How L. Ron Hubbard Made An Antichrist Using Sex Magic

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I'm Robert Evans, broadcasting to you live, although it won't
be live when you listen to it from the parking
lot behind a random arco in Reading, California, because like
all professional podcasters, I am working out of a car
right now, because I decided to funk off to the
mountains for a week in the reception in the mountains
is not ideal. Um, My guest today is the person

(00:25):
who normally has to deal with my bizarre decisions that
wildly impact the sound quality of this show. Um, but
as instead the co host of today's episode, while Chris
deals with my irresponsibility. Dania, Hello, Robert, how you doing, Buddy,
I'm doing. I'm doing good, Daniel, how are you doing?
I'm honestly great. I could not be more thrilled to

(00:46):
be here, uh side saddle to you right now with
Sophie on the podcast. I'm honored to be here, truly.
I have my son, and my work husband and my
dog dog. You can't you can't say that on the mic,
that we can't have that be the meta. Now, I'm
supposed to be in a relationship old That's right, You're
I'm sorry. I appreciate that though, so that again, Daniel. Yes, Robert,

(01:15):
you and I have. You and I have been colleagues
for for a while. Indeed, we've we've worked together. We
we we enjoy each other's company very much. We've we've
become friends over the course of many months in many
recording sessions. And I don't know how things are done
with friendship where you come from, Daniel, guy in a motorcycle.

(01:39):
I don't know. I don't know how things are done
where you come from, Daniel. But back in my hometown,
we have a saying. And that's saying is you weren't
really friends with someone until you've spent an hour or
so talking about that One time l Ron Hubbard and
a rocket scientist tried to summon the Antichrist using sex magic.

(02:00):
Do they have that expression where you come from, Daniel,
It's it's yeah, totally, man. Absolutely, Me and all my
friends we said down and talking about that thing. You
totally just welcome to our friendship group. So go on, please.
I did. I have done five episodes on Ron Hubbard
because he was amazing in dis Yeah, there was just

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there's just so much about that guy's life that we
have to talk about. And when I did my initial
three partner with the wonderful Caitlin Duranti. Um. One thing
we glossed over was the time l Ron Hubbard tried
to summon the anti Christ via fucking his friend's girlfriend. Um,
that's only a small part of it. Daniel, Oh my god,

(02:48):
I'm already in shock today. I felt like, in the
midst of this year of political nonsense and uh coronaviry, Uh,
we should talk about l Ron Hubbard and sex match
and just just have a relaxing time. That sound good
to you, Daniel, It sounds great, Robert, I'm in alright. Alright.

(03:08):
So our story begins with one of the most fascinating
and enigmatic men in the history of science, Jack Parsons. Now,
depending on your perspective, Parsons was either the smartest idiot
or the dumbest genius in human history. Uh. He was
born in Pasadena, California, in nineteen fourteen to a wealthy
family with a history of incredible names. His father was

(03:30):
named Marvel Sr. And he abandoned the family when Jack
was a small child so he can continue to have
an affair with a young woman. Jack, then named Marvel Jr.
Was thrust into the position of being the head of
the family at a very young age. Okay, all right,
I'm with it so far. That's you know, sucks, but alright,
Marvel Junior's mom filed for divorce and to avoid unpleasant

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memories of her ex, began calling Marvel Jr. John. In
eighth grade, John met a boy named Edward Foreman. Like him,
Eddie was a big fan of Jules Verne and the
Amazing Stories science fiction magazine that was then quite new.
John Parsons grew up, Yeah, he grew up on he
was he was a sci finerd you know, he was
one of the first generation, the first generation of sci finers.

(04:14):
Love it, I love it. Yeah. So he grows up
on the steady diet of tales of magic and witchcraft
and fantasy, along with you know, rockets and robots and aliens.
And like most boys, he was fascinated by fireworks. Unlike
most boys, he immediately started making his own in nine.
At age fourteen, John and Eddie graduated from cutting up

(04:35):
and modifying fireworks to trying to build their own solid
fuel rockets, which did not exist at the at the time.
That's that's extremely adventurous. Yeah, and there weren't kits and
stuff like he were just making bombs basically. Oh, yeah, no,
they were. They were the forefathers. They were the ones
getting their fingers blown off for all of us. Yeah exactly.

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And uh, because it was the twenties and there were
no rules at all. Everyone just let them make rockets,
which which rules, honestly, Yeah, totally rules. So the Parson
family neighbors reported bemusedly that the large backyard of their
manner was filled with blackened craters and shackle from failed
test launches. Yeah, what a report, and debrah's a lot

(05:27):
of shrapnel coming from the neighbors. It's the twenties, though,
So I guess we won't do anything about it, Yeah, exactly.
In an effort to build more efficient and reliable rockets,
John began experimenting with using glue as a binding agent
to keep the loose powder in his engines together at eighteen,
while still in high school, John was hired by the

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Hercules Powder Company. When he graduated in nineteen thirty three,
he enrolled in Pasadena Junior College with his friend Eddie Foreman.
The two continued their experiments and began to correspond with
luminaries in the nascent field of rock Katrie Robert Goddard,
Herman O Berth, Konstantine Solkovsky. This proved to be mostly useless,
since rocketry at this point was primitive enough that even

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the luminaries in the field weren't like all that good
at it. People haven't really figured much out about rockets yet. Yeah,
I mean this, this seems like still completely fresh ground.
Yeah freshly, Yeah, exactly. Yeah, we're still in the mostly
exploding things territory. Neither Parsons nor Goodmen were able to
divert their focus from mastering the art of shooting random

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shot into the sky long enough to focus on other studies.
They both dropped out of college in the the nineteen
thirties and got jobs at Halifax Explosives, a company in
the Mojave Desert that did exactly what you'd guess. For
a while, John Parsons looked to be on a relatively
normal path. He married his high school sweetheart, Helen Northrop,
and became increasingly influential in the developing science of rocketry.

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His new colleagues took to calling him Jack. In nineteen
thirty nine, Jack's interest in fantasy, kindled by those amazing
story his comics he devoured as a child led him
to pick up a book by Alistair Crowley. What do
you know about Alistair Crowley? Oh, you know nothing. That
name sounds familiar. Honestly, whenever I hear the name Crowley

(07:13):
makes me think of that song Mr Crowley. Yeah, I
think that's about Crowley. Yeah, well that's what I know,
the chorus of that song. Yeah. He is the inventor
of a religion called Plemma. Um. Yeah, he's uh starting
the late nineteen like by the time Jack sort of

(07:33):
becomes aware of this guy. Crowley's name for himself is
the Great Beast six six six. Yeah. He was regularly
called the wickedest man in the world by the media
of his native England, and considering the fact that Adolf
Hitler was the dictator of Germany at the time, one
might question the media's definition of the word wicket. Yeah. Wow, Okay,
get your priority straight, media. So yeah, Crowley is yeah,

(07:56):
known today as the founder of Thelemic religion and the
originator of the phrase do what thou wilt shall be
the whole of the law. So you've heard that. I'm
sure that that one gets around. So he's like one
of the founding fathers of like kind of the modern
occult subculture community, whatever you wanna call him. So, Crowley
had first reached prominence as a mountaineer, leading the first

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expedition to reach the foot of K two and almost
scaling Catchin Junga, the second and third highest mountains on Earth, respectively.
During the expedition up Canshon Junga in nineteen o five,
and avalanche had buried the rest of Carly's team under snow.
They begged him for help, but, as the story goes,
he made himself a cup of tea and watched them
die horribly. Instead, he claimed to have no sympathy for them,

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as they had attempted to make the descent after he'd
advised them not to. That's such, That's just some ship
you just cannot get away with anymore. I didn't tell
you so, I told you this was a bad idea.
Jesus Christ. That's wow, alright, cool Sick Crowley objectively is

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one of the most interesting dudes who ever lived, and
I honestly don't know enough about the man to declare
him a bastard or not um. He deliberately spread lies
about horrible things he'd done that he hadn't really done.
So he also did some really messed up stuff. So
it's really hard to know. The cliffs notes of this
guy's life is that in nineteen ten he joined a
secret society called the Ordo Templi Orientis or O t O. Now,

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during the turn of the twentieth century, there were a
lot of different similar occultic societies throughout Europe, and the
O t OH can be seen in the same family
of organizations as Theosophy Anthroposophy and the Toolist Society. Thanks
to his charisma and his erotic poetry, Crowley rose to
eventually command the English speaking sections of the O t What.
I'm sorry, don't talk about poetry. Just dropped that. You

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get to drop erotic poetry in the middle of the
things that make him charismatic. Okay, so it is when
does that come into play? How did the erotic poetry
come about? He writes a lot of erotic poetry. I mean,
so all of this that's the time outside of the
occult ship is just like, yeah, I mean, I also
love to talk about that kind of thing. So Crowley
is doing magic and telling people other people to do magic,

(10:09):
like that's like his whole thing, but like it's sex magic.
A lot of it involves fucking um. A lot of
it involves like tons of come um and like blood
and fucking. He's a big free love advocate um and
he's a big like A lot of this comes out
of like this rejection of Christian morality, like this, this
recognition from a lot of like free thinkers that like,
oh wow, are Christian based society is completely fucked and immoral.

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We should just discard all of this and just bang
each other all the time and maybe trying to summon
the devil. Yeah yeah, Crowley, Yeah, he's Crowley, got the
commies all right where it sounds good. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
he loves he's fucking coming like you wouldn't believe. And
like the fucking early nineteen hundreds, man, this guy is
semen all over the place, a great so uh. In

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nineteen thirty nine, our man Jack Parsons comes across Crowley's
writing and falls in love with it the whole due
at that wilt thing is particularly exciting to him as
a brilliant man. In the late nineteen thirties, he realizes
that most of the moral restrictions in his very repressed
society are rooted in bullshit. Jack likes the idea of
a faith that encourages him to indulge in forbidden pleasures
and gives him the power to affect his material reality.

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He and his wife Heaven joined the O. T O
S Pasadena chapter known as the Agape Lodge. And I'll
let you guess which what thing is agape? Alright, alright, alright, alright, yeah,
literally nothing to the imagination a gape Lodge, like come on, yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's it's it's all fucking So. Most of the ceremonies

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at the Agape Lodge focus around sex, magic, and the
meetings take place in an attic properly equipped for secret
and probably illegal sex, because a lot of sex was
illegal back then. Yeah, meetings were run by a priestess
wearing sheer gauze who rose out of a coffin to
lead the worshippers and purposefully blasphemous writes. So that's cool.

(11:58):
So Jack Parsons, Yeah, the theatrics wow, Okay. And Jack
Parsons is one of the founding fathers of the Jet
Propulsion Laboratory, So while he is starting the JPL, he's
also super into magic, into the crazy sex magic and
also advancing the sciences and also helping to invent rocketry.

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That's that's you know, we contain multitudes. It's cool as hell.
It's this guy so far. Absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah, no,
I got no problems with Jack Parsons. So well, maybe
a couple, we'll get to those, I'm sure. Yeah. So
Jack started corresponding with Crowley, and unlike the correspondence he'd

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had with early rocket scientists as a younger man, these
letters actually went somewhere Before long, Parsons was addressing Alistair
Crowley as my most beloved father and signing his letters
to him as vice son John Jack. Quickly he rose
to become Crowley's American representative for the O t O.
In a few short years. Jack's chapter was responsible for
the vast majority of the donations the O t O

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brought in. Carley's later years were largely funded by the
fundraising skill of Jack Parsons. One of Jack's housemates later
recalled he had a voluminous correspondence with Crowley in the libraries,
some of which he showed me. I remember in particular
one letter from Crowley which praised and encouraged him for
the fine work he was doing in America, and also
casually thanked him for his latest donation and intimated that
more would shortly be needed. Jack admitted that he was

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one of Crowley's main sources of money in America. So
Crowley really relies on this guy from money. Um, he's
an old man at this point in the late thirties
and um, early forties, and and that's kind of like
Jack's main purpose in the O t O is raising
money to keep Crowley alive. And sorry, can this is

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just like a little time check for me. I apologize.
Can you give me how old is Crowley at this point?
And how old is Jack Parsons at this point? Jesus
Crowley is like sixties seventies something he dies in forty six,
and Parsons is like in his twenties. Okay, cool, got it,
got it? Got it? Definitely like relationship kind of ship
exactly maybeties. Yeah. So raising money for the O t
O was only a small part of Jack's focus as

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the nineteen thirties turned into the forties. By this point,
he was working as a rocket engineer for the California
Institute of Technology, taking part in groundbreaking research and launching
experimental rockets as well as experimenting with pagan sex magic
at night. His two lives soon began to blend uh,
and before long he was dancing and shouting Crowley's him
to pan before rocket launches. Still bless the endeavors. Hell,

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here's how that him ended. By the way, So imagine
this guy hanging out with like nineteen forties rocket scientists,
chanting this ship as they prepared to launch a rocket.
I am pan Yo pen eyeo pen pan Pan. I
am thy mate, I am thy man, goat of thy flock,
I am gold, I am God, flesh to thy bone,

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flower to thy rod. With hoofs of steel, I race
on the rocks through solstice, stubborn to equinox, and I
rave and I rape, and I ripped, and I rinned,
everlasting world without end. Mannequin made and made it man
in the mite of pan Yo Pan Yo Pan Pan
pan Yo pan Wow. Wow. I'm just thinking about this

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the other scientists sitting around taking their super long drags
of their cigarettes, being like, God, come on, man, we're
just trying to launch this rocket. Come on, come on,
Jack Christ. Jesus Christ is fantastic. Yeah, yeah, it rules.
Good for him, good for him, good for you, for you.
It's a testament to what a brilliant engineer Jack was.

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That it took his colleagues a while to make a
fuss about his eccentricities. Um, he would eventually go on,
they did. He got fired from the JPL for being
a fucking weirdo. But not just that. It took a
while that they're like, you know, but it's it's it's okay.
He's such a good sign. He's such a good sign.
He's an incredible science Yeah, I mean yeah, that's you know,
suffw it goes his chief invention. He's like considered to

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be the main inventor of the solid fuel rocket, which
is yeah, we don't have space travel without it. Um yeah,
um no, less a mine than Werner. Von Brown considered
him to be one of the founding fathers of rocketry.
So he is hugely influential, and you do not ever
hear about him. You don't hear about him much. This

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has started to change in recent years, but for a
very long time you didn't hear about him when people
would talk about the founding fathers of rocketry. Um. Because
of the story we're about to talk about today. God.
Hell yes. So in nineteen forty one, Jack Parsons and
a group of his colleagues at Caltech. Yeah, this is
what is when they officially like start to found the

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jpl um. Yeah. They had done so much damage to
the campus at Caltech. They'd been forced to relocate to
a series of iron sheds in the Arroyo Seco Canyon
and this became the Jet Propulsion Laboratory sheds. Yeah. Well
but you on the bomb proof shelters. You guys can
blow yourselves up and not hurt anything else. So to

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Jack Parsons, there was no disconnect between his love of
the occult and his love of science. One of his
biographers later noted Parsons had his rocketry as well as
his normal life. He discovered other worlds by imagining going
in a rocket to the moon. He wanted to explore
the new frontier. He saw both space and magic as
ways of exploring these new frontiers, one breaking free from
Earth literally and metaphysically. And Jack's rocket ship for these

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metaphysical explorations was an enormous mansion on southern Orange Grove Avenue,
which he had inherited upon his errant father's death. South
Orange Grove was maybe the nicest neighborhood in Pasadena at
that point, and the upright citizens who were Jack's neighbors
were not happy when a black wizard moved in next
door and turned his family home into a mystical funk
cavern for a bunch of the strangest people in southern California. Yeah. Yeah, no,

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I guess I probably wouldn't be too happy either. I mean,
I think that sound like it would rule. But I mean, yeah,
that that that feels like. That feels like the kind
of thing where the first couple of weeks you'd be like, hey,
they're really having a rocket party over there, and then
just a couple of extra you know, extremities are left
in your yard and you're like, Okay, this has gone
too far. This, yeah, this is I've had enough of

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these wacky people now. Yeah. So, Jack's dad hadn't left
him with much money, and the only way Jack could
afford to maintain the great manner that he now had
was by renting it out. But he wasn't willing to
compromise his lifestyle by lending out his space to Norman's.
He put a notice in the local paper asking for
tenants who were atheists and of a bohemian disposition, with

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no exceptions. This led to a colorful cast of characters
who occupied his home and also when endless series of
loud parties and orgies, one long term tenant, later recalled
mundane Souls, were unceremoniously rejected as tenants. There was a
professional fortune teller and a seer who always wore appropriate
dresses and decorated her apartment with symbols and artifacts of
arcane lore. There was a lady well past middle aged

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but still strikingly beautiful, who claimed at various times to
have been the mistress of half the famous men in France.
There was a man who had been a renowned organist,
and the great movie palaces of the silent era. They
were characters, all so pretty cool house. I mean it sounds,
you know, sounds like a great crew, a motley crew
as well, especially in the early fucking forties when everybody

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sucked even more than they do now. Yeah. So the
police showed up semi regularly as a result of these
loud parties, but they were always talked down to. Yeah,
they were always um talked down by Jack Parsons, who
was handsome, charming and a respectable rocket scientist. He was
good at dealing with cops. On at least one occasion,

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the police were called in having been told by neighbors
that they had witnessed a pregnant woman being ordered to
jump nine times through a sacred fire. So, yeah, I
gotta cleanse that baby. I mean, that's just basic obstetrics. Yeah,

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it's fucking awesome, well done. Yeah, So two rooms in
the manner had been turned into a temple for the
o t oh Lodge. Jack's bedroom held the ceremonial altar,
which was flanked by pyramids and covered with bizarre symbols.
A massive signed portrait of Crowley hung over the fireplace.
It wasn't short a pretty badass living situation. And then
into this wonderful place and time stepped an actual demon,

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Lafayette Ron Hubbard. Wonderful. Yeah, with that lead in, do
you know what time it is? It's time for something
that's not l Ron Hubbard. The products and services that
support this show, although we would take l Ron Hubbard

(20:45):
as a sponsor absolutely not scientology, the church, but l
Ron Hubbard himself. Yeah, we're back. So l Ron Hubbard
is entering the story now Daniel L Ron Hubbard has

(21:05):
l r H has entered play Oh Boys. In September
nineteen forty five, after World War Two would drawn to
a close, the future founder of Scientology had enrolled himself
as a patient in Oak Noll Naval Hospital. There was
absolutely nothing wrong with him, other than the fact that
he was broke and would soon be mustered out of
the navy. For three months, l r H dutifully wind

(21:28):
and moaned and tried to convince doctors to diagnose him
with something anything that might be vaguely defined as a
service related injury. He complained about headaches, rheumatism, conjunctivitis, pain
in his side, belly aches, shoulder pain, arthritis, and hemorrhoids.
After weeks of looking, the only evidence of any sickness
they found was an ulcer. L r H's injuries were
described as minimal. In between days spent trying to convince

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doctors of his ailments, l r H spent some time
trawling around Pasadena, and in August of ninety he stumbled
into the house on South Orange Grove Avenue for a
regular meeting of science fiction aficionados. Because you know, Jack
Parsons is a big old nerd. So l Ron Hubbard
instantly recognized the Jack Parsons circle as the ideal environment
for an instinctive con man like himself to operate in.

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And I'm going to quote now from the book Bear
Faced Messiah. Ron Ebulliant as always, was not in any
way intimidated by the egregious company and surroundings. On the contrary,
he felt instantly at home. Most evenings he could be
found dominating the conversation at the big table in the kitchen,
where the rumors tended to gather, telling outrageous stories about
his adventures. One night, he unbuttoned his shirt to display

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the scars left by arrows hurled at him after he
encountered a band of hostile aborigines in the South American Jungles.
Like almost anyone in the house, Alva Rodgers, a long
term resident at the parsonage, thought Hubbard was an enormously
engaging and entertaining personality. Rogers also had red hair, and
Ron confided to him his belief, confirmed by extensive research
he had undertaken at the Royal Museum in London, that

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all redheads were related, being descended from the same line
of Neanderthal men a classic that yeah, we're all that's
a classic. Good times, good times. So Hubbard started crashing
at the Parsons Manor, and, in true l Ron Hubbard form,
he paid as little as possible by sharing a bedroom

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with a broke reporter named Nisson Himmel. As a journalist,
Neeson was instantly skeptical of his roommate, telling an interviewer later,
I can't stand phonies, and to me he was so
obviously a phony, a real con man. But he was
certainly not a dummy. He was very sharp and quick,
a fascinating storyteller, and he could charm the ship out
of anybody. He talked interminably about his war experiences and

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seemed to have been everywhere. Once he said he was
on Admiral Halsey staff. I called a friend who had
worked with Halsey, and my friend said, shit, I've never
heard of him. I was not one of his favoritest people,
because I like to try and trip him up. One
time he told a story about how he was walking
down a corridor in the British Museum when he was
suddenly grabbed by three scientists who dragged him into an
office and began measuring his skull because it was such

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a perfect shape. I said, g Ron, that's a great story,
didn't I read it? And George Bernard Shaw Another time
he said he was in the Allusions in command of
a destroyer, and a polar bear jumped from an ice
flow onto his ship and chased everyone around. I realized
it as an old, old folklore story that goes way back.
He was always broken trying to borrow money. That was
another reason he didn't like me. I would never lend
him a cent. Whenever he was talking about being hard up,

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he often used to say that he thought the easiest
way to make money would be to start of religion.
My favorite. That's my favorite aleron Harvard line right there. Yeah.
And a lot of people think he just said that
to the one guy. I think it's like usually um
nine who reports it. But you know, he said that.
He said that a lot. He said that over and over.
He was extremely clear about that, not not off handed,

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even a little bit wasn't wasn't It wasn't a gotcha moment.
It was it was I'm a genius and I shall
make my money this way. Mmmmmmm. Also, I love that
I love to think about that time when it would
take someone extremely wise to be able to call you
on your own bullshit like that you could tell stories
like yeah, and if there wasn't someone around who knew

(25:03):
George or was like at least aware of authors and
stories and everything in history, you could just get away
with that ship. Yeah. It's just a matter of like,
have you read more ship than other beings? And if so,
you could probably convince them of anything. Yeah. I once
convinced a friend of mine that the band Hanson had
died in a bush crash. And you know, it's it's

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shockingly it's what we're saying. They're okay, by the way,
they're not dead. On December five, l Ron Hubbard was
mustered out of the Navy. The very next day, he
applied for a pension due to his sprained left knee,
conjunctive isis, chronic tatnal ulcer arthritis, recurrent malaria, and a

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weird pain on his left side that wouldn't go away
and had no cause, but that he was pretty sure
was service related. Now separated from me, Now separated from
the Navy, he devoted all his time to applying to
for more disability ignoring his wife and child and trying
to get in closer with Jack Parsons. Now by ninety six,
Danial Jack and his first wife, Helen had separated. Being

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a cool and totally emotionally mature dude, Jack did the
healthy thing and instantly started dating Helen's younger sister, Sarah Northrop,
when she was seventeen years old. Bro, I mean, that's
what most psychologists will recommend, so oh man. Shortly after

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they get together, Sarah drops out of usc uh and yeah,
moves in with her brother in law Jack and his
collection of weirdos and wizards. She starts going by the
name Betty, after her middle name, and she gets drawn
into the O T O and into sex magic. Now,
in keeping with Carley's teachings, Jack urged his new girlfriend
to have lots and lots of transgressive sex with other

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members of the lodge. Jealousy was an emotion of unenlightened beings,
something powerful wizards like Jack, attuned to the greater mysteries
of the cosmos, did not suffer from. Jack took great
joy in explaining to strangers how jealousy was for losers,
and he and Betty were better than normal people. Because
they did not feel it. And when you type it
out that way, the whole situation sounds like a fucking

(27:17):
time bomb. I mean it absolutely was. I mean we
we stand a sex positive king, but like that, yeah,
it has its limits most certainly. Yeah, and especially like
if you're the guy bragging about that and having her
have sex with strangers to test. Yeah, that's not that's
not they're healthy ways to do non monogamy. This is

(27:37):
not one of It doesn't really sound like yeah, um
so yeah, everyone who now I should know that. Everyone
who knew Betty and Jack at the time emphasized later
how deeply in love the couple appeared to be, and
for several months this seemed like it was something that
was actually going to last. Um. L Ron Hubbard would finally,
you know, break up this relationship. See being gullible and

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sort of dumb for a trailblazing rocket scientist. Jack Parsons
had immediately been taken in by L. R. H's charm.
He'd written Alistair Crowley his master at the start of
nineteen forty six. He Hubbard is a gentleman, red hair,
green eyes, honest and intelligent, and we have become great friends.
Although he has no formal training in magic, he has
an extraordinary amount of experience and understanding in the field.

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Ron appears to have some sort of highly developed astro vision.
He describes his angel as a beautiful winged woman with
red hair, whom he calls the Empress, and who has
guided him through his life and saved him many times.
He's in complete accord with our own principles. I have
found a staunch companion in comrade in Ron. Yeah, it's
just but he loves his guys, his buddy, Yeah, and

(28:45):
he's got his but Ron's Scott. Yeah. I gotta of course,
I've got a I've got a guardian angel. She's called
the Empress. Oh my god. So there's a lot of
debate to this day as to how much of the
magic stuff l Ron Hubbard actually believed. Some people argue,
and there's a decent amount of evidence for this that
a lot of scientology wound up just being a rip
off of Thallemma um, and that basically Hubbard was just

(29:07):
sort of laundering a lot of Crowley's ideas but making
them less tied to like the devil and stuff, and
so that you could kind of sell it to a
bunch of people in the fifties. That's an art. That's
an argument people will make. Others will say that that's
going too far. Um And you know, it seems in
either case true that l Ron Hubbard was primarily interested

(29:29):
in the Parsons Circle because he wanted to have a
lot of weird sex, cheap room and board in a
chance at conning a bunch of money out of a
dummy with too much of it enhanced. Yeah, it sounds
like Ron Hubbard. Yeah, yeah, So when Hubbard heard that
Parsons was actively encouraging other members of the circle to
fund his girlfriend, he jumped right on that train and
wrote it to pound town. Those. Yeah, those of you

(29:55):
who listened to our first three partner on l Ron
Hubbard will recall that the man did, in fact to fuck,
and in this instance, his fucking proved good enough that
Betty was soon completely in love with him. This was
tremendously painful for Jack Parsons, but he'd spent so much
time bragging to everyone about how he was immune to
jealousy that there was nothing for him to do but
smile and pretend everything was awesome. You have to stand

(30:17):
by your word at that point. If you're going to
be jealousy is an emotion of the week. Oh, it's Hubbard.
Absolutely knows what he's doing. Um, yeah and uh. Parsons
later wrote to Crowley, she has transferred her sexual affection
to Ron. I cared for her rather deeply, but I
have no desire to control her emotions now. Bron's roommate

(30:41):
him All later recalled Betty was beautiful, the most gorgeous, intelligent, sweet,
wonderful girl. I was so much in love with her,
and I knew she was a woman I could never have.
Then Hubbard comes along and starts having affairs with one
girl after another in the house and finally fastens on
to Betty. I couldn't believe it was happening there. He
was living off of parsons largesse and making out with
his girlfriend right in front of him. Sometimes when the
two of them were sitting at the table together, the

(31:03):
hostility was almost tangible. Wow, I mean yeah, yeah, I
can certainly imagine. Mm hmm. It seems like a less
fun house at this point. Definitely a less fun house
at this point. Yeah. And then again, to be a
fly on the wall for those scenarios had absolutely it
sounds incredible, seriously, so Jack seemed to need to feel

(31:27):
the need to really prove that he was super okay
with everything by starting a business with Ron and Betty.
Allied Enterprises was never much more than a vague plan
to buy yachts on the East Coast and seldom in
California at a profit. The whole idea has the distinctive
reek of an L R H scheme to it, and
my suspicion is that Hubbard recognized that Parsons had a
deep need to prove how cool he was with Hubbard

(31:49):
and Betty fucking and that doing something as mundanely normal
as going into business with them allowed him to really
present this image that he was like fine with everything.
I kind of think that's what Hubbard how he Hubbard
gets him to sign onto this um. So on January
fifty six, the three partners sign onto an agreement to
start this business. Jack puts in the majority of his

(32:10):
savings twenty thousand dollars. Ron puts in all of his
savings too, but this only comes to and Betty puts
in nothing. For a while, the business went nowhere and
the money sat in an account while Jack and Hubbard
set to work engaging in more magical endeavors. So at
the same time as they're starting this business, Jack Parsons,
who still hurt from the loss of Betty, had started

(32:30):
engaging in a nightly incantation ritual what he called the
conjuration of Air, invocation of Wand, and consecration of Air Dagger.
The goal of these increasingly elaborate rituals was to summon
a new girlfriend for Jack Parsons. Jack, It's okay, well,
summon you a new girlfriend. Yeah, we'll summon you a girlfriend, Jack, So, yeah,

(32:56):
an elemental mate as Jack Calner. Now I want to
be clear here, Daniel, Jack didn't just want a girlfriend.
He wanted to summon the incarnate form of the Horror
of Babylon so that he could impregnate her with a
moon child. It just gets so much deeper. It's just

(33:17):
like he keeps going when like, yeah, just the I
will remind you all this is one of the founding
fathers of rocketry. Oh my gosh, it's incredible. That is
that is uh, that is truly beyond. But now at
this point is no surprise. So I'm ready. I'm ready.

(33:38):
Let's keep it going, baby. So I'm not an expert
in the cold Daniel. I've only participated in one demon
summoning and it was a goetic ritual. Um. But I'm
so I'm not an expert on this, and I tend
to think it's all kind of nonsense anyways. So I
hope my O t O and Satanist and Thella my
friends will forgive me if I get some details wrong
about what precisely Jack Parsons and l Ron Hubbard we're
trying to do, because it's recomplicated, But feel feel free

(34:02):
to sound off in the comments because I would like
to read how it's supposed to go down, because this
sounds fascinating. Go off. The short of it is that
Hubbard started working as a scribe and basically taking notes
and watching the music ly well. Jack Parsons masturbated in
a variety of elaborate ways a short stroke today. Yeah wow,

(34:29):
I found him. Yeah, it's it's awesome. I found a
medium article written by someone who's a lot more ac
cultically trained than I am, and he explained the rituals
this way. Quote. The method employed was that of the
solo eighth degree working of the O t O. Parsons
used his magic wand his penis to whip abo vortex
of energy so the elemental would be summoned. Translated into

(34:50):
plain English, Parsons jerked off in the name of a
spiritual advancement, while Hubbard, referred to as the Scribe in
the diary of the event, scanned the astral plane for
signs and visions so that, you know, just hanging out
with my friend masturbates perfect. That that does sound like

(35:13):
a good saturday. Me and me and a buddy, him
coming me, looking at the astro plane, taking notes. Times,
just good, just good times. Life was really a lot
better before the Internet. Taking notes and note and strokes.
That's what we're doing. That's what we're doing out here.
Sophie just shook her head disappointedly, which is frankly, exactly

(35:34):
what I was going for. Yeah, it's the only way
this could go. So after the first few nights of
these masturbation adventures, Pasadena was hit by a series of
powerful windstorms, one of which knocked out the power. Now,
if you've spent any amount of time in Pasadena, you'll
know that heavy winds are not a rarity there. Jack
took this note. They're constantly But Jack took this as
a sign that his magical ritual was working and now

(35:57):
one On Hubbard played along, claiming on January fourteen that
some form of celestial force had hit him on the
right shoulder and knocked a candle out of his hand.
Parsons Leader wrote, he called me and we observed a
brownish yellow light about seven feet high. I brandished a
magical sword and it disappeared. Roun's right arm was paralyzed
for the rest of the night. These two gentlemen are

(36:19):
both so up each other's asses. Brandished it so time out.
Real question, is the magical sword just his penis? I
it has to be right, and it has to be
his penis. Okay, okay, cool, I love that brandish a
magical sword. I'll be sure too. It's the best. I'm
sure to bust that one out next time. Yeah. Everything

(36:40):
that's happening here rules, and I'm fine with it. Amazing now.
The very next night, they began their rituals again, with
Jack masturbating furiously while l Ron Hubbard took notes on
his furious masturbation. Midway through the celestial wank session, oh
Ron Hubbard claimed to have some sort of astro vision

(37:01):
and see one of parsons enemies standing behind him, wearing
a black robe and bearing an evil, pasty face. According
to Parsons, Hubbard quote attacked the figure and pinned it
to the door with four big throwing knives with which
he is expert. So l Ron Hubbard is a master
of throwing knife. This is this is some sci fi

(37:21):
for sure. So I used my throwing knives. Wow, okay,
I love it. I love it. It seems like this
is like this is like it's an anime plot right here.
For the next four days, Parsons and Hubbard grew increasingly
nervous and jumping. This may have something to do with
the unspoken reality that both men were on literal buckets

(37:41):
of uppers throughout this entire process. This does not get
emphasized enough in any discussions of even l Ron Hubbard specifically.
But like these guys and Hubbard for decades, these guys
are on so much fucking speed. That's like, however much
fucking speed, Like they're on enough speed that if like,
if they've been parting with or Thompson, he would have
been like, guys, you are doing way too much speech.

(38:05):
Doctor called down. That is an important and I will
say when I had my occult face, I was also
doing a lot of sucking speeds. So you know, it
comes with the territory. You know, it comes with the territory.
So the ritual masturbation. It continued until January eighth, when

(38:28):
Jack Parsons and L. R. H headed out to the
Mojave Desert to conduct some new ritual that probably involved
Parsons coming on a rock. Desert magic inspired another vision
in Parsons as he felt and he felt his anxiety
fade away. He turned to Hubbard and said, it is done.
They returned home drains of magical energies and bodily fluids.

(38:50):
It is done. It is done. They returned. They returned home,
drained of magical energies and bob Lee fluids to find
a young red haired woman matching Jack's requirements waiting at
the parsonage, which is what he called his house for them.
Now her name. The reality of the situation, Daniel, is

(39:11):
that Jack Parsons was a really handsome genius with a
fuck mansion and young women were always showing up to fuck.
It was like that it was a place where you
go to fucking do drugs. And this happened a lot.
But in this particular case, this woman, uh, Marjorie Cameron,
came to the house the night after they went out
to go masturbait in the Mahave together, so they thought

(39:32):
that she had been summoned by the ritual um. As
far as they know, she was okay. So Parsons convinced
himself that Marjorie was an elemental spirit, the scarlet woman,
capable of bearing the incarnate at essence of the whole
of the Beast of Babylon and bringing it back into
the world. Jack and Marjorie quickly started fucking, and Jack

(39:55):
wrote excitedly back to his master Alistair Crowley, I have
my elemental She turned up one night after the conclusion
of the operation and she has been with me since.
She has red hair and slant green eyes. Is specified.
She's an artist, strong minded and determined, with strong masculine
characteristics and a fanatical independence. So we love an independent woman. Yeah.

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Crowley replied with a vague statement that he'd been trying
to intervene personally to help Jack in his magical quest
to find a girlfriend. I can't be certain, but it
sounds to me like Crowley was just saying what he
thought would Butter Parsons up the most because he needed
more money from Parsons. That's it. I mean, you're probably right,
and you know who needs more money from you, dear listeners,

(40:39):
the products and services. Yeah, let's support this podcast. Yes, yes,
I feel confident saying all of our sponsors will follow
you into the desert to masturbate on a rock, so
you too can sumn the horror of Babylon, that hor Yeah.
We we have that clause in our in our our our,

(41:00):
our our agreements with the advertisers, right, Sophie, that they'll
help you summon the horror Babylon. Okay, cool, yep, here
you go. We're back, and we're talking about l Ron
Hubbard and Jack Parsons and sex magic and jerking off
on rocks. Jerking off on rocks. So in late February

(41:25):
l R. H flew down to the East Coast to
look at yachts he might buy with Jack's money, while
Parsons drove alone again into the Mojave to perform an
invocation of the Goddess Babylon, probably by masturbating in the
desert again. He claims he was visited by the goddess
who started reading out a series of seventy seven clauses
that he wrote down in a notebook, the Book of Babylon.
He believed these were instructions for how he could impregnate

(41:47):
his elemental girlfriend with a moon child. Just all right,
you got I don't even keep going. I don't even know.
Quote from the goddess that he met after coming on
a rock in the desert. Now was the hour of
birth at hand? Now shall my adept be crucified in

(42:09):
the basiliskabode thy tears, I sweat, thy blood, thy seamen,
thy love, thy faith shall provide. So we aren't we all? Oh?
This podcast? A lot of comers on this episode Birth
to the moon Child for short after that, so, Parsons

(42:29):
and Hubbard both wound up back in Pasadena by early March,
and Jack told his best buddy what he'd seen out
in the desert, essentially playing yes. And Hubbard then informed
Jack that he too had experienced a magical vision of
a savage and beautiful woman writing naked on a great
catlike beast. I imagine that whenever l Ron Hubbard closed

(42:52):
his eyes, he just saw scenes from the movie Heavy Metal. Yes, Yes,
Oh my gosh. His inner monologue was illustrated by Ralph Baksh. Yeah,
I love it. I love it so um yeah. So
he tells her, Yeah, he's seen this vision of a
woman rending a cat, and this beautiful naked cat lady

(43:13):
had a message to deliver. And so the two magical
masturbaders prepared a new ritual so that they could receive
this message. And I'm gonna quote again from Bare Faced Messiah.
Candles were lit, incense burned, and a magical altar was
laid with flowers and wine. Hubbard describe wore a white
hooded robe and carried a lamp parsons. The High Priest
wore a black robe and carried a cup and dagger.

(43:35):
An automatic tape recorder was set up, and at a
Hubbard's suggestion, Rachmaninov's Isle of the Dead was played as
background music. At eight o'clock, began to intone Yeah. At
eight o'clock, Hubbard began to intone his message from the
astral world. These are the preparations, green gold cloth, food
for the beast upon a hidden platter. Back of the
altar disclosed only when the dolls are bolted. Transgression is death.

(43:57):
Back of the main altar prepare instantly at the first
flame at ten p m. March sCOD. The year of
Babylon is forty sixty three. After a few minutes, Parsons
noticed that his scribe was pale and sweating profusely. Hubbard
rested for a few minutes, and then continued, Make a
box of blackness at ten o'clock, Smear the vessel which
contains flame with fine own blood, Destroy at the altar

(44:20):
a thing of value. Remain in perfect silence, and heed
the voice of our lady. Speak not of this ritual
or of her coming to any person. And Hubbard said
a bunch more stuff like this. While the scarlet woman
Marjorie Cameron lay naked under a red robe. When Hubbard
prompted her, she read outlines that had been written for
her by Parsons when he was on his masturbation quest
in the desert. To love me is better than all things,

(44:42):
she chanted. Put on the wings and arouse the coiled
splendor within. You come unto me, to me, sing the
rapturous love songs under me, burned to me the perfume.
Drink to me, for I love you. I am the
blue lidded daughter of Sunset. I am the naked brilliance
of the voluptuous night sky. So throughout this whole process,
Jack and Marjorie, and probably l Ron Hubbard too, we're

(45:03):
all getting a hornier and hornier together. They read out together,
They read out a chorus Glory into the Scarlet Woman Babylon,
the mother of abominations, that writeth upon the beast, for
she hath split their blood in every corner of the earth.
And yo, she hath mingled in the cup of her Hordem. Wow,
her Hubbard, her Hordem. Yeah. Hubbard describe stood at the altar,

(45:25):
ranting about what was supposedly happening on the astral plane. Well,
Jack Parsons whipped out his magic wand and entered the
horror of Babylon. The two fucked like metht out hyenas
while l Ron Hubbard narrated, And this sort of thing
continued for three more days, three days, three days, Jesus,
three days they're doing this ship. I found I found

(45:47):
a report on this whole ritual written by the Sunday
Times in nineteen sixty nine, and I'm fucking shocked. This
was published in a mainstream newspaper in the sixties. It
notes quote on the third day. The ritual began four
hours before or dawn. Ron tells his companion lay out
a white sheet, place upon it blood of birth. Envision
her approaching the think upon the lewd lascivious things thou

(46:08):
couldst do. All is good to Babylon. All preserve the
material basis. Thus lust is hers, the passion yours. Consider
thou the beast. Raping these invocations along with other passages
and the ritual indicates that Parsons had collected specimens of
his own sperm and the girl's menstrual blood. Oh they
got samples, all right, Yeah. Well. Climax of the ceremony

(46:29):
occurred the following day, with Ron at the altar working
his two subjects into a sexual frenzy. Were Rock Modinov.
He intones such gyms as her mouth is bread, and
her breasts are fair, and her loins are full of fire,
and her lust is strong as a man is strong
in the heat of her desire. Wow, real, real words
worth right there, Yeah, and exalted, Parsons wrote the next day,

(46:52):
Babylon is incarnate upon the earth today, awaiting the proper
hour of her manifestation, and in that day my work
will be accomplished, and I shall be blown away upon
the breath of the Father, even as it is prophesied.
And it's probably at this point that we should discuss
what precisely Jack Parsons thought he was doing other than
having a bunch of kinky sex while his best friend,
the founder of scientology, watched him and quoted from what

(47:13):
was basically a D and D source book. Ye, so, yeah,
what what was going on the old noodle up there? Yeah?
Well what was he think? What did he think he
was doing? So this moon child that he wanted to
impregnate Marjorie with was a homunculous which he described as
a living being inform, resembling a man and possessing those
qualities of man which distinguished him from beasts, namely intellect

(47:35):
and power of speech, but neither be gotten, nor born
in the manner of human generation, nor inhabited by a
human soul. So he wants to birth this soulless monster, um,
so that he can, Yeah, so that he can. Yeah.
So Crowley had written a lot a lot about this
idea and felt that the goal of all great magicians
was to create a messiah vious sex magic, and Jack's

(47:57):
goal was basically to to fuck Matt into Marjorie, a
living soul was being that he could then summon the
spirit of the horror of Babylon into so the Okay,
but and then what and then what is that? Just
like his his beast of his beast of control? Is
he like? What what is that? What is this homunculous?

(48:18):
Then achieve I will tell you, Daniel, I will tell you.
This is what Jack Parsons wrote. The operation was formulated
to open an interdimensional doorway, rolling out the red carpet
for the appearance of the Goddess Babylon in human form,
employing the angelic language of the Enochian cause of Elizabethan
magus John d In the attraction of the sex force

(48:40):
of the duo's copulation. To this end, the Babylon working
itself was a preparation for what was to come, a
thelemic Messiah to wit Babylon incarnate as a living female,
the Scarlet Woman, his consort to the Antichrist, bride to
the Beast six six six and affect. Parsons also claimed
the mantle of Antichrist for himself. Without the Scarlet Woman,
the Antichrist cannot make his man of festation, the eschatological

(49:02):
formula must first be complete and wider words, the magical
rights of the Babylon working. It was parsons goal to
bring on the apocalypse. Sorry, this is from that medium
of past analyzing all this occultically, so of course, yeah,
he's trying to bring on the apocalypse. Now, it's important
to understand what Jack Parsons conceived of as the apocalypse.

(49:22):
He was not trying to bring about the end of
the human race um. Rather, he was trying to bring
about the end of the Western Christian world order. He
felt that the ruling class and the United States and
most of the rest of the world was corrupt and hypocritical,
and this was definitely true of Christian religious leaders. The
invocation of Babylon was meant to end to that world

(49:42):
and bring about a new age of free love. Upon
completion of his multi day funk ritual with his new
girlfriend and his buddy l Run Hubbard, Parsons was a
static that he had started the process that would end
with the breaking of the world order. He wrote yet
another letter to Crowley on March six. I can hardly
tell you or decide how much to write. I am
under command of extreme secrecy. I have had the most important,

(50:03):
devastating experience of my life, and he meant that in
a good way. He outlined the ritual he performed to
his master, who, rather than being excited, responded with utter shock.
You have me completely puzzled by your remarks. I thought
I had the most morbid imagination, but it seems I
have not. I cannot form the slightest idea of what
you can possibly mean. The same day, Crowley sent a
letter to the head of the American branch of the

(50:25):
O t O. Apparently Parsons are Hubbard or somebody is
producing a moon child. I get fairly frantic when I
contemplate the idiocy of these lauds. So just shading your
boy right there. Wow. So Alistair Crowley knew a con
artist when he saw and he suspected that Hubbard was
playing along with this whole caper, both for the sex,

(50:47):
which he got in plentiful quantity, and because doing these
rituals would help him build up trust with Jack Parsons,
so we could then rob the High priest blind. And
this is exactly what happened. In May, l R. H.
Betty Northrop fled California with something like ten to twenty
dollars of Jack parsons money, ostensibly to buy a yacht
to resell on the West coast, but instead they stayed

(51:08):
on the Eastern seaboard, living off Jack's savings. Uh and yeah,
just just stole all of his savings. So after this happened,
you did absolutely damn no. No, didn't even get the
moon child. Maybe he did. We'll talk about that at
the end. Okay. One O t O cult member wrote

(51:32):
to the head of the American branch of the church
after l Ron Hubbard stole of Jack's money. Ron and
Betty have their boat at Miami, Florida and are living
the life of Riley, while brother John Parsons is living
at rock bottom, and I mean rock bottom. So Crowley
cabled his U S office on this message, suspect Ron
playing a confidence trick, Jack Parsons weak fool, obvious victim,

(51:53):
prowling swindlers. In a letter a few days later, he said,
it seems to me, on the information of our brethren
in California, that Parsons has got an illumination in which
he lost all his personal independence. From our brother's account.
He has given away both his girl and his money.
Apparently it is the ordinary confidence trick, and to his
intellectual credit, Jack Parsons did eventually realize what was going on.
By July five, he had traveled to the East coast and,

(52:16):
in the words of a letter to his master, pursued
the children of my folly. He succeeded in salvaging about
three thousand dollars of the money Hubbard had escaped with.
In true form, credited this with his magical abilities, summoning
a squall to stop their boat from leaving port. He
also went to the police for help, which maybe had
more of an impact, so my squaw. Yeah. After recovering

(52:39):
the last of his money, Jack Parsons left l Ron
Hubbard and Betty Northrope, both of whom wound up bigamously
married later before splitting up violently in the early nineteen fifties.
Parsons never saw either of them again, but he remained
with Marjorie, still dedicated to summoning a moon child and
becoming the Antichrist. In fact, he took the oath of
the Antichrist at ninety eight and changed his name to

(53:00):
Balerian Armylists. I'll dig all Antichrist. What say that? Again
Balerian armilists. I'll die, I'll die. Anti Christ is like
the Islamic name for saying okay, cool, Just anti Christ
thrown in there at the end, just in case it
wasn't clear enough. Yeah, great cool, Yeah, yeah for sure dog. Sadly,

(53:23):
all this monkeying around with the occult had a negative
impact on Jack's career as a rocket scientist. He'd been
forced out of the JPL. Yeah, because of his growing
weirdness and experimentation. Keep jerking off on the rockets. You
gotta stop coming on the rockets, Jack. As the Cold
War settled in during the late nineteen forties and early

(53:43):
nineteen fifties, Jack was caught up in the dragnet of
suspicion over communist sympathizers in the Defense Research establishment. His
security clearance was pulled. And the irony here is that
Jack was very fucking far from being a communist. He
was more of a libertarian than anything else, and described
himself as both anti fascist and anti communist. But the
FBI saw weirdo, free love magic person and assumed that

(54:03):
made him a dirty comic. Jack went through a series
of jobs after this, including some work for an Israeli
company that brought him under suspicion of being a spy.
He wound up destitute making pyrotechnics for the film industry
in order to make ends meet. In nineteen fifty two,
at the age of thirty seven, he was working on
a large order when he dropped a vial of nitroglycer
and blew himself into the astral plane. Yeah, yeah, sad story.

(54:29):
Oh I wasn't aware of that part of the story.
Oh wow, he blew himself up. Depending on who you ask,
this was either a horrible accident or a targeted assassination
ordered by the US government. And it's entirely possible he
was assassinated because, like he was working with these Israeli companies,
and there were a lot of people who thought, like,
this guy's just got is too smart, has too much

(54:50):
dangerous knowledge to be allowed to like funk around and
be desperate for money, and like, if we can't use
him because he's such a whack job, then we're going
to have to kill him. Maybe it did happen, Who knows.
There are even those who suspect Marjorie, the infamous Scarlet Woman,
of being his assassin. She'd been in the Navy before
so like I don't know. L Ron Hubbard had no

(55:10):
more dealings with the O T O after this, but
in nineteen sixty nine, his newfound Church of Scientology began
to spin the story of L. R. H's days as
an occult sex scribe to claim that he'd really been
a secret government agent task with destroying the U S
black magic scene. They issued this statement. Hubbard broke up
black magic in America because he was well known as
a writer and philosopher and had friends among the physicists.

(55:31):
He was sent in to handle the situation of black
magic being practiced in a house in Pasadena occupied by
nuclear physicists. He went to live at the house and
investigated the black magic rights in the general situation and
found them very bad. Hubbard's mission was successful, far beyond
anyone's expectations. The house was torn down. Hubbard rescued a
girl they were using the black magic group was dispersed
and never recovered. He've rescued a girl. That's that fucking

(55:52):
mainstream media for you. Narative rescued a girl by ah
leaping with her and then stealing her baby. Several years later,
my hero modern occultists are heavily split over the legacy
of Jack Parsons and the Babylon Working as it is called.

(56:14):
A number of occultists will argue that the ritual that
Jack Parsons carried out may have actually worked, just not
in the way Parsons had anticipated. As one of them,
a fellow named Metzker, noted, perhaps Parsons was an antichrist,
and his particular mission was to pry open the apocalyptic
gateway and activate the occult forces necessary for the upheaval
of consciousness. But this will not happen without a struggle

(56:34):
between the forces of control, black magic, and oppressive boredom
on one hand, and the Luciferian agents of wisdom, unleashed creativity,
and anarchic rebellion on the other. We have been brainwashed
to believe is good patriotism, so called free enterprise, private property, Christianity,
not the teachings of Christ, but the hateful travesty that
the religion bearing his name has become thanks to the
likes of Pat Robertson and his filthy ilk. Is now

(56:55):
beginning to be seen by the emerging generation of the
crowned and conquering child to be the death trap bullshit
it truly is a whole culture is collapsing and a
new one is about to be born. Jack Parsons would
be pleased. Wow, so there's an optimistic way to end it.
I mean, I I suppose so, Yes, how you feeling

(57:18):
about L. R. H. Jack Parsons and the moon Child?
If I'm being completely real with you, I just see
this like a movie where it's like you have a
shot that's like thirty meters away, it's a steady shot,
and you just see l Ron Hubbard sitting on the
ground with his notepad, and then Jack Parsons just hunched over,
just jerking off as fast as he possibly can, and

(57:41):
just like, yes, yes we must summon. And I just
the ghosts I never needed. Oh my god, I just
can't get it out of my head. And that is
just too funny to me. Um, it's amazing. I feel
I feel a little I feel for Mr. Parsons. Will
be honest with you, that's no, it sucks it over.

(58:04):
He totally got sucked over that poor that poor moon
child wanting ma'am, that poor moon child wanting antichrist Man. Well, yes, Robert,
this was a fun tale, it really was. Thank you
so much. For having me. I'm honored to be to
to be receiving this incredible story. M hm. Well, Daniel,

(58:26):
keep this in mind, because one day I may call
upon you to follow me out to the desert and
take notes on what ghosts do while I masturbate. Robert.
I would follow you to the ends of the earth,
and I'd be happy doing it. It's okay, Can you
can be just you and me, Robert. We'll just tell
Sophi about it afterwards. Hell yeah, we will. I would
like just Daniel and Robert jacking off in the mohave.

(58:50):
There we go. Stay tuned, okay, Um, listen to all
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(59:11):
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thank you all for being so funny on the internet.

(59:32):
And Robert, thank you for having me. This has been
such a pleasure. Thank you for being on Daniel, and
thank all of you for listening to this story, which
I think has involved the use of the word and
variations of the word come more than any other episode
of this show. Could not be more thrilled to be
part of that. Wait, you would have thought Cody Johnson
was in the room. You would have thought Cody Johnston

(59:53):
was in the room. Um, but he was here. He
was here in spirit, was masturbating in the moha. So
I'm sorry, Cody. Can. You can find this podcast on
the internet behind the Bastards dot com, including the book
Bare Face Messiah, which is all available in its entirety
for free online. It's a great read and it's an

(01:00:14):
amazing story of the life of l Ron Hubbard. Um.
You can find me on Twitter at I right, okay.
You can find this podcast on Twitter and Instagram at
at Bastards pod uh. And you can find a moon
child of your own if you just find a couple
of good friends to come with. Rocks On and talk
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(01:00:37):
the episode. Love it.

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