January 30, 2025 • 38 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Toby Williams, Ray Smith, Emma Poole, Tim Dangen, Quentin Whitehead, and Chris Brandolino.
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Starts come can I New Zealand, Welcome to the Country.
To trant to organize myself here, can't multitask. I'm Jamie mckaye.
The show is brought to you by Rabobank. I'm hoping
and thinking. I've got Toby Williams from Federated Farmers on
the line. We're going to chat to him about a
few things. Of course, there's lots of announcements out there
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at the moment. Federated Farmers reckon. The government's announcement yesterday
of that twenty thirty five climate target is just going
to mean another decade more of planting pine on productive farmland.
Good news. Coying Ura is going to give wall Carpet
produces a chance to tender for some of their work.
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And Federated Farmers and I think a lot of the
country welcomes Shane Jones's efforts to hold banks accountable when
they stray from their core function. Federated Farmers reckon the
bank should leand not lecture. I'm with them on that one.
Ray Smith, Director General of MPI. I've been busy over
(01:46):
the break. Of course. We had the fruit fly scare.
Hopefully we've got that one tidied up, and the bird
flu and we've got foot and mouth disease in Germany.
I guess we've always got to be careful of it.
Here our Farmer panel today, two former Young Farmers of
the Year, Emma Paul and Tim Dangein going to talk
to Quentin Whitehead, well known in sharing circles. Sure is
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way into a farm, shared his way into a farm.
But what's he doing out there? Paying big money for
self shearding sheep remembering his daughter Meghan as a world championsharer,
and if I can track him down before the end
of the hour. Chris Brandolino from Newa Right, let's rip
into it hopefully. Toby Williams, I've got you on the
other end of the line. Gooday, how are you?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Great?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Thanks Jamie.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
I'm pleased to have you on the end of the line.
I wasn't quite sure whether I did. Right. Let's start
with these new twenty thirty five climate targets fifty one
to fifty five percent of missions reductions. Is that realistic?
Speaker 4 (02:46):
No, it's not.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
It's certainly not realistic, and we've got to be really
honest about that. And the government seems to think that
we can plant our way out of this, which is
pulling the preval pine tree over everybody's eyes.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Although what more do you want from the government. They've
cut you quite bit of slack though. There's going to
be no emissions pricing until at least twenty thirty.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
Yeah, I mean that's positive, isn't it. But we've got
to be really honest about our admissions and the amount
of effect that New Zealand actually has. And we're trying
to solve a global problem when the biggest players in
the world just don't care. Not saying we shouldn't care,
but we also should not be ruining our productive sector
and ruin our countryside by putting pine trees on there
that are never going to be harvested.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Okay, well, the pine tree debate, of course, it's not
turned around one point eighty on this one. But what
we are finding now, Toby, and there's a sheep and
beef farmer, you'll appreciate this is that all of a sudden. Well,
we know beef farming's profitable at the moment, but sheep
farming's threatening to be profitable as well, So maybe we
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might get some conversions back from forestry to pasture.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Well, wouldn't that be amazing.
Speaker 6 (03:53):
You know, we did the Quangoro Forest a number of
years ago, is in central Thailand there part of it
anyway through there we had land corps now at Talpo.
But you know the cost of fencing and keeping your
sheep in it's hard enough on a farm with good fences,
little on a co reconverted pine time. So unless we're
going to take out some of these baby pine trees
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where people have got some confidence they go and take
them back out and gray sheep under those farms have
just been planted, I think, you know, it's pretty unrealistic
we're going to be able to farm sheep and some
of the country that's been in pine trees.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Well, you're quoting the Climate Commission here and they're suggesting
another eight hundred and fifty thousand hectares of land needs
to be converted to forestry, and probably to be fair, Toby,
there's quite a bit of land around the country that
could be converted to forestry, but it's not always the
land that people want to convert to forestry, if that
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makes sense.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
Yeah, you're right, and we're looking at the connerervation.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
I say things got there where.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
You know there's low value conservation. We've got Change Jones
who wants to mine it, and we've got the government
who wants to plant trees in it, you know, and
everybody seems to want something to do with them. We
said to have got the high country. Guys want to
put marinos mixed up into them. Marinos are actually a
profitable sheep. We've got to remember that they're growing fantastic
wool and we should be looking at putting those low
impact sheep back through those environments. And we need to
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be really clear that the Prime Minister has been talking
about growth last week and the only thing we're going
to grow out of this policy as pine trees. It's
a backward step to our economy and a backward step
for New England.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Is when we're going to speak to a former sharer
who's just paid big money for a self shareding sheep
is the strong wall industry under threat, and I know
the prices have been lifting. I think they might have
gone back a week bit yesterday sale, but generally they've
been trending upwards, which is good, but they're still a
mile off where they need to be.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
Yeah, and I've been really frustrated for this Dame. We
people are celebrating the fact it's fifteen percent higher than
what we were last this time last year.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
I mean, I'm still losing money.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
We shouldn't be celebrating the effect that we're losing money
from sharing sheep. We need an urgent turnaround and I
think we're probably just past it now. You know, Brentworth
and Waves and New Zealand and these other wall going
groyers can have a good crack at this kind of
raw housing contract now, which will help take the volume
out of the carpet market. But you know, we need returns.
We need decent returns back strong will growers. Otherwise the
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shelf shedding step are going to take over and it's
it'll be a crime.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
And from a breeding process, it's a long way back
if you've gone down the self shedding track to breed
your flock, back to growing wool if it became profitable
in the future.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
Yeah, and it does, and people going there for a
number of reasons, obviously the cost of shearing, but also
the labor advantages from having any self shedding shee. And
you can't blame someone for doing that. There are no
signals there at the moment showing that walls going to
turn itself around by the end of this year when
we desperately needed it last year.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Hey, Toby, I heard a quote that there's forty percent
less work and a self shedding sheep than one that
grows wool.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yeah, it's dagging.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
So I've been back at work for three or four
weeks now and I've spent a good three of those
weeks fixing help with sheep, dipping them, dagging them, making
sure that you know that they're not the megget tactive.
We all know they can be. So the big advantage
that their self shedding sheep where you don't need to
be doing this, and you can see where the attraction
from farmers is. I think the prices that were paid
yesterday or the day before are eye watering, but people
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clearly see there's going to be profitably in those genetics.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
So good on them.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
No tailing or docking, as you North Islanders say it
for some of these sheep as well, right, are you
touched on it? Kyang or giving wall carpet providers the
chance it does I need the chance to tender for
supply of carpet and underlay in its homes. It's not
a given.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
No, it's not a given, and we don't expect it
to be a given.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
I think you know, for wall carpet to be competitive,
they need to be able to price it according accordingly.
And it comes down to those the bream Wars and
walls New Zealands and the Celtics if they're going to
go into these so God for you hear it's not
Celtics go into and quotes are having Warlen carpets into there.
They need to make sure that they've got their manufacturing
right and then they can actually be price competitive, because
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we know what war is an amazing product. And then
if we can get it price competitive, even if it's
a little bit more expensive, suddenly those the values we
all see and all the flame hard see the hyproaergenic
side of things will speak to themselves and we should
have a lot more of it going in to all
of our homes.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Now you're probably cutting Richard McIntire's lunch A wee it
here because it's his area. He's the banking spokesperson for
Federated Farmers. But you guys are welcoming the prints of
the province is getting stuck into the banks, hold them
accountable when they stray from their core function. And you
want banks to lend money, not lecture exactly.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
Yeah, And Richard's are a fantastic job of us for us.
And I think one of the key things is here
is so being dead come out very clearly saying they
want to get out.
Speaker 7 (08:55):
Of fossil fuels.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
Well, the next step from getting out of fossil fuel
is if we go back to the out of our
conversation around the missions as agricultural emissions. So are we
going to start seeing banks kick out farmers because of
our agricultural emissions? You know, if we're treating emissions the same,
then this is the path that we're on. So the
Bank's going to be pretty careful here that we don't
destroy all of our country over their woke ideas.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Okay, just finish on what's happening in your neck of
the woods. You're East coast, your East Coast, Poverty Bay farmer,
how's your season going?
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Amazing?
Speaker 6 (09:28):
You know, we had a very dry going into Christmas.
Christmas Day, I think we had about six inches of rain,
which was more than welcome and it actually ruined everybody summer.
But we're growing plenty of grass. We've got some heat
and some sunshine now and the cattle were doing fantastic.
They're sheep are looking good. You know, we're out My
early rams are out with the US for toping now,
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so we're looking forward to a pretty good result considering
how much green beed was it around the place?
Speaker 5 (09:55):
Okay, Toby Williams, some federated farmers, you guys, keep up
the good work. Appreciate your contribution as always here on
the country.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Yeah, thank you, Jamie.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
There we go, Toby Williams. Now, if you didn't hear it.
At the top of the hour, News Talk SEDB News,
we've got some news on the Dunedin Hospital about bloom
and time too, I would say. Okay, So the government's
confirmed the new Dunedin Hospital inpatient building will be built
at the city's old Cadbury Complex. I hope so, because
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they've done all the groundwork there. Last year the government
invested two hundred and ninety million dollars towards the project,
bringing total funding to one point eight eight billion. New
Health Minister Simeon Brown says the new hospital will have
between three fifty and four hundred beds, up to twenty
four theaters and fifty edes faces. Thank goodness for that one.
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Hopefully they can build us something decent there. They certainly
weren't prepared to spend three billion dollars on it that.
You know, health is a bit of a bottomless hole,
isn't it. This is Lady Antebellum. I think Michelle threw
in some music. It's the Grit. He's on Monday and
she's got some past winners of the Grammys in here.
Good band right up next to Raysmith, Director General of MPI.
(11:10):
They've been busy, haven't they? Over the holiday break, fruit
fly scare trying to tidy up the avian flu breakout
in Otago and of course we've got foot in mouth
disease in Germany. How weary do we have to be?
All that and more from him before the end of
the hour. The Dangeon Panel, Tim Dang, Emma Paul Young
(11:33):
Farmers of the Year, First Regional Grand Final, First Regional Finals,
Should I say? Gets underway in Helensville tomorrow. Quentin Whitehead
and if I can track him down Chris Brandolino, Yes.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Well, sab.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
That your doors always upon land, your pad dispree toward
Raysmith is the director general of MPI. No rest for
the wicked over the holiday break. Of course you had
the fruit fly scare and Auckland, and of course you
had the wash up from the bird flew down south MPI.
You can never rest, Jamie.
Speaker 7 (12:11):
And look at a really busy summer for my teams.
I was actually really proud of them. I mean, a
lot of people came back from leave. We've been prepared
in case something had come, but it was a real
busy summer. With that fruit fly. I was just up
with the team yesterday. I had a look at that
little fruit fly that they're defending. Fruitfly, but she's seen
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it's about five millimeters long as but we're stillware it
said it's edermen and leg this membered while it was
trying to be analyzed. But look, it's the only one
that's turned up, thankfully. But you know, great great effort
by the team to get out there quickly into the
community of Peptoto. A really good response from the community
we've got every tree map in that in those zones
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and peptoto that we set up, and we're keeping an
eye on those who've cut up about two one hundred
and seventy old kilograms of fruit cutting fijoas when I
was there yesterday just going through them. We haven't found
any additional larvae or anything. So look, what can be
quite a devastating thing if it sets itself up in
New Zealand and gets established. Looks like we've got through
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this one again a little bit of thirteenth time. I
think if we clear this fruit player, So we've got
to get the fourteen February Jamie, and if we're there
and clear, then that's all done.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
Can we officially kick the avy and flow the bird
flew down south to touch?
Speaker 7 (13:30):
Yeah, I think we're pretty close. So we did a
lot of testing on the associated sites with that Big
Hill Grove site. So the Big Hill Grove site, you know,
two hundred and twenty thousand birds that was all cold,
that's been cleaned out and has been disinfected now, so
that process that'll go on for another month or so.
It's a really big process because it's a big farm.
But we tested all the associated sites with that, with
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that one, you know, where there have been movements of material,
product and flock. Thousands of tests undertaken. When we got
to when he was nearly Christmas Eve, all of those
came back clear and there was a big relief because
he had some big sites down there, including that large
Wakawayiti plant. About twenty five per cent about years go through.
So look, I think we've got it a little bit
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to go yet, but in a good place so far.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Foot and mouth disease in Germany. It's just a reminder
to us that we've got to be ever vigilant because
that is the mother of all biosecurity incursions.
Speaker 7 (14:29):
Absolutely, and so you know, I think it was a
herd of buffalo there that packed up the disease. It
hasn't spread any further, thankfully. This disease that spread so
fast that it's obviously notifiable to everybody. But look, we
got good notification, We got on and put some controls
in place. So any product that's come into New Zealand
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from Germany from the twelfth of December we're having a
good close look at to make sure that we're not
consumed about anything about it. But Frankly, I think they've
got that under control. But you know, look, it is
a big reminder, and I think this summer season so
far has been a big reminder on biosecurity related matters.
You just can't take any of this stuff for granted.
And I was out at the airport yesterday in Ooklands
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with the people, which is one of our biggest risk
sites for something coming into the country, and you know,
we've had an increase in passengers and I think they've
done a really grand job of kind of smoothing people
through the process and making sure that we're finding stuff
on the way through. I watched one of the detective
dogs We've got more dogs this year, stop a passenger
and go through the bag and Perssenger done the right thing.
And I listened to them after they said, aren't those
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dogs clear? They knew we had a bit on and
their bag back in Hong Kong.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
All right, Well, segue from aving or bird flu to ducks.
The ducks aligning bad pun for the primary sect. We
had Rabobanks Emma Higgins m with their latest commodity outlook,
and you know, everything's looking pretty positive.
Speaker 7 (15:51):
Look that the fundamentals of the Zealand agricultural system are great.
And you know, what you've got to remember is we
live in a world that's the population is increasing, the
disposable income of the countries that we trade with is
increasing like the wealth of those nations, and the world's
getting hotter. And we're in a part of the world
where climate change wi effect us but not as much
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as others. And the future for us is really really positive.
But I think we're starting to grow again a bit.
You know, dairy is an amazing place and I think,
as we talked about before, we can grow more on dairy.
I went through a big meat plant sort of upgrade.
Helliby's up in Auckland, sort of close to the old
Westfield freezing works there. For those that will know that
that spot of the country burg upgrade, they're investing heavily.
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They can see the opportunities in markets and domestically to
produce more. So look, you know, look guys with wine growers,
tuners and grows, silver Fern, Frontier, Ravens down, all of
them are looking forward and looking forward to a better year.
These challenges there and there'll be a bit of consolidation
as people try to work out you know whether they've
got the right amount of assets in the right places.
But fundamentally, I think we'll have a much better season
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than last year.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Okay, just quickly to finish on what's your focus for
the year ahead.
Speaker 7 (17:02):
Big focus for us is to help grow the value
of New Zealand's food and fiber sector. And there's four
big things we'll be focusing on. Helping double the value
of exports, delivering solutions for farmers for greenhouse gaest solutions
on farm protecting us from those harmful pest and diseases,
so you know, keeping up the vice pretty focus, and
last but most importantly, backing the primary sector the win.
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Each and every day we hear.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Good on your Ray Smith, Director General of MPI. Good
to chat and congratulations to your team who had to
break their summer holidays to beat the evil fruit fly.
Good on you you keep our borders safe.
Speaker 7 (17:37):
Thanks Jamie, and and world done to everyone out there
that supported us and that efforts.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Twenty eight turn your mic on. That's a good idea.
Thank you, Ray twenty eight. After twelve I think I'm
still recovering from the Australian Teena's open now my favorite
politician at the moment. The Minister of digging it up
and damning it up. Resources Minister Shane Jones says he's
aiming to double exports to three billion dollars by twenty
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thirty five by boosting mining. He's been launching the National
Mineral Strategy out of why he mined this morning. Protesters
attended the announcement shock horaor, including Green MP Steve Abel. Jones,
says we need to grow our economy and to slamming
banks whose climate policies are guiding them to stop working
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with fossil fuel companies. He calls it woke, riddled intimidation.
Go you good thing, Shane Jones. Right up next at
two bright young things or relatively bright young things in
New Zealand Farming Emmerpaul Tim Danjin, both former Young Farmers
of the Year. It's the Dungeon Panel up next week, Dangeranger,
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but the first time in twenty twenty five it is
the Dungeon Panel. Yes, brother and sister of course. Tim
Danngeon twenty twenty two Young Farmer of the Year FMG
Young Farmer of the Year and his younger sister Emma
twenty twenty three Young Farmer of the year, Tim, I'll
start with you on your west Auckland beef farm. You
want twenty twenty five to be the year of the farmer?
Speaker 8 (19:30):
Here you get a Jamie good to be here. I'm
fizziting mate for twenty twenty five. I think it's a
really exciting opportunity for US farmers to lead the economy
out of a very long and slow recession that we're witnessing.
And I just think that we've had a couple of
years of the negative duo of locomodity prices and high
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interest rates and we're going to get the opposites of
the effects. So I think it's a really exciting year.
There's heaps of opportunity out there, and it's about making
sure that as a sector we're really capitaliz eyes on it.
So I'd like to see US farmers keep the pressure
in the acid on government officials to make sure that
they're being quite aggressive, I think with some of their
stances around policy on farming, to make sure that we
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can sort of aim to unleash some of the potential
that we have. Prior to Christmas, I actually had a
conversation with Ian Proudfoot from KPMG and he thinks that
we're sitting on about another one hundred and fifty billion
dollars worth of export potential if we reach it. So yeah,
I'd love to see us work towards that and this
this is the year to start making some really really
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strong in roads to it.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
I think we've.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
Already heard from Ray Smith, the Director General of MPI,
on the show Emma Paul and one thing that he
the idea that he's been floating, and I think Cameron
Bagrie has been as well, and that is the idea
of more dairy conversions. Because if we're going to double
exports in the next ten years, the dairy industry's going
to have to do some heavy lifting. How would that
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go down on your province of the Wyhaddow?
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Good afternoon, Jane, And I'm not sure there's that much
to be converted left around the Ykit. There's mainly dairy
farms here. But what I would say on that note
is that we actually have a lot of a lot
of potential just to gain more from what we are
already doing. And if I put my vet hats on here, Jane,
I toured late last year with the Fonterra team, talking
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to many vets about this, that the cost of animal
health and insidious disease on farm is actually costing us
in so many different ways in that there's a lot
of potential that we can get from our cows just
if we can get some of these animal health conditions
under control. And I hear on your show in the
ad breaks that beef and lamb is getting to grips
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with facial XMA in the North Island, which is probably
not something you've dealt with a lot in the South Island,
but it is a huge issue up here and it
does cost us a lot of production. So why don't
we not just focus on expanding, but knuckle down and
focus on what we are doing and make sure that
we are doing it really well. And there's a few
other diseases the likes of BB and such floating around
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that could also be eliminated and result in more production
from the same amount of cows, which ultimately would be
more efficient production too. If we talk in terms of
me saying too.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
Jamie, Okay, let's ask the pair of you how you
are faring individually on farm. Back to you, Tim, I'm
looking at my knee. We're drought index map as I
do every day, and your neck of the woods and
hims as well in the white catto looking dry you.
Speaker 8 (22:26):
We are trying to be fair, Jamie. We've just had
this relentless wind from the southwest which has finally started
to ease in the last week, but other parts of
Northham have had decent rain in the last fortnight. We
got sort of twenty five meals on the weekend, but
we need that fill up, raym But there still heaps
her rank sort of standing feed around, so kettle are
heavy enough, that's for sure.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
So beef farmer. Of course, record returns. You'll be laughing
all the way to the bank to now I wonder
you could afford to buy your mum the new cub
cadet right on Moa.
Speaker 8 (22:55):
She's riding around and that with a big grin on
her face, which is great. But yeah, the returns are fantastic, Jamie.
It's pretty amazing to see them hold for a summer
period like this. You know, Bill beef is still well
up over seven dollars ten a quilo, and we've got
prime going off next week that we should get seven
dollars for so it's holding store prices up as well.
But that's just indicated from a lack of supply really,
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So I think we've had a couple of years where
carfuring numbers have been down and the flying effects of
that are coming through. But hopefully this is a bit
of a new normal, these higher commodity prices and farmers
can look to replenish some of the assets that they
haven't worked on over the last couple of years with
things been quite tight in the shemb sector.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
Well, Trump's tariffs aside, the US seems to have an
insatiable demand for our beef.
Speaker 8 (23:44):
Yeah, and I think they will long term as well, Jamie.
So that's our Trump card, I suppose for the teriff conversation.
But yep, and the low dollar, just like em Higgins
Missa mentioned yesterday, Jamie, that's going to be a relays
of our sleeve this year. So yeah, really looking forward
to a positive tour.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
On twenty five, Well, Emma Paul will go from Emma
to Emma Emma Paul ten dollars twenty five. ASB has
their milk forecast price at now, we're really starting to
cook with gas. If that was to come to pass, yeah,
it wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Let their record And I had a quick geeze over
the last decades payouts, and of those last ten years
of payouts, we've had fifty percent of them over seven
dollars in, fifty percent of them under, So it'd be
good to keep it up. Ten dollars would be an
absolute record payout, wouldn't it. So the dairy farmers would
be very happy with that.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Now is it tomorrow at the Helensville amp Showgrounds the
journey to July's FMG Young Farmer of the Year Grand
Final and then the cargol starts tomorrow? As I said,
at Allensville, that's your neck of the woods, Tommy, you're
going along. This is the Northern Regional final.
Speaker 8 (24:49):
Of course, yes, absolutely, Jamie will be there with bells on,
really looking forward to it. The weather's going to play
ball as well. The Convena, Zarnie Ferguson, has done an
awesome job and pulling together that volunteer network to make
these events run. So we'll be getting along and championing
the team and looking forward to finding our first grand finalists.
And there's some fantastic prizes up for grabs as well.
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The winner's walking away with that Hondo one two five
motorbike as well as several other thousand dollars worth of prizes.
So yeah, it's really exciting to get into it and
see the next generation of young farmers coming through.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
Yeah, we'll talk to Radar on Monday show and tell
you who won that one. Hey, Emma, just to finish
on you, Ma, Paul, you were the first female Young
Farmer of the Year and twenty twenty three you broke
the grass ceiling. Interestingly, tomorrow at the Helens val A
and p Showgrounds, Kate Hawkins, who is a digger driver,
is going to be competing for the title against her
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partner Daniel Richards. What a great story, What a.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Great story, and may she go well and I'm sure
it sounds like she's got lots of practical skills and
hopefully she does well in the exam and the likes
as well, because you've got to be well rounded to
do well in these things. But so exciting to see
more females out there, Jomie getting amongst such a great contest.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
Yeah, we're twenty five percent of the regional qualifiers are
now women. Fantastic. Okay, guys, thank you very much for
your time. We'll leave you, love you and leave you.
Speaker 8 (26:11):
Thanks Jamie, Jami.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Thanks Tom, Thanks Emma. Twenty two away from one, I'll
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News before the end of the hour, The Sharer that's
breeding self shedding sheep and Chris Brandolino from newa.
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Sa another former Grammy winner, Chris Stapleton here on the
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and dairy bullbeef, the sheep costs the most and are
by far the most work for the least or no return.
I think it's turning around, though. I think that the
future for sheep farming's gonna get better, couldn't get much
worse than it was last year. Here's Michelle with the
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big as regret as the Warriors captain from five to nine.
The Australian wishes they could have offered and this is
fair enough too. I guess a better memorial to teammate
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(28:58):
Price says finishing four out of sixteenth team out of
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much Fire meant to them. He says, they didn't perform
to the standard they wanted to in order to have
a real crack for him. And that is your sports news.
Up next, a sharer, in fact, the champion sharer who's
going to breed some self shedding sheep. Now I can
(29:33):
promise you this song is not a finalist or a
previous winner of a Grammy or a Country Award at
the Grammys. This is new music to me. This is
DJ sash an Ecuador. It already wrecks of drugs, doesn't it.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Now.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
The reason we're playing it is because our next guest
on the country an old sharing made of mine, Quentin Whitehead.
I said I'll play some music, and he what was
your favorite sharing song? And I thought he'd go with
ac DC or something like that. But Quintin, No, DJ
sash and Ecuador. Did that do it for you?
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Well?
Speaker 5 (30:07):
I did.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
It was the best way to get the blood up
and get things pumping. So you hit that first sheep
with a bit of pace and you know that the
whole as quick as you could. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
What about your daughter, Megan, who's the world record holder?
What what does she like sharing too?
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Oh? She spathetic, She listens to all the old stuff. Yeah,
I'm really disappointed in her playlist.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Well I had to sleep.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
Oh well, I reckon a lot of your old sharing
mates will be really disappointed with you, Champion sharer. I
know you had a cracket. Did you ever get a
world record? I know you had to crack at them.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
No, I never actually cried for a world record with
South Well, just just the cost of it was just
too expensive for me. I was too too hungry, really,
I wanted a farm.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
So well you've got a farm now. And I'm saying
that your old sharing mates will be disappointed in you
because you're going to start breeding self shearing sheep. You're
going to do your daughter out of a job.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Well here, but that's not it's not my job to
the wall industry. It's there's plenty of people who have
been trying for years and they've failed. So yeah, it
just gets to the stage where I love well. I mean,
I'm a you know, we've got wall in our house,
so I wear west Ridge jerseys, you know, the best
jersey on the market. But if I'm going to keep
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farming for much longer, I've got to cut my workload.
And if I get rid of the war, I get
rid of my workload. And I haven't made money at
a wall for at least eight ten years, so yeah,
we're going to lose money again this year.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
So yeah, I hope I'm not speaking out of turn now,
but and I guess it's public knowledge. It was a
public auction twenty four and a half thousand dollars was
paid for an ex Lana Wiltshire cross ram and I
think it was Hamershbowski, who is a reasonably high profile
farmer in himself. There, big region farmer. He's gone and
boots and all.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Yeah, yeah, there's I mean, there's quite a few people.
I mean, it's just it's just dollars and cents really,
you know, like you, they're sheitting cheaper ethically, are getting
better and better. They started from a fairly low base, granted,
but there's some really savvy people now breeding these shedding
cheap and bringing in a lot of different breeds, a
lot of different semen from overseas, and the heading in
(32:14):
the right direction. I reckon. You know, I've just weighed
up lands this morning and you could tell the lambs
that were shedding the most, they were always the heaviest
across the scales and they yield really really well.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
What about going for the sheep that have no wool
at all? I think Derek Daniel's breading them. Why rarely
call some of the nudies they've only got a week
fine that a hair like a goat or something like that.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Yeah, there was noody crosses at that auction as well,
the one that I brought. He's fifty percent explana and
only twenty five percent Wiltshire and twenty five percent of
the white. So you know, the Izzie white, I think
has probably got something to offer. It's got into muscular
fat like the wagyu beef. And yeah, I mean we
(32:58):
had one of our best lambings ever the year and
we had some atrocious weather, so you know, they've got survivability,
they've got vigor, they've got good growth rates and very
high yielding. They yield higher than anything that I've found before.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
So are you going to did you buy the ram
just for your own breeding purposes? So are you going
to set up a stud? No?
Speaker 4 (33:18):
No, not set up a stud myself, but no, I
just really get into genetics, and I think it's money
well spent to I'm not seven and a half thousand dollars,
but when you think about you know what he's going
to give me. And as I said before, you know,
the genetics aren't probably quite as good as they could
(33:39):
be in the future. So you really have to target
those really good rams to get there as fast as
you can, because, let's face it, on coming up sixty
one now, so I haven't got that much longer. I
need to get there in a hurry.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Sees, you're an old biger. You give me on the
pension shortly, Hey, Quentin, it'll be gone by the time
you get there. Hey, just very quickly. What's me up
to this year? Any world record attempts?
Speaker 4 (34:02):
No, not this year. No, she's going to have a
year off. She's just trying to change a pat and
the weaver get her first time in league a little
bit better. And yeah, she's after a fairly hefty sort
of target, so we need to get it right. We
don't need to be failing on record attempts. So yep,
she'll do her best and we'll do our best and
we'll probably give it a cracker a year after next.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Got on you, Quentin. Always good to catch up again.
There we go, Quentin Whitehead and a bit of Ecuador
from DJ Sash. Okay, we're going to wrap it with
Chris Brandolena if I can track them down from Neeway.
But just before I forget. Every year fifteen thousand farmers
boost their well being thanks to farm Strong. They do
a great job. What's the one thing that you could
(34:43):
change to make farming a little easier on mind and body.
For me, it would be not playing DJ sash. To
see what other farmers are doing, head to the farm
strong website this weekend farmstrong dot co dot and said,
I've got the tools and resources on how to help
navigate the ups and downs of farming and stay in
a good head space. We along with obviously farmstrong and
(35:07):
to catch you next week, but not before we catch
up with Chrisprain Deleno. Okay, let's wrap the country with
Chris Brandalino from newa He hasn't heard of GJ DJ
(35:27):
sash in Ecuador either, Chris, three minutes to go. Is
it going to rain in the dry parts?
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Yeah, We're going to get some rain in the western
part of the North Island, so central and western North
Island tomorrow on Saturday. There will be some showers and thunderstorms,
so that will help, but it's not going to be
enough otherwise. I think some of the big headlines for
the upcoming next several days it's going to be warmth.
Much of the Upper North Island, the Wakato north wind
Auckland are going to see temperatures anywhere from the upper
(35:56):
twenties to near maybe just above thirty, particularly as we
work away through Sunday and Monday, we could see some
really warm temperatures and with that there will be a
bit of humidity, so some juice to the air. So yeah,
a warm weekend coming up. In terms of rain or
meaningful rain, as you say, in the places that could
really use it. Unfortunately, we're not looking at anything extensive.
(36:17):
It's going to be pretty much a dry first week
to maybe eight nine days of the month, Jamie. We
just issued our long range outlook or updated seasonal Klimben
out look. It was a chili January, no doubt about
it for a good chunk of the country. Look, it's
going to be a warmer February for sure. I know
that's not hard to say given how cool it was,
but certainly a warmer Lean. It'll be a dry start,
(36:40):
but we think much of the country will have either
near or above normal rainfall, so it's a spectrum near
to above normal in that and between those two end points.
Got to watch the end of white tonguey weekend, Jamie,
because the tropics are going to become more active and
there are indications we could see tropical cyclone and a
lot the Watts how that behaves because whenever the tropics
(37:03):
get more active, that means our awareness should increase, and
it should because it could move south.
Speaker 5 (37:09):
Okay, so there we go, Chris Brandolena, thank you very
much for your time. You have a good weekend. And
I know as a Native American not on the Native
American born in America, where we share our sympathies with
you over what happened in Washington. Absolutely tragic, tragic. Yeah,
I walked across the Potomac River not more than three
(37:31):
months ago and to think just down from the bridge
I walked across that happened. It is terrible. There you go.
You got to take your opportunity's life and be fleeting
Chris Brandolino there from newah you could go to the
farm Strong playlist. I don't think Ecuador and DJ Sash
is on the farm Strong playlist, but go and try
(37:53):
that one out on iHeartRadio. We will catch you back
on Monday. Have a great weekend.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
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Starts come can I New Zealand, Welcome to the Country.
To trant to organize myself here, can't multitask. I'm Jamie mckaye.
The show is brought to you by Rabobank. I'm hoping
and thinking. I've got Toby Williams from Federated Farmers on
the line. We're going to chat to him about a
few things. Of course, there's lots of announcements out there
(01:04):
at the moment. Federated Farmers reckon. The government's announcement yesterday
of that twenty thirty five climate target is just going
to mean another decade more of planting pine on productive farmland.
Good news. Coying Ura is going to give wall Carpet
produces a chance to tender for some of their work.
(01:25):
And Federated Farmers and I think a lot of the
country welcomes Shane Jones's efforts to hold banks accountable when
they stray from their core function. Federated Farmers reckon the
bank should leand not lecture. I'm with them on that one.
Ray Smith, Director General of MPI. I've been busy over
(01:46):
the break. Of course. We had the fruit fly scare.
Hopefully we've got that one tidied up, and the bird
flu and we've got foot and mouth disease in Germany.
I guess we've always got to be careful of it.
Here our Farmer panel today, two former Young Farmers of
the Year, Emma Paul and Tim Dangein going to talk
to Quentin Whitehead, well known in sharing circles. Sure is
(02:07):
way into a farm, shared his way into a farm.
But what's he doing out there? Paying big money for
self shearding sheep remembering his daughter Meghan as a world championsharer,
and if I can track him down before the end
of the hour. Chris Brandolino from Newa Right, let's rip
into it hopefully. Toby Williams, I've got you on the
other end of the line. Gooday, how are you?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Great?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Thanks Jamie.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
I'm pleased to have you on the end of the line.
I wasn't quite sure whether I did. Right. Let's start
with these new twenty thirty five climate targets fifty one
to fifty five percent of missions reductions. Is that realistic?
Speaker 4 (02:46):
No, it's not.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
It's certainly not realistic, and we've got to be really
honest about that. And the government seems to think that
we can plant our way out of this, which is
pulling the preval pine tree over everybody's eyes.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Although what more do you want from the government. They've
cut you quite bit of slack though. There's going to
be no emissions pricing until at least twenty thirty.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
Yeah, I mean that's positive, isn't it. But we've got
to be really honest about our admissions and the amount
of effect that New Zealand actually has. And we're trying
to solve a global problem when the biggest players in
the world just don't care. Not saying we shouldn't care,
but we also should not be ruining our productive sector
and ruin our countryside by putting pine trees on there
that are never going to be harvested.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Okay, well, the pine tree debate, of course, it's not
turned around one point eighty on this one. But what
we are finding now, Toby, and there's a sheep and
beef farmer, you'll appreciate this is that all of a sudden. Well,
we know beef farming's profitable at the moment, but sheep
farming's threatening to be profitable as well, So maybe we
(03:47):
might get some conversions back from forestry to pasture.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Well, wouldn't that be amazing.
Speaker 6 (03:53):
You know, we did the Quangoro Forest a number of
years ago, is in central Thailand there part of it
anyway through there we had land corps now at Talpo.
But you know the cost of fencing and keeping your
sheep in it's hard enough on a farm with good fences,
little on a co reconverted pine time. So unless we're
going to take out some of these baby pine trees
(04:14):
where people have got some confidence they go and take
them back out and gray sheep under those farms have
just been planted, I think, you know, it's pretty unrealistic
we're going to be able to farm sheep and some
of the country that's been in pine trees.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Well, you're quoting the Climate Commission here and they're suggesting
another eight hundred and fifty thousand hectares of land needs
to be converted to forestry, and probably to be fair, Toby,
there's quite a bit of land around the country that
could be converted to forestry, but it's not always the
land that people want to convert to forestry, if that
(04:47):
makes sense.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
Yeah, you're right, and we're looking at the connerervation.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
I say things got there where.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
You know there's low value conservation. We've got Change Jones
who wants to mine it, and we've got the government
who wants to plant trees in it, you know, and
everybody seems to want something to do with them. We
said to have got the high country. Guys want to
put marinos mixed up into them. Marinos are actually a
profitable sheep. We've got to remember that they're growing fantastic
wool and we should be looking at putting those low
impact sheep back through those environments. And we need to
(05:15):
be really clear that the Prime Minister has been talking
about growth last week and the only thing we're going
to grow out of this policy as pine trees. It's
a backward step to our economy and a backward step
for New England.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Is when we're going to speak to a former sharer
who's just paid big money for a self shareding sheep
is the strong wall industry under threat, and I know
the prices have been lifting. I think they might have
gone back a week bit yesterday sale, but generally they've
been trending upwards, which is good, but they're still a
mile off where they need to be.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
Yeah, and I've been really frustrated for this Dame. We
people are celebrating the fact it's fifteen percent higher than
what we were last this time last year.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
I mean, I'm still losing money.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
We shouldn't be celebrating the effect that we're losing money
from sharing sheep. We need an urgent turnaround and I
think we're probably just past it now. You know, Brentworth
and Waves and New Zealand and these other wall going
groyers can have a good crack at this kind of
raw housing contract now, which will help take the volume
out of the carpet market. But you know, we need returns.
We need decent returns back strong will growers. Otherwise the
(06:15):
shelf shedding step are going to take over and it's
it'll be a crime.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
And from a breeding process, it's a long way back
if you've gone down the self shedding track to breed
your flock, back to growing wool if it became profitable
in the future.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
Yeah, and it does, and people going there for a
number of reasons, obviously the cost of shearing, but also
the labor advantages from having any self shedding shee. And
you can't blame someone for doing that. There are no
signals there at the moment showing that walls going to
turn itself around by the end of this year when
we desperately needed it last year.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Hey, Toby, I heard a quote that there's forty percent
less work and a self shedding sheep than one that
grows wool.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yeah, it's dagging.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
So I've been back at work for three or four
weeks now and I've spent a good three of those
weeks fixing help with sheep, dipping them, dagging them, making
sure that you know that they're not the megget tactive.
We all know they can be. So the big advantage
that their self shedding sheep where you don't need to
be doing this, and you can see where the attraction
from farmers is. I think the prices that were paid
yesterday or the day before are eye watering, but people
(07:20):
clearly see there's going to be profitably in those genetics.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
So good on them.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
No tailing or docking, as you North Islanders say it
for some of these sheep as well, right, are you
touched on it? Kyang or giving wall carpet providers the
chance it does I need the chance to tender for
supply of carpet and underlay in its homes. It's not
a given.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
No, it's not a given, and we don't expect it
to be a given.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
I think you know, for wall carpet to be competitive,
they need to be able to price it according accordingly.
And it comes down to those the bream Wars and
walls New Zealands and the Celtics if they're going to
go into these so God for you hear it's not
Celtics go into and quotes are having Warlen carpets into there.
They need to make sure that they've got their manufacturing
right and then they can actually be price competitive, because
(08:06):
we know what war is an amazing product. And then
if we can get it price competitive, even if it's
a little bit more expensive, suddenly those the values we
all see and all the flame hard see the hyproaergenic
side of things will speak to themselves and we should
have a lot more of it going in to all
of our homes.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Now you're probably cutting Richard McIntire's lunch A wee it
here because it's his area. He's the banking spokesperson for
Federated Farmers. But you guys are welcoming the prints of
the province is getting stuck into the banks, hold them
accountable when they stray from their core function. And you
want banks to lend money, not lecture exactly.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
Yeah, And Richard's are a fantastic job of us for us.
And I think one of the key things is here
is so being dead come out very clearly saying they
want to get out.
Speaker 7 (08:55):
Of fossil fuels.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
Well, the next step from getting out of fossil fuel
is if we go back to the out of our
conversation around the missions as agricultural emissions. So are we
going to start seeing banks kick out farmers because of
our agricultural emissions? You know, if we're treating emissions the same,
then this is the path that we're on. So the
Bank's going to be pretty careful here that we don't
destroy all of our country over their woke ideas.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Okay, just finish on what's happening in your neck of
the woods. You're East coast, your East Coast, Poverty Bay farmer,
how's your season going?
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Amazing?
Speaker 6 (09:28):
You know, we had a very dry going into Christmas.
Christmas Day, I think we had about six inches of rain,
which was more than welcome and it actually ruined everybody summer.
But we're growing plenty of grass. We've got some heat
and some sunshine now and the cattle were doing fantastic.
They're sheep are looking good. You know, we're out My
early rams are out with the US for toping now,
(09:49):
so we're looking forward to a pretty good result considering
how much green beed was it around the place?
Speaker 5 (09:55):
Okay, Toby Williams, some federated farmers, you guys, keep up
the good work. Appreciate your contribution as always here on
the country.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Yeah, thank you, Jamie.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
There we go, Toby Williams. Now, if you didn't hear it.
At the top of the hour, News Talk SEDB News,
we've got some news on the Dunedin Hospital about bloom
and time too, I would say. Okay, So the government's
confirmed the new Dunedin Hospital inpatient building will be built
at the city's old Cadbury Complex. I hope so, because
(10:24):
they've done all the groundwork there. Last year the government
invested two hundred and ninety million dollars towards the project,
bringing total funding to one point eight eight billion. New
Health Minister Simeon Brown says the new hospital will have
between three fifty and four hundred beds, up to twenty
four theaters and fifty edes faces. Thank goodness for that one.
(10:45):
Hopefully they can build us something decent there. They certainly
weren't prepared to spend three billion dollars on it that.
You know, health is a bit of a bottomless hole,
isn't it. This is Lady Antebellum. I think Michelle threw
in some music. It's the Grit. He's on Monday and
she's got some past winners of the Grammys in here.
Good band right up next to Raysmith, Director General of MPI.
(11:10):
They've been busy, haven't they? Over the holiday break, fruit
fly scare trying to tidy up the avian flu breakout
in Otago and of course we've got foot in mouth
disease in Germany. How weary do we have to be?
All that and more from him before the end of
the hour. The Dangeon Panel, Tim Dang, Emma Paul Young
(11:33):
Farmers of the Year, First Regional Grand Final, First Regional Finals,
Should I say? Gets underway in Helensville tomorrow. Quentin Whitehead
and if I can track him down Chris Brandolino, Yes.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Well, sab.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
That your doors always upon land, your pad dispree toward
Raysmith is the director general of MPI. No rest for
the wicked over the holiday break. Of course you had
the fruit fly scare and Auckland, and of course you
had the wash up from the bird flew down south MPI.
You can never rest, Jamie.
Speaker 7 (12:11):
And look at a really busy summer for my teams.
I was actually really proud of them. I mean, a
lot of people came back from leave. We've been prepared
in case something had come, but it was a real
busy summer. With that fruit fly. I was just up
with the team yesterday. I had a look at that
little fruit fly that they're defending. Fruitfly, but she's seen
(12:32):
it's about five millimeters long as but we're stillware it
said it's edermen and leg this membered while it was
trying to be analyzed. But look, it's the only one
that's turned up, thankfully. But you know, great great effort
by the team to get out there quickly into the
community of Peptoto. A really good response from the community
we've got every tree map in that in those zones
(12:54):
and peptoto that we set up, and we're keeping an
eye on those who've cut up about two one hundred
and seventy old kilograms of fruit cutting fijoas when I
was there yesterday just going through them. We haven't found
any additional larvae or anything. So look, what can be
quite a devastating thing if it sets itself up in
New Zealand and gets established. Looks like we've got through
(13:15):
this one again a little bit of thirteenth time. I
think if we clear this fruit player, So we've got
to get the fourteen February Jamie, and if we're there
and clear, then that's all done.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
Can we officially kick the avy and flow the bird
flew down south to touch?
Speaker 7 (13:30):
Yeah, I think we're pretty close. So we did a
lot of testing on the associated sites with that Big
Hill Grove site. So the Big Hill Grove site, you know,
two hundred and twenty thousand birds that was all cold,
that's been cleaned out and has been disinfected now, so
that process that'll go on for another month or so.
It's a really big process because it's a big farm.
But we tested all the associated sites with that, with
(13:52):
that one, you know, where there have been movements of material,
product and flock. Thousands of tests undertaken. When we got
to when he was nearly Christmas Eve, all of those
came back clear and there was a big relief because
he had some big sites down there, including that large
Wakawayiti plant. About twenty five per cent about years go through.
So look, I think we've got it a little bit
(14:13):
to go yet, but in a good place so far.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Foot and mouth disease in Germany. It's just a reminder
to us that we've got to be ever vigilant because
that is the mother of all biosecurity incursions.
Speaker 7 (14:29):
Absolutely, and so you know, I think it was a
herd of buffalo there that packed up the disease. It
hasn't spread any further, thankfully. This disease that spread so
fast that it's obviously notifiable to everybody. But look, we
got good notification, We got on and put some controls
in place. So any product that's come into New Zealand
(14:50):
from Germany from the twelfth of December we're having a
good close look at to make sure that we're not
consumed about anything about it. But Frankly, I think they've
got that under control. But you know, look, it is
a big reminder, and I think this summer season so
far has been a big reminder on biosecurity related matters.
You just can't take any of this stuff for granted.
And I was out at the airport yesterday in Ooklands
(15:11):
with the people, which is one of our biggest risk
sites for something coming into the country, and you know,
we've had an increase in passengers and I think they've
done a really grand job of kind of smoothing people
through the process and making sure that we're finding stuff
on the way through. I watched one of the detective
dogs We've got more dogs this year, stop a passenger
and go through the bag and Perssenger done the right thing.
And I listened to them after they said, aren't those
(15:33):
dogs clear? They knew we had a bit on and
their bag back in Hong Kong.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
All right, Well, segue from aving or bird flu to ducks.
The ducks aligning bad pun for the primary sect. We
had Rabobanks Emma Higgins m with their latest commodity outlook,
and you know, everything's looking pretty positive.
Speaker 7 (15:51):
Look that the fundamentals of the Zealand agricultural system are great.
And you know, what you've got to remember is we
live in a world that's the population is increasing, the
disposable income of the countries that we trade with is
increasing like the wealth of those nations, and the world's
getting hotter. And we're in a part of the world
where climate change wi effect us but not as much
(16:12):
as others. And the future for us is really really positive.
But I think we're starting to grow again a bit.
You know, dairy is an amazing place and I think,
as we talked about before, we can grow more on dairy.
I went through a big meat plant sort of upgrade.
Helliby's up in Auckland, sort of close to the old
Westfield freezing works there. For those that will know that
that spot of the country burg upgrade, they're investing heavily.
(16:35):
They can see the opportunities in markets and domestically to
produce more. So look, you know, look guys with wine growers,
tuners and grows, silver Fern, Frontier, Ravens down, all of
them are looking forward and looking forward to a better year.
These challenges there and there'll be a bit of consolidation
as people try to work out you know whether they've
got the right amount of assets in the right places.
But fundamentally, I think we'll have a much better season
(16:57):
than last year.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Okay, just quickly to finish on what's your focus for
the year ahead.
Speaker 7 (17:02):
Big focus for us is to help grow the value
of New Zealand's food and fiber sector. And there's four
big things we'll be focusing on. Helping double the value
of exports, delivering solutions for farmers for greenhouse gaest solutions
on farm protecting us from those harmful pest and diseases,
so you know, keeping up the vice pretty focus, and
last but most importantly, backing the primary sector the win.
(17:25):
Each and every day we hear.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Good on your Ray Smith, Director General of MPI. Good
to chat and congratulations to your team who had to
break their summer holidays to beat the evil fruit fly.
Good on you you keep our borders safe.
Speaker 7 (17:37):
Thanks Jamie, and and world done to everyone out there
that supported us and that efforts.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Twenty eight turn your mic on. That's a good idea.
Thank you, Ray twenty eight. After twelve I think I'm
still recovering from the Australian Teena's open now my favorite
politician at the moment. The Minister of digging it up
and damning it up. Resources Minister Shane Jones says he's
aiming to double exports to three billion dollars by twenty
(18:07):
thirty five by boosting mining. He's been launching the National
Mineral Strategy out of why he mined this morning. Protesters
attended the announcement shock horaor, including Green MP Steve Abel. Jones,
says we need to grow our economy and to slamming
banks whose climate policies are guiding them to stop working
(18:29):
with fossil fuel companies. He calls it woke, riddled intimidation.
Go you good thing, Shane Jones. Right up next at
two bright young things or relatively bright young things in
New Zealand Farming Emmerpaul Tim Danjin, both former Young Farmers
of the Year. It's the Dungeon Panel up next week, Dangeranger,
(19:06):
but the first time in twenty twenty five it is
the Dungeon Panel. Yes, brother and sister of course. Tim
Danngeon twenty twenty two Young Farmer of the Year FMG
Young Farmer of the Year and his younger sister Emma
twenty twenty three Young Farmer of the year, Tim, I'll
start with you on your west Auckland beef farm. You
want twenty twenty five to be the year of the farmer?
Speaker 8 (19:30):
Here you get a Jamie good to be here. I'm
fizziting mate for twenty twenty five. I think it's a
really exciting opportunity for US farmers to lead the economy
out of a very long and slow recession that we're witnessing.
And I just think that we've had a couple of
years of the negative duo of locomodity prices and high
(19:50):
interest rates and we're going to get the opposites of
the effects. So I think it's a really exciting year.
There's heaps of opportunity out there, and it's about making
sure that as a sector we're really capitaliz eyes on it.
So I'd like to see US farmers keep the pressure
in the acid on government officials to make sure that
they're being quite aggressive, I think with some of their
stances around policy on farming, to make sure that we
(20:11):
can sort of aim to unleash some of the potential
that we have. Prior to Christmas, I actually had a
conversation with Ian Proudfoot from KPMG and he thinks that
we're sitting on about another one hundred and fifty billion
dollars worth of export potential if we reach it. So yeah,
I'd love to see us work towards that and this
this is the year to start making some really really
(20:31):
strong in roads to it.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
I think we've.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
Already heard from Ray Smith, the Director General of MPI,
on the show Emma Paul and one thing that he
the idea that he's been floating, and I think Cameron
Bagrie has been as well, and that is the idea
of more dairy conversions. Because if we're going to double
exports in the next ten years, the dairy industry's going
to have to do some heavy lifting. How would that
(20:54):
go down on your province of the Wyhaddow?
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Good afternoon, Jane, And I'm not sure there's that much
to be converted left around the Ykit. There's mainly dairy
farms here. But what I would say on that note
is that we actually have a lot of a lot
of potential just to gain more from what we are
already doing. And if I put my vet hats on here, Jane,
I toured late last year with the Fonterra team, talking
(21:19):
to many vets about this, that the cost of animal
health and insidious disease on farm is actually costing us
in so many different ways in that there's a lot
of potential that we can get from our cows just
if we can get some of these animal health conditions
under control. And I hear on your show in the
ad breaks that beef and lamb is getting to grips
(21:40):
with facial XMA in the North Island, which is probably
not something you've dealt with a lot in the South Island,
but it is a huge issue up here and it
does cost us a lot of production. So why don't
we not just focus on expanding, but knuckle down and
focus on what we are doing and make sure that
we are doing it really well. And there's a few
other diseases the likes of BB and such floating around
(22:02):
that could also be eliminated and result in more production
from the same amount of cows, which ultimately would be
more efficient production too. If we talk in terms of
me saying too.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
Jamie, Okay, let's ask the pair of you how you
are faring individually on farm. Back to you, Tim, I'm
looking at my knee. We're drought index map as I
do every day, and your neck of the woods and
hims as well in the white catto looking dry you.
Speaker 8 (22:26):
We are trying to be fair, Jamie. We've just had
this relentless wind from the southwest which has finally started
to ease in the last week, but other parts of
Northham have had decent rain in the last fortnight. We
got sort of twenty five meals on the weekend, but
we need that fill up, raym But there still heaps
her rank sort of standing feed around, so kettle are
heavy enough, that's for sure.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
So beef farmer. Of course, record returns. You'll be laughing
all the way to the bank to now I wonder
you could afford to buy your mum the new cub
cadet right on Moa.
Speaker 8 (22:55):
She's riding around and that with a big grin on
her face, which is great. But yeah, the returns are fantastic, Jamie.
It's pretty amazing to see them hold for a summer
period like this. You know, Bill beef is still well
up over seven dollars ten a quilo, and we've got
prime going off next week that we should get seven
dollars for so it's holding store prices up as well.
But that's just indicated from a lack of supply really,
(23:18):
So I think we've had a couple of years where
carfuring numbers have been down and the flying effects of
that are coming through. But hopefully this is a bit
of a new normal, these higher commodity prices and farmers
can look to replenish some of the assets that they
haven't worked on over the last couple of years with
things been quite tight in the shemb sector.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
Well, Trump's tariffs aside, the US seems to have an
insatiable demand for our beef.
Speaker 8 (23:44):
Yeah, and I think they will long term as well, Jamie.
So that's our Trump card, I suppose for the teriff conversation.
But yep, and the low dollar, just like em Higgins
Missa mentioned yesterday, Jamie, that's going to be a relays
of our sleeve this year. So yeah, really looking forward
to a positive tour.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
On twenty five, Well, Emma Paul will go from Emma
to Emma Emma Paul ten dollars twenty five. ASB has
their milk forecast price at now, we're really starting to
cook with gas. If that was to come to pass, yeah,
it wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Let their record And I had a quick geeze over
the last decades payouts, and of those last ten years
of payouts, we've had fifty percent of them over seven
dollars in, fifty percent of them under, So it'd be
good to keep it up. Ten dollars would be an
absolute record payout, wouldn't it. So the dairy farmers would
be very happy with that.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Now is it tomorrow at the Helensville amp Showgrounds the
journey to July's FMG Young Farmer of the Year Grand
Final and then the cargol starts tomorrow? As I said,
at Allensville, that's your neck of the woods, Tommy, you're
going along. This is the Northern Regional final.
Speaker 8 (24:49):
Of course, yes, absolutely, Jamie will be there with bells on,
really looking forward to it. The weather's going to play
ball as well. The Convena, Zarnie Ferguson, has done an
awesome job and pulling together that volunteer network to make
these events run. So we'll be getting along and championing
the team and looking forward to finding our first grand finalists.
And there's some fantastic prizes up for grabs as well.
(25:10):
The winner's walking away with that Hondo one two five
motorbike as well as several other thousand dollars worth of prizes.
So yeah, it's really exciting to get into it and
see the next generation of young farmers coming through.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
Yeah, we'll talk to Radar on Monday show and tell
you who won that one. Hey, Emma, just to finish
on you, Ma, Paul, you were the first female Young
Farmer of the Year and twenty twenty three you broke
the grass ceiling. Interestingly, tomorrow at the Helens val A
and p Showgrounds, Kate Hawkins, who is a digger driver,
is going to be competing for the title against her
(25:45):
partner Daniel Richards. What a great story, What a.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Great story, and may she go well and I'm sure
it sounds like she's got lots of practical skills and
hopefully she does well in the exam and the likes
as well, because you've got to be well rounded to
do well in these things. But so exciting to see
more females out there, Jomie getting amongst such a great contest.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
Yeah, we're twenty five percent of the regional qualifiers are
now women. Fantastic. Okay, guys, thank you very much for
your time. We'll leave you, love you and leave you.
Speaker 8 (26:11):
Thanks Jamie, Jami.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Thanks Tom, Thanks Emma. Twenty two away from one, I'll
sum of your feedback. The chair of be and Zia's
ben zaid the worst most woke bank out there. I
think they are according to this text of the chair
of Bee and zas on the board of Genesis, who
are who are burning coal like crazy? How hypocritical? I
agree with you, Texter, if you're right. If you're wrong,
we both might get sued up. Next Rural News, Sports
(26:35):
News before the end of the hour, The Sharer that's
breeding self shedding sheep and Chris Brandolino from newa.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
It's not clinging to the Rocks and Ivy.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
Sa another former Grammy winner, Chris Stapleton here on the
Country as we Go Country on a Friday, just a
really good text coming interest texts. Sheep cost a lot
to run, too, says the Texter. The bloody high maintenance
and out of all the stock classes we run on
our station, being there for venison and velvet angus cattle
(27:12):
and dairy bullbeef, the sheep costs the most and are
by far the most work for the least or no return.
I think it's turning around, though. I think that the
future for sheep farming's gonna get better, couldn't get much
worse than it was last year. Here's Michelle with the
latest and rural.
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And there's a video up there of Rowena driving one
of those around. She did it at Tim Dangin's place.
She did.
Speaker 9 (28:05):
It's a great video. She's worth a watch, the great
acting and they're tot livelecting for rall.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
There maybe a future for her. But the interesting thing is,
and this sounds like the guy who bought the RAS
and then liked it so much he bought the company.
Tim drove around on the right on mo He liked
it that much. He bought one for mum, the cub
cadet right on Moha. So there you go, good Son,
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Speaker 4 (28:27):
Right.
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Here's sports news, Sport with AFCO.
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Speaker 5 (28:35):
Oh Dreary Sports News Bulletin. There's nothing really much happening.
They can't be So this is what I've got. Former
rugby league prop Steve Price has opened up on as
big as regret as the Warriors captain from five to nine.
The Australian wishes they could have offered and this is
fair enough too. I guess a better memorial to teammate
Sunny Fire's tragic drowning in January two thousand and nine.
(28:58):
Price says finishing four out of sixteenth team out of
sixteen teams during that campaign was a letdown given how
much Fire meant to them. He says, they didn't perform
to the standard they wanted to in order to have
a real crack for him. And that is your sports news.
Up next, a sharer, in fact, the champion sharer who's
going to breed some self shedding sheep. Now I can
(29:33):
promise you this song is not a finalist or a
previous winner of a Grammy or a Country Award at
the Grammys. This is new music to me. This is
DJ sash an Ecuador. It already wrecks of drugs, doesn't it.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Now.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
The reason we're playing it is because our next guest
on the country an old sharing made of mine, Quentin Whitehead.
I said I'll play some music, and he what was
your favorite sharing song? And I thought he'd go with
ac DC or something like that. But Quintin, No, DJ
sash and Ecuador. Did that do it for you?
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Well?
Speaker 5 (30:07):
I did.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
It was the best way to get the blood up
and get things pumping. So you hit that first sheep
with a bit of pace and you know that the
whole as quick as you could. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
What about your daughter, Megan, who's the world record holder?
What what does she like sharing too?
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Oh? She spathetic, She listens to all the old stuff. Yeah,
I'm really disappointed in her playlist.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Well I had to sleep.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
Oh well, I reckon a lot of your old sharing
mates will be really disappointed with you, Champion sharer. I
know you had a cracket. Did you ever get a
world record? I know you had to crack at them.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
No, I never actually cried for a world record with
South Well, just just the cost of it was just
too expensive for me. I was too too hungry, really,
I wanted a farm.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
So well you've got a farm now. And I'm saying
that your old sharing mates will be disappointed in you
because you're going to start breeding self shearing sheep. You're
going to do your daughter out of a job.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Well here, but that's not it's not my job to
the wall industry. It's there's plenty of people who have
been trying for years and they've failed. So yeah, it
just gets to the stage where I love well. I mean,
I'm a you know, we've got wall in our house,
so I wear west Ridge jerseys, you know, the best
jersey on the market. But if I'm going to keep
(31:17):
farming for much longer, I've got to cut my workload.
And if I get rid of the war, I get
rid of my workload. And I haven't made money at
a wall for at least eight ten years, so yeah,
we're going to lose money again this year.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
So yeah, I hope I'm not speaking out of turn now,
but and I guess it's public knowledge. It was a
public auction twenty four and a half thousand dollars was
paid for an ex Lana Wiltshire cross ram and I
think it was Hamershbowski, who is a reasonably high profile
farmer in himself. There, big region farmer. He's gone and
boots and all.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Yeah, yeah, there's I mean, there's quite a few people.
I mean, it's just it's just dollars and cents really,
you know, like you, they're sheitting cheaper ethically, are getting
better and better. They started from a fairly low base, granted,
but there's some really savvy people now breeding these shedding
cheap and bringing in a lot of different breeds, a
lot of different semen from overseas, and the heading in
(32:14):
the right direction. I reckon. You know, I've just weighed
up lands this morning and you could tell the lambs
that were shedding the most, they were always the heaviest
across the scales and they yield really really well.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
What about going for the sheep that have no wool
at all? I think Derek Daniel's breading them. Why rarely
call some of the nudies they've only got a week
fine that a hair like a goat or something like that.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Yeah, there was noody crosses at that auction as well,
the one that I brought. He's fifty percent explana and
only twenty five percent Wiltshire and twenty five percent of
the white. So you know, the Izzie white, I think
has probably got something to offer. It's got into muscular
fat like the wagyu beef. And yeah, I mean we
(32:58):
had one of our best lambings ever the year and
we had some atrocious weather, so you know, they've got survivability,
they've got vigor, they've got good growth rates and very
high yielding. They yield higher than anything that I've found before.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
So are you going to did you buy the ram
just for your own breeding purposes? So are you going
to set up a stud? No?
Speaker 4 (33:18):
No, not set up a stud myself, but no, I
just really get into genetics, and I think it's money
well spent to I'm not seven and a half thousand dollars,
but when you think about you know what he's going
to give me. And as I said before, you know,
the genetics aren't probably quite as good as they could
(33:39):
be in the future. So you really have to target
those really good rams to get there as fast as
you can, because, let's face it, on coming up sixty
one now, so I haven't got that much longer. I
need to get there in a hurry.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Sees, you're an old biger. You give me on the
pension shortly, Hey, Quentin, it'll be gone by the time
you get there. Hey, just very quickly. What's me up
to this year? Any world record attempts?
Speaker 4 (34:02):
No, not this year. No, she's going to have a
year off. She's just trying to change a pat and
the weaver get her first time in league a little
bit better. And yeah, she's after a fairly hefty sort
of target, so we need to get it right. We
don't need to be failing on record attempts. So yep,
she'll do her best and we'll do our best and
we'll probably give it a cracker a year after next.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Got on you, Quentin. Always good to catch up again.
There we go, Quentin Whitehead and a bit of Ecuador
from DJ Sash. Okay, we're going to wrap it with
Chris Brandolena if I can track them down from Neeway.
But just before I forget. Every year fifteen thousand farmers
boost their well being thanks to farm Strong. They do
a great job. What's the one thing that you could
(34:43):
change to make farming a little easier on mind and body.
For me, it would be not playing DJ sash. To
see what other farmers are doing, head to the farm
strong website this weekend farmstrong dot co dot and said,
I've got the tools and resources on how to help
navigate the ups and downs of farming and stay in
a good head space. We along with obviously farmstrong and
(35:07):
to catch you next week, but not before we catch
up with Chrisprain Deleno. Okay, let's wrap the country with
Chris Brandalino from newa He hasn't heard of GJ DJ
(35:27):
sash in Ecuador either, Chris, three minutes to go. Is
it going to rain in the dry parts?
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Yeah, We're going to get some rain in the western
part of the North Island, so central and western North
Island tomorrow on Saturday. There will be some showers and thunderstorms,
so that will help, but it's not going to be
enough otherwise. I think some of the big headlines for
the upcoming next several days it's going to be warmth.
Much of the Upper North Island, the Wakato north wind
Auckland are going to see temperatures anywhere from the upper
(35:56):
twenties to near maybe just above thirty, particularly as we
work away through Sunday and Monday, we could see some
really warm temperatures and with that there will be a
bit of humidity, so some juice to the air. So yeah,
a warm weekend coming up. In terms of rain or
meaningful rain, as you say, in the places that could
really use it. Unfortunately, we're not looking at anything extensive.
(36:17):
It's going to be pretty much a dry first week
to maybe eight nine days of the month, Jamie. We
just issued our long range outlook or updated seasonal Klimben
out look. It was a chili January, no doubt about
it for a good chunk of the country. Look, it's
going to be a warmer February for sure. I know
that's not hard to say given how cool it was,
but certainly a warmer Lean. It'll be a dry start,
(36:40):
but we think much of the country will have either
near or above normal rainfall, so it's a spectrum near
to above normal in that and between those two end points.
Got to watch the end of white tonguey weekend, Jamie,
because the tropics are going to become more active and
there are indications we could see tropical cyclone and a
lot the Watts how that behaves because whenever the tropics
(37:03):
get more active, that means our awareness should increase, and
it should because it could move south.
Speaker 5 (37:09):
Okay, so there we go, Chris Brandolena, thank you very
much for your time. You have a good weekend. And
I know as a Native American not on the Native
American born in America, where we share our sympathies with
you over what happened in Washington. Absolutely tragic, tragic. Yeah,
I walked across the Potomac River not more than three
(37:31):
months ago and to think just down from the bridge
I walked across that happened. It is terrible. There you go.
You got to take your opportunity's life and be fleeting
Chris Brandolino there from newah you could go to the
farm Strong playlist. I don't think Ecuador and DJ Sash
is on the farm Strong playlist, but go and try
(37:53):
that one out on iHeartRadio. We will catch you back
on Monday. Have a great weekend.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
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