yeah, yeah, And and.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
What about overseas though we're specifically talking about that you
that you came from.

Speaker 6 (19:45):
Uh so, I'm from Malaya. Yeah, and I've just moved
to New Zealand about two years ago, over two years ago.
And yeah, yeah. Now I've been the most Asian cities, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Singapore,
even Taiwan Bangkok. There's not much anti Honestly, there's not
much anti social behavior you feel safe in in in

(20:08):
the CBD because yeah, there's a there's a huge crowd.
Usually the streets are full with people, and you know
it is there's no opportunity for any any sort of
antisocial behavior.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Interesting what was in Bangkok recently and the anti social
behavior I saw was mainly from Australians, New Zealanders and
British people.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Co San Road. Yeah, it's crazy down there, Damien, thank
you very much. It is twenty eight past one.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Digging into the issues that affect you the Mic Asking Breakfast.

Speaker 8 (20:39):
I watched the press conference live yesterday. I thought what
Mark Mitchell said was true, having been a beat cop himself.
The role in the power of the beat cop from
your point of view as what well ex exactly the
same as ministrectly, because I also spent time walking to
beat here in Auckland City. So this morning the story
is that some schools will not be receiving their maths resources.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Why I'm not aware of that.

Speaker 9 (21:02):
I know Erica is working really hard to make sure
everyone's got the maths resources they need.

Speaker 8 (21:05):
We don't back tomorrow at six a the Mic Hosking
Breakfast with Mayley's Real Estate News Talk ZB confrontational.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah, so maths. We're doing maths on the shifts on
the new police station and Fiddle Street. So fifty one police,
according to this text, are in nine two nine two
equals twelve per shift, not three point three shifts per day.
Seven days equals twenty one shifts, but they each work
five shifts per week. Fifty one people times five shifts
equals two hundred and fifty five available shifts divided by

(21:33):
twenty one equals twelve staff per shift. Mas, y Mas,
I'll just get my calculated out, but I'll get the
feeling that David knows what he's talking about with that one.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
Yeah, and Dino says, Gooday, guys. I hate going into
the town center after dark nowadays. Just don't feel safe
and always feel as if I'm being watched. And that's
in Danny Verk.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
And Danny Vick Yeah, by races.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Someone says that the town's the CBDs of New Zealand
are full of homeless people and druggies. This person here
on nine two nine two says no point feeling safe
when the CBD is a dump. Yeah, and I think
that that is the case. I mean, currently the CBD
has been absolutely ripped apart by the sort of city
rail link building and it feels very very sort of

(22:17):
disheveled and broken down and not finished at the moment.
But I will say, you know where the cruise ships
came in a couple of weekends ago. I went to
the City farmers Market and britom Art on a Saturday morning,
and that is beautiful around there. It's a great farmer's market.
So there is stuff down there that you can go
to that's pretty it's pretty international feeling, and it's definitely

(22:39):
around that area on a Saturday morning and afternoon. I mean,
that's pretty safe down there at that point. But I mean,
how many places in the world are safe at two
am in the morning.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
I like the Vitaduct, the vite Act's nice.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, AC's nice.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Yeah, that's a good time, right, I think that is
We will leave it, but we are going to pick
it up. About CCTV cameras headlines.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Well, CCTV is a huge part of policing where you
have a police you know. You know, I guess CCDV
is interesting because you've got to get the cops there,
don't you. Yeah, but a lot of the CCTV footage
that's being used now is by our council to paying
people that are parking. Speaking of Federal.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Street, Yeah, so this is the story about David Burnett.
He's a joiner and he says he was ticketed six
times within a month when he parked up on a
street that you're not allowed to park up when he
was loading up his tools at the end of the
working day, but he was stun by CCTV traffic cameras.

(23:36):
And that's what we want to have a chat about
very shortly on O eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Well, you know my belief in this area that I
think a ticket that like parking finds, are theft because
we own the city, our rates, paid for our taxes,
paid for the city's hot On this, I am absolutely
hot on it. There should be there should be you
should be. There should be periods of time where you
can park for free, and if you go over that
then then there should be fines. But charging people to park,

(24:03):
I think is disgusting. Yeah, I think that is revolting.
It needs to be stopped. There's a slightly different issue,
but in this case there how's this guy supposed to
do his job? So normally speaking, say if there was
a parking warden of the old kind, they would walk
up and you'd have a discussion. They'll probably say move on.
But what's this guy is supposed to do? He's working
down there. He's building, he's doing a productive thing for

(24:25):
New Zealand society because things need to be built, and
he can't leave his tools there because they'll get stolen
or they may get stolen. So he's got to do something.
And he's been pinned five times by an inhuman camera.
And they're saying here in this that they go through
the footage and they apply they can apply compassion.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
That is rubbish. A can a computer apply compassion?

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Well, they say someone that there's a person that Fiddle
Street is one of the areas where at uses CCTV
TV and an experienced parking officer reviews any footage before
any ticket is issued. They will apply discretion and compassion.
So this is in Fort Street she had z owned
is one area where we are currently looking at where
they have recor east from business and stuff to change

(25:09):
it up. But you're not complying compassion because this guy
has brought it up with you and you've said, nah,
we're still going to find you. So I just think,
you know, the old fashioned parking warden walking around having
a discussion, Come on mate, how long are you going
to be here? And moving them on? But now they've
just got that, they've got the CCDV cameras and they've
got those cars that I think so unfair, just zooming

(25:31):
around at pace paying people. It should be a fair
battle between It should be at the very least a
fair battle between between the citizens and the parking enforcement.
Just mind sweeping drift netting for tickets as you scream
around town. It's not a fair battle. You know, it's

(25:52):
our city. It's our city.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
Oh, eight hundred eighty t and eighty. That's how Matt
feels about it. How do you feel about it? Nine
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(27:17):
Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
Thank you very much. Ray Lean. So we're talking about
a tradee who has been stung for more than five
hundred bucks with six parking fines from ticketing cameras in
one month, and he says Auckland Transport is driving people
out of the city centers. So, despite receiving complaints from businesses,
Auckland Transport says it's planning to install even more of
these cameras city dirty. So David Burnett, that's his name.

(27:42):
He's a joiner, and he says the six tickets were
incurred after five pm when he was picking up his
tools from a construction site on Federal Street in Auckland, CBD.
I quote each time, I was only there for a
few minutes, as I can't leave one hundred and twenty
kilograms of tools and glass overnight. It's not safe or practical.
But I can't pick them up without incurring a parking fine,
even for as little as two minutes. He disputed the

(28:05):
tickets with at to no avail, which means more finance
penalties added to the poor bugger. He said, it's like
talking to the hand. I don't think it's reasonable for
small contractors like myself to have to pay these fines, which.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Calls into question what act Group Manager Parking Services John
Strawbridge said. He said that Federal Street is one of
the areas where AT uses, CCTV and Experience parking offices
review the footage. They will apply discretion and compassion. As
if if you want to apply discretion and compassion, then
don't have the cars whipping around with the cameras just

(28:38):
pinging everyone willy nilly like the citizens of your city
are the enemy of Auckland transport. And if you're going
to run CCTV footage, stop, don't be pinging parking people
using it. Use it for security. And every single thing
you should be doing around parking is to get as
many people in the city doing as much as they can,
whether it's shopping, visiting hospow or doing what this guy

(29:01):
is doing, which is trying to do his freaking.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Jobs building buildings.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Yeah, and look there's a text here Talmatt to follow
the rule simple, or he can join the ranks of
law breakers and even further down the unknown path for
most conservative folk. Yeah, well, ring me up and tell
me that I'd love to have the discussion with you
on on that because I will never follow parking rules.
I will try and get around them as much as
I can because I don't. I do not agree with them.

(29:27):
I don't. I'm not going to blindly follow that rule
to the point where if you are a joiner like
this guy, so because it's a rule that he can't
park there, he can't do his job. Yeah, that is ridiculous.
He's supposed to just leave the leave his equipment there.
That's crazy. Why would you. That is an unfair and
ridiculous rule, and to ping in that many times.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
That is not fair making common sense, as they say,
where's your compassion and common sense?

Speaker 2 (29:53):
And I'm absolutely sure that a parking warden that came
past would go, oh what are you doing?

Speaker 4 (29:57):
Mate?

Speaker 2 (29:57):
I'm just loading this up? Okay, yeah, okay, we'll move on. Okay.
How quickly are you going to Belan? Are you going
to be here? I want to be here for five minutes, mate,
And he'd go okay, okay, but you've got to move off.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
You if you shoot off in two minutes, no problem,
no ticket.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Yeah, but a CCTV camera in the supposed application of
discretion and compassion get out, as that is not happening.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Devin, You recently got a ticket?

Speaker 12 (30:19):
Yes, I stopped on Taylor Okay, firstly, I'm a woman
driver stopped on Taylor Street. A passenger opened the door
and got in, and I drove off. I got a
ticket for stopping on the yellow line for one second.
The duration of the parking infringement on the ticket was
noted as one second.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
What you said one second?

Speaker 13 (30:41):
One second?

Speaker 2 (30:42):
And did you say that you you complained? Did you
take it?

Speaker 13 (30:46):
Yes?

Speaker 12 (30:46):
I didn't complain. I took it through the system on
eighty website. I sent them an email. I went down
there and I can't remember the lady's name, but had
at on Divide it. The lady her first name is Jane,
I remember that. And when I showed her the ticket,
I said, you know what, where's the discretion? She said,
there's no discretion on parking tickets. There's where the exact word,

(31:08):
there's no discretion on the parking tickets.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
So you've been told there's no discretion. So this applying
discretion and compassion doesn't seem to exist. I have never
been I've never had I've never had compassion discretion applying
to me.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
I mean, one second, that's crazy, isn't it? And so
was that one of these cameras that must have been
given one of these cameras that have been driving around?

Speaker 4 (31:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Yeah, I mean I had this situation Diven the other day.

Speaker 12 (31:34):
Where you asked me, did you stop on the yellow line?

Speaker 4 (31:37):
I said yes.

Speaker 12 (31:38):
You said, well, in that case, if you're on the
disputed you've got to go to court.

Speaker 9 (31:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
So how do you let people off? As an uber driver? Divin,
how do you drop people off? You can't they have
to get out of a moving vehicle and do some
sort of roll onto the sidewalk. There's no way you
can stop. That's ridiculous, it's crazy.

Speaker 14 (31:56):
Stop.

Speaker 12 (31:57):
Yeah, another ticket that I've got on care or at
eleven o'clock at mate stopping at a bus stop, no
busters around to pick up a persenger.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Yeah, I mean, if you try, and if you're a
parent and you're trying to drop your kids off to
go to go to a shop or the movies or
something impossible. Yeah, if you can't stop for one second.

Speaker 12 (32:24):
That is honestly, the duration was actually you know, computer
printed one second.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
That they should be ashamed of that. Yeah, they should
be ashamed of hanging out a ticket for one second.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
Where is the human looking at the ticket and saying
one second in same we're going to rip that up.
That is crazy And Evan doesn't have to pay fifty bucks.

Speaker 12 (32:46):
The human that was at the at the eighty office there,
I asked to see the person was in charge, and
I remember she said clearly in the m with Jane,
but I can't remember the other name she was. The
one came to me and said, Cheer is in charge. Okay, yes, yeah, Yeah,
what's the problem. Yeah, I want to take it for
one second, and my where's the discussion? And there's no discussion.

(33:07):
You can take it, I think.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
I mean, I feel a little bit sorry for Jane
because it might have been the four hundredth times she's
had to apply rules that come from above. But yeah,
one second is ridiculous. And I was saying that before,
wasn't I off air Tyler play is saying here on
the text machine on nine two ninety two. Guys, even
both Auckland Airport drop off and pick up spots have
more compassion and common sense. That's right, because they've got

(33:32):
a human there and they come up and they can
be quite annoying because they're going move on, move on,
you know. But I've got someone coming. They're wheeling their
bag up and they go, okay, okay, but you've got
to move on, you know, because that's a human interacting
with a human. It's not CCTV. It's in CTV. They
say that a play compassion, but they're they're distant. They're
distant from the moment, and they're distant from the person

(33:52):
that experience. So it's just a picture on the screen.
It's not a person going about their day and their life.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
I was flabbergasted when you show me that car doing
the rounds. It was right outside this office section and
it looked like, I mean, it's clearly minority report situation,
but all those cameras on top. And I pointed it
and said, what the hell is that? You said that
sting in you if you're parking on the wrong place,
that'll get you just snapping pictures all the time. I mean,
that is just deeply unfair. I was not what parking
is about.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
I was driving down Great South Road, not far from
the McDonald's there people and Great North Road people in
Auckland will know where I'm talking about. But it's the
same in a lot of cities around this country. But
I had yet to cross a bus lane to pick
my friend up, and I had another friend in the car,
and he goes, you can't do that. I got pain
doing that the other day picking up the same guy.

(34:39):
It's another sheered friend. He goes, just crossing the bus
lane and a safe way to go to the side
of the road to pick your friend up, We'll get
you pained.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Yeah, unreal. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the
number to call nine two nine two. Are the static
CCTV traffic cameras just becoming deeply unfair? Love to hear
from you. It is thirteen to two.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
And we've got the opposing pinu' coming through from an
ex parking warden, So I'm looking forward to that.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Have a chat with the boys on eight hundred eight
and Taylor Adams Afternoons.

Speaker 5 (35:11):
You for twenty twenty four News Talk said.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Be here's a text here. We're talking about CCTV parking
enforcement and those punishing cars that evily drive around pinging people.
You're hot on a fear imbalanced intro there as an
ex parking warden and driver of those camera cars. I
can't comment on the federal street cameras, but the camera
cars were originally started with residence complaints about people parking

(35:36):
in the streets and then catching a bus to their
jobs in the city parking all day. So surely it's
a much fairer system now, okay mate, Yeah, well some
people complain, but it wasn't me. And I think they're
catching too many people, and I think they're making people,
creating a negative feeling towards the CBDs of our cities

(35:56):
in this country, and I think that Auckland Transport should
be more focused on making it easier for people to
park in the city and near the city then, as
opposed to harder with the zero tolerance lack of empathy
that they're showing.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
This is a war for you and at isn't it.
I'm liking it.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Yeah, well, I mean a lot of people agree with me. Yeah,
a lot of people got a few text offs shere
later that don't I love I love all communication.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Absolutely, John, how do you feel about these sort of cameras?

Speaker 7 (36:25):
I think that driver should have said he paused, he
didn't stop, he paused.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (36:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
That's a big difference, isn't it.

Speaker 7 (36:34):
That would make all those bearer cats scratch their heads?

Speaker 3 (36:39):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
There's a huge difference between a stop and a pause.

Speaker 7 (36:44):
There's a huge difference. Definitely. He's still in the car,
he had his engine running, he was all ready to
take off.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
And I've always, I've always, I've always believed that if
you're in the car that you're not then you're not parked.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
Yeah as well, just keep the mill the wheels slightly moving.
But John, I mean, do you agree that when you
get this sort of technology. Technology just goes a little
bit too far that if you really want parking enforcement
that you need to have officers on foot doing the
leg work rather than these cars that you know, opinon
everybody for the smallest things.

Speaker 7 (37:17):
Yeah, it's too sterile. Yeah, she'll be used to sit
back up for the bureau creps to advance their arguments,
and they should use common sense.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
John, thank you very much, really appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Yeah, let's keep this chat going. And I just got
this text on nineteen nine two. I don't believe you, Matt,
should be allowed to be a presenter on national radio.
With your negative way of behaving. You are more of
a criminal. And I'll share my response to that person
coming up next.

Speaker 15 (37:43):
Right.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
It is eight to two.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Matt Heath Tyler Adams taking your calls on Ethn Tyler
Adams Afternoons.

Speaker 5 (37:54):
News Talks five to one.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
We're talking about CCTV traffic cams. Mad is super hot
on this one.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
I think it takes the humanity out of them. I
think there's gray areas in parking, and I think that's
where parking personal parking enforcement is better. Person I think
that the city should not be allowed to charge us
to park at all. They may be able, they could
potentially find us for being parking too long. But I
think charging someone to park in their own city is completely.

Speaker 5 (38:19):
And utterly morally wrong.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
But that's a bigger fight to have. Yes, Yeah, and
I've got a lot of kickback on nine two niney
two on this. I don't believe you are allowed to
be a present You should be allowed to be a presenter,
Matt on national radio station. With your negative way of behavior,
you are more of a criminal than a presenter. And
this person is right as a responder, I am. I
robbed my costumes locker just this morning. I knocked the
bottle of sandoman forty year old Port twenty port four

(38:42):
hundred ninety fift five dollars. He should have locked his locker.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
He's not going to be happy about that.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
And I mugged Tyler just before out by the coffee
machine for his sneakers and I still pocket a store
Berry soapers glasses off his face.

Speaker 9 (38:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
Absolutely, I'm you're a bed. This person has got.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
This person has got my number. I'm just a criminal
operating on a national radio station and playing sight.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
We're going to keep this going after two o'clock, I
went one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. Nine two nine two is the text number
of texts heading up to the news. One million percent
agree with you, Matt. The cars there go around with
the cameras at the parking enforcement are rather the parking
enforcement version of carpet bombing.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Where is the empathy? Where is the gray area? Where
is the humanity?

Speaker 5 (39:24):
Yep?

Speaker 3 (39:24):
And this one we just got a fine from at
about one of our vans that had parked in town
without parking applying. However, we use the at park app
for all of our work vehicles and went back into
the transit transaction history, and we did indeed pay so nice.
Try at send your fine letters elsewhere.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Then you go all right, all right?

Speaker 3 (39:46):
So oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to cool. Nineteen nine two is the text number.
You're listening to Matt and Tyler. Very good afternoon too.

Speaker 5 (40:20):
Talking with you all afternoon.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
It's Matt, Heathan Taylor Adams afternoons you for twenty twenty
four used talk zaid be.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
Good afternoon to you Tuesday afternoon. Hope you're doing well.
I'll tell you who's doing well. Well, I think he's
doing well, my mate over the table where Matt, Yeah,
you are heavily caffeinated, my friend, You've had enough caffeine
to kill a small horse. By the looks of it.
You've got a red bull there, you've got a massage energy,
you've got a triple espresso ho lee.

Speaker 9 (40:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Look, just give me the energy I need to combat
Auckland transport in they're insanely inhuman and parking, forgetting about
the gray areas of humanity with their CCTV footage pinging
people and there in their mind sweeping of the good
citizens of their cities.

Speaker 5 (41:07):
And this isn't just.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
This is hey, it's as this Texas says to It's
not just Auckland. My partner got a parking ticket at
a railway station and suburb in Wellington because the front
of your car overhang the footpath. Front wheels were on
the curb. Keep up the crusade, Matt, and get Wayne
Brown on your show. He seems to have a bit
of common sense. Unlike the minority of your listeners that
are giving you crap.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
You're getting a lot of support. One hundred and eighty
ten eighty is the number to call. Now, Mike, you're
visiting from Australia. What's your thoughts about these traffic cameras
that seem to be pinging everybody at the moment?

Speaker 16 (41:41):
You got that wrong, I'm kiwi mate. Oh right, Holidays Australia.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
Okay, gotchat?

Speaker 12 (41:47):
Aren't you the bloat from Herocane?

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Yeah I am yeah, I've just moved up recently, Americans
to you. Oh yeah, well you can enjoy listening to
me here as well. Great to have you on board, Mike.

Speaker 16 (41:57):
Okay, so I've just come and the good news is
the parking Nazis at the airport just with the new
drop on a drop off scendrits dissipated. There were literally gone,
and they were ruthless. So such a good thing. The
second thing is I run a demolition company and we
did the job at Ponsomby and they just cruise around
those mobile little cameras and they were just prediculous.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
Yeah, instruction bigas.

Speaker 16 (42:22):
Coming in and out and all the rest of it,
and say, whoa guys.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
How do I do you sue this? You know?

Speaker 12 (42:26):
And then they.

Speaker 16 (42:27):
Had the audacity to say to us, oh, you can't
run your trucks down here, Well, hey, on how am
I meant to do it? Major demolitions and possibly and
the fact is like this, there's no sign saying you
can't use those roads.

Speaker 4 (42:40):
It's like, oh my god.

Speaker 14 (42:42):
But as it.

Speaker 16 (42:42):
Turned out, we didn't seem to get anything in the post.
They must must have led us off. But yes, pretty brute,
all those littles.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Yeah, I think that the the the whole of parking
enforcement should be calibrated to make sure that the city
runs smoothly for business, for construction, and for the citizens
to to you know, enjoy the hospitality and the restaurants,
and for money to bed and for people enjoy the city.

(43:10):
That is what it should be calibrated for. And for
that to work, there needs to be gray areas because
your CCD footage and your camera traveling around at pace
iss not taking into account the human aspect of it.
And you talk about the airports and look, I've actually
noticed that they're a little bit less hardcore now at
Auckland Airport anyway. But at least back then there was

(43:33):
a person that you could discuss it with. You could go, hey, listen, mate,
I'm here, but I'm just of this person. You can
see them. They're wheeling and God, they've got too much luggage.
They're wheeling their trundler over. They're going to be here soon.
And I think that's an important part of parking enforcement
because we are a city. We're all members of the city,
we're all community, we're all trying to make it work.

(43:54):
And if you feel like your city is working against you,
it causes a great deal of resentment at Low's morale,
and I believe at Lowers productivity.

Speaker 16 (44:04):
I tell you, I tell you one thing, guys, I
absolutely love and I come from the north. Sure, I
don't even bother having a meat poke have a meeting
in town. I do not even go in and park.
There's no parks, and then it's like for the first
hour and all the rest of the bollocks. So what
I do is I catch that park and ride nor
short bus. I think whatever it's called, it is snificent.

(44:25):
The greatest thing with built in the shot.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
Yeah, and things like that are great, Like I thoroughly
support things like that and that those are sensible solutions
to problems.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
Yeah. Do you know that the behavior that I'm seeing
from at now is the same behavior that you see
from Wilson car parks, and we all know how I
hated Wilson Car Park. That they hang around waiting for
you to be one minute late before they sting you
with this infringement that apparently is are fine, but that's
the sort of behavior that at are doing now, just
screaming around in these cars with multiple cameras, just trying

(44:56):
to sting everybody.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
Yeah, and talking about the CCTV situation, they're saying they
apply discretion and compassion, we're appropriate when when they and
that they have experience parking officers reviewing the footage. But
you don't. You can't apply that that kind of compassion
and humanity that you need looking at footage after the event,
and you can't apply that kind of logic zooming around

(45:19):
at pace, just drift netting citizens and pinging them willy nilly.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
Mike, Yeah, you're a good man. Thanks for giving us
a buzz.

Speaker 12 (45:28):
Thanks.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
Yeah, last time, Mike, Oh eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty is the number to call quick text here. Oh
my god, just walked in to hear your conversation. Got
a court fine a couple of weeks ago, which added
fifty five bucks for a parking ticket I never received
thought it was a scam ring the court. No, it's
for real. Apparently eighty cent two notices for the ticket. No,
they didn't. First I knew about it was the court

(45:52):
fine beepers.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Is that applying discretion and compassion? No, I don't think
it is.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
Well, that's the other thing, you know, now that you've
got all these CCTV cameras pinging probably me for speeding,
You've got your forty k limit over here on Nelson Street.
I'm sure I've been pinged before, but I'm going to
wait two weeks to get those tickets, So I don't
know how many tickets I'm going to be, you know,
getting in my letterbox in two weeks time. It should
be instant that I get a ping on my phone saying, hey,

(46:17):
we got you.

Speaker 17 (46:18):
Then I'll stop.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
I'll stop speeding.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
Am I wrong?

Speaker 7 (46:21):
Well?

Speaker 2 (46:22):
I think I think what's wrong as a forty kilometer
our speed limit on Nelson Street, I mean that's insane.
I mean, you definitely want to be driving slowly around schools,
but down a free flowing one way with four lanes,
I think forty kilometers now is absolutely ridiculous. But that's
a totally different issue.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
Yeap oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty love to
hear from you on this. There's thirteen pass two.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
You're new home of Afternoon Talk and Taylor Adams Afternoon Call.

Speaker 5 (46:52):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk said, be it's.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
A quarter past two. We're talking about the CCTV ticketing cameras.
There was a gentleman adjoiner, David Burnett, who got stung
six times in the space of a month after he
was court parking for a brief time loading up his
tools in Auckland, CBD.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Yeah, so no empathy is showing, no gray area, just
someone looking at some CTV footage and just pinging someone
when they're trying to do their job. Cruel, very cruel,
treating your citizens like enemies.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
That is not fair play. Yeah, texts coming through here, ayatay, guys,
tell Matt to follow the rules simple, or he can
join the ranks of law breakers and lean even further
down an unknown path for most folk in New Zealand.
And that's all of a text, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
Yeah, so I'm a lawbreaker because I think that a
guy that's parking on Federal Street to pick up his
gear when he a joiner picking up his gear and
getting pinged five times when there's absolutely no other way
for him to execute his job and help develop the
Central City of the Central Business District. And when he complained,

(48:08):
they and they didn't take the ticket off. So I
don't know if I'm the law breaker. I am just
a man with a big, heavily caffeinated heart that is
out for the little guy, out to look after the
little guy and support them against the evil, non caring bureaucracy.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
And that's what we love about you, mate, Colin. You've
recently had some trouble with at.

Speaker 18 (48:31):
Yeah, I'm a liverboard boat a YACHTI over in Martyr
Tira and y Yiki and I'm disabled. And there's a
parking area where people can park the liver board and
you pay a seventy dollars fee and then you get
a parking permit. Now I've got two tickets that I'm

(48:54):
contesting at the moment because they've only just changed the
rules and so now my seventy dollars I've paid for
a parking ticket parking permit is useless as tits on
a bumper because they've got the time you can park,
so they say, if you get a parking permit, you're

(49:17):
right to continuously park there. Now I'm disabled, so I've
got a disabled ticket in my window as well, and
so I've got two tickets that I'm contesting at the moment.
And I was talking to the lady Julie at at
and she agreed with me that I've been induced to

(49:41):
park there under false pretenses so that then they can
issue me with a ticket and my parking permit isn't
worth the paper that it's written on.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
And when is this coming up? When do you hear
back whether they're going to, you know, hang you for
it or not.

Speaker 18 (50:01):
The car I've got now it's still in my friend's name,
so I can't argue it, and he's going to change
it into my named tonight. And then Julie has said
for me to bring up after that and then they'll
submit what I've said to them. But it's just the case.

(50:22):
To get the parking permit, you have to be a
member of the Mooring Association and that costs you sixty
dollars and then they put you through for a permit
and you have to pay seventy dollars for that. Have
a permit to park. It's by the fuel dock and
there in Martyr it's here and everybody used to park

(50:45):
there when they had that permit, but they've just changed
it where they're going to ticket everybody. And it shouldn't
apply to me because when I paid my seventy dollars
for the parking permit, I was paying for those laws
that are at the time, not for the change laws.

(51:06):
So it's totally unclear. And I don't think they'd lock
me up and put me in jail because of my disabilities.
That have to be a newsmade. But it's just totally unfair.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
Certainly, keep fighting the good fight column.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
I feel for your colin. Hopefully they show the discretion
and compassion that they say they do show. But we're
not seeing too many examples of discretion and compassion being
shown by parking enforcement in the big cities of New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
No, we are not text here, Kiday, guys, the council
driving citizens to park with Wilson Parking. That will kill
the CBD who wants to pay their criminal rates. I
am also on the shore. Visits to the CBD are
almost gone dead. Vibe dead shops too, dangerous at night
from Graham.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
I think they're putting this is my theory, that they're
putting everything into the city rail link and they think
we then that's up. Then that's gonna pump everyone into
the city. But they I don't think they understand that
what they're competing with is the malls, and people can
park for free in the malls, yeah, and do all
the shopping they want, and go to the restaurants there
and do everything they want. Hence the malls being absolutely

(52:12):
rammed and the central business district businesses struggling. So the
whole point of the situation should be getting people to
the businesses and allowing people to do the building that
they need to do. I mean, they certainly have just
massively disrupted the central city of Auckland and Wellington for
the building that they want to do. But this guy

(52:35):
that we're talking about that got pinned by the CCDV camera,
he's doing commercial work and is unable to do it
without getting pinged five times exactly. So I think they
just need to recalibrate their way they see things and
understand that it's not about making money off us and
it's about making things work better for the people and

(52:56):
the businesses and the construction that the city needs.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
Yep, oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is number
to COO. Love to hear from you on this one.
It's twenty two past two.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
Mad Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight on
Youth Talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
It is twenty four past two, Shane. You want to
talk about more parking.

Speaker 19 (53:18):
Yeah, I've got a funny you guys just mentioned in
a minute ago about everything being pushed for the malls.
A particular mall which I won't name, but I frequently
visited in the morning and then in the afternoon I'll
take my son there after school for a library visit,
and on a particular day or on the week, I'll
give a ticket. I went back and went online with

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the company that's involved and did my argument, submitted it
and come back and that was fine. But then a
couple of days later, I've got hit again, and whilst
submitting another one, I got hit again, and then I
got hit again. So I've got four four tickets consecutively
in one particular mall. So I actually went to the

(54:02):
more management and said to them, Hey, what's going on here?

Speaker 15 (54:04):
You know?

Speaker 19 (54:05):
I pop in the morning to maybe see some friends
in the morning, have a coffee, and then in the afternoon,
I'll come back in the afternoon and take my son
to Life because he'll be effectuent there quite a bit.
And he said, so what happens is that the patrol
cars will drive past with their scanners on the top,
and I'll scan in the morning, and then the afternoon
of just picking up your car. And I said, but
even if I part my cant a different place and

(54:26):
he goes, even if that has happened, and it's quite
a common thing that occurs. So I ended up having
to write a fairly extensive letter back to Wilson's because
this company is a subsidiary of Wilson's, to explain to
him that the methodologies there are not good. Because the
mall was actually telling to me that this happens to
a lot of elderly folks. And lucky for me, I'm

(54:47):
a bit of a keyboard wizard and you can find
my way around neck when I have to kind of
resource certain things and explain things. But he the Mortol
management told me that this happens quite a lot to
a lot of people, So you know, yeah, Okay, if
you go to the morn in the morning, beware that
if you do go back in the afternoon, you will
get hit. And it's an eighty five dollars fine, pay

(55:08):
that on time it's one hundred and five dollars. So
it's a bit of a bit of a sad one.
But then the More so I accept them all. What
about pizza places that are in the mall that their
cars up and leaven and come back and are frequently
going back and forth, And he said, well, they get
an exemption, and he's so suddenly enough the More had
to end up fighting for me, and I got an

(55:29):
exemption from the More to part as many times as
I like, And I wasn't asking for any special treatment.
But the concern to me was the folk out there
that's been hit. And the eventually just paid it. But
no argument. That's the sad thing because it's a hard
enough job for these guys to monitor parking infringements. But
again I get that, but when you have a guy

(55:50):
that goes past on a camera that just snap shots
something and then come back a couple of hours and
when an alf through it snapshot shot something, to me,
it's lazy lazy and easy revenue hunting in a sense.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
If you call Shane, that's right, That's what I'm saying.
You're gonna have the human. Whether it's malls or or
the city council's transport agencies, they have to apply a
human to the situation because there's so many gray areas
out there.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
Absolutely good chat. It is twenty seven past two.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons you
for twenty twenty four used talk Sai'd be.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
So sad news. Earlier this morning, former National MP Nicky
Kay has passed away age forty four after battling cancer.
Ka was the first National mpter win Auckland Central age
twenty eight, holding it from twenty and eight to twenty twenty.
Joining us in studio as News talks 'b senior political
correspondent Barry Soper Hayo, Barry, good.

Speaker 20 (56:48):
Afternoon, guys. It was a good segue talking about gray
areas that he came to me.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
You've got some beautiful gray areas, bar So yeah, incredibly
sad news. You had a lot to do with her, Barry,
what what was Nicky Kay like as a person.

Speaker 20 (57:03):
Oh, she was a great person. I mean she was
a kick ass type person that look, you always knew
where you stood with Neckie Kay. And I think all
her colleagues would say the same thing like you said
Tyler at the beginning, that she was the first National
Party Auckland central MP and the history of the seat

(57:25):
and the only one so far. Because the interesting thing
to me was that Jacinda A. Durn always tried to
knock her off her perch and twice Ardern was unsuccessful
and Nicki Kay beat her hands down. And somebody very
senior in the Greens said to me today that if

(57:48):
Nicki Kay had decided to stay on after twenty twenty,
maybe we wouldn't be talking about Chloe Swallbrick as the
co leader of the Green Stone.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
I think she was probably right.

Speaker 5 (57:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
Will that be a big part of her political legacy,
do you think, Barry? I mean, those achievements at such
a young age and in that seat which was been
traditionally labor that what people will remember Niky for.

Speaker 20 (58:10):
Yeah, Well, Auckland is most certainly will. She is very
well known in the city and I think the mark
of the woman is the number of tributes that have
flowed from across the political spectrum. And you know she
was she was a blue Green actually, and maybe that's
why Chloe Swarbrick was so successful after her, because she

(58:34):
really great laid the foundation. Don't forget she was also
the deputy leader of the National Party under the disastrous
period that's fifty eight days. I think it was that
Todd Muller was the leader of the National Party and
that was when they were going through terrible times. But
I think you know, when she decided to step down

(58:55):
from politics in twenty twenty, I think it was a
decision that was made by her that she had done
a lot in politics for a young person. She'd probably
had a gutfall of the place and decide because it
was it was a particularly difficult period for the National
Party and clearly she decided there were better things to do.
She sort of went bush on a great barrier for

(59:19):
some considerable time. Unfortunately, she was back in Auckland when
she died last Saturday. So you know, tributes, like I said,
have been flowing in for this rather wonderful woman.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
So you say she was a blue Green, is that
still a movement.

Speaker 20 (59:34):
In national Not to the same extent was my dear
old late friend Rob Fennick that really got it going,
and unfortunately he passed away several years ago. But Neckie
Kay was very much to the fore when it came
to green issues, and she was respected in her own party.
And the other thing was that John Key has come

(59:56):
out and he said that he talked to her for
several or not several hours, but about an hour and
a half a couple of weeks ago and said, you know,
they exchanged a lot and some of her friend hasn't
been telling me that a couple of months ago, even
though she's had that long battle with cancer, with breast
cancer since twenty sixteen. They've said that, Look, a couple

(01:00:19):
of months ago, she was in fine fettles. She was
the old Nikki Kay and unfortunately went downhill very quickly.

Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
Yeah, So it's an incredibly sad situation. So if she
had so, you know, in that situation here with the
Todd Maller, if that hadn't happened like that, do you
think that you know, and obviously that what did happen
with her health, She seemed to me that someone that
was on the track to truly great things.

Speaker 20 (01:00:43):
Well, absolutely, I think you know, you're always tainted by
leadership spills, and she was very much part of the
Todd Muller camp, although Todd Mullets hasn't done him that
much harm, but she was tainted and I think she
felt it quite strongly. But like in politics, time heals everything.

(01:01:03):
And if she had stuck around, if she's still there now,
I'd guess that she would've most certainly been part of
Chris Luckson's cabinet and because he knew her as well
as did many people are in Auckland Central.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
Yeah, oh, thank you so much, Barry. That's incredibly, incredibly
sad because she was a very very nice person.

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
And well respected on all sides of the isle. A Yeah, Barry,
thank you very much. That is senior political correspondent for
News Talks A B. Barry Soper. Of course, headlines coming
up then we want to have a chat about McDonald's
and Wanakat. It is eight to three.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
You Talks.

Speaker 11 (01:01:43):
It'd be headlines with Blue Bubble taxis. It's no trouble
with the Blue bubble. Prime Minister Chris Luckson says the
loss of former National MP Nikki Ka at the age
of forty four will be felt sorely by many, particularly
those in the party who worked with her and knew
her well. Former National MP Maggie Barry says Kay was
a staunch member of the Blue Greens and an ardent conservationist,

(01:02:07):
and it's hard to believe such a strong, determined person
has gone health New Zealand Commissioner less To Levy says
a new fund to pay for hiring senior doctors won't
solve longstanding health system problems. Napier police are asking for
any information after a person was hit by a vehicle
at the intersection of Latham Street and Bedford Road, then

(01:02:29):
assaulted on the ground about three pm on Monday. Human
remains found and talkuover this month have been identified as
forty two year old Shane Edwards. He went missing in
May of twenty twenty two. Labour says it wouldn't look
to reverse the Coalition government's Hallmark gang patch ban if
re elected. Grower's plan to regrow tons of strawberries and

(01:02:51):
flood hit esk Valley read more at ends at Herald
Premium Now back to Matteathan Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
Twenty four to three, just before we get into our
next topic.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
You've just got to give credit where credits, Joe, because
a lot of people spend a lot of time complaining
about things in this world. But I just went to
we Labs this morning and gave some blood tests that
I was asked to by my doctor, right, yep, So
I did that at nine am this morning. Yeah, and
the results have already come back through. They just got
sent through to me already from the lab, through me

(01:03:20):
and the doctor. Phenomenal. That is a turnaround of five
hours and all. Okay, well, I don't know how to
read them. I mean so far, there's no I'm not
not seeing anything.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
You get texts in the right places.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
Well, I'm not even sure how to read them. But
but you look, I don't have diabetes just looking that's
the first line of it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
Okay, there's good news. Yeah, but a shout out to
the lab. That is phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
That is phenomenal.

Speaker 15 (01:03:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
It is to just suck three vials of blood out
of someone in the morning and by the afternoon the
results been sent through to your doctor. Yeah, that is incredible.

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
So we'll figure out figure out how to read that
report back on your state of health.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
I'll keep you updated. Yeah, if you're interested.

Speaker 4 (01:03:59):
I am.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
I'm interested. I might be more interested than nearly anyone
else in that one.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
Now here's a topic that a lot of people are
interested in McDonald's and Wanaka. So moral and health related
as to fast food should not be considered in a
hearing for a proposed Wanaka McDonald's, the company claim. So
hearings are underway with the Queensdanne Lake District Council as
we speak. So the proposal for the Wonica restaurant drew
an uproar in the small community. In three hundred and

(01:04:24):
thirty nine people submitted in opposition to the plans, but
only six turned up to see the company argue its
case on Monday. A council planner originally recommended the application
for this McDonald's be refused in a written report. It would,
the report said, have adverse landscape and visual amenity effects
on Mount Iron, an outstanding natural feature and was more

(01:04:47):
urban than rural in nature, the planner said, but also
neighboring property owned by Mount Iron Junction Limited was listed
in the government's new Fast Tracking Bill, with plans to
build two hundred and sixty three high density units so
here's what we want one David Chad about And I
read those bits of information from this particular review underway,

(01:05:08):
because if this is relying on the adverse effects it
would have on the landscape and visual amenity, surely two
hundred and sixty three high density gurnits would absolutely have
a big effect on the natural landscape.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Yeah, so what are you saying. So obviously people should
be able to have a say on what happens in
their community, right, Yeah, so you can't complain about people
putting up their thoughts on it. But it is an
interesting one. And what I would say is looking at
the designs for this McDonald's and look, Mount Iron is
an incredibly beautiful I mean, all of Wnica is absolutely beautiful,

(01:05:45):
but you've got to say that Wonica is a commercialized
zone and the McDonald's they're thinking of building is quite tasteful. Yeah,
it looks like the buildings that you'd expect to be
built in that area. But it is interesting that the
moral the moral side of it, because surely that's sort

(01:06:06):
of more of a you know that, as they said,
the type of nature of the rest and is not
irrelevant consideration. So if it had been selling.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
Tofu scramble, no problem in a.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
Beautiful shift building just like the McDonald's. That it'd be
interesting to know if people had the same complaints about.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
It Saint Pierre's, for example, I reckon Saint Pierres would
would have got a clean bill of health and say
come on in. But that's my point is that, And
you know, I've got problems with grimmer Shake. We had
this discussion a few weeks ago. But I just think
it's hypocritical when you look at Wanaka and we're gonna
have some residents and we'll check to them very soon.
But I think it's hypocritical to talk about adverse impacts
on the natural landscape when it is massively developed and

(01:06:46):
still developing, and there's two hundred and sixty three high
density units ready to go in the land adjacent to
where this McDonald is going to go.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
Yeah, but I would say in a beautiful place like Wanaka,
and look, a lot of New Zealand is beautiful and
a lot of it is developed, but you absolutely should
push back on anything that is that is an eyesore
and is gonna and is going to ruin the you know,
ruining looking for a better word than vibe of the area.

(01:07:13):
But that's the only word.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
I can sum it up pretty well.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
Someone will find a word that's better than that, because
you need people to come to Wanica because it's beautiful,
that's the thing. But there's all kinds of stuff in
Wonica already, and I would say because of the potential
pushback from the designs that they've come up with are
very tasteful just looking at them, very tasteful. Yeah, looks

(01:07:37):
looks right in keeping with you know, if they were
building a twenty four story statue of Ronald McDonald and
the world's biggest golden arches, then that would be a question.
But you know, to me, it looks like look like
a nice building.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
Eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty. Love your thoughts
on this one. Where do you sit on a community
pushing back here? What is a legitimate business. Clearly they've
got a right to oppose this particular restaurant, but how
far should those objections be taken by the council. Love
to hear your thoughts. It is nineteen to three back
in the month it's done.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
You take on talkbag matt Ethan Taylor Adams afternoons have
your say. On eight hundred eighty ten eighty news Talks.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
Good afternoon, it is sixteen to three, and we're talking
about this fight over McDonald's in Wanica. A lot of
texts coming through on nine to nine two.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
There's one. I was recently in Rome and Italy, and
the McDonald's there have no big m over their buildings
or in their four courts. It's quite possible to have
McDonald's and it looked like any other building and will
be discreet. I personally wouldn't want McDonald's in my hometown,
but there are ways around esthetics of the big.

Speaker 3 (01:08:46):
M Yeah good text Jamie, you're from Wonicah, Yeah, I
am great mate.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Oh yeah, good good, thanks Jamie, thanks for calling.

Speaker 14 (01:08:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 21 (01:08:56):
The funniest thing was the Tailor.

Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
Wars, the Taylor War, the trailer warde no tell us more.

Speaker 21 (01:09:06):
Well, the third thing is a trailer. McDonald's not welcome
my colleage.

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
The trailer yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 21 (01:09:13):
Mc colleague said to me, I'm gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
I saw that.

Speaker 12 (01:09:17):
Did you did you.

Speaker 4 (01:09:18):
Go to pa?

Speaker 21 (01:09:19):
No, no need, someone already has.

Speaker 12 (01:09:24):
The neat things.

Speaker 21 (01:09:25):
Another trailer arrives McDonald's as welcome. Well, that's got spray,
and then a new trailer arrived. McDonald's not welcome. Then
the mung was sprayed out. All this was on for
about two days. It was so funny every time you
drive past and on the two trailers. Yeah, really good loud.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
It's a funny place, monicle. I absolutely love it. I've
been going there since I was a kid because I
grew up in Dunedin and we holidayed in central Ottaga.
But for such a peaceful and beautiful place, there is
a bit of tension amongst locals, isn't there Jamie.

Speaker 21 (01:10:01):
Oh yeah, yeah, we'll take them the day. There needs
to be a little of hard working count But now
ooh it's changed.

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
Yeah, And what's your view on it, Jamie? Do you
want the meccas there or not?

Speaker 21 (01:10:12):
Well, but it's like you've made a really nice building
and you know, why should we get to myself? And
there was super part about us. It's just a great
the BT at the next round of that. Ow can
you get into a great great keldic here. Welcome to
Welcome to town, Celtics. I mean the McDonald's's got nothing

(01:10:35):
on them.

Speaker 3 (01:10:35):
Yeah, Hey, Jamie, how long have you been in Wonica?

Speaker 20 (01:10:38):
For?

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
How long have you lived there?

Speaker 4 (01:10:40):
I brought up.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
Here, you know, yeah, because because I've got a friend
that's well, I've got a few. I've got a few
friends in Wanica, and they say the most rampant people
and Wonica about the purity of Wannica are the people
that have moved there in the last five years.

Speaker 21 (01:10:56):
Shark meat, righteous worriers. I tell you, McDonald's there go great,
Like we all like a better McDonald's every year, and
there's nothing wrong with it. And he's gone out to do.

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean, you're right about that
gas station as you drive into the main street of Wanaka,
and nothing against that particular gas station, but it is
a little bit mankey looking compared to what they want
to do with that McDonald's.

Speaker 21 (01:11:24):
Oh, it's just shocking. But the day that Celtic Suld
put them, we just couldn't believe it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
Well, yeah, because it would be kind of different if
it was on the main street of Arrowtown, you know,
if you just shoved a mess of McDonald's on the
main street of Arrowtown, you know, and that would be
that would might be a bit different. But you're in
an area it's already developed up and it's got a
lot of more development coming around it, and I want
and some of the moral objections to it seemed to
be around the the the you know, the type of

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food that's being served there. But Jamie, you're a lifer
and Wanica and you want to be able to get
some mackers.

Speaker 21 (01:11:58):
Yeah, And I just drave past around that right then.
I'm on a truck right now, you know. And you've
not even really gott to notice that it's that's right
angles to where you go, and it's like it's going
to drive back. And I just found out today you're
gonna you're gonna plant it out with the trees. I mean,
not a pensive at all. Should we miss out?

Speaker 4 (01:12:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (01:12:19):
Everyone else?

Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
Yeah, Jamie, you're a good man. Thanks for giving us
a buzz.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
But you would have to say that the pushback in
places like Wanica is potentially one of the reasons why
they're going to make such a beautiful McDonald's there, if
you know what I mean, If there was no pushback there,
then then maybe the McDonald's would have been a twenty
four story high golden arches, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:12:40):
Yeah, Well, I was just thinking about your Arrowtown example there,
and I'm with you. I wouldn't like to see McDonald's Arrowtown,
And I'm just trying to think why I feel that
way is because Arrowtown doesn't have at this point lavish,
you know, gaudy kind of housing development that has erupted.
It's been protected from there. Wannaka hasn't been protected by there.
There's been massive development in Wanica community and in calling

(01:13:03):
time on that development, and these these businesses coming into
town at Wataca to me is a bit hypocritical.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
It's shoving a massive McDonald's drive through on Buckingham Street
and the arrow Town bowling the fork in tap.

Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
Yeah, that wouldn't mean good luck no matter how much
shift you used.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
Favorite pub of the fork in tat.

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
Yeah, great place and the blue Door. Yeah oh eight
one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call
love to hear from you on this is a McDonald's
and Wanica that bad? Or do the locals have the
right to push back and kick him out of town?
It is eleven to three, the issues.

Speaker 5 (01:13:37):
That affect you and a bit of fun along the way.

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
Matt Heath and Tayler Adams afternoons you for twenty twenty
four you've talked said.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
Be eight to three. We're talking about the fight over
McDonald's and Wanica. Mike, you're disappointed in the residents.

Speaker 15 (01:13:53):
Yes, I am a good subject. Boys. I've going to
ny me for quite a while thinking about the snobs
of Wonnica. I want to prevent McDonald's coming there.

Speaker 4 (01:14:02):
Now.

Speaker 15 (01:14:02):
I heard Matt said, you spent a lot that you
grew up and toned and so, Matt, you'll know that
traditionally a lot of business people and professionals have had
holiday homes in Wonica and a lot of them retire there.
So a five other sort of people that are trying
to stifle get them at business, which I really like.
I think that great business McDonald's. So we've got three
ind leed and were soon to get another one in

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Green Island. Great great business, great service, and are very
very popular.

Speaker 7 (01:14:29):
Now.

Speaker 15 (01:14:29):
Those of the sort of people are tired people and
farmers that moved to Wanica. I want to We're quite
happy to have their own business run undernead and I
want to stifle it hit in my business like that.
I think it's pretty hypnocritical.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
Really, Yeah, speaking about McDonald's indoned and Mike, I remember
when the McDonald's opened down there. There was a parade
down the street. I remember as a kid going along
to it. I'm so excited. I couldn't believe it was
ethne Well.

Speaker 15 (01:14:54):
I prayed to get in, or I prayed to protest it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
There was a prey to get in and a parade
to celebrate it down down George Street. I waited, waited,
I waited for two hours to get in.

Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
We love a past food reached on opening. Don't we
remember when pop up?

Speaker 4 (01:15:10):
Exactly?

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:15:11):
And are you and one? Okay, Mike, you're and donners.

Speaker 15 (01:15:14):
No, I'm in Moscow, but I I like to use
McDonald's a couple of times a month, and I think
they're a great business. And when when you think about
the development of Wanaka, it's been huge run by the
Dippy family or Ellen Dippy, and it's the place of
really pushed ahead in that three part development. And I
just I just can't figure why are people so against McDonald's.

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It's just it's mind boggling. I've seen the picture of
the what they want to build this so it's a
lovely building and somebody mentioned a service station, Well, what's
what's what's what would you compare the nice version of
the McDonald's I want to do and a crappy old
service station. It's just it's the thing that just people
just people just don't like McDonald's doing summer. But I'll

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tell you what they're doing, and.

Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
They certainly do.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
They certainly do. I mean there are people that mentioning
and this is this is a serious issue and a
real issue around McDonald's thing. You you you can have
a beautiful but you will get a lot of McDonald's
packaging around about. But you could, you know, and McDonald's
can do something about that that that you can put
the rubbish bins in there and they can do a
little bit to clean up around the area. But you know,

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can you necessarily blame business for the disgusting habits of
their patrons for dropping the rubbish around. We need to
do another one of those beer tidy Kiwi campaigns.

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
We certainly do that a great campaign.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
I've been seeing people just willing nearly littering, and I'm
wondering if people don't know that you're not supposed to
litter anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
It's going to be a good topic.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
Are you tidy Kiwi?

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
Mike, you live in Wonicah, Yes, I do Do you
want to see this McDonald's or.

Speaker 22 (01:16:49):
No, Well it's going to happen. But you know what
they've been talking about bringing McDonald's into Wantaka for about
twenty years, been pushback and push back and pushback. We've
got a massive population here now compared to what it
was when I first came here in ninety two. To
groast in the last five years a phenomenal. Everyone wants

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to live in Monika or Queen'stown.

Speaker 4 (01:17:13):
But you know, the.

Speaker 22 (01:17:15):
McDonald's been pushed back all these years. Suddenly they're coming
in a bit more pushed than ever, more support than ever.
And of course there's going to be people saying, no,
we don't want McDonald's, it's bad for your house, blah
blah blah. Well it's your own choice, isn't it. You
can choose whether you want to eat that food or not.
But my issue really is this positioning. About half a

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k down the road across the brow on the left
hand side, there is a huge new commercial area with
a minor teen megastore and a new World supermarket. There's
still plenty of empty properties there. Why don't they put
us in there?

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
Yeah, it's funny, I think McDonald's is always because it's
a bright, shiny object, it's often the subject of controversy.
There's something about McDonald's that that that very much excites people,
but it also.

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
Bracks them up, certainly does.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
Yeah. Someone here is saying that I travel to Wonica
regularly and most of the bars and restaurants there are rubbish.
McDonald's will probably be the best food in town. That's
about harsh. I was a Wonica very recently and had
a delicious couple of meals there.

Speaker 3 (01:18:20):
Yeah, the tourists want it though. That's what it's for,
isn't it. McDonald's knows that they wouldn't be setting up
this restaurant if they didn't think they'd have massive patronage.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
Those scody snowboarders want their McDonald's.

Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
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Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
Hello, Happy Tuesday to you, seven pass three, having a
great discuss about this. Oh, here we go. He's getting
more caffeine into his system. So if you didn't hear
me mentioned this last hour. So I'm looking at a
can of red Bull, a can of what is that masi?

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
Musashe. I'm not getting paid for these.

Speaker 3 (01:19:23):
By the way, and triple expresso.

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
You can take some blame from overcaffeination because you've got
me those coffees.

Speaker 17 (01:19:29):
Yeah, yeah, well you asked for them. Yeah, I'm still
with us, mad. I think you'd like to wind me
up like a little toy and then unleash me. I
think I think this is I think you can take.
You can take some blame from cafination, although.

Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
You enjoy that? Is that any good I can add here?

Speaker 9 (01:19:45):
But it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
They're not giving me any money.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
And grape flavors of musashe energy.

Speaker 2 (01:19:49):
Beta al A nine amino acids, B, vitamin zero sugar.
When am I reading the whole thing out? Can you
can they send the news talks? He'd be some money
for me reading that out.

Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
You're hitting the gym after this or something. Is that
a pre workout, This is news talks.

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
He'd be talkback as a workout. I'mning I'm burning calories
on this issue around the McDonald's and Wonnica.

Speaker 3 (01:20:10):
Yeah, well yeah, speaking of burning calories, we have been
chatting about the concern over a potential McDonald's and Wanaka.
So the hearings are underway as we speak, and the
fast food giant has their representatives there argue when the
point of why they think a McDonald's restaurant should be
established in Wanaka. One of the big concerns from residents

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is about and I quote this restaurant would have adverse
landscape and visual amenity effects on Mount Iron, an outstanding
natural feature, no doubt about that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
It is about man and beautiful Mount on and Walk,
absolutely beautiful.

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
But here's the kicker from the McDonald's legal team. A
neighboring property owned by Mount Iron Junction Limited was listed
in the government's new fast Tracking Bill with plans to
build two hundred and sixty three high density units. So
if that's not a blight on the landscape, if McDonald's restaurant.

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
You've also got the big service station there. But one
thing I do have some sympathy with around this whole
kind of thing. And we must say that the McDonald's
that they're looking at building is very esthetically pleasing. I
don't think it's gonna besmirch the beauty of Mount Iron
too much, but as the amount of rubbish people half around,
people have around, and I'm always amazed by that. I

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think we got a campaign because when I was a kid,
and I think most of my life I've been absolutely
drilled into me to be a tidy.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
Kiwi, keep New Zealand beautiful, Keep New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
Beautiful, be a tidy Kiwi. I think that's an Should
we get that campaign going again?

Speaker 3 (01:21:40):
We need some more public shaming.

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
Can we?

Speaker 20 (01:21:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
What was the public Chad? Do you see that first episode,
that episode of Madmen? And it was it was they
went to have a picnic. And this was before in America,
before and the world that they had the idea of
not littering. That was quite a new idea. And they
went and had their picnic out on a beautiful area
and the bush with it, you know, around there, and
then they just left everything and got in their car

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and drove off. Yes, that's what people used to do. Yeah,
it's a you know, and it's particularly look keep every
part of New Zealand tidy. But someone that's on holiday
in Wanica and just has the rubbish out the window
of their car. I mean that is they are the
worst of us. They are the worst of us. Shall
we start the Matt and Tyler zb Afternoons Keep New

(01:22:27):
Zealand Beautiful? Campaign?

Speaker 3 (01:22:29):
If you see it out how do we do it?

Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
How would we do that?

Speaker 3 (01:22:31):
If you see it out there, people, you take photos
of it, send it through to us and we'll name
and shame, name and shame dirty flight tippers.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
Yeah, the untidy kiwis.

Speaker 15 (01:22:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:22:41):
Anyway, back to McDonald's and Wanticer Bret, you were there.
How do you feel about this restaurant?

Speaker 15 (01:22:46):
Yeah, guys, yes, I'm a local.

Speaker 4 (01:22:49):
I've been here about seventeen years. If a local probably can't.

Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
I think seventeen years. Did you say seven or seventeen years?

Speaker 4 (01:22:57):
Seventeen? I know you've got to be like forty. I've
never really got that made I pay rates. I'm a
bloody local. Yeah, so there, so now I reckon bring
it all day like it's hilarious. You'd laugh if you
saw whats come on? There we have these parked up
trailers opposite the site of the buildings, and you out now,
some saying we love you McDonald's, other saying we hate

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you McDonald's, some saying come on another same bugger off.
It's hilarious. Mate changes by the day, but none of
this really surprises me. This is a typical Wanaka thing,
you know. And they say is and the stoppers So
we kicked out the movie studio. I think it was
going to happen at Croadbridge Farm. The airport's been dumped.
Now McDonald's has been dumped, so what do we want
to do? Stick in the dark ages. My attitude is

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simply this, I personally don't eat McDonald's and i'd probably
never see a foot in the place. But that doesn't
mean I don't like McDonald's, and that doesn't mean I
don't think it was a wonderful thing to create job
opportunities for more locals, for more school kids, for more
university students who are here part time, and for someone
to grow and develop businesses, you know. Like my attitude

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about living in Wanica is that you're here through the
time that you hear and it is a beautiful place.
And like I said in Myself Privileged, you here, but
I'm not going to reflect on what it was in
the past, and I'm not going to put a full
stop on what I think it could be in the future.
Be here, enjoy your time here for what it is. Look,
it's like Queenstown, isn't it. Queenstound's developed to the hill,

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but it doesn't take away the beauty of the remarkables
to the lake, Guarniet Peak, you know, everything the rest
off for their And it's the same with one of man.
I will still be there, the track will still be
there to walk up. The lake's still here, the mountains
are here. I just sent we just got to get
it and just let it be, let it flow, you
know what I mean. It'll be done tastefully. Yeah, beautifully.

(01:24:43):
People can make a choice from their own personal health
things if they want to step foot into MacDonald's and
buy the food. We're on you if you do. I won't.
It's not my food journey. Yeah, but yeah, I'm.

Speaker 9 (01:24:55):
All for it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:56):
Well, yeah, I mean that sounds like a very reasonable
opinion bread, But I think that that does also need
to be a little bit of pressure on people that
are building new things too, as you say, keep it
aesthetically please. So if there's no pressure out of all
and there's no you know, no expectation that, then then
you will I'm not saying McDonald's will do that, but

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then then you can have I saws that are built.
And there's plenty of beautiful places in New Zealand that
have had I saws built in them and and made
beautiful places, not as beautiful as they could be. But
I think that that McDonald's because they understand that they're
building in Wunica, that they are making something that looks
like it fits in more than the service station that's
very close to it.

Speaker 3 (01:25:36):
Yeah, well, Brett, you would agree with that if they
If McDonald's wanted to set up a restaurant ride on
the waterfront of Lake Wonica in front of all those
beautiful homes. I think most people Wonnica would say, nah,
not the right place for a restaurant. But that's not
the case here, is it.

Speaker 4 (01:25:52):
No, not at all. I wouldn't want that if it
blocked my view of one because it's worth the Jim Bucks,
isn't it. We let's be honest. But I mean, but
you just think where they get to put it is
at the base of Mount I I mean, you know,
Manland is beautiful, but mean like there's a vet planet
over the road. I mean, it's not that aesthetically beautiful
bear and they will make it really nice. The partings

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are going to do there. I have no doubt. We
need to have a little bit of trust here. They're
not going to be fools. I mean like they're going
to do this as a beautiful aesthetic building. It'll be
shift and all that drama that we have downe there
in Central Daga, you know, makes it look all rustic
and all that touchy feely stuff. It'll look amazing. So
have a little bit of trust, let it go and
let's be positive rather than a negative. Bring it all on,

(01:26:34):
bringing Burger King and KFC for choices like big deal.
Bringing it's the big deal. I mean, the world's moving on,
you know. I mean, hey, I tell you what you
laugh and want to know. This is the tesla's capital
of New Zealand, you know, so there is there is
that white wealthy elitism and Wonka to think we I

(01:26:54):
want McDonald We don't want McDonald's here, but we'll leave
McDonald's into Meaden or somewhere else, but don't bring it
here because we're special people. There's a bit of that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
I saw something quite amazing when I was want to
bring you know, the very famous tree of course in
the lake beautiful. Yeah, And I was there with some
friends and we went down to look at the crowd
of people, not to get a picture in front of
the tree, but to have a look at the people
waiting to get a picture in front of the tree.
It was quite phenomenal. I think there was fifty people

(01:27:24):
in the queue, and I think there was more people.
I was in France recently, in Paris, and I think
there was more people waiting to get a picture of
themselves in front of the tree than there was in
front of the Arc de Triumph.

Speaker 4 (01:27:34):
Managed to willow tree in this and growing in the lake.

Speaker 3 (01:27:37):
Yeah, the same up on roy Peak actually, and it's
a bit of a grunt up there. But man, when
I went up there and I could see nobody, and
then you get over the top where they've got the
beautiful wee Instagram photo area, and holy moly, there was
a line of about one hundred people. I thought, this
is crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:27:53):
Anyway, let's just listen, let me just finish by saying
one is a beautiful place. It's a very special place,
and everyone's welcome here. Came guys, everybody coming by McDonald's.
You know they having McDonald's here isn't going to take
away the beauty of God's sake.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
Yeah, Hey, what's the other eateries around? Because a couple
of people in texting and going at all improvement on
the food there. But I think there's some great restaurants
in Wonica. When I was last down there, I thought
there was lots of options.

Speaker 4 (01:28:18):
Are there's the whole you know, there's a whole range. Yeah,
there is lots of greeting. You do we need to.

Speaker 3 (01:28:24):
Be yep, exactly. You're a good man, Brent, Thank you.
I just had a look that they've got a subway
in Wnica. No pushback against the subway. Dominoes love their dominoes,
all right, Okay, see that's a big mac.

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
That's what I reckon. I think McDonald's. You know, I remember,
you know a while back when they were when were
you know, when there was the more Morton Spurlock documentary
what was it called Supersize Me? And you know, obviously
when you go into the methodology of that. It was
absolutely ridiculous. Yes, but there is something about McDonald's that
makes it the lightning rod for people's anger around things

(01:28:58):
like this. And you know, in this case, you could
argue their anger that they're snobbery around around the type
of establishments they want. They put that on McDonald's.

Speaker 3 (01:29:08):
I mean, it's because it's the big, other, big guy. Right.
If you think of fast food anywhere in the world,
you think America is first and foremost, So they are
the ones that has to take the slings and arrows
on the badness of fast food. But I agree with you.
I feel for them.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
Yeah, if someone's just building a big fish and chip
shop there, would they have been as angry about it,
I don't know, and the food would be, you know,
potentially more nutritiously problematic.

Speaker 15 (01:29:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:29:32):
Oh, eighte hundred eighty ten eighty is and I'm going
to call nine two nine two. It is a text number.
How do you feel about the people of Wonica? Some
people of Wonica pushing back against this McDonald's restaurant. It
is seventeen past three.

Speaker 2 (01:29:45):
Yeah, so we're talking about this new McDonald's that's been
proposed in Wonica that's getting a bit of pushed back
from some locals is a trailer war, with trailers prone
against being wheeled in and spray painted. And some people
have been saying that it's the local other establishments that
will lose out because of it. But the sex here
are nine two nine two. Hi guys, you only have

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to be down the road from Hannam area is I
love in Ononica had a great cafe there which I've
sold with Meccas. It will mean we can get something
to eat after nine pm. As most places closed, finding
staff will be their biggest issue. That's why most people
sell up in Wantica. That's interesting, isn't it?

Speaker 3 (01:30:19):
Good text? Yeah, Greg, you're in favor of Mecca's and Wonica.

Speaker 9 (01:30:24):
I certainly am. Yes, Yeah, that's hell. Look I heard
listened to Jamie before he was going on about BP
and stuff. And if you drive down the road from BP,
you see a great big orange Mega Mighty ten. Next
to that or across the road is a great big
red warehouse. So you know, if they're worried about different

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colored buildings, you're drive in to air it. Albert Town
is a big yellow four square down the main street
of oneaka two. There's a big another big yellow four
square you're.

Speaker 2 (01:30:56):
Right, and bigarens mega might a ten.

Speaker 9 (01:31:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:31:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:31:01):
I lived there for many many years and then and
then moved away and then came back down there for
another you know, quite a few years. My children grew
up there and they all went to McDonald's and Queenstown.
So it's a regular thing that all the children who
lived there and even us, you know, we'd go for
one hundred and thirty k round trip and it could

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be at you know, ten o'clock at night. These guys
got one o'clock in the morning drive over the Crown
Range to go and get McDonald's. And you'd never see
the Crown Range or Kadrona Valley with rubbish all through it.
One thing I quite laughed at when they first came
on the news. This girl came on the news TVNZ

(01:31:45):
and said, oh, you know, we're right against this McDonald's.
The very next night there was an article advertising october
Fest and Monica. So they're not really wanting to have
food there, but they'd love you to go there and
drink as much alcohol as you can. When they go
on about their ethos of you know, we are nice

(01:32:06):
and clean and green, Yeah, they're also drink a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:32:10):
They certainly do drink a lot in Central Otago. Yeah, look,
I've drunk a lot in Central Otago.

Speaker 4 (01:32:14):
That's sure.

Speaker 3 (01:32:15):
Yeah, Greg, thank you very much, mate. Oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighties number.

Speaker 2 (01:32:19):
It's funny. Some of the text three were describing it
as a footloose town. Yeah, what a great movie there,
and the remake was actually pretty good as well. But
footloose towns.

Speaker 3 (01:32:29):
Yeah, yeah, the me is not happy and there's no
music or McDonald.

Speaker 2 (01:32:32):
Are they going to bound dancing in Monica as well?

Speaker 3 (01:32:36):
That's coming next. It is twenty three parts.

Speaker 10 (01:32:38):
Three Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons call oh eight
hundred eighty eighty on yous talk s B.

Speaker 3 (01:32:49):
Good afternoon, twenty five Pars three. Some great tea's coming through.

Speaker 2 (01:32:54):
Boy oh boy, the text machine is fired up with
some pretty funny stuff. Look, the people of Wonica are
the Aucklanders of the South Island. A bunch of helmets.
That's that seems that I don't know the Aucklanders. Yeah,
great people, Aucklanders absolutely yeah. Yeah, was a Texas Well,
what do you call yourself? Tally, You're you're a can.

Speaker 3 (01:33:12):
I'm a South Islander mainlander. I grew up in Nelson,
but Christach is dead in my heart. I'm just a
man in many cities.

Speaker 2 (01:33:18):
I've been accused of being a blue Lander that's heart
still underneeden, but has lived in Auckland so long. And
you know that happens when you support the Blues whenever
they're not playing the Highlanders, you become a blue Lander.

Speaker 3 (01:33:31):
Now, Jack, you reckon one should have a McDonald's.

Speaker 13 (01:33:35):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, afternoon guys. Yeah, I saw this on
the news last night. I was watching it with my
son who's nineteen and gentlemen, I said, that is the
most elite, bloomer thing I've ever heard. That must be
an incredibly slow.

Speaker 2 (01:33:49):
Day in the news and on the Tyler afternoons.

Speaker 4 (01:33:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:33:56):
Absolutely, I mean, look, they're going to do it nicely.
It's a it's a it's a state for most people
in the world. It's a it's a tourism hub. You're
traveling with young kids and things like that. There, boys, McDonald's.
We had McDonald's in Italy, which sounds sacrilegious, but my god,
it was good after pasta and pizza for three weeks.

(01:34:19):
So you put a McDonald's here. Wouldn't be surprised if
there's a KFC there and a year being New Zealand's
most popular class food.

Speaker 3 (01:34:28):
I'll tell you who does a great KFC Japan. When
I went to KFC in Japan, Oh that was good chicken.

Speaker 2 (01:34:34):
I tell you who does a terrible KFC. The United
States of America did they Their KFC is terrible, and
the UK does a terrible KFC as well. In New
Zealand and Japan, we're leading the world in the akadecky
for a chicken.

Speaker 3 (01:34:46):
Yeah, yeah, no, But I mean a lot of people
are agreeing with you, Jack that as you say, if
it's gonna look the part in relation to mountain and
it looks like it is looking at their plans and
it is a tourist hub, that's what tourists want. And
a text made the point before that a lot of
one acre at the moment closes down at nine pm.
So if you'll drive into the city, you've come from

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a different country, you're gone in there and there's nothing
to eat. That just makes us look bad, doesn't it.

Speaker 13 (01:35:12):
No, it's absolutely it's a no brainer. You mentioned before
about madmen that's seen and I think one of the
early episodes. Yeah, yeah, great, great TV. Probably one of
the best series ever, character.

Speaker 2 (01:35:26):
Ever, phenomenal.

Speaker 13 (01:35:27):
So I remember that lidly and it's just so jarring
to see that wanton throwing rubbish around. It couldn't con't
Yeah anyway, yeah it didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
It didn't used to be a thing to non listener litter.
You know. Now we've got take only phone puts, take
only photos, leave only footprints, But that wasn't a thing
in the sixties. That was something that was brought in
through the seventies and eighties. And it's interesting. A text
on this, guys, here is one for the Matt and
Tyler keep New Zealand Tidy section. I want used to

(01:35:59):
red Ford focus with two white stripes, stop at the
Blue Mountains Road lookout and dump seven rubbish bags about
three weeks go dirty, lazy, shameful humans. By the way,
if you're brad enough, the rego is war.

Speaker 3 (01:36:15):
We're going to get the legal team on that one
that has the key news in the tiny seature.

Speaker 2 (01:36:21):
I freaked you out there, but are we willing to
in our campaign to keep New Zealand Beautiful be tidy?
Kiwi's are you willing to name and shame and read
out number plates.

Speaker 3 (01:36:31):
We'll go have a chat to the legal team very shortly,
but good discussion, and we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:36:35):
Posting pictures on Facebook and Instagram timeand where are you
willing to go for this campaign. I'm over cafeinated as well.
I've just got a wee bit too crazy there. But
that was a good discussion, Matt. I think most people
coming through that are all four of McDonald's and Wanaka,
would you agree, I'd say probably eighty twenty in favor.

Speaker 10 (01:36:51):
M q.

Speaker 2 (01:36:54):
L two seven to nine.

Speaker 3 (01:36:57):
Right, It's been a good run, mate, I've enjoyed this,
but she's all over now one hundred and eighty ten
eighties and number to call. We do have another topic
coming up very shortly after the headline.

Speaker 2 (01:37:07):
This one is very very close to my heart. It's
around etiquette at the movie theater. I love going to
the movie theater to what I love going to the movies.
There's nothing like it because there's no distractions, You're in
the dark, and there's absolutely no better way to enjoy
a movie than in the movie theater except for when
people are breaking the basic rules of etiquette. And this

(01:37:29):
is in the news at the moment because of people
singing and the Broadway musical Wicked, which has been turned
into too a movie now and people are going along
to the theater and singing, and a short Lix Street
actor has complained about it.

Speaker 3 (01:37:41):
Yep, and they say, I quote just hear me out,
if you go into the movies to watch a musical,
you should not be singing. You can laugh, clap, giggle,
even gasp, but singing is just an absolute no.

Speaker 2 (01:37:52):
Yeah, so we want to talk about that, but also
the general rules etiquette around going to a movie theater.
And I've got some pretty strong opinions on this.

Speaker 3 (01:38:01):
You certainly do. Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten
eighty is the number to call. It's bang on up pass.

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Now back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (01:39:21):
Thank you, ray Lean. It is twenty six to four
and here's what we want to chat about for the
next twenty five minutes or so. Behavior at the movie theater.
This is on the back of some people getting a
bit irate at those singing along to the new musical
movie Wicket.

Speaker 2 (01:39:37):
Have you been to the musical Wicked. No people rave
about it, and I think this is the version of
the movie versions getting reason to good reviews. Yeah, you know,
sort of in the eighty eighty percent range.

Speaker 3 (01:39:48):
But I guess yes, singing along in a musical.

Speaker 2 (01:39:52):
M's that's an interesting one. I mean, it's better than
singing long at a non musical.

Speaker 3 (01:39:56):
I guess it certainly is. Yeah, if you're singing along
to Gladiator two, you be a bit like, what was
this guy dealing?

Speaker 2 (01:40:03):
Oh man, whenever they had Gladiator two, when they had
the refrains of the original soundtrack, Boy, that got me.
That stirred me up more than the rest of the
movie did.

Speaker 3 (01:40:11):
But here's one for you. So, I mean, we're going
to talk about is it okay to sing along in
a movie like Wicked? But if I don't know, if
you went to the movie theater to go watch le
Mis when it first came out, if the audience started
singing throughout le Mis, I would tear my hair out.
I would walk out in the first ten minutes and say,
see latter, I'm not I'm gonna be I'm not going
to be a part of this. And I know Russell
Crowe was a pretty bad singer, but that to me

(01:40:32):
would be torture.

Speaker 2 (01:40:33):
How dare you say anything bad about our Russ the
greatest actor of all time? You just need to go
to a gladiator too to see how great Russell Crowe
is an actor in comparison, even though what's the Name
or what's the Name is pretty good in the other one.
But yeah, let's not get into my Russell Crowe fan.
And I love the Man. I absolutely love the Man.
I think it's the greatest act of full time. But yeah,

(01:40:55):
I mean, and people are pointing out here you have
to sing and dance and throw things at the Rocky
Horror Picture Show. That's right. And I've been to some
of those screenings of Rocky Horror Picture Show being to
two where you sing along, and that's fantastic. But one
thing you will notice when you go to the Rocky
Horror Picture Show and you sing around for the first
that you always forget how bad the second half of
that movie is the first half of the Rocky Horror
Picture Show is just so good, so many great songs,

(01:41:17):
such a good time. Yeah, second half goes massively off
the rails. In fact, no one can even remember the
second half of the Rocky Hero Pitcher Show. But there
was also the Bohemian Rhapsody, the Queen Buy Up movie
that came out and that did really well at the
box office, then had a second run at the box office,
especially in Japan and in the UK of sessions where
people went along to sing along. And I went along

(01:41:39):
to that one of those, and that was really great
because everyone was there knowing that was the reason, and
there was something so cool about everyone being in the
theater singing along.

Speaker 7 (01:41:48):
But that is.

Speaker 2 (01:41:49):
Sanctioned, yeah, you know, and maybe there will be sessions
of Wicked down the track where people go, oh, well,
I love this movie so much that these are the
ones you go along and you sing along to.

Speaker 3 (01:41:58):
Yeah. Well, when the Boss came in when we were
having a chat about this topic, and he took his
daughter along to the Taylor Swift concert movie and all that,
and it was premarily young girls in the movie theater
along with people like Jason win Stanley as a father,
but all the girls would get up and turn it
into a concert in the movie theater.

Speaker 2 (01:42:16):
Jason Winstanley is a bigger fan of Taylor Swift.

Speaker 3 (01:42:18):
Then he was up there dancing with his daughter as well.
But to me, I like that because that is part
of the atmosphere and everybody knows what they're getting into.
But just if I go to Wicked and it's you know,
the general consensus is you don't sing along, and I
want to hear Ariana Grande sing not you know, some
old fella sitting next to me, then that's that's my

(01:42:41):
stance on this. I don't want to hear John belting
away when aria Grande is a great singer.

Speaker 2 (01:42:45):
What if the persons sitting next to you with someone
like me that has the voice of an angel and
actually enhances your experience performance.

Speaker 3 (01:42:52):
If it was you, I'd leave the movie. I'd leave
the theater straight away.

Speaker 2 (01:42:55):
I think there are like, there are some some rules
of movie etiquette. Joy mean to share my rules of
movie etiquette. Maybe people can add to them.

Speaker 3 (01:43:05):
Yeah, are you going to give a top five or
a top three?

Speaker 4 (01:43:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:43:07):
Well, I want to give away may people can have them.
I'll give the first one, okay, the first one. I've
got five, but people might be able to suggest them
on nine two nine two or eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty. No phones, do not check your phones, Do
not check your text. You might as well turn on
a torch. Obviously you can't talk on a phone in
a movie that you should be tasered for that absolutely,

(01:43:29):
But even just checking your phone and turning the light.

Speaker 3 (01:43:31):
On, that's a huge one.

Speaker 2 (01:43:33):
I mean, you can't sit through a freaking movie without
checking your phone and just for just the moment unleashing
light into movie theater. I mean you've got to think
about it, like if someone just got out of torch
and started shining it around you go, you're an insane person.
If you're not the usher and you had a torch,
people would think you were mad. But yet people people
check their text and there's suddenly this huge amount of

(01:43:54):
light just beside you.

Speaker 4 (01:43:55):
Ow.

Speaker 3 (01:43:56):
Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty What is the worst
behavior that you see in a movie theater? Love to
hear from you on this one? Nine two nine two
is the text number. You've got another what twenty that
you want to get off your chest as well?

Speaker 2 (01:44:06):
Man, Yeah, one hundred percent. So I'd just like to
read this text out on nine two nine two up
Rustler Rock I grew without one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (01:44:13):
It is twenty wonder four.

Speaker 1 (01:44:17):
Matt Heath Tyler Adams taking your calls on oh, eight
hundred and eighty eight Matteth and Tyler Adams afternoons news talks.

Speaker 3 (01:44:24):
They'd be we are talking about bad behavior in the
movie movie theater. This is on the bank of Shortland Street.
Anctor Ava Dakarbi, who is a massive fan of Worker.
But she says, and I quote, just hear me out,
if you're going to go to the movies to watch
a musical, you should not be singing. You can laugh, clap, giggle,
even gasp, but singing is just an absolute no.

Speaker 2 (01:44:45):
Yeah. So we're getting together a list of the movie etiquette.
There's a few coming out here of a Yeah, like,
I think we can all agree that there's no need
to be making love in the theater.

Speaker 3 (01:44:56):
Depends on what.

Speaker 2 (01:44:57):
Top of theater.

Speaker 3 (01:44:59):
That's true, But yeah, I do. I think that's pretty
common sense making.

Speaker 2 (01:45:01):
Out in the back row of the theaters, all right,
isn't it.

Speaker 9 (01:45:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:45:04):
I mean, as long as there's not too many people
around here.

Speaker 3 (01:45:06):
Yeah, I think. So this one to hear from Lisa.
Take your rubbish out with you? Come on, people, And
I agree, you don't take your rubbish out.

Speaker 2 (01:45:13):
I didn't know that you had to. I thought people
came through and cleaned your rubbish up.

Speaker 3 (01:45:16):
Oh, that's just the polite thing to do. I don't
want your Scaby popcorn on my seat when I come through.

Speaker 2 (01:45:21):
If someone comes through and cleans it before that. I've
never gone into a movie theater and had Scaby popcorn everywhere?

Speaker 3 (01:45:26):
Isn't that just the polite thing to do?

Speaker 4 (01:45:27):
Though?

Speaker 3 (01:45:27):
Is you take your popcorn?

Speaker 2 (01:45:28):
It probably is?

Speaker 3 (01:45:29):
Yeah, you never do.

Speaker 2 (01:45:30):
That's funny because I've just been campaigning to be a
tidy kiwi and then I'm thinking, I'm not in the
movie theater, I'll leave a hell of the thiss on
my seat. I just figured they came through with and
I've seen it. They come through with powerful vacuum cleanersh.
But yeah, I guess it's a nice thing to do
for the person that's running a minimum wage job cleaning up.
I'm going to do that from now. I'm going to
take my stuff out. I've never got about it.

Speaker 3 (01:45:47):
See becoming a better person, James, how are you?

Speaker 14 (01:45:50):
Yeah? Seep all behind you talking?

Speaker 2 (01:45:53):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 14 (01:45:56):
Especially I had a couple of cases a few years
ago where I got sitting in front of a one
person who'd actually been to the movie beforehand with someone
and he got yapping, you know, or you've got this
great seat coming up, young.

Speaker 2 (01:46:16):
That is not on.

Speaker 3 (01:46:18):
Did you tell them off? James? Did you say pipe down,
there's a movie going on?

Speaker 14 (01:46:22):
Yeah? Well no, actually the person next to me did.
But you know, people talking during the movie, or or
the dreaded packet of chippies.

Speaker 3 (01:46:36):
Yeah, carry on. The dreaded packet of chippies are that
when they open it at the most?

Speaker 2 (01:46:45):
Yeah, I'm James. I think I think one of my
rules for going to the movies, and I've really instilled
this to my kids, and it was a problem at
the at the Quiet Place movies. But you you can
eat your chips and you can eat your popcorn, but
you've got to do it in it's fine and a
loud action movie that's loud all the time. But if
it's a movie that's got quiet and loud, you have
to eat your chips. You have to wait to eat

(01:47:07):
your popcorn until it's a loud but until some piece
of actions happening. And so in the great movie is
Quiet Place movie? The third one was fantastic, But I
was just sitting there with my hand waiting, waits, poised
to one of the aliens attacked and then I was
shoving it in my face. Otherwise it's in a quiet movie,
just someone munching away throughout as punishing.

Speaker 3 (01:47:27):
Yeah, plenty of great teachs coming through A nine two
ninety two guys worse behavior, three teenagers being drunk and annoying,
spelling drinks, spelling food and talking throughout the movie. Halfway
through the first half they got asked to leave. They
were a complete pain in the behind.

Speaker 2 (01:47:44):
The worst thing you do is go to the movie
after you've had a few drinks. The worst place to be, Yeah,
because you want to talk and you want to socialize.
So never go to a movie after a few beers.
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (01:47:56):
There was one movie that I saw and we'd had
a few beers beforehand, Lord of the Rings, The Fellowship
of the Ring, and oh because it was so long
at the end because I had a few drinks, I
really needed to go to the bathroom. And that's like
fifteen different endings. It just goes on and on and on.
So never again.

Speaker 2 (01:48:13):
I went to a screening at Wetter Studios of one
of the the first Hobbit film, and so it was
at weirder studios, and they had a big party before
with red wine and lamb and such, and so everyone
had quite a few drinks before they went in, and
I turned around. At one point during the screening, everyone
was asleep. And then I saw all their reviews in
the newspapers and stuff, all five stars, but they'd fallen

(01:48:35):
asleep in the movie due to the red wines.

Speaker 3 (01:48:37):
Yeah, polite, question mark, get bloody real? How woke a you? Tyler?
Pretty worke twenty five bucks a ticket? And then what
they charged for confectionery they sure us how paid to
pick up my rubbish? Is pretty hot on that one.

Speaker 2 (01:48:50):
Yeah, thanks for that, Goose. Sorry, what happened happened to you?
In Top Gun?

Speaker 3 (01:48:56):
Yeah? Hi, Tyler and Matt republic etiquette. Don't forget about
concerts too. We endured at crowded house in Auckland, several
drunken young women and a couple of boys right behind
us talking loudly, drunken spelling drinks all over us. This
is a common theme when standing up dancing. Several times
we politely asked them to stop yacking. Luckily they didn't

(01:49:16):
fall on us. Singing at concerts is okay, but aggravating
if they are drunk.

Speaker 2 (01:49:20):
From Trevor Whenever. Yeah, I had a similar thing. I
went to a Cure concert and there was these two
people talking all the way through it. I've got a
mate I took to another concert and he was just
telling I was really loving it, and he'd had a
few drinks. He was just telling me how boring the
concert was all the way through. I think you just
got to read the room on that you get. There's

(01:49:41):
parts of concerts that are really raging and ripping it up,
and you can pave and whatever way you want, But
there's also parts of concerts as well. It's kind of
like eating the popcorn where you can't be talking all
the way through it because you're the if you enjoy
the music.

Speaker 4 (01:49:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:49:55):
The standing one's interesting is because we found this at
the Coldplay concert when we were in the seats and
there was one woman who was standing up having a
great time dancing, but I could see the people behind
us We're quite angry at that, so I didn't feel
that I could jump up and start dancing because I'd
caught the look in their eye. But that's a hard one,
is that. I mean, at a concert, you want to
get up and have a dance. I think you can

(01:50:16):
get up and ever dance you reckon, that's all right,
I think you can. Yeah, be damn for the people
behind you. Just jump up and.

Speaker 2 (01:50:21):
Dance, especially if it's in the songs that are designed
to dance to. Yeah, one PC, you can get up
and dance. Yeah, I mean it's like those people. I
was at an All Blacks game not so long ago,
and me and my mates jumped up to celebrate a
try and someone behind us went so down. If you can't.
If you're at the All Blacks and you don't celebrate
a try, then you're not You're not enjoying the All Blacks.

Speaker 3 (01:50:42):
Yeah, this takes from John Getta. Guys, I waited for
forty years to see Talking Head Stop Making Sense Again.
We now live in Blenham. I took time off work
to go and was the only one in the whole
cinema and I loved that I could sing, dance, fart
whatever I wanted a great afternoon Or am I just
getting old and intolerant of others?

Speaker 2 (01:51:02):
That is a fantastic movie. That is one of the
great concert movies of all times. Stop making Sense and
tasting when did it come out, Well, it came out
a very very long time ago and it's just been
re released. So I came out in the eighties, I believe.
But then they just had a whole you know, rejeg
Redigitize remix in it, and I went on to see

(01:51:23):
it when it came out.

Speaker 5 (01:51:23):
It's so freaking good.

Speaker 3 (01:51:25):
Yeah, this is a controversial text. Hi, guys, do not
bring your babies or toddlers into the movie or concert.
They will inevitably wake, cry, get bored, yell, and disturb
everybody else. From Peter.

Speaker 2 (01:51:41):
On two minds about that, because we're all children at
one point. We're all babies at one point, and people
have to get out and about into the community. I mean,
it depends what movie you're going to, you know what
I mean. If it's Poor Patrol, you're going to be
hard pressed to If you're going on to Poor Patrol,
you're gonna expect to see some kids there.

Speaker 3 (01:51:56):
Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (01:51:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:51:57):
Yeah, maybe not so much if you're going along to
I don't know, Gladiator too.

Speaker 3 (01:52:04):
Yeah, big your movie. Yeah, oh eight hundred eighty ten
eighty love to hear from you about what is the
worst behavior in the movie theater nine two nine two
is a text number. It has bang on ten to.

Speaker 1 (01:52:14):
Four, the big stories, the big issues, the big trends,
and everything in between. That Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons
You for twenty twenty four US Talk, said B, said B.

Speaker 3 (01:52:27):
We're talking about bad behavior in the movie theater. Bernard's
what is.

Speaker 4 (01:52:30):
It for you? You just joined the show?

Speaker 22 (01:52:35):
Thank you?

Speaker 4 (01:52:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:52:36):
Yeah, got your ladder clear?

Speaker 4 (01:52:38):
Yeah yeah. So I was there.

Speaker 24 (01:52:40):
I had a day off work a lot but early
this year, and I've decided it's just got nothing else
to go, go for a warder uptown and we walked
into a movie theater saw that they had The Sun
Western Kevin Costner movie showing one of his kind of
spend alone movies. I'm sort of a fan of Western
gone forward style kind of think, so thought walker. I

(01:53:02):
walked in and was really pleased to find there was
no one else in the theater, and so I sat down,
prepared for a visual feast. Tap and then five minutes
just try to starting. Two people walking and sitting in
the back row, and I showed to the middle rope,
good seat coming, like yeah, and the movies started and
then like within a couple of minutes minutes. It was

(01:53:24):
obviously two ladies were determined to have a good old
chin wag about everything under the sun and av a
beat of wine and the process, and it just it
just went on and and I turned around like five
minutes and and I just said, kind of quite loudly,
but not aggressively, because it's to where the Jesus thing,
I didn't want to look rounding. I said, are you

(01:53:44):
kidding me? Are you exteriously going to do this all
the way through the movie. And the kind of like
sneered at me a little bit and went quiet. So
twenty minutes and I guess they just started up again, yeah,
and away, and I just really pussed, really yeah, I
brought the cardinal rule that you said not to do, met.
I took my phone and I rang the man. I said,

(01:54:08):
how two people in here, and I'm going for my
person in here, but they're out here the real rackets
and basically running.

Speaker 4 (01:54:13):
Could you come in and sort them out?

Speaker 24 (01:54:16):
So apparently someone did come in, and long story short,
they went quite for another five minutes and then and
then racked up again. And so I was in that
sort of predicament where I said, well, I could I
could just leave, and they're just ruining it. I thought, stuff,
I'll stick it out, wait until the end. It turned around.

(01:54:36):
They snapped out the door quicker than you can believe,
for obvious reasons, and and I went and had a
chat to the management. So it's not much of a
funny story, but I guess what, it just annoys me
a little bit that you know you can you can.

Speaker 3 (01:54:49):
Yeah, well you paid good money for a movie to
have some you know, a couple of women.

Speaker 2 (01:54:53):
Yeah, in a way unbelievably selfish.

Speaker 24 (01:54:58):
I came back to the management manager after that because
the foot occurred to me.

Speaker 4 (01:55:01):
You know, I could do it to.

Speaker 24 (01:55:02):
Complain about someone and they don't and they quiet down
for five minutes, but then they basically give you the
fender and keep going on.

Speaker 15 (01:55:10):
Tono coming. So I said to the manager and that.

Speaker 24 (01:55:12):
Thing, I said, what do I think you need to do, buddy,
is if someone does make you play and you sort
of talk for someone, don't assume that they're is just
going to play there at that point. Yeah, at this point,
you know, they stuck to me so well, I suggested.
The outcome was a recommendations, you're going to the off
copick and double check that they're a cute by moros
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:55:32):
Yeah, exactly, Ye, thank you so much for your call.

Speaker 2 (01:55:35):
So here's my my list of rules for the movie etiquette. Okay,
no phones, do not text, might as well turn on
a torch if you're going to do that. No talking
even whispering to your mate. You can't let your kids
run around or jump on seats or kick the back
of seats. Only popcorn, eat chips or crumble bags. And
the loud Bits don't bring any stinky food from us
with So that's my complete list.

Speaker 3 (01:55:53):
That is a great lisk.

Speaker 2 (01:55:54):
Yeah yeah, So the podcast is out there today. Great
chats on Cops in the City, Dirty Parking, CCTV, wannaka
Macus Snobs, and movie Etiquette The meton Jerry Metton, Tyler
ops Man Tally after his podcast wherever you get your
podcasts will be out at about an hour.

Speaker 3 (01:56:11):
Yeah, thank you very much for today. I really enjoyed
the discussions. We'll do it all again tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:56:16):
And hey, be a tidy kiwi and give them a
taste of kiwi from me.

Speaker 1 (01:56:31):
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