October 14, 2024 • 9 mins
The White Ferns are refusing to consider net run rate as they eye a spot in the Twenty20 World Cup semifinals overnight.
New Zealand will leapfrog India to qualify for the final four if they beat Pakistan in Dubai, otherwise it'll be decided on net run rate.
Cricket coach and commentator Craig Cumming joined Piney to discuss the team's chances.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Duncie Wildegrave
from News Talks'd be first six.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Of this match, will be the last six of the
contest and it.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Takes New Zealand to a win.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
That was a win over Sri Lanka yesterday, meaning the
White Ferns have passage to the semifinals of the T
twenty Women's Cricket World Cup in their own hands. With
Australia beating India by nine runs this morning, New Zealand
third and paul a. But does I say can leap
frog India if they beat Pakistan and their final group
game tomorrow morning. Do that and they qualify for the
(00:43):
semis alongside Australia from Group A. If Pakistan happened to
beat New Zealand, it'll come down to net run rate.
The game is at three o'clock tomorrow morning in Dubai, Otago.
Sparks coach and cricket commentator Craig coming is with us
to unpack the White Ferns. Chances Craig, before we actually
look specifically at the game against Pakistan, what have you
(01:04):
made in general terms of New Zealand's performance is so
far at this tea twenty Cricket World Cup.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Oh very good.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Well.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I mean, you know, Piney, I think a lot of
people probably didn't give them a chance. And when they
beat India in that first game with it with a
really good performance, that's what they needed to do. First
and foremost was always going to be tough against Australia.
But when you're one on one against those two, as
you've just mentioned, it's now in their hands. And you know,
I watched the ending of the game this morning with
(01:32):
the Australia and you know, good, good on Australia for
actually doing it as a favor. So it's hand. We
played well against Sri Lanka. We did exactly what we
needed to do. So you know Pakistan that they're a
tough team, they're a good team. They beat us back
here in New Zealand before Christmas. But I just think
Pine is a little bit more confidence in this group.
You know, being away beating India was great for Marau
(01:55):
and and you know now they'll they'll really back themselves
and as long as they turn up and play with freedom,
I think they've got a really good chance.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Wellington's Georgia Plumber is in the batting. That's been been
the case for a little while now and starting to
bear a bit of fruit. Fifty in the last game
against Sri Lanka, she's striking at one hundred and twenty
three as well. Only Sophie Devine's striking at a higher
rate than that. Can you see an obvious plan from
Georgia Plumber opening the banning.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Not so much a plan, Piney, I just see more confidence.
You know, she's had a really tough run, really harder
than eighteen year old nineteen year old to find your
feet at the international game. And I dare say if
New Zealand Cricket maybe had their time again, they may
have said it was a weavid early. But what's happening
now is Georgia. Well, one thing she does really well
in some ways it nearly costs her Piney. But also
when she's playing over especially in charge, she's looking to
(02:45):
hit down the ground. So Georgia always looks to hit straight,
sometimes to her detriment because pictures that bounce a bit
more like maybe the basin or Hagley Eden Park. You know,
it's tough to get on top of the bounce, but
over there it's a great way to play. She's looking
to hit down the ground, the ball doesn't stand up
as much and you're using the full face of the bats,
(03:06):
so I think, you know, the conditions are suiting it.
And then yeah, just don't underestimate Poney to get confident
like that score in Australia when she got fifty and
that the last game before they went over. That just
just made it. But probably believe in herself. She works
exceptionally hard. She's a wonderful young lady. So now she's
walking out and actually probably not worried am I going
to fail? She's thinking, right, how can I contribute? And
(03:28):
that's exactly what we want. And you know what it's
doing is it's allowing them to get off the good
starts and then it allows Sophie to come in and
we're nearly on the front foot, which we saw against
India and we saw Sophie finish the game off the
other night.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yeah, and just on her she'd opened the banning what
did for a long time, best part of six years
up until sort of eighteen months ago dropping down to four.
Are you a fan of that?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I think as a cricketer, especially in two twenty, the
high head eposits well, the great thing about opening pinty
you're none for none done. You normally know who the
opening bowls are going to be, so it helps with
your preparation. The ball's going to come on to the
bat better, but it will lay because it's a new ball.
So I just think, you know, from a cricketing point
of view of the T twenty, it's so much easier
(04:12):
at the top of the order because of those factors.
If you're betting four or five, you could he have
to be you know, ten to two or five overs.
You could be eighty for two off ten and you
feel the pressure. I've got to keep this going. I've
got to keep this momentum going, so you set the tide.
I mean walking out with Susie will be nice and
calm between the two of them. So yep, I think
it's suiting Georgia, especially in the T twenty format, and
(04:34):
it just because the freedom to go out and just
play and even if you get fifteen or eight balls,
you've got us off to a start. And so I'm
sure she's enjoying that freedom. You know, one day cricket's
very different and you know, probably the mid order, but
at the moment she's she's made in every post to
winner since big given that opportunity from Australia to now,
which is great.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Absolutely with the ball. We saw Lee casperick for the
first time at the at the tournament in the last
game against your Alanka two for twenty seven off her
four overs. She's been used pretty sparingly in recent times
by New Zealand. Do you think she'll be retained though
for the Pakistan game and both spin alongside Medicare and
Eden Carson.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Now, I don't know. I mean again, I don't know
whether you know Frand Jonas was not picked or whether
there was an injury. I know she wasn't available for
the first game, I think because she split the webbing
in their hands. So I don't know whether that was
a technical play if it was good work, and it
will depend on the conditions. The good thing is Poney,
when you're picking aside, if you've got options, and you know,
(05:31):
if you're picking players that suit against opposition and have
had success against opposition, that's exactly what you want. The
good thing is for New Zealand at the moment they've
got Medicure who's been bowling beautifully, and Eden Carson's found
the form that you know, probably I've been based. I've
been waiting for it, but she's been given opportunities to
play and again throw Eden into that confidence mix. But
(05:51):
what I like about Eden, she's bowling a lot slower.
She went through a phase where she was bowling pretty
flat and fast, and even Frand was. But Paul Wiseman's
over there working with him. And you know, spinners have
got two ways to deceive bad as. It's with turn
and it's with flight, Poney and you know, you know,
looks like they're doing it, you know, doing it well,
and they're going to have to do it well. But
you know, you just you're to see more confidence in
(06:13):
this group and that's exactly what you need as a
cricket so or any sporting side.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Yeah, and it already steamed from that first game, didn't it, Craig.
You know, they got off to that wedding start against
India and all of a sudden things are just a
lot brighter, a lot rosier.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
That's a lot easier when you wouldn't pipe true, not
that I know with the Tiger Raby at the moment
we're out at competition, you're still in it, but Yep,
it's you know, a lot of the problems go away,
a lot of a lot of those conversations that you
have than the change, and when you lose, you're making
things up where you go searching, they just disappear and
everyone feels better about themselves. And you know, being beating India,
(06:47):
I mean that was that was huge and it also
meant that they could relax a little bit against Australia.
Not saying that was true to the poor performance, but
the confidence goes up. And as I like what they
did against your Link, I like the fact that they
played you know at department was still in and I'm
the could have easily taken the game away from them.
But you know, you make good decisions, but also you
(07:09):
just plan a little bit more freedom, the shoulders are
a bit more Alexi Pine and hopefully approach this Pakistan
game is a real opportunity to go out and do
it themselves and play good cricket with freedom as opposed
to thing, oh no, if we don't win this, we
won't go into the semi finals. And I'm sure they're
coaching staff working hard on that. I'm sure the senior
players are working on that. Because you know, what's the
(07:29):
worst that's going to happen, probably will if we tense up,
so you know, play with some freedom and enjoy yourself.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Yeah, indeed, and let's let them. Let's let's go down
that track. They win the game. So they go into
the semifinals off the back of three wins from four matches.
It's almost certainly going to be England who they face.
Of course, they lost all five t twenties to them
just as recently as July. Could they though, with a
bit of extra confidence, turn those tables in a one
off semi final.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Absolutely without a doubt. I mean, you know, those games
mean nothing if they win now we get to that stage.
The one thing that England they are a very very
good cricket side, Piney. They've got some wonderful players. They've
got depth, they've got paced, they've got spin and I've
got batters. But they actually haven't been under a huge
amount of pressure. And we saw, you know in rugby
in the weekend twine of your two top teams getting
(08:13):
nicked out. Weave it different, but you know, sometimes if
a team hasn't been challenged, all of a sudden, you
put them under bit of pressure. In a semi final,
they start thinking, hang on, you know, we'll buy myself.
You know, there's pressure on England and that's the way
you approach it. They do have quality players, you can't
argue with that, but you know, the last game only
the pope and it's got a bat. So there's a
whole big middle order in there who didn't get another opportunity.
(08:35):
So hopefully, you know, you can put them under pressure.
Then they start thinking they're worried, and then the knees
start knocking, and that's when you go in and you
keep that freedom going. So yep, get through today. We've
got to get through that for this, Piney, let's not
get ahead of ourselves. But we'll get through. Soorry Puck's
done and then you know we'll worry about that. But
as I always say, you can't want to dance off, Piney.
You'll know this. You can't want to dance off unless
(08:56):
you're on a dance floor.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Look, if there's a place that I don't belong, it's
the dance floor. But I get the analogy.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, it's all of it is Obsertainly, even if we
were in the semifinals, I haven't got the dancing shoes on.
I'll just tell people what to do, right.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Great, great to chat mate, Thanks as always for your time.
Thanks Bindy, thanks fine that us great coming on cricket
and I've been of dancing as well. Love the analogy
you can't win the dance off unless you're on the
dance floor. I guess that means you can't win the
semi final unless you're in the semifinal.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
For more from sports talk, listen live to News Talks.
It'd be from seven pm weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Duncie Wildegrave
from News Talks'd be first six.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Of this match, will be the last six of the
contest and it.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Takes New Zealand to a win.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
That was a win over Sri Lanka yesterday, meaning the
White Ferns have passage to the semifinals of the T
twenty Women's Cricket World Cup in their own hands. With
Australia beating India by nine runs this morning, New Zealand
third and paul a. But does I say can leap
frog India if they beat Pakistan and their final group
game tomorrow morning. Do that and they qualify for the
(00:43):
semis alongside Australia from Group A. If Pakistan happened to
beat New Zealand, it'll come down to net run rate.
The game is at three o'clock tomorrow morning in Dubai, Otago.
Sparks coach and cricket commentator Craig coming is with us
to unpack the White Ferns. Chances Craig, before we actually
look specifically at the game against Pakistan, what have you
(01:04):
made in general terms of New Zealand's performance is so
far at this tea twenty Cricket World Cup.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Oh very good.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Well.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I mean, you know, Piney, I think a lot of
people probably didn't give them a chance. And when they
beat India in that first game with it with a
really good performance, that's what they needed to do. First
and foremost was always going to be tough against Australia.
But when you're one on one against those two, as
you've just mentioned, it's now in their hands. And you know,
I watched the ending of the game this morning with
(01:32):
the Australia and you know, good, good on Australia for
actually doing it as a favor. So it's hand. We
played well against Sri Lanka. We did exactly what we
needed to do. So you know Pakistan that they're a
tough team, they're a good team. They beat us back
here in New Zealand before Christmas. But I just think
Pine is a little bit more confidence in this group.
You know, being away beating India was great for Marau
(01:55):
and and you know now they'll they'll really back themselves
and as long as they turn up and play with freedom,
I think they've got a really good chance.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Wellington's Georgia Plumber is in the batting. That's been been
the case for a little while now and starting to
bear a bit of fruit. Fifty in the last game
against Sri Lanka, she's striking at one hundred and twenty
three as well. Only Sophie Devine's striking at a higher
rate than that. Can you see an obvious plan from
Georgia Plumber opening the banning.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Not so much a plan, Piney, I just see more confidence.
You know, she's had a really tough run, really harder
than eighteen year old nineteen year old to find your
feet at the international game. And I dare say if
New Zealand Cricket maybe had their time again, they may
have said it was a weavid early. But what's happening
now is Georgia. Well, one thing she does really well
in some ways it nearly costs her Piney. But also
when she's playing over especially in charge, she's looking to
(02:45):
hit down the ground. So Georgia always looks to hit straight,
sometimes to her detriment because pictures that bounce a bit
more like maybe the basin or Hagley Eden Park. You know,
it's tough to get on top of the bounce, but
over there it's a great way to play. She's looking
to hit down the ground, the ball doesn't stand up
as much and you're using the full face of the bats,
(03:06):
so I think, you know, the conditions are suiting it.
And then yeah, just don't underestimate Poney to get confident
like that score in Australia when she got fifty and
that the last game before they went over. That just
just made it. But probably believe in herself. She works
exceptionally hard. She's a wonderful young lady. So now she's
walking out and actually probably not worried am I going
to fail? She's thinking, right, how can I contribute? And
(03:28):
that's exactly what we want. And you know what it's
doing is it's allowing them to get off the good
starts and then it allows Sophie to come in and
we're nearly on the front foot, which we saw against
India and we saw Sophie finish the game off the
other night.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yeah, and just on her she'd opened the banning what
did for a long time, best part of six years
up until sort of eighteen months ago dropping down to four.
Are you a fan of that?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I think as a cricketer, especially in two twenty, the
high head eposits well, the great thing about opening pinty
you're none for none done. You normally know who the
opening bowls are going to be, so it helps with
your preparation. The ball's going to come on to the
bat better, but it will lay because it's a new ball.
So I just think, you know, from a cricketing point
of view of the T twenty, it's so much easier
(04:12):
at the top of the order because of those factors.
If you're betting four or five, you could he have
to be you know, ten to two or five overs.
You could be eighty for two off ten and you
feel the pressure. I've got to keep this going. I've
got to keep this momentum going, so you set the tide.
I mean walking out with Susie will be nice and
calm between the two of them. So yep, I think
it's suiting Georgia, especially in the T twenty format, and
(04:34):
it just because the freedom to go out and just
play and even if you get fifteen or eight balls,
you've got us off to a start. And so I'm
sure she's enjoying that freedom. You know, one day cricket's
very different and you know, probably the mid order, but
at the moment she's she's made in every post to
winner since big given that opportunity from Australia to now,
which is great.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Absolutely with the ball. We saw Lee casperick for the
first time at the at the tournament in the last
game against your Alanka two for twenty seven off her
four overs. She's been used pretty sparingly in recent times
by New Zealand. Do you think she'll be retained though
for the Pakistan game and both spin alongside Medicare and
Eden Carson.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Now, I don't know. I mean again, I don't know
whether you know Frand Jonas was not picked or whether
there was an injury. I know she wasn't available for
the first game, I think because she split the webbing
in their hands. So I don't know whether that was
a technical play if it was good work, and it
will depend on the conditions. The good thing is Poney,
when you're picking aside, if you've got options, and you know,
(05:31):
if you're picking players that suit against opposition and have
had success against opposition, that's exactly what you want. The
good thing is for New Zealand at the moment they've
got Medicure who's been bowling beautifully, and Eden Carson's found
the form that you know, probably I've been based. I've
been waiting for it, but she's been given opportunities to
play and again throw Eden into that confidence mix. But
(05:51):
what I like about Eden, she's bowling a lot slower.
She went through a phase where she was bowling pretty
flat and fast, and even Frand was. But Paul Wiseman's
over there working with him. And you know, spinners have
got two ways to deceive bad as. It's with turn
and it's with flight, Poney and you know, you know,
looks like they're doing it, you know, doing it well,
and they're going to have to do it well. But
you know, you just you're to see more confidence in
(06:13):
this group and that's exactly what you need as a
cricket so or any sporting side.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Yeah, and it already steamed from that first game, didn't it, Craig.
You know, they got off to that wedding start against
India and all of a sudden things are just a
lot brighter, a lot rosier.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
That's a lot easier when you wouldn't pipe true, not
that I know with the Tiger Raby at the moment
we're out at competition, you're still in it, but Yep,
it's you know, a lot of the problems go away,
a lot of a lot of those conversations that you
have than the change, and when you lose, you're making
things up where you go searching, they just disappear and
everyone feels better about themselves. And you know, being beating India,
(06:47):
I mean that was that was huge and it also
meant that they could relax a little bit against Australia.
Not saying that was true to the poor performance, but
the confidence goes up. And as I like what they
did against your Link, I like the fact that they
played you know at department was still in and I'm
the could have easily taken the game away from them.
But you know, you make good decisions, but also you
(07:09):
just plan a little bit more freedom, the shoulders are
a bit more Alexi Pine and hopefully approach this Pakistan
game is a real opportunity to go out and do
it themselves and play good cricket with freedom as opposed
to thing, oh no, if we don't win this, we
won't go into the semi finals. And I'm sure they're
coaching staff working hard on that. I'm sure the senior
players are working on that. Because you know, what's the
(07:29):
worst that's going to happen, probably will if we tense up,
so you know, play with some freedom and enjoy yourself.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Yeah, indeed, and let's let them. Let's let's go down
that track. They win the game. So they go into
the semifinals off the back of three wins from four matches.
It's almost certainly going to be England who they face.
Of course, they lost all five t twenties to them
just as recently as July. Could they though, with a
bit of extra confidence, turn those tables in a one
off semi final.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Absolutely without a doubt. I mean, you know, those games
mean nothing if they win now we get to that stage.
The one thing that England they are a very very
good cricket side, Piney. They've got some wonderful players. They've
got depth, they've got paced, they've got spin and I've
got batters. But they actually haven't been under a huge
amount of pressure. And we saw, you know in rugby
in the weekend twine of your two top teams getting
(08:13):
nicked out. Weave it different, but you know, sometimes if
a team hasn't been challenged, all of a sudden, you
put them under bit of pressure. In a semi final,
they start thinking, hang on, you know, we'll buy myself.
You know, there's pressure on England and that's the way
you approach it. They do have quality players, you can't
argue with that, but you know, the last game only
the pope and it's got a bat. So there's a
whole big middle order in there who didn't get another opportunity.
(08:35):
So hopefully, you know, you can put them under pressure.
Then they start thinking they're worried, and then the knees
start knocking, and that's when you go in and you
keep that freedom going. So yep, get through today. We've
got to get through that for this, Piney, let's not
get ahead of ourselves. But we'll get through. Soorry Puck's
done and then you know we'll worry about that. But
as I always say, you can't want to dance off, Piney.
You'll know this. You can't want to dance off unless
(08:56):
you're on a dance floor.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Look, if there's a place that I don't belong, it's
the dance floor. But I get the analogy.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, it's all of it is Obsertainly, even if we
were in the semifinals, I haven't got the dancing shoes on.
I'll just tell people what to do, right.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Great, great to chat mate, Thanks as always for your time.
Thanks Bindy, thanks fine that us great coming on cricket
and I've been of dancing as well. Love the analogy
you can't win the dance off unless you're on the
dance floor. I guess that means you can't win the
semi final unless you're in the semifinal.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
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on iHeartRadio.
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