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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Darcy Waldergrave
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Oh here today? How are you?
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What a day? What a crazy day in sport. We're
going to carry on the crazy day. It's going to
be a crazy evening and it's going to be a
crazy night. It's going to be a crazy early morning,
crazy late in morning. It's crazy crazy right the way
through to the end of the weekend, which is thankfully
a long one. There was so much to look forward to.
I would attempt to watch everything, but it means I
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wouldn't be able to sleep for seventy two hours. I
don't think that's humanly possible. So I shun. I'm Darcy
Walter Grave. I'll try. Welcome to Sports Talk. Coming up
on tonight's program, we'll touch on the America's Cup with
a former Team New Zealand skipper Dean Barker. It's getting tweeted,
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isn't it? Coming up overnight? A chance maybe for so
Ben Ainsley and his petrol fueled team to climb up
and gain parity with the Royin zell And Yacht Squadron
Entry Tahua. We'll see. We'll talk to Dean Barker about that.
Later on the piece, we'll get things going with Chris
Canns forming black Cap all rounder. I caught up with
(01:36):
Chris this afternoon. I had to make this perfectly clear
because what's happened since players started there's been quite something else.
So i'll just run through that for you shortly before
we're here from Chris, Can's talking about that astonishing first day,
well day too, but the first real day of this
first Test match in India, and we'll take some of
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your calls on the back of that as well. And
based on what we've seen over the first session, will they? Can?
Speaker 4 (02:04):
They?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Should they? Is it possible that the black Caps might
actually win their third only Test match in India? Lockes
and lordie, it might happen. The weather's come to the
party and a couple of bats have come to the
party too. That's our plan for the evening. A eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty free phone number nationwide. Now
(02:25):
what has happened today? This gets interesting. Just gone to
lunch one session, it wasn't looking good as the New
Zealand's lead, which was healthy enough one hundred and eighty
odd got whittled away as Darryl Matchell went for eighteen,
Tom Blunder out for five, Glenn Phillips out the fourteen,
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Matt Henry out for eight. Okay, we're in trouble. And
then suddenly Tim the all round us south. He turns
out with his bat at the grease to join Rutch
and Ravendra. They're put together a huge partnership. And at
lunch the black Caps are three hundred and forty five
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for seven. Rushing Revenger not out one hundred and four
his second test cent. Remember the last one was a huge.
It's a double century and he's been propped up aided
and are bettered by Tim Soudy who's on forty nine
off fifty deliveries. He's even playing sweep shots ladies and gentlemen.
That's extraordinary. The lead now is two hundred and ninety nine.
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This is going to be amazing night. And of course
overnight we've got the women's cricket playing in the semi
final a T twenty World Cup, in the racing coming
out of Barcelona, and I can't cope. This is too much.
It is ten minutes after seven before we go anywhere
any of that. That's Chris Ken's Dean Barker and yourselfs
let's do this today and in sports to date, Liam
(03:57):
Lawson there's another one. It's the Tarmact this weekend as
his Formula One career restarts in Texas. The VCR BY
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CARB Pilot gets in together at the US Grand Prix.
Monday morning practice one though, is tomorrow at six point
thirty a m.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
He's ready, just preparing as much as possible. It's a
difficult time to come into the season obviously, Sprint weekend
this week in New Track, end of the season, so yeah,
just trying to be as ready as possible.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Good and it's not just about Auckland FC this week
in the Pomack and Macodo locals maybe under the spell
of the new A League club, but the Phoenix aren't
going away.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
I'm always confident with whoever I feeld, whoever makes the
match day squad. I know my players give one hundred percent.
They're very committed. You know, it's a group that kept
themselves accountable. So even when the younger ones come in,
you know they're hardly miss a beat.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Cool can't collected. That's Phoenix Geffer Gean Carlo, I'll tell
you I know old school white ferns weapon. Susie Bates
has been impressed with the all round effort of her
team and the women's Teeth twenty World Cup.
Speaker 6 (05:08):
George Wis. The bat has been brilliant.
Speaker 7 (05:10):
Old tournament is a big reason why we've progressed. The
spinners have been outstanding, Sofia's led really well and the
seemas have played their part.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
And they take on the West India tomorrow morning at
three o'clock and the second semi final. South Africa are
waiting after they slapped Australia in the first semi and
Canterbury NBC coach Mardy Burke didn't shy away from social
media criticism during their up and down run to tomorrow's
semi final fixture against Bay of Plenty.
Speaker 7 (05:39):
We shared a little bit of the social media posts
that come out posts at Harbor Games the group. Some
of them were scathing because some of the supporters can
be ruthless. We shared some that come out after the
Testament game and going well, that's just how do we
change the external viamin that's to play better and put
the bitter visions of ourselves out there to see.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Me's back on back tomorrow in the MPC and.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
That's sport today.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Another brilliant catch.
Speaker 8 (06:04):
New Zealand have been sensational the field today and this
is another beauty. In India, I've been bulled out for
forty six Does it matter if you're in the eleven
or no, if you're writing a kiv app Today we
just turned up in tetcatchers.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Indeed, that is all part of it. Things to change.
The first session that today lead now turn of ninety
nine for the black Caps. Richam Avendra scored a ton.
Tim Southey's Borderline's gonna score a half a century there.
At lunch earlier today I caught up with Chris Can's
form of black Caps all around her to talk about
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day two, which is essentially day one for that Test match. Chris,
that was quite a bowling performance out there. Nobody picked it.
What happened?
Speaker 6 (06:49):
Yeah, Hi does? It was crazy right?
Speaker 4 (06:53):
I mean we had a similar thing in ninety nine.
Actually made where there was it was that the wicket
was gluggy like really unusual.
Speaker 6 (07:02):
Flem won the toss and we bowled right.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
I think it was the first time a captain had
won the toss and bowled in India for decades and
so and I don't remember what the score was. It
certainly wasn't forty six, but yeah, we sort of managed
to make inroads. But then the game sort of peed
it out, mate. I mean it just the wicket just
died literally from the second or two and a half days.
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And so the only concern now is that New Zealand
will have to put on, you know, a significant score
which they've laid the foundation for off the back of
some beautiful bowling in helpful conditions.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
And Robert Sharma said he got you know, he got
the toss wrong.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I don't want to detract from what happened, but I am,
after all, part of the bloody media. We can't help ourselves.
India didn't help themselves. There was some superb bowling, without
a doubt, but the Indians to would agree they gifted
some wickets, didn't they, And they'd be absolutely devastated by that.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Well, I think made It's just the modern patter, right,
I mean, you know, we we see the in a
in a bygone era. That movement is something you would
it on the first morning of a test, you know,
in quite a few in quite a few countries, and
so that that requires patience, and it requires good judgment.
Leaving the balls as much of a skill as hitting
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the six mane. So you know that's what was required yesterday.
But you know the pressure that Saudi put on, he didn't.
He was unlucky not to have picked up a few.
But it was tailor made for Henry and Willow will
came on and he is.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
He is.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
We've got a real up and comer there. I mean,
he is going to be a very very good test baller.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I'm on about up and come on. I think he's
already stood up and he's already arrived the way. And
what gets me about him Christ and I think you'd
appreciate this as well. The rage and the anger that
normally surrounds fast battles doesn't exist with this bike. He
turns up balls and pages of delivery, some very aggressive
chin and throat music, and then he turns around and
wanders back to his mark.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
Again. It's quite unusual, but he does.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
He's quite he's sort of quite West Indian and his
builds ation his style because he's the West Indian.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Guys never really used to say a lot either.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
But they were nasty, you know, really nasty, and and
from a bowling perspective, I mean not from a personality perspective.
And so they would you know, they would just they
would bowl heavy, heavy balls, aggressive deliveries, put pressure on you, constantly,
bounces so and a rock seems to be cut from
the same cloth. So he, you know, he just he
just gets on with his bowling and does what he does.
(09:32):
But you know it was laid, it was look, the
foundations were. Look, there's been a lot of talk about
Tim Saldy and you know, I thought he bobbed beautiful yesterday.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
And he was unlucky.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
I mean, he beat the bat numerous occasions and it
just wasn't quite his day. But Matt Henry wicket to
wicket wobbles that seem so you know, he's got no
idea whether it's going to dip in or it's going
to nip away. Right, So he's got no idea when
the batsman's got absolutely no idea.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
So that's what makes him so dangerous, mate.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
In those conditions is that you know, you just do
not know which way the ball is going to seem.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
And also Chris Kenes joins the show. The guy's had
such an astonishing weight behind the likes of sou the involved.
He makes the most of every opportunity he gets without complaint,
and he's done that for the last few test matches
to go, fine, leave me on the sideline, but look
at what I can do. I think this is so
well deserved for a guy that's bited his time so much.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
No, you're right, and he's and he's you know, you
never hear anything complaints from him or mate. He just
gets in and does his work. He's super competitive as well,
you know, you see the way that he just keeps
running in. But he's he's going to be an excellent
leader of the attacks of the attack. So I sort of, look,
we don't want get too far ahead of ourselves here.
We've got this test to play well. But you know,
looking forward over the summer, you sort of see Saudi
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perhaps fasing out and he deserves the series at home,
you know, and it may well be that that time's
in with Jamison potentially coming back. So man, if you've
got Henry leading the attack with o'walke and Jamison, that's
a that's a hell of an attack. So you know,
that's exciting for news on credit fans the captain.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
See how much of our relief and a release was
that for Tim Soudy to have that hand that over
walk away from that and give that to Latham after
what we saw him do yesterday. Is it too easy
to say that's part of the issue here he no
longer has that weighing him down.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
No, I don't think so, mate. I just think he's
you know, what happens to all great players. Look, Tim
Saldi is a great Test cricketer. You just you know,
he's he's bowling in the low one thirties, high one
twenties whereas he used to bowl, you know, mid one thirties.
So just that, just that little reduction and pace, you know,
makes a big difference his you know, he's been unbelievably
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resilient health wise, you know, so he deserves every bit
of credit you know, in the accolades that I'm sure
that he will receive. You know, are we talking about
the end of them? Yeah, we probably are. But you know,
the attack that's coming through now behind him is in
good hands. So you know, it may be, you know,
it may well be that we see the last of
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Tim Sali over the summer and as I said, he
deserves to play here for the summer. But those guys
that are coming through Matt Henry, you know, the way
he's producing things. You know, you've got a good two
to three years at least with that trio throwing another
young Seema as well. Who's out there, and it's you know,
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the bowling stocks are looking very healthy, you know, and
you judge it by how you go in Australia man,
And that's the sort of attack because of the height
and the bounce that they'll get on those wickets that
you can actually begin to put the Aussies underpressure.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Chris Ken's hallmark of the New Zealand team for a
number of years and recently it has wobbled is their
fielding and their ability to take the catches when required.
Now that's been a bit sloppy recently, but they pretty
much short of problem behind the stumps with one. But
they pouched everything, didn't They The catching was superb and
that was a huge, huge ad to them. And do
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you look at Stephen Conway and what heated outrageous?
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Yeah, and you're exactly right, And it's one of those
basic things that I think New Zealand has always pride
to itself on and and if you if you're not
giving the opposition that you know, the opportunity to have
a life. And that was again whenever you know, in
our time through that nineties and two thousands worth adam
PERORI behind the stumps, Stephen Fleming first slip, Nathan Astell
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second slip.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
Those those bolks didn't of anything.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
And that's and that's why we had some success during
that time because the chances that we were making were
being taken.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
And so but that just comes down and I know
that those guys worked unbelievably hard.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
I mean, and that was off the back of Steve
Rickson really pushing the slippers, really making sure he.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
Just drilled them and drilled them and drilled them.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
And if you're able to take those catches, and that's
what Australia does so brilliantly, well is it they just
they just don't let you off the hook. And New
Zealand's capable of it. But it just means that you
you have to do that extra bit of work at training.
You know, that's the only thing you can do.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
It's just hard work, weather pending, it's going to be
very interesting next three days. How in a perfect world
would they go about doing this? They've got a healthy
lead now of one hundred and thirty four. I think
that was off the top of my head. There's still
three days to play. What happens now when you consider it, Well,
hopefully there's no rain.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
Yeah, well, you know what, I wouldn't mind a bit
of rain.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
If we can keep the cutters on intermittently, then that's
not a bad thing because if you're able to eke out,
you know, two or three quick ones from the Indian
side of things, you know, then you know they don't
have a huge amount of depth and so to get
you know, knocking that top order off will be will
be critical. However, New Zealand will be looking just about
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as long as they can. But what I did, like,
go man, is that and Devin Conway I thought sort
of refound I think a little bit of as his
identity and test because he had sort of gone a
little bit defensive. And I think he's a beautiful player,
beautiful touch player, and so he just looked to dominate
a little bit more. But he does it in his
own way, man, He sort of does it with you
know nice he's sort of as a bit of a
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surgeon really and and and so he does it nicely,
but he's he was aggressive nicely and so he sort
of got back in the flow of things.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
And I think that's his game. And uh, and you know,
Revenger is is he's going to be a superstar.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
And you know, whether whether he stays around long enough
to sort of, you know, be the next King Williamson,
that's a big moniker to put on him. But he's
you know, he's showing all the all the hallmarks of
being a superb player. So Mitchell knows how to plan
in that subcontinent. And then you've got Phillips and Blundle
to come. So look New Zealand. I mean they'll be
pushing for four hundred and five hundred here and then
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with a view that it's just about time and they
just have to boil balls and they just have to
keep going and going and putting pressure on them and
you know, and set and set up what would be
a remarkable victory.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
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Speaker 2 (16:11):
It's Chris Kenns spoke to him earlier today before session one,
day three, essentially day two of the tests got underway.
Wasn't wrong, was he with what he said? Looking, you know,
maybe the lead through fifty four hundred. Currently the lead
is well two hundred and ninety nine. At lunch New
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Zealand three hundred and forty five for seven. Who was there,
Rutchian Revenger. It's Chris just mentioned guy that might end
up taking the mantle of came Williamson. Yeah, it's a stretch,
but he just scored himself a ton one hundred and
four hundred and twenty five deliveries, aided in a bit
by Tim Southey not out forty nine off fifty deliveries.
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Three sixes included in that total. And this is great
when you consider that overnight well I lost a handful
of wickets four wickets and those wickets were the likes
of Mitchell and Blunderline, Phillips and Henry. It wasn't looking great,
but these guys have absolutely turned it around. They'll be
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back from their lunch and breaking around about fifteen minutes time.
I endeavor to keep you up to date with that
before the show concludes at eight, and Marcus Slush, I'm
sure on his program will keep you up to date
with the score. What an astonishing day's play? How tasty
is your humble pie? I've had a text in saying
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it's called answering your critics, This Tim Salvey thing, it's
what an answer Ali my humble pie, over and over
again watching him score is fifty after lunch. I couldn't
be happier for the guy up the mighty black Caps.
So there's two ways of look a last night yesterday,
What on earth happened out there? What a stunning day's
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play for a New Zealand. No one saw this coming?
And if you ring up and tell me you did,
you're lying, Well that's a bit of a stretch. Maybe
you're not, maybe you're nostro damist. But that was amazing.
Tell me about that, Tell me about that feeling about
this game out of nowhere when they've turned the tables
the black Caps after a horrible time over in Sri Lanka.
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Why what happened on the BAP Tom Southey played well
without the captains, He grunted. The two seamers were astonishing
Matt Henry. You're not gonna to get rid of a
minute of the team again, are you? And of course
though rourk something else. And then today one hundred and
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four and forty nine night out the pair of them,
Revenger and Tim Southey, is this got victory written all
over it?
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Now?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Come on, black Caps fans, get out there on the
plank of a bit of a bounce around and tell
me has this got win written all over it? How
comfortable are we now? But telling no, Rourke still to bat.
But wow, this is looking fantastic. What on earth could
go wrong? He said, looking to the leaden skies. Oh please, no,
(19:14):
twenty five past seven, your thoughts coming up next to
on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Can we win this?
We can win this company. Tell me about.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
You hear it from the biggest names and sports and
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Speaker 6 (19:38):
It'd be tell me, so, come sound in, the.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Come sound in. The black Caps fans start to celebrate. No,
it's not a done deal, yeas the weather might turn
up on it. For really, what an astonishing day's play
was yesterday and today es sinsely a rearguard action with
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Tim Suvee reprising his debut test. Was it nap when
he scored seventy seven or something? Everyone thought he's an
all round it and he's been carrying that mantel fout
on twenty years started again. Nice Gay a good point producer.
Duster just pointed out he's scored more than India than
the first innings. He wouldn't read about that, would you.
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Tim Salvey and talked to Chris about this. He didn't
believe it. And as an international cricketer and all rounder
of some note, you believe him over me. But I
do think that the fact that the captaincy has gone
and he's lifted it and handed it on to the
capable shoulders of Tom Latham, it's not on the world
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of good. We've seen this in rugby and football and
grect that in every other sport. Some people carry that
captaincy with ease and with comfort of anything. It lifts
them further. It's like the captaincy carries them in their career.
Didn't work for Tim? Why did I have a crack
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squashed his ability to play?
Speaker 6 (21:31):
It?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Lived as a man who used to sit in this seat.
Used to say constantly rent three in his head. So
now it's gone. He got nothing to play for. He's
finishing his career. He will probably last maybe to the
end of this home season. Then that might be it.
And I think we're seeing that that palpable relief in
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the way he's played. He looked great with the boy
yesterday and with the bat he's looking fantastic. I just
want to run you through what happened today and how
bizarre it was. Day three essentially Day two. Get to
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the end of day one, one hundred and eighty for three,
revenger is it on twenty two? Mitchell was on fourteen.
Then the wickets started falling and they kept falling. The
first man to go the new Dave was Daryl Mitchell's
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scores one hundred and ninety three, and then at two
hundred and four Tom blundled the part of the scene.
And then as two hundred and twenty three, Glenn Phillips
got cleaned out. At two hundred and thirty three, it
was man Henry's time to say goodbye. This was not
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looking good. Suddenly, at the end of the first session
three hundred and forty five for seven it's after losing
that seventh pole at turnd In thirty three. It's an amazing,
amazing comeback from these guys, and now the endids are
looking down the barrel. Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty.
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Celebrate with me. Be joyous, Hi John, Hey bad, how
are you doing? I'm doing good. No, we haven't want
anything yet, but I'm allowed to be happy.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
No.
Speaker 9 (23:31):
Look, I agree with you. Look, anything that is good
about new Zea Kraiger, we have to celebrate. However, however, mate,
I need to get something off my chest if you'll
allow me to do it. Yeah, he Look what is
going on? What the hell is going on with this
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reverse sweep?
Speaker 5 (23:53):
You know?
Speaker 9 (23:55):
Look, I'm I'm a great fan of Devin Conway. I
just love the guy. I think he's just total class.
But I think he was out yesterday to a reverse sweep.
And in the Sri Lanka series, reverse sweeps got a
number of people out, and then in the Woman's Cricket,
Oh my god. You know, reverse sweeps have been there undoing.
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You know, it is such a risky maneuver that they
just don't need to do. I just wondered if you
could put a word out to them to just put
it away.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
What I think I listened to be John for thanks.
I do have some of their phone numbers. Like it
may be ringing. I think the medially ason manage to
be a bit feel for mate, You're not ring them
in the middle of light and tell them how to play.
I think that when it comes to percented shots, it
is probably one of the lowest percented shots there are,
especially there in India.
Speaker 9 (24:52):
Absolutely balance in the turn.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Off the pictures, like really that you don't do it there.
I find it odd myself, John, You're not alone.
Speaker 9 (25:01):
I just you know, I think back and because I'm older,
I'm probably older than you.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I don't know, but I'm fifty five on Sunday, John, well.
Speaker 9 (25:13):
Lovely, but lovely I'm sixty two. So do you know anyway,
I think back to, you know, John Wright and Bruce
Sieger and those sort of guys and test cricket their
ability to leave a ball in the concentration. You know,
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sometimes I think we just and test cricket, we just
lack that ability to the ability to leave a ball
and concentrate and they just don't need to play these
risky shots.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
The problem John, as youll know, of being long and
the tooth as you are, and those guys you're mentioning
the rights and the little abundance, they just they sit
on your feet and they never disappeared. But what's the
flavor of cricket in this day and age. I don't
know if the concentration span of any of these guys
as longer than forty overs. When you look at T
twenty and the pre evalence of or even one day
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international cricket, they're just not practiced at that art of
sticking around for that long. They're not gone in them.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
No.
Speaker 9 (26:16):
I agree, man, I absolutely agree. But you know there's
still a sort of market demand for Test cricket. And
but even in the T twenty and fifty over, like
the Woman's Cricket, which I've come to watch a bit
actually because I enjoy it, But you know, even in
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that I just don't think they need to play those shots.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
John, I think it's refreshing that you, as a as
a vintage character are watching Women's cricket and I've been
watching it for twenty five thirty years, and remember watching
it twenty odd five years ago and they won that
World couple was amazing. Afternoons watching, But don't sound so
pained when you say it, John, there's nothing wrong with watching.
(27:03):
Woman's good mate, you're doing well. It's it's a different
style and a different form of the game, but it's
still relevant. Are you gonna get up at three in
the morning to what's the semi final?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Ah?
Speaker 9 (27:14):
Mate, I've pulled up in the middle of the Mighty
Many to talk to you. So I'm going hunting tomorrow.
So no, i won't be getting up at three o'clock.
But I actually love a lot of those women, you know,
some of them are just Gussie a.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Lot, and I'm looking forward to tomorrow morning and the final.
Said they get there, John, thanks very much for joining's member.
Make sure when you take aim it's definitely an animal,
not a human. Look after yourself out there. It is
seven thirty six. This is News Talk ZB on Sports Talk.
Let's run through some text up after that. We welcome
to the show. Dean Barker, a former skipper of our
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team at New Zealand. I'm talking about the thirty seventh
America's Cup in Buffalona, Britannia, up against When he's in
on yacht squadron entry, I've got to get over that find.
We're talking to him about that shortly. Let's just run
through some text. Darcy, you're dead right mate, Thanks Mars
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about what. I don't know, but thank you for that.
It's always good to get a pat on the back, Darcy.
Revenger doesn't do the nervous nineties. This is an incredible
innings and well done Saudi as well. Ben you. The
acceleration of Revenger from the seventies suited Ton was. There's
no fear there, There's no oh, I might not get
this's like that. I'm seeing the ball like I'm pumpkin.
I keep hitting it. And I'm sure he was assisted
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by Saldi in the way he was letting go to Darcy.
I bet Saldi wants to beat Sir Richard Hadley's Wick
Italian Test four hundred and thirty one. Steve, He's got
to get forty something on wickets to get there. I
don't see it. I'm sure I'd like to, but I
don't see it. Darcy bugger me. No, thanks. It's good
to hear Chris Kens. He sounds fit and strong. Go
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Laws and I can't wait. That is from Hamish and
someone's texted Glen Turner. You're talking about bunions, aren't you?
Will not go away?
Speaker 6 (29:13):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Back from nine soon. We're coming up next. We're going
to talk. We're former Team zell And skipper also a
mentor with a lingy in this America's Cup. Dean Barker's
talk some sailing, some foiling up next to her on
News Talk zby. We'll join now on News Talk zb
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by Dean Barker as we talk America's Cup. He's just
come back from Barcelona and his role as a mentor
for a lingy and of course keenly anticipating what's going
to come up overnight when it comes to we're getting
down to crunch time. Ut weing Dean, it was four up,
it's now four to two. She's getting tight there for
Team New zeal Well.
Speaker 6 (30:12):
Yeah, it's amazing what a day can do, isn't it.
Speaker 10 (30:14):
It's I think everyone was probably a little surprised after
the first couple of or the first four races that
that you know, that Team Zealand wouldn't have managed to
get at least one one one on that on the
third day. But it's yeah, it's it's it's really interesting,
you know. I think Team Zerland had two two sort
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of mistakes and the two starts, and that that gave
Anios a lead in both obviously, and they did a
remarkable job, particularly the second one, you know, to get
to four to two to control the race, because it
still looked like Team Zealand had a small advantage and
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performance and they were sort of coming back at them
at the end.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
But it's you, I think it was. You know. What
was what was great to see was it was a.
Speaker 10 (31:04):
From a from an aeo's perspective anyway, is that they
were were to control or hold back probably slightly faster.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Boat laid down Mozire to an agree. Once Team New
Zealand fell off their foils, it was always going to
be very difficult late into the start box and then
it all kind of went pear shape from then. So
it was just an exercise and getting back. But that
second race, Dean and it looked like the New Zealand
crew had the measure of Britannia, but they somehow managed
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to slither away. Great bit of sailing. Fluke what happened there?
Speaker 6 (31:38):
No, certainly it wasn't Fluke.
Speaker 10 (31:39):
It's Andy us have been an incredible story, you know,
the time in Barcelona where you look back at the
preliminary regettors and they were they were just they were average,
you know, nothing, nothing special, and they've just managed to
eke every sort of last bit of performers out of
that boat. And it's the way they turned around. You know,
they obviously dominated us in the semi final and then
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and the Louverton final against Lunar Rossa. They they sailed
an incredibly good event where I don't think too many
people had them coming out on top. And yeah, while
I still believe Team Zealand has the advantage, it's there's
there's a certainly not a lot in it. And you
know they need to be able to sell good races
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to win, and so you know, you let let any
of us guys get in front. They've obviously got a
little bit more confidence back now having taken two races,
so they're going to be you know, they're going to
be hard to beat for sure.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
It's not a it's not a case that is turning up.
Speaker 10 (32:37):
And you know we saw you know, like you say,
the first the first race that they lost teams and
lost they just it all got set up by one
sort of you know one one small era at the beginning,
just being too early for entry and having to try
and slow down, and that sort of compounded into that
prestart and then you know, second one, I think, you know,
just a little misjudgment when they did have a good
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controlling position and then just weren't able to capitalize on it.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
When you look at the relative speeds of the boats,
it looks like that Tahu was better in the light
air britann you is better than the heavy air. And
they talked a lot about the sea state and the
chopping nature. Is it that defined or it was a
little more nuanced and subtle than that Dean.
Speaker 10 (33:23):
The boats are incredibly difficult to sail, and to sail
them consistently well and with the sort of extra yeah,
I guess that. Yeah, you said a nuance of of waves.
It's not just sort of normal waves as you get
on the hurricye golf. It's you've got a leftover swell
at times quite often its offset to the wind direction
and it makes makes foiling really really hard. And it's
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it does seem like there's certainly an element of how
well each team is sort of getting dialed in each day,
how well they're managing their boat and then certainly is
that the slightly different wind speeds it does as you say,
I think it does look like any probably a more
competitive or slightly more competitive when the breeze is up
a little bit and the lighter winds that looked like
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Teams Yella might sort of favored that slightly more. But again,
the differences are so small and to me really in
watching it just seems like Teams Ellen's ability to accelerate
out of the maneuver is probably their biggest strength relative
to anios at the moment, and whether that's something and
he els can improve, you know, they obviously they're out
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there trying to get better every day as we you know,
as they talked about after the racing yesterday. But it's yeah,
we'll see, you know, this weekend is going to be
super interesting.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Den Barker joining the programs. Ben Ainsley at the end
of those two victories said look, we went out there
on the water and on the lay day you Blake
sat back and went through figures and numbers and stats
and he thinks that may have been a mistake. So
the different attitude and paths. I suppose both teams took
in that lay day.
Speaker 10 (35:00):
Thoughts on that it's always an interesting one. You know,
it's sort of a little bit to be made about
San France, go on the fact that Oracle were always
out practicing and things, and you know, we were, you know,
the other sort of frame of mind, you know, this time,
you know, I think it was just more probably it
was an opportunity for being to probably play a few
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little mind games of his own. But really, each each
team has a clear path that they're following. For all
we know, teams may have wanted to spend the day
doing some work on the boat to make sure everything
was in sort of a good state, because you know,
the boats do deteriorate each day, and it's it is
hard for the shore teams even though they are working
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around the clock to keep the boats race ready and
all the preparation that goes into it. So they could
well have been a very good reason they didn't sail.
But yeah, when you're down to sort of maybe three
four days, you know, maximum of possible sailing days left
before the results, sort of knowing you'd probably you know,
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I would imagine now you'd be looking to take every
every last day.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Much between the skills of both crews when it comes
to mattch tracing, because it fancies these new craft as
big as cutting edge as they are when Bush comes
to shove. It's still match racing, isn't it, Dean.
Speaker 10 (36:18):
Well, the boats certainly this time have become a lot
more focused on the match racing and you see just
what the crews are.
Speaker 6 (36:25):
Able to do with the boats.
Speaker 10 (36:26):
They're throwing them around a lot more than what they
were in Auckland, are just more and more comfortable with
the systems and everything else. And as a result of that, Yeah,
the Matt tracing element is definitely starting to push you again,
which is great to see. And you know, we've seen
during the all the way through the Louisverton Challenger series,
you saw a lot of different variations of starting and things,
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and it would seem that Teamy's has done a very
good job of evaluating what they've seen out on the
water and in the different races and I think coming
up with different ways to measure it. And you know,
one of the common trends that we came to expect
with any of us guys as a circle that they
do when they enter from from the poored end and
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that's actually got them in trouble now a couple of
times where Teamy Zellen's had a good sort of counter
to that. And yeah, it's nice to see.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
And so.
Speaker 10 (37:21):
For the next races, it'll be interesting when any of
us enter from the port end just to see what
they are, what their approaches this time, to see whether
they know they've got something up their sleeve that they're
going to try. So, yeah, for sure, it's great to
see that the match racing coming through the But I
think the one thing we are seeing is a bit
of a common trender is it's very very difficult to pass.
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And if a team sort of gets that sort of
eighty to one hundred and fifty meters in front, it's
enough that they can actually start trying to push the
other boat back a little bit, and if they make
some good choices, it does make it very very difficult
for the trailing boat, regardless of how fast they are,
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to be able to pull off a pass.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
And Dean Barker, you've been plenty of regett is, plenty
of America's Cup brigattas have Barcelona coat with this, what
kind of event have they put on? Not only for
the teams for the fans right across the board, how's
it rated for you?
Speaker 10 (38:21):
Barcelona is an amazing city. It's it's it's vibrant and
there's a lot going on. And yeah, the one thing
I would say is that, you know, yes, it's been
a great event, but the event's almost a little bit
lost in Barcelona because it is such a big city
and so you know, yues is a big element there
that are excited about it and things, but there's also
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a lot of it, you know that actually don't don't actually.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
Want the event there. But it's.
Speaker 10 (38:48):
The sailing is pretty cool, it's challenging, like I said before,
the waves and everything else it makes it makes it
quite tough. The a better time of the year in
Barcelona is certainly that June July August period, but because
of the Olympics this year, it's sort of is it
pushed the Cup a little bit later into them, a
little bit more into autumn, and it's and so this
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is sort of creates probably not the ideal conditions, but
you know, still it's a it's the same for everyone,
and it's a good test of the sailing skills. So yeah,
like I've really enjoyed I had a couple of months
here with the Lingy Rebell Racing team and it was Yeah,
it was really cool to to sort of to be
involved and to see, you know, everything that was going
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on there. But yeah, in terms of the Cup events,
you know, it's it's certainly a good one. Never going
to be as good as Auckland, but you know, maybe
maybe I'm a little bit biased for that one.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
That's what I wanted you to say. It needs to
come home, doesn't it, Dean.
Speaker 6 (39:46):
I have to come back here.
Speaker 10 (39:47):
But you know, like it'll be interesting, you know, teams
Ellen get across the line. You know, they've obviously made
comments about how they went to Barcelona so they could
bring it bring it back to New Zealand.
Speaker 6 (39:57):
So let's hope that holds true.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Let's hope so and one last thing, just to wrap
it up nice and quick. Have they got it? Do
you think that Berlin and two Gon his mates can
get this thing done?
Speaker 1 (40:09):
I do.
Speaker 6 (40:10):
They've definitely got the boat.
Speaker 10 (40:12):
They're sailing well. You know, I've been impressed with how
well they they came out of the blocks having not
raced for I'm guessing about a month or you know,
three weeks or something, you know, from when they stopped
sailing in the round robins to fronting up for the
match and now I think they they you know, they
look good. They're probably a little bit rattled after making
quite a few little mistakes in the last two races,
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but you know, I'm sure they they've been in a
lot of pressure situations before and I'm sure they'll respond well.
But yeah, they're going to have to be on their
game because it's you know, they let and he else
get another one or two races back over the next
next day or so. It's going to really keep the
heat on.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
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Cup racing overnight?
Speaker 6 (41:08):
Again?
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Four to the New Zealanders are up over the British.
How long that will last?
Speaker 8 (41:13):
World?
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What a day? What a crazy day in sport. We're
going to carry on the crazy day. It's going to
be a crazy evening and it's going to be a
crazy night. It's going to be a crazy early morning,
crazy late in morning. It's crazy crazy right the way
through to the end of the weekend, which is thankfully
a long one. There was so much to look forward to.
I would attempt to watch everything, but it means I
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wouldn't be able to sleep for seventy two hours. I
don't think that's humanly possible. So I shun. I'm Darcy
Walter Grave. I'll try. Welcome to Sports Talk. Coming up
on tonight's program, we'll touch on the America's Cup with
a former Team New Zealand skipper Dean Barker. It's getting tweeted,
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isn't it? Coming up overnight? A chance maybe for so
Ben Ainsley and his petrol fueled team to climb up
and gain parity with the Royin zell And Yacht Squadron
Entry Tahua. We'll see. We'll talk to Dean Barker about that.
Later on the piece, we'll get things going with Chris
Canns forming black Cap all rounder. I caught up with
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Chris this afternoon. I had to make this perfectly clear
because what's happened since players started there's been quite something else.
So i'll just run through that for you shortly before
we're here from Chris, Can's talking about that astonishing first day,
well day too, but the first real day of this
first Test match in India, and we'll take some of
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your calls on the back of that as well. And
based on what we've seen over the first session, will they? Can?
Speaker 4 (02:04):
They?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Should they? Is it possible that the black Caps might
actually win their third only Test match in India? Lockes
and lordie, it might happen. The weather's come to the
party and a couple of bats have come to the
party too. That's our plan for the evening. A eight
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what has happened today? This gets interesting. Just gone to
lunch one session, it wasn't looking good as the New
Zealand's lead, which was healthy enough one hundred and eighty
odd got whittled away as Darryl Matchell went for eighteen,
Tom Blunder out for five, Glenn Phillips out the fourteen,
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Matt Henry out for eight. Okay, we're in trouble. And
then suddenly Tim the all round us south. He turns
out with his bat at the grease to join Rutch
and Ravendra. They're put together a huge partnership. And at
lunch the black Caps are three hundred and forty five
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for seven. Rushing Revenger not out one hundred and four
his second test cent. Remember the last one was a huge.
It's a double century and he's been propped up aided
and are bettered by Tim Soudy who's on forty nine
off fifty deliveries. He's even playing sweep shots ladies and gentlemen.
That's extraordinary. The lead now is two hundred and ninety nine.
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This is going to be amazing night. And of course
overnight we've got the women's cricket playing in the semi
final a T twenty World Cup, in the racing coming
out of Barcelona, and I can't cope. This is too much.
It is ten minutes after seven before we go anywhere
any of that. That's Chris Ken's Dean Barker and yourselfs
let's do this today and in sports to date, Liam
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Lawson there's another one. It's the Tarmact this weekend as
his Formula One career restarts in Texas. The VCR BY
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CARB Pilot gets in together at the US Grand Prix.
Monday morning practice one though, is tomorrow at six point
thirty a m.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
He's ready, just preparing as much as possible. It's a
difficult time to come into the season obviously, Sprint weekend
this week in New Track, end of the season, so yeah,
just trying to be as ready as possible.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Good and it's not just about Auckland FC this week
in the Pomack and Macodo locals maybe under the spell
of the new A League club, but the Phoenix aren't
going away.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
I'm always confident with whoever I feeld, whoever makes the
match day squad. I know my players give one hundred percent.
They're very committed. You know, it's a group that kept
themselves accountable. So even when the younger ones come in,
you know they're hardly miss a beat.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Cool can't collected. That's Phoenix Geffer Gean Carlo, I'll tell
you I know old school white ferns weapon. Susie Bates
has been impressed with the all round effort of her
team and the women's Teeth twenty World Cup.
Speaker 6 (05:08):
George Wis. The bat has been brilliant.
Speaker 7 (05:10):
Old tournament is a big reason why we've progressed. The
spinners have been outstanding, Sofia's led really well and the
seemas have played their part.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
And they take on the West India tomorrow morning at
three o'clock and the second semi final. South Africa are
waiting after they slapped Australia in the first semi and
Canterbury NBC coach Mardy Burke didn't shy away from social
media criticism during their up and down run to tomorrow's
semi final fixture against Bay of Plenty.
Speaker 7 (05:39):
We shared a little bit of the social media posts
that come out posts at Harbor Games the group. Some
of them were scathing because some of the supporters can
be ruthless. We shared some that come out after the
Testament game and going well, that's just how do we
change the external viamin that's to play better and put
the bitter visions of ourselves out there to see.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Me's back on back tomorrow in the MPC and.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
That's sport today.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Another brilliant catch.
Speaker 8 (06:04):
New Zealand have been sensational the field today and this
is another beauty. In India, I've been bulled out for
forty six Does it matter if you're in the eleven
or no, if you're writing a kiv app Today we
just turned up in tetcatchers.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Indeed, that is all part of it. Things to change.
The first session that today lead now turn of ninety
nine for the black Caps. Richam Avendra scored a ton.
Tim Southey's Borderline's gonna score a half a century there.
At lunch earlier today I caught up with Chris Can's
form of black Caps all around her to talk about
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day two, which is essentially day one for that Test match. Chris,
that was quite a bowling performance out there. Nobody picked it.
What happened?
Speaker 6 (06:49):
Yeah, Hi does? It was crazy right?
Speaker 4 (06:53):
I mean we had a similar thing in ninety nine.
Actually made where there was it was that the wicket
was gluggy like really unusual.
Speaker 6 (07:02):
Flem won the toss and we bowled right.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
I think it was the first time a captain had
won the toss and bowled in India for decades and
so and I don't remember what the score was. It
certainly wasn't forty six, but yeah, we sort of managed
to make inroads. But then the game sort of peed
it out, mate. I mean it just the wicket just
died literally from the second or two and a half days.
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And so the only concern now is that New Zealand
will have to put on, you know, a significant score
which they've laid the foundation for off the back of
some beautiful bowling in helpful conditions.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
And Robert Sharma said he got you know, he got
the toss wrong.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I don't want to detract from what happened, but I am,
after all, part of the bloody media. We can't help ourselves.
India didn't help themselves. There was some superb bowling, without
a doubt, but the Indians to would agree they gifted
some wickets, didn't they, And they'd be absolutely devastated by that.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Well, I think made It's just the modern patter, right,
I mean, you know, we we see the in a
in a bygone era. That movement is something you would
it on the first morning of a test, you know,
in quite a few in quite a few countries, and
so that that requires patience, and it requires good judgment.
Leaving the balls as much of a skill as hitting
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the six mane. So you know that's what was required yesterday.
But you know the pressure that Saudi put on, he didn't.
He was unlucky not to have picked up a few.
But it was tailor made for Henry and Willow will
came on and he is.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
He is.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
We've got a real up and comer there. I mean,
he is going to be a very very good test baller.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I'm on about up and come on. I think he's
already stood up and he's already arrived the way. And
what gets me about him Christ and I think you'd
appreciate this as well. The rage and the anger that
normally surrounds fast battles doesn't exist with this bike. He
turns up balls and pages of delivery, some very aggressive
chin and throat music, and then he turns around and
wanders back to his mark.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
Again. It's quite unusual, but he does.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
He's quite he's sort of quite West Indian and his
builds ation his style because he's the West Indian.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Guys never really used to say a lot either.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
But they were nasty, you know, really nasty, and and
from a bowling perspective, I mean not from a personality perspective.
And so they would you know, they would just they
would bowl heavy, heavy balls, aggressive deliveries, put pressure on you, constantly,
bounces so and a rock seems to be cut from
the same cloth. So he, you know, he just he
just gets on with his bowling and does what he does.
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But you know it was laid, it was look, the
foundations were. Look, there's been a lot of talk about
Tim Saldy and you know, I thought he bobbed beautiful yesterday.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
And he was unlucky.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
I mean, he beat the bat numerous occasions and it
just wasn't quite his day. But Matt Henry wicket to
wicket wobbles that seem so you know, he's got no
idea whether it's going to dip in or it's going
to nip away. Right, So he's got no idea when
the batsman's got absolutely no idea.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
So that's what makes him so dangerous, mate.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
In those conditions is that you know, you just do
not know which way the ball is going to seem.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
And also Chris Kenes joins the show. The guy's had
such an astonishing weight behind the likes of sou the involved.
He makes the most of every opportunity he gets without complaint,
and he's done that for the last few test matches
to go, fine, leave me on the sideline, but look
at what I can do. I think this is so
well deserved for a guy that's bited his time so much.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
No, you're right, and he's and he's you know, you
never hear anything complaints from him or mate. He just
gets in and does his work. He's super competitive as well,
you know, you see the way that he just keeps
running in. But he's he's going to be an excellent
leader of the attacks of the attack. So I sort of, look,
we don't want get too far ahead of ourselves here.
We've got this test to play well. But you know,
looking forward over the summer, you sort of see Saudi
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perhaps fasing out and he deserves the series at home,
you know, and it may well be that that time's
in with Jamison potentially coming back. So man, if you've
got Henry leading the attack with o'walke and Jamison, that's
a that's a hell of an attack. So you know,
that's exciting for news on credit fans the captain.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
See how much of our relief and a release was
that for Tim Soudy to have that hand that over
walk away from that and give that to Latham after
what we saw him do yesterday. Is it too easy
to say that's part of the issue here he no
longer has that weighing him down.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
No, I don't think so, mate. I just think he's
you know, what happens to all great players. Look, Tim
Saldi is a great Test cricketer. You just you know,
he's he's bowling in the low one thirties, high one
twenties whereas he used to bowl, you know, mid one thirties.
So just that, just that little reduction and pace, you know,
makes a big difference his you know, he's been unbelievably
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resilient health wise, you know, so he deserves every bit
of credit you know, in the accolades that I'm sure
that he will receive. You know, are we talking about
the end of them? Yeah, we probably are. But you know,
the attack that's coming through now behind him is in
good hands. So you know, it may be, you know,
it may well be that we see the last of
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Tim Sali over the summer and as I said, he
deserves to play here for the summer. But those guys
that are coming through Matt Henry, you know, the way
he's producing things. You know, you've got a good two
to three years at least with that trio throwing another
young Seema as well. Who's out there, and it's you know,
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the bowling stocks are looking very healthy, you know, and
you judge it by how you go in Australia man,
And that's the sort of attack because of the height
and the bounce that they'll get on those wickets that
you can actually begin to put the Aussies underpressure.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Chris Ken's hallmark of the New Zealand team for a
number of years and recently it has wobbled is their
fielding and their ability to take the catches when required.
Now that's been a bit sloppy recently, but they pretty
much short of problem behind the stumps with one. But
they pouched everything, didn't They The catching was superb and
that was a huge, huge ad to them. And do
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you look at Stephen Conway and what heated outrageous?
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Yeah, and you're exactly right, And it's one of those
basic things that I think New Zealand has always pride
to itself on and and if you if you're not
giving the opposition that you know, the opportunity to have
a life. And that was again whenever you know, in
our time through that nineties and two thousands worth adam
PERORI behind the stumps, Stephen Fleming first slip, Nathan Astell
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second slip.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
Those those bolks didn't of anything.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
And that's and that's why we had some success during
that time because the chances that we were making were
being taken.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
And so but that just comes down and I know
that those guys worked unbelievably hard.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
I mean, and that was off the back of Steve
Rickson really pushing the slippers, really making sure he.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
Just drilled them and drilled them and drilled them.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
And if you're able to take those catches, and that's
what Australia does so brilliantly, well is it they just
they just don't let you off the hook. And New
Zealand's capable of it. But it just means that you
you have to do that extra bit of work at training.
You know, that's the only thing you can do.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
It's just hard work, weather pending, it's going to be
very interesting next three days. How in a perfect world
would they go about doing this? They've got a healthy
lead now of one hundred and thirty four. I think
that was off the top of my head. There's still
three days to play. What happens now when you consider it, Well,
hopefully there's no rain.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
Yeah, well, you know what, I wouldn't mind a bit
of rain.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
If we can keep the cutters on intermittently, then that's
not a bad thing because if you're able to eke out,
you know, two or three quick ones from the Indian
side of things, you know, then you know they don't
have a huge amount of depth and so to get
you know, knocking that top order off will be will
be critical. However, New Zealand will be looking just about
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as long as they can. But what I did, like,
go man, is that and Devin Conway I thought sort
of refound I think a little bit of as his
identity and test because he had sort of gone a
little bit defensive. And I think he's a beautiful player,
beautiful touch player, and so he just looked to dominate
a little bit more. But he does it in his
own way, man, He sort of does it with you
know nice he's sort of as a bit of a
(15:19):
surgeon really and and and so he does it nicely,
but he's he was aggressive nicely and so he sort
of got back in the flow of things.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
And I think that's his game. And uh, and you know,
Revenger is is he's going to be a superstar.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
And you know, whether whether he stays around long enough
to sort of, you know, be the next King Williamson,
that's a big moniker to put on him. But he's
you know, he's showing all the all the hallmarks of
being a superb player. So Mitchell knows how to plan
in that subcontinent. And then you've got Phillips and Blundle
to come. So look New Zealand. I mean they'll be
pushing for four hundred and five hundred here and then
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with a view that it's just about time and they
just have to boil balls and they just have to
keep going and going and putting pressure on them and
you know, and set and set up what would be
a remarkable victory.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Don't argue with the rev Argue with Darcy instead, Sports
Talk with Darcy Wall of Cool oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty on News, Tom Zevy.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
It's Chris Kenns spoke to him earlier today before session one,
day three, essentially day two of the tests got underway.
Wasn't wrong, was he with what he said? Looking, you know,
maybe the lead through fifty four hundred. Currently the lead
is well two hundred and ninety nine. At lunch New
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Zealand three hundred and forty five for seven. Who was there,
Rutchian Revenger. It's Chris just mentioned guy that might end
up taking the mantle of came Williamson. Yeah, it's a stretch,
but he just scored himself a ton one hundred and
four hundred and twenty five deliveries, aided in a bit
by Tim Southey not out forty nine off fifty deliveries.
(16:54):
Three sixes included in that total. And this is great
when you consider that overnight well I lost a handful
of wickets four wickets and those wickets were the likes
of Mitchell and Blunderline, Phillips and Henry. It wasn't looking great,
but these guys have absolutely turned it around. They'll be
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back from their lunch and breaking around about fifteen minutes time.
I endeavor to keep you up to date with that
before the show concludes at eight, and Marcus Slush, I'm
sure on his program will keep you up to date
with the score. What an astonishing day's play? How tasty
is your humble pie? I've had a text in saying
(17:39):
it's called answering your critics, This Tim Salvey thing, it's
what an answer Ali my humble pie, over and over
again watching him score is fifty after lunch. I couldn't
be happier for the guy up the mighty black Caps.
So there's two ways of look a last night yesterday,
What on earth happened out there? What a stunning day's
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play for a New Zealand. No one saw this coming?
And if you ring up and tell me you did,
you're lying, Well that's a bit of a stretch. Maybe
you're not, maybe you're nostro damist. But that was amazing.
Tell me about that, Tell me about that feeling about
this game out of nowhere when they've turned the tables
the black Caps after a horrible time over in Sri Lanka.
(18:22):
Why what happened on the BAP Tom Southey played well
without the captains, He grunted. The two seamers were astonishing
Matt Henry. You're not gonna to get rid of a
minute of the team again, are you? And of course
though rourk something else. And then today one hundred and
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four and forty nine night out the pair of them,
Revenger and Tim Southey, is this got victory written all
over it?
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Now?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Come on, black Caps fans, get out there on the
plank of a bit of a bounce around and tell
me has this got win written all over it? How
comfortable are we now? But telling no, Rourke still to bat.
But wow, this is looking fantastic. What on earth could
go wrong? He said, looking to the leaden skies. Oh please, no,
(19:14):
twenty five past seven, your thoughts coming up next to
on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Can we win this?
We can win this company. Tell me about.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
You hear it from the biggest names and sports and
have your say on eighty Sports Talk on your home
of sports news Talks.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
It'd be tell me, so, come sound in, the.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Come sound in. The black Caps fans start to celebrate. No,
it's not a done deal, yeas the weather might turn
up on it. For really, what an astonishing day's play
was yesterday and today es sinsely a rearguard action with
(20:22):
Tim Suvee reprising his debut test. Was it nap when
he scored seventy seven or something? Everyone thought he's an
all round it and he's been carrying that mantel fout
on twenty years started again. Nice Gay a good point producer.
Duster just pointed out he's scored more than India than
the first innings. He wouldn't read about that, would you.
(20:46):
Tim Salvey and talked to Chris about this. He didn't
believe it. And as an international cricketer and all rounder
of some note, you believe him over me. But I
do think that the fact that the captaincy has gone
and he's lifted it and handed it on to the
capable shoulders of Tom Latham, it's not on the world
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of good. We've seen this in rugby and football and
grect that in every other sport. Some people carry that
captaincy with ease and with comfort of anything. It lifts
them further. It's like the captaincy carries them in their career.
Didn't work for Tim? Why did I have a crack
(21:29):
squashed his ability to play?
Speaker 6 (21:31):
It?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Lived as a man who used to sit in this seat.
Used to say constantly rent three in his head. So
now it's gone. He got nothing to play for. He's
finishing his career. He will probably last maybe to the
end of this home season. Then that might be it.
And I think we're seeing that that palpable relief in
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the way he's played. He looked great with the boy
yesterday and with the bat he's looking fantastic. I just
want to run you through what happened today and how
bizarre it was. Day three essentially Day two. Get to
(22:14):
the end of day one, one hundred and eighty for three,
revenger is it on twenty two? Mitchell was on fourteen.
Then the wickets started falling and they kept falling. The
first man to go the new Dave was Daryl Mitchell's
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scores one hundred and ninety three, and then at two
hundred and four Tom blundled the part of the scene.
And then as two hundred and twenty three, Glenn Phillips
got cleaned out. At two hundred and thirty three, it
was man Henry's time to say goodbye. This was not
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looking good. Suddenly, at the end of the first session
three hundred and forty five for seven it's after losing
that seventh pole at turnd In thirty three. It's an amazing,
amazing comeback from these guys, and now the endids are
looking down the barrel. Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty.
(23:20):
Celebrate with me. Be joyous, Hi John, Hey bad, how
are you doing? I'm doing good. No, we haven't want
anything yet, but I'm allowed to be happy.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
No.
Speaker 9 (23:31):
Look, I agree with you. Look, anything that is good
about new Zea Kraiger, we have to celebrate. However, however, mate,
I need to get something off my chest if you'll
allow me to do it. Yeah, he Look what is
going on? What the hell is going on with this
(23:51):
reverse sweep?
Speaker 5 (23:53):
You know?
Speaker 9 (23:55):
Look, I'm I'm a great fan of Devin Conway. I
just love the guy. I think he's just total class.
But I think he was out yesterday to a reverse sweep.
And in the Sri Lanka series, reverse sweeps got a
number of people out, and then in the Woman's Cricket,
Oh my god. You know, reverse sweeps have been there undoing.
(24:20):
You know, it is such a risky maneuver that they
just don't need to do. I just wondered if you
could put a word out to them to just put
it away.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
What I think I listened to be John for thanks.
I do have some of their phone numbers. Like it
may be ringing. I think the medially ason manage to
be a bit feel for mate, You're not ring them
in the middle of light and tell them how to play.
I think that when it comes to percented shots, it
is probably one of the lowest percented shots there are,
especially there in India.
Speaker 9 (24:52):
Absolutely balance in the turn.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Off the pictures, like really that you don't do it there.
I find it odd myself, John, You're not alone.
Speaker 9 (25:01):
I just you know, I think back and because I'm older,
I'm probably older than you.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I don't know, but I'm fifty five on Sunday, John, well.
Speaker 9 (25:13):
Lovely, but lovely I'm sixty two. So do you know anyway,
I think back to, you know, John Wright and Bruce
Sieger and those sort of guys and test cricket their
ability to leave a ball in the concentration. You know,
(25:35):
sometimes I think we just and test cricket, we just
lack that ability to the ability to leave a ball
and concentrate and they just don't need to play these
risky shots.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
The problem John, as youll know, of being long and
the tooth as you are, and those guys you're mentioning
the rights and the little abundance, they just they sit
on your feet and they never disappeared. But what's the
flavor of cricket in this day and age. I don't
know if the concentration span of any of these guys
as longer than forty overs. When you look at T
twenty and the pre evalence of or even one day
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international cricket, they're just not practiced at that art of
sticking around for that long. They're not gone in them.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
No.
Speaker 9 (26:16):
I agree, man, I absolutely agree. But you know there's
still a sort of market demand for Test cricket. And
but even in the T twenty and fifty over, like
the Woman's Cricket, which I've come to watch a bit
actually because I enjoy it, But you know, even in
(26:38):
that I just don't think they need to play those shots.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
John, I think it's refreshing that you, as a as
a vintage character are watching Women's cricket and I've been
watching it for twenty five thirty years, and remember watching
it twenty odd five years ago and they won that
World couple was amazing. Afternoons watching, But don't sound so
pained when you say it, John, there's nothing wrong with watching.
(27:03):
Woman's good mate, you're doing well. It's it's a different
style and a different form of the game, but it's
still relevant. Are you gonna get up at three in
the morning to what's the semi final?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Ah?
Speaker 9 (27:14):
Mate, I've pulled up in the middle of the Mighty
Many to talk to you. So I'm going hunting tomorrow.
So no, i won't be getting up at three o'clock.
But I actually love a lot of those women, you know,
some of them are just Gussie a.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Lot, and I'm looking forward to tomorrow morning and the final.
Said they get there, John, thanks very much for joining's member.
Make sure when you take aim it's definitely an animal,
not a human. Look after yourself out there. It is
seven thirty six. This is News Talk ZB on Sports Talk.
Let's run through some text up after that. We welcome
to the show. Dean Barker, a former skipper of our
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team at New Zealand. I'm talking about the thirty seventh
America's Cup in Buffalona, Britannia, up against When he's in
on yacht squadron entry, I've got to get over that find.
We're talking to him about that shortly. Let's just run
through some text. Darcy, you're dead right mate, Thanks Mars
(28:16):
about what. I don't know, but thank you for that.
It's always good to get a pat on the back, Darcy.
Revenger doesn't do the nervous nineties. This is an incredible
innings and well done Saudi as well. Ben you. The
acceleration of Revenger from the seventies suited Ton was. There's
no fear there, There's no oh, I might not get
this's like that. I'm seeing the ball like I'm pumpkin.
I keep hitting it. And I'm sure he was assisted
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by Saldi in the way he was letting go to Darcy.
I bet Saldi wants to beat Sir Richard Hadley's Wick
Italian Test four hundred and thirty one. Steve, He's got
to get forty something on wickets to get there. I
don't see it. I'm sure I'd like to, but I
don't see it. Darcy bugger me. No, thanks. It's good
to hear Chris Kens. He sounds fit and strong. Go
(29:02):
Laws and I can't wait. That is from Hamish and
someone's texted Glen Turner. You're talking about bunions, aren't you?
Will not go away?
Speaker 6 (29:13):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Back from nine soon. We're coming up next. We're going
to talk. We're former Team zell And skipper also a
mentor with a lingy in this America's Cup. Dean Barker's
talk some sailing, some foiling up next to her on
News Talk zby. We'll join now on News Talk zb
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by Dean Barker as we talk America's Cup. He's just
come back from Barcelona and his role as a mentor
for a lingy and of course keenly anticipating what's going
to come up overnight when it comes to we're getting
down to crunch time. Ut weing Dean, it was four up,
it's now four to two. She's getting tight there for
Team New zeal Well.
Speaker 6 (30:12):
Yeah, it's amazing what a day can do, isn't it.
Speaker 10 (30:14):
It's I think everyone was probably a little surprised after
the first couple of or the first four races that
that you know, that Team Zealand wouldn't have managed to
get at least one one one on that on the
third day. But it's yeah, it's it's it's really interesting,
you know. I think Team Zerland had two two sort
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of mistakes and the two starts, and that that gave
Anios a lead in both obviously, and they did a
remarkable job, particularly the second one, you know, to get
to four to two to control the race, because it
still looked like Team Zealand had a small advantage and
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performance and they were sort of coming back at them
at the end.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
But it's you, I think it was. You know. What
was what was great to see was it was a.
Speaker 10 (31:04):
From a from an aeo's perspective anyway, is that they
were were to control or hold back probably slightly faster.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Boat laid down Mozire to an agree. Once Team New
Zealand fell off their foils, it was always going to
be very difficult late into the start box and then
it all kind of went pear shape from then. So
it was just an exercise and getting back. But that
second race, Dean and it looked like the New Zealand
crew had the measure of Britannia, but they somehow managed
(31:33):
to slither away. Great bit of sailing. Fluke what happened there?
Speaker 6 (31:38):
No, certainly it wasn't Fluke.
Speaker 10 (31:39):
It's Andy us have been an incredible story, you know,
the time in Barcelona where you look back at the
preliminary regettors and they were they were just they were average,
you know, nothing, nothing special, and they've just managed to
eke every sort of last bit of performers out of
that boat. And it's the way they turned around. You know,
they obviously dominated us in the semi final and then
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and the Louverton final against Lunar Rossa. They they sailed
an incredibly good event where I don't think too many
people had them coming out on top. And yeah, while
I still believe Team Zealand has the advantage, it's there's
there's a certainly not a lot in it. And you
know they need to be able to sell good races
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to win, and so you know, you let let any
of us guys get in front. They've obviously got a
little bit more confidence back now having taken two races,
so they're going to be you know, they're going to
be hard to beat for sure.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
It's not a it's not a case that is turning up.
Speaker 10 (32:37):
And you know we saw you know, like you say,
the first the first race that they lost teams and
lost they just it all got set up by one
sort of you know one one small era at the beginning,
just being too early for entry and having to try
and slow down, and that sort of compounded into that
prestart and then you know, second one, I think, you know,
just a little misjudgment when they did have a good
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controlling position and then just weren't able to capitalize on it.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
When you look at the relative speeds of the boats,
it looks like that Tahu was better in the light
air britann you is better than the heavy air. And
they talked a lot about the sea state and the
chopping nature. Is it that defined or it was a
little more nuanced and subtle than that Dean.
Speaker 10 (33:23):
The boats are incredibly difficult to sail, and to sail
them consistently well and with the sort of extra yeah,
I guess that. Yeah, you said a nuance of of waves.
It's not just sort of normal waves as you get
on the hurricye golf. It's you've got a leftover swell
at times quite often its offset to the wind direction
and it makes makes foiling really really hard. And it's
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it does seem like there's certainly an element of how
well each team is sort of getting dialed in each day,
how well they're managing their boat and then certainly is
that the slightly different wind speeds it does as you say,
I think it does look like any probably a more
competitive or slightly more competitive when the breeze is up
a little bit and the lighter winds that looked like
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Teams Yella might sort of favored that slightly more. But again,
the differences are so small and to me really in
watching it just seems like Teams Ellen's ability to accelerate
out of the maneuver is probably their biggest strength relative
to anios at the moment, and whether that's something and
he els can improve, you know, they obviously they're out
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there trying to get better every day as we you know,
as they talked about after the racing yesterday. But it's yeah,
we'll see, you know, this weekend is going to be
super interesting.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Den Barker joining the programs. Ben Ainsley at the end
of those two victories said look, we went out there
on the water and on the lay day you Blake
sat back and went through figures and numbers and stats
and he thinks that may have been a mistake. So
the different attitude and paths. I suppose both teams took
in that lay day.
Speaker 10 (35:00):
Thoughts on that it's always an interesting one. You know,
it's sort of a little bit to be made about
San France, go on the fact that Oracle were always
out practicing and things, and you know, we were, you know,
the other sort of frame of mind, you know, this time,
you know, I think it was just more probably it
was an opportunity for being to probably play a few
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little mind games of his own. But really, each each
team has a clear path that they're following. For all
we know, teams may have wanted to spend the day
doing some work on the boat to make sure everything
was in sort of a good state, because you know,
the boats do deteriorate each day, and it's it is
hard for the shore teams even though they are working
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around the clock to keep the boats race ready and
all the preparation that goes into it. So they could
well have been a very good reason they didn't sail.
But yeah, when you're down to sort of maybe three
four days, you know, maximum of possible sailing days left
before the results, sort of knowing you'd probably you know,
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I would imagine now you'd be looking to take every
every last day.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Much between the skills of both crews when it comes
to mattch tracing, because it fancies these new craft as
big as cutting edge as they are when Bush comes
to shove. It's still match racing, isn't it, Dean.
Speaker 10 (36:18):
Well, the boats certainly this time have become a lot
more focused on the match racing and you see just
what the crews are.
Speaker 6 (36:25):
Able to do with the boats.
Speaker 10 (36:26):
They're throwing them around a lot more than what they
were in Auckland, are just more and more comfortable with
the systems and everything else. And as a result of that, Yeah,
the Matt tracing element is definitely starting to push you again,
which is great to see. And you know, we've seen
during the all the way through the Louisverton Challenger series,
you saw a lot of different variations of starting and things,
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and it would seem that Teamy's has done a very
good job of evaluating what they've seen out on the
water and in the different races and I think coming
up with different ways to measure it. And you know,
one of the common trends that we came to expect
with any of us guys as a circle that they
do when they enter from from the poored end and
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that's actually got them in trouble now a couple of
times where Teamy Zellen's had a good sort of counter
to that. And yeah, it's nice to see.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
And so.
Speaker 10 (37:21):
For the next races, it'll be interesting when any of
us enter from the port end just to see what
they are, what their approaches this time, to see whether
they know they've got something up their sleeve that they're
going to try. So, yeah, for sure, it's great to
see that the match racing coming through the But I
think the one thing we are seeing is a bit
of a common trender is it's very very difficult to pass.
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And if a team sort of gets that sort of
eighty to one hundred and fifty meters in front, it's
enough that they can actually start trying to push the
other boat back a little bit, and if they make
some good choices, it does make it very very difficult
for the trailing boat, regardless of how fast they are,
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to be able to pull off a pass.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
And Dean Barker, you've been plenty of regett is, plenty
of America's Cup brigattas have Barcelona coat with this, what
kind of event have they put on? Not only for
the teams for the fans right across the board, how's
it rated for you?
Speaker 10 (38:21):
Barcelona is an amazing city. It's it's it's vibrant and
there's a lot going on. And yeah, the one thing
I would say is that, you know, yes, it's been
a great event, but the event's almost a little bit
lost in Barcelona because it is such a big city
and so you know, yues is a big element there
that are excited about it and things, but there's also
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a lot of it, you know that actually don't don't actually.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
Want the event there. But it's.
Speaker 10 (38:48):
The sailing is pretty cool, it's challenging, like I said before,
the waves and everything else it makes it makes it
quite tough. The a better time of the year in
Barcelona is certainly that June July August period, but because
of the Olympics this year, it's sort of is it
pushed the Cup a little bit later into them, a
little bit more into autumn, and it's and so this
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is sort of creates probably not the ideal conditions, but
you know, still it's a it's the same for everyone,
and it's a good test of the sailing skills. So yeah,
like I've really enjoyed I had a couple of months
here with the Lingy Rebell Racing team and it was Yeah,
it was really cool to to sort of to be
involved and to see, you know, everything that was going
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on there. But yeah, in terms of the Cup events,
you know, it's it's certainly a good one. Never going
to be as good as Auckland, but you know, maybe
maybe I'm a little bit biased for that one.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
That's what I wanted you to say. It needs to
come home, doesn't it, Dean.
Speaker 6 (39:46):
I have to come back here.
Speaker 10 (39:47):
But you know, like it'll be interesting, you know, teams
Ellen get across the line. You know, they've obviously made
comments about how they went to Barcelona so they could
bring it bring it back to New Zealand.
Speaker 6 (39:57):
So let's hope that holds true.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Let's hope so and one last thing, just to wrap
it up nice and quick. Have they got it? Do
you think that Berlin and two Gon his mates can
get this thing done?
Speaker 1 (40:09):
I do.
Speaker 6 (40:10):
They've definitely got the boat.
Speaker 10 (40:12):
They're sailing well. You know, I've been impressed with how
well they they came out of the blocks having not
raced for I'm guessing about a month or you know,
three weeks or something, you know, from when they stopped
sailing in the round robins to fronting up for the
match and now I think they they you know, they
look good. They're probably a little bit rattled after making
quite a few little mistakes in the last two races,
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but you know, I'm sure they they've been in a
lot of pressure situations before and I'm sure they'll respond well.
But yeah, they're going to have to be on their
game because it's you know, they let and he else
get another one or two races back over the next
next day or so. It's going to really keep the
heat on.
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