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Speaker 1 (00:06):
This is an iHeart Radio New Zealand podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Do you think I should do? Give the head transport show?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
I know, I just reckon you should grow a long
ponytail and stay balled up here, stay balled there and
just grow a ponytail like one of those creepy Jasons,
and then get some glasses and then you can talk
more about all the Jason's on the planet.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Would you do transplant?
Speaker 4 (00:29):
I don't need I can go this out of ornanty.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I don't think you could love.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
So do you have to shave your head every day?
Speaker 6 (00:34):
Like you do?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
You use that thing that you sort of hold use.
Speaker 6 (00:39):
Rais my face, But every say, third day or something,
I would be in the shower.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Just do the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I'd quite like to see you with a beer.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, you should do the bed and I'll do the ponytail.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Please make it.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I think it would make That would make me a
bit creepy, a.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Bit Well do we need a ponytail?
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Well, I'll tell you what it's like.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
It's like, you know one of those spiders of the
red back spider. It gives you a warning that it's
a creep doesn't it give your warning it's poison? It's
probably what you need, Snake.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I think I look quite cool with what color?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Would it be? Great?
Speaker 7 (01:11):
Hastory?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Great, it's got to be great, and it's got to
be so thin, and it's got to be you're tired
to get one one one. It's sort of like it's
almost like a rats table, just like you're desperate to grow.
Speaker 8 (01:29):
Mmm.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Welcome to the t B. Welcome to the t a B.
Sports kipper, sports kipper, sports k is. What was the
noise that you just make?
Speaker 6 (01:42):
I just would start with dead airs if we've been
talking on VENs you Yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry, welcome you
know that kind.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Of Yeah, we're we're just straight mates. We're just.
Speaker 9 (01:55):
I thought you were having a moment, like's agreeing with
what one of these guys said, and then you were
supposed to take over try again.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Like a stroke.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
I can't couldn't see you.
Speaker 7 (02:08):
I can just hear you.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
I was just sorry you were I'm sorry about the shaving.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Sorry, I was just doing a TV show.
Speaker 10 (02:16):
Okay, Yeah, have you guys caught up with what's going
on with Rica, Joanni and Johnny Sixton this week? Brilliant
So Johnny Sexton put a book out talked about how
after they lost to the All Blacks in the World
Cup that Rico gave him a bit of a dig
and said, enjoy your retirement, mate, have a good flight home,
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you know, and put in this book and then and
sort of said, you know, the All Blacks so so,
you know, so much for their humbleness and stuff like that.
And Rico just did a beautiful post where he put
him and Johnny Sixton after the game and just the words,
just the music from Zombie in your head, in your head, brilliant.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
But hold on.
Speaker 6 (02:56):
He said, enjoy your retirement, have a good flight home.
He could have been serious.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah, there's some swear words in the middle, and he
was putting the knife in.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Well I think it's good. I think like, like good
retire Yeah. Well they've given it to us, you know,
And it.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Just sounds a bit but you know, yeah, I told us, Yeah,
just chill mate, you know, it's just that's what happens. Yeah,
you lose Pisces, you're off and you're going to get
given him a stick.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Yeah, but it's the media running with it again, isn't it.
Speaker 10 (03:24):
But I just love the fact that he's trying to
sell I just love the fact that Rico laughed at
it and just had a dig back, you know, instead
of just sort of going, you know, oh yeah, sorry,
you know, I like that.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Surely was a few years under your belt. You think
look at things differently as well. You don't take things
quite as seriously as you do on the moment of I.
Speaker 10 (03:43):
Don't know, I mean, Zinny and Maca are still wanting
each other up about what the colin what was that
Colin Hawk ninety three or something like.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
That, any try ninety five? Yeahs of CC.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah, so yeah, people.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Say, now, no, it's not just checking.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
People don't stop good.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
And Colin Hawk lived out of christ Church and apparently
people knew where he lived. Never one or two things
deposited in his letterbox. And there's a sort of things
that you might not want body of function, bodily.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Might involve you. And also I want me sad news
that we've lost our navy. Obviously the whole thing went down.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
Yeah, that's it's not a bad thing when you ships
on fire, though, is it just emerge it that's the
best way to put out. Yeah, yeah, well they've only
got third party.
Speaker 10 (04:37):
Well, the good thing is that the whole idea of
that ship. The whole idea of the mission was to
find the reef. They found it, so they've done a
successful mission.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
It's a bit of a clusterfact.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
One hundred million.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, who is.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Shouldn't have said that though, I'm really inappropriate. No, I
don't swear normally.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
The fact that no one died and on got hurt. Seriously,
I think we can yeah joke about it. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Funny, Yeah, it's funny, but your insurance premiums go up
off the back of it.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (05:06):
So our first guess, our first GISs this week is
an Isi cricketer. And we've always enjoyed the Aussie cruiders
on the show. I mean, just look back at the
really interesting man that was Greg Matthews, who came on
with Martin Crowe, the late Great Martin crow as representatives
Advanced Hair Studios, which is obviously a theme of this
(05:28):
week show. And just talking a little bit about the
Ossie sporting mentality.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Who was the filthiest sledger than the team and wild cricket.
It depends on what you mean by filthy big. He
was gifted sledge, but he got.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
A shower with it.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
How things the big war Russ and cover that David
Bern and bad pad. Then he got away with little
five foot two tas Man with the flat trousers right
on your hip.
Speaker 11 (05:56):
Just never stop.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
You never saw his mouth?
Speaker 7 (05:58):
Thompson, how did you find him?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Didn't you love the adjectives? Use? They started with that,
They started with sea and mother got thrown in.
Speaker 7 (06:04):
There and that was about it with.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Tom I never better long.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
You must have been. You gave the terrorists at nudge
at the base and there try and just.
Speaker 7 (06:14):
Get inside their heads.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Jeremy Kenney used to sledge him when he's batting a
big backman, the spaceman.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I used to smash the back man.
Speaker 7 (06:21):
I loved it.
Speaker 12 (06:22):
You know, I just got lucky against him against one
of my only hundreds.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Are so good at sports drinking because you're so cookie.
Speaker 7 (06:31):
I think that's certainly part of it.
Speaker 10 (06:35):
It's interesting that like I think as a sportsman and
I rat with Marty while we're here, Marty sat always
comes back to you.
Speaker 7 (06:41):
You're responsible for your own actions. You've got to believe.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
You've got to be responsible for yourself, and you've got
to believe you're going to win and.
Speaker 7 (06:49):
Faith in then you have brother you're going to be there.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I wanted to say, I told you the school at
the moment, New Zealand. There's no first or second or
third place. It's all people who give him the wall.
Speaker 10 (06:58):
Since you're at school, Mark, Yeah, but I struggle that.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
My kid talk school. He does that if I you know,
if and when I'm not firing bad, Yeah, don't wondering.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
I think Money is trying to say he hears it
in a belief, he just doesn't articulate it every time
he goes out in public.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
It's not cocky.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
It's just not wins twenty.
Speaker 10 (07:18):
Did you say that you were like cocky compared to
the average as trains or you're all.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Pretty sure about it?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
A great, A good.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
How do you know you're in elect for the Aussie champion?
He'll tell you pleas keeping in proportion of the plays
like yeah, beautiful. It was sort of channeling a bit
of like sting idol.
Speaker 10 (07:40):
Yeah when you're mid that's I think just caring on
to join us as the cricket legend from Adam Gilchrist.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Hell a guys team everyone, m what do you.
Speaker 10 (07:55):
Think about you know, from as a New Zealand that
we we see the Aussies as very cocky, you know,
as being a big part.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Of why you're so successful. Is that for you?
Speaker 8 (08:05):
Oh yeah, absolutely, if you're taking us, if the gauge
and the barometer is from one Gregory Matthews, it's going
to be definitely a type of cockiness about us all.
But hey, I think the Billie Idole reference there would
be something that would really that Moe would love more
(08:27):
than more than sting. But no, I think there's a
It's funny. We get introduced to sport as youngsters, like
most sports playing nations do, but right from the beginning
there's this level of you've got to be aggressive, you've
got to be carry yourself with a bit of confidence
and be certainly your body language towards your opponent needs
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to be positive and don't get pushed back on.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
So whether that's right or wrong, it's hard.
Speaker 8 (08:55):
It's a stereotypical image and every individual goes about it
their own way, and I think in this day and
age more so certainly the Australian creat team, there's characters
in there that don't want to play to that stereotype.
But it certainly starts at a young age over here
for sure.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I think it's a beautiful thing, you know, Like it
seems to me the difference between Aussi's and Kiwi's is
that Aussi's will win it all cost and they don't
care about the consequences, whereas we prefer to come seeking
to be seen as a good guy. And I reckon
that's a defeatist mentality, and I think it comes from
the fact that, you know, with respect, we chose to
come to New Zealand. They are probably sent there and
(09:33):
you know their bush wants to kill them, and how
bush is our friend. So it's a hardened mentality. I'm
being half serious on this, Yeah, hardened mentality in a
very harsh land, which is going to your crocodiles, bloody,
poisonous everything. You've got to be a tough guy to
make it over there, you know. So the attitude's key
and I love the Aussi attitude.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Is there a question?
Speaker 5 (09:54):
And then all the reception I kind of get is
that the Australians don't really look at us as a
major threat as competition, whereas you look at everyone else
in the world is bigger threats, Like I feel like
We're always going to be the sort of second Cousins
Australia's you have this arrogance which is a confidence. When
I look at the way you go into your sports
games against New Zealand, it really is a you feel
(10:14):
like you're the big brother when you go into a
game against US.
Speaker 8 (10:17):
I think there's a few sports where.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Results may beg to differ on that.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
I think I think there's the results, but it's the
confidence that you take into the game.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
You come across and you're always.
Speaker 8 (10:28):
I mean to the point about being seen as being
good guys. I remember at the International Cricket Awards every
year New Zealand Stephen Fleming having to get up and
receive the trophy for the voted by the fairest as
the fairest team, and he worked out, he stood up
in every year year on year said yeah, confirmation again
(10:48):
that we're the best losers.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
So that probably lightheartedly summed up their approach.
Speaker 8 (10:54):
But yeahs say, there's an air of confidence that's instilled
in you, or a belief that you have to have
that to aspire to get to the top. And I
remember looking at the Ossie Creet teams when we were young.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Chapels Lily Marsh Geez you know, no one.
Speaker 8 (11:14):
Was taking a backward step there, so they were the
idols that we grew up trying to replicate, and we
felt even at under nineteen level. You know, I remember
touring England in austra under nineteen team and we thought, oh,
we going to go over there and roughly these blokes
up not just play and win it, but we've got
to leave a really nasty impression on them because hopefully
we're going to come up against them for the rest
(11:35):
of our careers.
Speaker 10 (11:36):
Yeah, because I mean when you first came into the
Australian cricket team, was it hard as a as a youngster,
as a newcomer. Did they sort of make you earn
your stripes very much?
Speaker 9 (11:47):
So?
Speaker 8 (11:47):
Yeah, at every level, And I think I would say
this surely is reflective across all a majority of sports
around most sport playing nations.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
But it started at a club level.
Speaker 8 (12:00):
And what my recollections of my first sort of years
of first grade saying Sydney or even I was regional,
so playing first grade men's in country New South Wales,
I was fourteen, but I know that you know that
the older adults in the team didn't make it easy
for me.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
To get too carried away.
Speaker 8 (12:19):
They welcomed you in, but they certainly let you know
where you were in the pecking order, and that just
translated all the way through to when you got into
the national team. You knew you were the youngest there
or the newest there, and you had to sort of
earn your stripes. It was just a natural sort of progression.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Really.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
The beauty of cricket, though, is in many ways that
it's a psychological game. I mean, like there's it's a
chess match. Every ball, you know, and the chip that
goes on and the way that you carry yourself as
you say, I mean, it's often the most fulfilling wicket.
You know, I'm going back to playing at school, but
the most fulfilling wicked is when somebody's bloody brilliant. You've
given him so much shit that he gets himself out.
And that's where I think the Aussies were just the best.
(12:59):
They chipping away and you know, being overtly confident but
taking the person, probing and goating. I loved it. I
loved watching you guys do that still do to this day.
Speaker 8 (13:08):
I think it's brilliant to the point where we took
you know, we there's one stage there where Australian create
decided to go away from the mental disintegration as Tuger
used to call it, and just decide other tactics like
you know, scratch the ball and things like that, just
have a bit of fun, just to see how the
world took it.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
And they didn't take it very well. Now I say
that in jest.
Speaker 8 (13:33):
I mean go back to the win it all cost
I'd get that joke in before one of you did.
But yeah, win it all costs, but at what cost?
So hopefully there's a there's a balance there somewhere where
we can rein it in and just go if we
getting outplayed, you getting outplayed, just just just stick to it.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
But the guys you played with, you must have set
around having a few beers and going okay, well, you know,
and naming the other teams that you're going to play
against and how you were going to chip away at them,
and who was going to do what. Surely, yeah, I
mean that would have been a very significant analytical part
of the of the pregameouldn't Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (14:09):
And I remember sitting and talking about different personalities and
different players in the opposition and in team meetings and
just working out you know, who are going to be
more aggressive against. And there was a few guys that
were probably easy targets, but there was a few.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Guys off limits.
Speaker 8 (14:25):
A guy like Brian Mahra from the West Indies at
Steve Wore, you know, I significantly remember him saying don't
go at him because that's a trigger for Brian. He
needed a fight, he needed a scrap to trigger himself
and lo and beholding anti. Brian comes out to bat
and before he's faced the ball, Tugger's run in from
gully and shredded him absolutely tall strips off him and
(14:50):
you know, one hundred off eighty balls later, we're sort
of looking at our captain going what was that about?
But yeah, there was general I mean Sacchein, you could
all the great players, it didn't FaZe him. Your target
Satchin and try to say a few things to him,
but he was just too much in the zone.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Rahul Dravid, you know.
Speaker 8 (15:09):
So there was and there was other guys that you
try to try to bring along the journey in a
verbal sense, but.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Good fun. I think it came out way.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
To who would absolutely one hundred percent capitulate if you
gave them chap who was who was an easy target?
He's not going to say it must be a key.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
We Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Didn't say a lot. Believe it or not, I didn't.
I didn't. If something was on, I didn't walk away.
Speaker 8 (15:41):
But I hated to start it because the moment the
words left my mouth, whether I was batting or keeping,
if I engage and said something, particularly if I initiated it,
I just thought idea, like the reality is next ball
I could have my middle stump knocked out, or next ball,
I could drop this s bloke and he goes on
and gets a hundred. So I felt nervous, but it
(16:02):
was hard for me to get a word him. Some
of the boats, some of my teammates around, they were
already going. But a guy that I love scrapping with
who would be close to home to New Zealand is
Craig McMillan.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Jeseus, it didn't.
Speaker 8 (16:15):
It took nothing, you know, just wink at Macer or
look at him the wrong way and it was on.
And he and I locked horns a few times, but
had a early healthy respect off the field. I love
him now, but Jesus that there were some good scraps there.
And to the point about earlier about whether we thought
New Zealand were a threat or night. We seemed to
(16:36):
get held up a few times by New Zealand, particularly
out here in one summer I think it was two
thousand and one too. It was a drawn series three drawers,
and it just annoyed the life out of us. So
we had to resort to every tactic and a few
of their boys didn't mind coming turning back around and
giving a bit back name.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
It was a good sledge from our team because somebody
we can sort of bear, I can get behind because
we didn't. We didn't see it. I reckon Chris Kens
would have given a bit, wouldn't we.
Speaker 8 (17:05):
Well, Canzy could back it up, and he played in
a couple of series against us, absolutely smoked.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Us, so he could back it up.
Speaker 8 (17:13):
He was aggressive, he had carried himself in a positive manner,
and I mean Flemo was too articulate and too smart
for me and most of.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Our team everything.
Speaker 8 (17:23):
Every time he sort of said something, it took us
a while to sort of recalibrate that what had come
out of his mouth into our language.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
But he's a ripping guy.
Speaker 8 (17:34):
Even a young bas McCullum was confident enough when he
you know, I just overlapped careers with him.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
But you could tell that he had a bit of
get up and go about him.
Speaker 8 (17:44):
And I mean, Bondie Jesus, he did not have to speak.
He was bowling like the wind and basically ripping through us.
Most of the time.
Speaker 10 (17:54):
You played with some absolute legends that for us, you know,
like Shane warn And it's one that immediately comes to mind.
I mean, who are some of your favorite sort of teammates.
Who are some of the guys that you just enjoyed
spending time with?
Speaker 8 (18:08):
Yeah, well, two guys my favorite teammate. This is going
to be not going to drag the mood down. But
unfortunately the two guys on about in a first passed
away a couple of years ago. And we know Andrew
Simon's I think, is anyone's favorite teammate. I think if
you're picking a cricket team of any type, whether a
Test or one days or T twenty, Andrew Simons at
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six is your perfect prototype player and bat's bowls fields
and is just the greatest teammate you could ever want
to have. As far as the word, you know, the
definition of teammate and doing everything unconditionally for each other.
That was Roy and a really funny bastard too. And
then the best thing I ever did in cricket was
(18:54):
we could keep the shame warning it simply the highlight
of my career was to have the best seat in
the house. Was completely mesmerizing to watch him at the
top of his you know, it's been said before about him,
but it was a it was like a theater. It
was a stage for warning, and he knew he was
(19:14):
the lead act and loved it, lapped it up and
played the role beautifully. So the effect talk about the
psychology before it is, it was astounding to see just
the presence of warning what that could do psychologically do
other batters and you know, and then he played it up.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
He played to the umpires.
Speaker 8 (19:36):
He timed his run, the perfect one with warning at
the top of his mark, and he'd be ready and
he'd hold and he'd hold. And the batter had been
his stance, waiting, waiting, waiting. There's no reason why Warney
hasn't walked into bowl yet. But the batter would wait, wait, wait,
and then finally pull out of his stance, wondering what's
going on At that point, Warny would start coming into
bowl and then you know, hey, what are you holding
(19:58):
me up for?
Speaker 1 (19:58):
And like just his by play back and forward.
Speaker 8 (20:02):
But his skill set was also mesmerizing, just phenomenal. To know,
the hardest art in the game that we played, he
was the best exponent of it, I think ever, and
the control he had added to that extraordinary, extraordinarily tough
mindset that was fascinating.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
He's got to be the only guy on the field.
He could pick what he was bowling to us.
Speaker 8 (20:24):
Bose Yeah, well yeah, I could pick Warney well enough.
But there's a difference between picking him and then being
in the right spot to take the ball, because sometimes
you could pick his leggie. You pick one leg and
it spins a few inches and the next one looks identical,
but it spins about two foot, so you had to
be You're still it's just as magic. Just you were
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on every boy, you felt like you're in the game
and you were being entertained. You sort of had the
popcorn sitting beside you and you're in the movie. He's
been entertained to every single delivery. And then at the
end of the over, you know a really tough job
then was to go up and wicket keep six balls
to Glen McGrath who was bowling perfection and you got
warning at first lip telling you about his off field activity,
(21:07):
so that your entertainment unbelievable.
Speaker 10 (21:10):
Actually you mentioned Andrew Simons before. You know, this show
has been around a long time. And actually the second
story you ever did for us Lee was going to
interview the Ossie cricketers, because you know you're a patriot.
You you put some laxative and some Coca Cola and
then gave it to them to drink. And this is
sort of the catch up.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Look at this.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
How'd you get with that?
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Lee?
Speaker 2 (21:35):
We'll show you play the track now.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
Hey, fellas Arthur Deco, Sports Cafe, Coke, Fisherman Yer teams.
Speaker 7 (21:46):
Going pretty damn well, isn't it?
Speaker 12 (21:48):
We could be doing better, Let's be honest, and we're
working towards being a better team. It's fantastic, isn't it?
Here the tours playing, hasn't it? Good food, great people?
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Yea.
Speaker 12 (21:59):
Put me in a cricket ground. It's a bit different, but.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
Kind of curious about, you know, cricketers and the superstitions
and stuff.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
You guys got.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
Any you know little things, you know, left foot, do
your left laces up first?
Speaker 12 (22:12):
Or you know you were underpants backwards?
Speaker 7 (22:14):
Were my stuff inside out? That's mainly because the seams
don't dig India. That makes a bit of sense to me.
About what other nicknames have got on the team there, pigeon.
Speaker 12 (22:25):
Pigeon McGrath, pigeon lakes, pigeon brain. You've got a good one,
Andrew call him similar to Simsy to me, mate, Yeah,
my one's quite inventive. Yeah, so we're quite smart, very.
Speaker 7 (22:43):
Bing bing Lee brilliant.
Speaker 12 (22:46):
I like Mark wore was one years ago when when
Steven Moore was in the Test team and Mark wasn't,
they called him afghan Afghanistan. They've forgotten more quiet and
now he's called granddad granddad.
Speaker 7 (22:59):
Speaking of you mentioned Brettley back then? How quick is he?
Pretty sharp? Yeah? You reckon t reckon market person in
that track. So you can do anything. I reckon you
could do anything like that.
Speaker 12 (23:13):
You've got a few of those hanging around a lot.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
He's got that. Yeah, can't teach it.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Seriously, I could sit and watch Roy NonStop.
Speaker 8 (23:41):
Anything you did was cool and innocent and naive, but
fun and scoreless.
Speaker 10 (23:47):
I met him in the bar once and I was
with Michael Campbell, the golfer, and and Steve Wore and
Andrew Simon's came up and Michael was having an unbelievable
run at the time, and they they were like, you know, Michael,
you just you know, so impressive and so inspirational with
your golf and everything you do. And they took to
him for about twenty minutes and then they left and
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Michael turned around to me and he said, who are
those guys And I said, there's the war and Andrew Simons,
Oh my god, and he rushed off and got their autographs.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah, he's such a good man. What about What about
your own career?
Speaker 10 (24:22):
I mean you started off in New South Wales but
then moved to really western Australia. They have a bit
of crack of it is that you know, we see
everything you did, but you had to work to get there.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (24:34):
I grew up regional New South Wales, ended up in Sydney,
played ten games I think for New South Wales just
as a batsman. But I wanted to keep and that
pathway was blocked at the time by a bloke called
Phil Emery, so looked around at what the opportunities.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
And where they may lie, and w A was one where.
Speaker 8 (24:56):
Tim Zura was a former national keeper but he was
coming towards the end of his career. So I came
over here thinking maybe a year underneath back as under
study to him, I might get a chance, and as
it turned out, they sacked him straight away and put
me in, a young unknown new South Welshman playing for WA.
So it's not very parochial over here. They absolutely cream
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met the locals, but.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
It was yeah, that was thirty years ago.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
You got you on the front foot as well with
the ball coming through it did.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
It's a wonderful place to play cricket over here in Perth.
Speaker 8 (25:32):
But that opportunity to get samount of spot in in
the Sheffield Hill team and the one day domestic team,
and then all of a sudden I was in the
one day team for the Australian So I think probably
I was a beneficiary of Around nineteen ninety six, at
a World Cup, Sri Lanka decided to throw their wicket
keeper up to the top of the order and say
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basically go out there and slog and they won the
World Cup. So that became the blueprint for every nation
and that gave me an opportunity to get into one
day cricket at the top of the order.
Speaker 6 (26:04):
I was going to say that, what's the lady sept
with you with say keeping and batting. You said you
started as a batter, Mack.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
You've probably answered this as well.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
But watching so many balls from there is that must
help your batting, you know, watching so many bowlers like
so Shane Warne and a different pay we're trying to.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Read the ball. Does that help you as about it?
Speaker 6 (26:22):
Because as you say, it's a relatively new thing having
keepers who are weigh up the order nowadays, it was.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
It always the case.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Good question, Thanks you, good question.
Speaker 8 (26:31):
That a good question, definitely, it's a good point, particularly
in fifty over cricket. Everyone used to say keeping fifty
overs and then going out and open the batting, you're
going to you're going to be naked, you're going to be.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Fatigued and not switched on.
Speaker 8 (26:44):
But I found I had more success with the bat
batting second in one day in the national cricket because
I do think to your point, Lee, you've had a
chance to size up the conditions, You've got the best
view of the house on the pitch. You've seen play,
how it's played over fifty overs and if anything, by
going back out straight away, you're sort of you're.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
In the game. That's what I loved about it.
Speaker 6 (27:08):
And just as a follow up questions that, I mean,
you would have had a lot of questions asked of
you over the last few years about cricket.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Is that one of the better ones.
Speaker 8 (27:18):
It's typically like we do a lot of primary school
visits and we get a lot of questions.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
So it's sort of it's in around that that benchmark.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
But happy to take a roll with it for you,
just to bring it up for speed.
Speaker 10 (27:30):
It's funny when I was looking for some old clips
from shows about cricket and stuff, you know, talking about
that attitude that the Assies have compared to the New Zealanders.
This is a clip of the great Sir Richard Hadley
on the couch. But we're talking about Daniel Victory at
eighteen showing too much emotion and when he was being
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frustrated and letting those frustrations show. So we can just
press play and so we have a look at this
clip which.
Speaker 11 (27:57):
In truested on what we're talking about before about Daniel
for Tori, about what you're saying when he was bowling
and showing signs of frustration. Does who's the guy on
the team that should be telling that guy to not
sort of sort of close up and not show signs
to the batter I like to experience better.
Speaker 7 (28:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (28:16):
I think the type of things you're talking about is
when he get hits for four or there's a drop
catch or a miss field, he sort of goes down
on his launches and his heads into his hands and
he's sort of showing an expression which is understandable and
we're all guilty of that. We all have done that
during our career.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
But is he doing it more often?
Speaker 13 (28:31):
But well, I think so, And I just think that
it gives the batsman, you know, an advantage because if
he hits him for four more than he keeps getting
this reaction and he can really set grind down and
so perps the coach or the captain or other players
need to rity around and say come on, just don't
quite show the sort of emotion and just get on
with the game. But that's going to come with experience.
Because he's only eighteen.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Which he really qualified to be making these.
Speaker 10 (28:55):
Yeah, well, I'm giving you an idea of how long
how long the show has been going, because you know
Daniel Victory was eighteen.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
But that's that's also you know when the All Blacks
win these days, and then he's asked that because when
the All Backs won back then, even if they were
stoked to win, or even if they just won him
last minute with a penalty, you walk off like you
expected to win. You don't chow any emotion at all.
You know, when you scored a try, you didn't celebrate.
Now if they win a game against a team that's
pretty average, they still jump in the air, which is
(29:23):
I reckon to the point of psychologically owning a space.
Probably not the greatest.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Shout Richard, it was that double danhim because that's outstanding.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Yeah, it wasn't double danim. It was and tucked in
further more tucked than and built it up. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yeah, they like a high panting those days, didn't they.
But I've been guilty of that before.
Speaker 10 (29:42):
Talking about Daniel Victori at eighteen, when he was getting
hit for four, he got really frustrated and you could
see the frustration on.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
His face show showing emotion.
Speaker 10 (29:52):
So as a batsman, when you saw the bowler getting
frustrated when you're hitting him over the boundary?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Did that fuel you?
Speaker 1 (29:58):
It did with Daniel.
Speaker 8 (29:59):
I hit one hundred and six is in Test cricket
and I hit him for seventeen So that was.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Sorry. Am I going back to that arrogant Australian thing.
Speaker 7 (30:11):
We like it.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
We're working beautifully off the.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Question he's now part of the Aussie bowling team.
Speaker 8 (30:18):
I haven't had I haven't batted in cricket competitive cricket
for ten years. But when I see him bowling to
the Australians and the nets went on broadcasting, I actually
go and ask if I can overhit.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
But he's a terrific fella. I love Daniel again.
Speaker 8 (30:37):
I reckon there was a great cricket a great cricket player,
but I think he was an outstanding writer. The late
Peter Roebuck from England who passed away some years ago.
But I thought he wrote beautifully about the game. And
he wrote a line that's saying that cricketers need to
wear a cape of bravado and have to conceal everything
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underneath it. But the outward expression again, body language, whatever
you want, and a lot of international sports people, you
go down that line. And that resonated with me because
I tried to put on this positive sort of exterior,
but I knew the interior the mind that everything at
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various times, not always, but at times you were scrambling,
you were out of control, and you were lacking confidence
or whatever it may be. So we grew up trying
to not let the opponent know how you're going, because
you would. The theory was that that's only going to
help them out. So, yeah, I guess everyone's got their
different techniques.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
If you're going through a poor patch, which you'll do
in cricket, you know, you had a couple of those scores.
It seemed to me that the Aussie attitude was right
down the wicket and have a crack, rather than trying
to sort of technically play yourself back out and you know,
you just be your beck, your eye and give it
a go.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Yeah, spot on.
Speaker 8 (31:56):
And there was certainly for the bulk of the ear
that I was playing in Test Create it seemed when
we lost, we lost badly. We and we we never
seem to play out drawers unless they were weather affected.
But as soon as yeah, we were fortunate we had
a team of six or seven Hall of famers, and
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we're a dominant era. But when a team did get
a hold of us or get under our skin and
get into the contest, it usually deteriorated pretty quick because
you know, maybe it was a little bit of foreign
territory for us. But we and we did address that.
We started to try to say, well, if we're under pressure,
were to find a way to fight out, not not
just swing out of it. So that was probably a
(32:40):
little achilles Heill for us through that period of time.
Speaker 10 (32:42):
Just about some other sides of your life apart from cricket.
I saw when I was doing some research. That's that's
what you do. Yeah, before you have a guest on,
you do some research.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Guys, I've got a podcast. I need to learn that.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Yeah, I've seen my notes through.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
What's your podcast about cricket?
Speaker 8 (33:01):
I'd say tequila with a loose reference to cricket occasionally.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Well, let's talk about tequila. Then, what's your passion for tequila?
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Just love it.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
I've just always loved it and I love sharing it.
I know everyone a lot of people you mentioned.
Speaker 8 (33:20):
Tequila, and they they've grown and it's that it's that
drink you know from from way back, the bad experience.
But I like reintroducing people to tequila just with a
little little ritual that just don't have to overindulge, don't
have to be shared experience together and away you go.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
We were talking, we were talking about earlier. What's your
favorite tequila?
Speaker 8 (33:41):
Uh, it's it's yet to be released. It will be
in April. It's still coming.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Personal, isn't.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
It's a it's a cracking, cracking drink, first drink of
the day tequila. Not this is the reason to This
is the reason people hate it because you have it
at the end of the night and which is the
lights out, you know, that's that's the memories switch going.
But if you have it, it's the first first couple
of drinks of the day, it's just a beautiful lifter.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
You can go a bottle straight without sculling it and
no hangover.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
I don't think you need to drink the whole bottle
over very.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
What about miss Gale, you do you have a little
sup on the messcale as well?
Speaker 8 (34:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Not not not, as I'm not as passionate about that.
Speaker 8 (34:22):
I've never been a whiskey drinker with all the smoky
heaviness to it, but it's always a bit more cleaner
and lighter the tequila preference. But yeah, I was in
Mexico July this year and in the tequila region and
managed to try a few a few more mezcals over there.
But it's all good stuff.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
We'll walk up into the hills and you'll try some
mushrooms as well. They're pretty.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
An a sermon, we're going to do an asca ceremony
over there.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
We're going to head over and while we're not drinking
at the moment, we're sort of just cleansing for a
few weeks before.
Speaker 6 (34:56):
Sharman Sharmangers And actually a few years ago something called charmaine.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Animal wasn't.
Speaker 10 (35:07):
And the other thing in the research that came out,
I don't know if this is true, but it said
that towards the end of your career you got approached
by the Boston Red Sox.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Yeah, I was offered it.
Speaker 8 (35:18):
There was an Australian coach on their coaching staff and
Izzie Baseball bit of a legend over here, and he
was on their staff and he took some so I
suppose they were tapes, not even CDs in those days.
Back over to Boston after one summer year for chess
or beat or something. But their coaching staff were One,
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they were amazed at our outfielders in cricket catch barehanded.
And two they saw a highlight of me batting, and
their their batting coach afforded me the opportunity to go
and have a hit there and as they say, hit
a few balls and see how it goes.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
So I don't know.
Speaker 8 (36:03):
I don't know that they were out there scouting and
targeted me, and I don't think there was a seven
figure contract on the table, but they afforded me the
opportunity to go and hit a few balls and see
if I wanted to explore the avenues of baseball.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
But how'd you go?
Speaker 1 (36:17):
I declined that I was.
Speaker 8 (36:19):
I only played one game of baseball and that was
at my high school where we were down seven nil
in the second innings and we had to concede under
the mercy rule because the school bus was ready to go.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
We were getting pumped. So it wasn't a great wasn't
a great baseball experience for me?
Speaker 3 (36:35):
No, you actually didn't go and have a bat. You
didn't jump in and have a swing. Because I tried
that in Holland, you know, and I played cracket all
through school and all that sort of stuff. Love cracket,
and I thought this, I really want to see how
this goes, you know, roundball, round bat hopeless. It was
lady difficult. It was really you know, I mean they
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get a little curve going on it and dips and
just you know, you were sort of hoping for a
fast straight ball, you know you might be able to
keep your eye on. It was hard, bloody hard. And
they were Dutch. I mean, they weren't good players by
comparison to.
Speaker 10 (37:12):
Yeah, I was going to stay holand sadly the hot
bed of global baseball, is it? Yeah, well, I mean
start slow, start small.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
So what do you do now?
Speaker 10 (37:23):
I mean obviously you do the commentary. The podcast is
that sort of full time keeping you busy.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Yeah, commentary through the summer in Australia.
Speaker 8 (37:32):
Podcast has just been a bit of fun with Vornie,
Michael Vaughan from from the UK and a couple of
other guys that I literally launched the podcast. It's called
Club Prairie Fire because that drink that little drink ritual,
which is a shot of tequila with three drops of tabasco.
That's called a prairie fire. So great, I think, great,
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great way to start your day.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
And I think I could chuck a bluff oyster into that.
You know, the bluff voices the best in the world.
Chuck one of them on the tequila with the tabasco,
and that that be that. It will be the only
thing I reckon you'd add to it or could and.
Speaker 6 (38:10):
What I would say, reck as well if you don't,
if you chuck some bottels out this way, we can
drink it on the show.
Speaker 8 (38:15):
That's that's exactly what I will be doing, lady in gents.
As I say, a April's out hopeful launch date. So
it's a new one coming hopefully a reintroduction to tequila
for a lot of people. But so that's taken up
as much time as anything at the moment, and Jesus
good fun.
Speaker 10 (38:35):
Actually, I just thought there's I know one New Zealand
cricketer that you could get into his head pretty quickly,
Mark Richardson. But it's the problem with Mark richardsters once
you got in your head, you didn't quite like what
you found in there, and you wanted to get out
of there.
Speaker 8 (38:54):
That the overriding image of rich he was. He was
a tough competitor, he was, you know, very determined character.
But him doing the one hundred meter dash with Darren
Lehman at the Adelaide Oval, that's tough image in the
full likra for both of them.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Tough image to get out of their head. But New
Zealand were victorious that day.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Yeah. The two slightest guys on the team, was it.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Yeah, yeah, two guys in the world. Well you need
to be a like if you're going.
Speaker 8 (39:23):
To run inspired by the Kathy Kathy Freeman two thousand Olympics.
Speaker 14 (39:30):
Yeah, we're going to do this show and like for
next week actually, so that's that's bring the dancing outfits out.
Yeah all right mate, I'll go thank you so much
for your time and yeah, I mean we love the
Aussie cricket attitude, so it's a real pleasure to sort
of get to get to hear about it from someone
that's part of it.
Speaker 8 (39:50):
Awesome, great chat, good fun and I'll definitely you'll be
on the list once we've got some samples.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
I'll get mate.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
The other thing we didn't get to talk to him
about the commentary, but I'll find myself the Christmas has started.
When on Boxing Day you can turn on the Boxing
Day Test and you've got a beautiful, hot summer's day
in Australia and the Aussie commentators are prepping for the
game and they're telling you why the fields set like that,
why there's three slips and you know why he is
(40:22):
coming around the record or why is coming close to
the worked Just the insight that they give you is unparalleled.
The best commentary team in any sport for me in
the world. I love it.
Speaker 10 (40:34):
A big part of the Aussie cricket mentality is when
they win, they have a victory song and it's something
that's really coming to New Zealand sport. And I saw
this on the on the weekend when Wellington won their
NPC game. They posted this of their victory song and
the changing roses. I thought was pretty awesome.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
A lion, It's great. I love that coming coming into sporotstory.
Speaker 7 (41:52):
Ut.
Speaker 10 (41:53):
Yeah, like having a song and you know what would
be awesome is for that to be shared with their
fans and the fans to start singing it at the
end of games and to really sort of building the
only the only downside with that was the it was
the one of the white guys was on the hitting
the thing and it was just out of rhythm.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Oh yeah, but that that rhythm came back, it actually
worked at the end. I don't know whether that was.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Yeh would you do?
Speaker 15 (42:18):
What do you?
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Yeah? I think now.
Speaker 10 (42:20):
Now, the good news about the TB bets this week
is it was all put on the NRL Grand Final
Melbourne Penrith, and we split into two areas where you
guys all bet on Melbourne publicly, like the whole nation
saw that you put money on Melbourne, right, and I
put some money on Penrith and Penrith won, so I
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won some money for us and you lost the money
that you bet.
Speaker 5 (42:42):
But you would have bet like two dollars on your
bet and probably put twenty dollars in our bit.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
You guys have put fifty dollars on Melbourne and I
put ten dollars on that.
Speaker 5 (42:51):
What would you do that on our behalf like gambling school.
I know there's gambling for people that have got a
problem that gambled too much, but they might be school
for people that need to learn how to gamble.
Speaker 4 (43:00):
You might need to go to that school people that
need opposite.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
Yeah, you don't want to quit. You just want to
get good at it, want to be.
Speaker 7 (43:06):
Better at it.
Speaker 5 (43:07):
It's someone that can double down.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
You guys lost and I won. Mm hmmm, so that's
I mate.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
I just what did you want some food?
Speaker 4 (43:18):
We've got food coming.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
It's really thoughtful.
Speaker 5 (43:20):
While those pants are slipping off, I did ask for
some food like five weeks ago.
Speaker 10 (43:25):
It's quite a lot of showing.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
And I just I've just been struggling with the whole.
Speaker 5 (43:33):
Did you get enough for everyone or just for yourself?
Speaker 2 (43:35):
Well, I don't know. You guys were hungry.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
What is that fried chicken?
Speaker 12 (43:38):
No?
Speaker 2 (43:38):
I just got some door dash, which I quite often do,
and I just got some sushi.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
Just you've got enough sushi for one?
Speaker 2 (43:46):
What is an? It's really rude pieces pieces? So I
didn't enough to share.
Speaker 4 (43:54):
Filming at them? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (43:57):
Yeah, it just comes up on the platform. Shove it's
very nice. Mullet in their face.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Just this works really well. You just go on and
happ and then they delivers your food.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
You're not gonna eat that with you but your fingers though,
You're going to use some chop chops.
Speaker 7 (44:12):
With my fingers ready?
Speaker 4 (44:14):
Anyway?
Speaker 3 (44:15):
You know that's culturally approah, is it?
Speaker 6 (44:18):
Yeah, speaking of you know, Asian food, which you know,
sushi pretty much is, isn't it. It's a Japanese thing
in case you know that it's you know, the chopsticks.
I have this this idea. I was using chop sticks
the other day, and you know, you have your miso
soups and there's something not good for that. But why
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don't they make the chop sticks hollow in the middle
so you can use it and then you can use
it as a straw and get all the soy sauce
and all the goodness that's left in the bottom, you know,
And what was that would that be culturally? You know
there will be a reason though.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
Don't do that.
Speaker 10 (44:52):
I think the straws will work really well on the
miso soup. Yeah, so you could have the chopsticks for
the sushi and then the miso soup will be covered
with a straw.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
That was what he was saying.
Speaker 4 (45:04):
He used the chopsticks as the straw instead of double
handling it.
Speaker 6 (45:08):
Often if you use a lot of soy sauce, there
could be nice sauce and stuff left over.
Speaker 5 (45:14):
And you know, and the little reservoir in the restaurant
it was just so gross into the world that the
sound fixed milk.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Is anyone want some of the sush that looks good but.
Speaker 5 (45:25):
Don't think food like that finger you finger it.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
It's like it's really.
Speaker 10 (45:30):
Gross because it's hard to eat and present. M you
just go with this clip. This was a surprise to me.
I remember this clip.
Speaker 4 (45:39):
You're putting purely so you can have a feed.
Speaker 7 (45:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Yeah, he's just trying to the hunk of rice on
his nose.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
This is a mensing clip you've got.
Speaker 7 (45:49):
Yeah, you feel hungry.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
It's down here, it's eating clip.
Speaker 4 (45:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (45:53):
Eating.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
This is when we're eating the hot dog.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
This is when we had a juggler on the shape.
Speaker 6 (45:58):
This one for you.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Now it's your turn.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
No no, don't no, don't.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
Littles, got the little sharp things doesn't happen?
Speaker 7 (46:21):
Don't mark.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
You can you can draggle like.
Speaker 4 (46:33):
A chair on your chin as well, can't.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
Yeah, whatever's fat pregnant?
Speaker 2 (46:38):
I'm not quite sure the fat prick you were talking
to on the show.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
What the best juggling thing I ever saw was at
University of was a guy juggling fire and you know,
juggling something on juggling little sticks on fire. But the
sticks were had a little gelatinous sort of starting. Yeah,
and we said, mate, we'll give you twenty bucks if
you eat it. You know, so you sort of pretended
(47:02):
to put the drop went on the chin and it
was still on. Fine, they wiped it off. He went
up like a Roman candle, and I found it pretty
We gave him twenty bucks. Put it that way, you said,
flaming flaming books. He had got a burnt face, but
he would have healed. He would have healed. He they'd
(47:24):
probably learned from that. He wouldn't have done it again.
Speaker 4 (47:27):
No, that's the only way you learned.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
Not men Russia. It's like it's like the people drinking
the flaming temple of the book and the ship face.
They just throw it on their face and.
Speaker 4 (47:36):
It's like it's so sticky. Got to wipe it off,
and the whole going.
Speaker 6 (47:41):
They originally used it being armed before they had no
palm books, tanks.
Speaker 4 (47:44):
They just flaming zam book and then.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
They just threw the same booker out cut that out out.
Speaker 10 (47:49):
Yeahalized we'd cut everything out that we shouldn't.
Speaker 4 (47:55):
Keep the chops, and yeah, that's a good idea, Yeah,
I think, And so through. Hey, by the way, only
one of the chop sets has to be can you
get a free seat with your cash?
Speaker 6 (48:06):
That might make brittle, Yeah, but you know you get
those good chop STIPs which are not wooden but more like.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
Yeah yeah, Ivory Ivory. Yeah yeah, you're not Ivory Ivory.
Speaker 10 (48:20):
You're not really into the You've already revolutionized potato chips
and in CASHU nights. I mean, do you want to
sort of leave me so super imon or No?
Speaker 3 (48:29):
I think you should actually branch out.
Speaker 10 (48:31):
I think it would be Yeah, you weren't so successful
with guitar tuning.
Speaker 4 (48:36):
Oh yeah, that's why not paying the guitar today. Actually
I'll show you. I'll just show you what happened to it.
Technical nightmare.
Speaker 3 (48:47):
You're paying the stringer?
Speaker 4 (48:48):
Yeah, well most of them. I bought this little gadget on.
Speaker 6 (48:58):
So it's like a little guitar thing you tell you
what you do you are instead of if you're not lazy,
you can't be bothered tuning your guitar.
Speaker 4 (49:04):
You step this on there somehow and that'll it'll tell
him out of tune. Then it will actually.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
Round like a like a robot.
Speaker 3 (49:17):
And I don't know what's going on here. But and
it's fun that and snap snapped on the stringth of it. Yeah,
ripped the neck of it because I was Yeah, you're
playing with that late at night.
Speaker 4 (49:27):
I know you would. So if they if they, if
these guys branch into sex toys, they probably want to.
Speaker 3 (49:33):
Take research to take your banjo string right off, wouldn't it.
Speaker 4 (49:37):
Yeah, well that you know, I give you. That's probably
not what you're supposed to be using it for. You
can't use it for a banjo yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:43):
Yeah, the banjo stringer. Yeah, No, wonder people would be
a would be full, wouldn't if.
Speaker 4 (49:49):
They can get it going for you?
Speaker 2 (49:51):
Well, you've already killed it, so.
Speaker 7 (49:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (49:55):
Anyway, I don't want to. It's a great thing, but
it's one of those things you didn't really need, you
know anyway. That's why there's no music.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
Yeah, that's good. Now, just before we go, Atlanta sent
me a video that's inappropriate, and.
Speaker 3 (50:09):
I just liked the flag it no flag, I'm showered.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
No, I'm gonna shower.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
Okay, didn't see any inappropriate ones.
Speaker 15 (50:17):
The young man was sitting at the beach. We noticed
the man jogging near the water. The jogger had a
buff body like Hercules, but his head was the size
of a baseball. The young man was curious and chased
down the jogger. The young man asked, do you mind
if I asked what happened to your head? The jogger
said sure. One day I was jogging down the beach
like I do every day to keep in shape. I
heard a scream in a shallow water. There was a
mermaid tangled up in seaweed and old fishing lines. I
(50:38):
helped her get free, and she was very, very grateful.
She said, thank you, sir for saving me. To show
my gratitude, I will grant you one wish for anything
you want. Being a guy, the first thing you thought
of was how about some love making? The mermaid said, dude,
I'm a mermaid.
Speaker 6 (50:51):
I'm not ill for that.
Speaker 15 (50:52):
The guy said, how about a little head.
Speaker 5 (51:00):
The reason why it was funny is because you didn't
hear that he was jogging on the beach with.
Speaker 7 (51:06):
So good.
Speaker 3 (51:08):
Yeah. It's a little things in life, isn't it. Yeah?
Speaker 2 (51:11):
Sometimes, Yeah, I'd like to finish because I'm straight.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
I've seen you some stuff with mine.
Speaker 4 (51:15):
It didn't make it.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
It's with the police.
Speaker 4 (51:17):
Yeah, he tells us.
Speaker 3 (51:21):
You know, make sure you've seen some stuff that you
find through.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
It's funny, yeah, but you have visual and I can't.
Speaker 3 (51:26):
Well, it's a bloody show mate.
Speaker 2 (51:28):
It's also a podcast.
Speaker 10 (51:30):
Some people are listening to us and some people aren't
watching our clips, so it has to work visually and
audio wise.
Speaker 3 (51:36):
Okay, but do not get that brief. I can't remember
what I've seen.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
We're not putting any of these
This is an iHeart Radio New Zealand podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Do you think I should do? Give the head transport show?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
I know, I just reckon you should grow a long
ponytail and stay balled up here, stay balled there and
just grow a ponytail like one of those creepy Jasons,
and then get some glasses and then you can talk
more about all the Jason's on the planet.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Would you do transplant?
Speaker 4 (00:29):
I don't need I can go this out of ornanty.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I don't think you could love.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
So do you have to shave your head every day?
Speaker 6 (00:34):
Like you do?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
You use that thing that you sort of hold use.
Speaker 6 (00:39):
Rais my face, But every say, third day or something,
I would be in the shower.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Just do the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I'd quite like to see you with a beer.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, you should do the bed and I'll do the ponytail.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Please make it.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I think it would make That would make me a
bit creepy, a.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Bit Well do we need a ponytail?
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Well, I'll tell you what it's like.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
It's like, you know one of those spiders of the
red back spider. It gives you a warning that it's
a creep doesn't it give your warning it's poison? It's
probably what you need, Snake.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I think I look quite cool with what color?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Would it be? Great?
Speaker 7 (01:11):
Hastory?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Great, it's got to be great, and it's got to
be so thin, and it's got to be you're tired
to get one one one. It's sort of like it's
almost like a rats table, just like you're desperate to grow.
Speaker 8 (01:29):
Mmm.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Welcome to the t B. Welcome to the t a B.
Sports kipper, sports kipper, sports k is. What was the
noise that you just make?
Speaker 6 (01:42):
I just would start with dead airs if we've been
talking on VENs you Yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry, welcome you
know that kind.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Of Yeah, we're we're just straight mates. We're just.
Speaker 9 (01:55):
I thought you were having a moment, like's agreeing with
what one of these guys said, and then you were
supposed to take over try again.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Like a stroke.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
I can't couldn't see you.
Speaker 7 (02:08):
I can just hear you.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
I was just sorry you were I'm sorry about the shaving.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Sorry, I was just doing a TV show.
Speaker 10 (02:16):
Okay, Yeah, have you guys caught up with what's going
on with Rica, Joanni and Johnny Sixton this week? Brilliant
So Johnny Sexton put a book out talked about how
after they lost to the All Blacks in the World
Cup that Rico gave him a bit of a dig
and said, enjoy your retirement, mate, have a good flight home,
(02:37):
you know, and put in this book and then and
sort of said, you know, the All Blacks so so,
you know, so much for their humbleness and stuff like that.
And Rico just did a beautiful post where he put
him and Johnny Sixton after the game and just the words,
just the music from Zombie in your head, in your head, brilliant.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
But hold on.
Speaker 6 (02:56):
He said, enjoy your retirement, have a good flight home.
He could have been serious.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah, there's some swear words in the middle, and he
was putting the knife in.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Well I think it's good. I think like, like good
retire Yeah. Well they've given it to us, you know,
And it.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Just sounds a bit but you know, yeah, I told us, Yeah,
just chill mate, you know, it's just that's what happens. Yeah,
you lose Pisces, you're off and you're going to get
given him a stick.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Yeah, but it's the media running with it again, isn't it.
Speaker 10 (03:24):
But I just love the fact that he's trying to
sell I just love the fact that Rico laughed at
it and just had a dig back, you know, instead
of just sort of going, you know, oh yeah, sorry,
you know, I like that.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Surely was a few years under your belt. You think
look at things differently as well. You don't take things
quite as seriously as you do on the moment of I.
Speaker 10 (03:43):
Don't know, I mean, Zinny and Maca are still wanting
each other up about what the colin what was that
Colin Hawk ninety three or something like.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
That, any try ninety five? Yeahs of CC.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah, so yeah, people.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Say, now, no, it's not just checking.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
People don't stop good.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
And Colin Hawk lived out of christ Church and apparently
people knew where he lived. Never one or two things
deposited in his letterbox. And there's a sort of things
that you might not want body of function, bodily.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Might involve you. And also I want me sad news
that we've lost our navy. Obviously the whole thing went down.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
Yeah, that's it's not a bad thing when you ships
on fire, though, is it just emerge it that's the
best way to put out. Yeah, yeah, well they've only
got third party.
Speaker 10 (04:37):
Well, the good thing is that the whole idea of
that ship. The whole idea of the mission was to
find the reef. They found it, so they've done a
successful mission.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
It's a bit of a clusterfact.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
One hundred million.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, who is.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Shouldn't have said that though, I'm really inappropriate. No, I
don't swear normally.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
The fact that no one died and on got hurt. Seriously,
I think we can yeah joke about it. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Funny, Yeah, it's funny, but your insurance premiums go up
off the back of it.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (05:06):
So our first guess, our first GISs this week is
an Isi cricketer. And we've always enjoyed the Aussie cruiders
on the show. I mean, just look back at the
really interesting man that was Greg Matthews, who came on
with Martin Crowe, the late Great Martin crow as representatives
Advanced Hair Studios, which is obviously a theme of this
(05:28):
week show. And just talking a little bit about the
Ossie sporting mentality.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Who was the filthiest sledger than the team and wild cricket.
It depends on what you mean by filthy big. He
was gifted sledge, but he got.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
A shower with it.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
How things the big war Russ and cover that David
Bern and bad pad. Then he got away with little
five foot two tas Man with the flat trousers right
on your hip.
Speaker 11 (05:56):
Just never stop.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
You never saw his mouth?
Speaker 7 (05:58):
Thompson, how did you find him?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Didn't you love the adjectives? Use? They started with that,
They started with sea and mother got thrown in.
Speaker 7 (06:04):
There and that was about it with.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Tom I never better long.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
You must have been. You gave the terrorists at nudge
at the base and there try and just.
Speaker 7 (06:14):
Get inside their heads.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Jeremy Kenney used to sledge him when he's batting a
big backman, the spaceman.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I used to smash the back man.
Speaker 7 (06:21):
I loved it.
Speaker 12 (06:22):
You know, I just got lucky against him against one
of my only hundreds.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Are so good at sports drinking because you're so cookie.
Speaker 7 (06:31):
I think that's certainly part of it.
Speaker 10 (06:35):
It's interesting that like I think as a sportsman and
I rat with Marty while we're here, Marty sat always
comes back to you.
Speaker 7 (06:41):
You're responsible for your own actions. You've got to believe.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
You've got to be responsible for yourself, and you've got
to believe you're going to win and.
Speaker 7 (06:49):
Faith in then you have brother you're going to be there.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I wanted to say, I told you the school at
the moment, New Zealand. There's no first or second or
third place. It's all people who give him the wall.
Speaker 10 (06:58):
Since you're at school, Mark, Yeah, but I struggle that.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
My kid talk school. He does that if I you know,
if and when I'm not firing bad, Yeah, don't wondering.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
I think Money is trying to say he hears it
in a belief, he just doesn't articulate it every time
he goes out in public.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
It's not cocky.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
It's just not wins twenty.
Speaker 10 (07:18):
Did you say that you were like cocky compared to
the average as trains or you're all.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Pretty sure about it?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
A great, A good.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
How do you know you're in elect for the Aussie champion?
He'll tell you pleas keeping in proportion of the plays
like yeah, beautiful. It was sort of channeling a bit
of like sting idol.
Speaker 10 (07:40):
Yeah when you're mid that's I think just caring on
to join us as the cricket legend from Adam Gilchrist.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Hell a guys team everyone, m what do you.
Speaker 10 (07:55):
Think about you know, from as a New Zealand that
we we see the Aussies as very cocky, you know,
as being a big part.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Of why you're so successful. Is that for you?
Speaker 8 (08:05):
Oh yeah, absolutely, if you're taking us, if the gauge
and the barometer is from one Gregory Matthews, it's going
to be definitely a type of cockiness about us all.
But hey, I think the Billie Idole reference there would
be something that would really that Moe would love more
(08:27):
than more than sting. But no, I think there's a
It's funny. We get introduced to sport as youngsters, like
most sports playing nations do, but right from the beginning
there's this level of you've got to be aggressive, you've
got to be carry yourself with a bit of confidence
and be certainly your body language towards your opponent needs
(08:50):
to be positive and don't get pushed back on.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
So whether that's right or wrong, it's hard.
Speaker 8 (08:55):
It's a stereotypical image and every individual goes about it
their own way, and I think in this day and
age more so certainly the Australian creat team, there's characters
in there that don't want to play to that stereotype.
But it certainly starts at a young age over here
for sure.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I think it's a beautiful thing, you know, Like it
seems to me the difference between Aussi's and Kiwi's is
that Aussi's will win it all cost and they don't
care about the consequences, whereas we prefer to come seeking
to be seen as a good guy. And I reckon
that's a defeatist mentality, and I think it comes from
the fact that, you know, with respect, we chose to
come to New Zealand. They are probably sent there and
(09:33):
you know their bush wants to kill them, and how
bush is our friend. So it's a hardened mentality. I'm
being half serious on this, Yeah, hardened mentality in a
very harsh land, which is going to your crocodiles, bloody,
poisonous everything. You've got to be a tough guy to
make it over there, you know. So the attitude's key
and I love the Aussi attitude.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Is there a question?
Speaker 5 (09:54):
And then all the reception I kind of get is
that the Australians don't really look at us as a
major threat as competition, whereas you look at everyone else
in the world is bigger threats, Like I feel like
We're always going to be the sort of second Cousins
Australia's you have this arrogance which is a confidence. When
I look at the way you go into your sports
games against New Zealand, it really is a you feel
(10:14):
like you're the big brother when you go into a
game against US.
Speaker 8 (10:17):
I think there's a few sports where.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Results may beg to differ on that.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
I think I think there's the results, but it's the
confidence that you take into the game.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
You come across and you're always.
Speaker 8 (10:28):
I mean to the point about being seen as being
good guys. I remember at the International Cricket Awards every
year New Zealand Stephen Fleming having to get up and
receive the trophy for the voted by the fairest as
the fairest team, and he worked out, he stood up
in every year year on year said yeah, confirmation again
(10:48):
that we're the best losers.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
So that probably lightheartedly summed up their approach.
Speaker 8 (10:54):
But yeahs say, there's an air of confidence that's instilled
in you, or a belief that you have to have
that to aspire to get to the top. And I
remember looking at the Ossie Creet teams when we were young.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Chapels Lily Marsh Geez you know, no one.
Speaker 8 (11:14):
Was taking a backward step there, so they were the
idols that we grew up trying to replicate, and we
felt even at under nineteen level. You know, I remember
touring England in austra under nineteen team and we thought, oh,
we going to go over there and roughly these blokes
up not just play and win it, but we've got
to leave a really nasty impression on them because hopefully
we're going to come up against them for the rest
(11:35):
of our careers.
Speaker 10 (11:36):
Yeah, because I mean when you first came into the
Australian cricket team, was it hard as a as a youngster,
as a newcomer. Did they sort of make you earn
your stripes very much?
Speaker 9 (11:47):
So?
Speaker 8 (11:47):
Yeah, at every level, And I think I would say
this surely is reflective across all a majority of sports
around most sport playing nations.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
But it started at a club level.
Speaker 8 (12:00):
And what my recollections of my first sort of years
of first grade saying Sydney or even I was regional,
so playing first grade men's in country New South Wales,
I was fourteen, but I know that you know that
the older adults in the team didn't make it easy
for me.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
To get too carried away.
Speaker 8 (12:19):
They welcomed you in, but they certainly let you know
where you were in the pecking order, and that just
translated all the way through to when you got into
the national team. You knew you were the youngest there
or the newest there, and you had to sort of
earn your stripes. It was just a natural sort of progression.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Really.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
The beauty of cricket, though, is in many ways that
it's a psychological game. I mean, like there's it's a
chess match. Every ball, you know, and the chip that
goes on and the way that you carry yourself as
you say, I mean, it's often the most fulfilling wicket.
You know, I'm going back to playing at school, but
the most fulfilling wicked is when somebody's bloody brilliant. You've
given him so much shit that he gets himself out.
And that's where I think the Aussies were just the best.
(12:59):
They chipping away and you know, being overtly confident but
taking the person, probing and goating. I loved it. I
loved watching you guys do that still do to this day.
Speaker 8 (13:08):
I think it's brilliant to the point where we took
you know, we there's one stage there where Australian create
decided to go away from the mental disintegration as Tuger
used to call it, and just decide other tactics like
you know, scratch the ball and things like that, just
have a bit of fun, just to see how the
world took it.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
And they didn't take it very well. Now I say
that in jest.
Speaker 8 (13:33):
I mean go back to the win it all cost
I'd get that joke in before one of you did.
But yeah, win it all costs, but at what cost?
So hopefully there's a there's a balance there somewhere where
we can rein it in and just go if we
getting outplayed, you getting outplayed, just just just stick to it.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
But the guys you played with, you must have set
around having a few beers and going okay, well, you know,
and naming the other teams that you're going to play
against and how you were going to chip away at them,
and who was going to do what. Surely, yeah, I
mean that would have been a very significant analytical part
of the of the pregameouldn't Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (14:09):
And I remember sitting and talking about different personalities and
different players in the opposition and in team meetings and
just working out you know, who are going to be
more aggressive against. And there was a few guys that
were probably easy targets, but there was a few.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Guys off limits.
Speaker 8 (14:25):
A guy like Brian Mahra from the West Indies at
Steve Wore, you know, I significantly remember him saying don't
go at him because that's a trigger for Brian. He
needed a fight, he needed a scrap to trigger himself
and lo and beholding anti. Brian comes out to bat
and before he's faced the ball, Tugger's run in from
gully and shredded him absolutely tall strips off him and
(14:50):
you know, one hundred off eighty balls later, we're sort
of looking at our captain going what was that about?
But yeah, there was general I mean Sacchein, you could
all the great players, it didn't FaZe him. Your target
Satchin and try to say a few things to him,
but he was just too much in the zone.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Rahul Dravid, you know.
Speaker 8 (15:09):
So there was and there was other guys that you
try to try to bring along the journey in a
verbal sense, but.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Good fun. I think it came out way.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
To who would absolutely one hundred percent capitulate if you
gave them chap who was who was an easy target?
He's not going to say it must be a key.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
We Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Didn't say a lot. Believe it or not, I didn't.
I didn't. If something was on, I didn't walk away.
Speaker 8 (15:41):
But I hated to start it because the moment the
words left my mouth, whether I was batting or keeping,
if I engage and said something, particularly if I initiated it,
I just thought idea, like the reality is next ball
I could have my middle stump knocked out, or next ball,
I could drop this s bloke and he goes on
and gets a hundred. So I felt nervous, but it
(16:02):
was hard for me to get a word him. Some
of the boats, some of my teammates around, they were
already going. But a guy that I love scrapping with
who would be close to home to New Zealand is
Craig McMillan.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Jeseus, it didn't.
Speaker 8 (16:15):
It took nothing, you know, just wink at Macer or
look at him the wrong way and it was on.
And he and I locked horns a few times, but
had a early healthy respect off the field. I love
him now, but Jesus that there were some good scraps there.
And to the point about earlier about whether we thought
New Zealand were a threat or night. We seemed to
(16:36):
get held up a few times by New Zealand, particularly
out here in one summer I think it was two
thousand and one too. It was a drawn series three drawers,
and it just annoyed the life out of us. So
we had to resort to every tactic and a few
of their boys didn't mind coming turning back around and
giving a bit back name.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
It was a good sledge from our team because somebody
we can sort of bear, I can get behind because
we didn't. We didn't see it. I reckon Chris Kens
would have given a bit, wouldn't we.
Speaker 8 (17:05):
Well, Canzy could back it up, and he played in
a couple of series against us, absolutely smoked.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Us, so he could back it up.
Speaker 8 (17:13):
He was aggressive, he had carried himself in a positive manner,
and I mean Flemo was too articulate and too smart
for me and most of.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Our team everything.
Speaker 8 (17:23):
Every time he sort of said something, it took us
a while to sort of recalibrate that what had come
out of his mouth into our language.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
But he's a ripping guy.
Speaker 8 (17:34):
Even a young bas McCullum was confident enough when he
you know, I just overlapped careers with him.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
But you could tell that he had a bit of
get up and go about him.
Speaker 8 (17:44):
And I mean, Bondie Jesus, he did not have to speak.
He was bowling like the wind and basically ripping through us.
Most of the time.
Speaker 10 (17:54):
You played with some absolute legends that for us, you know,
like Shane warn And it's one that immediately comes to mind.
I mean, who are some of your favorite sort of teammates.
Who are some of the guys that you just enjoyed
spending time with?
Speaker 8 (18:08):
Yeah, well, two guys my favorite teammate. This is going
to be not going to drag the mood down. But
unfortunately the two guys on about in a first passed
away a couple of years ago. And we know Andrew
Simon's I think, is anyone's favorite teammate. I think if
you're picking a cricket team of any type, whether a
Test or one days or T twenty, Andrew Simons at
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six is your perfect prototype player and bat's bowls fields
and is just the greatest teammate you could ever want
to have. As far as the word, you know, the
definition of teammate and doing everything unconditionally for each other.
That was Roy and a really funny bastard too. And
then the best thing I ever did in cricket was
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we could keep the shame warning it simply the highlight
of my career was to have the best seat in
the house. Was completely mesmerizing to watch him at the
top of his you know, it's been said before about him,
but it was a it was like a theater. It
was a stage for warning, and he knew he was
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the lead act and loved it, lapped it up and
played the role beautifully. So the effect talk about the
psychology before it is, it was astounding to see just
the presence of warning what that could do psychologically do
other batters and you know, and then he played it up.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
He played to the umpires.
Speaker 8 (19:36):
He timed his run, the perfect one with warning at
the top of his mark, and he'd be ready and
he'd hold and he'd hold. And the batter had been
his stance, waiting, waiting, waiting. There's no reason why Warney
hasn't walked into bowl yet. But the batter would wait, wait, wait,
and then finally pull out of his stance, wondering what's
going on At that point, Warny would start coming into
bowl and then you know, hey, what are you holding
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me up for?
Speaker 1 (19:58):
And like just his by play back and forward.
Speaker 8 (20:02):
But his skill set was also mesmerizing, just phenomenal. To know,
the hardest art in the game that we played, he
was the best exponent of it, I think ever, and
the control he had added to that extraordinary, extraordinarily tough
mindset that was fascinating.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
He's got to be the only guy on the field.
He could pick what he was bowling to us.
Speaker 8 (20:24):
Bose Yeah, well yeah, I could pick Warney well enough.
But there's a difference between picking him and then being
in the right spot to take the ball, because sometimes
you could pick his leggie. You pick one leg and
it spins a few inches and the next one looks identical,
but it spins about two foot, so you had to
be You're still it's just as magic. Just you were
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on every boy, you felt like you're in the game
and you were being entertained. You sort of had the
popcorn sitting beside you and you're in the movie. He's
been entertained to every single delivery. And then at the
end of the over, you know a really tough job
then was to go up and wicket keep six balls
to Glen McGrath who was bowling perfection and you got
warning at first lip telling you about his off field activity,
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so that your entertainment unbelievable.
Speaker 10 (21:10):
Actually you mentioned Andrew Simons before. You know, this show
has been around a long time. And actually the second
story you ever did for us Lee was going to
interview the Ossie cricketers, because you know you're a patriot.
You you put some laxative and some Coca Cola and
then gave it to them to drink. And this is
sort of the catch up.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Look at this.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
How'd you get with that?
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Lee?
Speaker 2 (21:35):
We'll show you play the track now.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
Hey, fellas Arthur Deco, Sports Cafe, Coke, Fisherman Yer teams.
Speaker 7 (21:46):
Going pretty damn well, isn't it?
Speaker 12 (21:48):
We could be doing better, Let's be honest, and we're
working towards being a better team. It's fantastic, isn't it?
Here the tours playing, hasn't it? Good food, great people?
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Yea.
Speaker 12 (21:59):
Put me in a cricket ground. It's a bit different, but.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
Kind of curious about, you know, cricketers and the superstitions
and stuff.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
You guys got.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
Any you know little things, you know, left foot, do
your left laces up first?
Speaker 12 (22:12):
Or you know you were underpants backwards?
Speaker 7 (22:14):
Were my stuff inside out? That's mainly because the seams
don't dig India. That makes a bit of sense to me.
About what other nicknames have got on the team there, pigeon.
Speaker 12 (22:25):
Pigeon McGrath, pigeon lakes, pigeon brain. You've got a good one,
Andrew call him similar to Simsy to me, mate, Yeah,
my one's quite inventive. Yeah, so we're quite smart, very.
Speaker 7 (22:43):
Bing bing Lee brilliant.
Speaker 12 (22:46):
I like Mark wore was one years ago when when
Steven Moore was in the Test team and Mark wasn't,
they called him afghan Afghanistan. They've forgotten more quiet and
now he's called granddad granddad.
Speaker 7 (22:59):
Speaking of you mentioned Brettley back then? How quick is he?
Pretty sharp? Yeah? You reckon t reckon market person in
that track. So you can do anything. I reckon you
could do anything like that.
Speaker 12 (23:13):
You've got a few of those hanging around a lot.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
He's got that. Yeah, can't teach it.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Seriously, I could sit and watch Roy NonStop.
Speaker 8 (23:41):
Anything you did was cool and innocent and naive, but
fun and scoreless.
Speaker 10 (23:47):
I met him in the bar once and I was
with Michael Campbell, the golfer, and and Steve Wore and
Andrew Simon's came up and Michael was having an unbelievable
run at the time, and they they were like, you know, Michael,
you just you know, so impressive and so inspirational with
your golf and everything you do. And they took to
him for about twenty minutes and then they left and
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Michael turned around to me and he said, who are
those guys And I said, there's the war and Andrew Simons,
Oh my god, and he rushed off and got their autographs.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah, he's such a good man. What about What about
your own career?
Speaker 10 (24:22):
I mean you started off in New South Wales but
then moved to really western Australia. They have a bit
of crack of it is that you know, we see
everything you did, but you had to work to get there.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (24:34):
I grew up regional New South Wales, ended up in Sydney,
played ten games I think for New South Wales just
as a batsman. But I wanted to keep and that
pathway was blocked at the time by a bloke called
Phil Emery, so looked around at what the opportunities.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
And where they may lie, and w A was one where.
Speaker 8 (24:56):
Tim Zura was a former national keeper but he was
coming towards the end of his career. So I came
over here thinking maybe a year underneath back as under
study to him, I might get a chance, and as
it turned out, they sacked him straight away and put
me in, a young unknown new South Welshman playing for WA.
So it's not very parochial over here. They absolutely cream
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met the locals, but.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
It was yeah, that was thirty years ago.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
You got you on the front foot as well with
the ball coming through it did.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
It's a wonderful place to play cricket over here in Perth.
Speaker 8 (25:32):
But that opportunity to get samount of spot in in
the Sheffield Hill team and the one day domestic team,
and then all of a sudden I was in the
one day team for the Australian So I think probably
I was a beneficiary of Around nineteen ninety six, at
a World Cup, Sri Lanka decided to throw their wicket
keeper up to the top of the order and say
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basically go out there and slog and they won the
World Cup. So that became the blueprint for every nation
and that gave me an opportunity to get into one
day cricket at the top of the order.
Speaker 6 (26:04):
I was going to say that, what's the lady sept
with you with say keeping and batting. You said you
started as a batter, Mack.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
You've probably answered this as well.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
But watching so many balls from there is that must
help your batting, you know, watching so many bowlers like
so Shane Warne and a different pay we're trying to.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Read the ball. Does that help you as about it?
Speaker 6 (26:22):
Because as you say, it's a relatively new thing having
keepers who are weigh up the order nowadays, it was.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
It always the case.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Good question, Thanks you, good question.
Speaker 8 (26:31):
That a good question, definitely, it's a good point, particularly
in fifty over cricket. Everyone used to say keeping fifty
overs and then going out and open the batting, you're
going to you're going to be naked, you're going to be.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Fatigued and not switched on.
Speaker 8 (26:44):
But I found I had more success with the bat
batting second in one day in the national cricket because
I do think to your point, Lee, you've had a
chance to size up the conditions, You've got the best
view of the house on the pitch. You've seen play,
how it's played over fifty overs and if anything, by
going back out straight away, you're sort of you're.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
In the game. That's what I loved about it.
Speaker 6 (27:08):
And just as a follow up questions that, I mean,
you would have had a lot of questions asked of
you over the last few years about cricket.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Is that one of the better ones.
Speaker 8 (27:18):
It's typically like we do a lot of primary school
visits and we get a lot of questions.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
So it's sort of it's in around that that benchmark.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
But happy to take a roll with it for you,
just to bring it up for speed.
Speaker 10 (27:30):
It's funny when I was looking for some old clips
from shows about cricket and stuff, you know, talking about
that attitude that the Assies have compared to the New Zealanders.
This is a clip of the great Sir Richard Hadley
on the couch. But we're talking about Daniel Victory at
eighteen showing too much emotion and when he was being
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frustrated and letting those frustrations show. So we can just
press play and so we have a look at this
clip which.
Speaker 11 (27:57):
In truested on what we're talking about before about Daniel
for Tori, about what you're saying when he was bowling
and showing signs of frustration. Does who's the guy on
the team that should be telling that guy to not
sort of sort of close up and not show signs
to the batter I like to experience better.
Speaker 7 (28:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (28:16):
I think the type of things you're talking about is
when he get hits for four or there's a drop
catch or a miss field, he sort of goes down
on his launches and his heads into his hands and
he's sort of showing an expression which is understandable and
we're all guilty of that. We all have done that
during our career.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
But is he doing it more often?
Speaker 13 (28:31):
But well, I think so, And I just think that
it gives the batsman, you know, an advantage because if
he hits him for four more than he keeps getting
this reaction and he can really set grind down and
so perps the coach or the captain or other players
need to rity around and say come on, just don't
quite show the sort of emotion and just get on
with the game. But that's going to come with experience.
Because he's only eighteen.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Which he really qualified to be making these.
Speaker 10 (28:55):
Yeah, well, I'm giving you an idea of how long
how long the show has been going, because you know
Daniel Victory was eighteen.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
But that's that's also you know when the All Blacks
win these days, and then he's asked that because when
the All Backs won back then, even if they were
stoked to win, or even if they just won him
last minute with a penalty, you walk off like you
expected to win. You don't chow any emotion at all.
You know, when you scored a try, you didn't celebrate.
Now if they win a game against a team that's
pretty average, they still jump in the air, which is
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I reckon to the point of psychologically owning a space.
Probably not the greatest.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Shout Richard, it was that double danhim because that's outstanding.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Yeah, it wasn't double danim. It was and tucked in
further more tucked than and built it up. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yeah, they like a high panting those days, didn't they.
But I've been guilty of that before.
Speaker 10 (29:42):
Talking about Daniel Victori at eighteen, when he was getting
hit for four, he got really frustrated and you could
see the frustration on.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
His face show showing emotion.
Speaker 10 (29:52):
So as a batsman, when you saw the bowler getting
frustrated when you're hitting him over the boundary?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Did that fuel you?
Speaker 1 (29:58):
It did with Daniel.
Speaker 8 (29:59):
I hit one hundred and six is in Test cricket
and I hit him for seventeen So that was.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Sorry. Am I going back to that arrogant Australian thing.
Speaker 7 (30:11):
We like it.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
We're working beautifully off the.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Question he's now part of the Aussie bowling team.
Speaker 8 (30:18):
I haven't had I haven't batted in cricket competitive cricket
for ten years. But when I see him bowling to
the Australians and the nets went on broadcasting, I actually
go and ask if I can overhit.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
But he's a terrific fella. I love Daniel again.
Speaker 8 (30:37):
I reckon there was a great cricket a great cricket player,
but I think he was an outstanding writer. The late
Peter Roebuck from England who passed away some years ago.
But I thought he wrote beautifully about the game. And
he wrote a line that's saying that cricketers need to
wear a cape of bravado and have to conceal everything
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underneath it. But the outward expression again, body language, whatever
you want, and a lot of international sports people, you
go down that line. And that resonated with me because
I tried to put on this positive sort of exterior,
but I knew the interior the mind that everything at
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various times, not always, but at times you were scrambling,
you were out of control, and you were lacking confidence
or whatever it may be. So we grew up trying
to not let the opponent know how you're going, because
you would. The theory was that that's only going to
help them out. So, yeah, I guess everyone's got their
different techniques.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
If you're going through a poor patch, which you'll do
in cricket, you know, you had a couple of those scores.
It seemed to me that the Aussie attitude was right
down the wicket and have a crack, rather than trying
to sort of technically play yourself back out and you know,
you just be your beck, your eye and give it
a go.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Yeah, spot on.
Speaker 8 (31:56):
And there was certainly for the bulk of the ear
that I was playing in Test Create it seemed when
we lost, we lost badly. We and we we never
seem to play out drawers unless they were weather affected.
But as soon as yeah, we were fortunate we had
a team of six or seven Hall of famers, and
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we're a dominant era. But when a team did get
a hold of us or get under our skin and
get into the contest, it usually deteriorated pretty quick because
you know, maybe it was a little bit of foreign
territory for us. But we and we did address that.
We started to try to say, well, if we're under pressure,
were to find a way to fight out, not not
just swing out of it. So that was probably a
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little achilles Heill for us through that period of time.
Speaker 10 (32:42):
Just about some other sides of your life apart from cricket.
I saw when I was doing some research. That's that's
what you do. Yeah, before you have a guest on,
you do some research.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Guys, I've got a podcast. I need to learn that.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Yeah, I've seen my notes through.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
What's your podcast about cricket?
Speaker 8 (33:01):
I'd say tequila with a loose reference to cricket occasionally.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Well, let's talk about tequila. Then, what's your passion for tequila?
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Just love it.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
I've just always loved it and I love sharing it.
I know everyone a lot of people you mentioned.
Speaker 8 (33:20):
Tequila, and they they've grown and it's that it's that
drink you know from from way back, the bad experience.
But I like reintroducing people to tequila just with a
little little ritual that just don't have to overindulge, don't
have to be shared experience together and away you go.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
We were talking, we were talking about earlier. What's your
favorite tequila?
Speaker 8 (33:41):
Uh, it's it's yet to be released. It will be
in April. It's still coming.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Personal, isn't.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
It's a it's a cracking, cracking drink, first drink of
the day tequila. Not this is the reason to This
is the reason people hate it because you have it
at the end of the night and which is the
lights out, you know, that's that's the memories switch going.
But if you have it, it's the first first couple
of drinks of the day, it's just a beautiful lifter.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
You can go a bottle straight without sculling it and
no hangover.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
I don't think you need to drink the whole bottle
over very.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
What about miss Gale, you do you have a little
sup on the messcale as well?
Speaker 8 (34:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Not not not, as I'm not as passionate about that.
Speaker 8 (34:22):
I've never been a whiskey drinker with all the smoky
heaviness to it, but it's always a bit more cleaner
and lighter the tequila preference. But yeah, I was in
Mexico July this year and in the tequila region and
managed to try a few a few more mezcals over there.
But it's all good stuff.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
We'll walk up into the hills and you'll try some
mushrooms as well. They're pretty.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
An a sermon, we're going to do an asca ceremony
over there.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
We're going to head over and while we're not drinking
at the moment, we're sort of just cleansing for a
few weeks before.
Speaker 6 (34:56):
Sharman Sharmangers And actually a few years ago something called charmaine.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Animal wasn't.
Speaker 10 (35:07):
And the other thing in the research that came out,
I don't know if this is true, but it said
that towards the end of your career you got approached
by the Boston Red Sox.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Yeah, I was offered it.
Speaker 8 (35:18):
There was an Australian coach on their coaching staff and
Izzie Baseball bit of a legend over here, and he
was on their staff and he took some so I
suppose they were tapes, not even CDs in those days.
Back over to Boston after one summer year for chess
or beat or something. But their coaching staff were One,
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they were amazed at our outfielders in cricket catch barehanded.
And two they saw a highlight of me batting, and
their their batting coach afforded me the opportunity to go
and have a hit there and as they say, hit
a few balls and see how it goes.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
So I don't know.
Speaker 8 (36:03):
I don't know that they were out there scouting and
targeted me, and I don't think there was a seven
figure contract on the table, but they afforded me the
opportunity to go and hit a few balls and see
if I wanted to explore the avenues of baseball.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
But how'd you go?
Speaker 1 (36:17):
I declined that I was.
Speaker 8 (36:19):
I only played one game of baseball and that was
at my high school where we were down seven nil
in the second innings and we had to concede under
the mercy rule because the school bus was ready to go.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
We were getting pumped. So it wasn't a great wasn't
a great baseball experience for me?
Speaker 3 (36:35):
No, you actually didn't go and have a bat. You
didn't jump in and have a swing. Because I tried
that in Holland, you know, and I played cracket all
through school and all that sort of stuff. Love cracket,
and I thought this, I really want to see how
this goes, you know, roundball, round bat hopeless. It was
lady difficult. It was really you know, I mean they
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get a little curve going on it and dips and
just you know, you were sort of hoping for a
fast straight ball, you know you might be able to
keep your eye on. It was hard, bloody hard. And
they were Dutch. I mean, they weren't good players by
comparison to.
Speaker 10 (37:12):
Yeah, I was going to stay holand sadly the hot
bed of global baseball, is it? Yeah, well, I mean
start slow, start small.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
So what do you do now?
Speaker 10 (37:23):
I mean obviously you do the commentary. The podcast is
that sort of full time keeping you busy.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Yeah, commentary through the summer in Australia.
Speaker 8 (37:32):
Podcast has just been a bit of fun with Vornie,
Michael Vaughan from from the UK and a couple of
other guys that I literally launched the podcast. It's called
Club Prairie Fire because that drink that little drink ritual,
which is a shot of tequila with three drops of tabasco.
That's called a prairie fire. So great, I think, great,
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great way to start your day.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
And I think I could chuck a bluff oyster into that.
You know, the bluff voices the best in the world.
Chuck one of them on the tequila with the tabasco,
and that that be that. It will be the only
thing I reckon you'd add to it or could and.
Speaker 6 (38:10):
What I would say, reck as well if you don't,
if you chuck some bottels out this way, we can
drink it on the show.
Speaker 8 (38:15):
That's that's exactly what I will be doing, lady in gents.
As I say, a April's out hopeful launch date. So
it's a new one coming hopefully a reintroduction to tequila
for a lot of people. But so that's taken up
as much time as anything at the moment, and Jesus
good fun.
Speaker 10 (38:35):
Actually, I just thought there's I know one New Zealand
cricketer that you could get into his head pretty quickly,
Mark Richardson. But it's the problem with Mark richardsters once
you got in your head, you didn't quite like what
you found in there, and you wanted to get out
of there.
Speaker 8 (38:54):
That the overriding image of rich he was. He was
a tough competitor, he was, you know, very determined character.
But him doing the one hundred meter dash with Darren
Lehman at the Adelaide Oval, that's tough image in the
full likra for both of them.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Tough image to get out of their head. But New
Zealand were victorious that day.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Yeah. The two slightest guys on the team, was it.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Yeah, yeah, two guys in the world. Well you need
to be a like if you're going.
Speaker 8 (39:23):
To run inspired by the Kathy Kathy Freeman two thousand Olympics.
Speaker 14 (39:30):
Yeah, we're going to do this show and like for
next week actually, so that's that's bring the dancing outfits out.
Yeah all right mate, I'll go thank you so much
for your time and yeah, I mean we love the
Aussie cricket attitude, so it's a real pleasure to sort
of get to get to hear about it from someone
that's part of it.
Speaker 8 (39:50):
Awesome, great chat, good fun and I'll definitely you'll be
on the list once we've got some samples.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
I'll get mate.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
The other thing we didn't get to talk to him
about the commentary, but I'll find myself the Christmas has started.
When on Boxing Day you can turn on the Boxing
Day Test and you've got a beautiful, hot summer's day
in Australia and the Aussie commentators are prepping for the
game and they're telling you why the fields set like that,
why there's three slips and you know why he is
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coming around the record or why is coming close to
the worked Just the insight that they give you is unparalleled.
The best commentary team in any sport for me in
the world. I love it.
Speaker 10 (40:34):
A big part of the Aussie cricket mentality is when
they win, they have a victory song and it's something
that's really coming to New Zealand sport. And I saw
this on the on the weekend when Wellington won their
NPC game. They posted this of their victory song and
the changing roses. I thought was pretty awesome.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
A lion, It's great. I love that coming coming into sporotstory.
Speaker 7 (41:52):
Ut.
Speaker 10 (41:53):
Yeah, like having a song and you know what would
be awesome is for that to be shared with their
fans and the fans to start singing it at the
end of games and to really sort of building the
only the only downside with that was the it was
the one of the white guys was on the hitting
the thing and it was just out of rhythm.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Oh yeah, but that that rhythm came back, it actually
worked at the end. I don't know whether that was.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Yeh would you do?
Speaker 15 (42:18):
What do you?
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Yeah? I think now.
Speaker 10 (42:20):
Now, the good news about the TB bets this week
is it was all put on the NRL Grand Final
Melbourne Penrith, and we split into two areas where you
guys all bet on Melbourne publicly, like the whole nation
saw that you put money on Melbourne, right, and I
put some money on Penrith and Penrith won, so I
(42:40):
won some money for us and you lost the money
that you bet.
Speaker 5 (42:42):
But you would have bet like two dollars on your
bet and probably put twenty dollars in our bit.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
You guys have put fifty dollars on Melbourne and I
put ten dollars on that.
Speaker 5 (42:51):
What would you do that on our behalf like gambling school.
I know there's gambling for people that have got a
problem that gambled too much, but they might be school
for people that need to learn how to gamble.
Speaker 4 (43:00):
You might need to go to that school people that
need opposite.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
Yeah, you don't want to quit. You just want to
get good at it, want to be.
Speaker 7 (43:06):
Better at it.
Speaker 5 (43:07):
It's someone that can double down.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
You guys lost and I won. Mm hmmm, so that's
I mate.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
I just what did you want some food?
Speaker 4 (43:18):
We've got food coming.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
It's really thoughtful.
Speaker 5 (43:20):
While those pants are slipping off, I did ask for
some food like five weeks ago.
Speaker 10 (43:25):
It's quite a lot of showing.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
And I just I've just been struggling with the whole.
Speaker 5 (43:33):
Did you get enough for everyone or just for yourself?
Speaker 2 (43:35):
Well, I don't know. You guys were hungry.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
What is that fried chicken?
Speaker 12 (43:38):
No?
Speaker 2 (43:38):
I just got some door dash, which I quite often do,
and I just got some sushi.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
Just you've got enough sushi for one?
Speaker 2 (43:46):
What is an? It's really rude pieces pieces? So I
didn't enough to share.
Speaker 4 (43:54):
Filming at them? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (43:57):
Yeah, it just comes up on the platform. Shove it's
very nice. Mullet in their face.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Just this works really well. You just go on and
happ and then they delivers your food.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
You're not gonna eat that with you but your fingers though,
You're going to use some chop chops.
Speaker 7 (44:12):
With my fingers ready?
Speaker 4 (44:14):
Anyway?
Speaker 3 (44:15):
You know that's culturally approah, is it?
Speaker 6 (44:18):
Yeah, speaking of you know, Asian food, which you know,
sushi pretty much is, isn't it. It's a Japanese thing
in case you know that it's you know, the chopsticks.
I have this this idea. I was using chop sticks
the other day, and you know, you have your miso
soups and there's something not good for that. But why
(44:39):
don't they make the chop sticks hollow in the middle
so you can use it and then you can use
it as a straw and get all the soy sauce
and all the goodness that's left in the bottom, you know,
And what was that would that be culturally? You know
there will be a reason though.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
Don't do that.
Speaker 10 (44:52):
I think the straws will work really well on the
miso soup. Yeah, so you could have the chopsticks for
the sushi and then the miso soup will be covered
with a straw.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
That was what he was saying.
Speaker 4 (45:04):
He used the chopsticks as the straw instead of double
handling it.
Speaker 6 (45:08):
Often if you use a lot of soy sauce, there
could be nice sauce and stuff left over.
Speaker 5 (45:14):
And you know, and the little reservoir in the restaurant
it was just so gross into the world that the
sound fixed milk.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Is anyone want some of the sush that looks good but.
Speaker 5 (45:25):
Don't think food like that finger you finger it.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
It's like it's really.
Speaker 10 (45:30):
Gross because it's hard to eat and present. M you
just go with this clip. This was a surprise to me.
I remember this clip.
Speaker 4 (45:39):
You're putting purely so you can have a feed.
Speaker 7 (45:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Yeah, he's just trying to the hunk of rice on
his nose.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
This is a mensing clip you've got.
Speaker 7 (45:49):
Yeah, you feel hungry.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
It's down here, it's eating clip.
Speaker 4 (45:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (45:53):
Eating.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
This is when we're eating the hot dog.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
This is when we had a juggler on the shape.
Speaker 6 (45:58):
This one for you.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Now it's your turn.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
No no, don't no, don't.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
Littles, got the little sharp things doesn't happen?
Speaker 7 (46:21):
Don't mark.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
You can you can draggle like.
Speaker 4 (46:33):
A chair on your chin as well, can't.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
Yeah, whatever's fat pregnant?
Speaker 2 (46:38):
I'm not quite sure the fat prick you were talking
to on the show.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
What the best juggling thing I ever saw was at
University of was a guy juggling fire and you know,
juggling something on juggling little sticks on fire. But the
sticks were had a little gelatinous sort of starting. Yeah,
and we said, mate, we'll give you twenty bucks if
you eat it. You know, so you sort of pretended
(47:02):
to put the drop went on the chin and it
was still on. Fine, they wiped it off. He went
up like a Roman candle, and I found it pretty
We gave him twenty bucks. Put it that way, you said,
flaming flaming books. He had got a burnt face, but
he would have healed. He would have healed. He they'd
(47:24):
probably learned from that. He wouldn't have done it again.
Speaker 4 (47:27):
No, that's the only way you learned.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
Not men Russia. It's like it's like the people drinking
the flaming temple of the book and the ship face.
They just throw it on their face and.
Speaker 4 (47:36):
It's like it's so sticky. Got to wipe it off,
and the whole going.
Speaker 6 (47:41):
They originally used it being armed before they had no
palm books, tanks.
Speaker 4 (47:44):
They just flaming zam book and then.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
They just threw the same booker out cut that out out.
Speaker 10 (47:49):
Yeahalized we'd cut everything out that we shouldn't.
Speaker 4 (47:55):
Keep the chops, and yeah, that's a good idea, Yeah,
I think, And so through. Hey, by the way, only
one of the chop sets has to be can you
get a free seat with your cash?
Speaker 6 (48:06):
That might make brittle, Yeah, but you know you get
those good chop STIPs which are not wooden but more like.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
Yeah yeah, Ivory Ivory. Yeah yeah, you're not Ivory Ivory.
Speaker 10 (48:20):
You're not really into the You've already revolutionized potato chips
and in CASHU nights. I mean, do you want to
sort of leave me so super imon or No?
Speaker 3 (48:29):
I think you should actually branch out.
Speaker 10 (48:31):
I think it would be Yeah, you weren't so successful
with guitar tuning.
Speaker 4 (48:36):
Oh yeah, that's why not paying the guitar today. Actually
I'll show you. I'll just show you what happened to it.
Technical nightmare.
Speaker 3 (48:47):
You're paying the stringer?
Speaker 4 (48:48):
Yeah, well most of them. I bought this little gadget on.
Speaker 6 (48:58):
So it's like a little guitar thing you tell you
what you do you are instead of if you're not lazy,
you can't be bothered tuning your guitar.
Speaker 4 (49:04):
You step this on there somehow and that'll it'll tell
him out of tune. Then it will actually.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
Round like a like a robot.
Speaker 3 (49:17):
And I don't know what's going on here. But and
it's fun that and snap snapped on the stringth of it. Yeah,
ripped the neck of it because I was Yeah, you're
playing with that late at night.
Speaker 4 (49:27):
I know you would. So if they if they, if
these guys branch into sex toys, they probably want to.
Speaker 3 (49:33):
Take research to take your banjo string right off, wouldn't it.
Speaker 4 (49:37):
Yeah, well that you know, I give you. That's probably
not what you're supposed to be using it for. You
can't use it for a banjo yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:43):
Yeah, the banjo stringer. Yeah, No, wonder people would be
a would be full, wouldn't if.
Speaker 4 (49:49):
They can get it going for you?
Speaker 2 (49:51):
Well, you've already killed it, so.
Speaker 7 (49:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (49:55):
Anyway, I don't want to. It's a great thing, but
it's one of those things you didn't really need, you
know anyway. That's why there's no music.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
Yeah, that's good. Now, just before we go, Atlanta sent
me a video that's inappropriate, and.
Speaker 3 (50:09):
I just liked the flag it no flag, I'm showered.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
No, I'm gonna shower.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
Okay, didn't see any inappropriate ones.
Speaker 15 (50:17):
The young man was sitting at the beach. We noticed
the man jogging near the water. The jogger had a
buff body like Hercules, but his head was the size
of a baseball. The young man was curious and chased
down the jogger. The young man asked, do you mind
if I asked what happened to your head? The jogger
said sure. One day I was jogging down the beach
like I do every day to keep in shape. I
heard a scream in a shallow water. There was a
mermaid tangled up in seaweed and old fishing lines. I
(50:38):
helped her get free, and she was very, very grateful.
She said, thank you, sir for saving me. To show
my gratitude, I will grant you one wish for anything
you want. Being a guy, the first thing you thought
of was how about some love making? The mermaid said, dude,
I'm a mermaid.
Speaker 6 (50:51):
I'm not ill for that.
Speaker 15 (50:52):
The guy said, how about a little head.
Speaker 5 (51:00):
The reason why it was funny is because you didn't
hear that he was jogging on the beach with.
Speaker 7 (51:06):
So good.
Speaker 3 (51:08):
Yeah. It's a little things in life, isn't it. Yeah?
Speaker 2 (51:11):
Sometimes, Yeah, I'd like to finish because I'm straight.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
I've seen you some stuff with mine.
Speaker 4 (51:15):
It didn't make it.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
It's with the police.
Speaker 4 (51:17):
Yeah, he tells us.
Speaker 3 (51:21):
You know, make sure you've seen some stuff that you
find through.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
It's funny, yeah, but you have visual and I can't.
Speaker 3 (51:26):
Well, it's a bloody show mate.
Speaker 2 (51:28):
It's also a podcast.
Speaker 10 (51:30):
Some people are listening to us and some people aren't
watching our clips, so it has to work visually and
audio wise.
Speaker 3 (51:36):
Okay, but do not get that brief. I can't remember
what I've seen.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
We're not putting any of these
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