Moth sailing, a single-handed foiling dinghy, is coming to Manly in the Moth World Championships.
Hattie Rogers is a favourite for the competition and talks to D’Arcy Waldegrave about what the race entails.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the All Sport Breakfast podcast with Darcy
Wildegrave from Newstalks EDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
This is the All Sport Breakfast on News Talks ABB.
It is twenty two minutes the seven Moth World Championship.
This is a big event just up north of Auckland
at Manly, and we're joined by a woman that many
people think is one of the favorites for this event,
Moth Action. Coming up next. Hattie Rogers joins us. Good morning, Hattie, Hey,
(00:40):
how are you doing? Doing very very well? I'm not
probably as good as you, looking forward to the Moth
World champs which are in Manly, just north of Auckland,
starting today and running right the way through the weeks.
I suppose first up, what exactly is a moth. We
know it's sailing, but it's quite a specific craft.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Well, a moth is a single hearted foiling dinghy. It's
not so big, you know, eleven feet, so it's a
It packs a punch with its size for sure, goes
over thirty knots, so I think someone hit thirty six
and a half knots the other day, so it's definitely
pretty quick. Her exciting boats, and yeah, I love sailing them.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Very new this whole falling thing over the last few years,
and I would say fashionable, but people are climbing into
it left right and seeing to what got you into falling,
what got you into the Wasp To the Moth specifically.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Well, I think it's just such a technical boat, and
I've been sailing my whole life, and I think it's
just such a fast and awesome class, and a lot
of my friends were actually doing it as well, so
it really drew me to the class. And yeah, I've
been sailing the really similar boat with the Wasp for
the last five six years and now I'm in the Moth,
which is slightly more technical and higher speeds, and yeah,
(01:58):
I'm just loving it.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
So why the move from the Wasp, Because you've done
well at that level, haven't you.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Yeah, yeah, I've won the World's in twenty twenty three
for the women's fleet. But I think the Moth is
really where you get all your creditor street cred from, really,
because it's just you get such a group of you know,
America's Cup sailors and Olympic champions and yeah, world champions
from lots of different classes all coming together and you're
(02:26):
on the same racetracks as all of those guys. It's
just a bit of a melting pot for epic sailors.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Basically, isn't harder to sail than the wasp the moth.
Is that why it attracts more higher class of sailor?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Yeah, I think in some ways, but it's more that
it's just such a development class. It's almost like a
mini America's Cup because basically there's a box rule for
the boats and you can do anything really within that.
So yeah, it means it's fairly open and not everyone's
on the same kit, so it means that development's really
(03:02):
what the class is about.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
So when it comes to your own craft, what can
you actually do, what are the parameters in which you
can work with, what you can change and what you
can do well?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Foils is the main thing, and then on the whole
it's more the arrow side of things. So you see
lots of different types of moths around. So MacKaye up
in Silverdale build the beakers, which most people have here
because it's a world in you know, New Zealand, you know,
twenty minutes down the road, so most people have them,
but a lot of the European sailors actually have boats
(03:35):
from McGuire. They have exerceets and so it's there's lots
of different builders around the world, but here, yeah, just
mainly the MacKaye is the Beakers.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
So you coming from overseas, do you bring your own
boat or do you pick one up when you're over here?
Does that operate hetti well?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
At the moment, I'm using a Beaker V three so
from Mackay, So I bought one here and then I've
been training the last two months on it, and then
just to learn the boat because I had a McGuire
last time. So it's just a little bit of a
different style of sailing, so getting used to that. But yeah,
I really like the V three. It's the Beaker's wicked
(04:15):
and yeah, hopefully I go well on it this week.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Is there a bit of an arms race when it
comes to the manufacture of these boats? Do they change
all the time with the increase in technology and knowledge
around what makes a good foiled craft?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Yeah, it is. But I think I think that people
have like sponsors. I'm I'm sponsored by a couple of
different companies, so like Zych Sailing, Fast Labougie Cecil, right,
and they pay for all of my boats, and basically
they're the They're the reason I'm only here. You know,
(04:51):
I couldn't do it without them, So but yeah, it
is it is a bit of an arms race. But
but you know, there's such wicked boats and I was told,
if you really want to do something, then you just
make it happen to say, that's what I've done, and.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I I believe it's more than a spectacle because they're
very small, they're very fast, and the fleets are really
quite large, aren't they. You got qualifying over the next
three days. What are we dealing with when it comes
to each separate race? How many craft?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Well, so the two we basically got a fleet of
around eighty boats, and it's split between two fleets because
it would just be it'd be a lot having eighty
plus boats on a racetrack on one starting line. So
we've got two different courses of about forty boats on each.
And then those results from the first three days are
(05:45):
taken and then the top half get into gold fleet
and then the next half of the lower half get
into silver. So then you race in that for the
last two days of final series. So it's yeah, I mean,
my goal is to make gold. I know it's going
to be flipping tough with a lot of good sailors here,
but yeah, fingers crossed, I can do it. Well.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
You've got to have that attitude otherwise there's no point
in going into it right. What about home advantage? How
many of the sailors in and around mainly are going
to have a distinct upper hand because they know the breezes,
and I believe it's going to be rather robust for
one of a better word.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Ah yeah, I mean for sure you get some of
that everywhere you go. For sure, Like Last Worlds, it
was in our kind of backyard in Weymouth and definitely
helped having sailed there most of our lives. But you know,
you've got Mats, Coots and Jake. They live right here
and I think they'll know the venue pretty well, so
it'd be good to keep an eye on them. But
(06:41):
they went really well in the practice regatta that we've
just had the Oceana Championships, and yeah, they're definitely ones
to watch. The local boys.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Well, you've been involved with WASP, be doing math now
and you're part of the America's Cup just earlier on
not this year, because I says earlier on this year,
but last year too, So you're the world's a royster.
You're really looking at getting across a lot of these
various categories for one of a better word. But is
your future in America's Cup, do you think, Hattie?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah, I really hope. So that's that's the goal, the
America's Cup and sol GP. Really this or last year?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Now?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Gosh, I can't believe we're into tention five. Last year
it was yeah, a pretty pretty special year with the
AC fourty for the Women's and Youth America's Cup and
then now the Moth. It's it's cool to sell lots
of different boats, and I think it makes you more
rounded and better sailor for it, I think. But yeah,
that's the goal. And hopefully my Moth sailing like propels
(07:42):
me into all of that stuff for sure.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Well hope. So it's been great chatting to your Hattie, Rogers.
Thanks so much for your time. It sounds like some
kind of organized chaos out there, unmanly. Wishing you the
best for that. Keep it clean, keep it safe, and
most importantly, keep it in front. Good on your Hattie.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Thanks very much for more from the Your Sport Breakfast
with us Watergrave. Listen live to News Talk set B
on Saturday mornings, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the All Sport Breakfast podcast with Darcy
Wildegrave from Newstalks EDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
This is the All Sport Breakfast on News Talks ABB.
It is twenty two minutes the seven Moth World Championship.
This is a big event just up north of Auckland
at Manly, and we're joined by a woman that many
people think is one of the favorites for this event,
Moth Action. Coming up next. Hattie Rogers joins us. Good morning, Hattie, Hey,
(00:40):
how are you doing? Doing very very well? I'm not
probably as good as you, looking forward to the Moth
World champs which are in Manly, just north of Auckland,
starting today and running right the way through the weeks.
I suppose first up, what exactly is a moth. We
know it's sailing, but it's quite a specific craft.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Well, a moth is a single hearted foiling dinghy. It's
not so big, you know, eleven feet, so it's a
It packs a punch with its size for sure, goes
over thirty knots, so I think someone hit thirty six
and a half knots the other day, so it's definitely
pretty quick. Her exciting boats, and yeah, I love sailing them.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Very new this whole falling thing over the last few years,
and I would say fashionable, but people are climbing into
it left right and seeing to what got you into falling,
what got you into the Wasp To the Moth specifically.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Well, I think it's just such a technical boat, and
I've been sailing my whole life, and I think it's
just such a fast and awesome class, and a lot
of my friends were actually doing it as well, so
it really drew me to the class. And yeah, I've
been sailing the really similar boat with the Wasp for
the last five six years and now I'm in the Moth,
which is slightly more technical and higher speeds, and yeah,
(01:58):
I'm just loving it.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
So why the move from the Wasp, Because you've done
well at that level, haven't you.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Yeah, yeah, I've won the World's in twenty twenty three
for the women's fleet. But I think the Moth is
really where you get all your creditor street cred from, really,
because it's just you get such a group of you know,
America's Cup sailors and Olympic champions and yeah, world champions
from lots of different classes all coming together and you're
(02:26):
on the same racetracks as all of those guys. It's
just a bit of a melting pot for epic sailors.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Basically, isn't harder to sail than the wasp the moth.
Is that why it attracts more higher class of sailor?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Yeah, I think in some ways, but it's more that
it's just such a development class. It's almost like a
mini America's Cup because basically there's a box rule for
the boats and you can do anything really within that.
So yeah, it means it's fairly open and not everyone's
on the same kit, so it means that development's really
(03:02):
what the class is about.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
So when it comes to your own craft, what can
you actually do, what are the parameters in which you
can work with, what you can change and what you
can do well?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Foils is the main thing, and then on the whole
it's more the arrow side of things. So you see
lots of different types of moths around. So MacKaye up
in Silverdale build the beakers, which most people have here
because it's a world in you know, New Zealand, you know,
twenty minutes down the road, so most people have them,
but a lot of the European sailors actually have boats
(03:35):
from McGuire. They have exerceets and so it's there's lots
of different builders around the world, but here, yeah, just
mainly the MacKaye is the Beakers.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
So you coming from overseas, do you bring your own
boat or do you pick one up when you're over here?
Does that operate hetti well?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
At the moment, I'm using a Beaker V three so
from Mackay, So I bought one here and then I've
been training the last two months on it, and then
just to learn the boat because I had a McGuire
last time. So it's just a little bit of a
different style of sailing, so getting used to that. But yeah,
I really like the V three. It's the Beaker's wicked
(04:15):
and yeah, hopefully I go well on it this week.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Is there a bit of an arms race when it
comes to the manufacture of these boats? Do they change
all the time with the increase in technology and knowledge
around what makes a good foiled craft?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Yeah, it is. But I think I think that people
have like sponsors. I'm I'm sponsored by a couple of
different companies, so like Zych Sailing, Fast Labougie Cecil, right,
and they pay for all of my boats, and basically
they're the They're the reason I'm only here. You know,
(04:51):
I couldn't do it without them, So but yeah, it
is it is a bit of an arms race. But
but you know, there's such wicked boats and I was told,
if you really want to do something, then you just
make it happen to say, that's what I've done, and.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I I believe it's more than a spectacle because they're
very small, they're very fast, and the fleets are really
quite large, aren't they. You got qualifying over the next
three days. What are we dealing with when it comes
to each separate race? How many craft?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Well, so the two we basically got a fleet of
around eighty boats, and it's split between two fleets because
it would just be it'd be a lot having eighty
plus boats on a racetrack on one starting line. So
we've got two different courses of about forty boats on each.
And then those results from the first three days are
(05:45):
taken and then the top half get into gold fleet
and then the next half of the lower half get
into silver. So then you race in that for the
last two days of final series. So it's yeah, I mean,
my goal is to make gold. I know it's going
to be flipping tough with a lot of good sailors here,
but yeah, fingers crossed, I can do it. Well.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
You've got to have that attitude otherwise there's no point
in going into it right. What about home advantage? How
many of the sailors in and around mainly are going
to have a distinct upper hand because they know the breezes,
and I believe it's going to be rather robust for
one of a better word.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Ah yeah, I mean for sure you get some of
that everywhere you go. For sure, Like Last Worlds, it
was in our kind of backyard in Weymouth and definitely
helped having sailed there most of our lives. But you know,
you've got Mats, Coots and Jake. They live right here
and I think they'll know the venue pretty well, so
it'd be good to keep an eye on them. But
(06:41):
they went really well in the practice regatta that we've
just had the Oceana Championships, and yeah, they're definitely ones
to watch. The local boys.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Well, you've been involved with WASP, be doing math now
and you're part of the America's Cup just earlier on
not this year, because I says earlier on this year,
but last year too, So you're the world's a royster.
You're really looking at getting across a lot of these
various categories for one of a better word. But is
your future in America's Cup, do you think, Hattie?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah, I really hope. So that's that's the goal, the
America's Cup and sol GP. Really this or last year?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Now?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Gosh, I can't believe we're into tention five. Last year
it was yeah, a pretty pretty special year with the
AC fourty for the Women's and Youth America's Cup and
then now the Moth. It's it's cool to sell lots
of different boats, and I think it makes you more
rounded and better sailor for it, I think. But yeah,
that's the goal. And hopefully my Moth sailing like propels
(07:42):
me into all of that stuff for sure.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Well hope. So it's been great chatting to your Hattie, Rogers.
Thanks so much for your time. It sounds like some
kind of organized chaos out there, unmanly. Wishing you the
best for that. Keep it clean, keep it safe, and
most importantly, keep it in front. Good on your Hattie.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Thanks very much for more from the Your Sport Breakfast
with us Watergrave. Listen live to News Talk set B
on Saturday mornings, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
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