Andrew Tate's Terrible Book

Robert reads Andrew Tate's horrendous book to Shereen Lani Younes.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, everyone, Robert here. The episode you are about to
listen to is me and Scherene lani Yunis and Sophie,
our producer extraordinaire, going through some of Andrew Tate's writings,
particularly a book of his Collected Wisdom and some of
these weird kung fu stories that he's written. It's all
fucked up and terrible. We recorded this when he was

(00:25):
still incarcerated in solitary confinement. He has now been released
to house arrest. So in the episode, whenever we talk
about him being in a Romanian jail, just replace that
with the phrase house arrest in your head and it'll
be like we edited it ourselves. Welcome to the Manosphere
Man Cast with Chunt Grunt Punch. We're here today to

(00:49):
talk about all of my tips and tricks for picking
up high value ladies. First off, though, I want to
introduce my guests for today, my co hosts on the
Man Cast, Scherene lani Unis and Sophie Lichterman. How are
y'all doing?

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Robert, you won't ever do that in our presence again?

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Are you ready for the man Cast?

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Doing it for the for the pod? You know? I
understand why he chose. I understand. It doesn't mean I
like it, but I understand it.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
It's it's called maybe we should have called it the
grunt Cast. But yeah, I think it's a good idea.
I think this is what we should pivot to doing, Sophie,
because it is apparently the easiest way to make money
in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
You repulsed me, and I did not enjoy that, Sophie.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
All we gotta do. We got to fuck up the
heads of like ten or fifteen million, like teenage boys,
and then we retire.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Or easy or you get the easy or you could
throw it into jail in Romina.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Well we won't. We won't go to Romania, Sophie. I mean,
come on, I Andrew Tate.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Why not?

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Well, well, it's a great place to go if you
are not operating a massive sex trafficking ring and bragging
that the Romanian government won't arrest you.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yeah, you shouldn't. You should avoid Romania.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
If that's the case, You should avoid most places. If
that's the case. This is a book episode. You all
know what a book episode is, uh, Scharene. We've been
we've been struggling to find a new book for our
book episodes for a while now, and I think I
may have landed on it.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
We're actually going to be covering two books today and
both of them are written by friend of the Pod,
Andrew Taate.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Friend of the Pod. I was on here for Stephen
Sigal's book, right.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
You were on here for Steven Sagal's terrible, terrible book.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Wrote all that fucking cover. The cover, I just remember
the cover.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
The cover was was a choice.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
This book has a better cover, not a good cover,
but a but a better cover. Is like, well, the
first book we're talking about by Andrew Tait is his
Tales of Woodawn, which is is Wudon is like a
mountain in China and the kind of two big schools

(03:08):
of Chinese martial arts, like one of them is named
after Wudon because I guess it's just kind of like
where it originated. But Andrew Tait, despite being kind of
a you know, mediocre kickboxer, is is very married to
the idea of being like a like a monastic warrior thing,
which which is, yeah, go to I want you to

(03:30):
go to the Cobra Tate. That's his website's name, Tails
of bud On page to take a look at this thing.
When I say it's a better cover than the Stephen
Sigal book, that's that's not praise. So it opens up.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
With just like a gift of him, basically like smoking
a cigar. It's like a fucking.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Parody of what much everything he does is. So it's
there's like a drawing of him that it's weird because
the the art style is like a mix of kind
of vaguely competent sort of Asian landscapes, but then the
illustrations of like Andrew Tate as a as a fucking
kung fu master. It almost looks like a political cartoon

(04:08):
of him. Like it's it's weird. It's it's a strange
mix of styles. But it does beat the Shadow Wold's book.
I'll give it that, I guess, Yeah, that's the one.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
The one good thing I guess is that it beats
the worst cover of all time.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah. Yeah. Now, to get this book, you have two
options sharene one is that you sign up for Andrew
Tate's mailing list and every week he'll send you a
new story from it, which fuck that, absolutely not. The
other is that you pay five dollars for the book,
which also fuck that.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
Dollars too much. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Yeah. The third is that you scroll through I lied,
there's three. You scroll through the tales of wudon twitter page,
and apparently you get to the stories. Look, they're they're
boring as shit, But I am going to read one
of them for you because it's it's funny and it
will serve as a good introduction to andrew second book,
which we're also going to cover.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Just just before I exit out of this website.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Click X, you're gonna need to burn your laptop.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yeah. I've never been on this before, but like, do
you know how like some websites have like a live
chat for help option, So for this one, it pops
up immediately, like it's just on the front page, and
it says, this not just a live chat bot. This
is your chance to get personal attention from Tate's personally
trained special forces.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
My god, what are they going to under walk around
alone in a jail cell.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
His says, this is your chance to change your life.
Begin a conversation below, and follow the next steps.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Yeah, it's a little cult he's got going online. I've
continued following his journey after his arrest, and like, just
f yi, he has like friends on the outside that
he sends tweets to, and they've gone from like I'm
innocent and you know, will be vindicated to talking about
his like jail cell workout routine and all sorts of

(06:04):
like uh. He most recently he bragged about defeating a
ghost in hand to hand combat. So it's it's he's
he's doing well, is what I'm saying. I would normally
say I wouldn't wish solitary confinement on anybody, but I
didn't know solitary confinement could be this funny. So now
like I'm morally compromised, but it is very.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Funny that on anybody. You're the for this. There are
so many shitty people. All of you should be in
a pit somewhere.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
I mean, I think, yeah, okay, that's fair, that's fair.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
I have no sympathy for the I have.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
I have an alternate standpoint, but that's gonna. I promised,
Sophie my New Year's resolution was not to talk about
killing people on this podcast more than one, sup quarter? Yeah,
more than one.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
You've already wild and Q one. But okay, I know, Sophie.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
You know life is a journey, okay, and some times,
you know, you. Rather than getting obsessed with your failures,
you should just celebrate the attempt.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
I thought life was a highway.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Well that's also that's also what life is and life
is for Andrew Tait. Life is a five thousand year
long process. Because this the introduction to his book Tales
of wood On begins in a previous life, I lived
five thousand human years atop Woodon Mountain. I remember every
lived second.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Jesus Christ a big riot here.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Life is competition. Competition is violence. In many modern forms
of competition, we have attempted to water down the violent
aspects to replicate violence in the most sanitized way. We
have full grown men growing as large and strong as
possible to put a ball in a net, as opposed
to hurting each other. It's funny that he focuses on basketball,
because football is still about men hurting each other to

(07:55):
the point that they destroy their brains.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
It's the most dangerous sport, isn't it isn't it?

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah? Well, also mma, which is his sport? Like both like, yeah,
not really sanitized, but the sentiment is the same. It's
a group of men at war with each with another,
with one team being victors and the other being losers,
the largest, strongest, most beautiful tree violently crushing the surrounding saplings,
and the quest for resource. He just says resource. Every
time I see beauty, I see struggle, the struggle required

(08:22):
to create it. When I see myself, I know the
struggle lived to become who I am. To live as
I do, the more sophisticated my understanding of the universe's
constant state of war, the happier, more content and peaceful
I feel. You are meant to struggle. You are here
to suffer. If you do neither of these things, you
are either dead or invisible. If you want people to
care who you are, become familiar with pain. If you
do not struggle to become an exceptional man, you are

(08:44):
a nobody, and every female will prove to you you
may as well not exist.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
The female is like the worst of the worst words
to use to describe people with volvos like.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
I just it's one of the easiest ways, though, to
determine whether or not someone is like a piece of shit.
If yeah, that is, if they if they use it
in that way.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
That was that was That was a long sentence you
just read.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
It's like it's laid out as almost as if it's
a zin Cohen But it's it's not. It's just like
dog shit, uh fucking fight club ass level philosophy, but
without like the knowledge that fight club is a satire
of this kind of philosophy. Right, Yeah, they're not.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
He's not evolved enough to understand that it's not that serious.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
It's also very funny that he's life like, life is struggle.
You know, I am like the strong oak that has
choked out the saplings beautiful at and I do this
so that girls will like me. Yeah, that is the
most pathetic. It's so sad.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
How does how does he get away with being so pathetic?
And because just big fucking dork dorks are great, but
there's a certain kind of dork that he is that
is fucking pathetic.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Well, it's because he's he reaching out to like thirteen
year old boys, yeah, who who are raised on like
a mix of like comic books and video games and anime.
And you know, there's nothing wrong with any of those things,
but when those form your entire like level of familiarity
with the world, it's easy for a guy like Andrew

(10:20):
to come in here with a story that sounds like
the opening for like a nineteen nineties fighting game, and
you know they're crazy dry in a little bit, yeah,
let's continue with the tales of Wudon for a little
bit longer. Evolution requires pain, while others complain that they
do not feel happy enough. I'm happy, I'm struggling. I

(10:41):
don't want to be happy. I want to be great.
This is the beauty of life. As a man all caps,
we are born valueless. You're either all caps man. You
either build yourself into a king or you fail. A
top Wudan, I told priest Master Yan Hue, how at
peace I felt amongst the trees. I could feel life
all around me, sitting at the foot of the largest tree.

(11:02):
I asked him, when life is so beautiful, why do
we fight? His reply was simple, do you think the
largest tree you sit beneath grew so tall amongst many
if it didn't fight in a previous life? I lived
five thousand years atop wood on mountain. I remember every
lived second now. I wanted to highlight this story because
it's an example of like the perfect flaws in this

(11:24):
style of thinking, Like how it's not just like silly
on its face, but actually if you attempt to engage
with it scientifically, and he is trying to make a
scientific argument here. It's also a perfectly wrong understanding of
forest ecology in biology. Obviously, there's a lot of competition
in nature, a lot of competition among trees and plants.
There's also a huge amount of cooperation. One of the

(11:46):
I believe it's Acacia trees in a chunk of Africa, Like,
when they start being fed on by herbivores, the trees
will start to release like a pheromone essentially that will
warn the other trees that they're being fed on, so
that they can start production of a tannin that's poisonous
to the animals. And so like the trees communicate as
a grove to work together to protect themselves, and likewise,

(12:07):
the animals have evolved over time to only eat little
bits of the trees at a time before it starts
to get poisonous. There's this thing actually anyway, it's that.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
Tree must be so good to still to still risk
eating a little bit.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
It must it's got to be delicious. Yeah, what if
you were like, all right, you can eat some cheetos,
but after forty five seconds there's cyanide in them. The
bag of Cheetos will defend itself exactly.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
I think. I do think that Andrew Tate thinks he's
like a philosopher or like it makes you wonder how
philosophers become philosophers, because like I think he's in his
mind he's saying something really profound, right.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, I mean the truth is that like a lot
of philosophers are guys like Andrew Tate, and that they
were just assholes who said stupid shit, and a lot
of people listen to them. You know, for every Diogenes,
there's uh, there's a kant immanual kant So I wanted
to highlight a little more about how wrong this fucking

(13:06):
attitude towards trees is. I don't know why, but there's
a there's an article on americanforest dot org that I
read years ago that I started thinking about as soon
as this came up, because it's one of like the
saddest stories I've ever read. The article title is almost
impossibly bleak. It's titled The Trees That Miss the Mammoths,
and it's about the osage orange tree, which I believe

(13:26):
is what we call bodark, what we white folks call
bodark in the South. But it's and it's one of
the hardest trees on earth, and you can grow it
into like fence posts and stuff like. It's that that's
what they used to do with it, is they used
to like seed it specifically so that they could like
make fences and stuff out of it. It's also Indigenous
Americans used it to make bows because it's a really

(13:47):
good tree for making bows from. But one of the
weird things about it is that it's incredibly naturally it's
incredibly geographically isolated. It doesn't grow out of this tiny
area in like Oklahoma and Texas, and it has these
these massive, green, fleshy fruits. They're they're these huge green fruits.
We used to call them horse apples because they were

(14:08):
all over all over the farrow horse apples. Yeah, I
would huck them at cows I was six. Look, you
can't judge me for it, but yeah, they were. There
are these that we call them horse apples, and you
can't eat them right. They're inedible for basically everybody because
the seeds are so hard. I think there's a couple
of animals that did not naturally eat them. But but

(14:29):
we'll eat them now once we've put.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Them together, I'm looking at them now.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah, they're wild, they're massive, they're massive and fruits and
nothing eats them really anymore, and they don't spread naturally.
They're so heavy that like they don't get spread wild
widely around, like birds don't eat them and poop the
seeds out. Well, they barely are. Mostly the reason why

(14:54):
they're still alive is that we have like intentionally bred
them because we wanted the wood. But yeah, so tree
nerds have been trying to figure out, like, what the
fuck is up with this stuff? Why would a tree
evolve to have fruit that's so hard and so heavy
and doesn't spread like that seems like a bad evolutionary idea.

(15:15):
And the understanding they've come to is that it's because, oh, well,
the trees co evolved with mammoths and giant sloths and
that's what would eat their fruit and would spread their seeds.
And when all of the giant sloths and mammoths were
hunted to extinction, there was nothing to spread the tree
seeds anymore, so they stopped spreading around. And it's it's

(15:38):
evidence that as much as competition is a part of nature,
so is collaboration and interdependency, you know, because it's not
like the mammoth isn't saying I'm going to spread these seeds,
and the tree isn't saying I'm going to feed these
mammoths in exchange for them spreading my seeds. But that's
the way it works out. They were both dependent on
each other. And now that this this these species that

(16:01):
they used to depend on, it is gone. The august
osage tree, despite how hard and tough and strong, and
it's an incredibly strong plant, it's it can't breed on
its own. Why because it proves wrong. I think, because
he's wrong about trees, Sophie tree.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
The tree is just missing its buddies, and it's missing
them for centuries. That's really sad.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
It was. I thought we were on a different show
for a second or one. I'm like, we're doing something
that I feel like would be very good. Happen here
to explain tree facts. No, No, it's a juckery, Robert.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Where the fucker the fuckery is He's lying about trees
to children, and children are going to grow up not
knowing about the giant sloth and the osage orange tree.
And that makes me angry.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Okay, justified, he is wrong him.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Okay, okay, But Sophie, I hear what you're saying. You
want more Andrew Tait fuckery, and I'm going to give
you slightly more than you bargained for here, because I
in trying to find copies of the Way of Wudan,
I found the saddest post that I have ever seen
on Reddit. It is it is heartbreaking. This is from

(17:13):
the Cobra Tate subreddit, which is listed as the only
official community of Andrew Cobra Tate. It's only got three
point seven thousand members too, which is not a anyway.
The post is titled the Way of Wodan and it's
written by a user named Alfred Ceipher about nine months ago.
And I'm going to read this. Just hold onto your

(17:34):
hearts because this is going to break them.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Sure, and I'll hold your heart. You hold my plase,
Yeah you go, There you go.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
May I perhaps should have said, hold on to your
gag reflex, but here we go. It may sound like
a fairy tale, but this story couldn't be more realistic.
What I'm about to share is the story of how
my trajectory and life changed literally overnight. How I found
my path to wudan not gonna lie. I was a
brutal loser, and I'm being modest about how I'm describing it.
I was way worse, already dead. If I might add,

(18:02):
I had no friends. The people in my life were
shitty and put me down every single chance they got.
I was alone, depressed, and lazy, not to mention stupid.
The worst part of it was I knew all these
things deep down. I knew who I truly was, and
my mind made it clear to me every single day.
A sore loser, nobody wanted me. I hid myself at
home just to cope with the pain. It got worse.
It got to a point where I lost all hope.
I had no hope anymore, and I lost every battle

(18:24):
before they even began. The way I got to know
Tate was just as miraculous, If I might say, there
are a lot of success gurus and motivational speakers out there,
But the first time I saw and Andrew tate clip,
something immediately clicked. I don't know what it is. I
got drawn to him instantly. The cobra had snapped its victim.
Oh my god, I know that one hurts. That hurt
to read from that. From that first clip, I immediately

(18:47):
searched him on YouTube, and surprise, surprise, he had his
own YouTube channel. I watched each video down to the
last bit. His speeches just stripped me of ballbne that
it's horrible, So that's so horrible. His speeches just stripped
me of all the victim coat mentality. Until I saw
myself in my true form again, before I swore never
to reveal again. I was there, all of my losses

(19:09):
flooding my mind, teasing me of how much a loser
I still was and still am. It was ruthless, but
Taint went ahead and said this one thing, one thing
that makes the difference. He said, but you can have everything,
everything you've ever wanted. It's a matter of how bad
do you want it. And from that moment it was
my first time to see the light. And then he
added this, I will show you the way, will you listen?
That got me started on my path. I borrowed the

(19:29):
cash in an ATM to pay for Hustler's University. I
really wanted it, I really really wanted it, and I enrolled.
Don't even get me started on Hustler's University. The content,
the professors, the students, and the mindset change that hit
you as astronomical. I would literally go broke just to
remain in Hustler's University. It's more than just what you
see every day. You get to see sixty thousand brothers
hustle and grind with one aim money.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Okay, this is written by Andrew Tait. He made it
a count he it reminds himself.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
It might be, but he's got a lot of like, god, wait,
this is so and everybody's half of these responses are
making fun of him.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah, I mean, like the people that like actually worship him.
It's just like it's culty. No, it's for sure culty.
But it's also just like it's sad. It's sad in
a way. Yeah. And there's so and there's still so
many Yeah, because they want.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
To connect with someone so so deeply and so badly.
It's just like they missed the opportunity to connect with
someone that's actually like worth their time and so yeah,
I don't know, it's someone that would help them actually
improve as a human being.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Yeah, And it's this idea that like, and again, I
think this goes back to what's incredible. One of the
things that's incredibly toxic about what Tate is trying to
push here, this idea that like everything is competition. The
only real way to like prove your mastery is by
either acquiring women or by acquiring money, and you're you're
fighting with everybody except for these people you to hang

(21:00):
out with, right, Like that is a recipe. I don't
mean this. I'm not trying to like say this lightly.
That's a recipe for suicide. Like that is the end
result of thinking that way. You either get out of
that thoughts or like, because it's deeply, profoundly toxic.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
To capitalize on that is so so monstrous, you know
what I mean, To capitalize on that feeling of like
isolating people and being like this has the potential to
to destroy people. I feel like that is so so evil.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
It's it's very evil. It's very like America too, right,
because this is I was just I was watching a
documentary last night about it was like a YouTube documentary
about Tony Robbins and Robin's is was it? At one
point kind of the more mass media acceptable version of
Andrew tait I. At this point, Tates might be a

(21:55):
bigger name, but they both have a lot in common,
including this, Like one of things Robins would do is like,
you know, attack women who came on and talked about
like the fact that they were suicidalists. Like he would
always accuse him of like using suicide as a weapon
against the man they were in a relationship with, Whereas
if like a man came on and expressed suicidal thoughts,

(22:18):
he would he would show this kind of like sympathy
towards them and stuff like there's these weird there's these
weird trends that are like ever present across these these grifters.
And like, ultimately the big thing that like the guys
like Tate and Robins are pushing is this idea of
like masculine mastery and female submission being kind of the

(22:41):
cornerstone of happiness.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
And I it's it's deeply like it. One of the
things that it does that I think is so heartbreaking
is it kind of like removes the possibility for identification
with other human beings on any kind of meaningful emotional level,
which is, as a cult leader, by the way, what
you want you don't want members of your cult to
be able to connect emotionally with anybody else. Right in

(23:06):
an independent of you, because that's how you make your money.
Is there is their fundamental brokenness, and that's kind of
how a huge amount of the American economy works, right,
Like it's all grifts and cons all the way down.
Andrew Tate is just better at it than most people.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
Right, I mean fundamental brokenness. That was the whole That
was good, good poetry that you just said right there. Yeah,
it's heartbreaking because you're right, it's uh.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Damn speaking of heartbreaking. Oh well, yes, yes, we're going
to move on to Andrew Tate's twenty twenty two book.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
But I thought that was your segue to to what
do you do?

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Yeah, but first, but first check out these Andrew Tait
approved products.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
No, no, no, oh should.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
I not do that, Sovie. I'm just trying to make
us some money here.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
You should absolutely not do that, especially especially if it's
those baked in ones. We have to do soon.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Oh no, it's okay. Eventually he'll get out of prison
and then then we can. Then we can, Yeah, we
can collab, we can finally do a podcast together. No,
here's ads Ah, we're back. So the book that we're

(24:24):
going to be reading for the rest of our episode
today is called The Tate Bible. It was published in
twenty twenty two and was written by Andrew Tait and
someone named G. Slim.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
Who the fuck is Slim?

Speaker 1 (24:39):
I don't know. There was a gangster rapper named G.
Slim with two ms from New Orleans, but he died
in October of nineteen ninety six when he was shot
by several people. So I don't think it's this G Slim.
I think it's unlikely to be the G. Slim who
died in nineteen ninety six.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
Oh, this, LIKEE came out very like some of Yeah,
this came out last year.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, So I think it's unlikely. And
the only other G. Slim searches that I'm getting immediately
on my search engine are for vaporizers. So he either
wrote this with a dead man or a vape, which
actually really fits for Andrew Tape to be entirely honest.
Oh my god, Oh I no, I got an email for.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
I did the mistake of skimming through some Amazon reviews
and now I want to die.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Oh yeah, what are you seeing? What's what's making you
feel so bad?

Speaker 3 (25:31):
Most of them are five stars.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
That's good. That's good. So we're reading a good one.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
Yeah, exactly. The ones that are three stars are even
about the book being bad. But this is what a
three star one sounds like. The book. I love the book.
I love but when Amazon shipped it, they threw it
in a box with the other items I got and
it got bent up really bad. That irritates me.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Oh no, oh no, I hope he has learned how
to anyway, So I did not ask it for their boyfriend. No, listen, folks,
I'm gonna tell you right now. I did not pay
for this. I found a free pdf posted online. The
pdf is watermarked from a Telegram channel called get Seduction Bible.
I don't know if this is authorized or if this

(26:14):
is illegal, and I don't really care because I'm number one.
I'm pretty sure we're covered by failures used to here
and number two Andrew Tatus in a Romanian prison, so
I think his legal hands are tied at the moment
either way. It opens after the you know, the chapter
listing and stuff. It opens with I'm so sorry, Scharen,
I actually brace yourself here, dear friend.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
You still have my heart always, Yes, it is left
of it.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
It opens with the Tate's prayer.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
No no, no, no, it is person to get away
with him.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
I can never tell quite with this guy how much
of it is supposed to be a joke, because there's
two questions, right, what of it does he mean as
a joke and what is like just narcissistic delusion? And
then the other question is like, what of it do
his that is a joke is realized by his fans
to be a joke, And it's impossible to tell. So

(27:17):
I'm gonna read the Tates prayer for you should read
because I know you need more religion in your life. Yeah,
so our Tate who aren't in Bucharest. He's sure is
because he's in prison there Andrew b thy name, thy
Kingdom come through Camon fun Oh online, Oh man, oh god,

(27:44):
Oh that really that. I felt like my bile kurdle
in my guts.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
I feel like you cursed everyone.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
I know this. I feel like I feel like I'm
what's your name in the Mummy movie? Reading from the
Book of the Dead, I'm unleash a terrible curse. Started
to read and I hear the wind whistling through the
howl of demons, barely contained. But then I continue reading.
My Kingdom come through cam and fun online as it

(28:12):
is on the blockchain. Give us this day our daily vodka,
and forgive those the ship munchers for their trespasses against us.
Lead us to women for temptation, and deliver us unto
our dominoes. For his is the Lambeau, the McLaren and
Ferrari forever with Tristan. That's his brother. A men, Wow,

(28:33):
A bunch of breads. Wow, wow, Oh my god, I
have to. I have to, Sophie, let me screen share.
You need to see the photo that comes right after
the Tates prayer.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Do I do?

Speaker 3 (28:44):
I do I have?

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (28:45):
No, this is this is necessary. I'm afraid this is
like morally please here we go.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yeah, so it's it's a I'm guessing what used to
be like a drawing of Jesus surrounded by five young
women who look suspiciously Mormon, but Andrew Tate's face has
been photo shopowing to.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Fact check you, there are only four women in that
photo for.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
Women, Sorry, concerned, I do you. They each have a
different hair color, which is just fun.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
The flower in his hand is also.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Uh maybe yes, there's a zoom button at the top.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Middle middle Sovie, Sylvie, thank you. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
And he has sunglasses on always, of.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Course, yeah, he's always got his sunglasses on.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
This is so what are they holding roses? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Those look like roses.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
And like chalices.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Maybe I don't say chalices at any rate. So obsessed,
it's it's it's very, very unsettling how this book came
to be Disclaimer. During the first COVID lockdown in the UK,
I was sat around scrolling through Twitter. I had never
seen nor heard of Andrew Tate before, but someone I
follow must have reach tweeted him. I remember reading the

(30:01):
tweet and laughing at it. So I went to his
of wu DN Twitter profile and had to look through
the posts. It was incredible. Who the fuck was this guy?
Was he for real or was it a parody account?
For the next hour, I did nothing but scroll through
his tweets. Jesus, and these weren't just singular tweets like
your average person posts, but long threads that I got
lost in. They flew from subject to subject, dropping controversy, humor,
and pearls of wisdom alike. I won't lie to you.

(30:23):
I genuinely still thought it was a parody account. I
couldn't believe anyone actually thought like this. Surely it was
a wind up.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Wait, what are you reading from now?

Speaker 1 (30:32):
This is the intro to the book. Yeah, and so
I closed Twitter and went about my day. But the
thing was, I couldn't stop thinking about it. At the
back of my mind or realization had started. I thought
that actually this guy was the real deal. It wasn't
a joke, it wasn't some prankster trolling everyone. So the
next day I found his YouTube channel and fell down
the biggest fucking rabbit hole in existence. Tate Speech, the

(30:52):
Hateful Tates, the war Room, Tate Confidential, God damn it.
Over the next few months, during lockdown, I would dip
in and out of all this content, and on this
joy of discovery, I noticed one thing kept popping up
into comments. Tate, you should write a book. Several times
I saw this, and when he bought it to reply,
Andrew would scornfully say the same thing. I ain't got
time to write a book. I'm too busy driving a
McLaren through the Alps. You can't argue with that. He's

(31:15):
not doing that no more. He's not doing that no more.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Yeah, So I don't know. I find it compelling that
like at least valuable data that like this weirdo who
wrote g Slim, who wrote the Tate Bible with Andrew,
fell into this rabbit hole during the pandemic when he
was alone at home. Like we know intellectually, that's how
a lot of this, the stuff that's metastasized now started.
But it's it's at least useful to get another fucking

(31:41):
piece of of date of data on that I'm going
to continue. I decided right then and there that I
was going to write the book. I needed to be
in this man's life, Jesus Christ. I needed to be
in the war room. I needed to change my life.
I needed a fucking all caps lambeaux exclamation point, exclamation point,
exclamation point. Let's do it also in all caps with
three exclamation points. And then in the next days nothing,

(32:04):
that little doubting voice that tells you you'll never be
able to do it appears in your head. It took
me weeks of questioning myself to even get started, and
even then I stopped halfway through and thought long and
hard about whether I should continue. But am I going
to be a loser? Am I going to fail to
follow through? After all, what's the worst that can happen?
He might tell me to fuck off, and I realize
I've wasted my time. But I can handle that. What
I can't handle is always thinking what might have happened

(32:26):
if I'd finished and it all works out. What if
a year later someone else does it and it's a
huge success. Good news? It was not. Yeah, So I
decided I would complete the book in total secrecy and
then get a physical paperback printed to gift to him. This,
I hoped would get the Seal of approval. Oh my god.
So this guy just watches all of Andrew's videos over

(32:48):
and over again and transcribes them. These are transcriptions of
Andrew Tait videos.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Listen. The thing is, I don't believe anything this book says,
you know what I mean? Like, I don't really think.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
G Slim.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
No, I don't fucking trust G Slim.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Wow, Charen, that's pretty offensive. G Slim died in a
gunfight in nineteen ninety six for you, and then came
back to write this book and back that's what I assume.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
This is like, so insufferable. Continue, Oh man, how many
pages is this book?

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (33:24):
It's it's a lot Charene. It's a lot. There's no
page Oh wait, no, there are page numbers. Let me
scroll down and see if I can answer that for you.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Too many, too many pages. You're completely correct.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Okay, only some of the pages have page numbers, but
there's at least two hundred and eighty three of them.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
That's that's a lot of fucking.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
That's way too many pages.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
That's way too many. That's way too many.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
That is like a heartbreaking number of pages. First off,
I'm going to say this, and it's it's going to
sound mean, but this man is already dead inside g
Slim like he's he's he's passed on years ago in
his soul, like there's nothing left but a whisper and
a ghost and the knowledge that he's fucking wrote a

(34:09):
book about Andrew Tait that is by Andrew Tait, that
Andrew Tait never saw.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
I mean, you think that's me that I don't think
this person exists. So we have two deposing views here.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Oh you don't think G Slim is real?

Speaker 3 (34:24):
I don't think this is Like, I just I can't
trust anything that Andrew Tate is involved with. I really don't.
It all sounds like someone's own fantasy of like being famous.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
That's I mean, he is famous. Unfortunately, a lot of
it was like he didn't have nearly as much money
as he pretended to. Like he like one of the
funny things about Andrew. So he's got this, He's got
his big hustler's university, which is the place you pay
like fifty bucks a month for, and then he's got
the war Room, which you pay five thousand dollars to
be a member of, and it gets you into all
these discord chats with his you know, he framed it

(35:02):
as like this is the most powerful secret society on earth.
I've got men in every government and like people who
will show up in any country if I need them.
I can solve any problem with this. Like if you
fuck with me, you know this powerful Candra, he gets arrested,
nobody does shit right because it was all a bunch
of marks who paid five grand to be in a
discord chat with Andrew Tate. So to that extent, like, yes,
it is all lies and smoke and mirrors.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
I think when I just realized the difference, Okay, this
is where this is the landing point. Yeah, go on,
you believe it because you understand that people like this
exist in the world, and I'm just in denial, you
know what I mean. I'm in denial that someone could
actually do this.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
I've spent a lot of time in the manosphere, you know,
following since years before Andrew Tate, following, you know, reading
blogs like we Hunted the Mammoth and just like going
in myself and reading conversations. And I think the most
durable lesson I've learned is that if something sounds like
the most depressing, sad thing that could ever possibly exist

(35:59):
in you're one wondering if it's real. Yes, it is. So.
I do believe that a guy spent his pandemic rewatching
Andrew Tait videos, then wrote a book and asked Andrew
for his approval to sell it and give Andrew the money.
I do believe that occur.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
I mean, you've kind of convinced me right now too,
because I people like that definitely exist. Unfortunately, yes, despite
my own wishes.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
It's all heartbreaking, but we should probably just soldier through
to the first chapter of Tate's Wisdom, The Truth About
Your Ego. We're going to be talking about ego and
why it's super important that you have an ego. In fact,
the biggest worms I've met in my life are people
who don't have egos. If you don't have an ego,
you don't care about how you're perceived. And there's not
only how you're perceived by others, but you also don't

(36:47):
care about how you perceive yourself. If you're going to
become morbidly obese, you don't have an ego. You can't
have an ego and become a morbidly obese person. Now,
I think a lot of people get confused because they're
two types of egos. You've got people who have egos
that don't deserve iteople who have egos who have earned
it and justified it. That's okay, I mean, for one thing,
like he's transposing like the actual like psychological concept of

(37:12):
an ego with just thinking you're hot shit right, Like
that's clearly what it means. But also just like I
don't know if if you're actually because Andrew talks a
lot about like aestheticism, and you know, these kind of
like stoic virtues, and hearkens back to these Greek philosophers
and these kind of Chinese philosophers. All of them would
have said the same thing about ego, which is that

(37:33):
like you have to conquer, you're like, like, caring about
what other people think is not a path towards power.
It's maybe a path that gets you arrested by the
Romanian authorities because your ego made you brag about your
criminal sex trafficking operation. That's what I might say. So, yeah,

(37:54):
that's funny. All right, So this, this whole rant is
about his concept of ego. Let's go down to the
next section. It's titled It's.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
So funny when people misunderstand what that word means. Entirely though,
I think that's so funny.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Like, yeah, it's also just like people have egos about
different things. There are people who don't care about their
physical appearance but care deeply about how they are perceived mentally,
or about you know, how people like their music or whatever.
Like that's not anyway. All of this is silly. Everything
he says is silly. Here's his next chapter. Do girls
Love Money? A lot of people say girls love money,

(38:30):
and that's not entirely true. They think that if you
have money, you're gonna get girls, but it's incorrect. I
know loads of very rich men who don't have girls,
And I know loads of old, fat, ugly rich guys
who are desperately trying to throw money at girls, and
these girls won't fuck them because they don't really care
about money. Girls like the trappings of money without seeing
the actual money. A girl doesn't want you to sit
there and say you earn this much, that you have this.

(38:52):
They don't give a fuck. What they want is a
black Mercedes to pick them up from their house and
take them to the restaurant. Now, this is funny, Sharene,
because we know from information it's come out since his
arrest that one of Andrew's hobbies was to find girls
in Romania, like children, like high school girls on Instagram,
and they repeatedly hit on them and offer to pick
them up in his black Mercedes. And we have like

(39:13):
they nearly always said like no, you're a creep and
a weirdo. He just did it so often that he
would find, you know, a few people to victimize like that.
That was his actual flirtation strategy. Good stuff, good stuff.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
Just trying to just probability wise, trying to hack the system,
just like if I do the times.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Yeah, that's what all these guys do, right, Like it's
all about if you I mean, yeah, if you are, like,
there's so many people in the world that if you
just constantly hit on every woman that you see, someone
will want to pick up what you're putting down, right,
And they they kind of take that very basic fact
and then and the fact that they're also like mentally

(39:53):
abusing children in a lot of cases who don't have
as much judgment or even the kind of like formalized
ideas of what they like as.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
People, even like their entire brain function or.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Whatever, exactly exactly, and they transposed that to their fans
as like these are the hacks for getting women, and
it's like, well, no, you're just being like a weird,
sad creep and ninety nine percent of the people you
talk to think you're gross, And then you're conning a
bunch of dumb young men into believing that, like this
is the trick to being James Bond, Right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Anyway, Like I feel like I don't know, I forget
what his name is because it's irrelevant and stupid. But
when I was in high school, there was like a
pick up artist that was like the same kind of
vibe that Andertait is, but like he was like he
like introduced the word like nagging, you.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Know what I mean, like that, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, so.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
That is and he was also bald. I'm pretty sure. Uh,
but I don't know what's what that's about. Not bad
by choice, I guess, yeah, but uh it's interesting to think,
like would would that have happened if the internet was
like it is now? Or do people like this just
like this? Does there always have to be someone that

(41:06):
these like vulnerable young people are subject to, Like it,
it's really because they're not new ideas, they're just like
recycled and said in different ways.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
No, they're not new, and this kind of guy isn't new, right, Like,
if you even want to go back to the turn
of the last century, a lot of the early kind
of people who guys like Gabrielle d Nunzio, who like
became fascists and led to the early stages of that movement,
were like masculinity influencers, right there was and it was

(41:39):
because you had this, you know, you know, there's not
a lot of room for purchase for these guys in
an era in which like most men are working in
like a farm or something, or like even in a factory.
But once you start getting like a lot of white
collar jobs where people are like sitting down and filing
paperwork all day, it's easy to number one that's not

(42:01):
often very rewarding work, and it's easy to convince a
chunk of the people doing that job that like, oh,
in the past, you would have been a viking, and
you know, you would have had a beautiful woman on
your arm and lots of booty, and you know you'd
be fighting all the time and getting this anger that's
deep inside you out. And I think for at least
like one hundred and fifty years or so, it's been

(42:21):
a pretty profitable thing to mine that vein of insecurity
that a chunk of the male population, particularly in the
middle class, is going to have. TAIT is kind of
an evolved form of.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
That, but yeah, totally. I mean hand in hand in
that unfortunately, is always like objectifying and women and like
not even just not even just objectifying like sexually, but
like making them objects.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Yeah. Yeah, well, because for one thing, like if the
primary lever that you're pulling is the insecurity of your audience,
nothing makes the kind of men who are vulnerable to
TATE insecure, Like the idea that a woman they're into
has like a life and the freedom of her own
to like not want to hang out with you if
you're being like a weird, gross creep, and people that.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
Like what there was a there was a shooter, like
a mass shooter that had that mentality of like these
these girls rejected him, and so he got.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
You Elliott, Yeah from Santa Bora.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
Yeah, exactly, yes, but like he was someone that thought
all those things and had access to a firearm and
the desire to do that, like imagine, it's just it's
just a recipe for disaster, like it's you mentioned, it's
like a recipe for suicide. It's like that. And also
just like general like death.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Yeah, it's it's it's it's it's all death cults all
the way down. But you know what's not a death cult?
Charine Blue Apron. That's right, Blue Apron is not a
death cult. That's the one guarantee Blue Apron makes. Uh.
They are no longer a death cult. Currently not a

(43:59):
death cult. Blue Apron. Oh we're back boy. I love
those Blue Apron ads. They're certainly not a death cult.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
Please please, please, don't thank you.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
That's the end of that.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
What Please don't be serious. Please don't message us.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Yeah, are you saying they are a death cult, Sophie,
because I'm trying to tell people that they're not.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Saying please, please please.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
Okay, this is the most positive things I've heard, Robert saying, yeah,
Blue Apron.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
So yeah, yeah, I've turned I've turned the corner. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Let's continue with our tap bible if we must. Let
me tell you something about having a Lamborghini. It's two
hundred thousand dollars to buy, ten thousand dollars a year
to service, eleven thousand dollars a year in insurance. Forget
that I've replaced the windscreen twice this year from stone Chips,

(44:53):
which is another ten thousand dollars. Forget the miscellaneous costs.
It's about three to four hundred thousand dollars I spent
so far on a car that has no guarantee of
getting girls. But what does it do is if I
pull up outside of a nightclub or a high school
in my Lamborghini, then girls. He doesn't say that, but
that's what he does. Then girls look at me and think, well,
I don't see that kind of car very often. That's interesting.

(45:14):
Who is he how does he afford a Lamborghini. If
I continue to talk to a girl, I have about
twenty or thirty seconds to say something interesting and continue
to be an interesting person, Otherwise I'm going to lose her.
What it does is it facilitates an opener. It gets
a tiny bit of interest, but it's still my job
to finish the interest off. If I'm a boring content.
She asks, how did you get a Lambeau? And I
sit there and go, well, the Lamborghini has a V

(45:34):
ten five point two liter engine. She doesn't give a
fuck about the fucking engine in the car. If a
girl sees your Lamborghini, it gives you an opener. It's
interesting because it's all about like, it's not about actually
being an interesting person or like being appealing. It's about
having these devices that make you look interesting, which is
always the uh oh boy, oh boy.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
No, you don't have to get a personality or be
nice or anything. You should have to have objects to
distract people with.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
Yeah, then there's this baffling line. Let me tell you
if what you get if you buy a Lamborghini. The
only people who genuinely adore you when you have a
Lamborghini are ten year old boys. They see a drive
past in their eyes light up and they start waving
their hands and they'll do anything to get in your car.
So unless you're a pedophile, there's no point in buying
a Lamborghini to get pussy. Now. What's interesting to me
about this is that like he's right about that, and

(46:25):
that he's saying a truth about his business, which is
that the only people who are impressed by a guy
bragging about his Lamborghini are our young children. Yeah, because
that's his audience, That's who he is trying to That's
why all these schools are trying to de radicalize kids
from Tate is because and he knows it. He knows that,
like the only thing that is the only people who
are impressed by my act are children and people with

(46:47):
the minds of children.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
Just I mean interesting that sentence was also just like heartbreaking,
intense and not needed, but not surprising that it's in there.
Well it's yeah, oh my god, I think it's it's
sad that because because young people are so easily influenced.

(47:11):
But like I was still kind of like scrolling through
these reviews and one of these reviews is talking about
how this person sent it to their son and how
they like they for encouragement and in hopes of letting
helping out the fire under him. How Tate is standing
up against the matrix. How this is like a better

(47:34):
way to teach little girls and boys or whatever. But
like it's it's it's sad that it also has has
like seeped into the minds of like parrots, and like,
I don't, I just can't. I don't know. I'm kind
of rambling now because these reviews are like breaking my brain.
But but yeah, I just think that's that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Yeah. The next thing is his fifty hips for being
a Man, which, oh yeah, no, these are great. There's
all sorts of wild shit in here, including us reject
sex from a beautiful woman. The red pill dorks are
desperate for sex at my level. You refuse to let
a woman have you simply because she's beautiful. She has
to deserve a man like me. I reject stunning women

(48:18):
all the time. It's good for the soul. Okay, it's
it is. I gotta say there's something technically impressive about
turning the man influencer grift around from like I'm going
to teach you how to get girls every time to
like I don't even need to have sex, right, That's
that's how That's how much of a stud I am
is I don't even fuck a lot of the time.
That is so.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Interesting because you're right, the other pickup artist person, I'm
thinking it was all about getting women.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Yeah, yeah, that's that. It is interesting, and I think
it's an evidence of kind of like why his grift
has been successful is that he's taking a spin on,
you know, the stuff that people have been doing for
a long time. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
Oh, I don't have sex normally. That means I'm cool,
you know what I mean, Like.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
I always have sex. Yeah, it's my choice. Yeah, which,
like it's perfectly fine to not whant I have sex.
It's just interesting to me that, like, his whole grift
is clearly about here's how you become rich and get babes,
and this is part of like how he sells it
to people.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
I think it's because the majority of people, if you
have to choose between the two options, are they're not
fucking all the time, but they want to be fucking
all the time, and or like they're not doing that
at all. So I think he's going with the majority,
being like, how can I have the most people relate
to this? I can tell them that them not fucking
is actually a power play.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
You know.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
Yeah, there's most of this is really boring stuff, but
I got to read you. Number fifteen.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
Do you okay?

Speaker 1 (49:44):
You'll like this one? Get arrested a couple nights in jail.
It's good for you. I've accumulated about two weeks across
different incidences. I think that might just be the perfect amount.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
That you think I've ever heard of my life.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
Good news, Andrew, You're about to get a lot more
jail experience.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
God.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
I mean, he did it so funny. He did it.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
Following his own rules. He did this to himself, like
quite literally, but also just like the idea to write
that down in a book or he'd say that out
loud and get a transcribed or whatever the fuck this
book is. It's crazy like that is it is just
I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, Wow, these episodes

(50:28):
really break my brain, and that's the goal broken, it feels, so.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
That's that's always the goal here at Behind the Bastards.
Number twenty one. Get a loan and refuse to pay
it back. Sell her transfer your assets first, or do
it just before you move country cash and slaves people.
It's not fair. The banks are absolute criminals, and you
need to get some small retribution. They'll simply print more
money fuck them. Which Like, I don't have a problem
with stealing from the bank, but Andrew getting a loan

(50:54):
and then just like not paying it back has consequences
for people in many cases. Okay, that that's going to
come back to bite your fans. I don't think that's
what he does. I think he gets loans from maybe
individual people and never pays them back. But I'm pretty
sure anyway, whatever number twenty two become very good at stealing.
I never ever order a coffee from Starbucks without stealing

(51:15):
something from the front, right under the dickhead's nose. Never
steal from small businesses, steal from the Okay, that one's fine,
I do. Yeah, Yeah, that's okay, that's it. Look even
a stopped clock is going to be right about shoplifting. Yeah,
so okay, let's move past.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
But he's doing it to like like he he insulted
the person that doesn't catch him. He's doing it to
like be like I am I'm better than you. I
can get away with this. Also, it's not just about
giving it to the man or whatever.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
Yeah, choose a book about a story that sounds interesting,
a man who's traveling around Africa, or a man who
decided to sail the Mediterranean, a professional boxer, whatever, Throw
the fucking book away and go do it yourself. Living
is better than reading good stuff. Maybe if you had
read a couple of stories about I don't know, al Capone,
maybe you you wouldn't have wound up in solitary confinement,

(52:08):
going crazy fighting ghosts. Good stuff, good stuff. Uh, all right, well,
let's let's move along. So it's just all shit like this,
all this, all this, lots of there's transcripts of him
talking on podcasts. My god, what kind of sad people,

(52:29):
what kind of sad man turns this into a book?

Speaker 3 (52:31):
You can you can make a book too, I guess.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
I mean, yeah, somebody, somebody turn all of my great
wisdom on my podcast appearances. Uh into a book.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
Oh wow. Uh.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
Anything can be a book. Anything can be a book.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
Yeah, anything can be a book. So I've scrolled down
to the bottom here and I was going to just
read you the last page, but then I came across
this A lot of men take all the frames I
used in my webcam business and apply it to their marriage,
and they say their marriage is never been better. It's
amazing but unsurprising because women are women and men are men.
But all in all, I genuinely want the best for everybody,
and I look forward to speaking to a feminist. I

(53:07):
hope I can deprogram her and she can get her
ass married, have some kids, make her man at dinner,
and finally become a good woman and stop talking shit.
So I look forward to talking with a feminist and
I'll fix her brain, no problem.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
I'll fix her brain. No wow.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
Also, if someoneist can do all those things, just like
heads up, she can't get married and have fucking kids
or whatever the shit?

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Yes, yeah, yeah, so I don't know. That's probably all
of the Tate Bible we need to go through today.
Do you feel like you learned something, Charene.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
I mean, I guess I genuinely learned that I shouldn't
be in denial of the things that freak me out
and like I don't want to believe because people like
this exist and it's better to be aware of them
existing in the world versus not be aware of that
and then I don't know. Yeah, it's a genuine lesson
I've learned today.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
It's heartbreaking. But uh, people like this are real. Uh
in some sense, you know, we can what is real?
What is reality?

Speaker 3 (54:11):
The matrix? Did did it work? Did read his book worked?

Speaker 1 (54:15):
I think that we've all escaped the matrix in our
own way today, and uh, and now we know I
don't know what what what? What? What? What is escaping
the matrix? If not getting paid to talk on a
microphone in your underpants? Right, we've broken the matrix. And
if you send, if you send Sharena and I five

(54:37):
thousand dollars, we will put you in a discord chat
with everyone else who paid us five thousand dollars, and
we will pretend that we're going to show up in
that discord chat and talk to you occasionally.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
I mean, it's tempting the way you say it in words.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
And now what's my cut? Yeah, Sophie U, I'm gonna
need at least for wow Wow? Can I need manager?

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Wow? Wow? Sure, Scharene, we might have to go to
war here.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
I mean, this is all, it's all or nothing. We
have double the charge ten thousand.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Yeah, what about Yeah, let's make a ten k. Let's
make it ten.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
That'll be fine you.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
Wow, wow, Well well uh well well we're going to
deal with all this offline. But everybody, if you mail
five or ten thousand dollars to us, eventually we'll figure
out how to split it up. I can promise you that, yes, yes,
all right, everybody, you gotta plug anything.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
I have a podcast as well. It's called Ethnically Ambiguous,
if you guys want to check it out. I just
made this little short film called how Can I Be
Present When Photographs Exist? It's like this little it's just
a it's a it's a window into my brain recently.
If you guys have any curiosity about what that is,
but I think that's it. You can follow me on
social media if you want to.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
What are your handles?

Speaker 3 (56:03):
Oh right, Uh Instagram is Shiro Hero and uh Twitter
is Shiro Hero sixty sixty six. I do want to
point out because I know the word Shiro is like
some people use it as like the female version of Hero.
That is not That is not my name. It's a
nickname that I have my whole life from my family.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
It's your name.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
And so I want everyone out there to know. That's
not why I chose that name. It's my name.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
I hate the idea of using Shiro for Hero because
Hero is not a gendered name. I know, like hero,
the term hero does not apply masculine, imply masculine or feminine.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
I think it seems unnecessary sound that way.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
It's like, yeah, yeah, it's like when people like try
to de gender the term folks by spelling it fols.

Speaker 3 (56:54):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
Folks does not imply gender exactly. Why are we doing Yes,
it's fine as it is. Yeah, yeah, it's like yeah,
adding an X to y'all, it's like, no, we're good. No,
one's good. No, No, I don't know one's done that.
They will now, they will. Now, let's make that be
an our fans thing. Yeah, all right, everybody go to hell.

(57:17):
I love you, see you there.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
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