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January 15, 2025 34 mins

This week on On The Front Foot, Bryan Waddle and Jeremy Coney were joined by Garth Gallaway to discuss whether the Black Caps ODI squad is capable of winning the Champions Trophy.  

Jeremy puts forward a strong case for the status quo in test cricket, and the boys pay tribute to Martin ‘Guppy’ Guptil’s successful career after the announcement of his retirement. 

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Speaker 2 (00:46):
Hello, welcome to On the Front Foots for the New
Year's twenty twenty five and what have we had sofa
well as Rolanthum series won both Tea Bunny and ODI
will I disappointing furnish to the ODI series are founding
at Eden Park a champions trophy team chosen. Is it
a look for future or a team for subcontinent conditions?

(01:09):
Is Test Cricket looking at another rearrangement and Guffy calls
time on his international career. Nice to be back in
the new year's season. Spreadings to everybody all out A
little bit late. We're midway through January. Respective voices of
cricket joining us as ever Jeremy Coney, who has had
time off after chasing that white ball up and down

(01:33):
the country. Jerry, you've had a little break have on.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
It's been an unhappy festive times to you both. Yeah,
look it has been. I'm over at YHICKI at the
moment with my son and his family, going heading back
to Auckland later today. It's a beautiful day here today,
the calm water and I'm in the bedroom talking to
YouTube bloats. Never mind.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Oh and Garth won't be enjoying it because he's just
been complaining to me about the weather he's had. And
also he had the wonderful time of four days in
Sydney watching two T twenty games between India and Australia.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
I only want the second day, but it was like
a teacher with the only sunshine we've seen in three weeks.
Was down to Warrington for Christmas, then to christ Church,
over the Sydney back to christ Church, indned and I
suppose if you look at the venues, I chose I have,
you know, no one to blame but myself, but the
East coast of New Zealand eighteen degrees has been a

(02:29):
warm day.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
I've had my grandson dal in christ Church. They've been
playing the under nineteen tournament down there, Gas and Auckland
carried it away. So bad luck Canterbury.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
Everyone always likes talking running in the South Island.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
That's great, exactly.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Well the boy had a good tournament too, Jerry.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
He did, he did, he's he had a good time. Yeah.
But there's no Under nineteen World Cup until next year,
isn't it.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
That's right. Yeah, But at least it's looking after the
developmental phase of our game, and that's important. The other
part of our game is the ICC Champions Trophy. I
look at that side and I think, you know, it's
it's a bold side. It's a positive move by the selectors.
I have one, well perhaps two points that I think

(03:18):
are worth discussing. Lackie Ferguson. Yeah, he got some pace
ahead of Jacob Duffy after what Duffy did in the
series against Sri Lanka. Experience perhaps. And the other one
is wicket keeper. I'm still in favor of having full
time wicket keepers rather than part timers who bats a
little bit And is Tom Lathan batting well enough to

(03:40):
play in ODI eyes? What do you reckon, Garb?

Speaker 4 (03:43):
I think that there's a lot of pressure on Lathan.
I think it's a good question you raise it. I
mean again, I'm not particularly enamored with the idea of
Devon Conway keeping either, Brian, because you know, he's broken
as thumb doing that previously for New Zealand and he
was out for a fair amount of time, and I
think it just demonstrates the peril that these players get

(04:04):
themselves into, you know, in a way I'd love to
see something being a bit more bold and seeing someone
like Mitch Hay being in the mix a little bit more.
I think it's good that he's been blooded against Sri Lanka.
Jerry will obviously have a view having seen him play,
but he's clearly he's clearly the next cab off the
rank in terms of white ball cricket. So I like

(04:28):
a pure keeper as well who can bat. That's my preference. Ferguson. Yeah,
I mean I don't mind that so much. I suppose
I feel sorry for Duffy. He's a bit like I
suppose you compare him a bit to Will Young or
to Matt Henry in recent years, just waiting for their time.

(04:49):
But for Duffy he's not as young. You know, he's
thirty three years old. I think I'm right in saying that,
and I think he's been so impressive in this Sri
Lankan series so New Zealand the introductor, don't forget. Also
they've picked Sears as well, who's been suffering from injuries,
relatively short of cricket. So they are, you know, they're

(05:12):
staking their case on pace and a little bit of spin.
It's interesting. I think Duffy would have been a good option.
It's more conservative, but over there I like the thought
of him being included.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Ferguson for me, obviously they've gone for pace. As you
mentioned Garth, he's not so much movement in the air,
is he certainly not as much as Duffy. And I
suppose if anyone is missing, he would be the obvious name.
He's displayed pretty good form and he couldn't really have
done a lot better than he's given for the side
so far. The only ode I he didn't play in

(05:49):
New Zealand with Creamed, weren't they, So that's not his fault.
So Ferguson, will he last for three games close together?
I don't know. There's a little question about that. Henry
obviously seam bowler, mister consistent O'Rourke quick with some bounce
two games of none for fifty, so they'll be there'll

(06:11):
be a little bit of a question mark maybe, but
canny bowl and good bounce against and disturb perhaps Pakistan
and the Bangaldesh sides see is he returning to early?
Well we don't know, do we, And they've gone for
that pace Latham. You mentioned wdds over Hay. They've obviously

(06:32):
liked Latham's experience, don't they, and that's why they perhaps
selected him. I've got lots of questions about the batting though,
really after that last, yes, last Matt, where does Chapman go? Guys,
Chapman is a guy who's come up from what middle
order in the twenty twenty format and then he's been

(06:54):
put at three. He's not going to take Williamson's place?
Is he? Where does he go? Does he open? What happens?
If Conway doesn't score any in the SA twenty? What
happens then? Who will open the batting? I also I'm
not sure about Revendra as an opener if the ball

(07:15):
is moving. We saw him bold in the last ODI.
We saw him beaten outside the off stunt consistently by
Fernando the tall left armor in the twenty twenties and
then they then nicked him off. And I just feel
with the movement at the moment, I would like to
see Revendra down in the middle order. He scores off

(07:37):
most deliveries and I think with a less bounce in
in Asia he will enjoy that. But if there is swing,
watch out, watch out. So I would personally like him
down a bit lower. Conway. Yeah, I don't footwork. Footwork, footwork,
you know, Mitchell, someone I think needs to sit down

(07:58):
and say, look, you're batting in a prime position. You're
taking the place where Crow used to play and where
Taylor used to play. You have got the prop, You've
got to accept the responsibility. You can't be flailing outside
of stump. So there's a few things I think about
the batting we need to work with. Is there room
for Phillips and Bracewall Not sure about that either. So

(08:22):
there I still have a few questions about the final
makeup of the side.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Chapman is doing the Phillips job, isn't he? And to
me he is more a middle order finisher, somebody who
can be explosive and do what has been done by
Phillips and the other points I think you know you
make quite fairly. Whereas Latham going about, is he going
to open if that's the case, because he's not a
middle order player. To me, hey is also another finisher,

(08:51):
somebody down the order who can score it better than
run a ball if required. They are interesting ones. The
point about Duffy, I mean he was named as the
squad's standby player to be included should Lockie Ferguson become
unavailable because of I O T twenty playoff commitments. Doesn't
say anything about injury as such, but also standby player

(09:14):
does it when he goes or does he stay at
home and wait for the call? I mean, why not
just take him in the first place? And Lucky Ferguson,
to my mind, is on the way And I think, well,
you know, you talk about Duffy being thirty odd, you'd
know that better than I would. You probably frigid against

(09:36):
him and the need and at some stage did.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
You not quite? But that would have been nice, wouldn't it. Look.
I think the other thing that came out of the
series for me watching some of the white Ball stuff
but not an awful lot of it, was was Nathan Smith,
and you know I was interested Jerry and your thoughts
on that. I felt his with his bowling, he looked
a bit vulnerable actually in really good conditions and I

(09:58):
didn't see the sort of variations that I would expect
to see from a top class steam bowler or all
round it. So you're curious and coming back to the
top order as well. I think New Zealand are vulnerable there.
You know it's a side that could be too down
for not many and the biggest you know that they're

(10:21):
staking an awful lot in Devin Conway.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Yep. Well, I mean I personally feel Smith you mentioned him.
I think he's just learning an international lengths and he's
a little bit full at times and hasn't quite got
the angles yet worked out. I don't think at an
international level they are going to target him and attack him.
I think so he needs to have a variety of

(10:46):
slow balls that he can offer as well, particularly in
place like Asia. It's not going to be an easy tournament,
I don't think. I mean, at the moment New Zealander
rated fifths, they're playing Pakistan, they are fought third at
the moment and they've just beaten South Africa away three
nil in South Africa and they playing well. They've got

(11:09):
a good side. That guy Salmon ayub the left hand
or he's a dasher at the top Shaffiq. You've obviously
got Baba Rizwan Gulam. Then you've got Salmon Aga who's
the leg spinner and also a hitter. Then you've got
the bowlers Fredi, Nassim Shah will be there, I guess,
Harris Ralph and then the leg spinner Abra Ahmad. So

(11:30):
look they're not the worst. They're not the worst lot
those guys. And then of course we'll have India for
the last match, our third match at Dubai, and they
will have already played two previous matches there on that ground.
They'll know the ground, they'll know the angles, they'll know
the pitch, they'll know kind of whether there's dwe at night,

(11:50):
they'll know the totals and how to get there. They'll
know which bowlers are effective, so they will have quite
a lot of knowledge already built up by the time
they get to that third match when we play them.
It's not going to be an easy tournament for New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
No, but New Zealand of course have been to Pakistan
rie and played short ye cricket, haven't they have performed
reasonably well? I think it was under the captaincy of
Michael Bracewell, wasn't it that they went over there and
did pretty well. Well. They've got a month to sort
things out. They've got competition matches being played here in
New Zealand in another short form the Dream eleven Super Smash.

(12:26):
But they've got preparation time because they've got warm up
games in Pakistan before the champions Trophy begins. I think
the nineteenth of February is about the first date, so
it's a month away for the New Zealander's interesting side.
But you know, I think as we probably agree that

(12:47):
Duffy is probably the only one that you could look
at and say he's unlucky not to be there. I
don't think there's any other player that can be left out,
so it's probably the best we've got, bearing in mind
the selection that are available for the New Zealand selectors. Now,
is that fair?

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Yeah? I think that's fair. Was some people would perhaps
so because where they're playing they might go for Stody.
I think it's time to leave is Ish just at
the moment, and I think the spinners that they've selected,
whether as I say, Phillips will play. I mean, lots
of people love his running, you know, in the field

(13:25):
and so on, but he's got to watch his you know,
the length to spin. You can't play one hundred percent
from the back foot all the time, especially not when
it's turning. You get bold in LBW so that and
it's running between the wickets. It's very clear. In the
twenty twenties he was getting very frustrated batting with Mitchell,
who wasn't taking the runs that Phillips thought were on strike.

(13:49):
So when he hits it's square or behind the stumps,
he'll be running back to the danger end. That's why
I'm saying Phillips will and so he can take that
second the other guy running away from the ball, but
as soon as it's in front of square, he's got
to be very careful. Indeed, So I don't know what

(14:09):
they're gonna pick, because you get down to there's a
big log jam. Wadds. When you say you don't know
where Latham's going to bat. He's normally been five, hasn't he. Yeah,
But I don't know how they're going to fit everybody
in who's after him? Santner or is it Bracewell or
Phillips or is it Chapman as you've discussed, or is

(14:31):
it Smith. All those guys are sort of around that
sort of seven eight nine area, So before you get
to your three seamers Henry Ferguson or Sears and O'Rourke.
So we'll have to wait and see how they how
they picked the pictures.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Yeah, interesting challenges for the selectors.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Brian Waddle Jeremy Coney on the front.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Foot suggestions that the ICC will create a two tiered
test cricket format with the larger nations playing each other
more and regularly. Well, it's had a variety of opinion.
There's a there's a wide range of what the ICC
wants to do, and it's a new chairman, Jay Shah,

(15:17):
who's meeting representatives of Australian and English boards this month
to discuss the plans. Why Australia and England? Why not everybody?
Isn't this something that the whole world of cricket should
have a say on. The ic C there to foster
the game, to make sure that everybody is going to

(15:40):
take part in the Test match, but it seems they
want a two tier system. I'm with Clive Lloyd on this.
I think it's a it's it's going to be very
costly and very detrimental to the game.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
And he said, Jerry, I don't have a problem with
the two tiers system per se. The devil will be
in the detail. These guys haven't met yet. It's been decided.
You know, it's been mooted for some years now as
a possibility for astri sure of Test cricket. The BCSI,
BCCI actually closed it down initially, didn't they when they

(16:15):
sided with the teams like West Indies that you mentioned,
and so it didn't go ahead. But it certainly seems
like j Jay Shar in the chair that those concerns
no longer exist and India's position has changed. So I
think a couple of things. If you're going to have

(16:37):
a two tier system, one you've got to have promotion relegation.
That will not happen in my opinion, those three. I
don't know why it's only three. I'm with you on
that that they will not allow that to happen. The
possibility of England, who float around five and six constantly
they'll be near relegation. What happens about the Ashes if

(17:00):
they get into the second tier, they won't allow that
to happen. What happens of India? They lost three Tests
to New Zealand, if they lose three more, if they're
going down, what happens to border Gavaska? Then can you
see India or England or Australia can sign to play
Ireland and Zimbabwe for two years? Come on? They will

(17:20):
not allow that to happen. They won't tolerate it. So
I don't. I would rule it out on that thing alone.
And if promotion relegation is going is not going to happen,
you then can sign the second tier teams that's forty
of the current Test nations. You can sign them to

(17:42):
being forever there. And that means if they can't yet
you know promoted, their players will go and play franchise cricket.
The red ball will atrophy and crowds will disappear because
there's no chance of promotion to play against other teams.
So i'd mean, do these sides in the second tier

(18:03):
never play meaningful tests again?

Speaker 2 (18:05):
You know.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
Some of those sides already win away and sometimes at
home don't they. That's what they do. I mean, you've
just talked about some of those other sides. Was West
Indies beating Australia and Brisbane. England have not beaten the
West Indies for twenty years. In the West Indies, New
Zealand beat India three nil. As we know, Sri Lanka

(18:29):
beat England at the Oval. We've had a terrific Test
match series going on at the moment, you know. Bangladesh
beat Pakistan away two nil. Pakistan at home with down
one nil went to beat England to one. England lost
to Bangladesh when they were away. These are the matches
that we've just had in the last year. So there's

(18:51):
been nothing wrong as far as I can see with
Test cricket. So the other point I would last make
is the money they're talking about, and that's really what
this is about in the end, these three taking money
out of the game from broadcasters. The other aspect I
would say is absolutely non negotiable is that there's a

(19:15):
sharing of money. We have a pool of money that
is taken from our Test cricket and it's to provide
the lesser nation with more resources, not all going to
the top three and so they would that from that fund,
you would then resource all the players, pay them, pay

(19:36):
the coaches, pay the umpires and the you know, the
match referees and so on, and it goes towards the
equipment and facilities of places where we're playing these matches,
and the venues. So I think those two things are critical.
Promotion relegation and the fund that you make from these

(19:59):
because of the broadcasters, that's where you get your money from.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
Unfortunately, I agree with everything that Jerry said. Sadly, I'm
on the page. Got to have promotion relegation, have to
have the sharing of resources and an absolute cast iron
commitment to bringing the lesser nations through. I don't think
you'll see that. I don't think you'll see promotion relegation.

(20:25):
If you do, I'm in favor of the concept, but
I think you have to be careful what you wish
for when you look at I mean, I think what
rugby's you know, if we look for a comparison and
think about rugby and the try nations over here. You know,
when New Zealand, South Africa and Australia signed that up,
it was for New Zealand fans playing the then top

(20:47):
nations regularly. It was a great thing. It's been a
snow fest for the last five, six, seven, eight years.
It's been dreadful so and in fact, what you've had
is a yearning from New Zealanders for full tours to
take place overseas with rugby, and for Lions tours to
take place here and for New Zealand tends to be

(21:07):
playing the six nation side. So it's you know, I
think one of the great magic of Test cricket is
that these sides don't play each other all the time,
and therefore there is this anticipation the more they play
each other, you know, familiarity breeds contempt. Having said that,
we're just looking and Jerry, you've talked about some of

(21:29):
the series that are going on around the world at
the moment. There's another one between India and Ireland and
women's fifty over cricket, and you're seeing India murdering Island
four hundred and thirty five for five in the last score,
world records being broken, or records for fastest hundreds and
so on. If you look at the fastest women's centries

(21:52):
by their players, you know three of them are against Ireland.
Divine and green. You remember in New Zealand went there
in twenty eighteen and smashed Ireland. Seven years later, the
same thing is still happening and Island is smashing them.
There's nothing good about that, there's nothing. No one wants
to go and see it, no one wants to be
involved with it. So somehow we have to support the

(22:14):
Lesson Nations. And I can't see with the current setups
in Ireland in India rather that that is going to happen.
And if it doesn't and if there isn't that commitment,
I mean promotion relegation would create a degree of excitement
and I like, I really do like that thought. And

(22:34):
you know, there is a lot of Test cricket played
around the world with very little interest in it. So
you know, I'm torn once but again I agree with
Jerry on the not negotiables, promotion, relegation and a fund
to bring through the Lesson Nations and develop their cricket.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
The charm of Test cricket is about the fact that
you can have a series where New Zealand could beat
India three nil, that the West Indies were able to
beat Australia at some stage perhaps or any of those results.
That's what Test cricket is about. I don't want to
see Test cricket that was played at Sydney that you
went to come and see, as we talked about earlier,

(23:12):
being just a slogathon where you're playing reverse sweeps after
you've or scoops over the keeper after you've faced three balls.
I mean that to me was not the quality of
Test cricket I want to see. But I want to
see a competition that is meaningful for everybody, and that
has many implications for the ICC and as I say,

(23:34):
they're responsible for getting everybody together, aren't they, and making
sure that the game is fostered accordingly.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Absolutely a couple of points. I think the current system
we know is very flawed. We know that we discussed
this on this program, haven't we. There's a different number
of games for teams. There's not playing every other nation
as a league does mean you know, some sites have

(24:02):
a much easier route to the final, as we know.
But the point you're making was we need to devise
a system that works for all sides, not just three
of them. This is this which is what's being proposed
at the moment. And I went through all the test

(24:23):
matches Since twenty twenty to twenty twenty five. India have
played thirty eight tests in that time. Seventy one percent
of those tests are either against Australia or England seventy
one percent of them. Australia have played forty tests. Fifty

(24:44):
seven percent of those test matches are against India or England.
England have played the most, of course, as we know,
fifty eight tests. Forty one percent of those tests are
against India or OZ. What I'm saying is they are
already play each other by stealth a lot more than

(25:05):
other nations already, and so they're going to plan. This
plan is to move from nominant to excessive. And the
only four and five test series are played between these teams,
so already the smaller nations are marginalized. Now the other point,

(25:30):
now that's really I think all I need to. I
agree with what Garth says about the anticipation and the
build up. Rather than getting rather tired of seeing the
same teams play each other every week, that will occur
if these sides go ahead. After a while, it'll be
fine for two years, but after that, say oh not

(25:52):
in dear again, you know that will happen. And as
I say, if that does happen, we are the seven nations.
There are other seven nations. Let's go and be the
magnificent seven and leave the three to themselves. They'll soon
get sick of it.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Brian Waddle Jeremy Conny is on the front foot finally
this week.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Remember this, here's Taylor bowling to the New zealanday for two
slips in place. Our first delivery is driven down the ground.
That's a good firm stroke. It's going all the way
towards the boundary. I think I don't know that Sullivan,
Ben Orholder will be able to get it. It's slowing
up when it beat them to the boundary. Yes it does.
It goes before the first ball of the innings. Taylor
picks up the attack to bowl too a gup till

(26:35):
he drives down the ground. Another handsome shot and that's
going to go for four as well. Taylor again to
a gut to drives down the ground again. This time
it's a chase on the on side and that's four
more delivery has him pulling it awards six rounds. Buy
it's part one hand or two brilliant take leaning over
the fence, taking one handed by a man in an
orange shit. You go into the draw, palth.

Speaker 5 (26:56):
Sit up to pushing one through the vacant point region
to bring up a half century rolaide. Martin Guptil seven
fours has fifty sixty four deliveries in and again sweeping
that could where he's found again. This should race away
towards the boundary and will that's when he drags down
and this one's cut away for more, this time in

(27:17):
front of point nine and Guptel not messing out and.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Each when he drives down the ground towards long on
fields when running across won't get to it. It's four runs.
That's another good straight drive from gut till. He's played
a number of those today and he's hit that one sweetly.
Samuel's bars to him and this one drives down the
ground and there he is.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Back to back.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Hundreds in World Cap cricket. Martin Guptel one hundred or
one hundred and eleven balls he celebrates and deserves too,
to a standing ovation here at the Wellington Stadium. One
hundred Martin Guptel.

Speaker 6 (27:48):
Into ball to gup till that's short and wide and
it gets what it deserves, goes into ball and Guptill
flicks is away to the deep buck of spared a
bandu fo ben bowles. Guptill goes back, chops is away
on the off side, doesn't beat the point fielder goes
through for a single and that is one hundred and
fifty for Martin Guptill one hundred and fifty to.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Have one hundred and thirty four balls and he raises
but here he is to Guptil and gut Till drives
over extra cover into the stand for six hold full
tow into the stand six more.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
HULLO.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
I don't know whether that one was caught. I lost
sight of It doesn't really matter.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
It's six more.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Two of this one has him hitting over the on
side out into the deep and cleans the fiesman for
six hold their balls to gap Til and gup Til
hits over the extra cover out to the boundary six more,
turning it away on the on side backward square leg
out to the boundary four more.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
For the second time.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
He becomes the highest scorer of a one day one
hundred for New Zealand, one hundred and ninety two.

Speaker 7 (28:49):
Into the crease past the umpire Boles hit straight down
the ground as at six.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
One bounce, fours.

Speaker 7 (28:58):
One, nine eight. Here is the delivery. Mighty Guptil drives
down the crowd. Four more Stand up New Zealand, Stand
up the world two one hundred and three not out
Martin Guptelus.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Glorious Martin Guptel twenty first of March twenty fifteen. One
of the finest innings I think he played in international
cricket and it was in the World Cup in Wellington.
We saw that, didn't we And I think Jerry. One
of the other innings that we saw of Martin Guptels
was the one hundred and eighty nine he scored against

(29:34):
England at Southampton early on in his career. What a
remarkable one day white ball career he's had.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
You look at it.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
He averaged forty one in ODI cricket, played one hundred
and ninety eight matches. That's quite remarkable those figures, aren't they.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
And as an opener, Brian, that's one of the toughest
gigs in the game. Really, you know, the new ball,
fresh bowl is all that stuff with movement and bounce
in the field set, you know, to take advantage of
eras played all the formats, didn't he. You mentioned the
ode eyes that stands out, but tests forty seven tests

(30:14):
as well. I guess you're right, and that I think
people will recognize, particularly as white ball, and you know,
the shorter formats he seemed to suit his game a
little better. He's been around a long time, hasn't he.
The longevity of the player as well, something like these

(30:34):
over ten years, that's for sure, isn't he? Yep? Yep, yeah,
So I mean he's been part of important sides, hasn't he?
That that you mentioned the one the twenty fifteen in
Wellington and that became a runner up, didn't it. He
was a part of that side where that played Australian lost.

(30:55):
The twenty nineteen side was where we watched that in England,
and of course he was part of that desperate dive
not to get run out in the super over when
we scored exactly the same number of runs in the
super over and the fifty over match as well and
lost the contest, you know, frankly ridiculous rule devised by

(31:16):
people who don't understand the game. So, and the other
point I want to make about him, he was a
very fine fieldsman, very accurate catcher, moved in the field well,
you know, widespan, good wind diving. I remember his front
foot play, particularly the drive down the ground over the
bowler early on. It's quite a tricky thing to get that,

(31:41):
you know, risk reward, attack, defend early on in a
one day game. So he did that well. So yeah, Look,
he's got lots of medals, lots of awards, played for
loads of teams around the world because he's good, and
franchises want him as well. But he always wanted to
play for New Zealand. I want to make that point.
He always gave me the feeling I want to play

(32:04):
for my country and he was available to play and
it was only when he was dropped that he departed
his contract.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
Good player, yeah, I mean I think a very player
with a simple game plan too. When we look at
the sort of shots that are played by players now,
he was able to do it in a more dare
I say it conservative and orthodox way. Magnificent striker one
hundred and three in a chasing win at Lords in

(32:33):
twenty and thirteen, and then that one hundred and eighty
nine not out that you've talked about a two to
one series win to New Zealand, one hundred and eighty
nine out against South Africa. I mean his scoring those
major innings and that two thirty seven not out that
you touched on against the West Indies in Wellington was incredible,
scoring eighteen centuries behind on Williamson who scored twenty one.

(32:59):
You know, his record speaks for itself. A magnificent striker
of the ball, unflustered and a player who I think
never sought the limelight. You know, I'm sure that Martin
Gupdel has an ego, he didn't bring it overtly into
the area. But also and this T twenty record a
fambulous record there where he averages thirty one, Williamson averages

(33:22):
thirty three and by contrast, Taylor twenty seven two centuries.
Taylor and Williamson haven't scored them. He scored one against
South Africa, one against Australia and T twenty cricket. He
will be remembered as one of our great cricketers, particularly
our great white ball players.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Yeah, and still a player keen to play for Auckland.
He's been part of the Dream eleven super smash. I'm
not sure how long that will go for but he
certainly dragged the crowds in a very entertaining player and
wish him all the best, Thank him for his contribution
to New Zealand cricket and I'm sure we'll see more
of Martin Gaptel around the scene at in recent times. Anyway,

(34:01):
time for us to finish off. We have got no
international cricket. It's Dream eleven super smash boys. You can
enjoy the sunshine on the banquet at Hagley or at Well.
I don't know howton Park. I don't play much there,
do they Cherry and I'll go to the basin.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
Well done and you're very dead. Yeah all right boys,
thanks you much, get the quarter talking again. Good to
see you guys. Yeah, take care of that's chairs now, Lobel.
Wonderful summer.

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