April 19, 2025 • 19 mins
Singer-songwriter Reb Fountain is back with a new album blending folk, art-pop and rock - How Love Bends.
Released in March, Reb and her band have wasted no time getting it out there with a new nationwide tour.
This is Reb's first full album since Covid-19 happened , and she's looking forward to promoting her work without the lockdowns and restrictions getting in the way.
"This one - it feels like it's a whole new experience to be sharing it with everyone while we can walk around and I can come and do interviews and play shows."
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sunday Session podcast with Francesca Rudkin
from News Talks ed b The Sunday Session.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Lovely Sun, all the Chistmas sounds, then station member parts
of language ones, so researches, Involution a single, tips Domasyl robson.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Which console you're with the Sunday Session on News Talks EB.
I'm Francis good By, I can with you until midday.
And this is City by Reb Fountain of her latest album,
How Love Bends, released in March. This is Reb six
studio album and it's off to a great start, debut
at number one in the Auto album charts. Red is
now touring the album around the country and I'm thrilled
(01:14):
she's made it into the studio for a chat. Red
found him good morning, so lovely to see you again.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Yeah, it's so great to be here.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
And congratulations on the album. As I mentioned in our introduction,
at debut at number one on the top twenty aut
h album's chart, that must be a good feeling.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
It was a really good feeling. Actually, the last two
records I've released during lockdown and this one, it feels
like it's a whole new experience. To be sharing it
with everyone while we can walk around and I can
come and do interviews like this and play shows, and
so for the fact that folks were listening has been Yeah,
(01:53):
it's meant a lot.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
It must feel a little bit unusual, actually to release
an album in perfectly normal time. As you say, it
was such sort of disruption last time round, and now
you're actually able to get out here and do publicity
and sort of does it feel a little bit more momentous.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
It's I've felt really nervous, to be honest. I think
when the Red Fountain self titled album, it was the
first lockdown and it was kind of scary and we
didn't know what was happening. But it was kind of
a novelty to be releasing a record during that time,
and for folks out there who don't know, you put
so much energy into releasing a record. There's so much
promo that you do your talk and you're hustling, you're
(02:32):
going to record stores, you're playing shows. There's so much
that goes on and none of that could happen. And
then the second time round with my album Iris, we
were at home and it was so depressing. So this
time to actually be able to do everything has felt
really exciting, but also like being on the edge of
a precipice. Oh, I don't really know what this is like.
(02:52):
So yeah, it's been great.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
It's interesting though, because the timing of those album releases
and the lockdowns, it could have had a real impact
on you. But I think when you release an album
and it goes to the top of the charts, you
would have to say, actually, it didn't have a huge
impact during your career. Is that fair to say?
Speaker 4 (03:08):
It really has influenced everything, including this album How I've
Been So the first one, reb Fountain, I released during Lockdown,
but I was also writing a song a day during Lockdown,
which meant that when we came out of Lockdown, the
band line recorded our next album, Iris, so we had
recorded and finished that album before we even were touring
the previous one. And similarly with Iris, I had these
(03:31):
great intentions of writing a song a day like I
did the last Lockdown, and that didn't happen. I ended
up getting a concussion and that just changed everything for me.
But that process of having that really influenced the writing
of this next record, So you know, I wouldn't be
where I am today without those lockdowns.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
So how did it influence this album?
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Well, I think just I don't know if those of
you out there have had a concussion, you know what
it's like. You feel really like you're on a different
planet and it's hard to do the things that you
normally do. So for me, like, I couldn't puzzle together
songs in the same way, and I was afraid, you know,
in lots and lots of ways. But it meant that
Dave and I started communicating over lockdown, where he'd send
(04:17):
me kind of musical landscapes and I'd just start singing
over them, and that really allowed me to explore in
a different way. And it also began this process of
me writing songs differently where I was opening up to
I guess what I'd say, like a dream consciousness. I
was dreaming so much during that time, and I'd wake
up in the middle of the night with these kind
of incessant audio notes that I had to get down
(04:38):
and a lot of those turned into songs. So it
was kind of this combination of really opening up to
my unconscious and trusting my musical partner and my band
to kind of create something in a new way. And
that's where hall I've Ben's kind of originated.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Well, that's really interesting. So it changed the way you write.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
I think it helped me be more open, because you
need to. I needed to allow myself to trust more,
to feel safe with what I do, and share more
because I was going through this really insular process. But
in order to create and create with other musicians, you
do have to open up. So it just kind of
cracked my shower a little bit more and meant that
(05:18):
I could explore facets of myself that I was exploring earlier,
but I could say more clearly. And so we really
chose with this record to be unapologetic and fierce and strong,
and that also means showing my vulnerability.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
I've always felt that your songs are always so beautifully
crafted that you aim for some kind of perfectionism with them.
Would that be a fairy like for you? Has it
actually been about having that control over the songs or
if you just felt that you're responsible for them and
hadn't been in an environment where you could collaborate before.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
To me, the process of creating is leaving go and
so you're absolutely right, Like I wanted to be a beautiful,
great song. But at the same time, I have to
be open to whatever emerging, and that may be whatever
images from me unconsciously or the maladies that come, or
the lyrics or the intention. But it also can be collaboratively,
(06:15):
like what happens when I engage with other people and
we grow something and change something. So it's really exciting.
But like I said earlier, it's kind of like being
on the edge of a precipice. Are you going to jump?
Are you going to allow yourself to And actually you're
never going to completely for You're just going to fly
for a little while, and that might feel a bit new.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
You've mentioned Dave, and we should say this is Dave Kahn,
who has produced the album with you, and we should
also mention works with a lot of top New Zealand artists.
He was in our studio a few weeks ago with
Fin Andrews from The Veils, and he also works with
Marlon Williams and he's part of your band as well
and produce this album.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
I'm so fortunate with Dave because he is such a
multi talented musician. He's also a great friend and we
work really well together and I think we've grown a
lot musically, and something that really is showcased in this
record is that relationship that we built over time and
(07:16):
actually interestingly in the studio. We recorded it around Head
Studios here in Auckland, and Simon Gooding, who co produced
the record with Dave, said to me, it's like watching
these two.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Artists at work.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
You guys are just so fast and so where we
were slightly clunky and just kind of making it up,
now we do the same thing. We're still making it up,
but we can do it a little bit more streamlined
and it feels fun. It's like we're writing the crest
of the wave together.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I love it, and he's going to perform with you
for us. Shortly, he was the one that suggested that
you write a song a day. That must be impossible
to keep up.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Honestly, I don't know how I did it, except for
that it was a novelty at that time, you know,
it was something new, and I've often thought about that, Okay,
I want to do some dedicated writing, but there's so
many things that come into play, and I think we
just had this moment of space, and yes, if I
didn't have or take on so many other responsibilities in
my life it might be easier, but I definitely encourage
(08:13):
that kind of concept, Like just the discipline. I'm not
very disciplined generally, so practicing or making space for writing
is challenging. But also sometimes when when something is emerging,
I'm a little bit afraid to let it come back
because I'm like, I can feel that something requires space
and time, and so that can be an interesting process
to play with. Oh, actually it's me holding a song back.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Do you write when you are in the right space
to write? Does it come in waves in a way?
You know how? There are some people who are very
dedicated who will put that time aside, or authors who
will do that as well. He'll say, no, I'm going
to sit down and I'm going to do this is
what I'm going to do.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
I'd love to do that, Oh you would, I'd love
to do I don't, But that's probably because you've got
a lot of, as you say, a lot of other
things going on in your life.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
But just having that discipline, though, it's quite hard, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
I think for me, my practice is that I'll be
open to whatever comes whenever it comes, And sometimes that's
this sort of very kind of doldrum period where you're like,
am I ever going to write another song? But for me,
I just am open to it all the time. So
it might be, oh, i'm in the car, I need
to just press auto record on my phone, or I'm
(09:20):
walking the dog, or I'm sitting around just playing a
bunch of chords, or I get inspired by another song,
so there's a lot of different things. Or I make
that dedicated space and I don't know. Maybe other creative
artists can say out there what they're like, but for me,
I multitask a lot, which is problematic, but I've learned
to work with it.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
You mentioned before the concussion you had this brain injury.
We should probably explain that you were actually pruning a tree.
Is that correct?
Speaker 4 (09:46):
I wasn't even pruning. I was underneath it, just not
watching it.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
Now.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
I have a hard hat and my shed, but it
was a really heavy, long cherry tree branch. Yes, so
that landed on my head and I was like, that
was incredibly painful, but oh, this was five days before
my album was going to be released, Iris and and
I kind of went along with it. But then I
noticed that I was crying all the time and not
(10:13):
feeling that great, and it was really sort of a
week later that I was bedridden and took a long
time to recover from that process. And I still have
issues with it, but I think, like any big experience
in your life, you know, it affects you, and then
you keep moving and something else affects you. And so
I've tried to kind of absorb that, like that that
(10:34):
it's definitely a part of me in a way that
it wasn't before, but that I don't want it to
be everything.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
It's not a full ident, no, no, absolutely not. But
it is interesting because we hear about it a lot,
but I don't think a lot of us understand the
consequence of it, like what it is actually. I mean,
I'm sure it was a surprise to you.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
It's such a hidden illness, I suppose, because you can
look like you're functioning, but you can say, hey, I'm
not functioning and people can't even see it. So it
was really challenging for me, for my family, from my band,
all of us, anyone that you're close to. I think
what happens over time is that you kind of learned
(11:10):
some skills and tools and you're able to care for
yourself better. So I use a lot of positive self
talk and I try and catch myself and I don't always,
and it's accepting those times when you go, oh, wow,
I'm really having symptoms, I need to chill out, or yeah,
catching yourself a few you're on.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Toward at the top of this interview, we played the
song City, and I wanted to talk to you about
that because I know that Snead O'Connor is a bit
of a hero of yours and this song on the
album was inspired by her. Is that right?
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Yeah, Well, she need's passing, like ah. I was just
so devastated by you know, she's such a legend, so
inspirational to me on many levels musically as a woman, politically. Yeah,
I just felt I felt this kinship and a sisterhood
in the sense of wanting to talk about what it's
like to have to pick yourself up, you know, to
(12:00):
feel like other in society and to be lost in
the city, and how you can and how you can
rise to the surface if you choose to, and just
wanting to maybe even for myself or for others, remake
that commitment to staying here on the planet that's actually
really valuable to have voices like hers and all of
yours out there to be heard because you've got something
(12:24):
really special to say.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Your daughter, Lola makes your video clips. How good is
it being able to involve her in all of us?
Speaker 4 (12:32):
It's so great. I feel very fortunate. Yeah, we have
a lot of fun. She's really passionate. She's very supportive
and is my tech geek whenever.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
I need one. We really do.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Yeah, often calling her can you please help me with
this or that? Outside of just making music videos, but
she's uber talented. The most recent video we made, he
commands you to Jump into the Sea, is just out
off the park. It's just so good. And Yeah, I'm
really really excited for people to see your work.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I can remember hearing a story Donmridgation spoke about how
he saw you busking I think outside Auckland Railway station
and you had your.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Kids farmers make it.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Yeah, your kids kind of hanging around, and it feels
like your music career has been as much as their
journey as it has been for you.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
In a way, I'm really fortunate to have had them
along the road, and I they've grown up with this
as being their normal life, you know, having bandmates come
and sleeping on the couch, picking up my gear, going
to gigs and you know, making art or music videos
for me, and they don't know that.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
It's not normal, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Yeah, But it's meant a lot to me to have them.
And I think the balance for me of having my
creative life and my children is what keeps me saying there.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Yeah, you're halfway through your tour at the moment, and
I know that you just love touring. I know that
being able to connect with the audience is where your
heart's at.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Isn't it. We really do, all of us the band.
It's kind of the pot of gold at the end
of the rainbow, you know, like everything works towards that moment.
So for us being on the road, as I find
it incredibly energizing, nourishing. We have a great time together
and we get to play live music to people, and
you know, it's like a different medium than recorded music.
(14:26):
It's just so raw and we get to connect together
being there, and I feel like magic happens in that moment,
and yeah, we all.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Love that, certainly does. We've got a little bit of
magic for us. We've got a little bit of magic
for the audience, now you and today they're going to
perform nothing like that's right.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
We're doing a little duo version for you. I'm looking
forward to it.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Let's do it.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
Looking like an ex side to raise you, looking like
a bad dream, to raise the death.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
When I get out here, I'm gonna call you see
what I should have said, looking like money, do you
want to go again?
Speaker 6 (15:52):
Looking like a tiger to lose zomber, looking like a desert,
too few foods. You don't have to be good to know,
washing my regrets for this, so letting my side to
(16:45):
see you home, letting my losing to think them.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
Everything, your news is newer than your head of the song,
letting my trouble to be like normal, letting my dying
(17:22):
to chase wool, loving my sol.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
Fucky and soul.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
You saw not s the.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Sure nothing I wanted more already for a soul.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
My love.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
To rees.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
Love the love volun follens det.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Red for say love a mad dreamer.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
For absolutely amazing. That was Reb Fountain and Dave Kahn
(19:00):
with nothing like Thank You so Much. That song is
on Reb's new album How Love Bends, which out now,
and Ribs tour is underway. For more information, you can
head to rib Fountain dot.
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Speaker 2 (00:34):
Lovely Sun, all the Chistmas sounds, then station member parts
of language ones, so researches, Involution a single, tips Domasyl robson.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Which console you're with the Sunday Session on News Talks EB.
I'm Francis good By, I can with you until midday.
And this is City by Reb Fountain of her latest album,
How Love Bends, released in March. This is Reb six
studio album and it's off to a great start, debut
at number one in the Auto album charts. Red is
now touring the album around the country and I'm thrilled
(01:14):
she's made it into the studio for a chat. Red
found him good morning, so lovely to see you again.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Yeah, it's so great to be here.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
And congratulations on the album. As I mentioned in our introduction,
at debut at number one on the top twenty aut
h album's chart, that must be a good feeling.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
It was a really good feeling. Actually, the last two
records I've released during lockdown and this one, it feels
like it's a whole new experience. To be sharing it
with everyone while we can walk around and I can
come and do interviews like this and play shows, and
so for the fact that folks were listening has been Yeah,
(01:53):
it's meant a lot.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
It must feel a little bit unusual, actually to release
an album in perfectly normal time. As you say, it
was such sort of disruption last time round, and now
you're actually able to get out here and do publicity
and sort of does it feel a little bit more momentous.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
It's I've felt really nervous, to be honest. I think
when the Red Fountain self titled album, it was the
first lockdown and it was kind of scary and we
didn't know what was happening. But it was kind of
a novelty to be releasing a record during that time,
and for folks out there who don't know, you put
so much energy into releasing a record. There's so much
promo that you do your talk and you're hustling, you're
(02:32):
going to record stores, you're playing shows. There's so much
that goes on and none of that could happen. And
then the second time round with my album Iris, we
were at home and it was so depressing. So this
time to actually be able to do everything has felt
really exciting, but also like being on the edge of
a precipice. Oh, I don't really know what this is like.
(02:52):
So yeah, it's been great.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
It's interesting though, because the timing of those album releases
and the lockdowns, it could have had a real impact
on you. But I think when you release an album
and it goes to the top of the charts, you
would have to say, actually, it didn't have a huge
impact during your career. Is that fair to say?
Speaker 4 (03:08):
It really has influenced everything, including this album How I've
Been So the first one, reb Fountain, I released during Lockdown,
but I was also writing a song a day during Lockdown,
which meant that when we came out of Lockdown, the
band line recorded our next album, Iris, so we had
recorded and finished that album before we even were touring
the previous one. And similarly with Iris, I had these
(03:31):
great intentions of writing a song a day like I
did the last Lockdown, and that didn't happen. I ended
up getting a concussion and that just changed everything for me.
But that process of having that really influenced the writing
of this next record, So you know, I wouldn't be
where I am today without those lockdowns.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
So how did it influence this album?
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Well, I think just I don't know if those of
you out there have had a concussion, you know what
it's like. You feel really like you're on a different
planet and it's hard to do the things that you
normally do. So for me, like, I couldn't puzzle together
songs in the same way, and I was afraid, you know,
in lots and lots of ways. But it meant that
Dave and I started communicating over lockdown, where he'd send
(04:17):
me kind of musical landscapes and I'd just start singing
over them, and that really allowed me to explore in
a different way. And it also began this process of
me writing songs differently where I was opening up to
I guess what I'd say, like a dream consciousness. I
was dreaming so much during that time, and I'd wake
up in the middle of the night with these kind
of incessant audio notes that I had to get down
(04:38):
and a lot of those turned into songs. So it
was kind of this combination of really opening up to
my unconscious and trusting my musical partner and my band
to kind of create something in a new way. And
that's where hall I've Ben's kind of originated.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Well, that's really interesting. So it changed the way you write.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
I think it helped me be more open, because you
need to. I needed to allow myself to trust more,
to feel safe with what I do, and share more
because I was going through this really insular process. But
in order to create and create with other musicians, you
do have to open up. So it just kind of
cracked my shower a little bit more and meant that
(05:18):
I could explore facets of myself that I was exploring earlier,
but I could say more clearly. And so we really
chose with this record to be unapologetic and fierce and strong,
and that also means showing my vulnerability.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
I've always felt that your songs are always so beautifully
crafted that you aim for some kind of perfectionism with them.
Would that be a fairy like for you? Has it
actually been about having that control over the songs or
if you just felt that you're responsible for them and
hadn't been in an environment where you could collaborate before.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
To me, the process of creating is leaving go and
so you're absolutely right, Like I wanted to be a beautiful,
great song. But at the same time, I have to
be open to whatever emerging, and that may be whatever
images from me unconsciously or the maladies that come, or
the lyrics or the intention. But it also can be collaboratively,
(06:15):
like what happens when I engage with other people and
we grow something and change something. So it's really exciting.
But like I said earlier, it's kind of like being
on the edge of a precipice. Are you going to jump?
Are you going to allow yourself to And actually you're
never going to completely for You're just going to fly
for a little while, and that might feel a bit new.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
You've mentioned Dave, and we should say this is Dave Kahn,
who has produced the album with you, and we should
also mention works with a lot of top New Zealand artists.
He was in our studio a few weeks ago with
Fin Andrews from The Veils, and he also works with
Marlon Williams and he's part of your band as well
and produce this album.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
I'm so fortunate with Dave because he is such a
multi talented musician. He's also a great friend and we
work really well together and I think we've grown a
lot musically, and something that really is showcased in this
record is that relationship that we built over time and
(07:16):
actually interestingly in the studio. We recorded it around Head
Studios here in Auckland, and Simon Gooding, who co produced
the record with Dave, said to me, it's like watching
these two.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Artists at work.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
You guys are just so fast and so where we
were slightly clunky and just kind of making it up,
now we do the same thing. We're still making it up,
but we can do it a little bit more streamlined
and it feels fun. It's like we're writing the crest
of the wave together.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I love it, and he's going to perform with you
for us. Shortly, he was the one that suggested that
you write a song a day. That must be impossible
to keep up.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Honestly, I don't know how I did it, except for
that it was a novelty at that time, you know,
it was something new, and I've often thought about that, Okay,
I want to do some dedicated writing, but there's so
many things that come into play, and I think we
just had this moment of space, and yes, if I
didn't have or take on so many other responsibilities in
my life it might be easier, but I definitely encourage
(08:13):
that kind of concept, Like just the discipline. I'm not
very disciplined generally, so practicing or making space for writing
is challenging. But also sometimes when when something is emerging,
I'm a little bit afraid to let it come back
because I'm like, I can feel that something requires space
and time, and so that can be an interesting process
to play with. Oh, actually it's me holding a song back.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Do you write when you are in the right space
to write? Does it come in waves in a way?
You know how? There are some people who are very
dedicated who will put that time aside, or authors who
will do that as well. He'll say, no, I'm going
to sit down and I'm going to do this is
what I'm going to do.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
I'd love to do that, Oh you would, I'd love
to do I don't, But that's probably because you've got
a lot of, as you say, a lot of other
things going on in your life.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
But just having that discipline, though, it's quite hard, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
I think for me, my practice is that I'll be
open to whatever comes whenever it comes, And sometimes that's
this sort of very kind of doldrum period where you're like,
am I ever going to write another song? But for me,
I just am open to it all the time. So
it might be, oh, i'm in the car, I need
to just press auto record on my phone, or I'm
(09:20):
walking the dog, or I'm sitting around just playing a
bunch of chords, or I get inspired by another song,
so there's a lot of different things. Or I make
that dedicated space and I don't know. Maybe other creative
artists can say out there what they're like, but for me,
I multitask a lot, which is problematic, but I've learned
to work with it.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
You mentioned before the concussion you had this brain injury.
We should probably explain that you were actually pruning a tree.
Is that correct?
Speaker 4 (09:46):
I wasn't even pruning. I was underneath it, just not
watching it.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
Now.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
I have a hard hat and my shed, but it
was a really heavy, long cherry tree branch. Yes, so
that landed on my head and I was like, that
was incredibly painful, but oh, this was five days before
my album was going to be released, Iris and and
I kind of went along with it. But then I
noticed that I was crying all the time and not
(10:13):
feeling that great, and it was really sort of a
week later that I was bedridden and took a long
time to recover from that process. And I still have
issues with it, but I think, like any big experience
in your life, you know, it affects you, and then
you keep moving and something else affects you. And so
I've tried to kind of absorb that, like that that
(10:34):
it's definitely a part of me in a way that
it wasn't before, but that I don't want it to
be everything.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
It's not a full ident, no, no, absolutely not. But
it is interesting because we hear about it a lot,
but I don't think a lot of us understand the
consequence of it, like what it is actually. I mean,
I'm sure it was a surprise to you.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
It's such a hidden illness, I suppose, because you can
look like you're functioning, but you can say, hey, I'm
not functioning and people can't even see it. So it
was really challenging for me, for my family, from my band,
all of us, anyone that you're close to. I think
what happens over time is that you kind of learned
(11:10):
some skills and tools and you're able to care for
yourself better. So I use a lot of positive self
talk and I try and catch myself and I don't always,
and it's accepting those times when you go, oh, wow,
I'm really having symptoms, I need to chill out, or yeah,
catching yourself a few you're on.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Toward at the top of this interview, we played the
song City, and I wanted to talk to you about
that because I know that Snead O'Connor is a bit
of a hero of yours and this song on the
album was inspired by her. Is that right?
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Yeah, Well, she need's passing, like ah. I was just
so devastated by you know, she's such a legend, so
inspirational to me on many levels musically as a woman, politically. Yeah,
I just felt I felt this kinship and a sisterhood
in the sense of wanting to talk about what it's
like to have to pick yourself up, you know, to
(12:00):
feel like other in society and to be lost in
the city, and how you can and how you can
rise to the surface if you choose to, and just
wanting to maybe even for myself or for others, remake
that commitment to staying here on the planet that's actually
really valuable to have voices like hers and all of
yours out there to be heard because you've got something
(12:24):
really special to say.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Your daughter, Lola makes your video clips. How good is
it being able to involve her in all of us?
Speaker 4 (12:32):
It's so great. I feel very fortunate. Yeah, we have
a lot of fun. She's really passionate. She's very supportive
and is my tech geek whenever.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
I need one. We really do.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Yeah, often calling her can you please help me with
this or that? Outside of just making music videos, but
she's uber talented. The most recent video we made, he
commands you to Jump into the Sea, is just out
off the park. It's just so good. And Yeah, I'm
really really excited for people to see your work.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I can remember hearing a story Donmridgation spoke about how
he saw you busking I think outside Auckland Railway station
and you had your.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Kids farmers make it.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Yeah, your kids kind of hanging around, and it feels
like your music career has been as much as their
journey as it has been for you.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
In a way, I'm really fortunate to have had them
along the road, and I they've grown up with this
as being their normal life, you know, having bandmates come
and sleeping on the couch, picking up my gear, going
to gigs and you know, making art or music videos
for me, and they don't know that.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
It's not normal, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Yeah, But it's meant a lot to me to have them.
And I think the balance for me of having my
creative life and my children is what keeps me saying there.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Yeah, you're halfway through your tour at the moment, and
I know that you just love touring. I know that
being able to connect with the audience is where your
heart's at.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Isn't it. We really do, all of us the band.
It's kind of the pot of gold at the end
of the rainbow, you know, like everything works towards that moment.
So for us being on the road, as I find
it incredibly energizing, nourishing. We have a great time together
and we get to play live music to people, and
you know, it's like a different medium than recorded music.
(14:26):
It's just so raw and we get to connect together
being there, and I feel like magic happens in that moment,
and yeah, we all.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Love that, certainly does. We've got a little bit of
magic for us. We've got a little bit of magic
for the audience, now you and today they're going to
perform nothing like that's right.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
We're doing a little duo version for you. I'm looking
forward to it.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Let's do it.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
Looking like an ex side to raise you, looking like
a bad dream, to raise the death.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
When I get out here, I'm gonna call you see
what I should have said, looking like money, do you
want to go again?
Speaker 6 (15:52):
Looking like a tiger to lose zomber, looking like a desert,
too few foods. You don't have to be good to know,
washing my regrets for this, so letting my side to
(16:45):
see you home, letting my losing to think them.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
Everything, your news is newer than your head of the song,
letting my trouble to be like normal, letting my dying
(17:22):
to chase wool, loving my sol.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
Fucky and soul.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
You saw not s the.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Sure nothing I wanted more already for a soul.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
My love.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
To rees.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
Love the love volun follens det.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Red for say love a mad dreamer.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
For absolutely amazing. That was Reb Fountain and Dave Kahn
(19:00):
with nothing like Thank You so Much. That song is
on Reb's new album How Love Bends, which out now,
and Ribs tour is underway. For more information, you can
head to rib Fountain dot.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Co dot nz For more from the Sunday session with
Francesca Rudkin. Listen live to News Talks at B from
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