August 29, 2024 • 20 mins
On Sports Fix with D'Arcy Waldegrave and Jason Pine for Thursday 29 August 2024 - NZ Herald Rugby Writer Liam Napier previews the heavyweight test match between the All Blacks and South Africa - does NZ have any chance in such a hostile environment?
D'Arcy delivers an opinion piece on this weekend's F1 showdown.
Plus, the lads join the panel to discuss whether New Zealand should dip their toes into franchise T20 cricket.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talks ed B.
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This is Sportsfix Howard by News Talk SEDB.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hello and welcome to a fresh episode of the Sports
Fixed podcast. Lovely to have you with us. Thursday August
twenty nine. I'm Jason Pine alongside my mate on the.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Other half of us, I'm Darcy Watergrave Lover Thursday and
a Friday. Great broadcasting with you, Piney. What have we
got lined up?
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Well quite a bit.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Actually want to kick a few things round with you
when we get to the chamber slash Lena ibn Ittsabeth
was he ever not going to play? But a cricket
chat and also some football as well. Who have we
got in terms of a guest today though, does.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Liam Napier, who's got the Rugby Direct podcast through the
nz M network. He of course is a rugby scribe
and we'll preview the team comes out five o'clock in
New Zealand time and look towards the Test match and
maybe get a wee bitt of Liam McDonald chatting there
and well as well with a guy who knows fas
too much about rugby to pick his brains all.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Right, I want to hear your thoughts on Formula one
as well, so let's get into it.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
In other news, let's.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Kick things off, as always with a look at some
of the big sports stories floating around today. The Black
Caps have a new bowling coach. It's former All Round
to Jacob Orum.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
One of the biggest things is that experience and the
empathy that I've had from being a player myself. And
that doesn't automatically mean a player equals a good coach,
but I think it helps and to understand the situations
that all bowlers will be going through.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Meantime, New Zealand Cricket's head of High Performance, Brian Stronik,
has given his blessing for a couple of Black Apps each,
Sody and Mark Chapman, to register for Sunday's Big Bash
T twenty cricket draft in Australia.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
They just came to us and it wasn't actually something
I was aware of of thinking about, but I just
identified a little bit of a gap in the schedules
of our domestic cricket and our international cricket where they
could potentially put their name in the hat.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
And hot if it do a carpety have shifted there
Round six Heartland Championship Rugby match again South Canada breed
from the Leven Do Maine to Eden Park on September
twenty second.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
His union boss Corey Kennett.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
They were absolutely cockerhood that just rapped with the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Look look at till the heartline competition game and now.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Goal was obviously stilled to win the game, given an
extra springing the step and motivation for the boys.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Leading a vex, We've gone just the ticket.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
It's sports Vex, my News Talks Ivy.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
It's a warm welcome to sports Vex podcast to Liam Napier,
hoster of the Rugby Direct podcast, of course rugby writer
for n Z that herald welcome in great to have
you on board, looking forward to what amounts to Is
it the Test of the year or so far it is,
but is it maybe the entire year this fixture?
Speaker 7 (02:53):
I think so dos great to be here. Look, there's
something undeniably special about test rugby in South Africa, about
playing at Alice Park, the spring Box, spiritual home the
All Blacks and spring Box is the greatest rival and
rugby and look the All Blacks are on shaky ground,
so a lot of interest to see how they front
(03:14):
over there.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Well, last time they played at Alice Park it was
a real turner because of course Ian Foster was under
all sorts of pressure and of course Scott Robertson was
standing in the wings waiting to take the job, but
they squashed that. So I expect even though they're the
world champions the spring box, they'll be thinking revenge when
it comes to Alice Parks, like if the All Blacks
get beaten at Eden Park, which doesn't happen, but you
(03:37):
can imagine the pushback after that.
Speaker 7 (03:40):
It's right, It's interesting. Actually, the All Blacks have a
phenomenal record, not just at Alice Park. They've won three
of their last four tests there and six of their
last seven in South Africa.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
So there is.
Speaker 7 (03:51):
Something that inspires the All Blacks about going to South Africa,
about playing at altitude. The challenge of, you know, facing
the world champions on their home soil really does bring
out the best in them. And that test you speak
about two years ago, when the All Blacks saved m
Foster's coaching tenure. They were completely written off, weren't they.
(04:11):
They've been smacked the week before in Mombala, nobody expected
them to win and they pull out our backs to
the wall performance. So the backdrop that greets him this
time is a wee bit similar in some respects with
the news this week that Liam McDonald's gone from the
coaching team and similar sort of disruptions.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
There can we whip Tony Brown on the spare time?
Just take him for one test? That'd be good, wouldn't it.
Speaker 7 (04:37):
Tony Brown? Certainly one that's got away when you go
back four years ago even longer, Ian Foster and Scott
Robertson wanted him in their coaching team and he left.
Fast forward to now and he has really evolved the
spring Box team from an attacking perspective. There's been a
lot of innovation in their kicking ability, even a little
(04:58):
set plays around the line out. And he is someone
who knows New Zealand rugby and the All Blacks intimately.
He has coached against the Scott Robertson, Scott Hansen, Jason
and Ryan Crusaders, had some success there with the Highlanders
and will know a lot of these All Blacks very well.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Just going back to McDonald, this this is for me.
I don't know if anyone else climbs in, but there's
still something not right. He's been paid out, we don't
know how much. We don't know if he quit, if
he was sacked. We don't know enough about this and
the background. I'm still thinking, what is happening here? Does
(05:37):
it strike you as strange or just standard contractual procedure?
Speaker 7 (05:42):
It is strange, darcent, and we're never going to know
exactly what transpired. Are we are? The commercial terms of
a payout and negotiation are confidential. But my understanding is
Lean McDonald was contracted for four years, which is strange
in itself. It's normally a two year deal, well for.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
An assistant coach, I mean even for the head coach.
They don't really do them chunks that big, do they,
Although Robertson's there for the long haul.
Speaker 7 (06:07):
Yeah, Normally it is a two plus two. You have
a review after a certain time, So to sign an
assistant for that long is strange. And I've been told
that he was paid out close to two years of
that term. In terms of what transpired behind the scenes,
it could have been everything from selection disagreements to not
(06:28):
been on the same page. From an attacking perspective, which
Liam McDonald was responsible for to the fact that you've
got two headstrong characters coming to head to head and
not agreeing and having to part ways because Liam McDonald
was a head coach. He is a head coach, so
reverting to an assistant would not be easy. But it
(06:51):
is strange because you go back eighteen months to when
Scott Robinson was first appointed. That's how long this coaching
group have had to get on the same page. And
here we are less than two months into Scott Robinson's tenure,
five tests and Lion McDonald's gone.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
The ability for the all BLAE acts to unpack then
put it in the wardrobe and move on, I expect
it's quite high. I wouldn't see it interrupt them too much.
Changes well, it's the only constant.
Speaker 7 (07:18):
Yeah, players tend to be performance, very single minded driven
and I don't think they'll have any challenges getting up
for the spring box at Alice Park. But I think
it is a disruption. You've got Scott Hanson flipping from
defense to attack, somebody Allison going from a part time
contact coach to full time defense. So those are massive
(07:40):
shifts in coaching portfolios. But there is a lot of
leadership in this All Blacks team. When you look throughout
with guys like Boden Barrett, Scott Barrett's coming back, Damian
McKenzie's been there for a while, you know, Riquoewanne, Jordi Barrett.
These guys aren't rookies, so to a certain extent, they
should know what they need to do, and it's more
(08:02):
about giving them a bit of a blueprint and a platform.
So I think it is a distraction, but professional athletes
tend to a certain degree run their own ship, so
it is gonna be interesting to see how they shake
this off. They've only had a week, really only three
on field trainings to move on from the McDonald's situation
(08:25):
that they're saying they've done that. They've tried to downplay
what's happened, but I guess we're going to find out.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
News Talk ZB i'll have live coverage of that game.
You're offsider in Rugby direct. Elliott Smith has got the call.
Liam Napier, Thank you very much for your intel. Always
a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
This is Sportsfix, your daily does of sports news, how
news talks, Evy.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
The Formula one Circus hits Monsa, one of the legendary
race tracks, this weekend is the European season essentially winds up.
It is around sixteen of twenty four for the Formula
One Championship. It's a shame that the Circus is leaving
Europe because of my humble opinion those race tracks. They
are the ones to what the interest around this race
(09:10):
lies with Red Bull. As we know, negotiations are still
going on with Red Bull and their Vcarb team, their
junior team around the future of Liam Lawson. We expect
to know more around about azerbai Jarm which is a
couple of weeks away. The big thing here with Red
Bull though, is slowly but surely they are losing their
grip on the World Constructors Championship. You'd expect that max Uwstappan,
(09:34):
who has a healthy lead, should manage to reign in
that title for himself yet again short of disaster. But
the team's championship, which let's face it is the most
important championship, is one that McClaren, yeah McLaren, born of
Bruce McLaren, now have a very realistic chance of reigning
in and passing Red Bull on the way to the
(09:56):
Constructors Championship. Red Bull have dominated the Constructors championships over
the last couple of years. Before that, it was almost
impossible to beat Mercedes. The last time McLaren won a
championship was way back in nineteen ninety eight. That at
a wonderful time before that, eighty four, eighty five, eighty
eight through ninety one, and that was in the center
(10:19):
the prost errors. So why is it so important to
win the World Constructors Championship, Well, what do they say,
race Sunday, sell Monday, Not that McClaren sell individual auto
cars that we could necessarily afford. This is where the
money is at for the Formula One team Last year
at red Bull won the Constructors Championship and pocketed fourteen
(10:40):
percent of the pool, which equated to one hundred and
forty million dollars. Still relatively small beans in Formula One terms,
but it's one hundred and forty million dollars that would
not go amiss. And of course the title be able
to say that you are the world champions, you have
the best team, the best car and the best engine
is something that money cannot buy. After what Lando Norris,
(11:03):
incidentally he ran on the toy at a racing series back
here a few years ago, won last week on the
fantastic track that is zan Vought and it was the
biggest margin in a Formula One race this year. After
he won that, he starts thinking, well, you know what
I think, along with Piastre the Australian, we should be
able to drag McLaren now that the Red Bulls are
(11:24):
going backwards into position to fight for the title.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfix.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Time for us to join together here on the Sports
Fix podcast RC and I and kick around a few
topics of note, topics of relevance stuff which has happened
over the last little while. Even it's Abeth is now
apparently available for some of the mornings test to get
the All Blacks, where previously it had been perhaps indicated
that he wouldn't be like, come.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
On, Piny, that was always going to happen. You get
you play full part in training. He's one of their
absolute weapons. It's Alice Park come on, mate, wasn't it?
I think it to chop his leg off to not.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
MA think you're probably right, And actually he backs up
a fairly decent pair as well. Peter stefph to toy
we know how good he is. Ruan nor Kia as well. Look,
this is going to be a heck of a Test match.
I want to talk more about it tomorrow when we
have full possession of the facts around the All Blacks team.
But I can't remember outside of World Cups looking forward
to a Test match as much as I'm looking forward
to this one.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
How are you feeling about it?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Well, I'm interested in Petter stuff to toy. We know
what a weapon he is, but in an unusual possession
of Locke. Whether there's room there to exploit that not
entirely sure, But put it this way, I'm old. I
normally record everything and watch it first thing in the
morning on Sunday morning. I'm getting up to watch this
thing live. This has got so much around it last time,
(12:50):
Alice Park of course, what happened Ian Foster's test career
got saved by the players, So so much around this one.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah, and look, as I say, once we've got the
All Blacks team confirmed, we'll have a I guess a
more detailed look at it tomorrow. But yeah, stock up
on the coffee, the Milo, whatever it is you like
at three in the morning and join us either on
zat or in front of the TV.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Well, they ever got the New Zealand team yet. But
I've got to just look at the South Africa hymns.
They naim that particularly early, so we know what's going on.
What I really like about the side, and there is
some young and relatively inexperienced players where when you look
at the man standing at ten such Fineberg and Minzulu,
I hope I got that one right. Only nine caps,
I mean that is a small amount of caps, so
(13:32):
there might be room there to maybe exploit, we'd like
to think. But to me, looking at Creole and Delander
in those essentially the roles that Martina and Conrad Smith
used to dominate, and they've been together for so long
and they are a frightening prospect because they know exactly
what to do when the gun gets tough. So I
(13:53):
think a lot around those guys are.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Yeah, cheers a good team. They've got a good team.
They've got Can we go to cricket?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
A couple of bits of news here each Sody and
Mark Chapman have declared theirn for Sunday's big bashed T
twenty cricket draft in Australia. New Zealand Crickets say we're
fine with us because they've declared for games outside of
the local super smash window.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
I'm not sure there's a lot to see here. Is
that this is fair enough?
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Well, it makes sense. What's been happening in the landscape
of New Zealand Cricket recently under the new CEO Weenick
is they've gone, look, we need to be very very
nimble when it comes to keeping our players and if
it means they've got to walk for a bit, great.
If it means they can squeeze in their money making
outside of our windows, fantastic. They're really open to everything.
(14:37):
I think they should be applauded for that because as
far as a pathway is concerned, Pony Young Crickets are
going right, I need to make money out of this.
Where can I go? Who's going to help me out?
So I say it's a good thing.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Yeah I do too. Another thing I picked up and
nextually you alerted me to it was that there is well.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
While there are no immediate plans for this, New Zealand
Cricket haven't ruled out the possibility of our own Big Bash,
our own franchise T twenty competition here in the years ahead.
It feels like everybody else has got one. South Africa
the latest to jump on board with SA twenty or
whatever they want to call it. Can you see a
time where there's a franchise T twenty cricket competition here
(15:15):
on our shouls.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
So if there's a way n z s can extract
money out of the private sector to booster the T
twenty game and booster their own coffers in the popularity
and profile of the game, that'd be crazy not to
And I think at the moment, Jason, what we've got
six provinces involved, so that'd have to be what would
it stay the same? We just don't know, but we
(15:37):
always say this, the only constant is changed in order
to drag some people from outside of the world to
play in our competition. Right, so people do turn up
and warm seats with their said backsides. I think this
is more than a necessity. But they said, look, never
say never. We are addressing it, which is what I
said before about it. They're willing to change, they're looking
(15:58):
at new frontiers for New Zealand cricket.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Brilliant.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
I wonder where it would go because we've got the
Big Bash, of course, which runs kind of December December
into the end of January. The South African competition is
most of January. Maybe it's a February thing, does you know?
Maybe you know once the South African.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Competition in February.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Have we not from February?
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Percent? But then where does the international season go? Is
what i'd ask, Well.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
The international season isn't it dying? Isn't it on its
knees at the moment getting punched? They're going to have
to work a program in globally, and I know there's
lots of work around this where players can earn money,
spectators can get some good content, and also the fabric
of the international game is kept. Now that's not my problem.
That's up to someone on a wee bigger pay scal
But let's hope it's worked through because cricket, right, like
(16:44):
you me, super important to all of.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Us, absolutely right, I could easily envisage in February a
franchise competition here where we could get in behind. I'm
not even going to try and come up with any
names for these teams, but yeah, a franchise competition in
February and New Zealand, why not? Why they do it
for a month? Just go well, bam, bam bam. Suddenly
it's you know, why not? Wait there you go, why not?
(17:06):
We should be running this show? Finey, nothing off the
table as far as I'm concerned. Hey, quick word on
Auckland FC. They've tempted some new owners aboard. Winston Reid,
Tim Brown, Noah Hickey not bad.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Yeah, well, Winston Read to me is the key signing
that this is your area of expertise. But what he
provides as far as the knowledge around high performance football
is huge.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
But what do you make of it?
Speaker 3 (17:27):
This is your region, bro, my brother.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Yeah, oh look, I like it.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I mean, any investment into professional sport here is welcome,
and particularly when it comes from from those who have
experience at the very top level of football, as all
the three do. And it's you say, Winston Read. He's
played a decade long career with west Ham. You know,
Tim Brown knows all about football but also all about
business and Noa Hickey's long been a guy with endless
energy and enthusiasm. So look, I'm I'm totally on board
(17:54):
with all of this. They join, obviously, Anna Moobray and
Ali Williams in the ownership group, with Bill Foley the
majority shareholder. That's not a bad set of owners, you know,
for any sporting franchise.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
So I really like it. I see a few Wellington
Phoenix fans have got a.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Bit snippy about the fact that Tim Brown was a
Phoenix alumni. I see some people have even suggested throwing
away they're all Birds. I won't be doing that.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Well, it's a tech brochure, and I wonder how All
Birds is going at the moment because it was on
pretty shaky ground for a while there. You'd like to
think that the entrepreneurial spirit of Tim Brown is working
through the issues they have. But we're worried about football,
not what's going on on.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
His feet, right, that's right. Indeed, his influence and his
investments is welcome.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
A new NIXT signing. Sorry, he can't desert the next seven.
They got a new Japanese player turning up for the club.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Kazuki Nagasawa is his name, over three hundred professional matches
in Japan, A midfield player. One more to come as well,
one more important to come, who, I get the feeling
will also be a Japanese player and attacker. I look
at these two rosters. Does I know we're running out
of time here in the chamber. But I look at
these two rosters for Wellington Phoenix and Auckland FC, and
I see two top six sides there. I think both
(19:05):
of them have really, really really good score wards and
we'll be there or thereabouts when the playoff positions are
determined in sort of April May of next year.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
And the fact that we've got two New Zealand based
sides in this Australian competition is epic. There is competition,
there is aggression. It is going to be something else.
So I've got to apploy the A League. Sorry, applaud
the A League for doing that.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yep, they're knocking on the door of the Chamber to
get us out the next meeting.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
And here is about to begin. We're out of.
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hello and welcome to a fresh episode of the Sports
Fixed podcast. Lovely to have you with us. Thursday August
twenty nine. I'm Jason Pine alongside my mate on the.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Other half of us, I'm Darcy Watergrave Lover Thursday and
a Friday. Great broadcasting with you, Piney. What have we
got lined up?
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Well quite a bit.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Actually want to kick a few things round with you
when we get to the chamber slash Lena ibn Ittsabeth
was he ever not going to play? But a cricket
chat and also some football as well. Who have we
got in terms of a guest today though, does.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Liam Napier, who's got the Rugby Direct podcast through the
nz M network. He of course is a rugby scribe
and we'll preview the team comes out five o'clock in
New Zealand time and look towards the Test match and
maybe get a wee bitt of Liam McDonald chatting there
and well as well with a guy who knows fas
too much about rugby to pick his brains all.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Right, I want to hear your thoughts on Formula one
as well, so let's get into it.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
In other news, let's.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Kick things off, as always with a look at some
of the big sports stories floating around today. The Black
Caps have a new bowling coach. It's former All Round
to Jacob Orum.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
One of the biggest things is that experience and the
empathy that I've had from being a player myself. And
that doesn't automatically mean a player equals a good coach,
but I think it helps and to understand the situations
that all bowlers will be going through.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Meantime, New Zealand Cricket's head of High Performance, Brian Stronik,
has given his blessing for a couple of Black Apps each,
Sody and Mark Chapman, to register for Sunday's Big Bash
T twenty cricket draft in Australia.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
They just came to us and it wasn't actually something
I was aware of of thinking about, but I just
identified a little bit of a gap in the schedules
of our domestic cricket and our international cricket where they
could potentially put their name in the hat.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
And hot if it do a carpety have shifted there
Round six Heartland Championship Rugby match again South Canada breed
from the Leven Do Maine to Eden Park on September
twenty second.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
His union boss Corey Kennett.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
They were absolutely cockerhood that just rapped with the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Look look at till the heartline competition game and now.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Goal was obviously stilled to win the game, given an
extra springing the step and motivation for the boys.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Leading a vex, We've gone just the ticket.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
It's sports Vex, my News Talks Ivy.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
It's a warm welcome to sports Vex podcast to Liam Napier,
hoster of the Rugby Direct podcast, of course rugby writer
for n Z that herald welcome in great to have
you on board, looking forward to what amounts to Is
it the Test of the year or so far it is,
but is it maybe the entire year this fixture?
Speaker 7 (02:53):
I think so dos great to be here. Look, there's
something undeniably special about test rugby in South Africa, about
playing at Alice Park, the spring Box, spiritual home the
All Blacks and spring Box is the greatest rival and
rugby and look the All Blacks are on shaky ground,
so a lot of interest to see how they front
(03:14):
over there.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Well, last time they played at Alice Park it was
a real turner because of course Ian Foster was under
all sorts of pressure and of course Scott Robertson was
standing in the wings waiting to take the job, but
they squashed that. So I expect even though they're the
world champions the spring box, they'll be thinking revenge when
it comes to Alice Parks, like if the All Blacks
get beaten at Eden Park, which doesn't happen, but you
(03:37):
can imagine the pushback after that.
Speaker 7 (03:40):
It's right, It's interesting. Actually, the All Blacks have a
phenomenal record, not just at Alice Park. They've won three
of their last four tests there and six of their
last seven in South Africa.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
So there is.
Speaker 7 (03:51):
Something that inspires the All Blacks about going to South Africa,
about playing at altitude. The challenge of, you know, facing
the world champions on their home soil really does bring
out the best in them. And that test you speak
about two years ago, when the All Blacks saved m
Foster's coaching tenure. They were completely written off, weren't they.
(04:11):
They've been smacked the week before in Mombala, nobody expected
them to win and they pull out our backs to
the wall performance. So the backdrop that greets him this
time is a wee bit similar in some respects with
the news this week that Liam McDonald's gone from the
coaching team and similar sort of disruptions.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
There can we whip Tony Brown on the spare time?
Just take him for one test? That'd be good, wouldn't it.
Speaker 7 (04:37):
Tony Brown? Certainly one that's got away when you go
back four years ago even longer, Ian Foster and Scott
Robertson wanted him in their coaching team and he left.
Fast forward to now and he has really evolved the
spring Box team from an attacking perspective. There's been a
lot of innovation in their kicking ability, even a little
(04:58):
set plays around the line out. And he is someone
who knows New Zealand rugby and the All Blacks intimately.
He has coached against the Scott Robertson, Scott Hansen, Jason
and Ryan Crusaders, had some success there with the Highlanders
and will know a lot of these All Blacks very well.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Just going back to McDonald, this this is for me.
I don't know if anyone else climbs in, but there's
still something not right. He's been paid out, we don't
know how much. We don't know if he quit, if
he was sacked. We don't know enough about this and
the background. I'm still thinking, what is happening here? Does
(05:37):
it strike you as strange or just standard contractual procedure?
Speaker 7 (05:42):
It is strange, darcent, and we're never going to know
exactly what transpired. Are we are? The commercial terms of
a payout and negotiation are confidential. But my understanding is
Lean McDonald was contracted for four years, which is strange
in itself. It's normally a two year deal, well for.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
An assistant coach, I mean even for the head coach.
They don't really do them chunks that big, do they,
Although Robertson's there for the long haul.
Speaker 7 (06:07):
Yeah, Normally it is a two plus two. You have
a review after a certain time, So to sign an
assistant for that long is strange. And I've been told
that he was paid out close to two years of
that term. In terms of what transpired behind the scenes,
it could have been everything from selection disagreements to not
(06:28):
been on the same page. From an attacking perspective, which
Liam McDonald was responsible for to the fact that you've
got two headstrong characters coming to head to head and
not agreeing and having to part ways because Liam McDonald
was a head coach. He is a head coach, so
reverting to an assistant would not be easy. But it
(06:51):
is strange because you go back eighteen months to when
Scott Robinson was first appointed. That's how long this coaching
group have had to get on the same page. And
here we are less than two months into Scott Robinson's tenure,
five tests and Lion McDonald's gone.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
The ability for the all BLAE acts to unpack then
put it in the wardrobe and move on, I expect
it's quite high. I wouldn't see it interrupt them too much.
Changes well, it's the only constant.
Speaker 7 (07:18):
Yeah, players tend to be performance, very single minded driven
and I don't think they'll have any challenges getting up
for the spring box at Alice Park. But I think
it is a disruption. You've got Scott Hanson flipping from
defense to attack, somebody Allison going from a part time
contact coach to full time defense. So those are massive
(07:40):
shifts in coaching portfolios. But there is a lot of
leadership in this All Blacks team. When you look throughout
with guys like Boden Barrett, Scott Barrett's coming back, Damian
McKenzie's been there for a while, you know, Riquoewanne, Jordi Barrett.
These guys aren't rookies, so to a certain extent, they
should know what they need to do, and it's more
(08:02):
about giving them a bit of a blueprint and a platform.
So I think it is a distraction, but professional athletes
tend to a certain degree run their own ship, so
it is gonna be interesting to see how they shake
this off. They've only had a week, really only three
on field trainings to move on from the McDonald's situation
(08:25):
that they're saying they've done that. They've tried to downplay
what's happened, but I guess we're going to find out.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
News Talk ZB i'll have live coverage of that game.
You're offsider in Rugby direct. Elliott Smith has got the call.
Liam Napier, Thank you very much for your intel. Always
a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
This is Sportsfix, your daily does of sports news, how
news talks, Evy.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
The Formula one Circus hits Monsa, one of the legendary
race tracks, this weekend is the European season essentially winds up.
It is around sixteen of twenty four for the Formula
One Championship. It's a shame that the Circus is leaving
Europe because of my humble opinion those race tracks. They
are the ones to what the interest around this race
(09:10):
lies with Red Bull. As we know, negotiations are still
going on with Red Bull and their Vcarb team, their
junior team around the future of Liam Lawson. We expect
to know more around about azerbai Jarm which is a
couple of weeks away. The big thing here with Red
Bull though, is slowly but surely they are losing their
grip on the World Constructors Championship. You'd expect that max Uwstappan,
(09:34):
who has a healthy lead, should manage to reign in
that title for himself yet again short of disaster. But
the team's championship, which let's face it is the most
important championship, is one that McClaren, yeah McLaren, born of
Bruce McLaren, now have a very realistic chance of reigning
in and passing Red Bull on the way to the
(09:56):
Constructors Championship. Red Bull have dominated the Constructors championships over
the last couple of years. Before that, it was almost
impossible to beat Mercedes. The last time McLaren won a
championship was way back in nineteen ninety eight. That at
a wonderful time before that, eighty four, eighty five, eighty
eight through ninety one, and that was in the center
(10:19):
the prost errors. So why is it so important to
win the World Constructors Championship, Well, what do they say,
race Sunday, sell Monday, Not that McClaren sell individual auto
cars that we could necessarily afford. This is where the
money is at for the Formula One team Last year
at red Bull won the Constructors Championship and pocketed fourteen
(10:40):
percent of the pool, which equated to one hundred and
forty million dollars. Still relatively small beans in Formula One terms,
but it's one hundred and forty million dollars that would
not go amiss. And of course the title be able
to say that you are the world champions, you have
the best team, the best car and the best engine
is something that money cannot buy. After what Lando Norris,
(11:03):
incidentally he ran on the toy at a racing series back
here a few years ago, won last week on the
fantastic track that is zan Vought and it was the
biggest margin in a Formula One race this year. After
he won that, he starts thinking, well, you know what
I think, along with Piastre the Australian, we should be
able to drag McLaren now that the Red Bulls are
(11:24):
going backwards into position to fight for the title.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfix.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Time for us to join together here on the Sports
Fix podcast RC and I and kick around a few
topics of note, topics of relevance stuff which has happened
over the last little while. Even it's Abeth is now
apparently available for some of the mornings test to get
the All Blacks, where previously it had been perhaps indicated
that he wouldn't be like, come.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
On, Piny, that was always going to happen. You get
you play full part in training. He's one of their
absolute weapons. It's Alice Park come on, mate, wasn't it?
I think it to chop his leg off to not.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
MA think you're probably right, And actually he backs up
a fairly decent pair as well. Peter stefph to toy
we know how good he is. Ruan nor Kia as well. Look,
this is going to be a heck of a Test match.
I want to talk more about it tomorrow when we
have full possession of the facts around the All Blacks team.
But I can't remember outside of World Cups looking forward
to a Test match as much as I'm looking forward
to this one.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
How are you feeling about it?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Well, I'm interested in Petter stuff to toy. We know
what a weapon he is, but in an unusual possession
of Locke. Whether there's room there to exploit that not
entirely sure, But put it this way, I'm old. I
normally record everything and watch it first thing in the
morning on Sunday morning. I'm getting up to watch this
thing live. This has got so much around it last time,
(12:50):
Alice Park of course, what happened Ian Foster's test career
got saved by the players, So so much around this one.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah, and look, as I say, once we've got the
All Blacks team confirmed, we'll have a I guess a
more detailed look at it tomorrow. But yeah, stock up
on the coffee, the Milo, whatever it is you like
at three in the morning and join us either on
zat or in front of the TV.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Well, they ever got the New Zealand team yet. But
I've got to just look at the South Africa hymns.
They naim that particularly early, so we know what's going on.
What I really like about the side, and there is
some young and relatively inexperienced players where when you look
at the man standing at ten such Fineberg and Minzulu,
I hope I got that one right. Only nine caps,
I mean that is a small amount of caps, so
(13:32):
there might be room there to maybe exploit, we'd like
to think. But to me, looking at Creole and Delander
in those essentially the roles that Martina and Conrad Smith
used to dominate, and they've been together for so long
and they are a frightening prospect because they know exactly
what to do when the gun gets tough. So I
(13:53):
think a lot around those guys are.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Yeah, cheers a good team. They've got a good team.
They've got Can we go to cricket?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
A couple of bits of news here each Sody and
Mark Chapman have declared theirn for Sunday's big bashed T
twenty cricket draft in Australia. New Zealand Crickets say we're
fine with us because they've declared for games outside of
the local super smash window.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
I'm not sure there's a lot to see here. Is
that this is fair enough?
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Well, it makes sense. What's been happening in the landscape
of New Zealand Cricket recently under the new CEO Weenick
is they've gone, look, we need to be very very
nimble when it comes to keeping our players and if
it means they've got to walk for a bit, great.
If it means they can squeeze in their money making
outside of our windows, fantastic. They're really open to everything.
(14:37):
I think they should be applauded for that because as
far as a pathway is concerned, Pony Young Crickets are
going right, I need to make money out of this.
Where can I go? Who's going to help me out?
So I say it's a good thing.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Yeah I do too. Another thing I picked up and
nextually you alerted me to it was that there is well.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
While there are no immediate plans for this, New Zealand
Cricket haven't ruled out the possibility of our own Big Bash,
our own franchise T twenty competition here in the years ahead.
It feels like everybody else has got one. South Africa
the latest to jump on board with SA twenty or
whatever they want to call it. Can you see a
time where there's a franchise T twenty cricket competition here
(15:15):
on our shouls.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
So if there's a way n z s can extract
money out of the private sector to booster the T
twenty game and booster their own coffers in the popularity
and profile of the game, that'd be crazy not to
And I think at the moment, Jason, what we've got
six provinces involved, so that'd have to be what would
it stay the same? We just don't know, but we
(15:37):
always say this, the only constant is changed in order
to drag some people from outside of the world to
play in our competition. Right, so people do turn up
and warm seats with their said backsides. I think this
is more than a necessity. But they said, look, never
say never. We are addressing it, which is what I
said before about it. They're willing to change, they're looking
(15:58):
at new frontiers for New Zealand cricket.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Brilliant.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
I wonder where it would go because we've got the
Big Bash, of course, which runs kind of December December
into the end of January. The South African competition is
most of January. Maybe it's a February thing, does you know?
Maybe you know once the South African.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Competition in February.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Have we not from February?
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Percent? But then where does the international season go? Is
what i'd ask, Well.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
The international season isn't it dying? Isn't it on its
knees at the moment getting punched? They're going to have
to work a program in globally, and I know there's
lots of work around this where players can earn money,
spectators can get some good content, and also the fabric
of the international game is kept. Now that's not my problem.
That's up to someone on a wee bigger pay scal
But let's hope it's worked through because cricket, right, like
(16:44):
you me, super important to all of.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Us, absolutely right, I could easily envisage in February a
franchise competition here where we could get in behind. I'm
not even going to try and come up with any
names for these teams, but yeah, a franchise competition in
February and New Zealand, why not? Why they do it
for a month? Just go well, bam, bam bam. Suddenly
it's you know, why not? Wait there you go, why not?
(17:06):
We should be running this show? Finey, nothing off the
table as far as I'm concerned. Hey, quick word on
Auckland FC. They've tempted some new owners aboard. Winston Reid,
Tim Brown, Noah Hickey not bad.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Yeah, well, Winston Read to me is the key signing
that this is your area of expertise. But what he
provides as far as the knowledge around high performance football
is huge.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
But what do you make of it?
Speaker 3 (17:27):
This is your region, bro, my brother.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Yeah, oh look, I like it.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I mean, any investment into professional sport here is welcome,
and particularly when it comes from from those who have
experience at the very top level of football, as all
the three do. And it's you say, Winston Read. He's
played a decade long career with west Ham. You know,
Tim Brown knows all about football but also all about
business and Noa Hickey's long been a guy with endless
energy and enthusiasm. So look, I'm I'm totally on board
(17:54):
with all of this. They join, obviously, Anna Moobray and
Ali Williams in the ownership group, with Bill Foley the
majority shareholder. That's not a bad set of owners, you know,
for any sporting franchise.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
So I really like it. I see a few Wellington
Phoenix fans have got a.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Bit snippy about the fact that Tim Brown was a
Phoenix alumni. I see some people have even suggested throwing
away they're all Birds. I won't be doing that.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Well, it's a tech brochure, and I wonder how All
Birds is going at the moment because it was on
pretty shaky ground for a while there. You'd like to
think that the entrepreneurial spirit of Tim Brown is working
through the issues they have. But we're worried about football,
not what's going on on.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
His feet, right, that's right. Indeed, his influence and his
investments is welcome.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
A new NIXT signing. Sorry, he can't desert the next seven.
They got a new Japanese player turning up for the club.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Kazuki Nagasawa is his name, over three hundred professional matches
in Japan, A midfield player. One more to come as well,
one more important to come, who, I get the feeling
will also be a Japanese player and attacker. I look
at these two rosters. Does I know we're running out
of time here in the chamber. But I look at
these two rosters for Wellington Phoenix and Auckland FC, and
I see two top six sides there. I think both
(19:05):
of them have really, really really good score wards and
we'll be there or thereabouts when the playoff positions are
determined in sort of April May of next year.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
And the fact that we've got two New Zealand based
sides in this Australian competition is epic. There is competition,
there is aggression. It is going to be something else.
So I've got to apploy the A League. Sorry, applaud
the A League for doing that.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yep, they're knocking on the door of the Chamber to
get us out the next meeting.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
And here is about to begin. We're out of.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Here dissecting the sporting agenda. It's Sportsfix with Jason Vine
and Darcy Waldergrave.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
That's all for today's edition of the Sports Fixed podcast.
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