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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
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Speaker 3 (00:32):
I'm glen Hand today.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
The old supermarket.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Competitions carry on keeps carrying on.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Have you ever woken up to discover that the electric
urine no longer exists?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
And how old is Winston Peters? That's the fun game
we're playing today.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
But before any of that at Wellington Council, how many
reports will it take before we get one that says,
let's just ditch it now?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Lindsay McKenzie, you're still busy at work now you've forgotten
his name because, like so much news these days, hot
stuff until it isn't. Lindsay's the bloke that was appointed
to watch over Wellington Council because of their dysfunction. He's
just written his second report. His first report seems sort
of sympathetic to my eye anyway. Ah, yes, they were
a mess, but they were decent sort of people, that
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sort of thing. His second report seems to suggest not
a lot is getting better. Some counselors have continued, He writes,
their criticism of each other, and officers are suspected of
leaking information. He also says the community is that it's
wits end his words, not mine, wits end over infrastructure,
although most of that comes from the same complainers. He's
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also noted since his first report, there's been several incidences
that have given rise to concerns about the organization's ability
to function. Now the question I have has given the
place is still to be found wanting what next. So
you might remember the minister at the time, simming In
Brown put this bloke in as the least and trusive
option as opposed to a full commissioner or set of commissioners.
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So far, so bad. So is he going to do
anything about any of this? Or is poor old Lindsay
set to write reports for the rest of his life.
In the report, though I found a nugget of gold,
he recommends a review of the Local Government Act in
relation to the qualification for and capability to hold office. Yes, yes, yes, yes, please,
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let's actually treat these jobs as jobs, as opposed to
devils or fascinations or fiftoms let's actually require people to
God forbid have some skills. Now, the idea you can
just put your name for it for a job of
such responsibility is absurd, beyond belief, of course. And when
any idiot can have a crack, guess what you get,
Wellington is what you get. So let's get a bit
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of professionalism and then let's put a bit of hift
behind the job. Let's get some talent in the room.
If that recommendation has acted on, and I have no
doubt it won't be because why would you fix anything
when you get ignore it? But if that was run
with Lindsey would deserve, if not, a knighthood, certainly keys
to a vastly better run city.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Do you again, knighthoods for unclustering a cluster, because that's
basically why they're.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Maybe you do so rewrap.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Now this whole supermarket deopoly situation, are we any closer
to a clustering that cluster?
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Best piece of reading, I haven't got to Duncan web
Duncan Webb's a Labor Party MP and he's been on
social media talking about supermarket And this is where this
thing's going to go wrong. Because poor old Barbara Edmonds
was getting a pasting in the house yesterday once again
because she butchered the pppiece public Private partnerships, and so
they were sort of going, well, we kind of like
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public private partnerships, but sometimes we don't, and then when
we do, they might not work. And so it went on,
and then she went on to explain that she needed
to explain it differently to different audiences, so the whole
thing became a complete cluster until she eventually apologized for
all the confusion. And that's before you get to Ginny's
performance on this program last week about the charter school
and whether or not they were going to get canceled.
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And then you've got Duncan Web who's been on social
media talking about a supermarket in his local area, which
is nearer I haven't done well in christ Duty called
edgewhere because Manana used to live in Eage where an
I was just down the roads in Albans and you'd
go up to the edge where area and wear these
shops and these days it's all supermarkets and it's a
big sort of built up area. But anyway, they want
to put a new supermarket in each where. But Duncan's
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busy on social media, going well, no, I don't support
a new supermarket. Everyone's going, what we need more supermarkets? Oh,
I support a new supermarket, but we're not having any
public consultation because of this fast track business. We need
to have public consultation. And everyone goes, well, the public
consultation would be we want more supermarkets dunk and he goes, well,
we don't know that until we have the public consultation. Well,
don't you support the supermarket, dunk it. Oh, I support
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the supermarket, but we just have the public consultation. So
you can see where these people go so hopelessly wrong.
It's all theory, no reality.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Wall paper by committee, I think, is what ends up
happening if you let too many.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
People have a say.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
But then if you don't let enough people have a say,
then it's not democratic.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Oh that's tricky a re wrap.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Anyway, it seemed only fair to let Duncan himself have
his say.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I mentioned Duncan and his supermarket fascination. Each where here
is Duncan in each where?
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Did I I'm Duncan. We'd you like we'd free turda.
I'm pulling Crotta and you're like, oh, don sten we're
here because Will Wars is putting a big B supermarket
over on the Dress Street, and we're standing here today
and the heart at Edgeway Villain, and we want you
to be in primmed about this development. And because it's
on past track, or it could be on past track,
you might not be able to have your say, so
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cheap an eye are in the comments and elsewhere to
see if this is going to be publicly notified.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
In contact Duncan on me if you have any queries
at all, at which point he does a big double
thumbs up.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
He's the sort of guy who would do a double
thumbs up if I see it as Duncan, the sort
of bloke who would give you a double thumbs up.
The answer is almost invariably yes. So Duncan wants a supermarket,
but he only wants it after consultation, and the consultation
will be people wanting a supermarket. But he's like, could
I Duncan here?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Hey, I reckon, you're getting better at your impersonations. They're
sounding less and less Pakistani all.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
The time, slowly but surely.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
And that's what it.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Comes down to. The are you a double thumbs up?
Kind of a guy I am, and I think I'm
a double thumbs up guy, but minor. It's more of
a it's an ironic double thumbs up, like I'm sort
of doing it as a joke, not a sincere. I
don't think I've ever done a sincere double thumbs up.
I'm just not that. I'm just not a dunkn we'b
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kind of a guy.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Good to have a.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Choice of super maggot. So and like Mike says, I
think we're all agreed about that, aren't we? So should
we move on and.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Do it re wrap now?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Was there any consultation about a hurry you ceasing to exist?
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Not sure, but that's what's happened.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Just the electorates by the way, that we didn't cover
apart from Ginny. I'm just thinking hut South expands to
take part of Newland's I should tell you before I
get to that. I forgot to meet from Australia the
other day. Reggie the Rabbit, which I raised on Monday.
Very few people in the media in this country have
covered Reggie the Rabbit, and they should have. Charlie Gallico
is Reggie the Rabbit and he went and whacked a
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nine year old Cronulla fan and so that was on
social media because his mother posted it on social media.
I'd like to apologize to Benji and his parents. I
should never have pushed Benji mother with a child posted
on social media claiming that Gallico had assaulted his son.
They met on yesterday, three parties, Mum, the son and
the rabbit to clear up that. I don't know. Charlie
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went as the rabbit. Do you go if you're a
mascot called Reggie, do you go as Reggie or do
you go as Charlie? Or do you go look maybe
just half the costume or would you just while you
start out as half the rabbit and go? Would you
like me to put my hood on?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Now? I mean don't wear the punchy bits.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Anyway.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
So that's been sort of where was I? So hut
South Expanse to take in part of Newland's Rumatuka moves
southwards an area around a poony. More importantly, or more interestingly,
the two electorates that are gone, well, the two new
electorates are going to be called Kenneperu and Capadi and
so they're created from bits of Ahario Mano and O Taki.
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They're gone so Ohario's Gregor o' connor's patch. Of course,
formerly Peter had done. Marna is Barbara Edmund's place. O
Taki is Tim Costley National MP. So they want to
see Wellington's wrong Attai gain bits of Mount Cook and Brooklyn,
which is good because Brooklyn's are nice. If I owned
wrong Atai as an electorate, I'd want Brooklyn in there.
But then again, Wellington Central loses those areas but moves
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north into Wadestown, Nio and Kindala.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
It's a bit like playing monopoly, isn't it. Can I
put a hotel on it?
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Wouldn't you want Wadestown in Kindala? Kndala's really Mayfair and
Wadestown is what what's Wadestown Bond Street? I think it's great.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
I feel a customized bored coming on.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Nio is yellow. I think NIO's probably yellow. No insult
to Nai. You're just not Wadestown in Candala. I mean, yeah,
I'm sure you think you are, but you're not certainly not.
Last time I went through Nio, you're no Wagetown or
words to that effect.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I thought it was a good strategy to buy those
cheap ones as quickly as you could.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
That's what I do on the monopoly. But what you
want is, of course is Mayfair and the Greens, but
you never go there because the cost of the hotel's
too much. And I think that's what you'd find in
Nio as well anyway. And in Auckland they're just mucking
around with it. Nothing actually goes or changes. I don't
know what happened to Andrew gets yesterday, who's busy on
the news all day telling us how epsoen was going
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to disappear, And EPSOM didn't go anywhere, so I don't
know what's going on there. So those are the electoral changes.
And as I said to Junior a moment ago, sort
of doesn't matter because MMP solved all those problems anyway, Hasn't.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
It a how you can make EBSOM disappear. Everything in Auckland,
as far as I can make out, is an EPSOM.
Every time I want to do anything, it's an EPSOM.
Suddenly not have EPSOM. But I guess it's just can
somebody please make that monopoly board.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
With a few sort of marginal electorates on it.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
And maybe you know, instead of going to jail and
not pass and go. You there's a what do they
call it? When there's more you get more MPs? What's
it called an m MP when you get more? I mean,
I'm going to have to look it up now and
get back to you on that rewrap overhang. I knew
it was overhang, and yeah, I didn't feel confident enough
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to actually say it out loud, but I've I've googled
it up and yep, the overhang, which is nobody wants that,
do they. You don't want more, I mean, you don't
want more MPs than you voted for, But that's what happens.
Sometimes there's reason enough not to vote for MMP, which
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I didn't. I just want to keep telling everybody and
reminding everybody I did not vote for MP anyway. Some
person who is somebody who's made the most of the
m m P for Wisond Peter's and the longer he lives,
the more he'll make of it.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Back to the best piece of reading you will see today, please,
can I recommend Audrey Young's piece in The Herald this
morning where she talks to Winston Peters. Winston she was
setting up the interview, she explains later on, to talk
about Marco Rubio. But they got onto vastly more fascinating things,
and that would be Winston Age. He's about to turn eighty.
Now I call it completely wrong. If you remember a
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couple of years ago, I said he'd get to this
last election, then he'd call it quits, and he clearly
shows no signs of that whatsoever. So he's about to
turn eighty in April, and they get on to diet.
And if you're a regular on this program, you will
know nobody is more fixated with diet and food and
health and exercise and all that sort of stuff than
I am. But turns out Winston's reasonably interested as well.
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He claims in this article this morning that back in
nineteen eighty he made a decision June five, nineteen eighty
that he was all about the diet. Now then he
makes this comment, and never a truer word said. This
drive he talks of to fix up the health system
doesn't count for much, especially with Marian Polynesians, if they're
not going to have a decent diet. Diet is not wealth.
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Diet is the right food. I think diet is absolutely critical,
and I'm glad somebody is saying that because no one
else will, because of course you'll be called a racist.
But it's true. And the problem for so much of
what's going wrong with the Western world and the health
systems generally, is that people are fat, and if they're
not fat, they're obese. And if they're not fat and
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or obese, they're not exercising and they're not healthy. And
you wonder why everyone's at the bottom of the cliff
and the health system. He puts it all down his
health because he's living way past the average age of
Marie Man, of course, which is about seventy three, and he's,
as I say, turning eighty living frugally. I don't know
how true that is, eating a lot of homegrown vegetables
and fish and home baked bread. This is how we
grew up. I think diet is absolutely critical. And the
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reality is I don't think we can win this battle
in terms of the health system in this country. Mari
health changes unless there is a massive dietary change. And
that's the problem. If you look at all the people
on dialysis, you know, how did they get there. They
didn't get there by accident, and nobody wants to say it.
It's no mistake that so many people live a long
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time who actually keep working, keep their minds busy, keep
actively engaged. It's the secret to success. The moment you
give up in terms of working, I think it's a
very bad outcome. So what you're saying is you eat well,
you work well, you have purpose. And if you look
at some of the ancient cultures, they're all about purpose.
It doesn't matter what your purpose is, but if you
have a purpose, it gets you out of bed in
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the morning. And the moment and all these all this
advertising you hear about all you can't wait to do nothing.
Doing nothing's a death sentence. And you mix that with
a bad diet and you're finished. And so of all
the things that Winston Peters will say to you this year,
that probably is the most profound and most important. The
only question I would raise around Winston is, so if
you've ever been to the Green Parent in Wellington, I
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just don't know how much vegetable, how many vegetables were
being eaten. And he, as far as I know, I
think he gave up smoking. I may be wrong, and
I think he could still be a smoker. And he's
certainly been well acquainted over the years with the drink.
So when you're talking about fish on one hand and
drinking and smoking on the other, you sort of negate
the way to your argument. But nevertheless, good on him
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for saying what he said. He's one hundred percent right,
and you can read it all An Audrey's piece this morning.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
But smoking thing's funny, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
It's actually not that funny given New Zealand's first slight
cloud with the whole you know, smoke free situation, the
tobacco industry, lobby groups, all of that.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
But if we can just leave that to one side.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, because Obama was always sort of criticized for ducking
out the back and having a cheeky smoke, wasn't he?
Speaker 3 (15:05):
And yet he seems to be a fine picture of
health as well.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
So there were quite There's been quite a few sort
of famous smoking politicians.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Haven't there.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Winston Churchill, he's been on a cigar, wasn't he interesting one?
We sort of give them a give them a pass
on that, don't we?
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Anyway?
Speaker 2 (15:31):
As far as I know, Winston's gave it up long ago.
I don't know what I'm talking about. I've never seen
him smoke. I don't know what Mike's talking about. I
a gleed heart. That was Mike's saying random stuff. We'll
see you all back here again tomorrow for more random stuff.
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