October 6, 2024 • 5 mins
One of New Zealand’s leading primary sector academics agrees with Shane Jones that it’s “too hard to produce food in New Zealand”.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Fortnightly on our website The Country dot co dot nz.
Doctor Jaquelinroweth writes an excellent column today. She is quoting
the great sage Shane Jones. Hello Jack Well, and are
you and the Shane Jones fan club with me?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I'm just watching what he says, because sometimes he's on
the money, and other times I think he's just missed
it somehow, and some of the things he's done have
not had the outcome that he was expecting. And even
he is admitting that forestry wasn't quite what he meant.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
He was also standing behind Jacinda when they banned oil
and gas research. Well that didn't work out, that didn't age.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Well, no it didn't, It really didn't. And now we're
behind the eight ball and we've seen the rocketing prices.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
The words that you quoted in your column are it's
too hard to produce food in New Zealand, and you're
suggesting that should strike a chill in the heart of
every New Zealander because food constitutes seventy percent of our
export economy. If we chuck in fiber, that's another yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
And of course some of that fiber comes from food
because it's sheep producing walls. So the issue is that
income circulating and in New Zealand, everything everything is so interconnected.
People think, oh well it doesn't bother it won't affect me.
If we shut down a plant in ru a pay
who and that's the forest they wood pulp area. But
(01:24):
of course you shut that down, we're a pay who
gets hupped out because people are leaving to go to Australia.
Everything is connected. Six hundred jobs in Timaru dreadful for
timrou and that of course people start looking in the
towns and then there's pressure in either overseas or in
the bigger towns, and then there's pressure on jobs there.
It will affect everybody if we can't get the primary sector.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Humming again ten years ago the economous shammer bill equal
did I get that right? Thank you, thank you. He
sort of invented the term or brought it to attention
zombie towns. And I worry about that. That is going
to affect provincial New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
It will, It's already happening. I do a lot of
driving in a hybrid. I add hastily around the country,
and part of my observation is not just the state
of the pasture. But it's also looking at the number
of raw talents with empty signs, shops for rent sale, whatever,
because people had left to go to bigger places, which
(02:27):
might be Australia, it might be auck Clinton. It just
puts pressure on housing there. It puts pressure on job markets,
and our job market is not great at the moment.
We're ranking lower than Australia, which is of course why
people who are going.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
There, we're we're ranking higher than Australia. In fact, when
it comes to what is it caring for the environment. Yeah,
I mean despite all the critics and the safes and
the green pieces who tell us we're all environmental vendors,
we rank first in the world for caring for the environment.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Absolutely, we do ask statistics and this is the Walk
and Best Country Index are phenomenal in the areas that
we so we care about, which is people, animals' environment,
climate goals with terrific affordability is not great, but so Switzerland,
the top of the ranks in the Best Countries Index,
is practically the bottom in terms of affordability. It's just
(03:20):
we can't have it all, so we need to make
some choices. And Shane Jones's pointing out some of the
choices we need to make and indicating which way we
need to go.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Are you a fan of this fast trekking legislation so
that we can get projects up and running. I certainly am.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
We have to have projects up on running. I'm sorry
that the activists are upset about it and saying people
need more of a say, But people will not be
happy if we lose more jobs and more income and
we start going down the gurgler, because this is what happens.
It's very difficult to turn a cycle around once it's
going in the wrong direction. Ass Tracks should be able
(03:58):
to do that, and I'm hoping, but we can get
some of the things that will actually make it very
much better for the environment and the economy and agriculture,
of course, because agriculture is the economy.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Let's just finish on the weather, and it's very topical.
Obviously at this time of the year, we've been concentrating
on the woes of the South, where, let's face it,
farmers have had their worse spring and memory and it's
an animal welfare problem just waiting to raise its ugly head, unfortunately.
But it's raining all the time. In the Waikato where
(04:33):
you're based, it.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Is and what I know about Southland is that the
living bodies are right in there trying to help those
we're all support trust. There are all sorts of people
trying and the community groups as well trying to help.
And in the Waikato we've just talked of got constant
rain which means that it's very difficult to get the
philogeen and then at the maze back to get the
(04:57):
crops for the next season. Things pushing back. We just
need four days. We just need four days of good
weather and then we can start with the good production.
We're not Our production is holding at the moment, unlike
southund where they have difficulty in getting it back. But
overall the country, just like Shane Jones warned, we should
(05:21):
all be pretty concerned about what is happening with our
major export earner at the moment and saying to the
farmers keep going, you're doing a great job and overall
New Zealand has well being. That is extremely good to
put all of society, including environment and climate golf.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Well, there you go. In summary, we need more of
Shane Jones and more of Big Yellow. Thanks for your time, Jacqueline,
thank you,
Fortnightly on our website The Country dot co dot nz.
Doctor Jaquelinroweth writes an excellent column today. She is quoting
the great sage Shane Jones. Hello Jack Well, and are
you and the Shane Jones fan club with me?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I'm just watching what he says, because sometimes he's on
the money, and other times I think he's just missed
it somehow, and some of the things he's done have
not had the outcome that he was expecting. And even
he is admitting that forestry wasn't quite what he meant.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
He was also standing behind Jacinda when they banned oil
and gas research. Well that didn't work out, that didn't age.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Well, no it didn't, It really didn't. And now we're
behind the eight ball and we've seen the rocketing prices.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
The words that you quoted in your column are it's
too hard to produce food in New Zealand, and you're
suggesting that should strike a chill in the heart of
every New Zealander because food constitutes seventy percent of our
export economy. If we chuck in fiber, that's another yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
And of course some of that fiber comes from food
because it's sheep producing walls. So the issue is that
income circulating and in New Zealand, everything everything is so interconnected.
People think, oh well it doesn't bother it won't affect me.
If we shut down a plant in ru a pay
who and that's the forest they wood pulp area. But
(01:24):
of course you shut that down, we're a pay who
gets hupped out because people are leaving to go to Australia.
Everything is connected. Six hundred jobs in Timaru dreadful for
timrou and that of course people start looking in the
towns and then there's pressure in either overseas or in
the bigger towns, and then there's pressure on jobs there.
It will affect everybody if we can't get the primary sector.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Humming again ten years ago the economous shammer bill equal
did I get that right? Thank you, thank you. He
sort of invented the term or brought it to attention
zombie towns. And I worry about that. That is going
to affect provincial New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
It will, It's already happening. I do a lot of
driving in a hybrid. I add hastily around the country,
and part of my observation is not just the state
of the pasture. But it's also looking at the number
of raw talents with empty signs, shops for rent sale, whatever,
because people had left to go to bigger places, which
(02:27):
might be Australia, it might be auck Clinton. It just
puts pressure on housing there. It puts pressure on job markets,
and our job market is not great at the moment.
We're ranking lower than Australia, which is of course why
people who are going.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
There, we're we're ranking higher than Australia. In fact, when
it comes to what is it caring for the environment. Yeah,
I mean despite all the critics and the safes and
the green pieces who tell us we're all environmental vendors,
we rank first in the world for caring for the environment.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Absolutely, we do ask statistics and this is the Walk
and Best Country Index are phenomenal in the areas that
we so we care about, which is people, animals' environment,
climate goals with terrific affordability is not great, but so Switzerland,
the top of the ranks in the Best Countries Index,
is practically the bottom in terms of affordability. It's just
(03:20):
we can't have it all, so we need to make
some choices. And Shane Jones's pointing out some of the
choices we need to make and indicating which way we
need to go.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Are you a fan of this fast trekking legislation so
that we can get projects up and running. I certainly am.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
We have to have projects up on running. I'm sorry
that the activists are upset about it and saying people
need more of a say, But people will not be
happy if we lose more jobs and more income and
we start going down the gurgler, because this is what happens.
It's very difficult to turn a cycle around once it's
going in the wrong direction. Ass Tracks should be able
(03:58):
to do that, and I'm hoping, but we can get
some of the things that will actually make it very
much better for the environment and the economy and agriculture,
of course, because agriculture is the economy.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Let's just finish on the weather, and it's very topical.
Obviously at this time of the year, we've been concentrating
on the woes of the South, where, let's face it,
farmers have had their worse spring and memory and it's
an animal welfare problem just waiting to raise its ugly head, unfortunately.
But it's raining all the time. In the Waikato where
(04:33):
you're based, it.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Is and what I know about Southland is that the
living bodies are right in there trying to help those
we're all support trust. There are all sorts of people
trying and the community groups as well trying to help.
And in the Waikato we've just talked of got constant
rain which means that it's very difficult to get the
philogeen and then at the maze back to get the
(04:57):
crops for the next season. Things pushing back. We just
need four days. We just need four days of good
weather and then we can start with the good production.
We're not Our production is holding at the moment, unlike
southund where they have difficulty in getting it back. But
overall the country, just like Shane Jones warned, we should
(05:21):
all be pretty concerned about what is happening with our
major export earner at the moment and saying to the
farmers keep going, you're doing a great job and overall
New Zealand has well being. That is extremely good to
put all of society, including environment and climate golf.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Well, there you go. In summary, we need more of
Shane Jones and more of Big Yellow. Thanks for your time, Jacqueline,
thank you,
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