October 28, 2024 • 36 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Phil Duncan, Kate Scott, Greg Menzies and Kyle Miller, Mark de Lautour, and Adam Thompson.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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the country after a couple of weeks in the States.
I just thought i'd play a wee bit of Herman's
Hermit's simply because when we were in New York we
went to a Broadway production called Six, which is coming
to New Zealand early next year. Go along and have
a look. It's fantastic. It is the story of the
six wives of Henry the Eighth. Right, We're going to
(01:02):
kick off the show today with a man who also
loves the United States. It's a great well there are
divided states. To be perfectly honest, a man who loves
the United States, great country to visit, wouldn't want to
live there, Phil Duncan, we are going to chat to
Kate Scott, a new chief executive of horticulture in New Zealand.
We're launching a bear and some potato chips today on
(01:25):
the country. Mark Delator is the chief executive of Open
Country Dairy, a boomer of the season for all dairy
farmers production wise, apart from in Southland and Adam Thompson.
Entries close on Thursday for the twenty twenty five Xander
McDonald Awards. But no time to waste, Let's get into it.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
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Speaker 3 (01:46):
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Speaker 3 (01:56):
Okay, Phil Duncan, I know you've spent a lot of
time in the States. You're a big fan of the country.
Are you like me? Love the country? Wouldn't want to
live there?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, pretty much. Or if I did live there, it
would be a property that I would go and visit
for a certain amount of time of the year and
then come back home here.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
I know I'm a bit guilty of getting being over
the top about the American election, but I just want
to I can't emphasize enough or reinforce enough how important
potentially this is going to be for us here in
New Zealand as a trading nation especially. I put it
to you, Phil, if Donald Trump wins.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, it's a remarkable election.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Really.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
You know, if you were just looking at the stats
and the gut instinct, you'd think there's no way he
could win. But then everybody said that in twenty sixteen
and he did. This one feels different. I still think
that the Democrats are going to win, but I've got
to say, in the last few weeks that has a
road of my confidence of that happening. So it is
going to be an amazing election, really, and I don't
(03:00):
think it will be over by next Wednesday. They may
well be something.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Well, certainly, it certainly won't be over if Trump doesn't win,
He's like a dog with the bone. Interestingly, Kamala Harris
may well win. In fact, she will win the popular vote,
but that matters stuff all. It's seven battleground states that
will decide the election. That's effectively how their electoral college
system works at the moment. It stands. At the moment,
(03:25):
pel Trump's leading in five of those seven states.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Although within the margin of era, and so you know, pillary,
Clinton was up by three points in one of those
states and she lost it. So it shows that if
you were within those two three percent doesn't necessarily help
you work out who's going to win. But I still
think that this, yes, it's going to come under those states,
and those states ten to be more conservative than your
average kind of like New Zealander would be. So it'll
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be interesting to see where it goes. But I think
the momentum is behind her, but the polling is certainly
showing its neck and net.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
We had great weather over there. We were on the
Eastern Seaboard for two weeks, not a drop of rain,
blue skies each day and every day. In fact, the
Eastern Seaboard, in fact, a lot of the United States
is now in drought. We're going to talk how that
might play out for New Zealand farmers with Mark de Latour.
But drought is certainly something that hasn't been happening in
(04:21):
my home patch. I've been keeping a keen eye on
what's happening in the South especially, and some of the
snow pictures coming out of Central Otago, for instance, over
the weekend was bizarre.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yeah, yeah, they had with this low pressure zone that formed,
it was deepening over the South Island and at the
same time it was dragging down rain clouds or subtropical
air down into the country and also pulling up sub
Antarctic air, and it just all was sinking and meeting
over that inland part of Canterbury, the Hay Country, and
here you're right up half a meter of snow. I
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know that the farmers up there are still dealing with
that today. So it's been quite an event. And speaking
of eastern seaboards, you know, our eastern seaboard and the
eastern side of the North Island is also remarkably dry.
And we're getting a sudden rapid increase in complaints and
questions and concerns coming out of Hawk's Bay about just
how dry it is with soil moisture levels really just
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disappearing rapidly with the warmer, hotter, windier weather that we've
been seeing over the last month or two. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Well, I'm looking at that NEE word Drought Index map
and yes, some concerning colors coming out of Hawks Bay.
And the other region is the East Coast obviously Gisbone,
East Coast, Poverty Bay, region.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah, that that eastern side, you know, it is part
of spring. Springs, windy westeries and lack of rain in
those eastern areas tends to do this, So hopefully it's
just part of spring. But the concern going into summer
that I've got is we are still not seeing l'armina.
So if you're banking the farm on Larnina coming in
and bringing rain, I wouldn't be so confident. I don't
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think that we're going to necessarily even get Larninia because
the computer modeling out there from all the different governments,
when you combine it suggests that we're actually heading back
towards dal Nino next year. Maybe it's certainly staying in
the neutral zone or going into the neutral zone next year.
We're in neutral now it's leaning towards Larminia. There is
more life and energy up in the tropics, but at
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the same time, November is the start of the cyclone
season up there, so it is normal for it to
also be getting more active and energetic. But one last
thing is over in Queensland. Been very dry in Queensland
for the last several months. They've now got rain showing
up and it's a long way away from us, but
whether our air flows lately have been coming out of
Queensland at times. So it's just something to note that
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there is a bit of a pattern change going on
around Australia at the moment. So hopefully we will start
to see some change. But for now, going into November,
the windy westerly pattern carries on. Spring carries on because
we are still seeing some really major storms nine to
fifty hectopascal range down over the southern Ocean yep.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
And I know that the West Coast and God made
them capable of handling where they've had plenty of it's
on the West coast and also the south. Will they
catch a break and will some of those areas in
the next week and I'm talking about Hawks Bay East
Coast regions, will they catch a break and get a
bit of rain?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I don't think in the next week or so we're
going to be seeing much change from the pattern we've
had over the last week or two, which is windy
westerly is coming back and again sometimes hot north West
is perhaps a bit cold to southwest for others at
the other end of the southern end of the country,
still seeing plenty of rain coming for the West coast,
still seeing some spill over into Southland at Otago. So
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it's the same spring that we've been experiencing carrying on,
which means those in the east and those at the
very top of the North Island and perhaps even the
top of the South Island not likely to see quite
as much wet where they're going through. But like I say,
November is an interesting month. Spring fades away, summer starts
to come in. It'll be very interesting to see what
starts to happen up in the tropics as well.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Got on you, Phil Dunk can always appreciate your time.
From where the watch there is bang on quarter past
twelve year with the country. It is brought to you
by Brandt. Exciting day to day. First day back on
the tools and I get to launch a new Bear
and some potato chips. Great branding exercise that is Greg
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Menzies and Kyle Miller A wee bit later, but up
next the new Chief Executive of Horticulture New Zealand, Kate Scott.
I don't know how she fits all this into a day.
We'll ask her. Mark de Latour on what's happening in
New Zealand production wise. I mentioned South and they're having
a bit of a shaka or have had in September
and October. But some of those other key dairying regions
(08:46):
Taranaki Waikato having an absolute ripper, which is good for them.
They deserve a decent season. And Adam Thompson, he's based
in Cambridge. What a great part of the country that is.
Entries close on Thursday for the twenty twenty five Xander
McDonald Awards. Will tell you all about that before the
end of the hour, Michelle or come in and we'll
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do rural news. We've got sports news for you as well.
We'll tell you who the best football player is in
the world.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Five and already a file.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I see you, look you may baby? Can you hear
my heart? It's the old saying, if you want a
job done, ask a busy person. Here's a busy person
who has just taken on another role. She's only been
in it for a week or two. Her name is
Kate Scott. She's the new chief executive of Horticulture. New
is Zellen Kate. How do you squeeze all this into
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your day?
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Hi, Jenny, Look, that's a great question. I being the
daughter of a dairy farmer, I'm used to working an
early start time and tend to go late into the
evening sometimes. But looks, for me, it's not about the
time it takes. It's about the pleasure that you get
from being able to contribute, and I guess that's kind
of what motivates me to take on new roles and
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new challenges.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Well, you're living in Bannockburn or currently living in Bannicburn,
I think you're going to move to Wellington. You got
the hobby and three kids, idyllic lifestyle. Why would you
want to move to Wellington.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Well, look, I think that's a great question, And some
days I might have questioned whether Wellington's the best placement.
It's very windy and very west yet in Thanet Boom
we have about three hundred mills of rain per year.
But look, I think to serve the HOWT sector, Welles
being based in Wellington is the right decision. But look,
we are going to make sure that we keep a
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base in central Otaga and we'll have the vineyard there
for comfort if nothing else.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
So you're keeping the Bannockburn residents, you're keeping the small vineyard.
What about your other business, land Pro. You're a resource
management planner by trade, and in fact, I think that's
where our paths first cross way back when you were
doing an Field scholarship in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Look, like all good businesses that are looking at dealing
with succession, this is part of my pathway for succession.
So I have been looking at moving out of Lampro
in a day to day capacity for a couple of years.
And you know, I'm staying on as a director and
as a shareholder. But the team there are highly capable,
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and you know, to be honest, I'm pretty proud that
I can step out of the business and have the
confidence that they are going to a should probably do
a much better job without media interfering all the time.
So look, I'm excited about able to you know, contribute
to the bigger picture through my new role at hauteing Z.
But see, you know, Lampro continue to deliver great things
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for its for its clients as well.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Was this job as chief executive of Horta Culture, New
Zealand basically too good an opportunity not to take up.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Look, I think that pretty much sums it up for me.
The opportunity is around how do you can tribute to
the border sector and you know, make a difference to
see you know, the whole of the primary sector for
Born New Zealand and actually flourish. And you know, sometimes
if you want to, you know, make things happen, sometimes
you've just got to put your hand up and try
to be a part of that. And that's what I've
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chosen to do.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
You're coming in at a good time. I think of
your predecessor, poor old Nardine Tunney who came and you know,
she had COVID, she had cyclone. Gabrielle, You're coming in
when Kiwi fruit is on a real high and the
likes of apples are looking really good as well.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Look, I'm incredibly grateful to you know, Nadine has done
a fantastic job leading the organization and great Heart and
so I am feeling very very blessed to be able
to take over from all the hard work that she
has done. And you know that the sector is looking
pretty strong at the moment. As you say, We've got
Kiwi fruit and it was great. Last week I had
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the opportunity to attend thirty s Garalagan If for nded
KGI celebrating the Kiwi fruit industry, and I tell you
it was an amazing testament to the hard work and
foresight of the leaders in that sector to be able
to set the Keywi fruit industry up for its successes.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
It's reaping today.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Kate Scott with us the Chief Executive or the new
Chief Executive of horticulture in New Zealand. The current government
wants to double primary sector exports in the next decade
and I think of the likes of the dairy industry
and I see it being difficult to double production there
for environmental reasons. If nothing else, are we going to
do this off the back of horticulture.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Look, I saw Horticulture's got a really big role to
play in how we actually meet this lofty goal that
the government has set. But that goal also aligns quite
nicely with horticulture's rter role Horticultural Action Plan, which is
a multi veceted, multi partner strategy that's looking at how
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does it double farm gate value of horticulture by twenty
thirty five, And so the two quite nicely aligned. And
I think if we look at some of those tough
challenges we've got out there, around climate related challenges, environmental challenges.
I think diversification of land use and growth with in
the horticultural sector is going to be a really important
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part to our future prosperity.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Yeah, and good luck in the role you will play
over the next few years. Kate Scott, Horticulture in New
Zealand's new chief executive. Let's keep in touch.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Thanks, Jammie, appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Thank you, Kate. Twenty four after twelve you are with
the country, brought to you by brand. Very shortly, we're
going to launch some beer. I love Bear. That's a
poignant pause there, Michelle, what who's wandered into the studio? Now?
I love beer and I love coffee. And that's the
(14:49):
first thing I did when I got back into New
Zealand was go to the Kuri Lounge in Auckland and
grab a coffee because the American coffee sucks and the
Bear is not as good as ours either, nothing like MS.
But we're launching a new beer today and some new
potato chips.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Now.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
I did send you and you and Jane in a
private message a photo of myself in a new Trump hat.
It's actually a Trump hat I've bought for my son.
I didn't expect you to publish it on Facebook, but
I hang on, I'll tell I shouldn't turn your microphone
on your your job is under severe threat. Where is
(15:25):
your microphone? I don't know how to work this. Tests
there we go. Try that one Alo Michelle. Hello, right,
I've got you now. So that was meant to be
a private communication. I may sue you if I was
in America at the moment where they're very litigious. Is
that the word? I would probably see you?
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (15:40):
Well, I thought it was too good not to share
with our listeners. It's it's such a great pitch and
already it's it's going to fair bit attraction. If you
want to go have a lot, go check out our
Facebook page. The Hat is The Hat is Magnificent.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
And I did a video also because I went to
like New York, Boston, and Washington, all of which been before,
but I had never been to Philadelphia, which is sort
of halfway between New York and Washington. You do it
on the speed train. It's a great way to travel.
All I went there for because honestly, there's not that
much in Philadelphia. I went there to run up the
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rocky stairs.
Speaker 8 (16:14):
I'm kind of disappointed to hear that there's not much there.
I was. I would have been excited to stop in Philly.
I haven't actually been there, but the stairs you.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Yeah, yeah, that was the main thing. Anyhow, let's get
on to it up next, we're going to admit a
week today, I think, because I'm trying to work all
this out myself. I'm just you know, that first day
back on the job. We've got a new beer and
we've got some potato chips. They are to die for.
I'll tell you that one for nothing. Greg Menzi's Cayle
Miller Up next, Mark Delatour out of Open Country Dairy.
(16:45):
What a Trump victory could mean for you New Zealand
Dairy Farmers and Adam Thompson are entries closing on Thursday
for the twenty twenty five Sanda McDonald Award.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
Well you can hear this.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
First day back on the tools here on the country,
and what a great show I've chosen to make a
reappearance on because we're launching the Farmer's Poor Bear or
with Emerson's and the Farmers Chips with their friend from
Heartland Ships. Now. Heartland Ships have been about since twenty
ten makes them fourteen years of age. Here at the Country,
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we've blown out thirty candles a bit earlier in the year,
but I can't hold a candle to Emerson's who were
celebrating thirty two years in the game. Hey, Greg, Emerson's
Greg Emerson, let me that was a fraudy and slip.
Let me try Greg Mensi's from Emerson's. Your second name, Mayles,
will be Emerson's Greg. You are the voice of Emerson's
here on the Country. Tell me about the collaboration because
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you drove this with the guys from Heartland Chips.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
Well, yeah, when we first heard about the Heartland Chips
were a good client of the Country, we thought, let's
get in touch with them and see what we can
do about joining together. Because Bear and Chips what a
perfect match.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Absolutely, And I'm a bit of a fan of the
old Heartland Chips. And Kyle Miller joins assist the commercial manager.
And one of the reasons, or probably the main reason
I'm a fan of the Heartland ships. I love the
flat ship, the big crisp crunchy flat chip.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Well, we actually made those chips especially for you, Jane,
all right. They're actually really, really special so we're really
glad to hear you like them. And they snuck out
into the market last week and the feedbacks been absolutely
autumn on them.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Well, I got messages while I was in the States,
as I say, first day back on the tools from
people are going, what's your ugly marg doing on the
front of a track there on the front of a
chip packet.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
I think that's what's telling them, Jamie.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
I don't think so. Now there's three flavors, Kyle Miller.
There's salt and vinegar, which is your absolute go to
this green onion and I had a sample before I
left of them of the maple bacon that was really good.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
Oh yeah, So making bacon is one of the ones
that we sort of do sort of a unique flavor
to Heartland, and we thought, well, if we're going to
do a co lab with both Emerson's and the Country,
we have to come up with flavors that everyone's going
to love. But something that's a little bit more unique,
just like Emerson's was their beer. So maple bacon was
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no brainer for us.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Greg Menzies, I apologize for calling you Greg Emerson's. Greg Menzies,
We've matched these Heartland chips up with a beer. It's
called the Farmer's Poor. Tell me about that.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
Yeah, so we had a difficult job because Heartland brought
out three different flavors and it was really hard to
bring up three different beers. So we've produced a beer
called Farmers Poor Extra Crispy pale Ale, and the beer
goes with all three different flavors. It's the perfect pal
al and nice and crispy to go off the crispy chips.
(20:00):
And yeah, it was beautiful.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
What sort of percentage are we talking here? Because, as
I say, in the States, I tried a lot of bears,
none of them anywhere near as good as your stuff
at Emerson's. But they do do some high percentas over there.
You've got to be careful.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
You do have to be careful. Their tax laws are
a bit different over there, so they can get their
high alcohol down in price a bit more than we can.
But the Farmer's Poor as five point four percent, so
perfect session will bere.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
A crispy pale ale to die for? Okay, Kyle, I
thought we were launching this today, but they've been in
the supermarkets. I think launched last week. I couldn't believe
how many messages they got on the States about the chips.
What's the feedback you've been getting and what's the favorite,
what's the early favorite?
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Well, funny enough, Well, the thing was it was the
South Island supermarkets that obviously just couldn't wait and they
released it early to the stores and so probably no
surprise in the South Island green Onions actually coming out
on top at the moment, which is no surprises. A
real Southern flavor that day. One thing's to enjoy down here, So.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Maple bacon, green onion, salt and vinegart They are the
chips from Heartland from Emerson's, we've got the extra crispy
pal al Greg. On Tuesday, Melbourne Cup Day, we're going
to do a bit of a launch at Emerson's around lunchtime.
Tell me how that plays out.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
So from eleven thirty, I think we're going to start
the launch and we're going to be having your show
produce live from Emerson's from twelve o'clock and then afterwards
we're going to try the Heartland chips. The farmers cut
chips in a chip sandwich mad with traditional Kiwi dip.
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It's a delicacy.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Well, if it's a chip sandwich.
Speaker 6 (21:43):
This has to be white bread, definitely white bread. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
we have to. We have to go a little bit unhealthy.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
For this one, just this one day, Kyle, you up
for that? Are you up for a chip sandwich?
Speaker 5 (21:55):
I think you're great. I think they're going to elevate
our chips to a whole new level. I'm actually looking
forward to it.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Hey, Kyle, it was great to meet with you and
Raymond Bowen. So Raymond's the South Canterbury farmer who came
up with the idea of Heartland Hips and we had
a great day filming some videos there or a couple
of months ago, so I'm sure Raymond. Hopefully Raymond will
be joining us as well in Dunedin and I think Greg,
we're also having a launch in Auckland and the Big
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Smoke Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
I think that's on the nineteenth of November. Yeah, and
the morning so Tavern. So yeah, we'll do it all
over again.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
More about that in the weeks to come. But Kyle
Miller from Heartland Chips commercial manager. Greg Mensi's from Emerson's
marketing manager. Hey, thanks for your time, guys, look forward
to seeing you this time in a week's time from today.
And we'll be broadcasting live from Emerson's here in Dunedin.
Thanks for your time, Gadi, Thanks Janning Wade, thank you.
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Thanks guys. Yeah, and you can join us. We'll tell
you how you can do that next Tuesday. For lunch
a bear, Well you can have the bear, but you
have a chip sandwich white bread chips and does it
get any better than that? Up next, talking about the chips,
Michelle's just wandered in with a bag of farmer's cut
(23:15):
Sultan vinegar chips. Are going to try those in the
break we'll be back with Rural News and sports news.
You've got a lovely door, all right, welcome back to
the country. Excuse me, I've got a mouthful of Sultan
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vinegar farmers cut chips. My goodness there God all right, well,
I try and swallow those. Michelle. You can buy me
some time by doing Rural News.
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Speaker 8 (23:57):
You like you're enjoying that. I'm sort of hogging him
over there in the corner.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Can you hear that? Crunch.
Speaker 8 (24:02):
They're good chips. There is a rule about eating on
the radio, but I think this exception.
Speaker 9 (24:05):
Right.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
I'm the one who I had to tell your predecessor
off on numerous occasions no eating in the studio. We'll
make an excuse this time for commercial reasons, right, isn't
it right?
Speaker 7 (24:16):
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Hawks Bay amp Show was in Hastings on Friday and
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third was Brock Hamilton and fourth was actually a fellow
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Speaker 3 (24:46):
The chips are so thick and crunching and they're flat.
They're not crinkled, they're flat. New Zealand Rugby's denying reports
they've had internal discussions with Warrior's boss Cameron George for
their commercial chief executive role. And Manchester midfielder Rodri has
been recognized as the world's best men's player at Football's
(25:07):
Ballendor Awards in Paris. Up next, what could a Trump
victory in the States mean for New Zealand dairy farmers.
It's Mark Delatour. A symbol of his name is Mark Delatour.
He's the chief executive of Open Country Dairy and Mark.
(25:29):
When I was in the States, I was reading a
really interesting article in the New York Times about what
potentially could happen to the US dairy industry if Trump
gets elected Because in the big milk producing states such
as Idaho, basically all the labor is Mexican, and a
lot of that labor is illegal. Trump's threatening to send
(25:52):
them back home on day one. What ramifications could that
have for the New Zealand airy industry. Good afternoon, by
the way, Yeah, go afternoon, Jamie.
Speaker 9 (26:02):
Yeah, it's interesting, isn't it. I mean, I would suggest
there's going to be a lot more than that one
topic that's changed if Trump with the election.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Jamie.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
But I mean it's true.
Speaker 9 (26:12):
You know, I've lived in the States, and certainly that
type of labor is available throughout the States, and it
subsidizes those industries. So I look, at the end of
the day, their cost of production will lift they'll have
to pay because properly, and you know, probably not a
bad thing. Certainly not a bad thing for New Zealand
(26:32):
in that instance, Jamy.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
The other interesting thing about the States at the moment
is especially the eastern seaboard where I was, is in
a prolonged drought. They've been through summer, they're into their
fall we call it autumn, and they're desperately dry. So
that again could play into the hands of New Zealand farmers,
not only dairy farmers, but also beef farmers.
Speaker 9 (26:55):
Well, it's the opposite of what we're seeing here, isn't it.
I guess. I was talking to my car and just
on the phone last night and he's near Wirral and
he said it's getting a little bit dry there. But
I would say he's a lone voice.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
You know.
Speaker 9 (27:09):
We spent three weeks going around New Zealand, Jamie, talking
to our supplies, and there's not too many of them
that are complaining about lack water, you know, so certainly
the opposite if they're drying out, We've got plenty of
rain down here, which has float onto milk production generally.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Now, I know a few Southland farmers who are complaining
about the water. I eat too much of it. I've
had a terrible September October, Yeah.
Speaker 9 (27:34):
They have, and it's I mean, such an important crucial
area for open country, that Southland area south and then
Otago for that matter. But if you look back in August,
if I remember my numbers wrote, they were about twenty
two percent up on the year prior in August and
hanging on the back of two strong years before that,
(27:55):
so it was looking really, really good. And now if
you look at September October game or two halves, you know,
they've just been hammered by rain and cold down there.
And I think looking at it, we're probably operating at
about three hundred thousand liters a day less than we're
expecting right now. So you had a tough whole time
down there while you've been sunning yourself in the States journey.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Oh and it was very sunny and very hot, never
saw a drop of rain, blue skies for two weeks
in a row. Look the key I mean, the other
key dairying regions in this country obviously the Waikato, Taranaki, Canterbury,
and I'll go with those two North Island ones not
so much irrigation there as there is in Canterbury. But
(28:38):
they're having very good seasons.
Speaker 9 (28:40):
Oh, really really strong, Jamie. I think milk flows into
our two Waykato sites and our site Monganui that services
Manam two and Taranaki are record breaking, to be honest,
record breaking. And in the Waikato, as you know, we
are now collecting for the fifty four farms that supply
(29:01):
s late North Island. Then yeah, add onto the top
and our factories are running and running hard. So it's
it's it's good if you're running a factory, that's that's
for sure. There's a fair bit of milk around.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
How are you going to find a home for all
the milk? All this all these milk products? And are
we still looking at nine dollars?
Speaker 9 (29:21):
You've been trying to get me to call nine dollars
for months now, Jamie. But look, I think it is
an interesting of the first challenges New Zealanders need to
stop telling the world how much milk we're producing. That's
never a smart thing to do. So you know, we
are having a strong season and that's positive. I think
five or six percent up on volumes is a good
(29:41):
thing for everyone's costs. We just need to make sure
we've got it well sold and good plans ahead. So
you know, I think that the markets are firm. This
good demand. The only thing that we're a little bit
conservative on, Jamie, and that you know the reason we're
not calling Elgare Team U nine that you want me
to desperately. As you know, China is really driven right now.
(30:06):
Their ordering is driven by lack of inventory. So as
we know, they haven't bought well for a last couple
of seasons and their invageries are running low, so that's
triggering some buying now pre Chinese New Year. I'd be
a bit more confident if we saw their demand their
consumer usage being high at the same time, because short
inventries can be can be counted with a purchase, strong
(30:31):
demand requires multiple purchases, So we're just being a little
bit conservative. But by goodness, it's compared to the last
two seasons that their industry is looking strong.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Yeah, I think we'll take it. And what happens in
the States in eight days time our time is going
to have a huge influence on China and world trade,
so we'll keep a wary eye on that one. A
Mark Dlator out of Open Country Dairy. Always good to
catch up.
Speaker 9 (31:00):
Thanks Jenny.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
The eighth time.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Thursday, the thirty first of October is closing day for
applications for the twenty twenty five Well It will be
announced in twenty twenty five Xander McDonald Award or Awards.
Here's a finalist from twenty twenty two. And she's tough going,
isn't it, Adam Thompson, with all you do in New
Zealand agriculture along with your wife Claire Williamson, we might
(31:26):
come back to her, but you got pipped at the
post by Rhys Roberts in twenty twenty two. She's a
tough one to win the Zander McDonald Award.
Speaker 10 (31:35):
Yeah, there's certainly a lot of honor in it and
for me just a real privilege to be a finalist
in it, you know. And yet wouldn't be an interview
on the Country without being reminded that Reese Pitney.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
I'm sorry about that, but you know, I think of
a guy like Tim dangin another regular here on the Country,
like yourself, and when his name went forward for the
twenty twenty four awards this year, I thought, well Hill
was home, but he didn't. In the end, he got
beaten by Nancy crawl Shaw, and of course Nancy's far
fart part. Let me rephrase that of a very high
(32:06):
achieving farming family, the crawl Shaw family as well. So
it's just it's just bringing the cream to the top
in this country.
Speaker 10 (32:15):
And that's the real strength for it, you know, in
terms of encouraging people to get stuck in and get
their application. And it's not about winning it and putting
a trophy on the shelf. It's actually about being a
part of something really special, a great group of mentors,
a great group of people and even just the other
finalists from other years and the alumni is quite active
and being in that if you can make it through
to being a finalist, you're actually part of something and
(32:36):
you get to be involved in that group and it
encourages you to do more and have the support to
do more. So it's not actually it's not necessarily a
recognition of where you've been. It's actually opportunity to go further.
And I think that's something that's really special about this
particular award.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Now in twenty twenty two, when you entered res Roberts,
as you said, came through. He's the boss of a
line farms there from mid Canterbury, but Olivia Weatherburn, good
South lond Katie Vickers as well, do you step Do
you keep in touch with these people?
Speaker 7 (33:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (33:04):
We do, Like we had a chat group started as
soon as we who came find us and regularly we'll
be in there chatting to each other. And also the
alumni is going to really active Facebook page and we
have Zoom catchups as well and obviously the yearly conference
where we all get together. But it's just one of
those places you can put out to a lot of
very intelligent people and go, hey, here's a question, you know,
(33:25):
can you help.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Me with us?
Speaker 10 (33:26):
And everyone's so keen to learn and guide each other
along with it too, which is bloody fantastic.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
So applications closing on Thursday. The website is Xander McDonald
Award dot com to apply and to find out more
and we would encourage people obviously to enter this. Adam
will I've got you. He used to be a mortgage broker.
Does your wife run that business?
Speaker 7 (33:50):
Now?
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Clear?
Speaker 9 (33:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (33:52):
So Claiar and Hannah they run they run the mortgage
business and Clei's probably a little bit like me. She's
out there doing a bunch of other stuff and having
plenty of fun too. But yeah, that's that's interesting with
interest rates coming down and a lot more activity. But
there's there's plenty going on in the White It at
the moment sort of you know, speaking off earlier about
the season we have in here is absolutely exceptional. Is
a lot more buoyancy I think, and sort of positivity around,
(34:14):
which is which is really great.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
So you're based in Cambridge and the White Gadow region,
you're having a roiler of the season. You're also you're
a beef farmer, but you're also I guess your main
lovers restore native the nursery, isn't it.
Speaker 10 (34:28):
Yeah, that's it, and we're flat out. We've sort of
come to the end of our tree planning season now
and we're putting up for next season. And yeah, like
sort of any business, it's good to have a little
bit more positivity in the market. But yeah, that's what
I spend most of my time, and yeah, but a
time on the farm. Were just sort of, yeah, sold
some kettle recently and we were getting you know, prime
prices for old cows. It's just an incredible so so yeah,
(34:51):
that's pretty great.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
The dairy farmers must be having a bit of a boomer,
are they.
Speaker 10 (34:55):
Yeah, and they's a that's a great season. It's heaps
of aze going and shrivenouts to our moody this morning
and heats may has gone in soil. It's being made.
We got to the twenty five meals of rain on
the weekend. But yeah, we hate to say that everyone
gets their turn, but we're certainly getting a good turn
edit at the moment. And probably just one thing, if
you don't mind me saying, Jamie, it's a bit of
a shout out for anyone who knew my granddad, Clive Thompson.
(35:17):
It's been a big thing the last couple of weeks
he passed away and it's been interesting reflecting on the nursery.
He was a big man into growing trees and out
there on the farm. So it's good actually sort of
you know, be Kell caught up on the weekend and
talking through the generations where they impact, and I think
they're for a lot of farmers out there.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
You know.
Speaker 10 (35:33):
We're talking about the new people coming forward with the
Zander McDonald Award, and it's cool to see people going
before actually encouraging people into agriculture so so no, a
bit of a shout out to Grandad there.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Yeah, good on you, and a shout out to your
wife Claire Williamson. Along with Emma Higgins. Their new podcast
series is up and underway, Black Heels and Track the
Wheels really good. They're doing a fantastic job profiling New
Zealand women and agriculture. There. The website is Xander McDonald
all one word dot com. You've got till Thursday to apply.
(36:04):
Adam always good to catch up on the country by
good Thanks Jamie, Thanks Adam, and wrapping with some of
your feedback Jamie, any self respecting chip sandwich should have
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(36:27):
Everything in moderation, including moderation, will catch you back tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
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I'm Henery and already eight thire get a New Zealand.
I'm Jamie McKay, not Henry the Eighth. Some people might
say I'm that old. It's good to be back on
(00:40):
the country after a couple of weeks in the States.
I just thought i'd play a wee bit of Herman's
Hermit's simply because when we were in New York we
went to a Broadway production called Six, which is coming
to New Zealand early next year. Go along and have
a look. It's fantastic. It is the story of the
six wives of Henry the Eighth. Right, We're going to
(01:02):
kick off the show today with a man who also
loves the United States. It's a great well there are
divided states. To be perfectly honest, a man who loves
the United States, great country to visit, wouldn't want to
live there, Phil Duncan, we are going to chat to
Kate Scott, a new chief executive of horticulture in New Zealand.
We're launching a bear and some potato chips today on
(01:25):
the country. Mark Delator is the chief executive of Open
Country Dairy, a boomer of the season for all dairy
farmers production wise, apart from in Southland and Adam Thompson.
Entries close on Thursday for the twenty twenty five Xander
McDonald Awards. But no time to waste, Let's get into it.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
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Speaker 3 (01:46):
Henery already a fire.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Weather watch with Elenko passionate about animal health.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Okay, Phil Duncan, I know you've spent a lot of
time in the States. You're a big fan of the country.
Are you like me? Love the country? Wouldn't want to
live there?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, pretty much. Or if I did live there, it
would be a property that I would go and visit
for a certain amount of time of the year and
then come back home here.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
I know I'm a bit guilty of getting being over
the top about the American election, but I just want
to I can't emphasize enough or reinforce enough how important
potentially this is going to be for us here in
New Zealand as a trading nation especially. I put it
to you, Phil, if Donald Trump wins.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, it's a remarkable election.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Really.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
You know, if you were just looking at the stats
and the gut instinct, you'd think there's no way he
could win. But then everybody said that in twenty sixteen
and he did. This one feels different. I still think
that the Democrats are going to win, but I've got
to say, in the last few weeks that has a
road of my confidence of that happening. So it is
going to be an amazing election, really, and I don't
(03:00):
think it will be over by next Wednesday. They may
well be something.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Well, certainly, it certainly won't be over if Trump doesn't win,
He's like a dog with the bone. Interestingly, Kamala Harris
may well win. In fact, she will win the popular vote,
but that matters stuff all. It's seven battleground states that
will decide the election. That's effectively how their electoral college
system works at the moment. It stands. At the moment,
(03:25):
pel Trump's leading in five of those seven states.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Although within the margin of era, and so you know, pillary,
Clinton was up by three points in one of those
states and she lost it. So it shows that if
you were within those two three percent doesn't necessarily help
you work out who's going to win. But I still
think that this, yes, it's going to come under those states,
and those states ten to be more conservative than your
average kind of like New Zealander would be. So it'll
(03:52):
be interesting to see where it goes. But I think
the momentum is behind her, but the polling is certainly
showing its neck and net.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
We had great weather over there. We were on the
Eastern Seaboard for two weeks, not a drop of rain,
blue skies each day and every day. In fact, the
Eastern Seaboard, in fact, a lot of the United States
is now in drought. We're going to talk how that
might play out for New Zealand farmers with Mark de Latour.
But drought is certainly something that hasn't been happening in
(04:21):
my home patch. I've been keeping a keen eye on
what's happening in the South especially, and some of the
snow pictures coming out of Central Otago, for instance, over
the weekend was bizarre.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yeah, yeah, they had with this low pressure zone that formed,
it was deepening over the South Island and at the
same time it was dragging down rain clouds or subtropical
air down into the country and also pulling up sub
Antarctic air, and it just all was sinking and meeting
over that inland part of Canterbury, the Hay Country, and
here you're right up half a meter of snow. I
(04:55):
know that the farmers up there are still dealing with
that today. So it's been quite an event. And speaking
of eastern seaboards, you know, our eastern seaboard and the
eastern side of the North Island is also remarkably dry.
And we're getting a sudden rapid increase in complaints and
questions and concerns coming out of Hawk's Bay about just
how dry it is with soil moisture levels really just
(05:19):
disappearing rapidly with the warmer, hotter, windier weather that we've
been seeing over the last month or two. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Well, I'm looking at that NEE word Drought Index map
and yes, some concerning colors coming out of Hawks Bay.
And the other region is the East Coast obviously Gisbone,
East Coast, Poverty Bay, region.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah, that that eastern side, you know, it is part
of spring. Springs, windy westeries and lack of rain in
those eastern areas tends to do this, So hopefully it's
just part of spring. But the concern going into summer
that I've got is we are still not seeing l'armina.
So if you're banking the farm on Larnina coming in
and bringing rain, I wouldn't be so confident. I don't
(05:59):
think that we're going to necessarily even get Larninia because
the computer modeling out there from all the different governments,
when you combine it suggests that we're actually heading back
towards dal Nino next year. Maybe it's certainly staying in
the neutral zone or going into the neutral zone next year.
We're in neutral now it's leaning towards Larminia. There is
more life and energy up in the tropics, but at
(06:21):
the same time, November is the start of the cyclone
season up there, so it is normal for it to
also be getting more active and energetic. But one last
thing is over in Queensland. Been very dry in Queensland
for the last several months. They've now got rain showing
up and it's a long way away from us, but
whether our air flows lately have been coming out of
Queensland at times. So it's just something to note that
(06:42):
there is a bit of a pattern change going on
around Australia at the moment. So hopefully we will start
to see some change. But for now, going into November,
the windy westerly pattern carries on. Spring carries on because
we are still seeing some really major storms nine to
fifty hectopascal range down over the southern Ocean yep.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
And I know that the West Coast and God made
them capable of handling where they've had plenty of it's
on the West coast and also the south. Will they
catch a break and will some of those areas in
the next week and I'm talking about Hawks Bay East
Coast regions, will they catch a break and get a
bit of rain?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I don't think in the next week or so we're
going to be seeing much change from the pattern we've
had over the last week or two, which is windy
westerly is coming back and again sometimes hot north West
is perhaps a bit cold to southwest for others at
the other end of the southern end of the country,
still seeing plenty of rain coming for the West coast,
still seeing some spill over into Southland at Otago. So
(07:41):
it's the same spring that we've been experiencing carrying on,
which means those in the east and those at the
very top of the North Island and perhaps even the
top of the South Island not likely to see quite
as much wet where they're going through. But like I say,
November is an interesting month. Spring fades away, summer starts
to come in. It'll be very interesting to see what
starts to happen up in the tropics as well.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Got on you, Phil Dunk can always appreciate your time.
From where the watch there is bang on quarter past
twelve year with the country. It is brought to you
by Brandt. Exciting day to day. First day back on
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and some potato chips. Great branding exercise that is Greg
(08:23):
Menzies and Kyle Miller A wee bit later, but up
next the new Chief Executive of Horticulture New Zealand, Kate Scott.
I don't know how she fits all this into a day.
We'll ask her. Mark de Latour on what's happening in
New Zealand production wise. I mentioned South and they're having
a bit of a shaka or have had in September
and October. But some of those other key dairying regions
(08:46):
Taranaki Waikato having an absolute ripper, which is good for them.
They deserve a decent season. And Adam Thompson, he's based
in Cambridge. What a great part of the country that is.
Entries close on Thursday for the twenty twenty five Xander
McDonald Awards. Will tell you all about that before the
end of the hour, Michelle or come in and we'll
(09:07):
do rural news. We've got sports news for you as well.
We'll tell you who the best football player is in
the world.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Five and already a file.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I see you, look you may baby? Can you hear
my heart? It's the old saying, if you want a
job done, ask a busy person. Here's a busy person
who has just taken on another role. She's only been
in it for a week or two. Her name is
Kate Scott. She's the new chief executive of Horticulture. New
is Zellen Kate. How do you squeeze all this into
(09:42):
your day?
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Hi, Jenny, Look, that's a great question. I being the
daughter of a dairy farmer, I'm used to working an
early start time and tend to go late into the
evening sometimes. But looks, for me, it's not about the
time it takes. It's about the pleasure that you get
from being able to contribute, and I guess that's kind
of what motivates me to take on new roles and
(10:07):
new challenges.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Well, you're living in Bannockburn or currently living in Bannicburn,
I think you're going to move to Wellington. You got
the hobby and three kids, idyllic lifestyle. Why would you
want to move to Wellington.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Well, look, I think that's a great question, And some
days I might have questioned whether Wellington's the best placement.
It's very windy and very west yet in Thanet Boom
we have about three hundred mills of rain per year.
But look, I think to serve the HOWT sector, Welles
being based in Wellington is the right decision. But look,
we are going to make sure that we keep a
(10:39):
base in central Otaga and we'll have the vineyard there
for comfort if nothing else.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
So you're keeping the Bannockburn residents, you're keeping the small vineyard.
What about your other business, land Pro. You're a resource
management planner by trade, and in fact, I think that's
where our paths first cross way back when you were
doing an Field scholarship in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Look, like all good businesses that are looking at dealing
with succession, this is part of my pathway for succession.
So I have been looking at moving out of Lampro
in a day to day capacity for a couple of years.
And you know, I'm staying on as a director and
as a shareholder. But the team there are highly capable,
(11:24):
and you know, to be honest, I'm pretty proud that
I can step out of the business and have the
confidence that they are going to a should probably do
a much better job without media interfering all the time.
So look, I'm excited about able to you know, contribute
to the bigger picture through my new role at hauteing Z.
But see, you know, Lampro continue to deliver great things
(11:44):
for its for its clients as well.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Was this job as chief executive of Horta Culture, New
Zealand basically too good an opportunity not to take up.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Look, I think that pretty much sums it up for me.
The opportunity is around how do you can tribute to
the border sector and you know, make a difference to
see you know, the whole of the primary sector for
Born New Zealand and actually flourish. And you know, sometimes
if you want to, you know, make things happen, sometimes
you've just got to put your hand up and try
to be a part of that. And that's what I've
(12:15):
chosen to do.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
You're coming in at a good time. I think of
your predecessor, poor old Nardine Tunney who came and you know,
she had COVID, she had cyclone. Gabrielle, You're coming in
when Kiwi fruit is on a real high and the
likes of apples are looking really good as well.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Look, I'm incredibly grateful to you know, Nadine has done
a fantastic job leading the organization and great Heart and
so I am feeling very very blessed to be able
to take over from all the hard work that she
has done. And you know that the sector is looking
pretty strong at the moment. As you say, We've got
Kiwi fruit and it was great. Last week I had
(12:52):
the opportunity to attend thirty s Garalagan If for nded
KGI celebrating the Kiwi fruit industry, and I tell you
it was an amazing testament to the hard work and
foresight of the leaders in that sector to be able
to set the Keywi fruit industry up for its successes.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
It's reaping today.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Kate Scott with us the Chief Executive or the new
Chief Executive of horticulture in New Zealand. The current government
wants to double primary sector exports in the next decade
and I think of the likes of the dairy industry
and I see it being difficult to double production there
for environmental reasons. If nothing else, are we going to
do this off the back of horticulture.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Look, I saw Horticulture's got a really big role to
play in how we actually meet this lofty goal that
the government has set. But that goal also aligns quite
nicely with horticulture's rter role Horticultural Action Plan, which is
a multi veceted, multi partner strategy that's looking at how
(13:55):
does it double farm gate value of horticulture by twenty
thirty five, And so the two quite nicely aligned. And
I think if we look at some of those tough
challenges we've got out there, around climate related challenges, environmental challenges.
I think diversification of land use and growth with in
the horticultural sector is going to be a really important
(14:16):
part to our future prosperity.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Yeah, and good luck in the role you will play
over the next few years. Kate Scott, Horticulture in New
Zealand's new chief executive. Let's keep in touch.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Thanks, Jammie, appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Thank you, Kate. Twenty four after twelve you are with
the country, brought to you by brand. Very shortly, we're
going to launch some beer. I love Bear. That's a
poignant pause there, Michelle, what who's wandered into the studio? Now?
I love beer and I love coffee. And that's the
(14:49):
first thing I did when I got back into New
Zealand was go to the Kuri Lounge in Auckland and
grab a coffee because the American coffee sucks and the
Bear is not as good as ours either, nothing like MS.
But we're launching a new beer today and some new
potato chips.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Now.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
I did send you and you and Jane in a
private message a photo of myself in a new Trump hat.
It's actually a Trump hat I've bought for my son.
I didn't expect you to publish it on Facebook, but
I hang on, I'll tell I shouldn't turn your microphone
on your your job is under severe threat. Where is
(15:25):
your microphone? I don't know how to work this. Tests
there we go. Try that one Alo Michelle. Hello, right,
I've got you now. So that was meant to be
a private communication. I may sue you if I was
in America at the moment where they're very litigious. Is
that the word? I would probably see you?
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (15:40):
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with our listeners. It's it's such a great pitch and
already it's it's going to fair bit attraction. If you
want to go have a lot, go check out our
Facebook page. The Hat is The Hat is Magnificent.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
And I did a video also because I went to
like New York, Boston, and Washington, all of which been before,
but I had never been to Philadelphia, which is sort
of halfway between New York and Washington. You do it
on the speed train. It's a great way to travel.
All I went there for because honestly, there's not that
much in Philadelphia. I went there to run up the
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rocky stairs.
Speaker 8 (16:14):
I'm kind of disappointed to hear that there's not much there.
I was. I would have been excited to stop in Philly.
I haven't actually been there, but the stairs you.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Yeah, yeah, that was the main thing. Anyhow, let's get
on to it up next, we're going to admit a
week today, I think, because I'm trying to work all
this out myself. I'm just you know, that first day
back on the job. We've got a new beer and
we've got some potato chips. They are to die for.
I'll tell you that one for nothing. Greg Menzi's Cayle
Miller Up next, Mark Delatour out of Open Country Dairy.
(16:45):
What a Trump victory could mean for you New Zealand
Dairy Farmers and Adam Thompson are entries closing on Thursday
for the twenty twenty five Sanda McDonald Award.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
Well you can hear this.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
First day back on the tools here on the country,
and what a great show I've chosen to make a
reappearance on because we're launching the Farmer's Poor Bear or
with Emerson's and the Farmers Chips with their friend from
Heartland Ships. Now. Heartland Ships have been about since twenty
ten makes them fourteen years of age. Here at the Country,
(17:25):
we've blown out thirty candles a bit earlier in the year,
but I can't hold a candle to Emerson's who were
celebrating thirty two years in the game. Hey, Greg, Emerson's
Greg Emerson, let me that was a fraudy and slip.
Let me try Greg Mensi's from Emerson's. Your second name, Mayles,
will be Emerson's Greg. You are the voice of Emerson's
here on the Country. Tell me about the collaboration because
(17:46):
you drove this with the guys from Heartland Chips.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
Well, yeah, when we first heard about the Heartland Chips
were a good client of the Country, we thought, let's
get in touch with them and see what we can
do about joining together. Because Bear and Chips what a
perfect match.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Absolutely, And I'm a bit of a fan of the
old Heartland Chips. And Kyle Miller joins assist the commercial manager.
And one of the reasons, or probably the main reason
I'm a fan of the Heartland ships. I love the
flat ship, the big crisp crunchy flat chip.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Well, we actually made those chips especially for you, Jane,
all right. They're actually really, really special so we're really
glad to hear you like them. And they snuck out
into the market last week and the feedbacks been absolutely
autumn on them.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Well, I got messages while I was in the States,
as I say, first day back on the tools from
people are going, what's your ugly marg doing on the
front of a track there on the front of a
chip packet.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
I think that's what's telling them, Jamie.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
I don't think so. Now there's three flavors, Kyle Miller.
There's salt and vinegar, which is your absolute go to
this green onion and I had a sample before I
left of them of the maple bacon that was really good.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
Oh yeah, So making bacon is one of the ones
that we sort of do sort of a unique flavor
to Heartland, and we thought, well, if we're going to
do a co lab with both Emerson's and the Country,
we have to come up with flavors that everyone's going
to love. But something that's a little bit more unique,
just like Emerson's was their beer. So maple bacon was
(19:23):
no brainer for us.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Greg Menzies, I apologize for calling you Greg Emerson's. Greg Menzies,
We've matched these Heartland chips up with a beer. It's
called the Farmer's Poor. Tell me about that.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
Yeah, so we had a difficult job because Heartland brought
out three different flavors and it was really hard to
bring up three different beers. So we've produced a beer
called Farmers Poor Extra Crispy pale Ale, and the beer
goes with all three different flavors. It's the perfect pal
al and nice and crispy to go off the crispy chips.
(20:00):
And yeah, it was beautiful.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
What sort of percentage are we talking here? Because, as
I say, in the States, I tried a lot of bears,
none of them anywhere near as good as your stuff
at Emerson's. But they do do some high percentas over there.
You've got to be careful.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
You do have to be careful. Their tax laws are
a bit different over there, so they can get their
high alcohol down in price a bit more than we can.
But the Farmer's Poor as five point four percent, so
perfect session will bere.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
A crispy pale ale to die for? Okay, Kyle, I
thought we were launching this today, but they've been in
the supermarkets. I think launched last week. I couldn't believe
how many messages they got on the States about the chips.
What's the feedback you've been getting and what's the favorite,
what's the early favorite?
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Well, funny enough, Well, the thing was it was the
South Island supermarkets that obviously just couldn't wait and they
released it early to the stores and so probably no
surprise in the South Island green Onions actually coming out
on top at the moment, which is no surprises. A
real Southern flavor that day. One thing's to enjoy down here, So.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Maple bacon, green onion, salt and vinegart They are the
chips from Heartland from Emerson's, we've got the extra crispy
pal al Greg. On Tuesday, Melbourne Cup Day, we're going
to do a bit of a launch at Emerson's around lunchtime.
Tell me how that plays out.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
So from eleven thirty, I think we're going to start
the launch and we're going to be having your show
produce live from Emerson's from twelve o'clock and then afterwards
we're going to try the Heartland chips. The farmers cut
chips in a chip sandwich mad with traditional Kiwi dip.
(21:39):
It's a delicacy.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Well, if it's a chip sandwich.
Speaker 6 (21:43):
This has to be white bread, definitely white bread. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
we have to. We have to go a little bit unhealthy.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
For this one, just this one day, Kyle, you up
for that? Are you up for a chip sandwich?
Speaker 5 (21:55):
I think you're great. I think they're going to elevate
our chips to a whole new level. I'm actually looking
forward to it.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Hey, Kyle, it was great to meet with you and
Raymond Bowen. So Raymond's the South Canterbury farmer who came
up with the idea of Heartland Hips and we had
a great day filming some videos there or a couple
of months ago, so I'm sure Raymond. Hopefully Raymond will
be joining us as well in Dunedin and I think Greg,
we're also having a launch in Auckland and the Big
(22:21):
Smoke Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
I think that's on the nineteenth of November. Yeah, and
the morning so Tavern. So yeah, we'll do it all
over again.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
More about that in the weeks to come. But Kyle
Miller from Heartland Chips commercial manager. Greg Mensi's from Emerson's
marketing manager. Hey, thanks for your time, guys, look forward
to seeing you this time in a week's time from today.
And we'll be broadcasting live from Emerson's here in Dunedin.
Thanks for your time, Gadi, Thanks Janning Wade, thank you.
(22:52):
Thanks guys. Yeah, and you can join us. We'll tell
you how you can do that next Tuesday. For lunch
a bear, Well you can have the bear, but you
have a chip sandwich white bread chips and does it
get any better than that? Up next, talking about the chips,
Michelle's just wandered in with a bag of farmer's cut
(23:15):
Sultan vinegar chips. Are going to try those in the
break we'll be back with Rural News and sports news.
You've got a lovely door, all right, welcome back to
the country. Excuse me, I've got a mouthful of Sultan
(23:36):
vinegar farmers cut chips. My goodness there God all right, well,
I try and swallow those. Michelle. You can buy me
some time by doing Rural News.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
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Speaker 8 (23:57):
You like you're enjoying that. I'm sort of hogging him
over there in the corner.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Can you hear that? Crunch.
Speaker 8 (24:02):
They're good chips. There is a rule about eating on
the radio, but I think this exception.
Speaker 9 (24:05):
Right.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
I'm the one who I had to tell your predecessor
off on numerous occasions no eating in the studio. We'll
make an excuse this time for commercial reasons, right, isn't
it right?
Speaker 7 (24:16):
So over the weekend of course AMP show season has started.
Hawks Bay amp Show was in Hastings on Friday and
they had the great reharnt Rai Phania Shares and of
course we've got the winners here, so Gavin Much one
that event, and second I think was John Kirkpatrick, and
third was Brock Hamilton and fourth was actually a fellow
(24:38):
from Gore Lionel tarmative of Core.
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Speaker 3 (24:46):
The chips are so thick and crunching and they're flat.
They're not crinkled, they're flat. New Zealand Rugby's denying reports
they've had internal discussions with Warrior's boss Cameron George for
their commercial chief executive role. And Manchester midfielder Rodri has
been recognized as the world's best men's player at Football's
(25:07):
Ballendor Awards in Paris. Up next, what could a Trump
victory in the States mean for New Zealand dairy farmers.
It's Mark Delatour. A symbol of his name is Mark Delatour.
He's the chief executive of Open Country Dairy and Mark.
(25:29):
When I was in the States, I was reading a
really interesting article in the New York Times about what
potentially could happen to the US dairy industry if Trump
gets elected Because in the big milk producing states such
as Idaho, basically all the labor is Mexican, and a
lot of that labor is illegal. Trump's threatening to send
(25:52):
them back home on day one. What ramifications could that
have for the New Zealand airy industry. Good afternoon, by
the way, Yeah, go afternoon, Jamie.
Speaker 9 (26:02):
Yeah, it's interesting, isn't it. I mean, I would suggest
there's going to be a lot more than that one
topic that's changed if Trump with the election.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Jamie.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
But I mean it's true.
Speaker 9 (26:12):
You know, I've lived in the States, and certainly that
type of labor is available throughout the States, and it
subsidizes those industries. So I look, at the end of
the day, their cost of production will lift they'll have
to pay because properly, and you know, probably not a
bad thing. Certainly not a bad thing for New Zealand
(26:32):
in that instance, Jamy.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
The other interesting thing about the States at the moment
is especially the eastern seaboard where I was, is in
a prolonged drought. They've been through summer, they're into their
fall we call it autumn, and they're desperately dry. So
that again could play into the hands of New Zealand farmers,
not only dairy farmers, but also beef farmers.
Speaker 9 (26:55):
Well, it's the opposite of what we're seeing here, isn't it.
I guess. I was talking to my car and just
on the phone last night and he's near Wirral and
he said it's getting a little bit dry there. But
I would say he's a lone voice.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
You know.
Speaker 9 (27:09):
We spent three weeks going around New Zealand, Jamie, talking
to our supplies, and there's not too many of them
that are complaining about lack water, you know, so certainly
the opposite if they're drying out, We've got plenty of
rain down here, which has float onto milk production generally.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Now, I know a few Southland farmers who are complaining
about the water. I eat too much of it. I've
had a terrible September October, Yeah.
Speaker 9 (27:34):
They have, and it's I mean, such an important crucial
area for open country, that Southland area south and then
Otago for that matter. But if you look back in August,
if I remember my numbers wrote, they were about twenty
two percent up on the year prior in August and
hanging on the back of two strong years before that,
(27:55):
so it was looking really, really good. And now if
you look at September October game or two halves, you know,
they've just been hammered by rain and cold down there.
And I think looking at it, we're probably operating at
about three hundred thousand liters a day less than we're
expecting right now. So you had a tough whole time
down there while you've been sunning yourself in the States journey.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Oh and it was very sunny and very hot, never
saw a drop of rain, blue skies for two weeks
in a row. Look the key I mean, the other
key dairying regions in this country obviously the Waikato, Taranaki, Canterbury,
and I'll go with those two North Island ones not
so much irrigation there as there is in Canterbury. But
(28:38):
they're having very good seasons.
Speaker 9 (28:40):
Oh, really really strong, Jamie. I think milk flows into
our two Waykato sites and our site Monganui that services
Manam two and Taranaki are record breaking, to be honest,
record breaking. And in the Waikato, as you know, we
are now collecting for the fifty four farms that supply
(29:01):
s late North Island. Then yeah, add onto the top
and our factories are running and running hard. So it's
it's it's good if you're running a factory, that's that's
for sure. There's a fair bit of milk around.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
How are you going to find a home for all
the milk? All this all these milk products? And are
we still looking at nine dollars?
Speaker 9 (29:21):
You've been trying to get me to call nine dollars
for months now, Jamie. But look, I think it is
an interesting of the first challenges New Zealanders need to
stop telling the world how much milk we're producing. That's
never a smart thing to do. So you know, we
are having a strong season and that's positive. I think
five or six percent up on volumes is a good
(29:41):
thing for everyone's costs. We just need to make sure
we've got it well sold and good plans ahead. So
you know, I think that the markets are firm. This
good demand. The only thing that we're a little bit
conservative on, Jamie, and that you know the reason we're
not calling Elgare Team U nine that you want me
to desperately. As you know, China is really driven right now.
(30:06):
Their ordering is driven by lack of inventory. So as
we know, they haven't bought well for a last couple
of seasons and their invageries are running low, so that's
triggering some buying now pre Chinese New Year. I'd be
a bit more confident if we saw their demand their
consumer usage being high at the same time, because short
inventries can be can be counted with a purchase, strong
(30:31):
demand requires multiple purchases, So we're just being a little
bit conservative. But by goodness, it's compared to the last
two seasons that their industry is looking strong.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Yeah, I think we'll take it. And what happens in
the States in eight days time our time is going
to have a huge influence on China and world trade,
so we'll keep a wary eye on that one. A
Mark Dlator out of Open Country Dairy. Always good to
catch up.
Speaker 9 (31:00):
Thanks Jenny.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
The eighth time.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Thursday, the thirty first of October is closing day for
applications for the twenty twenty five Well It will be
announced in twenty twenty five Xander McDonald Award or Awards.
Here's a finalist from twenty twenty two. And she's tough going,
isn't it, Adam Thompson, with all you do in New
Zealand agriculture along with your wife Claire Williamson, we might
(31:26):
come back to her, but you got pipped at the
post by Rhys Roberts in twenty twenty two. She's a
tough one to win the Zander McDonald Award.
Speaker 10 (31:35):
Yeah, there's certainly a lot of honor in it and
for me just a real privilege to be a finalist
in it, you know. And yet wouldn't be an interview
on the Country without being reminded that Reese Pitney.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
I'm sorry about that, but you know, I think of
a guy like Tim dangin another regular here on the Country,
like yourself, and when his name went forward for the
twenty twenty four awards this year, I thought, well Hill
was home, but he didn't. In the end, he got
beaten by Nancy crawl Shaw, and of course Nancy's far
fart part. Let me rephrase that of a very high
(32:06):
achieving farming family, the crawl Shaw family as well. So
it's just it's just bringing the cream to the top
in this country.
Speaker 10 (32:15):
And that's the real strength for it, you know, in
terms of encouraging people to get stuck in and get
their application. And it's not about winning it and putting
a trophy on the shelf. It's actually about being a
part of something really special, a great group of mentors,
a great group of people and even just the other
finalists from other years and the alumni is quite active
and being in that if you can make it through
to being a finalist, you're actually part of something and
(32:36):
you get to be involved in that group and it
encourages you to do more and have the support to
do more. So it's not actually it's not necessarily a
recognition of where you've been. It's actually opportunity to go further.
And I think that's something that's really special about this
particular award.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Now in twenty twenty two, when you entered res Roberts,
as you said, came through. He's the boss of a
line farms there from mid Canterbury, but Olivia Weatherburn, good
South lond Katie Vickers as well, do you step Do
you keep in touch with these people?
Speaker 7 (33:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (33:04):
We do, Like we had a chat group started as
soon as we who came find us and regularly we'll
be in there chatting to each other. And also the
alumni is going to really active Facebook page and we
have Zoom catchups as well and obviously the yearly conference
where we all get together. But it's just one of
those places you can put out to a lot of
very intelligent people and go, hey, here's a question, you know,
(33:25):
can you help.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Me with us?
Speaker 10 (33:26):
And everyone's so keen to learn and guide each other
along with it too, which is bloody fantastic.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
So applications closing on Thursday. The website is Xander McDonald
Award dot com to apply and to find out more
and we would encourage people obviously to enter this. Adam
will I've got you. He used to be a mortgage broker.
Does your wife run that business?
Speaker 7 (33:50):
Now?
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Clear?
Speaker 9 (33:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (33:52):
So Claiar and Hannah they run they run the mortgage
business and Clei's probably a little bit like me. She's
out there doing a bunch of other stuff and having
plenty of fun too. But yeah, that's that's interesting with
interest rates coming down and a lot more activity. But
there's there's plenty going on in the White It at
the moment sort of you know, speaking off earlier about
the season we have in here is absolutely exceptional. Is
a lot more buoyancy I think, and sort of positivity around,
(34:14):
which is which is really great.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
So you're based in Cambridge and the White Gadow region,
you're having a roiler of the season. You're also you're
a beef farmer, but you're also I guess your main
lovers restore native the nursery, isn't it.
Speaker 10 (34:28):
Yeah, that's it, and we're flat out. We've sort of
come to the end of our tree planning season now
and we're putting up for next season. And yeah, like
sort of any business, it's good to have a little
bit more positivity in the market. But yeah, that's what
I spend most of my time, and yeah, but a
time on the farm. Were just sort of, yeah, sold
some kettle recently and we were getting you know, prime
prices for old cows. It's just an incredible so so yeah,
(34:51):
that's pretty great.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
The dairy farmers must be having a bit of a boomer,
are they.
Speaker 10 (34:55):
Yeah, and they's a that's a great season. It's heaps
of aze going and shrivenouts to our moody this morning
and heats may has gone in soil. It's being made.
We got to the twenty five meals of rain on
the weekend. But yeah, we hate to say that everyone
gets their turn, but we're certainly getting a good turn
edit at the moment. And probably just one thing, if
you don't mind me saying, Jamie, it's a bit of
a shout out for anyone who knew my granddad, Clive Thompson.
(35:17):
It's been a big thing the last couple of weeks
he passed away and it's been interesting reflecting on the nursery.
He was a big man into growing trees and out
there on the farm. So it's good actually sort of
you know, be Kell caught up on the weekend and
talking through the generations where they impact, and I think
they're for a lot of farmers out there.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
You know.
Speaker 10 (35:33):
We're talking about the new people coming forward with the
Zander McDonald Award, and it's cool to see people going
before actually encouraging people into agriculture so so no, a
bit of a shout out to Grandad there.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Yeah, good on you, and a shout out to your
wife Claire Williamson. Along with Emma Higgins. Their new podcast
series is up and underway, Black Heels and Track the
Wheels really good. They're doing a fantastic job profiling New
Zealand women and agriculture. There. The website is Xander McDonald
all one word dot com. You've got till Thursday to apply.
(36:04):
Adam always good to catch up on the country by
good Thanks Jamie, Thanks Adam, and wrapping with some of
your feedback Jamie, any self respecting chip sandwich should have
marmite and or cheese. Don't know about that one. And
some cool joy has texted in junk food and toxic booze.
No wonder we're all so fat, weak and sick and
in your case text are probably a really boring person.
(36:27):
Everything in moderation, including moderation, will catch you back tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Catch you're the latest from the land. It's the Country
podcast with Jamie McGue Thanks to Brent You're specialist in
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