February 3, 2025 • 42 mins
This week on On The Front Foot, Bryan Waddle and Jeremy Coney were joined by Peter Holland as they paid tribute to the 2024 International Women’s Player of the Year, Amelia Kerr.
Johnny Basset Graham and Will Young are celebrating the T20 tiles for Wellington and the Central Districts, and the boys also discuss the upset from the Aussies as none of their players were named in the Wisden test team of 2024.
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Speaker 5 (00:48):
Hello, a month gone and the new year, and we're
back doing what we do best. Talking Cricket on the
Front Foot, which includes a prestigious accolade for immediate curve,
comes with no surprise named the ICC Women's Player of
the Year for twenty twenty four see twenty titles decided.
Has the standard improved in the New Zealand game by
the constant play in the short format? Will we ever
(01:11):
be able to match the Ossies in promotion and crowd
numbers they gained from BBL, but we have outdone them.
The Wisdom World Test team has been named two black
Caps no Ossies a fair outcut. We'll discuss that final
eleven shortly. I thought i'd be just a little bit
parochial this morning, chaps wearing my cricket Wellington shirt.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
You'll have yours on.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I'm still in them a pajamas ones.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
I was going to ask that us the next question.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I always Wellington jerseys to bed.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Yes, exactly, yes, of course, Well a man who could
have two on this morning because he was a Central
Districts man and I don't know who he would have
wanted to win the title. And yeah, not yet, but
they didn't get anywhere.
Speaker 8 (02:03):
Okay, all right, well no, actually it was. It was
a perfect outcome. And I was clearly keep from my
old alumni to when the the men's version and thrilled
for the women took the wee women to win. So yeah, yeah,
I got, I got the I got the got the
Cornell there excellent.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
Yes, indeed, well that's that's good. Let's talk about somebody
who's got more than the Quernella. One of the stars
of the women's game, Amelia k first New Zealander to
win the Supreme Award and either the men's a women's
category of the ICC winning the Women's Player of the Year,
and for Amelia it was a special award ending what
(02:47):
has been a demanding year.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Yeah, I mean after the year that I guess heat's
challenging periods for the group after ten losses on the bounce,
but did to win the World Cup was pretty special.
So that's obviously the highlight. And be able to contribute
for New Zealand and have the award at the end,
that's special, but it's not really something you play for. Yeah,
(03:10):
I think it's huge. I love playing for New Zealand,
I love representing the White Ferns. And for me, we
have an outstanding group of players and support staff and
I think within the last year my bowlings kind of
improved so much and a lot of that comes down
to the spin group we have. I love training with them,
the spin coach with we have with Paul Wiseman, and
(03:32):
just the fun we have with the ability to work
hard in between. I think it's really important. And yeah,
go out there and enjoy my cricket, keep things simple
and love representing the team with some of the guest mates.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
So how special is it to be recognized among an
outstanding group of women cricketers.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Yeah, women's crickets growing and it's so good to see.
And yeah, the other players that were nominated. I think
we're also nominated for the fifty over it Player of
the Year. And yeah, there's so many amazing cricketers around
the world and we, I guess, get to see it
more in the international but also in franchise leagues where
sometimes you get to play with those players and it's
(04:12):
so competitive. There's so many good players and it's just
awesome to see the growth of the women's game.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
So what's the plan for this year.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
It's a good question. I just been trying to get
better each and every year and work hard and find
little things that are going to make me better. But
I think this last year has been my bowling and
not much has changed necessarily, but I think TEA twenty
cricket players are coming hard at you, so just trying
to bowl my best bawl and have builds that match
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that and keeping it really simple, and it seemed to
work this year. We've also played in conditions that have
suited my bowling, and I guess to buy where the
watch ups are a bit slow and low, So I think, yeah,
things were in my favor as well, which helps.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
And yeah, just simple plans.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
What about the prospect of being asked to captain the
White Fans in the future.
Speaker 9 (05:02):
I'm not too sure at this stage.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
I think obviously she'd step down his Tea twenty captain
after the world and there's things to think about there,
and you know, after this well being break. I think
for me, it's just focusing on what's next. At the moment,
it's super smashed and trying to lead to Wellington Blaze
well and when that title is the goal and then yeah,
it's taking each thing as a thing as it comes.
(05:25):
And when if I get asked to captain, it's going
to be something to think about. It's not something you
just want to say yes or no too lately because
it's a huge onre to be out to captain new Zellen,
So it'll take some thought and if I do it
on and make sure I'm ready.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Well, a lot of contenders for that award, did Jerry,
but I think that it was probably ritually deserved across
all forms of the game. Really, Amelia cur has just
been a wonderful contributor to the woman's game. And you
know she's been playing ten years, she's only twenty four.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, you're right, Wa, it's been some journey for her,
hasn't it, and she rightly acknowledges, you know, all the
people that have played a part in the sort of
cricketer that she's become already, and there's a fair few
years left if she wants them. So I think she's
been personally New Zealand's best or round player for a
(06:19):
few years now, and that's all the players. Frankly, I
guess because it was a t twenty World Cup year
that that played quite a significant part in deciding the
Player of the year, if you like. It was the
sort of the highlight. And certainly in that competition she excelled.
(06:44):
You know, I know that she didn't score the most runs.
It wasn't an easy place to score runs. Actually, Dubai
and Charger, they get the ball kept a bit low
and it turned a bit and so it wasn't that
easy for batsmen. There are a lot of catchers dropped.
Hundreds of catchers dropped, weren't there in that in that tournament.
But just if you look at say her bowling, for example,
(07:08):
she had six matches, which is more than some of
the other bowlers. Of course, making the final fifteen wickets,
which is the most of any player, averaging seven economy
rate of four point eight in the straight rate of nine, one.
Speaker 8 (07:22):
Bag of four.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
And if you then look at the people she got
outs in the final against South Africa, she got the
you know, the top player, wolf Art out from South
Africa dismissed her. She also dismissed the number three bosh.
Then you're to look in the wonder for the game
before that, the Semi and the West Indies, she got
DeAndre Dottin out there their top scorer and another thes
(07:48):
two wickets. Pakistan she got Fatim Masana out, the top
scorer for Pakistan and two others. Sri Lanka she got Atapatu,
their top scorer. You can hear a pattern coming through,
can't you. She gets good players out and she's always
been even when they lost against Australia, Beth Mooney, Elise Parry,
(08:11):
you know she got those players out and so she's
always done that and she gets good players out and
so that makes a heck of a difference to her side.
And then of course with the bat and the final,
she got the top score for New Zealand forty three
or thirty eight. So you know she's a key player.
(08:32):
There's no doubt about it. She's also could I just
mentioned the catching. She is by far and away our
most accurate catcher. I'm not saying she doesn't drop catch
as ever, everyone does, but on that particular tournament, catchers
went down like mellow puffs and a church vestry meeting
and it was just that was to be honest, I mean,
(08:54):
she was way ahead of everybody else there as well.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
So is that where I go to get my mellow
puffs in a church vestry meeting?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
You do what you do, That's exactly where you go. Boy,
that's right, you.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Mos. I watched her play in the T two D
finals over the weekend and you know, I instantly think
of the female version of Kin Williamson. Is that a
fair comparison.
Speaker 8 (09:24):
Well in the woman's game, yes and no. But her
ability as an all rounder, as a truly, truly, very
probably I argue you the best all round her in
women's cricket. It's hard to go past that. I mean,
she does it. And Jerry's point around. She she gets
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the best players out, she gets wickets, and that's not
just in New Zealand. I mean I think she's just
pretty much far too good for most of the people
in domestic cricket. But she gets the best of the
internationals out and that just says something and then and
then goes in and that's it one or two or three. No, No,
she's she's sister. Just just a class act. So perhaps
(10:08):
even more because I don't think Cane bowls anymore or
throws or whatever he used to do. So yeah, I'm
a huge fan and of course just another great player
out of Wellington, and yeah we should.
Speaker 7 (10:22):
Know this.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
I was just referring mainly to her batting and her
ability to be innovative without taking risks or playing odd shots.
I mean I watched her do what Glenn Turner used
to do when the ODI game was first started, looking
for areas to score.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
He used to chip the.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
Ball back over the bowler's head until they found a
way of coming out. And she did that perfectly against
Northern to get them through to a defendable total. I thought,
you know, that is the sort of thinking that you
need to be an achiever at the top level, and
it comes to her naturally quite clearly.
Speaker 8 (10:59):
When I see a medicurve bat, I mean, she's a
beautiful batter in the current current parlance. She plays cricket shot,
whereas I think some of the some of her colleagues
don't quite have that ability and therefore resort to, shall
we say, somewhat more funky versions of trying to get runs.
(11:21):
But she just has the ability to, as you say,
play beautiful shots and then when she needs to she
can play the ramp and whatever else. You No, she's
some class act one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I think I watched her a little bit in the weekend.
It's interesting, Wadds when you look at she started. I
don't know how old she was when she started playing
for New Zealand. Was twenty sixteen. She can't have been
too oixteen. Yeah she started.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Yeah, well, she.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Batted anywhere between ten, number ten and number six at
the start. Early on they obviously regarded her as a
bowler first and then a batsman.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
But she moved up, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
In twenty and twenty she went to number five and
got runs there, and then number four she got that
two hundred and thirty not out against Ireland actually that
would help the average. And then she in twenty twenty
two she became our number three basically, And I think
I agree with Moose in the sense that you know,
(12:27):
you generally have your best all round batsman in the side.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
At that position.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
You handle the new ball if you have to, you
lose an early wicket, you handle the powerplay if you're
playing ODIs and t twenties. And then when the advantage
of the relaxation of the field restriction and the gaps appear,
she can take advantage of that playing orthodox cricket shots.
And it particularly is obvious to me when she plays
(12:53):
in the off side. On the off side, she which
it's a stroke that relies more on body shape. I'm
not thinking about a cut, because those those big hitters
can play cuts as well, but they can't play drives.
The bottom hand comes into play and they heave it
through mid on or they even try and go squarer
(13:16):
as they you know, they look to supply a lot
of power to the stroke and so but she doesn't
do that.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
She drives.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
She drives over the bowler, she drives over the covers,
she drives along the ground, she punches.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Off the back foot. She's got all the shots.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
That's not to say she's perfect, but you know, she
has all the shots, and so she can play the
appropriate shot to the ball. That's bold to her and
so you see that. You can see it straight away.
She's averaging something like forty nine and nod eyes at
number three.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
So she is our best player and she adapts.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
I thought in the weekend she dragged her Wellington team
on too.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
She dragged them by the scruff of the neck. Come
with me to win this.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
We got low scores, two low scores, one against Northern
and one against Otago, who bowled beautifully, I thought.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
But she just dragged them along, said we can win this.
We can win a little bit of help from the.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Ossies, a couple of Ossie mates because she plays over
there in the Big Bash. But nevertheless, you know she
was the one pulling them along, no doubt about that
in my mind.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
Yeah, and she was needed to.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Of course, I know all sides have injury problems, but
Wellington had something like six of their front line first
team picks injured. Leek Casperick with a broken thumb, Zara
Gently with a broken hand. There's another player I forget
to name who has a hand injury, the girl Plimmer.
(14:55):
She's recovering from a legan injury. Yeah, she's away from
the team now, so you know it's tough, particularly in
the women's game where they don't have quite the depth
that might be valuable if the men's side have have
an injury. So you know, she's she's certainly a remarkable player,
(15:16):
I think, quite clearly the next choice as captain, although
you wonder what that will do to her game at
the top level, whether she's going to have to take
even more responsibility than.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
She does now.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
But she seems to handle that responsibility with ease, doesn't she.
Speaker 8 (15:33):
Oh? She she seems to be have a very calm demeanor.
I really like her demeanor. There's a calmness about it,
much as Kam Williamson has. There's no panic. And I guess, yeah,
defending one one hundred and four runs, well, they had
a precedent from the prior year where they defended something
(15:53):
like eighty odd runs, And yes, so they wasn't their
first rodeo so to speak. But also I was quite
I thought it was great to have a couple of
Australians out playing in our our game, you know, exposure
to them fantastic and and I wish we could have
(16:15):
more of that to a certain extent and now domestic game,
but that's another that's another topic of course. But and
they did pretty well on my dad and contributed yeah much.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Yeah, well, at some stage we can have that discussion.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Brian Waddell, Jeremy Coney on the front foot.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
The Stags and the Blaze, the Dream eleven, the Super
Smash champions, the Stags winning for the fourth time and
Wellington Blaze going back to back in a competition they've dominated.
She can't stay out of the news too long.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
Medi Kerr.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
She led the Blaze to success in a tight, low
scoring match much the same as the elimination final on
the Saturday. But she's class and has the knack of
making good decisions even if she isn't the dominant individual
now wonder she was happy. A great title to secure and.
Speaker 9 (17:03):
So so so time to go back to back and
to do it defending a load, I mean after twenty
overs when you hit to bowl well and just fight
like how to win that game. And the character of
the team showed not this year but last year as well.
It's yeah, I'm so proud of the group. If you
told me at the start of the day, I would
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have taken more than one hundred and five or whatever
it was every single day, So I didn't think it
was enough, but I believe every minute that we could
win that game. And with run rate pressure and with
taking wickets, we stayed in the fight. I'd love to
play a fine and where we make it easier for ourselves.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
But yeah, it's very special.
Speaker 9 (17:43):
Yeah, I think first and foremost it's about winning the
power play. There's two fielders out they can take the
game on and just set the tone with five dots
to start and just keeping on building pressure. And then
Hannah Darlington was exceptional today to take four in a final.
The wickets she got were massive and I think every
bowler stepped up and played their role. Yeah, I'm so proud.
(18:05):
I think nothing's faced us this year. We have two
new coaches at the start of the campaign. They've been exceptional,
so calm, and they've helped this group massively in a
short space of time. And then to lose a lot
of key players for us and to turn up today
and for the whole comp with injured players that are
on the sideline and to believe every single day is
(18:27):
the most most important thing. And that's what I'm most
proud of.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
And the coach you referred to as Johnny Bassett Graham,
who was coach of the under nineteen men's team and
he joined the Blaze midway through this season. At the
twenty twenty competition.
Speaker 10 (18:40):
Two pretty fantastic games of cricket. Though, so very proud
of the effort.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
The women had to play it pretty hard last year
and it was as close as last year's contest as
well this year's wasn't it.
Speaker 10 (18:53):
Yeah, very much so. I guess I had the fortune
of watching that game at home last year. But really
cool to see how, I guess the character of this team.
They never say die, attitude, the fight to the end,
and I guess just a yeah makes up then come
from a pretty tough situations. Yeah, a really cool moment
for us.
Speaker 9 (19:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Character is important too for this team this year in
particular because you had to do it the hard way.
Every side gets troubled by injuries, but you had a
fair feast of.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
Them, didn't you.
Speaker 10 (19:23):
Yeah, we did, and pretty pretty big players for their
scroup in terms of what they add to the team
and the individual performances, so you're obviously big losses and yeah,
I guess it does show the character and the fight
of this team how they were able to do it.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
You're new to coaching the side, what was the key
to you in terms of coming to grips with coaching
this team that has a proud record in this competition too.
Speaker 10 (19:51):
Yeah, I think I've made a pretty conscious effort remind
the whole team that it's their success that they've had
along the way to get here. It's, you know, a
slight change and coaching set up shouldn't really impact that.
It's very much just keeping on the recipe that they
had that's been so successful over the years. And I
(20:14):
guess just trying to keep them mie and calm, level
headed and remind them that the game the players there
to be enjoyed, so we've tried to just keep mice
and relaxed and enjoyable. I guess, how did you feel
with just one hundred and five on the board trying
to defend that you would have loved a little bit
more to defend for sure. I guess I was really
(20:35):
confident in our ability in the field, and I guess
the ballers across the board have the ability to squeeze
or take wickets at different stages, so you're always hopeful.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
So I suppose you're also fortunate you have a world
class player leading the side as well, and that makes
a big difference in any team. I know she's only
one person and the team make the performances, but it's
nice to have that as your lead.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Wasn't it.
Speaker 10 (21:02):
Yeah, she's a fantastic person first and foremost. How she's
led this side as and truly awesome just to watch
and be a part of. She's got a great cricket
brain on her. We know how skillful she can be,
and I guess, yeah, in big moments she's she's won
in the ball in particular, and then it's just capable
(21:22):
of opening the game up and turning turning a game
on its head, I guess, which I think she did
twice yesterday in the elimination final and then again today's
sort of put us in a much better position.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
Yeah, because I guess she must have looked at Otago
and thought, well, you know they've being the front runners
and they have a pretty good.
Speaker 10 (21:41):
Sigh Yeah too, right, and you know they beat us
twice in the sort of pool play well round robin stages,
and yeah, it's always going to be a tough game
against them one and they've got a lot of depth.
They're Buddy WAF coached by Craig and yeah, just happy
to be on the.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
End of a w there in the country.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
To my belief, Central Districts overpowered the black Cap Riddle
at Canterbury Kings with Will Young showing the skills and
resilience to withstand the powerful Cannedy bowling attack.
Speaker 11 (22:13):
Yeah, awesome to be here today. Finish, finish, top of
the table, go straight through the final and hold our
nerve against a really quality Cannibory side. I can't wait
to get into the sheds shortly with the boys and celebrate.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
Yeah, the top of the table.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
As you say, in terms of qualifying, what's the reason
for the success of the side this year? Because it's
a difficult comp isn't it It is?
Speaker 11 (22:34):
Yeah, you know, anything can happen in TI twenty cricket.
But one thing we did say early in the comp,
off the back of some competitions, but we've sort of
been slow starters. We said, look, let's let's take every
game as if it's a final. It's an opportunity to
showcase our skills and and and play with a smile
on our face. And that's something that we've or a
(22:55):
bit of a mantra really that we've we've had in
this group. And I suppose we showed up to the
basin today and it was business as usual. Another final,
another opportunity to do just that, to show what we
can do and and smile and represent Central dis priet.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
People have a chance to assess how strong the competition
was this year. Was the quality what you would have
expected from TEA twenty Yeah.
Speaker 11 (23:17):
I think I've always thought that Super Smash is of
a really high quality. I mean, you just saw today
the amount of black Caps that were in the final.
It was awesome to see. And and there's black Caps
right throughout right throughout the Supersmash teams. There's obviously a
bit of a juggling act with the international calendar and guys,
(23:38):
you know, wanting to rest and make sure that they're
fully prepared and ready to go and called upon for
black Caps duty. But I think it's awesome that the
guys come back and pay for their play for their
domestic sides as well.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
Yeah, towards the end with the international players and it
showed the value that they can bring.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
You know, you're gonna cook Canterbury. They had an international
bowling attack. They short. Yeah.
Speaker 11 (23:57):
Yeah, at one stage Henry Shipley was on the sidelines.
Has obviously paid for New Zealand. So it's a hell
of a bowling attack. And as you say, like other
black Caps like Darrell Mitchell came in and you know,
that cool head and the a man for a crisis.
I guess you could say, you know, he really got
really helped put Cannibury on a roll and gain some
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momentum and they went from bottom of the table to
the finals. It's amazing how quickly it can happen. So yeah,
fair play to them. They had some real wind in
their sails heading into this final, so it was awesome
to put a stop to that and yeah finish on top.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Yeah, you and Dane Flema looked to you had some
inventum and some desire to win absolutely.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (24:38):
Yeah, played with Dame for a hell of a long
time now, so it was awesome to share a partnership
with him in the middle and get us off to
a good start at the top.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
So now you're off to the international scene again, way overseas.
You don't get time of a rest after this one, no, no.
Speaker 11 (24:53):
Just quick insight. So I get back to ap just
after ten tomorrow and then I'm back at the airport
at three o'clock to fly to or start the journey
to Pakistan. So yeah, yeah, just answer the next thing,
and yeah, Pakistan will be a really interesting challenge. We've
got to try series first up with South Africa, US
and Pakistan, and then Champions Trophy will come around real quick.
(25:13):
And that's the top best best eche sides in the world,
so it's a really exciting prospect.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
And subcontinent teams in conditions that they know and enjoy,
that's right.
Speaker 11 (25:24):
And we've got all subcontinent teams on our side of
the pool, so there's no easy games and there's no
easy beat so we're going to have to hit the
ground running over there. But as I said before, it's
really exciting and I can't wait to get over there
and get stuck in.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
Thanks few time, going still rate with you, miheah, Thanks
very much, Frie.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
Yeah, interesting point you made earlier Moose about the Australian
women being part of the New Zealand competition. I think
you're right in terms of the women's game, they certainly
need overseas experience and that kind of quality just around
the dressing room and being able to help their players,
because we've got a lot of work to do with
our women's game to bring it along. And add to
(26:04):
that point the fact that in the final Canterbury had
the US bowling attack, you know, five impressive, irresistible bowlers
who demolished Northern districts in the elimination semi final, but
were handled well by Dame Cleaver and by will Young.
But that lifts the quality of your game and your competition,
(26:26):
doesn't it.
Speaker 8 (26:28):
I don't think there's any question about that. And and
I wanted to to to touch on the fact that
there was some discussion on the television about that the
Wicked where he wasn't he was too paced as they
often say and such like. But but then when you
when you when you watched Young and Dame Cleaver in
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my god, that now there's there is an underrated player,
isn't it? Together with their captain Bruce two very fine players.
But coming back to it, the way that Young in
particular just says what a class act he is. Just
play beautifully handled a very very good attack from Canterbury
with a plum and I'm very measured and they won
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up with ease, didn't they fantastic because it's a lot
of unheld and young players in that CD team, and
you know, there's a lot about what they've done in
this system and how they brought young players on. I know,
I actually enjoyed that. I really did enjoyed seeing them
win too, and comprehensively young though, very very good, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yeah, look, I agree with the youth policies that they
seem to have chosen.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
I mean, boil the young opener.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Clark, I didn't know much about who came in towards
the end and played some beautiful couple of beautiful drives
or Heathy was it might have been Heathe? Yeah, Heathey
sure came and bowled his offices. I thought that was
I mean, it's really I think it's great that we're
seeing some of these junsters coming in and they're obviously
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reasonable quality players. And so even despite the fact that
Young and Kleaver are a little older, and you know,
Cleaver hit it very cleanly, didn't he. He picked up
the links early on and attacked and looked to take
the quicks on. Young just played a measured, anchored innings
as we know that he can, and that helped when
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you're chasing.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
You don't want to lose early wickets.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
When you're chasing a low total, you put yourself under pressure.
You stick or twist. Sometimes you don't know whether to
attack or how to play, but he did so. I
was pleased that they also bowled pretty well. I thought
on that pitch, you know, using the slower bouncer and
things like that, that that claimed wickets, getting men caught
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a deep third man and that sort of stuff. So
well done to CD, I thought Kenton. They were certainly
surely a batsman light You can't. You cannot select a
side that has o'rour, Jamison, Henry and then Shipley and folks.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
You can't. You can't have.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Five seamers and then have Sody in there as well
as sixth bowler. A seventh bowler is Maconchie and then
you could use Mitchell for a couple of overs. They
just got too many bowlers, so that really is a
mistake by Canterbury.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
I think.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
They needed another batsman in there, and so it was costing,
not the first day, what it does when you get
all those bowlers, and especially in the semi final. I
just thought it made the toss too important. You win
the toss and bowl of those bowlers and they what
were they fought five down for seven runs Northern I
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think something, yeah, So I mean it was it was
that ruins the ga actually unfortunately, but in the second
day it was very different, very different bowl and second
defending a modest total pitch a different color.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Green had gone and instead of.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Gray cloud, topious gray cloud on the Saturday, suddenly there
was a vast sweep of blue Great Wellington Day.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
And so of course it.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Was a time not to use all those You couldn't
pick Shipley and folks together.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
They had to have a batsman.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
Yes, that was probably one era where they made a mistake.
As such, while we're talking about players and those players
you mentioned from Central Moose that they've got to be
seen at higher honors at some stage. But also the
Canterbury Boil he was launched a little bit in the final,
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but he the left hander, is a powerful, clean striker
of the ball as well, and I liked the look
of the way he plays at the top level.
Speaker 8 (31:11):
They've canob we've certainly had a habit of producing a
lot of very fine players. But but but but I
think as we've touched on and when we've known that
about Kenneby, and I agree with you about Boyle because
isn't his brother also playing in c D. Yeah, yep,
sons of one Justin Boyle. He also a Wellington to
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fire recall and pretty useful player his own right. But
but I I I think that what it was, what's
in what I've enjoyed about the supers messages, and I
see it's also a greater interest from the public. Perhaps
it's because it's free to be here. It's been covered
on one of the sports station a lot more than
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had previously. But what I'm also seeing is the emergence
of young players. You know, the couple we haven't mentioned
as the left arm from c D Lynux very the
young young quicker I think his name's Finley or we've
got three very important wickets. Yeah, that's that's the final.
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Well you and if you went around other teams, there
be other players there and I'm starting to see emerging
level of death. Now can they go on to the
national level? Who knows, But I'm rather buoyed by that
from what I see around and say, some very very
good players. I just would I don't think THO were
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in the current selection policies of how New Zealand cricket operate.
Whether there's much root for them because it's harder to
get out in so to speak, isn't it?
Speaker 5 (32:48):
But it may help the New Zealand game. I don't know,
but it's certainly something that we need to investigate. As
I say, the season's over, I'm just going to deliver
a bouncer.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
It's time on the front foot.
Speaker 6 (32:59):
Here he goes.
Speaker 8 (33:01):
The bouncer.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
You're not allowed to do it in Tea twenty cricket,
but I'm going to deliver a bouncer.
Speaker 6 (33:05):
It's all over.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
I won't miss the excessive celebrations that greet every wicket
taken and anything that is worthy of just a normal ovation.
And I won't miss the nonsensical, banal player interviews during
play that add nothing apart from the fact they breathe
heavily into the microphone because they're stressed, and they frankly
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add less than nothing to the tedious play by play
exchangers dodge that bounce up.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Well, well I'm going to agree with that. Not often
you and I do, you know, feel so happy, happy
towards each other, Brian. I just I just feel I
think that this whole drive towards getting closer and closer
to the game that comes from the broadcasters, and they
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always are trying to put the people and viewers as
if they're players, and that's not possible unless you climb
the fence and put some whites on and you selected.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
You know, it's it said, drive that, and you.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Don't really learn too much, You're quite right, you just
you just hear the usual sorts of things that the
occasional one who is going to tell you about the game,
then that's quite illuminating. But therefore you have to select
that player very carefully, and.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
I don't think they do.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
I'm sure the players just look at it as upon it,
you know, as oh you do it, I don't want
to do it, and no, I don't want to do that,
and and and so you give it, perhaps, you know,
to someone who I don't know whatever the reason is.
But I did see one that worked, and it was
a bowler in England left arm quick and he was
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on the mic at the same time he was bowling,
and he said, now I'm going to bowl this one here.
I'm going to bowl us such and such and see
because of so and so and I'm going to change
my field and he popped it around there, and you
give you became quite involved in the whole thing, but
he was actually bowling at the time, you know. So
that's different than speaking to someone way on the boundary
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who's getting feeling a bit cold.
Speaker 8 (35:19):
Well, and on that topic. The reason why I think
we're subjected to it is because there have been examples
of that, and I recall one in the Big Bash
when one s k Warn was bowling to McCallum and
said what he was going to bowl and truly did
And of course Shane Wold was not only he was
(35:41):
a phenomenal brigadar, but was actually pretty useful broadcaster, and
he said, I'm going to bowl this when I'm gonna
bowl that one, and then probably did and knocked him over.
McCallum there was and that that was just fabulous stuff.
But unfortunately you can't always repeat.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
That on the front foot with Waddle and Cony.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
Let's just finish up with well I slap on the
face for the oz Pat Cummens men have somehow missed
out on a place in the Wisden Test Team of
the Year and it's created a lot of controversy. Our
old friend Jim Maxwell made a comment that got himself
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into a bit of trouble with the Wisdom editor. Jim
said they are baz bullshitted, that's what he call them.
They need to play hard o versus this Ossie team,
and that I think that's typical of Jim. But the
team is Jaswell, Duckett, Williamson, Root, Brook, Mendus, Jamie Smith,
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the keeper, Jadajia Atkinson, Henry and Boomera. Now to a
certain extent, you know, all have a claim to a place,
but not to have an Australian or a South African
in consideration, to my mind, defies the purpose. Is it
all done just by stats?
Speaker 8 (37:11):
Clearly? Yeah, any other just there can't be any other
basis for that.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Yes, if you pick a side on averages alone, then
it's the players in the teams that play most games,
particularly at home, or you're playing opposition that are weaker sides,
or you're playing both of those things weaker sides at home,
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and then you what you get in the end is
just spurious teams. This side, for me, it only has
four bowlers. You know. The backup to the bowlers are
Roots and Brook and commandumendous, well command do menace is
only bowl He bowls left arm spin. He's only bowled
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seventeen overs and tests. Brookers are sort of a slow
medium bowler. It hardly bowls. And we know what Root
bowls as well. You know they're going to rely a
hell of a lot on Judasia. They've chosen the Aussie
way with the lion you see as the fourth bowler,
and they've chosen Judasia to do that job.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
That's okay when you're on turning.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Tracks, but then you know, do you need three seemas
if that's the case if you're on a turning track?
And what about if you're playing in Aussie on New Zealand,
South Africa or England and he gets through is over
so quickly the seemas don't even get a rest from bowling.
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So that seems that seems a very weird kind of
idea to me. Is Smith the best keeper? Jamie Smith?
He's only played nine Tests. He played three against the
West Indies in England. He played three against Sri Lanka
in England, not really having any threatening bowling, you know,
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opening bowl he opened the batting. Those two sides had
no warm up games to speak of. And then he
played three against Pakistan, he missed out when England got
eight hundred and thirty remember they got that or something
like that. And then he played against the two spinning
tracks and he didn't get many runs there. So I'm
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not sure whether he can say yet that he can
be judged as the Test.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Keeper of the year.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
What about Punt who missed a few Tests because of
his injuries, he still got thirty dismissals and averaged thirty
six as a keeper care He got forty six dismissals
in nine matches, got four hundred and fifty runs at
thirty three. What about Rizwan twenty two dismissals from seven matches,
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five hundred and thirty nine runs. If you want the
batsman averaging forty four, there are other players they could
have looked at.
Speaker 8 (40:11):
I don't know how you can have a team which
doesn't have Commons Indoor hazel Wood when informed Hasard have
been injury prone these days and you've got I mean,
I know Henry's got great a lot of wickets, but
I think I'm picking Hazelwood over Henry, and I'm certainly
picking Commons over Atkinson all day, every day.
Speaker 6 (40:28):
And how do you what about Roba?
Speaker 8 (40:31):
Well absolutely absolutely, you know wow, Yeah, that that then
becomes a real attack, doesn't it. You put Ravarda in there,
and and and the other two. I'm afraid our boy
probably has to miss out as do Zatkinson. But I
don't I don't get the number two two opening better
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in the world.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Well, that's correct, not Ducket either. Duckett there's a middle
order player transformed into an opener. He doesn't let the
ball go. No, who's heard of an opener who doesn't
let the ball go? Anyway?
Speaker 5 (41:08):
The new idea, Yeah, interesting talking point, and it's something
that we can probably we might try and get hold
of Jimmy Maxwell and see if we can get his
view on it at some stage. Might be something worth doing.
Jury we haven't crossed Gym for a while.
Speaker 7 (41:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
No, we'll have a credit with him and also invite
the Wisdom the guy the selector on as well.
Speaker 6 (41:30):
The Wisdom editor.
Speaker 5 (41:32):
Yeah, we'll get him in as well.
Speaker 8 (41:34):
Yeah, so that'd be good.
Speaker 6 (41:37):
Yeah, yeah, thanks guys.
Speaker 5 (41:40):
Having a year to here, I'm sure that we've all
settled into another month and we've got well, we've still
had an international competition coming up this week. We've got
the trip to Pakistan and the Champions Trophy. Pakistan are
coming out here and we've got Ford Trophy and the
hb J to look forward to. I'll see if I
can find another bouncer with a new ball for next week.
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I'm sure we can create some interest in Thanks Motion
Talk again.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Thank you too, Jerry, Thanks Mos, Yeah, cheers mate.
Speaker 6 (42:12):
You guys mine out well.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
Wonderful summart do
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Speaker 5 (00:48):
Hello, a month gone and the new year, and we're
back doing what we do best. Talking Cricket on the
Front Foot, which includes a prestigious accolade for immediate curve,
comes with no surprise named the ICC Women's Player of
the Year for twenty twenty four see twenty titles decided.
Has the standard improved in the New Zealand game by
the constant play in the short format? Will we ever
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be able to match the Ossies in promotion and crowd
numbers they gained from BBL, but we have outdone them.
The Wisdom World Test team has been named two black
Caps no Ossies a fair outcut. We'll discuss that final
eleven shortly. I thought i'd be just a little bit
parochial this morning, chaps wearing my cricket Wellington shirt.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
You'll have yours on.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I'm still in them a pajamas ones.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
I was going to ask that us the next question.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I always Wellington jerseys to bed.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Yes, exactly, yes, of course, Well a man who could
have two on this morning because he was a Central
Districts man and I don't know who he would have
wanted to win the title. And yeah, not yet, but
they didn't get anywhere.
Speaker 8 (02:03):
Okay, all right, well no, actually it was. It was
a perfect outcome. And I was clearly keep from my
old alumni to when the the men's version and thrilled
for the women took the wee women to win. So yeah, yeah,
I got, I got the I got the got the
Cornell there excellent.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
Yes, indeed, well that's that's good. Let's talk about somebody
who's got more than the Quernella. One of the stars
of the women's game, Amelia k first New Zealander to
win the Supreme Award and either the men's a women's
category of the ICC winning the Women's Player of the Year,
and for Amelia it was a special award ending what
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has been a demanding year.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Yeah, I mean after the year that I guess heat's
challenging periods for the group after ten losses on the bounce,
but did to win the World Cup was pretty special.
So that's obviously the highlight. And be able to contribute
for New Zealand and have the award at the end,
that's special, but it's not really something you play for. Yeah,
(03:10):
I think it's huge. I love playing for New Zealand,
I love representing the White Ferns. And for me, we
have an outstanding group of players and support staff and
I think within the last year my bowlings kind of
improved so much and a lot of that comes down
to the spin group we have. I love training with them,
the spin coach with we have with Paul Wiseman, and
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just the fun we have with the ability to work
hard in between. I think it's really important. And yeah,
go out there and enjoy my cricket, keep things simple
and love representing the team with some of the guest mates.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
So how special is it to be recognized among an
outstanding group of women cricketers.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Yeah, women's crickets growing and it's so good to see.
And yeah, the other players that were nominated. I think
we're also nominated for the fifty over it Player of
the Year. And yeah, there's so many amazing cricketers around
the world and we, I guess, get to see it
more in the international but also in franchise leagues where
sometimes you get to play with those players and it's
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so competitive. There's so many good players and it's just
awesome to see the growth of the women's game.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
So what's the plan for this year.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
It's a good question. I just been trying to get
better each and every year and work hard and find
little things that are going to make me better. But
I think this last year has been my bowling and
not much has changed necessarily, but I think TEA twenty
cricket players are coming hard at you, so just trying
to bowl my best bawl and have builds that match
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that and keeping it really simple, and it seemed to
work this year. We've also played in conditions that have
suited my bowling, and I guess to buy where the
watch ups are a bit slow and low, So I think, yeah,
things were in my favor as well, which helps.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
And yeah, just simple plans.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
What about the prospect of being asked to captain the
White Fans in the future.
Speaker 9 (05:02):
I'm not too sure at this stage.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
I think obviously she'd step down his Tea twenty captain
after the world and there's things to think about there,
and you know, after this well being break. I think
for me, it's just focusing on what's next. At the moment,
it's super smashed and trying to lead to Wellington Blaze
well and when that title is the goal and then yeah,
it's taking each thing as a thing as it comes.
(05:25):
And when if I get asked to captain, it's going
to be something to think about. It's not something you
just want to say yes or no too lately because
it's a huge onre to be out to captain new Zellen,
So it'll take some thought and if I do it
on and make sure I'm ready.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Well, a lot of contenders for that award, did Jerry,
but I think that it was probably ritually deserved across
all forms of the game. Really, Amelia cur has just
been a wonderful contributor to the woman's game. And you
know she's been playing ten years, she's only twenty four.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, you're right, Wa, it's been some journey for her,
hasn't it, and she rightly acknowledges, you know, all the
people that have played a part in the sort of
cricketer that she's become already, and there's a fair few
years left if she wants them. So I think she's
been personally New Zealand's best or round player for a
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few years now, and that's all the players. Frankly, I
guess because it was a t twenty World Cup year
that that played quite a significant part in deciding the
Player of the year, if you like. It was the
sort of the highlight. And certainly in that competition she excelled.
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You know, I know that she didn't score the most runs.
It wasn't an easy place to score runs. Actually, Dubai
and Charger, they get the ball kept a bit low
and it turned a bit and so it wasn't that
easy for batsmen. There are a lot of catchers dropped.
Hundreds of catchers dropped, weren't there in that in that tournament.
But just if you look at say her bowling, for example,
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she had six matches, which is more than some of
the other bowlers. Of course, making the final fifteen wickets,
which is the most of any player, averaging seven economy
rate of four point eight in the straight rate of nine, one.
Speaker 8 (07:22):
Bag of four.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
And if you then look at the people she got
outs in the final against South Africa, she got the
you know, the top player, wolf Art out from South
Africa dismissed her. She also dismissed the number three bosh.
Then you're to look in the wonder for the game
before that, the Semi and the West Indies, she got
DeAndre Dottin out there their top scorer and another thes
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two wickets. Pakistan she got Fatim Masana out, the top
scorer for Pakistan and two others. Sri Lanka she got Atapatu,
their top scorer. You can hear a pattern coming through,
can't you. She gets good players out and she's always
been even when they lost against Australia, Beth Mooney, Elise Parry,
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you know she got those players out and so she's
always done that and she gets good players out and
so that makes a heck of a difference to her side.
And then of course with the bat and the final,
she got the top score for New Zealand forty three
or thirty eight. So you know she's a key player.
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There's no doubt about it. She's also could I just
mentioned the catching. She is by far and away our
most accurate catcher. I'm not saying she doesn't drop catch
as ever, everyone does, but on that particular tournament, catchers
went down like mellow puffs and a church vestry meeting
and it was just that was to be honest, I mean,
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she was way ahead of everybody else there as well.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
So is that where I go to get my mellow
puffs in a church vestry meeting?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
You do what you do, That's exactly where you go. Boy,
that's right, you.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Mos. I watched her play in the T two D
finals over the weekend and you know, I instantly think
of the female version of Kin Williamson. Is that a
fair comparison.
Speaker 8 (09:24):
Well in the woman's game, yes and no. But her
ability as an all rounder, as a truly, truly, very
probably I argue you the best all round her in
women's cricket. It's hard to go past that. I mean,
she does it. And Jerry's point around. She she gets
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the best players out, she gets wickets, and that's not
just in New Zealand. I mean I think she's just
pretty much far too good for most of the people
in domestic cricket. But she gets the best of the
internationals out and that just says something and then and
then goes in and that's it one or two or three. No, No,
she's she's sister. Just just a class act. So perhaps
(10:08):
even more because I don't think Cane bowls anymore or
throws or whatever he used to do. So yeah, I'm
a huge fan and of course just another great player
out of Wellington, and yeah we should.
Speaker 7 (10:22):
Know this.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
I was just referring mainly to her batting and her
ability to be innovative without taking risks or playing odd shots.
I mean I watched her do what Glenn Turner used
to do when the ODI game was first started, looking
for areas to score.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
He used to chip the.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
Ball back over the bowler's head until they found a
way of coming out. And she did that perfectly against
Northern to get them through to a defendable total. I thought,
you know, that is the sort of thinking that you
need to be an achiever at the top level, and
it comes to her naturally quite clearly.
Speaker 8 (10:59):
When I see a medicurve bat, I mean, she's a
beautiful batter in the current current parlance. She plays cricket shot,
whereas I think some of the some of her colleagues
don't quite have that ability and therefore resort to, shall
we say, somewhat more funky versions of trying to get runs.
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But she just has the ability to, as you say,
play beautiful shots and then when she needs to she
can play the ramp and whatever else. You No, she's
some class act one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I think I watched her a little bit in the weekend.
It's interesting, Wadds when you look at she started. I
don't know how old she was when she started playing
for New Zealand. Was twenty sixteen. She can't have been
too oixteen. Yeah she started.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Yeah, well, she.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Batted anywhere between ten, number ten and number six at
the start. Early on they obviously regarded her as a
bowler first and then a batsman.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
But she moved up, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
In twenty and twenty she went to number five and
got runs there, and then number four she got that
two hundred and thirty not out against Ireland actually that
would help the average. And then she in twenty twenty
two she became our number three basically, And I think
I agree with Moose in the sense that you know,
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you generally have your best all round batsman in the side.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
At that position.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
You handle the new ball if you have to, you
lose an early wicket, you handle the powerplay if you're
playing ODIs and t twenties. And then when the advantage
of the relaxation of the field restriction and the gaps appear,
she can take advantage of that playing orthodox cricket shots.
And it particularly is obvious to me when she plays
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in the off side. On the off side, she which
it's a stroke that relies more on body shape. I'm
not thinking about a cut, because those those big hitters
can play cuts as well, but they can't play drives.
The bottom hand comes into play and they heave it
through mid on or they even try and go squarer
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as they you know, they look to supply a lot
of power to the stroke and so but she doesn't
do that.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
She drives.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
She drives over the bowler, she drives over the covers,
she drives along the ground, she punches.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Off the back foot. She's got all the shots.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
That's not to say she's perfect, but you know, she
has all the shots, and so she can play the
appropriate shot to the ball. That's bold to her and
so you see that. You can see it straight away.
She's averaging something like forty nine and nod eyes at
number three.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
So she is our best player and she adapts.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
I thought in the weekend she dragged her Wellington team
on too.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
She dragged them by the scruff of the neck. Come
with me to win this.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
We got low scores, two low scores, one against Northern
and one against Otago, who bowled beautifully, I thought.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
But she just dragged them along, said we can win this.
We can win a little bit of help from the.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Ossies, a couple of Ossie mates because she plays over
there in the Big Bash. But nevertheless, you know she
was the one pulling them along, no doubt about that
in my mind.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
Yeah, and she was needed to.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Of course, I know all sides have injury problems, but
Wellington had something like six of their front line first
team picks injured. Leek Casperick with a broken thumb, Zara
Gently with a broken hand. There's another player I forget
to name who has a hand injury, the girl Plimmer.
(14:55):
She's recovering from a legan injury. Yeah, she's away from
the team now, so you know it's tough, particularly in
the women's game where they don't have quite the depth
that might be valuable if the men's side have have
an injury. So you know, she's she's certainly a remarkable player,
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I think, quite clearly the next choice as captain, although
you wonder what that will do to her game at
the top level, whether she's going to have to take
even more responsibility than.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
She does now.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
But she seems to handle that responsibility with ease, doesn't she.
Speaker 8 (15:33):
Oh? She she seems to be have a very calm demeanor.
I really like her demeanor. There's a calmness about it,
much as Kam Williamson has. There's no panic. And I guess, yeah,
defending one one hundred and four runs, well, they had
a precedent from the prior year where they defended something
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like eighty odd runs, And yes, so they wasn't their
first rodeo so to speak. But also I was quite
I thought it was great to have a couple of
Australians out playing in our our game, you know, exposure
to them fantastic and and I wish we could have
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more of that to a certain extent and now domestic game,
but that's another that's another topic of course. But and
they did pretty well on my dad and contributed yeah much.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Yeah, well, at some stage we can have that discussion.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Brian Waddell, Jeremy Coney on the front foot.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
The Stags and the Blaze, the Dream eleven, the Super
Smash champions, the Stags winning for the fourth time and
Wellington Blaze going back to back in a competition they've dominated.
She can't stay out of the news too long.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
Medi Kerr.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
She led the Blaze to success in a tight, low
scoring match much the same as the elimination final on
the Saturday. But she's class and has the knack of
making good decisions even if she isn't the dominant individual
now wonder she was happy. A great title to secure and.
Speaker 9 (17:03):
So so so time to go back to back and
to do it defending a load, I mean after twenty
overs when you hit to bowl well and just fight
like how to win that game. And the character of
the team showed not this year but last year as well.
It's yeah, I'm so proud of the group. If you
told me at the start of the day, I would
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have taken more than one hundred and five or whatever
it was every single day, So I didn't think it
was enough, but I believe every minute that we could
win that game. And with run rate pressure and with
taking wickets, we stayed in the fight. I'd love to
play a fine and where we make it easier for ourselves.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
But yeah, it's very special.
Speaker 9 (17:43):
Yeah, I think first and foremost it's about winning the
power play. There's two fielders out they can take the
game on and just set the tone with five dots
to start and just keeping on building pressure. And then
Hannah Darlington was exceptional today to take four in a final.
The wickets she got were massive and I think every
bowler stepped up and played their role. Yeah, I'm so proud.
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I think nothing's faced us this year. We have two
new coaches at the start of the campaign. They've been exceptional,
so calm, and they've helped this group massively in a
short space of time. And then to lose a lot
of key players for us and to turn up today
and for the whole comp with injured players that are
on the sideline and to believe every single day is
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the most most important thing. And that's what I'm most
proud of.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
And the coach you referred to as Johnny Bassett Graham,
who was coach of the under nineteen men's team and
he joined the Blaze midway through this season. At the
twenty twenty competition.
Speaker 10 (18:40):
Two pretty fantastic games of cricket. Though, so very proud
of the effort.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
The women had to play it pretty hard last year
and it was as close as last year's contest as
well this year's wasn't it.
Speaker 10 (18:53):
Yeah, very much so. I guess I had the fortune
of watching that game at home last year. But really
cool to see how, I guess the character of this team.
They never say die, attitude, the fight to the end,
and I guess just a yeah makes up then come
from a pretty tough situations. Yeah, a really cool moment
for us.
Speaker 9 (19:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Character is important too for this team this year in
particular because you had to do it the hard way.
Every side gets troubled by injuries, but you had a
fair feast of.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
Them, didn't you.
Speaker 10 (19:23):
Yeah, we did, and pretty pretty big players for their
scroup in terms of what they add to the team
and the individual performances, so you're obviously big losses and yeah,
I guess it does show the character and the fight
of this team how they were able to do it.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
You're new to coaching the side, what was the key
to you in terms of coming to grips with coaching
this team that has a proud record in this competition too.
Speaker 10 (19:51):
Yeah, I think I've made a pretty conscious effort remind
the whole team that it's their success that they've had
along the way to get here. It's, you know, a
slight change and coaching set up shouldn't really impact that.
It's very much just keeping on the recipe that they
had that's been so successful over the years. And I
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guess just trying to keep them mie and calm, level
headed and remind them that the game the players there
to be enjoyed, so we've tried to just keep mice
and relaxed and enjoyable. I guess, how did you feel
with just one hundred and five on the board trying
to defend that you would have loved a little bit
more to defend for sure. I guess I was really
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confident in our ability in the field, and I guess
the ballers across the board have the ability to squeeze
or take wickets at different stages, so you're always hopeful.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
So I suppose you're also fortunate you have a world
class player leading the side as well, and that makes
a big difference in any team. I know she's only
one person and the team make the performances, but it's
nice to have that as your lead.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Wasn't it.
Speaker 10 (21:02):
Yeah, she's a fantastic person first and foremost. How she's
led this side as and truly awesome just to watch
and be a part of. She's got a great cricket
brain on her. We know how skillful she can be,
and I guess, yeah, in big moments she's she's won
in the ball in particular, and then it's just capable
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of opening the game up and turning turning a game
on its head, I guess, which I think she did
twice yesterday in the elimination final and then again today's
sort of put us in a much better position.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
Yeah, because I guess she must have looked at Otago
and thought, well, you know they've being the front runners
and they have a pretty good.
Speaker 10 (21:41):
Sigh Yeah too, right, and you know they beat us
twice in the sort of pool play well round robin stages,
and yeah, it's always going to be a tough game
against them one and they've got a lot of depth.
They're Buddy WAF coached by Craig and yeah, just happy
to be on the.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
End of a w there in the country.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
To my belief, Central Districts overpowered the black Cap Riddle
at Canterbury Kings with Will Young showing the skills and
resilience to withstand the powerful Cannedy bowling attack.
Speaker 11 (22:13):
Yeah, awesome to be here today. Finish, finish, top of
the table, go straight through the final and hold our
nerve against a really quality Cannibory side. I can't wait
to get into the sheds shortly with the boys and celebrate.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
Yeah, the top of the table.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
As you say, in terms of qualifying, what's the reason
for the success of the side this year? Because it's
a difficult comp isn't it It is?
Speaker 11 (22:34):
Yeah, you know, anything can happen in TI twenty cricket.
But one thing we did say early in the comp,
off the back of some competitions, but we've sort of
been slow starters. We said, look, let's let's take every
game as if it's a final. It's an opportunity to
showcase our skills and and and play with a smile
on our face. And that's something that we've or a
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bit of a mantra really that we've we've had in
this group. And I suppose we showed up to the
basin today and it was business as usual. Another final,
another opportunity to do just that, to show what we
can do and and smile and represent Central dis priet.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
People have a chance to assess how strong the competition
was this year. Was the quality what you would have
expected from TEA twenty Yeah.
Speaker 11 (23:17):
I think I've always thought that Super Smash is of
a really high quality. I mean, you just saw today
the amount of black Caps that were in the final.
It was awesome to see. And and there's black Caps
right throughout right throughout the Supersmash teams. There's obviously a
bit of a juggling act with the international calendar and guys,
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you know, wanting to rest and make sure that they're
fully prepared and ready to go and called upon for
black Caps duty. But I think it's awesome that the
guys come back and pay for their play for their
domestic sides as well.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
Yeah, towards the end with the international players and it
showed the value that they can bring.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
You know, you're gonna cook Canterbury. They had an international
bowling attack. They short. Yeah.
Speaker 11 (23:57):
Yeah, at one stage Henry Shipley was on the sidelines.
Has obviously paid for New Zealand. So it's a hell
of a bowling attack. And as you say, like other
black Caps like Darrell Mitchell came in and you know,
that cool head and the a man for a crisis.
I guess you could say, you know, he really got
really helped put Cannibury on a roll and gain some
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momentum and they went from bottom of the table to
the finals. It's amazing how quickly it can happen. So yeah,
fair play to them. They had some real wind in
their sails heading into this final, so it was awesome
to put a stop to that and yeah finish on top.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Yeah, you and Dane Flema looked to you had some
inventum and some desire to win absolutely.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (24:38):
Yeah, played with Dame for a hell of a long
time now, so it was awesome to share a partnership
with him in the middle and get us off to
a good start at the top.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
So now you're off to the international scene again, way overseas.
You don't get time of a rest after this one, no, no.
Speaker 11 (24:53):
Just quick insight. So I get back to ap just
after ten tomorrow and then I'm back at the airport
at three o'clock to fly to or start the journey
to Pakistan. So yeah, yeah, just answer the next thing,
and yeah, Pakistan will be a really interesting challenge. We've
got to try series first up with South Africa, US
and Pakistan, and then Champions Trophy will come around real quick.
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And that's the top best best eche sides in the world,
so it's a really exciting prospect.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
And subcontinent teams in conditions that they know and enjoy,
that's right.
Speaker 11 (25:24):
And we've got all subcontinent teams on our side of
the pool, so there's no easy games and there's no
easy beat so we're going to have to hit the
ground running over there. But as I said before, it's
really exciting and I can't wait to get over there
and get stuck in.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
Thanks few time, going still rate with you, miheah, Thanks
very much, Frie.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
Yeah, interesting point you made earlier Moose about the Australian
women being part of the New Zealand competition. I think
you're right in terms of the women's game, they certainly
need overseas experience and that kind of quality just around
the dressing room and being able to help their players,
because we've got a lot of work to do with
our women's game to bring it along. And add to
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that point the fact that in the final Canterbury had
the US bowling attack, you know, five impressive, irresistible bowlers
who demolished Northern districts in the elimination semi final, but
were handled well by Dame Cleaver and by will Young.
But that lifts the quality of your game and your competition,
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doesn't it.
Speaker 8 (26:28):
I don't think there's any question about that. And and
I wanted to to to touch on the fact that
there was some discussion on the television about that the
Wicked where he wasn't he was too paced as they
often say and such like. But but then when you
when you when you watched Young and Dame Cleaver in
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my god, that now there's there is an underrated player,
isn't it? Together with their captain Bruce two very fine players.
But coming back to it, the way that Young in
particular just says what a class act he is. Just
play beautifully handled a very very good attack from Canterbury
with a plum and I'm very measured and they won
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up with ease, didn't they fantastic because it's a lot
of unheld and young players in that CD team, and
you know, there's a lot about what they've done in
this system and how they brought young players on. I know,
I actually enjoyed that. I really did enjoyed seeing them
win too, and comprehensively young though, very very good, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yeah, look, I agree with the youth policies that they
seem to have chosen.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
I mean, boil the young opener.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Clark, I didn't know much about who came in towards
the end and played some beautiful couple of beautiful drives
or Heathy was it might have been Heathe? Yeah, Heathey
sure came and bowled his offices. I thought that was
I mean, it's really I think it's great that we're
seeing some of these junsters coming in and they're obviously
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reasonable quality players. And so even despite the fact that
Young and Kleaver are a little older, and you know,
Cleaver hit it very cleanly, didn't he. He picked up
the links early on and attacked and looked to take
the quicks on. Young just played a measured, anchored innings
as we know that he can, and that helped when
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you're chasing.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
You don't want to lose early wickets.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
When you're chasing a low total, you put yourself under pressure.
You stick or twist. Sometimes you don't know whether to
attack or how to play, but he did so. I
was pleased that they also bowled pretty well. I thought
on that pitch, you know, using the slower bouncer and
things like that, that that claimed wickets, getting men caught
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a deep third man and that sort of stuff. So
well done to CD, I thought Kenton. They were certainly
surely a batsman light You can't. You cannot select a
side that has o'rour, Jamison, Henry and then Shipley and folks.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
You can't. You can't have.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Five seamers and then have Sody in there as well
as sixth bowler. A seventh bowler is Maconchie and then
you could use Mitchell for a couple of overs. They
just got too many bowlers, so that really is a
mistake by Canterbury.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
I think.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
They needed another batsman in there, and so it was costing,
not the first day, what it does when you get
all those bowlers, and especially in the semi final. I
just thought it made the toss too important. You win
the toss and bowl of those bowlers and they what
were they fought five down for seven runs Northern I
(30:02):
think something, yeah, So I mean it was it was
that ruins the ga actually unfortunately, but in the second
day it was very different, very different bowl and second
defending a modest total pitch a different color.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Green had gone and instead of.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Gray cloud, topious gray cloud on the Saturday, suddenly there
was a vast sweep of blue Great Wellington Day.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
And so of course it.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Was a time not to use all those You couldn't
pick Shipley and folks together.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
They had to have a batsman.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
Yes, that was probably one era where they made a mistake.
As such, while we're talking about players and those players
you mentioned from Central Moose that they've got to be
seen at higher honors at some stage. But also the
Canterbury Boil he was launched a little bit in the final,
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but he the left hander, is a powerful, clean striker
of the ball as well, and I liked the look
of the way he plays at the top level.
Speaker 8 (31:11):
They've canob we've certainly had a habit of producing a
lot of very fine players. But but but but I
think as we've touched on and when we've known that
about Kenneby, and I agree with you about Boyle because
isn't his brother also playing in c D. Yeah, yep,
sons of one Justin Boyle. He also a Wellington to
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fire recall and pretty useful player his own right. But
but I I I think that what it was, what's
in what I've enjoyed about the supers messages, and I
see it's also a greater interest from the public. Perhaps
it's because it's free to be here. It's been covered
on one of the sports station a lot more than
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had previously. But what I'm also seeing is the emergence
of young players. You know, the couple we haven't mentioned
as the left arm from c D Lynux very the
young young quicker I think his name's Finley or we've
got three very important wickets. Yeah, that's that's the final.
(32:16):
Well you and if you went around other teams, there
be other players there and I'm starting to see emerging
level of death. Now can they go on to the
national level? Who knows, But I'm rather buoyed by that
from what I see around and say, some very very
good players. I just would I don't think THO were
(32:39):
in the current selection policies of how New Zealand cricket operate.
Whether there's much root for them because it's harder to
get out in so to speak, isn't it?
Speaker 5 (32:48):
But it may help the New Zealand game. I don't know,
but it's certainly something that we need to investigate. As
I say, the season's over, I'm just going to deliver
a bouncer.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
It's time on the front foot.
Speaker 6 (32:59):
Here he goes.
Speaker 8 (33:01):
The bouncer.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
You're not allowed to do it in Tea twenty cricket,
but I'm going to deliver a bouncer.
Speaker 6 (33:05):
It's all over.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
I won't miss the excessive celebrations that greet every wicket
taken and anything that is worthy of just a normal ovation.
And I won't miss the nonsensical, banal player interviews during
play that add nothing apart from the fact they breathe
heavily into the microphone because they're stressed, and they frankly
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add less than nothing to the tedious play by play
exchangers dodge that bounce up.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Well, well I'm going to agree with that. Not often
you and I do, you know, feel so happy, happy
towards each other, Brian. I just I just feel I
think that this whole drive towards getting closer and closer
to the game that comes from the broadcasters, and they
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always are trying to put the people and viewers as
if they're players, and that's not possible unless you climb
the fence and put some whites on and you selected.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
You know, it's it said, drive that, and you.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Don't really learn too much, You're quite right, you just
you just hear the usual sorts of things that the
occasional one who is going to tell you about the game,
then that's quite illuminating. But therefore you have to select
that player very carefully, and.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
I don't think they do.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
I'm sure the players just look at it as upon it,
you know, as oh you do it, I don't want
to do it, and no, I don't want to do that,
and and and so you give it, perhaps, you know,
to someone who I don't know whatever the reason is.
But I did see one that worked, and it was
a bowler in England left arm quick and he was
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on the mic at the same time he was bowling,
and he said, now I'm going to bowl this one here.
I'm going to bowl us such and such and see
because of so and so and I'm going to change
my field and he popped it around there, and you
give you became quite involved in the whole thing, but
he was actually bowling at the time, you know. So
that's different than speaking to someone way on the boundary
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who's getting feeling a bit cold.
Speaker 8 (35:19):
Well, and on that topic. The reason why I think
we're subjected to it is because there have been examples
of that, and I recall one in the Big Bash
when one s k Warn was bowling to McCallum and
said what he was going to bowl and truly did
And of course Shane Wold was not only he was
(35:41):
a phenomenal brigadar, but was actually pretty useful broadcaster, and
he said, I'm going to bowl this when I'm gonna
bowl that one, and then probably did and knocked him over.
McCallum there was and that that was just fabulous stuff.
But unfortunately you can't always repeat.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
That on the front foot with Waddle and Cony.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
Let's just finish up with well I slap on the
face for the oz Pat Cummens men have somehow missed
out on a place in the Wisden Test Team of
the Year and it's created a lot of controversy. Our
old friend Jim Maxwell made a comment that got himself
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into a bit of trouble with the Wisdom editor. Jim
said they are baz bullshitted, that's what he call them.
They need to play hard o versus this Ossie team,
and that I think that's typical of Jim. But the
team is Jaswell, Duckett, Williamson, Root, Brook, Mendus, Jamie Smith,
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the keeper, Jadajia Atkinson, Henry and Boomera. Now to a
certain extent, you know, all have a claim to a place,
but not to have an Australian or a South African
in consideration, to my mind, defies the purpose. Is it
all done just by stats?
Speaker 8 (37:11):
Clearly? Yeah, any other just there can't be any other
basis for that.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Yes, if you pick a side on averages alone, then
it's the players in the teams that play most games,
particularly at home, or you're playing opposition that are weaker sides,
or you're playing both of those things weaker sides at home,
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and then you what you get in the end is
just spurious teams. This side, for me, it only has
four bowlers. You know. The backup to the bowlers are
Roots and Brook and commandumendous, well command do menace is
only bowl He bowls left arm spin. He's only bowled
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seventeen overs and tests. Brookers are sort of a slow
medium bowler. It hardly bowls. And we know what Root
bowls as well. You know they're going to rely a
hell of a lot on Judasia. They've chosen the Aussie
way with the lion you see as the fourth bowler,
and they've chosen Judasia to do that job.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
That's okay when you're on turning.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Tracks, but then you know, do you need three seemas
if that's the case if you're on a turning track?
And what about if you're playing in Aussie on New Zealand,
South Africa or England and he gets through is over
so quickly the seemas don't even get a rest from bowling.
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So that seems that seems a very weird kind of
idea to me. Is Smith the best keeper? Jamie Smith?
He's only played nine Tests. He played three against the
West Indies in England. He played three against Sri Lanka
in England, not really having any threatening bowling, you know,
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opening bowl he opened the batting. Those two sides had
no warm up games to speak of. And then he
played three against Pakistan, he missed out when England got
eight hundred and thirty remember they got that or something
like that. And then he played against the two spinning
tracks and he didn't get many runs there. So I'm
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not sure whether he can say yet that he can
be judged as the Test.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Keeper of the year.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
What about Punt who missed a few Tests because of
his injuries, he still got thirty dismissals and averaged thirty
six as a keeper care He got forty six dismissals
in nine matches, got four hundred and fifty runs at
thirty three. What about Rizwan twenty two dismissals from seven matches,
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five hundred and thirty nine runs. If you want the
batsman averaging forty four, there are other players they could
have looked at.
Speaker 8 (40:11):
I don't know how you can have a team which
doesn't have Commons Indoor hazel Wood when informed Hasard have
been injury prone these days and you've got I mean,
I know Henry's got great a lot of wickets, but
I think I'm picking Hazelwood over Henry, and I'm certainly
picking Commons over Atkinson all day, every day.
Speaker 6 (40:28):
And how do you what about Roba?
Speaker 8 (40:31):
Well absolutely absolutely, you know wow, Yeah, that that then
becomes a real attack, doesn't it. You put Ravarda in there,
and and and the other two. I'm afraid our boy
probably has to miss out as do Zatkinson. But I
don't I don't get the number two two opening better
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in the world.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Well, that's correct, not Ducket either. Duckett there's a middle
order player transformed into an opener. He doesn't let the
ball go. No, who's heard of an opener who doesn't
let the ball go? Anyway?
Speaker 5 (41:08):
The new idea, Yeah, interesting talking point, and it's something
that we can probably we might try and get hold
of Jimmy Maxwell and see if we can get his
view on it at some stage. Might be something worth doing.
Jury we haven't crossed Gym for a while.
Speaker 7 (41:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
No, we'll have a credit with him and also invite
the Wisdom the guy the selector on as well.
Speaker 6 (41:30):
The Wisdom editor.
Speaker 5 (41:32):
Yeah, we'll get him in as well.
Speaker 8 (41:34):
Yeah, so that'd be good.
Speaker 6 (41:37):
Yeah, yeah, thanks guys.
Speaker 5 (41:40):
Having a year to here, I'm sure that we've all
settled into another month and we've got well, we've still
had an international competition coming up this week. We've got
the trip to Pakistan and the Champions Trophy. Pakistan are
coming out here and we've got Ford Trophy and the
hb J to look forward to. I'll see if I
can find another bouncer with a new ball for next week.
(42:03):
I'm sure we can create some interest in Thanks Motion
Talk again.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Thank you too, Jerry, Thanks Mos, Yeah, cheers mate.
Speaker 6 (42:12):
You guys mine out well.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
Wonderful summart do
Speaker 1 (42:23):
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