January 22, 2025 • 19 mins
On Sports Fix with D'Arcy Waldegrave and Jason Pine for Thursday 23 January 2025, former New Zealand all-rounder Chris Cairns talks about the future of the 'Super Smash' competition, and why it needs to join Australia's 'Big Bash'.
D'Arcy delivers an opinion piece on why Auckland FC are saving football for him.
Plus, the lads jump into the panel to discuss yet more drama between the journalists and players at the Australian Open.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
This is Thoughtsfix Howard by News Talks.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Ed Bhllio there and welcome into a new episode of
the Sportsbooks podcast. And for the first time in twenty
twenty five, the two of us are together. They've let
us loose again. I'm Jason Pine.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
And I go back to a song by was it
Peaches and Herb from back in the eighties? Reunited and
it feels a good reunitic Sorry about that? You remember
that track?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Don't you?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Piney? How are you mate?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I'm really good and actually a good rendition by you too.
I can't really false it too much.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Look it.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
It's good to be reunited talking sport again in twenty
twenty five.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
What do it every weekday? And on a Thursday and
or Friday we get the chance to do it together.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
We do have a bit to kick around today, including
Auckland FC's late late show last night. I know you've
got some thoughts on that, so Ossie open and host
match interviews.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Who's our interview today?
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Speaking of interviews, well, Chris Kens joins us to further
add fuel to the fire talking about this yesterday on
the podcast, about the combination of Super Smash and Big Bash.
Where it goes? Should it go in that direction? Why
is it not going in this direction? What do we lose?
What do we gain? Chris Kens joins us to discuss that,
because there's no cricket really on at the moment, so
(01:31):
I'm going to try and get in there somehow, Binny.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Nothing wrong with it. Looking forward to hearing from Chris Kens.
Heeps to get through, so let's get into it. In
other news, let's get underway. Whether a look at some
of the biggest sports stories floating around today. Defending men's
champion Yannick Sinner has squashed the charge of local hope
Alex Demonor in straight sets in the quarterfinals that the
Aussie Tennis opened today.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Was a very great match from my side. They served
very well, breaking quite the early. Need said, was very
important for me and for my game. So yeah, for
sure was the best match after tournament's.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Crew to CEO Colin Man's Bridge believes New Zealand Rugby's
eligibility laws remain adequate that after Richie Moore unger signals
hit his intention Viru's agent to see out his contract
with Tashiba in Japan rather than returning home in the
middle of this year.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
On the one hand, you want to have the best
available prize that you can have at any point in time,
but then in doing something, you don't want to chop
the leagus of the system off and make it less
effective than it's been.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
And another Manchester City bottle job has left the English
football powerhouse and the elimination zone. With a round to
play in the Champions League Group stage, City of Blinder
two mil lead at Paris Jermain to lose four to two.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
His boss Pep Guardiola, there.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Were bear they were a Kruger faster. They win the
dwells with the ball.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
They have one woman in the middle and we could
not cope with that. They are fast except to defeat
because the best in one leading a vex. We've got
just the ticket.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
It's Sports Vix powered by News Talks IV.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
I'm Greagat on the program now and good day to
Chris Ken's Chris. Welcome to the show. How do I
trust you well? Looking forward to a great twenty twenty
five and some wonderful cricket and all your focus currently
is about the T twenty game, the combination between Australia
and New Zealand, the Big Bash and the Super Smash.
(03:28):
Why is this not a team? Why is this not
the same sport? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (03:32):
Why is it not a thing? I agree to look
over that whole Christmas New Year period. I mean, there
was obviously that New Zealand England series and then we
had a you know, just a delightful series with the
Indians and Ausies over there, and then it's rolled into
the Big Bash and of course the New Zealand comp
(03:52):
But look, I mean, I've got to be honest, I
haven't seen any of the New Zealand compy. I just
you know, it's sort of downplayed a bit, and you know,
the Big Bash seems to be the premiere property on TV.
But I think I'm not sure I've talked to you
about it before, But I you know, I've often questioned why,
(04:12):
you know, why our players aren't in the comp And
you know, if we look at the soccer that occurs
with Wellington and Auckland involved in the Australian comp we
look obviously with the Warriors and and what they what
they do and what they have and then we've got
Super Rugby. But for some reason cricket seems to be lagging.
And I don't know whether that's a Cricket Australia thing mate,
(04:33):
that is perhaps not as forthcoming as what New Zealand
cricket wanted to be. But it sort of makes sense
to have not I don't I don't think there should
be one team. I'd have two. I'd have an Auckland
team and a Custis team in it.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
So what does this stand to gain for the Australians.
I suppose that's what you're going to look at. What's
in it for them?
Speaker 7 (04:50):
Well? Five million people. I mean it's a It's a
market right at the end of the day. And I
think it strengthens the competition too, because I do think
at the moment, and this is another thing that I've
often wondered about about how New Zealand is a classed
as international players going over to play in Aussie in
the big bag. But you know, all the other leagues
(05:11):
and teams that operate in the winter coats the seam
Tom brace New Zealanders within their outfit and they have
numerous players. Look, we know that the All Blacks have
an issue with players playing outside of New Zealand, and
you know they can't wear the black jersey if they
head away. But from a cricketing perspective, you know, if
(05:32):
you took out, for example, there's eight Big Bash teams, right,
so if you took out, so that's eighty eight players
who are playing first and foremost. If you took out
the lack of a better term, the worst twenty players.
If you injected the best twenty New Zealand players into
that competition as it currently stands, the level of quality
(05:53):
and the level of play would raise straight away overnight.
So you know, having New Zealanders in that comp but
then opening it up to having New Zealand teams into
the camp as well. At the moment they've got eight
teams at pay ten games. They could easily have ten
or eleven teams and still play ten games pay each
other one. So look at the theories all there, why
(06:16):
it hasn't been explored. Look, I'm sure they're talking about it,
but yeah, I just find it astounding that, you know,
they're not talking about it more and moving towards a
solution to get New Zealand or New Zealand teams into
the Big Batch.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
I think Christians is fair to say New Zealand cricket
have been very front forward. They really have been right
the way through the last few years, so they probably
are thinking about it. I'm suspecting that the effect on
the local game and how that would affect suppose gay
income crowds who can go regularly over the summer period
to these matches, that would probably be first and foremost putting,
(06:49):
as I say, the fan at the center of the
room and worrying about their own backyard.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
Yeah, a good point, although it has it a guests
that I don't know if the Smash would run at
the profit mate, I would guess it would run the
loss when you look at the costs involved in the travel,
all the requirements for compliance, that around what they charge
to get into the gate. You know, I'd be really
interested to have a look and see what the plus
(07:15):
minus is on the Smash itself as a competition, and
so you know, what would happen if we had teams
in the Big Bash will again probably similar to what
happens here at a national level for soccer or for
rugby league, there are competitions that exist. I mean, if
I'm running two teams in the Big Bash from a
New Zealand perspective. And look, there's two great brands just
(07:37):
sitting there in the Auckland Bass and the Cannery Wizards. Right,
So if those two teams advance into the Big Bash,
we still run the T twenty competition, but take it
to the holiday places, take it to Nelson and take
it to the Mount and you know, take it to
New Plymouth around that summertime Christmas period. And you know
(07:59):
the players in that competition, does there's a pathway for
them to get into the Big Bash. So I don't
see it as a negative. It just yeah, it just
has to thought through. But as I say, you've got
two great franchises and the Aces and the Woods sitting
there waiting to be injected into the Big Bash.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Are details why Chris Kens, would you open these two
franchises up to all the Australians as well? Will they
essentially become the same as as the Sixers, all the
Thunder as far as who can they employ?
Speaker 7 (08:28):
Yeah, undred percent. Again we're just using the NROL model, right.
It's just the opportunity for some Australian players to come
and play out here. If you know, if the franchise
wants to do that, but given New Zealand sort of
cricket schedule now seems to sort of follow the Australian
schedule darts where it sort of stops after that box
(08:49):
I saw of the New Year's Test in Sydney and
then and then sort of picks up whether it be
in February or whatnot. So there is that that window.
I mean, I'd much rather personally, I mean, Martin Guptall's playing,
you know here in that smash car. I'd much rather
stand plane than the big Bash, you know, like I mean,
and the other New Zealand players that are sitting out,
get them into that comp. You know, there's great international players.
(09:12):
The TV contracts are going to be to be worth more,
the players are going to be paid more. So there's
upside for everybody. And look, I'm sure they're talking about this.
The administrators would have to be doing that, but it's
just a case of how they do it. But you know,
putting a can every team and an orphan teament for me,
it just makes a whole lot of sense.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Really.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Finally, Chris, you can know that go all the way.
Speaker 7 (09:35):
I know he's he's ridiculous but I look, I must
confess that my daughter's an up and coming young tennis
player and I was, and she's doing she's doing really well.
She's doing great. But and so I'm a I'm a
sort of a I've gone down the rabbit hole on
the Sennas side of things. And it's a great sport.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
I love it.
Speaker 7 (09:55):
They look watching him, but then watching sinner and and
what he his body went through, you know a couple
of days ago when he was crook mate and then
came out and and and won that. Man, you know,
I just he's he's going to be so hard to
be but don't it's very off. Another's another one, right,
(10:16):
So he's and he's into the long haul. So whether
Jokovic has got this sort of injury, he always seems
to get these little injuries that no one's ever quite
sure about, you know, So he plays these games. But
I'll tell you what it's. It's it's going to be
those semi finals and then into the final. But I
think I'll be on center if he's healthy. But yeah, God,
(10:36):
going against Jocovic, you know that you'd have to think
that man, he's a he's a man driven, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Cricket and tennis will get you back for golf next.
Chris Keene sends for me your time mate, You go well,
we'll talk soon.
Speaker 7 (10:47):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
This is sports Figs, your daily dose of sports news.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
How invite news talks.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Strange days, strange days for me. Anyway, I'm turning more
and more into a football fan. Yeah, he's finally caught
up with the rest of the world. And who do
I put that down too? I've got to be said.
The increased competition in the A League between two New
Zealand sides. I'm still barracking for Wellington Phoenix. Known these
(11:18):
guys for a long long time, love what they do,
love what they've done for New Zealand football and what
they carry on doing in that space. But the introduction
of Auckland FC, and again, these guys are good humans.
I enjoy speaking with their players, I enjoyed speaking with
their coach, so on and so forth. Even though I'm
a Phoenix fan, I can't stop watching AKFC as much
(11:41):
as I watched the Wellington Phoenix last night's game. AKFC
did something quite astonishing the last twenty minutes of that fixture.
I wouldn't say blew me away, but you couldn't get
me away from the TV, which is something I wouldn't
have said two years ago. I'm enthrilled by this, as
I was with the Wellington Phoenix when they had an
(12:03):
overdue victory over the weekend. I normally don't watch a
whole lot of footb but there's something about the energy
being built in New Zealand football from both teams being
included in the A League that gives me a reason
to watch. Long may it continue, from my point of view,
Long my education around the game of football continue. I
(12:26):
never thought I'd ever say this, but it's true. I'm
turning into a football fan and it is all down
to the A League. And it would be remiss of
me not to mention the contribution of my colleague on
the Fix and News towards ZEB Jason Pine. His contribution
commentary wise to the local games brings extra to the experience.
(12:47):
He's aerodite, he's entertaining, he's extraordinarily knowledgeable, he doesn't take
himself too seriously, and he really wraps up the game
of football for me and encourages my continued participation as
a fan. What happens next? Do I tie my colors
to the master of an English football team. Yeah, now,
(13:09):
I don't think so, although with Chris Wood and considering
my history with Nottingham, maybe I might be leaning in
that direction. To strange days in my world of sport,
go figure.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfix for the
first time in twenty twenty five. A lot of firsts
on the podcast.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Today, Darcy and I inside the Chamber to discuss a
couple of sporting topics. I've heard your thoughts on Auckland FC.
You know me, I've loved football pretty much my whole
life and it's lovely to welcome, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
People like yourself onto this bandwagon. Last night Auckland f
C a late late show.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
To grab a point, I said, you know earlier this
week that Auckland FC have very quickly become the real
deal as far as far as the sporting franchise is concerned.
They're getting results on the pitch, they've got big crowds
coming off the pitch. They've even got you involved, Darcy Watergrove.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Yeah, well, a league full stop. Not just then, but
this competition between Wellington and Auckland. Even though I'm leaning
toward the Phoenix great relationship, a longrunt of time. I
can't move away from what Auckland are providing. I just
wish i'd score in the first half more than anything.
But you know, I'm learning more about it and I
feel a lot more engaged because it's local and there's
(14:28):
something about that in the end of that game. I
don't know that is entertained. What is that here? I
am last night? You would have been impressed by it.
I'm standing in front of the TV, waving my fist,
squealing and yelling and giving my opinion on what's going
I was like, what it's happened to me? Bro, what's
happened to me?
Speaker 3 (14:43):
It's called engagement. It is called engagement. And any sport
that can bring in discretionary viewers like you. You know,
if you are if you are engaging with the television,
if you're yelling and screaming and giving advice to those
who simply cannot hear you, but you're giving the advice anyway,
that is engagement, isn't it. So if a sport is
(15:04):
engaging you, then they're doing something right. And look Auckland
f C and Yes and the Ale again the Phoenix
are doing a lot of things right that game last night.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Adelaide's a great place for a league football. It's an
enclosed stadium.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
The fans are a bit fairal they give it to
the visiting teams and coaches, but you get every color
of emotion there and last night was a great example
of it. It really, I mean, no one pretends that
it's the Premier League, no one pretends that it's siri
Are or La Liga. It is what it is.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
But what it is is, i'll use that word again,
highly engaging.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Well, if you call me shouting engaging, great, run with it.
What got up my nose? Which is the same with
leagues all over the world as the AAR It worked
out well plainly in one case didn't work out so
well in the other case. It's kind of rude the
way it pauses the fixtures like that. I mean, you
win some, you lose some. Yes, you know, I can't
(15:56):
say it from a point of power, but gas it.
William sick of it.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Yeah, Oh look, I don't think honestly, I don't think
you'll get an argument from the vast majority of football
fans even now. When a goal is scored, does you
know you celebrate the goal? If you're a fan of
that team, but you've got that feeling in the back
of your mind, is this going to get chalked off
by a line on a per chore on, you know,
a replay over and over look the goal last night
that natea Modano scored for Auckland, that opened the scoring
(16:20):
in the game. Look, initially, you know the lino said no,
that's handball. They went back to Vaar. Yes it was handball,
but by the defender, not by Moreno, so that one stood.
And then later obviously there was a suggestion of a
tug on the shirt of Call and Elliott and they
had a look at that and didn't pull it back.
So gestion sorry, carry on, it's quite a stern suggestion
(16:43):
in fact of that. Anyway, all's well, that ends well
a point a piece, which I think is the fair result.
And this Auckland FC juggernaut continues. Hey, while we're on
that side of the Tasman the Australian Tennis Opener is
into its final stages Women's semi finals tonight, men's semi
finals tomorrow, then into the finals across the weekend. But
there seems to be quite a bit of spotlight on
(17:04):
disrespect of the players, in particular by members of the media.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
What do you make of all the well I can
lean a couple.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Of ways on this. I think in Novak djokovit's case
if he didn't bring that issue up, we wouldn't have
heard anything about it, because if you don't respect somebody,
why should you take their insults on board? Right, So
I think he shouldn't have brought that up, but it
did empower him, I think to that extraordinary victory that
(17:29):
we saw in the quarter finals. On the other side
of things, the point has to sit as this. You're
in this business. You know what we do court side information,
and that's what these guys do in the interviews. They
are conduits between the crowd and the player. No one
cares what they think. Maybe different with us because we're
an opinion based broadcaster, so we've got to do that.
(17:53):
These guys ask a question we want to hear from
the player. It's not about you. And I think too
many of these mid court commentary whatever you call them
MC guys think people are coming there hear them. They
are not right.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
It's like you've read my notes. I could not agree more.
I think the least that the interviewer says, the better.
If you cut up, cut up and you know, or
if you put the audio of the post match into
a pie graph, you'd want a smaller slice as possible
of the interviewer and as large as slice as possible
the interview e.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
You're so right.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
We're not here for a comedy show or you trying
to get a few social media clicks. We're here to
get some information about the match we've just watched and
the winner of that match.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
I could not agree more as long as that tiny
slice of pie doesn't include So how do you feel.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
No, you're right, You're right. I think we need a
bit more than that.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
So yeah, maybe somewhere in between the two things would
be exactly where where we need to land. That's us
in the chamber for today.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Dissecting the sporting agenda.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
It's Sportsfix with Jason Vain and Darcy Waldergrave and that.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Is us for this episode of Sports Fixed. Don't worry though,
a fresh episode we'll drop into your podcast feed around
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Speaker 4 (19:14):
And then elbow your mates and your family and get
them to do exactly the same thing we spoke of
engagement in this podcast. We want more from everybody out there,
and if you'd like to directly engage in what Jason
and I do, you can on Sports Talk between seven
and eight Monday to Friday, because we got talk back.
You can say not whatever you want, but you can
(19:36):
have your opinions too, And of course over the weekend,
mister Jason Pine does exactly the same thing. It gets
three hours each time it's week in Sport between twelve
and three Saturday and Sunday. So join us both if
you don't mind.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
If you don't mind, we'll see tomorrow it does.
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
This is Thoughtsfix Howard by News Talks.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Ed Bhllio there and welcome into a new episode of
the Sportsbooks podcast. And for the first time in twenty
twenty five, the two of us are together. They've let
us loose again. I'm Jason Pine.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
And I go back to a song by was it
Peaches and Herb from back in the eighties? Reunited and
it feels a good reunitic Sorry about that? You remember
that track?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Don't you?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Piney? How are you mate?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I'm really good and actually a good rendition by you too.
I can't really false it too much.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Look it.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
It's good to be reunited talking sport again in twenty
twenty five.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
What do it every weekday? And on a Thursday and
or Friday we get the chance to do it together.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
We do have a bit to kick around today, including
Auckland FC's late late show last night. I know you've
got some thoughts on that, so Ossie open and host
match interviews.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Who's our interview today?
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Speaking of interviews, well, Chris Kens joins us to further
add fuel to the fire talking about this yesterday on
the podcast, about the combination of Super Smash and Big Bash.
Where it goes? Should it go in that direction? Why
is it not going in this direction? What do we lose?
What do we gain? Chris Kens joins us to discuss that,
because there's no cricket really on at the moment, so
(01:31):
I'm going to try and get in there somehow, Binny.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Nothing wrong with it. Looking forward to hearing from Chris Kens.
Heeps to get through, so let's get into it. In
other news, let's get underway. Whether a look at some
of the biggest sports stories floating around today. Defending men's
champion Yannick Sinner has squashed the charge of local hope
Alex Demonor in straight sets in the quarterfinals that the
Aussie Tennis opened today.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Was a very great match from my side. They served
very well, breaking quite the early. Need said, was very
important for me and for my game. So yeah, for
sure was the best match after tournament's.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Crew to CEO Colin Man's Bridge believes New Zealand Rugby's
eligibility laws remain adequate that after Richie Moore unger signals
hit his intention Viru's agent to see out his contract
with Tashiba in Japan rather than returning home in the
middle of this year.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
On the one hand, you want to have the best
available prize that you can have at any point in time,
but then in doing something, you don't want to chop
the leagus of the system off and make it less
effective than it's been.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
And another Manchester City bottle job has left the English
football powerhouse and the elimination zone. With a round to
play in the Champions League Group stage, City of Blinder
two mil lead at Paris Jermain to lose four to two.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
His boss Pep Guardiola, there.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Were bear they were a Kruger faster. They win the
dwells with the ball.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
They have one woman in the middle and we could
not cope with that. They are fast except to defeat
because the best in one leading a vex. We've got
just the ticket.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
It's Sports Vix powered by News Talks IV.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
I'm Greagat on the program now and good day to
Chris Ken's Chris. Welcome to the show. How do I
trust you well? Looking forward to a great twenty twenty
five and some wonderful cricket and all your focus currently
is about the T twenty game, the combination between Australia
and New Zealand, the Big Bash and the Super Smash.
(03:28):
Why is this not a team? Why is this not
the same sport? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (03:32):
Why is it not a thing? I agree to look
over that whole Christmas New Year period. I mean, there
was obviously that New Zealand England series and then we
had a you know, just a delightful series with the
Indians and Ausies over there, and then it's rolled into
the Big Bash and of course the New Zealand comp
(03:52):
But look, I mean, I've got to be honest, I
haven't seen any of the New Zealand compy. I just
you know, it's sort of downplayed a bit, and you know,
the Big Bash seems to be the premiere property on TV.
But I think I'm not sure I've talked to you
about it before, But I you know, I've often questioned why,
(04:12):
you know, why our players aren't in the comp And
you know, if we look at the soccer that occurs
with Wellington and Auckland involved in the Australian comp we
look obviously with the Warriors and and what they what
they do and what they have and then we've got
Super Rugby. But for some reason cricket seems to be lagging.
And I don't know whether that's a Cricket Australia thing mate,
(04:33):
that is perhaps not as forthcoming as what New Zealand
cricket wanted to be. But it sort of makes sense
to have not I don't I don't think there should
be one team. I'd have two. I'd have an Auckland
team and a Custis team in it.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
So what does this stand to gain for the Australians.
I suppose that's what you're going to look at. What's
in it for them?
Speaker 7 (04:50):
Well? Five million people. I mean it's a It's a
market right at the end of the day. And I
think it strengthens the competition too, because I do think
at the moment, and this is another thing that I've
often wondered about about how New Zealand is a classed
as international players going over to play in Aussie in
the big bag. But you know, all the other leagues
(05:11):
and teams that operate in the winter coats the seam
Tom brace New Zealanders within their outfit and they have
numerous players. Look, we know that the All Blacks have
an issue with players playing outside of New Zealand, and
you know they can't wear the black jersey if they
head away. But from a cricketing perspective, you know, if
(05:32):
you took out, for example, there's eight Big Bash teams, right,
so if you took out, so that's eighty eight players
who are playing first and foremost. If you took out
the lack of a better term, the worst twenty players.
If you injected the best twenty New Zealand players into
that competition as it currently stands, the level of quality
(05:53):
and the level of play would raise straight away overnight.
So you know, having New Zealanders in that comp but
then opening it up to having New Zealand teams into
the camp as well. At the moment they've got eight
teams at pay ten games. They could easily have ten
or eleven teams and still play ten games pay each
other one. So look at the theories all there, why
(06:16):
it hasn't been explored. Look, I'm sure they're talking about it,
but yeah, I just find it astounding that, you know,
they're not talking about it more and moving towards a
solution to get New Zealand or New Zealand teams into
the Big Batch.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
I think Christians is fair to say New Zealand cricket
have been very front forward. They really have been right
the way through the last few years, so they probably
are thinking about it. I'm suspecting that the effect on
the local game and how that would affect suppose gay
income crowds who can go regularly over the summer period
to these matches, that would probably be first and foremost putting,
(06:49):
as I say, the fan at the center of the
room and worrying about their own backyard.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
Yeah, a good point, although it has it a guests
that I don't know if the Smash would run at
the profit mate, I would guess it would run the
loss when you look at the costs involved in the travel,
all the requirements for compliance, that around what they charge
to get into the gate. You know, I'd be really
interested to have a look and see what the plus
(07:15):
minus is on the Smash itself as a competition, and
so you know, what would happen if we had teams
in the Big Bash will again probably similar to what
happens here at a national level for soccer or for
rugby league, there are competitions that exist. I mean, if
I'm running two teams in the Big Bash from a
New Zealand perspective. And look, there's two great brands just
(07:37):
sitting there in the Auckland Bass and the Cannery Wizards. Right,
So if those two teams advance into the Big Bash,
we still run the T twenty competition, but take it
to the holiday places, take it to Nelson and take
it to the Mount and you know, take it to
New Plymouth around that summertime Christmas period. And you know
(07:59):
the players in that competition, does there's a pathway for
them to get into the Big Bash. So I don't
see it as a negative. It just yeah, it just
has to thought through. But as I say, you've got
two great franchises and the Aces and the Woods sitting
there waiting to be injected into the Big Bash.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Are details why Chris Kens, would you open these two
franchises up to all the Australians as well? Will they
essentially become the same as as the Sixers, all the
Thunder as far as who can they employ?
Speaker 7 (08:28):
Yeah, undred percent. Again we're just using the NROL model, right.
It's just the opportunity for some Australian players to come
and play out here. If you know, if the franchise
wants to do that, but given New Zealand sort of
cricket schedule now seems to sort of follow the Australian
schedule darts where it sort of stops after that box
(08:49):
I saw of the New Year's Test in Sydney and
then and then sort of picks up whether it be
in February or whatnot. So there is that that window.
I mean, I'd much rather personally, I mean, Martin Guptall's playing,
you know here in that smash car. I'd much rather
stand plane than the big Bash, you know, like I mean,
and the other New Zealand players that are sitting out,
get them into that comp. You know, there's great international players.
(09:12):
The TV contracts are going to be to be worth more,
the players are going to be paid more. So there's
upside for everybody. And look, I'm sure they're talking about this.
The administrators would have to be doing that, but it's
just a case of how they do it. But you know,
putting a can every team and an orphan teament for me,
it just makes a whole lot of sense.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Really.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Finally, Chris, you can know that go all the way.
Speaker 7 (09:35):
I know he's he's ridiculous but I look, I must
confess that my daughter's an up and coming young tennis
player and I was, and she's doing she's doing really well.
She's doing great. But and so I'm a I'm a
sort of a I've gone down the rabbit hole on
the Sennas side of things. And it's a great sport.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
I love it.
Speaker 7 (09:55):
They look watching him, but then watching sinner and and
what he his body went through, you know a couple
of days ago when he was crook mate and then
came out and and and won that. Man, you know,
I just he's he's going to be so hard to
be but don't it's very off. Another's another one, right,
(10:16):
So he's and he's into the long haul. So whether
Jokovic has got this sort of injury, he always seems
to get these little injuries that no one's ever quite
sure about, you know, So he plays these games. But
I'll tell you what it's. It's it's going to be
those semi finals and then into the final. But I
think I'll be on center if he's healthy. But yeah, God,
(10:36):
going against Jocovic, you know that you'd have to think
that man, he's a he's a man driven, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Cricket and tennis will get you back for golf next.
Chris Keene sends for me your time mate, You go well,
we'll talk soon.
Speaker 7 (10:47):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
This is sports Figs, your daily dose of sports news.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
How invite news talks.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Strange days, strange days for me. Anyway, I'm turning more
and more into a football fan. Yeah, he's finally caught
up with the rest of the world. And who do
I put that down too? I've got to be said.
The increased competition in the A League between two New
Zealand sides. I'm still barracking for Wellington Phoenix. Known these
(11:18):
guys for a long long time, love what they do,
love what they've done for New Zealand football and what
they carry on doing in that space. But the introduction
of Auckland FC, and again, these guys are good humans.
I enjoy speaking with their players, I enjoyed speaking with
their coach, so on and so forth. Even though I'm
a Phoenix fan, I can't stop watching AKFC as much
(11:41):
as I watched the Wellington Phoenix last night's game. AKFC
did something quite astonishing the last twenty minutes of that fixture.
I wouldn't say blew me away, but you couldn't get
me away from the TV, which is something I wouldn't
have said two years ago. I'm enthrilled by this, as
I was with the Wellington Phoenix when they had an
(12:03):
overdue victory over the weekend. I normally don't watch a
whole lot of footb but there's something about the energy
being built in New Zealand football from both teams being
included in the A League that gives me a reason
to watch. Long may it continue, from my point of view,
Long my education around the game of football continue. I
(12:26):
never thought I'd ever say this, but it's true. I'm
turning into a football fan and it is all down
to the A League. And it would be remiss of
me not to mention the contribution of my colleague on
the Fix and News towards ZEB Jason Pine. His contribution
commentary wise to the local games brings extra to the experience.
(12:47):
He's aerodite, he's entertaining, he's extraordinarily knowledgeable, he doesn't take
himself too seriously, and he really wraps up the game
of football for me and encourages my continued participation as
a fan. What happens next? Do I tie my colors
to the master of an English football team. Yeah, now,
(13:09):
I don't think so, although with Chris Wood and considering
my history with Nottingham, maybe I might be leaning in
that direction. To strange days in my world of sport,
go figure.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfix for the
first time in twenty twenty five. A lot of firsts
on the podcast.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Today, Darcy and I inside the Chamber to discuss a
couple of sporting topics. I've heard your thoughts on Auckland FC.
You know me, I've loved football pretty much my whole
life and it's lovely to welcome, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
People like yourself onto this bandwagon. Last night Auckland f
C a late late show.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
To grab a point, I said, you know earlier this
week that Auckland FC have very quickly become the real
deal as far as far as the sporting franchise is concerned.
They're getting results on the pitch, they've got big crowds
coming off the pitch. They've even got you involved, Darcy Watergrove.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Yeah, well, a league full stop. Not just then, but
this competition between Wellington and Auckland. Even though I'm leaning
toward the Phoenix great relationship, a longrunt of time. I
can't move away from what Auckland are providing. I just
wish i'd score in the first half more than anything.
But you know, I'm learning more about it and I
feel a lot more engaged because it's local and there's
(14:28):
something about that in the end of that game. I
don't know that is entertained. What is that here? I
am last night? You would have been impressed by it.
I'm standing in front of the TV, waving my fist,
squealing and yelling and giving my opinion on what's going
I was like, what it's happened to me? Bro, what's
happened to me?
Speaker 3 (14:43):
It's called engagement. It is called engagement. And any sport
that can bring in discretionary viewers like you. You know,
if you are if you are engaging with the television,
if you're yelling and screaming and giving advice to those
who simply cannot hear you, but you're giving the advice anyway,
that is engagement, isn't it. So if a sport is
(15:04):
engaging you, then they're doing something right. And look Auckland
f C and Yes and the Ale again the Phoenix
are doing a lot of things right that game last night.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Adelaide's a great place for a league football. It's an
enclosed stadium.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
The fans are a bit fairal they give it to
the visiting teams and coaches, but you get every color
of emotion there and last night was a great example
of it. It really, I mean, no one pretends that
it's the Premier League, no one pretends that it's siri
Are or La Liga. It is what it is.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
But what it is is, i'll use that word again,
highly engaging.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Well, if you call me shouting engaging, great, run with it.
What got up my nose? Which is the same with
leagues all over the world as the AAR It worked
out well plainly in one case didn't work out so
well in the other case. It's kind of rude the
way it pauses the fixtures like that. I mean, you
win some, you lose some. Yes, you know, I can't
(15:56):
say it from a point of power, but gas it.
William sick of it.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Yeah, Oh look, I don't think honestly, I don't think
you'll get an argument from the vast majority of football
fans even now. When a goal is scored, does you
know you celebrate the goal? If you're a fan of
that team, but you've got that feeling in the back
of your mind, is this going to get chalked off
by a line on a per chore on, you know,
a replay over and over look the goal last night
that natea Modano scored for Auckland, that opened the scoring
(16:20):
in the game. Look, initially, you know the lino said no,
that's handball. They went back to Vaar. Yes it was handball,
but by the defender, not by Moreno, so that one stood.
And then later obviously there was a suggestion of a
tug on the shirt of Call and Elliott and they
had a look at that and didn't pull it back.
So gestion sorry, carry on, it's quite a stern suggestion
(16:43):
in fact of that. Anyway, all's well, that ends well
a point a piece, which I think is the fair result.
And this Auckland FC juggernaut continues. Hey, while we're on
that side of the Tasman the Australian Tennis Opener is
into its final stages Women's semi finals tonight, men's semi
finals tomorrow, then into the finals across the weekend. But
there seems to be quite a bit of spotlight on
(17:04):
disrespect of the players, in particular by members of the media.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
What do you make of all the well I can
lean a couple.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Of ways on this. I think in Novak djokovit's case
if he didn't bring that issue up, we wouldn't have
heard anything about it, because if you don't respect somebody,
why should you take their insults on board? Right, So
I think he shouldn't have brought that up, but it
did empower him, I think to that extraordinary victory that
(17:29):
we saw in the quarter finals. On the other side
of things, the point has to sit as this. You're
in this business. You know what we do court side information,
and that's what these guys do in the interviews. They
are conduits between the crowd and the player. No one
cares what they think. Maybe different with us because we're
an opinion based broadcaster, so we've got to do that.
(17:53):
These guys ask a question we want to hear from
the player. It's not about you. And I think too
many of these mid court commentary whatever you call them
MC guys think people are coming there hear them. They
are not right.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
It's like you've read my notes. I could not agree more.
I think the least that the interviewer says, the better.
If you cut up, cut up and you know, or
if you put the audio of the post match into
a pie graph, you'd want a smaller slice as possible
of the interviewer and as large as slice as possible
the interview e.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
You're so right.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
We're not here for a comedy show or you trying
to get a few social media clicks. We're here to
get some information about the match we've just watched and
the winner of that match.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
I could not agree more as long as that tiny
slice of pie doesn't include So how do you feel.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
No, you're right, You're right. I think we need a
bit more than that.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
So yeah, maybe somewhere in between the two things would
be exactly where where we need to land. That's us
in the chamber for today.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Dissecting the sporting agenda.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
It's Sportsfix with Jason Vain and Darcy Waldergrave and that.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Is us for this episode of Sports Fixed. Don't worry though,
a fresh episode we'll drop into your podcast feed around
about the same time tomorrow. Of course, if you subscribe,
and maybe that's something you might like to do in
twenty twenty five, that'll happen automatically to us.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
And then elbow your mates and your family and get
them to do exactly the same thing we spoke of
engagement in this podcast. We want more from everybody out there,
and if you'd like to directly engage in what Jason
and I do, you can on Sports Talk between seven
and eight Monday to Friday, because we got talk back.
You can say not whatever you want, but you can
(19:36):
have your opinions too, And of course over the weekend,
mister Jason Pine does exactly the same thing. It gets
three hours each time it's week in Sport between twelve
and three Saturday and Sunday. So join us both if
you don't mind.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
If you don't mind, we'll see tomorrow it does.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
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