February 16, 2025 • 38 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to David Seymour, Mark Ericksen, Te Radar, and Dr Jacqueline Rowarth.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
Podcast with Jamie McKay. Thanks to Brent, You're specialist in
John Deere construction equipment.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Baptisms of fire have winnessed yoursel friend as the battle.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
In the good afternoon, New Zealand, Welcome to the Country.
It's brought to you by Brent Music Today courtesy of
our first guest, David Seymour. Gee, there's a man who's
dominated the news headlines for the past week. I said
to him, you can pick the music today. What do
you want? He said, Mark Knophloss, So we're going with
dire straits. I chose others and arms. Could I still
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describe you as and Christopher Luxen as such? David, Yeah,
you can.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
But can I just say it's one of my favorite songs.
I looked at it on YouTube of the day. It's
got one hundred and twenty million views. As for me
and Chris, I we were neighbors ten years ago and
we're working together on a government that is doing so
much stuff that I think our opposition has spun out
and decided to make polites.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Now, hang on, are you going to behave yourself a
wee bit better? When your deputy Prime Minister do a
Winston because he hasn't put a foot wrong, he's been
a statesman.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Well, I don't know how I could behave any better.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
I mean, let me let me count the wise we've had,
the land rover, the pulkinghorn letter, the school, the school lunches.
I'm with you on that, to be fair, undermining your PM.
Some people are saying that and the teacher's only days
staush scrap with Erica.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Well, let's let's take them one at a time. First
of all, you mentioned the land rover didn't break a
single will face no consequences. As a result, helped raise
forty five thousand dollars for children with rheumatic fever affecting
their heart valves. And I've got to say, I understand
what it's like to be a farmer, you know, five
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minutes in a landrover and then persecuted by half the country.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
So I think we can just style it.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Down on that one. You know what, I'll tell you
one thing. If you live in the Ipsom electorate and
you come to me and you need help, I'll help you.
Even my opponents agree that I'm a good local MP.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
And again, but were.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
You poking your nose and where it shouldn't have been
with polking Horn?
Speaker 6 (02:41):
No.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
In fact, if you go to the police website, they
say you think you've been treated unfairly, go and see
your local MP, which is what he did. And you know,
the letters subsequently been released on the Herald and it
wasn't really a story. People said, it's nothing to see here.
Didn't talk about whether there was an investigation, and didn't
talk about whether he was right or wrong, or whether
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he should be investigated or he should be prosecuted, didn't
talk about anything like that, just said, here are a
number of concerns that he has passed on to me
and I feel he should be aware of by the way,
I fully respect your independence, but he felt there was
no other.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Way okay to pass Well, agreed to disagree on that one.
What about the are you undermining?
Speaker 5 (03:23):
What do you disagree with?
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Well, I wouldn't have written a letter of support for him.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Well, it wasn't a letter of support. I think you've
possibly misunderstood what the letter actually said.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Have you have you read it?
Speaker 6 (03:35):
No?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I haven't.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Well, there you go, and this is the problem people
going off half cock without all the facts Anyway, what's
the next change?
Speaker 3 (03:41):
What pies? I say, good on the school lunches for
dishing out of pie on Friday. Apparently it was the
most popular selection you've had. It's one pie is not
going to kill a kid.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Well, one of the biggest problems we have is that
school attendance drops off on the Friday. It's quite bad, actually,
But I can tell you that Pie Day, as we
had last Friday, was the best attempt at Friday, particularly
for what we used to call low decile schools this year.
So maybe we should be doing it more often. But
(04:15):
I know what you were going to say. You said,
I'm quite undermining the Prime Minister.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
No, I'm not. He made a comment about me.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Several years ago, and I just said, I'm not sure
that you should comment if you don't know all the facts.
Now some people say, oh, that's terrible.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
You can't do that.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Everyone has to fall in line. Three bags forser. Actually,
I think that our democracy is maturing. Voters make different choices,
and I am proud to represent people who choose act.
They have a right to have somebody who speaks for
them without saying that, you know, having a difference of
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opinion and somehow the end of the world. In fact,
I think we need to have more positive difference of opinion,
and I think you had one more charge.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Well, no, I haven't finished with school lunches because I'm
with you. I'm with you on school lunches. Is there
a better way to target kids who are hungry? And
I know that kids go to school without a lunch
and they can't learn properly. And I get all of that,
but we're dumping and I know you're saving a lot
of money under your new regime. But is it the
job Is it the job of the state to feed
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the kids? I mean, isn't that the domain of the parents?
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Well, I mean it's no secret.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
I spent three or four years campaigning against the whole concept,
saying it should be gone. But like a lot of things,
you get into government, you've got a couple of partners
and they say, well, we think it should continue. So
you say, all right. I then to say, by the way,
you're responsible for it. So thanks a lot, guys. So
then I thought, what can I do? I thought, well,
if it's going to continue, whether I agree with it
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or not, and if we have to deliver it for
all of the kids that labor delivered it for Whether
I agree with that or not, I'm going to make
it the most efficient damn program, cost effective, quality on
time delivery you can get.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
And that is what we've done.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
If people will focus on the hackups in the first
two weeks. But hey, look, you know, none of the
people criticizing us are getting ninety five to one hundred
percent delivery by week three, and not many of them
could deliver one hundred and forty three thousand hot meals
every day.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yeah, that's my point. Have we got one hundred and
three thousand kids in this country who can't provide their
own lunch? Are we letting parents off the hook here?
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Well?
Speaker 4 (06:27):
You know, obviously I support the position of the government.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
I'm part of the government.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
If you want to look at what I campaigned on
before government, then you'd probably see that I'm not against
your view.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Okay. Well, and the teacher only days the scrap with
Erica on this one. I've got to be careful. I'm
married to a teacher. They can be very dictatorial, David.
My sister's a teacher, and I reckon you know what
I reckon, and I'll get in troubled teachers for saying
they have enough days when they can have teacher only days,
they shouldn't be having them when the kids need to
be learning during the school term.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
It's a widely held sentiment. But if you look at
what's happened here, you know, guy on Espiner made a
totally false accusation. He said that I said no days
in term time and that was undermining Erica. Well, actually,
if you go back to my press release and my
media conference, both of which are still on the record
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from last September, what I actually said is it's entirely
up to the Minister for Education. You need permission from
to close down your school, and I think you should
ask permission because it's not a good message to students
when we tell them they have to go to school
every day that your school shut every second day. So actually,
if you get through to the fact, you'll find that
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there is no disagreement, but it's something that's been manufactured
by a misquote by guy on Espiner and of course
the misery machine that is our media.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Okay, here's some feedback. Just before I let you go go.
David didn't vote ACT, but maybe, maybe, just maybe I will,
says Sandy. Someone else is going on, well, this is
a crack at me year half cock, Jamie. But I
totally agree with you about school lunches. So I got
half of it wrong in their mind. And here's another
one from a Trump voting extreme right winger. He's accusing
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me of being John Campbell and he says, you embody
the wetwoke, ignorant, urban pino grease swilling lefty who still
votes National. That's not a bad insult, is it, David?
Speaker 4 (08:28):
As insults go, he's really wound that line up. But
I've got to say, having met you many times in person,
I think that's a little bit.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
I think it's harsh on Jamie.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
He does have some greed, but it's not Pino gree
it's the top of him.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Good on you, hey, David Seymour, thank you very much
for your time. You behave yourself over the next couple
of weeks. You've got to prepare for the big job,
the deputy prime Minister's job.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
All right, heys having us on the show, Jamie.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Good on you. There we go, David Seymour, who wants
a bit of Mark Knopfler. He used to listen to
a lot of this at Lincoln College as it was
back in the day. It was big in the early eighties.
Oh jeezu. He's polarizing as David Seymour. There's a lot
of feedback coming in for him, and there's a bit
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coming in against him as well, but I guess he's
achieving what he's after with that one. We're going to
take a break here on the country and then we're
going to talk to Mark Ericsson, who's a hawks By
apple grower who sent me some really interesting pictures over
the weekend of the transformation his orchard has made since
Cyclone Gabrielle two years ago. Last Friday, I think his
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orchard was under four and a half meters of water
and he sent me some pictures of how they've repatriated
it and it's very impressive. So we'll talk apples with him.
We're going to update the latest in the FMG Young
Farmer Regional Finals, Mykato by plenty over the weekend. Jacqueline Rawathon,
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why tourism is not all it's cracked up to be.
And Phil Duncan. We're going to do a bit of
a rain dance for you. We're the Wise and we'll
address the elephant in the room when we do sport
and rural news with Rowena Duncan. You might remember on
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Friday show we were talking to Toby Williams out of
Gisbone of course Meats and Woolchair for Federated Farmers about
life two years on from cyclone Gabrielle. We're going down
the road awebit to hawks Bay, Apple growing capital of
the country to chat to Mark ericson from Waymar orchards
and Mark, you've sent me some pictures twelve months ago
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and again today and from where you were two years ago,
you've had a wonderful transformation. How is the recovery going?
Have you fully recovered from Gabrielle.
Speaker 7 (11:05):
Well, we still got a long way to go yet, Jamie,
but we've made some fantastic progress. And yeah, we've replanted
the apples and we've we've tied it up largely, but
we've still got buildings to repair and kerry to resurrect
with new plantings. But as they say, good things take time.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
So at the height of Gabrielle you had something like
four and a half meters covering your orchards. How do
you recover from that?
Speaker 7 (11:32):
Well, there was a lot of resilience needed and great support.
So fortunately, you know farm Strong, they were always there,
had some great consultants, and my wife and family and
good friends of mine and my teammates, my my hard
working team. And as they say, you're only as good
as the people around you. So that's been that, that's
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been the backbone of the whole thing. Really.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Now you're part of a wider group I think called
Mount air and it's a collective of half a dozen
growers with similar philosophies. Are you all larger scale orchardusts.
Speaker 7 (12:08):
Would saying the larger scale we're sort of more headium
sized businesses, Jamie. We are very much family orientated companies
that feed into Mount Aeron with a like minded sort
of growing quality produce.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I love this time of the year, Mark simply because
you can go to your green grosser or your supermarket
and the first of the new season apples are there
and there's nothing better.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
Well, we're right in the thick of a harvest at
the moment, Jamie, and we've got a lot of fruit
on the water getting towards Asia. And you can't, like
you say, you can't get better than picking off the
tree or picking up fresh produce from the store. So yeah,
we're fantastic growing conditions this season and we're reaping the
benefits right now as we speak, with a great harvest
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and progress.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Well, you had the imperfect storm two years ago, and
just talking to other hawks By growers, this season has
basically been a perfect season for you guys, and goodness
knows you needed it.
Speaker 7 (13:09):
Yeah, no, quite correct. Last year was a bit of
a season from from the paverbia as they say, as
well as the season before that. But last season we
had issues were carried over in innoculum, so blax spot
didn't help us and in order to death will leaf
purely image and so therefore we had impediments getting into
the marketplace and as a consequence, how returns were nowhere
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near where what we want them to be.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
You're also growing a bit of key with fruit, as
you mentioned, and I know you've got to sort some
of that out, but Kiwi fruit returns at the moment
are very good. How do apples compare as a venture financially?
Speaker 7 (13:46):
No Kiwi fruits hitting that sweet spot and it has
been very sustainable for the lasts that have decadded a bit,
very fortunate. We've got that new cultivar with G three
that came out of the stable after devastating PSA. But
apples don't quite match the returns at Kevy for it do.
But you know that's a difference between retail marketing and wholesale.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Hey, Mark, I asked this of all apple growers that
I chat to on the show, what's your favorite variety
if you had to eat one apple for the rest
of your life, what would it be?
Speaker 7 (14:20):
Well, funny enough, I used to be a bit of
a cynic of Rocket, but that's my favorite apple of
choice right now. Eats amazing and great crunch stores well,
and yeah, it's received well in the marketplace. So we
just need to onwards and upwards with that brand and
trying to get the demand and supply supply equilibrium and
correct fashion.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Okay, Hey, Mark Ericson, thank you very much for some
of your time from Hawk's Bay. You've got that orchard
at Taradale there. You were right in the guts of
it of the flooding, as we said, four and a
half meters covering your orchard and Hawk's Bay there. If
you don't mind, Mark, we might even chuck some of
your photos up that you kindly sent me so the
rest of the country can look what you've done, because
it's been an amazing repatriation of that land.
Speaker 7 (15:04):
Yeah, thanks Jamie, and I just want to say thanks
to all the comrades and people who's been of assistance
around us for those two years and like minded growers
in a light. You've been hit with the clubs. You know,
they're all working hard to get back on the hawk
again and we're all doing it together. So been tough journey,
but we'll get in on with it.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Good on you mate. Thanks Jamie, you are with the country.
Thanks Mark muzz Wrights. I know the sky Jamie, and
I must say he's a good bastard. He's talking about
Mark there. He will do anything for anyone. He's some
more feedback. Seam Or suffered foot and mouth just before
last election and when he said ACT might sit on
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the cross benches. ACT ended up with six point or
eight point sixty four percent of the votes after polling
between nine and twelve. Yes they did dip Awee, but
didn't they Look, it's all politics. They're all maneuvering themselves.
Winston and act As it's going to be a battle.
The interesting play and they're talking about it already. Is
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Labor trying to woo Winston. I don't think they'll get
him across, But I mean Labor have got a death wish.
If they think that going into government with the Party
Maury's a good idea, I think it'll be it'll sink them.
It's just my humble opinion, rightio. Up next, we're going
to have a look at the FMG Young Farmer Regional Final.
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The Whitecat OBEYA plenty one was held over the weekend.
Our guy, here's the voice of the FMG Young Farmer
Finals Regional Finals in the Grand Final coming up in
Bicago in July. It is Radar Rowena will be here
with the latest and rural news, and we'll have a
look at sports as well. Yes, I know a few
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of you are wanting to hear golf stories. You don't
really want to hear gold stories. But we've also got
another good story for you, and this is the Chris
Luxen T shirt which is now I think sitting at
about over sixteen hundred dollars on t This is the
one he wore over the suit I'll advised wardrobe decision
and we've got it here in Dunedin. Now I've got
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to send it back to Beef and Lamb because it's
worth a whole lot of money to go to a
good course. Anyhow, we'll talk about that one with row
as well. Jacqueline Roweth really interesting comments on why tourism
is not the answer for New Zealand. She says it's
a way to make yourself poorer. Yeah, farming's the way
to go the primary sector. And fell Duncan on the
weather or before the end of the hour in the
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park met here's the voice behind the FMG Young Farmer
of the Year contest. As we count down to the
big Grand Final happening and in the Cargo in early July. Well,
one man who will be heading back down south is
Hugh Jackson because a couple of years ago he represented
Otago Southland in the Grand Final. But he's going back
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as the winner this time to Raider, as the winner
of the Wibomb like kat Obaya plenty. So's an impressive
young man.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
He look, he is very impressive. He was down there
in Otago Southland when they had a very strong club.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
Sure the club was James Fox was there.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
It was great. H He's so he's very driven. He
came third in the Grand Final. He came back up
to the family farm out on the coast, out at Tiakau,
so you know this whist, look at a whist. He
helped with the Grand Final. I think he was on
the committee last year to help organize that. And he's
come through and look he really he dominated, particularly in
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the quiz. You know, it's hard to tell during the
day help people are going. But as soon as we've
got the querz, the very first round photo id round,
he smashed out six of the eight and everyone's sort
of sat there a little you know, a little of
gas and went, wow, boy, he is here to play.
He's done a lot of work for this and he's
going to be a very strong contender. Popular young guy
from down there as well.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Yeah, twenty seven years of age. Radar in the sweet spot,
isn't he? You know, like the three little beers in
the porridge. Not too hot, not too cold. He's been
to a Grand Final, he's finished third a couple of
years ago. You would have to think he's got a
real start. As Chanson and the Cargo.
Speaker 6 (19:14):
Oh look he has, as I say, finished third, helped
organized one last year. He knows what goes on with it,
but it's that mental game on the day, and actually
it's the preparation. And I got the feeling that Hugh
had been doing a lot of preparation for this because
he knows what it's like. Second, Stephen Bruns call in Rock.
He came second this time. I think he was second
last year as well. He's a great competitor. It would
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have been an interesting conversation on the way home as what.
Hailey was a competitor as well. She took out the
Agrisports prize. She was one of the of the four
sort of section prizes that Hugh didn't win. Stephen got second,
but you know Hailey sort of Hailey beat him in
the in the agg Riskills, so that there would have
been a great chat on the way home. Hey, and
look it was a cracker of a regional two. The
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hall was, well, you know what it's like, Jamie, when
you walk into a hall for an evening function and
the first thing you do is you have a little
listen and you listen to that hubbub. While this hall
was a buzz with conversation, A lot of club members,
a lot of people were in the beautiful wirrying of all.
So it was all in all great regional now.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
And Will Evans finished third.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
Now.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
I caught up with you after the first of the
regional finals a couple of weeks ago Northern. Since then
we've had Tara Man or Taranaki Man what two and
I'm just going off the top of my head here,
Radar And it's not that flash these days. But didn't
we have a nineteen year old.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
Win that I think he was pretty young?
Speaker 6 (20:34):
Actually I get turnaboy from memory. It's it was hard
to remember because I've got so many winners every week.
So yeah, you're going to have a spread of ages
across that interesting. This week in the FMG Junior we
had two women's teams take out the two spots from Northern.
We had two women's teams take out the spot from
tower Man And this week we finally got a couple
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of young fellers in there to compete against a very
strong competition that's coming through in that junior section from
those those young women. And look they tested. It's not
only the knowledge you know that they've got science and
animals and various things. They've got practical challenges there as well.
So it's it bodes well for the competition.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Well, the competition is something like five percent of the
entrance to share our female, which is great. And Emma
Paul bless her, wonderful ambassador that she is for everything
she touches. She really did break the grass ceiling.
Speaker 7 (21:26):
Look she did.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
And actually it's interesting someone made a little comment, you know,
it's great to have that, but also a little daunting
for some others because she she did do so very well.
But yeah, she was there on Saturday with Chris and
the kids, so that was great to see her back.
And you know she pops in and out and that's
you know, that's the nature of the competition. We saw
her brother Tim was at Northern he'd taken it out
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the year before. He's actually on his way down to Otago, Southland.
All the best people go down there and various others,
so there's a huge number of people that come back
through and want to be a part of the competition.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
So off to East Coast next, and that's the North
Island tied it up and then you take a bit
of a break and what three in a row in
the South Island.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
Three regions, Yeah, we do.
Speaker 6 (22:08):
What have we got we're about two two and a
half is not this weekend, not week next weekend, the
weekend after we're down, and Masterton week off after that,
and then we knock out the three South Island ones
weekend after weekend, and then we take a little break.
So nice to be down in the north Way Kadoa'll
tell you want to beat down on the way Keadow
again this week for the Arts best Wards my cookbook
reshow on the weekend, and I'm hoping that it will
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have rained because according at the parents place, stayed there
over any why and I'll tell you what it looked
a bit like Marlborough. It was pretty dry down there.
A little skiff of sort of showers came through, barely
settled the dust. So hopefully that north Way Tado, that
White Coato Ridgin gets a bit of rain this week.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Oh I think the some forecast, which is good. And
that was a wonderful, shameless, unapologetic plug for your cookbook
Tour two, So your mails will continue on in that vein.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
Look, here's the thing. Things are a little bit tough
out there for people moment, and it's nice to take
comedy out and celebrate what it means to be in
New Zealands, particular for those food producers. The cook book show.
You don't have to like cockbookshow. You don't even have
to like food Jamie, as is evidenced by many of
the people who have written cookbooks. So it's at the
Hamilton Gardens and the sun will be shining. As people
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haven't been to the gardens, it's a pretty good chance.
I think you pay your take a price. I don't
think you need to pay then to get into the
gardens and they are absolutely world class. So get out.
It's important, I think, particularly if it's a bit dry
and people are struggling and things aren't going as well
as they can. And we say this all the time,
get off the farm, Go find some friends, Go go
and have a go and have a meal, Go do something,
come to your show, take your mind off things for
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a little while.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Well, I'm looking forward to catching up with you when
you're head south to Dunedin. Andrew Lumstone, also known as Radar,
the voice of the FMG Young Farmer Regional Contests. Of
course the Big Final coming up and in the Cargo
in July. We look forward to East Coast and then
the three South Island regions will keep in touch.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
Brilliance. Thank you Jamie.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Thanks Rader. Twenty four away from one year with the Country.
Rowena Duncan's got areas on in Hamilton. I think today
row we'll get reasonably short on time. Want you to
update the luxe and T shirt which we have in
our position here in Dunedin, amongst other things. And I
think you're gonna have You're gonna have to suffer through
a golf story. Sorry about that, and there's a good
reason for it. Our newsboss machine has pooped itself. So
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that's our sports news. Before the end of the hour,
doctor Jaquelin Roweth and Phil Duncan, we'll see if we
can get some of that rain for the Drywaycaddow region
that Radar was talking about. Please welcome back to the Country.
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Speaker 3 (26:03):
So Michelle's crook today. So coming off the bench at
very late notice, and I appreciate a time. Rowena Duncan
and the troll on. No Roe, what are you doing
in Hamilton?
Speaker 6 (26:13):
Hello?
Speaker 3 (26:14):
You might want to turn your fader up at your
end a weabit as well. Okay is that much?
Speaker 8 (26:18):
Is that better?
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Jack?
Speaker 3 (26:19):
That is much better? We can hear you. Thank you,
you go stick.
Speaker 6 (26:22):
All right.
Speaker 8 (26:23):
I'm here because I am attending their Dairy Women's Network
Leadership Forum for this afternoon and all day tomorrow. So
really looking forward to that. Often, as I know, having
been a former dairy farmer, you can get a little
insular and just worrying about what's happening on your farm
and within your network, and it's actually quite good to
meet people who are like minded and motivated and quite
cool from around the country. So looking forward to that.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
Now.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Where are we at with the luxe and T shirt?
Because you and I were our last Tuesday, were in Wellington,
of course, for the National Lamb Day barbecue with the politicians.
Bit of a fashion crime. I tried to replicate it
this morning. It's on our Facebook page. I couldn't find
a suit jacket to put the T shirt over, but
it's quite funny because it was just sitting here Beef
and Lamb said to me, look, take this signed T
(27:07):
shirt and if you can raise some money for charity. Good. Oh,
but all of a sudden it became rather famous.
Speaker 8 (27:13):
Well it did, and I must say I was there
on Tuesday. I didn't even see this fashion crime happened
in person. So I feel like I missed a moment
in history that I could have witnessed firsthand. But no,
it's up on trade me. It is on auction until
two fifty nine on Friday afternoon, the twenty first of September.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Current be septembeen September February.
Speaker 8 (27:33):
I don't know where I got that from Current, but
though sixteen hundred and twenty dollars.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
I heard the hosk so this morning he was even
thinking of betting on it. He's got plenty of money
he can but he couldn't find it on trade me.
So where do you find that? Just on trade me?
Speaker 8 (27:47):
What are you talk about also on our Facebook page?
Which I could have told the Hulska? He had asked, but.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Does someone talk to you?
Speaker 5 (27:54):
No, he doesn't know.
Speaker 8 (27:56):
Yeah, now I'm a lowly person. Someone said, I'm unsure
of the footwold. Would it be best over a suit,
jacket and shirt? And they said it certainly seems to
be on trend at the moment, So go ask some questions,
have a look, have a bid if you feel like it.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
It's a great one and every dollar maid in the
making of this video will go to a good course.
I'm just not quite sure what the course causes, but
I'm sure Kit Arkwright and the team at Beef and
Lamb will find a good home for it. Radio his sport.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Sport with an Athco Kiwi to the bone since nineteen
oh four.
Speaker 8 (28:27):
Yeah, that amazing charity is Kids Can Charity. Hey, look,
we had quite a lot of sharing over the weekend.
We had the Ohura amp Show on Saturday. Women won
three of the full sharing finals. Laura Bradley took out
the senior, Sarah Bryant took out the intermediate, and Jodisha
Kirkpatrick took out the junior, so ups to them. Also
down in South South Island, Sharer of the Year went
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to Dipton sharer Corey Palmer, one of the biggest upset
wins in the open class sharing history in New Zealand
Northern sharer though Tor Henderson didn't really differ that one.
He went for the open final. He won that and
that puts him ahead as part of like a nearly
year long series to find out who's going to represent
New Zealand at the World Champs and Marsterton in twenty
(29:11):
twenty six and Funny Way Happy took out the open
wool handling final. But Jamie the big story over the weekend.
And I know you've only got me on the show
so I can ask you about the golf, so you're
not seen to be bragging about it yourself. But your
hole in one shot of a lifetime talk us through
it out.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Look, any mug can get a hole in one, That's
what I've said all along. Rough Seriously, anyone can get
a hole in one. A thirty six handicap, I can
get a hole in one. Shooting pars are far greater feet.
Look at how many pars did you get on Saturday?
Not many? No, No, I was honestly about to give up golf.
I've been going through a form slump. I've just gone
double bogie, double bogie, bang up. And that's just that's
(29:53):
the beauty of golf. But us are saying any mug
can get a hole in one. And if you've always
got to land somewhere, yes, got a land, so and
and our former broadcasting colleague Lee Piper's proof of that.
Although although he only hit us about ninety meters to
get his hole in one three, well it was even
as shortened during COVID path three. I wouldn't even count
it as a hole in one. It's not like a
(30:15):
par four. Not that I'm runing up that I'm rubbing it.
But yeah, look, great celebrations afterwards, a lot of fun.
So every dog has a start.
Speaker 8 (30:23):
A group, which is a golfing. No.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
No, I was playing so badly that I didn't think
i'd honestly get there. It was a path four, so
I had to give it a reasonable nudge. And yeah,
I was too scared to go up to them because
I thought they were raising their fists when we were
on the tee. And I'm thinking, so people do that
to you again, Yeah, yeah they do often they do.
And I'm thinking, these guys are really going to have
a piece of me for hitting up on them. I
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went up and apologized, and they said, what are you
apologizing for. You've got a hold on one. So suddenly
my miserable golf was better. And that's all I will
say about that. Bro, Thanks for your time. We might
come back to you and thank you. We might come
back at you a wee bit later in the hour,
but up next it is doctor Jaqueline Rowath with some
interesting thoughts on why tourism is not going to be
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the be all and end all and the savior of
the New Zealand economy. I'm sure you're going to enjoy
what she has to say.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
When we.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Love chatting to this lady on the country. A name
is doctor Jacqueline Roweth, of course, one of our leading
primary sector academics. Jacqueline. I was hoping to get on
the show today Bruce Cottrell, who is a herald business
columnist well known podcaster, because I was reading something he
wrote over the weekend about why we should be kicking
(31:44):
the Paris Agreement to touch Now I know I'll get
a disagreement from you on that. Why should we stay
in there trade?
Speaker 9 (31:52):
It's all part of a lot of our trade deals,
particularly the recent ones of course, but with the countries
that had signed up doing better every year in terms
of the environment and that screenhouse gases in particular for
them is very important, and we are doing better and
we are better than most of the rest of the
world per kilo of product. So this actually involvement puts
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us in a good position. And never forget that the
goals we create how much by when that is actually
set by us, it's our nationally determined contribution. So there's
a bit of a debate about whether national should have
made the drops required by the next time period greater.
But the fact is it is better than it was.
(32:38):
I mean, it is tighter than it was, and we
are on a positive.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
View, but hang on, Jacquelin, only by one percent. It's tokenism.
But the other thing is.
Speaker 9 (32:49):
Not when you're already good.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Okay, but yeah, but we're not. Hang on, We're not
going to reach that fifty percent goal by twenty thirty.
It's unattainable.
Speaker 9 (33:00):
Fifty but not by twenty thirty. Absolutely agreed. And all
the theories about massive technological disruption with methane whatever's and
we keep forgetting about methane is actually there in the
cow or in the rumnant for a reason, as in
it protects the animals from acidosis. So disruption is not
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always a good idea. So let's do some biological enhancing
of productivity, and we do that through research and development
in our pastoral based systems that nobody else really has,
which is a course by our product is regarded as
free range, graph fed, all of those sorts of things
with high animal welfare, and we're in a good position
(33:46):
to be able to supply the protein. You know, it's
unprocessed fruit. You don't need to do very much to
milk or meat to make it oible. You like the
that stuff, all right?
Speaker 3 (33:58):
I want to move on because you know, Luxon's all
about growth, doubling exports in the next decade, blah blah blah,
And I get all that, and I kind of figured
dairy as our biggest industry, is going to have to
do some of the heavy lifting. But the one that
had slightly annoys me. And it always has a tourism.
You know, there was a time when tourism was supposedly
earning more export dollars for US than dery. But it's
(34:21):
a false economy because tourisms are two ways straight. Yes,
we get tourists in here and they've messed the place up,
some of them. But b we export a lot of
our dollars overseas when we go touring.
Speaker 9 (34:34):
Yeah, and most of the hotels or car rental properties
are car rental companies that are in New Zealand, they're
not owned by New Zealanders. So it was the professoror
Paul Callahan who said every tourist in this country makes
us poorer. Most of the jobs associated with tourism are
low paid. So I think our Prime Minister is right
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in terms of his explanation. We need to grow the
economy and that will allow people to have better jobs,
better lifestyles, all of those sorts of things. And I
just think I'm with you in thinking you picked your
biggest industry that actually brings new money into the country
and support it. And saying we'll double the export from
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a new widget when it's only tiny is not going
to make a difference.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
You're on the board of Dairy and Z. You're also
on the board of Ravenstown, right, you're still on the board.
Speaker 9 (35:28):
Of that, Yeah, and deer Industry end Z.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Well, you're on every board. It'll be quicker to name
the boards you're not on. Okay, how realistic is it
for us to increase dairy production? And I'm talking about
from an environmental point of.
Speaker 9 (35:43):
View here there are technologists and these are obvious technologies,
things like putting shelters in and capturing nutrients so that
the animals are out grazing for the time they want
to be. Then they come back to their shelter, get
their top up on their food according to whether it's
sloppy grass or haid off grass, so that they're actually
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fed to peak nutrition and they're in a cooler or
drier or warmer depending on the season environment, and they
go straight to the milking parlor. Aren't British, it's a parlor,
and then they can go back out to fresh pasture.
And that, for instance, is a very good way of
capturing nutrients and ensuring that the animal is peak peak
elite athlete getting back into calves producing the milk, and
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that's what helps lower the greenhouse gases.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
But it's also a high cost system. Don't we pride
ourselves on being totally grass feed or nearly totally grass
feed and having an open range of free range system.
Speaker 9 (36:39):
They are free range because they get choices about what
they do. That's the theory about free range. And in
terms of low cost, well, we've been beaten on that
because of immigrant labor and other countries for a long time,
maybe fourteen yews. So what we are is focused on
high welfare for all our animals, not just dairy, but
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high wealth and ensuring as the environment changes that the
animals are able to be looked after, to be healthy
as well as productive. And surely that's what everybody wants.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
There we go Dr Jackwell and Rowe. You can read
all about it on our website, The Country dot co
dot nz. She doesn't want to do a Trump and
get us out of the Paris Agreement, jaquill and always
good to change.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
Thanks by.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
It's just another one of your deals, Julie.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
And that wraps The Country, brought to you by Brent.
Run out of time to chat to Phil Duncan. I'll
get him on the show tomorrow. And I think we've
got some good news for parts of the country that
are looking for a bit of rain. Ludvik Orberg has
won the latest PGA Tour event and Daytona has stalled
again due to inclement weather. I think the Trumpsters there,
(37:53):
He's everywhere. He's omnipresent. I can't believe Donald Trump's the
first ever US president to go to the Super Bowl.
Will catch you back tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Baptisms of fire have winnessed yoursel friend as the battle.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
In the good afternoon, New Zealand, Welcome to the Country.
It's brought to you by Brent Music Today courtesy of
our first guest, David Seymour. Gee, there's a man who's
dominated the news headlines for the past week. I said
to him, you can pick the music today. What do
you want? He said, Mark Knophloss, So we're going with
dire straits. I chose others and arms. Could I still
(01:01):
describe you as and Christopher Luxen as such? David, Yeah,
you can.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
But can I just say it's one of my favorite songs.
I looked at it on YouTube of the day. It's
got one hundred and twenty million views. As for me
and Chris, I we were neighbors ten years ago and
we're working together on a government that is doing so
much stuff that I think our opposition has spun out
and decided to make polites.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Now, hang on, are you going to behave yourself a
wee bit better? When your deputy Prime Minister do a
Winston because he hasn't put a foot wrong, he's been
a statesman.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Well, I don't know how I could behave any better.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
I mean, let me let me count the wise we've had,
the land rover, the pulkinghorn letter, the school, the school lunches.
I'm with you on that, to be fair, undermining your PM.
Some people are saying that and the teacher's only days
staush scrap with Erica.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Well, let's let's take them one at a time. First
of all, you mentioned the land rover didn't break a
single will face no consequences. As a result, helped raise
forty five thousand dollars for children with rheumatic fever affecting
their heart valves. And I've got to say, I understand
what it's like to be a farmer, you know, five
(02:19):
minutes in a landrover and then persecuted by half the country.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
So I think we can just style it.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Down on that one. You know what, I'll tell you
one thing. If you live in the Ipsom electorate and
you come to me and you need help, I'll help you.
Even my opponents agree that I'm a good local MP.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
And again, but were.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
You poking your nose and where it shouldn't have been
with polking Horn?
Speaker 6 (02:41):
No.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
In fact, if you go to the police website, they
say you think you've been treated unfairly, go and see
your local MP, which is what he did. And you know,
the letters subsequently been released on the Herald and it
wasn't really a story. People said, it's nothing to see here.
Didn't talk about whether there was an investigation, and didn't
talk about whether he was right or wrong, or whether
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he should be investigated or he should be prosecuted, didn't
talk about anything like that, just said, here are a
number of concerns that he has passed on to me
and I feel he should be aware of by the way,
I fully respect your independence, but he felt there was
no other.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Way okay to pass Well, agreed to disagree on that one.
What about the are you undermining?
Speaker 5 (03:23):
What do you disagree with?
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Well, I wouldn't have written a letter of support for him.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Well, it wasn't a letter of support. I think you've
possibly misunderstood what the letter actually said.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Have you have you read it?
Speaker 6 (03:35):
No?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I haven't.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Well, there you go, and this is the problem people
going off half cock without all the facts Anyway, what's
the next change?
Speaker 3 (03:41):
What pies? I say, good on the school lunches for
dishing out of pie on Friday. Apparently it was the
most popular selection you've had. It's one pie is not
going to kill a kid.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Well, one of the biggest problems we have is that
school attendance drops off on the Friday. It's quite bad, actually,
But I can tell you that Pie Day, as we
had last Friday, was the best attempt at Friday, particularly
for what we used to call low decile schools this year.
So maybe we should be doing it more often. But
(04:15):
I know what you were going to say. You said,
I'm quite undermining the Prime Minister.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
No, I'm not. He made a comment about me.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Several years ago, and I just said, I'm not sure
that you should comment if you don't know all the facts.
Now some people say, oh, that's terrible.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
You can't do that.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Everyone has to fall in line. Three bags forser. Actually,
I think that our democracy is maturing. Voters make different choices,
and I am proud to represent people who choose act.
They have a right to have somebody who speaks for
them without saying that, you know, having a difference of
(04:51):
opinion and somehow the end of the world. In fact,
I think we need to have more positive difference of opinion,
and I think you had one more charge.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Well, no, I haven't finished with school lunches because I'm
with you. I'm with you on school lunches. Is there
a better way to target kids who are hungry? And
I know that kids go to school without a lunch
and they can't learn properly. And I get all of that,
but we're dumping and I know you're saving a lot
of money under your new regime. But is it the
job Is it the job of the state to feed
(05:21):
the kids? I mean, isn't that the domain of the parents?
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Well, I mean it's no secret.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
I spent three or four years campaigning against the whole concept,
saying it should be gone. But like a lot of things,
you get into government, you've got a couple of partners
and they say, well, we think it should continue. So
you say, all right. I then to say, by the way,
you're responsible for it. So thanks a lot, guys. So
then I thought, what can I do? I thought, well,
if it's going to continue, whether I agree with it
(05:48):
or not, and if we have to deliver it for
all of the kids that labor delivered it for Whether
I agree with that or not, I'm going to make
it the most efficient damn program, cost effective, quality on
time delivery you can get.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
And that is what we've done.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
If people will focus on the hackups in the first
two weeks. But hey, look, you know, none of the
people criticizing us are getting ninety five to one hundred
percent delivery by week three, and not many of them
could deliver one hundred and forty three thousand hot meals
every day.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yeah, that's my point. Have we got one hundred and
three thousand kids in this country who can't provide their
own lunch? Are we letting parents off the hook here?
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Well?
Speaker 4 (06:27):
You know, obviously I support the position of the government.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
I'm part of the government.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
If you want to look at what I campaigned on
before government, then you'd probably see that I'm not against
your view.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Okay. Well, and the teacher only days the scrap with
Erica on this one. I've got to be careful. I'm
married to a teacher. They can be very dictatorial, David.
My sister's a teacher, and I reckon you know what
I reckon, and I'll get in troubled teachers for saying
they have enough days when they can have teacher only days,
they shouldn't be having them when the kids need to
be learning during the school term.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
It's a widely held sentiment. But if you look at
what's happened here, you know, guy on Espiner made a
totally false accusation. He said that I said no days
in term time and that was undermining Erica. Well, actually,
if you go back to my press release and my
media conference, both of which are still on the record
(07:24):
from last September, what I actually said is it's entirely
up to the Minister for Education. You need permission from
to close down your school, and I think you should
ask permission because it's not a good message to students
when we tell them they have to go to school
every day that your school shut every second day. So actually,
if you get through to the fact, you'll find that
(07:45):
there is no disagreement, but it's something that's been manufactured
by a misquote by guy on Espiner and of course
the misery machine that is our media.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Okay, here's some feedback. Just before I let you go go.
David didn't vote ACT, but maybe, maybe, just maybe I will,
says Sandy. Someone else is going on, well, this is
a crack at me year half cock, Jamie. But I
totally agree with you about school lunches. So I got
half of it wrong in their mind. And here's another
one from a Trump voting extreme right winger. He's accusing
(08:18):
me of being John Campbell and he says, you embody
the wetwoke, ignorant, urban pino grease swilling lefty who still
votes National. That's not a bad insult, is it, David?
Speaker 4 (08:28):
As insults go, he's really wound that line up. But
I've got to say, having met you many times in person,
I think that's a little bit.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
I think it's harsh on Jamie.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
He does have some greed, but it's not Pino gree
it's the top of him.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Good on you, hey, David Seymour, thank you very much
for your time. You behave yourself over the next couple
of weeks. You've got to prepare for the big job,
the deputy prime Minister's job.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
All right, heys having us on the show, Jamie.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Good on you. There we go, David Seymour, who wants
a bit of Mark Knopfler. He used to listen to
a lot of this at Lincoln College as it was
back in the day. It was big in the early eighties.
Oh jeezu. He's polarizing as David Seymour. There's a lot
of feedback coming in for him, and there's a bit
(09:16):
coming in against him as well, but I guess he's
achieving what he's after with that one. We're going to
take a break here on the country and then we're
going to talk to Mark Ericsson, who's a hawks By
apple grower who sent me some really interesting pictures over
the weekend of the transformation his orchard has made since
Cyclone Gabrielle two years ago. Last Friday, I think his
(09:40):
orchard was under four and a half meters of water
and he sent me some pictures of how they've repatriated
it and it's very impressive. So we'll talk apples with him.
We're going to update the latest in the FMG Young
Farmer Regional Finals, Mykato by plenty over the weekend. Jacqueline Rawathon,
(10:01):
why tourism is not all it's cracked up to be.
And Phil Duncan. We're going to do a bit of
a rain dance for you. We're the Wise and we'll
address the elephant in the room when we do sport
and rural news with Rowena Duncan. You might remember on
(10:32):
Friday show we were talking to Toby Williams out of
Gisbone of course Meats and Woolchair for Federated Farmers about
life two years on from cyclone Gabrielle. We're going down
the road awebit to hawks Bay, Apple growing capital of
the country to chat to Mark ericson from Waymar orchards
and Mark, you've sent me some pictures twelve months ago
(10:56):
and again today and from where you were two years ago,
you've had a wonderful transformation. How is the recovery going?
Have you fully recovered from Gabrielle.
Speaker 7 (11:05):
Well, we still got a long way to go yet, Jamie,
but we've made some fantastic progress. And yeah, we've replanted
the apples and we've we've tied it up largely, but
we've still got buildings to repair and kerry to resurrect
with new plantings. But as they say, good things take time.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
So at the height of Gabrielle you had something like
four and a half meters covering your orchards. How do
you recover from that?
Speaker 7 (11:32):
Well, there was a lot of resilience needed and great support.
So fortunately, you know farm Strong, they were always there,
had some great consultants, and my wife and family and
good friends of mine and my teammates, my my hard
working team. And as they say, you're only as good
as the people around you. So that's been that, that's
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been the backbone of the whole thing. Really.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Now you're part of a wider group I think called
Mount air and it's a collective of half a dozen
growers with similar philosophies. Are you all larger scale orchardusts.
Speaker 7 (12:08):
Would saying the larger scale we're sort of more headium
sized businesses, Jamie. We are very much family orientated companies
that feed into Mount Aeron with a like minded sort
of growing quality produce.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I love this time of the year, Mark simply because
you can go to your green grosser or your supermarket
and the first of the new season apples are there
and there's nothing better.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
Well, we're right in the thick of a harvest at
the moment, Jamie, and we've got a lot of fruit
on the water getting towards Asia. And you can't, like
you say, you can't get better than picking off the
tree or picking up fresh produce from the store. So yeah,
we're fantastic growing conditions this season and we're reaping the
benefits right now as we speak, with a great harvest
(12:56):
and progress.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Well, you had the imperfect storm two years ago, and
just talking to other hawks By growers, this season has
basically been a perfect season for you guys, and goodness
knows you needed it.
Speaker 7 (13:09):
Yeah, no, quite correct. Last year was a bit of
a season from from the paverbia as they say, as
well as the season before that. But last season we
had issues were carried over in innoculum, so blax spot
didn't help us and in order to death will leaf
purely image and so therefore we had impediments getting into
the marketplace and as a consequence, how returns were nowhere
(13:32):
near where what we want them to be.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
You're also growing a bit of key with fruit, as
you mentioned, and I know you've got to sort some
of that out, but Kiwi fruit returns at the moment
are very good. How do apples compare as a venture financially?
Speaker 7 (13:46):
No Kiwi fruits hitting that sweet spot and it has
been very sustainable for the lasts that have decadded a bit,
very fortunate. We've got that new cultivar with G three
that came out of the stable after devastating PSA. But
apples don't quite match the returns at Kevy for it do.
But you know that's a difference between retail marketing and wholesale.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Hey, Mark, I asked this of all apple growers that
I chat to on the show, what's your favorite variety
if you had to eat one apple for the rest
of your life, what would it be?
Speaker 7 (14:20):
Well, funny enough, I used to be a bit of
a cynic of Rocket, but that's my favorite apple of
choice right now. Eats amazing and great crunch stores well,
and yeah, it's received well in the marketplace. So we
just need to onwards and upwards with that brand and
trying to get the demand and supply supply equilibrium and
correct fashion.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Okay, Hey, Mark Ericson, thank you very much for some
of your time from Hawk's Bay. You've got that orchard
at Taradale there. You were right in the guts of
it of the flooding, as we said, four and a
half meters covering your orchard and Hawk's Bay there. If
you don't mind, Mark, we might even chuck some of
your photos up that you kindly sent me so the
rest of the country can look what you've done, because
it's been an amazing repatriation of that land.
Speaker 7 (15:04):
Yeah, thanks Jamie, and I just want to say thanks
to all the comrades and people who's been of assistance
around us for those two years and like minded growers
in a light. You've been hit with the clubs. You know,
they're all working hard to get back on the hawk
again and we're all doing it together. So been tough journey,
but we'll get in on with it.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Good on you mate. Thanks Jamie, you are with the country.
Thanks Mark muzz Wrights. I know the sky Jamie, and
I must say he's a good bastard. He's talking about
Mark there. He will do anything for anyone. He's some
more feedback. Seam Or suffered foot and mouth just before
last election and when he said ACT might sit on
(15:45):
the cross benches. ACT ended up with six point or
eight point sixty four percent of the votes after polling
between nine and twelve. Yes they did dip Awee, but
didn't they Look, it's all politics. They're all maneuvering themselves.
Winston and act As it's going to be a battle.
The interesting play and they're talking about it already. Is
(16:05):
Labor trying to woo Winston. I don't think they'll get
him across, But I mean Labor have got a death wish.
If they think that going into government with the Party
Maury's a good idea, I think it'll be it'll sink them.
It's just my humble opinion, rightio. Up next, we're going
to have a look at the FMG Young Farmer Regional Final.
(16:26):
The Whitecat OBEYA plenty one was held over the weekend.
Our guy, here's the voice of the FMG Young Farmer
Finals Regional Finals in the Grand Final coming up in
Bicago in July. It is Radar Rowena will be here
with the latest and rural news, and we'll have a
look at sports as well. Yes, I know a few
(16:46):
of you are wanting to hear golf stories. You don't
really want to hear gold stories. But we've also got
another good story for you, and this is the Chris
Luxen T shirt which is now I think sitting at
about over sixteen hundred dollars on t This is the
one he wore over the suit I'll advised wardrobe decision
and we've got it here in Dunedin. Now I've got
(17:08):
to send it back to Beef and Lamb because it's
worth a whole lot of money to go to a
good course. Anyhow, we'll talk about that one with row
as well. Jacqueline Roweth really interesting comments on why tourism
is not the answer for New Zealand. She says it's
a way to make yourself poorer. Yeah, farming's the way
to go the primary sector. And fell Duncan on the
weather or before the end of the hour in the
(17:36):
park met here's the voice behind the FMG Young Farmer
of the Year contest. As we count down to the
big Grand Final happening and in the Cargo in early July. Well,
one man who will be heading back down south is
Hugh Jackson because a couple of years ago he represented
Otago Southland in the Grand Final. But he's going back
(17:58):
as the winner this time to Raider, as the winner
of the Wibomb like kat Obaya plenty. So's an impressive
young man.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
He look, he is very impressive. He was down there
in Otago Southland when they had a very strong club.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
Sure the club was James Fox was there.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
It was great. H He's so he's very driven. He
came third in the Grand Final. He came back up
to the family farm out on the coast, out at Tiakau,
so you know this whist, look at a whist. He
helped with the Grand Final. I think he was on
the committee last year to help organize that. And he's
come through and look he really he dominated, particularly in
(18:36):
the quiz. You know, it's hard to tell during the
day help people are going. But as soon as we've
got the querz, the very first round photo id round,
he smashed out six of the eight and everyone's sort
of sat there a little you know, a little of
gas and went, wow, boy, he is here to play.
He's done a lot of work for this and he's
going to be a very strong contender. Popular young guy
from down there as well.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Yeah, twenty seven years of age. Radar in the sweet spot,
isn't he? You know, like the three little beers in
the porridge. Not too hot, not too cold. He's been
to a Grand Final, he's finished third a couple of
years ago. You would have to think he's got a
real start. As Chanson and the Cargo.
Speaker 6 (19:14):
Oh look he has, as I say, finished third, helped
organized one last year. He knows what goes on with it,
but it's that mental game on the day, and actually
it's the preparation. And I got the feeling that Hugh
had been doing a lot of preparation for this because
he knows what it's like. Second, Stephen Bruns call in Rock.
He came second this time. I think he was second
last year as well. He's a great competitor. It would
(19:36):
have been an interesting conversation on the way home as what.
Hailey was a competitor as well. She took out the
Agrisports prize. She was one of the of the four
sort of section prizes that Hugh didn't win. Stephen got second,
but you know Hailey sort of Hailey beat him in
the in the agg Riskills, so that there would have
been a great chat on the way home. Hey, and
look it was a cracker of a regional two. The
(19:59):
hall was, well, you know what it's like, Jamie, when
you walk into a hall for an evening function and
the first thing you do is you have a little
listen and you listen to that hubbub. While this hall
was a buzz with conversation, A lot of club members,
a lot of people were in the beautiful wirrying of all.
So it was all in all great regional now.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
And Will Evans finished third.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
Now.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
I caught up with you after the first of the
regional finals a couple of weeks ago Northern. Since then
we've had Tara Man or Taranaki Man what two and
I'm just going off the top of my head here,
Radar And it's not that flash these days. But didn't
we have a nineteen year old.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
Win that I think he was pretty young?
Speaker 6 (20:34):
Actually I get turnaboy from memory. It's it was hard
to remember because I've got so many winners every week.
So yeah, you're going to have a spread of ages
across that interesting. This week in the FMG Junior we
had two women's teams take out the two spots from Northern.
We had two women's teams take out the spot from
tower Man And this week we finally got a couple
(20:55):
of young fellers in there to compete against a very
strong competition that's coming through in that junior section from
those those young women. And look they tested. It's not
only the knowledge you know that they've got science and
animals and various things. They've got practical challenges there as well.
So it's it bodes well for the competition.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Well, the competition is something like five percent of the
entrance to share our female, which is great. And Emma
Paul bless her, wonderful ambassador that she is for everything
she touches. She really did break the grass ceiling.
Speaker 7 (21:26):
Look she did.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
And actually it's interesting someone made a little comment, you know,
it's great to have that, but also a little daunting
for some others because she she did do so very well.
But yeah, she was there on Saturday with Chris and
the kids, so that was great to see her back.
And you know she pops in and out and that's
you know, that's the nature of the competition. We saw
her brother Tim was at Northern he'd taken it out
(21:48):
the year before. He's actually on his way down to Otago, Southland.
All the best people go down there and various others,
so there's a huge number of people that come back
through and want to be a part of the competition.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
So off to East Coast next, and that's the North
Island tied it up and then you take a bit
of a break and what three in a row in
the South Island.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
Three regions, Yeah, we do.
Speaker 6 (22:08):
What have we got we're about two two and a
half is not this weekend, not week next weekend, the
weekend after we're down, and Masterton week off after that,
and then we knock out the three South Island ones
weekend after weekend, and then we take a little break.
So nice to be down in the north Way Kadoa'll
tell you want to beat down on the way Keadow
again this week for the Arts best Wards my cookbook
reshow on the weekend, and I'm hoping that it will
(22:29):
have rained because according at the parents place, stayed there
over any why and I'll tell you what it looked
a bit like Marlborough. It was pretty dry down there.
A little skiff of sort of showers came through, barely
settled the dust. So hopefully that north Way Tado, that
White Coato Ridgin gets a bit of rain this week.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Oh I think the some forecast, which is good. And
that was a wonderful, shameless, unapologetic plug for your cookbook
Tour two, So your mails will continue on in that vein.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
Look, here's the thing. Things are a little bit tough
out there for people moment, and it's nice to take
comedy out and celebrate what it means to be in
New Zealands, particular for those food producers. The cook book show.
You don't have to like cockbookshow. You don't even have
to like food Jamie, as is evidenced by many of
the people who have written cookbooks. So it's at the
Hamilton Gardens and the sun will be shining. As people
(23:16):
haven't been to the gardens, it's a pretty good chance.
I think you pay your take a price. I don't
think you need to pay then to get into the
gardens and they are absolutely world class. So get out.
It's important, I think, particularly if it's a bit dry
and people are struggling and things aren't going as well
as they can. And we say this all the time,
get off the farm, Go find some friends, Go go
and have a go and have a meal, Go do something,
come to your show, take your mind off things for
(23:37):
a little while.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Well, I'm looking forward to catching up with you when
you're head south to Dunedin. Andrew Lumstone, also known as Radar,
the voice of the FMG Young Farmer Regional Contests. Of
course the Big Final coming up and in the Cargo
in July. We look forward to East Coast and then
the three South Island regions will keep in touch.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
Brilliance. Thank you Jamie.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Thanks Rader. Twenty four away from one year with the Country.
Rowena Duncan's got areas on in Hamilton. I think today
row we'll get reasonably short on time. Want you to
update the luxe and T shirt which we have in
our position here in Dunedin, amongst other things. And I
think you're gonna have You're gonna have to suffer through
a golf story. Sorry about that, and there's a good
reason for it. Our newsboss machine has pooped itself. So
(24:22):
that's our sports news. Before the end of the hour,
doctor Jaquelin Roweth and Phil Duncan, we'll see if we
can get some of that rain for the Drywaycaddow region
that Radar was talking about. Please welcome back to the Country.
(24:44):
It is brought to you by Brandt. My name is
Jamie McKay up. Very shortly, Rowen Duncan with the latest
in auroral news. We'll have a look at sport for
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Speaker 3 (26:03):
So Michelle's crook today. So coming off the bench at
very late notice, and I appreciate a time. Rowena Duncan
and the troll on. No Roe, what are you doing
in Hamilton?
Speaker 6 (26:13):
Hello?
Speaker 3 (26:14):
You might want to turn your fader up at your
end a weabit as well. Okay is that much?
Speaker 8 (26:18):
Is that better?
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Jack?
Speaker 3 (26:19):
That is much better? We can hear you. Thank you,
you go stick.
Speaker 6 (26:22):
All right.
Speaker 8 (26:23):
I'm here because I am attending their Dairy Women's Network
Leadership Forum for this afternoon and all day tomorrow. So
really looking forward to that. Often, as I know, having
been a former dairy farmer, you can get a little
insular and just worrying about what's happening on your farm
and within your network, and it's actually quite good to
meet people who are like minded and motivated and quite
cool from around the country. So looking forward to that.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
Now.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Where are we at with the luxe and T shirt?
Because you and I were our last Tuesday, were in Wellington,
of course, for the National Lamb Day barbecue with the politicians.
Bit of a fashion crime. I tried to replicate it
this morning. It's on our Facebook page. I couldn't find
a suit jacket to put the T shirt over, but
it's quite funny because it was just sitting here Beef
and Lamb said to me, look, take this signed T
(27:07):
shirt and if you can raise some money for charity. Good. Oh,
but all of a sudden it became rather famous.
Speaker 8 (27:13):
Well it did, and I must say I was there
on Tuesday. I didn't even see this fashion crime happened
in person. So I feel like I missed a moment
in history that I could have witnessed firsthand. But no,
it's up on trade me. It is on auction until
two fifty nine on Friday afternoon, the twenty first of September.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Current be septembeen September February.
Speaker 8 (27:33):
I don't know where I got that from Current, but
though sixteen hundred and twenty dollars.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
I heard the hosk so this morning he was even
thinking of betting on it. He's got plenty of money
he can but he couldn't find it on trade me.
So where do you find that? Just on trade me?
Speaker 8 (27:47):
What are you talk about also on our Facebook page?
Which I could have told the Hulska? He had asked, but.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Does someone talk to you?
Speaker 5 (27:54):
No, he doesn't know.
Speaker 8 (27:56):
Yeah, now I'm a lowly person. Someone said, I'm unsure
of the footwold. Would it be best over a suit,
jacket and shirt? And they said it certainly seems to
be on trend at the moment, So go ask some questions,
have a look, have a bid if you feel like it.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
It's a great one and every dollar maid in the
making of this video will go to a good course.
I'm just not quite sure what the course causes, but
I'm sure Kit Arkwright and the team at Beef and
Lamb will find a good home for it. Radio his sport.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Sport with an Athco Kiwi to the bone since nineteen
oh four.
Speaker 8 (28:27):
Yeah, that amazing charity is Kids Can Charity. Hey, look,
we had quite a lot of sharing over the weekend.
We had the Ohura amp Show on Saturday. Women won
three of the full sharing finals. Laura Bradley took out
the senior, Sarah Bryant took out the intermediate, and Jodisha
Kirkpatrick took out the junior, so ups to them. Also
down in South South Island, Sharer of the Year went
(28:49):
to Dipton sharer Corey Palmer, one of the biggest upset
wins in the open class sharing history in New Zealand
Northern sharer though Tor Henderson didn't really differ that one.
He went for the open final. He won that and
that puts him ahead as part of like a nearly
year long series to find out who's going to represent
New Zealand at the World Champs and Marsterton in twenty
(29:11):
twenty six and Funny Way Happy took out the open
wool handling final. But Jamie the big story over the weekend.
And I know you've only got me on the show
so I can ask you about the golf, so you're
not seen to be bragging about it yourself. But your
hole in one shot of a lifetime talk us through
it out.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Look, any mug can get a hole in one, That's
what I've said all along. Rough Seriously, anyone can get
a hole in one. A thirty six handicap, I can
get a hole in one. Shooting pars are far greater feet.
Look at how many pars did you get on Saturday?
Not many? No, No, I was honestly about to give up golf.
I've been going through a form slump. I've just gone
double bogie, double bogie, bang up. And that's just that's
(29:53):
the beauty of golf. But us are saying any mug
can get a hole in one. And if you've always
got to land somewhere, yes, got a land, so and
and our former broadcasting colleague Lee Piper's proof of that.
Although although he only hit us about ninety meters to
get his hole in one three, well it was even
as shortened during COVID path three. I wouldn't even count
it as a hole in one. It's not like a
(30:15):
par four. Not that I'm runing up that I'm rubbing it.
But yeah, look, great celebrations afterwards, a lot of fun.
So every dog has a start.
Speaker 8 (30:23):
A group, which is a golfing. No.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
No, I was playing so badly that I didn't think
i'd honestly get there. It was a path four, so
I had to give it a reasonable nudge. And yeah,
I was too scared to go up to them because
I thought they were raising their fists when we were
on the tee. And I'm thinking, so people do that
to you again, Yeah, yeah they do often they do.
And I'm thinking, these guys are really going to have
a piece of me for hitting up on them. I
(30:46):
went up and apologized, and they said, what are you
apologizing for. You've got a hold on one. So suddenly
my miserable golf was better. And that's all I will
say about that. Bro, Thanks for your time. We might
come back to you and thank you. We might come
back at you a wee bit later in the hour,
but up next it is doctor Jaqueline Rowath with some
interesting thoughts on why tourism is not going to be
(31:09):
the be all and end all and the savior of
the New Zealand economy. I'm sure you're going to enjoy
what she has to say.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
When we.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Love chatting to this lady on the country. A name
is doctor Jacqueline Roweth, of course, one of our leading
primary sector academics. Jacqueline. I was hoping to get on
the show today Bruce Cottrell, who is a herald business
columnist well known podcaster, because I was reading something he
wrote over the weekend about why we should be kicking
(31:44):
the Paris Agreement to touch Now I know I'll get
a disagreement from you on that. Why should we stay
in there trade?
Speaker 9 (31:52):
It's all part of a lot of our trade deals,
particularly the recent ones of course, but with the countries
that had signed up doing better every year in terms
of the environment and that screenhouse gases in particular for
them is very important, and we are doing better and
we are better than most of the rest of the
world per kilo of product. So this actually involvement puts
(32:16):
us in a good position. And never forget that the
goals we create how much by when that is actually
set by us, it's our nationally determined contribution. So there's
a bit of a debate about whether national should have
made the drops required by the next time period greater.
But the fact is it is better than it was.
(32:38):
I mean, it is tighter than it was, and we
are on a positive.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
View, but hang on, Jacquelin, only by one percent. It's tokenism.
But the other thing is.
Speaker 9 (32:49):
Not when you're already good.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Okay, but yeah, but we're not. Hang on, We're not
going to reach that fifty percent goal by twenty thirty.
It's unattainable.
Speaker 9 (33:00):
Fifty but not by twenty thirty. Absolutely agreed. And all
the theories about massive technological disruption with methane whatever's and
we keep forgetting about methane is actually there in the
cow or in the rumnant for a reason, as in
it protects the animals from acidosis. So disruption is not
(33:23):
always a good idea. So let's do some biological enhancing
of productivity, and we do that through research and development
in our pastoral based systems that nobody else really has,
which is a course by our product is regarded as
free range, graph fed, all of those sorts of things
with high animal welfare, and we're in a good position
(33:46):
to be able to supply the protein. You know, it's
unprocessed fruit. You don't need to do very much to
milk or meat to make it oible. You like the
that stuff, all right?
Speaker 3 (33:58):
I want to move on because you know, Luxon's all
about growth, doubling exports in the next decade, blah blah blah,
And I get all that, and I kind of figured
dairy as our biggest industry, is going to have to
do some of the heavy lifting. But the one that
had slightly annoys me. And it always has a tourism.
You know, there was a time when tourism was supposedly
earning more export dollars for US than dery. But it's
(34:21):
a false economy because tourisms are two ways straight. Yes,
we get tourists in here and they've messed the place up,
some of them. But b we export a lot of
our dollars overseas when we go touring.
Speaker 9 (34:34):
Yeah, and most of the hotels or car rental properties
are car rental companies that are in New Zealand, they're
not owned by New Zealanders. So it was the professoror
Paul Callahan who said every tourist in this country makes
us poorer. Most of the jobs associated with tourism are
low paid. So I think our Prime Minister is right
(34:57):
in terms of his explanation. We need to grow the
economy and that will allow people to have better jobs,
better lifestyles, all of those sorts of things. And I
just think I'm with you in thinking you picked your
biggest industry that actually brings new money into the country
and support it. And saying we'll double the export from
(35:19):
a new widget when it's only tiny is not going
to make a difference.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
You're on the board of Dairy and Z. You're also
on the board of Ravenstown, right, you're still on the board.
Speaker 9 (35:28):
Of that, Yeah, and deer Industry end Z.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Well, you're on every board. It'll be quicker to name
the boards you're not on. Okay, how realistic is it
for us to increase dairy production? And I'm talking about
from an environmental point of.
Speaker 9 (35:43):
View here there are technologists and these are obvious technologies,
things like putting shelters in and capturing nutrients so that
the animals are out grazing for the time they want
to be. Then they come back to their shelter, get
their top up on their food according to whether it's
sloppy grass or haid off grass, so that they're actually
(36:03):
fed to peak nutrition and they're in a cooler or
drier or warmer depending on the season environment, and they
go straight to the milking parlor. Aren't British, it's a parlor,
and then they can go back out to fresh pasture.
And that, for instance, is a very good way of
capturing nutrients and ensuring that the animal is peak peak
elite athlete getting back into calves producing the milk, and
(36:28):
that's what helps lower the greenhouse gases.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
But it's also a high cost system. Don't we pride
ourselves on being totally grass feed or nearly totally grass
feed and having an open range of free range system.
Speaker 9 (36:39):
They are free range because they get choices about what
they do. That's the theory about free range. And in
terms of low cost, well, we've been beaten on that
because of immigrant labor and other countries for a long time,
maybe fourteen yews. So what we are is focused on
high welfare for all our animals, not just dairy, but
(36:59):
high wealth and ensuring as the environment changes that the
animals are able to be looked after, to be healthy
as well as productive. And surely that's what everybody wants.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
There we go Dr Jackwell and Rowe. You can read
all about it on our website, The Country dot co
dot nz. She doesn't want to do a Trump and
get us out of the Paris Agreement, jaquill and always
good to change.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
Thanks by.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
It's just another one of your deals, Julie.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
And that wraps The Country, brought to you by Brent.
Run out of time to chat to Phil Duncan. I'll
get him on the show tomorrow. And I think we've
got some good news for parts of the country that
are looking for a bit of rain. Ludvik Orberg has
won the latest PGA Tour event and Daytona has stalled
again due to inclement weather. I think the Trumpsters there,
(37:53):
He's everywhere. He's omnipresent. I can't believe Donald Trump's the
first ever US president to go to the Super Bowl.
Will catch you back tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Take care you can all the cheese, the silver, catch
all the latest from the land. It's the Country Podcast
with Jamie McKay. Thanks to Brent, your specialist in John
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Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.