March 19, 2025 • 42 mins
D'Arcy Waldegrave returned to wrap another day of sports news! Highlights for tonight include:
NZ Herald Auckland reporter Bernard Orsman on the new proposal for a stadium at Western Springs.
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Newstalk ZB sport reporter Elijah Fa'afiu previews Sam Ruthe's four-minute mile attempt.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Darcy Waldegrave
from News Talk ZEDB.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Good evening, Welcome in sports Talk seven minutes up seven.
It's a Wednesday evening, nineteenth of March twenty twenty five.
My name is Darcy Waldgrave. Thanks for joining myself and
our guests, and there are many of them of an evening.
Right toward the end of the program, will head off
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to Mountain Smart formerly known as Alda Tonga and as
well the English turned up and like basically quarried the
whole hill, so godbt flat and they put a stadium
on it. Anyway, what's happening there. There's an attempt on
the four minute mile and if this bloke gets done,
mister Ruth, he'll be the youngest man in history to
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achieve that. So Elijah will be there. We'll catch up
with him earlier on today. Jason Pine could barely contain
his excitement, I'm sure, as he got to speak with
the All Whites captain and the man who's having a
great deal of fun scoring at will for Nottingham Forest
over in the Epl's name is Chris Wood. He's in
town for the OFC semi final on Friday and the
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final coming up on Monday. Should the All Whites get
through and if they don't, there needs to be an investigation.
So Jason Pine caught up with one of the greatest
football exports we've got. We'll play that interview for you
later on the piece. And shortly but an Allsman joins us.
He's a senior journalist for the New Zealand Herald, who's
right across Auckland affairs. And of course, if there's any
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bigger Auckland affair than how to build a stadium, I
don't know what it is. And this has come across
again and we're looking at again do we actually need it?
There's twelve and a half thousand seats around the perfect size.
How long will this last? Are you bored of this yet?
And does the fact that three billionaires are behind this
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proposal make it a fighter on plea? Because no one's
got any money except them. That's what we're going to
be talking about on the program. But before any of that,
let's do this and in sport today, very soon at
Mountains Smart's young middle distance weapon called sam Ruth will
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attempt to break the four minute mile mark at fifteen.
It will become the youngest ever to achieve the feat,
pacing him as Sam Tanner, who he tied with in
the fifteen hundred meter final at the Nationals earlier this year.
What a race. Find the footage if you can. Tanner
spoke with the current youngest four minute mile conqueror, Jacob Ingebritson,
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and he knocked this off at sixteen.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
How I spoke to Yucker Bingerbertson at one of the
Diamond Leagues and he was saying that he has almost
trained twice a day every day since he's twelve years old.
I know for a fact that Sam's not doing that.
So for him to be as good as not better
than Yakub as phenomenal A fifteen.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
It's underway. Georgia Miller is and to get back into
the filth of fifteen. The seven Star is available for
the Black Ferns at World Cup selection. The former Canterbury
fifteen's rep is one of seven Seven's sisters made themselves
available for Alan Bunting's defending champions. The tournament is set
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to go in England later this year and George's on it.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
There's some high level professionals in that team, with heaps
of knowledge that man, I just love to learn off
and just be a sponge, which I think is really exciting,
like a whole new challenge. So yeah, can't wait for
a mole scrum for dirty work.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Returning White Ferns superstar Sophie Divine us back for the
Australian series after spending time away from the game to
look after her well being. Did she think though her
time was up with the reigning T twenty champion Ferns.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
Completely honest, Yeah, certainly to be able to have to
process through a few of those things. Obviously unfortunately not
getting any younger, so they naturally came into mind. But yeah,
I'm just really excited to be here. This can be
focusing on each day as it comes and just really
enjoying every day with the White fans.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Frankly, I love you in a platonic way, Sophie Devine,
But I'll take umbrage with that comment talking say unfortunately
I'm not getting any younger. Fortunately, I'm not getting any younger.
I was awful. I love maturity, I love getting older.
There's rocks, said the fifty five year old, and he
couldn't help himself, could he. He just couldn't Crusaders coach
(04:33):
Robert Penn's a penny. He started well, right, he started well,
empathizing with the Blues around the loss of some key
players ahead of this weekend's Super Rugby Pacific clash at
Eden Park.
Speaker 7 (04:46):
He started, well, I don't think anyone likes to see
people being dealt a negative hand of any sort. We
are talking about the Blues though, just couldn't help himself.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Good he And that's all right, We're going to talk
about yet another stadium. They're they're everywhere, they reading all
over Auckland, and none of them seem to go to
full term though, do there? Which is the right shame?
That's really all we're after this time around. This information
has been released prematurely around what happens at Western Springs
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once they managed to clear away the speedway.
Speaker 8 (05:23):
If indeed that.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Happens, that's another story. But Western Springs has got a
tres place in the heart of most Aucklands for a
number of different reasons. Three various organizations have come across
the table and said to Auckland City, we'd like to
put something there. There are three of them, and we'll
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talk about those three applications, right here right now as
we go to senior journalist at the New Zealand Herald,
a man who covers things off and has been around
covering these off for a long long time. His name
is Bernard Oorsman. He joins us now, good evening, Bernard,
good evening. Does he interesting? Yet another set of proposals
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coming out for yet another stadium. We've always known that
Western Springs was looking like moving. That's another argument, isn't it.
And we thought that Auckland football we're going to try
and climb into that. It's come out now that that's
one of the applications. There are three put forward for
the future of Western Springs Stadium. There's one from CRS
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Records are privately funder a transformation of that venue to
our premier live entertainment venue and activities with a capacity
of what forty five thousand people. You've got the one
from MWF, which is basically the one that Ali Williams
is promoting, a twelve and a half thousand seat stadium.
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Sports Facilities and Ponsumi Rugby Club are looking to a
venue to enable fifty thousand concert goers. But the big
asterisk here is redeveloping the site with proposal to the
Council for further funding. Out of those three many propositions,
what one do you think the Council would lean toward them?
Speaker 9 (07:12):
I really don't know, Darcy. At this stage, the Council
is taking a mutual position on the three proposals they've
come forward from expressions of interest that were sought last
year to manage Western Springs going forward, and the councilors
will make a decision as to which option they prefer
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in early May.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Which way do counselors tend to lean in decisions like that,
like what are their most relevant concerns, their biggest considerations?
Speaker 9 (07:45):
Well, I think their biggest consideration in this case is
what they think is best for the future of Western Springs.
All three proposals sort of offer different options for the
future of Western Springs, and at the stage I couldn't
tell you which way the councilors are going to to
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lean If there's a majority behind one of these options,
I really don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
When you look at the lack of money that everybody
seems to have in this day and age, is the
fact that there's a couple of billionaires behind one of
these proposals, is that likely to maybe give them an
insideline because it's not going to cost anyone anything.
Speaker 9 (08:29):
Well, that the council's made it, it's very clear that
whoever gets selected to manage Western Springs in the future
can't expect to get any council funding with their proposal.
I guess you've got to say that the proposal put
forward by Ali William Williams and Co. Does have serious
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financial backers. We've got billionaires involved, so perhaps you know
that gives them the inside running.
Speaker 10 (08:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 9 (08:59):
We'll just have to wait and see.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
How long do these decisions normally take. Look, I think
that this ball has been let out of the gate
a little early. I don't know who's responsible for that,
but I've got an idea. One's already been considered. Two
A coming up next week in the fullness of time.
From your knowledge and dealing with counsel, these decisions aren't
made in a hurry. How long do you think before
there is I suppose a blue tech if you will.
Speaker 9 (09:24):
Well, the process is the councilors decide a which one
they prefer in early May, then the issue goes out
for public consultation. Then it will probably come back to
Council for confirmation or otherwise, and then it's a matter
of sort of working through the various resource consent processes.
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One factor at play here is that Ponsonby Rugby Club
has a lease at Western Springs until twenty twenty seven,
and if they were to be unsuccessful and another proposal
was to come forward, they would have to wait until
twenty twenty seven before they could get spades in the ground.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
What about Western Spring Speedway? For as long as I've
been in Auckland, I think over twenty years, this has
got a zombie like state. It returns from the dead.
It always seems to be coming up to the last
dance at Western Springs. It won't go away, So I
suppose they've got to be confident that it will go away.
But we know of recent conversations. Is that Western Springs
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dead in the water as far as you're concerned, Is
this definitely the end? Or they still rise up and
cause a ruckus?
Speaker 9 (10:32):
Well, the last race at Western Springs is on Saturday night,
and I think all the indications are that will be
the end of speedwak of Speedway at Western Springs and
it will move to Wayite Iraka Park next season.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I suppose that's what's written that. Whether it happens, you've
been around long enough. They've got a really good habit
of not releasing, have they. They're pretty good Western springs.
It's starting where they are.
Speaker 9 (10:59):
Well, there's a couple of possibilities there. One is that
the works at Waite Oraka part have to be ready
in time for the start next season. If that doesn't occur,
that could possibly give Speedway another season. There's another possibility.
There's been talk of a judicial review being taken against
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the decision to move Speedway to Whakaraka Park, but that
hasn't been lodged yet. So I'd say at this stage
it looks almost definite that Speedway will will bring down
the curtains, so to speak, on Saturday crying shame.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I love that place, but so be it. You've got
to advance. It's the nature of the human race, always
looking forward. Are the points of influence around here? People
like or can transport for example, EWE involved too. What
are the other big mitigating factors here around getting something
like whatever this is that gets given the tech to
be established.
Speaker 9 (12:01):
Well, I think they really they just have to go
through the normal resource consent process of lodging a consent
that involves talking to various stakeholders, talking to EWI and
so forth. I can't really see any any difficult issues
to overcome. I mean, so long as they sort of
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abide by the conditions that are laid down by the council.
Because the Council will have to issue a lease for
Western Springs, there'll be conditions around that what they can
and can't do. And I imagine if the successful body,
if you like, abides by those conditions, goes through the
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normal resource consent process, then it's all go.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Does Auckland City need a twelve and a half thousand
seat stadium but yet another stadium to add to the
mess of studium We have scattered it well all around
the nine Well.
Speaker 9 (13:01):
One of the ironies of this is that back in
twenty twelve, Auckland Council unveiled a stadium strategy and one
of the guiding reasons for that was they thought that
Auckland had too many stadiums and there should be fewer stadiums.
If say, the Eli Williams proposal goes ahead, well Auckland
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will end up with a new stadium of twelve and
a half thousand. It seems to me to be a
good size. You know, twelve and a half thousand will
sort of suit a number of sporting codes, a number
of franchises, and you know, it could could turn out
to be a huge success.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
It could be nice to have a roof on it.
Or is that asking too much, do you think, Bernie?
Speaker 9 (13:46):
Well, if that is Ali Williams and co. You know
they might have to stretch their wallet a bit further.
And if they want a roof.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Have a roof. I could park his helicopter on it
and just kind of take your cab out to west Mare.
That's Bernard Orsman, Thank you. Here's a senior New Zealander
Herald journalist who covers a lot of Auckland affairs, including
this one. This is fascinating, weird. I've got questions for you,
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questions that I can't answer, although I will attend to
at some stage. At one hundred eighty ten eighty lines
are open. Okay, a few questions out of this. They're
too small. But let's say because the other two propositions,
one of them some CRS Records. It's a live entertainment
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concert and festival venue. The guy behind this is the
guy who's behind the big day out. Bring the big
day out out more over that mate, I'm on, I
want this to happen. So maximum capacity forty five thousand people,
cultural events, community sports. That sounds good to be rugby club.
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They want to extend their occupancy. They're in the twenty
twenty seven. They want about a host fifty thousand capacity concerts,
redevelop the site. Big problem there is the last line
redeveloping the site with proposal to the council for further
fund and the council haven't got any money. I'm going
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to give it to you if they do so, I
don't know if ponsb. I've got an Iceberg's chance in
hell of getting anything through an NWF new co which
is this Ali William Stephen Adams fronted Affair wants this precinct,
as they call it, sport, culture, entertainment, job and a
half feet stadium, twelve and a half thousand seat stadium,
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sports facilities, indoor basketball, paddle courts, artificial training fields, hospitality, concourse.
The list goes on. That's what they want to do.
So there they are. They've all been presentable. One of
those applications The vision has been presented to the councilors
last week. Two of them are presenting next week. So
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what you say, is it too small? Because I think
the favorite in here, especially when it comes to funding it.
I don't know where the funding comes from from CRS record.
They say it's privately funded transformation. But when you standing
there with a couple of billionaires behind you with check books,
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you think, well, it's going to be fine. Sort that
one out. That's got to be favorite. It is another stadium.
So the questions to you that there are a couple
of them, is it actually necessary? Do we need a
twelve and a half thousand seat stadium? It hasn't got
a roof in Auckland City, five k from the center
of the city. Do we really need that? Is it
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really needed? There's got more white elephants all over the show.
It's not Harbor Mount. Smartness goes on, is it too
small at twelve and a half thousand If you're going
to do it twenty five thousand, surely means actually put
stuff in it? I mean, do we need this? Is
it necessary? Do you what will this actually happen? This
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is another pipe dream, isn't it. I've seen too many
of these things to collapse into nothing, to be anything
more than a cynic Twenty four minutes after seven, your thoughts?
Is it too small? Is it necessary? Will it happen?
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of texts on the subject. I'd like to hear your
voice though, I mean, you can't help but being cynical
when you see these things. There we go again. There's
a couple of the reasons behind that. Do you really
think that Western Springs is actually going to be shifted
on in a half life of two hundred and fifty
six thousand years. They not seem to go. I'm I'm
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not crying about that, and we love the place. There's
one thing. The second thing is fighting through the resource
consent required, which Bernard Allsman pointed out before. It's very
difficult task. You've got the E to deal with, obviously,
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the Springs fighting back, You've got Auckland Transport. There are
a number of bodies involved in this that I think
make things very very tough. But plainly, as Bill Fowley,
one of the billionaires behind one of these proposals. It's
as he gets things done, and look, he has got
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things done before and so maybe now he spent a
bit of time. I thought it was going to be
twenty twenty five thousand seats. In my humble opinion, twelve
and a half thousand seats is too small. If you're
going to do it, do it properly. I don't want
fifty thousand seats. That's We've got one of those. It's
called Eden Park. Around the corner, we've got a bigger
they're going to tap a roof on that suite. Twelve
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and a half thousand. Really it's too little. It's a
point of differences. I don't understand. I yeah, what do
you think of that? Our eight hundred and eighty ten eighty?
Oh hey dusk, can you please let us know where
to watch the young Ripper of a crack at the
sub for minute mile? So I can it be live
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streamed on Athletic New Zealand at a Letox New Zealand's
to their YouTube channel. Take have a look at that.
That's forty five minutes. Is mister Ruth trying to break
a record? Why let's get back to the phones. Now
we're joined by Roscot Evenings.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
You yeah, hi there. Look in my opinion, humble opinion.
We've missed a wonderful chance about ten years ago to
have about a fifteen thousand seat stadium, and they could
have put it at Merton Road or Auckland. Tennis could
have sold the land at Stanley Street, even though there
was complications with it, and they could have combined with
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netball to put about a fifteen thousand seat stadium at
the down on Merton Road. They had the land in
those days. They've sold off the land, so the opportunity's gone.
But there was a wonderful opportunity there to have about
a fifteen thousand seat stadium, which would have done a
wonderful job for netball or volleyball or whatever ball you like,
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as well as fifteen thousand.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
It kind of sits in the strange nowhere's in you've
got vector or spark, I don't remember what Telecom covers
it now, which I think you can fit eight twelve
thousand people at a stretch for a big concert, maybe
not quite maybe eleven. So we need another one that's
roughly the same size at.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
Least or fifteen thousand stadium down depending on the size.
But the opportunity was there if people had got the
hit out of the stand.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
The opportunity Ross. The opportunity was when one of the
most magnificent stadiums or venues anyway in Auckland, when that
came up for sale, and that's in a very similar area,
and that of course is Carlow Park. Now, that would
have been stunning and it had enough room to put
something considerably bigger in and it was right by the city.
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But it's full of lost opportunity. Ross, Well, what do
we do now? As any of these.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
The land is totally different value. But the stadium that
they could have put Merton Road, like I say for netball,
and the netball is not far away from Merton Road now,
and they could have done a beautiful indoor stadium and
combined it with the tennis.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Well, I don't think it sits where they could have done.
But they couldn't have played football there.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Oh you don't want to play football. We're talking about
a medium size, small stadium. You're talking about stadium.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
This is a proposition to put a twelve and a
half thousand seed stadium at Western Springs, So where does
that sit? Well, First and foremost, I presume that they
want to stick their AKFC football team in it. And
then there's other facilities surrounding at a sports complex and
it's within five k a town that'd be the drive around.
Speaker 11 (23:54):
It.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Just don't want to go, do they?
Speaker 9 (23:58):
No?
Speaker 5 (23:58):
In my view, the Western Springs should still be for
the motorsports. End the story.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
I think a lot of people agree with you that
one ross. They love it. I'm saying, it's been there
for so long, why does it have to move? And
I like race cars enjoy Western Springs. But things develop,
things move forward, things left, things pick up, things move on.
Just because it's been there for one hundred years, it
means they have to be there for another one hundred years.
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It's not how life works. Things change, and you probably
bored me talking about us. But if things didn't change
and we didn't develop and adjust, we'd still be living
in caves, which for some of you might be fantastic,
but for a lot of us doesn't really cut the mustard.
It's seven to thirty four. A few texts on this
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as well. He does leave the speed by alone. It's
been there are a hundred years. If that was a
bloody building, no one'd be allowed to touch it. It's made
more Auclors happy than any stadium bar Eden Park in
the city. Who cares about Auckland Stadium built or not,
Thank you very much for that person. Outside of the nine.
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I think we kind of have to care as the
nation because even though a lot of people I know
to test Aukland they hate the Jabbers, won't come anywhere
near the place. Most of our population here. It's kind
of like a hub. You kind of got to look
after what goes on, and it's quite key at less
you want to cut the cable and just like float
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to my parma waft and I understand that as well.
Andre writes, long live Western Spring Speedway twelve thousand multi
purpose stadium is just too small. I agree. If you're
on that, how can the council claim to be neutral
after the speedway, debarkle, I've got no idea the springs.
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This is an interesting point. The Spring Speedway was effectively
shut down due to noise. How on earth were any
concert then can be approved? It's the thought, can Mark,
how are.
Speaker 11 (26:00):
You Darcy look the problem with speedways? And you've been
able to conser because it can't move. It's timing because
it happens about twenty two nights a year. They go
to twenty two nights a year. Yeah, yeah, those are
all Saturday nights for majority of them. Is it that
Saturday night?
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Is that six months?
Speaker 11 (26:23):
That's Saturday nights in summer? Sometimes it's Friday and Saturdays
or Saturday and Sundays on your weekend off in the
evening when you're trying to relax and you hear this noise.
I lived in Parmi for a number of years. I
couldn't believe the noise from that speedway on Saturday night,
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going across the entire city. Everybody where did you live Mark,
from Parmis the North?
Speaker 9 (26:52):
No?
Speaker 2 (26:52):
No, No, you couldn't hear from Parmis the North when
you moved up here.
Speaker 12 (26:55):
Oh, when I lived in Auckland, I lived very close.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Were you aware of it before you moved in or
bought there or not?
Speaker 11 (27:04):
Everybody is. But the problem that is speedway make the justification,
but the bottom of they can't face up to. As
I say, is it Saturday nights in the middle of
summer when you trying to buddy relax? That the heat.
You need this noise, this drone, this drone for about
five hours every Saturday night when you're trying to have
your whole It.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Is difficult because it is a built up area. And
I'm but I mean, if we apply that same theory,
does that make it okay for me to go and
hog tie the neighbor with his bloody leaf blow at
the same time.
Speaker 12 (27:35):
The words of them when people go on about concerts
or a concert concert at sixty seven a.
Speaker 11 (27:42):
Year, so you think I can see two hours, that's it.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
It's the time. It's the consistent noise.
Speaker 12 (27:51):
And if it was on a Saturday afternoon when you
could mow your own lawn and drown out your own
noise and it was done and dusted by five thirty, shi,
you go into the evening if you're quiet, barbecue, put
on your Nora Jones, if you want to mallow out.
Speaker 11 (28:05):
To and they'd be popping that. People will be a
lot to deal with it. But it has to be
at night under lights. Yeah, and I go back an
exclude themselves.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Well, you know what, you know, I love motorsport, but
as I said before, you've got to develop and move on.
As the city has grown, as the city has gotten
bigger and bigger and more densely populated, As you pointed out,
the small amount of people that love speedway still have
the right to push their love on everybody else. I mean,
that is another bad question. So that's why they're going
to move into Wai Karaka Park because no one lives
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out there miles away from anyone, and can someone's gonna
ring that from when you hunger and go hold on?
We don't like to noise either. Thank you much for
your call, mate. I wait, one hundred and eighty ten eighty.
If you want to roll on and it is seven
thirty eight, are you going to do it? Aren't you? Look? Yeah,
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I know it's Nora Jones. I know who was talking
about Nora Jones. Think I'm not as stupid as I look.
That's why I'm on radio. It may it was there
a long time before you and your family. If you
don't like it, don't live there. But there is that
like it's become very intensified living in Auckland City. A
lot more people there than what it was back in
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the day. And just because it's been there for a
hundred years. As mean as it is to be there
for another hundred years. Who does it and who does
its freedoms? As it pins? I mean, I like the
place Evening Darcy held Western Springs Colo is an international
sized cricket ground. What would be great, Keith, but no
one wants to pay for it? Right, there's your problem,
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a cloud.
Speaker 8 (29:45):
It's a relaxing no, no, not me, Nora.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
It's twenty away from eight Chris Wood and Jason Pines.
You get it on shortly, it's coming up next on
that sports talk I mean Elijah Feet who joins us
from Mount Smart? Mean your stadium an out of Tonguel
What you're gonna call it to talk about a fifteen
year old running like the wind and circles for a
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mile for four minutes? What sports talk on News talk
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Z the Western Springs and another and a long line
of dramas around Steady Eye and the like in Auckland
City today, Matt, what have you got for us?
Speaker 13 (30:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (30:40):
I was just curious with the different attitudes around the
Western Springs. I must say I was at first when
the first noises were made about about it being a
problem and canning it and kicking it out. You know,
I was fully in the camp of tradition has been
there forever. While from there you'll say homes, you know,
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it's the existing thing. And then when I realized actually
that there is somewhere else for them to go, the
potentially could be better, and I got it, I sort
of came around. I still feel like it shouldn't be
chance forever because there is opportunity to have maybe an
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annual event. There is something that could actually be a
good event. He'll be more excited about, they'll be less
hate about the noise. Because I'm a traditionalist, I think
it'd be a shame, you know, Like you say, like
develop developed. You know, we have to move on, but
at the same time we also need to hang on
to history and tradition and get to retain the aspects
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that make our city. I mean, I'm from Tower and
we you've got speedway here that they're trying to cancel,
but nowhere else to go. But yeah, I know it's
a shame to kill things completely just for the sake
of moving on, and because you've got a bunch of
people winging that moves into an area. And then when ah,
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it's a.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Common argument, isn't it, Matt, And I get that, and
thanks very much for your call. A lot of people
still saying, well, if you didn't know your name, let
you move in there. But I suppose it's a majority
of minority thing about who it benefits greatly living in
the central city. I love Speedway. I'd love to see
it stay, but I can understand how incredibly grating it
would be to a number of people when you say, look,
don't move into the city. You can hear that speedway everywhere.
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It's not a secret squirrel, it really isn't anyway enough already,
Let's let Jason Pine now fill his boots with the
all white captain, mister Chris Wood. Duzzy, Just like I said,
there he is filling his boots with Chris Wood.
Speaker 8 (32:56):
Get a mugs, Christmas Quaker. Back to New Zealand.
Speaker 14 (32:59):
Welcome back to the scene of fifteen and a half
years ago, a game against Bahrain, when in the eighty
third minute you were seeing time to help secure a
one nil win. What do you remember most vividly about
that night?
Speaker 13 (33:10):
Probably the final whistle, when the excitement and everything went,
run the stadium, run the team, and yeah, knowing that
we completed something that was truly historical in New Zealand history.
Speaker 14 (33:19):
Could you ever have imagined that, you know that would
be the springboard for you to go on to achieve
what you have as a professional footballer.
Speaker 13 (33:27):
No, looking back, obviously, I'm very proud of what I've
been able to achieve throughout my career. It was a
great start in my career, been able to go to
a World Cup so early on, and hopefully now the
old age I can go again then if we're lucky enough.
Speaker 14 (33:39):
So you mentioned the World Cup in twenty ten games
against Slovakia, Italy, Paraguay, you came on in all three.
Do you ever think back to that shot against Italy
that just defeated the post?
Speaker 6 (33:50):
Look?
Speaker 13 (33:50):
Yeah, it pops into the memories every so often. It
would have been nice if it trickled on the other side,
but it wasn't meant to be. I think the team
done extremely well that year and obviously three jaws unbeatenside
in the World Cup. It's a pretty proud moment.
Speaker 8 (34:03):
How determined are you to get back there sixteen years on?
Speaker 13 (34:06):
Very determined. It's been under no illusion. I spoke about
this a long a lot of period times in the
other qualifying qualifying campaigns that I want to get back there.
It feels like this team and myself have unfinished business
on the world stage, and that's what we want to do.
Speaker 14 (34:20):
It's a very different qualification path now, of course, two games,
one against Figi here and then potentially a final on
Monday night. How do you make sure that you just
go one game at a time and lead nothing to chance.
Speaker 13 (34:30):
Well, that's all we've got to do. It's what we're
focusing on more week. We're focusing on Fiji and that's
all we can do because you can't think too far ahead.
We're going to have a very tough game here and
we need to make sure we're on our a game
to come out on top. They're going to cause us problems,
but we need to make sure we play our game
to hopefully nulliflay everything else.
Speaker 14 (34:47):
So the team I think are all together now. I
think the last players arrived last night. How do you
spend the next forty eight hours as you prepare for
the game against Fiji.
Speaker 13 (34:55):
A lot about it is connecting off the pitch, getting
back to what we used to and then adding a
few implements and training this afternoon tomorrow that we can
find tune ready for Friday night.
Speaker 8 (35:07):
You've always answered the All Whites call.
Speaker 14 (35:09):
You know, you could easily have pulled a mystery hamstring
on occasion and not come. You've always come, whether it's
a World Cup qualifier or a friendly in some far
flung part of the world. What is behind your deep
desire to always play for the All Whites?
Speaker 13 (35:24):
The weather, of course, the reason I'm back here. No,
I love pulling on the shirt. I love being around
these boys. It's home and even when we're not playing
at home, we're going I go away with this team.
It feels like home because you're around the same characters,
the same culture that I grew up with, and it's
just a pleasure to be around this group.
Speaker 14 (35:42):
Premier League season, we just talked briefly about that, Nottingham
Forest having a wonderful season. As are you at the
start of the season. Did it feel like something like
this was in the offing.
Speaker 13 (35:53):
I don't think anybody can say that we would have
been where we are, but we did have high hopes
of being top ten or aiming to top ten, and
that's where our goals were at start of the season,
and hopefully we've been able to achieve that. And now
it's looking on and beyond and seeing where we can
get to.
Speaker 8 (36:09):
What have been the keys to Nottingham Forests success this season.
Speaker 13 (36:14):
Camaraderie, consistency, a team sticking together. I think the work
we do off the pitch is what brings it on
the pitch, fighting for each other, and I think that's
shown over course of the season while we've stuck together
so well, and while we're at where we.
Speaker 14 (36:28):
Are in eighteen goals for you, you best ever return
on a Premier League season. More to come, we hope.
And You've talked often about how a lot of it
is down to your teammates. Is this the team in
which you have been given the best service do you
think across your elite football career.
Speaker 13 (36:44):
I think it's up there, definitely. I think it's a
team that creates a number of chances and things like that,
which obviously aids in my strengths. I'm a player that
strives on delivery and service, so I definitely can't do
it without my teammates around me. So I've got a
fantastic team both here and in Nottingham that's supply me
with chances and it's about me trying to stick them away.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
The right call is your call on eighty Sports Talk
call on your home of sports used TALKB.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
She said, superstarted the man Chris Wood, captain of the
All Whites. A couple of c games coming up Friday,
up against fig when that one they go through to
the final on Monday, and then it's straight to the
World Cup. I've got in a couple of years time
every man's dog about it appear at the World Cup.
There's so many teams allowed and anyway, so be Elijah,
I think who joins us next? Let's head off to
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go media stadium And took a bit of four minute
Miley seven minutes to eight o'clock Sports Talk on News
(37:59):
Talks EB. There's something really quite marvelous happening out well,
we'd like to think so happening out Mounds Smart. Race
starts at eight point fifteen.
Speaker 13 (38:12):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Well, I'll tell you what it is because I've got
a bloke who's standing there now, Elijah, who is one
of the sports news supporters for News Talking ZEBB. Great things,
Welcome to Sports Thought, right. What's up.
Speaker 15 (38:25):
Hey, Great to hear from you, Darcy. Yeah, yeah, it's
a bit chilly down here at Mount Smart obviously, Sam
Ruth fifteen year old teenage middle distance running Proligy looking
to become the youngest ever to clock a sub four
minute mile, which would be amazing, amazing feet for his age.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Is this possible in these conditions? Like, I've got no
idea about running four minutes. There's a bit of a
chill in the air actually help.
Speaker 15 (38:50):
I'm not too sure. I mean, personally I would run
with I'd like a bit of chill behind me when
I run, but obviously I'm not Sam Ruth. But they've
pretty much cleared up the lanes. The inside lane. It
was full of puddles before because of the reign of
the last few hours, but the conditions are pretty much
cleared up. They've made sure there's no puddles, so it's
an easy lane for Sam to run. And he's going
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to be paced by Sam Tano, who's obviously a two
time Olympian, and he will have another pacer with him
as well, so he's going to have some support here.
And in terms of the crowd support, I mean we're
looking at probably a couple of hundred here, many within
the athletics community. So Sam's definitely going to be back
for his record breaking attempt.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
So it's not a standalone race. This is actually purely
designed to beat that record. That's it, right, or.
Speaker 15 (39:40):
As far as I understand. Yeah, it's an elite men's race,
there's an elite woman's race. So it's not just Sam
by himself the other athletes out here on the track
who were.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
But at him, isn't it. That's the whole idea. This
is what they're trying to do, is they want to
propel this guy to a crazy record.
Speaker 15 (39:54):
Yet pretty much, yeah, I mean this is all about
Sam Ruth. I think pretty much everyone here at Mount
Smart and everyone on the live stream has been waiting
to watch Sam Ruth in person achieve this feed and
it would be amazing to if he was able to
achieve that. So yeah, I think this is all about
Sam and hopefully he can achieve that marker tonight.
Speaker 9 (40:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
And his placement in one of his pace citters is
as you said, Sam Tanner, and they drew, they tied
had the fifteen hundred meter a New Zealand champ for
memes earlier in the and that was a stunning race
if you even get to see it. Finally, Elijah, fighter
for you and thanks very much for your time. As always,
chances are what's the noise in the crab be like,
what have they been saying?
Speaker 15 (40:37):
Well, the rains already had an impact because the sound
system has gone down, So that's it's off to a
torrid start there. But in terms of the crowd, I
expected things to ramp up once the action gets underway.
As I mentioned before, is probably about we're looking about
a couple of hundred who were here, many within the
athletics community. It's quite a tight knook community, so you
do expect a huge row for Sam when he does
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get underwear, and they'll be ready to power them home
for the final stretch as well.
Speaker 9 (41:03):
Well.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Get amongst Elijah Fee, thanks very much for joining us
in the freezing driving rain of any Hey, just a.
Speaker 8 (41:11):
Quick word, just a quick word.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
No, no, not with you, Elijah. It's a quick word.
It's like, yeah, just a quick word to the folk
out there listening. Hey, a big day in New Zealand
sports writing. Today. Chris rah two at his last article
printed for New Zealand Herald. He's been around forty plus years.
(41:34):
The titles rats all folks and it's him picking the
most memorable sports people he has ever interviewed. The guy
is a dead set legend. I was terrified of him
before I came here working at Radio Sport. We moved
in together. He's one of the nicest guys you could
ever meet, and he's brave enough and ballsy enough to
have his own opinion and not be moved on that
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opinion by anybody. You're a superstar. Christ Rah two. You're
really going to be missed around the office, really are.
Thanks for all of your time, all of your in
and and everything you've given us up here at News
Talk c being that you shall unhill go well, my friend, hey,
and thanks to you Melstich as well, push the show out.
Love your work. Here comes Marc's lust.
Speaker 8 (42:19):
For more from sports Talk.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Listen live to News Talks it'd be from seven pm weekdays,
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You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Darcy Waldegrave
from News Talk ZEDB.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Good evening, Welcome in sports Talk seven minutes up seven.
It's a Wednesday evening, nineteenth of March twenty twenty five.
My name is Darcy Waldgrave. Thanks for joining myself and
our guests, and there are many of them of an evening.
Right toward the end of the program, will head off
(00:35):
to Mountain Smart formerly known as Alda Tonga and as
well the English turned up and like basically quarried the
whole hill, so godbt flat and they put a stadium
on it. Anyway, what's happening there. There's an attempt on
the four minute mile and if this bloke gets done,
mister Ruth, he'll be the youngest man in history to
(00:57):
achieve that. So Elijah will be there. We'll catch up
with him earlier on today. Jason Pine could barely contain
his excitement, I'm sure, as he got to speak with
the All Whites captain and the man who's having a
great deal of fun scoring at will for Nottingham Forest
over in the Epl's name is Chris Wood. He's in
town for the OFC semi final on Friday and the
(01:20):
final coming up on Monday. Should the All Whites get
through and if they don't, there needs to be an investigation.
So Jason Pine caught up with one of the greatest
football exports we've got. We'll play that interview for you
later on the piece. And shortly but an Allsman joins us.
He's a senior journalist for the New Zealand Herald, who's
right across Auckland affairs. And of course, if there's any
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bigger Auckland affair than how to build a stadium, I
don't know what it is. And this has come across
again and we're looking at again do we actually need it?
There's twelve and a half thousand seats around the perfect size.
How long will this last? Are you bored of this yet?
And does the fact that three billionaires are behind this
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proposal make it a fighter on plea? Because no one's
got any money except them. That's what we're going to
be talking about on the program. But before any of that,
let's do this and in sport today, very soon at
Mountains Smart's young middle distance weapon called sam Ruth will
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attempt to break the four minute mile mark at fifteen.
It will become the youngest ever to achieve the feat,
pacing him as Sam Tanner, who he tied with in
the fifteen hundred meter final at the Nationals earlier this year.
What a race. Find the footage if you can. Tanner
spoke with the current youngest four minute mile conqueror, Jacob Ingebritson,
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and he knocked this off at sixteen.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
How I spoke to Yucker Bingerbertson at one of the
Diamond Leagues and he was saying that he has almost
trained twice a day every day since he's twelve years old.
I know for a fact that Sam's not doing that.
So for him to be as good as not better
than Yakub as phenomenal A fifteen.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
It's underway. Georgia Miller is and to get back into
the filth of fifteen. The seven Star is available for
the Black Ferns at World Cup selection. The former Canterbury
fifteen's rep is one of seven Seven's sisters made themselves
available for Alan Bunting's defending champions. The tournament is set
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to go in England later this year and George's on it.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
There's some high level professionals in that team, with heaps
of knowledge that man, I just love to learn off
and just be a sponge, which I think is really exciting,
like a whole new challenge. So yeah, can't wait for
a mole scrum for dirty work.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Returning White Ferns superstar Sophie Divine us back for the
Australian series after spending time away from the game to
look after her well being. Did she think though her
time was up with the reigning T twenty champion Ferns.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
Completely honest, Yeah, certainly to be able to have to
process through a few of those things. Obviously unfortunately not
getting any younger, so they naturally came into mind. But yeah,
I'm just really excited to be here. This can be
focusing on each day as it comes and just really
enjoying every day with the White fans.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Frankly, I love you in a platonic way, Sophie Devine,
But I'll take umbrage with that comment talking say unfortunately
I'm not getting any younger. Fortunately, I'm not getting any younger.
I was awful. I love maturity, I love getting older.
There's rocks, said the fifty five year old, and he
couldn't help himself, could he. He just couldn't Crusaders coach
(04:33):
Robert Penn's a penny. He started well, right, he started well,
empathizing with the Blues around the loss of some key
players ahead of this weekend's Super Rugby Pacific clash at
Eden Park.
Speaker 7 (04:46):
He started, well, I don't think anyone likes to see
people being dealt a negative hand of any sort. We
are talking about the Blues though, just couldn't help himself.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Good he And that's all right, We're going to talk
about yet another stadium. They're they're everywhere, they reading all
over Auckland, and none of them seem to go to
full term though, do there? Which is the right shame?
That's really all we're after this time around. This information
has been released prematurely around what happens at Western Springs
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once they managed to clear away the speedway.
Speaker 8 (05:23):
If indeed that.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Happens, that's another story. But Western Springs has got a
tres place in the heart of most Aucklands for a
number of different reasons. Three various organizations have come across
the table and said to Auckland City, we'd like to
put something there. There are three of them, and we'll
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talk about those three applications, right here right now as
we go to senior journalist at the New Zealand Herald,
a man who covers things off and has been around
covering these off for a long long time. His name
is Bernard Oorsman. He joins us now, good evening, Bernard,
good evening. Does he interesting? Yet another set of proposals
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coming out for yet another stadium. We've always known that
Western Springs was looking like moving. That's another argument, isn't it.
And we thought that Auckland football we're going to try
and climb into that. It's come out now that that's
one of the applications. There are three put forward for
the future of Western Springs Stadium. There's one from CRS
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Records are privately funder a transformation of that venue to
our premier live entertainment venue and activities with a capacity
of what forty five thousand people. You've got the one
from MWF, which is basically the one that Ali Williams
is promoting, a twelve and a half thousand seat stadium.
(06:51):
Sports Facilities and Ponsumi Rugby Club are looking to a
venue to enable fifty thousand concert goers. But the big
asterisk here is redeveloping the site with proposal to the
Council for further funding. Out of those three many propositions,
what one do you think the Council would lean toward them?
Speaker 9 (07:12):
I really don't know, Darcy. At this stage, the Council
is taking a mutual position on the three proposals they've
come forward from expressions of interest that were sought last
year to manage Western Springs going forward, and the councilors
will make a decision as to which option they prefer
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in early May.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Which way do counselors tend to lean in decisions like that,
like what are their most relevant concerns, their biggest considerations?
Speaker 9 (07:45):
Well, I think their biggest consideration in this case is
what they think is best for the future of Western Springs.
All three proposals sort of offer different options for the
future of Western Springs, and at the stage I couldn't
tell you which way the councilors are going to to
(08:07):
lean If there's a majority behind one of these options,
I really don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
When you look at the lack of money that everybody
seems to have in this day and age, is the
fact that there's a couple of billionaires behind one of
these proposals, is that likely to maybe give them an
insideline because it's not going to cost anyone anything.
Speaker 9 (08:29):
Well, that the council's made it, it's very clear that
whoever gets selected to manage Western Springs in the future
can't expect to get any council funding with their proposal.
I guess you've got to say that the proposal put
forward by Ali William Williams and Co. Does have serious
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financial backers. We've got billionaires involved, so perhaps you know
that gives them the inside running.
Speaker 10 (08:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 9 (08:59):
We'll just have to wait and see.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
How long do these decisions normally take. Look, I think
that this ball has been let out of the gate
a little early. I don't know who's responsible for that,
but I've got an idea. One's already been considered. Two
A coming up next week in the fullness of time.
From your knowledge and dealing with counsel, these decisions aren't
made in a hurry. How long do you think before
there is I suppose a blue tech if you will.
Speaker 9 (09:24):
Well, the process is the councilors decide a which one
they prefer in early May, then the issue goes out
for public consultation. Then it will probably come back to
Council for confirmation or otherwise, and then it's a matter
of sort of working through the various resource consent processes.
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One factor at play here is that Ponsonby Rugby Club
has a lease at Western Springs until twenty twenty seven,
and if they were to be unsuccessful and another proposal
was to come forward, they would have to wait until
twenty twenty seven before they could get spades in the ground.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
What about Western Spring Speedway? For as long as I've
been in Auckland, I think over twenty years, this has
got a zombie like state. It returns from the dead.
It always seems to be coming up to the last
dance at Western Springs. It won't go away, So I
suppose they've got to be confident that it will go away.
But we know of recent conversations. Is that Western Springs
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dead in the water as far as you're concerned, Is
this definitely the end? Or they still rise up and
cause a ruckus?
Speaker 9 (10:32):
Well, the last race at Western Springs is on Saturday night,
and I think all the indications are that will be
the end of speedwak of Speedway at Western Springs and
it will move to Wayite Iraka Park next season.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I suppose that's what's written that. Whether it happens, you've
been around long enough. They've got a really good habit
of not releasing, have they. They're pretty good Western springs.
It's starting where they are.
Speaker 9 (10:59):
Well, there's a couple of possibilities there. One is that
the works at Waite Oraka part have to be ready
in time for the start next season. If that doesn't occur,
that could possibly give Speedway another season. There's another possibility.
There's been talk of a judicial review being taken against
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the decision to move Speedway to Whakaraka Park, but that
hasn't been lodged yet. So I'd say at this stage
it looks almost definite that Speedway will will bring down
the curtains, so to speak, on Saturday crying shame.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I love that place, but so be it. You've got
to advance. It's the nature of the human race, always
looking forward. Are the points of influence around here? People
like or can transport for example, EWE involved too. What
are the other big mitigating factors here around getting something
like whatever this is that gets given the tech to
be established.
Speaker 9 (12:01):
Well, I think they really they just have to go
through the normal resource consent process of lodging a consent
that involves talking to various stakeholders, talking to EWI and
so forth. I can't really see any any difficult issues
to overcome. I mean, so long as they sort of
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abide by the conditions that are laid down by the council.
Because the Council will have to issue a lease for
Western Springs, there'll be conditions around that what they can
and can't do. And I imagine if the successful body,
if you like, abides by those conditions, goes through the
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normal resource consent process, then it's all go.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Does Auckland City need a twelve and a half thousand
seat stadium but yet another stadium to add to the
mess of studium We have scattered it well all around
the nine Well.
Speaker 9 (13:01):
One of the ironies of this is that back in
twenty twelve, Auckland Council unveiled a stadium strategy and one
of the guiding reasons for that was they thought that
Auckland had too many stadiums and there should be fewer stadiums.
If say, the Eli Williams proposal goes ahead, well Auckland
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will end up with a new stadium of twelve and
a half thousand. It seems to me to be a
good size. You know, twelve and a half thousand will
sort of suit a number of sporting codes, a number
of franchises, and you know, it could could turn out
to be a huge success.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
It could be nice to have a roof on it.
Or is that asking too much, do you think, Bernie?
Speaker 9 (13:46):
Well, if that is Ali Williams and co. You know
they might have to stretch their wallet a bit further.
And if they want a roof.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Have a roof. I could park his helicopter on it
and just kind of take your cab out to west Mare.
That's Bernard Orsman, Thank you. Here's a senior New Zealander
Herald journalist who covers a lot of Auckland affairs, including
this one. This is fascinating, weird. I've got questions for you,
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questions that I can't answer, although I will attend to
at some stage. At one hundred eighty ten eighty lines
are open. Okay, a few questions out of this. They're
too small. But let's say because the other two propositions,
one of them some CRS Records. It's a live entertainment
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concert and festival venue. The guy behind this is the
guy who's behind the big day out. Bring the big
day out out more over that mate, I'm on, I
want this to happen. So maximum capacity forty five thousand people,
cultural events, community sports. That sounds good to be rugby club.
(15:08):
They want to extend their occupancy. They're in the twenty
twenty seven. They want about a host fifty thousand capacity concerts,
redevelop the site. Big problem there is the last line
redeveloping the site with proposal to the council for further
fund and the council haven't got any money. I'm going
(15:28):
to give it to you if they do so, I
don't know if ponsb. I've got an Iceberg's chance in
hell of getting anything through an NWF new co which
is this Ali William Stephen Adams fronted Affair wants this precinct,
as they call it, sport, culture, entertainment, job and a
half feet stadium, twelve and a half thousand seat stadium,
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sports facilities, indoor basketball, paddle courts, artificial training fields, hospitality, concourse.
The list goes on. That's what they want to do.
So there they are. They've all been presentable. One of
those applications The vision has been presented to the councilors
last week. Two of them are presenting next week. So
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what you say, is it too small? Because I think
the favorite in here, especially when it comes to funding it.
I don't know where the funding comes from from CRS record.
They say it's privately funded transformation. But when you standing
there with a couple of billionaires behind you with check books,
(16:36):
you think, well, it's going to be fine. Sort that
one out. That's got to be favorite. It is another stadium.
So the questions to you that there are a couple
of them, is it actually necessary? Do we need a
twelve and a half thousand seat stadium? It hasn't got
a roof in Auckland City, five k from the center
of the city. Do we really need that? Is it
(16:57):
really needed? There's got more white elephants all over the show.
It's not Harbor Mount. Smartness goes on, is it too
small at twelve and a half thousand If you're going
to do it twenty five thousand, surely means actually put
stuff in it? I mean, do we need this? Is
it necessary? Do you what will this actually happen? This
(17:18):
is another pipe dream, isn't it. I've seen too many
of these things to collapse into nothing, to be anything
more than a cynic Twenty four minutes after seven, your thoughts?
Is it too small? Is it necessary? Will it happen?
Eight hundred eighty ten eighty This is News Talks ab
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airb lines are open on eight hundred eighty ten eighty.
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of texts on the subject. I'd like to hear your
voice though, I mean, you can't help but being cynical
when you see these things. There we go again. There's
a couple of the reasons behind that. Do you really
think that Western Springs is actually going to be shifted
on in a half life of two hundred and fifty
six thousand years. They not seem to go. I'm I'm
(19:35):
not crying about that, and we love the place. There's
one thing. The second thing is fighting through the resource
consent required, which Bernard Allsman pointed out before. It's very
difficult task. You've got the E to deal with, obviously,
(19:57):
the Springs fighting back, You've got Auckland Transport. There are
a number of bodies involved in this that I think
make things very very tough. But plainly, as Bill Fowley,
one of the billionaires behind one of these proposals. It's
as he gets things done, and look, he has got
(20:19):
things done before and so maybe now he spent a
bit of time. I thought it was going to be
twenty twenty five thousand seats. In my humble opinion, twelve
and a half thousand seats is too small. If you're
going to do it, do it properly. I don't want
fifty thousand seats. That's We've got one of those. It's
called Eden Park. Around the corner, we've got a bigger
they're going to tap a roof on that suite. Twelve
(20:42):
and a half thousand. Really it's too little. It's a
point of differences. I don't understand. I yeah, what do
you think of that? Our eight hundred and eighty ten eighty?
Oh hey dusk, can you please let us know where
to watch the young Ripper of a crack at the
sub for minute mile? So I can it be live
(21:03):
streamed on Athletic New Zealand at a Letox New Zealand's
to their YouTube channel. Take have a look at that.
That's forty five minutes. Is mister Ruth trying to break
a record? Why let's get back to the phones. Now
we're joined by Roscot Evenings.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
You yeah, hi there. Look in my opinion, humble opinion.
We've missed a wonderful chance about ten years ago to
have about a fifteen thousand seat stadium, and they could
have put it at Merton Road or Auckland. Tennis could
have sold the land at Stanley Street, even though there
was complications with it, and they could have combined with
(21:40):
netball to put about a fifteen thousand seat stadium at
the down on Merton Road. They had the land in
those days. They've sold off the land, so the opportunity's gone.
But there was a wonderful opportunity there to have about
a fifteen thousand seat stadium, which would have done a
wonderful job for netball or volleyball or whatever ball you like,
(22:02):
as well as fifteen thousand.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
It kind of sits in the strange nowhere's in you've
got vector or spark, I don't remember what Telecom covers
it now, which I think you can fit eight twelve
thousand people at a stretch for a big concert, maybe
not quite maybe eleven. So we need another one that's
roughly the same size at.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
Least or fifteen thousand stadium down depending on the size.
But the opportunity was there if people had got the
hit out of the stand.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
The opportunity Ross. The opportunity was when one of the
most magnificent stadiums or venues anyway in Auckland, when that
came up for sale, and that's in a very similar area,
and that of course is Carlow Park. Now, that would
have been stunning and it had enough room to put
something considerably bigger in and it was right by the city.
(22:55):
But it's full of lost opportunity. Ross, Well, what do
we do now? As any of these.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
The land is totally different value. But the stadium that
they could have put Merton Road, like I say for netball,
and the netball is not far away from Merton Road now,
and they could have done a beautiful indoor stadium and
combined it with the tennis.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Well, I don't think it sits where they could have done.
But they couldn't have played football there.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Oh you don't want to play football. We're talking about
a medium size, small stadium. You're talking about stadium.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
This is a proposition to put a twelve and a
half thousand seed stadium at Western Springs, So where does
that sit? Well, First and foremost, I presume that they
want to stick their AKFC football team in it. And
then there's other facilities surrounding at a sports complex and
it's within five k a town that'd be the drive around.
Speaker 11 (23:54):
It.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Just don't want to go, do they?
Speaker 9 (23:58):
No?
Speaker 5 (23:58):
In my view, the Western Springs should still be for
the motorsports. End the story.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
I think a lot of people agree with you that
one ross. They love it. I'm saying, it's been there
for so long, why does it have to move? And
I like race cars enjoy Western Springs. But things develop,
things move forward, things left, things pick up, things move on.
Just because it's been there for one hundred years, it
means they have to be there for another one hundred years.
(24:26):
It's not how life works. Things change, and you probably
bored me talking about us. But if things didn't change
and we didn't develop and adjust, we'd still be living
in caves, which for some of you might be fantastic,
but for a lot of us doesn't really cut the mustard.
It's seven to thirty four. A few texts on this
(24:47):
as well. He does leave the speed by alone. It's
been there are a hundred years. If that was a
bloody building, no one'd be allowed to touch it. It's made
more Auclors happy than any stadium bar Eden Park in
the city. Who cares about Auckland Stadium built or not,
Thank you very much for that person. Outside of the nine.
(25:09):
I think we kind of have to care as the
nation because even though a lot of people I know
to test Aukland they hate the Jabbers, won't come anywhere
near the place. Most of our population here. It's kind
of like a hub. You kind of got to look
after what goes on, and it's quite key at less
you want to cut the cable and just like float
(25:29):
to my parma waft and I understand that as well.
Andre writes, long live Western Spring Speedway twelve thousand multi
purpose stadium is just too small. I agree. If you're
on that, how can the council claim to be neutral
after the speedway, debarkle, I've got no idea the springs.
(25:51):
This is an interesting point. The Spring Speedway was effectively
shut down due to noise. How on earth were any
concert then can be approved? It's the thought, can Mark,
how are.
Speaker 11 (26:00):
You Darcy look the problem with speedways? And you've been
able to conser because it can't move. It's timing because
it happens about twenty two nights a year. They go
to twenty two nights a year. Yeah, yeah, those are
all Saturday nights for majority of them. Is it that
Saturday night?
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Is that six months?
Speaker 11 (26:23):
That's Saturday nights in summer? Sometimes it's Friday and Saturdays
or Saturday and Sundays on your weekend off in the
evening when you're trying to relax and you hear this noise.
I lived in Parmi for a number of years. I
couldn't believe the noise from that speedway on Saturday night,
(26:44):
going across the entire city. Everybody where did you live Mark,
from Parmis the North?
Speaker 9 (26:52):
No?
Speaker 2 (26:52):
No, No, you couldn't hear from Parmis the North when
you moved up here.
Speaker 12 (26:55):
Oh, when I lived in Auckland, I lived very close.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Were you aware of it before you moved in or
bought there or not?
Speaker 11 (27:04):
Everybody is. But the problem that is speedway make the justification,
but the bottom of they can't face up to. As
I say, is it Saturday nights in the middle of
summer when you trying to buddy relax? That the heat.
You need this noise, this drone, this drone for about
five hours every Saturday night when you're trying to have
your whole It.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Is difficult because it is a built up area. And
I'm but I mean, if we apply that same theory,
does that make it okay for me to go and
hog tie the neighbor with his bloody leaf blow at
the same time.
Speaker 12 (27:35):
The words of them when people go on about concerts
or a concert concert at sixty seven a.
Speaker 11 (27:42):
Year, so you think I can see two hours, that's it.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
It's the time. It's the consistent noise.
Speaker 12 (27:51):
And if it was on a Saturday afternoon when you
could mow your own lawn and drown out your own
noise and it was done and dusted by five thirty, shi,
you go into the evening if you're quiet, barbecue, put
on your Nora Jones, if you want to mallow out.
Speaker 11 (28:05):
To and they'd be popping that. People will be a
lot to deal with it. But it has to be
at night under lights. Yeah, and I go back an
exclude themselves.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Well, you know what, you know, I love motorsport, but
as I said before, you've got to develop and move on.
As the city has grown, as the city has gotten
bigger and bigger and more densely populated, As you pointed out,
the small amount of people that love speedway still have
the right to push their love on everybody else. I mean,
that is another bad question. So that's why they're going
to move into Wai Karaka Park because no one lives
(28:38):
out there miles away from anyone, and can someone's gonna
ring that from when you hunger and go hold on?
We don't like to noise either. Thank you much for
your call, mate. I wait, one hundred and eighty ten eighty.
If you want to roll on and it is seven
thirty eight, are you going to do it? Aren't you? Look? Yeah,
(29:02):
I know it's Nora Jones. I know who was talking
about Nora Jones. Think I'm not as stupid as I look.
That's why I'm on radio. It may it was there
a long time before you and your family. If you
don't like it, don't live there. But there is that
like it's become very intensified living in Auckland City. A
lot more people there than what it was back in
(29:23):
the day. And just because it's been there for a
hundred years. As mean as it is to be there
for another hundred years. Who does it and who does
its freedoms? As it pins? I mean, I like the
place Evening Darcy held Western Springs Colo is an international
sized cricket ground. What would be great, Keith, but no
one wants to pay for it? Right, there's your problem,
(29:44):
a cloud.
Speaker 8 (29:45):
It's a relaxing no, no, not me, Nora.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
It's twenty away from eight Chris Wood and Jason Pines.
You get it on shortly, it's coming up next on
that sports talk I mean Elijah Feet who joins us
from Mount Smart? Mean your stadium an out of Tonguel
What you're gonna call it to talk about a fifteen
year old running like the wind and circles for a
(30:10):
mile for four minutes? What sports talk on News talk
(30:30):
Z the Western Springs and another and a long line
of dramas around Steady Eye and the like in Auckland
City today, Matt, what have you got for us?
Speaker 13 (30:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (30:40):
I was just curious with the different attitudes around the
Western Springs. I must say I was at first when
the first noises were made about about it being a
problem and canning it and kicking it out. You know,
I was fully in the camp of tradition has been
there forever. While from there you'll say homes, you know,
(31:07):
it's the existing thing. And then when I realized actually
that there is somewhere else for them to go, the
potentially could be better, and I got it, I sort
of came around. I still feel like it shouldn't be
chance forever because there is opportunity to have maybe an
(31:29):
annual event. There is something that could actually be a
good event. He'll be more excited about, they'll be less
hate about the noise. Because I'm a traditionalist, I think
it'd be a shame, you know, Like you say, like
develop developed. You know, we have to move on, but
at the same time we also need to hang on
to history and tradition and get to retain the aspects
(31:55):
that make our city. I mean, I'm from Tower and
we you've got speedway here that they're trying to cancel,
but nowhere else to go. But yeah, I know it's
a shame to kill things completely just for the sake
of moving on, and because you've got a bunch of
people winging that moves into an area. And then when ah,
(32:15):
it's a.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Common argument, isn't it, Matt, And I get that, and
thanks very much for your call. A lot of people
still saying, well, if you didn't know your name, let
you move in there. But I suppose it's a majority
of minority thing about who it benefits greatly living in
the central city. I love Speedway. I'd love to see
it stay, but I can understand how incredibly grating it
would be to a number of people when you say, look,
don't move into the city. You can hear that speedway everywhere.
(32:39):
It's not a secret squirrel, it really isn't anyway enough already,
Let's let Jason Pine now fill his boots with the
all white captain, mister Chris Wood. Duzzy, Just like I said,
there he is filling his boots with Chris Wood.
Speaker 8 (32:56):
Get a mugs, Christmas Quaker. Back to New Zealand.
Speaker 14 (32:59):
Welcome back to the scene of fifteen and a half
years ago, a game against Bahrain, when in the eighty
third minute you were seeing time to help secure a
one nil win. What do you remember most vividly about
that night?
Speaker 13 (33:10):
Probably the final whistle, when the excitement and everything went,
run the stadium, run the team, and yeah, knowing that
we completed something that was truly historical in New Zealand history.
Speaker 14 (33:19):
Could you ever have imagined that, you know that would
be the springboard for you to go on to achieve
what you have as a professional footballer.
Speaker 13 (33:27):
No, looking back, obviously, I'm very proud of what I've
been able to achieve throughout my career. It was a
great start in my career, been able to go to
a World Cup so early on, and hopefully now the
old age I can go again then if we're lucky enough.
Speaker 14 (33:39):
So you mentioned the World Cup in twenty ten games
against Slovakia, Italy, Paraguay, you came on in all three.
Do you ever think back to that shot against Italy
that just defeated the post?
Speaker 6 (33:50):
Look?
Speaker 13 (33:50):
Yeah, it pops into the memories every so often. It
would have been nice if it trickled on the other side,
but it wasn't meant to be. I think the team
done extremely well that year and obviously three jaws unbeatenside
in the World Cup. It's a pretty proud moment.
Speaker 8 (34:03):
How determined are you to get back there sixteen years on?
Speaker 13 (34:06):
Very determined. It's been under no illusion. I spoke about
this a long a lot of period times in the
other qualifying qualifying campaigns that I want to get back there.
It feels like this team and myself have unfinished business
on the world stage, and that's what we want to do.
Speaker 14 (34:20):
It's a very different qualification path now, of course, two games,
one against Figi here and then potentially a final on
Monday night. How do you make sure that you just
go one game at a time and lead nothing to chance.
Speaker 13 (34:30):
Well, that's all we've got to do. It's what we're
focusing on more week. We're focusing on Fiji and that's
all we can do because you can't think too far ahead.
We're going to have a very tough game here and
we need to make sure we're on our a game
to come out on top. They're going to cause us problems,
but we need to make sure we play our game
to hopefully nulliflay everything else.
Speaker 14 (34:47):
So the team I think are all together now. I
think the last players arrived last night. How do you
spend the next forty eight hours as you prepare for
the game against Fiji.
Speaker 13 (34:55):
A lot about it is connecting off the pitch, getting
back to what we used to and then adding a
few implements and training this afternoon tomorrow that we can
find tune ready for Friday night.
Speaker 8 (35:07):
You've always answered the All Whites call.
Speaker 14 (35:09):
You know, you could easily have pulled a mystery hamstring
on occasion and not come. You've always come, whether it's
a World Cup qualifier or a friendly in some far
flung part of the world. What is behind your deep
desire to always play for the All Whites?
Speaker 13 (35:24):
The weather, of course, the reason I'm back here. No,
I love pulling on the shirt. I love being around
these boys. It's home and even when we're not playing
at home, we're going I go away with this team.
It feels like home because you're around the same characters,
the same culture that I grew up with, and it's
just a pleasure to be around this group.
Speaker 14 (35:42):
Premier League season, we just talked briefly about that, Nottingham
Forest having a wonderful season. As are you at the
start of the season. Did it feel like something like
this was in the offing.
Speaker 13 (35:53):
I don't think anybody can say that we would have
been where we are, but we did have high hopes
of being top ten or aiming to top ten, and
that's where our goals were at start of the season,
and hopefully we've been able to achieve that. And now
it's looking on and beyond and seeing where we can
get to.
Speaker 8 (36:09):
What have been the keys to Nottingham Forests success this season.
Speaker 13 (36:14):
Camaraderie, consistency, a team sticking together. I think the work
we do off the pitch is what brings it on
the pitch, fighting for each other, and I think that's
shown over course of the season while we've stuck together
so well, and while we're at where we.
Speaker 14 (36:28):
Are in eighteen goals for you, you best ever return
on a Premier League season. More to come, we hope.
And You've talked often about how a lot of it
is down to your teammates. Is this the team in
which you have been given the best service do you
think across your elite football career.
Speaker 13 (36:44):
I think it's up there, definitely. I think it's a
team that creates a number of chances and things like that,
which obviously aids in my strengths. I'm a player that
strives on delivery and service, so I definitely can't do
it without my teammates around me. So I've got a
fantastic team both here and in Nottingham that's supply me
with chances and it's about me trying to stick them away.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
The right call is your call on eighty Sports Talk
call on your home of sports used TALKB.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
She said, superstarted the man Chris Wood, captain of the
All Whites. A couple of c games coming up Friday,
up against fig when that one they go through to
the final on Monday, and then it's straight to the
World Cup. I've got in a couple of years time
every man's dog about it appear at the World Cup.
There's so many teams allowed and anyway, so be Elijah,
I think who joins us next? Let's head off to
(37:37):
go media stadium And took a bit of four minute
Miley seven minutes to eight o'clock Sports Talk on News
(37:59):
Talks EB. There's something really quite marvelous happening out well,
we'd like to think so happening out Mounds Smart. Race
starts at eight point fifteen.
Speaker 13 (38:12):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Well, I'll tell you what it is because I've got
a bloke who's standing there now, Elijah, who is one
of the sports news supporters for News Talking ZEBB. Great things,
Welcome to Sports Thought, right. What's up.
Speaker 15 (38:25):
Hey, Great to hear from you, Darcy. Yeah, yeah, it's
a bit chilly down here at Mount Smart obviously, Sam
Ruth fifteen year old teenage middle distance running Proligy looking
to become the youngest ever to clock a sub four
minute mile, which would be amazing, amazing feet for his age.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Is this possible in these conditions? Like, I've got no
idea about running four minutes. There's a bit of a
chill in the air actually help.
Speaker 15 (38:50):
I'm not too sure. I mean, personally I would run
with I'd like a bit of chill behind me when
I run, but obviously I'm not Sam Ruth. But they've
pretty much cleared up the lanes. The inside lane. It
was full of puddles before because of the reign of
the last few hours, but the conditions are pretty much
cleared up. They've made sure there's no puddles, so it's
an easy lane for Sam to run. And he's going
(39:12):
to be paced by Sam Tano, who's obviously a two
time Olympian, and he will have another pacer with him
as well, so he's going to have some support here.
And in terms of the crowd support, I mean we're
looking at probably a couple of hundred here, many within
the athletics community. So Sam's definitely going to be back
for his record breaking attempt.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
So it's not a standalone race. This is actually purely
designed to beat that record. That's it, right, or.
Speaker 15 (39:40):
As far as I understand. Yeah, it's an elite men's race,
there's an elite woman's race. So it's not just Sam
by himself the other athletes out here on the track
who were.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
But at him, isn't it. That's the whole idea. This
is what they're trying to do, is they want to
propel this guy to a crazy record.
Speaker 15 (39:54):
Yet pretty much, yeah, I mean this is all about
Sam Ruth. I think pretty much everyone here at Mount
Smart and everyone on the live stream has been waiting
to watch Sam Ruth in person achieve this feed and
it would be amazing to if he was able to
achieve that. So yeah, I think this is all about
Sam and hopefully he can achieve that marker tonight.
Speaker 9 (40:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
And his placement in one of his pace citters is
as you said, Sam Tanner, and they drew, they tied
had the fifteen hundred meter a New Zealand champ for
memes earlier in the and that was a stunning race
if you even get to see it. Finally, Elijah, fighter
for you and thanks very much for your time. As always,
chances are what's the noise in the crab be like,
what have they been saying?
Speaker 15 (40:37):
Well, the rains already had an impact because the sound
system has gone down, So that's it's off to a
torrid start there. But in terms of the crowd, I
expected things to ramp up once the action gets underway.
As I mentioned before, is probably about we're looking about
a couple of hundred who were here, many within the
athletics community. It's quite a tight knook community, so you
do expect a huge row for Sam when he does
(40:59):
get underwear, and they'll be ready to power them home
for the final stretch as well.
Speaker 9 (41:03):
Well.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Get amongst Elijah Fee, thanks very much for joining us
in the freezing driving rain of any Hey, just a.
Speaker 8 (41:11):
Quick word, just a quick word.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
No, no, not with you, Elijah. It's a quick word.
It's like, yeah, just a quick word to the folk
out there listening. Hey, a big day in New Zealand
sports writing. Today. Chris rah two at his last article
printed for New Zealand Herald. He's been around forty plus years.
(41:34):
The titles rats all folks and it's him picking the
most memorable sports people he has ever interviewed. The guy
is a dead set legend. I was terrified of him
before I came here working at Radio Sport. We moved
in together. He's one of the nicest guys you could
ever meet, and he's brave enough and ballsy enough to
have his own opinion and not be moved on that
(41:55):
opinion by anybody. You're a superstar. Christ Rah two. You're
really going to be missed around the office, really are.
Thanks for all of your time, all of your in
and and everything you've given us up here at News
Talk c being that you shall unhill go well, my friend, hey,
and thanks to you Melstich as well, push the show out.
Love your work. Here comes Marc's lust.
Speaker 8 (42:19):
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