April 3, 2025 • 38 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Todd McClay, Emma Poole, Tim Dangen, Jane Smith, Chris Brandolino, and Barry Soper.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
Good afternoon and get a New Zealand. I'm Jamie McKay.
This is the Country, brought to you by Brandt. Michelle's
chucked in a bit of a clash today just because
we can, well clash does that describe Donald Trump's new
tariff policy. We've had a day to kind of digest it.
So the Minister of Agriculture and Trade, Todd McClay, who's
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been all over the media, but we're going to get
his take, especially what these Trump tariffs mean for New
Zealand farmers. Todd McClay. To kick off the Country today,
We've got an atmospheric river. I think it's still an
atmospheric river over the country. Is it going to be
a drought breaker? We've got an Upper North Island brother
and Sister farming panel, Emma Paul and Tim Dangin, both
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incidentally former Young Farmers of the Year. We'll see how
they're faring in West Auckland in the Waikato region. North
Otago's having a ripper of the season. Jane Smith's there
will get her take on the Trump tariffs from the
Coal Face, Chris Brandellino from NIWA. They've just come out
with their monthly climate summary and no surprise, it was
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drier and warmer than normal in a lot of places.
And Barry Sober if I can track them down, we'll see.
David Seymour's Treaty Principles Bill hasn't gone down that well.
But what about Winston's war on Woke the Greens and
Tapati Mari. We've got all that to do before the
end of the hour. Plus we're going to give you
a chance to join us Tuesday evening in Timaru at
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the spates Ale House for the Side South Island Airy
Event dinner up next to Todd McLay. Todd McLay is the
Minister of Agriculture and Trade. He's had one day to
unpack and digest Liberation Day. Todd, let's cut to the
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chase here. What is this going to mean for New
Zealand farmers.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Well, it is for much of what we sell into
that market, Jamie, ten percent more on the tariffs that
are already playing so quite tougher butter for beef. It's
just slightly more than ten percent will be the tariff rate.
Tariffs are not good for New Zealand, so that's concerning. However,
we are no less competitive against other exporters in that
market because everybody in the world is facing an additional
ten percent, and many countries as many as forty their
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tariff rates are much much higher than that. So what
I'm starting to hear from our exporters is they are
looking at the detail of it is although they're going
to have to find ways to meet that ten percent
extra cost, some of which will be passed on or
a lot will be passed on to US consumers, they
are seeing there could be opportunities and some products in
there to sell more ironically, and so we're going to
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continue to look at what it means to get more information.
Over the next day or so, as you know, the
US Administration starts releasing more detail of yesterday' speech and announcement.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
On the face of it, okay, we've got nine billion
dollars worth of trade from New Zealand to the US.
That equates to obviously a nine hundred million dollar tariff.
I think we can live with that, Todd, But what
about the collateral damage to some of our biggest trading partners, China,
the EU.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah, yeah, that's right. It's going to be quite tough
for them. I'll cover that in a moment. Just on
that nine hundred billion dollars. Yes, that's just an up
and down figure of ten percent of nine billion dollars
worth of exports. But I think a lot of that
is going to be taken up by the US consumers.
Think about the beef we sell in that it's a
very important beef market for US. Two things happen. We
sell very high end beef into restaurants and a lot
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more as ground that goes into the hamburgers. You know,
if you go to a restaurant in New York and
you get one hundred dollars steak meal and it's New
Zealand beef in that restaurant, you know, the beef might
be fifty dollars. Ten percent of that your meal is
going to be one hundred and five dollars. That is
going to get passed on. So it's going to be inflationary.
And I would be worried if others had a lower
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tariff rate than us, but they don't. It's the same.
And by the way, Australia is not selling any beef
at the moment because you've put a restriction on that,
and so you know there is going to be opportunities
there for us in those markets, but it's going to
be a bit harder work and challenging. Jamie, you mentioned
the other places, the EU and China. I expect we're
going to see tariff escalation and retaliation from there. That
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is concerning for us. We won't get caught in that,
but it's going to have an impact upon their markets.
You know, will there be a slowdown in their economies,
you know, will there be uncertainty consumers may step back
a little bit. But incidentally, with beef again, China has
already had tariff put in place against America. They're not
importing American beef at the moment, I'm told and anecdotally
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some of our beef exports to China are telling me
they're getting calls from their customers wanting more beef at
the moment because Chinese consumers still want the steak in
the restaurant on the supermarket shell, so they're going to
look elsewhere in the world. If there is a big
fight brewing with the US and US not selling products anywhere.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Have you had any luck getting to the bottom of
the supposed twenty percent tariff we impose on the US,
Todd McLay.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
It's wrong. We don't, so that is a mistake. Although
I see overnight. I woke up this morning with reports
coming to me out of Washington from our embassy that
the US is clarified. What they've done is that that's
a trade deficit. What they've done is they've said, we
buy from you twenty percent more than we sell you. Therefore,
we've decided that's a tariff, which is not. The New
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Zealand tariff rate on average for US products and to
New Zealand is one point nine percent. Other direction, the
average for US and to the US is about two point
two percent. Now, arguably, I suppose Jamie is if the
President had put that up, you know that the New
Zealand tariff rates are lower than the US tariff. Than
the US tariff rates, we're going to you a ten percent.
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It didn't look good. They're talking about a trade deficit,
and that will change because we're going to be buying
things from them soon. You know, the New Zealand needs
more airplanes in New Zealand world that goes around there
are much of the time we buy more than we
sell at the moment the other way around. My officials
over the night have reached out and had been in
contact with the USTR, the Trade office there, to say
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it's wrong, and I will be writing to my account
about Ambassador Degree respectfully to saying actually, this is what
the tariff rates are. It's not twenty percent.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
You're all mate. Winston Peter's final question here on yesterday's
show said it was a victorious stay in New Zealand
with there just as well as any country on Earth.
But let's face Todd McLay, anything that doesn't free up
trade or makes trade more difficult or more regulated, is
not good for a free trading nation.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Yeah, that's right. Well, Winston's correct though, because we are
the same as we're better than most countries in the world,
and so actually, you know, our exporters are in a
better position. But he agrees, and I've talked to you know,
he and I'd be talking about this a lot over
the previous week. Anywhere tariffs are put in place doesn't
work for New Zealand and it's not good for us. However,
one last thing I wanted to say, Jamie, to give
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you an example, Tariff rates and themselves are not bad
unless they're only against you. So if you take the
Indian market as an example, New Zealand wine export has
face one hundred and fifty percent tariff rate. Australia through
their agreement, has a seventy five percent teriff rate. Now
seventy five percent is still far too high for freedom
of trade, but they're selling a lot more Australian wine
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up there than New Zealand wine because it's seventy five
percent cheaper than oursers And so in itself that we
are at ten percent across the board and others are
the same or higher. Our exporters in the US market
are no less competitive in fact against the Europeans, you know,
we are ten percent more competitive and others a lot
more than that. And so I back, you know, kwe
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exporters who are nimble and good at what they do
to continue to do well in the US market as
they also look around the world for more opportunities, and
they'll keep selling high quality, safe food that he's in
the farmer's produced, and they'll keep getting a good return
for it.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Every cloud has a silver lining. Todd McLay, Minister of Trade.
Good luck. You're going to earn your keep over the
next few months.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
We're going to keep working away at it.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Thank you, Chad. It is fifteen after travel. Excuse me,
got something stuck in the throat. Need a glass of
water very shortly. Emma Paul and Tim Danjin brother and sister,
former Young Farmers of the Year. More importantly today they're
both farming in the Upper North Island. How's the atmospheric
river going for them as a drought breaker. Someone has
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just texted and dare Jamie. That's nice. Dear Jamie, that's
so much better than Bill the other day, who called
me to see you next Thursday, even though I think
the correct terminologies see you next Tuesday. But we're only
splitting here, is there. Bill. I've got something for you
a wee bit later in the hour. Bill, so you
just listen out for that. But dear Jamie, I hope
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you don't. I don't have anyone talking about the rain today,
Well I do. I've got Chris Brandolina. They've been talking
it up all week and we've only received seven mills
in the Northern King country South Waikato and we are
beyond desperate here. Okay, look, I get your frustration. The
weather forecasters aren't always right. We'll see what's happening in
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the Waycatto region with Mr Paul west Auckland with Tim
Dangein and Chris Brandolino A wee bit later in the
house so Maori feedback, Oh Jamie, does Todd not realize
we only sell a very tiny amount of state cuts
to the US. It's all grinding meat. You're dead right there, Tech.
I don't think they're interested in our steaks. They like
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the grain fed stuff, the more marbled stuff, and it
is nearly all grinding meat going in there. I think
he was just using the steak as an example. Okay.
Up next to the farmer panel before the end of
the hour, Chris Brandolino, Jane Smith, Barry Sober. If I
can find them, five.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
Darling, you've got to let me know.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Welcome back to the country. Twenty after twelve the Farmer panel,
The Dungeon Zone panel, Tim Paul, Tim Paul, Let's try
Tim Dungeon and Emma Paul brother and sisters consecutive young
farmers of air and twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three.
For the purposes of the conversation today, guys, we're going
to start with you, being Upper North Ireland farmers will
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start with you, Tim west Auckland. They're out at Murrowai.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
How much rain, Jamie, Good to be here.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
We've heard about seventy meals mate, so it's been perfect here,
really welcome rain. It was very dry up here leading
up to this, so we're expecting some good grass growth
off the.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Back of it.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
And yeah, much needed, mate, very good.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Is it a drought breaker?
Speaker 6 (11:18):
Yeah, I think it is.
Speaker 7 (11:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
The problem is is that it seems to be in patches.
So just talking to a few other farmers around the district,
there's some pretty varying results and how much rain every
in his head, so I think we've gotten the better
end of it. So but everyone's got something, Jamie, that's
the main thing. And as long as we get those
follow up rains then yeah, I think it will be
a drought breaker.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Although one of my text is in Northern king Country
South Wakado has only got seven mills thus far. Hopefully
that's changing. We'll head a wee bit further south to Waikato.
Emma Emma Paul. I'm getting confused with your names. Emma,
how are you getting on rainfall wise, because you've been
incredibly dry Goday Jamie.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
I hope his name's not Tim Paul. We've got bigger
problems on our hands, but no going good here in
the wake. We haven't had as much as Tim. We're
sort of only at the fifteen mill mark, but it's
very steady and very weaking rain coming down at the moment,
so we're hopeful that it's going to keep increasing. And
it was really really needed. A lot of farmers in
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the district's head their grass sowing and it was up,
but it was starting to struggle with the lack of moisture.
So this bit of follow up brain will just be
perfect for those little seedlings that are just germinating.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
When you're not a dairy farmer, you're a vet. Have
many of the farmers in the Waikato region, of course,
our biggest dairying region, had to dry off.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Yep. There's been an influx at the clinics and I
think the vets have been quite overwhelmed in the last
few weeks trying to get through our vms for farms
and prescribe their prescription dry cow and teet seal and
then actually getting teams out onto farm. A lot of
farmers sort of took a segregated approach and did the
light light cows first and sort of tried to hold on.
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But I have certainly heard of a lot of whole
herds being dried off since then, so it's just done. Yeah,
even with this rein, it's going to be a long
time to We've got feed ahead of us, so it's
probably the right call for some of those farms now. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Okay, and if you're listening in the Taranaki region, just
drop us a text on five double O nine. I
want to see how you guys are fearing because you've
had a stinker of a drought. Okay, you too. You're
very learned. You don't get to be a young Farmer
of the Year unless you're learned. Tim Dengin, what do
you make about Trump's tear us?
Speaker 6 (13:24):
Yeah, it's very interesting listening to a lot of the
commentary around it, Jamie. I'm not too worried mate, to
be fair, I think, yeah, there's still lots to be
optimistic about with it. With our beef schedule and prices
here are largely driven by procurement at the moment, so
we're still getting record prices up our way, And I
was just looking, you know, we're twenty five percent up
year on year for the beef schedule, and the lamb
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schedules at twenty percent above what it was last year,
So there's still lots to be positive about. It would
just be interesting to see where it washes out in
probably six months time. But I think I'll be keeping
a closer eye on what he does with Canada and
Mexico read because they're too big exporters into the US
of beef. So if he puts higher tariffs on them
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than what he's put on us at our ten percent level,
then there might be some opportunities and advantages there. But
for the meantime, I'm not too worried.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, it makes us more competitive, Emma, what about our
biggest trading partner, China, They've got thirty four plus the tariff.
It's all very confusing, you're never sure which numbers he's using,
but he's slapped a good strong tariff on China. Ditto
for the EU, they're at twenty percent, both major markets
for US. There is going to be collateral damage with
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some of our bigger trading partners.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Certainly Jamie and I guess this well Tensery optimistic and
I am too. At the part that worries MEW. I
guess is the uncertainty that it creates for farmers and
small business owners and just weir to place your money
in the future and what horse you're going to betting on,
I guess with things up in the air and changing
like that. So yeah, we're certainly going to create a
lot of uncertainty here, even though we've you know, we're
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I've been slept with the last rate, which is awesome,
but yet it's going to mix things up a bit,
isn't it right?
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Okay, let's just finish on the final regional final of
the FMG Young Farmer of the Air contest at so
Targo's Southland happening in Winton, central Southland, great Farming area
of that on Saturday. There's a young Southland lady by
the name of Meghan White, just twenty four years of age.
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She's up against quite a few blugs. She Emma is
the last chance to get a female through to the
grand final years.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
And hoping she goes well. We had no females in
the final last year in the way Kidow Grand Final
that we had here, so it would be good to
see Megan make it through there and may she go
well out there against the blokes. But I'm sure there'll
be more females to come in the following years too, Jamie.
Even if Meghan doesn't make it this weekend.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Tim, there are three second time Grand finalists. Hugh Jackson
who actually finished third when you won, Emma, George Leatham
he came runner up to George Dodson in the Grand
Final last year, and Gareth mckircher. George is from Tasman,
Gareth's from Arangi. Hugh Jackson, by the way Wakato Bay
a plenty, but he did represent Otago in Southland two
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years ago. And Gareth's heading to the Grand Final for
the second time he finished third last year. Those guys
would be the ones to watch out for, Tim.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Yeah, I think so, Janie. It's funny how the contest
goes in cycles like this, where there's sometimes some leaner
years and then and then you get an influx like
this where there's you know, the competition sort of builds
up and gets really dense and even more competitive than
other years, I'd say, so it should make for a
good speek to kill in As long as we find
the best farmer in New Zealand, they'll be happy. And yeah,
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I'd like to give a little shout out to Tom
Slee who's competing this weekend down in southam Tigo there.
I'm sure he'll go pretty well and everyone we've put
in the best foot forward. But yeah, really looking forward
to the Grand Final and nimber Cargo two. Jamia was
the first Grand Final I went to about seven years ago.
Now I remember the weather was bloody horrible. There was
southerly coming in and it was sleeping, but yeah, the
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Southland community still turned out and drove and we had
a great time and it was an awesome speed to kill. Mates,
are really looking forward to it this year.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
What doesn't curllier makes you strong? To ask any Southland
And Tom Slee has got very good breeding. His old
man's a former Young Farmer of the Year and his
grandfather is an absolute champion of a bloke. No the family, Well,
all right, got to go team, thanks for your time here, Jamie.
Speaker 7 (17:29):
Here we go.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
The Farmer Panel cuts them off a wee bit there
it is twenty seven after twelve. You're with the country
Clash Friday. Here's some rainfall numbers, thanks for texting in
from the Taranaki. Thirty mills plus in South Taranaki. That'll
be so welcome. Twenty five mills in New Plymouth but
down the road a wee but in Martin just nine
point six mills. I've rained so far. Hopefully the atmospheric
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river comes to a place near you. Up next Jane
Smith and North Otago.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
There were well other.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
A lol lo.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
She is a north Otago farmer and a woman of
many talents. Yesterday she was seaman testing balls. Today she's
going to talk to us about Donald Trump's tariffs from
a farmer's point of view from the coal face. Jane Smith,
Good afternoon, Good.
Speaker 8 (18:30):
Afternoon, Jamie. Hopefully not going to sort of draw a
light your line between the two being similar or something.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
I'm not sure, but now.
Speaker 8 (18:36):
It's been a fascinating twenty four hours, hasn't it really?
In terms of trade? And as you know, Jamie, there's
no winners in a trade war. And I guess the
question is one who will pay for this in terms
of the direct costs? Into the USA and whether we
pay a price in terms of the demand. But either
way it's going to be what is going to be
probably nine hundred million dollars. So I think, you know,
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from New Zealand' point of view and ed key to
calm hit on this, it looks like we have the
being upside.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
You know.
Speaker 8 (19:01):
I think it means that we will become hopefully more
crystal clear about what we produce and how we do it,
and hopefully leads to a few conversations about, you know,
some of the unnecessary burdens that we put on our
producers on that produce red meat and milk before it
even leaves our shores, so higher and higher cost of production,
you know, wasting money on overly intrusive audits, et cetera.
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It might mean we have a conversation now about ge
do we or do we not? Because it's sort of
sort of slipped through the cracks that sort of seems
a given that we're going to be doing it, but
actually is that a way to DIFFERENTI our product even
more to continue to be gu free. And I guess
we know that they need our lean hamburger meat. And
once the Yanks start paying more for their what is it,
fifty billion burgers they eat a year. That's something like
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three per person per week, Jmie. So you know that
may things might change once they become you know, realized
the rubber hits the road. And it's been really interesting
to see some speculation coming out of Australia this morning
that the Aussies are about to make a move on
the trade chess board by opening its doors to US beef.
So reciprocal importation tup scenario was beef that hasn't happened
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since I guess the DC and when was at two
thousand and three, So that is that is quite interesting
in terms of that and I'm not suggesting we should
be doing that at all, but I'm suggesting that one
that is quite strange. But also it might mean some
other doors open up for us. But never has there
been a time that we should be you know, we
should be more bolder and rather than the semi sort
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of passive approach that we're known for sometimes, you know,
I know, my Indian colleague on their global farm around
table often says, you know, you've got all the opportunity
in the world, all of the resources, but you are
a very weak seller in the world New Zealand. We
tend to go to the world with cap and hand
saying please serve, will you buy some more, when actually
we should be more focused like ZF Free Days and say,
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actually we've got a damn fine product. We'll pay a
damn fine price for it.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Let's talk.
Speaker 8 (20:59):
So yeah, I just think it's it might just open
up a bit of clarity instead of actually, I guess
punishing ourselves within before the meat even leaves the country. Actually,
lets just be really clear on what we're doing and
what actually does make our product different, Jamie.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Earlier in the week we spoke to David Seymour about
pulling out of the power of Succord. And I know
you're a bit of a poster girl for Groundswell, Jane Smith,
so you're all for it.
Speaker 8 (21:25):
Yeah, Well again, Jamie, that whole methane conversation has never
really happened. I mean the end of the day, and
you know this, and we all know this. Unfortunately, our
industry has painted ourselves into some sort of sacrificial corner
and we all know that methane, if it is steady
or decreasing, it is not adding to warming. So that
fact seems to have been markedly missed out.
Speaker 7 (21:47):
And what have we done.
Speaker 8 (21:47):
We've actually doubled down and put more money wasted. More's text,
pay money. I think there's another four hundred million dollars
in the pipeline to be used on methane mitigation, which
just seems fascical. We need think that could have gone
into real research, Jamie and I guess on that. In
terms of real research, I had a fascinating evening that
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we went to a couple of weeks ago was balance
Agra nutrients. And you know, in terms of real research
on a real problem, Warwick Cato and as Egg research
team has developed an amazing product that is going to
be potentially significantly reduced pasta larvae on pasta. So our
three lave as you know, as ninety percent of the problem,
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what do we do We only dose the ten percent
of the problem and the animal and waste. I think
it's three hundred million dollars doing that. So you know,
that's real research or the real research and healthcare, et cetera.
Speaker 7 (22:39):
But we again, we tend to sort of.
Speaker 8 (22:42):
Take the passive approach of we must do more to
be global heroes. Well, actually, let's just be really productive,
really efficient, and do really really good environmental things, Jamie.
Not this this sort of the chasing rainbows, et cetera,
which is all that we're doing by pandering to the
paris called Jamie.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Just finally, how are things on the North Otago farm.
Speaker 8 (23:01):
Well, I'm standing out in the paddock at the moment, Jamie.
And usually autumn is the time that really nails us.
Usually we don't have an autumn. We don't have an
opportunity for a autumn flush or anything like that. And
I'm a little bit sheepish if you like to say
that we've had I think we've had one hundred and
ninety MILS for the year, which is unbelievable. And again
I feel guilty saying that for all of those dry areas,
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and we have got with having an autumn, and we've
got twenty four degrees here today, and yeah, so I guess,
you know, it is nice for most of the East
Coast actually have a bit of a good autumn for once, Jamie.
We will take it. But again I just sort of
feel a bit guilty about it. But yeah, onwards and upwards,
I guess for a good autumn going into winter, Jamie.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Jane Smith, thanks for your time. I'm always appreciated on
the country. Thanks Jameey, Thank you, Jane. Twenty five away
from one. You're with the country. Some of your feedback
only half a millon Hawk's Bay, mind you. Thanks Michelle.
You're not as dry and hawkspy as they are on
the other side of the island. Stratford seventeen mills, West Coast.
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Drought's over there one hundred and seventy eight miles in
the last twenty four hours. Thanks for that. The text
numbers five double oh nine. Now here's an opportunity for you.
I'd invite you. Miche Albert. You've got to stay here
and work. Next week's the South Island Dairy event and
Timaru the side dinner. It's a casual affair. You get
dressed up in your best country or cowboy clothes at
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the spates Ale House and Timaro. We've got a couple
of spare seats on our table. We'll feed and water.
We might even shout you a couple of bears. They'll
have some Emersons on tap at the spates Ale House.
Give us a text on five double o nine. If
you're going along to side and you haven't got a ticket,
or if you're anywhere in that neck of the woods
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and you're keen to come along and meet some really
interesting guests on our table. Five double oh nine is
the number. Give us your name, where you're from, and
if we like the cut of your cloth, to wee
bit about you south and we'll pick out the most
well mannered participant. No, not really, we just want to
give away a couple of tickets five nine for that one.
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Here's another text in dark Horse, Tom Slee talking about
the the FMG Young Farmer the final regional final on
an Inbicago on Saturday. He's the son of Richard and
of course Richard Slee. What year was Richard Young Farmer
of the Year. Just before the millennium nineteen ninety nine
Richard Slee was the Young Farmer of the Year. His
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old man Sid, who I know well, is an absolute
legend of a man. And along with the late Owen
Buckingham on the ninth of June nineteen seventy eight, they
were behind the Southland Farmer Protest, where a group of
Southland farmers shocked the nation when they slaughtered fifteen hundred
sheep basically in the main street where they drove them
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just off the main street of Inmbicago, or farmer protest
around the freezing works strike. No one who was there
at the time will ever forget it. Okay, we'll take
a break, get rid of that and come back with
the latest and rural news and sports news. That's bang
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on twenty away from one year with the country. Remember
five dob o nine. If you want to come to
the side dinner, tell us why we should invite you.
Here's Michelle with the latest and rural.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
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Speaker 2 (27:08):
Thank you, Michelle. I'm just trying to decipher someone's done
a very quick sports headline talking about I'll play the
Stinger first and then I'll tell you about my problem sport.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
We're the Avco Kiwi to the bone since nineteen oh four.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Why would you write a story saying kee we Golfer
Ryan Fox has carded four over par a, four over
par seventy six to leave his weekend accommodation booking in peril. Fox,
it's thirteen strokes off the lead in a share of
one hundred and thirty. First here he's not going very well.
But where's he playing? The tennis tournament? NZ Resports department,
the tennis tournament, the golf department. See, that's what's the trouble.
(27:44):
Was so inaccurate. It is the Valero Texas Open. So yes,
he'll be very lucky to make the cut. Indeed, the
Crusaders have loaned several body temperature calling mechanisms or have
been loaned several temperature calling mechanisms from the Blacksticks, such
(28:04):
as ice ves u U bottle seats, put me off
Now slushy machines for their Super Rugby trip to Suva.
The Crusoders. By the way, I heard someone say this
morning that they've never won in Fiji.
Speaker 9 (28:15):
Wow, I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
That's not an easy place.
Speaker 8 (28:18):
To go to.
Speaker 9 (28:18):
No, it'd be a hard place to play. I mean
that humidity would really get to you.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
I think.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah. So there's your sports news up next, Chris Brandolino
and the Atmospheric River. I actually know before I do,
just let me chuck this and I better get this
one off my chest. Where is it here?
Speaker 7 (28:36):
Right?
Speaker 2 (28:36):
This is Bell, and don't shake your head. When someone
calls you a see you next Thursday, you have to respond. So,
but this is what Bell took umbrage to. This is
luxon on Wednesday's show.
Speaker 8 (28:48):
Then you've got the red meat go thing, it's extra
one point two.
Speaker 10 (28:51):
But then on the table you've got water price that
piren't have been for eighty years unless it's recovering sharing prices.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
And then you've got a good outlook and dairy.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
So it really is once again, as I've always said,
primary industry's most important industry, and he's on part of
the economy leading us out of recession.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
I agree with everything you say. You might want to
do your homework on the wall. It's not quite as
that flash.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
That's a cut from Wednesday's show. And look I was right.
I mean he was saying it's better than it has
been for several years, even covering the cost of sharing.
That's not the point, Prime Minister. It's a dog. It's
a dog at the moment, and I wish I could
be the bearer of better news, but it's dragging the
primary sector down. Yesterday's North Island sale wall twenty five
(29:32):
percent passed in strong Wall Indicator down twenty cents. The
commentary from Steve Fussell, who is the North Island procurement
and sales manager for PGG Rights and Wall, said a
real correction in the market was the final analysis from
today's North Island wallsale. The general mood in the auction
room seemed flat and there was a real pushback and
(29:53):
demand for the poorer wall types. You can't polish a turd,
and I know some people will be offended by that
as well, Bill, but let's face it, Bill, I was
right on this occasion. I might have been wrong about
the atmospheric river on Wednesday, but I was right about
the Wall market, and it's right not to correct the
Prime Minister, but just make them aware that everything's not
(30:15):
fine and dandy in the Wall department. Up next, talking
about the atmospheric River. Chris Brandolino from Niwa. Welcome back
to the country. Enjoying the clash today. Good choice, Michelle,
(30:36):
lots of feedback coming in on the rain. Eleven mills
in Hawarah. That won't be enough. It's very, very dry
in the Taranaki region. We've found our guest. Have you
texted in, Michelle? Yeah, yeah, okay, so this is cool.
Hi Jamie, I'd love to join you at the side
dinner and show you some South Canterbury hospitality regards. Gareth mkirchheer.
(31:00):
That's got to be the same Gareth mcirche who's the
Arange representative in the Young Farmer of the Year Grand Final. Gareth,
you are most welcome to join us. We'll be in
touch after the show. If there's a missus mccirtchheer or
a partner, we're not judgmental. Or if it's just you, Gareth,
spring along a mite. You've got two spices. Chris Brandolina.
(31:22):
The atmospheric River's not hitting everywhere. Where have you go?
I'm here, yeah, okay here, well you go.
Speaker 10 (31:30):
Okay, No, it's you're right. I mean some places had
a really good dropper rain. Obviously the top of the
South Island they made out with the most rainfall, and
they had some really dry conditions there. So the top
totals I could find, and I do want to give
credit this is by way of the has been District Council.
The gauges. So places in Takaka and the hills just
(31:52):
about five hundred millimeters of rain for the events or
half meter. But the many areas one, two, three, four, five,
about four or five locations that I could come across
had anywhere between four and five hundred millimeters of rain.
So that's where the heaviest rain fell. You know, that
was basically aver well advertised and expected. My place, I
(32:12):
had my own little personal weather station Jammie that my
son got me for Christmas, and I recorded it. In
Helensville nearly seventy well seventy four millimeters of rain for
the week, So were good drop of rain at the airport.
How about this stat for you. It's a city slicker stat,
but I think the fine audience members of the country
can identify so at our Auckland location or Auckland Climate
(32:38):
Stations in Western Springs. At that location, I think we
had more rain in the past let's say, forty eight
to thirty six hours than we had in the entire
month of March. In fact, in fact here it is
fifty two point two millimeters occurred over the past two
days at our Western Springs in Auckland Climate station in
(33:00):
March just twelve point four wow, four times.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
What was Chris pay to me from all the ticks
coming in about the weather that like South Waikato, Kin Country,
spots of South Taranaki down into the Massin area, they're
not quite getting the full benefits of the atmospheric river.
Speaker 10 (33:20):
That's correct, That's completely true. Are we do have another
opportunity for rain. Look, it's not going to be as
widespread or as impressive as this past event that's exiting
stage right, but it will bring that. Unfortunately, I think
once again, areas in South Tetanaki, South Wlakoto King Country,
and I'm talking about Sunday and especially Sunday night and
(33:42):
Monday probably gonna be I don't want to say left
high and drive, but they're gonna get more in North
Tetaneki and central and North Wacotto. I think we'll get
some there. So that's some good news. And another round
of rain coming say Tuesday morning, Tuesday afternoon. So between
now and say Tuesday afternoon, there will be other opportunities
for rain. You're going to get a bit colder for
a few days. Temperatures warm up pretty significantly though as
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we approach probably this time next week, in the following weekend,
a big old fat high Jamie that comes in and
looks like this time next week with several days of
dry weather hopefully up to the north that sposh comes in.
We get some rain coming from the north as we
work away into school holidays, we'll see.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Okay, Chris Brandolina there from me, we've got to take
a break back with Barry Soaper. Some morir rainfall numbers
north than sixty six meals you'll take that. But in
Tiawamotu only thirteen mills. Andrew says that's a trickle, not
a river. Good commentary, Okay, wrapping the country with Barry Soper.
(34:47):
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Armstrong dot co dot Nz. Barry Soper to wrap the country.
Barry Winston blows out eighty candles this time next week,
(35:32):
next Friday. He's getting better with age.
Speaker 7 (35:35):
He's like a good wine as Winston, and he's down
a bit of that in his time, I might say.
But look, yeah, he's in his element. Foreign the foreign
Minister's job suits him to a tea. He's smart, he
looks the part, he dresses well, and he can talk
the talk. And who knows, he did it with Marco
(35:57):
Rubio last week. But we all sorry recently, but we
don't know whether that meant that the tariffs were as
low as what they were, but nevertheless he's claiming victory
for it and got on him.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
He's given a bit of a toweling to the Greens
and to Party Mari this week in parliament.
Speaker 7 (36:16):
Well you know you were talking about resetting your mentality.
I mean I've had to this week when you had
Donald Trump and I've got the Greens and the Malori
Party here in Wellington. I mean, absolutely absurd. This Benjamin
Doyle stuff, I think to try and defend this man
against what clearly is objectionum on the material that he
(36:41):
posted online is reprehensible and Chloe Swarbrick should realize that
we've just got over the Tamatha Paul stuff. They're Wellington
Centrally MP saying the police should be abolished, and then
on behold we have the Mole Party saying that the
(37:02):
Privileges Committee is silly and trivial and they want nothing
to do with it. Well, I'm sorry. They joined parliament,
they stood for election. They're written the place unfortunately, and
I've got to abide by the rules. They'd say, the
party our rules. The parliament is a Parkier parliament. They
are being overridden. But look Honestly, Jamie, there's no explaining
(37:24):
to these people. No.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
I feel sorry for Chrisipkins actually having to potentially govern
with them. I've got thirty seconds Seymour's treaty principal Bill
overwhelming opposition. Surely he's got to forget about it.
Speaker 7 (37:36):
Well, you know the thing is, no, I think he's
done exactly what he wanted to do. He's got it
out there being debated. It's like the end of life
choice bill. He got that out there that was controversial.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
That I'm swear you're gone, Barry Yeah, and then it.
Speaker 7 (37:52):
Came into legislation. This who knows further down the track
may do the same.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Okay, Hey, thank you very much for your time. Bars
always appreciate it. Soaper wrapping the show for this week.
Thanks for listening. Even you Bill, just agree to disagree.
Don't call me a see you next Thursday. I'll see
the rest of you guys next Monday.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
Good afternoon and get a New Zealand. I'm Jamie McKay.
This is the Country, brought to you by Brandt. Michelle's
chucked in a bit of a clash today just because
we can, well clash does that describe Donald Trump's new
tariff policy. We've had a day to kind of digest it.
So the Minister of Agriculture and Trade, Todd McClay, who's
(00:51):
been all over the media, but we're going to get
his take, especially what these Trump tariffs mean for New
Zealand farmers. Todd McClay. To kick off the Country today,
We've got an atmospheric river. I think it's still an
atmospheric river over the country. Is it going to be
a drought breaker? We've got an Upper North Island brother
and Sister farming panel, Emma Paul and Tim Dangin, both
(01:14):
incidentally former Young Farmers of the Year. We'll see how
they're faring in West Auckland in the Waikato region. North
Otago's having a ripper of the season. Jane Smith's there
will get her take on the Trump tariffs from the
Coal Face, Chris Brandellino from NIWA. They've just come out
with their monthly climate summary and no surprise, it was
(01:36):
drier and warmer than normal in a lot of places.
And Barry Sober if I can track them down, we'll see.
David Seymour's Treaty Principles Bill hasn't gone down that well.
But what about Winston's war on Woke the Greens and
Tapati Mari. We've got all that to do before the
end of the hour. Plus we're going to give you
a chance to join us Tuesday evening in Timaru at
(01:57):
the spates Ale House for the Side South Island Airy
Event dinner up next to Todd McLay. Todd McLay is the
Minister of Agriculture and Trade. He's had one day to
unpack and digest Liberation Day. Todd, let's cut to the
(02:20):
chase here. What is this going to mean for New
Zealand farmers.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Well, it is for much of what we sell into
that market, Jamie, ten percent more on the tariffs that
are already playing so quite tougher butter for beef. It's
just slightly more than ten percent will be the tariff rate.
Tariffs are not good for New Zealand, so that's concerning. However,
we are no less competitive against other exporters in that
market because everybody in the world is facing an additional
ten percent, and many countries as many as forty their
(02:47):
tariff rates are much much higher than that. So what
I'm starting to hear from our exporters is they are
looking at the detail of it is although they're going
to have to find ways to meet that ten percent
extra cost, some of which will be passed on or
a lot will be passed on to US consumers, they
are seeing there could be opportunities and some products in
there to sell more ironically, and so we're going to
(03:09):
continue to look at what it means to get more information.
Over the next day or so, as you know, the
US Administration starts releasing more detail of yesterday' speech and announcement.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
On the face of it, okay, we've got nine billion
dollars worth of trade from New Zealand to the US.
That equates to obviously a nine hundred million dollar tariff.
I think we can live with that, Todd, But what
about the collateral damage to some of our biggest trading partners, China,
the EU.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah, yeah, that's right. It's going to be quite tough
for them. I'll cover that in a moment. Just on
that nine hundred billion dollars. Yes, that's just an up
and down figure of ten percent of nine billion dollars
worth of exports. But I think a lot of that
is going to be taken up by the US consumers.
Think about the beef we sell in that it's a
very important beef market for US. Two things happen. We
sell very high end beef into restaurants and a lot
(04:01):
more as ground that goes into the hamburgers. You know,
if you go to a restaurant in New York and
you get one hundred dollars steak meal and it's New
Zealand beef in that restaurant, you know, the beef might
be fifty dollars. Ten percent of that your meal is
going to be one hundred and five dollars. That is
going to get passed on. So it's going to be inflationary.
And I would be worried if others had a lower
(04:22):
tariff rate than us, but they don't. It's the same.
And by the way, Australia is not selling any beef
at the moment because you've put a restriction on that,
and so you know there is going to be opportunities
there for us in those markets, but it's going to
be a bit harder work and challenging. Jamie, you mentioned
the other places, the EU and China. I expect we're
going to see tariff escalation and retaliation from there. That
(04:44):
is concerning for us. We won't get caught in that,
but it's going to have an impact upon their markets.
You know, will there be a slowdown in their economies,
you know, will there be uncertainty consumers may step back
a little bit. But incidentally, with beef again, China has
already had tariff put in place against America. They're not
importing American beef at the moment, I'm told and anecdotally
(05:06):
some of our beef exports to China are telling me
they're getting calls from their customers wanting more beef at
the moment because Chinese consumers still want the steak in
the restaurant on the supermarket shell, so they're going to
look elsewhere in the world. If there is a big
fight brewing with the US and US not selling products anywhere.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Have you had any luck getting to the bottom of
the supposed twenty percent tariff we impose on the US,
Todd McLay.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
It's wrong. We don't, so that is a mistake. Although
I see overnight. I woke up this morning with reports
coming to me out of Washington from our embassy that
the US is clarified. What they've done is that that's
a trade deficit. What they've done is they've said, we
buy from you twenty percent more than we sell you. Therefore,
we've decided that's a tariff, which is not. The New
(05:55):
Zealand tariff rate on average for US products and to
New Zealand is one point nine percent. Other direction, the
average for US and to the US is about two point
two percent. Now, arguably, I suppose Jamie is if the
President had put that up, you know that the New
Zealand tariff rates are lower than the US tariff. Than
the US tariff rates, we're going to you a ten percent.
(06:16):
It didn't look good. They're talking about a trade deficit,
and that will change because we're going to be buying
things from them soon. You know, the New Zealand needs
more airplanes in New Zealand world that goes around there
are much of the time we buy more than we
sell at the moment the other way around. My officials
over the night have reached out and had been in
contact with the USTR, the Trade office there, to say
(06:39):
it's wrong, and I will be writing to my account
about Ambassador Degree respectfully to saying actually, this is what
the tariff rates are. It's not twenty percent.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
You're all mate. Winston Peter's final question here on yesterday's
show said it was a victorious stay in New Zealand
with there just as well as any country on Earth.
But let's face Todd McLay, anything that doesn't free up
trade or makes trade more difficult or more regulated, is
not good for a free trading nation.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Yeah, that's right. Well, Winston's correct though, because we are
the same as we're better than most countries in the world,
and so actually, you know, our exporters are in a
better position. But he agrees, and I've talked to you know,
he and I'd be talking about this a lot over
the previous week. Anywhere tariffs are put in place doesn't
work for New Zealand and it's not good for us. However,
one last thing I wanted to say, Jamie, to give
(07:27):
you an example, Tariff rates and themselves are not bad
unless they're only against you. So if you take the
Indian market as an example, New Zealand wine export has
face one hundred and fifty percent tariff rate. Australia through
their agreement, has a seventy five percent teriff rate. Now
seventy five percent is still far too high for freedom
of trade, but they're selling a lot more Australian wine
(07:50):
up there than New Zealand wine because it's seventy five
percent cheaper than oursers And so in itself that we
are at ten percent across the board and others are
the same or higher. Our exporters in the US market
are no less competitive in fact against the Europeans, you know,
we are ten percent more competitive and others a lot
more than that. And so I back, you know, kwe
(08:11):
exporters who are nimble and good at what they do
to continue to do well in the US market as
they also look around the world for more opportunities, and
they'll keep selling high quality, safe food that he's in
the farmer's produced, and they'll keep getting a good return
for it.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Every cloud has a silver lining. Todd McLay, Minister of Trade.
Good luck. You're going to earn your keep over the
next few months.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
We're going to keep working away at it.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Thank you, Chad. It is fifteen after travel. Excuse me,
got something stuck in the throat. Need a glass of
water very shortly. Emma Paul and Tim Danjin brother and sister,
former Young Farmers of the Year. More importantly today they're
both farming in the Upper North Island. How's the atmospheric
river going for them as a drought breaker. Someone has
(08:58):
just texted and dare Jamie. That's nice. Dear Jamie, that's
so much better than Bill the other day, who called
me to see you next Thursday, even though I think
the correct terminologies see you next Tuesday. But we're only
splitting here, is there. Bill. I've got something for you
a wee bit later in the hour. Bill, so you
just listen out for that. But dear Jamie, I hope
(09:18):
you don't. I don't have anyone talking about the rain today,
Well I do. I've got Chris Brandolina. They've been talking
it up all week and we've only received seven mills
in the Northern King country South Waikato and we are
beyond desperate here. Okay, look, I get your frustration. The
weather forecasters aren't always right. We'll see what's happening in
(09:40):
the Waycatto region with Mr Paul west Auckland with Tim
Dangein and Chris Brandolino A wee bit later in the
house so Maori feedback, Oh Jamie, does Todd not realize
we only sell a very tiny amount of state cuts
to the US. It's all grinding meat. You're dead right there, Tech.
I don't think they're interested in our steaks. They like
(10:03):
the grain fed stuff, the more marbled stuff, and it
is nearly all grinding meat going in there. I think
he was just using the steak as an example. Okay.
Up next to the farmer panel before the end of
the hour, Chris Brandolino, Jane Smith, Barry Sober. If I
can find them, five.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
Darling, you've got to let me know.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Welcome back to the country. Twenty after twelve the Farmer panel,
The Dungeon Zone panel, Tim Paul, Tim Paul, Let's try
Tim Dungeon and Emma Paul brother and sisters consecutive young
farmers of air and twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three.
For the purposes of the conversation today, guys, we're going
to start with you, being Upper North Ireland farmers will
(10:56):
start with you, Tim west Auckland. They're out at Murrowai.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
How much rain, Jamie, Good to be here.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
We've heard about seventy meals mate, so it's been perfect here,
really welcome rain. It was very dry up here leading
up to this, so we're expecting some good grass growth
off the.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Back of it.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
And yeah, much needed, mate, very good.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Is it a drought breaker?
Speaker 6 (11:18):
Yeah, I think it is.
Speaker 7 (11:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
The problem is is that it seems to be in patches.
So just talking to a few other farmers around the district,
there's some pretty varying results and how much rain every
in his head, so I think we've gotten the better
end of it. So but everyone's got something, Jamie, that's
the main thing. And as long as we get those
follow up rains then yeah, I think it will be
a drought breaker.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Although one of my text is in Northern king Country
South Wakado has only got seven mills thus far. Hopefully
that's changing. We'll head a wee bit further south to Waikato.
Emma Emma Paul. I'm getting confused with your names. Emma,
how are you getting on rainfall wise, because you've been
incredibly dry Goday Jamie.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
I hope his name's not Tim Paul. We've got bigger
problems on our hands, but no going good here in
the wake. We haven't had as much as Tim. We're
sort of only at the fifteen mill mark, but it's
very steady and very weaking rain coming down at the moment,
so we're hopeful that it's going to keep increasing. And
it was really really needed. A lot of farmers in
(12:15):
the district's head their grass sowing and it was up,
but it was starting to struggle with the lack of moisture.
So this bit of follow up brain will just be
perfect for those little seedlings that are just germinating.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
When you're not a dairy farmer, you're a vet. Have
many of the farmers in the Waikato region, of course,
our biggest dairying region, had to dry off.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Yep. There's been an influx at the clinics and I
think the vets have been quite overwhelmed in the last
few weeks trying to get through our vms for farms
and prescribe their prescription dry cow and teet seal and
then actually getting teams out onto farm. A lot of
farmers sort of took a segregated approach and did the
light light cows first and sort of tried to hold on.
(12:55):
But I have certainly heard of a lot of whole
herds being dried off since then, so it's just done. Yeah,
even with this rein, it's going to be a long
time to We've got feed ahead of us, so it's
probably the right call for some of those farms now. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Okay, and if you're listening in the Taranaki region, just
drop us a text on five double O nine. I
want to see how you guys are fearing because you've
had a stinker of a drought. Okay, you too. You're
very learned. You don't get to be a young Farmer
of the Year unless you're learned. Tim Dengin, what do
you make about Trump's tear us?
Speaker 6 (13:24):
Yeah, it's very interesting listening to a lot of the
commentary around it, Jamie. I'm not too worried mate, to
be fair, I think, yeah, there's still lots to be
optimistic about with it. With our beef schedule and prices
here are largely driven by procurement at the moment, so
we're still getting record prices up our way, And I
was just looking, you know, we're twenty five percent up
year on year for the beef schedule, and the lamb
(13:45):
schedules at twenty percent above what it was last year,
So there's still lots to be positive about. It would
just be interesting to see where it washes out in
probably six months time. But I think I'll be keeping
a closer eye on what he does with Canada and
Mexico read because they're too big exporters into the US
of beef. So if he puts higher tariffs on them
(14:05):
than what he's put on us at our ten percent level,
then there might be some opportunities and advantages there. But
for the meantime, I'm not too worried.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, it makes us more competitive, Emma, what about our
biggest trading partner, China, They've got thirty four plus the tariff.
It's all very confusing, you're never sure which numbers he's using,
but he's slapped a good strong tariff on China. Ditto
for the EU, they're at twenty percent, both major markets
for US. There is going to be collateral damage with
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some of our bigger trading partners.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Certainly Jamie and I guess this well Tensery optimistic and
I am too. At the part that worries MEW. I
guess is the uncertainty that it creates for farmers and
small business owners and just weir to place your money
in the future and what horse you're going to betting on,
I guess with things up in the air and changing
like that. So yeah, we're certainly going to create a
lot of uncertainty here, even though we've you know, we're
(15:00):
I've been slept with the last rate, which is awesome,
but yet it's going to mix things up a bit,
isn't it right?
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Okay, let's just finish on the final regional final of
the FMG Young Farmer of the Air contest at so
Targo's Southland happening in Winton, central Southland, great Farming area
of that on Saturday. There's a young Southland lady by
the name of Meghan White, just twenty four years of age.
(15:26):
She's up against quite a few blugs. She Emma is
the last chance to get a female through to the
grand final years.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
And hoping she goes well. We had no females in
the final last year in the way Kidow Grand Final
that we had here, so it would be good to
see Megan make it through there and may she go
well out there against the blokes. But I'm sure there'll
be more females to come in the following years too, Jamie.
Even if Meghan doesn't make it this weekend.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Tim, there are three second time Grand finalists. Hugh Jackson
who actually finished third when you won, Emma, George Leatham
he came runner up to George Dodson in the Grand
Final last year, and Gareth mckircher. George is from Tasman,
Gareth's from Arangi. Hugh Jackson, by the way Wakato Bay
a plenty, but he did represent Otago in Southland two
(16:13):
years ago. And Gareth's heading to the Grand Final for
the second time he finished third last year. Those guys
would be the ones to watch out for, Tim.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Yeah, I think so, Janie. It's funny how the contest
goes in cycles like this, where there's sometimes some leaner
years and then and then you get an influx like
this where there's you know, the competition sort of builds
up and gets really dense and even more competitive than
other years, I'd say, so it should make for a
good speek to kill in As long as we find
the best farmer in New Zealand, they'll be happy. And yeah,
(16:44):
I'd like to give a little shout out to Tom
Slee who's competing this weekend down in southam Tigo there.
I'm sure he'll go pretty well and everyone we've put
in the best foot forward. But yeah, really looking forward
to the Grand Final and nimber Cargo two. Jamia was
the first Grand Final I went to about seven years ago.
Now I remember the weather was bloody horrible. There was
southerly coming in and it was sleeping, but yeah, the
(17:05):
Southland community still turned out and drove and we had
a great time and it was an awesome speed to kill. Mates,
are really looking forward to it this year.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
What doesn't curllier makes you strong? To ask any Southland
And Tom Slee has got very good breeding. His old
man's a former Young Farmer of the Year and his
grandfather is an absolute champion of a bloke. No the family, Well,
all right, got to go team, thanks for your time here, Jamie.
Speaker 7 (17:29):
Here we go.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
The Farmer Panel cuts them off a wee bit there
it is twenty seven after twelve. You're with the country
Clash Friday. Here's some rainfall numbers, thanks for texting in
from the Taranaki. Thirty mills plus in South Taranaki. That'll
be so welcome. Twenty five mills in New Plymouth but
down the road a wee but in Martin just nine
point six mills. I've rained so far. Hopefully the atmospheric
(17:54):
river comes to a place near you. Up next Jane
Smith and North Otago.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
There were well other.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
A lol lo.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
She is a north Otago farmer and a woman of
many talents. Yesterday she was seaman testing balls. Today she's
going to talk to us about Donald Trump's tariffs from
a farmer's point of view from the coal face. Jane Smith,
Good afternoon, Good.
Speaker 8 (18:30):
Afternoon, Jamie. Hopefully not going to sort of draw a
light your line between the two being similar or something.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
I'm not sure, but now.
Speaker 8 (18:36):
It's been a fascinating twenty four hours, hasn't it really?
In terms of trade? And as you know, Jamie, there's
no winners in a trade war. And I guess the
question is one who will pay for this in terms
of the direct costs? Into the USA and whether we
pay a price in terms of the demand. But either
way it's going to be what is going to be
probably nine hundred million dollars. So I think, you know,
(18:56):
from New Zealand' point of view and ed key to
calm hit on this, it looks like we have the
being upside.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
You know.
Speaker 8 (19:01):
I think it means that we will become hopefully more
crystal clear about what we produce and how we do it,
and hopefully leads to a few conversations about, you know,
some of the unnecessary burdens that we put on our
producers on that produce red meat and milk before it
even leaves our shores, so higher and higher cost of production,
you know, wasting money on overly intrusive audits, et cetera.
(19:22):
It might mean we have a conversation now about ge
do we or do we not? Because it's sort of
sort of slipped through the cracks that sort of seems
a given that we're going to be doing it, but
actually is that a way to DIFFERENTI our product even
more to continue to be gu free. And I guess
we know that they need our lean hamburger meat. And
once the Yanks start paying more for their what is it,
fifty billion burgers they eat a year. That's something like
(19:45):
three per person per week, Jmie. So you know that
may things might change once they become you know, realized
the rubber hits the road. And it's been really interesting
to see some speculation coming out of Australia this morning
that the Aussies are about to make a move on
the trade chess board by opening its doors to US beef.
So reciprocal importation tup scenario was beef that hasn't happened
(20:10):
since I guess the DC and when was at two
thousand and three, So that is that is quite interesting
in terms of that and I'm not suggesting we should
be doing that at all, but I'm suggesting that one
that is quite strange. But also it might mean some
other doors open up for us. But never has there
been a time that we should be you know, we
should be more bolder and rather than the semi sort
(20:31):
of passive approach that we're known for sometimes, you know,
I know, my Indian colleague on their global farm around
table often says, you know, you've got all the opportunity
in the world, all of the resources, but you are
a very weak seller in the world New Zealand. We
tend to go to the world with cap and hand
saying please serve, will you buy some more, when actually
we should be more focused like ZF Free Days and say,
(20:54):
actually we've got a damn fine product. We'll pay a
damn fine price for it.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Let's talk.
Speaker 8 (20:59):
So yeah, I just think it's it might just open
up a bit of clarity instead of actually, I guess
punishing ourselves within before the meat even leaves the country. Actually,
lets just be really clear on what we're doing and
what actually does make our product different, Jamie.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Earlier in the week we spoke to David Seymour about
pulling out of the power of Succord. And I know
you're a bit of a poster girl for Groundswell, Jane Smith,
so you're all for it.
Speaker 8 (21:25):
Yeah, Well again, Jamie, that whole methane conversation has never
really happened. I mean the end of the day, and
you know this, and we all know this. Unfortunately, our
industry has painted ourselves into some sort of sacrificial corner
and we all know that methane, if it is steady
or decreasing, it is not adding to warming. So that
fact seems to have been markedly missed out.
Speaker 7 (21:47):
And what have we done.
Speaker 8 (21:47):
We've actually doubled down and put more money wasted. More's text,
pay money. I think there's another four hundred million dollars
in the pipeline to be used on methane mitigation, which
just seems fascical. We need think that could have gone
into real research, Jamie and I guess on that. In
terms of real research, I had a fascinating evening that
(22:08):
we went to a couple of weeks ago was balance
Agra nutrients. And you know, in terms of real research
on a real problem, Warwick Cato and as Egg research
team has developed an amazing product that is going to
be potentially significantly reduced pasta larvae on pasta. So our
three lave as you know, as ninety percent of the problem,
(22:29):
what do we do We only dose the ten percent
of the problem and the animal and waste. I think
it's three hundred million dollars doing that. So you know,
that's real research or the real research and healthcare, et cetera.
Speaker 7 (22:39):
But we again, we tend to sort of.
Speaker 8 (22:42):
Take the passive approach of we must do more to
be global heroes. Well, actually, let's just be really productive,
really efficient, and do really really good environmental things, Jamie.
Not this this sort of the chasing rainbows, et cetera,
which is all that we're doing by pandering to the
paris called Jamie.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Just finally, how are things on the North Otago farm.
Speaker 8 (23:01):
Well, I'm standing out in the paddock at the moment, Jamie.
And usually autumn is the time that really nails us.
Usually we don't have an autumn. We don't have an
opportunity for a autumn flush or anything like that. And
I'm a little bit sheepish if you like to say
that we've had I think we've had one hundred and
ninety MILS for the year, which is unbelievable. And again
I feel guilty saying that for all of those dry areas,
(23:21):
and we have got with having an autumn, and we've
got twenty four degrees here today, and yeah, so I guess,
you know, it is nice for most of the East
Coast actually have a bit of a good autumn for once, Jamie.
We will take it. But again I just sort of
feel a bit guilty about it. But yeah, onwards and upwards,
I guess for a good autumn going into winter, Jamie.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Jane Smith, thanks for your time. I'm always appreciated on
the country. Thanks Jameey, Thank you, Jane. Twenty five away
from one. You're with the country. Some of your feedback
only half a millon Hawk's Bay, mind you. Thanks Michelle.
You're not as dry and hawkspy as they are on
the other side of the island. Stratford seventeen mills, West Coast.
(24:05):
Drought's over there one hundred and seventy eight miles in
the last twenty four hours. Thanks for that. The text
numbers five double oh nine. Now here's an opportunity for you.
I'd invite you. Miche Albert. You've got to stay here
and work. Next week's the South Island Dairy event and
Timaru the side dinner. It's a casual affair. You get
dressed up in your best country or cowboy clothes at
(24:27):
the spates Ale House and Timaro. We've got a couple
of spare seats on our table. We'll feed and water.
We might even shout you a couple of bears. They'll
have some Emersons on tap at the spates Ale House.
Give us a text on five double o nine. If
you're going along to side and you haven't got a ticket,
or if you're anywhere in that neck of the woods
(24:48):
and you're keen to come along and meet some really
interesting guests on our table. Five double oh nine is
the number. Give us your name, where you're from, and
if we like the cut of your cloth, to wee
bit about you south and we'll pick out the most
well mannered participant. No, not really, we just want to
give away a couple of tickets five nine for that one.
(25:11):
Here's another text in dark Horse, Tom Slee talking about
the the FMG Young Farmer the final regional final on
an Inbicago on Saturday. He's the son of Richard and
of course Richard Slee. What year was Richard Young Farmer
of the Year. Just before the millennium nineteen ninety nine
Richard Slee was the Young Farmer of the Year. His
(25:32):
old man Sid, who I know well, is an absolute
legend of a man. And along with the late Owen
Buckingham on the ninth of June nineteen seventy eight, they
were behind the Southland Farmer Protest, where a group of
Southland farmers shocked the nation when they slaughtered fifteen hundred
sheep basically in the main street where they drove them
(25:54):
just off the main street of Inmbicago, or farmer protest
around the freezing works strike. No one who was there
at the time will ever forget it. Okay, we'll take
a break, get rid of that and come back with
the latest and rural news and sports news. That's bang
(26:20):
on twenty away from one year with the country. Remember
five dob o nine. If you want to come to
the side dinner, tell us why we should invite you.
Here's Michelle with the latest and rural.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
News, the country's rural news with Cod Cadet, New Zealand's
leading right on lawn bower bread. Visit Steelford dot co
dot nz for your local stockist.
Speaker 9 (26:41):
The Taranaki Region announced their supreme winner of the Balance
Farm Environment Awards last night. Brendan Adderal of Cassil Trust
in Herranger took out the top honors and will join
other regional winners from around the country at the national
showcase in June. There are just two more regions left,
with the Target and Southland having their announcement next week.
And that's for all news. You can find more at
(27:02):
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Speaker 2 (27:08):
Thank you, Michelle. I'm just trying to decipher someone's done
a very quick sports headline talking about I'll play the
Stinger first and then I'll tell you about my problem sport.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
We're the Avco Kiwi to the bone since nineteen oh four.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Why would you write a story saying kee we Golfer
Ryan Fox has carded four over par a, four over
par seventy six to leave his weekend accommodation booking in peril. Fox,
it's thirteen strokes off the lead in a share of
one hundred and thirty. First here he's not going very well.
But where's he playing? The tennis tournament? NZ Resports department,
the tennis tournament, the golf department. See, that's what's the trouble.
(27:44):
Was so inaccurate. It is the Valero Texas Open. So yes,
he'll be very lucky to make the cut. Indeed, the
Crusaders have loaned several body temperature calling mechanisms or have
been loaned several temperature calling mechanisms from the Blacksticks, such
(28:04):
as ice ves u U bottle seats, put me off
Now slushy machines for their Super Rugby trip to Suva.
The Crusoders. By the way, I heard someone say this
morning that they've never won in Fiji.
Speaker 9 (28:15):
Wow, I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
That's not an easy place.
Speaker 8 (28:18):
To go to.
Speaker 9 (28:18):
No, it'd be a hard place to play. I mean
that humidity would really get to you.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
I think.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah. So there's your sports news up next, Chris Brandolino
and the Atmospheric River. I actually know before I do,
just let me chuck this and I better get this
one off my chest. Where is it here?
Speaker 7 (28:36):
Right?
Speaker 2 (28:36):
This is Bell, and don't shake your head. When someone
calls you a see you next Thursday, you have to respond. So,
but this is what Bell took umbrage to. This is
luxon on Wednesday's show.
Speaker 8 (28:48):
Then you've got the red meat go thing, it's extra
one point two.
Speaker 10 (28:51):
But then on the table you've got water price that
piren't have been for eighty years unless it's recovering sharing prices.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
And then you've got a good outlook and dairy.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
So it really is once again, as I've always said,
primary industry's most important industry, and he's on part of
the economy leading us out of recession.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
I agree with everything you say. You might want to
do your homework on the wall. It's not quite as
that flash.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
That's a cut from Wednesday's show. And look I was right.
I mean he was saying it's better than it has
been for several years, even covering the cost of sharing.
That's not the point, Prime Minister. It's a dog. It's
a dog at the moment, and I wish I could
be the bearer of better news, but it's dragging the
primary sector down. Yesterday's North Island sale wall twenty five
(29:32):
percent passed in strong Wall Indicator down twenty cents. The
commentary from Steve Fussell, who is the North Island procurement
and sales manager for PGG Rights and Wall, said a
real correction in the market was the final analysis from
today's North Island wallsale. The general mood in the auction
room seemed flat and there was a real pushback and
(29:53):
demand for the poorer wall types. You can't polish a turd,
and I know some people will be offended by that
as well, Bill, but let's face it, Bill, I was
right on this occasion. I might have been wrong about
the atmospheric river on Wednesday, but I was right about
the Wall market, and it's right not to correct the
Prime Minister, but just make them aware that everything's not
(30:15):
fine and dandy in the Wall department. Up next, talking
about the atmospheric River. Chris Brandolino from Niwa. Welcome back
to the country. Enjoying the clash today. Good choice, Michelle,
(30:36):
lots of feedback coming in on the rain. Eleven mills
in Hawarah. That won't be enough. It's very, very dry
in the Taranaki region. We've found our guest. Have you
texted in, Michelle? Yeah, yeah, okay, so this is cool.
Hi Jamie, I'd love to join you at the side
dinner and show you some South Canterbury hospitality regards. Gareth mkirchheer.
(31:00):
That's got to be the same Gareth mcirche who's the
Arange representative in the Young Farmer of the Year Grand Final. Gareth,
you are most welcome to join us. We'll be in
touch after the show. If there's a missus mccirtchheer or
a partner, we're not judgmental. Or if it's just you, Gareth,
spring along a mite. You've got two spices. Chris Brandolina.
(31:22):
The atmospheric River's not hitting everywhere. Where have you go?
I'm here, yeah, okay here, well you go.
Speaker 10 (31:30):
Okay, No, it's you're right. I mean some places had
a really good dropper rain. Obviously the top of the
South Island they made out with the most rainfall, and
they had some really dry conditions there. So the top
totals I could find, and I do want to give
credit this is by way of the has been District Council.
The gauges. So places in Takaka and the hills just
(31:52):
about five hundred millimeters of rain for the events or
half meter. But the many areas one, two, three, four, five,
about four or five locations that I could come across
had anywhere between four and five hundred millimeters of rain.
So that's where the heaviest rain fell. You know, that
was basically aver well advertised and expected. My place, I
(32:12):
had my own little personal weather station Jammie that my
son got me for Christmas, and I recorded it. In
Helensville nearly seventy well seventy four millimeters of rain for
the week, So were good drop of rain at the airport.
How about this stat for you. It's a city slicker stat,
but I think the fine audience members of the country
can identify so at our Auckland location or Auckland Climate
(32:38):
Stations in Western Springs. At that location, I think we
had more rain in the past let's say, forty eight
to thirty six hours than we had in the entire
month of March. In fact, in fact here it is
fifty two point two millimeters occurred over the past two
days at our Western Springs in Auckland Climate station in
(33:00):
March just twelve point four wow, four times.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
What was Chris pay to me from all the ticks
coming in about the weather that like South Waikato, Kin Country,
spots of South Taranaki down into the Massin area, they're
not quite getting the full benefits of the atmospheric river.
Speaker 10 (33:20):
That's correct, That's completely true. Are we do have another
opportunity for rain. Look, it's not going to be as
widespread or as impressive as this past event that's exiting
stage right, but it will bring that. Unfortunately, I think
once again, areas in South Tetanaki, South Wlakoto King Country,
and I'm talking about Sunday and especially Sunday night and
(33:42):
Monday probably gonna be I don't want to say left
high and drive, but they're gonna get more in North
Tetaneki and central and North Wacotto. I think we'll get
some there. So that's some good news. And another round
of rain coming say Tuesday morning, Tuesday afternoon. So between
now and say Tuesday afternoon, there will be other opportunities
for rain. You're going to get a bit colder for
a few days. Temperatures warm up pretty significantly though as
(34:06):
we approach probably this time next week, in the following weekend,
a big old fat high Jamie that comes in and
looks like this time next week with several days of
dry weather hopefully up to the north that sposh comes in.
We get some rain coming from the north as we
work away into school holidays, we'll see.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Okay, Chris Brandolina there from me, we've got to take
a break back with Barry Soaper. Some morir rainfall numbers
north than sixty six meals you'll take that. But in
Tiawamotu only thirteen mills. Andrew says that's a trickle, not
a river. Good commentary, Okay, wrapping the country with Barry Soper.
(34:47):
Just before we do, a parting message from our partners
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(35:07):
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Armstrong dot co dot Nz. Barry Soper to wrap the country.
Barry Winston blows out eighty candles this time next week,
(35:32):
next Friday. He's getting better with age.
Speaker 7 (35:35):
He's like a good wine as Winston, and he's down
a bit of that in his time, I might say.
But look, yeah, he's in his element. Foreign the foreign
Minister's job suits him to a tea. He's smart, he
looks the part, he dresses well, and he can talk
the talk. And who knows, he did it with Marco
(35:57):
Rubio last week. But we all sorry recently, but we
don't know whether that meant that the tariffs were as
low as what they were, but nevertheless he's claiming victory
for it and got on him.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
He's given a bit of a toweling to the Greens
and to Party Mari this week in parliament.
Speaker 7 (36:16):
Well you know you were talking about resetting your mentality.
I mean I've had to this week when you had
Donald Trump and I've got the Greens and the Malori
Party here in Wellington. I mean, absolutely absurd. This Benjamin
Doyle stuff, I think to try and defend this man
against what clearly is objectionum on the material that he
(36:41):
posted online is reprehensible and Chloe Swarbrick should realize that
we've just got over the Tamatha Paul stuff. They're Wellington
Centrally MP saying the police should be abolished, and then
on behold we have the Mole Party saying that the
(37:02):
Privileges Committee is silly and trivial and they want nothing
to do with it. Well, I'm sorry. They joined parliament,
they stood for election. They're written the place unfortunately, and
I've got to abide by the rules. They'd say, the
party our rules. The parliament is a Parkier parliament. They
are being overridden. But look Honestly, Jamie, there's no explaining
(37:24):
to these people. No.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
I feel sorry for Chrisipkins actually having to potentially govern
with them. I've got thirty seconds Seymour's treaty principal Bill
overwhelming opposition. Surely he's got to forget about it.
Speaker 7 (37:36):
Well, you know the thing is, no, I think he's
done exactly what he wanted to do. He's got it
out there being debated. It's like the end of life
choice bill. He got that out there that was controversial.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
That I'm swear you're gone, Barry Yeah, and then it.
Speaker 7 (37:52):
Came into legislation. This who knows further down the track
may do the same.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Okay, Hey, thank you very much for your time. Bars
always appreciate it. Soaper wrapping the show for this week.
Thanks for listening. Even you Bill, just agree to disagree.
Don't call me a see you next Thursday. I'll see
the rest of you guys next Monday.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
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