November 13, 2024 • 7 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
International rugby coverage on the country. Sport Breakfast is proudly
brought to you by Access Solutions, elevating you and your
business to a higher level. Well, the Northern Tour for
the All Blacks continues to roll on now and the
games don't get any easier. We've dispatched England, We've dispatched Japan,
We've dispatched Ireland twenty three to thirteen. That was a
(00:21):
good win in Dublin last weekend and now standing in
our way, a clean sweet really of the French. Gregor
Paul joins.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Us out of Paris.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Bonjour, Gregor, I don't think the French are going to
be an easy pushover, really, are they?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
No? I wouldn't have thought so. Yeah, Look, you're right.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
There's an incredibly tough itinery that the All Blacks have
taken on, you know, England, Ireland, France.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
And consecutive weeks. They've already had two.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
But the game last week probably wasn't quite as tough
and as intense as many of us were predicting, but
it would have taken a few longs out of them.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Clearly, there's a.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Few injuries, a bit of an emotional toll and now
they come in to face the French team that they're
probably a pretty good place actually because they've had one
game under their belts against Japan, unlike Ireland, who hadn't
played anyone.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Before the All Blacks played them.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
And I think, you know, this time of year around,
remember it's Sunday, quite an emotional time for both teams.
So I'm expecting this game to give the the firecracker
element that we didn't quite get in Dublin.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I saw the photographs of our number seven, same Caine
rather same Kine on the weekend. Get he got beaten
up badly, didn't he?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah? Wow?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Then I looked at that cut and went, oh, I
don't think i'd want.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
To play this game. It looks kind of rough.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Yeah he Yeah, he took a bit of a pounding
as a nasty cat. Mark Tulay's injured. I think he's
got a hand injury. I think that the bigger question
will be you know, at the end, this is no
excuse me making numberhalf of the All Blacks, by the way,
but there's a reality to this is what game thirteen.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
These guys have been on the goal? Shouldn't mid fib
playing super rugby that is tough.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
You know, we know when the Northern teams come down
in July at the end of a very long season
for them, they can sometimes battle you know, and those
in that penultimate and ultimate game that.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
They have to play.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
So there's no doubt that you know, these guys have
been bashed around for quite some time and that, in
many ways is the challenge for them this Saturday is
to dig deep and find one more big effort.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Do you can you see many changes coming when the
team's announced tomorrow morning our time, well.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Not well other than the injury enforced changes with Kine
and Tall they are unavailable, but Barrett and Cody Taylor
available who weren't available in Dublin, so that there may
be some changes around there.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I don't think so. I think they'll have a gauge.
They'll be.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
The one thing that they'll be wary about is you know,
how much guess the various people have in the tank.
That's what they'll be trying to question. I would imagine
there'll be a lot of changes next week when they
play Italy. So for the frontline, top players, I think
this will be viewed as their last hurrah, if you
know what I mean, so they might try and eke
(03:19):
out as much as they can from as many players
that played in Dublin, because that's clearly they're favoring that
now as their preferred team. If there are any changes,
I'm wondering if they might do something like start Patrick
two Plotto put to Purvai on the bench, really just
out of a freshness argument that you know, Patrick hasn't
(03:40):
played as much two Po's had a long season. You know,
is it time just to start the other guy and
give him a bit longer than to Wallace. Ceitidi has
been absolutely brilliant, but he's a young kid. He hasn't
played at this level before. You know, can they get
another eighteen minutes out of him? Or is there a
danger that they burn them out? So these will be
the things that they'll be asking, but I think they'll
probably fancy that most of the guys that played in
(04:03):
Dublin have probably got one more big effort left in them.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I enjoyed reading your article that appeared in the back
page of The Herold yesterday. Rico, you only going from
world class wing to a superb world class center, and
basically I think he was fired up taking on Ireland
after the little personal feud that he had going, wasn't he.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Do you think cheaper? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Look, I mean it's quite a ballsy effort, isn't it,
Because he's got the whole of Ireland wanting them to
take his head off after what he said last year.
He then he didn't back away from any of his
social media stuff before the game.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
He was quite happy to stir it up and he
enjoyed being the center of attention.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Pun very much intended, but he led the hacker and
that seemed to really kind of set the tone about
what All Blacks wanted to do. And I thought he
had his best game as an All Black because he
did everything well, not just defend well, which I think
he's done all year. I thought he'd brought some subtle touches.
He knew when to pass, when to hold his energy
(05:06):
around the field. Probably frustrated Ireland because everywhere they wanted
to be, he showed up and stopped them. And I
found him quite compelling and I love the way that
he played up to the crowd. He made himself the
pantomime villain and he played up to and you know,
good on him.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
That works.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Don't poke the Beer.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Well, I think it wouldn't work for everyone.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I wouldn't suggest that everyone goes around behaving like that,
but for him it obviously did work. He's bold enough
to give it and he knew he was going to
take it in return.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
He knew Ireland were coming after on which they were.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
By the way, there was a few clunky, big hits
on him when he had the ball, but he kept
bouncing up and he kept coming back at them, and
you've got to quite enjoy how he behaved and how
he performed.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
The French will be a different story on Sunday morning.
You'll be on the call with Elliot Smith. How do
you see it going?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Yeah, tough one because the French are in a little
bit of state of flax. And then they went out
to Argentina in July and they weren't great. They had
a number of all field, serious off field problems. There's
been some concerns in France about you know how deep
some of those problems run through their club network, and
we're and we're talking you know, police matters here. So
(06:21):
it's hard to get a gauge on on where the
French are at post World Cup because you have to
remember This was a team that was geared towards winning
the twenty three World Cup in their own backyard. Everything
about them was was angled in or that, and it
didn't happen for them. And you don't know where the French,
whether they've got the ability to pick themselves up, refocus
and go, Okay, we didn't win our own World Cup,
(06:43):
but this team we're going to reset it and we're
going to come back and win the next one, or
whether they've kind of imploded a little bit without that
kind of motivation or that desire to to you know,
to be winning their own their own World Cup, which
is a huge thing for the French to play in
front of their own people. So I don't think anyone's
quite got a handled on. They were a bit of
a mixed bag in the Six Nations. They've beaten Japan
(07:05):
quite easily last week. But mcgut field will be pretty good.
I mean they've got to pont In the team back,
So with him on the field, you'd be feeling, yeah,
you'd want to take them pretty seriously out of thought.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Yeah, absolutely, Well, Gregor, will let you go and get
a plate of Vesco goes and join Elliott and we'll
listen for your call on Sunday morning on the Country
Trusted Mechanics
International rugby coverage on the country. Sport Breakfast is proudly
brought to you by Access Solutions, elevating you and your
business to a higher level. Well, the Northern Tour for
the All Blacks continues to roll on now and the
games don't get any easier. We've dispatched England, We've dispatched Japan,
We've dispatched Ireland twenty three to thirteen. That was a
(00:21):
good win in Dublin last weekend and now standing in
our way, a clean sweet really of the French. Gregor
Paul joins.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Us out of Paris.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Bonjour, Gregor, I don't think the French are going to
be an easy pushover, really, are they?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
No? I wouldn't have thought so. Yeah, Look, you're right.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
There's an incredibly tough itinery that the All Blacks have
taken on, you know, England, Ireland, France.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
And consecutive weeks. They've already had two.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
But the game last week probably wasn't quite as tough
and as intense as many of us were predicting, but
it would have taken a few longs out of them.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Clearly, there's a.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Few injuries, a bit of an emotional toll and now
they come in to face the French team that they're
probably a pretty good place actually because they've had one
game under their belts against Japan, unlike Ireland, who hadn't
played anyone.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Before the All Blacks played them.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
And I think, you know, this time of year around,
remember it's Sunday, quite an emotional time for both teams.
So I'm expecting this game to give the the firecracker
element that we didn't quite get in Dublin.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I saw the photographs of our number seven, same Caine
rather same Kine on the weekend. Get he got beaten
up badly, didn't he?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah? Wow?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Then I looked at that cut and went, oh, I
don't think i'd want.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
To play this game. It looks kind of rough.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Yeah he Yeah, he took a bit of a pounding
as a nasty cat. Mark Tulay's injured. I think he's
got a hand injury. I think that the bigger question
will be you know, at the end, this is no
excuse me making numberhalf of the All Blacks, by the way,
but there's a reality to this is what game thirteen.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
These guys have been on the goal? Shouldn't mid fib
playing super rugby that is tough.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
You know, we know when the Northern teams come down
in July at the end of a very long season
for them, they can sometimes battle you know, and those
in that penultimate and ultimate game that.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
They have to play.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
So there's no doubt that you know, these guys have
been bashed around for quite some time and that, in
many ways is the challenge for them this Saturday is
to dig deep and find one more big effort.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Do you can you see many changes coming when the
team's announced tomorrow morning our time, well.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Not well other than the injury enforced changes with Kine
and Tall they are unavailable, but Barrett and Cody Taylor
available who weren't available in Dublin, so that there may
be some changes around there.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I don't think so. I think they'll have a gauge.
They'll be.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
The one thing that they'll be wary about is you know,
how much guess the various people have in the tank.
That's what they'll be trying to question. I would imagine
there'll be a lot of changes next week when they
play Italy. So for the frontline, top players, I think
this will be viewed as their last hurrah, if you
know what I mean, so they might try and eke
(03:19):
out as much as they can from as many players
that played in Dublin, because that's clearly they're favoring that
now as their preferred team. If there are any changes,
I'm wondering if they might do something like start Patrick
two Plotto put to Purvai on the bench, really just
out of a freshness argument that you know, Patrick hasn't
(03:40):
played as much two Po's had a long season. You know,
is it time just to start the other guy and
give him a bit longer than to Wallace. Ceitidi has
been absolutely brilliant, but he's a young kid. He hasn't
played at this level before. You know, can they get
another eighteen minutes out of him? Or is there a
danger that they burn them out? So these will be
the things that they'll be asking, but I think they'll
probably fancy that most of the guys that played in
(04:03):
Dublin have probably got one more big effort left in them.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I enjoyed reading your article that appeared in the back
page of The Herold yesterday. Rico, you only going from
world class wing to a superb world class center, and
basically I think he was fired up taking on Ireland
after the little personal feud that he had going, wasn't he.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Do you think cheaper? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Look, I mean it's quite a ballsy effort, isn't it,
Because he's got the whole of Ireland wanting them to
take his head off after what he said last year.
He then he didn't back away from any of his
social media stuff before the game.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
He was quite happy to stir it up and he
enjoyed being the center of attention.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Pun very much intended, but he led the hacker and
that seemed to really kind of set the tone about
what All Blacks wanted to do. And I thought he
had his best game as an All Black because he
did everything well, not just defend well, which I think
he's done all year. I thought he'd brought some subtle touches.
He knew when to pass, when to hold his energy
(05:06):
around the field. Probably frustrated Ireland because everywhere they wanted
to be, he showed up and stopped them. And I
found him quite compelling and I love the way that
he played up to the crowd. He made himself the
pantomime villain and he played up to and you know,
good on him.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
That works.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Don't poke the Beer.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Well, I think it wouldn't work for everyone.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I wouldn't suggest that everyone goes around behaving like that,
but for him it obviously did work. He's bold enough
to give it and he knew he was going to
take it in return.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
He knew Ireland were coming after on which they were.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
By the way, there was a few clunky, big hits
on him when he had the ball, but he kept
bouncing up and he kept coming back at them, and
you've got to quite enjoy how he behaved and how
he performed.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
The French will be a different story on Sunday morning.
You'll be on the call with Elliot Smith. How do
you see it going?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Yeah, tough one because the French are in a little
bit of state of flax. And then they went out
to Argentina in July and they weren't great. They had
a number of all field, serious off field problems. There's
been some concerns in France about you know how deep
some of those problems run through their club network, and
we're and we're talking you know, police matters here. So
(06:21):
it's hard to get a gauge on on where the
French are at post World Cup because you have to
remember This was a team that was geared towards winning
the twenty three World Cup in their own backyard. Everything
about them was was angled in or that, and it
didn't happen for them. And you don't know where the French,
whether they've got the ability to pick themselves up, refocus
and go, Okay, we didn't win our own World Cup,
(06:43):
but this team we're going to reset it and we're
going to come back and win the next one, or
whether they've kind of imploded a little bit without that
kind of motivation or that desire to to you know,
to be winning their own their own World Cup, which
is a huge thing for the French to play in
front of their own people. So I don't think anyone's
quite got a handled on. They were a bit of
a mixed bag in the Six Nations. They've beaten Japan
(07:05):
quite easily last week. But mcgut field will be pretty good.
I mean they've got to pont In the team back,
So with him on the field, you'd be feeling, yeah,
you'd want to take them pretty seriously out of thought.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Yeah, absolutely, Well, Gregor, will let you go and get
a plate of Vesco goes and join Elliott and we'll
listen for your call on Sunday morning on the Country
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