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January 12, 2021 70 mins

Robert is joined again by Katy Stoll and Cody Johnston to continue discussing Ben Shapiro's horrible novel.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello, America. I'm Robert Evans. This is Behind the Bastards,
a podcast about terrible people. And just the other day
I was doing, you know, normal things for a leftist,
anarchist democratt, mainly namely masturbating to slash fiction about Barack
Obama and Joseph Stalin, my two heroes, when I came

(00:21):
across a book, a book that reminded me of all
of the wonderful beauty of conservatism and all of the
evils of my morally bankrupt liberal ideology. And today we're
going to read another section from that book, Ben Shapiro's
True Allegiance. Katie and Cody, why don't you come onto
the stage and take a bow? Hello? Hello, thank you,

(00:43):
thank you so much. Oh it's too much, too much,
thank you, thank you, thank you. You guys do it.
We do it for you. Guplode from Joy Hi, more
praise please, more praise? Oh guy? Okay, first question for
the annal, who do you think is the bottom Obama

(01:04):
or Stalin um Obama? Obama? Obama? You think so? Huh,
I've I've experienced your episode. Yeah. This is going to
be the new Stalin Trotsky Debate, and it's about whether
or not Stalin or Obama's a bottom. You haven't yet,
so maybe there's more information. Well, yeah, I have yet.

(01:25):
I've yet to learn about his habits, but I could
see that I think Obama's you know, yeah, I do
think that Biden or that not Biden Stalin. Sorry, they're
both such similar people. I think that Stalin is probably
has the versatility to be a switch for sure. Yeah,
who's to say, to be a fly on the wall
of that fan fick. I mean, I have some good

(01:47):
news about the way fan fiction works, Katie. I'm very
excited to be back. Um. I was not able to
attend the last chapters. Yeah that day, Yeah, yeah, you
know you missed. Ben Shapiro still has not learned how

(02:09):
to write a single sentence. Yeah, as far as I know. Yeah,
to be fair, he got a little sleepy. M Yeah,
maybe a sleepy on the third day when four days
to write this. Yeah, and on the fourth day he
got sleepy. Yeah. You know, we had a we had

(02:29):
a couple of different things in there, um, including President
Mark Prescott, who's who's white? Obama getting to give his
equivalent of the speech. George Bush gave it ground zero,
which is bad when a Democrat does it. But it
was good that George Bush did it. Um, simple maths
and yeah, and actually we're going to start again with
another President Prescott chapter as we as we turned into

(02:53):
six of the way through True Allegiance. So that's the
only thing I really missed was that the president gave
a speech. No, I mean, the black gangster character got
angry that the Al Sharpton character didn't want to kill
cops as much, so he started a secret plan to
replace all of the cops with gangsters. Uh, cops aren't

(03:17):
already gangsters. Change changing the force that move. Oh and
Brett Hawthorne did a did what what what's the term
when you you judge people based on their racest criminals? Um?
Oh yeah, racial profiling. And then it didn't help. And
but the point was still that it's good to do. Yeah,

(03:40):
didn't do what it was supposed to do. Um, and
learned nothing. He learned. Yeah, bit is even bad at
writing propaganda. Unbelievable, wrote a case against it. Still didn't
still see what he's doing. Yeah, because he kind of
had the people who Bret Hawthorne was ordering to do
racial profiling be like this is bad because it's racial profiling,

(04:01):
and then the racial profiling doesn't work and it turns
out they were right. But you're not supposed to walk
away from the book thinking that it was a good
it was a good try. We're glad he did it
because we need to keep doing it, alright, alrightn we
love we love your commas. So, almost two thirds of
the way into the book, here's President Prescott's chapter New

(04:22):
York City, featuring a lot of other characters. Yeah, you
could switch forward in time thirty what we're starting there,
We'll see where we land. Ben knows that the key
to any like, really readable piece of fiction is that
the reader never have any sense of grounding or understanding
of where he is, much like yeah, yeah, yeah, this

(04:45):
is this is I would describe Ben Shapiro as most
like this true allegiance is most similar to, for example,
the Dubliners. It's just like the Dubliners. That's surely that's
what he's going for, really nailing the just this consistent inconsistency. Yeah,
I do. Now, thinking about Ben Shapiro trying to write

(05:07):
James Joyce, I'm imagining Ben Shapiro writing about a character
masturbating through a hole in his pocket and like getting
stuck up, I'm not being able to write. Comes to uh,
just a book full of just like the sea wordword. Okay,

(05:30):
so the first chapter that we're going to read today
is Ellen, who remember is Ben Shapiro's wife, um, but
actually is Brett Hawthorne's wife, um. And he works for
Governor Bubba Davis, who is basically George Bush. I think
that's what Ben's going for. Yeah, he's bushy in. He's
he's bushy in and a perfectly rendered Texan been really

(05:51):
has spent a lot of time in my home state.
I can tell because he uses the classic Texan phrase
Horne swaggled all. The Governor Davis's refusal to send the
National Guard to New York sparked a firestorm across the nation.
He cited precedent, hadn't The governor of California refused a
federal request to place National Guard troops on the border,

(06:13):
but in the aftermath of the bridge attack, he didn't
get much sympathy. Everyone knows that Texas thinks of itself
as its own little country. Shouted one MSNBC commentator into
the camera. Well that this was a man and not
a woman. Because this is how, this is how Ben
yet has to be a man because he didn't write screeching,

(06:37):
and it has to be a white man because he
absolutely would have told us if it was a black man.
So here's Ben Shapiro, who clearly knows how people talk
on NBC, describing what NBC would say. Everyone knows that
Texas thinks of itself as its own little country, but
this time their hick governor has shown himself to be
deeply unpatriotic. You don't get to be a star in

(06:59):
the lag of the United States and then go a
while when your country needs you, which is like, first,
actually a good point. Second, remember when a literal fascist
won the presidency and every mainstream news outlet couldn't wait
to go hang on at waffle houses and talk to
Trump voters, uh, and lecture liberals about being in a bubble.

(07:22):
Unfortunately still and still do every every day everything. But no,
MSNBC gets on and calls him a hick governor. Right, yeah,
he's getting it right. So yeah, Heroically, Governor Davis refuses
to send in the National Guard to help with a
mass casualty event that's killed thousands of Americans. Uh, and

(07:42):
the media lambasts him for it. The media ran with
the story a president calling for love and unity and
a southern secessionist governor looking like George Wallace. Never mind
that Davis that's stood with the marchers of the Civil
rights era. He now stood on the side of the
old South. The media through collade, which I love. So
to make this guy, to make this guy a good guy,
been just like has to invent that he marched with

(08:04):
civil rights marchers, which is like the easiest way to
get around, Like, I don't want people to think this
guy clearly being a bigot is a bigot. I'll just
say that he stood with Martin Luther King. Uh. It's
it's very funny. He's doing a good job und character,
you see well, and it's it's also just an example

(08:25):
of like how to not write a good book. Um,
because if you're writing a good book, you should always
be scared of giving yourself an easy answer. So, like,
if you're trying to make this character into clearly a good,
morally upright guy, your best way to end, Like you
just kind of off handedly mentioned that he marched with
civil rights marchers. That's the laziest way to make him

(08:47):
into a good person because again it's this whole show
like tell, don't show thing that Ben has going on,
because yeah, because the governor's actually being evil here, so
Ben just says, but in the past he did really
good thing, So what he's doing now is good because
Martin Luther King like, it's that's what a good thing is.

(09:07):
It would be considered unbelievably lazy if it wasn't the
person that we're talking about. It's very believably lazy. Yes,
it's believably lazy. Again, if you wanted to make this
more of an interesting book, have him actually have a
point and be in the right and the federal government
be wrong, but also have the governor be a guy
with a problematic past to his battling with that and

(09:27):
who like faces additional opposition because of bad things he's
done in the past that maybe like gives the bad
guys more like room to work with or something like,
make it an interesting fucking story. He saved a bus
full of nuns and school children in the past. We
don't need to see that way earlier, way earlier, No,
but that way, we don't have to waste words on it.

(09:49):
We can just tell you it's like how. It's like
how When they made the action movie Classic die Hard. Uh,
they mentioned that John McClain had stood with the civil
rights movements, that people would like him rather than painting
him as a deadbeat husband and then making him likable
through the things that he suffered and went through and
sacrifices he made throughout the movie. You know, I'm gonna

(10:09):
watch die Hard tonight. It's good sounds like good storytelling.
It's a Thanksgiving movie. It's a Christmas movie, a Thanksgiving movie.
Die Hard two is an Easter movie. Die Hard two
is an Easter movie. Is it's it's covered in snow
the whole time. It's another Christmas movie. Yeah. The President

(10:33):
of the United States. Uh okay, so um. Bubba Davis
turns to ubba civil rights hero basically Martin Luther King Jr.
Bubba Davis turns to Ellen ben Shapiro's wife and asks
her to be like the public face of his resistance
to the federal government, and she refuses because the President

(10:55):
of the United States, she told Davis, had brought her
husband home in one piece. He made mistakes. She knew
he'd exile her husband based on lies, separated them for years.
Slash the military, undermine the mission, she thought. But in
the end, he brought Brett home and that was all
that mattered to her, Which is, you know, actually a
vaguely reasonable step for a character to take in this book.
That's like a human being, Like, yeah, no, on that sentence,

(11:18):
you know what been good on you? That was a
believable single paragraph Was it a single paragraph sentence? Yeah, okay,
let's see here. Yeah, he'd exiled her husband based on lies.
Comma separated them for years. Comma slash the military, comma
undermine the mission, comma. She thought. Yeah, it's not a
great sentence. The sentence structure isn't good, but the paragraph

(11:39):
covers useful emotional Yeah, absolutely, it's it's it was an
attempt um And just because he kept the sentence going
a little longer, that's fine. Yeah, okay, Bubba says. When
she refuses, then I need you on the border. Somebody
has to head up this outfit, and if I go
down there, they'll accuse me of outright insurrection. You're competent,
your husband is a well known military figure, and well

(11:59):
damn it, you're a woman, and those sexists and the
press won't labor a woman an insurrectionist. Okay, so he
gives his I guess press secretary control of the military
forces he's placing on the border because as a woman,
the press won't accused her of leading an insurrection. So
which end of that is sexist? Is my question? The
media been uh landing on their great question. Um, I

(12:26):
think the media sexist because they won't call her an
insurrectionist when she starts leading an insurrection. Yeah, the media,
you know, we'll see maybe you know. Yeah, Okay, So
that in the next paragraph she's been there for a week. Um,
so I guess all of this was just going back
in time to ca. So this is so every time.

(12:47):
It's like, by the way, this is a year later.
And she had to admit that the border felt different.
It felt safe for the first time ever. Military vehicles
patrolled the Texas side of the river, with checkpoints set
up to funnel visitors and workers there after checking identification. Soldiers,
many speaking Spanish, spoke with the locals, helping to oh
my god, what a sentence. Soldiers Comma, many speaking Spanish.

(13:09):
Commas spoke with the locals, Comma helping to direct them
to the local ranches. Yeah, spoke with them to help
them with. Yeah, I mean saying simple adjustments to get
rid of all those commas. Yeah, it's it's it's just editor.
And also, I don't know if you ever spend a
lot of time and places where there's tons of military

(13:31):
vehicles and soldiers manning checkpoints, I can say from experience
in multiple countries, you don't feel very safe. Tons of
soldiers handling basic travel needs makes me feel like I'm
in a dangerous place, because every place I've been like
that has been dangerous, interesting, interesting feeling. Yeah. Also spent

(13:52):
a lot of time on the Texas border, and definitely
a lot of terrible things do happen on chunks of
the US Mexican border. It's a long border. Most of
it's pretty empty, you know. Uh. Yeah. She'd been there
for a week and there hadn't been any dead kids
in the river. Every so often, a black helicopter had
buzzed the troops on the American side of the border.
Ellen thought it might be members of the same drug

(14:14):
cartel that had killed Vivian. She even thought that she'd
seen one of the men wearing a bandana over his face.
She told the generals of the guard that she didn't
want to see any fire at the helicopters unless fired upon.
Things were bad enough without starting a war. In the
last few days, yes, she needed to tell the military
not to shoot random helicopters out of the sky. In

(14:34):
the last few days, the helicopters had buzzed closer and closer,
probing frauding American response. The Americans merely observed the guard
had no intelligence capacities. Every soldier I know who's worked
with guardsmen would agree with that statement, and fairness to Ben.
The Feds hadn't been particularly responsive since Davis's big announcement,
but Ellen had some private investigators do some digging. What
they found shocked her. The city of Warez, they said,

(14:56):
was won by the Warez Cartel, one of the most
dangerous criminal enter prices on the planet. It's leadership and
passed down through the Careo Fuintes brothers, who had turned Okay,
So he starts talking about cartel's cartel's cartels. Uh okay,
And now he's just quoting two thousand six Guardian article
about crimes of the wires cartels. Yeah, we've got Ben

(15:19):
Shapiro writing a Daily Wire article about the cartels for
his website. Alright, No, he actually cites the two thousand
six article from the UK Guardian and wait a second, Yeah,
so what fucking world are we in? Yeah, that's a
great question. The timeline in this is not super clear
because Obama was also president in the past. Okay, I

(15:41):
thought that they did find weapons of mass destruction. They did.
How does this fucking Guardian article from our world still
fucking exists. Well, I mean, you know, they found the
w m D. Is in the Middle East, there's still cartels.
I guess Middle Eastern history is completely different in Ben's world,
but everything is the same up until two thousand sixteen ish. Yeah,

(16:04):
I don't care anymore. Yeah, uh yeah, the presence of
American troops on the board. So basically she goes into
how like it had been so dangerous. She cites a
bunch of horrible things cartels did in Wirez, and then
points out that since all the soldiers were now on
the border, all of the violence in Wirez had stopped,
So it was it was that simple tools. Some people

(16:27):
might note that the Mexican military is basically armed identically
to the United States military and has not succeeded in
any way, shape or form with crushing the cartels who
are similarly armed. In a lot of cases, people might
note that some people wouldn't be Ben Shapiro. Why would Yeah.
So Ellen's job is to keep the peace on the border. Uh,

(16:50):
she'd have to do better. She knew one incident gone
wrong could end Davis's dreams of a safe Texas. So,
I guess everything's working great on the border because the
army is there. Um, it's good. Yeah. So we have
a little line break and then we're I guess in
the have advanced an indeterminate amount of time in the future.
It's still so far that could change any second. We

(17:14):
don't know. Ellen's cell phone rang New York number. She
picked up. Hey, sweetheart, Brett's rich baritone rumbled through the phone.
Give me, give me a break. No, I can't wait
to hear Ben Shapiro write about these two love birds. Birds.
I'm sorry, but we are. We are into the book.

(17:37):
Need this description rich? Actually, I think you do, Hey sweetheart,
says Brett's rich baritone. Hey babe, she said, miss you.
His voice sounded thick over the phone. Almost hear already
know you said it. Okay, sorry, okay, it's fine, Just

(17:58):
a few days ago. They've been so close to re nighting. Now,
with commercial air travel shut down in the crisis in
New York, it could be weeks, they both knew. But
this was something new too. Bret never talked like this
since the rescue from a Bret hadn't been himself. He
never called her sweetheart called. She could imagine why, and
she could imagine his face. She longed to reach out

(18:19):
and touch it. Miss you two. How's Bill? He's hanging
in there? Another pause? Are you okay? Bill? By the way,
is their friend whose wife and young daughter were just killed.
That's what they spare for Bill. How's Bill? He's fine.
In fairness to Ben, the way he wrote, Bill, he
clearly was not broken up over the death of his
wife and child. That is true. He's doing He's doing great.

(18:42):
He's right back to work. Are you okay? Yes, that's
a no, he laughed. So did she. Davis made a
mistake not sending the troops. You know, I know, she answered,
And I have a feeling something's coming here, something bad.
I'm getting the same feeling. It's not over. Is it
a long pause? No, I don't think it is. Someone
knocked on the door. To Ellen's office. I gotta run, babe.

(19:04):
She said, take a bullet for you. Bret Hawthorne responds,
take a bullet for you, sweetheart. She hung up. Every time,
that's the only that's what they say at the end.
That's they're cute thing, take a bullet for you. And

(19:25):
I've heard variations of this from a couple of different
people who had family members who would end every conversation
with I love you, you know, aunts and uncle's grandparents,
and they were like, you know, it always seemed kind
of silly to me until the day that like they died,
and then I remembered the last thing that they said
to me was that they loved me, And like, now
I understand why they did, and that's legitimately like heartwarming
and a wonderful thing. Uh, take a bullet for you

(19:48):
is not, No, it's not. It's so interesting to associate
violence with love. It says a lot about Bim. But
that's his equivalent of like, we just want them to
know how they feel. So mentioned being shot. Every time
you finish a conversation the last remember the last time

(20:09):
what we spoke, I said, I fucking die in a
rain of bullet fire. Yeah, for you, for them, Oh,
get stabbed in the abdomen repeatedly for you, babe. You
can stabbed in the abdomen repeatedly for you. Fucking funk
out my insides with searing hot metal for you, babe.
For you, I'll pull my hamstring for you, baby. Yeah,

(20:34):
I'll suffer hydrostatic shock as a high velocity around tears
through my organs for you, babe. I love it. You too,
of it, babe. And again, if you wanted to do
like a fun cookie couple, you could have them do
increasingly deranged versions of that to end their conversations. That's
what's happening. Show that shows like, oh they're playful and

(20:56):
they know yeah, gets sodomized by a drill bit for you,
pay you can have fun with it. They love each other.
Look at how much fun they Yeah, that's this. They're
kind of dark. They have this dark sensibility as opposed
to I can't even read them saying that without like
gagging time. Yeah, it has every time. There's a visceral

(21:17):
reaction to it too. It's the only piece of Vins
writing that makes me feel anything. Okay, So she hangs
up on Combat General Brett Hawthorne, and then she gets
a slip of paper from a sergeant in the Guard
that tells her it came from h Q. And we'll
find out what that slip of paper says. But first, Cody, Katie, Yeah,

(21:40):
you know what, We'll take a bullet for you, my man. No,
that's not the answer. The products and services that support
this podcast. Of course, we should really get sponsored by
body armor. Yeah. See if hesco will, Yeah that Robert
throw some bucks at us where I'd prefer not to

(22:01):
get shot for you, babe. So I wear Class four plates,
stay out of danger and like be happy somewhere else.
I'll attempt to stay safe as best I can for you, babe. Okay,

(22:22):
we're back. So she's just gotten a letter from h Q.
Ellen goes to the some command headquarters. Oh boy, we're
talking about journalists again. By the time she arrived at
the mobile home, which is, I guess the mobile headquarters
for the Guard, a small credit journalists had formed outside.
As she stepped out of her car, the cameras clacked away.
The focus of the nation was certainly in New York,
she thought, but that didn't make the regional journalists any

(22:44):
less hungry to get their footage on the national broadcast.
It's an awkward sentence. Yeah, she saw the boxes. She
stepped inside the empty room sitting on a makeshift deft
at table. Somebody had cold from the local rec center.
That's an awkward way of tell you there's a box
in the room. That's yeah, I read that again. Please
she saw so this is her like she saw the boxes.

(23:05):
She steps inside the empty room, comma sitting on a
makeshift desk a table, somebody had cold from the local
rec center. The box was card Yeah, that sentence. She
walked into a trailer. There was a makeshift desk, and
on top of the desk was a box water log
and cardboard or something that I wanted to do, like

(23:26):
a search of how many commas are you used in
this book? When we're done billions, that will break my machine.
I only have four cores to compute that that with.
I don't have enough ram in this machine. So yeah,
the boxes cardboard, wet at the bottom, a wet plastic
bags hat beside it. The box had been carved open
at the top. She crept up on it. Why did

(23:47):
she creep up? Another real champion of a sentence? She
crept up on it, Comma the pressure in her chest,
screaming at her to not look inside, screaming, huh, there's
a head. There's a head in the box. We're having
our seven moment here, and it's the head of some
National Guard motherfucker. Who oh, I guess a National Guard

(24:09):
guy had been imprisoned in Mexico for months and she's
just letting us know about this here because she finally
got her head. Um, if you're I'm sorry, maybe dropped
that earlier. I don't know, Like you know, he wrote
this book in one sitting. He wrote her all the
way through and it's like and he got sleepy at
this point. If you want to do this scene, you

(24:30):
pick any moment in any of the pages before this,
and you mentioned this fucking once. You have the governor
have an angry phone call with the President about how
this man is in danger and he's been kidnapped, and
the President says, we're going to take care of it.
He's going to be fine, like they don't want to
kill him. And you you show the president as like
an unreasonable and and detached from reality, and the governor

(24:52):
is caring about this guy. You established that like this
is a major issue. And then when his head shows
up in a box, it means more than nothing at all,
more than nothing at all, than nothing at all, even
just a little bit, a little bit should be the
bare minimum, just a bare minimum, just like go back
and add a sentence. It's not yeah, it's fine, it's good. Yeah.

(25:16):
Now the holes on his head that used to hold
eyes stared through. Ellen written on his forehead and blue
ink was one word terrorista. She held back the urge
to vomit. Why hold that back? Sentence? Man, Yeah, this sentence,
she turned away, thinking it was a genius move. She concluded,

(25:37):
so offensive that there would have to be some response
from the Texas government. A crime directed not at the
national government, that at an individual claimed by the Mexican
government to be a criminal. Wow, that's was one sentence.
It played directly to Davis's soft spot abandonment. He'd wanted
to retaliate, he'd wanted to push across the border into Warez,
and Prescott would want no part of it. Not while

(25:58):
he was trying to woo the president of Mexico to
endorse his job creation plan, and not while he had
the whole entire world unifying around him. Yeah, it might
be bad to invade Mexico in a time like that.
Oh my god, I just got what Ben's doing. So
this book we have another nine eleven, and after the
actual nine eleven, George Bush immediately invaded Afghanistan and started

(26:21):
agitating to invade Iraq and playing the part of Iraq
and Afghanistan in this book is Mexico. Bush was right
to invade a country that had nothing to do with
the terrorist attack, and Bubba Davis is right to invade Mexico,
which also had nothing to do with the terrorist attack. Yeah, excellent,

(26:42):
I love it. Good stuff. Yeah. So Bubba calls Ellen
and he's like, this is America, not Afghanistan. This ship
can't happen at along my border. It's America's border, Bubba.
But America won't do ship to protect it. They failed.
Now it's my turn. She took a deep breath, Governor,
She said, you do this and you could be looking
at open conflict with Press Scott this time. No more
play acting, no more excuses. You think he's going to

(27:03):
send his boys down here to shoot at our boys
over us killing some drug dealers. I don't know, but
neither do you. Everybody on Earth has called the president's bluff,
said Davis. Everybody. He's caved every time. What would make
this time different? You, she answered, he hates you. That
won't make his cohne is any bigger. Girl, he laughed. Girl, Yeah,
this is this is how people talk. Yeah, yeah, I'm

(27:26):
looking forward to seeing some dead criminals for a change.
And the line goes dead, and then Ellen quotes Caesar,
you know, and says ali Ayakta s stuff, which well,
I think it should be s, but I'm not an
expert on Latin, which means like, it's what Caesar said
when he crossed the Rubicon. Because Ben Shapiro only knows
about classical history and only the parts of classical history

(27:47):
that are dramatic and stuff. Yeah, okay, the hero moments
where the hero of history Julius Caesar, destroys the democracy. Actually,
so yeah, I get why Ben, yeah is on board. Okay,
So next we have a solo Dad chapter. So that's yeah,

(28:09):
Soli Dad, if you'll remember, is uh the only woman
of color in the story and also a terrorist, but
a good terrorist that's been like yeah, yeah, So she's
hanging out with a bunch of her militia guys, one
of whom the black man who is there to tell
her that everything that she's doing is good. Uh, and

(28:30):
make Ben not seem racist, because look, there's a black
man in the book, Ezekiel uh is hanging out with
her and a bunch of guns, and one of Solidad's
men is like, we need to talk. Sola Dad nodded.
The men filed out of the living room into the outdoors.
Ezekiel nodded at her. You need anything, holler, I'll be outside,
he said. Aiden, who's the other guy, collapsed into a
broken down sofa, breathing hard, and then he leaned forward,

(28:53):
staring at Sola Dad. We need to go to Detroit,
he said, And in fairness, every time I've gone to
Detroit it did start with an emotional converse station. Yeah.
So uh yeah. She laughs at this because they're supposed
to be staying off grid and hiding. But Aiden's like,
Ricky needs my help. Ricky is the cop who shot
the dead eyed black boy. Um, and I guess he's

(29:15):
a friend of Solo Odds, one of her militiamen. Um. Yeah,
so Aiden informs us that those pieces of ship, which
I think are Black Lives Matter activists, just took over
the detention center. Um, and so yeah, he's worried. Okay,
so Aiden's worried that the cop who killed the dead
eyed black boy is going to get murdered by the
BLM activists who took over the detention center where he's

(29:36):
being held. Okay, all right, Okay, that's good. That's at
least relatively succinct. Okay, it's pretty racist, but succinct. Oh yeah,
I mean it's it's clear. I'm not confused. Yeah. They
sat listening to the commercials for carpet cleaner and gold then,
which is accurate for Fox News, So I guess that's fair.

(29:56):
Then the news came back on a newscaster speaking in
somber tones. Is voice cut by static interference. The protesters
gathered outside the detention center, chanting that they want their
own trial. So it doesn't look like we're missing any
words there. There's just in the middle of there, because
Ben doesn't even know how to write end static Like
the sentence is complete, it has in the middle. Yeah, yeah,

(30:19):
they're static in the middle of it. But the sentence
that we get is the protesters gathered outside the detention center,
chanting that they want their own trial. That's pretty I
don't know, we're not missing much there. Weird choice anyway,
Aden switches the radio off. He calls it an old
fashioned lynch mob because they're black people. Uh, and white

(30:40):
people are the victims of racism. Yeah, they're not going
home without a head on a pike. Uh. Cool. And
apparently sol It ads like, why do you care about
this guy? And he's like with ruins. He saved my
life once, so now you want to return the favor.
He nodded. But this isn't just about you anymore, she said,
I've got forty guys out there who abandoned everything they
had to come out here and try to be left alone.

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You want me to put them in the middle of
a ship storm. The storm is coming to you. They're distracted,
but leave us alone for how long? Aidan grimaced. I'll
bet Ricky thought they'd leave him alone, that he was
doing the right thing when he shot that black boy.
Oh my god, the dead eyed black child. Yeah, good lord.
H Aidan then thanks Sola Dad for giving her a

(31:22):
real something he'd been missing, a reason to fight. Uh.
So that's good, that's great. Yeah, it's just a bad book. Uh,
it's just yeah, it's just a bad book. Okay, So
she thinks. She goes through a little long dark Teatime
of the Soul for a paragraph or so, and then
she decides to head out at nightfall to Detroit. And

(31:44):
then they're in Detroit, arrived in the evening, a chain
of cars and motorcycles taking refuge in the abandoned Michigan
Central Station, the old rail depot for the city. Uh
that the Aiden guides them through because I guess he
knows Detroit everything is decayed. Uh and bulling. Um. And yeah,
they hold up in an abandoned building and make it

(32:04):
their their their HQ. There's homeless drunks uh still around
the place. Um, because yeah, that's all of all of Detroit. Um.
Yeah that's good. So um yeah, oh, we get a
little rant about ben Shapira. For for years, the city
had tried to rehabilitate the building. It had been bought, rebought,
bought again. It considered bonds, taxpayer subsidies, anything to get

(32:26):
the building restored. Nobody had bothered Detroit was a disaster area.
Investing money in the city would be a massive waste.
Aidan had grown up in Detroit. He had said he
knew the city well. His grandfather worked for General Motors,
had a union job that was supposed to keep himployed
all his life. Then foreign cars began flooding the American market,
and the auto union contracts meant that American car companies
couldn't compete. Jobs started fleeing. As they did, the government

(32:48):
of the city decided to raise taxes dramatically, and the
people who still held jobs and the companies that still
decided to stay in town, they left to mayor. After
mayor took off, his promising to bring business back then
pandered by crushing businesses that remained. The act space disappeared.
So that's how Ben Shapiro thinks Detroit wound up where
it wound up. Cool. Yeah, that's it. Is this like

(33:09):
a segment from his podcast. Yeah. He also notes that
white families moved out to the suburbs, Black families couldn't
afford the follow the city self segregated. Okay, it's as
simple as that they decided to Okay, a masterful understanding.
It's interesting with reality. Yeah, it's interesting what's happening here

(33:32):
because he starts off by saying that, like Detroit is hopeless,
and like it can't be fixed. And then the only
plight that's worth focusing on are like the this white
kid whose dad lost his job and who yeah, like
that's that's fun. Uh And yeah, this continues because Aidan
and Ricky meet in Detroit and they think they're the
only two white kids in town, and so they become

(33:53):
best friends. Um, their parents went to church together, They
fought back bullies together. Rickie was the straight arrow, Aidan
the but juvenile delinquent, eager and ready to do anything
to make friends. Uh yeah, so two white boys against
the uh bad black kids of Detroit. That's Aiden and
Ricky the cop who shoots that little boy to death.
That's good? That good good the good. Yeah, good was

(34:16):
the word I was gonna use to I was like,
what's the what's the right word for this? Ben would
know good? Yeah, Okay, So yeah they become friends. But
then Aiden is a juvenile delinquent and they grow apart.
One day, Aiden's mother saw Ricky and church asked him
if he'd seen Aiden. Ricky lied to cover for him. Aiden,
he'd said, was probably at the library. Then hands gripped

(34:36):
into fists. Still wearing his Sunday suit, he went looking
for Aidan. He found him in a Rundown tract house,
surrounded by a couple of dropouts, high on weed and
drunk off his ass. Aiden. Ricky said, your mom's looking
for you. She missed you at church. One of the
losers laughed, Yeah, mama's boy, your mom is looking for you.
Shut up. Aiden slurred to him, Yeah, we'll tell her
I'm out here. I'm not gonna do that. I'd said

(34:58):
i'd come and get you. Aiden laughed, high pitched wine
that eventually tapered off into a snort. Well you tried, boy, scout.
Now get back home to your mama. Ricky grabbed him
by the scruff of his t shirt. Get your ass home, Aiden,
or what Aiden sneered or this, Ricky punched him in
the face. Aiden went down like a load of brick. Wow.
So it's interesting because we're getting Aiden's backstory here, but

(35:19):
it's not being posted as him having a conversation with
Solidad and telling her what happened. We're just reading this
as if it's another like we've just to twenty years
in the past. Is another scene without any sort of break.
It's not like he's not remembering, Like we're not starting
this chapter on Aiden and him like having remembering been written.
He's not describing and he's not telling the story. It's

(35:41):
just a series of paragraphs that describes the scene. He's
such a dogshit writer. I think, I seriously do not
think anybody edited this book. No, they did not, would
have been like, this is not how you write a book.
Then did he self publish it? No? The publishing company
is um, it's not great. It's it's no. And it

(36:03):
reads one of those things where like it's like I'll
kind of pay you if you like publicists for me. Yeah,
we're all I'm gonna. I want to. I've wanted to
look into the publishing company for a long time because
it is very clear that like, yeah, first first, this
is first draft ship. Can we have a moment for
how good? Thank you? So wonderful? So this quick? I'm sorry,

(36:28):
I can't. Yeah, this is such a terrible scene. It's
it's horrible. And what's funny also is that what happens
here isn't even all that dramatic because like Ricky punches
him and then Aiden never gets high again. Uh, and
he becomes a fed Uh Yeah, he's with the a
T F right this is a a a low grade

(36:49):
uh misrepresentation of something that was kind of similar that
barely didn't maybe kind of happened to Ben or somebody
he knew. I think it's just something Been assumes happens
to take him back. It's like this, like yo, like
this is this is what? Yeah, the tell there is
that within the book because it's not aiden telling the story.

(37:13):
It's the author telling this story referring to that person
as a one of the losers. That's all you need
to know. Yeah, yeah, it's very insightful and it's it's
interesting because this is clearly what Ben thinks drug addiction is,
as opposed to he's actually what he's actually described as
a kid smoking weed and drinking in a house, which

(37:36):
is not an evidence of a serious problem. Most people
in this country have something like that happen when their teens,
and it's generally fine. Like if you want to have this,
be like, haven't get into heroin or some ship, have
fucking ricky, like find him oh ding and turn him
over and stop him from choking on his own puke.
At least make it a life or death situation. If

(37:58):
this guy's going to say he saved my life. No,
he got high on weed. He got high on weed
that one time and then got punched. One of the
losers punched him. No, no, no, that was Ricky. His
friend punched him. Because that's how heroes. Heroes make solve
all their problems with violence. That's what makes them heroes.
But I'm sorry, Beta, Sorry, sorry once again. Yeah, okay,

(38:24):
so that's why Aidan, the guy that we barely know,
wants to save Ricky, the guy who shot that dead
eyed black child, thinks it's disgusting and uncivil to punch Nazis.
I bet he does, but not your pot spoken friends,
not if it helps him become FEDS. Um. Yeah, so okay.

(38:47):
They go through like a plan. They talk about like
how the fucking detention centers laid out and yeah, okay,
so here's Aidan again. So here's the plan. We have
to wait until the right time. We're not interested in
taking out the police. They're armed, and they're scared, and
armed and scared are just as likely to shoot us
as anybody else. Bens on the virgins just dancing right
around it, isn't he? That is why people are angry.

(39:09):
Ben get there, just get there, man? Uh? Instead we
need chaos for the cover. Every riot has led by
a few key characters been the riot nowhere. Everybody that
they look like they're ready for war, but most of
them to show their friends that they're brave. The authorities
know that, so their chief task is to arrest the
rabble rousers and let the rest sort of fade away.
If that happens, we'll never get Officer of Sullivan out
of there. I guarantee you that whoever is leading this

(39:31):
thing is smart and capable. This is not amateur our.
Oh so it's we're getting into Ben's like the all if.
It's like riots and protests are like nefariously organized because
people couldn't spontaneously, you know, form up in large numbers
and confront and out maneuver the police without having like
a leadership cast. Yeah, it's funny because an article dropped

(39:54):
last week where like revealing, like so the Department of
Home and Secured in the FBI were spying on Portland
protesters during the protests and riots this summer, and we're
like desperately trying to figure out who the leaders were
and the exact like the exact like wording in the
report was something along the lines of all we wound
up with was a list of who was canceling who
on Twitter. It's very funny, beautiful. Yeah, it's the best

(40:23):
thing that's ever happened. I have never been so happy
reading a story that Yeah, yeah, it fucking ruled. Um. Yeah,
Ben knows riots, absolutely knows him a riot, Ben Riot, Shapiroya. Okay,
So one of them in the back pipes up, why
don't we just grab him off the street when he's released,

(40:44):
and Ezekiel, who's again the only black guy in this group, gafaws.
Have you seen us? We stick out like a KKK
rally and Harlem, no chance they don't find us and
at least neutralizes. No, here's what we're gonna do. Oh wait,
and then he doesn't tell us what he's going to
do instead of Aiden, The next paragraph is so after
Ezekiel says here's what we're gonna do, Aiden takes out
a garbage bag and pulls uniforms from it. Then he

(41:06):
tosses to Sola, Dad and three of the other men
who stepped forward to put them on. Now for the
rest of you guys, I've got something really special. Doesn't
even tell them anything, just throws out uniforms and men
start putting them on. Ben is a real bad writer.
I mean everything, everything that he has a character say
is like a cliche. I'm not thinking sure of the

(41:27):
right word, but it's like an overused phrase, like a
sentence structure that's like so obvious and overused. It's not like, yeah,
it's not Cliches necessarily will stand out like a KKK
member in Harlem. Well, and it's also, of course it
had to be the black guy who said that, because
he would think of Harlem, um like right like. And

(41:49):
it's it's also that he says, here's the plan, and
then nobody explains the plan, and instead another character takes
out a garbage bag full of uniforms and everybody understands
it um. And the chapter ends with Aidan opening a
duffel bag with T shirts in it, and we don't
know what's on the T shirts, but everybody's jaw drops
and Solidad chuckles, Well, you've got to die sometimes. So

(42:11):
I'm guessing my guess is that something racist is on
them to draw attention and create a giant fight or
something so that they can sneak in and free Ricky.
That'd be my guess kind of like kind of like
the start of the third die Hard movie. Actually, yeah, yeah,
that's an arbor Day movie. Okay, you're quicker than me, Cody.

(42:31):
Our next chapter is a lev On chapter. I think
we have to take a break. Oh yeah, yeah, I
guess we should. You just took the words out of
my mouth. I'm sorry, I apologize, welcome, I'm appreciative. I'm
appreciative too, and you know who's most appreciatives the products

(42:54):
and services that support this pod cast was gonna discast.
I was so happy. All right, we're back and it's
time for some mother fucking leave One, who is again

(43:18):
the black crack dealing Osama bin Laden of the story basically,
although there's also another Osama bin Laden who's basically Osama
bin Laden but named mom. There's a lot of a
lot of Obama's Yeah absolutely not. Oh okay, so when
we open, he's sleeping with uh oh wait, no, okay, sorry,

(43:40):
I'll just I'll just start this for two days. Leave
On stood in the cold. He had his men bring
him food and clothing. He slept on the sidewalk. Next
to him slept the mother of Kendrick Malone, the little
kid that Ricky killed with them slept hundreds of others.
Every day, local businesses shipped out supplies for the group,
eager to be seen as caring for the plight of
the righteous protesters. And still they didn't release Ricky Osla.
And perhaps they thought that the crowd would dissipate. Perhaps

(44:02):
they were waiting for federal intervention. Intervention that wouldn't come.
The President had already declared that this was a local matter,
and the resources of the state had already been redirected
to the disaster area in New York City. There would
be no cavalry, and so they waited. Each day, members
of the media crowded around leaf On to hear his words.
But each day the number of media dwindled, the attention
span of the nation ran shorter and shorter these days. Well, yeah,

(44:23):
there's just been a giant terrorist attack and the governor
of Texas is invading Mexico. So I guess people occupying
a detention center might not be the top story in
the nation at the time. Yeah, fair enough. So what
newspapers they have access to in there? Yeah, So leave

(44:43):
On decides that the time has come for action because
the media is not paying attention anymore, but action required provocation.
So far, the authorities had been smart. They had hold up,
put nobody on the street, waited for the ire to
burn itself out, you know, like we saw the cops
do this year. Oh yeah, They hadn't at any statements
other than to praise the peacefulness of the protesters and
suggest their sympathies for the protesters cause. Okay, So yeah,

(45:07):
then knows how the cops work. That's how they would
handle an occupation of a detention center. Jesus. Okay, So
Big Jim is offering to negotiate the uh yeah, negotiate
the stalemate. He said that Levin could become a player
by accepting the verdict demanding change from the Feds and
being granted an informal say in the appointment of officials
up to and including police officers. He said that Levin

(45:29):
should just let O'Sullivan go show that he was the
bigger man. Already, Big Jim had gone on national television
urging the President to send more federal officials to talk
about the future. Um the nation's eyes had been riveted
on Detroit, But with the Big Jim's in premature of legitimacy,
the Detroit. Federal solution was gradually drawing the steam out
of the kettle. La la, okay, just just just boring ship.

(45:50):
And then they arrived, like a blessing from the skies.
They came. There weren't many of them, but they were
enough white men, writing motorcycles, planting themselves in the midst
of the newly minted tent city, and they wore t
shirt fight the thugs. That okay, so he's got right
wing vigilantes showing up to a BLM protest. Ben did
predict one that got the media's attention, but oddly enough,

(46:10):
few of the men wanted to talk to the media.
That part's not accurate. One in particular bowed his head
anytime the cameras came near Levin, denounced them for the cameras.
Who are these white supremacists coming into a city white
racism is ruined and accusing us of racism for standing
up for our human rights, but secretly thanked God for
bringing them. It kept the fight alive at least for
another day. Okay, so become the Big Jim craft. Oh,

(46:32):
we switched fewpoint characters. So we've got Big Jim and
he's penning an up ed for the Wall Street Journal
and hanging out in his house and stuff. Uh to do?
The next step in Detroit, Big Jim knew would be
to give leave on an option for withdrawal with some grace.
He'd already pressed lev On, and he knew Levan was waiting,
hoping for something big to happen, but that seemed unlikely.
With the nation's attention riveted elsewhere, Big Jim climbs out

(46:55):
of the shower. God, this is yes, this is just
a random interlude with Big Jim. Here, wait a second. Uh.
Suddenly he felt out of breath. He plunged forward, grabbing
the sync with both hands, but he could feel the
strengthen those hands weakening. He tried to push his fingertips
into the marble. They wouldn't give. For some reason, a
desperate need to hold himself up rushed over him, and
as he felt his bulk dragging towards the cool floor,

(47:15):
away from the fog the mirror, he had the odd
thought that the floor was red. Then he realized it
was red and slippery with his blood. He lost his grip.
His face hit the uzing puddle hard. He never saw
the man who fired the second round into his head.
Oh so he's geting. He gets shot to death ship.
I'm guessing that was leave On. Um, yeah, that seems right.
Uh so yeah, now we're back to leave On after

(47:37):
killing Big Jim. Uh. And he's looking at the T
shirt gang. So I guess that's the shirts that said
they said fight the thugs. Uh. Because ben Ben wasn't
even courageous enough to make the shirts really racist as
like a direct promocation again like the die hard thing. Um, okay, yeah,
fight the thing A delicate dance. Yeah, so we wind

(48:02):
up with a big belly. Oh Jesus Christ. Okay. There
were eight of them. All to four had their hogs
planted in the corners of the street, ready to move
off at the first sign of trouble. Three of the
other four planted themselves near the front of the crowd.
Neither steps to the detention center. The lone remaining man,
a white, bearded, big bellied bear in his mid sixties,

(48:23):
stood the crowd. Yeah I think so, like like a
A group of young protesters screamed obscenities at him. He
stood his ground placidly. A buzz built at the back
of the crowd, more white men, all wearing the same
shirts pulled up on motorcycles saying nothing. The Credit protesters
moved on them, expecting a confrontation. That's when Levin's phone
rang and he gets the news that Big Jim is dead,

(48:43):
and he screams out, they killed Big Jim to the cameras, Uh, yeah,
they killed Big Jim. Tear it down, all down, tear
down this corrupt system. Um, and I guess everybody uh
starts to go fucking nuts. Yeah, yeah, it's riot time yet, Shapiro. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Teenager with a tire iron grabs the white dude's beard

(49:07):
and pulls him to the ground from his beard and
then beats him with a tire iron in the belly.
Um and a bunch of other guys try to break
into the detention center, screaming, give us O'Sullivan, Um, give
us the child murderer. Cut off the beginning of that video. Yeah,
it sounds like he did. That, sounds like this is

(49:28):
VERI yeah, no, no, But the right wing guys would
just standing there placidly like they always do, the placid
bear of a man who, if this were a reality,
would have had like bear mace canisters in both hands.
Think I do think ben is a writer that uses

(49:48):
the thesaurus. Search on Google is just like, what's an
word for calm placid? That sounds good. I'm a writer
behind Leave on the Street exploded them a writer, m
dash a man who writes things. Comma writing is what

(50:09):
I do? Period, he wrote, he wrote writing late behind
lev on the Street exploded into chaos, protesters and writers
merging into one throng. That's a weird way to say that.
The bearded white bear had disappeared into the center of
the crowd, his body trampled, kicked, stump, spit on. Hundreds
of people gathered in a circle to watch, to participate.

(50:30):
At the outskirts of the riot, motorcycles rev their engine,
fending off rocks and bottles. One of pulls out a
handgun and fires it into the air, scattering the crowd
near him, but drawing a few slat of debris from
all quarters. YadA, YadA, YadA. Levan gets handed a crowbar
and he starts beating the windows of the detention center
and he breaks in, but the room's empty, and he

(50:51):
has a bunch of his men come in and they're
all trying to find O'Sullivan. Uh oh, and now we
have another viewpoints which the attention officer unlocked the cell
holding Ricky o soul then and it creaked back on
its hinges. Oh. Sullivan backed up quickly into the corner,
his bulk filling it. You leave me alone, he said
to the masked woman in a police uniform. She wore
a bandana over her face and her gun was pointed
at the head of the detention officer. Follow me, Sola

(51:12):
Dad said, okay, so they're just in the solo. Dad's
gotten in there. We don't need to here, they just
it just happened, guys there. Yeah. She also threatens to
murder Ricky if he doesn't come with her, which is
odd for a rescue um. Yeah, and then she tells
him that the crowd wants to hurt him after threatening
to kill him. Uh okay, Oh wait, no, she's she's

(51:35):
saying that the crowd will kill you if you don't
come with me. Okay, I guess that makes more questions.
You have been just wrote it badly shocking. Yeah. Yeah.
Uh so she and Ricky take off and they get
out just ahead of the rioters. So we have a
viewpoint switched to Sola Dad and Ricky in the middle
of Levan's chapter. Oh, and then we're back to Aiden,

(51:57):
so we have another viewpoints switched to Aiden, then Levan
in the present of the past in the president. I
don't think we're hearing about his past. Aiden's waiting for
them in a garage with a swat van. We don't
seem to know how he got the squad van. M yeah,
Soladad pounded on the barrier to the van's driver's compartment. Go,
she screamed, Go, let's get the hell out of here,

(52:18):
not without Ezekiel. Aiden replied, what, He's not here, He'll
be here any moment. Now. Two of Leban's men had
reached the van. One began slamming on Aiden's window while
the other tried to pry open the back of the van.
Hold on, Aiden shouted, throwing the van in reverse. The
man at the back of the van screeched his head
banged against the iron of the door. Sola Dad felt
sick to her stomach at the bump as the wheels
hit him, but Aiden kept backing up until there were

(52:40):
just a few inches of room between the rear doors
and the elevator next to the stairwell. Ezekiel's coming Aiden said,
any second. Now, the man at the driver's table. Okay,
So the guy pounding on the window cracks it. Aiden
pulls out a twenty two caliber handgun, rolls down the
window slightly and fired. The bullet hit the man in
the shoulder, knocking him to the ground. Which that's like

(53:01):
the smallest possible handgun generally, like that twenty two is
like the smallest of the bullets. Yeah, which is not
to say that it can't kill people. But it's interesting
that this bullet knocks a man to the ground. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
a presumably a large thug, another bear of a man.
We have we have we have to we have to assume,
we have to assume. Okay, So the elevator doors open

(53:23):
after this, and Ezekiel's they're sitting on the floor, his
mouth open, breaking hard blood ran down the side of
his police uniform. Sola Dad leapt out of the back doors,
grabbed him by the arms. Stay with me, Ezekiel, We're
almost out, almost free. He grunted through another arm over
her shoulder. Oh, Sullivan grabbed him by the collar and
hoisted him into the van. Uh duh, So yeah, they
confront He has to gun the engine and drive through. Uh,

(53:47):
people with handguns who are threatening him. Shots are fired,
but they don't hit anybody. Um, dadda yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda. Okay,
let's get through this boring action. Uh, boring. Yeah, it's
really boring action. Um okay, Yeah, they get out, they escape. Great.

(54:07):
Uh and now we're back to Oh we do finally
get back to leave on. Um, so he's here's about
O'Sullivan's escape. The street fights are have died down that
we were being told the police had fled the detention center. Uh,
there's bodies in the street bleeding. It looked like a
war zone. He turned to face the reporter, the camera
directly in his face. She'd asked him a question before

(54:29):
he found out O'Sullivan was gone. He'd completely forgotten it.
What did you ask? He murmured, What comes next? She asked,
The mayor is vowing to keep order. Levin looked out
over his burning city, his burning city. We don't need
the mayor to keep order. He's just as corrupt as
the rest. We're in a war now. You saw them
out there on their motorcycles with their racist T shirts.
White supremacist killed Reverend Jim Crawford tonight. No pretty words

(54:49):
are going to bring him back. So here's what American
needs to know. Detroit is now in our hands. We
will have justice, and it starts with the mayor, but
that's not where it ends. We want to work with
the police officers who will serve justice. If they weren't,
we'll have our own forces of justice. Brothers will not
burn down brothers businesses. There will be no looting, no violence.
That's not what Big Jim would have wanted. We're going
to build something new in this city, something better. On
these ashes. Wherever Ricky O'Sullivan is, we'll bring him back

(55:10):
to justice too. This is the beginning of a new era.
The blood you see here tonight that will be repaid
in freedom. So tonight I call for the people in
my city to join me. It's time to rise up
and claim our freedom. In the distance, the sun began
to rise. So I guess we went through a whole
night already. Um Son began to rise. Yeah, Okay, we're
at the end of part three, the end of now

(55:32):
you know, we're into part two. Now we're in part three,
the end of the beginning. Oh God, is that the
name of that. Yeah, I think this is a Brett
Hawthorne chapter. Okay, Okay, we'll go a little further. We
gotta we gotta talk to Brett. Okay at the beginning. Yeah,
So it starts with Brett getting a phone call from

(55:53):
his friend Hassan, who's again his Muslim friend who he
went to school with, who worked for the FBI to
inform on other slams, but then stopped working with the
FBI when White Obama decided that Muslim terrorists were fine
just to catch everybody out Obama. Um okay, so uh yeah.

(56:14):
Hassan calls him uh and is worried and tells him
to get over quickly. Clearly, something is bad has happened.
So Brett picks up his service weapon and slid it
in the small of his back, because all professional gun
users know that holsters are not worth using for you
gotta put him in a cool place, Robert Light in
the back of your pants. Yeah yeah, Uh. Closing the

(56:39):
door to the hotel room, he glanced down the hall stealthily.
What you glance stealthily all the time, Cody. I don't
know why nobody who wasn't drunk or having an affair
would be coming down the hall at two am, he figured,
but better to be paranoid than blithe. Sure enough, a

(57:00):
buzz cut man in a black suit waiting at the
elevator Federal, thought Brett. There was only one reason for
him to be waiting. The President wanted to see General
Brett Hawthorne. And there was only one reason the President
would want to see General Brett Hawthorne to stop his investigation.
I like the Federal. Uh yeah, so I guess they

(57:21):
they had both met at some point previously that I
don't think we saw. Um yeah. And Brett doesn't want
to have another meeting with the president. Um yeah. He's
the last thing Mark Prescott wanted. Brett figured was bad
publicity right after a terror attack. Islamophobia in the top ranks.

(57:43):
That's how the headlines in the nation would read, and
Prescott read the nation. The man in the black suit
locked eyes with Brett began walking towards him. After years
of writing the bureaucratic Bowl, Brett had one key rule.
Better to ask forgiveness than to seek permission, which is
why he was relieved to see a door at the
stairs and the other end of the hallway. Unfortunately, he
was on the second floor. So he turns back and

(58:05):
he uh takes the stairs half the flight at a time,
his knees throbbing behind him. He hears the door slam
open and the man's voice, he's running. We'll grab him
in the lobby. Brett had no such intention. So we
don't know why these guys are chasing him. Really, but
I can take him. Yeah, Brett knows how to run.
He's great at running. And he gets onto the street

(58:25):
without the Feds catching him. Yeah. So he makes his
way to where Hassan lives, which is a neighborhood nobody
wants to walk at at night. Um. Yeah, well he's black,
of course, he lives in a bad neighborhood. Jesus come. Yeah,
he lives in an old building refurbished with cheap appliances

(58:47):
and cheaper flooring. Uh so that's great. They self segregated, Robert,
that's Ben's favorite kind of uh god. Um okay. So
Hassan gives him a thumb drive h and shows it
to Brett. Uh, and I assume it opened quickly. Hassan

(59:08):
slid it a thumb drive loaded onto his laptop, set
the machine on the coffee table for Brett. Do you
know this man? And then a video file popped up.
It showed a young slim Muslim man wearing jeans and
a long sleeve shirt. YadA YadA. Uh do you recognize him,
Brett does. It's Mohammed um and he asks Hassan how
he found it. Um oh, okay, I guess Hassan has

(59:30):
backdoor access to most of the security cameras in New
York mosques. What. Yeah, that's how we got this picture.
Here's the development. Yeah. No, it took him years, that's all.
He says. He's got it. He has all the security
camera footage. Um. So yeah, the footage is four days old.
It's too oh god, Um, it was taken four days ago.

(59:53):
Hassan anticipated Brett's disappointment. I know, too long. But finding
a man named Mohammed in a Moscow, New York is
like finding a Jew named Goldstein in a synagogue here. Yeah,
there is. Uh So the guy that Mohammed's talking to
is under FBI surveillance. Uh. We talk about this new
terrorist who's been introduced for a little while, and I

(01:00:15):
don't care. Uh. Yeah, apparently this other terrorist has given
opening prayers that the New York Stock exchange. Uh. So
that's great, Um, because prominent Muslims are all tied to terrorism.
I forgot about that. Yeah, sorry, I forgot. So Brett
travels to the house of this m mom who's been

(01:00:37):
hanging out with the terrorist. Uh. The m mom actually
lived on a rural compound off the road. In the dark,
Brett missed the turn off twice. The gravel clanked off
the underside of the cheap Toyota Hassan had borrowed from
a friend. The woods showed black against the early glimmers
of rising sun. Blah blah blah blah. So it's daytime. Um,
there's prayers going on. Uh. He shows up at the

(01:00:58):
m mom's house end is told that the office doesn't
open until nine am. He says, tell him, the teacher
sent me the mention of a Shami's nickname, who I
guess is the terrorist mastermind that we heard about earlier. Okay,
so obviously they don't respond to a random white dude
who's clearly military walking up and saying that he was
sent by a terrorist. Uh they say that name. Yeah, Um,

(01:01:22):
But the mom's like, that's all right, I know this man.
And he shows up and he he invites Brett in
um An Jammari Hassan had told Brett before Brett left
for Jersey was no one to be trifled with. He'd
been rumored to have deep connections to various Middle East
based charities with their own connections to major terror groups.
He fronted for a variety of Islamic human rights organizations

(01:01:43):
dedicated to fighting Islamophobia, and it was in that guy's
that he'd become a go to face for Prescott. Okay,
so this guy is fighting Islamophobia, and obviously all organizations
that are fighting Islamophobia are fronts for terrorists. That's that's
what's been right here. That's until logical conclusion. Yeah for
Ben Okay, this is fun. The very next sentence states

(01:02:11):
that the Prescott tenure had seen several small, lone wolf
attacks each time Prescott had cited on Maria's evidence that
the moderate Muslim community was alive and well in the
United States. It's fun to note that of the way
in the book is the first time we learned that
the US has been beset by lone wolf Islamic terrorist
attacks during this president's administration. Um, yeah, this is three, Yeah,

(01:02:33):
part three. We are more than two thirds of the
way through the book. We're almost three quarters of the
way through the book. Um, yeah, context, But yeah, he's so.
This guy is a well established media personality. He's a
moderate Muslim, but he also criticizes Israel, which should be
another hint that he's secretly a terrorist. Um yeah, so,

(01:02:57):
so said the mom. What can I do for you,
General Hawthorne. I'm so glad you made it back to
us in one piece. Allah must have protected you from harm. Indeed,
he must have said Brett, I come here seeking your
advice and help and let Yet you mentioned the teacher.
Why would you think I know such a monster? No reason,
Brett said carefully, But I am looking for a man,
and I think that, given your prominence, he might approach you.
I'm approached by many Muslims, I am blessed by Allah

(01:03:18):
and having a wide following in a grand platform. How
would I know the man you seek? His name is Mohammed,
Brett explained. Just am astounded by this man writing everybody
else's religions and racial experiences, etcetera, etcetera. Yeah, it's it's great.
So the mom says, he doesn't know this seventeen year

(01:03:41):
old named Mohammed Um okay uh, and Brett doesn't believe him.
Are you implying that I'm lying to you? Know? Said Brett.
I'm flat out telling you that you're lying. I know
you know such a man. So either you can continue
spatting this line of bullshit and I can have you
detained in question, or you can tell me the truth.
Omari laughed out loud. No, I don't think you have
that sort of pull. General. You may be a hot

(01:04:02):
shot with a particular segment of the population, but as
you say, I am somewhat well connected. Gentlemen, please come in.
The door behind Brett opened and came the federal agent
from the hotel, his face impassive, and other black suit
clad fed stood next to him. Brett pushed himself to
his feet and mom, I believe we'll be talking again.
Omari stood as well, looked Brett in the I no,

(01:04:22):
I don't believe we will. Let's there we go. Yeah, okay,
So the FEDS, the FEDS, and this guy who's an
anti islamophobia Muslim terrorists are all in bed together because
the President likes this terrorist because he's a moderate Muslim,

(01:04:43):
and I, yeah, there you go. It's good. Ben Shapiro,
Shin Bapiro. Alright, well I think that's gonna do us
for for for this week's episode. Yeah, the way in
our next chapter is another prescott it. Yeah, we got
ten percent more through it. It's dense. It's a dense one. Well,

(01:05:06):
it's all those commas. They take up a lot of space.
I am excited because, Yeah, this next chapter starts with
Brett Hawthorne and the President having a conversation. Um, oh boy,
I think this is gonna be a good one. Yeah,
I think this is gonna be a real good one. Um.
How many of you you think we have left one
to Jesus? Probably probably three or four? Right, Okay, we've

(01:05:31):
got on set one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,
eight more chapters including uh well we have actually I
guess uh six more named chapters and then the end
of the beginning and epilogue, and we haven't about the author.
You know what, I might sneak ahead to that right now,

(01:05:53):
spoilers what Yeah, well, there's about the author I want
to I want to know. Oh boy, howdy. So it
starts with like you know, he's an editor at large
at Breitbart News, the editor of Daily wire List, some
of the political books he wrote. Shapiro was also a
nationally syndicated columnists since age seventeen, a graduate of u

(01:06:14):
c l A and Harvard Law School, and the host
of the Morning Answer on kr l A It's seventy
in Los Angeles and Katie five ninety in Orange County.
Rush Limbaugh says Shapiro isn't just content to have people
be dazzled by his brilliance. He actually goes out and
confronts and tries to persuade, mobilize, motivate people. Glenn Beck
called Shapiro a warrior for conservatism against those who use

(01:06:34):
fear and intimidation to stifle honest debate. I've never known
him to back down from a fight, Sarah Palin says,
especially when he's wrong. He got a palm yeah. She
says that Americans should consider Ben's advice about how we
must stand up and push back twice as hard against
this bullying. Sean Hannity says to join Ben Shapiro and

(01:06:56):
fight back against liberal bullying. Michelle Malkin says Shapiro is
infused with the indomitable spirit of his friend and mentor
Andrew Breitbart. Even the liberal Washington Post in the aftermath
of Shapiro's devastating destruction of Pierce national Television. Oh my god,

(01:07:16):
this has a sentence been absolutely wrote. Even the liberal
Washington Post, in the aftermath of Shapiro's devastating destruction of
Pierce Morgan on National Television, conceded that Shapiro was a
foe of extraordinary polemical ability. It's got his thinking little
fingers all over it. Yeah, well, this way to write rogues.

(01:07:38):
Gallery of endorsements he's got there. He brutally destroyed Pierce Morgan,
the Liberal Washington I will say this, if he had
literally destroyed Pierce Morgan, I would be more positive towards
shape absolutely if he found his philactry. Yeah. Um, he's
referring to a debate he had with Pierce Morgan about guns. Yeah,

(01:08:02):
and uh, that conversation is the entire basis throughout his
other book, Uh ten or eleven, I forget ways to
beat the Left. It's like this his destruction of the
left book. How did he beat the leftist? Um he
used for his example of a leftist through the entire book.

(01:08:23):
Is Pierce morgana leftist? Yeah? He knows, he understands politics. Well, yeah,
I mean Pierce Morgan is definitely, like I would say,
the most prominent maoist in the country right now. You know,
very famous left wing voice Pierce Morgan, Piers Morgan, Piers
Morgan good friend of the current president. Yeah, and leftist

(01:08:45):
Piers Morgan. Well, I feel like the only thing to
say is head Babs, want to plug your plug? Yeah,
because I take a bullet for you. Yeah, this is
Robert's job. It's not our show, it's his show. No,
I want your pluggable, But Katie, you go, you go, no,

(01:09:09):
you shows. We've got a show called some More News
on YouTube check us out and Patreon, uh dot com,
slash some more News, our podcast called even more News.
We also co host another podcast called The Worst Yere Ever.
And I'm Dr Mr Cody on Twitter. Katie's Katie Stole. Yeah,
it's good job. Been Shapiro hero. Yeah, you can find

(01:09:35):
me nowhere at all, um, I've never heard of the internet.
I'm actually alone in a forest shrieking this. I'm just
channeling Been Shapiro's words and I don't know who I'm
talking to right now. So you're definitely calling them bib Yeah, yeah,
I mean I take a bullet for him. God, I
can't even say that without like starting to wretch a

(01:09:58):
little bit. I'd get even I answer for you, bag. Yeah,
I'd lay down in front of a combine for you,
babe and getting churned up into moach. Babe, do you
love me? Yeah? Sure? Why not? That's the episode. That's
the show. That's the episode.

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