November 29, 2024 • 40 mins
Today on The Panel, Tim Beveridge is joined by Wilhelmina Shrimpton and Niva Retimanu to discuss the biggest stories from the week that was.
Nikkie Kaye's unfortunate passing, Covid Royal Commission of Inquiry is released, gangs are using regional airports to run drugs, Auckland CBD to get a new police station, Australia bans social media for under 16s, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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Speaker 3 (00:42):
So come on then, had a very good afternoon to you.
I'm Tim Beverage. Welcome today's to today's show, The Weekend
Collective the Saturday, the thirtieth of November. I tell you what,
we have cameras in the studio and I'm gonna have
a chat with the boss and see if we can
get them rolling. Whenever my panelists are on the show,
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because it's it's it's dinner and a show today. Well
it's radio and a show, should I say? Anyway, Hey,
looking forward to introducing my panelist in just a moment,
very esteemed, well one of them as anyway. Anyway, now
they're claiming which one it is four o'clock. Just looking
a little bit of ahead. Will be taking your calls
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nine two nine two for four o'clock. The one Roof
Radio show, Debbie Roberts, we're gonna have a chat about
the ocr cut, but whether actually you know there was
a time when real estate just felt like the Darling
investment of Kiwi's. Is it there now or is it
gonna be or ever again? Or we have a chat
about that a little bit as well. At five o'clock
for the Parents Squad, Catherine Burkett joins us on pressuring
your kids into well maintaining some of the things they've
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committed to, but doing things perhaps they don't want to anymore.
And shortly before sex will look ahead with the sports rap.
But right now it is eight minutes past three, which
signals time for our panelist. My first look. She reads
the news from time to time and she just won't
stop going on about all the awards she's won. I
think I don't know how many it is now so
thirteen or something's never They don't know which one it is,
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never ready, Marno, neither it's you. I'm introducing you.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Well the other one is one awards. I thought, God,
it could be here as well. She's scared you it
wasn't you because you haven't won? Are you?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Oh my god? Where have we gone with the start
of the show. We're already I'm already a sorry, hey,
how many wards is it now? Thirtyteen thirteen? But who's counting? Actually,
come on, it is a silly number of awards, isn't it.
I mean it's ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Look, has there been my time to throw it in
anyone's face?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
But has there been a time when you've won the
award and you've sat there and it's like the drum
roll and the winner is never ready marnin and you
sort of just roll your eyes and going, of course
it is.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
The time will come. It'll be this year that I've
drinxed it now that I won't win, And I am
very very honored to have one in the past where
I'll be thinking, my gosh, I've won so many times now,
I know, be funny to feel like a loser. Now
I must know how everybody else in the world feels.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
So oh my god. Okay, look, I think we better
look and settle yourself down, have a cup of hot tea,
and lie down. My next panelist, she is well, Look,
she's besotted, she's bewitched. When she was recently ruled she's
recently ruled to be legitimately on side by international rugby
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referee being O'Keeffe who she is so in love with,
so in love and you can read about it and
I'm not sure which magazines, but probably all of them.
Wilhelmina Shrimpton, Hello, Willemina.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Hello.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
I'm glad that's the only thing that exists in my CV,
the fact that she's in love. What about my bloody awards?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yeah, my awards on the major piece of news you've
told us today upon your rival. You've set a date,
I have, and you are very happy and you're glowing,
so I think it's good to find that. It's good.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
We're going to play a wedding song in and out
of you your break this time we did, last time
we did.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Anyway, So you've set a date. I mean, you can
keep that to yourself. But you've got a long engagement
coming up, isn't you.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
It's about a year away. That's the pretty standard.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
When you said a year away, that tells me you're
going to have at least one hundred guests. I don't know,
it's sort of.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Like a rule of thumb like that one twenty she's
only got tea that would be cheap though, that would
say so much money. Oh my god. Some part of
me monts to just have teas.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
But I just the main reason. Look, we have a
fun with it. But it's just nice because it's nice
to celebrate good news and you're clearly you know, you're
rocking and rolling and it's great.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Absolutely, that is a very very exciting time news on
the weekend.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Really yeah, I want to ask questions, but no, that
secrecy and privacy that can.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Put pressure on a relationship. With the planning of a wedding.
My advice to Ben would just be to say, yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
I'm pretty relaxed. I mean, and I have done this
once before.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
So as Winspinster Abbey, was that available, did you?
Speaker 5 (05:07):
Oh, we put it. We put in a good word,
you know, put the email in waiting to hear back.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
He'd be quite good. He'd give you the world. So
whatever you want, you can have it.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
I'm kind of like you, whatever you want, whatever you want. Oh,
that's all good, it's very very chill. Let's see how
it goes in six months time. Oh yeah, there's a budget.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
There is a budget.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Yeah yeah, what is.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
It like a labor government budget or a national goverment that.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
We're not fasically responsible, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Grant Robertson's in charge of the Actually, there are a
few MP's are celebrants, aren't They feel like every lot of.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
People in this newsroom that are celebrants.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Everyone's celebrating a celebrant.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
No, I'm not a lot of broadcasting people are. I
think I might be the only one who isn't.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
Sim can you become a celebrant?
Speaker 3 (05:54):
You can do I'm not. Actually, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
She's fantasted.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Is good?
Speaker 4 (06:02):
I think she's in demand, Ginny Woods, I think she
is kind of Heaps of people out there.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Can give us. I reckon, you should get someone funeral. No,
I've got it.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
We've got the whole.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
I know who it should be, and we just need
to get them qualified. I reckon, you need the You
need Elliott Smith as the voice of Rugby to call
the wedding including imagine that and the briders were dressed
in white, no surprises. They're making a strong run down
the sideline there.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
I can imagine that Elliot would do a.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Job of that. Oh my gosh, very on brand. I'm
full of good ideas, full of good ideas.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Okay, now, look, look there are some sad things to
talk about to start the show with them, to switch
things around. And I think probably we were all, I
guess a little bit shocked at the news of the
death of Nicky Kay, former National Party minister, but the
sadder news that her father and suc comed only a
few days later. Neva, what was your.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Actually, I just this story just really struck a chord
with me and I'm sure a lot of our listeners
and everyone else here in New Zealand. But I mean,
Nicky Kay, aged forty four, died of breast cancer and
that was last Saturday, so a week ago. And then
the news I think the Herald had a story on
it yesterday that the death of her dad, prominent lawyer
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Peter Kay, had died just days after she had died.
So here you have, aged seventy seven, this double tragedy
for the k family. I mean, my heart goes out
to them, really, I mean, and it's just both of
them have contributed so much, you know, like to the country,
and I just thought, you know, I was reading all
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the tributes and everything, firstly of you know, like Nicki Kay,
for Nicki Kay, and David Farrow, who's been a longtime
friend of hers, and he's said some amazing things. But
one that just made me laugh a bit as well was,
you know when Nicki was the Orkland Central MP, and
he said that he recalled someone from the Mayor's office
dreading you know, Nicki's meeting with the mayor. Because the
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average MP would come up with one or two, you know,
ideas or options to talk to the mayor. But Nicki
would come into the office and she'd have twenty five
to thirty things, a list of things that she wanted,
you know, Okay, we're going to discuss this, you know,
and it just goes to show just a passion and
you know what she felt, you know, everything that she did,
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you know for the community in Auckland Central and great
Bury Island.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Yeah. I think she just seemed like an amazing role
model of determination and people who said, don't stand for
Auckland Century, You're not going to you know, there's no
chance you'll want it. And she was a great MP
for Auckland Central. Will I mean, what are your thoughts
about everything?
Speaker 5 (08:32):
I think that no matter what side of the political
spectrum you sat on, that everyone had a lot of
respect for her for her hard work and her determination.
And one thing that I didn't realize that I read
earlier today was that Sir john Key was saying that
at the time that her diagnoses diagnosis came out, that
she was actually a lot sicker than what they put
out there publicly, which and she decided to continue working
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through that. And I think that's just a testament to
how dedicated she was to the role and the effect
that she had on people, and that she wanted to
keep going and keep continuing. And you know, reading that
it was something that he felt kept her going for
so long. It gave her another ten years. You know,
that passion, that drive, it was the reason why she
got up in the morning. And seeing all of the
tributes come through and from all walks of life, young, old,
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And I love how she ready captured the younger generation
as well, which was so important. She really really really
cared about what the younger generation of voices had to say,
and I think she was a great representation of that.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I think also there was I think the time at
the time of some of the commentary about how she
was a cross party. You know, she was always willing
to work with people across the party spectrum. It is
quite a good example for people probably right now to
be reminded of that that we don't need to be
sa partisan and everything.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
And differently, hearing about the strong friendships that she had.
I know Mamama Davidson as well. You know, I think
she was one of the first people to tell her
about her diagnosis too. And hearing about those type friendships
whether or not you were blue or green or yellow
or whatever, it was ridical.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
My favorite story, my favorite story was the one David
Pharaoh by the way on kiblog dot court at and
he was a very close friend. He's gotten a lovely
tribute to her with some funny stories. As he says,
Nikki had severe arachnophobia. She couldn't manage being within ten
meters of even a daddy long legs or even a
plastic spider. I convinced her to come to the premiere
of Lord of the Ring's Return of the King electing
(10:17):
to mention Sea Lob. Wouldn't you have loved to watch
an Iraq reaction to that scene.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
But the other good thing too, I think that it
was really good too that when Nicky k died like
she wanted privacy, the family wanted privacy, and they got that.
And I'm pleased that that did happen because you know,
they had a private cremation on the Monday, and then
they released that information, you know, and the media knew
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by Tuesday all the following day. Now, you know, in
New Zealand, things get leaked and people would know. And
I think but I think that was respectful and that's
the way that she wanted it, and that's the way
the family wanted it. And I'm really pleased that that
did happen for her. And now hearing about the news
about the dead, you know.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
So hard for that family, Yeah, so hard for that family.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Absolutely. Well, onto other things political stories. I guess the
COVID inquiry has been released. It makes a bunch of recommendations.
I think the thing for me is that I'm still
waiting for part two. It's like I almost know what
the scene now, it's like, wait for the sequel. The
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interesting the quirky thing about it, regardless of what the
report said, which probably wasn't any surprise to any of us,
was that there was a question about whether it was
going to be released straight away because the Herald had
reported that Brook van Velden had previously said she wouldn't
release it until the second phase. But then Tony Blakeley,
who wrote the thing who cheered the inquiry should I say,
(11:52):
said there was no reason why not to be released,
and all of a sudden it was released. So there
we go. We all get to read it. Will you
read it?
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Probably not the whole however many it was seventeen Probably
not the whole. One was one hundred and seventeen pages.
I really don't need to go, do you know the
summary page? They can go. No. Of course someone's going
to compile all the main points out of it. But
I also feel like a lot of these points are
pretty obvious and pretty self explanatory, you know, planning for
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multiple periods of times, looking at all aspects of people's lives,
not just health. And I know that was a real
issue when it came to MiQ. You know, everyone had
this blanket approach in that MiQ lottery, but they weren't
taken into account individual circumstances. And I remember that was
the big thing around, you know, Charlotte Ballace, who was
pregnant at the time, trying to come back and I
know there was a lot of outrage around that, and
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there was just this blanket approach one size fits all,
but actually everyone's circumstances were different. It should have been
judged individually based on whatever they were going through at
the time.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Was a lot of it too, you know, like the
prolonged lockdown specific for Auckland twenty twenty one, and I
think that was one of the key things as well,
you know, like looking at the report and then it
just brought everything back to me. You know, I was thinking, gosh, remember.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
The one.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Conferences with old Ashley and you know, you'd be at home.
But I think because we were news people and here
at ZIB, we you know, didn't work from home. And
I was really grateful that we did that. We were
actually you know, in our newsrooms and we had to
come in and we were masked up and there would
only be like two three people and a huge, huge newsroom.
But the one PM presses that became, you know, like
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mandatory viewing for everyone, and it's something that we all
used to look forward to.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
It was kind of, yeah, who's on our show for
politics tomorrow? Jessica, No, because Ashley.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Doing a little dance of success. Don't celebrate until he's
actually here. But yes, we have got actually did. I
think there'll also be a lot of light I mean
our second lockdown in Auckland, but I think part of
there'll be more light shed on that by the second inquiry,
because I think the reason we had the long lockdown
was because we weren't front of the queue as was
promised for the vaccine, which is one of my chief
(14:21):
beefs when it comes to beef. Yeah, I know, I
know every now and again, and broadcasting a.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Really good one.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Sounds like a title.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
I think the thing is is and I know it's
the word that was being bandied about the entire course
of the pandemic, but it was unpresced into times. Because
it was unpreced into we actually obviously didn't know what
we were doing, and we were just muddling through trying
to stop the amounts of deaths and and produce the
amount of deaths. And by muddling through, there was always
going to be something that wasn't going to work or
wasn't going to be ideal for some pocket of the population.
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We were never going to get it right the first time.
That's right, But I'm also going. We're learning from this
for the next time. I'm sure as hell hope there
isn't a next time.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
And that is what this is all about. It's like
and yes, we don't want.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
We don't want them, but.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
We have to be prepared, prepared, So this is going
to be interesting to see.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
What I do remember is in the first lockdown, we
tought our kids to bike ride and we went all
over Auckland. It was it was at quite a unique
time where you could go for a bike ride and
if your kids happened to be riding in the middle
of the road, there was no other traffic. And we
actually compiled I used to film it. In fact, I
got told by police officer once I was riding on
the races, you can't film my we're riding. I was like,
(15:34):
I'm hardly likely to crash it, am I? Anyway, all
four of you and we compiled the video and I
think one of the TV news things played a segment
of the Beverages on Tour sort of thing. I turned
it into a video with the Austin Powers theme underneath it.
Beverages bike around Auckland.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
It was just a routine thing. You do it every day.
You just kind of let's go yes, pretty far, nothing
else to do.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I just remember lots of fine days I remember.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
About it was. I do remember the fine days well.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
I remember about being a reporter at that time, and
because I was reading news in the studio but also
out in the field, and because there was a social
distancing thing, and I remember having to go up to
try and voxy people or get little sound bites for stories.
And you couldn't go up to people really closely, so
we'd put these microphones on these like two and a
half meter sticks, and you'd be running over to people
in the middle of a field with this giant boomsticks.
We knew nothing to try and be like, how are
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you finding lockdown or how are you keeping active in lockdown?
Or you know what's your Yeah, it was just weird.
While its fun times fun, maybe not sound.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Look, we're going to be back in just a moment.
This is the panel, Wilhelmina and Neva. We're just going
with first names now.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
I think I'll be like Sharon Madonna, what a vibe.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
We'll be back in just a moment. I'm Tim Beverage
Weekend collected with twenty three past three New stalks, he'd be.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
You are my can.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
And you got me? Yes.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Welcome back to the Weekend Collective. And and a musical
intro which isgest that my very young producer has quite
mature musical tastes. Anyway, this is the Weekend Collective and
we're with with willelmin and shrimp men ne never Wetty.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
For a living broadcast and not talking.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
It's followed them. Are there some combinations that you dread
of words? Were you thinking I better practice that again?
New York?
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Last Ditch? You know how that ends up? Last?
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Did yes?
Speaker 5 (17:38):
Really fast?
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Shoes? Shoes's name?
Speaker 5 (17:43):
So fast?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
What's the problem? Okay, Hey, look, we've got a couple
of law and order topics to get out of the
way gang members. This doesn't seem to me to be
much of a surprise, but it's been revealed that gang
members are using regional airports to run drugs because well,
obviously there's not much scanning that goes on the airports.
But I don't tend to worry too much about these
stories because we're reading it about it in the media.
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Something tells me that the police are probably onto this
and have made some arrests, and maybe that avenue is
about to close. But probably a bit difficult to close
that avenue around the country, isn't it. You want to
get drugs around the country, just go region to region,
just avoid Aukland, Wellington, christ Church willemina a comment.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
It definitely doesn't seem like a surprise at all. I mean,
you go to the regional check in at Auckland Airport
and you dump your bags on the bag drop and
then you you know, grab a subway on the way
or a coffee and then you just tottle straight onto
the plane. You don't have to go through any security
checks whatsoever. But if the okay regional airlines, right, they're
taking it around the country, what's the difference between putting
it on a plane versus driving it in a car?
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Is just going to be a bit faster, right, So
if they introduce more security, they're going to find another
way to do it, and that's via car or bike
or train or whatever.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
And the whole thing is too, like with the regional airports,
is that it's the costs. It's the money that's going
to you know, behind it all. But the other thing
too is that in New Zealand and you know, the planes,
was passengers ninety or more. I mean that's the one
with the screening, so anything you know obviously with regionals,
but it's different because there's a fine line with the
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you know how they word it, with the aviation security.
So the aviation security, you mean they're looking for anything
that's going to like for firearms or knives. That's what
they're looking for. They're not looking for drugs. I mean,
that's a totally that that's other people, that's police, and
that's what they're saying. And it's like, well, well, who's
going to be in charge of that? And if they
do this, like as you say, how much is that
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going to cost me money?
Speaker 3 (19:37):
A couple of things that reminds me. I bring some
jasmine tea in a plaster bag which I lift fell
on the poor and someone's like, someone's left the stairs.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Here a bag full of tea.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Actually, I think one of my collegues is that'll be
Tim's jasmine tea. I think, severe disappointment. But I just
wanted to touch on there. I loved your touch there,
Wilhelmina Shrimpton, where you became a woman of the people.
There where you said, you know when you're traveling and regionally,
you just grab a subway and hop on the plane
as if you're not heading straight to that Cory Lounge
for the free.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
Little chucky fish. Let me tell you, I've only even
been in the lounge a few times, so this is
a whole new thing for me. But just just just quickly,
I think the thing is that the focus should be
on actually intercepting drugs before it reaches our borders. You know, yep, okay, cool.
There's obviously a shortfall and there's obviously a weakness and
the chain here. But if we're going to put all
this money into trying to stop it from moving from
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you know, kai Korda, you know, down to Wellington or
you know what, where's another region down south in.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
That's why you're here, because you've nailed that a ship.
It's it's it's the big international borders.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
That's the thing. There's reasons should be stopping it from
getting here in the first place. It's not about adding
extra security to pat people down to make sure they
you know, grab their bags of whatever it is. Their
bags are jasmine tea exactly.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
And that's the one Christmas they use that as a euphemism.
Have you got the tea? Have you got the and that,
ladies and gentlemen, if you're listening, is why we have
the quality guests we have with the never ready money
and Wilhelmie just now when I say you're terrified anyway,
by the way, on the Laura Order front Auckland CBD
to get a new police station, yay, fantastic. It does
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seem a nice coincidence that it's tied into the new
police commission taking out of Richard Chambers, who from what
I hear from the frontline police, I know they love
them anyway, new police station. And I'm looking at you, Neva,
you look at me like I've just.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Oh no, because because interrupt, because people say, oh you
just talk too fast, or you talk too much. Just
wait till other people stop talk.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
More finished, you may speak neither. What do you reckon?
New police station?
Speaker 4 (21:42):
I love this idea because and I know I'm in Aucklander.
We're here in Auckland and we've all been crying, you
know that we need this and crime as you know,
like no one's coming into the CBD. But the other
thing too, when you think about Auckland, it's the biggest
city in New Zealand. There's tourism and we know that
no one's coming into the CBD and it's crime written
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for not just look at all the businesses that have
had to leave, residents and apartment dwellers. I know that
there has been some criticism of people saying, well, look
where's the money coming from. It's coming from the recruitment budget.
That's you know, for this new police station, and so
you know there's a bit of that, but I think no,
they still need. The priority in my eyes, is for
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this Federal Street police station.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
To come just the right message and appearance for the
police and our major city in New Zealand. You'd think
would have a police station at the heart of it,
and it will so well. I think.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
The other thing, oh sorry, the other thing too is quickly,
can't shut me up, is just of what is happening
to the College Hill. You know there's that police station
that's just up there in it not far from Ponds Well.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
To be honest, that's pretty much they don't want it.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Yeah, they'll just have to kind of like fine tune
net and have the one in Federal Street as the
main hub.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
I remember back in the time when we had a
Fort Street police station, and that made a massive difference
to all those big nights in town with young people
going out and partying, and you know, just having the
visibility on the street is a massive thing. But I
remember doing the story in twenty twenty two and I
did a big kind of investigative piece around street safety
in the decline that had occurred across all of our
major centers, and that was mainly as a result of
COVID and people coming out of the city, the demographics
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of the city completely changing. Lots of that hotel accommodation
suddenly became used for social housing purposes and that changed
the demographic of the city and it made people feel really,
really unsafe. So this has been going on for a
long long time. This issue was finally finally something's been
done about it. And I remember going for a police
ride along as part of that story, and I remember
(23:39):
the cop at the time telling me that normally there's
I think there were six patrol cars traditional normally on
an average night patrolling all Concentral. That night there were
only two on because they just didn't have the staff.
So can you imagine trying to patrol all of Auckland
City with two patrol cars, so two officers per car overnight,
overnight overnight.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Yeah, oh you can't.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
What's it like doing a ride a long.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
I've been on a few now, a couple of Saint
john A couple like a few with police.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
I think I think that Saint John's'll be the tougher one,
wouldn't it.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Well, the Saint John when you're not in the car,
you're in the ambulance patrolling. You just wait for a
call out and you go with them. I remember doing
a story around synthetic cannabis and went out to synthetic
cannabis call outs. But police, you're actually with two you know,
duty constables driving around. You drive around and the radio
is going off for the next thing, you know, Priority one,
the P one and the whoop. If you go to
the call out and you get out of the car
(24:29):
and yeah, you know, it's full noise. I got My
producer was out with me at a different car and
he got caught up in the middle of an armed
standoff outside Aukland Hospital at the time, which was for
the street safety story. So yeah, it's it's pretty pretty wild.
And they go through a lot and even the cops
on the front line say that they feel unsafe because
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there is so much violence out there at the moment.
And that was in twenty twenty two. I can't imagine
what it's like now.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Well, apparently the city does. They really have done quite
a good job with on foot patrols and police presents
at making the city see at least a lot safer,
because I think a year or two ago, the stories
are just terrible stories.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
And the beautification of the city, Like you go down
to downtown now and it looks a lot better.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Yeah, it does down there lower Queen Street. And I
think now too that it's it's in summer, it's Christmas
is coming. They put up that big steel tree down
and lower Queen Street. So there's a bit of a
vibe going on in the last couple of weeks, and
so they just you just want to keep that momentum going.
And that's the first time I can say that I've
felt this positive vibe for Auckland, CBD, because prior to that,
(25:35):
I just wouldn't even come into the city. I think,
oh right, it was a sad state of affairs.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
It was sad, and it was tired, and it was empty.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Yep, And even if I'd have friends or family coming
up from down country and that, and it's almost embarrassing,
you know, you don't really want to take them into
the CBD area. But now because negative. But now, what
I'm saying is that that's exchanging.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
I'm just thinking what an indictment that was.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
I want to know what they're going to do with
the IMAX building because that is sad. So down the
bottom of Queen street's really nice and it's getting a
bit of energy and a bit of a vibe. Yes,
top of Queen Street, though it is still a bit
tired and sad, and it's like an empty shell lit building.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Yeah, hey, lou moving over to Australia. I still haven't
quite worked out what I think of this, But my
instant reaction to the Australian ban on social media for
under sixteens as a parent is I kind of love it.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
I do.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
I love it?
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah, I quite like it. And I don't buy these things.
So it's going to I mean some of the things
saying it's going to force kids onto the dark web.
No it's not. It's going to force them maybe to
I don't know, to text their friends or what's happened,
We'll pick up a book or something. I mean, the
social media or the dark web is not the equation.
It's I just think it's a tool for parents to say, well,
i'd love to give you a social media account, honey,
(26:51):
but unfortunately you're not old enough. Willemina, what do you reckon?
Speaker 5 (26:55):
I think it's great, but how on earth are they
going to police it? And I know it's about you know,
submitting your identification and that type of thing, but kids
get fake IDs. There are way to get around it.
I think it's great. I think the one thing I mean,
I don't have kids, and I'd love to have kids
at some point, but when I do, the one thing
that I think about is my childhood versus what theirs
will be. Is that it's there's just way more out
(27:16):
there to folly around. You know, bullying at school, you know,
used to stop it to stop when you leave the
school gates, but it follows you home, it's online, it's
on apps, it's there's a lot to manage.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Lucky, my kids actually haven't really shown much there. How
old that twelve and almost fourteen they do what's that
for messaging? Because they're just busy with things and they
communicate with their friends about, you know, rehearsals for this
and dance for that, but they haven't shown any interest.
In fact, one of them's almost been put off because
she was late to get a phone, and she sees
a lot of her friends just gazing into their phones
(27:49):
all the time, and it's like they're just sort of I.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Was going to go to what age were they when
they got their phone?
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Well, we gave Rosie hers early because we're off to
Europe and so we did want to have a phone
just in case because you get paranoid and so eleven,
but thirteen really for Lily were their first smartphone. The
other Lily had a phone. She just had a dumb phone,
like literally.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Like the old thirty three an emergency phone, yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Or you know the bus is about to arrive at
the stop, dad, or whatever that sort of thing. But yeah,
I'm whatever Back's parents up to try and keep their
kids away from the digital world.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
YEP, I think this bean is good. I mean it's
fifteen and under, sixteen and under, you know what I mean. Look,
you can't vote, you can't drink, you can't drive, well,
you don't be on flip and social media either. But
I know what you mean. There has been this mixed
reaction to this across the teesman and you know there
are people who are saying in groups that are saying,
(28:49):
you know, it still has there's some positive aspects of
social media, and I'm thinking, well, what are they for me?
They didn't actually say what they were.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
What they said minority groups could find a sense of community,
So like the LGBTQ plus.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Actually may be, but I just don't think all, yeah,
more harm, more harm.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
To connect with texts and whats happened things like that.
But the idea that somehow people can't find happiness without
social media, what.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
I mean, fantastic.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Seriously, that's got to be the most pathetic argument you
can make, that people somehow can't be happy unless they're
head down, bum up in their face and the fun.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
And let's reduce the percentage of young people who are
aspiring to be influencers as well, because that's concerning in itself,
that the choice.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Get freebies and stuff like that.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
Yeah, why are they doing it? It seems to be
the easy option, doesn't it.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
But I think you're right there will demeanor it's how
they police that and that's going to be those platforms
like TikTok, Google, Insta. You know, how is this going
to work over there?
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Yep, indeed be looking at it right. Well imagine we
will wonder which part of people will be into that first,
who knows, wait and see. But anyway, guess what we're
going to take a moment come back. It's twenty and
a half minutes to four new stalks. He'd be, Oh,
(30:26):
I wish we could run the cameras when we're coming
out of the brakes, just to see these celebrate celebrations
that are going on in the studio. My guests for
the panel Wilhelmina, Shrimpter and Neva Retti. Manu, I'm Tim Beverage.
Now I do need to correct the record on something
though very serious issue rose just in the break that
in fact, Wilhelmina did not have Corey membership. She's at
pains to point us, I don't belong to the crime membership.
(30:49):
I've got elite status through Ben because he gave it
to me because I'm a plus one, but I don't
have crew membership.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
Just need it's a very recent occurrence, and you know
what I'm I'm I love the breakfast in the morning.
The ks revived, actually almost upgrading.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
When you say I don't have Crow membership, I have Elite.
If you're listening, Hi, Ben is listening.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Potentially we've got one listener.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Go hell, hey, look guys, Black Friday. You know what
I forgot that it was a Thanksgiving related thing because
about two months ago we had a Black Friday Friday
the thirteenth, and I thought this has been dragging on
for a while. Of course, sales, yes, the Black Friday sales.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
This is the best time of the year.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
You know what, if you get in your car and
you go to the one of the malls to do
some shopping, I think you need to have a bit
of a rethink because you know what, you can do
it online. If you've got something you need, Why would
you expose yourself to the traffic sort of chaotic hell
that isn't entailed with the weekend like this. I mean, Wellemina,
are you a Black Friday girl?
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Or look I love a sale. She loves a sale.
Never buy never buy anything full price. By the way,
always google a discount code before you buy anything online.
Google the brand that you're about to buy from Plus
discount code. Let me tell you you'll find at least
ten percent off little or.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Become like on Facebook to just look her up on
Facebook and ask to be friends.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
She discount. But no, I I really enjoyed Black Friday.
But I'm luck. You know, I don't go into the malls.
I buy everything online. I'm a big online shopper. And
I noticed that a lot of brands now are actually
doing their Black Friday sale and the lead up to
Black Friday. So Black Friday I think was yesterday, the
twenty ninth, and I've seen a couple of brands who
(32:39):
actually did their Black Friday sale, started it and finished
it before the actual day. So I'm assuming that's to
kind of capture as much you know, attention and sales
as possible. But I think it's a great It's great
for business. Lord knows that a lot of retailers need
it right now. All of the credit all the if possum.
Did you know credit card electronic transaction spenders down like
(33:00):
significantly at every quarter at the moment, So I think
they really really need the boost. And I think if
you can get that boost a month out from Christmas,
plus have the boost from Christmas. I think it's great.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Neither have you ever seen Wilhelmina look so serious about
a super when it come to shopping.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Shopping Seriously, there's no holding this sister bag letter go
litter my bag.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
Yeah, I'm going to go bag.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Girl's going to go forward. But look, I've got to say,
the Black Friday sales have got to be good sales.
They can't be this piddlish middly at least well, I
was going to say fifty to seventy yees, Sam, Yeah,
you to me, because I guess you say about online.
I mean, you can get really good sales anywhere. And
(33:44):
I was at Saint Luke's yesterday, Now that was the
Black Friday, and it was I was talking to some
of the retailers there and there was not anyone there.
They were saying, it's just like a normal Friday for them.
And this was at one o'clock in the afternoon, because
Saturday afternoon it's Saint Luke's mall. And it was and
I think, too, like this is the other thing too,
(34:07):
Black Friday. I was confused. I remember, you know, like
Ryan Bridge a week ago did his editorial on Black Friday.
The week before because he thought that was Black Friday
instead of this week.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
He's like me, all the ads have been.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Running for weeks in advance. What the hell is that?
Speaker 5 (34:24):
That's like the online focus one, I think, or it's
just an extension of Friday on Monday. I believe so.
And then you've got things like online Shopping Night throughout
the year. And look, I just think it's a money
what it's just about. If it was only one day,
they just extended it out right to try and make money.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
You want to go for it, and it's a good
excuse to go shopping, then take it.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
Do you Christmas shopping now?
Speaker 3 (34:46):
But here's the thing. This is the I don't know
if this has been much of a surprise, maybe a
little bit. Seventy six percent of the hundred most popular
products last year, we're more expensive on Black Friday than
at other sort of sale times throughout the year. So
that I don't know what that tells you. But you see,
let's face it, if you miss Black Friday, there'll be.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Another four weeks ago. I bought a new bed right
and that wasn't Yes, that wasn't a you know, on
Black Friday sale or whatever. And then I said to
the guy, or do you think that's going to come
down even further for Black Friday? No, no, no, this
is probably going to be the best deal. No it didn't.
I did have to check. But I'll just say this
(35:29):
very quickly. But there was the bed in the bass,
and the mattress and the bass. But when it arrived
and I'm in an apartment, and I said, you know,
it's queens size, it'll fit in the lift. You know,
my old bed has gone out to someone else and
they've got it in the lift. Blah blah blah. Anyway,
the delivery guy, the other guy was six. So there
was one person, one delivery man who tuned up with
the bed and it didn't fit into the listvot yes
(35:53):
I did. I felt like Ross and Rachel and it
was me And so we had to climb ten flights
of stairs. So the guy said to me, okay, so
can we put this mattress in the space. Can we
put this bed somewhere and store it by your car
in the basement? Wait, no, we can't, We can't. And
I was so tired. It was a Tuesday, eleven am.
I said, it's got to go up there. And I
(36:14):
said we can do this and find a solution. So
we walked up ten flights.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
Of Stare Well, my god, by the way on the drive,
you can never you know, you can never move that
apartment now, you can never forget apartment now.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
It was a good joke, but he didn't get it.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
I said, friends, Fan, I love him.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
You're on the bargain thing. You just need to take
a leaf out of one of our colleagues book who
was looking to buy a new car, and there was
a car listed on the lot from I think it's Yonda,
And she went and she said, I'm going to buy
a new car, and I'm going to leave in half
an hour and I want that one, but you come
and make me an offer that I can't refuse in
the next half an hour otherwise I'm leaving. And they
knocked seven grand off what And she was driving, She's
(36:51):
literally in her car and there was a tap and
wound the windo up, started her car and there was
a tap tap tap on the window.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
Oh my god, So you got to you got to
play hard. Actually, there's lots of places that you don't
actually know that you can haggle it. So like no
le mean and all that type of stuff, right, Well,
sarahs we.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Got to go.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
Free pillows.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Okay, it's zip at sweetye. It's ten to four. Yes,
welcome back to the Paneli'm Tim Beverage and my guests
are Wilhelmina Shrimpton and Neva Retti. Manu Jaguar. There's a
rebrand of Jaguar Jaguar. I always used to say Jaguar.
I don't know what I'm saying differently. Anyways, I would
describe it as a fairly horrific rebrand. But Jaguar has
(37:30):
urged people to trust and reserve judgment over the rebrand
of the car maker, which is best probably described by
the Late Night to TV host Stephen Colbert.
Speaker 6 (37:40):
First, they redid the logo. Here's the old one with
the badass kitty cat. Here's the new one. Joguar looks
like a luxury condom brand and an Eastern europe In
an Eastern European dance club. Oh don't worry, honey, baby.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Nicolai has Joguar jog War, which to me actually did
sum up. When I looked at the logo and he
mentioned that that comparison, I thought he's right, But it
doesn't and and the ad features a lot of, I
don't know, very modelly, trendy looking people of it's very
colorful and no cars. Wilhelmina. Have you seen the ad?
(38:21):
Do you think they've committed suppuku?
Speaker 5 (38:24):
It's completely weird and it's it kind of reminds me
one of those super niche you know, high end fashion,
you know videos that are so incolerate inside that no
one actually gets it. It made me think of actually,
have you guys seen Pitch Perfect? I think yes, and
we are sound Machine. It made me think of the
sound the Sound Machine. Guys. It's just it's just so
(38:48):
weird in the fact that there's no car in it.
But but but we're all talking about it, talking about it,
so regardless of whether you hated your love it, they're
getting a lot of your time.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
And that's what they wanted and that's what they wanted
and that's what they've got because people like this is
weird question question, But it's millions of viewers, millions of
people who have been on social media. And I thought, well,
the you go, that's what you call a success.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
I guess if you think of the typical Jaguar buyer,
are they going to be impressed and looking forward to
buying their next car. Are they going to shift to
I don't know, Mercedes or Western Martin or were you looking.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
At about some of their previous ad campaigns, which I
think had a string of Bond villains in it, or
various villains from particular movies, and I think that the
tagline was like it's good to be bad or something
like that. You know, it's this gnarly kind of all
a little bit bad villain villain type person. And then
now it's this weird kind of color all we are
do sound machine kind of because.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
Coming out in two days what well, you know, like
they'll know that the vehicle the car.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Oh, I don't know. I'm not even interested in the car.
That's their problem. I don't care about the car, or
I think it is what a bunch of numb skulls.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
What I have really enjoyed, though, is that the remix
of the various ad campaigns that have made appearances on
social media. So some people have actually used AI to
change the a cup of the video, and I think
there's one where there's actually a real jaguar that jumps
in and starts attacking all of the people in the
in the video. So I mean there might not be
the Jaguar car, but there's the Jaguar cat cat.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Yeah, it isn't like a nice little pussy cat. I
actually look, have we got time? No, we haven't got time.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
That's the visits so fast.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Well it does when you're hanging out with me.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
It's all about we always have fun.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
We always okay, right, let's shut these guys. MIC's off
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So come on then, had a very good afternoon to you.
I'm Tim Beverage. Welcome today's to today's show, The Weekend
Collective the Saturday, the thirtieth of November. I tell you what,
we have cameras in the studio and I'm gonna have
a chat with the boss and see if we can
get them rolling. Whenever my panelists are on the show,
(01:02):
because it's it's it's dinner and a show today. Well
it's radio and a show, should I say? Anyway, Hey,
looking forward to introducing my panelist in just a moment,
very esteemed, well one of them as anyway. Anyway, now
they're claiming which one it is four o'clock. Just looking
a little bit of ahead. Will be taking your calls
on one hundred and eighty ten eighty and text on
(01:23):
nine two nine two for four o'clock. The one Roof
Radio show, Debbie Roberts, we're gonna have a chat about
the ocr cut, but whether actually you know there was
a time when real estate just felt like the Darling
investment of Kiwi's. Is it there now or is it
gonna be or ever again? Or we have a chat
about that a little bit as well. At five o'clock
for the Parents Squad, Catherine Burkett joins us on pressuring
your kids into well maintaining some of the things they've
(01:47):
committed to, but doing things perhaps they don't want to anymore.
And shortly before sex will look ahead with the sports rap.
But right now it is eight minutes past three, which
signals time for our panelist. My first look. She reads
the news from time to time and she just won't
stop going on about all the awards she's won. I
think I don't know how many it is now so
thirteen or something's never They don't know which one it is,
(02:09):
never ready, Marno, neither it's you. I'm introducing you.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Well the other one is one awards. I thought, God,
it could be here as well. She's scared you it
wasn't you because you haven't won? Are you?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Oh my god? Where have we gone with the start
of the show. We're already I'm already a sorry, hey,
how many wards is it now? Thirtyteen thirteen? But who's counting? Actually,
come on, it is a silly number of awards, isn't it.
I mean it's ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Look, has there been my time to throw it in
anyone's face?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
But has there been a time when you've won the
award and you've sat there and it's like the drum
roll and the winner is never ready marnin and you
sort of just roll your eyes and going, of course
it is.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
The time will come. It'll be this year that I've
drinxed it now that I won't win, And I am
very very honored to have one in the past where
I'll be thinking, my gosh, I've won so many times now,
I know, be funny to feel like a loser. Now
I must know how everybody else in the world feels.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
So oh my god. Okay, look, I think we better
look and settle yourself down, have a cup of hot tea,
and lie down. My next panelist, she is well, Look,
she's besotted, she's bewitched. When she was recently ruled she's
recently ruled to be legitimately on side by international rugby
(03:31):
referee being O'Keeffe who she is so in love with,
so in love and you can read about it and
I'm not sure which magazines, but probably all of them.
Wilhelmina Shrimpton, Hello, Willemina.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Hello.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
I'm glad that's the only thing that exists in my CV,
the fact that she's in love. What about my bloody awards?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yeah, my awards on the major piece of news you've
told us today upon your rival. You've set a date,
I have, and you are very happy and you're glowing,
so I think it's good to find that. It's good.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
We're going to play a wedding song in and out
of you your break this time we did, last time
we did.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Anyway, So you've set a date. I mean, you can
keep that to yourself. But you've got a long engagement
coming up, isn't you.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
It's about a year away. That's the pretty standard.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
When you said a year away, that tells me you're
going to have at least one hundred guests. I don't know,
it's sort of.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Like a rule of thumb like that one twenty she's
only got tea that would be cheap though, that would
say so much money. Oh my god. Some part of
me monts to just have teas.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
But I just the main reason. Look, we have a
fun with it. But it's just nice because it's nice
to celebrate good news and you're clearly you know, you're
rocking and rolling and it's great.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Absolutely, that is a very very exciting time news on
the weekend.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Really yeah, I want to ask questions, but no, that
secrecy and privacy that can.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Put pressure on a relationship. With the planning of a wedding.
My advice to Ben would just be to say, yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
I'm pretty relaxed. I mean, and I have done this
once before.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
So as Winspinster Abbey, was that available, did you?
Speaker 5 (05:07):
Oh, we put it. We put in a good word,
you know, put the email in waiting to hear back.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
He'd be quite good. He'd give you the world. So
whatever you want, you can have it.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
I'm kind of like you, whatever you want, whatever you want. Oh,
that's all good, it's very very chill. Let's see how
it goes in six months time. Oh yeah, there's a budget.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
There is a budget.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Yeah yeah, what is.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
It like a labor government budget or a national goverment that.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
We're not fasically responsible, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Grant Robertson's in charge of the Actually, there are a
few MP's are celebrants, aren't They feel like every lot of.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
People in this newsroom that are celebrants.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Everyone's celebrating a celebrant.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
No, I'm not a lot of broadcasting people are. I
think I might be the only one who isn't.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
Sim can you become a celebrant?
Speaker 3 (05:54):
You can do I'm not. Actually, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
She's fantasted.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Is good?
Speaker 4 (06:02):
I think she's in demand, Ginny Woods, I think she
is kind of Heaps of people out there.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Can give us. I reckon, you should get someone funeral. No,
I've got it.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
We've got the whole.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
I know who it should be, and we just need
to get them qualified. I reckon, you need the You
need Elliott Smith as the voice of Rugby to call
the wedding including imagine that and the briders were dressed
in white, no surprises. They're making a strong run down
the sideline there.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
I can imagine that Elliot would do a.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Job of that. Oh my gosh, very on brand. I'm
full of good ideas, full of good ideas.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Okay, now, look, look there are some sad things to
talk about to start the show with them, to switch
things around. And I think probably we were all, I
guess a little bit shocked at the news of the
death of Nicky Kay, former National Party minister, but the
sadder news that her father and suc comed only a
few days later. Neva, what was your.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Actually, I just this story just really struck a chord
with me and I'm sure a lot of our listeners
and everyone else here in New Zealand. But I mean,
Nicky Kay, aged forty four, died of breast cancer and
that was last Saturday, so a week ago. And then
the news I think the Herald had a story on
it yesterday that the death of her dad, prominent lawyer
(07:16):
Peter Kay, had died just days after she had died.
So here you have, aged seventy seven, this double tragedy
for the k family. I mean, my heart goes out
to them, really, I mean, and it's just both of
them have contributed so much, you know, like to the country,
and I just thought, you know, I was reading all
(07:36):
the tributes and everything, firstly of you know, like Nicki Kay,
for Nicki Kay, and David Farrow, who's been a longtime
friend of hers, and he's said some amazing things. But
one that just made me laugh a bit as well was,
you know when Nicki was the Orkland Central MP, and
he said that he recalled someone from the Mayor's office
dreading you know, Nicki's meeting with the mayor. Because the
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average MP would come up with one or two, you know,
ideas or options to talk to the mayor. But Nicki
would come into the office and she'd have twenty five
to thirty things, a list of things that she wanted,
you know, Okay, we're going to discuss this, you know,
and it just goes to show just a passion and
you know what she felt, you know, everything that she did,
(08:16):
you know for the community in Auckland Central and great
Bury Island.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Yeah. I think she just seemed like an amazing role
model of determination and people who said, don't stand for
Auckland Century, You're not going to you know, there's no
chance you'll want it. And she was a great MP
for Auckland Central. Will I mean, what are your thoughts
about everything?
Speaker 5 (08:32):
I think that no matter what side of the political
spectrum you sat on, that everyone had a lot of
respect for her for her hard work and her determination.
And one thing that I didn't realize that I read
earlier today was that Sir john Key was saying that
at the time that her diagnoses diagnosis came out, that
she was actually a lot sicker than what they put
out there publicly, which and she decided to continue working
(08:55):
through that. And I think that's just a testament to
how dedicated she was to the role and the effect
that she had on people, and that she wanted to
keep going and keep continuing. And you know, reading that
it was something that he felt kept her going for
so long. It gave her another ten years. You know,
that passion, that drive, it was the reason why she
got up in the morning. And seeing all of the
tributes come through and from all walks of life, young, old,
(09:17):
And I love how she ready captured the younger generation
as well, which was so important. She really really really
cared about what the younger generation of voices had to say,
and I think she was a great representation of that.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I think also there was I think the time at
the time of some of the commentary about how she
was a cross party. You know, she was always willing
to work with people across the party spectrum. It is
quite a good example for people probably right now to
be reminded of that that we don't need to be
sa partisan and everything.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
And differently, hearing about the strong friendships that she had.
I know Mamama Davidson as well. You know, I think
she was one of the first people to tell her
about her diagnosis too. And hearing about those type friendships
whether or not you were blue or green or yellow
or whatever, it was ridical.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
My favorite story, my favorite story was the one David
Pharaoh by the way on kiblog dot court at and
he was a very close friend. He's gotten a lovely
tribute to her with some funny stories. As he says,
Nikki had severe arachnophobia. She couldn't manage being within ten
meters of even a daddy long legs or even a
plastic spider. I convinced her to come to the premiere
of Lord of the Ring's Return of the King electing
(10:17):
to mention Sea Lob. Wouldn't you have loved to watch
an Iraq reaction to that scene.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
But the other good thing too, I think that it
was really good too that when Nicky k died like
she wanted privacy, the family wanted privacy, and they got that.
And I'm pleased that that did happen because you know,
they had a private cremation on the Monday, and then
they released that information, you know, and the media knew
(10:49):
by Tuesday all the following day. Now, you know, in
New Zealand, things get leaked and people would know. And
I think but I think that was respectful and that's
the way that she wanted it, and that's the way
the family wanted it. And I'm really pleased that that
did happen for her. And now hearing about the news
about the dead, you know.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
So hard for that family, Yeah, so hard for that family.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Absolutely. Well, onto other things political stories. I guess the
COVID inquiry has been released. It makes a bunch of recommendations.
I think the thing for me is that I'm still
waiting for part two. It's like I almost know what
the scene now, it's like, wait for the sequel. The
(11:31):
interesting the quirky thing about it, regardless of what the
report said, which probably wasn't any surprise to any of us,
was that there was a question about whether it was
going to be released straight away because the Herald had
reported that Brook van Velden had previously said she wouldn't
release it until the second phase. But then Tony Blakeley,
who wrote the thing who cheered the inquiry should I say,
(11:52):
said there was no reason why not to be released,
and all of a sudden it was released. So there
we go. We all get to read it. Will you
read it?
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Probably not the whole however many it was seventeen Probably
not the whole. One was one hundred and seventeen pages.
I really don't need to go, do you know the
summary page? They can go. No. Of course someone's going
to compile all the main points out of it. But
I also feel like a lot of these points are
pretty obvious and pretty self explanatory, you know, planning for
(12:19):
multiple periods of times, looking at all aspects of people's lives,
not just health. And I know that was a real
issue when it came to MiQ. You know, everyone had
this blanket approach in that MiQ lottery, but they weren't
taken into account individual circumstances. And I remember that was
the big thing around, you know, Charlotte Ballace, who was
pregnant at the time, trying to come back and I
know there was a lot of outrage around that, and
(12:41):
there was just this blanket approach one size fits all,
but actually everyone's circumstances were different. It should have been
judged individually based on whatever they were going through at
the time.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Was a lot of it too, you know, like the
prolonged lockdown specific for Auckland twenty twenty one, and I
think that was one of the key things as well,
you know, like looking at the report and then it
just brought everything back to me. You know, I was thinking, gosh, remember.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
The one.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Conferences with old Ashley and you know, you'd be at home.
But I think because we were news people and here
at ZIB, we you know, didn't work from home. And
I was really grateful that we did that. We were
actually you know, in our newsrooms and we had to
come in and we were masked up and there would
only be like two three people and a huge, huge newsroom.
But the one PM presses that became, you know, like
(13:31):
mandatory viewing for everyone, and it's something that we all
used to look forward to.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
It was kind of, yeah, who's on our show for
politics tomorrow? Jessica, No, because Ashley.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Doing a little dance of success. Don't celebrate until he's
actually here. But yes, we have got actually did. I
think there'll also be a lot of light I mean
our second lockdown in Auckland, but I think part of
there'll be more light shed on that by the second inquiry,
because I think the reason we had the long lockdown
was because we weren't front of the queue as was
promised for the vaccine, which is one of my chief
(14:21):
beefs when it comes to beef. Yeah, I know, I
know every now and again, and broadcasting a.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Really good one.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Sounds like a title.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
I think the thing is is and I know it's
the word that was being bandied about the entire course
of the pandemic, but it was unpresced into times. Because
it was unpreced into we actually obviously didn't know what
we were doing, and we were just muddling through trying
to stop the amounts of deaths and and produce the
amount of deaths. And by muddling through, there was always
going to be something that wasn't going to work or
wasn't going to be ideal for some pocket of the population.
(14:57):
We were never going to get it right the first time.
That's right, But I'm also going. We're learning from this
for the next time. I'm sure as hell hope there
isn't a next time.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
And that is what this is all about. It's like
and yes, we don't want.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
We don't want them, but.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
We have to be prepared, prepared, So this is going
to be interesting to see.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
What I do remember is in the first lockdown, we
tought our kids to bike ride and we went all
over Auckland. It was it was at quite a unique
time where you could go for a bike ride and
if your kids happened to be riding in the middle
of the road, there was no other traffic. And we
actually compiled I used to film it. In fact, I
got told by police officer once I was riding on
the races, you can't film my we're riding. I was like,
(15:34):
I'm hardly likely to crash it, am I? Anyway, all
four of you and we compiled the video and I
think one of the TV news things played a segment
of the Beverages on Tour sort of thing. I turned
it into a video with the Austin Powers theme underneath it.
Beverages bike around Auckland.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
It was just a routine thing. You do it every day.
You just kind of let's go yes, pretty far, nothing
else to do.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I just remember lots of fine days I remember.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
About it was. I do remember the fine days well.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
I remember about being a reporter at that time, and
because I was reading news in the studio but also
out in the field, and because there was a social
distancing thing, and I remember having to go up to
try and voxy people or get little sound bites for stories.
And you couldn't go up to people really closely, so
we'd put these microphones on these like two and a
half meter sticks, and you'd be running over to people
in the middle of a field with this giant boomsticks.
We knew nothing to try and be like, how are
(16:23):
you finding lockdown or how are you keeping active in lockdown?
Or you know what's your Yeah, it was just weird.
While its fun times fun, maybe not sound.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Look, we're going to be back in just a moment.
This is the panel, Wilhelmina and Neva. We're just going
with first names now.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
I think I'll be like Sharon Madonna, what a vibe.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
We'll be back in just a moment. I'm Tim Beverage
Weekend collected with twenty three past three New stalks, he'd be.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
You are my can.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
And you got me? Yes.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Welcome back to the Weekend Collective. And and a musical
intro which isgest that my very young producer has quite
mature musical tastes. Anyway, this is the Weekend Collective and
we're with with willelmin and shrimp men ne never Wetty.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
For a living broadcast and not talking.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
It's followed them. Are there some combinations that you dread
of words? Were you thinking I better practice that again?
New York?
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Last Ditch? You know how that ends up? Last?
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Did yes?
Speaker 5 (17:38):
Really fast?
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Shoes? Shoes's name?
Speaker 5 (17:43):
So fast?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
What's the problem? Okay, Hey, look, we've got a couple
of law and order topics to get out of the
way gang members. This doesn't seem to me to be
much of a surprise, but it's been revealed that gang
members are using regional airports to run drugs because well,
obviously there's not much scanning that goes on the airports.
But I don't tend to worry too much about these
stories because we're reading it about it in the media.
(18:07):
Something tells me that the police are probably onto this
and have made some arrests, and maybe that avenue is
about to close. But probably a bit difficult to close
that avenue around the country, isn't it. You want to
get drugs around the country, just go region to region,
just avoid Aukland, Wellington, christ Church willemina a comment.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
It definitely doesn't seem like a surprise at all. I mean,
you go to the regional check in at Auckland Airport
and you dump your bags on the bag drop and
then you you know, grab a subway on the way
or a coffee and then you just tottle straight onto
the plane. You don't have to go through any security
checks whatsoever. But if the okay regional airlines, right, they're
taking it around the country, what's the difference between putting
it on a plane versus driving it in a car?
(18:43):
Is just going to be a bit faster, right, So
if they introduce more security, they're going to find another
way to do it, and that's via car or bike
or train or whatever.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
And the whole thing is too, like with the regional airports,
is that it's the costs. It's the money that's going
to you know, behind it all. But the other thing
too is that in New Zealand and you know, the planes,
was passengers ninety or more. I mean that's the one
with the screening, so anything you know obviously with regionals,
but it's different because there's a fine line with the
(19:13):
you know how they word it, with the aviation security.
So the aviation security, you mean they're looking for anything
that's going to like for firearms or knives. That's what
they're looking for. They're not looking for drugs. I mean,
that's a totally that that's other people, that's police, and
that's what they're saying. And it's like, well, well, who's
going to be in charge of that? And if they
do this, like as you say, how much is that
(19:36):
going to cost me money?
Speaker 3 (19:37):
A couple of things that reminds me. I bring some
jasmine tea in a plaster bag which I lift fell
on the poor and someone's like, someone's left the stairs.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Here a bag full of tea.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Actually, I think one of my collegues is that'll be
Tim's jasmine tea. I think, severe disappointment. But I just
wanted to touch on there. I loved your touch there,
Wilhelmina Shrimpton, where you became a woman of the people.
There where you said, you know when you're traveling and regionally,
you just grab a subway and hop on the plane
as if you're not heading straight to that Cory Lounge
for the free.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
Little chucky fish. Let me tell you, I've only even
been in the lounge a few times, so this is
a whole new thing for me. But just just just quickly,
I think the thing is that the focus should be
on actually intercepting drugs before it reaches our borders. You know, yep, okay, cool.
There's obviously a shortfall and there's obviously a weakness and
the chain here. But if we're going to put all
this money into trying to stop it from moving from
(20:29):
you know, kai Korda, you know, down to Wellington or
you know what, where's another region down south in.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
That's why you're here, because you've nailed that a ship.
It's it's it's the big international borders.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
That's the thing. There's reasons should be stopping it from
getting here in the first place. It's not about adding
extra security to pat people down to make sure they
you know, grab their bags of whatever it is. Their
bags are jasmine tea exactly.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
And that's the one Christmas they use that as a euphemism.
Have you got the tea? Have you got the and that,
ladies and gentlemen, if you're listening, is why we have
the quality guests we have with the never ready money
and Wilhelmie just now when I say you're terrified anyway,
by the way, on the Laura Order front Auckland CBD
to get a new police station, yay, fantastic. It does
(21:13):
seem a nice coincidence that it's tied into the new
police commission taking out of Richard Chambers, who from what
I hear from the frontline police, I know they love
them anyway, new police station. And I'm looking at you, Neva,
you look at me like I've just.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Oh no, because because interrupt, because people say, oh you
just talk too fast, or you talk too much. Just
wait till other people stop talk.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
More finished, you may speak neither. What do you reckon?
New police station?
Speaker 4 (21:42):
I love this idea because and I know I'm in Aucklander.
We're here in Auckland and we've all been crying, you
know that we need this and crime as you know,
like no one's coming into the CBD. But the other
thing too, when you think about Auckland, it's the biggest
city in New Zealand. There's tourism and we know that
no one's coming into the CBD and it's crime written
(22:05):
for not just look at all the businesses that have
had to leave, residents and apartment dwellers. I know that
there has been some criticism of people saying, well, look
where's the money coming from. It's coming from the recruitment budget.
That's you know, for this new police station, and so
you know there's a bit of that, but I think no,
they still need. The priority in my eyes, is for
(22:27):
this Federal Street police station.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
To come just the right message and appearance for the
police and our major city in New Zealand. You'd think
would have a police station at the heart of it,
and it will so well. I think.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
The other thing, oh sorry, the other thing too is quickly,
can't shut me up, is just of what is happening
to the College Hill. You know there's that police station
that's just up there in it not far from Ponds Well.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
To be honest, that's pretty much they don't want it.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Yeah, they'll just have to kind of like fine tune
net and have the one in Federal Street as the
main hub.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
I remember back in the time when we had a
Fort Street police station, and that made a massive difference
to all those big nights in town with young people
going out and partying, and you know, just having the
visibility on the street is a massive thing. But I
remember doing the story in twenty twenty two and I
did a big kind of investigative piece around street safety
in the decline that had occurred across all of our
major centers, and that was mainly as a result of
COVID and people coming out of the city, the demographics
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of the city completely changing. Lots of that hotel accommodation
suddenly became used for social housing purposes and that changed
the demographic of the city and it made people feel really,
really unsafe. So this has been going on for a
long long time. This issue was finally finally something's been
done about it. And I remember going for a police
ride along as part of that story, and I remember
(23:39):
the cop at the time telling me that normally there's
I think there were six patrol cars traditional normally on
an average night patrolling all Concentral. That night there were
only two on because they just didn't have the staff.
So can you imagine trying to patrol all of Auckland
City with two patrol cars, so two officers per car overnight,
overnight overnight.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Yeah, oh you can't.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
What's it like doing a ride a long.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
I've been on a few now, a couple of Saint
john A couple like a few with police.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
I think I think that Saint John's'll be the tougher one,
wouldn't it.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Well, the Saint John when you're not in the car,
you're in the ambulance patrolling. You just wait for a
call out and you go with them. I remember doing
a story around synthetic cannabis and went out to synthetic
cannabis call outs. But police, you're actually with two you know,
duty constables driving around. You drive around and the radio
is going off for the next thing, you know, Priority one,
the P one and the whoop. If you go to
the call out and you get out of the car
(24:29):
and yeah, you know, it's full noise. I got My
producer was out with me at a different car and
he got caught up in the middle of an armed
standoff outside Aukland Hospital at the time, which was for
the street safety story. So yeah, it's it's pretty pretty wild.
And they go through a lot and even the cops
on the front line say that they feel unsafe because
(24:50):
there is so much violence out there at the moment.
And that was in twenty twenty two. I can't imagine
what it's like now.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Well, apparently the city does. They really have done quite
a good job with on foot patrols and police presents
at making the city see at least a lot safer,
because I think a year or two ago, the stories
are just terrible stories.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
And the beautification of the city, Like you go down
to downtown now and it looks a lot better.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Yeah, it does down there lower Queen Street. And I
think now too that it's it's in summer, it's Christmas
is coming. They put up that big steel tree down
and lower Queen Street. So there's a bit of a
vibe going on in the last couple of weeks, and
so they just you just want to keep that momentum going.
And that's the first time I can say that I've
felt this positive vibe for Auckland, CBD, because prior to that,
(25:35):
I just wouldn't even come into the city. I think,
oh right, it was a sad state of affairs.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
It was sad, and it was tired, and it was empty.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Yep, And even if I'd have friends or family coming
up from down country and that, and it's almost embarrassing,
you know, you don't really want to take them into
the CBD area. But now because negative. But now, what
I'm saying is that that's exchanging.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
I'm just thinking what an indictment that was.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
I want to know what they're going to do with
the IMAX building because that is sad. So down the
bottom of Queen street's really nice and it's getting a
bit of energy and a bit of a vibe. Yes,
top of Queen Street, though it is still a bit
tired and sad, and it's like an empty shell lit building.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Yeah, hey, lou moving over to Australia. I still haven't
quite worked out what I think of this, But my
instant reaction to the Australian ban on social media for
under sixteens as a parent is I kind of love it.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
I do.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
I love it?
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah, I quite like it. And I don't buy these things.
So it's going to I mean some of the things
saying it's going to force kids onto the dark web.
No it's not. It's going to force them maybe to
I don't know, to text their friends or what's happened,
We'll pick up a book or something. I mean, the
social media or the dark web is not the equation.
It's I just think it's a tool for parents to say, well,
i'd love to give you a social media account, honey,
(26:51):
but unfortunately you're not old enough. Willemina, what do you reckon?
Speaker 5 (26:55):
I think it's great, but how on earth are they
going to police it? And I know it's about you know,
submitting your identification and that type of thing, but kids
get fake IDs. There are way to get around it.
I think it's great. I think the one thing I mean,
I don't have kids, and I'd love to have kids
at some point, but when I do, the one thing
that I think about is my childhood versus what theirs
will be. Is that it's there's just way more out
(27:16):
there to folly around. You know, bullying at school, you know,
used to stop it to stop when you leave the
school gates, but it follows you home, it's online, it's
on apps, it's there's a lot to manage.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Lucky, my kids actually haven't really shown much there. How
old that twelve and almost fourteen they do what's that
for messaging? Because they're just busy with things and they
communicate with their friends about, you know, rehearsals for this
and dance for that, but they haven't shown any interest.
In fact, one of them's almost been put off because
she was late to get a phone, and she sees
a lot of her friends just gazing into their phones
(27:49):
all the time, and it's like they're just sort of I.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Was going to go to what age were they when
they got their phone?
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Well, we gave Rosie hers early because we're off to
Europe and so we did want to have a phone
just in case because you get paranoid and so eleven,
but thirteen really for Lily were their first smartphone. The
other Lily had a phone. She just had a dumb phone,
like literally.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Like the old thirty three an emergency phone, yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Or you know the bus is about to arrive at
the stop, dad, or whatever that sort of thing. But yeah,
I'm whatever Back's parents up to try and keep their
kids away from the digital world.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
YEP, I think this bean is good. I mean it's
fifteen and under, sixteen and under, you know what I mean. Look,
you can't vote, you can't drink, you can't drive, well,
you don't be on flip and social media either. But
I know what you mean. There has been this mixed
reaction to this across the teesman and you know there
are people who are saying in groups that are saying,
(28:49):
you know, it still has there's some positive aspects of
social media, and I'm thinking, well, what are they for me?
They didn't actually say what they were.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
What they said minority groups could find a sense of community,
So like the LGBTQ plus.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Actually may be, but I just don't think all, yeah,
more harm, more harm.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
To connect with texts and whats happened things like that.
But the idea that somehow people can't find happiness without
social media, what.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
I mean, fantastic.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Seriously, that's got to be the most pathetic argument you
can make, that people somehow can't be happy unless they're
head down, bum up in their face and the fun.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
And let's reduce the percentage of young people who are
aspiring to be influencers as well, because that's concerning in itself,
that the choice.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Get freebies and stuff like that.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
Yeah, why are they doing it? It seems to be
the easy option, doesn't it.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
But I think you're right there will demeanor it's how
they police that and that's going to be those platforms
like TikTok, Google, Insta. You know, how is this going
to work over there?
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Yep, indeed be looking at it right. Well imagine we
will wonder which part of people will be into that first,
who knows, wait and see. But anyway, guess what we're
going to take a moment come back. It's twenty and
a half minutes to four new stalks. He'd be, Oh,
(30:26):
I wish we could run the cameras when we're coming
out of the brakes, just to see these celebrate celebrations
that are going on in the studio. My guests for
the panel Wilhelmina, Shrimpter and Neva Retti. Manu, I'm Tim Beverage.
Now I do need to correct the record on something
though very serious issue rose just in the break that
in fact, Wilhelmina did not have Corey membership. She's at
pains to point us, I don't belong to the crime membership.
(30:49):
I've got elite status through Ben because he gave it
to me because I'm a plus one, but I don't
have crew membership.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
Just need it's a very recent occurrence, and you know
what I'm I'm I love the breakfast in the morning.
The ks revived, actually almost upgrading.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
When you say I don't have Crow membership, I have Elite.
If you're listening, Hi, Ben is listening.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Potentially we've got one listener.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Go hell, hey, look guys, Black Friday. You know what
I forgot that it was a Thanksgiving related thing because
about two months ago we had a Black Friday Friday
the thirteenth, and I thought this has been dragging on
for a while. Of course, sales, yes, the Black Friday sales.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
This is the best time of the year.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
You know what, if you get in your car and
you go to the one of the malls to do
some shopping, I think you need to have a bit
of a rethink because you know what, you can do
it online. If you've got something you need, Why would
you expose yourself to the traffic sort of chaotic hell
that isn't entailed with the weekend like this. I mean, Wellemina,
are you a Black Friday girl?
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Or look I love a sale. She loves a sale.
Never buy never buy anything full price. By the way,
always google a discount code before you buy anything online.
Google the brand that you're about to buy from Plus
discount code. Let me tell you you'll find at least
ten percent off little or.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Become like on Facebook to just look her up on
Facebook and ask to be friends.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
She discount. But no, I I really enjoyed Black Friday.
But I'm luck. You know, I don't go into the malls.
I buy everything online. I'm a big online shopper. And
I noticed that a lot of brands now are actually
doing their Black Friday sale and the lead up to
Black Friday. So Black Friday I think was yesterday, the
twenty ninth, and I've seen a couple of brands who
(32:39):
actually did their Black Friday sale, started it and finished
it before the actual day. So I'm assuming that's to
kind of capture as much you know, attention and sales
as possible. But I think it's a great It's great
for business. Lord knows that a lot of retailers need
it right now. All of the credit all the if possum.
Did you know credit card electronic transaction spenders down like
(33:00):
significantly at every quarter at the moment, So I think
they really really need the boost. And I think if
you can get that boost a month out from Christmas,
plus have the boost from Christmas. I think it's great.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Neither have you ever seen Wilhelmina look so serious about
a super when it come to shopping.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Shopping Seriously, there's no holding this sister bag letter go
litter my bag.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
Yeah, I'm going to go bag.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Girl's going to go forward. But look, I've got to say,
the Black Friday sales have got to be good sales.
They can't be this piddlish middly at least well, I
was going to say fifty to seventy yees, Sam, Yeah,
you to me, because I guess you say about online.
I mean, you can get really good sales anywhere. And
(33:44):
I was at Saint Luke's yesterday, Now that was the
Black Friday, and it was I was talking to some
of the retailers there and there was not anyone there.
They were saying, it's just like a normal Friday for them.
And this was at one o'clock in the afternoon, because
Saturday afternoon it's Saint Luke's mall. And it was and
I think, too, like this is the other thing too,
(34:07):
Black Friday. I was confused. I remember, you know, like
Ryan Bridge a week ago did his editorial on Black Friday.
The week before because he thought that was Black Friday
instead of this week.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
He's like me, all the ads have been.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Running for weeks in advance. What the hell is that?
Speaker 5 (34:24):
That's like the online focus one, I think, or it's
just an extension of Friday on Monday. I believe so.
And then you've got things like online Shopping Night throughout
the year. And look, I just think it's a money
what it's just about. If it was only one day,
they just extended it out right to try and make money.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
You want to go for it, and it's a good
excuse to go shopping, then take it.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
Do you Christmas shopping now?
Speaker 3 (34:46):
But here's the thing. This is the I don't know
if this has been much of a surprise, maybe a
little bit. Seventy six percent of the hundred most popular
products last year, we're more expensive on Black Friday than
at other sort of sale times throughout the year. So
that I don't know what that tells you. But you see,
let's face it, if you miss Black Friday, there'll be.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Another four weeks ago. I bought a new bed right
and that wasn't Yes, that wasn't a you know, on
Black Friday sale or whatever. And then I said to
the guy, or do you think that's going to come
down even further for Black Friday? No, no, no, this
is probably going to be the best deal. No it didn't.
I did have to check. But I'll just say this
(35:29):
very quickly. But there was the bed in the bass,
and the mattress and the bass. But when it arrived
and I'm in an apartment, and I said, you know,
it's queens size, it'll fit in the lift. You know,
my old bed has gone out to someone else and
they've got it in the lift. Blah blah blah. Anyway,
the delivery guy, the other guy was six. So there
was one person, one delivery man who tuned up with
the bed and it didn't fit into the listvot yes
(35:53):
I did. I felt like Ross and Rachel and it
was me And so we had to climb ten flights
of stairs. So the guy said to me, okay, so
can we put this mattress in the space. Can we
put this bed somewhere and store it by your car
in the basement? Wait, no, we can't, We can't. And
I was so tired. It was a Tuesday, eleven am.
I said, it's got to go up there. And I
(36:14):
said we can do this and find a solution. So
we walked up ten flights.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
Of Stare Well, my god, by the way on the drive,
you can never you know, you can never move that
apartment now, you can never forget apartment now.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
It was a good joke, but he didn't get it.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
I said, friends, Fan, I love him.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
You're on the bargain thing. You just need to take
a leaf out of one of our colleagues book who
was looking to buy a new car, and there was
a car listed on the lot from I think it's Yonda,
And she went and she said, I'm going to buy
a new car, and I'm going to leave in half
an hour and I want that one, but you come
and make me an offer that I can't refuse in
the next half an hour otherwise I'm leaving. And they
knocked seven grand off what And she was driving, She's
(36:51):
literally in her car and there was a tap and
wound the windo up, started her car and there was
a tap tap tap on the window.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
Oh my god, So you got to you got to
play hard. Actually, there's lots of places that you don't
actually know that you can haggle it. So like no
le mean and all that type of stuff, right, Well,
sarahs we.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Got to go.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
Free pillows.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Okay, it's zip at sweetye. It's ten to four. Yes,
welcome back to the Paneli'm Tim Beverage and my guests
are Wilhelmina Shrimpton and Neva Retti. Manu Jaguar. There's a
rebrand of Jaguar Jaguar. I always used to say Jaguar.
I don't know what I'm saying differently. Anyways, I would
describe it as a fairly horrific rebrand. But Jaguar has
(37:30):
urged people to trust and reserve judgment over the rebrand
of the car maker, which is best probably described by
the Late Night to TV host Stephen Colbert.
Speaker 6 (37:40):
First, they redid the logo. Here's the old one with
the badass kitty cat. Here's the new one. Joguar looks
like a luxury condom brand and an Eastern europe In
an Eastern European dance club. Oh don't worry, honey, baby.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Nicolai has Joguar jog War, which to me actually did
sum up. When I looked at the logo and he
mentioned that that comparison, I thought he's right, But it
doesn't and and the ad features a lot of, I
don't know, very modelly, trendy looking people of it's very
colorful and no cars. Wilhelmina. Have you seen the ad?
(38:21):
Do you think they've committed suppuku?
Speaker 5 (38:24):
It's completely weird and it's it kind of reminds me
one of those super niche you know, high end fashion,
you know videos that are so incolerate inside that no
one actually gets it. It made me think of actually,
have you guys seen Pitch Perfect? I think yes, and
we are sound Machine. It made me think of the
sound the Sound Machine. Guys. It's just it's just so
(38:48):
weird in the fact that there's no car in it.
But but but we're all talking about it, talking about it,
so regardless of whether you hated your love it, they're
getting a lot of your time.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
And that's what they wanted and that's what they wanted
and that's what they've got because people like this is
weird question question, But it's millions of viewers, millions of
people who have been on social media. And I thought, well,
the you go, that's what you call a success.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
I guess if you think of the typical Jaguar buyer,
are they going to be impressed and looking forward to
buying their next car. Are they going to shift to
I don't know, Mercedes or Western Martin or were you looking.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
At about some of their previous ad campaigns, which I
think had a string of Bond villains in it, or
various villains from particular movies, and I think that the
tagline was like it's good to be bad or something
like that. You know, it's this gnarly kind of all
a little bit bad villain villain type person. And then
now it's this weird kind of color all we are
do sound machine kind of because.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
Coming out in two days what well, you know, like
they'll know that the vehicle the car.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Oh, I don't know. I'm not even interested in the car.
That's their problem. I don't care about the car, or
I think it is what a bunch of numb skulls.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
What I have really enjoyed, though, is that the remix
of the various ad campaigns that have made appearances on
social media. So some people have actually used AI to
change the a cup of the video, and I think
there's one where there's actually a real jaguar that jumps
in and starts attacking all of the people in the
in the video. So I mean there might not be
the Jaguar car, but there's the Jaguar cat cat.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Yeah, it isn't like a nice little pussy cat. I
actually look, have we got time? No, we haven't got time.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
That's the visits so fast.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Well it does when you're hanging out with me.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
It's all about we always have fun.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
We always okay, right, let's shut these guys. MIC's off
I Wonder Radio show No Sweeter Sweet.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
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