September 9, 2024 • 10 mins
Nick Cave has returned with a new album with a more spiritual feel; Wild God.
Fresh from his 12-week hiatus to donate an organ to a family member, Wellington Mornings music man James Irwin joined Nick Mills to review the album, and share some interesting discoveries he made while recovering.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Wellington Mornings podcast with Nick Mills
from news, talks at Biggs, new releases and keeping tabs
on local artists his music time on Wellington Mornings.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Now our listeners will know James Ewin very well. He
works with us in the station. He puts all the
ads together, writes all the musical jingles, writes all the stuff.
And he's an amazing man. And a couple of years ago,
would it.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Be two years ago?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Two years ago he had a cousin, Am I right?
I want to get the family member right? That was
in real trouble. He needed a kidney. He needed a
kidney really bad, lee or he wasn't going to survive.
James happened to be He got tested and happened to
be a donor. So he was a lot bigger than
he is right now. So he lost weight. He did
(01:01):
the whole thing. He worked as butt backside off, walked
home to work, home all the time, walked his beautiful
dog all the time, got himself into shape. And twelve
weeks ago he came and said goodbye. He said, I'm
not going to be on the show for a few weeks.
He didn't ask for twelve weeks or if he just
asked for a few weeks, Yeah, which I gave him
nicely of me and donated one of his kidneys to
(01:24):
his cousin. And you know that you've been part of
the story because I've been part of the story and
I've been betraying it to you. James. Good to have
you back.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, thanks for having me back. And it's I'm pleased
to say I'm be able to tell you nack and
I know you know it's been a major success for
my cousin. It's been a major success for me. I
mean I started two years ago. It's you know, thirty
one kilos heavier. And there's nothing like having to get
yourself in shape. You know, it's Men's Health Month, isn't
it Nothing like having to get yourself into shape and
(01:53):
sort yourself out. And I did that to get to
the stage where I could be a donor. And I'm
really pleased to say it was a major success.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Well, you're and you look terrific. You always look to riffer.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
And it's a great thing. You know, like if anyone
out there is listening and they want to talk about
if they think they want to be a kidney donor.
You can just get hold of Nick here and you
can pass it on to me, and I'm more than
happy to talk to you because it's we need kidneys.
Don't discriminate. And I sat in queues some days worth
twenty people and there'll be kids for it. And I
did it in Auckland. It can happen in Willington, but
my donor was in Auckland, so you know, like I
(02:26):
sat in q's with kids with willing with Auckland grammar
uniforms with Kensington uniforms. I sat next to an Afghani refugee,
I sat next to a businessman one day. They were
all waiting for donations. And you know, it's really all
it took for me was it was about eight weeks
where I was pretty naked, but four days in hospital,
(02:46):
ten days waiting around in Auckland.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
And that you if you did it in Wantington, that
ten days could be in one it could be one
to four days.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
So if anyone wants to know anything more about it,
We've got a great service here in Willington, Auckland christ
Church for kidney donations and I'm more than happy to
help anyone on that journey.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, thank you for being. Thank you for being you.
We love you as you are.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Thank you for being Q Hey now I am. I
listened to a lot of music. I'm not a big
TV watcher. I listened to a hell of a lot
of music while I was away. I did a huge
Beatles discography. I did the Beach Boys, I did tried
to work my way through the stones. There's so many
of them. And I started noticing, and we've done this before,
and the show started noticing a few things where some
song sounds like others. So let's have it. Listen to
(03:24):
this first thing and see if you think the same
as me. This sounds like the same song Sublime from
the nineties. Now see what it sounds like from the sixties?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Zret shoes?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
What do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Oh my god?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Yeah, it just absolutely popped out of one tho out. Wow.
I just you know, you think you think I was.
And then one day I actually heard I was listening
to one of our sister stations, the Hits, and I
heard Haley Barth playing Sublime, and I'd just been listening
to that Beatles album the night before, and I was like,
that sounds And I went back and listened and the
year ago. I've got another one at the end of
the show if we have time as well.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
So it's no one's actually talked about. They will now
record companies to pick up. We'll do more of that.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
And I don't think it's copying. It's not copying. It's
just there's so many melodies that are the same. You know,
there's only you know, there's not only so many notes
in the musical one scale. Now, I wanted to talk
about a musician. I don't know if you'll necessarily like
him Nick or not. I think a lot of our
listeners will. I've been it's been a love hate relationship
for me with this musician and it's Nick Cave and
(04:31):
the Bad Seeds. I saw him. I've seen him here
in Wellington live and he was the most spectacular show
I think I've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Wow, it's a high rate.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Yeah, he's incredible live. And he's got a new album
out last week. I picked it up on CD on
Friday from Slow Boat Records. Wild God. Wild God is
the album and I really love it. And I really
like his last four or five albums, but I didn't
like so much of stuff in the eighties that was
more gritty post punk, a bit more angry, a bit more.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
He's said a lot of tragedy in his life.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
He's had a massive amount of treas so in the
last since twenty fifteen, he's lost two of his boys,
and the last three albums really reflect on that, particularly
the last two Ghostin and Skeleton Try. And this feels
like this album's coming out there's some redemption in his life.
Let's have a listen to one of the first tracks
off the first off off the album, song of the Sea, song.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Such as describe scrubs still.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Yeah, yeah, and he's got he's gone with these he
used to be guitars and gritting, rumbling basses and this
is more, this is more orchestral and the next lot
I'm gonna play shortly. It's it's like you're I mean, honestly,
it's like I would describe it as like South He's
a Southern Baptist preaching man, you know, from the pulpit.
He's it's kind of like it's like meatloafs rock opera
(06:09):
of bad out of Hell. It's got this huge, huge
sound and I've been listening to it in the car,
got myself a new car with a CD player, which
I'm really happy about Nick, and and I've been playing
and playing and playing, and as I walk over Mount
Vic every day, I've been listening to it walking to work,
and it's just a beautiful album. It's not a playlist album,
you know how some people say it's not a like
(06:30):
just listen to one song on a playlist, which you
know my daughter would do, which my son would do.
It's you got to go and listen to a whole
You've got to listen to an album. It's an album.
It's start to finish. I've got so many stories. I
love it. He's like a rambling preach preacher calling out redemption.
But he's found the joy of the world around him.
And you know, if I'm worshiping it the profit of
(06:52):
the profit of Nick Cave, I feel like he's got
a lot to give, more than any of our sort
of false prophets that we sometimes see on the TV.
So you know, if I'm going to join any have
you got some more music? Yeah, you let's have another
listen to some more. Yeah, I reckon very theatrical.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah, of course that whole Early Bowie is here. We
go with the choruses like it's an evangelical church.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
We're all swinging little boogie to him.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
I feel like we've become another you know, is this
the first time we've played almost I feel like it's
Christian rock on z B. It's beautiful, like the crazy
preacher at the at the front sweating.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
It's a bit of early vow.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
It's beautiful. It's just a terrific album. Here's another track,
So there you go. Check out Nick Cave Wild God.
(08:11):
It's a cracker. It's on Spotify, It's on all your
streaming sites. Going by yourself a CD of it, all the.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Vinyl let's still buy CD.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Yeah, by CDs I brought. I brought four last week.
I brought the quite like him in the collection. I like, yeah,
I like chucking in the car. I'm a tragic for that.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
I must get you around home because I'm trying to
check out my CDs. I'll bet you coming.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
I don't check them out. What else were we gonna talk about?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Dig The gig is on at Valhalla tomorrow night, and
it's Massive University and it's Victoria University and all the
musos who do those sort of music courses. They've got
the Grand Final. It's gonna be a cracker. Get along
to Valhalla from seven pm. It's about four or five bands.
It's gonna be it's gonna be a it's gonna be
a cracker. And also I've got to say happy eightieth
(08:54):
birthday to my mother, rober Herman and Cartersan today.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Oh, happy birthday, James his mom.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
He loves the show. She'll be listening to you.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Happy birthday.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
And here's one little cracker. Now, this is this one's interesting.
Michael Jackson versus Herbie Hancock. The common ground is Quincy
Jones produced Michael Jackson's thriller and he also a best
mate of Herbie Hancock. Have a listen to this the
(09:23):
Quincy Jones producers the King. I wish he had played
at Excheque Saints, So listen to that rhythm. And I
listen to this Herbie Hancock.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Can you hear it? Love it? The greatest keyboard player
in the world, Herby Hancock.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
This is absolutely superb. And it's thanks same thing for
there you go, Thanks.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Baby, thanks for being you, Thanks for everything you do.
Love you. We love you in our organization. Talk to
you next.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Week for more from Wellington Mornings with Nick Mills. Listen
live to News Talk said Wellington from nine am weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Wellington Mornings podcast with Nick Mills
from news, talks at Biggs, new releases and keeping tabs
on local artists his music time on Wellington Mornings.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Now our listeners will know James Ewin very well. He
works with us in the station. He puts all the
ads together, writes all the musical jingles, writes all the stuff.
And he's an amazing man. And a couple of years ago,
would it.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Be two years ago?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Two years ago he had a cousin, Am I right?
I want to get the family member right? That was
in real trouble. He needed a kidney. He needed a
kidney really bad, lee or he wasn't going to survive.
James happened to be He got tested and happened to
be a donor. So he was a lot bigger than
he is right now. So he lost weight. He did
(01:01):
the whole thing. He worked as butt backside off, walked
home to work, home all the time, walked his beautiful
dog all the time, got himself into shape. And twelve
weeks ago he came and said goodbye. He said, I'm
not going to be on the show for a few weeks.
He didn't ask for twelve weeks or if he just
asked for a few weeks, Yeah, which I gave him
nicely of me and donated one of his kidneys to
(01:24):
his cousin. And you know that you've been part of
the story because I've been part of the story and
I've been betraying it to you. James. Good to have
you back.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, thanks for having me back. And it's I'm pleased
to say I'm be able to tell you nack and
I know you know it's been a major success for
my cousin. It's been a major success for me. I
mean I started two years ago. It's you know, thirty
one kilos heavier. And there's nothing like having to get
yourself in shape. You know, it's Men's Health Month, isn't
it Nothing like having to get yourself into shape and
(01:53):
sort yourself out. And I did that to get to
the stage where I could be a donor. And I'm
really pleased to say it was a major success.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Well, you're and you look terrific. You always look to riffer.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
And it's a great thing. You know, like if anyone
out there is listening and they want to talk about
if they think they want to be a kidney donor.
You can just get hold of Nick here and you
can pass it on to me, and I'm more than
happy to talk to you because it's we need kidneys.
Don't discriminate. And I sat in queues some days worth
twenty people and there'll be kids for it. And I
did it in Auckland. It can happen in Willington, but
my donor was in Auckland, so you know, like I
(02:26):
sat in q's with kids with willing with Auckland grammar
uniforms with Kensington uniforms. I sat next to an Afghani refugee,
I sat next to a businessman one day. They were
all waiting for donations. And you know, it's really all
it took for me was it was about eight weeks
where I was pretty naked, but four days in hospital,
(02:46):
ten days waiting around in Auckland.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
And that you if you did it in Wantington, that
ten days could be in one it could be one
to four days.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
So if anyone wants to know anything more about it,
We've got a great service here in Willington, Auckland christ
Church for kidney donations and I'm more than happy to
help anyone on that journey.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, thank you for being. Thank you for being you.
We love you as you are.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Thank you for being Q Hey now I am. I
listened to a lot of music. I'm not a big
TV watcher. I listened to a hell of a lot
of music while I was away. I did a huge
Beatles discography. I did the Beach Boys, I did tried
to work my way through the stones. There's so many
of them. And I started noticing, and we've done this before,
and the show started noticing a few things where some
song sounds like others. So let's have it. Listen to
(03:24):
this first thing and see if you think the same
as me. This sounds like the same song Sublime from
the nineties. Now see what it sounds like from the sixties?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Zret shoes?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
What do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Oh my god?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Yeah, it just absolutely popped out of one tho out. Wow.
I just you know, you think you think I was.
And then one day I actually heard I was listening
to one of our sister stations, the Hits, and I
heard Haley Barth playing Sublime, and I'd just been listening
to that Beatles album the night before, and I was like,
that sounds And I went back and listened and the
year ago. I've got another one at the end of
the show if we have time as well.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
So it's no one's actually talked about. They will now
record companies to pick up. We'll do more of that.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
And I don't think it's copying. It's not copying. It's
just there's so many melodies that are the same. You know,
there's only you know, there's not only so many notes
in the musical one scale. Now, I wanted to talk
about a musician. I don't know if you'll necessarily like
him Nick or not. I think a lot of our
listeners will. I've been it's been a love hate relationship
for me with this musician and it's Nick Cave and
(04:31):
the Bad Seeds. I saw him. I've seen him here
in Wellington live and he was the most spectacular show
I think I've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Wow, it's a high rate.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Yeah, he's incredible live. And he's got a new album
out last week. I picked it up on CD on
Friday from Slow Boat Records. Wild God. Wild God is
the album and I really love it. And I really
like his last four or five albums, but I didn't
like so much of stuff in the eighties that was
more gritty post punk, a bit more angry, a bit more.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
He's said a lot of tragedy in his life.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
He's had a massive amount of treas so in the
last since twenty fifteen, he's lost two of his boys,
and the last three albums really reflect on that, particularly
the last two Ghostin and Skeleton Try. And this feels
like this album's coming out there's some redemption in his life.
Let's have a listen to one of the first tracks
off the first off off the album, song of the Sea, song.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Such as describe scrubs still.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Yeah, yeah, and he's got he's gone with these he
used to be guitars and gritting, rumbling basses and this
is more, this is more orchestral and the next lot
I'm gonna play shortly. It's it's like you're I mean, honestly,
it's like I would describe it as like South He's
a Southern Baptist preaching man, you know, from the pulpit.
He's it's kind of like it's like meatloafs rock opera
(06:09):
of bad out of Hell. It's got this huge, huge
sound and I've been listening to it in the car,
got myself a new car with a CD player, which
I'm really happy about Nick, and and I've been playing
and playing and playing, and as I walk over Mount
Vic every day, I've been listening to it walking to work,
and it's just a beautiful album. It's not a playlist album,
you know how some people say it's not a like
(06:30):
just listen to one song on a playlist, which you
know my daughter would do, which my son would do.
It's you got to go and listen to a whole
You've got to listen to an album. It's an album.
It's start to finish. I've got so many stories. I
love it. He's like a rambling preach preacher calling out redemption.
But he's found the joy of the world around him.
And you know, if I'm worshiping it the profit of
(06:52):
the profit of Nick Cave, I feel like he's got
a lot to give, more than any of our sort
of false prophets that we sometimes see on the TV.
So you know, if I'm going to join any have
you got some more music? Yeah, you let's have another
listen to some more. Yeah, I reckon very theatrical.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah, of course that whole Early Bowie is here. We
go with the choruses like it's an evangelical church.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
We're all swinging little boogie to him.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
I feel like we've become another you know, is this
the first time we've played almost I feel like it's
Christian rock on z B. It's beautiful, like the crazy
preacher at the at the front sweating.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
It's a bit of early vow.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
It's beautiful. It's just a terrific album. Here's another track,
So there you go. Check out Nick Cave Wild God.
(08:11):
It's a cracker. It's on Spotify, It's on all your
streaming sites. Going by yourself a CD of it, all the.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Vinyl let's still buy CD.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Yeah, by CDs I brought. I brought four last week.
I brought the quite like him in the collection. I like, yeah,
I like chucking in the car. I'm a tragic for that.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
I must get you around home because I'm trying to
check out my CDs. I'll bet you coming.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
I don't check them out. What else were we gonna talk about?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Dig The gig is on at Valhalla tomorrow night, and
it's Massive University and it's Victoria University and all the
musos who do those sort of music courses. They've got
the Grand Final. It's gonna be a cracker. Get along
to Valhalla from seven pm. It's about four or five bands.
It's gonna be it's gonna be a it's gonna be
a cracker. And also I've got to say happy eightieth
(08:54):
birthday to my mother, rober Herman and Cartersan today.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Oh, happy birthday, James his mom.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
He loves the show. She'll be listening to you.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Happy birthday.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
And here's one little cracker. Now, this is this one's interesting.
Michael Jackson versus Herbie Hancock. The common ground is Quincy
Jones produced Michael Jackson's thriller and he also a best
mate of Herbie Hancock. Have a listen to this the
(09:23):
Quincy Jones producers the King. I wish he had played
at Excheque Saints, So listen to that rhythm. And I
listen to this Herbie Hancock.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Can you hear it? Love it? The greatest keyboard player
in the world, Herby Hancock.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
This is absolutely superb. And it's thanks same thing for
there you go, Thanks.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Baby, thanks for being you, Thanks for everything you do.
Love you. We love you in our organization. Talk to
you next.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Week for more from Wellington Mornings with Nick Mills. Listen
live to News Talk said Wellington from nine am weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
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