Part Two: Hitler's Drug Problem

Robert is joined again by Carolina Barlow to continue to discuss Hitler, the Nazis and drugs

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
What's an ironically supporting the use of methamphetamine my giant
corporate podcast network. I'm not even gonna do. That was great,
no note, Thank you, Sophie, Thank you for taking legal

(00:23):
recountability for my actions, as you always do in all instances.
This is behind the Bastards podcast Bad People tell you
All about Him, Part two of our episode on Hitler,
the Nazis and Drugs. So my guest today is Carolina Barlow. Carolina,
you are a writer. You work on the Ron Burgundy
podcast with comedy person will you Comedy Famously Funny, Famously

(00:51):
Funny Piggles, providing the giggles, the chuckles, the yucks um.
And you also have a weekly podcast called True Romance
that comes out over Thursday. Light of My Life, True Romance. Now,
when we talk about true romance, what about the romance
of a young German woman being ordered by her doctor

(01:14):
to take math amphetamine so that she can produce more
soldiers to go die on the Eastern Front. What about
the romance? Is that? Is that not the truest romance
in a way, So that's not really what we were
going for when we started our shows much more. You know,
this is not a city references. Okay, stuff like that.
So your podcast is not about fueling the aust fronts

(01:35):
inexorable need for human cattle. You know, we talked about
that and we're let's go in another direction. Actually it
would be a bit late for that at this point.
One way or the other, no matter which side you
came in on it. Really your show is doing that.
So we are we are We are always trying to
convince people to go die in Russia. That is, that

(01:56):
is our main sponsor is the bone feels of kursk Um.
Add your bones to them today, what do you what
are you going to do with them? You're not using
your bones? Give him to kursk anyway, Yeah, Carolina, I
want to talk about Hitler's parts a little bit. Yes, yes, yes,

(02:17):
Hitler had a horrible part problem and this this is
ship problem. His enormous ships that couldn't be flushed. But
he told the entire world about and everyone was just like, yeah,
this is just a thing that's happening. God was so
good fishes and ship that was so funny pants all

(02:38):
the time. And if you look at close up allegedly,
i mean allegedly, what is easier to believe than the
fact that Trump ships his pants. I can't. I mean
the diaper, but the diaper bottom. Lots of rad people
ship their pants and don't do the bad things that

(03:00):
just like just like the pants, baby ship their pants,
and most babies do not attempt to stop the immigration
visas of interpreters um and and ban immigration from Majordan Nation.
It would be very hard for a baby to do
either of those six. Even if you were to invest

(03:23):
a baby with the powers of the presidency and change
the constitution to allow a baby to serve, a baby
would would have a very difficult time pushing either of those.
Even signing its name would be a tremendous effort. It
would be a whole thing. I kind of want to
see a TV show where you've got like a baby
and a bunch of fascists, and the babies the presidents.
They have to like connive ways to get the baby
to like do something recognizable as a signature. They're just

(03:46):
having to walk around and ink and stuff. That'd be
a fun show, giving the I think this is the
next installment of Boss Baby Boss Babies. He's the He's
unknowingly the figure ahead of a fascist movement. Damnity opened
the border. He crawled over the wrong paper. Yeah uh,

(04:11):
boss baby. So let's talk about Hitler's farts. Um. This
is an important subject because Hitler was one of the
most important people who ever lived, right. That's that I'm
just kind of objectively. We don't have to think that's
a pleasant fact for it to be real. Um. And
as a result of the fact that he had a horrible,
horrible gastro intestinal problem had an influence on the course
of world history. UM. As we talked about last episode.

(04:33):
Dr Morrell prescribed hitler Muda floor for his g I issues,
but he also gave him medication for his out of
control flatulence, which often led to unbearable gas pain in
some cases embarrassing farting during important meetings, sometimes with like
for like. This was a whole thing for Hitler all
the way up through his early career. Now, the specific
medication that Dr Morrell picked was Dr Kester's anti gas pills.

(04:58):
Hitler's flash lens does seem to have had at least
some psycho somatic element. He had particularly bad attacks of
cramps and gas during times of stress, meetings with important
foreign dignitaries or the eve of major assaults. So as
Hitler went from political brinksmanship to invading all of Europe,
his gas attacks grew more frequent and severe, and he
had to take more anti gas pills. Today there are

(05:18):
medications that help with gas, but Dr Kester's pills where
distinctively quack remedy. Most reputable doctors would not have prescribed
them because their active ingredient was atropa bella donna, which
included atropine and strict nine. So to stop as far
as he was taking strict nine pills every day, yeah,

(05:39):
it's softer way, Yeah, And there there's debate over there's
debate over whether or not it would have been possible
for him to take enough of a dose to have hurt,
because like the recommended dose of the pills, it was
too little Strict nine to have really done anything. But
he was also taking way more than the recommended dose.
I don't know that we have a We also don't
have a clear understanding of like how good was that

(06:01):
company's the sketchy company's control process, how much? How do
we know that he was actually only getting this much
or whatever we did. These are questions that will never
be answered, but we do know that he was taking
a shipload of Strict nine pills for years, and that
that may have had an impact. Yes, Strict nine is
a poison. It's a deadly poison in high enough doses,

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and it can cause severe discomfort and like a variety
of negative effects. It can also be kind of a
sedative and lower doses, although I wouldn't recommend it because
it's Strict nine. Um. But yeah, again, it's impossible to
like say exactly oh at this moment. The fact that
Hitler was taking strychnine all the time led to this decision. Um,

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But it is hard to imagine someone taking strict nine
and increasing quantities every day for years without they're big,
some kind of impact on him. Something, in the words
of Nancy Meyers, something's got to give. Okay, it didn't
help it. And again, there is a lot of stuff
being shoved into Hitler's body by Morrel, these Strict nine pills,
these weird hormones, these injections, drugs, you know, amphetamines, and

(07:05):
we'll talk about the other drugs later. We don't know
exactly what did what, but one thing everyone does agree on,
and this is universally agreed among scholars and physicians who
have reviewed Hitler's records is that his health declined rapidly
after and it all played a role in that, right,
I'm not it's probably too much to pick one thing.
That stress is also like he's losing a war for

(07:25):
most of that time, so that as an impact too,
but I think probably just after you like, it can't
feel boy, it doesn't feel great. No. Um. Now, it
is widely agreed that all of Hitler's like as I said,
so again we can't say, like how much of this
is on the drugs, how much of this is on
aging and stress. But as the war kicked off, Dr

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Morrell grew a lot more comfortable using Hitler as a
guinea pig. And you have to assume that has and
we'll talk specifically about that a bit. So in honest
of Hitler's operation, Barbarossa was well underway, conquering more and
more land more quickly, in capturing more enemy soldiers than
any other invasion force in history. The RMCHT had begun
to find find itself bogged down, though casualties were mounting,

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and as the winter approached, the Red Army prepared its
first of many counterattacks. At this moment, Hitler got sick
for the first time in years. He was too ill
to properly work. Dr Morel was summoned to the German
leader's side. He found Hitler bedridden and suffering from diarrhea
and fever. The probable diagnosis with diagnosis was was dysenterry.

(08:32):
Hitler ordered his doctor to fix him immediately, and again
Morell's main selling point is like, you feel better right away,
you know, because I'm shooting you full of caffeine or
maybe meth or whatever. You will help, you will. Yeah,
well that is the bit of a problem. But like
so dysenterry. I've had dysenter I've had dysentery that nearly
killed me in a village in the desert and rural India. Um,

(08:55):
there's no quick cure for dysenterry like yours, that is
to take something like cipro and just kind of like
not die. Yeah, but you're not. You're not getting better fast,
you know, I don't even think today we really can
not not once it gets going. Maybe if you're super
rich and you get immediately to I don't know, maybe

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there's something like yeah, it's not immediately available, And especially
at this point, there's nothing morel can do for Hitler really,
um So he tries, though, um so, because his first
shot was like vitamins, He's basically give him a shitload
of vitamin C and other vitamins to try to like
perk of his immune system. And obviously this doesn't do anything,

(09:37):
and so Morrell decided next to mix his normal vitamin
shot with a steroid glycan noorm which he made with
extracts of the heart, adrenal glands, liver, and pancreas of
farm animals. Yeah, he's shooting Hitler up with a lot
of random animal hormones, Like there's a whole for for years.
It's pretty cool. I have like the ambition of Dr

(09:58):
Frankenstein a little bit. Yeah, there's some again. Hormones are
also kind of new in terms of like our understanding
of them, like vitamins, So people are just like, yeah,
just filled people up with hormones seems like a good idea.
It's fun stuff. So while he was juicing Dear Fear up,
Morrel bent his needle in Hitler's arm, and to deal
with the pain of that, he gave his boss to

(10:20):
Lantern an opioid. Despite all of this, Hitler was still
sick and now enraged that his personal physician had failed.
Morrell wrote in his notes, fear very irritable. Have never
experienced such hostility to myself. He might not be such
a cool guy. Well, and again, Hitler loves Merril up
to this point because Morrell stru his drug dealer. Whether

(10:41):
the shots just caffeine or if there's amphetamine or like
or hormones which are powerfully mentally active, he's he's he's
doctor feel good. Yeah, yeah, he's doctor feel good and
he and it always works because drugs do work. That
is the fun thing about drugs. If you take a drug,
you may have to take more and more, but you
will continue to get high. It's kind of a thing.
The drugs do um. Whereas everyone else in Hitler's world

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at some point fails, generally repeatedly fails, and so he
has all these rages at people who don't do good
enough for him. But Morrel always comes in and makes
him feel good. And when he doesn't, it's you know,
most people don't like their drug dealers at the best
of times. I don't know. Maybe it's different now for
you kids and your your pot shops and stuff. But
my day, if you wanted to buy drugs, you had

(11:24):
to hang out with a dude you probably wouldn't have
hung out with if you were not buying drugs from them. Um,
not all. I definitely had some coolst drug dealers too,
But like, yeah, videos, Yeah, you're gonna sit around talking
about Alex Jones with a guy before he sells you
a vagaweed and some opium. Um, and that's not going
to be the funnest experience of your entire life. Um.

(11:45):
Sorry to my cool drug dealers that I had. Yeah,
any of my old drug dealers are listening, it's not you,
It's it's the game. You know, it's the game. And
it's the fact that you made me listen to Alex
Jones a bunch while you were measuring out. Anyway, whatever, um,
cute guy I saw in my drug dealer's house and
two thousand and nine I thought we shared a moment.

(12:07):
If you're out there, maybe this is too late for
a misconnection on Craig's List, but thinking of you, I
did date a couple of my drug dealers, and I
do recommend that Yeah, okay, you get cheap drugs, Yeah, yeah,
sometimes you get very expensive drugs depending on how you
measure expense, Yeah, like an emotional level. They can be
very very pricey, most expensive weed you ever buy sometimes,

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But anyway, money, I don't want to spend that much
time with um. People will laugh at anything. I don't
know drugs anyway. So Morrell, Hitler's drug dealer has just
like you know, failed to come up with the ship
for the first time. And Hitler doesn't want to hang

(12:50):
around and listen to Alex Jones if he's not going
to get a dime bag, you know, um, And Morrell's like,
don't text amount signal bro, you gotta hit me up
on signal um. So eventually Hitler did recover from the dysentery,
but the fact that his normally instant injections had not

(13:11):
provided quick relief rattle Dr Morrell. His ability to get
and stay rich was directly tied to Hitler's favor, and
hitler issue may not, as you may be surprised to learn,
kind of a fickle dude, kind of kind of easy
to fall out of Hitler's favor see The Night of
Long Knives and so, as Norman Older writes and blitzed

(13:31):
quote so that patient Aid didn't end up in the
sick bay again and fall behind. Morrel administered a harder
course of prophylactic injections and went on to prescribe more
and more remedies and every change in concentrations. He barely
made any diagnoses, but instead constantly added to his basic
medicinal treatment. This soon included such diverse substances as Tono
foss fan, a metabolic stimulant made by the company Hetched,

(13:54):
chiefly used nowadays in veterinary medicine, the hormone rich and
immune system boosting bodybuilding supplement most serin, a byproduct of
uterine blood, the sexual hormone testo vin to combat declining
libido in vitality, and orchacrin, a derivative of bulls testicles,
which is supposed to be a cure for depression. Another
substance has happened to be our sponsors. Yeah, we are

(14:16):
heavily sponsored by orchacrin. You're feeling sad, don't go to therapy.
Get a bulls testicles injected into your blood stream, and
I've got some stuff from my uterine blood for anyone
who's interested. There you go, that'll be a cure for you.
What was that a cure? Um? Libido and virility. There
you go. Oh wait, no, sorry, that was a bodybuilding

(14:37):
it'll it'll get get your buff. Yeah, well it's been
working to help me pump iron. That's it is iron
rich um, which is why people, ladies often need to
take iron pills um. So. Another substance used was called
prostacrinum um, which was made by from seminal vesticles and

(14:58):
the prostates of young bull ales. Even though he didn't
eat meat, Hitler surely could no longer be considered vegetarian.
From autumn ninety one onward, more and more highly concentrated
animal substances began to circulate in his blood stream. The
purpose of these supplements was to compensate for states of
psychological and physical exhaustion, or to prevent them in advance
by reinforcing the body's defenses. However, as a result of

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the constantly changing applications and the rising doses that followed,
Hitler's natural immune system was soon replaced by an artificial
protective shield. I don't know how scientifically accurate that last
bit is, but he's definitely on point about like what
Hitler was taking. And my god, it's again we don't know,
like what exact impact. But it can't have. It has
to have influenced. He's getting so much ship shot into

(15:42):
his bloodstream, ridiculous stuff. Two different kinds of bull testicle
shot into his blood, different kinds of animals, like a
lot of animals shot into him, a lot of animal
hormones like it's of course this has an influence on
the guys thinking like it would not yeah, to think
we've just outed him as not vegetarian. It feels like

(16:04):
now he could really get canceled, like these little cancel
culture finally comes for Hitler. We really just need to
get them this information and see how they really feel.
There's some guy with four eight eight tattooed on his
forehead hearing this and just starts weeping, sadly tears down
his Hitler poster. I'll never believe in anything again. So

(16:30):
one of the shortcomings of Blitz, and I don't even
know if this would have been possible, but it is.
It is a missing thing is that Older doesn't give
us a lot of scientific information about how all these
weird animal derivative substances would have impacted Hitler's body and mind.
And in fairness, there's probably not a lot of great
data on this stuff, because no one else would have
used it, or at least would have used it to
the extent that Morel did. So the guinea pig anymore, Yeah,

(16:52):
Hitler was the guinea pig. So it's like it is,
this is a missing aspect of the book. I don't
know that it's fair to critique Older for it, because like, yeah,
I don't know how many other people got this much
bowl testicle ejected into their bodies, like or this much
like uterine blood extract. Friend you have, has he invaded
Russia recently, he's thinking about he's thinking of that. Well,

(17:13):
he says, it's just the bull testical talking. Well, we
get one more person and then then we have a
trend which we can Yeah. Yeah, Hitler loved all this
stuff though, like again, whatever we could say about the
absolute effects and we just don't have a lot of data,
Hitler seemed to feel like it had a big impact
on him. He was mentally dependent on this stuff, So again,

(17:36):
some of it's probably purely psychosomatic, right, Like, he has
a couple of good experiences early on with Morrel and
he becomes kind of it's almost like a good luck
charm before big meeting, I need to get shot up.
Maybe most of it's like the caffeine as opposed, but like,
I don't know how much of it is is what.
But he's profoundly mentally dependent on this stuff, to the
point that you know, late in the war, when Hitler

(17:56):
is when von Staffenberg tries to blow him up with
the bomb. After that point, everyone who was close to
Hitler gets thoroughly searched by the s S. The only
person exempt was Dr Morrell in his medical back, which
is that gives you an idea of like how important
this guy was to Hitler. Later that year, Hitler and
Mussolini took a train ride together to the Eastern Front.

(18:17):
It was a te boys trip, right, You want to
be on that train, Hitler and Mussolini pounding shots, injecting
bull testicles into their thick, weird necks. Yeah. I feel
like in the early days, man, we would be like
hanging out, you know, annex and ship all the time. Like,

(18:38):
what's up, man, you evade Russian You don't have any
fucking time for me, you know. It's it's it's like
that for them. So it's a twenty four hour trip,
and obviously Hitler parts. Yeah, you do not want to
be in that train. Um. Mussolini probably too right. You
look at that guy's fucking face. That's a guy who's
you don't want to be in a train with. Um.

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But also Hitler can't stand that long without getting shot up, right.
He's again he's very dependent on whatever the funk Morrel
is putting into his veins. Um. And so periodically the
s S would stop the train and set up anti
aircraft defenses so that Dr Morrell could shoot Adolf Hitler
up with veteran airy steroids in calcium. I can imagine

(19:22):
Mussolin anything like the one time Muslin he was like
I don't know, and I don't know about this guys amazing.
It's like Kundalina yoga, Like it really sets me right.
That is the story of Mussolini, because Mussolini is a
lot always a much more stable man than Hitler ever was,
and a lot less of a true believer. Mussolini's a

(19:44):
guy of flexible political idea. He really just kind of
wants power. Um. And there's part of the Mussolini story
is like kind of belatedly realizing like, oh shit, I
should not have gotten involved this allying with Germany seemed
like a good call at a certain point. I did
not want all the trouble this is bringing my way.
I did not want war with all of these other countries.

(20:06):
Like why did I do this? And yeah, I'm sure
this train is. Hitler is getting shot up with veterinary
steroids and farting musil and he's like, God, damn it,
it's you know what this might be on me a
little bit, like you're my only friend, Like I chose you.
This is not an inspiring situation. I have a feeling
I'm going to get hung upside down by my own people,

(20:28):
beaten as like a pin YadA um text Winston Church
and he's just like, hey, what's up. You know I've
been missing you lately. I know there's been like a
lot of ship but maybe just talk. You want to talk?
Do you want to have like a no, Hitler, I'm
gonna talking to anybody. Shut up, Like stop it, go
take more veterinary steroids, come on growing a tail. Yeah.

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So the exact nature of what Hitler took did change
every day. MORELL kept a rotating stable. Eventually more than
a different hormone preparations mixed with steroids, nonsense medicine like
anti gas bills, traditional medicines and drugs and like amphetamines
and ship and we'll talk about other stuff that was
in there later. Older alleges that there was a psychological

(21:13):
importance behind the fact that Hitler's drug diet changed daily
and Menty avoided feeling dependent on any specific drug but
was instead dependent on Dr Morrel's overall care. This is
impossible to prove in like an objective way, but it
it makes sense. It's a logical leap, but it's one
that I don't think is an implausible one. It makes
like if I were doping Hitler, I would have done

(21:35):
the same thing, right, just knowing what I do about drugs, Like, yeah,
you don't want I'm to get too dependent on any
one thing. Also, it won't work as well if they
get too dependents. So like, okay, we'll do the opiates
and then we'll take a couple of days and we'll
give you some caffeine in the next day. We'll give
you a little bit of like speed the next day,
and then you know you kind of you cycle, right,
Like that's the that's that's that's the best way to
do this. If you're doing, and I think I think

(21:57):
Owlder's leap there is is a pretty intelligent one. Now,
while the Fear was growing ever more dependent on a
bizarre cocktail of steroids and hormone extractions, the ther Mocht
itself dealt with the whole sweep of drug addiction. If
you've never been a functional addict, by which I mean
someone who relies on a specific drug is a performance
enhancer to help them in a task. There's other things.

(22:18):
People call it a functional lack. In this stance, I'm saying, like,
you're somebody who does a thing and you rely on
a drug to help you do that thing. So like
Lance Armstrong is yes, like Lance Armstrong, or like a
certain podcaster who may or may not be talking right now.
Let me give you an overview of how it works. First,
you're introduced to a new drug that hits just right.
And my guy, it's like falling in love. When you

(22:40):
discover a new substance that tickles your brain specifically in
a perfect way, it's one of the best feelings in
the world. The problem is, like new relationship energy, it
does not last. Um. So, first thing you fall in love,
you discovered all these situations in which this drug helps
you and makes things better. It makes life easier. But
gradually your body he gets used to it, it stops

(23:01):
hitting us hard. Sometimes the way that it changes works, right,
Like I haven't smoked pot in the years. I used
to for smoke pot every waking hour of every day,
and I have not in years because at some point,
probably as a result of the PTSD, it stopped. Like
I smoked it to work. I worked. The whole early
part of my career was built on it. Um. Again,
It's been a long time, long, long, long time since

(23:24):
I've smoked pot. But like when I did, it was
it was necessary, and then at a certain point I
wasn't able to work on it. So like that, then
that happens with a lot of different substance. It can
happen with everything, which is why you shouldn't do anything
every single day. Um, But that is kind of the way. No,
you should do lots of stuff. No, I mean like

(23:44):
people should do us in general. Yeah, like work, yes, absolutely,
like like like do less is my advice, less work,
more drugs, but don't switch them up. You know, take
acid one day, you know, then you take a little
bit of oxy then maybe you get drunk the next night,
then you smoke a bone the next day, and you
kind of cycle through it like that, and then you're

(24:06):
basically sober because you don't get addicted to anyone drug.
Nothing touches you anymore. Perfectly medically sound advice right there
from feels like you're winding up to an ad brick,
which you should be speaking of doing a lot of drugs.
You know what drugs you should do, the ultimate high,
the only real high capitalism, because baby spending money on

(24:29):
products and services that's high. You never get over that
ship and more absolutely, and there's no consequences whatsoever. No
one would ever claim that. For example, our addiction to
consumption and endless growth is in a lot of ways
very similar to how an opiate addiction works, where you
require greater and greater doses to have the same effect,

(24:52):
and eventually that can lead you to making miscalculations that
kills you, or in the case of a society, making
miscalculations about what is actually necessary that leads to the
death of the entire planet. It's not like that at all.
Here's some ads. We're back. Oh, so we just talked

(25:15):
about Hitler A bunch. We're gonna talk about Hitler some more,
but let's talk about the ver mock. How do you
feel about the r Moched Carolina A big r mocked stand. Um. Yeah,
you know me and my family, that's not really like
our story. But I'm curious on like how you feel.
I mean, you know, I'm a I'm a German military

(25:35):
history nerd. I find it fascinating. And one of the
problems when you're a German military history nerd is that
half of German military history nerds are cool people who
are interested for very good reasons because like all modern
military tactics are based off of the ship that the
German Imperial military and then the r Moched pioneered. Um,
and then there's Nazis. That's the other half of people

(25:56):
that stuff. Yeah, it's like, um, when you see people
collect World War Two memorabilia, Yes, it gets there's a
real Yeah, there's there's a line there. It seems like
you're only collecting one side. Yeah. But again and obviously

(26:16):
I I study the remarking part of what I study
about the Vermocht is the the outrageous amount of war
crimes they committed that we're out of proportion to to
really any other actor in that war. Um, you can
make some out. I mean on a per capita basis,
certainly out of out because like the Red Army in
the U. S. Army have plenty of atrocities they care
out in World War Two, But on a in terms

(26:36):
of a the amount of soldiers directly involved in crimes
against humanity to the RMACHED stay well, not alone, because
the Japanese Army exists but stands in pretty rarefied air,
you know. Um, and a big part of rmoched culture
was taken a shipload of meth. So yeah, I just
walked through a little bit about like what it's like

(26:57):
to be kind of a functional user of a drug, right, Um,
And if you are kind of using a drug to function,
it will eventually stop hitting his hard and the best
way to handle that is to take a break from it. Right.
If you find yourself just for coffee, right, I want
to guess most people listening to this are kind of
a functional addict of coffee or at least of caffeine.
Most people in Americans, Yes, so do I If you

(27:19):
find yourself being like Jesus, I actually I'm not feeling good.
I'm taking way too much of this stuff, like I'm
it's not making me feel good. One of the best
things you could do is take a few weeks off,
you know, let your tolerance reset so you don't need
as much UM, and then try to restart and get
by it a lower dose with a kind of a
more moderate use of You know, that's not easy, but
it's it is the good idea to do if you, like,

(27:40):
are concerned about your level of consumption of a substance.
So that's the way it works for everybody, and kind
of with every substance, any substance that you would be
using on a daily basis the only and that's a
doable thing. It's not easy, but it's doable. Now. The
problem is, if you're saying using methamphetamine to help you
fight for days without sleeping in order to anchor Europe,

(28:01):
you might find the process of adaptation of taking a
couple of weeks off a lot more difficult because you're
in the middle of a war zone. You know, it's
kind of a bad place to like deal with coming
off of a substance UM. And this is the situation
the Nazis eventually found themselves in um and I'm gonna
quote from time here. The invasion of Poland in September

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n served as the first real military test of the
drug in the field. Germany overran its eastern neighbor by October,
with a hundred thousand Polish soldiers killed in the attack.
The invasion introduced a new form of industrialized warfare Blitzkrieg.
This lightning war emphasized speed and surprise, catching the enemy
off guard by the unprecedented quickness of the mechanized attack
in advance. The weak link in the blitz Creek strategy

(28:42):
was the soldiers, who were humans rather than of course, machines,
and as such suffered from fatigue. They required regular rest
in sleep, which of course slowed down the military progress.
That is where privitin came in. Part of the speed
of the Blitzkreeg literally came from speed. As medical historian
Peter Steinkamp put it, blitz Creek was guided by meth amphetamine.
If not to say that blitz Creeg was founded on methamphetamine.

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Now meth being meth soldiers quickly began reporting side effects.
There were heart attacks and other problems in the field.
The consequences, though were not nearly severe enough to outweigh
the value meth provided, but Reich health fewer. Leo Conti
did grow worried about the long term impact of such
drug abuse upon the flower of german Man And he's like,
all of our young men are taking meth all of
the time. This might not be good for our He's

(29:28):
also like, listen, they're doing a lot of other stuff too,
But like, I don't want this to ruin their futures.
I don't want this to ruin yea. As they're as
they're rounding up Jewish people and committing masters, like, well,
I don't want this to hurt their ability to get
a job something. Okay, Yeah. So and at this point
in time, most of the atrocities the Nazis would commit
had not yet been committed. Um, but they're getting it started.

(29:50):
They do a lot in Poland. They do a lot
of atrocities in Poland, and they're on meth for those atrocities.
Which is not to say that they're committing those atrocities
because of meth, but meth does make it a lot
easier to commit atrocities if you want, if you want
to get a lot of people to commit atrocities, without
sleeping for several days. Meta amphetaman is really your best bet,
you know. Or brown round. We could do some brown

(30:12):
round and record a podcast, Sophie, can we can? We
can we commit? Please listen. It's not going to help
you record a podcast, but it's gonna make it a
lot easier to record a podcast. Yeah, Sophie, I've got
all the gunpowder. All we need is the cocaine. You're
in l A. You can get it, okay, Well, alright, fine,
yeah they do. Saw it on average street corner here. Yeah. So.

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Leo Kanti grows concerned about the long term impact of
meth abuse on the health of German people. In late
nineteen and nineteen early inteen forties, Germany prepared to invade France,
he pushed for new regulations that insured prevented was only
available to citizens by prescription. So he makes it not
over the counter anymore for citizens not against Soldiers are

(30:55):
still getting issued this and of course the German people
largely ignored this dictate. You could find a doctor who
could get it to you. Factory workers, doctors, nurses, government beercrats,
everybody was on it like coma. Yeah, I have got comma,
give me my fucking meth. Uh. Timmler massively surged their production,
expanding to make more than eight hundred and thirty three
thousand tablets per day. Most soldiers received pills. During the

(31:17):
invasion of France, German servicemen to spense more than thirty
five million meth pills. That's some that's a good amount
of meth. That's like, that's like two and a half
Walter White's worth of methamphetas you know. Um. It was
also handed out in chocolate bars for pilots. Uh. And
for tank drivers you had, Yeah, you had Fliger chocolade
and Penzer Schokolade. So you had like tank chocolate and

(31:40):
fighter pilot chocolate. Um. And these were a little bit
more mellow. You didn't want to as kind of like
like hardcore a hit as you got with the pills
if you were like piloting a vehicle. Um. Oh that
makes sense. Cool cool, Yeah, I mean that's not that's
you know my motto, Sophie, only take half as much
meths if you're going to be pie letting an aircraft. Yeah,

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you do that often. It's good advice. It's good advice. Um.
I like the idea of a pilot announcing himself to
all his passengers. I mean, like, and you guys, I
have some chocolate for this trip. I got I gotta
cho I got me a chocolate bar. Y'all pulled onto
your hats. Yeah, it's gonna be rad um. So that said.

(32:26):
So again, everyone was using it, but it's primary use.
And the people taking the most meth where the infantry,
the people marching. Most of the German military advanced on
foot for all the like, for all of the the
attention that blitz Creed gets. Most of their soldiers are
not in vehicles. Most of them don't even have horses.
Most of them are fucking walking um, and there's a
lot of walking to do, and so they take a

(32:46):
funkload of meth to allow them to walk for days.
And then after you've walked for two days straight, you
might need to get into a gunfight, so you want
to be alert, so you want to take a funkload
of meth. Historian Shelby Stanton writes, quote, they dispensed it
to the line. Troops of their army had to march
on foot day and night. It was more important for
them to keep punching during the blitz creeg than to
get a good night's sleep. The whole damn army was

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hopped up. It was one of the secrets of blitz Creek.
When German tanks rolled around the magine O line and
began the mass encirclement of the French army, a few
key factors made their stunning victory possible. On an organizational level,
this was the concept of Alftrug's talk tak. This German
military concept vested an extreme degree of personal autonomy and
unit commanders. In other words, officers weren't expected to follow

(33:30):
orders and move them in into position. They were basically
instead of being said, okay, I want you to do this,
and I want you to move your men here and
take this objective, then move here and take this, they
were said, I need you to be in this location
honor before this time, and kind of up to you
to figure out like how to get your men there
and whatnot. So you have as like a company commander,
wa you have a lot of of discretion. And for

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young tank officers like Erwin Rommel, this meant driving for
days ahead of the German art They were competing with
all the other units and so they weren't like they
weren't being told be here this point. They were told like, basically,
go as far as you fucking can. Yeah, and they were,
and they were trying to beat each other too, and
they were They were advancing with a greater speed than
any army had ever advanced, because number one, for the

(34:12):
first time, these small units are kind of empowered to like,
if you can go further, go further, don't wait for
approval to advance again, just fucking do it if you
think you can make it. And also they're on a
ship fload of meth amphetamine, and so it's this mix
of macho pride right there, competing with each other to
see who can go the furthest fastest um and also
fucking meth um, which synergized together really well. If you've

(34:36):
ever seen a bunch of real dudes hopped up on math,
dudes hopped up on meth, like, that's the r macht um.
And they advanced further and faster than any army ever
had in the history of warfare. And this attitude sees
the very mooch from the top down. General Hinz Guderian,
leader of the invasion, told his tank drivers, I demand
that you go sleepless for at least three nights if

(34:58):
that should be necessary. And again, there's no way to
do that functionally, that funkload of speed. You know you're
not You're not going to be able to functionally operate
armored vehicles for three straight nights in a row if
you're not taking something right us soldiers, it was a
fedron and uh and rip fuel and ship, but like
it was still something you need something. Um. There were,

(35:20):
of course, consequences to all this rampant meth abuse from
time Quote. Some users report negative side effects of the
drug during the French invasion. These included a lieutenant colonel
with the Panzer Air SATs Division one who experienced heart
pains after taking Prevented four times daily for as many weeks,
the commander of the twelfth Tank Division who rushed to
a military hospital due to the heart attack he suffered
an hour after taking one pill, and several officers who

(35:43):
suffered heart attacks will off duty after taking Prevented. A
decent number of officers died from this stuff, Conti continued.
The right Health Officer continued to warn other high ranking
Nazis that there was a serious danger to the Volkes
health in early German newspapers quoted the BBC, who credited
the blitz Creek success to meth pills. They'd captured Luftwaffe
pilots over Berlin with preventing in their emergency bags. Stories

(36:07):
spread from occupied France of German soldiers taking meth before
visiting brothels and handing out love pills to the girls
later that year. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Nazis. I mean, Frances
famous for its brothels, and Nazis are famous for their
meth too. Great things that grow great together. It would
suck to get roofied, and it would suck to get

(36:27):
roofied with meth. Yeah, I don't know they're being ruthie
because meth is incredibly popular at this point. It's a
lot of them are probably just being like, hey, you
want to take some meth with me and fuck? And
that's I guess. If they're literally getting offered quote unquote
love pills, it's just um because they're not blacken out. Yeah, yeah,
I mean they're being paid to. I don't know, it's

(36:48):
it's it's a whole thing of all of the things
that Nazis do that are immoral. Paying sex workers doesn't
really hit yeah, um, that's it. I mean, obviously, I'm
sure I don't know who knows how many times they
like trick people into eating pans or chocolate that don't
know that there's methane it right, because they want to
get the girl opted. I'm sure that happens. I'm sure

(37:08):
some of them get dosed without consenting because their Nazis
also they're men like they're they're young men in a
like for anyway, it's it's just ship that you know,
it's happen. It's common with every single military does versions
of this throughout history. The Nazis are just the first
ones who have access to meth. By the summer of
nineteen forty one, well the Virmacht prepared for Operation Barbarossa

(37:30):
County succeeded in pushing an amendment to the opium Law
that heavily restricted prevented from German citizens. The military was
exempted from this. Of course, the Vermocht had to blitz
another creek and they weren't going to do it sober.
The use of prevented during the Russian invasion is not
well documented. This is because the records the Nazis kept
up that period were largely lost or destroyed when the

(37:51):
war went pear shaped for them. The Official Journal of
German Military Physician to Publish Physicians published articles in nineteen
nineteen forty three that included letters from medical officers reporting
that they had been ordered to dose their soldiers with prebitin.
The best information we have suggests that it was just
as common as it had been in France. In fact,
military doctors found new uses for the drug. They mixed

(38:14):
it with morphine, creating crude speedballs in order to increase
the analgesic effect on wounded soldiers. You got shot, give
them some methanopium, like, give him a speedball. Like I'm
frat making jungle juice. It's like everything you have in
your pockets into this pale. Most of the vermk stuff
was transported on horseback, and the army found that giving

(38:36):
horses meth allowed them to work a lot harder and faster,
so their method up the horses. Why am I annoyed
by this so much? Like you said, they're doing like
so much worse ship, But I'm like, you just leave
the horses out of it. Why are you giving meth
to the horses? Guy, guys, guys, Nazis. You guys are

(38:57):
really really living up to the name right now, Yeah,
I feel like you all might not have everyone's best
interests at heart. Um so yeah, now again, so they
find a lot of new uses, and especially in the
early days because the German the advances in early Barbarosa
are just unprecedented, I think still unequaled in the history

(39:19):
of warfare in terms of like the length of time,
the number of there's there's single battles where they take
six hundred thousand prisoners like in a day or like
or so a fighting like they they've got they've encircled
and just captured, like the population of Portland, Oregon. Like
it's this massive, massive And part of how it's possible
is they don't have to sleep for days because they're
on a funklet of mess. Now, if you've never taken

(39:41):
stimulants for days in order to drive or otherwise travel
long distances, I'll explain how it works. The first two
or three days are great. If you're young and healthy.
You can just take a nap after like forty seventy
two hours and then go hard for like another forty
eight hours, and you're gonna suffer minimal consequences. I say minimal,
but what I mean is that the damage you're do
into your body and mind won't be immediately obvious, especially

(40:02):
since listening to Alex Jones while pounding benz Adrien and
driving through the desert can be a lot of fun
when you're allegedly nineteen. Now after a few days less
if you're older, the speed stops working as well. You
may still be awake technically, but you won't be alert.
You'll be jittery, you'll start to hallucinate, you'll suffer heart palpitations.
You may not want to eat, which will will of

(40:23):
course make you crash even harder when the crash comes.
If you've been driving a bunch of mushrooms across the Southwest,
that's not such a big deal, because after you drive
a couple of days, you could stop and crash for
sixteen hours and your friends futon and you'll be fine.
German soldiers during Barbarossa didn't have a friend's futon to
crash on, and they weren't finishing up after a couple

(40:45):
of days. Again, they conquered Alex Jones, though they would have.
They would have liked Alex Jones. I mean not early
Alex Jones as much certainly today Alex Jones um so
German soldiers. During Barbarosa. Again, they had conquered more territory
more quickly than any army. At least tank units were
covering hundreds of miles in a space of days. The
problem with Russia, though, is that it's very big. There's

(41:07):
there's quite a lot of Russia, and the Russians just
kept retreating in France a few days of friends of
like they could they could go, let's let's none of
us sleep for like five days and we'll drive the
whole time, and we'll have conquered most of France and
like you know, we'll be well on our way to
winning this war. Um Russia didn't work that way because
there was so much of it left. So by the

(41:30):
time they reached the point where it's like, well, we
even on meth. We can't keep taking meth and not sleeping.
We're all crashing, We're not functional, we're hallucinating. We have
to stop and rest. Well, that point hit where they're
still in the fucking middle of Russian surrounded by enemies
who have not collapsed the way the French did, which
is a bad situation to be in. Right, meth turns

(41:50):
out to maybe not be the best way to conquer Russia, um,
whereas it apparently it is pretty good if you're if
you're trying to conquer France. Historically meth could help. I
wouldn't recommend it if you're trying to conquer Russia and
a really bad hangover, as being in the middle of Russia, Yeah,
attacked by Red Army partisan, Yeah, you do not want

(42:11):
to be a coming down from three a three day
meth bender under heavy fire. It's very much like it
looks to camera. I wonder, like you want to know
how I ended up here? Bet you're wondering why I
ended up here. And it's just a montage of somebody
taking a bunch of meth pills driving a tank. Real
fest like World War two. Yeah. Yeah, So after the

(42:31):
first several weeks of Barbarosa, they had no time to recover,
and they hadn't won a victory. German soldiers at the
wrong end of a meth bender found themselves exhausted, sick,
and surrounded by an enemy just waiting to counteract a
bunch of racked ass infantry whose eyesight was probably eight
percent hallucinations. Norman Older quotes one German military doctor at
the time who wrote, I didn't take preventing myself, or

(42:52):
at least not often, just wants to try it to
know what I was prescribing. I can tell you it worked.
It kept you awake mercilessly. We knew it was addictive
and that it had health side effects psychosis, nervous excitement,
a loss of strength, and in Russia it was a
war of attrition. Positional warfare in such circumstances, prevented was
no use. It just exhausted you. You eventually had to

(43:15):
catch up on the rest you'd missed. Sleep deprivation simply
didn't bring any tactical advantages anymore. So they just reached
the point where this is again something that people who
get addicted always learned. The ship that used to work
don't work no more. That's how fucking meth works for
the Nazis in Russia, goes great in Poland and France,
and then suddenly the worm, you know, worms turned Now

(43:36):
in late nineteen forty one, the Russians counterattacked, the Wehrmacht held,
but they suffered severe casualties, and more importantly, the fact
that the Red Army had failed to collapse and in
fact been able to counter attack, punctured the myth of
German and vulnerability. Then came the Russian winter, which the
Germans were not prepared for. I'm not going to read

(43:57):
like Merry Christmas married Chris, those motherfucker's this is our lives. Yeah, yeah,
I'm not going to relitigate the whole lost frontier, but
you know the gist of the story. The Russians used
their basically limited limitless manpower reserves to hurl attack after
attack against the Germans, eventually breaking through their lines and
encircling several armies. It was only when the tide turned

(44:19):
against Germany that prevented became useful again from blitzed. Often
the only thing that helped was prevented. One of many examples,
in the fishing village of the Zvod on the southern
shore of Lake Limit between Moscow and Liningrad, the Germans
were encircled, their lodgings set on fire, rations arriving only
sporadically from the ice cold air. One last tiny window
of escape was open, and five d exhausted men loaded

(44:42):
with heavy bags and machine guns over their shoulders began
a fourteen hour night march through waist deep snow. Soon
many men were, as the official Wehrmacht report has it,
in a state of extreme exhaustion. The snowfall had stopped
from around midnight and the sky was filled with stars.
Innervated soldiers wanted to lie down in the snow. In
spite of energetic pep talks there power could not be revived.
Such men were each given to permit and tablets after one.

(45:04):
After half an hour, the firstman confirmed they felt better.
If you're trying to retreat across Russia and need to
be able to march after not sleeping through the snow
in the dark. Math might help again. But by that
point you know the war had gone against them. But
you know what never goes against you. I'm trying to
think what you're coming up with here, because it can't

(45:26):
be capitalism. It's it's the products and services that support
this podcast. Always. They always have your back, always, always,
allegedly allegedly allegedly. All right, here's the ads. We're back.

(45:47):
All right, so we had some fun with the very
mocked Um. I want to I'll tell one last story
about this is about the German navy so very late
in the war, like I think the German you know,
their navy is not doing great. Nothing's really doing great
for the Germans, and they decide their best idea is
to create these suicide boats. They're basically torpedoes piloted by
a man that he can suicide bomb a worship with um.

(46:12):
And the idea was you would just seal a man
in there and he would just like go for days
until he found something to hit. And the best way
to do that was they gave him speedballs, like this
mix of meth amphetamine and opium on like basically methan oxy.
He was just like taking methan oxy trapped inside a
metal coffin underwater, like trying to find something to blow
himself up into. Yeah, it's pretty good. So as the

(46:34):
war in Russia bogged down and turned into a nightmare,
Hitler's physical health began to degrade rapidly. This may have
had something to do with his living conditions. For most
of the war, Hitler cloistered himself away in a dank,
mosquito filled complex in eastern Prussia known as the Wolf Slayer,
and basically everyone who isn't Hitler fucking hates it here

(46:55):
Um like it's a it's a miserable place. Um, it's cramped,
it's it's basically these like tomb like bunkers because so
they can't get bombed. They're like windowless. The area around
it is like filled with mosquitoes. You're in the middle
of nowhere. Um. It's just like everyone but Hitler pretty
much hates it. Hitler, though, has grown increasingly paranoid in irrational,

(47:18):
and so he likes the isolation. He likes being surrounded
by these like thick walls of concrete and like um
and this really worries the people close to him. During
this time, Joseph Gebbels wrote tragic that the fur is
closing himself off from life like this and leading such
a disproportionately unhealthy existence. He no longer gets any fresh air.
He doesn't take any kind of relaxation. He just sits

(47:40):
in his bunker the same music. It doesn't even like,
the same must hung out man wanted to watch. One
of the few people who had constant access to the
few was Theodore Morrell. Through the war, he would inject
more than eighty dif and substances mixed together and dozens

(48:01):
of different concoctions. Again, it's impossible to say how much
of Hitler's growing irrationality was due to the wild mix
of hormones and drugs Morrell pumped into him, but Hitler's
general's noticed a difference in his behavior. In mid nineteen
forty two, Field Marshal Eric von Manstein tried to convince
Hitler to alter his plans in the Southeastern Front, where
the dictator had diverted crucial forces from the main battlefield.

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As the Russians threatened to break through, critical decisions needed
to be made, and Hitler was the guy to make
them because he made himself commander in chief of the military.
Manstein wrote quote as before no full decisions are being made.
It is as if the fewer is not capable of it.
Norman Ohler suspects that Hitler's issue here stemmed apart from
the wild change in his life the war brought. Prior

(48:45):
to the invasions, Hitler addressed his people constantly he was
in some ways a drug for the German people because
being in a crowd like that, being hyped up. Look
at the Trump rallies, right, it is a drug going
to that. Having that kind of experience with the people
who do it, they get addicted to it, and the
person the demagogue gets addicted to it. Hitler was very
much addicted to the adulation of crowds. It affects your

(49:06):
brain in a way that's is psychochemically powerful. But when
the word and the bombing started, Hitler had to stop
putting himself in front of his people, and so he
suddenly loses access to this thing that he's really psychologically
addicted to. From blitzed, Hitler now missed those ecstasies that
his appearances had previously prompted, and which had always amounted
to a new injection of the pepped up feeling that

(49:27):
was so important to his self esteem. In his isolation,
all pleasure and energy previously received from the attention of
a cheering crowd had to be replaced by chemicals, further
cocooning the dictator. He was the person who eventually needed
artificial charging. In a sense Morel's drugs and medicines replaced
the old stimulus of mass ovations. The sounds like one
like a child actor doesn't become an actor, and then

(49:50):
it's yeah, yeah, Hitler. Hitler's having what we might call
them a coldie Culkin effect. There's a lot of similarities
between them. I'm joking, I'm being mean to McCauley Culkin,
who gave my friend a lap dance once. Um yeah,
on his birthday. It was very nice. Um yeah, I've
actually he seems to be a very nice guy. Very

(50:12):
little in common with Hitler other than that they were
both child stars, you know. And in fact, Hitler's original
version of Home Alone, some would say is even superior,
but heavily debated um. In late nineteen forty two, the
Russians broke through around Stalingrad, encircling the German sixth Army.

(50:33):
Hitler refused to allow them to break out and retreat,
as that would mean ending the siege of the city. Um.
He basically was like, if you guys really were not
really like me, you'll you'll, you'll find a way to
win somehow. Gering promised him that the Luftwaffe could would
be able to keep hundreds of thousands of been supplied
by the air which was a ridiculous promise. The US
does manage something like this in Berlin after the war,

(50:55):
the Berlin Airlift were like, there's this kind of conflict
with USSR and so like the chunk of Berlin we
have is kind of cut off. We can't refuel it
by car and they have to like drop in supplies. Um.
But it's just with with kind of the planes that
the Leftwaffe has UM, with the technology they have, there's
just no way to do it. Um. But Hitler believed

(51:16):
Garing um and wound up learning that Garing was just
a piece of ship and the liar um which surprise
they all were UM. So by December nine that had
become clear that Gering had no ability to keep the
sixth Army supplied. Hitler was very angry at this um
and Morrell noted that day that has suffered his patient
suffered from intestinal gases, halitosis, and discomfort by the ne

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The war was decidedly not fun anymore, and the bad
news increasingly outnumbered the good. Hitler asked his physician if
he might try a new medication, cardia is all, which
Garring had advised him to try for anxiety, since Hitler
had heart problems. Morrell thought this was a bad idea.
It was a blood thinner, I think, but older rights
he understood this as a call to action Hitler, and
he did something stronger to call him his nerves. The

(52:02):
eventual drug he picked was an opiate called Yuka do All,
which is basically oxy right like you all is kind
of the same thing as oxy, close enough for government work.
He first dozed Hitler with it on July eighteenth. Germany
had just sent the best of its elite troops and
tank forces into a massive battle with the Russians at
a place called Kursk. The battle ended with Russian victory

(52:23):
and over a million estimated casualties. It marked the last
significant defense of the Germans would make in the East. Like, yeah,
a single battle, um where there are more casualties than
in the US Civil War, Like curse is a nightmare.
And it's like, yeah, eight hundred thousand Russian, two hundred
thousand or so German and this is the last. This
is kind of like when the German armies stops being

(52:45):
capable of offensives in the East, is cursed. So obviously
not a good day for Hitler. He's kind of bummed
out about this, right, His favorite toy is broken. He's
gonna have to shoot himself in a bunker. You know,
we've all been there in our own ways. I wonder
what Gerbel's diary, and it was that day. Hitler sad. Yeah,
Hitler really right now, Yeah, he's oh, he has so

(53:06):
bombed out. He's kind of bringing us all down just
because he got a million men killed for nothing, well,
killed and wounded. Hitler was devastated by the defeat, and
his normal mix of hormones, steroid speed and vitamins was
not enough. From blitzed. Hitler saw all his hopes going
up in smoke, and because of the imminent betrayal of
the Italian army, we were about to surrender. He had
not slept a wink. As Morrell wrote, body tensed hard

(53:28):
as a board full of gases, very pale appearance, extremely
nervous tomorrow, very important discussion with I Duce that's Mussolini.
In the middle of the night, Morrell was dragged from
his bed by heinz Ling Hitler's valet. The Fewer was
bent double with pain and an immediate cure was required.
The white cheese he had had for dinner, as well
as the roulade with spinach and peas, had disagreed with him.

(53:50):
Morrell gave him an injection, but the basic medical treatment
didn't work. The doctor wondered feverishly what needed to be
done to combat the great attack in this precarious situation.
He knew it's something that worked, something that would numb
Hitler severe pain and keep him functioning. He needed an
ace up his sleeve, and in fact he did have something,
but its use was risky. For the second quarter of
nineteen forty three. In the bottom right corner of the

(54:11):
file card Patient A A Substances listed an underline several times,
you could all this is the point at which he
starts giving Hitler oxy. Hitler gets. Hitler gets like, you know,
small town America addicted at this point. Um, And as
you might guess from what happened to small town America
when oxy went rampant, it does not have a positive

(54:33):
impact on Hitler. It's not really good for anyone. Avoid
being addicted to oxy content would be my advice if
you're considering it. If you're on the line right now
being like, should I get addicted to oxy? No? We say,
we have a small opinion, but ours is now is no.
No as well, no oxy? Yeah, stick with meth healthy
meth amphetamine. Okay, So you could all had a massive

(54:56):
and immediate positive impact on Hitler. His mood improved, He
grew up to miss stick elated even, and he became
much easier to work with. People around him were like, Wow,
Hitler is a lot more pleasant when he's doped up.
I mean, I mean, if I had to hang out
with Hitler every day, you would want him to be high, right.
You don't want to deal with sober Hitler or Hitler
coming down like Jesus. Anything to the literally, give him

(55:21):
any of yeah, shoot him with grab some from a pig,
put it in him. Let's try it. Yeah, what other
animals we got? Find a monkey, see if monkey stuff
works in him. Um So, Morrell kept injecting the leader.
Sometimes he would mix stimulants earlier in the day with
opiates later in the day to calm him down. And

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from this point forward, Hitler was more or less constantly
on something generally you could all every other day and
particularly during key moments of decision. In his last meeting
with Mussolini, a U S. Secret Service report noted that
Hitler spoke for three hours without a break. Um so,
Ohler writes quote. Mussolini had actually planned to convince Hitler

(56:01):
that it would be better for everyone if Italy came
out of the war, but all he did was need
his painful back from time to time dab his forehead
with a handkerchief or side deeply. The door kept opening
to pass on new reports about the bombing of Rome,
which was happening at that very moment. Mussolini couldn't even
comment on this because Hitler was talking NonStop to a
room full of painfully embarrassed people about how no one

(56:22):
should doubt the imminent victory of the access powers. The
dejected duche was effectively talked into the ground by the
artificially pept up Fewer the result of the meeting Italy
would stick at it for the time being. Morrell felt vindicated.
He seemed to have maneuvered at high level politics with
his injections, and he noted self importantly fewer fitting well,
no complaints whatsoever. On the return flight, fearer declared in

(56:44):
the ober Salzburg in the evening that the success of
the day was to my credit. So Hitler's just fucking
racked and spun and talks for three out, won't even
let Mussolini say anything, and essentially like Mussolini's too like
awfully awkward yeah to just to try to pull out
of the war at this juncture. So that's cool, fun stuff.

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I mean, we've all hung out with the guy who
was that kind of high at a party, right, Yeah,
and we've always we've all stayed in a world war
at one point benefit and we're like, I just didn't
know what to say. Yeah, I wanted to pull my
forces out of the war before the Allies invaded. But
like it's the tale as oldest time party. You're like,

(57:27):
I don't want you to see me leave. You feel
like I left too early. Hard to irish goodbye from
a war exactly exactly good ship um so well, he
was shooting a constant stream of narcotics and animal extracts
into the veins of the mightiest warlord in history. Theodore

(57:48):
Morrell was also running an increasingly elaborate side hustle. Hitler
needed him so constantly that he could not run his
own private practice, but his connection to the leader allowed
him to steal a shipload of stuff. He was given
one of the largest cooking oil manufacturers in Czechoslovakia, which
had been stolen from its Jewish owners. He used the
factory to produce an anti louse powder of his own invention,

(58:10):
which did not work, but was mandatory for the Wehrmacht
because again dudes connected his big setter sell. His big
seller was Vita molten bars. These were an edible version
of the vitamin shots he distributed so freely. Morrel also
increasingly experimented with hormones derived from animal organs. When Ukraine
was conquered by the Nazis, he used his connections to

(58:30):
take possession of several slaughterhouses worth of fresh animal organs
and diverted scant Vermocht resources to ferrying these organs to
his factories so they could be turned into experimental hormone medications.
Now by three, the Reich Health Office had instituted a
ban on introducing new medicine into the German market. This
threatened Morrell's business, but he found a way to get
around it. Since Hitler was at this point deeply reliant

(58:53):
on the doctor, Morrell was allowed to experiment on Hitler
with different extractions and injections. He argued successfully that if
his drugs were safe for Hitler, they must be safe
for the German people. Morrell wrote this to the right
health office. The fewer has authorized me to do the
following if I bring out in TESTI remedy and then
apply it in the fewer's headquarters and apply it successfully,

(59:13):
then it can be applied elsewhere in Germany and no
longer needs authorization. It's a good add slogan. M Yeah,
if it's good for the fear, why can't you date it? Yeah? Yeah. Um.
As the war turned, other Nazis dealt with more anxiety
over their imminent doom, Morrell began handing out his medications
to the people closest to Hitler, including Ava Brown. She

(59:36):
noticed the impact Merrell's drugs had on her partner's mood,
and she wanted the same stuff. And Older suggests this
is because like she wanted to she wanted to function,
want to be intimate with her with her romantic partner,
and he was racked as hell all the time. She
was like, well, if we're going to be intimate, I
need to be on whatever he's on, right, Like, we
need to be on the same thing, otherwise it's going
to be impossible to connect, which I guess is understandable. Um,

(59:59):
and yeah, not ecstasy. It's like, yeah, it's it's it's well,
we'll talk about what it is. So Hitler was injected
with testosterone for his libido, and Brown was given medication
to suppress her menstruation. They were both given regular injected
speedballs mixes of uppers and downers by Morrel so that
they would be in the same headspace and stuff just

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given the best chance of being able to bone. Now,
from his first you Could All injection in nineteen forty
three to the end of nineteen forty four, Morrel it
noted administering you Could All at least twenty four times.
Older suggests the real number was much higher. And just
as with his meth, Morrell didn't always write out what
he was giving the fury. Sometimes, just like an injection
that included some of that, you know, you wouldn't know

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exactly what was in it. It would be fair to
critique Older for speculation here, But when you take in
the sheer quantity of injections Morrell gave Hitler, and the
variety of substances that flowed through his brain, and the
reports of people around him, I don't think he's unreasonable
and suggesting Hitler was taking and and you know there's
other evidence to the just he was taking a lot
of uk at all um So he makes his case,

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in part by noting reports from those close to Hitler
about the severity of his mood swings on critical days,
and this is probably most notable with D Day, which
is obviously pretty important day for a Hitler quote. Hitler's
mood on D Day, another nail in the coffin for
the Nazi state, was subject to severe fluctuations. At nine
in the morning, he is said to have bellowed across
the breakfast room. Is this the invasion or isn't it?

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When Morrell hurried over and gave him an injection of X,
he calmed down, suddenly appeared affable and lighthearted, enjoyed the
day and the fine weather, and clapped everyone he met
jovially on the shoulder. At the mid day, it's D Day,
It's d D Yeah. At the midday briefing, in spite
of the looming military disaster, to everyone's astonishment, he revealed

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a beaming face, and at the lunch that followed siminola
dumpling soup, mushrooms in a ring of rice, apt ful strudle,
he fell into one of his endless distracted monologues. This
time it was about elephants, which were the strongest animals
in existence and which, like him, abhorred meat. Next, Hitler
described in detail the horrors of a slaughter house he
visited an occupied Poland. Girls in rubber boots had weighted

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in blood up to their ankles. Meanwhile, Morel was preparing
his next injection, made from the glands of slaughtered animals.
I can't believe that Hitler is literally like reciting from
Jonathan Saffron Fower's eating animals, and like, at the same time, dude,
you know how strong elephants are. They don't eat meant,

(01:02:27):
they're just like me. I'm like an elephant. It is
a great co rant or I guess, yeah, oxy and
probably meth amphetamine. Like he's getting a bit of a
bit of a bit of b um. Yeah, it's pretty funny. Um,
it's pretty funny. And also that he's ranting about how
horrible the meat industry is well being shot up with

(01:02:47):
animal hormones that had been Yeah, the product of that industry. Um,
it's good stuff. It's good stuff. Of Course, Hitler had
always suffered from bizarre mood swings and from delusions, but
Ohler is right that people close fewer noted his mental degradation,
and again I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that
the constant doses of hormones and narcotics shot into a
fifty something year old man sped up this process. Late

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in the war, a Nazi named Klaus von Staffenberg tried
to kill Hitler with a briefcase bomb. It didn't take,
but it did blow out both of Hitler's ear drums.
An ear, nose and throat specialist was brought in, Dr
Irvin Geissing, and he was immediately horrified at the fewer's health.
And from geising we get our really interesting descriptions of
Hitler in this period of time. Quote. The face was pale,

(01:03:32):
slightly swollen, and there were large bags under both bloodshot eyes.
The eyes did not make the fascinating impressions so often
ascribed to them in the press. I was particularly struck
by the wrinkles from either side of the nose to
the outer corner of the mouth, and by the dry,
slightly cracked lips. His hair was already clearly mixed with
gray and rather unkimped. The face was well shaven, but

(01:03:53):
with but with somewhat withered skin, which I attribute to fatigue.
The speech was a naturally loud and tended towards a
shout and later became somewhat hoarse and aged, almost depleted,
an exhausted man who had to make do with what
was left of his strength. Hitler, it's like crying, yeah,

(01:04:13):
listening to the cure. Yeah. Hitler was clearly an ill man,
and when he met Morrell. When Dr Geesing met Morrell
and started to learn what was being given to the leader,
he was furious. And it's also from Geeszing that we
get some of our best information on how the doctor
conducted himself during this time. So this is Geesing writing
about Morrell giving Hitler his treatment. Quote. Morrell comes in distinctly,

(01:04:38):
short of breath and panting. He shakes only Hitler's hand
and asks asks agitatedly whether anything in particular happened during
the night. Hitler says no, he slept well and even
adjested the previous night's salad without any difficulty. Then, with
the help of Ling, he takes off his coat, sits
back in his armchair, and pulls up his left sleeve.
Morrell gives Hitler the injections. He pulls the needle out

(01:04:59):
again and wipes the punk true site with a handkerchief.
Then he leaves the room and goes into the office,
holding in his right hand that you syringed and in
the left empty am puels, one large and too small.
He goes with the ham pules into syringe into the
adjacent orderly's bathroom, rinses the syringe out himself, and destroys
the empty ampules by throwing them in the toilet. Then
he washes his hands, comes back into the office and

(01:05:20):
says goodbye to everyone present. That's Hitler Steeler right there,
just heading out, just heading out, and also like flushing
everything to make sure people can't like check it out,
analyze it, see what's in it. You know. Some of
that's probably because this is how he makes his money,
you know, keeping like you know, he's running a business.
He's selling versions of this stuff. Some of it's probably
because he doesn't want Hitler's other doctors to know what

(01:05:43):
the funk Hitler's being given, like the fact that he's, yeah,
the stuff that I've been doping up our leader, you know. Yeah.
And the two doctors quickly came to hate each other.
Obviously one of them, I mean there, we'll talk about it.
They're both a little bit sketchy, but morrel is obviously
much sketch year um. Dr Geesing, though was not straight

(01:06:03):
edge either. His preferred treatment for ear, nose and throat
medical stuff was cocaine. And so after this point he
administered coke to Hitler in the form of nose and
throat dabs more than yuh, this is what you've been missing.
You just needed a little bit of coke. That'll get
your Hitler going. That'll Hitler. You're right on up, buddy, um.

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And so after this point he administered cocaine to Hitler
more than fifty times over the next seventy five days.
He used an extremely strong ten percent solution and absolutely
got the German leader high as fuck. In fact, Hitler
was noted by his doctors having quote slight cocaine sniffed
during this period. So he's got the drip, He's like,
he's he's he's got the coke sniff going on. Yeah.

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He quickly took it for more than just ear problems,
telling Geesing after one dose, my mind is freed again
and I feel very well. Then, adding please don't turn
me into a cocaine addict, Geeseing assured him that realitics
snorted cocaine can't be an addict if you're dropping it
into your fucking eye. Bro, That's what I say. That's
how that's so. It keeps you from being addicted. You

(01:07:08):
just drop it into your fucking eye. You don't be
snarting it like an addict. That's gross. Like you, guys,
please don't if if you think this is a problem
of I'm like being an asshole, just tell me. Yeah,
just be honest. If you think I'm out of do
you think I'm out of control and you think I'm
doing too much coke, my coke dealer? No, bro, You're good,
You're beautiful bro um. Yeah. Now, Geeson was though a

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better doctor than Morrel, and he eventually grew unsettled by
the fact that he was essentially now the coke dealer,
if the absolute ruler of his country. He tried to
cut off Hitler's supply, and this did not go over well.
Hitler was like, I've got an important meeting. I can't
function because my ears hurt so bad. You have to
give me a shipload of cocaine. Um, And he was like, no,

(01:07:54):
I'm not going to give any more coke. Hitler said,
quote no doctor continuous before this morning. I have a
terrible robbing head that probably comes from the sniffing. Concerned
for the future and the continued existence of Germany are
consuming me more and more with each passing day. I
need the coke, man. I'm just so worried about Germany
doing because I love I'm doing coke for my love

(01:08:14):
of the fatherland. Like it's just about the fatherland, you know,
classic coke had excuse um soe Geesing refused though, like said, like, no,
I'm not going to give you any more fucking cocaine
and petulant Hitler refused to show up to his military
briefings that day and deal with the fact that his
army was collapsing. You don't give me coke. I'm not

(01:08:35):
going to make sure that I'm not gonna give the
army orders like fucking Hitler. I'm not gonna put on
pants if I don't have coke. Yeah, so Geesing eventually
was convinced to relent. I think the generals were like, dude,
we can't give orders without him, Like we're not allowed to.
You have to you have to do something, or you
have to give him his fucking coke. Um and so

(01:08:58):
uh He relented and he gave Hitler's some cocaine to
save the German Army, but he demanded that if he
was going to give Hitler the coke he had to
give Hitler had to allow him to give the fewer
a full medical checkout check up, which Geeseing did and
eventually came to suspect that the anti farting pills Morrell
had prescribed Hitler were causing some of the Feurer's health problems.
He attempted to use this to force the physician out

(01:09:20):
of Hitler's inner circle and perhaps even have him prosecuted.
And there were a lot of folks close to Hitler
who were worried about Morrell, who were like, this guy
is doping the leader up. It's not good for Hitler,
Like we gotta get this guy out of here, but
Hitler likes him too much um And they kind of
tried to back this effort to force Morrell out, but
it just didn't work, as Hitler's first and best drug dealer,

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Morrell was just dug in too tight. As the Red
Army closed in at the end of nineteen forty four,
Hitler and Morrell had both retreated into a bunker under Berlin.
Hitler by this point was jaundiced, as his liver had
started to fail and his Parkinson's was advanced enough that
he shook constantly. Morrell had to cancel several injections because
the fewer's veins had collapsed. Right, that's like advanced smack

(01:10:05):
addict stuff that like your veins aren't working anymore. It
was reported that like when he when he would get
an injection, it would crunch, like his veins were crunchy.
He was a advanced addict um at this stage. Um
so yeah. Still, though Morrell continued to shoot Hitler full
of opium and hormones as often as possible, it is

(01:10:26):
probable that these opiates contributed quite a lot to Hitler's
g I issues. They can cause constipation, and there was
using so frequently that he had significant issues with this.
Morrel's notes state that the German leader had regular painful
wind as his body fell apart. His guards in the
bunker wrote entries like this about Hitler's bodily functions. Quote

(01:10:46):
from four to from four until six four evacuations, two
of which were weaker and two very strong. At the
second after the passage of an obstruction explosive water evacuation.
The third and fourth were very foul smelling, and particularly
the four probably a decomposing agglomeration that had previously been
left behind and had become a cause of gases in
the formation of toxic substances, regularly improved condition and change

(01:11:09):
of facial expression. He only card called me to impart
the happy news of this effect, which is one of
the undertold stories of the last Nazis around. Hitler is
the third, right collapsed. We're just like standing there, like
listening to him ship his guts out, like recording how
bad it smelled. Which is I love that for Nazis.

(01:11:29):
Actually it's yeah, yeah, I love that for them. As
the Red Army closed in, Morrell finally lost his ability
to provide his boss with the drugs he by this
point badly needed again. Like there just was no ability
to get more of them, right, Germany's industrial base had
fucking collapsed, um And when Morrell ran out of drugs,
he and Hitler had a falling out. Hitler suddenly like

(01:11:51):
starts threatening to have him executed, and like it's like again,
as soon as he can't get the dope, Morrell is
out on his ass and yeah, yeah, yeah, he's he's
forced out of the bunker and he's successfully is like
one of the last people to flee Berlin. He does
get captured by the Allies, He's questioned turned for more

(01:12:12):
than a year, and he dies soon after the war,
impoverished and miserable. And of course we all know how
Hitler died. So how I'm just kidding. Good story, having
a good time. It's good stuff. It kind of is
like a Marvel movie. I would in a Marvel movie.
I would indie movie that came out where Paul Daniel

(01:12:34):
Daniel Radcliffe are dealing with a farting corpse on a beach.
It's like the marriage of those two. Yeah, I mean
that would be uh, that'd be a great Daniel Radcliffe
could be Hitler. Um, Paul Rudd could be Theodore Morrell.
James Gunn could direct. Um. Yeah, let's do it. Throw

(01:12:54):
iron Man in there too, for some reason? Why not?
Why not? Why not? All right? Well, Carolina, how you feeling.
I am feeling like the public and private school system
failed me by not addressing these issues, um and not
telling me these corners of history. And also I am
feeling drug free. I'm feeling inspired to stay drug free

(01:13:19):
for a while. And when I say drug free and
not just the normy stuff, but I feel like not
smoking meth is at this point an accomplishment. Yes, and
don't don't don't do meth. We were just I don't
think it would make me into a nath but you
know it doesn't. Know. You don't want to get too
much in the vent diagram with their behavior and just

(01:13:42):
meth being one thing that they did and makes it
all the less appealing. You will not become a Nazi
because you smoke meth. But if you're a Nazi and
you smoke meth, you'll become more of a Nazi. Yeah,
it's a general rule. If you start taking a shipload
of meth, the things about you that are already not great,
Like everybody has things about them that suck. And one
of the downsides of a drug like meth is that

(01:14:03):
it it makes everything about you bigger and more so.
And so the meth will whatever you don't like about yourself,
the meth will make me more of a thing about yourself,
and perhaps that's not something you want. And this was
brought to you by Nancy Reagan's Drug for America. Yes,
and the council for maybe tryoxy instead the drug with
no consequences oxy content. Don't look at the Midwest also

(01:14:26):
also no good stuff. Well, Carolina, you get any flogables
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This was the coolest podcast I've ever been able to
be on. Well, thank you so much for coming along
Carolina and talking with me about Hitler and meth and

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Hitler's horrible farts. It's it's just all been amory, a magical,
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