The latest edition of 'The All-Star Panel' features NZ Herald Online Sports Editor Alex Powell and Gold Sport Rugby Commentator Paul Allison.
On this weekend's agenda:
- Liam Lawsons' big return to the Racing Bulls team
- Have New Zealanders fallen out of love with the America's Cup?
- Spain becomes the frontrunner to host the 2035 Rugby World Cup
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the All Sport Breakfast podcast with Darcy
Waltergrave from News Talk SEDB, Paul Sport Breakfast, All Star Panel.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
And the All Star Panel this morning consists of mister
Alex Powell and mister Paul Allison. Alex, greetings to you
morning mate.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
How are im good?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
You've come a more abuliant please go on, lift up.
You're on the All Sport Breakfast with Darcy Watergrave and
Paul Allison. Paul, you show him how to do it?
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Morning guys.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
How you doing there? You okay, we're getting there. We're
slightly stating the lift and let's start off in your
your sphere of influence, if you will. Alex Powell like
too much has been made of what happened yesterday with
Liam Lawson because that second free practice meant nothing. It
was just littered with red flag. So it's all in
(00:58):
today and the qualifying we get a real idea of
what Liam can actually achieve in that racing bool years.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Exactly. I mean I take away from the actual timings
of who finished where yesterday, the positive for them was
he got through a lot of laps on that track
and a car he hasn't driven on this year when
he needs confidence. When they get through practice three today,
he'll probably have done the equivalent of a Grand Prix
and that will put him in really good stead to
actually bounce back and qualifying and hopefully really put one
(01:29):
up Red Bull.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Well, you'd hope. So for Liam's point of view, I
just want to see good, hard racing and in a
wonderful track. Paul, have you climbed aboard this whole Formula
one resurgence? Now we've got a Kiwi in the cross.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Eas I think a whole lot of keys have here.
I have, and I'm really quite fascinated by it. You
feel sorry for the young man, don't you, in the
sense that he was a bit surprised that he was
relegated to the Racing Bulls team, the fact that he
didn't get much prior warning. But this is a cut
throat industry and there's a lot of young guys in there.
In fact, there's six of them that are younger than
him that are racing. There's only thirty out of the twenty.
(02:10):
Out of the twenty races, there's only four of them
that are over thirty. So that's a young man's game,
and there's no second chances really, but he has to
make basically every post a winner now. And what I
mean by every postal winner, he's got to score some points.
He's got to get into the top ten somewhere. As
Alex said, they would have given him some confidence. Sure,
it was completely disrupted. It's a bit like the university
(02:31):
students burning couches on the side. I think the number
of fires that were that were that we came through.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
In that practice sessions.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
We're racing race tomorrow, so well we might just have
to collapse that line. To Paul Ellison, we're having a
few troubles with that, Alex. Just before we move on
to our next subject. There's twenty drivers in the whole
world that reach Formula one. Rarefied it. I think people
quite grasp how difficult is to actually get a seat
(03:03):
and then stay in your seat.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah, and you also have to take into account that
those twenty drivers are not always the twenty best drivers.
You know, there are so many different things at play
to actually how you get a seat. You know, Lamb
was held back for so long because he's from New
Zealand and there was a little commercial value in having
him in there. But the black from Mexico board and
hundreds of millions in endorsements from Masley and from Talmax.
And you know, one of the guys, dad's a billionaire
(03:26):
that owns the team, so he gets a seat. So
it is really difficult to get in there.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Grossly unfair, but hell of the fun to watch. We've
found having a great time. We've found Paul Allison. Paul
your back with us.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Mate, Yeah, totally back, got the bwires and the tall
sort of heat and out.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
I see, so all good.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Let's talk Mawana PACIFICA wow, what a game. And as
a hard out Crusaders fan, I actually enjoyed it because
it's great to see Mowana put together an eighty minute
performance essentially and actually get that scalp because like they've
been hovering, they've been waiting and now they've done it.
(04:06):
Sur they pit it again.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Be great if they could. And the fact that I
think it's I think many rugby fans around New Zealand
would have enjoyed that performance against the Crusaders. It was
an eighty minute performance. We've seen them sort of let
themselves down where they played half a game and then
really leaked points in the other half.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
But this was a really really good performance. It was
an outstanding spectacle to watch, and so we had Super
Rugby Pacific this year been like that.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
They've knocked over the.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Two heavyweights now in terms of the Hurricanes who finished
in the top two at the round robin stage last
year and the Crusaders who have always been there or thereabouts,
and so this was outstanding. Tanna Umang would have got
a lot of confidence. Ardisav well, is there a better
rugby player than Super Rugby Pacific that can inspire than
what he's done. Patrick Pira Greenei doing the goal kicking
fantastic and then you've got to mofil out scoring tries
(04:56):
out wide. It's got a sense that the side has
gained some confidence and the jowled together and they've got
some belief in themselves and they've knocked over the Warrtars
a couple of times in the past than their nine
wins that they've had in Super Rugby in their entire history,
so that'll give them a lot of confidence going into
today's game. But this competition is so close it's really
hard to predict what's going to happen. But they've scored
(05:18):
a lot of points. In fact, I think they've scored
the third highest number of points in the competition, but
they've also leaked a lot of points and that's the
one thing that they'll need to be very conscious of
this afternoon and what will be a head to head
to head to head or back to back to back
to back games that is coming up with Rugby Fest
this afternoon and rak Super Rugby Pacific Alex.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Have they got a sound and secure future do you think, Morana?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I hope so. I mean there was a lot of
noise last year about will they be able to stay
in this competition. But to sort of go to what
Paul's did you look at when Malana came into the
competition and we sort of expected they would be able
to compete straight away. But they're up against sides that
have existed for the better part of thirty years. Even
the Fiji and Drew who came in at the same time.
They did exist a long time before, Sir Bragby as
well because they were playing in the Australia's national competition.
(06:06):
But if they keep playing like this, and I think
for me, you look at the way they played against
the Hurricanes and the way to play against the Chiefs
as well. They've also played well without Ardie Savia, and
that for me is huge that if they want to
actually be a force in this competition, that it can't
just be about the one player who's putting bums on seats.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
And his brother is still to come back. In fact,
they've got a lot of injuries too, So the fact
that they've done what they've done so far with that,
when you consider the Blues one victory and endure it
one victory, they're doing very well. Alex, hang in there, Paul,
hang in there, back with more shortly. It's nineteen minutes
to nine. This is the All Sport Breakfast and the
(06:43):
All Star panel here on Newstalk zb.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Do you won't be there.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
It's eight forty four star panel, Paul Alison joining us
Sir Alex Powell as well.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Paul.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
America's Cup bid is over, hardly a surprise. Four weeks
of it going year and now I don't think there's
any due diligence done on having this is either going
to come here. It was just a horrible joke getting
everyone's hopes up before it got blown away. I'm sure
that Auckland Unlimited or Tatucky Auckland unlawder were keen ass
(07:22):
but the government, the Council team New Zealand, they didn't care,
did they.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Well, the economic times hasn't helped them in terms of
the money that was available. I just wonder whether they
are now sort of reflecting and saying when they turned
down ninety nine million dollars after the twenty twenty one
when from New Zealand government at that stage, whether or
not they'll be ruining that although they did go offshore
and pack up one hundred and fifty million or around
(07:48):
that or.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
You answered good question.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Yeah, Well, the thing is that they did it, then
they can probably do it again, can't they.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
And so the fact is they turned down.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
That ninety nine million in twenty twenty one from the
government and what was probably slightly better economic times than
what it is now. You know, New zeald Events, Auckland Council,
the private sector that they needed to get together to
be able to put at least one hundred and fifty
million dollars into the KEDDY for this one. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
Sure it had what it was a two million dollar
economic benefits I think to Barcelona from hosting the last
World Cup and that just maybe the reality of this event, Sadley.
I know a lot of water fans and yoddie people
would have loved to have seen it in New Zealand,
and it would have been great to have it here,
because when it's raced around the world, what does not
(08:34):
use a friendly times to watch it. It doesn't have
quite the same appeal as what it came when you
can watch it in your living rooms at a nice
time of the day. But the reality is the timing
is not right to be able to generate that sort
of money and justify the event being held in New
Zealand at this time.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I think they paid at lip service being on sow GPS.
The future anyway done after to be nursed. Alex Powell.
I think also what you're saying Paul about the ninety
nine million dollars, a lot of that was in kind.
It wasn't actually cash, and I believe teams On much
more interested in the cash, aren't they. Alex?
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Yeah. I mean, if you on the positive side of
ten New Zealand, we've seen it now win this cup
and defend it three times, and two of those have
been away from home, very impressed. So if they'd have
to do it again. I don't think they're mine. But
it's just a disappointment for if you're a young kid
coming up now, you're just getting into sailing or yachting,
and you can't see it in front of you. You have
to get up at stupid o' clock like pulls into that.
(09:28):
So I think from that side of it, we should'll
be disappointed. But like, like, at the risk of turning
this into the all politics breakfast, it just didn't really
make financial sense to put that much on the table
for something at this point and where New Zealand's at economically, So.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
There were all questions. Short answer, do you even care
that it's gone?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Alex, No, I was just so I was so resigned
to it not being here anyway, it's sort of if
it was there, it was a bonus, and then otherwise
you can't miss what you've never had.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
What about you, Paul, or did you weep?
Speaker 4 (10:03):
No? No, I haven't got the tissues out just yet.
The like Alex, you know, you've probably resigned to the
fact that it wasn't going to be here for the
reasons that we've talked about.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Indeed, right, let's move away from that. At eight forty
seven and take a look at ports Sherwood. Now, Paul,
this is odd this one because the ambassador role she's
got the World Cup. I need to believe she's only
away for a week. But that was enough for the
NRAL to say, y now we're not going to read
this to you. That's too long away. She is arguably
(10:32):
the biggest star in women's rugby regardless of the code.
This is odd, isn't it by the NRL?
Speaker 5 (10:40):
Well, it is in a way and it isn't in
another way. Now, I know that sounds very irish and
it's not the seventeenth of March, but.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Let me just talk you through this.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Because the fact that she signed up for the Newcastle
Knights and also signed up as an ambassador role for
the Women's Rugby World Cup in England along with I
think Kendrew cox Edge and Sarah Hunter who was the
former World Cup winner from England and the most cat
player in Natasha Hunt, the English halfback. Now, if she
knew that she was going to do that, did she
(11:09):
declare it and did she get the okay early on?
Is there a conflict of interest here? Did she get
asked to say do you want to sacrifice the ambassador
role to be able to play, and maybe she said, look,
I'm happy to do the ambassador role. That's my preference.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
I'm sure I would have loved to have played for
the Newcastle Knights. I don't think she can have it
both ways, to be fair, because the World Cup does go.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
From late August into late September and the Grand Final
doesn't happen until the fifth of October. Now, if she's
only away a week yet, that may be a slightly
different story. But the reality is and it's not about
code versus code. I think it's about the fact that
you've got to have a clear, clear view and if
she's an ambassador for rugby and she's playing rugby league
(11:50):
and you're being paid to play rugby league, maybe there
is a conflict of interest and so she has to
make a choice and it sounds like she has.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Is your interest conflicted, Alex when it comes to this.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
No, I think the NLW will, in their rights do
what they've done. I don't think we've really got it
as of air because the Warriors haven't been in these
last years. But the NLW has really gone from strength
to strength in Australia. The audiences are so much bigger
than what they've always been and they continue to grow.
But in doing that, you have to realize that it's
biggest asset are the players. And if you've got someone
like Porschauban, who yes, would bring so much star quality
(12:23):
to that competition, saying that she doesn't want to do
like she doesn't want, who fully committed she wants to
go and be an ambassador for another sport, then of
course they're going to put their foot down.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I'm just wondering on balance, so if she's worth more
in a limited role than not at all, they've done
their math. Plainly, it doesn't the numbers work for them.
I'm still scratching my head because she's a superstar.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
She is a superstar. But if you're an NRL fan,
you're not going to have any clue who Porscherwoodman is,
you know, and you'll know, yeah, there's there's no doubt
what she does on the field, But in terms of
star names in their LW, the local fans will not
miss porshwoman that much because there is just so much
(13:09):
start calling out even you know, you look at someone
like Mikayla Braks, She's going to come in and do
the same thing that porsmen will do. So I think
the NFL has actually made a very calculated move here.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
And they're strong by it, so good on them for that.
A one last thing quickly, mister Allison, will coup of
rugby in Spain. Does that sit well with you? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (13:31):
It does well.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
It's not confirmed yet.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
I mean there's still a few other there's still a
few other contenders, Japan, Italy, Middle East with guitar and
a New Ae and Saudi Arabian.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
And the like. So we would rather go to Spain
or the Middle East, Darcy. I mean, if you look
at Spain, they beat Tonga last year, they lost narrowly
to Fiji. They ranked eighteenth in the world. They've been
at a Rugby World Cup in the past of nineteen
ninety nine, they've qualified for twenty twenty seven. They're a
rising nation, and the fact that they will justifiably be
(14:01):
amongst the teams that will be playing. It's not like
you're going to a place where they don't even have
a home team playing. So I'm actually okay if Spain
does get the rights to the World Cup in twenty
thirty five, because if you go back to say nineteen
ninety five when the All Black speak Japan by one
hundred and forty five to seventeen. I think from memory
(14:21):
Japan's hosted the World Cup and it was a real
success there, so why can't Spain do it as well?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
And I think also Spain doesn't indulge in power tool diplomacy. Alex,
you'd be enjoying it in the Iberian Peninsula.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Look, if Spain did get the twenty thirty five World Cup,
I think we'd all want to go, wouldn't we. It
would be a great little thing, a great little competition
to have over there. I so little, it's the Red
World Cup.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Say little for.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Me, but no, you look at what sport needs to do,
and it needs to expand, it needs to find new markets.
And if Spain come to the table as a genuine
player to host the reg World Cup, then absolutely let's
get behind it.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
In one handy get on you, Alex Pearll, thanks very
much for yours, p Allison, thanks for you as well. Boys,
have wonderful weekends, and thanks for joining us here on
the All Sports Breakfast. That is eight minutes to nine.
Jason Pine, he's lurking around here again. He spends more
time in his studio and he is a Wellington You're
right mate, which is up next to Just seven.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
And the All Star Panel this morning consists of mister
Alex Powell and mister Paul Allison. Alex, greetings to you
morning mate.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
How are im good?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
You've come a more abuliant please go on, lift up.
You're on the All Sport Breakfast with Darcy Watergrave and
Paul Allison. Paul, you show him how to do it?
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Morning guys.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
How you doing there? You okay, we're getting there. We're
slightly stating the lift and let's start off in your
your sphere of influence, if you will. Alex Powell like
too much has been made of what happened yesterday with
Liam Lawson because that second free practice meant nothing. It
was just littered with red flag. So it's all in
(00:58):
today and the qualifying we get a real idea of
what Liam can actually achieve in that racing bool years.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Exactly. I mean I take away from the actual timings
of who finished where yesterday, the positive for them was
he got through a lot of laps on that track
and a car he hasn't driven on this year when
he needs confidence. When they get through practice three today,
he'll probably have done the equivalent of a Grand Prix
and that will put him in really good stead to
actually bounce back and qualifying and hopefully really put one
(01:29):
up Red Bull.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Well, you'd hope. So for Liam's point of view, I
just want to see good, hard racing and in a
wonderful track. Paul, have you climbed aboard this whole Formula
one resurgence? Now we've got a Kiwi in the cross.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Eas I think a whole lot of keys have here.
I have, and I'm really quite fascinated by it. You
feel sorry for the young man, don't you, in the
sense that he was a bit surprised that he was
relegated to the Racing Bulls team, the fact that he
didn't get much prior warning. But this is a cut
throat industry and there's a lot of young guys in there.
In fact, there's six of them that are younger than
him that are racing. There's only thirty out of the twenty.
(02:10):
Out of the twenty races, there's only four of them
that are over thirty. So that's a young man's game,
and there's no second chances really, but he has to
make basically every post a winner now. And what I
mean by every postal winner, he's got to score some points.
He's got to get into the top ten somewhere. As
Alex said, they would have given him some confidence. Sure,
it was completely disrupted. It's a bit like the university
(02:31):
students burning couches on the side. I think the number
of fires that were that were that we came through.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
In that practice sessions.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
We're racing race tomorrow, so well we might just have
to collapse that line. To Paul Ellison, we're having a
few troubles with that, Alex. Just before we move on
to our next subject. There's twenty drivers in the whole
world that reach Formula one. Rarefied it. I think people
quite grasp how difficult is to actually get a seat
(03:03):
and then stay in your seat.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah, and you also have to take into account that
those twenty drivers are not always the twenty best drivers.
You know, there are so many different things at play
to actually how you get a seat. You know, Lamb
was held back for so long because he's from New
Zealand and there was a little commercial value in having
him in there. But the black from Mexico board and
hundreds of millions in endorsements from Masley and from Talmax.
And you know, one of the guys, dad's a billionaire
(03:26):
that owns the team, so he gets a seat. So
it is really difficult to get in there.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Grossly unfair, but hell of the fun to watch. We've
found having a great time. We've found Paul Allison. Paul
your back with us.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Mate, Yeah, totally back, got the bwires and the tall
sort of heat and out.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
I see, so all good.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Let's talk Mawana PACIFICA wow, what a game. And as
a hard out Crusaders fan, I actually enjoyed it because
it's great to see Mowana put together an eighty minute
performance essentially and actually get that scalp because like they've
been hovering, they've been waiting and now they've done it.
(04:06):
Sur they pit it again.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Be great if they could. And the fact that I
think it's I think many rugby fans around New Zealand
would have enjoyed that performance against the Crusaders. It was
an eighty minute performance. We've seen them sort of let
themselves down where they played half a game and then
really leaked points in the other half.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
But this was a really really good performance. It was
an outstanding spectacle to watch, and so we had Super
Rugby Pacific this year been like that.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
They've knocked over the.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Two heavyweights now in terms of the Hurricanes who finished
in the top two at the round robin stage last
year and the Crusaders who have always been there or thereabouts,
and so this was outstanding. Tanna Umang would have got
a lot of confidence. Ardisav well, is there a better
rugby player than Super Rugby Pacific that can inspire than
what he's done. Patrick Pira Greenei doing the goal kicking
fantastic and then you've got to mofil out scoring tries
(04:56):
out wide. It's got a sense that the side has
gained some confidence and the jowled together and they've got
some belief in themselves and they've knocked over the Warrtars
a couple of times in the past than their nine
wins that they've had in Super Rugby in their entire history,
so that'll give them a lot of confidence going into
today's game. But this competition is so close it's really
hard to predict what's going to happen. But they've scored
(05:18):
a lot of points. In fact, I think they've scored
the third highest number of points in the competition, but
they've also leaked a lot of points and that's the
one thing that they'll need to be very conscious of
this afternoon and what will be a head to head
to head to head or back to back to back
to back games that is coming up with Rugby Fest
this afternoon and rak Super Rugby Pacific Alex.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Have they got a sound and secure future do you think, Morana?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I hope so. I mean there was a lot of
noise last year about will they be able to stay
in this competition. But to sort of go to what
Paul's did you look at when Malana came into the
competition and we sort of expected they would be able
to compete straight away. But they're up against sides that
have existed for the better part of thirty years. Even
the Fiji and Drew who came in at the same time.
They did exist a long time before, Sir Bragby as
well because they were playing in the Australia's national competition.
(06:06):
But if they keep playing like this, and I think
for me, you look at the way they played against
the Hurricanes and the way to play against the Chiefs
as well. They've also played well without Ardie Savia, and
that for me is huge that if they want to
actually be a force in this competition, that it can't
just be about the one player who's putting bums on seats.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
And his brother is still to come back. In fact,
they've got a lot of injuries too, So the fact
that they've done what they've done so far with that,
when you consider the Blues one victory and endure it
one victory, they're doing very well. Alex, hang in there, Paul,
hang in there, back with more shortly. It's nineteen minutes
to nine. This is the All Sport Breakfast and the
(06:43):
All Star panel here on Newstalk zb.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Do you won't be there.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
It's eight forty four star panel, Paul Alison joining us
Sir Alex Powell as well.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Paul.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
America's Cup bid is over, hardly a surprise. Four weeks
of it going year and now I don't think there's
any due diligence done on having this is either going
to come here. It was just a horrible joke getting
everyone's hopes up before it got blown away. I'm sure
that Auckland Unlimited or Tatucky Auckland unlawder were keen ass
(07:22):
but the government, the Council team New Zealand, they didn't care,
did they.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Well, the economic times hasn't helped them in terms of
the money that was available. I just wonder whether they
are now sort of reflecting and saying when they turned
down ninety nine million dollars after the twenty twenty one
when from New Zealand government at that stage, whether or
not they'll be ruining that although they did go offshore
and pack up one hundred and fifty million or around
(07:48):
that or.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
You answered good question.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Yeah, Well, the thing is that they did it, then
they can probably do it again, can't they.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
And so the fact is they turned down.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
That ninety nine million in twenty twenty one from the
government and what was probably slightly better economic times than
what it is now. You know, New zeald Events, Auckland Council,
the private sector that they needed to get together to
be able to put at least one hundred and fifty
million dollars into the KEDDY for this one. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
Sure it had what it was a two million dollar
economic benefits I think to Barcelona from hosting the last
World Cup and that just maybe the reality of this event, Sadley.
I know a lot of water fans and yoddie people
would have loved to have seen it in New Zealand,
and it would have been great to have it here,
because when it's raced around the world, what does not
(08:34):
use a friendly times to watch it. It doesn't have
quite the same appeal as what it came when you
can watch it in your living rooms at a nice
time of the day. But the reality is the timing
is not right to be able to generate that sort
of money and justify the event being held in New
Zealand at this time.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I think they paid at lip service being on sow GPS.
The future anyway done after to be nursed. Alex Powell.
I think also what you're saying Paul about the ninety
nine million dollars, a lot of that was in kind.
It wasn't actually cash, and I believe teams On much
more interested in the cash, aren't they. Alex?
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Yeah. I mean, if you on the positive side of
ten New Zealand, we've seen it now win this cup
and defend it three times, and two of those have
been away from home, very impressed. So if they'd have
to do it again. I don't think they're mine. But
it's just a disappointment for if you're a young kid
coming up now, you're just getting into sailing or yachting,
and you can't see it in front of you. You have
to get up at stupid o' clock like pulls into that.
(09:28):
So I think from that side of it, we should'll
be disappointed. But like, like, at the risk of turning
this into the all politics breakfast, it just didn't really
make financial sense to put that much on the table
for something at this point and where New Zealand's at economically, So.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
There were all questions. Short answer, do you even care
that it's gone?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Alex, No, I was just so I was so resigned
to it not being here anyway, it's sort of if
it was there, it was a bonus, and then otherwise
you can't miss what you've never had.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
What about you, Paul, or did you weep?
Speaker 4 (10:03):
No? No, I haven't got the tissues out just yet.
The like Alex, you know, you've probably resigned to the
fact that it wasn't going to be here for the
reasons that we've talked about.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Indeed, right, let's move away from that. At eight forty
seven and take a look at ports Sherwood. Now, Paul,
this is odd this one because the ambassador role she's
got the World Cup. I need to believe she's only
away for a week. But that was enough for the
NRAL to say, y now we're not going to read
this to you. That's too long away. She is arguably
(10:32):
the biggest star in women's rugby regardless of the code.
This is odd, isn't it by the NRL?
Speaker 5 (10:40):
Well, it is in a way and it isn't in
another way. Now, I know that sounds very irish and
it's not the seventeenth of March, but.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Let me just talk you through this.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Because the fact that she signed up for the Newcastle
Knights and also signed up as an ambassador role for
the Women's Rugby World Cup in England along with I
think Kendrew cox Edge and Sarah Hunter who was the
former World Cup winner from England and the most cat
player in Natasha Hunt, the English halfback. Now, if she
knew that she was going to do that, did she
(11:09):
declare it and did she get the okay early on?
Is there a conflict of interest here? Did she get
asked to say do you want to sacrifice the ambassador
role to be able to play, and maybe she said, look,
I'm happy to do the ambassador role. That's my preference.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
I'm sure I would have loved to have played for
the Newcastle Knights. I don't think she can have it
both ways, to be fair, because the World Cup does go.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
From late August into late September and the Grand Final
doesn't happen until the fifth of October. Now, if she's
only away a week yet, that may be a slightly
different story. But the reality is and it's not about
code versus code. I think it's about the fact that
you've got to have a clear, clear view and if
she's an ambassador for rugby and she's playing rugby league
(11:50):
and you're being paid to play rugby league, maybe there
is a conflict of interest and so she has to
make a choice and it sounds like she has.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Is your interest conflicted, Alex when it comes to this.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
No, I think the NLW will, in their rights do
what they've done. I don't think we've really got it
as of air because the Warriors haven't been in these
last years. But the NLW has really gone from strength
to strength in Australia. The audiences are so much bigger
than what they've always been and they continue to grow.
But in doing that, you have to realize that it's
biggest asset are the players. And if you've got someone
like Porschauban, who yes, would bring so much star quality
(12:23):
to that competition, saying that she doesn't want to do
like she doesn't want, who fully committed she wants to
go and be an ambassador for another sport, then of
course they're going to put their foot down.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I'm just wondering on balance, so if she's worth more
in a limited role than not at all, they've done
their math. Plainly, it doesn't the numbers work for them.
I'm still scratching my head because she's a superstar.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
She is a superstar. But if you're an NRL fan,
you're not going to have any clue who Porscherwoodman is,
you know, and you'll know, yeah, there's there's no doubt
what she does on the field, But in terms of
star names in their LW, the local fans will not
miss porshwoman that much because there is just so much
(13:09):
start calling out even you know, you look at someone
like Mikayla Braks, She's going to come in and do
the same thing that porsmen will do. So I think
the NFL has actually made a very calculated move here.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
And they're strong by it, so good on them for that.
A one last thing quickly, mister Allison, will coup of
rugby in Spain. Does that sit well with you? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (13:31):
It does well.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
It's not confirmed yet.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
I mean there's still a few other there's still a
few other contenders, Japan, Italy, Middle East with guitar and
a New Ae and Saudi Arabian.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
And the like. So we would rather go to Spain
or the Middle East, Darcy. I mean, if you look
at Spain, they beat Tonga last year, they lost narrowly
to Fiji. They ranked eighteenth in the world. They've been
at a Rugby World Cup in the past of nineteen
ninety nine, they've qualified for twenty twenty seven. They're a
rising nation, and the fact that they will justifiably be
(14:01):
amongst the teams that will be playing. It's not like
you're going to a place where they don't even have
a home team playing. So I'm actually okay if Spain
does get the rights to the World Cup in twenty
thirty five, because if you go back to say nineteen
ninety five when the All Black speak Japan by one
hundred and forty five to seventeen. I think from memory
(14:21):
Japan's hosted the World Cup and it was a real
success there, so why can't Spain do it as well?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
And I think also Spain doesn't indulge in power tool diplomacy. Alex,
you'd be enjoying it in the Iberian Peninsula.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Look, if Spain did get the twenty thirty five World Cup,
I think we'd all want to go, wouldn't we. It
would be a great little thing, a great little competition
to have over there. I so little, it's the Red
World Cup.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Say little for.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Me, but no, you look at what sport needs to do,
and it needs to expand, it needs to find new markets.
And if Spain come to the table as a genuine
player to host the reg World Cup, then absolutely let's
get behind it.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
In one handy get on you, Alex Pearll, thanks very
much for yours, p Allison, thanks for you as well. Boys,
have wonderful weekends, and thanks for joining us here on
the All Sports Breakfast. That is eight minutes to nine.
Jason Pine, he's lurking around here again. He spends more
time in his studio and he is a Wellington You're
right mate, which is up next to Just seven.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
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