June 16, 2024 • 36 mins
This week on The Big League Podcast - Australian rugby league journalist and Triple M radio host Ben Dobbin joins to explain why Kurt Capewell has earned a shock recall to the Queensland State of Origin side.
Dobbin will argue why New Zealand needs to host a State of Origin match, why the Anzac Day test should return and reveal how seriously the Christchurch bid for an NRL team being taken in Australia.
Nathan Limm and Michael Burgess react to a frustrating defeat to Storm and examine how the Warriors can avoid another humiliating loss to the Titans.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
This week on The Big League Podcast, Australian rugby league
journalist and Triple M radio host Ben Dobbin joins to
explain why Kurt Capewell has earned a shock recall for
the Queensland State of Origin side. Dobbin will argue why
New Zealand needs to host a state of Origin match,
why the Anzac Day Test should return, and how seriously
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is the christ Church bid for an NRL team being
taken in Australia. Michael Burgess and I will react to
a frustrating defeat to the Storm and examine how they
can avoid another humiliating loss to the Titans. My name
is Nathan Limb. Let's go lo b LB. Kurt Capewell
is back in State of Origin. Who would have guessed it?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Not me?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
He's been named on the interchange in place of Selwyn
Cobbo for Game two in Melbourne next wedding state. The
Warriors second rower has been hampered by injury in a
frustrating season where he struggled to find top form. He
only recently returned from a calf injury after weeks on
the sidelines, but cape Well's attitude is unshakable. I have
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so much respect for people who are relentlessly positive and relaxed.
He rocked up to the Warriors press conference two weeks
ago in his Queensland Maroons cap having missed selection, cracking jokes,
winding up his blues. Mad coach. You can't help but
be happy for him. You can't help but smile. And
with Mitch Barnett lining the reserves for New South Wales,
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game two is going to have a little bit of
extra Australian Kiwi Spice Michael Burgess, Senior New Zealand Herald
Right up. I was pretty shocked at this selection.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
What did you think?
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Yeah, it was definitely something you didn't see coming. As
you say, he's been injured, he had that calf injury,
he had, he had a throat injury that put him
out for a week or so and hasn't really made
the impact that we all expected him to make with
the Warriors. But when you think about it a little bit,
it's actually not that surprising. Queen's then love to pick
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guys who have been there, done that. They're so loyal.
He was so good for Queensland in twenty twenty one
and twenty twenty two, and that's that's how they do
that with the morons. They just if you a guy
who's been there in the past and proven, they want
you back.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
He's such a gritty type player, isn't he.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
You know, he's had that success at the Sharks, with Penrith,
with the Broncos. Now he's at the Warriors. So this
is surprising news. But when you think about it a
bit more, it does it does kind of make sense.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I mean Game one looking at that was kind of ruined,
wasn't it. With the Joseph Swally he's sending off. I
thought it was deserved. I thought he deserved to go
for the bin to the bin for that. I know
people saying Riche Walsh slipped he did. I think Swali
he should have been lower. We're heading into game two,
I suppose, and surely I know you're a Queensland supporter, bitch,
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surely you want New South Wales to get up here,
and we have a decider.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
I do it one way for Michael McGuire because I
really think I felt so I felt so sorry for
him in game one because you know, you know how
hard I've seen her hard he worked with the Kiwis
over the last six years.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
He just leaves nothing to chance.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
He's put months and months into this and talk about something,
talk about a coach killer, talk about something completely out
of your control. That crazy tackle. As you say, I
was just relieved that he was sent off because I
would have thought if he stayed on the field after
he'd basically taken Reesewalh's head off, that would have been
a really, really bad precedent. And I know there's always
all this crap about how there's different standards for origin,
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but that was a shocker. Sure, Reese Wolf slipped a bit,
but no, you just you can't do that. So it
would be great for McGuire for the Blues to win,
to be terrible if they're turn all down, going to
going to sun Corpse. So yeah, in some way way, Snaith,
I do. I wouldn't mind a Blues wind sets up
the decider brilliantly and it would be great for McGuire.
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Otherwise there's already going to be questions over is he
the right guy for next year, etc. He's only on
a one year deal, so yeah, would it would. I
can't believe I'm saying this, but it would kind of
be good.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Now we're going to do't worry. We haven't forgotten about
the Storm game. We're going to go through all the
details of that. We're going to analyze the game. But
first we're going to hear from Australian rugby league insider
Ben Dobbyin. Up next, he's going to tell us why
Kirk cape Well has been recalled, why New Zealand should
host a State of Origin match, why the ANZAC Test
should return, and give his summation of how the Warriors
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are being viewed in the NRL from across the Ditch.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
That's up next.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
The Big League Podcast.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
We're very lucky to be joined now on The Big
League Podcast by Australian rugby league journalists and Triple M
radio host Ben Dobyin.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Ben, thank you so much for your time. How are you?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah, it couldn't be better. Thanks being looking. We're halfway
through the rugby league season, so we're on the run home.
We've got Game two of the State of Origin here
in Australia next Wednesday night. Round fifteen was just a
massive round the Beanie for brain cancer around the mark
Us Foundation and look all.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
In all, I can't pick a clear winner at the moment.
There is a lot.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
There's a lot to play out in the rugby league
world with who will win the Telstra Premiership. Nobody's really
put their hand up and said, listen, I am one
hundred percent going to be there.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Let's talk about our state of origin being because there's
always such a massive topic. At this point in the year,
Kurt Capewell has been selected back into the Queensland side.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
What do you make of this?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Mitch Barnett's obviously still on the New South Wales squad list,
but that's massive for Kurt.
Speaker 7 (05:54):
So I'm massive for kurk Capewell.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
He's a charliv A boy and a lot of your
listeners wouldn't realize where Charlie will is.
Speaker 7 (06:01):
It's about eight hours west of Brisbane and it's a very.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Remote town and they love him out there. The mayor,
Sean Radnich, the great Zoro made, He's called it Kurt
Mill before he's put a signe up. I mean, Kurt
caple is the greatest product of rugby league to ever
come out of Western Queensland. Look, he's replacing Selwyn Cobbo.
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They've dropped Selwyn Cobbo from the Queensland side, which is
massive news in itself. But Kurt Caple has been very injured.
I talked about this yesterday on Triple M Sunday's Indian.
I believe that the reason that Brisbane aren't going anywhere
near they are is because the lack of Kurt Capbell.
He's leadership. Now he's been He's been busted for you guys.
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He was so injured and long. He's only been back
for a couple of weeks. But Kurt Caple is a
superstar mate and he's an unbelievable footballer. I remember in
twenty fifteen when he was playing with the Ipswich Jets
and I remember just how good a football he was. Then.
Speaker 7 (07:03):
Everywhere he has gone, he has won.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Everywhere Kurt Caple has been too one, whether it's Cronulla,
whether it's Penrith or whether it's.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
Brisbane and now the Warriors.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
He's a winner and I think that this is long
term paying for the Warriors. Short term pain for the Warriors,
but long term gain. The fact is that he'll be
out for a couple of weeks. He'll be back with
that Brisbane game. You'd expect you'll play because he will
come off the bench. Remember, so once he comes back,
he'll be right for that Brisbane game at home in
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two weeks time.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Well, I was going to say, you know, you said
he's been busting for the Warriors. He's been this has
almost come. Does it mean of me to say it's
a little bit of a surprise because he's spent significant time.
Speaker 7 (07:47):
I was surprised he spent significant time injury must mate, Yeah, yeah,
so injured.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
I spoke to his manager about it a couple of
weeks ago, Clint Schevwlowski, and he just said, mate, he
was absolutely wrecked. But he's he's rehabbing the hell out
of himself and got himself right and he's now in
a position. And I just spoke to one of the
Origin coaches today that said they really were happy without
Capeble's game before he got injured. But the problem learning
is that he's been out for what the last seven weeks,
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so it's been a huge thing.
Speaker 7 (08:17):
It's something that.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
You know, like everybody will be surprised, but Queensland are
a bit light on stocks for that utility. You remember,
Kate Well can play in the centers, he can play
on the wing, he can also play on the edge
or thirteen. So that's why he's going as the utility.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
So yeah, I want to ask you.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
There's been a lot of talk, as there usually is
around this time of year, been about the prospect of
New Zealand potentially hosting a State of Origin game. I
know Peter Velandi's indicated last year that from twenty twenty
seven New Zealand would be a consideration. Now I want
to get an Australian perspective on this, because for me,
if I was an Australian, I'd be sitting there going
why would we play in New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
It's two Australian states.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Why would we take a game to New Zealand and
rob the Australian fans of the biggest sporting event.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
On our calendar.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Now, obviously there are loads of State of Origin fans
in New Zealand. I'd love it, But as an Australian,
what do you think of it?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
If I'm honest with you, I'd love to have it
in New Zealand. I'm going to tell you now, I
hate the fact that we go to Perth, Melbourne and Adelaide. Right,
they're very much AFL states and the people that fly
there and go to the game are normally people from
New South Wales or Queensland. Now, look, it used to
be traditionally one state got two and the other state
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got one game and then that rotates.
Speaker 7 (09:37):
But the NRL, in their wisdom, sell one of the games.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Game two they sell. So that's just the way they
do it now. So if they're going to sell it
the Perth, they're going to sell at the Adelaide. We're
in Melbourne at the MCG this year. Why wouldn't we
go Why wouldn't we go to New Zealand? I think
that makes perfect sense now, you guys, and I mean
this wouldn't be announced, but you guys are going to
be an Allegiance Stadium anyway for your round one because
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the Warriors are one of the teams that are going
to end up going to Vegas next year, and so
you'll see it first hand. The last supporters booking their
tickets to go March one to watch the NRL over there.
Now that probably hasn't been announcing you guys yet, but
all the talk is that the Warriors are going to
be one of the four teams going to going to
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Las Vegas for Round one, which means that it draws
a huge supporter base over to America.
Speaker 7 (10:30):
Now, I was in America for the Round one this
year and I'm going to tell you it was awesome.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
I would love to see State of Origin played in
New Zealand. I think it makes sense. I think you
guys deserve the spectacle. I think you deserve an opportunity,
and it also will bring big money into your economy
because Australians will travel, they will travel.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Another big topic around the Nrral at the moment is
the idea of expansion side and we understand we've got
one coming in twenty twenty six, another coming potentially in
twenty twenty eight P and G Perth, Brisbane, Sydney, and
there are two christ Church beds Now in terms of
how you guys are looking at it over the Dutch,
obviously there's a lot of interest in the idea of
a team in christ over here. How seriously is that
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being taken in Australia when you've got potentially easier options
just on your own doorstep.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah, Look, everybody talks about they need another team in
New Zealand, and I'm open to it, but I think
we did set need to get our time zones right
in the sense that we need visit to get a
Western Australia, a Western Australian team, I.
Speaker 7 (11:35):
Think that makes it, you know, like it makes it.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
A national comp and I don't mind that second team
in New Zealand. I think that to counteract rugby, which
is obviously your national sport, Rugby League needs to try
and get some of the best talent from there and
poach them. So I like the fact that they're actually
potentially doing that. I like the fact that that's an option.
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I don't know if P and G is going to happen.
I know that everybody talks about it, and I understand
this was a political but they haven't got a they
haven't got a pathway system or a development system that Look,
if I'm biased, I think Western Brisbane, like that ipswitch
corridor that going downs needs one. But the idea is
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is not silly that New Zealand doesn't get another team.
We've seen when the Warriors are going well, that the
company was alive.
Speaker 7 (12:31):
I think that.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I think the nursery there is huge I think you've
got and the women's game is growing, and I just
think that that makes it makes a lot of sense.
But you've got to have the money to go into it.
The one thing that the ARLC and Peter Delandi's will
not tolerate now is franchises going into this without the
backing and the funding, and they need to be successful
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from the start.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
We've seen with the.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Dolphins that if you can have success from the beginning,
it makes it a lot easier and they are flying
at the moment.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
So for me, I like it, I really do.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
But I also genuinely think that, you know, like there's
a lot of water to go out of the bridge
before New Zealand get that second team. But it's not
out of in any way out of contention.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Just finally, Ben, I want to ask you about midyear tests,
which used to be an annual thing and now is
sort of being moved on the narrows expanded. We have
state of Origin in the middle of the year for obviously,
for you guys, this is your biggest things state of
origin sporting thing of the year for New Zealanders, obviously
we want to see the keywis play. We don't have
a state of origin, we get invested in it, but
we want to see the key weis play. What's your
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take on this? Should they bring it back or is
there no point because you guys make keaps of money
out of state of origin?
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Anyway, I like.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
An ANZAC Gay Tests. That's now I'm with you on this.
I hate end of the Year's Test.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
I think unless it's a tour, I hate it because
I think the season gets enough football and I think
it dilutes the brand.
Speaker 7 (13:57):
I really do. So I would love to see.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Us go back to that traditional ANZAC Day Test where
we saw Australia play New Zealand. Obviously we fought together
in World War one and two and so for me,
that would be the tradition that I'd like to see.
Speaker 7 (14:16):
I love them India Test. I don't like it at
the end of the year, so I agree with that.
But mate, the scheduling is just so hard. Now.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Are they looking at potentially shortening up the season? Yeah,
but maybe, but you know, like that comes at a cost.
It's all about revenue and it's all about you know
this this unbelievable competition called the NRL and how it
goes about itself but yeah for me, bring back that,
bring back.
Speaker 7 (14:43):
The end Zac Day test that was always very special.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Brilliant Ben, Thank you so much for your time that's
been Dobbin Australian Rugby League, Jennis and Triple and radio hosts.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
You have a great rest of your day.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Good on.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
Thanks brother.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
This is the Big League Podcast.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
This is going yeah, the Big League Podcast on the
Warriors Bad Wagons.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
It's day one.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Well the Warriors have sustained a frustrating loss to the Storm.
Here are the highlights of a turbulence but ultimately deflating
night out at Mount Smart.
Speaker 8 (15:17):
Round fifteen underway here at Notts my Stadium, Mart Masoka.
Speaker 9 (15:20):
A puppy look'st for a puppy love a pass that's
not selling Onetyer scoring another four pier kicks.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
For kat Ta No, he's pitched it, kat.
Speaker 10 (15:33):
Tour score a try catch touch a pitch that it's
another try.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
To turner issues on the short side.
Speaker 10 (15:40):
Beautiful girl and it's another score. Indeed, you know Meshi
a straight through any Kattar tell on this is outside.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
It's getting meny.
Speaker 9 (15:51):
Another trip from Melbourne, Little cookst Pannis Bunnies, he's over.
Speaker 8 (15:59):
And another penalty comeing. Montoya's been benned. The manage already called.
The issue that's straight away makes the worry is pain
Hook's there by Dylan Watton's lest the.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Yuk on a report in the Yeah, I wondered whether
that was coming.
Speaker 8 (16:14):
Here's grumps, the cookes is scorn right, here's bonnets to tea.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
And they took tin of hot tire.
Speaker 10 (16:25):
P oh, this is Grenance tie the game right there.
Speaker 8 (16:29):
The Storm win by thirty eight points to twenty four.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Audio courtesy of sky Sport. That storm last spurge obviously frustrating.
You were there, What was the atmosphere?
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Like?
Speaker 4 (16:41):
What are your overall thoughts after that? Because I was
sitting there at home going.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Man, it feels like they blew That atmosphere was great.
The atmosphere it had the feeling of you hit them
to mount some mart. There was traffic jams actually on
the way there, because I think so many people were
arriving early they knew it was a big crowd. It
felt a bit like a test match, you know. The
Storm's always got that extra edge to it. There's so
many Storm fans, which drives me nuts. There's so many
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key as you follow the Storm. It just makes me crazy.
But then again, the Storm have had so many great
New Zealand players playing for them, so I kind of
get it. So there's a lot of Storm fans middling
around and really was a great atmosphere, and that continued
to start the game, but peaked at about the twentieth minute.
Then it sort of felt a bit anticlimactic. In terms
of the game. I would say it's a bit like
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it was a bit like your your Chinese takeaways. It
was a bit sweet and sour because two reasons, I
haven't seen a Warriors team in this whole losing streak
of sixteen games that everyone goes on about. I haven't
seen a Warriors team start that well against the Storm, right,
haven't seen that. And there were periods of that game
where they were just dominating them with their defense. They
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were just smashing them backwards and the Storm were looking
around what's going on?
Speaker 4 (17:53):
So you look at that and you.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
Think, actually, there were some really good parts out of
that game against the top top team and a team
that the Warriors always struggle with. But the sour part
is a how the Storm came back and b they
scored seven tries, So you know, there's a lot to analyze,
which will do later, but it was just a real
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shame that all the effort the Warriors put in was
undone by a lot of the little details. Yeah, the
details that over I guess the second half of that,
the second period of that first half, it just came undone.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
But the start.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Let's talk about the start, because it was near perfect.
The Warriors were dominant, They had the Storm camped on
their own line, forcing repeat sets. The Storm making mistakes,
silly mistakes. They didn't look like the Storm at all.
And after the Warriors scored that first try they got
the penalty Pompey kicks it, You're like, okay, they're being
clinical to try in the corner to Marcella Montoy with
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that brilliant pass out the back from Charles and you're thinking,
everything's all on here. They had a captain's challenge that
was successful. That's the best start they've made all season.
How did it come so undone?
Speaker 4 (19:00):
It was amazing.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
It was an amazing start and quite incredible when we
asked Craig balam Me about it in the press conference
and he said, yeah, actually he couldn't remember a worst
start by the Melbourne Storm in his tenure, and you talk,
this is the guy who's coached seven hundred games approximately
off the top of my head, he's been there coach
since two thousand and.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Three, so he's been there twenty years.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
That's probably the worst start he can remember, which shows
how much pressure the Warriors are putting. The Storm under
the storm of making mistakes. The Warriors were flawless. The
problem is the enner of these days, not the problem.
The thing is with the n RL, momentum always swings back.
It always swings back, so we knew it was going
to swing back. But the thing that really hurt the
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Warriors was that the way the Storm scored those first
two tries kind of not against the run of play,
but cart grabbing it out of Pompey's hands when Poppies
landed on one leg and the problem was to Martin.
Martin was in his way, so you know, otherwise Pompy
it had landed normally, but he sort of stumbled because
Martin was trying to block and he was there.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Katya grabs the ball.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
We haven't seen that all seasoned, so and then the
second one with coach knocks it back and there were
three Warriors players that sort of got caught flat footed.
Those two tries are quite a killers mentally, because mentally
the Warriors are thinking, shit, we have smashed these guys
for twenty minutes. They've come down twice to a owen
and got two cheap tries off kicks, and I reckon
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that really hurts you, not your belief, but it just
it really sets you back a little bit. And then
from there they started to get more space. Rockerberry got injured,
Hughes started to play with some confidence, and suddenly the
Storm what They had a half time lead, and Bellamy
again said, he said, to be fair, he made two
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good points.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
I thought.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
He said, to be fair, it was a surprise they
were head at halftime, not really expected. And secondly he said,
we're a bit lucky to score those tries off kicks.
It doesn't always happen, but you kind of you make
your own luck and you put yourself in the position.
So the Storm would just being the storm.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I guess there are a couple of defensive mystery I suppose,
and that that period of the first half of the
Storm really gained the upper handed. The one that stood
out to me was Adam Pompey had a clear miss
on Ali Kator sent him straight through the line. Katoora
linked up with Nick Meeni and that was the Storm's
fourth try and it gave them the lead. I've been
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a massive supporter of Adam Pompey, and I think he's
a really good player. He's been ice cold off the tee.
I like him at center. That one really stood out
to me and was really frustrating because he obviously got
caught in two minds about covering the player they had
out the back, and Kato just ran straight past and
Pompey didn't even get an arm to him.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
Yeah, well there's two points there. I mean, Barry Rockeberry
is on the ground with his shoulder injury. So the
Warriors are down to twelve and they were a bit disorganized.
You've got to respond better. It was a great line
by Cartoa, and Hughes found him perfectly. I think it
also says just how well Kartoa played. That was probably
another frustrating thing is that I've always had a bit
of an uneasy feeling about the way they let Cartoua go.
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I know he kind of wanted to go. He wanted
a new a new surroundings. COVID was hard for him,
playing in Nathan Brown, playing under Stacy Jones was all hard.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
But man, he was good. Carte was so good and
you like, jeez, he's kind of one that got away Pompey.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
Yeah, it was. It was. It's not what you want, obviously,
but I agree that I think he's been I think
he's been excellent since he's come back into the team. Yeah,
and it's kind of uncharacteristic, but they had they had
issues on both edges as the game went on. That
was another thing is that they looked they look kind
of vulnerable on both edges.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
I pointed out because we do have to be fair.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
I can't just be a cheerleader for a player and
not also point out when they make mistakes. But these
the two symboons in the second half, which obviously swayed
the game. The Storm scored tries in the absence of
these players, Warriors were down to eleven for a period.
Both were fully deserved in my view. Montoya's won where
he didn't retreat ten after giving a penalty and through
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the Storm player was a Jerome Hues out of bounds.
That was a brain explosion for me. I don't know
what was going on there. Deserved to go to the
bin and the Storm squored straight afterwards. Dallan's one, he
looked like he came out of the line for an
intercept as we see sometimes, and obviously it wasn't there.
He just stuck an arm out and got a play
around the neck. Those things are so frustrating and such
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a massive game.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Was it a result?
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Do you think of the pressure they were under at
that point in time, that that frustration was creeping in
and that was I guess manifested in those errors.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
I think it was a I think it was.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
It's kind of epitomized the night where the Warriors did
a lot of really good things.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Dominated a lot of stats, you know that. I think
we've discussed.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
They dominated yard post contact meters they had Melbourne Storm
had twice they amount of mistackle, so a lot of
the Warriors had more completions. They dominated a lot of stuff.
But the details and the composure and the calmness, I
think that was the thing the whole night. The Warriors
weren't the composed and those two incidents, especially the Montoya one,
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he was a bit unlucky because I think if you
look back closely, I don't know if that was a strip.
I think maybe it was just loose carry. And so
he actually got the ball. So he's already a bit annoyed.
Wait a minute, I've got the ball now being penalized.
But yeah, very very silly to do the tackle. He
didn't get burned, but yeah, Dallen's as well. It's just
a lack of sort of composure, a reflex action. But
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the question you got to ask, and the thing I
think that bugs a lot of people about the Storm.
We admire them, but they do seem to get away
with more than most teams. That's why they're so hard
to play against. Because Harry Grant with about ten minutes
to go, same thing as Montoya, completely offside, gets in
the way and the referee just gives a penalty of
blatant professional foul.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Why go another one.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
Jerome Hughes one of the best players on the night.
He's amazing, He's been the he is the guy that
he's becoming one of the greatest enemies and Warriors history.
He's beaten them eleven times in a row. He just
plays so well every time. But he did smash Wade again.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
In the face. Yep, blood coming from his mouth.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
The referee looked at it, the bunker looked at it,
and there was nothing, not even a penalty.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
So you do wonder.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
I think it's a bit of the Michael Jordan effect
with the Storm, where they're a big team, they're a
well known team, and they just get away with a
bit more. They're very smart, they know how to get
in the way, they know how to manipulate the situation
at the ruck, and it makes them so hard to
play against. And maybe that doubles back to your point
with your question that the frustration built for the Warriors
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and it kind of manifested in what Montoya did and
to a lesser extend what Dellan did.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Just finally, birche the has been a big topic for
the last few weeks to Mighty Martin. She has Tavita,
but Martin especially doing so well in the saddle. A
number seven Jersey short Johnson comes back into the site
and we see Timighty pick up more work on the
left hand side, doing the kicking on that left edge.
It didn't click in the same way, and I've seen
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people going, oh, why did we move to Martin? And
it was as a winning combination. For me, you've got
to have Sean back in there. But what are your
thoughts on what they need to do here? Because for me,
those two other two best players that you need in
the halves. It didn't work as well as we thought
it would.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Yeah, I mean it's like Tomaty's been driving the bus
for three weeks and you can't come in and say
to mate, thanks for all that, but now we need
you in the back seat. You know, you just and
Andrew Webs is smart enough to know that he's got
to keep to Marty involved because he's been doing so well.
But this, for me is one of Andrew Webs's biggest
challenges because how does he how does he integrate them
both now? Because to Marti's a different guy. Like we
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have seen a year and a half of Sean running
the cutter and everything. Sean, you know, dominating both sides
of the ruck, taking the ball at first receiver, running
almost every play, and now they're going to share it.
And it did look a bit a bit uncomfortable. You know,
you had Sean further at the back. He had Sean
was playing a five eight, he'd be he'd getting the
ball at third receiver. Tomato would be more at first receiver,
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and Sean looked a combination. I don't know what you thought,
but a combination of rusty and just a bit down
on confidence. You know, made a couple of mistakes early on.
So it's a big thing to solve. But I like
the fact that they're doing it because I think in
the long run, if you get them both working in tandem,
other teams are going to hate it.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Big League Podcast.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
The Warriors next face the Titans on the Gold Coast
on Saturday. The Titans are bottom of the ladder with
three wins ten losses. They just lost to the hapless Tigers,
which ended the tigers nine manch losing streak.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
But need I remind you what happened last time.
Speaker 10 (27:51):
He's got the gas and he's got precisent right there. Oh,
that's brilliant for the Titans. Stayed and he scores a try.
Speaker 8 (27:59):
Back on the inside David Forfa He's there, just two
powerful as Kelly gets.
Speaker 10 (28:06):
Through a tackle and offloads and there's.
Speaker 8 (28:08):
Another try cat who's over. It's taken eight rounds for
them to get over the line and they beat the
Warrior's hair and on the xact day.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
I can't believe you dug that out. Can I remind
you what else happened that night? What else? From memory?
Speaker 5 (28:25):
Your TV was a shoe width away from being destroyed
because you're those I think those fancy Nike trainings you
were wearing. One of them got thrown towards the teacher.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
I still haven't fix the walls, still a mark just missed.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
So the the sony and the flat is still okay.
But that that that game, you know, had ramifications all across,
all across the league scene and also in the household.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
We had a flat inspection a couple of weeks ago.
We had a broken light and a den in the wall.
I don't know how we got away with it. We
just said we moved the couch upstairs, and that's what happened.
The broken light was that the d was the Titans game.
Broken light, I'm guessing would be the start to the
Rooster's game.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
That actually was the couch, but anyway. Titans five. Jaden Campbell.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
He was back to near his beast against the Tigers
after missing several weeks with a knee injury.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
The Warriors have to win this game. They just have to.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
You cannot be challenging from a premiership and lose two
games to the Titans.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
They've only won three all year. Birds.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
The question is we've got Roger to e Varsas Ship
should be back this week. Where do you pot him
because Pompey has been okay. I know we talked about
that defense of Howler, but he's been playing on the
whole really well the last few weeks. Nick Bewley said
on this podcast last week he'd like to see Roger
to e Varsaship go into the wing and Marcello drop out.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
I tend to agree.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I'd quite like to see that because I think the
Pompy's playing pretty well and Roger didn't show enough at
center to demand that jersey after weeks out with injury.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
What do you do with them?
Speaker 5 (30:03):
Roger's been out a long time, it seems ages actually,
so it'd be great to have them back. They need
this kind of boost, they need him back. I have
to say that I can see where Nick's coming from,
because actually Roger was on the wing from memory for
the rabbit Os game, which won the best all round
performances of the year. But I'm pretty sure they'll put
him at center. And I think that's where he needs
to be. Rockerber be out, so he'll come in. The
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question will be how they juggle it because Pompey and
two of Usku we've both been playing left center this year,
so one will have to go to right center.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
I'd quite like Roger at right center.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
He used to He's got that lovely out the back
offload like Matt Gidley used to do, so when he
can do that on the right, so I'd quite like
him at right center.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
And They've got some other options on the wing. But yeah,
very good that he's back.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
No, I've got no doubt he will be back, and
they need they need the X factor that he can
provide because the Titans have got plenty of X factor.
And we talk about shit, every game is important, every
game feels like a must win. But yeah, you've got
to beat these middleweight. Teams can lose to the heavyweight sometimes.
But you ain't going You ain't going far as you
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say if you do, if you have a double a
double defeat, double defeats.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
To the type.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
The Big League Podcast on the Warriors Bad Wagon since
day one, The Big League Podcast for the biggest league fans.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
You went here last week, but you remember to send
in your tips. Funny that, and you you got some
tips this week, so well done.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
You gave me a hiding. I did, and I missed
the Thursday night game as well, so I got five
out of seven.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
Well I got that wrong, was right, pretty happy with that.
But it was a it was a hard week to tip.
There were some upsets, and yeah, I was happy to
finally get some.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Well, I'm I'm proud of myself for having the courage
to tip some underdogs because you always just tip the favorites.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
Well, I like favorites, but no, I actually tipped the Rabbits,
who are underdogs against the Broncos, and I tipped the
Cowboys to beat the Raiders in Canberra. So yeah, I
was quite proud of myself, Nathan.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Actually, we're very proud of ourselves. My mother's proud of me.
There's a lot of pride in the Burger's household right now.
All right, let's get on with it.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Dolphins Storm Dolphins coming off that upset win as well
over the Sharks.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
Yeah, amazing, amazing. I think it's their first winning club
history in Sydney. Big for them, and that try from
the Hammer was incredible, but of course the Hammer won't
be there, along with a few other Origin players, so
I will It's actually really hard to tip, but I
will lean towards the Storm, although of course the Storm
will be missing Harry Grant, who's an incredible player for them,
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along with a couple of others. But I'll lean towards
the Storm on this one, just because they seem to
find a way during Origin, even though they traditionally have
had players missing.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
I'm not tipping against the Storm. It's Titans versus the
Warriors on the Gold Coast Warriors.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
For me, not only they have to do it, but
I think they will do it.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
This feels like something that they'll rebound quite quickly because
if you step back a bit from the Storm game
and the frustration and everything, as we sort of talked about,
there was a lot of good stuff there, which sounds
crazy when you can see two of it seven tries,
but there was a lot of good stuff there. And
so if they keep that good stuff and tied up
the other stuff, and you know that they should, they
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should be fine. Roosters bulldogs, yes, bulldogs saying well, aren't
they They're right up there in the eighth. They're about
they're about and six. But I like the Roosters and
they won't be missing as many Origin players as normal.
They'll have James Dedesco. Of course, he hasn't made the
cut for Origin two, and I think the Rooster's too good.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Here.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
The Bulldogs, they've won three in a row and they're
coming off the by so they've actually got eight points
from the last four weeks. It's in Sydney, though, I
thought you were wait, hang on hanging away rabbit Os
versus the Seagles, So we just stopped there.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
You seem to tip both teams there. Can we clarify?
Is that allowed now? Or if you're going to tip
both teams, that's cool. It could be a way of
getting your score up. I'm going to back the Bulldogs
to beat the Roosters in Sidney. Rabbits versus the Seagles.
Rabbit As are back, aren't they to a agree very
good performance against the Broncos, and I think that'll continue
against the Seagulls, mainly because I mean the Seagulls coming
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from coming off a great win against the Dragons.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
But they'll be without d C.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
They'll be without Trebroyevich, so that that's that, I'd say
is pretty hard for Manley.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
I'll go with the Rabbits as well. I think they're
on the rise.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
Tigers versus the Raiders huge, I know huge, No, huge,
Just don't know at all.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
I mean the Tigers finally had to win.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
They'll be they'll be so boosted by that victory at
Leichhart and the Raiders were terrible agains to Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Did you hear Ricky Stewart after that game? Someone said, oh,
you've lost the last three at home? And he was like,
you think we're trying to win it home? Thinkure's what
we're trying to do.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Do you brilliant?
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Were you?
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Were you surprised by the fans at half time? I'm
not out there with the fans at halftime. Mate, salty.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
I once talk to one of the camera guys who
cover the team regularly and he said, you never know
what's around the corner of Ricky Stewart. He's always entertaining
in a good and bad way. Having him as the
regular coach week by week. I will go for the
Raiders to bounce back. There such a hot and cold
team and I think they should be too good for
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the Tigers.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Hay corros Al and the Hearts of the Tigers were
apparently a master stroke, but I'll go with the Raiders
as well. Thank you Michael Burgers for your time, You're wisdom,
and thank you for making us a part.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
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Speaker 2 (35:58):
The podcast will be back next Monday to digest the
Titans game.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
My name is Nathan Limb. Have a great week.
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
This week on The Big League Podcast, Australian rugby league
journalist and Triple M radio host Ben Dobbin joins to
explain why Kurt Capewell has earned a shock recall for
the Queensland State of Origin side. Dobbin will argue why
New Zealand needs to host a state of Origin match,
why the Anzac Day Test should return, and how seriously
(00:44):
is the christ Church bid for an NRL team being
taken in Australia. Michael Burgess and I will react to
a frustrating defeat to the Storm and examine how they
can avoid another humiliating loss to the Titans. My name
is Nathan Limb. Let's go lo b LB. Kurt Capewell
is back in State of Origin. Who would have guessed it?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Not me?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
He's been named on the interchange in place of Selwyn
Cobbo for Game two in Melbourne next wedding state. The
Warriors second rower has been hampered by injury in a
frustrating season where he struggled to find top form. He
only recently returned from a calf injury after weeks on
the sidelines, but cape Well's attitude is unshakable. I have
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so much respect for people who are relentlessly positive and relaxed.
He rocked up to the Warriors press conference two weeks
ago in his Queensland Maroons cap having missed selection, cracking jokes,
winding up his blues. Mad coach. You can't help but
be happy for him. You can't help but smile. And
with Mitch Barnett lining the reserves for New South Wales,
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game two is going to have a little bit of
extra Australian Kiwi Spice Michael Burgess, Senior New Zealand Herald
Right up. I was pretty shocked at this selection.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
What did you think?
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Yeah, it was definitely something you didn't see coming. As
you say, he's been injured, he had that calf injury,
he had, he had a throat injury that put him
out for a week or so and hasn't really made
the impact that we all expected him to make with
the Warriors. But when you think about it a little bit,
it's actually not that surprising. Queen's then love to pick
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guys who have been there, done that. They're so loyal.
He was so good for Queensland in twenty twenty one
and twenty twenty two, and that's that's how they do
that with the morons. They just if you a guy
who's been there in the past and proven, they want
you back.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
He's such a gritty type player, isn't he.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
You know, he's had that success at the Sharks, with Penrith,
with the Broncos. Now he's at the Warriors. So this
is surprising news. But when you think about it a
bit more, it does it does kind of make sense.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I mean Game one looking at that was kind of ruined,
wasn't it. With the Joseph Swally he's sending off. I
thought it was deserved. I thought he deserved to go
for the bin to the bin for that. I know
people saying Riche Walsh slipped he did. I think Swali
he should have been lower. We're heading into game two,
I suppose, and surely I know you're a Queensland supporter, bitch,
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surely you want New South Wales to get up here,
and we have a decider.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
I do it one way for Michael McGuire because I
really think I felt so I felt so sorry for
him in game one because you know, you know how
hard I've seen her hard he worked with the Kiwis
over the last six years.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
He just leaves nothing to chance.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
He's put months and months into this and talk about something,
talk about a coach killer, talk about something completely out
of your control. That crazy tackle. As you say, I
was just relieved that he was sent off because I
would have thought if he stayed on the field after
he'd basically taken Reesewalh's head off, that would have been
a really, really bad precedent. And I know there's always
all this crap about how there's different standards for origin,
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but that was a shocker. Sure, Reese Wolf slipped a bit,
but no, you just you can't do that. So it
would be great for McGuire for the Blues to win,
to be terrible if they're turn all down, going to
going to sun Corpse. So yeah, in some way way, Snaith,
I do. I wouldn't mind a Blues wind sets up
the decider brilliantly and it would be great for McGuire.
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Otherwise there's already going to be questions over is he
the right guy for next year, etc. He's only on
a one year deal, so yeah, would it would. I
can't believe I'm saying this, but it would kind of
be good.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Now we're going to do't worry. We haven't forgotten about
the Storm game. We're going to go through all the
details of that. We're going to analyze the game. But
first we're going to hear from Australian rugby league insider
Ben Dobbyin. Up next, he's going to tell us why
Kirk cape Well has been recalled, why New Zealand should
host a State of Origin match, why the ANZAC Test
should return, and give his summation of how the Warriors
(04:49):
are being viewed in the NRL from across the Ditch.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
That's up next.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
The Big League Podcast.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
We're very lucky to be joined now on The Big
League Podcast by Australian rugby league journalists and Triple M
radio host Ben Dobyin.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Ben, thank you so much for your time. How are you?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah, it couldn't be better. Thanks being looking. We're halfway
through the rugby league season, so we're on the run home.
We've got Game two of the State of Origin here
in Australia next Wednesday night. Round fifteen was just a
massive round the Beanie for brain cancer around the mark
Us Foundation and look all.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
In all, I can't pick a clear winner at the moment.
There is a lot.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
There's a lot to play out in the rugby league
world with who will win the Telstra Premiership. Nobody's really
put their hand up and said, listen, I am one
hundred percent going to be there.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Let's talk about our state of origin being because there's
always such a massive topic. At this point in the year,
Kurt Capewell has been selected back into the Queensland side.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
What do you make of this?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Mitch Barnett's obviously still on the New South Wales squad list,
but that's massive for Kurt.
Speaker 7 (05:54):
So I'm massive for kurk Capewell.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
He's a charliv A boy and a lot of your
listeners wouldn't realize where Charlie will is.
Speaker 7 (06:01):
It's about eight hours west of Brisbane and it's a very.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Remote town and they love him out there. The mayor,
Sean Radnich, the great Zoro made, He's called it Kurt
Mill before he's put a signe up. I mean, Kurt
caple is the greatest product of rugby league to ever
come out of Western Queensland. Look, he's replacing Selwyn Cobbo.
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They've dropped Selwyn Cobbo from the Queensland side, which is
massive news in itself. But Kurt Caple has been very injured.
I talked about this yesterday on Triple M Sunday's Indian.
I believe that the reason that Brisbane aren't going anywhere
near they are is because the lack of Kurt Capbell.
He's leadership. Now he's been He's been busted for you guys.
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He was so injured and long. He's only been back
for a couple of weeks. But Kurt Caple is a
superstar mate and he's an unbelievable footballer. I remember in
twenty fifteen when he was playing with the Ipswich Jets
and I remember just how good a football he was. Then.
Speaker 7 (07:03):
Everywhere he has gone, he has won.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Everywhere Kurt Caple has been too one, whether it's Cronulla,
whether it's Penrith or whether it's.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
Brisbane and now the Warriors.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
He's a winner and I think that this is long
term paying for the Warriors. Short term pain for the Warriors,
but long term gain. The fact is that he'll be
out for a couple of weeks. He'll be back with
that Brisbane game. You'd expect you'll play because he will
come off the bench. Remember, so once he comes back,
he'll be right for that Brisbane game at home in
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two weeks time.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Well, I was going to say, you know, you said
he's been busting for the Warriors. He's been this has
almost come. Does it mean of me to say it's
a little bit of a surprise because he's spent significant time.
Speaker 7 (07:47):
I was surprised he spent significant time injury must mate, Yeah, yeah,
so injured.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
I spoke to his manager about it a couple of
weeks ago, Clint Schevwlowski, and he just said, mate, he
was absolutely wrecked. But he's he's rehabbing the hell out
of himself and got himself right and he's now in
a position. And I just spoke to one of the
Origin coaches today that said they really were happy without
Capeble's game before he got injured. But the problem learning
is that he's been out for what the last seven weeks,
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so it's been a huge thing.
Speaker 7 (08:17):
It's something that.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
You know, like everybody will be surprised, but Queensland are
a bit light on stocks for that utility. You remember,
Kate Well can play in the centers, he can play
on the wing, he can also play on the edge
or thirteen. So that's why he's going as the utility.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
So yeah, I want to ask you.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
There's been a lot of talk, as there usually is
around this time of year, been about the prospect of
New Zealand potentially hosting a State of Origin game. I
know Peter Velandi's indicated last year that from twenty twenty
seven New Zealand would be a consideration. Now I want
to get an Australian perspective on this, because for me,
if I was an Australian, I'd be sitting there going
why would we play in New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
It's two Australian states.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Why would we take a game to New Zealand and
rob the Australian fans of the biggest sporting event.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
On our calendar.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Now, obviously there are loads of State of Origin fans
in New Zealand. I'd love it, But as an Australian,
what do you think of it?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
If I'm honest with you, I'd love to have it
in New Zealand. I'm going to tell you now, I
hate the fact that we go to Perth, Melbourne and Adelaide. Right,
they're very much AFL states and the people that fly
there and go to the game are normally people from
New South Wales or Queensland. Now, look, it used to
be traditionally one state got two and the other state
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got one game and then that rotates.
Speaker 7 (09:37):
But the NRL, in their wisdom, sell one of the games.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Game two they sell. So that's just the way they
do it now. So if they're going to sell it
the Perth, they're going to sell at the Adelaide. We're
in Melbourne at the MCG this year. Why wouldn't we
go Why wouldn't we go to New Zealand? I think
that makes perfect sense now, you guys, and I mean
this wouldn't be announced, but you guys are going to
be an Allegiance Stadium anyway for your round one because
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the Warriors are one of the teams that are going
to end up going to Vegas next year, and so
you'll see it first hand. The last supporters booking their
tickets to go March one to watch the NRL over there.
Now that probably hasn't been announcing you guys yet, but
all the talk is that the Warriors are going to
be one of the four teams going to going to
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Las Vegas for Round one, which means that it draws
a huge supporter base over to America.
Speaker 7 (10:30):
Now, I was in America for the Round one this
year and I'm going to tell you it was awesome.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
I would love to see State of Origin played in
New Zealand. I think it makes sense. I think you
guys deserve the spectacle. I think you deserve an opportunity,
and it also will bring big money into your economy
because Australians will travel, they will travel.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Another big topic around the Nrral at the moment is
the idea of expansion side and we understand we've got
one coming in twenty twenty six, another coming potentially in
twenty twenty eight P and G Perth, Brisbane, Sydney, and
there are two christ Church beds Now in terms of
how you guys are looking at it over the Dutch,
obviously there's a lot of interest in the idea of
a team in christ over here. How seriously is that
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being taken in Australia when you've got potentially easier options
just on your own doorstep.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah, Look, everybody talks about they need another team in
New Zealand, and I'm open to it, but I think
we did set need to get our time zones right
in the sense that we need visit to get a
Western Australia, a Western Australian team, I.
Speaker 7 (11:35):
Think that makes it, you know, like it makes it.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
A national comp and I don't mind that second team
in New Zealand. I think that to counteract rugby, which
is obviously your national sport, Rugby League needs to try
and get some of the best talent from there and
poach them. So I like the fact that they're actually
potentially doing that. I like the fact that that's an option.
(12:01):
I don't know if P and G is going to happen.
I know that everybody talks about it, and I understand
this was a political but they haven't got a they
haven't got a pathway system or a development system that Look,
if I'm biased, I think Western Brisbane, like that ipswitch
corridor that going downs needs one. But the idea is
(12:21):
is not silly that New Zealand doesn't get another team.
We've seen when the Warriors are going well, that the
company was alive.
Speaker 7 (12:31):
I think that.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I think the nursery there is huge I think you've
got and the women's game is growing, and I just
think that that makes it makes a lot of sense.
But you've got to have the money to go into it.
The one thing that the ARLC and Peter Delandi's will
not tolerate now is franchises going into this without the
backing and the funding, and they need to be successful
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from the start.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
We've seen with the.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Dolphins that if you can have success from the beginning,
it makes it a lot easier and they are flying
at the moment.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
So for me, I like it, I really do.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
But I also genuinely think that, you know, like there's
a lot of water to go out of the bridge
before New Zealand get that second team. But it's not
out of in any way out of contention.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Just finally, Ben, I want to ask you about midyear tests,
which used to be an annual thing and now is
sort of being moved on the narrows expanded. We have
state of Origin in the middle of the year for obviously,
for you guys, this is your biggest things state of
origin sporting thing of the year for New Zealanders, obviously
we want to see the keywis play. We don't have
a state of origin, we get invested in it, but
we want to see the key weis play. What's your
(13:38):
take on this? Should they bring it back or is
there no point because you guys make keaps of money
out of state of origin?
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Anyway, I like.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
An ANZAC Gay Tests. That's now I'm with you on this.
I hate end of the Year's Test.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
I think unless it's a tour, I hate it because
I think the season gets enough football and I think
it dilutes the brand.
Speaker 7 (13:57):
I really do. So I would love to see.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Us go back to that traditional ANZAC Day Test where
we saw Australia play New Zealand. Obviously we fought together
in World War one and two and so for me,
that would be the tradition that I'd like to see.
Speaker 7 (14:16):
I love them India Test. I don't like it at
the end of the year, so I agree with that.
But mate, the scheduling is just so hard. Now.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Are they looking at potentially shortening up the season? Yeah,
but maybe, but you know, like that comes at a cost.
It's all about revenue and it's all about you know
this this unbelievable competition called the NRL and how it
goes about itself but yeah for me, bring back that,
bring back.
Speaker 7 (14:43):
The end Zac Day test that was always very special.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Brilliant Ben, Thank you so much for your time that's
been Dobbin Australian Rugby League, Jennis and Triple and radio hosts.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
You have a great rest of your day.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Good on.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
Thanks brother.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
This is the Big League Podcast.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
This is going yeah, the Big League Podcast on the
Warriors Bad Wagons.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
It's day one.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Well the Warriors have sustained a frustrating loss to the Storm.
Here are the highlights of a turbulence but ultimately deflating
night out at Mount Smart.
Speaker 8 (15:17):
Round fifteen underway here at Notts my Stadium, Mart Masoka.
Speaker 9 (15:20):
A puppy look'st for a puppy love a pass that's
not selling Onetyer scoring another four pier kicks.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
For kat Ta No, he's pitched it, kat.
Speaker 10 (15:33):
Tour score a try catch touch a pitch that it's
another try.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
To turner issues on the short side.
Speaker 10 (15:40):
Beautiful girl and it's another score. Indeed, you know Meshi
a straight through any Kattar tell on this is outside.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
It's getting meny.
Speaker 9 (15:51):
Another trip from Melbourne, Little cookst Pannis Bunnies, he's over.
Speaker 8 (15:59):
And another penalty comeing. Montoya's been benned. The manage already called.
The issue that's straight away makes the worry is pain
Hook's there by Dylan Watton's lest the.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Yuk on a report in the Yeah, I wondered whether
that was coming.
Speaker 8 (16:14):
Here's grumps, the cookes is scorn right, here's bonnets to tea.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
And they took tin of hot tire.
Speaker 10 (16:25):
P oh, this is Grenance tie the game right there.
Speaker 8 (16:29):
The Storm win by thirty eight points to twenty four.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Audio courtesy of sky Sport. That storm last spurge obviously frustrating.
You were there, What was the atmosphere?
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Like?
Speaker 4 (16:41):
What are your overall thoughts after that? Because I was
sitting there at home going.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Man, it feels like they blew That atmosphere was great.
The atmosphere it had the feeling of you hit them
to mount some mart. There was traffic jams actually on
the way there, because I think so many people were
arriving early they knew it was a big crowd. It
felt a bit like a test match, you know. The
Storm's always got that extra edge to it. There's so
many Storm fans, which drives me nuts. There's so many
(17:05):
key as you follow the Storm. It just makes me crazy.
But then again, the Storm have had so many great
New Zealand players playing for them, so I kind of
get it. So there's a lot of Storm fans middling
around and really was a great atmosphere, and that continued
to start the game, but peaked at about the twentieth minute.
Then it sort of felt a bit anticlimactic. In terms
of the game. I would say it's a bit like
(17:28):
it was a bit like your your Chinese takeaways. It
was a bit sweet and sour because two reasons, I
haven't seen a Warriors team in this whole losing streak
of sixteen games that everyone goes on about. I haven't
seen a Warriors team start that well against the Storm, right,
haven't seen that. And there were periods of that game
where they were just dominating them with their defense. They
(17:49):
were just smashing them backwards and the Storm were looking
around what's going on?
Speaker 4 (17:53):
So you look at that and you.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
Think, actually, there were some really good parts out of
that game against the top top team and a team
that the Warriors always struggle with. But the sour part
is a how the Storm came back and b they
scored seven tries, So you know, there's a lot to analyze,
which will do later, but it was just a real
(18:14):
shame that all the effort the Warriors put in was
undone by a lot of the little details. Yeah, the
details that over I guess the second half of that,
the second period of that first half, it just came undone.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
But the start.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Let's talk about the start, because it was near perfect.
The Warriors were dominant, They had the Storm camped on
their own line, forcing repeat sets. The Storm making mistakes,
silly mistakes. They didn't look like the Storm at all.
And after the Warriors scored that first try they got
the penalty Pompey kicks it, You're like, okay, they're being
clinical to try in the corner to Marcella Montoy with
(18:48):
that brilliant pass out the back from Charles and you're thinking,
everything's all on here. They had a captain's challenge that
was successful. That's the best start they've made all season.
How did it come so undone?
Speaker 4 (19:00):
It was amazing.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
It was an amazing start and quite incredible when we
asked Craig balam Me about it in the press conference
and he said, yeah, actually he couldn't remember a worst
start by the Melbourne Storm in his tenure, and you talk,
this is the guy who's coached seven hundred games approximately
off the top of my head, he's been there coach
since two thousand and.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Three, so he's been there twenty years.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
That's probably the worst start he can remember, which shows
how much pressure the Warriors are putting. The Storm under
the storm of making mistakes. The Warriors were flawless. The
problem is the enner of these days, not the problem.
The thing is with the n RL, momentum always swings back.
It always swings back, so we knew it was going
to swing back. But the thing that really hurt the
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Warriors was that the way the Storm scored those first
two tries kind of not against the run of play,
but cart grabbing it out of Pompey's hands when Poppies
landed on one leg and the problem was to Martin.
Martin was in his way, so you know, otherwise Pompy
it had landed normally, but he sort of stumbled because
Martin was trying to block and he was there.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Katya grabs the ball.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
We haven't seen that all seasoned, so and then the
second one with coach knocks it back and there were
three Warriors players that sort of got caught flat footed.
Those two tries are quite a killers mentally, because mentally
the Warriors are thinking, shit, we have smashed these guys
for twenty minutes. They've come down twice to a owen
and got two cheap tries off kicks, and I reckon
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that really hurts you, not your belief, but it just
it really sets you back a little bit. And then
from there they started to get more space. Rockerberry got injured,
Hughes started to play with some confidence, and suddenly the
Storm what They had a half time lead, and Bellamy
again said, he said, to be fair, he made two
(20:47):
good points.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
I thought.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
He said, to be fair, it was a surprise they
were head at halftime, not really expected. And secondly he said,
we're a bit lucky to score those tries off kicks.
It doesn't always happen, but you kind of you make
your own luck and you put yourself in the position.
So the Storm would just being the storm.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I guess there are a couple of defensive mystery I suppose,
and that that period of the first half of the
Storm really gained the upper handed. The one that stood
out to me was Adam Pompey had a clear miss
on Ali Kator sent him straight through the line. Katoora
linked up with Nick Meeni and that was the Storm's
fourth try and it gave them the lead. I've been
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a massive supporter of Adam Pompey, and I think he's
a really good player. He's been ice cold off the tee.
I like him at center. That one really stood out
to me and was really frustrating because he obviously got
caught in two minds about covering the player they had
out the back, and Kato just ran straight past and
Pompey didn't even get an arm to him.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
Yeah, well there's two points there. I mean, Barry Rockeberry
is on the ground with his shoulder injury. So the
Warriors are down to twelve and they were a bit disorganized.
You've got to respond better. It was a great line
by Cartoa, and Hughes found him perfectly. I think it
also says just how well Kartoa played. That was probably
another frustrating thing is that I've always had a bit
of an uneasy feeling about the way they let Cartoua go.
(22:09):
I know he kind of wanted to go. He wanted
a new a new surroundings. COVID was hard for him,
playing in Nathan Brown, playing under Stacy Jones was all hard.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
But man, he was good. Carte was so good and
you like, jeez, he's kind of one that got away Pompey.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
Yeah, it was. It was. It's not what you want, obviously,
but I agree that I think he's been I think
he's been excellent since he's come back into the team. Yeah,
and it's kind of uncharacteristic, but they had they had
issues on both edges as the game went on. That
was another thing is that they looked they look kind
of vulnerable on both edges.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
I pointed out because we do have to be fair.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
I can't just be a cheerleader for a player and
not also point out when they make mistakes. But these
the two symboons in the second half, which obviously swayed
the game. The Storm scored tries in the absence of
these players, Warriors were down to eleven for a period.
Both were fully deserved in my view. Montoya's won where
he didn't retreat ten after giving a penalty and through
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the Storm player was a Jerome Hues out of bounds.
That was a brain explosion for me. I don't know
what was going on there. Deserved to go to the
bin and the Storm squored straight afterwards. Dallan's one, he
looked like he came out of the line for an
intercept as we see sometimes, and obviously it wasn't there.
He just stuck an arm out and got a play
around the neck. Those things are so frustrating and such
(23:27):
a massive game.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Was it a result?
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Do you think of the pressure they were under at
that point in time, that that frustration was creeping in
and that was I guess manifested in those errors.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
I think it was a I think it was.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
It's kind of epitomized the night where the Warriors did
a lot of really good things.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Dominated a lot of stats, you know that. I think
we've discussed.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
They dominated yard post contact meters they had Melbourne Storm
had twice they amount of mistackle, so a lot of
the Warriors had more completions. They dominated a lot of stuff.
But the details and the composure and the calmness, I
think that was the thing the whole night. The Warriors
weren't the composed and those two incidents, especially the Montoya one,
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he was a bit unlucky because I think if you
look back closely, I don't know if that was a strip.
I think maybe it was just loose carry. And so
he actually got the ball. So he's already a bit annoyed.
Wait a minute, I've got the ball now being penalized.
But yeah, very very silly to do the tackle. He
didn't get burned, but yeah, Dallen's as well. It's just
a lack of sort of composure, a reflex action. But
(24:37):
the question you got to ask, and the thing I
think that bugs a lot of people about the Storm.
We admire them, but they do seem to get away
with more than most teams. That's why they're so hard
to play against. Because Harry Grant with about ten minutes
to go, same thing as Montoya, completely offside, gets in
the way and the referee just gives a penalty of
blatant professional foul.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Why go another one.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
Jerome Hughes one of the best players on the night.
He's amazing, He's been the he is the guy that
he's becoming one of the greatest enemies and Warriors history.
He's beaten them eleven times in a row. He just
plays so well every time. But he did smash Wade again.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
In the face. Yep, blood coming from his mouth.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
The referee looked at it, the bunker looked at it,
and there was nothing, not even a penalty.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
So you do wonder.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
I think it's a bit of the Michael Jordan effect
with the Storm, where they're a big team, they're a
well known team, and they just get away with a
bit more. They're very smart, they know how to get
in the way, they know how to manipulate the situation
at the ruck, and it makes them so hard to
play against. And maybe that doubles back to your point
with your question that the frustration built for the Warriors
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and it kind of manifested in what Montoya did and
to a lesser extend what Dellan did.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Just finally, birche the has been a big topic for
the last few weeks to Mighty Martin. She has Tavita,
but Martin especially doing so well in the saddle. A
number seven Jersey short Johnson comes back into the site
and we see Timighty pick up more work on the
left hand side, doing the kicking on that left edge.
It didn't click in the same way, and I've seen
(26:14):
people going, oh, why did we move to Martin? And
it was as a winning combination. For me, you've got
to have Sean back in there. But what are your
thoughts on what they need to do here? Because for me,
those two other two best players that you need in
the halves. It didn't work as well as we thought
it would.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Yeah, I mean it's like Tomaty's been driving the bus
for three weeks and you can't come in and say
to mate, thanks for all that, but now we need
you in the back seat. You know, you just and
Andrew Webs is smart enough to know that he's got
to keep to Marty involved because he's been doing so well.
But this, for me is one of Andrew Webs's biggest
challenges because how does he how does he integrate them
both now? Because to Marti's a different guy. Like we
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have seen a year and a half of Sean running
the cutter and everything. Sean, you know, dominating both sides
of the ruck, taking the ball at first receiver, running
almost every play, and now they're going to share it.
And it did look a bit a bit uncomfortable. You know,
you had Sean further at the back. He had Sean
was playing a five eight, he'd be he'd getting the
ball at third receiver. Tomato would be more at first receiver,
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and Sean looked a combination. I don't know what you thought,
but a combination of rusty and just a bit down
on confidence. You know, made a couple of mistakes early on.
So it's a big thing to solve. But I like
the fact that they're doing it because I think in
the long run, if you get them both working in tandem,
other teams are going to hate it.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Big League Podcast.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
The Warriors next face the Titans on the Gold Coast
on Saturday. The Titans are bottom of the ladder with
three wins ten losses. They just lost to the hapless Tigers,
which ended the tigers nine manch losing streak.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
But need I remind you what happened last time.
Speaker 10 (27:51):
He's got the gas and he's got precisent right there. Oh,
that's brilliant for the Titans. Stayed and he scores a try.
Speaker 8 (27:59):
Back on the inside David Forfa He's there, just two
powerful as Kelly gets.
Speaker 10 (28:06):
Through a tackle and offloads and there's.
Speaker 8 (28:08):
Another try cat who's over. It's taken eight rounds for
them to get over the line and they beat the
Warrior's hair and on the xact day.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
I can't believe you dug that out. Can I remind
you what else happened that night? What else? From memory?
Speaker 5 (28:25):
Your TV was a shoe width away from being destroyed
because you're those I think those fancy Nike trainings you
were wearing. One of them got thrown towards the teacher.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
I still haven't fix the walls, still a mark just missed.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
So the the sony and the flat is still okay.
But that that that game, you know, had ramifications all across,
all across the league scene and also in the household.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
We had a flat inspection a couple of weeks ago.
We had a broken light and a den in the wall.
I don't know how we got away with it. We
just said we moved the couch upstairs, and that's what happened.
The broken light was that the d was the Titans game.
Broken light, I'm guessing would be the start to the
Rooster's game.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
That actually was the couch, but anyway. Titans five. Jaden Campbell.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
He was back to near his beast against the Tigers
after missing several weeks with a knee injury.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
The Warriors have to win this game. They just have to.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
You cannot be challenging from a premiership and lose two
games to the Titans.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
They've only won three all year. Birds.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
The question is we've got Roger to e Varsas Ship
should be back this week. Where do you pot him
because Pompey has been okay. I know we talked about
that defense of Howler, but he's been playing on the
whole really well the last few weeks. Nick Bewley said
on this podcast last week he'd like to see Roger
to e Varsaship go into the wing and Marcello drop out.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
I tend to agree.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I'd quite like to see that because I think the
Pompy's playing pretty well and Roger didn't show enough at
center to demand that jersey after weeks out with injury.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
What do you do with them?
Speaker 5 (30:03):
Roger's been out a long time, it seems ages actually,
so it'd be great to have them back. They need
this kind of boost, they need him back. I have
to say that I can see where Nick's coming from,
because actually Roger was on the wing from memory for
the rabbit Os game, which won the best all round
performances of the year. But I'm pretty sure they'll put
him at center. And I think that's where he needs
to be. Rockerber be out, so he'll come in. The
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question will be how they juggle it because Pompey and
two of Usku we've both been playing left center this year,
so one will have to go to right center.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
I'd quite like Roger at right center.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
He used to He's got that lovely out the back
offload like Matt Gidley used to do, so when he
can do that on the right, so I'd quite like
him at right center.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
And They've got some other options on the wing. But yeah,
very good that he's back.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
No, I've got no doubt he will be back, and
they need they need the X factor that he can
provide because the Titans have got plenty of X factor.
And we talk about shit, every game is important, every
game feels like a must win. But yeah, you've got
to beat these middleweight. Teams can lose to the heavyweight sometimes.
But you ain't going You ain't going far as you
(31:13):
say if you do, if you have a double a
double defeat, double defeats.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
To the type.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
The Big League Podcast on the Warriors Bad Wagon since
day one, The Big League Podcast for the biggest league fans.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
You went here last week, but you remember to send
in your tips. Funny that, and you you got some
tips this week, so well done.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
You gave me a hiding. I did, and I missed
the Thursday night game as well, so I got five
out of seven.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
Well I got that wrong, was right, pretty happy with that.
But it was a it was a hard week to tip.
There were some upsets, and yeah, I was happy to
finally get some.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Well, I'm I'm proud of myself for having the courage
to tip some underdogs because you always just tip the favorites.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
Well, I like favorites, but no, I actually tipped the Rabbits,
who are underdogs against the Broncos, and I tipped the
Cowboys to beat the Raiders in Canberra. So yeah, I
was quite proud of myself, Nathan.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Actually, we're very proud of ourselves. My mother's proud of me.
There's a lot of pride in the Burger's household right now.
All right, let's get on with it.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Dolphins Storm Dolphins coming off that upset win as well
over the Sharks.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
Yeah, amazing, amazing. I think it's their first winning club
history in Sydney. Big for them, and that try from
the Hammer was incredible, but of course the Hammer won't
be there, along with a few other Origin players, so
I will It's actually really hard to tip, but I
will lean towards the Storm, although of course the Storm
will be missing Harry Grant, who's an incredible player for them,
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along with a couple of others. But I'll lean towards
the Storm on this one, just because they seem to
find a way during Origin, even though they traditionally have
had players missing.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
I'm not tipping against the Storm. It's Titans versus the
Warriors on the Gold Coast Warriors.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
For me, not only they have to do it, but
I think they will do it.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
This feels like something that they'll rebound quite quickly because
if you step back a bit from the Storm game
and the frustration and everything, as we sort of talked about,
there was a lot of good stuff there, which sounds
crazy when you can see two of it seven tries,
but there was a lot of good stuff there. And
so if they keep that good stuff and tied up
the other stuff, and you know that they should, they
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should be fine. Roosters bulldogs, yes, bulldogs saying well, aren't
they They're right up there in the eighth. They're about
they're about and six. But I like the Roosters and
they won't be missing as many Origin players as normal.
They'll have James Dedesco. Of course, he hasn't made the
cut for Origin two, and I think the Rooster's too good.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Here.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
The Bulldogs, they've won three in a row and they're
coming off the by so they've actually got eight points
from the last four weeks. It's in Sydney, though, I
thought you were wait, hang on hanging away rabbit Os
versus the Seagles, So we just stopped there.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
You seem to tip both teams there. Can we clarify?
Is that allowed now? Or if you're going to tip
both teams, that's cool. It could be a way of
getting your score up. I'm going to back the Bulldogs
to beat the Roosters in Sidney. Rabbits versus the Seagles.
Rabbit As are back, aren't they to a agree very
good performance against the Broncos, and I think that'll continue
against the Seagulls, mainly because I mean the Seagulls coming
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from coming off a great win against the Dragons.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
But they'll be without d C.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
They'll be without Trebroyevich, so that that's that, I'd say
is pretty hard for Manley.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
I'll go with the Rabbits as well. I think they're
on the rise.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
Tigers versus the Raiders huge, I know huge, No, huge,
Just don't know at all.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
I mean the Tigers finally had to win.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
They'll be they'll be so boosted by that victory at
Leichhart and the Raiders were terrible agains to Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Did you hear Ricky Stewart after that game? Someone said, oh,
you've lost the last three at home? And he was like,
you think we're trying to win it home? Thinkure's what
we're trying to do.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Do you brilliant?
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Were you?
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Were you surprised by the fans at half time? I'm
not out there with the fans at halftime. Mate, salty.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
I once talk to one of the camera guys who
cover the team regularly and he said, you never know
what's around the corner of Ricky Stewart. He's always entertaining
in a good and bad way. Having him as the
regular coach week by week. I will go for the
Raiders to bounce back. There such a hot and cold
team and I think they should be too good for
(35:47):
the Tigers.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Hay corros Al and the Hearts of the Tigers were
apparently a master stroke, but I'll go with the Raiders
as well. Thank you Michael Burgers for your time, You're wisdom,
and thank you for making us a part.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
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Speaker 2 (35:58):
The podcast will be back next Monday to digest the
Titans game.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
My name is Nathan Limb. Have a great week.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
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