March 6, 2025 • 38 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Peter Walsh, Emma Poole, Shane McManaway, Dr John Roche, and Chris Brandolino.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's The Country
Podcast with Jamie McKay thanks to Brents, the starkest of
the leading agriculture brands.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Good oh, good afternoon, New Zealand. This is the Country.
It's brought to you by Branton, Jamie McKay. That's Aretha
Franklin and respect Ri spce e T. Could I get
that right? It's International Women's Day tomorrow very shortly. We're
going to be catching up with a woman who broke
the grass ceiling a couple of years ago when she
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won the Young Farmer of the Year Grand Final Lamberpool.
But talking about respect, we're going to kick it off
with a guy who certainly earned respect. Sixty years in
the Stockham station industry. Peter Walsh, father of Tom, amongst
other achievements in his life, a member of the nineteen
seventy four Ranfilly Shield winning South Canterbury rugby side. Shane mcmanaway,
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wara rapper farmer, founder of the Xander MacDonald Awards, former
chief executive of All Flex. He's in the eye of
the storm quite literally, over on the Gold Coast surface
Paradise broad Beach to be more exact, where they were
going to have the Impact Summit next week but it's
been cancered. Will go and update what's happening in Australia.
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This cyclone, tropical Cyclone Alfred not good at all. Doctor
John Roach is on the ground in Wanaka, day one
of the Upper Cluther Amp Show and Chris Brandolino the
Dry continues what a new was saying about the long
term forecast, all that on the country today, all the
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big guns athletic guns that are going to be in
Dunedin this weekend or are here already for the New
Zealand Athletics Champs A you name it, Hamish Kerr. Gold
medalists at Paris are Zoe Hobbes, our greatest female sprinter,
Tom Walsh up against Jack O'Gill and the shot pot.
Many many more to talk about, but I thought i'd
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make the farming connection. Of course, Zoe Hobbes's father Grant
as a stock agent. Tom Walsh's dad, Peter Walsh, is
a bit of a legendary stock agent. If you don't
mind me saying so, Peter, You're going to retire on
the first of April, after wait for it, sixty years
in the business. Good afternoon, yeah, and I only know
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half of it, but still a bit more to learn.
You know, spring chicken. If you've been in the business
for sixty years, But tell me how you got into
being a stock agent and tell me about your exit.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Well what, I went to Saint Bete and christ here
when I came home, and I lived on the West coast,
a place called Croninden. And when I got back there,
I started scrub cutting. And my father thought that the
last four years I've been spent all this money to
educate me to become a scrub cutter. So he got
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me an interview with Pineal Guinness Limited, John Hamilton, and
we had an interviewer and I got a job at
Pinegal Guinness on the way to New Zealand Athletic Championships
down and deneed So and when I got back I
fairly had that employed me. So basically I became part
of the part of the Pinel Guinness team.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
You know, So were you were.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
You a shot put her back in the day Peter
like tom Oh, I.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Was, yeah, nothing. I always tell him I was a
bit better than him. But of course he look up
the records. He's considerably bill them and I was, but
I did win a New Zealand junior title. I think
overcame Theater third one time in the senior the those
of the days of you know, Robin Taiton and they
sort of people, and I said, anyway, that was that
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was just part of then I went on to play
rugby rather than athletics.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Well, yeah, if you were a good rugby player back
in those days, the stock firms would normally lap you up.
And you were a good rugby player too, Peter Walsh,
because you were in that famous nineteen seventy four South
Canterbury side that beat Marlborough for the shield. And I
know you had your big fifty three union last year.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
That's right, yep. No, that was just incredible really too,
to be part of that and the rugby history of
South Canoby. Of course the second time we'd won the shield,
but the time we defended it against norther a target
only just and of course Wellington came along and two
or three days later and took it away from us.
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But that was a special time and special memories of course,
you know in those days again for the shield really
was the big thing in Marlboro was a terrific side.
They took it off Cannaby, which was no mean effort.
They had famous players. They have Marthel's of course in
the Joseph and that Jimmy Joseph. I marked that Jimmy
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Josh and he he was Mary all black and he
should have been in all black. But he was a
great Marlborough marlbur Man of.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Course, the father of Jamie Joseph. There was a guy
forward on the wing for Marlboro who was quite useful
as well. Hey, and of course he scored the try
and get to take the shield off Canterbury. Talk to
me about sixty years in the stock and station industry,
Peter Walsh.
Speaker 6 (05:53):
The changes, Oh well, it was in changes like an
all indecision that modern ized what modernization and that sort
of thing. So but recently, of course, over the last
five or ten years has been technology and the younger.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Generation coming through. They are really using the technology and
you've got to be and that leaves a few of
us old chaps behind, you know. But there again, information
availability now is everything. And you know, some very good
young farmers out there, and even though they might have
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as many sheep as what the old time has had,
their landing percentages and weights are significantly better than their
past is significantly better. So thereforts were producing as much
lan there, there's quite a less numbers of stock, so
that it's down to the farmers themselves producing the goods.
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It's an exciting game and it's it's a bat oh
of the country.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
As we know, Peter, the greatest invention for stock agents
must have been the mobile phone.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Yeah, that was terrific, terrific when we had those things.
That adding a car, so they you knock a donkey
yet whether you did them on the air with it.
But these ones in there, of course a two prong thing,
aren't they If you use them for the right reasons,
they are good. But you see a lot of people
walking around in a trance talking on the phone, and
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I don't and you don't realize how much time they
do take. And you're accessible, of course, and farmers have
got them up the top of the hills are where,
and that they can bring you and find out something
about markets or prices or whatever while they're walking along
mustering and thinking. So now it's technology is a big
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thing and farming practices have improved, no end.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Okay, you started on the first of April nineteen sixty five.
You're going to finish on the first of April twenty
twenty five, sixty years in the stock industry game. What
does retirement mean for you? You're going to be following, no doubt,
your kids, Tom with a shot putting, grandchildren, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yes, that's what'll be here. The grandkids are coming along,
and I've got a little fan myself, and of course
I can fam away here and fix fences and things
like that, and so I'll have enough to do. And
you get to my age, of course, and I think
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you've got to accept at that stage that the younger
generation's coming along and just move out of the way
and let them get cracking.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Are you going to make it down to Duneaton to
the Caledonian for the New Zealand Athletics Champs? Of course,
time up against Jacko girl. That's always been a good rivalry.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Ah, yes, that's been there for a long time, and
and Jacko's in pretty good form at the moment. Of course,
Tom won twelve or thirty in a round and then
Jacko started to win, So that'll be a rivalry and
the boat who it's great to see New zud with
two world class athletes in one event.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Absolutely fantastic. And to see Hamish Kerr an Olympic gold
medalist in a track event or a field event, should
I say, is absolutely wonderful. I know Tom's got a
couple of bronzes, but that is magnificent, isn't it. Peter Walsh, Hey,
thanks for your time. You've been a wonderful contributor to
the stock and station industry. You're a legend, especially from
that nineteen seventy four South Caniburry rugby team. Enjoy retirement.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
There's no ever that. Thank you very much for the
opportunity to have a jack.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Thank you, Peter, the pleasure was all mine. You're with
the country. It's seventeen after twelve. Music Today chosen by
Michelle and Jane Ferguson, our online editor Women's Songs, International
Day of Women, International Women's Day. Should I say tomorrow
We're going to do ab but for today, because is
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she the most famous woman an egg at the moment?
Perhaps she is. Emma Pool's up next twenty twenty three
Young farmer of their Shane mcmanaway's in the eye of
the storm and this is tropical cyclone Alfred Over on
the Gold Coast. Doctor John Roache on the ground. We're
hearing a beautiful day in Wonica for day one of
the Wonica Show and Chris Brandolino Negles come out with
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a long range forecast. Is there any rain in it?
We'll find out before the end of the hour.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Some bars is that.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
The look of a down?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Some bar jump up? It is International Women's Day tomorrow,
and this is the most famous woman I know in agriculture,
or at least I think she is. She broke the grass
ceiling in twenty twenty three when she beat a male
dominated field to become the FMG Young Farmer of the Year.
Emma Paul joins us and Emma International Women's Day. What
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are you doing to celebrate it?
Speaker 7 (11:08):
Oh, I'm just celebrating being the Thanks Jamie, and it's
a pleasure to be here. I don't know about the
most famous woman you know, but yeah, we suddenly had
a few chats over the past couple of years since
the contest wins. So it's it's nice to be here
and nice to be thinking of the women that are
out on farms and doing their thing in agriculture. I
think we often talk about the importance of getting females
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an egg, but we don't actually talk about why it's
so important, Jamie. And if we open that conversation up,
it's because, you know, having a diverse set of skills
and your farm teams really really important, especially when it
comes to running a farming business. There's so many elements
you need as a farmer, so having females in there
just helps diversify that skillthy and gets extra jobs done
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in better ways.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Unfortunately for us bloke summer women are better at multitasking
than men.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Totally, totally.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
Multitasking is just a tip of it, Jamie. If we
think of a woman actually more nurturing in nature, aren't
they because they get up to raise children and do
that sort of thing. That This is a broad generalization,
of course. So if we think of jobs like car
firing on farm, the best car forreers of even known
are always woman and it's because they, you know, they
really care. That there are men that care out there
as well, Jamie. But the woman certainly do a fantastic
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job in the likes of those roles and many others
on farm.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, but you can't read a map.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
I can read a map.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I'm sure you can. You're a very bright woman, right,
I guess from the Young Farmer competition and we've got
East Coast the regional final on this weekend. The fact
that twenty five percent of the finalists or entrance female
is great. Do you think we'll get to fifty to fifty?
Speaker 7 (12:46):
Hard to know, Jamie, but it's we're certainly moving in
the right direction, aren't we. And it's sort of at
the moment representative of how many females are working in
the agricultural sector. That's about on path. So to get
to fifty to fifty to see a shift in who
we're employing on farms and the likes shift of fifty
to fifty as well.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
I'd think.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
So there's a lot of work to be done there
in agriculture and it'd be good to have some more
woman coming forward into the sector. It's like I say,
it adds at diversity to the skill set.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Not only are you the twenty twenty three Young Farmer
of the Year, you're a dairy farmer with your husband Chris,
you're also a vet. How bad is it getting in
the White Caddow where you're based weatherwise with the.
Speaker 7 (13:27):
Dry it is very, very dry Jamien. There's dairy farmers
in the region talking about drying off, which you know,
we've only just hit March, so there's a long way
to go in terms of production. But luckily, you know,
the payout is up this year and the price of
the likes of palm kernel isn't too bad, so the
return you get on putting supplement in this year is
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the worthwhile.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
Of course, people are.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
Worried about doing pastoral damage and pulling plants out of
the ground and the likes with overgrazing, so there's going
to be a fair amount of underswing come this order.
I'd say to pack up the losses of what's even
with this drought.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Is facial XMA an issue this season.
Speaker 7 (14:07):
It has been. It's always an issue, Jamie, and it
should be top of mind for all farmers in the
North Island. And we were just talking up here. We
had a drizzle of rain last week and that's really
dangerous city for farmers out there because that will just
make the spores go boom. The counts have actually been
sort of at a moderate level that I've seen them
a lot higher in the past, and that's probably because
the heat has been so extreme and there's been such
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a lack of moisture. But you know this, March April
are real danger months for facial x ME and people
often button off, so it's really important to keep that
think going into the cows while they can.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
We know that when farmers are faced with climate extremes,
the best reaction to have is a quick one. So
if you're arming and ring about, for instance, drying off early,
you're better to dry off, aren't you possibly?
Speaker 7 (14:52):
Yep, and I guess in light of Fontira is a
recent announcement, you've got a way up where they are
not bringing in imported feed to your farmer's worth it
for your system.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
Of course, you.
Speaker 7 (15:02):
Won't be paid for that at a premium this season,
so it's probably a good time to just feed your cows,
make sure they're in good condition, protect your pastes where
you can, and get some more production under your belt.
It's always a good thing to have milk in the vet, Jamie.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
As a mathematical equation, even if you had to buy
in nearly all the feed on your farm, does it
make mathematical or financial sense to chuck it in one
end of the cow and get milk out the other
end of ten dollars.
Speaker 7 (15:29):
Yes, Jamie, yep, this season, it absolutely does. And we
are autumn carving at the moment, so our autumn girls
are going to be on almost a total mixed ration
for the next two months until we see our grass
come away. And for us, it makes sense to keep
feeding them and to look after those animals so that
we can get that production later in the season.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Well, I hope you get some rain in the wye Atoma, Paul.
Thanks for coming on today. It is International Women's Day
tomorrow and we all need to salute the better half,
those that wear the pants and the relationship.
Speaker 7 (15:58):
Yes, thanks for that, Jamie. And I'll reminding Chris of it.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Good you lovely to chat Bybyeie, Thank you, Emma. Isn't
she wonderful? Right? International Woman's Day tomorrow, Michelle, and you'll
you'll be because you're an athletics nut. You'll be down
at the Caledonian watching Tom Walsh, Jack o'girl, Hamish Kerr,
Zoey Hobbs. What's the name of the woman who won
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the silver and the shot pot? Maybe Visa?
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Is it that?
Speaker 8 (16:30):
Welch? It's a South Africa name.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, I need to she's there as well. Santana Tory,
Tory Peters now Tory Morby of course, a good Southland
girl and the javelin Zoey Hobbs, Eliza McCartney and Olivia
McTaggart and the pole vote. And I think, and I
don't you need to find out when this race is
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because I might have to sprint from the golf course
to see it. Sam Tanner up against Sam Ruth. That's
the fifteen year old kid in the fifteen hundred meters.
How good will that be?
Speaker 8 (17:03):
I'm going to be super excited. It's going to be
a great day of athletics.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
You might want to get a wee bit closer to
your microphone there, Okay, So looking forward to that one.
And just for International Women's Day, I know we need
to celebrate it and we do, but just spare a
thought for some women, thoughts and prayers, Thoughts and prayers
for Mary Rooks, You're a saint. Up next, Shane mcmanaway
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on the Gold Coast tropical cyclone Alfred is he's staring
into the eye of the storm quite literally. We're going
to go there next. Welcome back to the country. Coming
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up to twelve thirty. Well, it's all on in Australia
at the moment, as tropical Cyclone Alfred bears down on
well eastern Queensland and of course eastern New South Wales.
A man literally in the eye of the storm is
why are Rappi Farmer or the bloke behind the Zander
McDonald Awards Shane mcmanaway. Shane, you're at broad Beach, just
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down from surface Paradise. You quite literally are in the
eye of the storm.
Speaker 9 (18:29):
Yeah, good afternoon, Jamie.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
We are.
Speaker 9 (18:31):
We've got a place just down on the beach at
broad Beach, and literally we're about seventy meters from our
place to the sea. So just as I talk to
you now, I'm just looking out to the sea as
they're saying that there's some fifteen meter to twenty meter
waves rolling and aspar as you can see out to
the back, right out probably kilometer kilometer and a half,
there's this mountains of walls of water, building and building
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and building and just taking the beach away. Jamie's unbelievable.
People that have lived here all their lives have never
seen anything like it.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Shane. If you're only seventy meters from the waterfront and
the waves of fifteen or twenty meters high. The mats
don't work out very well on that one. Could you
get inundated?
Speaker 9 (19:13):
Well, we're hoping not. They say that at high tide
tomorrow morning, at three o'clock there will be the water
will be about a meter and higher than it normally
ever is. And I think we're okay, we're sort of
up a little bit but elevated along the beach front here.
But you know, all these houses are built on sand,
and these storm surges that build and come, and you know,
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they're very, very unpredictable. So look, we we could be,
but you know, our first and foremost interest is in
looking after ourselves, as it is for everybody here. The
emergency services are doing a fantastic job. They've told everybody
just to stay inside, keep off the roads, and hunker
down and keep yourself safe. So that's what we're focused on.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Some of the potential rainfall numbers are eye watering. In fact,
they're just straight up out frightening. Five hundred to eight
hundred and thirty mills forecast.
Speaker 9 (20:06):
Yeah, and Jamie, the thing hasn't really sort of hit yet,
to be quite honest, And last night we got one
hundred and forty milks overnight and it's just steady rain here.
It can certainly certainly rain when it does. It's out
of the coast here, about one hundred and sixty kilometers
off the coast at the moment, and it's intensifying.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
That just watched.
Speaker 9 (20:25):
The latest reports here. The thing is intensifying and the
clouds are getting higher. Through the satellite image as they
can see, the clouds are getting higher and high, which
basically lowest the sea tip of the pressure, and that
increases the amount of moisture that are dragging back up
the into it, and that's where it becomes tropical cyclone.
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I think it's starting to build. So yeah, and the
winds are saying the winds will be tonight and tomorrow
around about one hundred and sixty five kilometers an hour.
So you know, it's it's on for young and hole
here and incredibly credibly frightening to be quite on because
you're just not quite sure what's going to happen next.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, apocalypse. Well, I don't want to paint too grimmer picture.
One of the reasons you're there is or was for
the twenty twenty five Xander McDonald Award Impact Summit. Now
that was due to start on Monday. I know a
lot of kiwis are flying over or we're going to
be flying over for that, but you've had to cancel that.
Speaker 9 (21:25):
Yeah, we've postponed it, Jamie. We'll go out and announced
that he winners on Tuesday, but we had to postpone it.
We were watching this very very closely, and you can
imagine putting on a conference of that size takes a
hell of a lot of work an organization, and so
we didn't make that call lightly, but just absolutely for
the safety of everybody. The airports are closed here by
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saying if the power goes down, that it'll be down
for as long as it's safe for the power people
to get back out and reinstate it, and that could
be days. So we had to make a call and
unfortunately we've had to postpone. We will go ahead at
some point, but that was the smartest thing to do
given the circumstances we find ourselves.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
And I went onto your website this morning, the conference website,
and this is irony because you're saying, or the key
statement is welcome to the twenty twenty five Xander McDonald
Award Impact Summer where innovation meets inspiration under the theme
Ride the Wave, Avoid the Rip.
Speaker 9 (22:23):
Yeah, we didn't know that quite we would quite have
this happening when we came up with that byeline, probably
about six months ago, Jamie. But I tell you what,
it couldn't be a truer statement. As we sit here today, amazing.
You know, they've still got professional surfers out. They tone
them out with jet ski's further up the beach to
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towing them right out the back. And these guys are
still continuing to surf in these seas. It looks like
completely not of madness to me. But I guess if
you know what you're doing so gay, but I think
on Land's a better spot to be.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Well. Good luck over there and the eye of the storm,
the tropical cyclone, Alfred. I hope it doesn't smash you
and we'll catch you maybe on Tuesday show. Will we
be naming the Xander McDonald Award winners then, yep.
Speaker 9 (23:07):
We will, Jamie. I look forward to being on the
show and announcing them with you then, so that'll be
a great moment.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Well, God speed, Shane mcmanaway, keep safe and Lynette as well.
Speaker 9 (23:19):
You yeah, and thank you, Jamie. Thanks for your concern.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
There we go, Wes. We're all very concerned about our
Elsie counterparts. We're going to take a break on the
other side of it. I don't know what Michelle's got
for Rural News, Balance, Farm Environment Awards. No, no, she's
shaking her head. That was last night in Canterbury kicking
those off. We will catch up with who's this by
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the way?
Speaker 8 (23:43):
This Joplin?
Speaker 2 (23:44):
All right, Janice Choplin.
Speaker 8 (23:47):
Woodstock, you know, take you back, take you back to
your young days.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
W oh no, no, I was even a bit young
for Woodstock. She's in the twenty seven club, of course.
So rural news and sports news next. Doctor John Roach
is our man on the ground at the Wanaka Show.
They got much better weather there, they tell me. It's
a stunning day in w Wonca. Today. For day one
of the Upper Cluthere and p Show, Chris Brandolino from
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NEEWA have come out with their long range forecast. We'll
see if we can dish up some rain for the
areas around the country that desperately need it. International Women's
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Day tomorrow. Michelle and Chain Online editor selecting the music.
But I did use a bit of executive authority here
and throw on a bit of Kate Bush, one of
my favorite female artists. Right now, poor old Shane and
his conference being postponed the Xander MacDonald Award Impact Summit Conference,
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but one that is going ahead certainly at this stage
is the New Zealand horticult Conference, happening twenty six to
twenty six and twenty seven August of this year. It's
a muster tend event for growers, industry leaders, policymakers, researchers.
You can share knowledge and drive the future of New
Zealand horticulture and what a great future it has got
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as well. This year's theme, I hope it's not like
Shane's theme, why ride the Wave, Avoid the Rip. The
theme for the Horticulture Conference is our people, produce and potential.
If you want to go to that Horticulture end zed
conference in August in Wellington, we've got a ticket or
a pass for two of you for two days. Head
to the country dot co dot enz being to win
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the tickets for two to the two day conference plus
the gala dinner. And the best bit is it doesn't
matter where you are in the country, we are going
to fly you there and accommodate you and feed and
water you at the Horticulture New Zealand and your conference
in Wellington and August He's Rural News What.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
The countries world use with cold Cadet. New Zealand's leading
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dot NZI for your local stockist.
Speaker 10 (26:08):
And last night in Canterbury, of course, was the Balance
Environment Farm Awards for the region. As you mentioned before, Jamie,
I've got some of the winners here. So I've Stuart
Neil Matt and Heidi Hart and we're widing and James
and Samara Wright were all winners last night at those
regional awards.
Speaker 8 (26:23):
Hopefully we'll get some of them on the show next week.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Was that it?
Speaker 8 (26:26):
That's it?
Speaker 7 (26:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Can you google what year woodstock happened? I think it
was like nineteen sixty sixty nine. I think it's sixty nine.
Bloody Powlly saying it texted and this is an old
Rugby maide of mine. I don't think being in your
twenties means you were too young for woodstock. Get off
the grass.
Speaker 8 (26:42):
I love it one well, No, no, that done well.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Look, I haven't got time to go through but the
perfect time to be born or to be a teenager
was in the sixties. I was a teenager in the seventies,
so I missed the boat there his sport.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Sport with AFCO Kiwi to the boat says nineteen o four.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
And I've got no idea wat's in sport because I
haven't even read it. I've been too busy. So let's
just have a look at those athletics champs that are
happening right here in New Zealand at the moment. I
think there's a cricket game on as well. The Black
Ferns are playing.
Speaker 8 (27:14):
Are they started? Teen thirtieth morning?
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Yeah, okay, we'll update that one for you. But you know,
Hamish Kerr, Tom Walsh, Jack o'gil, Zoey Hobbs, Eliza McCartney,
Olivia McTaggart, Tory Peters moreby these days, Maddie, what's mat?
How do I pronounce Maddie's name?
Speaker 8 (27:31):
Is it Vice?
Speaker 2 (27:32):
It might be Vice Silver at Paris, And of course
the two SAMs, Sam Tanner and Sam Ruth. Sam Tanner's
is a real character and Sam Ruth's fifteen years of age.
That's going to be a great fifteen hundred meter final.
Let me just see if I can dig up today's
sports news. Let's have a look. Is that today's or
(27:55):
is that yesterday's. I've got no idea. I know the
White Ferns a batting first and are struggling to score
against Sri Lanka in their second One day Cricket International
in Nelson a short time ago. The New Zealand women
not women, women plural. We're fifty nine to four off
eighteen overs, scoring it less than three and a half
(28:16):
runs and over and talking about cricket. How good is
Sunday night going to be? How many people are going
to be really tired and next to useless at work
on Monday?
Speaker 8 (28:27):
I think they might be us.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
That might be us. Go the black Caps up next.
Doctor John Roache on the ground for us at the
Wanaka Show. It is a beautiful day in Wanaka for
day one of the Upper Cluther Amp Show, the Wanaka Show.
(28:49):
There for us on the ground is the Chief Science
Advisor for MPI, doctor John Roach, who's standing looking at
the beautiful mountains arounding Wanaka. And John, it reminds you.
It reminds you of your home country, Ireland.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
It does two degree Jimmy, good afternoon everyone. Look it's
apart from the fact that sun is cracking the stones
and there's hardly a cloud in the sky. I could
be standing in Kilarney and looking at some of the
mountains at the moment. It is absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
I didn't realize Ireland had mountains as big as New
Zealand's there you go, mind you, I haven't been there
since two thousand and three. And the two things that
stick out for Ireland we will get on too. A
correct topic in a moment for me was the smoky
bars in two thousand and three. You hadn't been smoking
at that stage. And the size the size of your
cows and the smallness of your herds. But all that's changed,
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is it, John.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
Well, certainly the smoking and bars has changed. The bars
are still as good fun as they ever were, but
at least you can breathe and your clothes don't have
to go through a dry cleaner the next morning. Herds
are still smaller than they would be here in New Zealand.
Obviously it still sits within the EEU system, but they're
a lot bigger than they were when you were there, Jamie,
And yeah, the in the majority of farming systems. They
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have moved towards genetics very similar to what we have
here in New Zealand. So smaller cows, more crossbreads, a
lot more Jersey being used as well. So yeah, we've
learned a lot from New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
You're doing the field dy circuit at the moment. You
were in Northland last week, obviously Wonka today. I think
next week at Central Districts we've got Kurwey as well.
And then on to National field Days you're in the
Science for Farmers' site. Why should farmers come along and
see you at these field days?
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (30:36):
Look, I think that's all correct. I think if they've
got any questions they could come and see if Jamie.
What we've done here is, after setting up on farm Support,
I was asking farmers, you know, what value could we
add to them that their their current advisor couldn't or
that their current organizations couldn't. And overwhelmingly farmers told me
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they wouldn't have an idea who was a scientist in
New Zealand who was doing the science that was relevant
to them. And and so what we've done is we've
gathered the scientists together under one under one roof so
that they can come and they can come and ask
whoever questions they want. So we have we have egg
Research and Massy University. We have l I. C. Manachi Fenowell,
(31:18):
Lean Care Research, Agri zero and the New Zealand Agricultural
Greenhouse Gas Research Center here with us, as well as
my team on av ON Farm Support. And there's we're
not selling anything. All we're doing is answering questions. And uh,
you know, we've been we've been going out for a
couple of hours and the amount of people that are
coming through the door. I'm actually standing opposite now looking
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in and the number of people that are inside are
talking to the scientists. It's it's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
What sort of questions of the farmers asking you? Are
they asking, for instance, about greenhouse gas submissions or is
that that or are you appointing them to eggri zero inz.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
For that a mixture actually, So we've got an activation
board here that we talked with farmers about, which is
here's your here's your current farm, here's a number of
things that contribute to your greenhouse gas footprint, and just
have a chat about how we could do those things
better and lower that emission's intensity. And then if they're
interested in talking to us about you know, what's coming
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in the future of what's being invested in to reduce
meat in or nitros oxide, we take them through tager
zero and ends at age NRC. So that's certainly one
of the conversations. And in Dargaville last week, you know,
great conversations farmers, you know, farmers really interested and the
mood on the ground really good.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
You appointed the Chief Science Advisor for MPI in June
of twenty eighteen. Let's put you right on the hot
spot with both us. Is this one of the great
escape X of all time for New Zealand?
Speaker 5 (32:48):
I don't know, actually you really thought I wanted from
that perspective. By the time we had started this initiative,
you know, the team had got both us under control touchwood,
you know, and a long time since we had a
positive caisse and had to take my head off to
my colleagues and Bisecurity in New Zealand and all of
the people that work with us on that. But this
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is the the on Tramp support team. The idea for
it was born out of that. You know, we didn't
have a real strong regional presence at that time. You know,
the math advisors were privatized back in the late eighties
and so without that we weren't as able to work
with the regional teams and the people in the regions
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and so on tramp support. I've got ten teams around
the country. I've got nearly sixty people out there, and
you know, the only thing we want to do is help.
So whatever we can do to help, pick up the
phone and give us ring.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Yeah, and I'll give MPI a pat on the back
for the bird flow out bright here in Itaga as well. Well. Hand,
it's very important that you keep our borders secure, doctor
John roach A Chief Science Advisor or MPI. You enjoyed
the Wana kashow and enjoy the Jack Russell.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Rice, well do, thanks very much, Jeannie, yep.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
And it is a great day in Wonica. Day two tomorrow.
Obviously get along if you're in that neck of the ward.
Someone texts it and how do they get to the
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It closes Sunday, yep. It closes Sunday night and just
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to wrap the country next with Chris Brandolino from Knee Okay,
(35:14):
let's wrap the country with air Man at Newa Cris Brandolina.
We've covered the carnage that's about to happen in Australia
where they're going to get far too much wind and rain.
We need some rain, Cris Brandolina Brandolino. In this country,
I know that NIWA came out with your long range
forecast on Monday. What do you got for us?
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Yeah? Look, I think unfortunately for areas that could use
the rain, So we're talking in the western part of
the North Island and even the western part of the
South Island. Those are areas where dryness is a risk.
So we're saying normal or below normal rainfall somewhere between
those two kinds of endpoints rainfall for the season the
three month period on the other side of the divide
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for both violands, because we'll have more winds than usual
coming from the east to southeast or east to northeast,
we're expecting rainfall to be normal or above normal. Again,
anywhere in those two end points will fall in that spectrum.
So that's that's the three outlook, though, Jamie. The shorter
kind of medium term forecast is for just relentlessly dry weather,
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unfortunately woefully dry over the next week between now and
say next day when we talk again, There'll be many
areas in the North Island, Waycota, especially maybe parts of
the Bay of Plenty, parts of Tetanaki. If you're lucky,
you might get three or four millimeters of rain over
the next seven days. That's if you're lucky. Some places
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may get barely enough to tip the tip the bucket.
So it is going to be a really dry over
the next couple of weeks. I think mid to late March,
called the second half of March. We'll have to watch
for some opportunities of rain. I think the west of
the South Island is best in line to see some
meaningful range by say the third week of March or thereabouts,
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and that could be a good news for them because
the hydro catchments are getting quite low and that affects
electricity and obviously any farming going on on the west
coast of the South bind which there is many, but
there are some dairy farms and from the North Island,
though Jamie, uh boy, we may have to wait till
late in the month or early April to find any
significant rainfall. But as you know, it's not just one
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rainfall event when it's this dry. You need multiple rainfall events.
Just like look, man, if you're a million dollars in
the hole, if you win a ten thousand dollars scratchyet,
that's great, but you need a couple more of those.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
You know.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Okay, Well, I wish you could be the bearer of news.
So I'm glad, I mean, you'll be glad that we
don't shoot the messenger on the show, Crystal, you would
have gone weeks ago.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Oh look man, that would have been yeah, for sure.
You know people are waving at me, Jamie, but it's
only with one finger. I don't know what that is.
Usually when people wave, it should be five fingers.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Oh the life of a wave a man. It's a
twenty seven, twenty four saven job. Chris Brandolini there from
maywe you enjoy your weekend around the country even if
it doesn't rain. What catch up with some of the
athletics here in Duned And what a great weekend it's
going to be. You have a great weekend. Catch you
back Monday.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
Good oh, good afternoon, New Zealand. This is the Country.
It's brought to you by Branton, Jamie McKay. That's Aretha
Franklin and respect Ri spce e T. Could I get
that right? It's International Women's Day tomorrow very shortly. We're
going to be catching up with a woman who broke
the grass ceiling a couple of years ago when she
(00:51):
won the Young Farmer of the Year Grand Final Lamberpool.
But talking about respect, we're going to kick it off
with a guy who certainly earned respect. Sixty years in
the Stockham station industry. Peter Walsh, father of Tom, amongst
other achievements in his life, a member of the nineteen
seventy four Ranfilly Shield winning South Canterbury rugby side. Shane mcmanaway,
(01:17):
wara rapper farmer, founder of the Xander MacDonald Awards, former
chief executive of All Flex. He's in the eye of
the storm quite literally, over on the Gold Coast surface
Paradise broad Beach to be more exact, where they were
going to have the Impact Summit next week but it's
been cancered. Will go and update what's happening in Australia.
(01:40):
This cyclone, tropical Cyclone Alfred not good at all. Doctor
John Roach is on the ground in Wanaka, day one
of the Upper Cluther Amp Show and Chris Brandolino the
Dry continues what a new was saying about the long
term forecast, all that on the country today, all the
(02:18):
big guns athletic guns that are going to be in
Dunedin this weekend or are here already for the New
Zealand Athletics Champs A you name it, Hamish Kerr. Gold
medalists at Paris are Zoe Hobbes, our greatest female sprinter,
Tom Walsh up against Jack O'Gill and the shot pot.
Many many more to talk about, but I thought i'd
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make the farming connection. Of course, Zoe Hobbes's father Grant
as a stock agent. Tom Walsh's dad, Peter Walsh, is
a bit of a legendary stock agent. If you don't
mind me saying so, Peter, You're going to retire on
the first of April, after wait for it, sixty years
in the business. Good afternoon, yeah, and I only know
(03:01):
half of it, but still a bit more to learn.
You know, spring chicken. If you've been in the business
for sixty years, But tell me how you got into
being a stock agent and tell me about your exit.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Well what, I went to Saint Bete and christ here
when I came home, and I lived on the West coast,
a place called Croninden. And when I got back there,
I started scrub cutting. And my father thought that the
last four years I've been spent all this money to
educate me to become a scrub cutter. So he got
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me an interview with Pineal Guinness Limited, John Hamilton, and
we had an interviewer and I got a job at
Pinegal Guinness on the way to New Zealand Athletic Championships
down and deneed So and when I got back I
fairly had that employed me. So basically I became part
of the part of the Pinel Guinness team.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
You know, So were you were.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
You a shot put her back in the day Peter
like tom Oh, I.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Was, yeah, nothing. I always tell him I was a
bit better than him. But of course he look up
the records. He's considerably bill them and I was, but
I did win a New Zealand junior title. I think
overcame Theater third one time in the senior the those
of the days of you know, Robin Taiton and they
sort of people, and I said, anyway, that was that
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was just part of then I went on to play
rugby rather than athletics.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Well, yeah, if you were a good rugby player back
in those days, the stock firms would normally lap you up.
And you were a good rugby player too, Peter Walsh,
because you were in that famous nineteen seventy four South
Canterbury side that beat Marlborough for the shield. And I
know you had your big fifty three union last year.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
That's right, yep. No, that was just incredible really too,
to be part of that and the rugby history of
South Canoby. Of course the second time we'd won the shield,
but the time we defended it against norther a target
only just and of course Wellington came along and two
or three days later and took it away from us.
(05:09):
But that was a special time and special memories of course,
you know in those days again for the shield really
was the big thing in Marlboro was a terrific side.
They took it off Cannaby, which was no mean effort.
They had famous players. They have Marthel's of course in
the Joseph and that Jimmy Joseph. I marked that Jimmy
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Josh and he he was Mary all black and he
should have been in all black. But he was a
great Marlborough marlbur Man of.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Course, the father of Jamie Joseph. There was a guy
forward on the wing for Marlboro who was quite useful
as well. Hey, and of course he scored the try
and get to take the shield off Canterbury. Talk to
me about sixty years in the stock and station industry,
Peter Walsh.
Speaker 6 (05:53):
The changes, Oh well, it was in changes like an
all indecision that modern ized what modernization and that sort
of thing. So but recently, of course, over the last
five or ten years has been technology and the younger.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Generation coming through. They are really using the technology and
you've got to be and that leaves a few of
us old chaps behind, you know. But there again, information
availability now is everything. And you know, some very good
young farmers out there, and even though they might have
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as many sheep as what the old time has had,
their landing percentages and weights are significantly better than their
past is significantly better. So thereforts were producing as much
lan there, there's quite a less numbers of stock, so
that it's down to the farmers themselves producing the goods.
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It's an exciting game and it's it's a bat oh
of the country.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
As we know, Peter, the greatest invention for stock agents
must have been the mobile phone.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Yeah, that was terrific, terrific when we had those things.
That adding a car, so they you knock a donkey
yet whether you did them on the air with it.
But these ones in there, of course a two prong thing,
aren't they If you use them for the right reasons,
they are good. But you see a lot of people
walking around in a trance talking on the phone, and
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I don't and you don't realize how much time they
do take. And you're accessible, of course, and farmers have
got them up the top of the hills are where,
and that they can bring you and find out something
about markets or prices or whatever while they're walking along
mustering and thinking. So now it's technology is a big
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thing and farming practices have improved, no end.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Okay, you started on the first of April nineteen sixty five.
You're going to finish on the first of April twenty
twenty five, sixty years in the stock industry game. What
does retirement mean for you? You're going to be following, no doubt,
your kids, Tom with a shot putting, grandchildren, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yes, that's what'll be here. The grandkids are coming along,
and I've got a little fan myself, and of course
I can fam away here and fix fences and things
like that, and so I'll have enough to do. And
you get to my age, of course, and I think
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you've got to accept at that stage that the younger
generation's coming along and just move out of the way
and let them get cracking.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Are you going to make it down to Duneaton to
the Caledonian for the New Zealand Athletics Champs? Of course,
time up against Jacko girl. That's always been a good rivalry.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Ah, yes, that's been there for a long time, and
and Jacko's in pretty good form at the moment. Of course,
Tom won twelve or thirty in a round and then
Jacko started to win, So that'll be a rivalry and
the boat who it's great to see New zud with
two world class athletes in one event.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Absolutely fantastic. And to see Hamish Kerr an Olympic gold
medalist in a track event or a field event, should
I say, is absolutely wonderful. I know Tom's got a
couple of bronzes, but that is magnificent, isn't it. Peter Walsh, Hey,
thanks for your time. You've been a wonderful contributor to
the stock and station industry. You're a legend, especially from
that nineteen seventy four South Caniburry rugby team. Enjoy retirement.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
There's no ever that. Thank you very much for the
opportunity to have a jack.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Thank you, Peter, the pleasure was all mine. You're with
the country. It's seventeen after twelve. Music Today chosen by
Michelle and Jane Ferguson, our online editor Women's Songs, International
Day of Women, International Women's Day. Should I say tomorrow
We're going to do ab but for today, because is
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she the most famous woman an egg at the moment?
Perhaps she is. Emma Pool's up next twenty twenty three
Young farmer of their Shane mcmanaway's in the eye of
the storm and this is tropical cyclone Alfred Over on
the Gold Coast. Doctor John Roache on the ground. We're
hearing a beautiful day in Wonica for day one of
the Wonica Show and Chris Brandolino Negles come out with
(10:24):
a long range forecast. Is there any rain in it?
We'll find out before the end of the hour.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Some bars is that.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
The look of a down?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Some bar jump up? It is International Women's Day tomorrow,
and this is the most famous woman I know in agriculture,
or at least I think she is. She broke the grass
ceiling in twenty twenty three when she beat a male
dominated field to become the FMG Young Farmer of the Year.
Emma Paul joins us and Emma International Women's Day. What
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are you doing to celebrate it?
Speaker 7 (11:08):
Oh, I'm just celebrating being the Thanks Jamie, and it's
a pleasure to be here. I don't know about the
most famous woman you know, but yeah, we suddenly had
a few chats over the past couple of years since
the contest wins. So it's it's nice to be here
and nice to be thinking of the women that are
out on farms and doing their thing in agriculture. I
think we often talk about the importance of getting females
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an egg, but we don't actually talk about why it's
so important, Jamie. And if we open that conversation up,
it's because, you know, having a diverse set of skills
and your farm teams really really important, especially when it
comes to running a farming business. There's so many elements
you need as a farmer, so having females in there
just helps diversify that skillthy and gets extra jobs done
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in better ways.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Unfortunately for us bloke summer women are better at multitasking
than men.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Totally, totally.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
Multitasking is just a tip of it, Jamie. If we
think of a woman actually more nurturing in nature, aren't
they because they get up to raise children and do
that sort of thing. That This is a broad generalization,
of course. So if we think of jobs like car
firing on farm, the best car forreers of even known
are always woman and it's because they, you know, they
really care. That there are men that care out there
as well, Jamie. But the woman certainly do a fantastic
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job in the likes of those roles and many others
on farm.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, but you can't read a map.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
I can read a map.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I'm sure you can. You're a very bright woman, right,
I guess from the Young Farmer competition and we've got
East Coast the regional final on this weekend. The fact
that twenty five percent of the finalists or entrance female
is great. Do you think we'll get to fifty to fifty?
Speaker 7 (12:46):
Hard to know, Jamie, but it's we're certainly moving in
the right direction, aren't we. And it's sort of at
the moment representative of how many females are working in
the agricultural sector. That's about on path. So to get
to fifty to fifty to see a shift in who
we're employing on farms and the likes shift of fifty
to fifty as well.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
I'd think.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
So there's a lot of work to be done there
in agriculture and it'd be good to have some more
woman coming forward into the sector. It's like I say,
it adds at diversity to the skill set.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Not only are you the twenty twenty three Young Farmer
of the Year, you're a dairy farmer with your husband Chris,
you're also a vet. How bad is it getting in
the White Caddow where you're based weatherwise with the.
Speaker 7 (13:27):
Dry it is very, very dry Jamien. There's dairy farmers
in the region talking about drying off, which you know,
we've only just hit March, so there's a long way
to go in terms of production. But luckily, you know,
the payout is up this year and the price of
the likes of palm kernel isn't too bad, so the
return you get on putting supplement in this year is
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the worthwhile.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
Of course, people are.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
Worried about doing pastoral damage and pulling plants out of
the ground and the likes with overgrazing, so there's going
to be a fair amount of underswing come this order.
I'd say to pack up the losses of what's even
with this drought.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Is facial XMA an issue this season.
Speaker 7 (14:07):
It has been. It's always an issue, Jamie, and it
should be top of mind for all farmers in the
North Island. And we were just talking up here. We
had a drizzle of rain last week and that's really
dangerous city for farmers out there because that will just
make the spores go boom. The counts have actually been
sort of at a moderate level that I've seen them
a lot higher in the past, and that's probably because
the heat has been so extreme and there's been such
(14:29):
a lack of moisture. But you know this, March April
are real danger months for facial x ME and people
often button off, so it's really important to keep that
think going into the cows while they can.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
We know that when farmers are faced with climate extremes,
the best reaction to have is a quick one. So
if you're arming and ring about, for instance, drying off early,
you're better to dry off, aren't you possibly?
Speaker 7 (14:52):
Yep, and I guess in light of Fontira is a
recent announcement, you've got a way up where they are
not bringing in imported feed to your farmer's worth it
for your system.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
Of course, you.
Speaker 7 (15:02):
Won't be paid for that at a premium this season,
so it's probably a good time to just feed your cows,
make sure they're in good condition, protect your pastes where
you can, and get some more production under your belt.
It's always a good thing to have milk in the vet, Jamie.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
As a mathematical equation, even if you had to buy
in nearly all the feed on your farm, does it
make mathematical or financial sense to chuck it in one
end of the cow and get milk out the other
end of ten dollars.
Speaker 7 (15:29):
Yes, Jamie, yep, this season, it absolutely does. And we
are autumn carving at the moment, so our autumn girls
are going to be on almost a total mixed ration
for the next two months until we see our grass
come away. And for us, it makes sense to keep
feeding them and to look after those animals so that
we can get that production later in the season.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Well, I hope you get some rain in the wye Atoma, Paul.
Thanks for coming on today. It is International Women's Day
tomorrow and we all need to salute the better half,
those that wear the pants and the relationship.
Speaker 7 (15:58):
Yes, thanks for that, Jamie. And I'll reminding Chris of it.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Good you lovely to chat Bybyeie, Thank you, Emma. Isn't
she wonderful? Right? International Woman's Day tomorrow, Michelle, and you'll
you'll be because you're an athletics nut. You'll be down
at the Caledonian watching Tom Walsh, Jack o'girl, Hamish Kerr,
Zoey Hobbs. What's the name of the woman who won
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the silver and the shot pot? Maybe Visa?
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Is it that?
Speaker 8 (16:30):
Welch? It's a South Africa name.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, I need to she's there as well. Santana Tory,
Tory Peters now Tory Morby of course, a good Southland
girl and the javelin Zoey Hobbs, Eliza McCartney and Olivia
McTaggart and the pole vote. And I think, and I
don't you need to find out when this race is
(16:53):
because I might have to sprint from the golf course
to see it. Sam Tanner up against Sam Ruth. That's
the fifteen year old kid in the fifteen hundred meters.
How good will that be?
Speaker 8 (17:03):
I'm going to be super excited. It's going to be
a great day of athletics.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
You might want to get a wee bit closer to
your microphone there, Okay, So looking forward to that one.
And just for International Women's Day, I know we need
to celebrate it and we do, but just spare a
thought for some women, thoughts and prayers, Thoughts and prayers
for Mary Rooks, You're a saint. Up next, Shane mcmanaway
(17:28):
on the Gold Coast tropical cyclone Alfred is he's staring
into the eye of the storm quite literally. We're going
to go there next. Welcome back to the country. Coming
(18:00):
up to twelve thirty. Well, it's all on in Australia
at the moment, as tropical Cyclone Alfred bears down on
well eastern Queensland and of course eastern New South Wales.
A man literally in the eye of the storm is
why are Rappi Farmer or the bloke behind the Zander
McDonald Awards Shane mcmanaway. Shane, you're at broad Beach, just
(18:23):
down from surface Paradise. You quite literally are in the
eye of the storm.
Speaker 9 (18:29):
Yeah, good afternoon, Jamie.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
We are.
Speaker 9 (18:31):
We've got a place just down on the beach at
broad Beach, and literally we're about seventy meters from our
place to the sea. So just as I talk to
you now, I'm just looking out to the sea as
they're saying that there's some fifteen meter to twenty meter
waves rolling and aspar as you can see out to
the back, right out probably kilometer kilometer and a half,
there's this mountains of walls of water, building and building
(18:54):
and building and just taking the beach away. Jamie's unbelievable.
People that have lived here all their lives have never
seen anything like it.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Shane. If you're only seventy meters from the waterfront and
the waves of fifteen or twenty meters high. The mats
don't work out very well on that one. Could you
get inundated?
Speaker 9 (19:13):
Well, we're hoping not. They say that at high tide
tomorrow morning, at three o'clock there will be the water
will be about a meter and higher than it normally
ever is. And I think we're okay, we're sort of
up a little bit but elevated along the beach front here.
But you know, all these houses are built on sand,
and these storm surges that build and come, and you know,
(19:35):
they're very, very unpredictable. So look, we we could be,
but you know, our first and foremost interest is in
looking after ourselves, as it is for everybody here. The
emergency services are doing a fantastic job. They've told everybody
just to stay inside, keep off the roads, and hunker
down and keep yourself safe. So that's what we're focused on.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Some of the potential rainfall numbers are eye watering. In fact,
they're just straight up out frightening. Five hundred to eight
hundred and thirty mills forecast.
Speaker 9 (20:06):
Yeah, and Jamie, the thing hasn't really sort of hit yet,
to be quite honest, And last night we got one
hundred and forty milks overnight and it's just steady rain here.
It can certainly certainly rain when it does. It's out
of the coast here, about one hundred and sixty kilometers
off the coast at the moment, and it's intensifying.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
That just watched.
Speaker 9 (20:25):
The latest reports here. The thing is intensifying and the
clouds are getting higher. Through the satellite image as they
can see, the clouds are getting higher and high, which
basically lowest the sea tip of the pressure, and that
increases the amount of moisture that are dragging back up
the into it, and that's where it becomes tropical cyclone.
(20:46):
I think it's starting to build. So yeah, and the
winds are saying the winds will be tonight and tomorrow
around about one hundred and sixty five kilometers an hour.
So you know, it's it's on for young and hole
here and incredibly credibly frightening to be quite on because
you're just not quite sure what's going to happen next.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, apocalypse. Well, I don't want to paint too grimmer picture.
One of the reasons you're there is or was for
the twenty twenty five Xander McDonald Award Impact Summit. Now
that was due to start on Monday. I know a
lot of kiwis are flying over or we're going to
be flying over for that, but you've had to cancel that.
Speaker 9 (21:25):
Yeah, we've postponed it, Jamie. We'll go out and announced
that he winners on Tuesday, but we had to postpone it.
We were watching this very very closely, and you can
imagine putting on a conference of that size takes a
hell of a lot of work an organization, and so
we didn't make that call lightly, but just absolutely for
the safety of everybody. The airports are closed here by
(21:46):
saying if the power goes down, that it'll be down
for as long as it's safe for the power people
to get back out and reinstate it, and that could
be days. So we had to make a call and
unfortunately we've had to postpone. We will go ahead at
some point, but that was the smartest thing to do
given the circumstances we find ourselves.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
And I went onto your website this morning, the conference website,
and this is irony because you're saying, or the key
statement is welcome to the twenty twenty five Xander McDonald
Award Impact Summer where innovation meets inspiration under the theme
Ride the Wave, Avoid the Rip.
Speaker 9 (22:23):
Yeah, we didn't know that quite we would quite have
this happening when we came up with that byeline, probably
about six months ago, Jamie. But I tell you what,
it couldn't be a truer statement. As we sit here today, amazing.
You know, they've still got professional surfers out. They tone
them out with jet ski's further up the beach to
(22:43):
towing them right out the back. And these guys are
still continuing to surf in these seas. It looks like
completely not of madness to me. But I guess if
you know what you're doing so gay, but I think
on Land's a better spot to be.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Well. Good luck over there and the eye of the storm,
the tropical cyclone, Alfred. I hope it doesn't smash you
and we'll catch you maybe on Tuesday show. Will we
be naming the Xander McDonald Award winners then, yep.
Speaker 9 (23:07):
We will, Jamie. I look forward to being on the
show and announcing them with you then, so that'll be
a great moment.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Well, God speed, Shane mcmanaway, keep safe and Lynette as well.
Speaker 9 (23:19):
You yeah, and thank you, Jamie. Thanks for your concern.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
There we go, Wes. We're all very concerned about our
Elsie counterparts. We're going to take a break on the
other side of it. I don't know what Michelle's got
for Rural News, Balance, Farm Environment Awards. No, no, she's
shaking her head. That was last night in Canterbury kicking
those off. We will catch up with who's this by
(23:42):
the way?
Speaker 8 (23:43):
This Joplin?
Speaker 2 (23:44):
All right, Janice Choplin.
Speaker 8 (23:47):
Woodstock, you know, take you back, take you back to
your young days.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
W oh no, no, I was even a bit young
for Woodstock. She's in the twenty seven club, of course.
So rural news and sports news next. Doctor John Roach
is our man on the ground at the Wanaka Show.
They got much better weather there, they tell me. It's
a stunning day in w Wonca. Today. For day one
of the Upper Cluthere and p Show, Chris Brandolino from
(24:11):
NEEWA have come out with their long range forecast. We'll
see if we can dish up some rain for the
areas around the country that desperately need it. International Women's
(24:34):
Day tomorrow. Michelle and Chain Online editor selecting the music.
But I did use a bit of executive authority here
and throw on a bit of Kate Bush, one of
my favorite female artists. Right now, poor old Shane and
his conference being postponed the Xander MacDonald Award Impact Summit Conference,
(24:55):
but one that is going ahead certainly at this stage
is the New Zealand horticult Conference, happening twenty six to
twenty six and twenty seven August of this year. It's
a muster tend event for growers, industry leaders, policymakers, researchers.
You can share knowledge and drive the future of New
Zealand horticulture and what a great future it has got
(25:16):
as well. This year's theme, I hope it's not like
Shane's theme, why ride the Wave, Avoid the Rip. The
theme for the Horticulture Conference is our people, produce and potential.
If you want to go to that Horticulture end zed
conference in August in Wellington, we've got a ticket or
a pass for two of you for two days. Head
to the country dot co dot enz being to win
(25:38):
the tickets for two to the two day conference plus
the gala dinner. And the best bit is it doesn't
matter where you are in the country, we are going
to fly you there and accommodate you and feed and
water you at the Horticulture New Zealand and your conference
in Wellington and August He's Rural News What.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
The countries world use with cold Cadet. New Zealand's leading
right on lawn Bower brands it steel Ford dot co
dot NZI for your local stockist.
Speaker 10 (26:08):
And last night in Canterbury, of course, was the Balance
Environment Farm Awards for the region. As you mentioned before, Jamie,
I've got some of the winners here. So I've Stuart
Neil Matt and Heidi Hart and we're widing and James
and Samara Wright were all winners last night at those
regional awards.
Speaker 8 (26:23):
Hopefully we'll get some of them on the show next week.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Was that it?
Speaker 8 (26:26):
That's it?
Speaker 7 (26:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Can you google what year woodstock happened? I think it
was like nineteen sixty sixty nine. I think it's sixty nine.
Bloody Powlly saying it texted and this is an old
Rugby maide of mine. I don't think being in your
twenties means you were too young for woodstock. Get off
the grass.
Speaker 8 (26:42):
I love it one well, No, no, that done well.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Look, I haven't got time to go through but the
perfect time to be born or to be a teenager
was in the sixties. I was a teenager in the seventies,
so I missed the boat there his sport.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Sport with AFCO Kiwi to the boat says nineteen o four.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
And I've got no idea wat's in sport because I
haven't even read it. I've been too busy. So let's
just have a look at those athletics champs that are
happening right here in New Zealand at the moment. I
think there's a cricket game on as well. The Black
Ferns are playing.
Speaker 8 (27:14):
Are they started? Teen thirtieth morning?
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Yeah, okay, we'll update that one for you. But you know,
Hamish Kerr, Tom Walsh, Jack o'gil, Zoey Hobbs, Eliza McCartney,
Olivia McTaggart, Tory Peters moreby these days, Maddie, what's mat?
How do I pronounce Maddie's name?
Speaker 8 (27:31):
Is it Vice?
Speaker 2 (27:32):
It might be Vice Silver at Paris, And of course
the two SAMs, Sam Tanner and Sam Ruth. Sam Tanner's
is a real character and Sam Ruth's fifteen years of age.
That's going to be a great fifteen hundred meter final.
Let me just see if I can dig up today's
sports news. Let's have a look. Is that today's or
(27:55):
is that yesterday's. I've got no idea. I know the
White Ferns a batting first and are struggling to score
against Sri Lanka in their second One day Cricket International
in Nelson a short time ago. The New Zealand women
not women, women plural. We're fifty nine to four off
eighteen overs, scoring it less than three and a half
(28:16):
runs and over and talking about cricket. How good is
Sunday night going to be? How many people are going
to be really tired and next to useless at work
on Monday?
Speaker 8 (28:27):
I think they might be us.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
That might be us. Go the black Caps up next.
Doctor John Roache on the ground for us at the
Wanaka Show. It is a beautiful day in Wanaka for
day one of the Upper Cluther Amp Show, the Wanaka Show.
(28:49):
There for us on the ground is the Chief Science
Advisor for MPI, doctor John Roach, who's standing looking at
the beautiful mountains arounding Wanaka. And John, it reminds you.
It reminds you of your home country, Ireland.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
It does two degree Jimmy, good afternoon everyone. Look it's
apart from the fact that sun is cracking the stones
and there's hardly a cloud in the sky. I could
be standing in Kilarney and looking at some of the
mountains at the moment. It is absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
I didn't realize Ireland had mountains as big as New
Zealand's there you go, mind you, I haven't been there
since two thousand and three. And the two things that
stick out for Ireland we will get on too. A
correct topic in a moment for me was the smoky
bars in two thousand and three. You hadn't been smoking
at that stage. And the size the size of your
cows and the smallness of your herds. But all that's changed,
(29:42):
is it, John.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
Well, certainly the smoking and bars has changed. The bars
are still as good fun as they ever were, but
at least you can breathe and your clothes don't have
to go through a dry cleaner the next morning. Herds
are still smaller than they would be here in New Zealand.
Obviously it still sits within the EEU system, but they're
a lot bigger than they were when you were there, Jamie,
And yeah, the in the majority of farming systems. They
(30:06):
have moved towards genetics very similar to what we have
here in New Zealand. So smaller cows, more crossbreads, a
lot more Jersey being used as well. So yeah, we've
learned a lot from New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
You're doing the field dy circuit at the moment. You
were in Northland last week, obviously Wonka today. I think
next week at Central Districts we've got Kurwey as well.
And then on to National field Days you're in the
Science for Farmers' site. Why should farmers come along and
see you at these field days?
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (30:36):
Look, I think that's all correct. I think if they've
got any questions they could come and see if Jamie.
What we've done here is, after setting up on farm Support,
I was asking farmers, you know, what value could we
add to them that their their current advisor couldn't or
that their current organizations couldn't. And overwhelmingly farmers told me
(30:58):
they wouldn't have an idea who was a scientist in
New Zealand who was doing the science that was relevant
to them. And and so what we've done is we've
gathered the scientists together under one under one roof so
that they can come and they can come and ask
whoever questions they want. So we have we have egg
Research and Massy University. We have l I. C. Manachi Fenowell,
(31:18):
Lean Care Research, Agri zero and the New Zealand Agricultural
Greenhouse Gas Research Center here with us, as well as
my team on av ON Farm Support. And there's we're
not selling anything. All we're doing is answering questions. And uh,
you know, we've been we've been going out for a
couple of hours and the amount of people that are
coming through the door. I'm actually standing opposite now looking
(31:40):
in and the number of people that are inside are
talking to the scientists. It's it's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
What sort of questions of the farmers asking you? Are
they asking, for instance, about greenhouse gas submissions or is
that that or are you appointing them to eggri zero inz.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
For that a mixture actually, So we've got an activation
board here that we talked with farmers about, which is
here's your here's your current farm, here's a number of
things that contribute to your greenhouse gas footprint, and just
have a chat about how we could do those things
better and lower that emission's intensity. And then if they're
interested in talking to us about you know, what's coming
(32:16):
in the future of what's being invested in to reduce
meat in or nitros oxide, we take them through tager
zero and ends at age NRC. So that's certainly one
of the conversations. And in Dargaville last week, you know,
great conversations farmers, you know, farmers really interested and the
mood on the ground really good.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
You appointed the Chief Science Advisor for MPI in June
of twenty eighteen. Let's put you right on the hot
spot with both us. Is this one of the great
escape X of all time for New Zealand?
Speaker 5 (32:48):
I don't know, actually you really thought I wanted from
that perspective. By the time we had started this initiative,
you know, the team had got both us under control touchwood,
you know, and a long time since we had a
positive caisse and had to take my head off to
my colleagues and Bisecurity in New Zealand and all of
the people that work with us on that. But this
(33:09):
is the the on Tramp support team. The idea for
it was born out of that. You know, we didn't
have a real strong regional presence at that time. You know,
the math advisors were privatized back in the late eighties
and so without that we weren't as able to work
with the regional teams and the people in the regions
(33:32):
and so on tramp support. I've got ten teams around
the country. I've got nearly sixty people out there, and
you know, the only thing we want to do is help.
So whatever we can do to help, pick up the
phone and give us ring.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Yeah, and I'll give MPI a pat on the back
for the bird flow out bright here in Itaga as well. Well. Hand,
it's very important that you keep our borders secure, doctor
John roach A Chief Science Advisor or MPI. You enjoyed
the Wana kashow and enjoy the Jack Russell.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Rice, well do, thanks very much, Jeannie, yep.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
And it is a great day in Wonica. Day two tomorrow.
Obviously get along if you're in that neck of the ward.
Someone texts it and how do they get to the
hort New Zealand conference. Just go to our website the
country dot co dot nz to enter that wonderful promotion.
It closes Sunday, yep. It closes Sunday night and just
before I forget because I'm good at forgetting now. Last
(34:22):
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(34:44):
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out what works for you and lock it in. Going
to wrap the country next with Chris Brandolino from Knee Okay,
(35:14):
let's wrap the country with air Man at Newa Cris Brandolina.
We've covered the carnage that's about to happen in Australia
where they're going to get far too much wind and rain.
We need some rain, Cris Brandolina Brandolino. In this country,
I know that NIWA came out with your long range
forecast on Monday. What do you got for us?
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Yeah? Look, I think unfortunately for areas that could use
the rain, So we're talking in the western part of
the North Island and even the western part of the
South Island. Those are areas where dryness is a risk.
So we're saying normal or below normal rainfall somewhere between
those two kinds of endpoints rainfall for the season the
three month period on the other side of the divide
(35:56):
for both violands, because we'll have more winds than usual
coming from the east to southeast or east to northeast,
we're expecting rainfall to be normal or above normal. Again,
anywhere in those two end points will fall in that spectrum.
So that's that's the three outlook, though, Jamie. The shorter
kind of medium term forecast is for just relentlessly dry weather,
(36:19):
unfortunately woefully dry over the next week between now and
say next day when we talk again, There'll be many
areas in the North Island, Waycota, especially maybe parts of
the Bay of Plenty, parts of Tetanaki. If you're lucky,
you might get three or four millimeters of rain over
the next seven days. That's if you're lucky. Some places
(36:40):
may get barely enough to tip the tip the bucket.
So it is going to be a really dry over
the next couple of weeks. I think mid to late March,
called the second half of March. We'll have to watch
for some opportunities of rain. I think the west of
the South Island is best in line to see some
meaningful range by say the third week of March or thereabouts,
(37:04):
and that could be a good news for them because
the hydro catchments are getting quite low and that affects
electricity and obviously any farming going on on the west
coast of the South bind which there is many, but
there are some dairy farms and from the North Island,
though Jamie, uh boy, we may have to wait till
late in the month or early April to find any
significant rainfall. But as you know, it's not just one
(37:25):
rainfall event when it's this dry. You need multiple rainfall events.
Just like look, man, if you're a million dollars in
the hole, if you win a ten thousand dollars scratchyet,
that's great, but you need a couple more of those.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
You know.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Okay, Well, I wish you could be the bearer of news.
So I'm glad, I mean, you'll be glad that we
don't shoot the messenger on the show, Crystal, you would
have gone weeks ago.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Oh look man, that would have been yeah, for sure.
You know people are waving at me, Jamie, but it's
only with one finger. I don't know what that is.
Usually when people wave, it should be five fingers.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Oh the life of a wave a man. It's a
twenty seven, twenty four saven job. Chris Brandolini there from
maywe you enjoy your weekend around the country even if
it doesn't rain. What catch up with some of the
athletics here in Duned And what a great weekend it's
going to be. You have a great weekend. Catch you
back Monday.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
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