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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Simon Barnett and James Daniels Afternoons
podcast from News Talks edb.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Chats, laughs and the best calls.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
This is the highlight reel with Simon Barnett and James Daniels,
towered by News Talks ED.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Be nice to see you, James. You look fit, you
look well. Thank you. How about this for the height
of irony? What last Friday we were discussing on the
back of a Facebook post that went nuts online in
Canterbury about whether it's okay to pick daffodils from the
public where this huge discussion it blew up online. I
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go on Father's Day with my children and grandchildren to
the gardens, the Botanic Gardens and Christchurch. Right, Sam, my
eldest daughter, says, let's go and take some photos within
the dafodils with all the kidsick.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Definitive gardens that they're famous for it.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
And it's beautiful. There's like a million daffodils. Now, this
is hand on heart gospel truth. What There was lots
of deafinitil heads that had been packed by obviously little kids,
and there was trample marks around the big beds of
daffodils where people were having the photographs. That's a little so.
Miller is three, Zeb is like one and a half.
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And I gave them some daffodil heads off the ground.
I ordinarily would have picked them, but because there was
so much pushback on front of the not picked dafitils,
you get hung, drawn and courted.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
But these were daffodils that were broken off and on
the ground. Gave them to the little kiddies. They go, thanks, chief.
Well Zeb didn't because he can't talk, he's one and
a half. Then this woman, what bowl, she Karen, comes.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Up and she remonstrates and says, don't you give those
children like full noise, really saying that to you? To
me right? And I said, ah a, we didn't pick them, right,
So were you listening to the radio on Friday?
Speaker 5 (01:56):
Lady?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
We didn't pick them on the ground. And then my
daughters arcd up a bit and they said, hey, excuse me,
we didn't pick these, and she would not look back up.
She was just like and then afterward said we didn't
pick them. After my daughter had said, my children, I've
told them we don't pick they're not picked.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Let it go.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
They were lying on the ground.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
She goes up to Zib who's one and a half
and says, now, don't you pick those flowers and points
of finger at this guy? She what, and he's one
and a half and there is old duck, old duck. Seriously,
I mean, you don't. They just don't do that.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Well, no, so what did you do to that? Because
I would have aked up as the grand parent.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I just walked away because I thought, well, it's like
road rage, this is staff rage, and I didn't want
to be a part of it, or you should.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
You should have wrung me.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
But my kids sorted. I just like, I get that
there are people that go you don't pick deviitils, and
there's appropriate ways to speak the man. It was just
it was just so ironic that we were talking about
it on Friday and then it happened and I didn't
pick them.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Don't go out in the woods today.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
You want to come to Christ's folks a beautiful city,
but don't touch the damvidils And whatever you do, whatever
you do, you can ram raid, whatever you like, just
don't peck a Davidal The.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Highlight Reel with Simon Barnard and James Daniels news Talk said, be.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
This is really quite alarming if we know how important
education is. We know it is. You know, the future
of our children depends on them being well educated. Problem is,
there's a conference underway and Wellington at the moment where
education bodies are trying to discuss how we get people
interested in the profession of teaching, and there's just this
critical shortage at the moment. How do you do that?
Speaker 4 (03:36):
And there are fewer and fewer students enrolling to become teachers.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Hello, Holly, Hi, how are you great? Thank you very much?
Are you a teacher?
Speaker 6 (03:44):
Yes, I've taught an early childhood, mainstream education, and I
am now working in special education.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
All right, you've got the whole gamut there. Well, let
me ask you this question from the get go. What
got you into teaching?
Speaker 6 (03:56):
I wanted to teach since I was just a little girl.
I remember going to my primary school and having the
most amazing teachers and an amazing principle and thinking, yep,
I want to teach. And I just left straight from
school out the bat. I was straight to UNI thirty
six now and I've been teaching in classrooms full in
part times since I was eighteen.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Is it what you thought it would be.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
No. Why I think one of the biggest issues in
classroom is for teachers and attracting people to the profession,
is that classrooms come with kids who have a lot
of baggage, They have a lot of trauma. You get
neurodiverse children and your classrooms who are funded and get help.
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But a lot of my classes, especially when I worked
in Low gesl Areas and SR ten schools too as well,
I had a lot of trauma kids who've got no help.
So as a teacher, there's not a lot of time
to teach when you're managing all those behaviors. You're trying
to help these children, to build a relationship, to connect
with them, and then there's really nothing left in your tank,
you know, to carry on with for the rest of
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the day.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
It sounds like really hard work, Hollies. So do you
regret making this call?
Speaker 6 (05:04):
No, not for a minute. I love children and I
love teaching, and I know that I make a difference.
I burn myself into the ground most days. I work
in special education now, where I have a class of
six and I have a team of tas, and special
education is a whole nother ballgame. But you know, when
those children make both small strives or you know, they
hold your hand, or they trust you, or you build
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enough of a relationship with them to be able to
get them to want to write their name, or to
get them to want to read. Those are the small
things you've got to take away from it. And I
think another one of the problems to is the attitude
that some teachers have with an education. You know, we
have enough problem outside of education with people bagging us
and saying, oh, we get a holidays and you know,
bringing us down, but there are teachers within the profession
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who treat it the same. And we really need to
be able to promote ourselves because we're not getting the
promotion from the community, we're not getting the promotion from
the Ministry of Education. We have to be the ones
out there saying, you know, this is a worthwhile profession.
Use it is hard, know that money's not great, you know,
like you are going to struggle and you are going
to be but it's worth it at the end of
the day. And I don't think we have enough of
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that within the educating community. We need to be out there,
you know, sort of promoting ourselves.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Absolutely, I think that's going to leave you with what
would use you. I'll leave you with one text. You know,
this is the thing that annoys me. One hundred and
three thousand dollars, twelve weeks holiday year, a few short days,
teacher only days.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
Not bad, really, I don't earn one hundred and three
thousand dollars a year. Come and do my job. Spend
a day with me, and then you'll understand. I don't
even I'm not going to tell you what I am,
but it's nowhere near that much.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Thank you, Holly very much for your thoughts. The highlight reel,
we're talking about the prevalence of the gray divorce. In
the last ten years, it's shot up nearly ten percent.
Forty percent foot yeah, forty forty percent of people are
getting divorced in the fifty plus range, so they call
it the gray divorce. We're sort of asking is it
worth it? Like have you done it? And go, oh
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my gosh, what have I done? Or are you thinking
of quitting it? And why when you've been through all
the hard part of life? Hi am oh hi.
Speaker 7 (07:08):
I was married for forty years.
Speaker 8 (07:10):
I had four adult children, and my husband basically traded
me in for a younger version. I found it just
devastating and a real trauma, and.
Speaker 7 (07:23):
I wondered, you know, my future was unccertain because I
was just an office administrator. I didn't earn heaps of money,
so financially as well.
Speaker 8 (07:31):
As everything else, that was really really difficult.
Speaker 7 (07:36):
I'm sure he had male menopause. Actually, yeah, not happy
with what had happened to his life in the past
and just what I thought the grass was.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Greener elsewhere do you have children?
Speaker 7 (07:47):
Four adult children and now eleven grandchildren.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
What was their reaction, Well, it was.
Speaker 7 (07:54):
Pretty shocking because he betrayed me over three years. He
kind of held me in limbo by suggesting we might
get back together again, which was probably the cruelest part
of the whole situation. So they didn't talk to him
for a couple of years. Also of them didn't talk
to him for a couple of years.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
This may be awkward for you, Anne, and don't answer
if it is too awkward. But is he still with
the woman that he left you for?
Speaker 7 (08:21):
Yes he is, he is, but he doesn't love in
the city.
Speaker 8 (08:25):
That I live any longer.
Speaker 7 (08:27):
But I have to say, I just want to tell
you that I joined a group called Bodo Superresident Divorced
Support Group. They are unique to Wellington, although there is
another similar one in Cavity. And I would say they
saved me really, because you know they're a grief program basically.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Yes, yes, And I get that, Anne, I mean I
get that that you poor thing. Was the woman that
your husband left you for? Was she a younger woman?
Speaker 7 (08:59):
Yeah, she was ten years younger and she worked in
his office, so you know he found the love of
his life in his office.
Speaker 9 (09:05):
The usual story.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
I mean, I can imagine for you, and I'm putting
words into your mouth here, but I would imagine the
blow to your self confidence, your self esteem must have
been immense.
Speaker 7 (09:16):
Huge, absolutely huge. I think I cried for two years.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I'll bet you did.
Speaker 7 (09:22):
And I do want to say this group.
Speaker 8 (09:24):
What's it called again and widow Separated and divorced support group?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
This is a very strong word, but I'm going to
use it. Do you hate your husband for what he did?
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Not anymore?
Speaker 7 (09:35):
I probably went through all those feelings. Now I'm very
happy on my own really. Yeah, I discovered my own
niche in my own life. I've gained a lot more
confidence since I did that course. I've got my own
voice now, So in a lot of ways, it's okay.
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I mean, we have Christmas together with the kids and grandchildren,
so I have to do that for my kid's day.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
And you're a very gutsy woman, a brave one, and
good on you, and I.
Speaker 7 (10:08):
Must cover how strong I was.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Yeah, well, much respect to you. I can't imagine what
it would be like to have somebody leave me for
somebody else. That must be so destroying. So you are
a brave, courageous person. I sometimes actually have thought about
this in my situation. I think it's almost worse than
losing somebody, because my wife said that to me years ago,
and she said to me, you know, if somebody's unfaithful
to you, it's almost worse than death, because with death
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they love you, but you can't have them. They've passed away.
But in a divorce or something like your situation, and
your husband he was still there, you were able to
have them, but he said I don't want you, and
that's that's just a crushing blow. So hearts go out
to you and it's the rejection.
Speaker 7 (10:46):
Yeah, the rejection, and I set for free. Who was
the worrow? Once I said to your husband still loved
you when he died. It's what you were saying.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Thank you for calling in and thanks for being so
honest with your story.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Good luck.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
The Highlight Reel with Science James.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
The Highlight Reel with Science James.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Now you know I'm an animal guy. We've had in
our family. Yes, I reiterate. Two cats, two dogs, two rabbits,
and a chinchilla. My kids love animals, like the sort
of crazy cat ladies.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Four daughters, crazy cat ladies.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Good Lily's got she bought off Timu or something backpack
which is like an aeronautical backpack. It's got a clear
perspect screen at the back with holes in it, so
she puts the cat in the backpack when she goes
to town. I kid you not. The other day, we
all live in the same subdivision. I was driving home
from work without a word of a lie. I drive
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into the subdivision. James and I live close together, and
I see three gorgeous women. It's my three daughters. Samantha's
pushing the pram with her new wee baby, our Jodi,
and she's got and then next to her is Sophie,
and Sophie's got zeb and the pram and mealer in
the pram and then Lily is beside them and she's
got a pram but she doesn't have any children who cats,
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and how you see it? Promise she had the cat.
They had the kids exactly and the pro and I
drove past them and I couldn't I couldn't even wave.
I was like, I text them.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
That wasn't me going.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
You look like the nuttiest family in the neighborhood neighborhood
and I'm not your father, and I just, I mean,
Lily is just so nuts about this cat of hers.
It's it is a beautiful cat. It's impossibly beautiful. It's
one of those rag doll Oh, it's the most beautiful cat.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
How much did you pay for it?
Speaker 3 (12:40):
One thousand dollars? And thank you for saying that, because
I did pay.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
I just knew you would have.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
It was her birthday present. But I sort of was thinking,
you know, something from the two dollars shop, and we
got a thousand dollar cat. And this is the other
thing with it. It gets better. It's not allowed outside
because you can pick up all manner of I don't know,
stuff that those precious cats get because the princesses. So
you can't go where the common cats go, You've got
to go where precious cats go inside.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
We've got one of them too.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Yeah, it's a shorthaired oriental. I think it's called.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
And it doesn't go outside.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Oh hardly. No.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
I raise it because there's a story in the Herald
that popped up today written by Greg Bruce. It's an
opinion piece. They went to the SPCA, he and his
wife and they adopted a cat. The cat's gorgeous. They
love the cat. The cat's become part of the family.
Turns out the cat has a myriad of health issues,
not the least the cat's depressed.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
How do they know cat's depressed?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
I don't know. Won't make it's bed in the morning.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Vet vets are on a roll, you know. Hey, they
can say, oh, the cat's doing this or the cat's
not doing that, and we you know, you can't ask
the cat how are you feeling? The vet just says,
is suffering from anxiety. That'll be nine hundred bucks. You're
exactly right, that's what the cat's got. This, Greg Bruce
got The cat's got depression, depression and pathological anxiety. So
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it's going to cost thousands of dollars. To get pheromone
diffuses food therapy and antidepressants therapy.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
The best moment from the week. This is the Highlight
Reel with Simon Barnett and James Daniels, powered by Newstalk
z emb.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
We're discussing gambling on the back of the story about
a guy who's very fit, active, former raugy player at
a very high level, came to New Zealand and no
sex with his family, got involved in gambling just from
one machine. He said he was never into gambling. He
put twenty bucks into a machine on a pokey. It
paid out with his second spin twenty six five hundred dollars.
From that moment, he said he was hooked and he
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lost absolutely everything. His wife and his kids left him,
lost his house, lost his job, and now he's trying
to rebuild his life. And so we were asking about
the psychology of that. How does that happen to you?
What happens when you play the game? Where does the
stimulation come from? Is it just the buzz that you
may be around the corner from the next big win.
Speaker 10 (14:55):
Hello Berry Ohio, I just give you a classic example
of a compulsive gambler that I sat and watched over
a number of hours. Was this poor old lady. I'll
say poor old lady because she was poor when she finished,
but she was in the seventies. And we sat and
watched her, and she was going backwards and forwards to
the bar, getting twenty forty here and there, and going
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and putting it back into the pokey. And the pogies
are set up to give you a week bit of
a feed, just enough to keep you interested. She went
up and her withdrawals were increasing and increasing, and sold
their losses, and in the end she went up and
threwout six hundred And how do I know that. I
went and asked the barman, Oh my god, and she
put that whole lot through and she walked out crying
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because that was her rent money, your food money. And
I saw, Christ, you know, something's got to be done there.
While I was out wild, and I walked up to
that particular machine and pulled it over and put my
whole nail boots through the glass. And I was barred
instantly for doing that.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
I'm not surprised.
Speaker 10 (15:56):
It's got to stop, because these barmen they just let
it carry on, and they know that these people spending
their pension and once that's gone, I've got no and
they've got nothing.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Yeah, well it's a salient point. Barrye, thank you for coin. Hello.
Speaker 11 (16:12):
Yeah, I think it gets worse.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Guys.
Speaker 11 (16:15):
My son's just come back from university and you know
all of his mates have piled in from Dunedin and
christ Church and Wellington. And in a flatting situation, picture
this your audio pizza and in your box of beers,
and you have your sixty inch TV in the middle
of the living room, and these boys will bring up
their various online Poky accounts. One particular flat six boys.
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The flats down fifty grand this year.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
What this is a student?
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Yeah, Uni student.
Speaker 11 (16:43):
Pack of students, six students community. They're down fifty grand
in total.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
What are they betting on?
Speaker 11 (16:48):
It's just just online flots online Pokey's and it's flat
after flat after flat after flat down there.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Is it going on their student loan? Can they do that?
Speaker 11 (16:56):
You'd assume. So one lad's down nine grand, the other
one's down five and they're round sort of. And then
and then they can go online and ban themselves from
these websites so that they get ambal on. So you know,
a handful of them have now gone on and done that.
But you know that's crippling at eighteen nineteen and it's done,
and talking a little bit to them about it, it's
done out of a place of boredom. They're sort of
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sitting around, not much to do, like we might have
sat around and played cards. Yeah, they just it's someone's
turn that night to be the person that's going to
spin their account, and they all sit around and live
the ups and downs for that guy for the night
he loses. Next night someone else loads their account.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Yeah, what a bizarre story.
Speaker 11 (17:35):
Online gambling in student flat.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
That is terrifying, terrifying, Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Got highlight reel o.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
The days of the Family GP over this text Test
says they're well and truly over. We couldn't get into
our family GP, even though we'd been seeing them for
twenty five years. It was always just so busy. So
it's gone. Now we just go to Randoms when they
can take us. Tony says, I've been seeing the same
GP for forty years. Way back he delivered our three children.
A family GP is critical eron Now your husband's a GPREC.
Speaker 9 (18:05):
So we're living in breathing it. I work in a
GP practice myself, and I think that claim that the
family GP is dead, I think it's it's pretty on mark,
but I think there's still hope.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Why is the family GP dead.
Speaker 9 (18:24):
It is a lack of resources. We have growing communities
and we have also growing health conditions. People are living longer,
people are requiring more. There's just more to do, more vaccinations,
to offer, you know, more preventive care.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
So so it's as simple as basically overworked understaff.
Speaker 9 (18:44):
You could absolutely love to go back to being able
to just seeing their own patience. And it still happens.
Don't get me wrong, it still happens. Largely if you
come in with you know, an issue that can be
dealt with by a nurse or a long term conditions
nurse or even a healthcare assistance that will happen. But
the GP is always reading the notes. They're still seeing
what is happening along the way, so you may not
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see it, but they are still your family GP. And
if you are proactive, then you make an appointment in advance,
like say you have ten different medications or so you
have asthma diabetes, you need to be proactive and make
those appointments in advance that you see your own GP,
because the problem is people are coming in with semi
urgent issues and they expect to see their GP and
that's not going to happen. Then that may be dealt
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with by whoever's in the urgent care dropping section of
their GP practice, but it's not to say that your
own GP doesn't read about that. Then they're looking through
their inboxes. So it's still there. It's definitely not what
it was, But I still think it's worth having a
GP and calling them your family GP because they do
still care. They're trying, they're just waiting for more GPS
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and they're practice. It is a really tough job and
there's a lot of GP burner out there.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
It is huge.
Speaker 9 (19:52):
It has been in the media and it is due
to resources.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
You know, they're not making it up, are they?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Chats? Laughs, and the best calls.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
This is the highlight reel with Simon bar On It
and James Daniels powered Bundy's talk Sai'd be.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
So this couple, young couple buy a house. In the
house and the roof cavity, they discover two hundred and
thirty two thousand dollars hidden in the roof space. They
reported to the police because it's like a bit unusual.
The police think, I think, The police say, I quote,
the money is probably tainted as the proceeds of a
criminal activity, most likely drug dealing. So they've applied for
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the money to be seized and handed over to the crown.
As happens with the process the police, the police have
the couple say, hey, we're not the criminals. We didn't
know when we bought the house that the money was
in there, so kind of fined as keepers. Yes, So
that begs the question, what's your threshold for handing money?
And I mean I'd probably hand in two hundred and
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thirty two thousand dollars as well, because you'd know that,
you know, you might be of a pillow put over
your head at night. Well, what's your limit? Like if
you found a twenty dollars note on the ground, would
you hand that to the police.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Well, I'd look around to see if there's anyone around
that possibly had dropped it.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Oh, we all do that? Would you handed into the police?
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Yeah, no, no.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Fifty no.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Hundy ummm, possibly a hundi. Possibly depends on the circumstances,
like who's around at the time you know.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Who's around. In other words, if you've seen so, that's
sort of like situational ethics.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
But mind you, I haven't actually had that happen to
be honest, have you.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
I've found a twenty dollars note and I've kept that.
I would keep one hundred dollars. I wouldn't go to
the police for that. I reckon no, because I reckon
the police would look just sideways again, like, yeah, we've
got bigger fish to fry than your hundred bucks.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
All right, Well, if you'll do that, I'll do that
because I'll just say, simon, did it highlights Thursday?
Speaker 3 (21:59):
I haven't heard that phrase for a long time. Thirsty Thursday? Man, right, Wednesday?
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Peak of the week, Thursday, Thirsty Thursday, old school fry
yay and all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Did you used to indulge in thirsty Thursday? Was it
something I used to do?
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Hell to the year?
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Did you?
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Yeah, that was a big night. And I think it
came out of it being payday for a lot of yeah, right,
and so they'd go to the pub straight after they
got their pay back.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
In the days when you got the cash in hand,
did you get it in hand like an envelope.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Yeah yeah, well yeah did you not? How did you
get paid? Oh you're a bit younger, Yeah yeah, you
got a slip. Say well some businesses and probably some
businesses still paying cash. I imagine.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
I can still remember my first gig. I think Isaaca
Debt with Ready in New Zealand back in the day.
You were the breakfast announcer on the Show's that then?
But do you know how much I got paid for
the year? Year was that? What year was?
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Gosh, well I started when I was seventeen. I'm fifty seven,
so forty years ago. Eighty four?
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Was it?
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Oh well, don't do the man now? Yeah? Right, you
know how much? I can remember how much you were
earning for the whole year? Yeah, seven six hundred dollars gross, yep,
that's what I got played seven six hundred yep, and
fifty bucks a week to rent. I was a macaroni
cheese guy.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
I didn't have two minute noodles ended. They that's what
James is.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
The breakfast announced to say he was earning a squallion dollars.
We used to talk about wasting it. He was too,
but somebody would say, hey, have you guys ever tried
mountain biking. Next day, James tunes up with a mountain bike.
Bread's baking, you man. Have you guys seen the BMW
I three three weeks later? James, you're exaggerate. I'm not.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
I did, I did enjoy myself.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Have you guys ever grown marijuana? Next day? Do you
want to buy a BMW.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
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Speaker 3 (24:07):
The white beat industry be more regulated? Like at the
moment there are people selling a kilo of white bait
one hundred and fifty bucks a kilo, And there's ads
on Facebook, Maketplace and various other social pages where there's
just like bags of white bait stacked up. Someone's gone
and just basically harvested the river. So should it be
more regulated? Yeah, hello Craig.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Yeah, I'm from the Bow of Bloody. And the main
thing about the white bait numbers is the set nets,
the long South and sop nets down here and are
up here from you guys. And they also have a
wing that they can set a wing off the side
of it because there's a certain size for your net
the entrance and they put another two meters off the side,
so they catch everything including our the little gha Alfred's
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small tuna, eels and mullet. Everything goes in and it's
stuck in a he nugging type net, you know. Yeah,
so that's why we've got a band scoop net should
be the only way you're allowed to catch white bait, right,
white bait are actually they're all native trout symbols that
and they all go to a different habitat. Some the
unger stays down on the easter iron zone, you know,
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they banded cockapoo, the short or longsaw cockapoos. They go
up further and they have their own different places they
swim to. Some go to the lakes up you know,
they jump up the waterfalls there that they're the little
ones with the golden ones. They're pick to the side
of the buck. They jump up the waterfalls, off the rocks.
It's all about the set nets. Believe me, I've seen
and I've seen people set up below me. When I've
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been getting good catchers, still penny going pass. Then all
of a sudden, not one bloody fish case paths excuse
my language.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
That's fair.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
I wish where James goes on holiday. Mugget tooth, believe me. Okay,
there's still bloody heaps lovely.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
So, Craig is the biggest problem with the sock net.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
It's just it's it's indiscriminate fishing.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
What about the selling of white baite, Craig, do you
support that?
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Well, I'll tell you what. Yeah, I sell it but
a sheep to people who can't get it because they
work too much and they really love it, or else
old folks who I know money and then because it
takes a lot of time and picture will and all
that to going, you know, don't catch them.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
So what do you sell yours for, Craig?
Speaker 5 (26:17):
Seventy dollars a kilo?
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Seventy aquilo?
Speaker 5 (26:18):
Right, but some days I would have you get a
kilo a day, sometimes whe all day, you know, yeah,
because of those bloody sickness excuse my language again, No
fair enough.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
And so is it a livelihood for you or a pastime?
Speaker 5 (26:31):
It's not. It's a pastime, you know. That's why I've
been out the season. I'm going out tomorrow morning, right see,
you know, hopefully hopefully get a feed over a cry.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
It's the restriction or regulation you'd like to see put
upon the industry would be just banning of those nets.
Are you comfortable at the moment not having to report
catches and the lake?
Speaker 5 (26:48):
No, that's fine because it's very hard to catch a
lot with a scudney. Well, are you on the good days?
You'll get eat and then and then you can I
can share it on the way home, and I'm getting
past you run's places on the way home. You they right,
And it's the only time I get to is when
he could run, like once a month or something.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
What do you put in your petty? Apart from the
white bait? What do you put in your patty? How
do you make your patties?
Speaker 5 (27:09):
That's it? Eggs of white bait and lemon.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Juice and salt and salt.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
A little bit of salt because they've got no salt
flavoring them, their fresh.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Obvious tomatoes saucer am I heav Yeah, I thought you
got your snobs. Your snobs there both The Highlight Reel.
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Speaker 3 (27:33):
Capital Gains Tax has been a bit of a poisoned
Chalice for the Labor Party. I go way back to
Phil Goff and David Cunliffe and then of course just
Cindera durn took the nuclear option. She didn't just rule
it out, she said under her watch, remember the Captain's call. Yes,
never ever, So that's clearly Chris Hepkins thinks differently that
maybe New Zealand public are ready for a capital gains.
Speaker 12 (27:52):
I think it is absolutely time for us to have
that conversation as a country. It's time for us to
do something about it. And so we're working through that now.
We will, we will be going into the next campaign
with a plan to do something about it.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Mind you, before the last election, Grant Robertson was toalking
about a capital gains tax and Chris Hopkins just shot
him down.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Well he was desperate, then, wasn't he, Hapkins.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
He's just I think he got it wrong.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yeah, well, I don't know. He was trying everything because
remember there was that bonfire of all those policies here
and that was one of them. So is Chris Hopkins right?
Are we ready now for capital gains tax.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Or a wealth tax which is similar except the wealth tax?
What taxes unrealized gains.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
That's the big difference, JD. And that's what I don't like,
you know, So you don't like that either. You could
be rich on paper and certainly have to pay a
year on year if you retired, and where does the
money come from? So yeah, but a.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Capital gains tax is a tax on the profit that
you've made from the sale, say, of a property.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Is exactly that's the biggest difference between a wealth tax
and capital gains I just think we are probably ready now.
We want to help our nurses, we want to help
our police, we want to keep them in this country,
want to keep our teachers, want to pay them more.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
So you've changed your mind on capital gains tax.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Yeah, I think I have, although like caveat to that.
I like what they do in Australia, so to just
what the devil is in the detail if they introduce
it in Australia. I think I'm right in saying this
that it's a fifteen percent, a flat fifteen percent capital
gains tax on property sold. If you hold the property
for more than twelve months, you purchase it and then
sell it two years later, it's a ten percent capital
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gains So that'll still bring in a heck of a
lot of money.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
It's like a brightline test.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Yeah, But Michael Cullen's plan, to the best of my knowledge,
I think his capital gains was argued on the basis
that it would the capital gains you pay is dependent
on your top marginal tax rate, right. I just think
that's actually unfair.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
But I agree with that, but just in principle, I've
always thought, what is wrong with a capital gains tax?
Speaker 3 (29:50):
But then I spoke with a young couple the other day.
We were talking about it, and they were all for
when they didn't own a home. Yes, yes, capital gains
tax all the way. Yep, definitely. Now they own a
home and they've probably made one hundred grand from when
they real justice. Yeah, unrealized, but it's looking at the market,
they probably made a hundred gand if they were to
sell that and lose thirty percent of that, they're not
so keen on it down I think probably that's the
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way life works.
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Speaker 3 (30:17):
Said, be oh, beg your pardon, James, you were right.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
I was wrong.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
If I was way ahead of the time there were folks,
just we had panic stations in the I'm looking at
James and I'm thinking he's got to wrap it up,
because just a little bit of back this will give
you the behind the scenes of what actually happens on
the show. Folks. Everything is to the second. So at
exactly fifty seven minutes and fifteen seconds, we have to
stop talking because the news place and the old days
you had the peeps, you know, the for the news.
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And sometimes we get quick because our clock's at different angles.
Here it's a computer clock, not like an old analog,
and so we watched the clock as we're talking. It
counts down every second. I was a minute to head
of myself. We're looking at James say shut up, mate,
We've got to go. I'm looking at you panicking.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
I'm going chill, bro, chill bro.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
So I stand down. I was humbly withdraw and apologize. James.
You are much better at telling the time that I
have big.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Hands on there and the little hands on there.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Then we clock off Andrew.
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