December 3, 2024 • 52 mins
Dylan Cleaver & Paul Ford join Jason Hoyte for another episode of The BYC Podcast!
On this episode, the fellas rake over the coals of the Black Caps' loss in the 1st Test and where it went wrong (0:00). Then they look ahead to the 2nd Test at what changes Gary Stead could make to get back in the Series including who is the Wicket Keeper (16:50)...
Then a preview of the Pink Ball Test in Aussie starting Friday (28:27) before remembering Phillip Hughes on the 10th Anniversary of the tragedy (34:50).
Also, controversy surrounds the Champions Trophy (36:35), the latest from the Plunket Shield (39:15) and the Super Smash goes retro (42:10).
Plus, all your favourite segments, 'News Or Ruse' (43:30), Dylan Cleaver's Who Am I? (47:00) and Paul Ford's Cricket Violence Corner (49:30)!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to the B Y and C Podcast, brought to
you by Max Rath Premium insulated concrete slabs, and sadly
we find ourselves reflecting on a somewhat baffling performance from
the black Caps. After the obvious highs of the tour
to India, there were hopes to form would continue through
to the English series. Instead, we found ourselves with a
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bad case of the dropsies. There is no logical explanation
as to why this would manifest. We know this side
is infinitely capable in the field, as evidenced by our
stunning performance in the first innings of the first Test
against India. The reality is you can't give the likes
of Harry Brooks four chances and not expect to be punished.
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What's clear is the black Caps need to be at
the top of their game if they have any chance
of complete out competing against the English and Dylan Cleaver,
I know you've heard the phrase the yips, yeah, and
usually that refers to golfs an individual who suddenly gets
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the yips? Is there such a thing as the collective yips?
Where teams start dropping catches and like a virus, it
infects everyone and people start tensing up. Is there such
a thing, because it's weird how that happens, isn't it
How a few catches a mess and all of a
sudden it becomes a plague. Almost.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah, you wouldn't think so, would you, Because some of
the guys dropping those catches are our most reliable fielders exactly.
Tom Latham is an excellent fielder. But there is one
thing that really bugs me about this. And just allow
me a little rent for a second.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
But we were anticipating it, Paul.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I cannot I cannot stand this thought.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
I actually thought Dylan might be quite happy with that performance,
So I'm actually intrigued to hear what he might have
to say.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I cannot stand the narrative that has a merged from
Scary Head and Tom Latham that things could have been
so different if we just held those catches. Well, they
didn't hold those catches correct. Things could have been so
different if Tom Latham had turned US forty seven into
two hundred and forty seven, but he didn't do that either.
(02:17):
Things could have been so different if the plane carrying
England to New Zealand clipped the remarkables instead of landing
next to John Davies Oval, but it didn't like, it's
not bad luck that you drop catches. It's bad cricket.
And everything seems to have been washed away from Hagley Oval.
But oh you know, if those catches had stuck, things
would have been so different. Yeah, they might have been,
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but you didn't. I own it, own your mistakes.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Thank you, Dylan. I wholeheartedly agree with you. And you know,
it's almost interesting, wasn't it, Paul, That the lead that
they got over us, which in the end was crucial,
was almost directly connected to drop catchers. And and Dylan's right,
you can't say, oh, you know, we didn't hold our catchers.
(03:05):
If that hadn't happened, it would have been a close
test match. He's exactly right. You didn't hold those catches,
you drop them, and so that's the game. And if
you don't, you know, take your chances, you lose.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah, And I think it is that point. You know,
it's sort of unlucky. You know, it's not like you
lost the toss or it rained when you were when
you were about to catch the ball. It wasn't it
wasn't luck. It wasn't about luck. It was it was
a skill based balls up. So yeah, look it was
really really frustrating, and I said it on the a
SEC commentary over the weekend, but it just feels like
this is what this game is going to be remembered for.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Not Brooks runs or cast As wickets.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Or you know, the the emergence of the of the
prodigy Jacob Ethel or Nathan Smith's debut or whatever. You know,
all of these sort of things around that game. It's
going to be remembered for, Oh, that was that bloody
terrible game when you Dealan dropped eight catchers and I
guess the guy I felt sorry for were Smith three
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times three catches dropped off his bowling, Willow Rourke three
catches dropped off his bowling, plus Matt Henry and Glenn
Phillips eight exactly eight chances. And we absolutely let England
off the hook from one hundred and you know we
did it when we were betting, which we can talk
about in a minute. I'm sure you know we were
one hundred and ninety nine for three in that first
innings and we absolutely did it, you know with the
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betting when sorry with the bowling and the fielding off
it when England was seventy one for four in their
first innings. Yeah, just a really, really frustrating game.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
It's inexplicable in a way because as I mentioned, you know,
you think about that first innings against India, Well, we
were utterly magnificent in the field, so we know we
can do it. And we know, as you mentioned, Dylan,
these are good players that are dropping the catchers. So
what the hell is it? But you know, when the
Test match started off, I thought England bowl poorly. I
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thought they were too short, they weren't getting it up there,
and they weren't making the New Zealanders pay. And you know,
we took sort of full advantage and we got ourselves
in premium sort of situation.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Well wait, not full advantage, not full advantage, some advantage.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Some advantage, and then we blew it. And you know,
it's my feeling that England has the ward on us.
I think of that series in England where we were
competitive and every single Test match and lost every single
Test match. They came here, did us again apart from
that final Test where we kind of stole it, miracled it, Yeah,
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miracled it. So we have to be at our absolute
best to compete with these guys and we simply weren't.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, that's five out of six tests England have beatn
New Zealand and pretty much convincingly. Like, yes, you did
mention we were in those Tests in England, but it
was still five wickets, five wickets, seven wickets. Yes on
the scorecard. That's a bit of a thumbing to be honest,
but yeah, Look, I like the fact you brought up
that first innings England when the task that's meant to
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be a massive advantage at Hegley. They did in bowl
particularly well. I thought Chris Wolkes was worse than average,
he was very Tom Latham battered like a dream and
I guess my disappointment with that is that forty seven
could have, should have might have been one hundred and
forty seven. He was batting that well and he went
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out to that frustrating thing that he does where he
looks to work the ball wider mid on through midwicket,
when you know the maker's name back past the bowler,
you know who knows what he could have done. He
loves batting. It had be able. That's a critical factor
for me is that there hasn't got enough attention. I
don't think granted, India was a bowler series, but that
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is now eight tests New Zealand have gone and they've
scored one century and that eight Test span that's fifteen
completed innings. I'm not counting the one where they chased
down one hundred, yeah, because you don't get a chance
to get a century obviously, but fifteen completed innings where
only ratcheans hundred at Bengalou is the only three figure score.
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Tom Latham has gone thirty three Test innings without a
Test century. Yeah, that's an enormous amount of innings. You'd
never last in Australia with that sort of number. Conway's
gone twenty eight. That's your two openers, the bedrock of
your team. You add those numbers up as extraordinary. Really.
Williamson ten innings, which is not many, but it's still
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blow path for him. Revenge is the only one who
can be excused. He got that one in Benglaru. He's
gone six innings. Mitchell's gone twenty two completed innings without
a ton. Tom Blundell, we'll get to him soon, twenty
six innings. Ben Phillips hasn't scored a Test century yet.
I mean, he's limited opportunities. And if we think Will
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Young's the savior. As much as I love Will Young,
he's had thirty two innings himself without a test century.
So there's a real lack of theft in that top seven.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Well, you mentioned that last week where they said, you.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Know, am I repeating myself?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
No? No, But you made the point. I think it was
in reference to an artist call, which was this is
because of the batting depth in New Zealand cricket, and
you went, well, no, hang on, And I've been thinking
and pondering this to Paul Forward and I want to
draw your attention to it. And that is Conway. You know, he,
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I guess had a few knocks in India. He was
under a lot of pressure. I'm not convict, and he
looked all at sea, let's be honest, in India. But
he did get some runs. But I'm not convinced that
he's an Emmy kind of form and he still has
that inclination, that little inside edge, that back coming just
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outside the off stump and leaving that gap between the
bat and the pad. I'm not convinced about Conway still,
and I still don't know that he's in great neck.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
They pissed off and him there and he looks increasingly
frosh straighted.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
I mean I had a quick look.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
I think he's last twelve months, I think nine bats
averaging twenty one against the sort of overall average of
thirty eight thirty nine, rapidly declining overall average. Yeah, he
is really really battling, and frankly he was. You know,
he didn't get out to a particularly good ball. He
got out to a good court and bold opportunity in
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that first innings, but it was one of a number
of I don't know, just lack of daisical wickets, you know,
ratch and hitting a.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Full toss to midwicket.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Mitchell got a leading edge, blundle, lazy slap to point
Smith Henry Southy show or whatever they do what they do.
But yeah, it's that frustration of the guys that are
good getting in and they're not going on to score
the big scores. And then, yes, I agree, it does
feel like Conway's been worked out by good international bowlers.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah, and it's interesting, you know what do we end
up with in the end in that first innings three
forty eight. You know, for it it should have been
been but I was like, okay, it's there or thereabouts.
I think Henry sal the O'Rourke and Psmith are going
to bowl well and better than this England did on
this wicket. We had them in trouble, but you simply
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can't give a player of Harry Brook's class that many chances.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, I got to the point where I was even
I was asking the question, is he actually even betting? Well? Sure,
I didn't actually even think he was betting particularly well.
He was thumping the ball quite effectively, but thumping it
in the air to field is quite often as well.
So you know, it was a weird It was a
weird test, and even feels weird talking about this now,
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because you know, we've just come off the greatest series
in New Zealand history, American series, and it feels like
we've gone from boom to bust very quickly. And I'm
wondering if we're overreacting to this, if if the drop
catches such a visceral feeling of frustration that it kind
of leaks or leeches into all your thinking about the
(11:04):
game because we bet it. Okay, you win the you
lose the toss, and you first straight back into it,
it's okay. And even the second innings, Paul's dead right.
Some of the wickets were almost comical. How does show
upsher get four wickets in that first and on the
first is at Oval?
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
And another point, did we make a mistake not playing
a spinner?
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah? Well I was wondering that too.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Looking very samey same, weren't we?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Yes, I you know, in terms of we look at
that performance against India took everyone by surprised. It was stunning.
I've kind of felt like we're back in the place
we were before that Test series where we were all going, well,
it's a bit gloomy, it's a bit sort of, you know,
not great. I want to get your thoughts Paul Ford
on Smith. I like the cut of his jib. I
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think he's going to bring something to the game. I've
never seen him play before. He looks a very handy
bowler and he looks a very handy batsman to me.
And I like the look of him, but of an
issue with no balls and so forth, But I think
he's got something to offer.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Yeah, I agree, I agree.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
He looked he looked busy, looked full of a VENGEI
looked pumped up. He looked like Ian, both of them
as well, with his mullet and his mustache, and you
know credit for that as well. Yeah, I don't think
he did a lot wrong. As I say, created a
bunch of opportunities. For get Joe Route out for a
duck in your first spell in test cricket, you're probably
doing something right. Bettered nicely in the second innings. Looks
very comfortable. I think Dylan's mentioned the fact that he's
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a he's a bloody good athlete. You know, he's a
he's fit as a fiddle. Yeah, it looks looks like
they've picked the right guy. And the interesting thing maybe
we'll talk about it in a sec is is he
even going to be there at the base?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Probably not.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah, well that's the other thing. Brighton cass Yep, he
will the cast blaster he reminded me of it's bloody
gone out of my head now. Hammerson, Harmerson, he has
that same kind of He looked the most threatening of
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their bowlers. I agree with you. I thought Whites was
woeful in that first innings, but I looked at this guy.
He's got height, he hits the deer card, looks a
good bowler. And he proved problematic for us.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
He kind of looks like he could be a roadie
your guitar check. Sure for a hard rock band too,
doesn't He's got that kind of look about him. But yeah, awkward.
And the same with Gus Akinson, who wasn't particularly good
on that first innings either because he kept on having
no ball problems and his Him and Stokes were beside
themselves with their front foot slipping on that front front line. Yes,
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but Atkinson and cast together I think, you know, it's
always you've always got to have a caveat there with
fast bowling attacks. A lot depends on injuries, but those
two did look quite menacing and awkward. Guess still we
had our chances.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Stunning statistic stunning statistic about Casts. I don't know if
you saw this that he's the first England baseballer to
take ten wickets away from England in sixteen years.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Wow, unreal.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
He's got nineteen wickets and three Tests, and nine of
those wickets were in Pakistan, hardly a mecca.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
For bowling of his style. You would have.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Thought absolutely there was a lot of chat about the
young fellow Jacob Bethel. Yeah, I think absolutely, and I
also it was a situation in that second innings where
it was like I almost felt like they sort of said,
all right, young was a freebie. You've got nothing to
lose here, just have a crack. And so he had
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that freedom, you know what I mean. But he does
look at prospect.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah, they've gone to town on that second innings in England, Yes,
if they've just uncovered lost Leonardo. I didn't think it
was that good. I think the first innings was probably
a little bit more instructive where he actually battled pretty hard, yes,
but then went out to a good nut. Yeah. I
mean like it was a decent game for the number three's,
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wasn't it. Our own one was pretty handy too.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Yes, well, you know, and let's talk about Caine. Williamson
just slided right back in ninety odd in that first
ninety three I think it was nine thousand test runs
clearly our best and Paul forward he showed it. Just
to just shame he didn't go on with it in
that first innings.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Yes, scratched around a little bit at the start of
the innings, as caanees want to do, but then he
just started to look increasingly assured. It's like he's just
going through a net session and warming into his work.
And yeah, just say first, keeping it to nine thousand runs.
And I don't really care about nine thousand because ten
thousands just seems so much cooler. So hopefully, hopefully he's
still around, you know, just to me, thousands a bit
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like one hundred and fifty. It's not really worth celebrating.
But gee, he's what's he now, thirteen hundred runs ahead
of Ross Taylor.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Something like that.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Yes, almost starting to mow down, starting to mow down
some of the big dogs of world cricket.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
That's the sort of thing I would have expected Cleaver
to say. Not you, Paul Ford. I thought you would
have been frothing at the mouth about the fact that
he got nine thousand tests runs. I would have thought
Cleaver was the one that went on. He had nine
thousand cares. All right, So there we are. Let's look
ahead to the second Test. Have been an audio for
many Oh yes, okay, let's go to it.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
We're up for media today, which would suggest that you're playing.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Have you been given the nord No?
Speaker 5 (16:17):
I was a look at the pitch. Looks pretty green
to me, But.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
It seems the spins mate, you know, I love that shameworn.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
No, obviously we'll wait and see. You know, obviously a
few days out looks pretty green at the moment.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
So but yeah, well, last time your ball with the
reborn Test matches, you've got thirteen wickets.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
How much of a rosy glowe you carry into your
next test potentially on Friday.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Wow, it could be a lot different conditions, I'd imagine.
I think if it was like would be pretty happy.
But yeah, obviously, I guess it was just great to
be part of that series. You know, all three games
were pretty different and everyone chipping at different times, which
you know is good, good for the squad and it's
good for I guess for us to go forward and yeah,
obviously look to turn around the last pretick.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah. So the gossip is then that Santana may be
coming in for Smith.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah, it seems likely. I mean, if you're just going
purely on what they brought to the table at Hagley,
I'd be more tempted to drop Suvie than yeah Smith,
But I just don't think they're going to.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
I can I just touch on that, And I think
it was from some correspondence we got Paul Ford regarding
Salvie in his record where he was averaging twenty eight
for the first godd eighty odd Test matches and for
the last twenty odd he's averaged sort of forty three
or something horrendously, you know, So there's been a real
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drop off with Salvey.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Yeah, that is absolutely right, VISTI all center.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
I think terrible, terrible poker face from him, well poker
audio at least going out there and starting to talk
about the green pitch. Jason Pine brilliantly all over him
on that one. Santa has three for one hundred and
twenty three in three innings at the base and so
averaging forty one. Hardly frightening statistics. But you know, if
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Bisher can get wickets then he definitely can. Yes, the
Saudi drop off. I had a quick look the last
twelve months. His bowling average has gone from a career
average of thirty ticked over to thirty. It has been
fifty four across ten matches, so you know, a massive,
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massive drop off in form for him.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Yeah, it's problematic.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
And as I mentioned before, you know these are who
the chances were off, Henry Smith, Phillips and Willow Rourke.
So there were eight drop catches zero off Tim SOUVII,
so not really getting the wickets and not actually creating
the chances.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
I think it's a pretty.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Difficult like it does feel like it is a hope
based selection based on historical performance rather than who we
think is going to be most effective. I think England
will be relatively pleased that Smith it's going to be
stood down for this game.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
I agree, And you know he's announced his retirement and
Jesus what a legend of the game he's been, no question,
and he's been such a great servant for New Zealand cricket.
But we can't be pissing around with this sort of stuff,
Dylan Cleve. And my whole view is we pick the
best side in the side that we think is going
to win the next Test match. And you've just, to
my mind, you've got to give Smith another run over
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sent Now, as much as I respect sent Over, Salvie, sorry,
as much as I respect Salvie, you've got to make
hard calls like that. Surely.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah, I would tend to agree. And I think one
of the underrated factors on Southey's decline as well is
he hasn't got to sit and follow up the other
end bowling left arm swinging it into the pads, which
means that his right arm swinging away from the outside
edge becomes even more effective. I think that that not
enough people have sort of credited that for the drop off.
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I think it's got to play a huge partner and
then Wagoner coming in bowling the short stuff, which unfortunately
I think they're kind of they're giving that role to
Smith and O'Rourke a bit now, and it's a bit
of a shame. I wouldn't I noticed when England do
the short ball attack, it's principally Ben Stokes that leads
it with the old ball. I would not like to
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see Smith and O'Rourke in particular hit down that route
that early. But you know, these are the cards that
I guess they're playing with now.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah, you know one of the you know, there's a
few players under pressure Latham as you know all the
batsmen really is, as stated a Latham Conway. There's a
lot of questions being asked about Blundle and his lack
of form drop some catches too, you know, and Gary
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Stead has been quite emphatic he's backed him all the
way and said he he will return to form. Yeah,
you know he is.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I have a problem with that already, do.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
So do I?
Speaker 2 (20:59):
I think he's so out of form now. Yes, that
they're working on the old stop clock is right twice
a day theory with Blundle. They figure if they keep
wheeling him out, eventually he's going to get some runs.
Like Henry Nichols did. He was a literable, right, they
could go see told you the whole loyalty thing. You've
got to trust us. Yeah, but we had eleven tests
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of nonsense in between.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yes, that's right. And you know, in terms of the
hard calls, Paul Forward, do we go Smith over Southe?
Do we go Young over Conway? For example? Tough calls?
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Yeah, yeah, Well Blunder, I mean Blunda the last twelve
months averaging fourteen with the bat, nineteen below his career average,
So jeez, yeah, just scary, scary loss of form. What
i'd I'd definitely be dropping him below Phillips and the
betting order. Phillips is averaging sort of thirty nine, nearly
forty over the last twelve months, so I think he's
earned that little promotion. But yeah, look, I just can't
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see Stead and Wells doing anything other than picks out
there and just saying, you know, we trust the old
dog to come in and do something fantastic for us.
I just actually can't see them doing it. But as
I think that's a call that i'd make. Yeah, look,
I know that Young is probably not a compelling case,
but it does feel like, you know, I think this
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could be. I think Conway is that he is on
the precipice here in this Test match against the base
at the basin. So yeah, I think it's whether it's
one match too many or is it the great redemption?
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Has Dylan mentioned?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Well? Yeah, And I just want to mention something that
you put forward last week, Dylan, which was that Latham
takes the gloves, maybe drops down the order, maybe you
get Will Young up there opening, which again is so
unfair on Will Young, putting him, you know, in a
place that he's not best suited. But you know, horses
for courses type scenario. Can I just ask you both
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in terms of, you know, with Blundle, where is the
strait swat.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Well, they can't within the squad that they've got unless
they do it with Latham, as we mentioned, and that's
non elegant solution and it's not something you could ever
imagine Gary Stead doing. But I mean the thing with
keeping on picking Blundle is also there's another factor in
this and what message does that send to the guys
that are slogging it out on the first class circuit
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next to scoring runs, you know, playing excellently, And you've
got Gary Steed standing up in front of the media
saying that Blundle's our guy, you know, and I think
that must be quite demoralizing. In fact, I know it's demoralizing,
and I know it's been talked about quite a bit,
but yeah, I mean they've just locked into this. We
(23:53):
keep on I keep on using this word anyway, dogmatic.
They're just so dogmatic about their selections and you know
blundaway come out in score hundred.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Well, I just want to read Sam Wells actually said
this week because they said, you know, why are you
persisting with.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Blundle at number six?
Speaker 3 (24:10):
And it was like, he's got this history of big
partnerships with Daryl Mitchell at number five, that's literally the reason. Yeah,
but if you look at the statistics on that, I
think they actually, I know they've had some big partnerships
against England in that series that we've lost three nil.
But their partnership average is sort of about forty or fifty.
It's not like they average a million, you know. And
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over the last year he's averaging less than all the
batsmen and five of the bowlers as well.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yeah, I just want to get to some correspondence sent
to us by Andy Bairn, and I'm just going to
cut to the end of it if you don't mind Fellers,
because that's sort of relevant to what we've been talking about.
And he says, oh, well, to the basin Blunder's Blundell
needs a break, as does Devon sal He doesn't deserve
a spot, regardless of him choosing this to be his
last Test series. The way he threw away his wicket
(24:57):
when he and Mitchell were going along quite nicely and
Mitchell had maybe twenty to get to his tongue was
typical of how he's been playing at the moment, recklessly and.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Not well, yeah, well he's got points here. Would I'd
be reluctant to put sow he's batting into the mix
as to whether he's worthy of a spot or not.
Mitchell was actually quite a lot further away than twenty
from his tongue when Sowdy was trying to break the
sixers record. The simple fact is that Sowdy can't defend
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down He's got no defensive technique as soon as someone
bowls the ball.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Which is weird, Why couln't you not defend?
Speaker 2 (25:34):
He's scared of the ball. He cannot play the bouncer.
The only hope he has got against the short ball
is to flick a few out of the ground and
get them to go full at him again.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
And yeah, it's funny you should say that, because when
we were doing the commentary he really passed off with
the short bowling, and he just stepped aside and went,
all right, I'm having a tank. That's what I'm going
to do is have a tank. That's all.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
So it looks ugly, but scoring twelve heading two sixes
and getting caught on the boundary is actually more useful
than getting hit on the tits a few times and
then gloving one up to gully for six. You know.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah, sure, how many sixes is he on now? Is
it ninety three or ninety four? Ninety five?
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yeah? Two more to get to seyweg Oh, he's past
seweg isn't he He's got two more to get to
Chris Gail. Imagine me sound they having more chest six
is than Chris Gale. It's just ludicrous.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
It's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Now.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Well, so I tell you what I'm fizzing about this
Basin test match. It's always a great sort of spectacle
for our summerpool forward. What are you hoping for here?
Apart from a victory?
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Yeah, well yeah, just another I'd like a close game,
to be honest. I'm happy to take New Zealand. I
don't want us to lose. I don't think it's going
to be a drawer. I think there might be a
bit of moisture around on Sunday, But despite the over
eight finals, these two teams are just going to blaze
through it and you four playing days, aren't they?
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Look I would love to see our beat it's coming
to form.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
I'd love to see us drop fewer than three catches
across the entire match, and I'd love to see km
Williamson rack up another milestone, pets an enormous partnership with
Devin Conway or Ratch and Revendra.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Yeah, what are your hopes and dreams for the second
test Heed Dylan, what do you want to.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
See our comprehensive victory?
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Yeah, okay, I'd like to see us.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Win the toss insert England when it's still green. I'd
like to see us run through as ball mentioned hold
the catchers. Cain Williamson turn one of those delightful starts
into another. Biggie Mitchell Sentner, Glenn Phillips pitch takes turn
go through England. The second dig or wrapped up while
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I'm sitting on the bench at a trial at the
Auckland District Court.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Great stuff, mate, And with that we have a hunch
for the game thanks to the tab and we are
going for the hairy rav to be in the runs
at home at the basin in the first innings, correct and.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Versus paying five dollars eighty.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
So yeah, chuck one hundred bucks on that and we'll
have five hundred and eighty dollars back. Thanks very much,
and you can rely on us because we got it
right last week. The silver lining of New Zealand getting
pumped by England at Hagley was that our bet did
come in Fellas Kam Williamson was the top score.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Great stuff. I'll tell you what we'll take a quick
break and we'll be back shortly. Yes, welcome back to
the BYC. So another test series which I've been love
and I was pissed off there was such a big
break between the test matches, I'll be honest with you.
So we've got the Basin Test going on, great times
also Australia Versus India and the Pink Test Adelaide starts
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five pm Friday, Dyllion Clean, you're looking forward to it.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Beautiful times on again?
Speaker 1 (28:44):
How good?
Speaker 2 (28:45):
So you spend that last hour of the Basin Test
kind of with half an eye on a second screen. Yes,
maybe you're crick and for live updates, but you're still
watching New Zealand and England and then you flick over
immediately get your nacho's out there. A couple of vegetarian
nats vegetarian nature.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Vegetarian Sure, how long have you been a vegetarian for?
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Since I was about eighty months old? That's true story.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Do you eat meat? Did you eat meat before that?
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Well? They my parents tried to feed me meat, but
I kept on getting sick and it was neat was
identified as the issue.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Wow, I've never heard of that.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Hell, you can do this.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
I had no idea. Oh that's great stuff.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
You know.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
All I'm looking forward to that are Hazels, course out,
injured bowl and the lightly replacement. What what the hell
has happened to him? He was phenomenal when he packed
his matches. His record was ridiculous and he just doesn't
seem to be in the mix anymore.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
He is here, obviously, they call him the horses for
courses type bowl. I don't like nibbles a bird. He's
not the classic Australian thump it and the deck hard,
but he's more along the deck, kept the scene at
the edge. So I think I mean he's there or
there abouts. But that's a pretty tough lineup to true true.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Yeah, well has Everage's twenty point three in Test cricket
ten matches, thirty five wickets. Yeah, and of course that
ridiculous six for seven. But you know he's no spring
chicken either. What he's nearly thirty six years old. And
this is you know, this problem that Australia has is
that they have been so consistent with their team that
their succession planning is a bit shitty when they get
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a surprise injury like Josh Josh Hazerwood being out with
the side strain. You know it's either Home or Sean
Abbot or Brendan Doggett, but all got all of them
over thirty.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
There is something wrong with Marsh tour, isn't there.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Yeah, he's not going to be bowling and this not
able to bowl. Bou Chapeau added to the squad, never
heard of him, meaning he is in line to be
the first French born player to represent the Baggy Green.
Are you taking the pass here again? Yes? I knew it.
I knew it, bou Chapa good head. Well that's because,
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funnily enough, I actually watched a lot of the first
class Australian cricket and I was like chapone never bloody
ahead of them.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
That's a typo.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
And he's he's thirty years old as well, thirty wickets
and nine hundred runs in.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
The Sheffield Shield last summer.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
He used the bowl offspin now of course, just decided
to bowl medium pace and yeah Marsh. If Marsh can't bowl,
they'll want to have a you'd expect they want to
have an all rounder in there. So he's the next
cab off the rank.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
What's what's the story with Green at.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
The moment, Beck Indury right on for the season. I think.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Okay, India on the other handed, embarrassment of Richard. Some
players coming back into it, of course, Sharma, Gil, Judasia
and Ashwyn. Yeah what what I mean? We were talking
about how good then he opened in the second innings.
I think it was first job on the first innings.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
K open both he opened both eggs.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Okay, he looked good and right. Sharma's kind of been
out of form where he was against us.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Yeah, and he's got bad bone body language, whereas Boomera.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Was superbos scape.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Yeah yeah, yeah, tough choice of the male.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Says that Sharma will bat down the order and they'll
keep that opening partnership, which what they got two hundred
and something in one of those innings, didn't they? So
Sharma will dropped down the order. Subwarn Gillill come in,
they'll drop Padakahal and Jerrell I think it is. And
then a bit of speculation about Washington Sunda, a few
calls for Judasia to get in there, but or Ashwin.
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But looking at the Prime Minister eleven game that they
played in that annoying break, Jason, Judasia only bowl five
overs and Ashwan didn't bowl at all, So if you
were betting, apparently you would be betting that Washington Sundaw
would retain his place. So yeah, the other the other
bloke that they've got still waiting in the wings, and
I had I had a look. It's pretty hard case
Mohammad Shami. He's still in India with a stuffed ankle.
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But you've literally got media state picking out his house
like a papal conclave, waiting for the smoke to come
out of the chimney that he's going to be okay
and flow into the to Australia to join the Ashes
sorry the border Givasca squad after Christmas.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
So yeah, only only in India.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Yeah, it's extraordinary to think when you really put your
mind to it, that plays like Ashwyn, who has a
phenomenal record Judasia likewise, you know, struggling to get in
the side. I almost get the feeling that Ashwyn is
quite unpopular, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
I remember what.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
I've been listening to Chimpagne.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Well, Chimpagne, he was not even your teammates, like your mate,
you know, is there is there something about because he's
a prickly customer on the field. Umpires must hate him,
I reckon they must go, oh God, because he's always
he's always gesticulating. He's always sort of talking to the
skipper or the umpire. What was wrong with that kind
of thing? What is the story there?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
My understanding is he's not a particularly popular character, but
neither it's a coach Brandy that Gautam Gambia is complete
pain in the ass too, So.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
It's going to be fascinating they deal.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
With these things. You don't have to. What's the old
thing that the All Blacks always fall back on, the
nove dickeads policy. Yes, you don't have to have that
in every team in the world.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
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Now Philip Hughes fellas ten years ago away?
Speaker 3 (34:52):
You go, yeah, well, I mean, I guess, just to
remind us, I've got it's scary that it's ten years ago.
What was he twenty five years old, got strang, kind
of struck by that bouncer on the side of the
head playing that Shield game, mister hook, cerebral hemorrhage after surgery.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Rushed to hospital.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
I think it all happened at the SCG from memory
and you know, really a massive, massive funeral at his
hometown of Maxville, A small town country boy who was
absolutely beloved. And you know, I've seen a few pieces
of this written over the last week or so, just
saying yeah, Now, every time you see a player get
hit in the head, you think of Philip Hughes and
you think what could happen and it's yeah, I guess
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it cast a shadow over the game in a way
and made us realize, you know, the element of danger
that people take on when they go out there and
face these frightening bowlers. Some lovely words from his family,
you know that they said that Philip was a small
town country boy. Australian test one day and T twenty cricketer.
He played on the toughest pictures around the globe, alongside
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the toughest of cricketers on the world stage, but he
never forgot where he came from and who helped along
the way. And you know, I think there was a
line this is the New Zealand connection, I think, and
I'm projecting this, but I know Brendan McCullum had a
I don't know if he knew and particularly well or
they seem to connect, but he had a line which said,
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where would you rather be boys than playing cricket for
your country? And I feel like that's something that Brendan
McCullum has brought into the New Zealand environment and he's
doing it now for England.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Fantastic had a tragedy that was and he was fondly
remembered and it continues to be fondly remembered. A significant
decision Fellers immediately facing the ICC is the venue of
the twenty twenty five Champions Trophy, which is supposed to
be in Pakistan.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Dylan Kleaver, Yeah, so India refusing to travel there basically
in Pakistan and not willing to compromise either because they said, now,
hang on a minute, we sent our team to the
World Cup in India. We didn't make any demands about
playing that at neutral venues or on our home chef.
But yeah, there's all sorts of geopolitical implications. Yeah, although
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Paul kind of cut through that last week didn't said, well, no,
I think India had just been pricks.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Really, yes, I think the latest on that is that
it sounds like India will play at a neutral venue,
but Pakistan want a cast iron guarantee that when they
when India are hosting tournaments, Pakistan get to go and
play at a neutral venue too, So it's a quid
pro quo.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
The whole bizarre thing about this is just how important
that Pakistan India matchup is, like they have to. One
of the whole reasons the whole pool thing at the
Cricket World Cup is demolished or dismantled was because the
broadcasters in India and the subcontinent, who paid billions of
rupees for it, had to guarantee there would be a
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Pakistan India matchup. So everyone loves the drama of it,
but they just I guess the security implications for political
implications mean that it's become fodder really for politicians.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
It's madness.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
The tournament's on in seventy seven days and there's no schedule.
We don't even know which country it's being played in.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
It's extraordinary crazy stuff, all right, a moment as our hack,
isn't it? But anyway his record West Indies versus are
the Bangers and Kingston Jamaica.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Yeah, well the ban has actually won that test this morning,
so the series has won one. They won it quite
convincing me. But along the way, mominal Hak has achieved
a dubious record of becoming the you got a pair
becoming the batter with the most ducks for Bangladesh. And
I guess the thing that makes that noteworthy is like
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in most countries, it'll be someone like a Danny Morrison
will hand the record on to a Chris Martin who
might eventually hand the record onto a Will O'Rourke. Mominal
Hawk is the top water batter so and funnily enough,
he took the record from a guy called Mohammad Ashraful
who ended up getting done for spot fixing, I believe,
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but who was also a top order betner.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
So it's pretty tough there go well, let's look at
the local game the Plunket Shield. Round three completed the
Otago Vaults three oh one for nine declared and two
thirty one Northern District's Men three sixty five and one
forty five for two. Match drawn, Wellington fire Birds two
fifty one for nine declared and two seventeen Central Stags
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three oh two and one sixty seven for one. Stags
one by nine wickets in the Auckland Aces five hundred
and sixty seven for nine declared, Canterbury four four six
for three, the match drawn. The Nodles brett Hampton and
Northern Districts one hundred and twenty one off eighty six balls.
Mark Chapman for Auckland of course two seventy six, Reese
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Marry You, Marry You, Central one eighty five and Harvey
Nichols one oh three not out.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yeah, maybe it was Canbury one eighty five. It's a
second big big Ton Canterbury. Sorry, yes, executive matches. He's
scored a big double the previous round. Evidently that game,
which is one of the few games Auckland actually get
to play in Auckland this summer. It was a bit
of a joke given me that wicket was as flat
as you're ever gonna find. Chapman obviously enjoyed it, Mary
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and Nichols clearly enjoyed it. But I've noticed a little
bit and kind of message boards you saw a message
boards these days and social media that there's a bit
of a I wouldn't say it's a clamoring, but there's
a little bit of a groundswell for Reece Mary to
be considered for the givin Conway spot maybe, but good
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on him stacking up big runs together. You're going to
be in a conversation, but I think you've got to
do more than have a good week in the blanket
Shield when one of them's on the Eden Park out
of Opal.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Yeah, exactly, he's a he's a he's out of St
Andrew's College too. Is that he played in the same
course he has Team twenty nineteen. I think they were
with Folks and Jesse Frew who's the wikie keeper batsman
from Kennbury. So yeah, pretty decent pedigree there, but as
you say, very early days but definitely definitely one to watch.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Yeah, So Golden Box Rhyes, Marrio four hundred and thirty three.
Nick Caley from Wellington three eighty eight Cheat Raval member him.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
I do remember him. It was the last one that
actually got dropped for former shoes.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Yeah yeah, maybe chuck him back in the three twenty
five The Silver Sweat Band Brett Hampton thirteen, Blair Techna
thirteen De.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Ferned Dendrew Fernstters.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
And jdmmckay twelve. The Table at the Moment, Northern District's
forty six, Central thirty nine, Cannbury thirty three, Auckland twenty five,
Wellington nineteen and Dylan Cleaver's favorite side Otago on eighteen.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Just a little bit like you didn't quite make the
Golden Box. But Dane Cleaver is having a cracking season
there too. He's got more than three hundred runs, averaging
more than one hundred scored, plus fifty three of the
four bats. I mean there's a straight swap if you
if you want to just spick a team that's more
likely to succeed at the moment and the other central.
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I'm giving Central some love here because the selectors never do.
The other central guy to keep an eye on is
Dame Cleaver's heir apparent, who's opening the batting for them.
At the moment is a guy called Curtis Heathey, and
he hasn't had an amazing start of the season, but
he got runs in that second dig and that win
against Wellington. And I know there's a lot of frustration
in Central that Mitch Hay has been anointed as Tom
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Bundle's successor, and they think down there with some justification
that their current guy is better, which is Dame Cleaver,
and the next Feller might be even better. Still.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Right now, I'm looking at a picture here, supers Nae
retro outfits.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Nice, don't you reckon? I'd be happy to wear them.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Yea, they're pretty cool. Actually, I'd were one of those
for sure.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Down the Viaed act to one of those bars.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
It's full of wankers.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
The only shir I wouldn't wear as a Canniby won.
But I think they're quite nice.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
A Sergan fan be in the middle there.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
It looks like the CEO, Hey tell you what, it's
time for pull Ford's News or os.
Speaker 4 (43:21):
J is the reigning champion here.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Yeah, the segments getting changed to pull Ford's Stitch Up
Weekly Stitch Up.
Speaker 4 (43:29):
Well, I thought Jason was amazing with us.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
Thank you amazing as knowledge of woman's anatomy last week anyway,
three things that something wrong with one of them?
Speaker 4 (43:36):
Tell me what it is.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
A baggy green test cap worn by Australia's Don Bradman
sold for three hundred and ninety thousand Ossie dollars at
auction this week. It's collector's vibe to own a rare
piece of cricketing history. The tented garment, almost eighty years old,
was sun faded and showed signs of.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
Insect damage and had a torn peak.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
Auction house Bottoms said Bradman wore the cap during the
nineteen four seven eight tour of Australia by India. This
was his last test series on home soil. The auction
lasted ten minutes. Barnums said it was the only known
baggy green worn by Bradman during the series, in which
he scored seven hundred and fifteen runs at an average
of a lazy one.
Speaker 4 (44:17):
Hundred and seventy nine. Jesus.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
The cat was said to have been given to Pankajh
Peter Kumar Gupta, India's tour manager in nineteen forty eight,
and number two Zach and Jacob Cummings. Dad Craig has
been appointed as the head coach of the Blaze in
the East Midlands for their first season as part of
England's Tier one woman's domestic comp coming and enjoyed success
in his home country with Otago Sparks, leading them to
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two fifty over Halle Burton Johnstone titles in four years.
He will arrive in the UK and the new year
after the conclusion of the Super Smash T twenty competition.
I feel very humbled and privileged, he said. Cumming's appointment
comes after Chris Rogers coached the Blaze to their first
piece of silverware in last season's Charlotte Edward's Cup. He
left to take charge of the England Women's Under nineteens.
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The Blaze CEO said they conducted an exhaustive global search
to find the best candidate.
Speaker 4 (45:09):
And number three.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
Former South African left arm fast bowler Lonoabo Subi, along
with Fami Solicily and Ethie Malati, have been arrested and
charged with multiple counts of corruption related to their involvement
in a match fixing scandal during the Ram Slam T
twenty Challenge, a domestic T twenty league in South Africa.
The charges alleged that the players either accepted or agreed
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to accept improper gratification in exchange for actions that can
rise the integrity of the sport. In English, the players
are accused of collaborating with Indian bookmakers to influence match outcomes.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
Here we go, there's are three things.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
Thank your first today, Dylan.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
That sounds a really light price for Don Bradman cap, though,
so seeps. Yeah, I will go for that one. I'll
go the Don Bradman cap surely gets more than a
pidly three hundred and nine thousand.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Ninety Actually that was it. I'll go for the same story.
Did you say what can you do that? Yeah, for
a different reason. Did you say Paul Ford that it
was his last home series?
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Yeah it was.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
Yes, I'm saying it wasn't. Oh, okay, well you're both incorrect.
The former coach it's number two coming appointment does not
follow Chris Rodgers, the ginger head Australian opening Batsman. But
some random I've never heard of called Christopher Guest.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
Yeah, he's a film director, isn't he?
Speaker 1 (46:49):
That's a world guest.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
Didn't you do the one about the Craft style show
and spinal tap? The spinal tap?
Speaker 4 (46:55):
Wasn't he oh maybe I don't know. I'm not that old.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
I'll tell you what though.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
I had a note with Chris Rodgers there too, but
then I thought, no, it's probably right the trophy.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
You write it down, the trophy says with hardy Jay.
In the meantime, Dylan, it goes to.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
I'll take it to the base.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Hey. But right now it's time for the ever popular
Dylan Cleavers. Who am I?
Speaker 4 (47:15):
It's Dylan Cleavers, who am I? Yes?
Speaker 2 (47:21):
Last week the answer was Luke Ronkey of course, born
in Denny Virke, which literally translates to Dane's work, which
was the huge fortification entrenchment dug across the Danish Smith
to protect against the marauding Saxons. But of course I'm
telling you nothing you don't already know there.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Jason, Yeah, man, I knew that.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
Denny Vick. Interestingly enough, was also the birthplace of the
celebrated You're in Chatfield and the less celebrated Queens and
Premier Joe Bielke Peterson and.
Speaker 4 (47:53):
The even less celebrated John Parker I believe.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
Oh maybe his brother Mary too, who knows, And there
brother Kenneth. That was a win. Anyway, I'm giving the win.
We had the usual suspects Matt Parker and Lockey and
his dad obviously got it right. But I'm giving the
win to Rob Connell, who said we love him here
in Perth. So anyway, this week who am I? I
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compiled one of the most extraordinary Test careers in New
Zealand history, if only for the fact that was built
upon the flimsiest of pretexts. I played just sixteen days
of first class cricket in total, yet managed to squeeze
two Tests into that. Yes, you heard me correctly. My
rapid elevation was based almost entirely on an eighteen wicket
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hall in a club game while representing the first eleven
of New Zealand's oldest state school. After that headline grabbing feet,
I had to go into Ireland to play for my
home team in the Plunket Shield. I took a five
for on my first class debut against Auckland and that
was enough to see me selected to play the NCC,
as England's touring team was known in those days, controversially
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picked ahead of a bloke whose Christian names were der
went Rahl. I didn't enjoy a lot of success, but
then again, who did. What was notable was that, following
that series, I played just one more first class game.
I wouldn't be forgotten, however, because a few years later,
a floppy heired spinner with the middle name of Luca
would break my most cherished record. Need one more clue,
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Here's a little sweetener for you. I was an employee
of the Colonial Sugar Refinery. My work took me to
Fiji for twenty years, where I managed the national cricket team,
then back to Sydney where I died not far from
Wentce I was born.
Speaker 4 (49:38):
Who am I?
Speaker 2 (49:42):
You've got no idea? I can tell what it up
in your face?
Speaker 1 (49:45):
Not a clue, Not a clue.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
I think, Yeah, I think I do know? Was his
brother in Shawshank redemption?
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Ah, very good, very good?
Speaker 1 (49:57):
Okay, right now it's time for Paul Wards cricket violence corner.
Poor Forwards cricket violence corner.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
Yeah, pretty low level petty theft this week, no blood
Sport after the eye curdling photo of the poor cricket
umpire until this week, police are investigating the theft of
several items from Hagley Oval during the first Test match.
UK broadcast to Talk Sport reported it had two cameras stolen,
which meant it could not provide images of the day
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three of the.
Speaker 4 (50:27):
Cricket test on its YouTube channels.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
The venue owner, Venues Ototahi, who I think have banned
the Alternaive Commentary collective from being at the ground, confirmed
there was a security breach and the cameras were among
several items taken from a locked area. Some of the
things we are aware of are some venues Oto Tahi
technology equipment like laptops, a TV, alcohol and some food.
Speaker 4 (50:48):
Sounds like a really high level operation.
Speaker 3 (50:51):
Venues Ototahi chief executive Caroline Harvey Tear said the company
has twenty four to seven security at the site, but
was disappointed the break and occurred. It was all locked up.
Obviously we're concerned about what's happened. This is not something
that's happened before, certainly not on my watch and not
in my tenure.
Speaker 4 (51:06):
So there we go.
Speaker 3 (51:07):
Hopefully there's they're good buggers from talkSPORT to get their
kept back, or at least you can get to a
shop and stock up in time for the basin.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
Was I the only thing stolen the oval that week?
Either a bit of pride and a few reputations as well.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
Shofty boom, Hey, thanks for taking the time to listen
to this podcast. In fact, if we love your correspondence.
By the way, so people, if people want to get
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Speaker 1 (51:43):
Dylan, what's going on in the bounds? Mate?
Speaker 2 (51:45):
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Speaker 1 (52:01):
Yeah. Well, let's hope next time we join you you
join us. I mean we've got bitter news. Let's up
for a more comprehensive performance from our fellas and leveling
up the series. Eh. Until then, you take care and
we'll see you later.
Welcome to the B Y and C Podcast, brought to
you by Max Rath Premium insulated concrete slabs, and sadly
we find ourselves reflecting on a somewhat baffling performance from
the black Caps. After the obvious highs of the tour
to India, there were hopes to form would continue through
to the English series. Instead, we found ourselves with a
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bad case of the dropsies. There is no logical explanation
as to why this would manifest. We know this side
is infinitely capable in the field, as evidenced by our
stunning performance in the first innings of the first Test
against India. The reality is you can't give the likes
of Harry Brooks four chances and not expect to be punished.
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What's clear is the black Caps need to be at
the top of their game if they have any chance
of complete out competing against the English and Dylan Cleaver,
I know you've heard the phrase the yips, yeah, and
usually that refers to golfs an individual who suddenly gets
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the yips? Is there such a thing as the collective yips?
Where teams start dropping catches and like a virus, it
infects everyone and people start tensing up. Is there such
a thing, because it's weird how that happens, isn't it
How a few catches a mess and all of a
sudden it becomes a plague. Almost.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah, you wouldn't think so, would you, Because some of
the guys dropping those catches are our most reliable fielders exactly.
Tom Latham is an excellent fielder. But there is one
thing that really bugs me about this. And just allow
me a little rent for a second.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
But we were anticipating it, Paul.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I cannot I cannot stand this thought.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
I actually thought Dylan might be quite happy with that performance,
So I'm actually intrigued to hear what he might have
to say.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I cannot stand the narrative that has a merged from
Scary Head and Tom Latham that things could have been
so different if we just held those catches. Well, they
didn't hold those catches correct. Things could have been so
different if Tom Latham had turned US forty seven into
two hundred and forty seven, but he didn't do that either.
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Things could have been so different if the plane carrying
England to New Zealand clipped the remarkables instead of landing
next to John Davies Oval, but it didn't like, it's
not bad luck that you drop catches. It's bad cricket.
And everything seems to have been washed away from Hagley Oval.
But oh you know, if those catches had stuck, things
would have been so different. Yeah, they might have been,
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but you didn't. I own it, own your mistakes.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Thank you, Dylan. I wholeheartedly agree with you. And you know,
it's almost interesting, wasn't it, Paul, That the lead that
they got over us, which in the end was crucial,
was almost directly connected to drop catchers. And and Dylan's right,
you can't say, oh, you know, we didn't hold our catchers.
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If that hadn't happened, it would have been a close
test match. He's exactly right. You didn't hold those catches,
you drop them, and so that's the game. And if
you don't, you know, take your chances, you lose.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah, And I think it is that point. You know,
it's sort of unlucky. You know, it's not like you
lost the toss or it rained when you were when
you were about to catch the ball. It wasn't it
wasn't luck. It wasn't about luck. It was it was
a skill based balls up. So yeah, look it was
really really frustrating, and I said it on the a
SEC commentary over the weekend, but it just feels like
this is what this game is going to be remembered for.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Not Brooks runs or cast As wickets.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Or you know, the the emergence of the of the
prodigy Jacob Ethel or Nathan Smith's debut or whatever. You know,
all of these sort of things around that game. It's
going to be remembered for, Oh, that was that bloody
terrible game when you Dealan dropped eight catchers and I
guess the guy I felt sorry for were Smith three
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times three catches dropped off his bowling, Willow Rourke three
catches dropped off his bowling, plus Matt Henry and Glenn
Phillips eight exactly eight chances. And we absolutely let England
off the hook from one hundred and you know we
did it when we were betting, which we can talk
about in a minute. I'm sure you know we were
one hundred and ninety nine for three in that first
innings and we absolutely did it, you know with the
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betting when sorry with the bowling and the fielding off
it when England was seventy one for four in their
first innings. Yeah, just a really, really frustrating game.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
It's inexplicable in a way because as I mentioned, you know,
you think about that first innings against India, Well, we
were utterly magnificent in the field, so we know we
can do it. And we know, as you mentioned, Dylan,
these are good players that are dropping the catchers. So
what the hell is it? But you know, when the
Test match started off, I thought England bowl poorly. I
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thought they were too short, they weren't getting it up there,
and they weren't making the New Zealanders pay. And you know,
we took sort of full advantage and we got ourselves
in premium sort of situation.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Well wait, not full advantage, not full advantage, some advantage.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Some advantage, and then we blew it. And you know,
it's my feeling that England has the ward on us.
I think of that series in England where we were
competitive and every single Test match and lost every single
Test match. They came here, did us again apart from
that final Test where we kind of stole it, miracled it, Yeah,
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miracled it. So we have to be at our absolute
best to compete with these guys and we simply weren't.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, that's five out of six tests England have beatn
New Zealand and pretty much convincingly. Like, yes, you did
mention we were in those Tests in England, but it
was still five wickets, five wickets, seven wickets. Yes on
the scorecard. That's a bit of a thumbing to be honest,
but yeah, Look, I like the fact you brought up
that first innings England when the task that's meant to
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be a massive advantage at Hegley. They did in bowl
particularly well. I thought Chris Wolkes was worse than average,
he was very Tom Latham battered like a dream and
I guess my disappointment with that is that forty seven
could have, should have might have been one hundred and
forty seven. He was batting that well and he went
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out to that frustrating thing that he does where he
looks to work the ball wider mid on through midwicket,
when you know the maker's name back past the bowler,
you know who knows what he could have done. He
loves batting. It had be able. That's a critical factor
for me is that there hasn't got enough attention. I
don't think granted, India was a bowler series, but that
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is now eight tests New Zealand have gone and they've
scored one century and that eight Test span that's fifteen
completed innings. I'm not counting the one where they chased
down one hundred, yeah, because you don't get a chance
to get a century obviously, but fifteen completed innings where
only ratcheans hundred at Bengalou is the only three figure score.
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Tom Latham has gone thirty three Test innings without a
Test century. Yeah, that's an enormous amount of innings. You'd
never last in Australia with that sort of number. Conway's
gone twenty eight. That's your two openers, the bedrock of
your team. You add those numbers up as extraordinary. Really.
Williamson ten innings, which is not many, but it's still
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blow path for him. Revenge is the only one who
can be excused. He got that one in Benglaru. He's
gone six innings. Mitchell's gone twenty two completed innings without
a ton. Tom Blundell, we'll get to him soon, twenty
six innings. Ben Phillips hasn't scored a Test century yet.
I mean, he's limited opportunities. And if we think Will
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Young's the savior. As much as I love Will Young,
he's had thirty two innings himself without a test century.
So there's a real lack of theft in that top seven.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Well, you mentioned that last week where they said, you.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Know, am I repeating myself?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
No? No, But you made the point. I think it was
in reference to an artist call, which was this is
because of the batting depth in New Zealand cricket, and
you went, well, no, hang on, And I've been thinking
and pondering this to Paul Forward and I want to
draw your attention to it. And that is Conway. You know, he,
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I guess had a few knocks in India. He was
under a lot of pressure. I'm not convict, and he
looked all at sea, let's be honest, in India. But
he did get some runs. But I'm not convinced that
he's an Emmy kind of form and he still has
that inclination, that little inside edge, that back coming just
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outside the off stump and leaving that gap between the
bat and the pad. I'm not convinced about Conway still,
and I still don't know that he's in great neck.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
They pissed off and him there and he looks increasingly
frosh straighted.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
I mean I had a quick look.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
I think he's last twelve months, I think nine bats
averaging twenty one against the sort of overall average of
thirty eight thirty nine, rapidly declining overall average. Yeah, he
is really really battling, and frankly he was. You know,
he didn't get out to a particularly good ball. He
got out to a good court and bold opportunity in
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that first innings, but it was one of a number
of I don't know, just lack of daisical wickets, you know,
ratch and hitting a.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Full toss to midwicket.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Mitchell got a leading edge, blundle, lazy slap to point
Smith Henry Southy show or whatever they do what they do.
But yeah, it's that frustration of the guys that are
good getting in and they're not going on to score
the big scores. And then, yes, I agree, it does
feel like Conway's been worked out by good international bowlers.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah, and it's interesting, you know what do we end
up with in the end in that first innings three
forty eight. You know, for it it should have been
been but I was like, okay, it's there or thereabouts.
I think Henry sal the O'Rourke and Psmith are going
to bowl well and better than this England did on
this wicket. We had them in trouble, but you simply
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can't give a player of Harry Brook's class that many chances.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, I got to the point where I was even
I was asking the question, is he actually even betting? Well? Sure,
I didn't actually even think he was betting particularly well.
He was thumping the ball quite effectively, but thumping it
in the air to field is quite often as well.
So you know, it was a weird It was a
weird test, and even feels weird talking about this now,
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because you know, we've just come off the greatest series
in New Zealand history, American series, and it feels like
we've gone from boom to bust very quickly. And I'm
wondering if we're overreacting to this, if if the drop
catches such a visceral feeling of frustration that it kind
of leaks or leeches into all your thinking about the
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game because we bet it. Okay, you win the you
lose the toss, and you first straight back into it,
it's okay. And even the second innings, Paul's dead right.
Some of the wickets were almost comical. How does show
upsher get four wickets in that first and on the
first is at Oval?
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
And another point, did we make a mistake not playing
a spinner?
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah? Well I was wondering that too.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Looking very samey same, weren't we?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Yes, I you know, in terms of we look at
that performance against India took everyone by surprised. It was stunning.
I've kind of felt like we're back in the place
we were before that Test series where we were all going, well,
it's a bit gloomy, it's a bit sort of, you know,
not great. I want to get your thoughts Paul Ford
on Smith. I like the cut of his jib. I
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think he's going to bring something to the game. I've
never seen him play before. He looks a very handy
bowler and he looks a very handy batsman to me.
And I like the look of him, but of an
issue with no balls and so forth, But I think
he's got something to offer.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Yeah, I agree, I agree.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
He looked he looked busy, looked full of a VENGEI
looked pumped up. He looked like Ian, both of them
as well, with his mullet and his mustache, and you
know credit for that as well. Yeah, I don't think
he did a lot wrong. As I say, created a
bunch of opportunities. For get Joe Route out for a
duck in your first spell in test cricket, you're probably
doing something right. Bettered nicely in the second innings. Looks
very comfortable. I think Dylan's mentioned the fact that he's
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a he's a bloody good athlete. You know, he's a
he's fit as a fiddle. Yeah, it looks looks like
they've picked the right guy. And the interesting thing maybe
we'll talk about it in a sec is is he
even going to be there at the base?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Probably not.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah, well that's the other thing. Brighton cass Yep, he
will the cast blaster he reminded me of it's bloody
gone out of my head now. Hammerson, Harmerson, he has
that same kind of He looked the most threatening of
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their bowlers. I agree with you. I thought Whites was
woeful in that first innings, but I looked at this guy.
He's got height, he hits the deer card, looks a
good bowler. And he proved problematic for us.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
He kind of looks like he could be a roadie
your guitar check. Sure for a hard rock band too,
doesn't He's got that kind of look about him. But yeah, awkward.
And the same with Gus Akinson, who wasn't particularly good
on that first innings either because he kept on having
no ball problems and his Him and Stokes were beside
themselves with their front foot slipping on that front front line. Yes,
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but Atkinson and cast together I think, you know, it's
always you've always got to have a caveat there with
fast bowling attacks. A lot depends on injuries, but those
two did look quite menacing and awkward. Guess still we
had our chances.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Stunning statistic stunning statistic about Casts. I don't know if
you saw this that he's the first England baseballer to
take ten wickets away from England in sixteen years.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Wow, unreal.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
He's got nineteen wickets and three Tests, and nine of
those wickets were in Pakistan, hardly a mecca.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
For bowling of his style. You would have.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Thought absolutely there was a lot of chat about the
young fellow Jacob Bethel. Yeah, I think absolutely, and I
also it was a situation in that second innings where
it was like I almost felt like they sort of said,
all right, young was a freebie. You've got nothing to
lose here, just have a crack. And so he had
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that freedom, you know what I mean. But he does
look at prospect.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah, they've gone to town on that second innings in England, Yes,
if they've just uncovered lost Leonardo. I didn't think it
was that good. I think the first innings was probably
a little bit more instructive where he actually battled pretty hard, yes,
but then went out to a good nut. Yeah. I
mean like it was a decent game for the number three's,
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wasn't it. Our own one was pretty handy too.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Yes, well, you know, and let's talk about Caine. Williamson
just slided right back in ninety odd in that first
ninety three I think it was nine thousand test runs
clearly our best and Paul forward he showed it. Just
to just shame he didn't go on with it in
that first innings.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Yes, scratched around a little bit at the start of
the innings, as caanees want to do, but then he
just started to look increasingly assured. It's like he's just
going through a net session and warming into his work.
And yeah, just say first, keeping it to nine thousand runs.
And I don't really care about nine thousand because ten
thousands just seems so much cooler. So hopefully, hopefully he's
still around, you know, just to me, thousands a bit
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like one hundred and fifty. It's not really worth celebrating.
But gee, he's what's he now, thirteen hundred runs ahead
of Ross Taylor.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Something like that.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Yes, almost starting to mow down, starting to mow down
some of the big dogs of world cricket.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
That's the sort of thing I would have expected Cleaver
to say. Not you, Paul Ford. I thought you would
have been frothing at the mouth about the fact that
he got nine thousand tests runs. I would have thought
Cleaver was the one that went on. He had nine
thousand cares. All right, So there we are. Let's look
ahead to the second Test. Have been an audio for
many Oh yes, okay, let's go to it.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
We're up for media today, which would suggest that you're playing.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Have you been given the nord No?
Speaker 5 (16:17):
I was a look at the pitch. Looks pretty green
to me, But.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
It seems the spins mate, you know, I love that shameworn.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
No, obviously we'll wait and see. You know, obviously a
few days out looks pretty green at the moment.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
So but yeah, well, last time your ball with the
reborn Test matches, you've got thirteen wickets.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
How much of a rosy glowe you carry into your
next test potentially on Friday.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Wow, it could be a lot different conditions, I'd imagine.
I think if it was like would be pretty happy.
But yeah, obviously, I guess it was just great to
be part of that series. You know, all three games
were pretty different and everyone chipping at different times, which
you know is good, good for the squad and it's
good for I guess for us to go forward and yeah,
obviously look to turn around the last pretick.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah. So the gossip is then that Santana may be
coming in for Smith.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah, it seems likely. I mean, if you're just going
purely on what they brought to the table at Hagley,
I'd be more tempted to drop Suvie than yeah Smith,
But I just don't think they're going to.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
I can I just touch on that, And I think
it was from some correspondence we got Paul Ford regarding
Salvie in his record where he was averaging twenty eight
for the first godd eighty odd Test matches and for
the last twenty odd he's averaged sort of forty three
or something horrendously, you know, So there's been a real
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drop off with Salvey.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Yeah, that is absolutely right, VISTI all center.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
I think terrible, terrible poker face from him, well poker
audio at least going out there and starting to talk
about the green pitch. Jason Pine brilliantly all over him
on that one. Santa has three for one hundred and
twenty three in three innings at the base and so
averaging forty one. Hardly frightening statistics. But you know, if
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Bisher can get wickets then he definitely can. Yes, the
Saudi drop off. I had a quick look the last
twelve months. His bowling average has gone from a career
average of thirty ticked over to thirty. It has been
fifty four across ten matches, so you know, a massive,
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massive drop off in form for him.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Yeah, it's problematic.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
And as I mentioned before, you know these are who
the chances were off, Henry Smith, Phillips and Willow Rourke.
So there were eight drop catches zero off Tim SOUVII,
so not really getting the wickets and not actually creating
the chances.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
I think it's a pretty.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Difficult like it does feel like it is a hope
based selection based on historical performance rather than who we
think is going to be most effective. I think England
will be relatively pleased that Smith it's going to be
stood down for this game.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
I agree, And you know he's announced his retirement and
Jesus what a legend of the game he's been, no question,
and he's been such a great servant for New Zealand cricket.
But we can't be pissing around with this sort of stuff,
Dylan Cleve. And my whole view is we pick the
best side in the side that we think is going
to win the next Test match. And you've just, to
my mind, you've got to give Smith another run over
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sent Now, as much as I respect sent Over, Salvie, sorry,
as much as I respect Salvie, you've got to make
hard calls like that. Surely.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah, I would tend to agree. And I think one
of the underrated factors on Southey's decline as well is
he hasn't got to sit and follow up the other
end bowling left arm swinging it into the pads, which
means that his right arm swinging away from the outside
edge becomes even more effective. I think that that not
enough people have sort of credited that for the drop off.
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I think it's got to play a huge partner and
then Wagoner coming in bowling the short stuff, which unfortunately
I think they're kind of they're giving that role to
Smith and O'Rourke a bit now, and it's a bit
of a shame. I wouldn't I noticed when England do
the short ball attack, it's principally Ben Stokes that leads
it with the old ball. I would not like to
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see Smith and O'Rourke in particular hit down that route
that early. But you know, these are the cards that
I guess they're playing with now.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah, you know one of the you know, there's a
few players under pressure Latham as you know all the
batsmen really is, as stated a Latham Conway. There's a
lot of questions being asked about Blundle and his lack
of form drop some catches too, you know, and Gary
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Stead has been quite emphatic he's backed him all the
way and said he he will return to form. Yeah,
you know he is.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I have a problem with that already, do.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
So do I?
Speaker 2 (20:59):
I think he's so out of form now. Yes, that
they're working on the old stop clock is right twice
a day theory with Blundle. They figure if they keep
wheeling him out, eventually he's going to get some runs.
Like Henry Nichols did. He was a literable, right, they
could go see told you the whole loyalty thing. You've
got to trust us. Yeah, but we had eleven tests
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of nonsense in between.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yes, that's right. And you know, in terms of the
hard calls, Paul Forward, do we go Smith over Southe?
Do we go Young over Conway? For example? Tough calls?
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Yeah, yeah, Well Blunder, I mean Blunda the last twelve
months averaging fourteen with the bat, nineteen below his career average,
So jeez, yeah, just scary, scary loss of form. What
i'd I'd definitely be dropping him below Phillips and the
betting order. Phillips is averaging sort of thirty nine, nearly
forty over the last twelve months, so I think he's
earned that little promotion. But yeah, look, I just can't
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see Stead and Wells doing anything other than picks out
there and just saying, you know, we trust the old
dog to come in and do something fantastic for us.
I just actually can't see them doing it. But as
I think that's a call that i'd make. Yeah, look,
I know that Young is probably not a compelling case,
but it does feel like, you know, I think this
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could be. I think Conway is that he is on
the precipice here in this Test match against the base
at the basin. So yeah, I think it's whether it's
one match too many or is it the great redemption?
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Has Dylan mentioned?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Well? Yeah, And I just want to mention something that
you put forward last week, Dylan, which was that Latham
takes the gloves, maybe drops down the order, maybe you
get Will Young up there opening, which again is so
unfair on Will Young, putting him, you know, in a
place that he's not best suited. But you know, horses
for courses type scenario. Can I just ask you both
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in terms of, you know, with Blundle, where is the
strait swat.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Well, they can't within the squad that they've got unless
they do it with Latham, as we mentioned, and that's
non elegant solution and it's not something you could ever
imagine Gary Stead doing. But I mean the thing with
keeping on picking Blundle is also there's another factor in
this and what message does that send to the guys
that are slogging it out on the first class circuit
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next to scoring runs, you know, playing excellently, And you've
got Gary Steed standing up in front of the media
saying that Blundle's our guy, you know, and I think
that must be quite demoralizing. In fact, I know it's demoralizing,
and I know it's been talked about quite a bit,
but yeah, I mean they've just locked into this. We
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keep on I keep on using this word anyway, dogmatic.
They're just so dogmatic about their selections and you know
blundaway come out in score hundred.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Well, I just want to read Sam Wells actually said
this week because they said, you know, why are you
persisting with.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Blundle at number six?
Speaker 3 (24:10):
And it was like, he's got this history of big
partnerships with Daryl Mitchell at number five, that's literally the reason. Yeah,
but if you look at the statistics on that, I
think they actually, I know they've had some big partnerships
against England in that series that we've lost three nil.
But their partnership average is sort of about forty or fifty.
It's not like they average a million, you know. And
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over the last year he's averaging less than all the
batsmen and five of the bowlers as well.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yeah, I just want to get to some correspondence sent
to us by Andy Bairn, and I'm just going to
cut to the end of it if you don't mind Fellers,
because that's sort of relevant to what we've been talking about.
And he says, oh, well, to the basin Blunder's Blundell
needs a break, as does Devon sal He doesn't deserve
a spot, regardless of him choosing this to be his
last Test series. The way he threw away his wicket
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when he and Mitchell were going along quite nicely and
Mitchell had maybe twenty to get to his tongue was
typical of how he's been playing at the moment, recklessly and.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Not well, yeah, well he's got points here. Would I'd
be reluctant to put sow he's batting into the mix
as to whether he's worthy of a spot or not.
Mitchell was actually quite a lot further away than twenty
from his tongue when Sowdy was trying to break the
sixers record. The simple fact is that Sowdy can't defend
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down He's got no defensive technique as soon as someone
bowls the ball.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Which is weird, Why couln't you not defend?
Speaker 2 (25:34):
He's scared of the ball. He cannot play the bouncer.
The only hope he has got against the short ball
is to flick a few out of the ground and
get them to go full at him again.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
And yeah, it's funny you should say that, because when
we were doing the commentary he really passed off with
the short bowling, and he just stepped aside and went,
all right, I'm having a tank. That's what I'm going
to do is have a tank. That's all.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
So it looks ugly, but scoring twelve heading two sixes
and getting caught on the boundary is actually more useful
than getting hit on the tits a few times and
then gloving one up to gully for six. You know.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah, sure, how many sixes is he on now? Is
it ninety three or ninety four? Ninety five?
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yeah? Two more to get to seyweg Oh, he's past
seweg isn't he He's got two more to get to
Chris Gail. Imagine me sound they having more chest six
is than Chris Gale. It's just ludicrous.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
It's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Now.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Well, so I tell you what I'm fizzing about this
Basin test match. It's always a great sort of spectacle
for our summerpool forward. What are you hoping for here?
Apart from a victory?
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Yeah, well yeah, just another I'd like a close game,
to be honest. I'm happy to take New Zealand. I
don't want us to lose. I don't think it's going
to be a drawer. I think there might be a
bit of moisture around on Sunday, But despite the over
eight finals, these two teams are just going to blaze
through it and you four playing days, aren't they?
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Look I would love to see our beat it's coming
to form.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
I'd love to see us drop fewer than three catches
across the entire match, and I'd love to see km
Williamson rack up another milestone, pets an enormous partnership with
Devin Conway or Ratch and Revendra.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Yeah, what are your hopes and dreams for the second
test Heed Dylan, what do you want to.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
See our comprehensive victory?
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Yeah, okay, I'd like to see us.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Win the toss insert England when it's still green. I'd
like to see us run through as ball mentioned hold
the catchers. Cain Williamson turn one of those delightful starts
into another. Biggie Mitchell Sentner, Glenn Phillips pitch takes turn
go through England. The second dig or wrapped up while
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I'm sitting on the bench at a trial at the
Auckland District Court.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Great stuff, mate, And with that we have a hunch
for the game thanks to the tab and we are
going for the hairy rav to be in the runs
at home at the basin in the first innings, correct and.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Versus paying five dollars eighty.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
So yeah, chuck one hundred bucks on that and we'll
have five hundred and eighty dollars back. Thanks very much,
and you can rely on us because we got it
right last week. The silver lining of New Zealand getting
pumped by England at Hagley was that our bet did
come in Fellas Kam Williamson was the top score.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Great stuff. I'll tell you what we'll take a quick
break and we'll be back shortly. Yes, welcome back to
the BYC. So another test series which I've been love
and I was pissed off there was such a big
break between the test matches, I'll be honest with you.
So we've got the Basin Test going on, great times
also Australia Versus India and the Pink Test Adelaide starts
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five pm Friday, Dyllion Clean, you're looking forward to it.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Beautiful times on again?
Speaker 1 (28:44):
How good?
Speaker 2 (28:45):
So you spend that last hour of the Basin Test
kind of with half an eye on a second screen. Yes,
maybe you're crick and for live updates, but you're still
watching New Zealand and England and then you flick over
immediately get your nacho's out there. A couple of vegetarian
nats vegetarian nature.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Vegetarian Sure, how long have you been a vegetarian for?
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Since I was about eighty months old? That's true story.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Do you eat meat? Did you eat meat before that?
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Well? They my parents tried to feed me meat, but
I kept on getting sick and it was neat was
identified as the issue.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Wow, I've never heard of that.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Hell, you can do this.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
I had no idea. Oh that's great stuff.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
You know.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
All I'm looking forward to that are Hazels, course out,
injured bowl and the lightly replacement. What what the hell
has happened to him? He was phenomenal when he packed
his matches. His record was ridiculous and he just doesn't
seem to be in the mix anymore.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
He is here, obviously, they call him the horses for
courses type bowl. I don't like nibbles a bird. He's
not the classic Australian thump it and the deck hard,
but he's more along the deck, kept the scene at
the edge. So I think I mean he's there or
there abouts. But that's a pretty tough lineup to true true.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Yeah, well has Everage's twenty point three in Test cricket
ten matches, thirty five wickets. Yeah, and of course that
ridiculous six for seven. But you know he's no spring
chicken either. What he's nearly thirty six years old. And
this is you know, this problem that Australia has is
that they have been so consistent with their team that
their succession planning is a bit shitty when they get
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a surprise injury like Josh Josh Hazerwood being out with
the side strain. You know it's either Home or Sean
Abbot or Brendan Doggett, but all got all of them
over thirty.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
There is something wrong with Marsh tour, isn't there.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Yeah, he's not going to be bowling and this not
able to bowl. Bou Chapeau added to the squad, never
heard of him, meaning he is in line to be
the first French born player to represent the Baggy Green.
Are you taking the pass here again? Yes? I knew it.
I knew it, bou Chapa good head. Well that's because,
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funnily enough, I actually watched a lot of the first
class Australian cricket and I was like chapone never bloody
ahead of them.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
That's a typo.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
And he's he's thirty years old as well, thirty wickets
and nine hundred runs in.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
The Sheffield Shield last summer.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
He used the bowl offspin now of course, just decided
to bowl medium pace and yeah Marsh. If Marsh can't bowl,
they'll want to have a you'd expect they want to
have an all rounder in there. So he's the next
cab off the rank.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
What's what's the story with Green at.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
The moment, Beck Indury right on for the season. I think.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Okay, India on the other handed, embarrassment of Richard. Some
players coming back into it, of course, Sharma, Gil, Judasia
and Ashwyn. Yeah what what I mean? We were talking
about how good then he opened in the second innings.
I think it was first job on the first innings.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
K open both he opened both eggs.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Okay, he looked good and right. Sharma's kind of been
out of form where he was against us.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Yeah, and he's got bad bone body language, whereas Boomera.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Was superbos scape.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Yeah yeah, yeah, tough choice of the male.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Says that Sharma will bat down the order and they'll
keep that opening partnership, which what they got two hundred
and something in one of those innings, didn't they? So
Sharma will dropped down the order. Subwarn Gillill come in,
they'll drop Padakahal and Jerrell I think it is. And
then a bit of speculation about Washington Sunda, a few
calls for Judasia to get in there, but or Ashwin.
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But looking at the Prime Minister eleven game that they
played in that annoying break, Jason, Judasia only bowl five
overs and Ashwan didn't bowl at all, So if you
were betting, apparently you would be betting that Washington Sundaw
would retain his place. So yeah, the other the other
bloke that they've got still waiting in the wings, and
I had I had a look. It's pretty hard case
Mohammad Shami. He's still in India with a stuffed ankle.
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But you've literally got media state picking out his house
like a papal conclave, waiting for the smoke to come
out of the chimney that he's going to be okay
and flow into the to Australia to join the Ashes
sorry the border Givasca squad after Christmas.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
So yeah, only only in India.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Yeah, it's extraordinary to think when you really put your
mind to it, that plays like Ashwyn, who has a
phenomenal record Judasia likewise, you know, struggling to get in
the side. I almost get the feeling that Ashwyn is
quite unpopular, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
I remember what.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
I've been listening to Chimpagne.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Well, Chimpagne, he was not even your teammates, like your mate,
you know, is there is there something about because he's
a prickly customer on the field. Umpires must hate him,
I reckon they must go, oh God, because he's always
he's always gesticulating. He's always sort of talking to the
skipper or the umpire. What was wrong with that kind
of thing? What is the story there?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
My understanding is he's not a particularly popular character, but
neither it's a coach Brandy that Gautam Gambia is complete
pain in the ass too, So.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
It's going to be fascinating they deal.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
With these things. You don't have to. What's the old
thing that the All Blacks always fall back on, the
nove dickeads policy. Yes, you don't have to have that
in every team in the world.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
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Now Philip Hughes fellas ten years ago away?
Speaker 3 (34:52):
You go, yeah, well, I mean, I guess, just to
remind us, I've got it's scary that it's ten years ago.
What was he twenty five years old, got strang, kind
of struck by that bouncer on the side of the
head playing that Shield game, mister hook, cerebral hemorrhage after surgery.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Rushed to hospital.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
I think it all happened at the SCG from memory
and you know, really a massive, massive funeral at his
hometown of Maxville, A small town country boy who was
absolutely beloved. And you know, I've seen a few pieces
of this written over the last week or so, just
saying yeah, Now, every time you see a player get
hit in the head, you think of Philip Hughes and
you think what could happen and it's yeah, I guess
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it cast a shadow over the game in a way
and made us realize, you know, the element of danger
that people take on when they go out there and
face these frightening bowlers. Some lovely words from his family,
you know that they said that Philip was a small
town country boy. Australian test one day and T twenty cricketer.
He played on the toughest pictures around the globe, alongside
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the toughest of cricketers on the world stage, but he
never forgot where he came from and who helped along
the way. And you know, I think there was a
line this is the New Zealand connection, I think, and
I'm projecting this, but I know Brendan McCullum had a
I don't know if he knew and particularly well or
they seem to connect, but he had a line which said,
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where would you rather be boys than playing cricket for
your country? And I feel like that's something that Brendan
McCullum has brought into the New Zealand environment and he's
doing it now for England.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Fantastic had a tragedy that was and he was fondly
remembered and it continues to be fondly remembered. A significant
decision Fellers immediately facing the ICC is the venue of
the twenty twenty five Champions Trophy, which is supposed to
be in Pakistan.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Dylan Kleaver, Yeah, so India refusing to travel there basically
in Pakistan and not willing to compromise either because they said, now,
hang on a minute, we sent our team to the
World Cup in India. We didn't make any demands about
playing that at neutral venues or on our home chef.
But yeah, there's all sorts of geopolitical implications. Yeah, although
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Paul kind of cut through that last week didn't said, well, no,
I think India had just been pricks.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Really, yes, I think the latest on that is that
it sounds like India will play at a neutral venue,
but Pakistan want a cast iron guarantee that when they
when India are hosting tournaments, Pakistan get to go and
play at a neutral venue too, So it's a quid
pro quo.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
The whole bizarre thing about this is just how important
that Pakistan India matchup is, like they have to. One
of the whole reasons the whole pool thing at the
Cricket World Cup is demolished or dismantled was because the
broadcasters in India and the subcontinent, who paid billions of
rupees for it, had to guarantee there would be a
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Pakistan India matchup. So everyone loves the drama of it,
but they just I guess the security implications for political
implications mean that it's become fodder really for politicians.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
It's madness.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
The tournament's on in seventy seven days and there's no schedule.
We don't even know which country it's being played in.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
It's extraordinary crazy stuff, all right, a moment as our hack,
isn't it? But anyway his record West Indies versus are
the Bangers and Kingston Jamaica.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Yeah, well the ban has actually won that test this morning,
so the series has won one. They won it quite
convincing me. But along the way, mominal Hak has achieved
a dubious record of becoming the you got a pair
becoming the batter with the most ducks for Bangladesh. And
I guess the thing that makes that noteworthy is like
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in most countries, it'll be someone like a Danny Morrison
will hand the record on to a Chris Martin who
might eventually hand the record onto a Will O'Rourke. Mominal
Hawk is the top water batter so and funnily enough,
he took the record from a guy called Mohammad Ashraful
who ended up getting done for spot fixing, I believe,
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but who was also a top order betner.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
So it's pretty tough there go well, let's look at
the local game the Plunket Shield. Round three completed the
Otago Vaults three oh one for nine declared and two
thirty one Northern District's Men three sixty five and one
forty five for two. Match drawn, Wellington fire Birds two
fifty one for nine declared and two seventeen Central Stags
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three oh two and one sixty seven for one. Stags
one by nine wickets in the Auckland Aces five hundred
and sixty seven for nine declared, Canterbury four four six
for three, the match drawn. The Nodles brett Hampton and
Northern Districts one hundred and twenty one off eighty six balls.
Mark Chapman for Auckland of course two seventy six, Reese
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Marry You, Marry You, Central one eighty five and Harvey
Nichols one oh three not out.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yeah, maybe it was Canbury one eighty five. It's a
second big big Ton Canterbury. Sorry, yes, executive matches. He's
scored a big double the previous round. Evidently that game,
which is one of the few games Auckland actually get
to play in Auckland this summer. It was a bit
of a joke given me that wicket was as flat
as you're ever gonna find. Chapman obviously enjoyed it, Mary
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and Nichols clearly enjoyed it. But I've noticed a little
bit and kind of message boards you saw a message
boards these days and social media that there's a bit
of a I wouldn't say it's a clamoring, but there's
a little bit of a groundswell for Reece Mary to
be considered for the givin Conway spot maybe, but good
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on him stacking up big runs together. You're going to
be in a conversation, but I think you've got to
do more than have a good week in the blanket
Shield when one of them's on the Eden Park out
of Opal.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Yeah, exactly, he's a he's a he's out of St
Andrew's College too. Is that he played in the same
course he has Team twenty nineteen. I think they were
with Folks and Jesse Frew who's the wikie keeper batsman
from Kennbury. So yeah, pretty decent pedigree there, but as
you say, very early days but definitely definitely one to watch.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Yeah, So Golden Box Rhyes, Marrio four hundred and thirty three.
Nick Caley from Wellington three eighty eight Cheat Raval member him.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
I do remember him. It was the last one that
actually got dropped for former shoes.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Yeah yeah, maybe chuck him back in the three twenty
five The Silver Sweat Band Brett Hampton thirteen, Blair Techna
thirteen De.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Ferned Dendrew Fernstters.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
And jdmmckay twelve. The Table at the Moment, Northern District's
forty six, Central thirty nine, Cannbury thirty three, Auckland twenty five,
Wellington nineteen and Dylan Cleaver's favorite side Otago on eighteen.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Just a little bit like you didn't quite make the
Golden Box. But Dane Cleaver is having a cracking season
there too. He's got more than three hundred runs, averaging
more than one hundred scored, plus fifty three of the
four bats. I mean there's a straight swap if you
if you want to just spick a team that's more
likely to succeed at the moment and the other central.
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I'm giving Central some love here because the selectors never do.
The other central guy to keep an eye on is
Dame Cleaver's heir apparent, who's opening the batting for them.
At the moment is a guy called Curtis Heathey, and
he hasn't had an amazing start of the season, but
he got runs in that second dig and that win
against Wellington. And I know there's a lot of frustration
in Central that Mitch Hay has been anointed as Tom
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Bundle's successor, and they think down there with some justification
that their current guy is better, which is Dame Cleaver,
and the next Feller might be even better. Still.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Right now, I'm looking at a picture here, supers Nae
retro outfits.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Nice, don't you reckon? I'd be happy to wear them.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Yea, they're pretty cool. Actually, I'd were one of those
for sure.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Down the Viaed act to one of those bars.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
It's full of wankers.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
The only shir I wouldn't wear as a Canniby won.
But I think they're quite nice.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
A Sergan fan be in the middle there.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
It looks like the CEO, Hey tell you what, it's
time for pull Ford's News or os.
Speaker 4 (43:21):
J is the reigning champion here.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Yeah, the segments getting changed to pull Ford's Stitch Up
Weekly Stitch Up.
Speaker 4 (43:29):
Well, I thought Jason was amazing with us.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
Thank you amazing as knowledge of woman's anatomy last week anyway,
three things that something wrong with one of them?
Speaker 4 (43:36):
Tell me what it is.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
A baggy green test cap worn by Australia's Don Bradman
sold for three hundred and ninety thousand Ossie dollars at
auction this week. It's collector's vibe to own a rare
piece of cricketing history. The tented garment, almost eighty years old,
was sun faded and showed signs of.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
Insect damage and had a torn peak.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
Auction house Bottoms said Bradman wore the cap during the
nineteen four seven eight tour of Australia by India. This
was his last test series on home soil. The auction
lasted ten minutes. Barnums said it was the only known
baggy green worn by Bradman during the series, in which
he scored seven hundred and fifteen runs at an average
of a lazy one.
Speaker 4 (44:17):
Hundred and seventy nine. Jesus.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
The cat was said to have been given to Pankajh
Peter Kumar Gupta, India's tour manager in nineteen forty eight,
and number two Zach and Jacob Cummings. Dad Craig has
been appointed as the head coach of the Blaze in
the East Midlands for their first season as part of
England's Tier one woman's domestic comp coming and enjoyed success
in his home country with Otago Sparks, leading them to
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two fifty over Halle Burton Johnstone titles in four years.
He will arrive in the UK and the new year
after the conclusion of the Super Smash T twenty competition.
I feel very humbled and privileged, he said. Cumming's appointment
comes after Chris Rogers coached the Blaze to their first
piece of silverware in last season's Charlotte Edward's Cup. He
left to take charge of the England Women's Under nineteens.
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The Blaze CEO said they conducted an exhaustive global search
to find the best candidate.
Speaker 4 (45:09):
And number three.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
Former South African left arm fast bowler Lonoabo Subi, along
with Fami Solicily and Ethie Malati, have been arrested and
charged with multiple counts of corruption related to their involvement
in a match fixing scandal during the Ram Slam T
twenty Challenge, a domestic T twenty league in South Africa.
The charges alleged that the players either accepted or agreed
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to accept improper gratification in exchange for actions that can
rise the integrity of the sport. In English, the players
are accused of collaborating with Indian bookmakers to influence match outcomes.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
Here we go, there's are three things.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
Thank your first today, Dylan.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
That sounds a really light price for Don Bradman cap, though,
so seeps. Yeah, I will go for that one. I'll
go the Don Bradman cap surely gets more than a
pidly three hundred and nine thousand.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Ninety Actually that was it. I'll go for the same story.
Did you say what can you do that? Yeah, for
a different reason. Did you say Paul Ford that it
was his last home series?
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Yeah it was.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
Yes, I'm saying it wasn't. Oh, okay, well you're both incorrect.
The former coach it's number two coming appointment does not
follow Chris Rodgers, the ginger head Australian opening Batsman. But
some random I've never heard of called Christopher Guest.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
Yeah, he's a film director, isn't he?
Speaker 1 (46:49):
That's a world guest.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
Didn't you do the one about the Craft style show
and spinal tap? The spinal tap?
Speaker 4 (46:55):
Wasn't he oh maybe I don't know. I'm not that old.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
I'll tell you what though.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
I had a note with Chris Rodgers there too, but
then I thought, no, it's probably right the trophy.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
You write it down, the trophy says with hardy Jay.
In the meantime, Dylan, it goes to.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
I'll take it to the base.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Hey. But right now it's time for the ever popular
Dylan Cleavers. Who am I?
Speaker 4 (47:15):
It's Dylan Cleavers, who am I? Yes?
Speaker 2 (47:21):
Last week the answer was Luke Ronkey of course, born
in Denny Virke, which literally translates to Dane's work, which
was the huge fortification entrenchment dug across the Danish Smith
to protect against the marauding Saxons. But of course I'm
telling you nothing you don't already know there.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Jason, Yeah, man, I knew that.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
Denny Vick. Interestingly enough, was also the birthplace of the
celebrated You're in Chatfield and the less celebrated Queens and
Premier Joe Bielke Peterson and.
Speaker 4 (47:53):
The even less celebrated John Parker I believe.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
Oh maybe his brother Mary too, who knows, And there
brother Kenneth. That was a win. Anyway, I'm giving the win.
We had the usual suspects Matt Parker and Lockey and
his dad obviously got it right. But I'm giving the
win to Rob Connell, who said we love him here
in Perth. So anyway, this week who am I? I
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compiled one of the most extraordinary Test careers in New
Zealand history, if only for the fact that was built
upon the flimsiest of pretexts. I played just sixteen days
of first class cricket in total, yet managed to squeeze
two Tests into that. Yes, you heard me correctly. My
rapid elevation was based almost entirely on an eighteen wicket
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hall in a club game while representing the first eleven
of New Zealand's oldest state school. After that headline grabbing feet,
I had to go into Ireland to play for my
home team in the Plunket Shield. I took a five
for on my first class debut against Auckland and that
was enough to see me selected to play the NCC,
as England's touring team was known in those days, controversially
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picked ahead of a bloke whose Christian names were der
went Rahl. I didn't enjoy a lot of success, but
then again, who did. What was notable was that, following
that series, I played just one more first class game.
I wouldn't be forgotten, however, because a few years later,
a floppy heired spinner with the middle name of Luca
would break my most cherished record. Need one more clue,
(49:24):
Here's a little sweetener for you. I was an employee
of the Colonial Sugar Refinery. My work took me to
Fiji for twenty years, where I managed the national cricket team,
then back to Sydney where I died not far from
Wentce I was born.
Speaker 4 (49:38):
Who am I?
Speaker 2 (49:42):
You've got no idea? I can tell what it up
in your face?
Speaker 1 (49:45):
Not a clue, Not a clue.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
I think, Yeah, I think I do know? Was his
brother in Shawshank redemption?
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Ah, very good, very good?
Speaker 1 (49:57):
Okay, right now it's time for Paul Wards cricket violence corner.
Poor Forwards cricket violence corner.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
Yeah, pretty low level petty theft this week, no blood
Sport after the eye curdling photo of the poor cricket
umpire until this week, police are investigating the theft of
several items from Hagley Oval during the first Test match.
UK broadcast to Talk Sport reported it had two cameras stolen,
which meant it could not provide images of the day
(50:27):
three of the.
Speaker 4 (50:27):
Cricket test on its YouTube channels.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
The venue owner, Venues Ototahi, who I think have banned
the Alternaive Commentary collective from being at the ground, confirmed
there was a security breach and the cameras were among
several items taken from a locked area. Some of the
things we are aware of are some venues Oto Tahi
technology equipment like laptops, a TV, alcohol and some food.
Speaker 4 (50:48):
Sounds like a really high level operation.
Speaker 3 (50:51):
Venues Ototahi chief executive Caroline Harvey Tear said the company
has twenty four to seven security at the site, but
was disappointed the break and occurred. It was all locked up.
Obviously we're concerned about what's happened. This is not something
that's happened before, certainly not on my watch and not
in my tenure.
Speaker 4 (51:06):
So there we go.
Speaker 3 (51:07):
Hopefully there's they're good buggers from talkSPORT to get their
kept back, or at least you can get to a
shop and stock up in time for the basin.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
Was I the only thing stolen the oval that week?
Either a bit of pride and a few reputations as well.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
Shofty boom, Hey, thanks for taking the time to listen
to this podcast. In fact, if we love your correspondence.
By the way, so people, if people want to get
in touch.
Speaker 3 (51:29):
With us, Paul forward look as an email to b
YC at Beige Brigade dot co dot z. Slide into
the DMS on Instagram or Facebook for the Alternative Commentary
Collective or the bage we go. We'll share it in
our WhatsApp group and we'll chat about it and nextpect.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
Dylan, what's going on in the bounds? Mate?
Speaker 2 (51:45):
You can catch up with mytuperative thoughts on the cricket
as daily at the moment with notes from the Oval,
although I guess next week it will be note or
this week it will be notes from the reserve or
the basin. So yeah, sign up, Dalan Cleave dot subsec
dot com. Let's free.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
Yeah. Well, let's hope next time we join you you
join us. I mean we've got bitter news. Let's up
for a more comprehensive performance from our fellas and leveling
up the series. Eh. Until then, you take care and
we'll see you later.
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