August 18, 2024 • 39 mins
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Matt Heath joins Manaia Stewart to reveal the results of the Greatest NZer of All Time debate from across the weekend (0:00) as well as the Black Caps 4-Test series against Australia in 26/27 (10:43)!
Then the fellas discuss implementing a mercy rule for games like the ABs & Pumas on Saturday (13:44), Dan Hooker & Kai Kara-France's big wins and what's next for Izzy (23:22)...
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Live for the Export Beer Gardens Studio and brought to
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the Agenda Podcast for August the nineteenth.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
The Agenda Podcast, the home of Sporting nonsense and clap Trap,
brought to you by Export a Vulture.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Quick posture check because all episodes are now on YouTube,
so we need to make other numbers postures are correct. Yeah,
good man, we almost at double digits last week.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
So we are coming for you, mister beasts. Yeah, I
see the biggest What did he get canceled?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Well, there's a lot going on with mister Beast at
the moment I said, I don't want to unpack it.
There's accusations of unsanctioned lotteries. Is a hasty anyway, let's
not get into it.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
It's not unpacked mister beast anyway. Oh, it sounds like
he's exposed. Then we could take him out. Yeah, yeah,
we're coming for you, mister beast.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
He still seems to beginning about seventy five to one
hundred and fifty million views on each poard, but there
you go.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yeah, but at one point, you know, he was getting
ten yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
So yeah, at one point yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
We're taking over this YouTube game, one viewer at a time,
and if you want to be the eleventh go and
check it out right now on YouTube. The Greatest New
Zealander which started as one of the all time owned
goals from the ACC because we started this bracket during
the Olympics. Was you and I talking about who is
the Greatest New Zealander of all time?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Yeah? That's right, we did, didn't we.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yeah, And it was like, well, let's put it to
the test, let's find out. And so we're still chewing
our way through round one. Round one's almost done. Stacy
Jones faced Simon Manoring on Friday. Oh wow, yeah, perfect
time because the Warriors were playing. Stacy Jones smashed Simon Mannering.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah, I thought that would happen. Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I think Stacy's just a bit more of like a
club legend.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
You don't really hear anything of Simon Minoring.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Nah, it's just I mean, I mean, you see, we
see Stacey every week, don't we.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, rolling around rolling durriies and the coaches box.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
And we'll get into the Warriors down the track as well.
Jonah came up against Colin Meads on Saturday as well,
that's got to be Jonah, right, it was Jonah by
a mile, and I think primarily because there's more footage. Yeah,
more of a global superstar. Yeah, I see there's going
to be a documentary now out of about Jonah.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
We're talking about it the other day.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I think that Rugby needs us more than anything they
made that like Six Nations one, but.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah, no, it doesn't and needs it. Although I mentioned
like I don't want to go deeply, but there always
seems to be family issues around any time Jonah's doing anything.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Well, that's why the documentary hadn't come out because there
was a whole kerfuffle about who owns what?
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah, seems to do. It always seems to pop up,
doesn't it.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Well, I think, I think, and we did talk about
it a Friday, But I feel like it's something to
do with he lift his estate to his lawyer.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
But then his family's just like what the fuck? He's
our Like, he's our family. You can't just decide what
to do with his stuff.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah, and look, I don't know all the details, so
this is purely speculation. But imagine a lawyer would like
legal stuff to keep rolling through.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah, and that's exactly what's going on.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I think, so the state. But look, look, be interesting
to see the percentage of the state that goes to
legal fees.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah, anyway, Look, let's not go down there.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
It's not walk into something I know absolutely nothing about.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
No, what I do now is Jonah Smash Colm Meads
on Saturday, and then yesterday it was the motorsports matchup.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
This is a great one.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Bruce McClaren taking on John Britton.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I'm gonna say McLaren's still around and out an air
consciousness a bit more.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, And I think yeah, because I don't. I can't
remember the last time I saw a Britain bike. No, No,
but I've seen mclarence.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah, I've seen McLaren's every every day when I'm riding
to work.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I'm pretty sure Israel to Sonia drives on Yeah right, yeah, yeah,
because there's that dealership, isn't there.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Yeah, there's a McLaren deal dealership just on Great North Road.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
My bus goes past that and it's right next to
the Lamborghini dealership as well. And nothing makes you feel
more povo than driving past the McLaren shop on the bus.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Although I saw someone driving in a bright orange like
road cone colored Lamborghini with the number plate Lambo and
the weekend when I was driving back from the North Shore,
and I thought, I think, I don't think there's a
more humiliating setup than a bright orange Lamborghinni with Lambeau
for the number plate. Like I said, a billionaere playing
a practical joke on his son or his wife, Like
(04:08):
I guess my head isn't in that space where I thought,
you take away all the cool of your Lambeau with
the bright orange noess and then having Lambau on it. Yeah,
like you should be throwing away that it's a Lamborghini.
Yes you want to be like you want to look
like Batman going through the night.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Look, you couldn't give a shit that it's a Lamberge.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Yeah yeah, by putting a lamb on it, you give
too much of a shit. Also, so you're equally big
upping yourself but accidentally diminishing yourself at the same time.
I went into a deep spiral trying to work out
what the story was behind having a bright orange Lamborghinni
with Lambeau as the number plate.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
It's it's desperate behavior. I wonder if that person rented
that Lambeau.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
You know what I mean? Ah, God, I didn't think
of that. It's probably a rental Lamborghini. Lamborghini, they probably
don't own it. Yeah, of course, what's this same makes sense?
If that's okay, then that's fine because it's just for fun.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
So the dealership's got it and that Lambeau on the
thing because you know, when you're in Paris, and we
were just in Paris recently, and they always try and
get you to get into a Lamborghini and drive it,
Like do you want to take this Lamborghini around the block. Yeah,
it feels like a scam, but I can't figure out
what the scam is. Yeah, so they crash into you
when you get around the corner, and now all of
a sudden they're on the hook for three quarters of
a million dollars.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, maybe that's right, Like, yeah, don't worry about that
signing that they don't worry the insurance think okay, yeah, yeah,
but if it costs that much to repair it out
of you, is it the repair shop that's running the scam?
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yeah, some sort of insurance slash repair shop situation. Yeah,
that's all I remember of going to the Eiffel Tower.
As you walk in there and there's the duds who
are trying to sell you the little trinkets. Yeah, and
they've all got there. They're out on a blanket. And
then when the cops come past, they packed their blanket
up and run. And then there's the guy who's trying
to get you in the lambo. I was like, I
know what his scam is. What's the lambo scam? What
are you trying to do to me?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
We got scammed by a lambo scam. It was more
like in competence, you know, when Jeremy Jeremy used to
make those mikes minutes and we decided to shoot the
titles the puppet pulling up in a Lamborghini. Yeah, so
we thought it'd be cool. And then an in turn
was putt in charge of renting the Lamborghini and came
(06:11):
back and see it's five hundred bucks all right, someone
was five hundred bucks. Okay, yeah, okay, And then the
bill came in it was five thousand dollars for the
Oh Jesus for the time, and I don't know, I
like I felt for the in turn. It was a
massive cock like a massive cock up. But I think
that was the end of anything fun that you got
(06:32):
to do for a year after that, because the five
thousand dollar fun budget, it's just been throwing at this
average gag or the puppet pulling up in a Lamborghini.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
He's gonna say, when I started, there was absolutely no budget.
So I presume that's what's happened to you. You just
came in just after that, because like, can I have
fifty bucks at the fuck?
Speaker 4 (06:46):
No?
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yeah, I think one of actually Kate Britain had to
buy that howk that's behind you with their own money.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
That controversial hawk. But it's like, you know the shoe bomber,
the guy that put the shoe on the floor. You know,
he did a bad thing, but the amount of damn
and she did to people going forward still having to
take their boots ruined it. In turn, with that Lambo,
we meant that everyone's expenses expenditure was looked over. Yeah,
you know, he the repercussions for that Lambo and Son
(07:11):
it was still with us.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I once wracked up about sixteen thousand dollars in fraudulent
credit card charges on a company credit card, and that's
why I'm now no longer allowed to have a company
credit card at this place, at this vary establishment.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah, so you racked them up with someone knicked to
your credit card number.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Someone must have nicked that I had been used to
book funnily enough flights for you and Jerry too. I
want to say, did you guys go to Japan?
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I think we did at one point.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, either Japan or Chicago. And I did buy flights
for that, and somehow in that they got hold of
it and then bought another sixteen thousand dollars worth of
fraudulent flights, and so I sent it up. We've obviously
got a finance department here at the company, and says
I said, hey, I've been scanned. Here's my card, he's
all of the email stuff that I have, blah blah blah.
(07:57):
And they said, sweet, can you look into it that
now you're the you're the finance department, you look into it.
And they emailed me every day for like six months
saying where did you get to it?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
On this?
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I was like, hey, once again, I'm not going to
look into this. You're the finance department, you look into it.
I'm a promos guy, I'll make dumb promos.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
I just said to remember that trip. So it was
me and Jerry were heading up to Japan and then
g Lane turned up, and then g Lane was staying
in the same hotel as us. You don't think g
Lane jumped on there and booked his own flights on
the back of your credit card? Oh my god?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Because why was he there? Why was he there? I
remember this now?
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Why was he there for a radio Hedeki?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I think Tian Yeah, I think it was an all work,
no play, very important business trip to Japan. Then the
next thing I see, you guys are dressed up. Is
Mario Kartz riding around the streets of Tokyo and g
Lane's there.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yeah, we might need to reopen that investigation you never started.
And I footed the bill.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
See if only I had to put the smallest bit
of you know, effort into looking into that. So yeah,
Brecel Clara as long short of all of that, he
smashed John Britton yesterday on Sunday. Today's one I've already forgotten.
I believe it's cricket. Gonna have a look on the
old It's Bob.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
It's not cricket.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
It's bloody Billy T. James' Free Deack.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Oh wow, the race Wark Jesus. That's an interesting one.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
It is Bility James.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
They can both sing. They both had successful music careers
because he had.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
We ain't know like any we are. Yeah, I do
feel like Billy T has had a better post career remembrance.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
You know what I mean. He died so young, He
died so young. The John John Clark just died recently. Yeah, yeah,
John Clark, who played fred Dak went to Australia and
had a huge career playing a bunch of different things
over in Australia. Yeah, so he hasn't considered Australian legend
since then. Did you ever see his great stuff?
Speaker 4 (09:50):
He do?
Speaker 3 (09:51):
He do impersonations, but not put on like he do
do anyone, but he just uses excess. I'd be like
he'd be doing an like he'd walk into this interview
show it's really funny and he sit down and he'd
be Boris Johnson, but he'd go, yeah, so I reckon,
I do remember this. Yeah, it's quite a clever, lazy
option to not learn how to do the to not
(10:11):
do the yeah in personation. But what was so brilliant?
Speaker 1 (10:13):
It's also in some ways like not lazy and more
impressive to be able to be like, I've boiled down
the esstance of this guy.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
It's not what he sounds like, it's what he says
and that's what you do. But yeah, I think I
think you're right. And you've got the Billy T. James
Award that's still floating around for comedians and the.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Towel he's very like memorable. People dress up as him. Yeah,
so yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if he took that out.
But you can go and have your vote on Instagram
or on Facebook, have your say we are I think
tomorrow's the last of the first round and then we're
into the second round.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
That's when it really heats up.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
But a Cricket News Heath Area four tiers series been
confirmed between the black Caps in Australia, with the venues
lockdown for the twenty six twenty seven summers and not
this summer coming but the one after, right, So is.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
It is it a series or so it's a series
and is it here or there? It is over there?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
So they announced their future schedule yesterday, confirming Perth, Adelaide,
Melbourne and Sydney will host the black Caps. It's the
first time since we played in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Was it the Boxing Day? Yeah, situation, but hang them
and it is it going to be? Is that Melbourne one?
The Boxing Day Test?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Oh wow, yeah, so there will be one.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
New Zealand's last four match series was a two to
one victory over England in nineteen ninety nine. Yeah. The
mcg WI hosts the traditional Boxing Day Test with us.
Last time we played that in twenty nineteen. So when
Jordy Barrett got kicked out of the grounds for making
a cup snow, that's right. Yeah, I was over there
and then it was it had been thirty two years
since we'd played one before then, yeah, and we I
(11:42):
went over there with a bunch of kiwis.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
We were cocker the hoop. We thought we might have
them and we were excited and then lovely Trenty got
that wicket in the first over and we were like yes,
and we were taunting all the Australians around us. And
then slowly because you're sitting in the same seats, and
then look the same Australians nearby, and then slowly that
day they started turning on day two, they were really
coming us. Day three, Yeah, I had to abandon Shep
(12:04):
and go to a bar nearby to watch because it
was the Australians. You're getting get absolutely heckled by a
seventy year old Australian woman who's just wrapping the keywis
to pieces. Yea handling our stupid hats. You're stoping on
the goon. Yeah, your captain an't so so clever now
are they? I know it's on time, captain.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
That was one of those test matches where, like you say,
Trent Bolt came out and he was like hooping it
around straight off the bat and we're like awesome, and
then it dawns on your way. Are they going to
be able to do this too? Yeah when they come out, Yeah,
that's exactly what happened.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
And Cowboy Blundale got one hundred. But apart from that,
it was pretty slim pickings. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I love the Boxing day test. It's good that it's
going to be coming back, but it's also weird that,
like when we announced our summer, like this summer coming up,
had the you know, the media event and blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
It was a lot made of it.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
This was just like Ozzie released their schedule for twenty
six twenty seven and was like, oh yeah, we'll play
New Zealand. It wasn't much fan fear about today.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Yeah. Right, that just shows what I was just I
was just saying, I saw twenty six twenty seven. I
was going, while we're talking about something that far away,
and I go, oh, right, because next year is twenty
twenty five, isn't it twenty twenty six? Though, these years
that looks so incredibly futuristic are actually just around the corner.
I know, as far as I'm concerned, it's still twenty nineteen.
It feels for me it's but still about nineteen ninety seven.
(13:18):
But yeah, yeah, I get what you're saying. I have it.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I have a theory that the world actually ended when
COVID happened, and that this is sort of just bullshit.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Yeah, yeah, we've been to this before, and then I
go to the Maverick thing, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, yeah,
I get it.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, now it does feel a little bit like that. So, yeah,
they're going to be playing that, but it's a long
way down the track. We've still got our own summer
cricket to get through. Yet we're going to take quick
break when we come back. We've got a plethora of
sports to get through, the Warriors, the All Blacks, and
the UFCS.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
We'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
On Saturday night, Matt Heath, You and I commentated the
All Blacks, but before we did, we both got a heavy,
heavy gupful of corma.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Didn't Oh my god, it was bubbling up all the
way through. It's interesting because I don't think I've ever
tried to broadcast after that much Indian No, and I
don't think I will again.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
No.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
I went to a place around the corner called Ravi's
not an ad, but they on a section of their
menu it's had Ravi's Secrets. Yeah right, I've got to
go Ravi's Secrets.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I got to check it out, and one of them
was called a googlely corma. I've never heard of a
googly corma. Google let the delivery, that's what I presume,
the gurglely korma. Because on the wall of this restaurant
they've got like cricketing legends.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Very accurately drawn. Except for the New Zealand you can't
work out. And I've actually every time I've been to
there rest and I've asked, who is that? Oh, I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
It's kind of looks like it actually looks like Alexander
Usak the boxer, right Hadley in there. Yeah, there's a
bit of Bears in there.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
H Anyway, it's the Bears era uniform on the guy
and it just says New Zealand cricket legend.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Well the problem is that you went for that the
googly corma. Yeah. But I independently because I was having
dinner with my kids at home and ordered and I
think tipping from just up there on New North Road,
and so independently were both absolutely because one of us
we could have got through if one of us it
was suffering the effects of over over consumption of Indian food.
(15:12):
But both of us were terribly on the back foot,
and there was a lot belching up and bubbling through
and a lot of anxiety around how close we were
to the bathrooms.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
So if you were listening and there were periods of silence,
it was both of us trying to burp off Mike
because there was about, you know, two point five letters
of corner sit in an our collective gut.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
I understand why, Like fizzy drink makes you bit. I'm
not sure where Indian food makes you bit, but it
really does. It bubbles up in.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
There not I but yours had a good little bubble
up as well on the way in because you had
a bike from home, Yeah, to get into the studio.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Yeah, because I live beside eden Park, so I to
get out of the eden Park area, which is like
basically running the cordons of a country that's been taken
over by a fascist hunter. You went through the DMZ, Yeah,
I did. And I was riding my bike and people
waving get off your bike, and I'm not getting off
my bike. What does it matter I get off a bike.
No one's here yet, you know, the crowd isn't hit
over zealous. So many road cones, so weird that I
(16:03):
ended up in my undies. Yeah here, I just had
to take my pants off. We went to the bathroom
because it's late at night. I figured no one's going
to be working still, but walking two guys on the
toilet and I'm in my undies and they're like, is
this is this? Isn't insane? Man that's come up the street.
There's a lot going on. Yeah, and I think we
put together a decent common tre ntil the end when
we we really wanted it to finish. Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
It was nineties night as well, because it was not
since nineteen ninety four had the All Blecks lost that
Eden Park. So we were asking what you wanted to
bring back from the nineties. My favorite was smacking your kids.
It was very popular. It was very popular on the
fix machine. I've forgotten about that. Smoking inside bars, bar
prices like pub prices. Is this I who was hearing
(16:47):
stories about bloody dollar shots and two our.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Beers and it sounds like we should just bring me
in the nineties. I don't know if you can, though. Yeah,
that's the problem. I think.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
So in the end, it was forty two to ten
when the game actually and like you said, the first
half thirty five points I think to three.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah, it was an.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Absolute massacre at the start. Why why was it so
much different than the game the week before?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
I can't work it out. And we talk about it
a little bits. There's something special about Eden Park. Is
it something about how we schedule the games? But Eden
Park just seems to have that effect on the All
Blacks when they suddenly stand up. But I mean it
was you couldn't you couldn't have had two different games. No,
And you know, I thought, I hate the term, but
if what felt like All Blacks were quite clinical? Yeah,
I think they just they were just they just got
(17:31):
all their systems were in place, everything was working. And
the Agi Badgies looked a bit shell shocked after that.
They were like, we might be in here and they're like,
oh no, it's the All Blacks have turned up. I
don't know who we were playing last week. Yeah, but
the All Blacks have turned up this week, and that's
never good when the All Blocks turned up.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
And they I feel like, for me, the biggest difference
was something that like it's one of these things where
you think it's too simple, that it can't be the
explanation for a professional rugby team, where you know that
what's been holding the All Blacks back these last few
years is the rushing defense has just been stifling us.
Can't just attack from anywhere, and whenever, like an armchair
critic sits there and looks at it, they just go,
(18:04):
I'll chip over the top then if that's what they're
gonna do, And then people go wow, it's actually not
that simple because of this and that. Blah blah blah.
That's exactly what we did on Saturday night. We just
chipped over the top. We fucking wasted them.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Yeah, because then you've got these big forwards that have
to turn round. Yeah, and you've got you and then
we've got our pace. You know, we've got it. We've
got all the pace coming through. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
And it's like it's just looked like one of those
cases I don't overthink it.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Yeah, and I guess it's one of those things we go, wow,
it's a bit risky because it bounce up whatever whatever,
but you know, chance you're on a few times and
it starts to pay off. Yeah, that's right. And then
suddenly the rush defense doesn't seem like it's such a
good idea because you've rushed up the balls over you.
Now you're running backwards. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
We were saying at the end of that game, we
wanted to bring the cheese at corners coming back here.
We wanted to bring the mercy rule in because for
the last ten minutes of that game they couldn't win. Yeah,
and it took half an hour, yeah to get through
that last team.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Well, it was over and then we were like, okay,
well it's finally over. And then I know we're coming
back on for a penalty. I mean, who wanted that?
I mean, you know, League sorted a lot of things out,
but just finish on the hooter. Yeah, although there have
been some of those great games where you have that
footage at the end of your team really needs to
win and then you love it, you know, like if
your team's behind and they've got the ball. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
So the next game four, the all Ax is going
to be in two weeks time. So they're now head
off to South Africa where they play South Africa back
to back over there.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
That's going to be tough Gallis Park and in Cape Town. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Have you ever been to South Africa?
Speaker 3 (19:32):
I have not been to South Africa neither. I would
love to watch a game of rugby at Ellis Park.
I mean, I'm a bit scared of Joe Burg.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
I'm terrified of Joeburg and it might because of most of.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
What I know from Joe Berg is from that movie
District eleven, District nine, District nine. Sorry, I'm mixing up
my Anger games with my District nine through.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Because Vonder movie and the Braunze. Yeah, yeah, well, and
most of what I know about Johannesburg is from people
who have moved to New Zealand from joe Burg, and
they carry with them some of the most horrific stories
you've ever heard.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah, I've heard some fricking terrible stories. So if I
could get to the ground without getting carjack, I'm all in.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I heard one of a guy that I used to
work with, and he had bars over his windows and
he woke up to this like screeching noises. What the
hell opened the curtains and these dudes had a carjack
between the bars of his windows and were like cranking
the carjack and spreading the bars apart. Jesus Christ like that.
And that was the second scariest story he had. The
(20:28):
first that he had what were called baboon spiders. I
don't know if that's there. I don't know if Edinburgh
calls them that, but that's what he was calling them.
Lived in this tree outside and he went and rented
a flame thrower, which apparently you can do in Johannesburg,
to torch the fucking baboon spiders. And he said these
flaming spiders were falling out of the tree on him,
Jesus Christ. So yeah, but I have heard that Johannesburg
(20:49):
is a great place. Oh not Johannesburg, but South Africa
is a great place to tour. Obviously he can do
the Safari situation. There are some beautiful parts of the country.
beeB was telling me, if you get the chance, go
over there because it's awesome. Oh yeah, cool, But we
won't be going this time. We will be commentating that one.
Do you think we'll win?
Speaker 3 (21:07):
I don't know. Yeah, it's a funny thing with South Africa.
They're so you know, you've got Kistuplas coming out with
two spring Boks either side of them. I feel like
there's a there's a spring in the spring Bok fandom
step after winning you know that that that Rugby World Cup,
which means that technically, depending on how you do it.
They're claiming they're the greatest team of all time because
they've won more World Cups than us. You know, well
(21:29):
for now they are. Yeah, yeah, so there is that,
and you know, just the way they're playing the game,
and you know, I mean they've been beaten Australia twice,
but the Australia kind of came back, I mean, what
does that even mean? So I don't know. I'm quite
terrified of playing them over there. So yeah, I mean
they'll do whatever it takes to win. But also they're
quite willing to lose to the All Blacks as long
(21:50):
as they win when it comes to World Cup time.
So yeah, so you know, who knows, But Raiser doesn't
need to be getting into a win lose when lose situation.
It's extreme. Although do you want this is what I
was thinking about, And I actually asked Goldie about this
the other day when he was on our show, and
I was saying, don't we want to do that thing
where we get as many caps on young players as
(22:12):
we can so by the time we get to the
World Cup they're experienced in as many situations as they can,
rather than you know, trying to trying to try to win,
just trying to win for the good. And he was like, nah,
but coming through it's you've got to be part of
a winning team. So his thing was you're trying people
out and you start becoming a part of a losing
team and then it doesn't actually really help those guys
(22:34):
losing breeds more losing, Yeah, bloeding in his opinion, and
he knows more than I do that that breeding loses.
It's not like, you know, like we don't have you know,
like a franchise. Well in the States, Well, you know,
they'll tank, they'll tank, they'll have a rebuilding phase. All
Blacks aren't allowed that. No, No, definitely.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
And one that's the other part of it is also
Razor doesn't want to lose any games. Yeah, So like, yeah,
if you're a selector or you one of the higher ups,
you probably look at it and be like, yeah, we
need to build for the future. But Ray's is going
to be like, fuck that, I need to win right now.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
And he's talked about that when he was coaching the Crusaders,
So he hated being told from the All Blacks, how
you need to rest this guy. He's like, I've got
a game to win tomorrow. Yeah, So I don't. Yeah,
I don't think they'll try and blood too many new players. Yeah,
but that's for the Fiji in San Diego games. Yeah,
that kind of thing. Ye, you mentioned Duplessi he beat
our boy is he yesterday afternoon? It was heartbreaking to watch.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
It was actually and I was actually I was like,
I see it, I see it. I see his I
think at a same he's got this because he was.
He was getting some good strikes and stuff, but it's
only a matter of duple get too close and he
gets you. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
I was saying this morning on the Matt and Jerry
Show available We're all good radio shows, sold that it
was like a boss fight in a video game, where
as he had the boss down to the last little bit. Yeah,
and one more attack would have finished him off. So
he threw the game plan out the window, and then
he got caught. Yeah, he got his neck crying.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
You don't run around avoiding anything until one of his
eyes starts flashing. Yeah, and then you shoot at that.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Go go, go, go, start button mashing, and then then stop.
You just go back to avoiding all the things that
are coming your way after that.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
It was his fifth loss, and they've all gone the
exact same way. He was winning the fight right up
until he lost it.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Yeah. It's heartbreaking to watch, yeah, because like he's so good,
it's not like the way he fights. I find particularly
probably because I care more, but where you just I
don't care if he wins boring by just standing back
and kicking, kicking dude in the shins over and over
again until the guy can't take it anymore. I don't
mind that. Yeah, but that's not the way the UFC works.
(24:38):
You know, you gotta go, you gotta impressed. Yeah, you've
got to be exciting, you do.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
But also that's you know, that's what he wants. He
wants the highlight knockout. Yeah, kicking in the teeth and
then he's out. Yeah, but two out of three Kai
Kutter France, he won first round knockout. I think he's
got thirteen of them now, which is outrageous. Dan Hooker
had one of the bloodiest batteries. Man, he got sucked
up for a dude that won.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Well, I saw a slow mo who just takes one
totally in the face. It didn't even look. It doesn't look.
He just counters and I so, well, okay, the guy's going, okay,
so I've punched you in the face, and you're going
to hold the stair and then punch me in the face. Yeah,
it seems like cheating.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
It ruins the game plan because his opponent would have
been like, if I throw this punch he's going to
have to dodge this way and then I can do this.
It's like, what if he just stands here and takes
it now, Yeah, your game plans out the window if
we're to do by the name of mateous gam rot,
which sounded like something your nan might get, like she's
got terrible game.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Rock's got gamero.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
You go around and see that he's got gamera a moment,
but yeah, and the highlight of the evening was when
he turned to his corner and said, I love this
ship always. I love this ship, blood passing out of
his face. Yeah, what a psycho. And you know people
have I see all these stories when after the UFC
cards saying you know it's too many hidden Oh bas
(26:00):
bad for the sport.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
How long are they going to allow this to go?
Speaker 1 (26:03):
And it's like, if the UFC didn't exist, Dan Hooker
will be working down at your local supermarket, you know
what I mean, be grateful that the UFC that he
is an outlet for you, Yeah, because he's like that. Yeah,
so if he doesn't have an outlet for it, yeah,
you know he's he's going to be fighting somewhere, so
(26:23):
we might as well give him a pat of cage
to do it. Yeah, God bless him. Two out of
three and I think again. Jerry asked me this morning
on the Matt Jerry Show available we're all good radio
shows are sold. What's next for is he? And I
think this is how I think it's gonna work. Strickland
already has the right for the title fight next, so
that'll be Strickland versus Duplice.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
I think the loser of that faces is he and
I think it's Strickland, which is a good storyline because
he was the last dude to beat he is. He
beats Strickland, then he gets his rematch worth Duplice for
the title.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
I think he wins that wins the title retire. Yeah,
I mean that is the narrative, that's the arc that
I mean. That would be so freaking good. That's what
I want. Yeah, that's what that That's what I want,
And that's what the story wants. Yes, from our perspective, Yeah,
that's right. But yees, so it's lined up for that,
it is. Yeah, and that's that's why he lost the fight.
(27:17):
Why Well, he was saying, I feel that he's a
big believer in destiny. Yeah, and he's going, I've had
these losses before and there's always a reason for them.
And I've had these things happened in my life and
there's a reason, and so that reason will become apparent. Yeah,
and so let's hope the reason comes apparent because it
was a bitter sort of roadman, it was a bit
of it was a bit of story arc into retirement.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Yeah, one hundred percent. Speaking of story arcs into retirement.
That's a segue for young broadcasters at home.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
S J farewell to it.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
It's well, it began on Friday. Yeah, the Warriors got
humped in the end.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
It was a tough one.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
He did score though, which is good.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Yep. You've got to see the big smile across the
across the touch line. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
And now that we statistically, mathematically as logically can't make
the top eight anymore, it is entirely just the Shawn
Johnson farewell too.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
Now.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yeah, and it starts this Friday against the Bulldogs at home.
It's the last time he'll ever play at Mount Smart.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
It's going to be beautiful. You'll be heading along with
you up, hitting along. The thing is actually mash. He
bought tickets like right at the start of the season,
he targeted that this game. Really but yeah, the thing is,
it's got to speaking of stories, come on, come on, Yeah,
we've got like a big one at home Bulldogs. I mean,
I mean the ultimate retirement story is obviously winning the
(28:33):
Grand Final for the first time. Yeah, ultimately, but come on,
just give us a little bit of that. Give us
a beautiful night out at Gohrd Stadium. Yeah, at least
if we can beat them, yeah, the Bulldogs. If Sean
Johnson scores, the place will go blistered. Yeah. And you
can't sell it out anymore than it's sold out. No,
but everyone there is going to be a goot of
(28:54):
good wall Unlike those manly assholes that were booing, I
don't know why they were doing. What's the problem with
he's out.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
The only way I could conceivably skin it, in my
mind is that booing that he's retiring, that they want
to see him continue.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
You need to you need to hold of a sign
when you're saying that, yeahoo, this is a positive booth.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
This is.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
So yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
That is this Friday against the Bulldogs. I just if
he scores, I'm looking forward to that more than anything.
Save them off for five minutes left to go overrun
can applaud him, you know, stop the game down, celebrate
Shawn Johnson and then right off into the sunset game
and then next year's are you give them a taste
of keew we one more quick break, We'll come back
a little bit of yours please.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yours please, brought you by Leader home of the.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Just the three of them to get through so far
today Heath first call it yours please?
Speaker 4 (29:51):
You can fellows, just talking about the boxing Olympics. Why
is it not going to be in the Olympics next time?
It's strange it is the boxing just kind of like
WWWE with the SmackDown versus raw, IBF, FIRS WBF, Mattroom
versus showroom or whatever the other one. There's days and
there's just a whole bunch of different federations and it's
(30:13):
all about who's fuckus s Dick Swaying in the biggest anyway.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
But the rock all right, I think essentially with them.
So I don't know the boxing was out of the
next Olympics. Well, it hasn't been confirmed, right, I Mean.
The biggest problem with why boxing has to be amateur
at the Olympics is because it takes about two years
to convince anyone to fight anyone when they're at the
top of their game.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Because ah, that's a good point.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
I mean, like the reason why the UFC is so
successful at the moment because you just you know, the
fights just have to happen. Yeah, but boxing is a
sport where people want to want to compete in it
less than any other sport in the world. You know,
my sports a weekend, week out, you know what's happening.
Boxing is like no, protect the yeah, protect the O,
protect the payday. Don't fight anyone that is below you
(31:01):
but has a chance of you know, tagging you. Yeah,
you know, there's there's so much politics, there's so much
money in the big in the big fights. So if
any support you just want, like it would take eight.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Years to organize professional that's the Olympics because no one
wants to lose. So we see dudes who are twenty
eight and er.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Yeah, it's still fighting bums trying to make it worthwhile
one day.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Yeah, so that's why they wouldn't want to do that.
So Cayson Fury doesn't want to get sparked out by
some no name and.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Yeah, there's some amateur that's coming through that hasn't paid,
has incredibly corrupt jews to get to get up through
the track to fight.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Yeah, that is a great point. I mean there's also
the w B O, I B F as well as
like who whose Olympics is it?
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Yeah? Yeah, folded into the UFC. Yeah, I mean they've
got a huge problem with the UFC popping up and
just so often fights that feel like the most important
thing that's happened. You know, it's like suddenly it comes around,
you know, it's three or five, and you're like, oh
my god, that's so important, and you're talking about I've
got to go to the pub. Yeah, your girlfriend's going.
You were just saying that was the most important thing ever, like.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Two weeks ago, weeks ago, it was, it was, it was,
and now is this Yeah, yeah, it's I love that
UFC and MMA just destroyed any bullshit like martial arts. Yeah,
anyone that was doing tay chi or tibo or any
of that kind of stuff and then they just got
punch right in the snout that Oh yeah. I've also
(32:26):
got a theory Judo champion, Yeah, gets kicked in the teeth.
I've also got a theory of how you know how
sometimes it can get really boring when they're like cuddling
up against the cage on the ground and you've always
got that one made who understands a little bit about grappling,
and they're like, no, well, what he's doing here? It
needs to get the underhooks in the fucking blah blah blah.
What if it's boring, I feel like I know how
to fix it, and it would be one rule change,
(32:49):
and it's allow headbuts, because if you're lying all over
me and I just fucking yeah, give you the old
Boston kiss. Yeah, you can't lie all over me anymore. Yeah,
I reckon the head butt had fixed the boring part of.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
You know, all revolves out of when everything was okay,
you know initially just you know, there wasn't there wasn't
a length of amount of rounds. It was just till
someone was done. Yeah, you know, and there was even
at one point we're allowing groin shots yep. So it
wouldn't be the end of the world. I mean, like
you just go back a little nod back to the past.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Yeah, the early days of MMA of us, so we're
ridiculous you'd have a dude in like wrestling boots, fighting someone.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
In a gee.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
There was one guy in the early days who would
have one boxing glove and one mma glove. There's just
all sorts of random shit going on back in the day.
And eventually they were like, what parts of this are
too ridiculous? What parts are too violent? And then they
boiled it down to what we've got today.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Yeah, but head bats was one that went and groin
shots headbuds. I don't think there was ever allowed.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Eye gouging was never allowed.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
I think there was gouging was allowed us.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Yeah, I mean I had to submission by written a detachment.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Call it here. Your suppose he likes stay from the journey,
A lot of the stuffle?
Speaker 5 (34:12):
How you love the hontory you?
Speaker 3 (34:15):
I watched watch the commentary with them, and she didn't
know what the fucking.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Who is sucking idiots?
Speaker 5 (34:25):
Who is who is stupid? Cool?
Speaker 3 (34:28):
I say, you know it's a stupid I was married to.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Get it.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
I think I think you'll both be right. I think
you can enjoy it. I think she's got some good points.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
I think a lot of stuff, I think a lot
of stuff that we enjoy is absolutely ridiculous and I've
always said that the biggest defense the essay is like, yeah,
this is stupid when people commenting just comment out the
game that exists.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Yeah, well that's the thing. There's other options.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Well, we even talked about it in the when the
last five minutes of that game took half an hour
to get through. Yeah, we're like, how the fucking nisbe marsh,
You're getting.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
On with it.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
At least at least we're playing the talking about freckle.
We've got the Friends theme playing. We've got a lot,
We've got a lot to deal with. You were in
a head dress at one point.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
It's like we had of it going on.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Yeah, Like, it's hard to defend when I was wearing
like a huge what do you call that? It's sort
of a like a Mardi Gras Mardi Gras feather bower
type headgear, and someone's looking at that that comes up
on the screen and go this is stupid. It's like, well, yeah, yeah,
it's so stupid.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
So some of the dumbest shit ever I find it.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
But it's true. You're right, you're not you're not saying
something that's not true. No, that's right. It is ridiculous.
This is correct.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
That it is stupid, but if you enjoy it, then
keep listening.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Yeah. Well, I mean there was the week before we
me and glam were doing the game, and we've talked
about it this how due to some kind of complexities
with the Olympics, we ended up being the main commentary
for a lot of clubs and corporate boxes and pubs
and stuff. And then I can kind of see the
anger because they have chosen to watch the mainstream missionary
(36:02):
musician coverage and we were letting off the most annoying
alarms sound never.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Yeah, you know, and subsequently lanes away this week. Yeah,
do your own research on that.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Yeah. And then I'm going if you don't like it,
piss off to the other channels, like we can't, we can't,
you know, I.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Don't know where the other channel. How it works, it's
fifteen Olympic channels. Yeah, and we're gonna we're just watching
South Africa Australia and it was normal Rugby. Now you
muppets are on. I can kind of get that complaint. Yeah,
so I agree with both of those people. One last
call here, call of yours.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
Plase Mooning Fellas Ben long Johnson from Coastal Otago here. Hey,
you just wondering what it'd kill sky who was broadcast
in the Union or the league just to put the
teams one lost record underneath your names. They do it
in the NFL, and it's great to get you You on,
tool Poppy on and support the underdog any who, anyone
(36:51):
north of the way tech.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
I reckon.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
That's ninety nine percent of the country's It's yeah, that's
an aggressive agreesive call there.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Yeah, there's a lot of things we don't do that that. Yeah,
that just seem like basics.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
I find myself getting caught out when I'm commentating Super
Rugby because we'll be commentating a game between like the
Crusaders and the Drawer, and then you were like the
Drawer not doing too well this this year, and then
Beauty the fourth on the table. Yeah, something like that, like, hey,
help us out.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Yeah, we do no research for this. Yeah that that
that is a stat that that how many and oh
yeah you're you know whatever you are is a hugely
important thing. I guess though, so that it doesn't doesn't
mean much in Super Ugby at the table yeah, because
that gets pretty confusing. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
And then also like so if it's the Rugby Championship
what we want to know?
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Yeah, oh and one.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Yeah, I still think that's a good stat to have
the Yeah, I do too.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Yeah, I mean, I mean it does make a difference
to Super rag when SA it doesn't make a difference
to the table, but it just seems everyone gets through
and I yeah it does. So we go for ages
and then basically what like you know, for me that
follows the island as I'm like Jesus terrible season, it's like,
oh you you're actually looking pretty good, are you? Are
you through?
Speaker 1 (37:58):
You know why we don't do us right, It's because
it's in like the NBA, it's wins first losses, that's
how you get into the top eight for match conference.
But in Super Rugby there's so much bonus point shenanigans, right,
it actually doesn't matter who's Yeah that's true.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Yeah, yeah, but it's it's like an easy look at
at how the season going. Yeah, you know, have you
won more than you've lost? Yeah, you're if you're like
zero to nine, then you can easily see that the
season's not going well, not going your way. But you're
five and five, then you go, okay, well, these season's
going yeah, reasonably were like like these.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Season's fifty to fifty and also like subsequently we should
probably been the whole convoluted points system anyway and just
have wins verst losses. Yeah, because I know that it
was brought in to stop the blowouts, but it hasn't. No,
so just go wins first losses. Yeah, why not? Oh
great call. Thank you very much for that. Thank you
very much for joining us this morning, Heath. That is
your fifteenth podcast of the week already and it's only Monday. Yeah,
(38:56):
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Quick posture check because all episodes are now on YouTube,
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good man, we almost at double digits last week.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
So we are coming for you, mister beasts. Yeah, I
see the biggest What did he get canceled?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Well, there's a lot going on with mister Beast at
the moment I said, I don't want to unpack it.
There's accusations of unsanctioned lotteries. Is a hasty anyway, let's
not get into it.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
It's not unpacked mister beast anyway. Oh, it sounds like
he's exposed. Then we could take him out. Yeah, yeah,
we're coming for you, mister beast.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
He still seems to beginning about seventy five to one
hundred and fifty million views on each poard, but there
you go.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yeah, but at one point, you know, he was getting
ten yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
So yeah, at one point yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
We're taking over this YouTube game, one viewer at a time,
and if you want to be the eleventh go and
check it out right now on YouTube. The Greatest New
Zealander which started as one of the all time owned
goals from the ACC because we started this bracket during
the Olympics. Was you and I talking about who is
the Greatest New Zealander of all time?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Yeah? That's right, we did, didn't we.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yeah, And it was like, well, let's put it to
the test, let's find out. And so we're still chewing
our way through round one. Round one's almost done. Stacy
Jones faced Simon Manoring on Friday. Oh wow, yeah, perfect
time because the Warriors were playing. Stacy Jones smashed Simon Mannering.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah, I thought that would happen. Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I think Stacy's just a bit more of like a
club legend.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
You don't really hear anything of Simon Minoring.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Nah, it's just I mean, I mean, you see, we
see Stacey every week, don't we.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, rolling around rolling durriies and the coaches box.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
And we'll get into the Warriors down the track as well.
Jonah came up against Colin Meads on Saturday as well,
that's got to be Jonah, right, it was Jonah by
a mile, and I think primarily because there's more footage. Yeah,
more of a global superstar. Yeah, I see there's going
to be a documentary now out of about Jonah.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
We're talking about it the other day.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I think that Rugby needs us more than anything they
made that like Six Nations one, but.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah, no, it doesn't and needs it. Although I mentioned
like I don't want to go deeply, but there always
seems to be family issues around any time Jonah's doing anything.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Well, that's why the documentary hadn't come out because there
was a whole kerfuffle about who owns what?
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah, seems to do. It always seems to pop up,
doesn't it.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Well, I think, I think, and we did talk about
it a Friday, But I feel like it's something to
do with he lift his estate to his lawyer.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
But then his family's just like what the fuck? He's
our Like, he's our family. You can't just decide what
to do with his stuff.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah, and look, I don't know all the details, so
this is purely speculation. But imagine a lawyer would like
legal stuff to keep rolling through.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah, and that's exactly what's going on.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I think, so the state. But look, look, be interesting
to see the percentage of the state that goes to
legal fees.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah, anyway, Look, let's not go down there.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
It's not walk into something I know absolutely nothing about.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
No, what I do now is Jonah Smash Colm Meads
on Saturday, and then yesterday it was the motorsports matchup.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
This is a great one.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Bruce McClaren taking on John Britton.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I'm gonna say McLaren's still around and out an air
consciousness a bit more.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, And I think yeah, because I don't. I can't
remember the last time I saw a Britain bike. No, No,
but I've seen mclarence.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah, I've seen McLaren's every every day when I'm riding
to work.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I'm pretty sure Israel to Sonia drives on Yeah right, yeah, yeah,
because there's that dealership, isn't there.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Yeah, there's a McLaren deal dealership just on Great North Road.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
My bus goes past that and it's right next to
the Lamborghini dealership as well. And nothing makes you feel
more povo than driving past the McLaren shop on the bus.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Although I saw someone driving in a bright orange like
road cone colored Lamborghini with the number plate Lambo and
the weekend when I was driving back from the North Shore,
and I thought, I think, I don't think there's a
more humiliating setup than a bright orange Lamborghinni with Lambeau
for the number plate. Like I said, a billionaere playing
a practical joke on his son or his wife, Like
(04:08):
I guess my head isn't in that space where I thought,
you take away all the cool of your Lambeau with
the bright orange noess and then having Lambau on it. Yeah,
like you should be throwing away that it's a Lamborghini.
Yes you want to be like you want to look
like Batman going through the night.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Look, you couldn't give a shit that it's a Lamberge.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Yeah yeah, by putting a lamb on it, you give
too much of a shit. Also, so you're equally big
upping yourself but accidentally diminishing yourself at the same time.
I went into a deep spiral trying to work out
what the story was behind having a bright orange Lamborghinni
with Lambeau as the number plate.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
It's it's desperate behavior. I wonder if that person rented
that Lambeau.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
You know what I mean? Ah, God, I didn't think
of that. It's probably a rental Lamborghini. Lamborghini, they probably
don't own it. Yeah, of course, what's this same makes sense?
If that's okay, then that's fine because it's just for fun.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
So the dealership's got it and that Lambeau on the
thing because you know, when you're in Paris, and we
were just in Paris recently, and they always try and
get you to get into a Lamborghini and drive it,
Like do you want to take this Lamborghini around the block. Yeah,
it feels like a scam, but I can't figure out
what the scam is. Yeah, so they crash into you
when you get around the corner, and now all of
a sudden they're on the hook for three quarters of
a million dollars.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, maybe that's right, Like, yeah, don't worry about that
signing that they don't worry the insurance think okay, yeah, yeah,
but if it costs that much to repair it out
of you, is it the repair shop that's running the scam?
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yeah, some sort of insurance slash repair shop situation. Yeah,
that's all I remember of going to the Eiffel Tower.
As you walk in there and there's the duds who
are trying to sell you the little trinkets. Yeah, and
they've all got there. They're out on a blanket. And
then when the cops come past, they packed their blanket
up and run. And then there's the guy who's trying
to get you in the lambo. I was like, I
know what his scam is. What's the lambo scam? What
are you trying to do to me?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
We got scammed by a lambo scam. It was more
like in competence, you know, when Jeremy Jeremy used to
make those mikes minutes and we decided to shoot the
titles the puppet pulling up in a Lamborghini. Yeah, so
we thought it'd be cool. And then an in turn
was putt in charge of renting the Lamborghini and came
(06:11):
back and see it's five hundred bucks all right, someone
was five hundred bucks. Okay, yeah, okay, And then the
bill came in it was five thousand dollars for the
Oh Jesus for the time, and I don't know, I
like I felt for the in turn. It was a
massive cock like a massive cock up. But I think
that was the end of anything fun that you got
(06:32):
to do for a year after that, because the five
thousand dollar fun budget, it's just been throwing at this
average gag or the puppet pulling up in a Lamborghini.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
He's gonna say, when I started, there was absolutely no budget.
So I presume that's what's happened to you. You just
came in just after that, because like, can I have
fifty bucks at the fuck?
Speaker 4 (06:46):
No?
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yeah, I think one of actually Kate Britain had to
buy that howk that's behind you with their own money.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
That controversial hawk. But it's like, you know the shoe bomber,
the guy that put the shoe on the floor. You know,
he did a bad thing, but the amount of damn
and she did to people going forward still having to
take their boots ruined it. In turn, with that Lambo,
we meant that everyone's expenses expenditure was looked over. Yeah,
you know, he the repercussions for that Lambo and Son
(07:11):
it was still with us.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I once wracked up about sixteen thousand dollars in fraudulent
credit card charges on a company credit card, and that's
why I'm now no longer allowed to have a company
credit card at this place, at this vary establishment.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah, so you racked them up with someone knicked to
your credit card number.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Someone must have nicked that I had been used to
book funnily enough flights for you and Jerry too. I
want to say, did you guys go to Japan?
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I think we did at one point.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, either Japan or Chicago. And I did buy flights
for that, and somehow in that they got hold of
it and then bought another sixteen thousand dollars worth of
fraudulent flights, and so I sent it up. We've obviously
got a finance department here at the company, and says
I said, hey, I've been scanned. Here's my card, he's
all of the email stuff that I have, blah blah blah.
(07:57):
And they said, sweet, can you look into it that
now you're the you're the finance department, you look into it.
And they emailed me every day for like six months
saying where did you get to it?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
On this?
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I was like, hey, once again, I'm not going to
look into this. You're the finance department, you look into it.
I'm a promos guy, I'll make dumb promos.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
I just said to remember that trip. So it was
me and Jerry were heading up to Japan and then
g Lane turned up, and then g Lane was staying
in the same hotel as us. You don't think g
Lane jumped on there and booked his own flights on
the back of your credit card? Oh my god?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Because why was he there? Why was he there? I
remember this now?
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Why was he there for a radio Hedeki?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I think Tian Yeah, I think it was an all work,
no play, very important business trip to Japan. Then the
next thing I see, you guys are dressed up. Is
Mario Kartz riding around the streets of Tokyo and g
Lane's there.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yeah, we might need to reopen that investigation you never started.
And I footed the bill.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
See if only I had to put the smallest bit
of you know, effort into looking into that. So yeah,
Brecel Clara as long short of all of that, he
smashed John Britton yesterday on Sunday. Today's one I've already forgotten.
I believe it's cricket. Gonna have a look on the
old It's Bob.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
It's not cricket.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
It's bloody Billy T. James' Free Deack.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Oh wow, the race Wark Jesus. That's an interesting one.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
It is Bility James.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
They can both sing. They both had successful music careers
because he had.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
We ain't know like any we are. Yeah, I do
feel like Billy T has had a better post career remembrance.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
You know what I mean. He died so young, He
died so young. The John John Clark just died recently. Yeah, yeah,
John Clark, who played fred Dak went to Australia and
had a huge career playing a bunch of different things
over in Australia. Yeah, so he hasn't considered Australian legend
since then. Did you ever see his great stuff?
Speaker 4 (09:50):
He do?
Speaker 3 (09:51):
He do impersonations, but not put on like he do
do anyone, but he just uses excess. I'd be like
he'd be doing an like he'd walk into this interview
show it's really funny and he sit down and he'd
be Boris Johnson, but he'd go, yeah, so I reckon,
I do remember this. Yeah, it's quite a clever, lazy
option to not learn how to do the to not
(10:11):
do the yeah in personation. But what was so brilliant?
Speaker 1 (10:13):
It's also in some ways like not lazy and more
impressive to be able to be like, I've boiled down
the esstance of this guy.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
It's not what he sounds like, it's what he says
and that's what you do. But yeah, I think I
think you're right. And you've got the Billy T. James
Award that's still floating around for comedians and the.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Towel he's very like memorable. People dress up as him. Yeah,
so yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if he took that out.
But you can go and have your vote on Instagram
or on Facebook, have your say we are I think
tomorrow's the last of the first round and then we're
into the second round.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
That's when it really heats up.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
But a Cricket News Heath Area four tiers series been
confirmed between the black Caps in Australia, with the venues
lockdown for the twenty six twenty seven summers and not
this summer coming but the one after, right, So is.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
It is it a series or so it's a series
and is it here or there? It is over there?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
So they announced their future schedule yesterday, confirming Perth, Adelaide,
Melbourne and Sydney will host the black Caps. It's the
first time since we played in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Was it the Boxing Day? Yeah, situation, but hang them
and it is it going to be? Is that Melbourne one?
The Boxing Day Test?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Oh wow, yeah, so there will be one.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
New Zealand's last four match series was a two to
one victory over England in nineteen ninety nine. Yeah. The
mcg WI hosts the traditional Boxing Day Test with us.
Last time we played that in twenty nineteen. So when
Jordy Barrett got kicked out of the grounds for making
a cup snow, that's right. Yeah, I was over there
and then it was it had been thirty two years
since we'd played one before then, yeah, and we I
(11:42):
went over there with a bunch of kiwis.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
We were cocker the hoop. We thought we might have
them and we were excited and then lovely Trenty got
that wicket in the first over and we were like yes,
and we were taunting all the Australians around us. And
then slowly because you're sitting in the same seats, and
then look the same Australians nearby, and then slowly that
day they started turning on day two, they were really
coming us. Day three, Yeah, I had to abandon Shep
(12:04):
and go to a bar nearby to watch because it
was the Australians. You're getting get absolutely heckled by a
seventy year old Australian woman who's just wrapping the keywis
to pieces. Yea handling our stupid hats. You're stoping on
the goon. Yeah, your captain an't so so clever now
are they? I know it's on time, captain.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
That was one of those test matches where, like you say,
Trent Bolt came out and he was like hooping it
around straight off the bat and we're like awesome, and
then it dawns on your way. Are they going to
be able to do this too? Yeah when they come out, Yeah,
that's exactly what happened.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
And Cowboy Blundale got one hundred. But apart from that,
it was pretty slim pickings. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I love the Boxing day test. It's good that it's
going to be coming back, but it's also weird that,
like when we announced our summer, like this summer coming up,
had the you know, the media event and blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
It was a lot made of it.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
This was just like Ozzie released their schedule for twenty
six twenty seven and was like, oh yeah, we'll play
New Zealand. It wasn't much fan fear about today.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Yeah. Right, that just shows what I was just I
was just saying, I saw twenty six twenty seven. I
was going, while we're talking about something that far away,
and I go, oh, right, because next year is twenty
twenty five, isn't it twenty twenty six? Though, these years
that looks so incredibly futuristic are actually just around the corner.
I know, as far as I'm concerned, it's still twenty nineteen.
It feels for me it's but still about nineteen ninety seven.
(13:18):
But yeah, yeah, I get what you're saying. I have it.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I have a theory that the world actually ended when
COVID happened, and that this is sort of just bullshit.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Yeah, yeah, we've been to this before, and then I
go to the Maverick thing, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, yeah,
I get it.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, now it does feel a little bit like that. So, yeah,
they're going to be playing that, but it's a long
way down the track. We've still got our own summer
cricket to get through. Yet we're going to take quick
break when we come back. We've got a plethora of
sports to get through, the Warriors, the All Blacks, and
the UFCS.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
We'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
On Saturday night, Matt Heath, You and I commentated the
All Blacks, but before we did, we both got a heavy,
heavy gupful of corma.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Didn't Oh my god, it was bubbling up all the
way through. It's interesting because I don't think I've ever
tried to broadcast after that much Indian No, and I
don't think I will again.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
No.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
I went to a place around the corner called Ravi's
not an ad, but they on a section of their
menu it's had Ravi's Secrets. Yeah right, I've got to
go Ravi's Secrets.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I got to check it out, and one of them
was called a googlely corma. I've never heard of a
googly corma. Google let the delivery, that's what I presume,
the gurglely korma. Because on the wall of this restaurant
they've got like cricketing legends.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Very accurately drawn. Except for the New Zealand you can't
work out. And I've actually every time I've been to
there rest and I've asked, who is that? Oh, I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
It's kind of looks like it actually looks like Alexander
Usak the boxer, right Hadley in there. Yeah, there's a
bit of Bears in there.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
H Anyway, it's the Bears era uniform on the guy
and it just says New Zealand cricket legend.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Well the problem is that you went for that the
googly corma. Yeah. But I independently because I was having
dinner with my kids at home and ordered and I
think tipping from just up there on New North Road,
and so independently were both absolutely because one of us
we could have got through if one of us it
was suffering the effects of over over consumption of Indian food.
(15:12):
But both of us were terribly on the back foot,
and there was a lot belching up and bubbling through
and a lot of anxiety around how close we were
to the bathrooms.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
So if you were listening and there were periods of silence,
it was both of us trying to burp off Mike
because there was about, you know, two point five letters
of corner sit in an our collective gut.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
I understand why, Like fizzy drink makes you bit. I'm
not sure where Indian food makes you bit, but it
really does. It bubbles up in.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
There not I but yours had a good little bubble
up as well on the way in because you had
a bike from home, Yeah, to get into the studio.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Yeah, because I live beside eden Park, so I to
get out of the eden Park area, which is like
basically running the cordons of a country that's been taken
over by a fascist hunter. You went through the DMZ, Yeah,
I did. And I was riding my bike and people
waving get off your bike, and I'm not getting off
my bike. What does it matter I get off a bike.
No one's here yet, you know, the crowd isn't hit
over zealous. So many road cones, so weird that I
(16:03):
ended up in my undies. Yeah here, I just had
to take my pants off. We went to the bathroom
because it's late at night. I figured no one's going
to be working still, but walking two guys on the
toilet and I'm in my undies and they're like, is
this is this? Isn't insane? Man that's come up the street.
There's a lot going on. Yeah, and I think we
put together a decent common tre ntil the end when
we we really wanted it to finish. Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
It was nineties night as well, because it was not
since nineteen ninety four had the All Blecks lost that
Eden Park. So we were asking what you wanted to
bring back from the nineties. My favorite was smacking your kids.
It was very popular. It was very popular on the
fix machine. I've forgotten about that. Smoking inside bars, bar
prices like pub prices. Is this I who was hearing
(16:47):
stories about bloody dollar shots and two our.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Beers and it sounds like we should just bring me
in the nineties. I don't know if you can, though. Yeah,
that's the problem. I think.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
So in the end, it was forty two to ten
when the game actually and like you said, the first
half thirty five points I think to three.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah, it was an.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Absolute massacre at the start. Why why was it so
much different than the game the week before?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
I can't work it out. And we talk about it
a little bits. There's something special about Eden Park. Is
it something about how we schedule the games? But Eden
Park just seems to have that effect on the All
Blacks when they suddenly stand up. But I mean it
was you couldn't you couldn't have had two different games. No,
And you know, I thought, I hate the term, but
if what felt like All Blacks were quite clinical? Yeah,
I think they just they were just they just got
(17:31):
all their systems were in place, everything was working. And
the Agi Badgies looked a bit shell shocked after that.
They were like, we might be in here and they're like,
oh no, it's the All Blacks have turned up. I
don't know who we were playing last week. Yeah, but
the All Blacks have turned up this week, and that's
never good when the All Blocks turned up.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
And they I feel like, for me, the biggest difference
was something that like it's one of these things where
you think it's too simple, that it can't be the
explanation for a professional rugby team, where you know that
what's been holding the All Blacks back these last few
years is the rushing defense has just been stifling us.
Can't just attack from anywhere, and whenever, like an armchair
critic sits there and looks at it, they just go,
(18:04):
I'll chip over the top then if that's what they're
gonna do, And then people go wow, it's actually not
that simple because of this and that. Blah blah blah.
That's exactly what we did on Saturday night. We just
chipped over the top. We fucking wasted them.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Yeah, because then you've got these big forwards that have
to turn round. Yeah, and you've got you and then
we've got our pace. You know, we've got it. We've
got all the pace coming through. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
And it's like it's just looked like one of those
cases I don't overthink it.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Yeah, and I guess it's one of those things we go, wow,
it's a bit risky because it bounce up whatever whatever,
but you know, chance you're on a few times and
it starts to pay off. Yeah, that's right. And then
suddenly the rush defense doesn't seem like it's such a
good idea because you've rushed up the balls over you.
Now you're running backwards. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
We were saying at the end of that game, we
wanted to bring the cheese at corners coming back here.
We wanted to bring the mercy rule in because for
the last ten minutes of that game they couldn't win. Yeah,
and it took half an hour, yeah to get through
that last team.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Well, it was over and then we were like, okay,
well it's finally over. And then I know we're coming
back on for a penalty. I mean, who wanted that?
I mean, you know, League sorted a lot of things out,
but just finish on the hooter. Yeah, although there have
been some of those great games where you have that
footage at the end of your team really needs to
win and then you love it, you know, like if
your team's behind and they've got the ball. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
So the next game four, the all Ax is going
to be in two weeks time. So they're now head
off to South Africa where they play South Africa back
to back over there.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
That's going to be tough Gallis Park and in Cape Town. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Have you ever been to South Africa?
Speaker 3 (19:32):
I have not been to South Africa neither. I would
love to watch a game of rugby at Ellis Park.
I mean, I'm a bit scared of Joe Burg.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
I'm terrified of Joeburg and it might because of most of.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
What I know from Joe Berg is from that movie
District eleven, District nine, District nine. Sorry, I'm mixing up
my Anger games with my District nine through.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Because Vonder movie and the Braunze. Yeah, yeah, well, and
most of what I know about Johannesburg is from people
who have moved to New Zealand from joe Burg, and
they carry with them some of the most horrific stories
you've ever heard.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah, I've heard some fricking terrible stories. So if I
could get to the ground without getting carjack, I'm all in.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I heard one of a guy that I used to
work with, and he had bars over his windows and
he woke up to this like screeching noises. What the
hell opened the curtains and these dudes had a carjack
between the bars of his windows and were like cranking
the carjack and spreading the bars apart. Jesus Christ like that.
And that was the second scariest story he had. The
(20:28):
first that he had what were called baboon spiders. I
don't know if that's there. I don't know if Edinburgh
calls them that, but that's what he was calling them.
Lived in this tree outside and he went and rented
a flame thrower, which apparently you can do in Johannesburg,
to torch the fucking baboon spiders. And he said these
flaming spiders were falling out of the tree on him,
Jesus Christ. So yeah, but I have heard that Johannesburg
(20:49):
is a great place. Oh not Johannesburg, but South Africa
is a great place to tour. Obviously he can do
the Safari situation. There are some beautiful parts of the country.
beeB was telling me, if you get the chance, go
over there because it's awesome. Oh yeah, cool, But we
won't be going this time. We will be commentating that one.
Do you think we'll win?
Speaker 3 (21:07):
I don't know. Yeah, it's a funny thing with South Africa.
They're so you know, you've got Kistuplas coming out with
two spring Boks either side of them. I feel like
there's a there's a spring in the spring Bok fandom
step after winning you know that that that Rugby World Cup,
which means that technically, depending on how you do it.
They're claiming they're the greatest team of all time because
they've won more World Cups than us. You know, well
(21:29):
for now they are. Yeah, yeah, so there is that,
and you know, just the way they're playing the game,
and you know, I mean they've been beaten Australia twice,
but the Australia kind of came back, I mean, what
does that even mean? So I don't know. I'm quite
terrified of playing them over there. So yeah, I mean
they'll do whatever it takes to win. But also they're
quite willing to lose to the All Blacks as long
(21:50):
as they win when it comes to World Cup time.
So yeah, so you know, who knows, But Raiser doesn't
need to be getting into a win lose when lose situation.
It's extreme. Although do you want this is what I
was thinking about, And I actually asked Goldie about this
the other day when he was on our show, and
I was saying, don't we want to do that thing
where we get as many caps on young players as
(22:12):
we can so by the time we get to the
World Cup they're experienced in as many situations as they can,
rather than you know, trying to trying to try to win,
just trying to win for the good. And he was like, nah,
but coming through it's you've got to be part of
a winning team. So his thing was you're trying people
out and you start becoming a part of a losing
team and then it doesn't actually really help those guys
(22:34):
losing breeds more losing, Yeah, bloeding in his opinion, and
he knows more than I do that that breeding loses.
It's not like, you know, like we don't have you know,
like a franchise. Well in the States, Well, you know,
they'll tank, they'll tank, they'll have a rebuilding phase. All
Blacks aren't allowed that. No, No, definitely.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
And one that's the other part of it is also
Razor doesn't want to lose any games. Yeah, So like, yeah,
if you're a selector or you one of the higher ups,
you probably look at it and be like, yeah, we
need to build for the future. But Ray's is going
to be like, fuck that, I need to win right now.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
And he's talked about that when he was coaching the Crusaders,
So he hated being told from the All Blacks, how
you need to rest this guy. He's like, I've got
a game to win tomorrow. Yeah, So I don't. Yeah,
I don't think they'll try and blood too many new players. Yeah,
but that's for the Fiji in San Diego games. Yeah,
that kind of thing. Ye, you mentioned Duplessi he beat
our boy is he yesterday afternoon? It was heartbreaking to watch.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
It was actually and I was actually I was like,
I see it, I see it. I see his I
think at a same he's got this because he was.
He was getting some good strikes and stuff, but it's
only a matter of duple get too close and he
gets you. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
I was saying this morning on the Matt and Jerry
Show available We're all good radio shows, sold that it
was like a boss fight in a video game, where
as he had the boss down to the last little bit. Yeah,
and one more attack would have finished him off. So
he threw the game plan out the window, and then
he got caught. Yeah, he got his neck crying.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
You don't run around avoiding anything until one of his
eyes starts flashing. Yeah, and then you shoot at that.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Go go, go, go, start button mashing, and then then stop.
You just go back to avoiding all the things that
are coming your way after that.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
It was his fifth loss, and they've all gone the
exact same way. He was winning the fight right up
until he lost it.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Yeah. It's heartbreaking to watch, yeah, because like he's so good,
it's not like the way he fights. I find particularly
probably because I care more, but where you just I
don't care if he wins boring by just standing back
and kicking, kicking dude in the shins over and over
again until the guy can't take it anymore. I don't
mind that. Yeah, but that's not the way the UFC works.
(24:38):
You know, you gotta go, you gotta impressed. Yeah, you've
got to be exciting, you do.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
But also that's you know, that's what he wants. He
wants the highlight knockout. Yeah, kicking in the teeth and
then he's out. Yeah, but two out of three Kai
Kutter France, he won first round knockout. I think he's
got thirteen of them now, which is outrageous. Dan Hooker
had one of the bloodiest batteries. Man, he got sucked
up for a dude that won.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Well, I saw a slow mo who just takes one
totally in the face. It didn't even look. It doesn't look.
He just counters and I so, well, okay, the guy's going, okay,
so I've punched you in the face, and you're going
to hold the stair and then punch me in the face. Yeah,
it seems like cheating.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
It ruins the game plan because his opponent would have
been like, if I throw this punch he's going to
have to dodge this way and then I can do this.
It's like, what if he just stands here and takes
it now, Yeah, your game plans out the window if
we're to do by the name of mateous gam rot,
which sounded like something your nan might get, like she's
got terrible game.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Rock's got gamero.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
You go around and see that he's got gamera a moment,
but yeah, and the highlight of the evening was when
he turned to his corner and said, I love this
ship always. I love this ship, blood passing out of
his face. Yeah, what a psycho. And you know people
have I see all these stories when after the UFC
cards saying you know it's too many hidden Oh bas
(26:00):
bad for the sport.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
How long are they going to allow this to go?
Speaker 1 (26:03):
And it's like, if the UFC didn't exist, Dan Hooker
will be working down at your local supermarket, you know
what I mean, be grateful that the UFC that he
is an outlet for you, Yeah, because he's like that. Yeah,
so if he doesn't have an outlet for it, yeah,
you know he's he's going to be fighting somewhere, so
(26:23):
we might as well give him a pat of cage
to do it. Yeah, God bless him. Two out of
three and I think again. Jerry asked me this morning
on the Matt Jerry Show available we're all good radio
shows are sold. What's next for is he? And I
think this is how I think it's gonna work. Strickland
already has the right for the title fight next, so
that'll be Strickland versus Duplice.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
I think the loser of that faces is he and
I think it's Strickland, which is a good storyline because
he was the last dude to beat he is. He
beats Strickland, then he gets his rematch worth Duplice for
the title.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
I think he wins that wins the title retire. Yeah,
I mean that is the narrative, that's the arc that
I mean. That would be so freaking good. That's what
I want. Yeah, that's what that That's what I want,
And that's what the story wants. Yes, from our perspective, Yeah,
that's right. But yees, so it's lined up for that,
it is. Yeah, and that's that's why he lost the fight.
(27:17):
Why Well, he was saying, I feel that he's a
big believer in destiny. Yeah, and he's going, I've had
these losses before and there's always a reason for them.
And I've had these things happened in my life and
there's a reason, and so that reason will become apparent. Yeah,
and so let's hope the reason comes apparent because it
was a bitter sort of roadman, it was a bit
of it was a bit of story arc into retirement.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Yeah, one hundred percent. Speaking of story arcs into retirement.
That's a segue for young broadcasters at home.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
S J farewell to it.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
It's well, it began on Friday. Yeah, the Warriors got
humped in the end.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
It was a tough one.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
He did score though, which is good.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Yep. You've got to see the big smile across the
across the touch line. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
And now that we statistically, mathematically as logically can't make
the top eight anymore, it is entirely just the Shawn
Johnson farewell too.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
Now.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yeah, and it starts this Friday against the Bulldogs at home.
It's the last time he'll ever play at Mount Smart.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
It's going to be beautiful. You'll be heading along with
you up, hitting along. The thing is actually mash. He
bought tickets like right at the start of the season,
he targeted that this game. Really but yeah, the thing is,
it's got to speaking of stories, come on, come on, Yeah,
we've got like a big one at home Bulldogs. I mean,
I mean the ultimate retirement story is obviously winning the
(28:33):
Grand Final for the first time. Yeah, ultimately, but come on,
just give us a little bit of that. Give us
a beautiful night out at Gohrd Stadium. Yeah, at least
if we can beat them, yeah, the Bulldogs. If Sean
Johnson scores, the place will go blistered. Yeah. And you
can't sell it out anymore than it's sold out. No,
but everyone there is going to be a goot of
(28:54):
good wall Unlike those manly assholes that were booing, I
don't know why they were doing. What's the problem with
he's out.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
The only way I could conceivably skin it, in my
mind is that booing that he's retiring, that they want
to see him continue.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
You need to you need to hold of a sign
when you're saying that, yeahoo, this is a positive booth.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
This is.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
So yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
That is this Friday against the Bulldogs. I just if
he scores, I'm looking forward to that more than anything.
Save them off for five minutes left to go overrun
can applaud him, you know, stop the game down, celebrate
Shawn Johnson and then right off into the sunset game
and then next year's are you give them a taste
of keew we one more quick break, We'll come back
a little bit of yours please.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yours please, brought you by Leader home of the.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Just the three of them to get through so far
today Heath first call it yours please?
Speaker 4 (29:51):
You can fellows, just talking about the boxing Olympics. Why
is it not going to be in the Olympics next time?
It's strange it is the boxing just kind of like
WWWE with the SmackDown versus raw, IBF, FIRS WBF, Mattroom
versus showroom or whatever the other one. There's days and
there's just a whole bunch of different federations and it's
(30:13):
all about who's fuckus s Dick Swaying in the biggest anyway.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
But the rock all right, I think essentially with them.
So I don't know the boxing was out of the
next Olympics. Well, it hasn't been confirmed, right, I Mean.
The biggest problem with why boxing has to be amateur
at the Olympics is because it takes about two years
to convince anyone to fight anyone when they're at the
top of their game.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Because ah, that's a good point.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
I mean, like the reason why the UFC is so
successful at the moment because you just you know, the
fights just have to happen. Yeah, but boxing is a
sport where people want to want to compete in it
less than any other sport in the world. You know,
my sports a weekend, week out, you know what's happening.
Boxing is like no, protect the yeah, protect the O,
protect the payday. Don't fight anyone that is below you
(31:01):
but has a chance of you know, tagging you. Yeah,
you know, there's there's so much politics, there's so much
money in the big in the big fights. So if
any support you just want, like it would take eight.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Years to organize professional that's the Olympics because no one
wants to lose. So we see dudes who are twenty
eight and er.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Yeah, it's still fighting bums trying to make it worthwhile
one day.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Yeah, so that's why they wouldn't want to do that.
So Cayson Fury doesn't want to get sparked out by
some no name and.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Yeah, there's some amateur that's coming through that hasn't paid,
has incredibly corrupt jews to get to get up through
the track to fight.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Yeah, that is a great point. I mean there's also
the w B O, I B F as well as
like who whose Olympics is it?
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Yeah? Yeah, folded into the UFC. Yeah, I mean they've
got a huge problem with the UFC popping up and
just so often fights that feel like the most important
thing that's happened. You know, it's like suddenly it comes around,
you know, it's three or five, and you're like, oh
my god, that's so important, and you're talking about I've
got to go to the pub. Yeah, your girlfriend's going.
You were just saying that was the most important thing ever, like.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Two weeks ago, weeks ago, it was, it was, it was,
and now is this Yeah, yeah, it's I love that
UFC and MMA just destroyed any bullshit like martial arts. Yeah,
anyone that was doing tay chi or tibo or any
of that kind of stuff and then they just got
punch right in the snout that Oh yeah. I've also
(32:26):
got a theory Judo champion, Yeah, gets kicked in the teeth.
I've also got a theory of how you know how
sometimes it can get really boring when they're like cuddling
up against the cage on the ground and you've always
got that one made who understands a little bit about grappling,
and they're like, no, well, what he's doing here? It
needs to get the underhooks in the fucking blah blah blah.
What if it's boring, I feel like I know how
to fix it, and it would be one rule change,
(32:49):
and it's allow headbuts, because if you're lying all over
me and I just fucking yeah, give you the old
Boston kiss. Yeah, you can't lie all over me anymore. Yeah,
I reckon the head butt had fixed the boring part of.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
You know, all revolves out of when everything was okay,
you know initially just you know, there wasn't there wasn't
a length of amount of rounds. It was just till
someone was done. Yeah, you know, and there was even
at one point we're allowing groin shots yep. So it
wouldn't be the end of the world. I mean, like
you just go back a little nod back to the past.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Yeah, the early days of MMA of us, so we're
ridiculous you'd have a dude in like wrestling boots, fighting someone.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
In a gee.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
There was one guy in the early days who would
have one boxing glove and one mma glove. There's just
all sorts of random shit going on back in the day.
And eventually they were like, what parts of this are
too ridiculous? What parts are too violent? And then they
boiled it down to what we've got today.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Yeah, but head bats was one that went and groin
shots headbuds. I don't think there was ever allowed.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Eye gouging was never allowed.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
I think there was gouging was allowed us.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Yeah, I mean I had to submission by written a detachment.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Call it here. Your suppose he likes stay from the journey,
A lot of the stuffle?
Speaker 5 (34:12):
How you love the hontory you?
Speaker 3 (34:15):
I watched watch the commentary with them, and she didn't
know what the fucking.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Who is sucking idiots?
Speaker 5 (34:25):
Who is who is stupid? Cool?
Speaker 3 (34:28):
I say, you know it's a stupid I was married to.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Get it.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
I think I think you'll both be right. I think
you can enjoy it. I think she's got some good points.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
I think a lot of stuff, I think a lot
of stuff that we enjoy is absolutely ridiculous and I've
always said that the biggest defense the essay is like, yeah,
this is stupid when people commenting just comment out the
game that exists.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Yeah, well that's the thing. There's other options.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Well, we even talked about it in the when the
last five minutes of that game took half an hour
to get through. Yeah, we're like, how the fucking nisbe marsh,
You're getting.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
On with it.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
At least at least we're playing the talking about freckle.
We've got the Friends theme playing. We've got a lot,
We've got a lot to deal with. You were in
a head dress at one point.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
It's like we had of it going on.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Yeah, Like, it's hard to defend when I was wearing
like a huge what do you call that? It's sort
of a like a Mardi Gras Mardi Gras feather bower
type headgear, and someone's looking at that that comes up
on the screen and go this is stupid. It's like, well, yeah, yeah,
it's so stupid.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
So some of the dumbest shit ever I find it.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
But it's true. You're right, you're not you're not saying
something that's not true. No, that's right. It is ridiculous.
This is correct.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
That it is stupid, but if you enjoy it, then
keep listening.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Yeah. Well, I mean there was the week before we
me and glam were doing the game, and we've talked
about it this how due to some kind of complexities
with the Olympics, we ended up being the main commentary
for a lot of clubs and corporate boxes and pubs
and stuff. And then I can kind of see the
anger because they have chosen to watch the mainstream missionary
(36:02):
musician coverage and we were letting off the most annoying
alarms sound never.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Yeah, you know, and subsequently lanes away this week. Yeah,
do your own research on that.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Yeah. And then I'm going if you don't like it,
piss off to the other channels, like we can't, we can't,
you know, I.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Don't know where the other channel. How it works, it's
fifteen Olympic channels. Yeah, and we're gonna we're just watching
South Africa Australia and it was normal Rugby. Now you
muppets are on. I can kind of get that complaint. Yeah,
so I agree with both of those people. One last
call here, call of yours.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
Plase Mooning Fellas Ben long Johnson from Coastal Otago here. Hey,
you just wondering what it'd kill sky who was broadcast
in the Union or the league just to put the
teams one lost record underneath your names. They do it
in the NFL, and it's great to get you You on,
tool Poppy on and support the underdog any who, anyone
(36:51):
north of the way tech.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
I reckon.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
That's ninety nine percent of the country's It's yeah, that's
an aggressive agreesive call there.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Yeah, there's a lot of things we don't do that that. Yeah,
that just seem like basics.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
I find myself getting caught out when I'm commentating Super
Rugby because we'll be commentating a game between like the
Crusaders and the Drawer, and then you were like the
Drawer not doing too well this this year, and then
Beauty the fourth on the table. Yeah, something like that, like, hey,
help us out.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Yeah, we do no research for this. Yeah that that
that is a stat that that how many and oh
yeah you're you know whatever you are is a hugely
important thing. I guess though, so that it doesn't doesn't
mean much in Super Ugby at the table yeah, because
that gets pretty confusing. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
And then also like so if it's the Rugby Championship
what we want to know?
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Yeah, oh and one.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Yeah, I still think that's a good stat to have
the Yeah, I do too.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Yeah, I mean, I mean it does make a difference
to Super rag when SA it doesn't make a difference
to the table, but it just seems everyone gets through
and I yeah it does. So we go for ages
and then basically what like you know, for me that
follows the island as I'm like Jesus terrible season, it's like,
oh you you're actually looking pretty good, are you? Are
you through?
Speaker 1 (37:58):
You know why we don't do us right, It's because
it's in like the NBA, it's wins first losses, that's
how you get into the top eight for match conference.
But in Super Rugby there's so much bonus point shenanigans, right,
it actually doesn't matter who's Yeah that's true.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Yeah, yeah, but it's it's like an easy look at
at how the season going. Yeah, you know, have you
won more than you've lost? Yeah, you're if you're like
zero to nine, then you can easily see that the
season's not going well, not going your way. But you're
five and five, then you go, okay, well, these season's
going yeah, reasonably were like like these.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Season's fifty to fifty and also like subsequently we should
probably been the whole convoluted points system anyway and just
have wins verst losses. Yeah, because I know that it
was brought in to stop the blowouts, but it hasn't. No,
so just go wins first losses. Yeah, why not? Oh
great call. Thank you very much for that. Thank you
very much for joining us this morning, Heath. That is
your fifteenth podcast of the week already and it's only Monday. Yeah,
(38:56):
enjoy the rest of your Monday and see you guys
tomorrow for a Tuesday episode of did Gender Podcast?
Speaker 2 (39:00):
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