Full Show Podcast: 26 January 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
Got A Good afternoon. Welcome. This is the Sunday edition
of Weekend Sport on News Talk sad B. January twenty sixth,
Happy birthday ice hockey megastar Wayne Gretzky, Happy birthday Jose
Mourinho and happy birthday to a New Zealand cricket's cult
hero Chris Pringle celebrating today what about that over to
Bruce Reid all those years ago? I'm Jason Pines show

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producer Andy McDonald. We're here until three talking Sport T
twenty Franchise leagues continue to tempt our best cricketers to
become globetrotters. The Aussie Big Band just about finish the
final tomorrow night. The International League T twenty is underway
and the UAE goes for another couple of weeks. So

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to the South African T twenty competition and the Bangladesh
Premier League soon the IPL will roll around again, the
Caribbean Premier League, Major League Cricket in the US, THEE
hundred in the UK. New Zealand wicket keeper batsman Tim
Seifert is along shortly. He's just finished playing for the

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Melbourne Renegades and the Big Bash and has gone straight
to the UAE for the ILT. Twenty four days after
his last game for the Renegades, he played his first
one for the shah Jah Warriors. He must wonder sometimes
when he wakes up what day it is and what
country he's in. Looking forward to chatting to Tim Seifert
about the life of a globe trotting T twenty cricketer

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and whether he still has aspirations to play for New Zealand,
which I'm almost certain that he does. Keen also to
chat to you about a couple of T twenty matters.
We'll get to those other issues around today. X Games
gold medalist in the slope style Luca Harrington is with
us out of Aspen to reflect on his somewhat unexpected success. Yesterday,

(02:20):
We've got our women's champion at the Australian Tennis Open.
Madison Keys has won her first major men's final tonight
center v Zverev, Craig Gabriel out of Melbourne. On that
after one Logan Rogerson from Auckland FC ahead of their
A League football clash with Western Sydney Wanderers a bit
later on this evening, final stage of Cycling's too down
Under in Adelaide this afternoon a number of keiwis involved.

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Dell Woodford breaks that down for US. James mcconey as
well in his regular Sunday slot around one forty five.
But a live sport while we're on the air, in
the form of Super Smash cricket. They're back at Hagleyovland
christ Church Canterbury against CD. The women are underway at
twelve forty now CD can't make the top three in
the women's for next weekend's final series. Canterbury need to

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win to keep their hopes alive, and then the men's
game follows at four twenty five. By contrast, CD are
already confirmed for finals weekend at the basin next weekend,
but like their women's side, the Canterbury men need to
win to keep their hopes alive. We'll keep eyes on
Hagley Oval for you this afternoon. Please feel free to
get in touch at any time if you would like to, Oh,

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Speaker 1 (03:36):
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Speaker 2 (03:45):
Wicket keeper batsman Tim Seifert has enjoyed a very solid
first taste of the Australian Big Bash competition with the
Melbourne Renegades.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
What safe takes another ticket? Tap Tim? The cains are
crumbling in Geelong side. It takes a purty sit for
thirty two times into that. That's large from sifit got
it on the lake. He was after second dicker from

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the Kiwi.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Tim seifer is with us from the UAE where he
is now with the shah Jah Warriors. I want to
talk about Big Bash first time. Thanks for joining us.
Fox Cricket named you in their Team of the Season
for the Big Bash. How do you reflect on your
first Big Bash campaign?

Speaker 4 (04:30):
Yeah, thanks for having me. Yeah, it was it was
a good tournament.

Speaker 5 (04:34):
I think it's one of those tournaments that you look
back and it was Yeah, it was a good tournament,
but you always, you know, look to do better and
could have definitely done better in some games, but that's
sometimes nature of the beast.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
But on the whole, really.

Speaker 5 (04:49):
Enjoyed my first big Bash and did it well for
the team, which helps as well.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
You've been playing T twenty cricket for over a decade now,
two hundred and forty plus matches. You reckon, You've got
your batting game pretty much worked out now.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
Yeah, to be honest, you're always learning and that's one
exciting thing about playing and all these leagues around the
world that you are playing with and against the world's
best players, so you know, learning from them is also
part of being involved in some of these teams. But yeah, look,
I think the experience, like anything, no matter what you do,

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your game gets better and the conference you have gets
bigger as well. So yeah, very happy where my game
is at the moment, and hopefully it can keep on
going for another ten for another decade.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
I remember watching you early in your T twenty career.
You'd play a lot of scoops and ramp shots. Now
we're watching you're more of a power hitter. As the
way you bat in T twenty cricket evolved and changed
much over the years.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
I don't think it's changed too much.

Speaker 5 (05:56):
I think it's just understanding when those shots you know
are to come out and when it's sometimes a high
risk playing all those you know scoops and reverse sweeps.
You know they put pressure on the bowler, but they
also high risk shot, so it's about just picking the
right times to do them rather than just kind of

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having that as your first option and hoping for the
for the best.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
So it's probably.

Speaker 5 (06:22):
About more planning who you're going to play, when you're
going to use it, which will help that consistency.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
And alongside your batting keeping wicket as well, you're still
putting plenty of work into your wicket keeper.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
Yeah, I do.

Speaker 5 (06:34):
I think that's one of my other sides that you know,
for these teams is huge. So it's not just playing
as a badder players a wicket keeper as well, but
also if there was a local wicket keeper or someone
else is keeping.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
Just playing as bad and fielding.

Speaker 5 (06:54):
So it's always nice having you know, two options for
the selectors to pick your So yeah, definitely working hard
and we're keeping.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Still, how different is wicket keeping in T twenty cricket
when really only a handful of deliveries are actually going
to come through to you.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
Yeah, it's kind of it's a funny one.

Speaker 5 (07:14):
You don't touch more much in T twenty crickets, but
when you do, it's it's more likely an opportunity that
potentially could change the game.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
So it's mentally, you know.

Speaker 5 (07:24):
Expecting every ball is going to come to you, unlike
kind of red bull cricket. One day cricket. You know,
you just get the ball more often, so mentally it's
not as tough because you know you're getting that ball.
But T twenty it's all all upstairs thinking that you
are going to get the ball.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
So when you do get that opportunity, you take the most.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
You take the opportunity and bowlers always trying new things
in T twenty, they lots of variations. I imagine that's
about as difficult for you as a wicket keeper as
it is for a batsman.

Speaker 5 (07:52):
Yeah, it's it's definitely a format that the bowlers are
changing up their deliveries the most. That's where you know,
as a keeper, you don't try and guess what that bowling.
You just have a steady base and hopefully that allows
you to react as fast as possible and get those opportunities.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
So as you say, this is your first season just
completed in the Big Bash. But it's a two year
contract with the Renegades, isn't it. So you'll be back
next summer.

Speaker 5 (08:17):
Yeah, definitely be back next year. Touch with no injuries
or any of that. But yeah, it's always nice having
a two year deal. You know, some of these franchise
journey in for six weeks and tournaments over and you
go again. So it's nice to kind of build some relationships,
get to know the guys, the facilities. Marvel Stadium was

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at the Wicked as well. So yeah, very excited to
go back next year and hopefully it's a bit of
year for us.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
It's a really big league tim isn't it, The Big Bash?
Full of stars. Did you have any pinch me moments
across the last few weeks.

Speaker 5 (08:51):
Yeah, it does, because it's definitely a tornament you know
when you're when you're back home in New Zealand. It's
definitely a tournament that's watched so you know, you've been
watching the Big Bash for many years, watching you know,
the guys like Brendan McCallum and Chris Gay and you know,
all those superstars playing the Big best. So it was
definitely a tornament I hold of love to tick off

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and to being involved in it. You know, it's as
good as what I thought. The crowds. I think lowest
crowd was twenty thousand. The Amisphere atmosphere is just electric,
and yeah, it's just a great and great environment to plan.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
And the life of a T twenty franchise cricketer. Your
life means you're straight from there into the International League
T twenty and the UAE with the Shah Warriors. It
was only a couple of days, wasn't it between matches
for you Davis sort of wake up and wonder where
you are? Yeah, I do.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
Actually, Yeah, so I arrived here the other.

Speaker 5 (09:49):
Day three days ago and a bit a jet lag,
and I did wake up wondering where I was. So
I had to kind of have a little reminder that
I've just let it and do by.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
But yeah, that's all part and pass of it.

Speaker 5 (10:02):
There's so many tournaments around the world, you know, you
doesn't mean you're going to get picked up. You still
have to be performing and doing all that. But if
you are, opportunities do come about. And yeah, it's awesome
that these opportunities are coming about for me.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
And yeah, the old Miles is getting up.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
I bet, I bet they are. It's such a fast
and furious life, isn't it. The Big Bash is still
going the finals tomorrow night, You're already onto a different tournament,
so the overlap is there. Obviously you'll be disappointed not
to be in the Big Bass final, but is it
weird to think that you're just onto the next one
sort of just like that.

Speaker 5 (10:40):
Yeah, there's disappointing not to be in finals and every
tournament that you are involved and you want to go
all the way and win it. But at the same time,
you know, when if you do get knocked out, excuse me,
when you do get knocked out. You know, there's I
think there's five tournaments going on at the moment around
the world. So with that many tournaments, there's always people

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getting injured or opportunities coming up, so plans that are
available do get a phone call and you're away onto
these tournaments.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
So it's great also from a cricketing point of view,
it's you've got to adapt as fast as possible.

Speaker 5 (11:14):
You know, pittures in Australia are completely different from pitches
here in Dubai and you might not have a training
in between.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
Two to get used to them.

Speaker 5 (11:23):
So yeah, you've got to move fast on your feet.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
I think we're all pretty familiar with the Big Bash,
but the International League T twenty is a newer competition.
What's the standard like, Yeah, it's good.

Speaker 5 (11:34):
So it's a bit of a different one compared to
all the other tournaments.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
So you allowed nine overseas players.

Speaker 5 (11:41):
So and you're allowed to and you have to have
two local UAE players, So it's a high standard because
a lot lot of overseas players all around the world.
And yeah, I've only played one game, but we've got
a game this afternoon so against fellow kiwe Locky Ferguson,

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so yeah, it's going to be exciting. But yeah, it's
been a great standard from what I've seen.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
And you mentioned before, Tom, five different franchise leagues going
on at this time of the year, the Big Bash,
the ILT twenty over in South Africa, Bangladesh and others,
and with them falling where they do at this time
in the calendar. Can you see yourself playing much or
any cricket for New Zealand or even for Northern Districts
in the next few seasons or do you think that

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ship has now sailed?

Speaker 6 (12:30):
No?

Speaker 5 (12:30):
No, definitely not so yeah, finish here, start and then
I'll come back play for Northern Districts in the remaining
remaining one day games and four day games. So look,
I still want to play for New Zealand, still want
to play New Zealand and T twenties and odiis and
one of my big goals is try and make the

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next T twenty World Cup and ODIO World Cup in
a few years. I think the T twenty World Cups
next year and then the One Day World Cups in
a couple of years after that. So that's still my
main focus. But just the way that cricket is going
at the moment, I've just kind of gone about it
a different way with these franchise cricket leagues. But no,

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I still want to play for New Zealand as much
as they can, and also I'll be playing for definitely
Northern Districts when I'm available.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
That's good to hear. When it comes to playing for
New Zealand. The word mercenary has been thrown around a
lot when it comes to players like U Tim and
Luckie Ferguson playing on the T twenty circuit for the
reasons you've outlined. Do you know, though, where that leaves
you in the selection fold for the Black Caps.

Speaker 5 (13:37):
Yeah, I'm not quite sure, to be honest, I think
it's probably still a bit of a moving part. I know,
you know, the shrinking series that just went in Schranker,
they didn't pick many guys that weren't contracted, But at
the same time you know that.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
They are, you know.

Speaker 5 (13:57):
Looking to picking guys that aren't contracted I think for
Maine World Cups events and Big ICC events. So yeah,
hopefully you know that is a moving part. And hopefully
you know, there's a Pakistan series in New Zealand. I
think in March that I'll be available for, so hopefully

(14:17):
I'll be back and back in the Black ben good stuff.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
There's been a bit of talk about a New Zealand
side potentially entering the Big Bash. Are you in favor
of a concept like that?

Speaker 5 (14:29):
Yeah, I would be, now that I've been over there
and experienced it all. I think it would be amazing
to have, you know, started off with one New Zealand team.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
Ideally two would be great.

Speaker 5 (14:41):
It was quite funny I came home over Christmas and
it's actually closer to flight to New Zealand than it
is to Perth so from Melbourne, so you know the travel.
The travel shouldn't be an issue from that point of view.
But I think it would be great. You know, like
the football, like the league and the rugby union, so

(15:02):
I think it's definitely something that we can make possible
in the nephuge.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
And no doubt that there is enough talent in the
New Zealand talent pool to compete in the big bench. Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 5 (15:12):
I think one thing that they have as well is
that they know they do have three overseas players per side,
so you know, you you potentially bring that in with
the New Zealand team as well to even make that
team stronger. So we definitely have the pool to compete
and then you add a couple overseas in there as well.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
I think it'd be a great competition.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
And as far as the guys you've played with and
against over the years, I get the feeling you would
have established some fairly firm friendships. Do you still keep
in touch with other black Caps players even though you
sort of spread far and wide.

Speaker 5 (15:45):
Yeah, No, definitely still got my best mates in the
side and keep in touch with them, you know, my
side at the moment, We've got Sourdie Adam Milne and
there's a lot of key guys over here playing and yeah,
still got yeah, my good friends in the national setup.
So yeah, I always keeping in touch and it was
great to see them do well and then there and

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ex eciding time ahead with the champions trophy coming up
to Indeed.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
I wonder what it's like for you though, when you're overseas,
you're watching from Afar, watching the black Caps and if
they are struggling, watching and knowing that you know, if
you got the core, you'd have plenty to offer.

Speaker 7 (16:21):
What is that like?

Speaker 4 (16:23):
Ah?

Speaker 5 (16:24):
Yeah, you want to do you want to see them
do as well as possible, But sometimes that's sport.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
You can't always play your best game and all that.

Speaker 5 (16:32):
But yeah, no, I always enjoy watching them play and
hopefully more times than not it's a good day.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, indeed, And let's hope we see you back in
that Black Cap soon as well. Thanks. So much for
your time. Congrats on a really good Big Bash campaign.
Onto the next the ilt tweety appreciate you joining us
across New Zealand today.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
Awesome, thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Thanks for joining us, Tim, Tim Sipher then with us
on weekend Sport. Your chance to react to a couple
of really interesting comments actually that came up in that conversation.
Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty can open the
lines on this A key WE team in the Aussie
Big Bash? Yeah or nay? Tim Seifert says he's in
favor of it. He said, yep. Now I've played in it.

(17:14):
I can see the value of a New Zealand team
in the Big Bash? Are you in favor of that?
The big question around it is what it would do
to our domestic competition, our Super Smash. If we took
let's say fifteen players out of our domestic competition and

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they became the New Zealand side and the Big Bash,
what would that look like? Because presumably the local comp
would continue, We'd still have the Super Smash, but players
couldn't clearly play in both. The Aussie Big Bash of course,
would have to invite us in. You can't just enter.
You can't just say well, we'd like to play. They've
got eight teams currently, a couple from Melbourne, couple from Sydney, Hobart, Perth, Brisbane, Adelaide.

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They might be happy with eight. But is it a
conversation that we should proactively look to open eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty or actually should we be looking
to instead supercharge our super smash, try to attract some

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international players and a bit of star power to our comp.
I would love to see a few of the big
international superstars of white ball cricket playing in our comp
How good would that be? But it would need investment,
of course. So here's one idea I just sort of
came up with really on the fly as I was

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listening to Tim Seifer. Could, for example, there be a
central fund that New Zealand Cricket puts up and each
of the six provinces is allowed to use that money
or I guess apply for that money to recruit an
overseas player for their men's and women's sites. So funded
centrally by New Zealand Cricket, and that pot is available

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to all six and they would make their case to
whoever it was at New Zealand Cricket to say hey,
we'd like to get X y Z player here and
this is how much it's going to cost us, oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty because I feel as
though the Super Smash is still a very important part

(19:27):
of our cricket calendar. It's played in that period well
now obviously sort of between Christmas and the back end
of January. Finals weekend next weekend in Wellington, so that
it will be February one to two, So it's an
important windows. It's good viewing over the holiday period. I'll

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watch a lot of it on TV. It's free to wear,
but it could do with a bit of supercharging perhaps,
And there is so much competition now from the likes
of the Big Bash and the other competitions I mentioned,
like the South African competition. Devin Conway and Came Williamson
are both there at the moment, aren't they playing for
Wellington and Northern respectively. In fact, in order to play

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over in South Africa they had to turn down Central
contracts because they wouldn't be available for some white ball
internationals at the start of January. Still going to be
available when they get back obviously, but all of these
other competitions are looking to supercharge themselves, So why shouldn't
we Why shouldn't our super Smash be given a wi

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injection of star power? Became for your thoughts on that
and the concept of aside going into the Big Bash,
or even two as Tim Sithe had said, a couple
of sides going in there that would rarely dilute our
local competition. Of course it would. So which of the
two things should we be looking at? Putting more focus

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and energy and investment into our own domestic competition or
looking to get a north and a South side in
front of the powers that be of the Big Bash
saying hey, can we join in? Oh, eight hundred and
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we talk cricket for a week while lots of feedback
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they would love to chat to you. Spear line that, oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Which way should we
be looking? Should we be looking inward at our T
twenty competitions and looking to supercharge the super Smash and
give it a bit of a give it a bit

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of a boost, or should we be looking to tag
ourselves on to the Big Bash across the Tasman where
they've been going for quite some time now everybody who
goes there, and just listening to Tim Seifert, who for
the first time has play in this competition, talking about
the excitement levels. What did he say Their smallest crowd

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was twenty thousand. I know there's a lot more people
over there, but even so there seems to be a
bit of a bit of sparkle about it. Should we
be looking at opening a conversation with the powers that
be at the Big Bash and saying, hey, what about us?
Steve says Pinti, as anyone actually thought of asking the

(22:31):
Australians if they want us in their competition. If not,
it's a pointless conversation. Look, I don't know whether there's
ever been a conversation about it, and it would be
I sort of also wonder who would have the conversation.
Would it be new Zellen Cricket. I suppose it would,
but they're probably fairly reticent. I would say to, you know,

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to start talking about, you know, taking let's say fifteen
to twenty of our best players out of the Super
Smash and putting them into an Australian competition when they're
still trying to run their own Supersmash back here. But yeah,
of course it's not just something you can't just enter.
It's not one of those where you can say, yep,

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we'd love to play. Put us in. Obviously they would
have to. They would have to have to want us.
I mean, every every sporting organization has to innovate, has
to you know, has to has to want to improve,

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and that you know, you can't just sit still, Brian,
says Jason. Why would Australia want us in their Big
Bash comp It always makes me cringe, says Brian when
we start talking about wanting to join their various competitions.
We're like, this is a good phrase. We're like some
bottomless pit of neediness. Let's wash our own face and

(23:55):
sort ourselves out and stop being string the Aussies. Brian,
is not a bad point that you make. But I
guess if you're looking for evolution and looking for a
different way of doing things, is here to stay. There's
absolutely no question about that. It's here, and the calendar
is becoming more and more crowded. So if our own

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Super Smash is to retain relevance, then we have to
do something. Yes, it's a good domestic comp it is,
it's looks, and maybe it is what it is, and
it doesn't need to be any more than it is
our Super Smash, a place where you know, our top
domestic cricketers can play whiteball cricket, can get some experience

(24:38):
under their belts and if they are good enough, can
earn selection into the national sides, but also put themselves
in the shop window for other T twenty leagues. Maybe
the Super Smash doesn't want or need to be the
Big Bash or the SA twenty competition or the ILT twenty.
Maybe there just isn't enough resource investment over here for

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it to happen, So maybe we should just be happy
with it. I would like to think that we can
can perhaps be a little bit more innovative than that,
that we can try and find a way of taking
it to the next level, of attracting a few more eyeballs,
of adding a bit more star power. Wellington brought Elis
Perry over for a couple of games. For example, in

(25:24):
the Blaze side, they've sort of gone out shopping. There
have been instances, haven't there, of teams bringing in a
player from time to time, but it's not something that
is a regular occurrence in our T twenty competition. Would
you like to see it? They come that way, Let's
have two teams and the Big Bash says, well North

(25:47):
and South, and pick those teams from the Super Smash
shorten that comp I guess the difficulty is the calendar,
isn't it, Because the Big Bash starts before Christmas in
that middle of December period runs right through until now.
The final is tomorrow night as straighted day over there
of course, so it would be hard to to fit

(26:08):
in our Big Bash before it because you'd be starting
sort of way back October November when really it's the
holiday period that is the sweet spot for cricket viewing.
But yeah, why not two teams. If we are going
to look to join, why not the two teams, Josh says,
the Super Smash and Plunket Shilder on life supporter as
it is. If anything, New Zealand Cricket needs to pour

(26:29):
a heap of effort and money into them to keep
them alive. I think the Super Smash is okay. I
think our domestic cricket landscape is actually okay. It's not.
I don't think it's on life support. I think that
you know, there are good numbers I think tuning in
particularly on free to air, when I look at these crowds. Yes,
sometimes it's a bit sparse on some of these banks

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around the place, but over the holiday period there's there's
good crowds turning up to some of these venues to
watch outside of the main centers as well, the likes
of Nelson and Alexandra and New Plymouth and such like.
So I wouldn't agree that it's on life support necessarily, Josh,
but I would like, perhaps, if we are going to

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continue along this road, to do something to make it
just a little bit better. Twenty three away from one,
your thoughts on this are welcome. I eight hundred eighty
ten eighty speaking of the Super Smash Games today in
christ Church Hagleyoval between Canterbury and Central Canterbury have been

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sent into bat By Central in the women's game, which
is underway in about three or four minutes. We'll keep
eyes on that for you. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten
eighty nineteen nine to one text twenty three to one
back after this.

Speaker 8 (27:44):
You be the TMO.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Have your say on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
Weekends fort with Jason Hin and GJ. Garvnerholmes, New Zealand's
most trusted home builder News talks.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
There'd be news talks have twenty to one on text.
How to joining an ossie competition workout for our netpulus
or for supercars who were told he had to be
a city track or nothing. I think joining the competitions
worked out well for the likes of the Warriors, the
Phoenix and Auckland FC the Breakers. I think that's all

(28:15):
worked out. What it's done to our local competitions, I
guess is another conversation to be had, not that they
necessarily are played at the same time. You look at
at the A League for example, that has played between
October and May, so it doesn't cut across when the
national leagues are being played, although they do have their

(28:37):
conclusion at the back end of the calendar years, so
I guess they do cut across. Similarly, when the NRL
is on, there's the local domestic rugby league competition for
the breakers in the Australian National Basketball League that doesn't
cut across our national Basketball league. You often see players
playing in both. The difference with cricket, if we were
to have a couple of teams go and join the

(29:00):
Big Bash, it would immediately dilute our competition, and that competition,
if we're talking about dilution, is already missing some big stars,
Tim Seifert, Lockeye Ferguson both playing in the Big Bash
and then onto the ILT twenty came Williamson and Devon
Conway electing to play in South Africa instead of for
their provinces this summer. So any further dilution would just,

(29:23):
by you know, by pure logic, bring the standard down
of the Super Smash here in New Zealand. It would, also,
of course, if you want to counterpoint, that give opportunities
to younger players. Speaking of the A League, Wellington Phoenix
went to christ Yuch yesterday and took on the Central
Coast Mariners. They were back for the first time in

(29:43):
nine years, hadn't played in the Garden City since January
of twenty sixteen. A nil all draw between the Phoenix
and the Central Coast Mariners. Probably the big talking point
of the game were a couple of fairly decent penalty
shouts for the Phoenix, which weren't given either by the
onfield referee, Tim Dnaskus or on review by var Certainly,

(30:05):
I think there was possibly a case to answer for one.
Certainly one and maybe both of them. Here's gian Calo
are taliana, chief coach of the Phoenix. Afterwards, he was
asked about that. Did he think either of them was
a penalty?

Speaker 9 (30:21):
No, I don't know.

Speaker 10 (30:23):
First one momentum, I think they both go down at
the same time and then he can stand on his
feet and finish. But he chooses to to make another
player at the ball, and I think by that time
there's no advantage.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
Sorry, he has advantaged to shirt and.

Speaker 10 (30:41):
He doesn't, so I think to give a penalty might
have been harsh. The second one, I can't. I can't
make an assessment because of the angle. I think if
there was an angle that showed the ball from behind
the goal, I could make a better assessment. But I
couldn't see whether or if there was enough contact and
enough momentum.

Speaker 4 (31:01):
So you know, obviously the crowd, of course, they're patriotic. Yeah, yeah,
So all in all of do you think it was
a fear result?

Speaker 9 (31:10):
I think so.

Speaker 10 (31:11):
I don't think we I don't think we merited to
win on the basis of the quality of our chances.
The intent was to go forward and we had enough
opportunity to capitalize. But we're just final delivery play, being
in the right spot, miscontrol, maybe passes, not sticking the
way they should, maybe rushing sometimes when we had plenty

(31:32):
of space to capitalize. But again I can't fault the
intent of the players. I think they'll focus today. It's
just more about that care factor in that in that
final third that really hurt us.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Is that k factor something you think will come quickly.

Speaker 10 (31:49):
It takes time.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
I think, you know last week.

Speaker 10 (31:54):
I think last week against MacArthur, in the first half
we had plenty of opportunity, capitalized, just weren't making the
right runs. And then in the second half when Finknchi
came on, changed your game, you know, finding those passes. Today,
I felt as though we had plenty of opportunity. If
we're in the right position in the first half, we

(32:14):
won't second half was a little bit better, But again,
I think we're lacking maybe one playmaker in their bit
of speed that could have capitalized in those moments. And
to expect the younger boys to fully mature and be
that player, I'm not quite sure they're up to it
at the moment. I think you're going to have one
good performance, maybe a scattered performance, you know, up and down.

(32:36):
So my expectation isn't too high with those players.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
It will come.

Speaker 10 (32:41):
It's just a matter of riding out the ups and
downs like this.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
At the other end, just one goal conceded in three games,
two clean sheets in your last three. Defensive stability seems
to have improved. Are you happy with that?

Speaker 7 (32:54):
Of course?

Speaker 10 (32:55):
I think, you know, that's what we built the whole
season on last last year. We've changed the structure a
little bit for this season with the types of players
that we have available now, you know, we work very
hard on it. I think the messaging now is a
lot more simpler so the players can understand and also
you know, be positive with the player attributes that we have.

(33:19):
And the defending has also brought us some good chances
in the final third attacking half. So again the confidence
is coming, it's building, it's you know, just again just
more recognition of that last past, that final moment that
we need to be a little bit smarter with.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
So you don't plag in now until white there. Yes,
So what are you hoping for in terms of I mean,
could we see electrofer Tom Payne? Could we see a
new signing by then?

Speaker 10 (33:40):
Even I'm hoping a new signing by then, just if
we do decide to get a visa, it's more about
whether he you know, he'll get the visa, be ready
for the for the game. If we go down a
local option, then again that they would be immediate, I
guess so. But there's still plenty of water under that bridge.

(34:03):
So I'm hoping that pain is back. Chez really like today,
wasn't really sposed to play, but he played full ninety
and he'll be better for it. And I'm just thinking
there's one or two.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
Sorry, Payne will be back.

Speaker 10 (34:16):
You don't mention that, yes, sorry, RUFA again. He's progressing nicely.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
It's just.

Speaker 10 (34:25):
I think a little bit optimistic for Brisbane. Definitely think
I think we have victory the week after, so probably
maybe victory if not the week after. So yeah, I'm
just thinking there's anyone else.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
Marco is out for the season.

Speaker 10 (34:40):
So yeah, that's all we have at the moment.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Oh look him.

Speaker 10 (34:46):
Yeah, so he picked up a strainer training not yes say,
the day before. Just for precaution. We had to rest
him because there was a risk that it could reaggravate.
It was a big loss today just in terms of
balance and the starting team that we've had.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
So he should be back for Brisbane.

Speaker 7 (35:04):
That is.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Gian Calo Telliana to the Phoenix after their liltl draw
in christ Church yesterday. Just on the penalties, I thought
that was very diplomatic from Gianclovitaliano saying that he didn't
think they were I don't know if you've seen the footage.
I think there was a definite case for the second
of the two to be to be whistled up. What
happens in these situations is the onfield referee makes a

(35:27):
call and then the var video assistant referee has a
look at it. And alerts the referee if he thinks
there is further scrutiny required, And on both occasions the
Video Assistant referee told the onfield referee that actually know.
But it took a long time for both actually, but

(35:47):
on neither occasion did Tim danaskus the referee get summoned
over to the pitch side screen to have another look
at it. The thing that I guess I think in
these situations is if one or both were given as penalties,
would the var have a look and overturn that on decision?
And I think the answer to that in both cases

(36:09):
is no, because the VR is there is there to
you know, to oh, it's got quite complicated recently, but
it's there to avoid the howler where an on field
decision has been made or not made and it's a
howler and so you can you can right that wrong.
But I think of either of those penalties as given,

(36:29):
then the VAA doesn't overturn anyway. We move on from that.
I thought the crowd in christ Yutch yesterday was terrific.
Well done to the fine footballing folk of the Canterbury
Regent who turned up in good numbers over fourteen thousand.
There I know they don't get a lot of a
league football down there, in fact done for nine years,
but still you still have to turn up and I
thought they did in really good numbers. And the game

(36:51):
was at Apollo Project Stadium, you know, it's where the
Crusaders play. It's the temporary stadium. And we spoke to
Caroline Harvey tear CEO Venues of Tatahi on the show
yesterday about the imminent arrival of Teka the new stadium
in April of next year, and while that's being built,
they continue to use the stadium at Addington. I actually

(37:12):
thought yesterday it was a really good venue for football.
It's rectangular for starters, which has as an advantage over
Sky Stadium in Wellington. It's nice and intimate. It's yes,
it's got a bit of a temporary feel about it,
but it's always been that way. You know, a bit
of scaffolding and you know you're climbing up stairs which
are attached to scaffolding and all that sort of thing.

(37:34):
But for a venue, I really liked it. You know,
obviously it's going to be decommissioned in about eighteen months
or so when Tekaha is built. But for the Phoenix's
purposes yesterday. I thought it was a really good venue
and a good crowd turning out. The only thing I
couldn't work out yesterday apart from the penalty shots, but

(37:56):
the only thing that really had me scratching my head
was why Wellington Phoenix decided to wear their chain strip.
Wellington Phoenix, as you probably know, are a team that
wears yellow. Yesterday they came out in their chain strip,
which is a charcoal color. It's a dark color, and

(38:17):
the Central Coast Mariners, who also wear yellow, were able
to wear their yellow strip at the home, albeit the
home away from home of the Wellington Phoenix. All of
the crowd who turned up there yesterday were in Phoenix gear,
which is yellow. But the team they're supporting out there

(38:37):
is wearing a dark strip and the Mariners are wearing yellow.
Maybe it's not such a big deal, but it just
seems so odd to me and people tuning in, maybe
for the first time. I know, I anecdotally messages saying, oh,
you know, I thought we were the ones in yellow,
but no, we were the ones in charcoal. The reason
for it, as I understand it, is a commercial thing.

(39:00):
The front of shirt sponsor for the home strip. The
yellow one is different than the front of shirt sponsor
for the away strip, and each of those two sponsors
is duty bound by contract to have so many games
per year. That's why sometimes the Phoenix wear their away
strip at home. I get that, but I wouldn't have

(39:22):
chosen yesterday. I would have chosen the game against a
team that doesn't wear yellow for starters. I would have
worn it against an Adelaide or where red or perth
or were purple. I just it might sound like a
simple thing, but it was such a little strange, strange
little sidelines today where fourteen thousand fans turned up and

(39:43):
yellow to chair for the Phoenix. They weren't wearing yellow.
Eight away from one, News Talk.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
Zeb breaking down the Hail Mary's and the epic fails
weekends for it with Jason him News Talk.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Zenb five to one couple of messages on the Chaine
strip in the football. Assuming it is to do with
the number of expos a certain partner gets, says this one,
then print a yellow set and a black set for
each partner. Then allocate the partner's an equal number of games. Yeah,
that sounds sensible through here, I bought tickets for my
parents who live in christ Church and this is the

(40:20):
message they sent me after the first few minutes, Dad
and I want to know which one is? Are yellow
or gray? Case in point of how confusing this was
for first time or casual fans. Thanks for your text.
And that was a definite penalty. Miss says. This one
the problem with VAAR as they are so inconsistent. That
would have been a penalty in another game and I've

(40:41):
seen far less given as penalties. Thank you for your
calls and your correspondence. We'll get back into football after two.
Auckland FC have their next assignment tonight. They're playing the
Western Sydney Wanderers at Combat Stadium in Paramatta. Logan Rogerson
was the scorer of a lastmen an equalizer midweek against
Adelaidies on the Show with Us and the Wellington Phoenix
women play at the same time against the Central Coast Marinis.

(41:04):
We'll get inside their camp as well after one clock.
They're going to focus our attention on the tennis. We
have our women's singles champion at the Australian Open and
it's Madison Keys for the first time is a major champion,
beating double defending champion Arena Saberlenka. Tonight it's one v
two Center v Zverev and the men's final, so we'll

(41:26):
preview that for you as well.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
It's the only place to discuss the biggest sports issues
on and after field.

Speaker 8 (41:33):
It's all on Weeja SPD with Jason Pade on your
home of Sport, New York.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
Seven past one. Welcome into the show. This is weekend
Sport on News Talk SEDBAT. In an hour or so,
going to chat to Luca Harrington. He is a name
that perhaps not many of us would have been familiar
with forty eight hours ago, but yesterday he became an
Ex Games gold medalist in the men's slope style. Zoey

(42:02):
Sadowski Senate did the same of the women's slope style.
We ch had it to her yesterday. Luca Harrington with
us after two o'clock this afternoon. The other interesting part
of this is that he's back at action in a
few hours time. In the big air. The bigger is
the one where they do just the one jump. The
slope style is when you do a number of tricks
on the way down, so that's what they both won yesterday.

(42:23):
Zoey Sadowski and Luca Harrington. Yes, a luka with us
in around an hour or so, James mcconey. This hour
we're going to talk some tennis very shortly with Craig
Gabriel reviewing the women's singles final last night, previewing the
men's singles final tonight from the Australian Tennis Open your
thoughts on the tennis as well, and was it okay
to boo Novak Djokovic? Was that actually okay? We didn't

(42:48):
really get the chance to chat about this yesterday, so
be keen if you've got some thoughts on that. Just
before we get to the tennis, updating Live Sport from
Hagley Oval in christ Church where the Central Hines won
the tys and sent Canterbury into bats in the women's
Super Smash through seven overs the Canterbury Magicians as they're
not forty for one, forty for one in the seventh

(43:10):
or just after seven overs, so going along nicely to
start there. We'll keep you updated on the women Supersmash
the men to follow. But to the tennis. Madison Keys
is a Grand Slam tennis champion at the forty sixth attempt.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
Mason Keys You're a grass Slam champion.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
What incredible tennis and what a match? What a match? Inde.
The twenty nine year old American Madison Keys has upset
top seed and double defending champion Arena Sabolenka six three, two, six,
seven to five in the final. Craig Gabriel joins US
from Melbourne. What a few days it's been for Madison Keys, Craig.

(43:57):
She beat Egish Fiontech in the semi final, the world
number two, now Arena Sabolenka in the final, the world
number one. How has she done it?

Speaker 6 (44:09):
Tunnel vision? This was her time.

Speaker 11 (44:12):
The number of players past and present that have saluted
her on social media is pretty phenomenal. And in twenty seventeen,
she reached the final of the US Open and lost
to Sloane Stevens, who was one of her really good friends.
And Sloan has tweeted it's never been a case of if,

(44:33):
but it always has been a case of when, and
absolutely excited for her and it's one of the most
popular victories in the women's locker room.

Speaker 6 (44:44):
There's no two ways about it.

Speaker 11 (44:46):
The smile on her face, the tears of joy were
just absolutely brilliant and what she achieved by beating a
world number two in the semis and then the world
number one in the final is an amazing achievement.

Speaker 6 (45:03):
It's not something that's done too often.

Speaker 11 (45:05):
I think Arena Williams was the last one to do
something like that, and so that's that in itself is
incredibly special. So all around, this has been an amazing
not just this tournament, but these few weeks in Australia
because she came into the Australian Open having one adelaide,

(45:26):
so obviously she loves playing in Australia because she's one
adelaide before. So yeah, maybe we should just adopt her.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
Perhaps so, But do you think in her heart of hearts,
in her deepest, darkest moment, she might have thought, having
been forty five Majors without a win, that it just
wasn't going to happen for her.

Speaker 11 (45:48):
Well, look, you know with all the players there, so yeah,
there are doubts and all that, but at the same time,
they have to have belief.

Speaker 6 (45:55):
If you don't have belief, you might as well not
walk on the court. And there was that, but she
said that she had started working with.

Speaker 11 (46:07):
In therapy to give her some of that understanding as
to why things were not happening. She said, initially she
did it for the sports aspect, but she's now done
it for the personal aspect. And she said she was
admitting things that she hated to admit and she never
wanted to and didn't like doing. But she said it's

(46:28):
helped her on the mental side of her approach to life,
but also to her professional career. So it's all fallen
into place. She's going to be ranked at a career
equal best of seven in the world, so it's all fantastic.
And she and she puts away three and a half million.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
Dollars twenty nine years old, now medicine case. Could she
having won one now, Craig win a few more?

Speaker 6 (46:55):
Why not?

Speaker 11 (46:57):
I mean, you get the monkey. If you're back the
first time and doors start to open, there is this
level of confidence. I don't expect her to go winning
week after week after week, title after title. That's not
going to happen. That's you know, that's for some of
the freaks of the game. But you know, I dare
say she could suffer a bit of a letdown after this,

(47:19):
because you're such an adrenaline high that once these sort
of things are done. There's sort of like an empty feeling,
and you know, I wouldn't be surprised if she loses
her next few tournaments, but then she'll get back on
track and pick things up again.

Speaker 6 (47:34):
But absolutely the door is open for her to win more.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
For every elighted winner, there's a disappointed loser. Tell us
about the demeanor of Arena Seblinka, Well.

Speaker 11 (47:45):
There's a lot of frustration that came out of her
because she really wanted an obviously soul to put her
name into into the history books or rewrite some of
it by winning a third title in a row, which
hasn't been done for twenty five plus years. Martina Hingis
was the last one to do it from ninety seven
to ninety nine. So you know, there was that frustration

(48:08):
that came out at the end when after they shook
hands and the rackets you used in the match.

Speaker 6 (48:14):
Will not be used in the tennis match again.

Speaker 11 (48:17):
So it was a mess, but you know, and then
she left the court and she said, I needed to
get off the court. I needed some time to myself
and to compose, you know, to be a bit more composed.
When she went back for the presentation ceremony and she
gave a very gracious speech at the end.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
SO men's singles final tonight in the top two seats
defending champion Yannick Center against Alexander Zverev, who's still looking
for his first major. When could Ziev perhaps take some
inspiration from Medicine.

Speaker 11 (48:46):
Keys, Absolutely well, I wouldn't say so much from Madison Keys,
but I think he's he's got the determination to do it.
He can absolutely do it. You know, he desperately wants it.
He's made that clear. He's been in two finals previously.
The US Open was the first one. He lost to
Dominique team and after having championship points, and then he

(49:09):
lost to Kalas Alcarez in the French Open final. So
he feels it's his time now and he wants to
wants this very badly. He says it's something he's dreamed
of since growing growing up. But then he's got the
world number one on the other side of the court
as well, who is just so amazing at the moment
as an individual, as a tennis player. So I hope

(49:33):
and I would expect we're going to see an amazing
tennis match. I wouldn't say the women's match was that great,
except for the last few games when it got really
quite thrilling. But I think, you know, we could see
one that's going the distance tonight.

Speaker 6 (49:47):
Absolutely, I don't know. I mean my.

Speaker 11 (49:50):
Initial thought all along with the tournament has been sinner
to repeat. But I just feel there is also that
that situation. As I was saying about, it's very I
feeling it's his time. So you know, whoever wins is
going to be a worthy champion.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Just on Center, he's been imperious straight sets wins. That's
quarter has seen me. I think twenty matches I heard
you say to twenty straight match wins number one since June.
What has impressed you most, Craig about Janick Center, not
just at this tournament, but but since he's been world
number one.

Speaker 11 (50:25):
His humility, He's such an easy, down to earth person.
He's softly spoken. You know, he's been asked, how has
being number one changed you? He says, it hasn't. It's
not changed me at all. You know, he was asked
are you unbeatable? And he explained that he's not unbeatable.

(50:46):
He just works very hard and he has a mental,
mental strength and matches to win these matches. He said,
but he could be beaten at any time. Somebody, some
other player may have an absolute blinder. The last time
he was beaten was in the final of Beijing in
October last year to Carlos carraz and that was another

(51:08):
tight match. So nobody's unbeatable. But certainly he's a tremendous individual.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
And it wasn't to be twenty five in twenty five
for Novak Djokovic forced to retire and to see me
against fear of Do you think twenty four might be
his final number?

Speaker 6 (51:27):
Well, I don't know.

Speaker 11 (51:28):
I mean, you know, there's still another three majors in
twenty five to go, the French Wimbledon and the US Open,
so he's still got some opportunities this year. I think
it's going to get tougher. He turns thirty eight in May,
and you know, some of these injuries are creeping in.
But I feel very sure that he's going to give

(51:49):
it everything he's got and more to try and get
himself across that line and in that record just for himself,
because he shares that record right now with Margaret Court
on twenty four career majors, So that's what he's striving for.
Last year he was striving for the Olympic gold medal

(52:10):
and he got it. He beat Carlos Algarez in the final,
so you know, we'll see. But these injuries are obviously
a bit of a matter of concern. You know, he
was affected and rightly so with the booing when when
he retired from the Zverev match in the in the
semis and he's posted on social media a picture of

(52:32):
the scan that shows there is a tear and that's
why he retired. So you know, he would not have
retired if he was able to play through at all,
but the pain levels were getting too intense.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
Craig, have really enjoyed your coverage over the last two
weeks in Melbourne. It's type for a classic finale tonight
and the men's singles final. Thanks as always for joining
us across New Zealand. Thanks Ayson, Thanks Craig. Craig Gabriel
there our man in Melbourne covering the Australian Tennis Open.
So we had our women's champion, medicine keys beating Arena
Seblinka last night. Men's champion will be decided tonight on text.

(53:08):
Can you please tell me what time the men's final starts?
Absolutely I can nine to thirty tonight. Nine thirty is
the scheduled start time on rod Laver Arena. The women's
doubles final is on from five o'clock this afternoon. Unfortunately,
our own Aeron Rautliff will not be there, beaten in
the semi finals. She and partner Gabby Dobrowski beaten in

(53:31):
the semis so it would have been nice to see
Eron Ratliffe out on rod Laver Arena later on this afternoon,
not to be so she won't be there the men's final.
Yellick Sinner Alexander Zverev one v two nine thirty tonight
at rod Laver Arena. Tennis fans have been watching. Can
Sinner be beaten? He looks imperious, He looks unbeatable, He

(53:51):
looks absolutely the favor I haven't checked the odds, but
I'll do that in a moment. Can Jarick Sinner be
beaten by Alexander Zverevan? What did you make of the
whole Novak Djokovic thing? Look, I think we can all
ex that he is a polarizing figure, particularly in Melbourne,
given all of the you know, anti vax stuff. I

(54:14):
don't want to talk about that, but when he retired
from his semi final against Alexander Zverev, well, I was
that Friday night he was booed by some segments of
the crowd and speaking to our Australian correspondent yesterday, Adam Peacock,
he said, you know, it was a very small number

(54:35):
who were doing that, but even a small number is
still a number. It just brings into I guess why
to focus the whole and not just at the tennis
But is it actually okay to boo sports people? It
happens a lot, and the argument I always hear is well,
I've paid my money, so I'm allowed to do what

(54:58):
I want. I never see people really booing at the
theater and you pay money for tickets for that. So
I don't quite understand the argument. I've never understood the
motivation for it, you know. I mean it always comes

(55:21):
up as a topic of conversation around rugby as well,
doesn't it. Do we boo the kicker? You know, do
we boo opposition kickers? There's always a small minority of
people who bow an opposition kicker when they're lining up
to take a shot at goal. Again, it's not for me,
but do you feel as though that textually okay, the

(55:43):
Novak Jockovits one was slightly different, and that it was
at the end of the game. He'd played the game,
he'd retired injured, and as Craig Gabriel said there. He's
since posted some pictures on the social media of an
x ray showing that actually, yes, I am injured. I
wasn't just making it up so but.

Speaker 5 (56:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
I just thought it was a very very odd way
of expressing oneself. You might have an opinion on that
whether it's okay to boo people and Zverev. Sinner? Is
Zverev a chance denied again? Sinner? I didn't watch the
game last night, the match last night, rather the women's
singles final. I was following it online and I saw

(56:28):
Madison Keys was out to a five to one lead
in the first set, and she eventually won the first set,
and I thought, this is very impressive. But was it
just the adrenaline of getting out there and having a
really good start, and would Saba Linka come right? And
Arena Sablinka won the second set. So at that point
I nodded off. I had a long day. I knotted

(56:51):
off and I didn't see the end of it, and
I woke up this morning, I thought, oh, check, how
much you know what happened in the third set, and expecting,
fully expecting to see Arena sab Linka's name in the
winner's circle, but no Madison Keys. She must have after
all of that time, thought, you know, it might just
not going to be happening for me. But after beatings
Fiontek in the Semis on to the final, beating Saberlenka,

(57:13):
the top two players in the world, she's beaten now,
so yeah, take it, take it. You're a major champion. Finally,
Medicine Keys. Can Alexander Zverev emulate her tonight? He's never
won one either? Could this be his time to break
his duck? One twenty three oh eight hundred and eighty

(57:36):
ten eighty is our number. Talking tennis, a bit of
booing and sport If you like, We're back after this
with your calls on Weekend Sport here at News Talks EB.

Speaker 8 (57:45):
It's more than just a game. Weekend Sport with Jason
Pine and GJ.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
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Speaker 2 (57:55):
News Talks THEREB and Weekend Sport one twenty six Pinty.
I never boo anything myself, says this text. But I
can sort of see the reasoning behind booing a kicker
at goal. Will you boo out of the kicker? It's
just to put them off. But booing an individual as
they walk on or off a court or field or
touch the ball is so bad. I've always stopped my
kids booing at any time. Basketball is maybe one exception

(58:19):
where anouser tries to get the crowd to put off
the free throw with yelling and booing. That's always been
a bit weird to me. Thank you for your for
your text. Yep, you're right. I mean basketball is probably
one where, yeah, they just do everything they can behind
the bucket to put off the free throw. I've always thought, actually,
it'd be more disconcerting if there was utter silence, because

(58:44):
I get the feeling that an elite sports person just
blocks it out.

Speaker 9 (58:47):
Hello Jamie, great Jason Hipping new year.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
Oh Jamie, come on, it's the twenty sixth of January.
I think we can dispense. But but look, I wish
you well for the year ahead. How's that?

Speaker 9 (59:00):
Thank you? Thank you very much? What three weeks over
there want any mine. They're just about the booing thing.
It's never you probably bit like you and Pioney has
never really been my thing, although maybe if there's like
in a game of rugby where someone's sticking a shot
of might go the odd boo. But I mean, yeah,

(59:24):
it was just for the things. Like I mean with
great Cooper, we we probably probably went on a bit
longer thought.

Speaker 7 (59:31):
I went.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
After he needed Richie in the head. I think if
you knee Richie mccarer in the head, you you resign
yourself to a lifetime of booze from New Zealand fans.

Speaker 9 (59:45):
It's the same thing with you know, back in the
day was Sir Richard Heavy and the Aussie fans.

Speaker 6 (59:51):
Yes, he's always.

Speaker 9 (59:52):
Given them a bit of stick. Yeah, probably probably out
of respect though, but I mean yeah, I guess it's
each to their own. But I think it can be
a bit excessive personally myself. But but yeah, it's just
my two cents.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
I thought the jocko it to one. It was interesting
Jamie in that it wasn't while he was playing. It
wasn't like he had you know, he had been acting
up on the court or doing things to to Rile
up the crowd. It was actually he he retired injured.
I think the motivation was, Hey, I've paid a lot
of money for my tickets here, I'm not going to
get to see the tennis that I wanted. But it
wasn't like he was faking the injury. I thought it

(01:00:27):
was really poor for me.

Speaker 9 (01:00:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, does over the tense. I mean you
could probably understand the frustration and disappointment. I mean, yeah,
but then but then you can't expect someone who's generally
injured to keep carrying on. It's yeah, it's just I
guess you know.

Speaker 12 (01:00:45):
It's a spect that's part of the visit you pay.

Speaker 9 (01:00:48):
It might not. You don't always get to see what
you're paid for.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
No, they's so right. Yeah, it's the same same as cricket, Jamie.
You buy You might buy a ticket for a cricket
game that in a one day game or a T
twenty and the team at bats versus all out for
sixty you know, and then the other team gets them,
and you know, and you know in double quot time
and all of a sudden your day's over. But you're right.
You buy your ticket fully, fully knowing that it might

(01:01:12):
not work out the way you absolutely hope it will.

Speaker 9 (01:01:16):
Yeah, exactly. Anyway, I seek to speak you Plony.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Good on you, Jamie. Let's chat again soon this year
and we can dispense now. But the happy New Years.
We've done it. We can move on. Good to talk
to you, man, Calvin High.

Speaker 13 (01:01:27):
Good afternoon, Jason. While I was hanging on, I was
just thinking that people who paid their money for a
one day cricket game and got two days out of
it did very well, didn't they.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
There is that also, yes, yes, because they get the
second day off. Are you talking about if it rains well.

Speaker 13 (01:01:45):
I know there's something that was to do with the
runs and the overs and all that. It happened a
few I don't know. It could be even twenty years
ago now, but I found it very hard to understand,
so I can't recall it properly there, but it did happen.
I finished earlier the first day or something or other,
whatever it was, and I went on to the second day,
the one day for two days. Anyway, what I'll rung

(01:02:05):
up now, Piey. First of all, you've got to catch
up with the play with you being a great sports person.
I want to say to you happy New Year for
this coming weddings, for this coming Wednesday New Year's Day,
Chinese New Year.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Yes, I knew you were going to say that.

Speaker 13 (01:02:25):
And we've got two more later on the year, the
Muslim New Year and the Jewish New Year. But anyway,
moving on with the booing, the so called booing, I
also wanted to let you know, very very briefly, I'm
just holding here in my hand the one dollar coin
that's in a plastic container Comwealth Games from Christ ninety
seventy four. Anyway, there was a booing with the tennis
or that. That's absolutely ridiculous going on like that. But

(01:02:49):
you may or may not be fully aware of, Jason,
that my two real sports are athletics, a netball, and
most deefinitly a netball. There's no booing going on. When
your shooter shoots and gets the goal, lots, you'd give
them lots and lots of claps. When the opposition shoots
and gets a goal, he gives them a couple of
claps because you're clapping for their good ability.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
That's very diplomatic, Calvin, that's very diplomatic. I'll tell you
right now, I will never cheer for an opposition player.
Oh yes, I might applaud at the end if they've
done well, But during a game, no, I've got one
team and one team only.

Speaker 13 (01:03:27):
What about netball when you're there?

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Oh no, what if I go to watch the netball,
I cheer for the pulse. I don't cheer for the
other team. I don't pot them, don't do them, but
I don't cheer for them.

Speaker 13 (01:03:38):
Hang on, hang on, hang on. You're not cheering for
the team. You're cheering for the shooter for their ability
to shoot a wonderful.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
Goal against my team.

Speaker 13 (01:03:48):
There's nothing against your team. If you can't see that,
there's something wrong with you. Jason.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
How many people do you know? How many people do
you know who who go along to watch a team
their their team and and you know, and clap everything
the opposition does as well.

Speaker 13 (01:04:14):
Well, I can't give you a number.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
Well, I reckon, it's a low number.

Speaker 13 (01:04:20):
Well, ever, it's a low number.

Speaker 14 (01:04:21):
They are low people.

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
Well, kel when I think we're sports supporters. Look, I
know what you're saying, and look I understand that you
know you're very diplomatic and that you're applauding good play
out there. And if you've got no skin in the game.
Absolutely fine. If you're watching the game as a neutral
it's not your team out there, then absolutely just you know,

(01:04:44):
appreciate it for the aesthetic athletic ability that's going on.
But if I'm at a game of any sport and
my team is playing the All Blacks, the Pulse, the Hurricanes,
the Firebirds, all of those teams, and somebody from the
other team scores a tr try or hits a sex,

(01:05:08):
or takes a wicket or scores a got any of
those things, I'm not cheering for them. I'm not booing them,
but I am not cheering for the team who's playing
against my team. That is not sports fandom for me.
I may be in the minority. I don't think I am,
but that's my approach to sport.

Speaker 14 (01:05:30):
Hello Ellison, Hello, Yes, I think that booing of Dokovich
was ridiculous because when I Arki played the Tennessee she
pulled out of the tennis when she's playing in Auckland
and we didn't boo her. That's just an Australian thing
I reckon, just because they don't like him over there
for some reason because he said he was poisoned or something.
Once they never got over that, did they. So I mean,

(01:05:51):
I think he will come back and get another title anyway.
I think he's already got the he's twenty four and hour,
he's already got the number on the twenty five shoes
for the shoes, hasn't he? So he has to win
another one anyway. I don't know after that, but I
think he definitely will win another title.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
Yeah, yeah, Alison, I almost hope he does. It would
be almost I'd like to see him go to twenty
five just to achieve it.

Speaker 9 (01:06:15):
He's been.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
He's been clearly, you know, one of the greats, if
not the greatest tennis player of all time to be
marooned on twenty four. But I just wonder which one
he might win this year. It feels as the US Open.

Speaker 14 (01:06:30):
Yeah, it depends on the other players too. Whether the
other player puts our Carez, it only puts him out
earlier on this being shouted very good, isn't he Actually
he's going to be very good. But if somebody puts
the other al Carez early on, he doesn't have to
play him, then that's gives them a chance of getting
another title. That's another thing, and that comes into it too.

(01:06:51):
Doesn't it. Indeed, indeed you know and this matter thing keys,
Oh what a wonderful when that was absolutely and her
husband coaches. I didn't realize that they even gave her
trophy for being her coach.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 7 (01:07:09):
Well.

Speaker 14 (01:07:09):
Ex fact, I watched it last last night and they
said we're now going to have a new They do
it very well in Australia. They do all the very
well set up. Is that Evon girla gone there giving
the presentation. Oh gosh. And then they said we're going
to have a new category this year for the current
best coach. And then I did not as a husband
at that stage, and they said, of course this is

(01:07:30):
her husband coming up there. He looked a little bit
show at that stage. And she was saying, oh, she
was getting all tarry there at that stage. And then
she couldn't see him. Then she should throw upset. There
she says, where is my husband? Now she's looking around
and the other girl so there he is. There is
something or other. It was very well done. But the
whole thing I just want to say about this, and
I was just reading about this slice Andrews the cycling.

(01:07:52):
What a wonderful thing she does with sprints and she
does the care and now she's going might be doing
this the thousand one as well. She might be going
to do for as well as actually studying. And she
also sings as we's a music as well.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Oh yeah, she's an absolute She's a diamond of a
human being. Alise Andrews Ellison. I just love watching her compete.
I love her steely determination. Her dad's her coach as well. Obviously,
so John, isn't it. So yeah, there's the family connection there. Hey,
good to chat to you, Ellison. Thank you just to

(01:08:26):
text you your caller talking about Nebles on the money pinty.
It's called sportsmanship. Maybe it happens more in women's sport
because we have better manners. The suggestion was made that
that when you're watching a game or any any sport,
that you should applaud, acknowledge, cheer even for the opposition.

(01:08:47):
I just I've never done it. If i'm if I'm
at a, if I'm at a, so I won't say
I've never done it. For example, someone scores a century
against New Zealand when they bring the hundred up, Yes
you clap that, Yes you do you clap? That is
that you acknowledge it. Yes, well done, mate, you've brought
up your hundred. We applaud that. We applaud that. But

(01:09:10):
if we're playing Australia and Australia take a wicket, I'm
not applauding that. If somebody is playing against my football
team and they score a goal, I'm not applauding that.
I'm not booing. Don't get me wrong, I'm not booing.
But you think of a football stadium when a goal
goes in scored by the away team, Apart from the

(01:09:34):
small pocket of away fans who go absolutely mad, there's
no cheering or applauding by the home fans. It's the opposite.
So the fandomo not football. Sports fandom is about supporting

(01:09:54):
your team, and by default that means not supporting the
team that your team is playing. I would have thought again,
at the risk of repeating myself, it doesn't mean that
you're booing the other team or sledging them or giving
them any lip. It just means that I just would

(01:10:15):
feel completely at odds with my support for my teams
if I was apporting something in the opposition. Did anyway,
Let's move it's twenty two away from two Whomen Come Back.
James mcconey in his regular Sunday slot.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
The Tough Questions Off the Turf Weekend Sport with Jason
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Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
Builder nineteen away from two. Time for our regular Sunday
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Speaker 12 (01:10:43):
Hello mate, kid a mate, So I'm talking you from
lovely rainy topoor where I've been down here not for
the cultures or concert, but for Storm Purvis's wedding. She
married Dan Hilton Jones, so North Harbor Rugby fans might
know his name, but of course Storm purpose from the
crowd goes while in the Silver fans fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
Well, I'll wait for the magazine spread to take in
all the photos. Were you told you weren't allowed to
take any?

Speaker 12 (01:11:09):
Yeah, we were told, and I was going to break
ranks gon have met you, and of course you know,
I looked around and I was, am I going to
be the only person who decides to take photos and
in that we've just specifically been told not to. And
then I realized, look, we need a shot for the show.
For crowd goes well, so I put my phone in

(01:11:31):
landscape mode, you know, TV mode, and took a photo
of the first I mean a video of the first kiss.
So I don't know whether I'm going to be allowed
to use that on crowd go as well. But what's
the space?

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
Always working? You're always working, James, always working, always just
in the back of your mind, how can I get
the content? The Australian Tennis Open comes to its conclusion
tonight with the men singles final. I'm not sure whether
you had the opportunity to watch the women's final or
caught up on it. But Madison Keys, I was. I
was a fan of her finally winning a major.

Speaker 9 (01:12:05):
Yes, I was.

Speaker 12 (01:12:07):
I've seen Madison Keys grow up from tennis prodigy. She
was on the tour at fourteen years of age and
she turns thirty next month. So this is an amazing
story really because she you know, she lived in the
shadow of the Williams sisters, and every time a new
tennis star emerged, she was she seemed to move further

(01:12:28):
back down the taxi rank. So you know, Sloan Stevens
and Coco Vandaway and Coco Goff and then now Madison
Key's just been plugging away. She is you know she
hits the ball hard. She's pretty tall, you know, five
point ten, she can you know, she's got that that
bill to be a Grand Slam tennis winner and finally

(01:12:50):
put it all together perfectly. But there's a nice story
behind it, pony about her rackets. Have you caught up
with us?

Speaker 7 (01:12:56):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
I haven't.

Speaker 12 (01:12:58):
So she was a Wilson racket user for many years,
probably a decade, and last year decided to change to
you and then and also got married coincidentally to one
of her coaches and who she'd been dating for seven years.
So married in November. Suddenly, new new racket, new husband,

(01:13:20):
and she's winning a Grand Slam. And so she won
them with your X. And then meanwhile, over on the
other side of the court, Sablenka smashing her Wilson, which
is a record that then Madison Keys used to you.
So yeah, one empire rise with another one another one falls.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
Not a great night for Wilson, No, not a great night. Hey.
We had We had some Kiwi involvements as well. Quite
deep into the women's doubles and the mixed doubles. Aaron
Ratliff and Michael Venus together couldn't get past the semi
finals unfortunately, but I enjoyed watching a couple of kiwis
go deep in the mixed doubles.

Speaker 12 (01:13:58):
Yeah, it's awesome. You know, they're almost a father daughter combination.
Michael Venus slapped me for saying that. But thirty seven,
so he's slightly younger than goal Moffeast, but you know,
and is one of the veterans and outstanding doubles player.
You know, he's won a Grand Slam before, He's won
of bronze medal at the Olympics with Marcus Daniel. But

(01:14:21):
what I really like is that they've got this amazing chemistry.
They want to play all the majors again this year together,
so they've committed to that. Actually, while I was interviewed them,
interviewing them for Sky Sport, I sort of put them
on the spot a little bit and Aaron said, I'm
always the one as to ask Michael, and Michael goes,
I'm disorganized, And so suddenly they said, yeah, we'll play.
He goes, do you want to play French? He goes yes.

(01:14:43):
And then now they're going to play Wimbledon and the
US Open, and it means that New Zealand has a
chance in New Zealand doubles pairing has a chance to
win a first key with Grand Slam for doubles. There's
been plenty of key players of one doubles titles with
players from other nations, but never a key we pairing.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
Oh, we'll look forward to that. I was just having
a quick check on Michael Venus's career. He's made a
pretty good career out of being a very good doubles player.
Four point seven million UIST dollars in price money.

Speaker 12 (01:15:13):
I know, it's amazing. And actually, do you know what
mixed doubles is very watchable? They play, you know, they
don't really play best of three sets if it's if
it's one set, or they goes straight into a super tiebreaker,
which is first to ten. I think first to ten,
So you know it's it's high drama, high entertainment, attainment,

(01:15:35):
a lot of pressure on each point, which I think
is really what you want out of out of sport
and for tennis. So I mean, let's make mixed doubles
great again. Then Trump do it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
I don't know, I don't know where that his involvement
would necessarily be be integral to it, to mixed doubles
becoming great again. Look, I think of this in this
part of the world. If Aaron Ratlif and Michael Venus
can win a Grand Slam, then yeah, I think would
you know it would be very very happy with that. Hey,
I was going to ask you about I know it's

(01:16:07):
only the twenty sixth of January, but actually Super Rugby
starts and is it three weeks man? That's going to
come round quick? The Fiji and Drewer are going to
play against major League rugby side Rugby Football Club Los
Angeles as one of their preseason games.

Speaker 12 (01:16:24):
Well, they played them on Friday, Pony and it was
reasonably close, high scoring game. The DLUA got up so
they won it. Well, I looked at LAFC and RFC
and they scored several good tries. They were combative in
the forwards, and I just think, is this a glipse,
you know, to the future of rugby. Can we get

(01:16:46):
an American team into Super Rugby? They seem pretty competitive
and this is a team that Yeah, they had a
couple of really gun players, lelia Fano at verse five
and the Tryano, the Puma's half back. But then there
were players from Randwick Club Rugby. You know, in Sydney
filling in so one so that a team like that

(01:17:08):
can get bolstered by more talent, then could they actually
be continue to play Super Rugby? And maybe does Super
Rugby think about doing two divisions? This is where I mean,
I know it's hard to see that happening when you
see what's happening with crowd numbers, but I think something
needs to happen to the game that needs to expand.

(01:17:28):
And America is fresh pastures and this time of year.
Of course, once the Super Bowl is over next week,
there's no American football really in the college football season
is pretty much done and dusted, so there's there's clear
air for rugby a lot. You know, from February through
the June.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
Are think the sorts of things that are sort of
going through your mind as the wedding vows are being
read yesterday or an Allullan proceedings at the wedding, and
these are the sorts of things that that pop into
your head.

Speaker 12 (01:17:59):
Yeah, can we get La Rugby in Super it's just
super Yeah, that's all I going to make a speech.
Pony I got dropped as m C and against that
who who for a brother and sister combo and you

(01:18:19):
can't argue with that. I'm not going to sort of
throw my toys. But I did say, well, I had
actually already prepared something, so maybe and so Storm said, well,
why don't you introduce the MC So I sort of
managed to muscle my hand to the wedding, feeling a
bit guilty about that now, pulling focus like a proper
TV person. So you know, I'm keeping a low profile today.

(01:18:40):
You know there will be no big entrances to the
to the barbecue the day after.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
I'm going to make So there's two distinct sets of
people in Topaul. There's the there's the wedding crowd for
storm Purpose's wedding, and there's the Cold Chisel crowd. Have
they been in evidence around Topaul in the last little while?

Speaker 12 (01:18:57):
Oh they have, I can see them. And I think
that the father of the groom would have rather been
at Cold Chisel by the sounds of things. Russell Hilton Jones,
I'll throw him under the bus at former North Harbor
Flanka and in Northland as well, I think, And so
he yeah, he was definitely talking about cultures and a
lot last night, wondering what the playlist was, and you

(01:19:20):
know when are they going to play forever now and
all this kind of thing. I was like, okay, so
we'll just focus. We've got free Booze here. We're having
a good time and you know that the band is
playing Proclaims five hundred miles.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
It's not, of course, a wedding reception floor filler like that.
You cannot go wrong. James safe travels back up to
Walkland and look forward to chatting some sport with you
again next Sunday.

Speaker 12 (01:19:46):
Cheers Piney all the best mate and.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
Do YouTube mate. James mcconie, huge part of our Sundays
Alternative commentary collective. Craig goes wild all across your social
media as well, and look out.

Speaker 11 (01:19:56):
For that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
Prohibited, forbidden video. I think that's what happens if you're
really famous. The magazines, the women's magazines, get the you know,
they signed the deal. I've never been in this situation
as a guest, or certainly not as the participants in
a wedding either. But they say, okay, we'll pay you
X amount of dollars, but no one can take photos

(01:20:19):
because we want to be the ones for the photos.
I think that's what's happened here. I hope it was
a brilliant Dan topor I'm sure it was night away
from two news talks events.

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Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
I just want to circle back to the tennis before
the two o'clock news. Madison Keys a major champion at last,
at the forty sixth attempt. She's finally won one the
Australian Open last night when she beat Arena Sabalinka. Did
she ever have doubts about her career and that she
would ever win a major?

Speaker 15 (01:20:56):
I finally got to the point where I was proud
of myself and proud of my career with or without
a Grand Slam. And I finally got to the point
where I was okay if it didn't happen. I didn't
need it to feel like I had a good career
or that I deserved to be, you know, talked about

(01:21:17):
as a great tennis player. And I feel like finally
letting go of that kind of internal talk that I
had just gave me the ability to actually go out
and play some really good tennis. To actually win a
Grand Slam.

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
Was there a moment during the Australian Open where she
realized or believed that she actually could win it.

Speaker 15 (01:21:41):
I just slowly started continuing to build the confidence, and
part of it was that I never really got ahead
of myself in each round. I never once thought about
the next round until I was actually there. So I think, yes,
I believed that I could do it, But I also
think I did a good job at, you know, just
focusing on the task at hand.

Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
And medicine case. Finally, on the messages she gets from
her friends on tour.

Speaker 15 (01:22:04):
I've really grown up on the tour, and I've grown
up with some other amazing people on this tour, and
some of my closest friends also play, so I think
we all are very good at cheering each other on,
and their wins feel like our wins, So, you know,
to be in to be in the position of actually
winning and them getting to be the cheerleaders, it feels

(01:22:27):
really nice, just because after all of these years watching
all of my friends do so well, it has always
felt like a win for me. So I'm happy that
I can repair the favor.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
That is Madison Keys on the occasion of her first
win in a tennis major. One of the Australian Open
women's singles last night is Veriev against Sinner tonight for
the men's title, three and a half to two after
two o'clock. Luca Harrington gold medalist and the means slope
style at the X Games and Aspen yesterday. He's got
the big ear this afternoon, but going to join us
after two and the tour down Under and Adelaide into

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its final day. Dale Woodford going to wrap that up
for us.

Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
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News Talk said.

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
Been two o seven final our Weekend Sport. Then we'll
hand over to the Weekend Collective. Thanks for tuning in
a bit of variety for you this out. We're on
the snow with Luca Harrington who yesterday became an Aspen
X Games gold medalist and the men's slope style. It's
not even his preferred events. That's the big air which

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is in later on today. He's gonna have a chat
to us very shortly. We'll also talk some Cycling. The
Tour down Under is an Adelaide. It's the final stage today.
Kiwi FinFisher Black is in third place, currently only twelve
seconds behind the leader, so could he make up those
twelve seconds on the final day and win the tourdown

(01:24:02):
Under in Adelaide. Dell Woodford on that Logan Rogerson as
well out of the Auckland FC can as they prepare
for the next day league match against the Western Sydney Wanderers.
Tonight's We'll keep you updated with Live Sport. In fact,
let's do that now. Inning's break at Hackley Oval Canterbury
Magician Central, Hinds and the Women's Super Smash. Now the
Hind Central are out, they can't make the top three

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regardless of their remaining matches. Canterbury have to win to
keep their hopes alive. They've posted one hundred and thirty
five for six from their twenty overs, so the Hind's
about to head out in chase one three to six
to win after Canterbury made one thirty five for six.
So for the Magicians to stay alive they need to
win this match and then go from there. The men's

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came underway at the completion of the women's match. So
as I say, we will keep you right up to date.
Lines of communication remain open at eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty for a phone call nine two nine to
two one text or an email to Jason at Newstalk
SEDV dot co dot nz. But as we took over
eight pass two, as we always do it about this
time on weekend Sport, let's bring you up to date,

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shall we with some of the things you might have
missed in case you missed it, as the name of
the feature, we start in the Premier League as shock
Bournemouth absolutely running riot over Nottingham Forest Chris Woods Nottingham
Forest as Manuel.

Speaker 16 (01:25:24):
Up against but they give it s Well Woods again.
Bournemouth provided a step and scoreline four and against Newcastle
five against the end of Nottingham.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
Forest here five nil winners Bournemouth over Nottingham Forest a
blip for Forest. They remain third, though they are nine
points behind leaders Liverpool, who, unless shocking scenes, kept their
lead at the top of the table with a very
safe four one win over of switch Town.

Speaker 17 (01:25:58):
We haven't got in Liverpool's faces at all. Alexander Arnold's
crossing this time Littlepool have been given the freedom of
their own park by it Switch.

Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
And Ipswich have dropped into the relegation zone. They are
currently eighteenth on goal difference, so it's still a wee
way to go, but it's which we'll have to do
a bit of work to stay a Premier League football
side beyond this season. To cricket and to Pakistan. A
fascinating Test match unfolding between the hosts and the West Indies.

Speaker 18 (01:26:35):
Start up wants a single Chavis the pil Wes Indies
think they've got their.

Speaker 19 (01:26:40):
Man, the easy decision for the Tai Dumpier. This is
a remarkable recovery made by Wes Indies and this Test
match Pakistan conceding a lead of nine.

Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
Runs, so at the end of the first day twenty
wickets have fallen. The West Indies all out one sixty three,
then return the favor by rolling Pakistan for one fifty four.
Across in Perth, the Black Fern Sevens continue on their
merry and theth and Millet.

Speaker 5 (01:27:07):
And Millet just chances to the line to get herself
on the score.

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
Sheet as well, and plenty of time for this. One
can imagine shovel it into touch and seeing the Black
Fern sevens drough to the final four year of berth Out.
They'll face France tonight in the semi finals over in Perth.
And Mia Mottu's reign as Ibo super bantamweight World Boxing
champion has ended at the hands of Ellie Scotney this morning,

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who proved a bit too strong a fight there was.

Speaker 18 (01:27:34):
Been aid from October of last year, causing so much
frustration for Scotney that she's taken the frustrations out on
Mayo O two and has produced another super performance.

Speaker 1 (01:27:46):
Breaking down the Hail Mary's and the epic fails weekend
sport with Jason yin New Stork.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
Zenvy eleven minutes past two, a double dose of Kiwi
gold at the X Games and Aspen over the weekend,
with perhaps more to come. We heard yesterday from Zoe
Sadowski Sinnett, who won her eleventh Games medal her sixth
gold in the women's slope style, and fellow New Zealander
Luca Harrington pulled off a shock win in the men's

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slope style after originally being named as just an alternate
for the event. What's he gonna spin on this final jump?

Speaker 3 (01:28:22):
Going Ji cads switch triple Cork sixteen twenty.

Speaker 4 (01:28:28):
The smile on his face says it all.

Speaker 3 (01:28:31):
Welcome to Winter X Games, Luca Herrington, You are here.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
Luca Herrington is here with us, Luca. For those of
us who don't follow snow sports closely, this game as
a bit of a shock to us yesterday morning. Did
it surprise you?

Speaker 4 (01:28:46):
Uh?

Speaker 20 (01:28:46):
You know, I was pretty surprised. It's been a crazy
journey to come here. To be a part of the
ACTS Games this week has been absolutely incredible. And yeah,
I was actually just an alternate coming into the slope
style event this week, so I wasn't actually sure I
was going to be able to to be a the
start list then to compete until the night before the camp.

(01:29:10):
So yeah, that was that was a pretty huge shock
in it in itself. And yeah, that was my first
float style, big float style win. I'd recently gotten two
big air wins in in the World Cup circuit, but
I uh, I've always been pushing for the float stell
and then yeah, to get it here next Games has
been absolutely incredible, And yeah, I did not see it coming.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
That's such a great story. Tell us about being an alternate.

Speaker 12 (01:29:35):
What is that like?

Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
Do you turn up white around for a but train
and then, like you said, the night before, you find
it all I'm actually competing.

Speaker 4 (01:29:43):
Is is it a bit like that?

Speaker 20 (01:29:46):
Yeah, it could be. Unfortunately, one of the competitors broke
his arm in the in the competition the night before,
so which meant he unfortunately had to pull out a
float style the next day. So luckily I got a
little bit of warning and a dance. I got the
night to prepare. But it could have come down to
second before the competition started, before I before I knew.

(01:30:10):
But yeah, luckily this time around, I had a bit
of time.

Speaker 2 (01:30:14):
It's good to hear what you in some ways, Luca
under less pressure as an alternate coming in because really,
I guess there's no expectation on you.

Speaker 20 (01:30:23):
Yeah, I think so, you know, I think my goals
were to really just put down a run. I was
really happy with push, push myself, push the sport, and
you know see where I ended up. It was it
was a goal of mine to make it through to
the second round, which I did, and uh, I was
I was pre dawn stoked after that in itself, and

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then yeah, it was pretty crazy to end up walking
away with the gold.

Speaker 2 (01:30:48):
You've been training as you say, even as an alternate,
did you feel confident once you were in the field
that you could put down a good run in the Lipstonlee?

Speaker 20 (01:30:57):
You know, it was it was tough. It was great
to be able to train all week with everyone, but
you know, these are the best of the best, and
watching watching them ski all week, you know, I was like, Wow,
this is this is gonna be tough.

Speaker 18 (01:31:13):
So it was.

Speaker 20 (01:31:14):
But I definitely, you know, I felt confident in my
skiing and I was really happy with how I trained
and my performance leading into the competition. So yeah, I
definitely had a fair bit of confidence in myself coming
into the camp, and yeah, it was super super pleased
with how how my confidence levels were dropping in and
I think that helped my performance lot.

Speaker 2 (01:31:35):
You mentioned earlier the consecutive World Cup Biggie wins that
you've had. They're quite different events from what I can
tell though, one big jump as opposed to a series
of tricks. But do those wins in the Biggie give
you confidence in the slipestyle and does that confidence translight
across events?

Speaker 1 (01:31:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 20 (01:31:54):
Absolutely. I mean the big air and foto are quite
separate these days. It's a lot harder to combine. You know,
three different jumps and three different rails all connected into
one run and to perfect all of them going down
versus just standing at the top and you know, being

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getting ready to just do one trick, one run, one jump.
So yeah, blips is definitely a lot harder, but you
know it's all connected and it all helped.

Speaker 2 (01:32:23):
So as it turned out, you won gold on your
first run in the lip style, which was flawless. Tell
us about that and what was going through you on
during that run.

Speaker 20 (01:32:33):
Yeah, I mean I did my first run in the
first round. So there were two rounds in this pumpetition,
which was a bit of a new format for us.
But I had really nailed my first run and I
was super proud of myself. I definitely had a couple
of things I could step up too, which was exciting.
So yeah, I had a decent store in the first round.

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But on my second run in the first round, I
landed it even better and I got a I bumped
up my run a little bit, and I was expecting
my score to go up just just a couple of
point and then uh, and then I moved up into
first place going into the final round, which meant I
got to drop lest which was pretty incredible, and uh,
you know, I was scared. I was scared for that

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first round of the finals. I had so much adrenaline
pumping and I was I was scared I was gonna
mess something up. But it was it was Yeah, it
was pretty nice to get through the top section clean
on the rails, because that's kind of what I struggle
with a little bit more. And then once they got
to the jump, you know, my confidence really kicked in

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and I, uh, I just wanted to put on a
good show for everyone, and then to get to the
bottom and get them an amazing high score was just incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:33:48):
So good, so early on in the competition that you
weren't expecting to compete in and you see your name
at the top with a huge score, What did that
do to your nerves? And maybe you're adrenaline for the
rest of the competition.

Speaker 20 (01:34:01):
You know, I think the adrenaline was going the whole time.
I mean, just being out here at X Games and
you know, having a huge crowd at the bottom has
just been absolutely insane. This whole week has been incredible.
I've had, you know, so much energy and just been
so happy, So you know, the adrenaline was definitely going,
but it definitely went into over overdrive after that first

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run for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
And did you feel like this performance was coming on
recent form?

Speaker 20 (01:34:26):
You know, I wasn't sure. It's never something that I'm
focusing on. I'm not focusing on winning the gold. I'm
more focusing on, you know, myself, my skiing and doing
the best that i can do, pushing myself to my limit,
and you know, I think that probably helps me a
lot coming into these competitions.

Speaker 2 (01:34:46):
And yeah, so we're going to see you again this
afternoon in the Big Are your preferred event? Have your
ambitions changed now? Luka? Now you've got the gold and
the slopestyle cipher typed.

Speaker 21 (01:34:58):
Away, definitely not. I mean, it's been absolutely incredible winning
this gold and it's you know, it made me feel
a lot, a lot of joy and happiness.

Speaker 20 (01:35:09):
But you know, I'm trying to focus in for tonight again.
I'd love to, I'd love to walk away with another
medal tonight, but it's gonna be it's gonna be hard.
There's gonna be a lot of big tricks, a few
worlds first being put down tonight and X Games. You know,
X Games is where I run, pulls out, pulls out everything,
you know, So it's definitely going to be a challenge tonight,

(01:35:31):
but I'm super excited to go and put down my
tricks and see what the judges think of it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:36):
And if we look slightly further ahead Winter Olympics next
year and it tally, how much of a goal of
a for you.

Speaker 20 (01:35:43):
Yeah, it's definitely bouncing towards the idea of the Olympics
for sure, But you know, I'm still just trying to
focus on this season to stay healthy, to keep getting
some strong results, and then we can look at getting
closer to the Olympics next.

Speaker 2 (01:36:00):
Year and just to finish with us win. I suppose
now you're in the position where you've got to prefer
events the big air end the slopestyle. So will this
add to your schedule moving forward?

Speaker 4 (01:36:11):
Not really.

Speaker 20 (01:36:12):
I mean I try to specialize in both of them. Honestly,
I was lucky enough this year to excel a little
bit more earlier this season in the big airs, but
you know, slope style is still also my favorite event
to do as well, just as equal as big Air,
if not more. So, you know, the schedule hasn't changed.

(01:36:32):
We're still going to be doing all of the slope
styles and all of the big airs and seeing where
we can get with that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:38):
Well, look, congratulations on the lightest gold medal. It was
something that gave us a very very pleasant surprise yesterday
when we learned that you and Zoe said Aski Senator
both won gold at the X Games. You made a
lot of new fans over here. We'll look forward to
seeing how you go tonight and further down the track.
Thanks so much for joining us for a chat.

Speaker 20 (01:36:57):
Well, thank you so much, and I appreciate all the
support coming out of New zeal And. It's been incredible
the amount of messages I've been receiving, so thank you
all so much.

Speaker 2 (01:37:05):
Good man looker, thanks indeed, Luca Harrington. There aspen X
Games gold medalist and the men's slope style about to
go in the big air in about two or three hours,
so who knows he may add to his collection of
X Games medals two twenty. Let's take a break. When
we come back, it's to the tour down under. A
bunch of keys involved, including FinFisher Black, who is currently

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third heading into the final stage of this sixth stage
race in Adelaide Del wood for our cycling analyst is
going to break it down for us.

Speaker 1 (01:37:35):
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Speaker 2 (01:37:45):
Be coming up to twenty four equitals. Jonathan Navez leads
the general classification heading into the final stage of Cycling
to Tour down Under in Adelaide. Today, Platt is going
to try and be find the position. Here comes Naves
and is he going to.

Speaker 22 (01:37:59):
Take on Plappy on the corner because only's going to
challenge I've been pushed back. Navez is going to win,
he said, our late declimb it suits me and there's
no arguing that.

Speaker 4 (01:38:10):
Now.

Speaker 22 (01:38:11):
As Navez comes around the corner, I guess the victory,
gets the ten second bonus. He will take the Oka
jersey to night.

Speaker 2 (01:38:20):
Yes. So Naves holds a nine second lead over the
previous leader, Spain'sjavier Romo. Kee we Fin Fisher Black third overall,
just twelve seconds behind the leader. Fin Fisher. Black's had
two podium finishes so far on the tour, and fellow
Keey Corbyn Strong has had three top ten finishes. The
sixth and final stages flat twenty laps through a circuit

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of Central Adelaide, meaning the result is very much still
up in the air. Let's bring in cycling analyst Del
Woodford dal heading into the final stage. As I mentioned,
ki we fin Fisher black third, how likely is it
that he could make up the twelve seconds and win
the tour?

Speaker 23 (01:38:59):
Yeah, thanks Jason. It'll be pretty difficult. I think on
that circuit, it's a four kilometer circuit, it's super far.
Often a little break will go away to try and
pick up the you know, this sort of this two
intermediate sprints, which will I think they'll have some time
bonuses on the might imagine, so unless he can sneak away.
But you know, his team has also got Sam Wellsford

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on at oneer of the two first two stages of
the tour. He's an equal first in the points competition,
so they'll be a little bit focused to try and
get him the points jersey and Holdin's third place. You know,
I would say to keep him on the podium. I'll
be more interested in, you know, maintaining that podium and
get at Welsford into the sprint jersey. But now it's
bike racing, a lot can happen, and find has certainly shown,

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you know, the kick he put up willunger Hill to
get up to that third place yesterday and this was
something pretty special. So if he's in with a chance,
they will certainly have to watch him, you know, in
the clothing stages for sure, because he will be trying.

Speaker 2 (01:39:55):
I would imagine where is Finn Fisher Black and his
in his career arc at the moment, Dell is he
you know, give us a bit of an insight to
where he is in his pro cycling career right now.

Speaker 23 (01:40:07):
Oh, I think he's just ready to step up another level.
We saw him take some victories last year and he
was in the part of the A E team. With
Taddipagarcher moving to the new super team Red Bull, he'll
get some more opportunity and it's great they've giving it
to him so early in the season, so they're obviously
looking for him to target some of the early season races.
I haven't looked at his program going forward, Jason, but

(01:40:30):
he's a huge talent. He's ready I think to what
he already has taken on some of the best in
the world, and I really think we'll see him step
up again this season and next season. You know, everything
goes his way and you need a little bit of luck.
You need to get starts in the right races, be
injury free at the right time.

Speaker 9 (01:40:48):
But we know what he can do.

Speaker 23 (01:40:50):
We've seen it since he was a junior and just
just seeing him race this week, the maturity is shown
this week to back himself and take on the best
appitour down Under. I think as trajectory's heading in the
right direction for years.

Speaker 2 (01:41:05):
Yet, yeah, that's great to hear. He's not the only
key we have course on the two I mentioned Corbyn Strong,
but others as well. Who else among the key we
riders have impressed you?

Speaker 9 (01:41:14):
Yeah, the big isn't it?

Speaker 11 (01:41:15):
You know?

Speaker 23 (01:41:16):
Writers and a tour if we include Robert Standard wh
rides under the Australian flat of course out of Parmas,
the Northern Palmers, the North Boys high so we'll always
claim him. I think, yeah, it's hard. It's the first
race of the year. Who's impress Lawrence Pith. He's done
a good job, you know looking after him. Bishop Black
and that Red Ball team, particularly yesterday when it split
him in the cross ones. There's a little bit of

(01:41:37):
panic and and it just shows how how quickly a
race can change. I think he's read really well, as
you mentioned Cormyn Strong, you know, I rate Corbyn's probably
the best chance to pick up a tour in France.
Stage when he's always there or thereabouts and the sprints.
He's nuggety on the climbed, very smart bike rider. I've
said it many times. He reminds me a lot of
Ali Babihi and showing gray for early in the season,

(01:42:00):
as you said with the Metro with a number of
places in the top ten already three I think three
in the top in this tour, so he'll get better
as the season goes on as well, and I think
he'll bring us some a big victory. Aaron Gates stepping up,
I think Gate will be a good chance this afternoon,
riding for a first time in the World Tour with
the Astana team. A lot of new writers in that team,

(01:42:22):
so are struggling a little bit to get fully organized.
But in this type of race, the experience of Aaron Gage,
he doesn't need a big team around him. I think
he'll be right in the mix this afternoon, and Hunt
trying to go for it for a stage when there
certainly a podium. The other writers, Deon Smith with his
experienced Campbell Stewart, George Bennett doing a good job for
as our premier tech trying to set up then for

(01:42:42):
the GC tried really hard, just didn't go their way.
So all our writers are performing really well and to
have eight at the opening race of the World Tour
on the start line is pretty special for New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (01:42:54):
Just back to a funficial black then, with regards to
the Tour de France, I know Key we was there
last year. Could a podium here help him in a
place in the Tour de France.

Speaker 23 (01:43:05):
I don't think he'll be in the Tour de France
team for UA this year. It's probably a couple of
years away. They'll have their eight riders pretty much stamped
in for the tour of their program around Teddy Pagarcha.
Although you know that it's so early in the year,
lots can happen, Riders can get injured, things can crash,
you know, lots of things can change. So he would

(01:43:28):
be on the long list. I would say Piney for
that if something happened to a ride. He's a great
rider to bring any strong time trials. He's got a
good finish, but I think they's really want riders that
can hang around for Gartcha in the mountains. I think
Corbyn Strong may be a more likely start, and possibly
George Bennett this year might get another another crack at
the Tour to France.

Speaker 6 (01:43:49):
I hope.

Speaker 2 (01:43:49):
So this is the first real hit out of the
year for a lot of these teams and these cyclists.
How much of a bearing does this race have when
those teams are selecting their cyclists for the Grand Tours.

Speaker 23 (01:44:00):
There's a little bit just to see how they might
work together. You don't know what the directors might be
looking for all you know, like Branco card Rights for COPD.
He's certainly going to be one of their key men
in the Tour de France for stage wins. There's a
few opportunities for sprinters this year, so teams that haven't
got anyone that can compete and say the top five
for the general classification will be looking at riders in

(01:44:22):
this race to see what opportunities there will be for
them in a race like the Tour or the gierd Italia.
And a lot of the writers that the teams will
also be looking at the form that this part of
the season to see what they can build on for
the Spring Classics and which riders might beow to slot
them today. So even though it's super early in the season,
a lot of the riders are still the main writers

(01:44:43):
are still in Europe training and preparing for the younger riders,
and the writers come through. It gives the directors a
really good understanding of how they might about to gel
into a squad or take some opportunities like look at
Lawrence Peppy in this race, what he did last year
at the Spring Classics. He'll be using this race doing
all the work for fun and the other and Sam
Wellsted that he's using that to build a big engine

(01:45:05):
to have a crack and they Spring Classics in April.

Speaker 2 (01:45:08):
For a while you mentioned George Bennett there before. He's
been our one cycling hope I guess to follow and
he's done so well. Still riding, of course, but this
next generation seems to be coming through. Now we've mentioned
Fin Fisher, Black Corbyn Strong, Lawrence Pithy. You've mentioned a
couple of times, how are they looking as a collective,
you know, to ride us forward?

Speaker 12 (01:45:26):
If you like.

Speaker 23 (01:45:28):
Well looking right, aren't they really like if you look
at it, you know we've also you know, Michael Binki's little,
he's a bit older, he's thirty one or thirty two,
but he's riding for us. He's another rider that we've
got on the World Tour. It's pretty impressive and if
we could just get the ways of sports work with points,
we don't get a lot of riders on the start
line at the World Champs or that. If you look
at those all those names you mentioned the experience of

(01:45:50):
Deon Smith in there as well. We've actually got a
pretty strong team that could line up as a if
we had national teams lining up an event and be
really competitive against some of the big powerhouse nations. So yeah,
for New Zealand road cycling, a lot of these guys,
they haven't come out of that. Gaty hasn't. But you
know the other guy in Campbell shervit. You know pretty much,

(01:46:10):
George and the guys are their pathies. They've done it
through the road. You know, they've gone there, They've done
the hard yards and taken their opportunities on the road
to succeed. So what that does that inspires the next
generation coming through with seeing, you know, the New Zealand
Cycling Project boys racing in the US looking for opportunities
in Europe, and because of having so many at that level,

(01:46:32):
it means teams start to think about, now, I wonder
what other New Zealanders might be available, so they start
to sort of spread the net a little wider. And then,
of course with all the swift and online racing and competition,
sort of like in an esports side, they keeping an
eye on that. You never know who comes out of that,
and we've got some really good riders competing internationally in
that space as well.

Speaker 2 (01:46:54):
Looking globally. The Twitter France always jumps out, doesn't it
one hundred and twelfth edition that she is starting on
the fifth of July in Leale and finishing up in
Paris obviously later in the month. What sort of storylines
do you expect to be written in the Tour de
France this year? I guess I want'm asking, let's getting
anyone beat today.

Speaker 23 (01:47:12):
Bergacia Honessinger Guard possibly, But outside of that, it's a
it's a race for third place on the podium. If
those two going into the race fit healthy and stay
crashed free throughout the race. I think it'll be a
two horse race, but it's three weeks, twenty one days
and a lot can happen. But where we sat right now, Jason,
it's super hard to see anybody taking them on. They

(01:47:34):
just seem to be a whole level above it. It's
another tour with a lot of climbs. Yeah, I can't
see anyone pushing those two riders out.

Speaker 7 (01:47:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 23 (01:47:44):
We saw Evinger Guard pushing Taddy Pagacha last year coming
off a horrendous injury. So you know, both of those
going into the tour the peak form. I think we'll
see some battle royals and the mountains throw rink over
and a poll in there as well, But I think
they're all sort of trying to hang on and get
as close as they can, limit their losses and concentrate
on the battle for the podium.

Speaker 2 (01:48:05):
Good Mandal, always enjoy chatting cycling with you. We'll keep
an eye out for fin Fisher Black this afternoon. Hopefully
he can finish on the podium. Thanks as always for
taking the time for a chat.

Speaker 23 (01:48:14):
Pleasure Jason in your time, Thank you all the best, mate.

Speaker 2 (01:48:17):
Dell would for there our cycling analyst a fairly familiar
voice to cycling fans and yeat. Fin Fisher Black is
in third place, twelve seconds behind the leader, Ecuador's Jonathan
Navez as they head into the final stage of Cycling's
Tour down Under in Adelaide. Sixth and final stage is
flat twenty laps through a circuit of Central Adelaide, so
twelve seconds, as you heard Dell says, is a little

(01:48:38):
bit difficult to make up in a stage like that,
but anything can happen and finish on the podium would
be a great way to start the year for fin
Fisher Black out of Nelson. Pretty impressive cycling family, with
sister Neve also doing great things around the world in
a cycling sense. Twenty five to three. It's not going
very very well for the Central Hinds in their chase

(01:49:03):
for one hundred and thirty six to beat Canterbury down
in Christ nineteen for three after five overs. So Canterbury,
who need to win this game in order to stay
alive in the Super Smash Finals equation are doing pretty
well at the moment. One thirty five or six day
made Central nineteen for three in reply, when we come back,
it's the football, We'll get you inside the Auckland FC camp.

(01:49:25):
They take on the Western Sydney Wanderers tonight from seven
in Parramatta in Western Sydney. Logan Rogerson out of the
Auckland FC camp after.

Speaker 1 (01:49:33):
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Speaker 8 (01:49:38):
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Speaker 2 (01:49:43):
Dogs NB twenty one to three. Aukland FC back in
a league men's football action tonight away to Western Sydney.
It's their third game in nine days. Auckland FC grabbed
a point in their top of the table clash away
at Adelaide on Wednesday night, a last minute equalizer from
Logan Rogerson. We're about to move into the one hundredth

(01:50:04):
minute of this match. Sure, Francis de Reese, Paulson's boy.

Speaker 4 (01:50:10):
Who did come ste.

Speaker 8 (01:50:15):
Who did Steve Carr?

Speaker 4 (01:50:17):
Enjoy that? Loggand Rocherson.

Speaker 2 (01:50:22):
Stupid at the near post.

Speaker 3 (01:50:26):
To head home and the Auckland Sea Ferts.

Speaker 4 (01:50:30):
Get to celebrate as well.

Speaker 2 (01:50:32):
Logan Rogerson as well as the head of Auckland FC's
game tonight against Western Sydney. Let's start though on Wednesday
night logan talk us through your equalizer. We just heard
it there. Francis Devreese lines up the corner, so maybe
you pick it up for us from there.

Speaker 7 (01:50:46):
Yeah, obviously Quie light on in the game, you know,
one last set piece and Francis with you know, dead
ball situation. It's probably one of the best in the league.
So you know, I thought we're you know, I thought
we had a real good chance to score here. Uh
and yeah, my my kind of role in the want
to find to block the goalkeeper and the ball kind

(01:51:09):
of came in so quick, and you know I was
free at the air post and managed to get my
head on it. So now it was it was a
good ball from Franny and yeah, you know, real real
please to score quite quite late in the game after
pretty arm wrestle of a game.

Speaker 2 (01:51:24):
Arm rustle is a good word for it, man, A
real roller coaster, particularly near the end when you're one
that'll up then too one down. Did you feel as
though you were worth a point in Adelaide?

Speaker 7 (01:51:35):
Yeah, I think we didn't deserve to lose. I think
the team worked real hard and you know, we put
in a solid performance and I think, you know, we're
a little bit unlucky maybe with the with the first
goal and that we conceded, and yeah, I think a
result is it was fair and it's just the way
we equalizing the end and you know we can carry

(01:51:56):
on that momentum into our next game.

Speaker 2 (01:52:00):
It's a bit of a trademark of Auckland FC. Eight
goals after the eighty minute mark this season to win
matches draw them. What can we take from that in
terms of the team's ability to take games right to
the line and pick out points.

Speaker 7 (01:52:15):
Yeah, I think it just kind of shows the mentality
of the team. You know, we have great depth, I
guess in our squad and you know, whenever our substitutes
have come on, they've made a good difference. And you know,
even the guys that start, you know, as they work
hard and we grind out, you know, for the first hour,
then the substitutes bring the energy and you know have

(01:52:36):
come on and done real well. So yeah, I think
it's got a lot to do with the mentality of
the boys kind of never giving up. And I think
our squad depth as well, these guys coming off the
bench and you know, I've had to do it as
well this season, and I think it makes It makes
a big difference.

Speaker 2 (01:52:52):
I don't remember you scoring with your head too often either.
I think your first A League goal for the Phoenix
was a heater. But is it a bit of a
rarity for you to score with the head or not?

Speaker 7 (01:53:01):
Yeah, I think so. Like, like I was saying with all,
my role in the corner is the kind of just
block the goalkeeper and stand in the way and let
you know, the big guys do the heading. But you know, so, yeah,
I'm happy. I hope you just score with my head
and yeah, you're probably right, I don't score a few
too many.

Speaker 2 (01:53:21):
Slightly yeah, slightly different attacking set up in the last
two games as well, with both Gigimo Mai and Max
Marta starting so kind of more like I guess twin
number nine. How does that change your role in an
attacking sense.

Speaker 7 (01:53:36):
Yeah, I think you know, it kind of gives us
an extra option obviously, me when I'm playing out wide,
it gives me another another target to kind of aim for.
Max is very good in the air, and you know,
he causes a lot of problems and even in terms
of build up, I think we can, you know, when
we do go a little bit longer to strike because

(01:53:58):
to work with each other is a lot easier than one.
So I think it's been I think it's been working
well for us recently.

Speaker 2 (01:54:04):
So you're also the best defensive side in the competition,
just eleven goals conceded. I know, you look at a
defense and you say, well, your keeper must be good
and your back four must be good, and those things
are true. But what role do you and the other
attacking players play in the sides defensive performance?

Speaker 7 (01:54:24):
Yeah, I think you know, Steve and Danny, you know,
from the beginning of the season, we're you know, made
sure us attackers, you know, played our role defensively, and
you know, I think as attackers we work really hard
on the defensive side as well, pressing and kind of
getting back and you know, kind of making it half
the teams to break down. And I think, you know,

(01:54:47):
that's probably why we score when we have scored quite
late in the games. It's probably because, you know, attacking
players and the whole unit have been kind of working
hard for kind of the first sixty minutes defending, and
you know, then the game kind of opens up. So yeah,
I think, you know, as attackers, and especially in this team,
we have to work hard defenses, there's bow and you know,

(01:55:09):
I think it's probably why, you know, we've been quite
hard to score against, and.

Speaker 2 (01:55:14):
You've played ninety minutes in the last two games in
pretty close proximity to one another in terms of the
days in between them. I don't think you've done that previously.
All season had ninety minutes. Is that something you've worked on,
not just being say a sixty minute player or or
someone who provides an impact off the bench.

Speaker 7 (01:55:31):
Yeah, I think, you know, as a football player, you
always want to want to play ninety minutes. And yeah,
I think for the first bit of the season, you know,
kind of the sixty minutes mark, and you know, when
the board goes up, I kind of look over and
see my number, and you know, obviously a little bit disappointed.
But I think the last couple of weeks, you know,
I think my fitness as well, I've gone a little

(01:55:52):
bit better and being able to, you know, maintain the
kind of level that's needed for ninety minutes were maybe
in the first our first kind of called off the season,
first half of the season, you know, maybe my fitness
was kind of dropping off towards the end, and so
so yeah, I think, you know, I've been happy recently
to have been able to play you know, two ninety minutes.
And obviously when you play ninety minutes, it kind of

(01:56:14):
gives you more opportunities towards the end, like the last game,
to get your head on something or you know, to
score goals.

Speaker 2 (01:56:21):
But another game has come around pretty quickly. So third
game in nine days plus some trans Tasman travel in
there as well. Does that bosi huge? You'll start to
take a bit of a toll, not necessarily just on you,
but on the entire playing group.

Speaker 7 (01:56:35):
Yeah, I think so. Like I said before, we've got
great squad depths. I think, you know, we're in every position,
we've got you know, two or three players that are
very capable of starting. So yeah, who knows, you know,
what the sailing is going to be, but you know,
we've kind of no excuses really. You know, every team
has to travel. A lot of teams are playing games

(01:56:58):
close together at this moment of time, so yeah, obviously
it does have an effect, but you know, every tes
it's the same for every team really a bit.

Speaker 2 (01:57:07):
Of a quirk of the draw. There's a couple of
teams you've already played twice. You haven't played Western Sydney
yet until obviously tonight. They're having a bit of an
up and down season five wins, five losses, three draws,
but always tough at home. How do you assess the
threat that they'll post to you tonight?

Speaker 7 (01:57:22):
Yeah, I think they have real exciting taking players. Yeah,
obviously playing away at Western Sydney, they probably have, you know,
one of the probably the best best active support in
the league.

Speaker 3 (01:57:33):
And you know, like.

Speaker 7 (01:57:36):
Every game in the A League is tough. You know,
we found that out against Person when we played there,
and so yeah, I think we're you know, we'll tackle
the game like we tackle any other and yeah, every
A League opposition has the you know, has the obstacles,
and yeah, it's going to be a tough game for sure,
especially you know there's three games and close proximity.

Speaker 2 (01:57:58):
And just to finish. I know you're focused fully on
the A League, but you've been involved in the last
three international windows for New Zealand. You've played five of
the last six or white game games. How can are
you to be involved in March in the final push
for the World Cup.

Speaker 7 (01:58:11):
Yeah, you know, obviously, you know I'm thinking about ALA games,
but you're always thinking about international duties and you know,
March is definitely something that you know, I'm trying to
push towards. And you know, the All White squad is
so competitive now and we have such talented attacking players.
So yeah, I think I've got I need to focus
on playing week and week out for my club to

(01:58:34):
give me, you know, the best opportunity to stick my
hand up for the national team.

Speaker 2 (01:58:38):
Well, you're doing a pretty good job at the moment, Logan.
Congrat on what's happened so far. You've probably heard the
cheers for the equalizer on your side of the Tasman
the other night. From all the Auckland f C fans
over here, all the best to night against Western Sydney
mat and thanks for taking the time for a chat.

Speaker 7 (01:58:53):
Thanks finally, all good, all the.

Speaker 2 (01:58:55):
Best teammate, Logan Rogerson. There out of Auckland FC. Seven
o'clock to night they take on the Western Sydney Wanderers.
At the same time, football fans are going to have
divided focus, so the Wellington Phoenix women are action seven
o'clock to away at the Central Coast Mariners. They too
scored a last minute goal last time out, that's in
the back of the night.

Speaker 4 (01:59:13):
The goalkeeper's gone.

Speaker 2 (01:59:15):
Grace Jarlie lives at.

Speaker 18 (01:59:17):
The extras, but it's Niah Elliott who scores direct from
the corner. Saw the goalkeeper coming a long way early
on right on the board looks as though it's deceived, an.

Speaker 2 (01:59:26):
Added time goal, earning Wellington Phoenix a three to two
win over Newcastle last weekend. That's moved them up into
fifth spot. I spoke this week to Phoenix defender Tiana
Jaber and asked how the feeling is in the squad
after their recent good run that was their fourth straight
win at home.

Speaker 24 (01:59:43):
It's really good. We're like so proud of ourselves and
like really happy with like well, our tactic for our training,
all up, gameplay, energy belief is going really really well.
But there's still things folks on, still a lot of
hard work ahead of us, so we're just still keeping
focused and keeping everyone accountable.

Speaker 2 (01:59:59):
When you talk about the stuff to work on in
a defensive sense, is there anything specific that you would
like as a defensive unit to be doing better well?

Speaker 24 (02:00:06):
Obviously more clean sheets are like a goal for sure,
so doing what we can to keep it clean. But
I don't know really, I'm not going to give out our.

Speaker 2 (02:00:16):
Secrets fair enough. I don't think it's any secret that
part of your game is the physicality that you bring.
Is that something that's always been part of your game?

Speaker 9 (02:00:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 24 (02:00:24):
Always, Like ever since like I was first starting football,
like playing with the boys, you know, so that and
my dad and my brother like playing footy. They've always
like encouraged me to be like that. Sometimes it's a
bit too much, so you know, like part of growth,
like controlling it and making sure I'm doing it at
the right moments. But it's always been part of my
game always, like passionate. It's probably like in my blood too,

(02:00:46):
like my heritage and stuff. We're just feisty, so I
love a fight.

Speaker 2 (02:00:49):
Yeah, that's great, only on the football field, hopefully. How
helpful has it been to to be part of a
fairly consistent defensive unit, I mean pretty much the same
player as wee can week out.

Speaker 24 (02:01:00):
Yeah, No, it feels really good because like consistency I
think is key, especially for center backs, like playing next
to Mac and even like playing with like liv and
Lara on the left all the time, like getting into
each other's flow and knowing exactly what we want to
do when at the right moment. We have to be
on the same page always, So it's really good. I'm
really happy and like prior to be playing next to
these girls, like we're doing so well, so I'm really

(02:01:22):
proud of them, and like, yeah, there's a lot of
work to do and I'm really excited for like the
games ahead.

Speaker 2 (02:01:27):
And what about Carolina behind you? What kind of goalkeeper
is she?

Speaker 8 (02:01:30):
She's good.

Speaker 24 (02:01:31):
She's like a bit of a brick wall.

Speaker 7 (02:01:32):
She's allowed.

Speaker 24 (02:01:33):
We know exactly what she wants to do when Yeah,
she's a funny girl too, so she's really good for
the team.

Speaker 7 (02:01:39):
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2 (02:01:40):
And consistency has been great at home. It's you know,
it hasn't been terrible away. But is there is there
a growing strategy for forgetting points on the road. It
didn't happen as much last year as you probably would
have hoped. Is there anything that's changed to try and
get more points on the road.

Speaker 24 (02:01:57):
Maybe just making sure like the heat and like the
pitch that we're playing at isn't like a surprise, like
making sure we're prepared for that, Like we really use
every part of the Potator Park atmosphere to our advantage.
So I think it's like making sure and nothing throws
us off our game, making sure we're all just getting there.
It's just a game, but we have to make sure
we're all like gunning for the win no matter what

(02:02:18):
the pitch is, like, no matter who's in the stands. Yeah,
like we just got to stay focused.

Speaker 2 (02:02:24):
Really, it was the Adelaide game. Wasn't a terrible pitch
in a hot day?

Speaker 4 (02:02:28):
What was that like?

Speaker 24 (02:02:29):
Um, it was really rough to be honest. Yeah, that
was a hard one mentally as well, like just to
keep pushing. But like I think anyone would agree, like
from the first minute till the last, like we were
still trying to play, And I think we definitely put
Adelaide under pressure on the last thirty minutes for sure,
Like I think they felt it we were coming. And
that's I think what we do really really well. So

(02:02:51):
I think all teams need to be afraid of that.

Speaker 2 (02:02:54):
And Mania Eliot scores in the ninety ninth minute direct
from a corner the other day to get your three
points against Newcast, So what are the emotions like when
that bull hits on it?

Speaker 24 (02:03:01):
I honestly wanted to do like cartwheels, like I was
jumping for joy.

Speaker 7 (02:03:05):
I'm so proud of her.

Speaker 24 (02:03:06):
It was amazing, honestly, and like just to get that
win for the crowd and to set that record, like
my heart, like we're just so happy and so proud,
and I'm like, yeah, it was amazing, honestly amazing.

Speaker 2 (02:03:17):
And do you look at the table?

Speaker 9 (02:03:19):
I mean, do you do you?

Speaker 20 (02:03:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:03:20):
Do you like zayigo if we get three points here
we're here in here.

Speaker 7 (02:03:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (02:03:23):
No, definitely. Every time we win a game, we look
at the table and we're like, bloody hell, like there's
still so much work to do. The Like the table's
are really tight, so there's no room for slipping up,
no room for dozing off. To be honest, there's so
much work to do each week. So we get the
points and we keep moving ahead, keep building that momentum.
But the next time that comes up, we've got to like,
that's done. Now we've got another job ahead of us.

Speaker 2 (02:03:45):
That is the voice of Tiana Jaber Wellington Phoenix Defender
ahead of their next assignment tonight seven o'clock against the
Central Coast Mariners over on the Central Coast of New
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Speaker 4 (02:04:05):
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Speaker 2 (02:04:05):
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after three. Thanks for tuning in. Thanks hugely to Andy
McDonald for producing the show. Exit song today. Paul Newman
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