June 17, 2022 • 46 mins
We discuss the Dallas area church preaching the genocide of LGBTQ+ people from the pulpit.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hello, Welcome to it could happen here. This is part
two of I guess two part series about Dallas, Texas.
Finally we're getting in a Dallas, Texas resident to refute
some of this this slander. Sure, my, my, my flawless hometown.
Uh briefly host to Bernie Sanders when he had to
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take care of something. I've I've spent a few summers
in Dallas. I've I've been around it. Unfortunate, I've been
around the DFW area. I wouldn't recommend spending summers in Dallas.
Hold on, hold on, I wouldn't recommend spending winters in
Dallas either. There's a couple of weeks in spring that
it's tolerable to be in Dallas. Try to make it.
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Then it occurs to me that we should ask Garsey,
where were you when they killed JFK. I was, I'm Garrison,
I was. I was born in the twenty first century.
What have you ever ordered? A man liquor Carcano rifle
in the back of American Rifleman magazine. Okay, let's let's
open by by first briefly talking about the thirty one
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Dorky asked neo Nazis, who gotta rest in Idaho. We're
planning and you want to talk about it, That's right,
That is exactly why we've already done the episode. But
I'm always down to talk about this. I know we
just did an episode talking about it, but I wasn't
on that one. So I have a few paragraphs on
how it relates to today's topic of Christian fascist violence.
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I just want to state that you and I were
both hanging out at a party when we got the
news about that, and it is the hardest I have
ever seen you laugh for like four hours. So and hey,
like Patriot Fronts based on a Texas so that that
also there is a degree of relevance here, yes to
the bulk of our of our topic today. So yeah,
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I think it's pretty funny because the groups fashions all
dressed in the same outfit. It's almost incomprehensibly trade and sauna,
so they wouldn't pass out well crammed into a hot,
sweaty U haul truck driving from all around the country
to cord relate the Idaho so that they can march
around with flags and shields to yell at gay and transcits.
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And you know what they did Instead, they got filled
over and setain a ditch while getting their little cladhood
masks taken off, and spent the rest of a day
to Idaho jail. And I'll go talxed. It's really funny,
especially since again their best case scenario was spending a
day free in quarterlin Ida. I know, and it's so yeah, yeah, yeah,
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I'll be like, you can be against cops in the
carstral system while still recognizing how innately and hilarious superious,
like it's it's fine when cops and groups like Patriot
Front beef that's generally a win win for me. I'm
not cheering on police tactics. It's just it's just recognizing
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that one of my enemies temporarily making another of my
enemies life's harder is pretty funny. It's really funny. It's
it's the same reason that we don't condemn police violence
when a cop shoots another cop like exactly like like's
and like, based on these charges, I doubt any of
these guys, in particular, we'll go to prison for long
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enough to form like any like dangerous connections with other
incarcert and people. Well, I'm sure there's a couple of
dudes in there that if you know, they were to
go to a serious prison, could make meaningful inroads with
the Nazis there. But man, most of those dudes Area
Nations guys are just kind of like they're not going
to consider comrades like the the Yeah, it's yeah, I
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think I think the Patroon Front, Idaho situation seems like
it will mostly just be inconvenience and national embarrassment for them,
And I think time, I think we can we can
let this one just be as funny as it is,
considering there was thirty less Nazis there to intimidate and
attack people at pride Um and Patriot Front maybe now
less willing to pull stunts like this in the future. Yeah.
I've thought about this a lot, and I just can't
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see anyways in which what has happened could really be
a problem. Um, it seems to just purely be funny,
So just enjoy it. Yeah, look, look this this is
what happens when you appropriate lesbian culture. You get arrested. Actually,
not all that different from what Garrison was saying immediately
after the arrest, That is true. I made a lot
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of jokes about how Patriot Front looks pretty pretty gay
while getting handcuffed. Get the shine the cancel radar, get
the cancelometer out. We're canceling Garrison. Um. Anyway, let's let's
continue with this episode. So here is some other fun
facts about about the whole Idaho thing. So to a
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the Patriot Front members who were crammed into that U
haul last weekend. We're connected to a church helmed by
former Washington state Representative Matt Shay who's also associated with
the Bundees, the Oath Keepers and leads the church at
Planned Parenthood. Uh. He has advocated like civil war if
abortion and seem sex marriage aren't stopped, to kill all
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the men in left wing cities, all that good stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
And he was also present at the protesting cort alane
at the Pride event this past weekend. And we can
we can draw like this direct line from the surge
of groomer and anti drag propaganda to neo Nazis deciding
to organize and travel across straight lines to threaten people
in a Pride event in the days leading up to
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the event. Chaia right check the woman behind the Limbs
of TikTok account repeatedly highlighted it weaponizing pearl clutching Satanic panic.
In right Check's first post about the Pride event, it
was about how the Satanic Temple was promoting the event.
In an Adelite tweet by someone claiming to represent local Satanists.
On seventh, Lips of TikTok posted quote, family friendly drag
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dance party being promoted by the Satanic Temple in Idaho.
We are living in hell, which is a nice and
I slip un there that I can't quite tell if
that was intentional or unintentional about Satanic Temple and living
in hell. Anyway, I thought that was funny. Um Dave Riley,
a white supremacist who attended the deadly Unite the Right
rally and Charlottesville who also organized with Identity Europa a
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few years back. He he actively solicited lives of TikTok
to draw attention to the Pride event and sought her
help in trying to like get publicity for the protests
against it, quoting the SPLC hate Watch quote. The Idaho
Tribune also due attention to it. Idaho Tribune, far from
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a real newspaper, is to obscure junkan news publication that
on multiple occasions has promoted Riley's political activism. Anti racist
activists also tipped hate Watch off to infrastructural overlap between
a website that promotes Riley by name and Idaho Tribune.
Hey Watch reviewed the source code for Dave Riley's website
and the Idaho Tribune site and confirmed that the two
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sites share graphics from the same web hosting account, meaning
that they are likely controlled by the same person unquote.
And then on June nine, Lips of TikTok posted screenshots
taken from the Idaho Tribune about the Satanic temple and
the quarterly and Pride event, boosting content from that white
supremacist linked to website to her one point two million followers.
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Every single one of these figures using fascist rhetoric at
utilizing stochastic methods, including Chia Wright check, her financial backer
Seth Dylan, and people like Tucker Carlson are all responsible
for inciting events like this. Tucker led his show last
week by using a Nazi reference when referring to a
Pride event in Dallas in terms of stuff that's like
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outside of you know, conservative states like idahoor Texas. Late
last month, right Check as Lips of TikTok Target did
a Bay Area drag Queen storytime event, which is exactly
what it sounds like. It's drag queen's reading children's books
to kids in a public library. And then on June twelve,
it was stormed by a group of around ten men
dressed in proud boy attire and shirts that read kill
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your local pedophile. They threatened attendees while shouting homophobic and
transphobic slurs, terrifying a bunch of kids who had come
to hear queens read stories. So how did this kind
of stuff and like, how did this rhetoric spread so quickly?
Like how did this grumar stuff get so volatile so quickly?
Just in these just in these past few months, in
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our War on Transpeople episodes and my Operation Privateful episodes,
we discussed the history of this sort of like save
the children and like pedophile rhetoric. Uh. And in my
City of Hate episode earlier this week, we talked about
how this wave of homophobia was able to write off
the conspiracism of Pizza Gate and Q and on. And
then in this episode we're gonna talk about the types
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of places that this extreme bigotry was able to fester
this past decade and how it relates to Evangelical Christianity
and Christian fascism. I'm gonna play an audio clip from
a city council meeting in Arlington, Texas that happened on
May twenty five. Take a listen. My name is Jonathan Joey.
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I'm the pastor has been as Badness Church, and I'm
here today because I have church members that live in Arlington.
I live only a few miles away from here, and
I do business in Arlington on a weekly basis. I'm
horrified and ashamed that the city has assigned promote and
solicit pride in this city. Pride is nothing to be celebrated.
In fact, it's an abomination. The Bible says in Proverbs
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chapter eight, the fear of the Lord is to hate pride,
hate evil, pride and arrogancy and the evil way and
the throw word mouth do I hate? According to God,
we should hate pride, not celebrate it. We should humble ourselves,
as virtually the whole room said that we were a
nation under God in the American flag, and we were
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a state under God. If we're in the Texas flag,
we should humble ourselves. What the Bible says, and not
what the small minority here that doesn't bully would say.
In June of Mayor Jeff Williams officially announced the Steps
a Pride month in June for the city of Arleyton.
But I don't understand why we celebrate what used to
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be a crime not long ago. The fact, recording to
the Texas penal coach and sex respectful homosexual conduct, that
person commiss an offense and he engaged in deviated sexual
intercourse with another individual of the same sex. In fact,
that is still on the books today, even though Lawrence
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versus Texas overruled that in two thousand three. But God
has already ruled that murder adults, three witch graft rate,
beastiality of homosexualities are crimes worthy of capital punishment. Arlington,
just for context, is one of many towns in North
Dallas that if you happen to have wheed on you,
you're gonna want to tape it to the bottom of
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your balls before driving through Arlington. Thanks for that great,
great weed tip from You're welcome Garrison. So that is
Pastor Jonathan Shelley who lives in Grand Prairie, UM. He
was there at a at an Arlington, Texas City Council meeting,
casually advocating killing gay people while citing Texas is laws
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against homosexuality. Their church and this connected branch of Baptists
that will learn more about later, have an intense record
of preaching genocide against gay and trans people and also
a fair amount of anti Semitism. Big big shocker there.
The previous pastor at this church, which was called Steadfast
Baptist Church. UM. But the previous pastor who resigned in
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twenty nineteen due to allegations that he paid for sex workers,
was involved in gambling, and had smoked marijuana. I guess
he should have taped more of it to his balls.
Um to Nash, he carter national attention for celebrating the
Orlando Pulse gay nightclub massacre, which killed people. From the pulpit,
the pastor said that God should finish the job and
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referred to the murdered patrons as sodomites, perverts, and pedophiles.
The new pastor, John Shelley, continues this same strain of
preaching violence against gay people. Uh. This next clip is
from June one, right after someone died after getting hit
by a truck. At a Pride parade in Florida, which
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we later found out was a complete accident. But I
don't don't think the public knew that at the time. No,
and obviously people, I mean, I think all of our
assumptions was, oh god, you know this is the thing. Yeah, well,
here's the clip. If it's going beyond just saying you
do all this week and stuff, it's saying you enjoy it,
You enjoy murder, you enjoy malignity, you enjoy hating God. Look,
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there's only one group that enjoys that is the Pride
parades going up now Street. And you know it's great
when trucks accidentally go through those, you know, parades. I
think only one person died, so hopefully we can hope
for more in the future. You say, well, that's mean. Yeah,
but the Bible says that they're worthy of death. You say,
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are you sad when fags die? No, I think it's great.
I hope they all die. I would love it if
every fag would die right now. And you say, well,
I don't think that's what you really mean. That's exactly
what I mean. I really mean it. So yeah, it's
it's a poor drummer like that's June, even a year
before the big wave of groomer stuff got pushed this
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past spring with the help of Lives of TikTok, and
that kind of shows how susceptible modern conservatism was to
this resurgence of in your face homophobia. There's been people
to working to like keep it here the whole time,
just bubbling beneath the surface, and now it's just completely
boiled over. Um. And I'm gonna say, like the rest
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of the episode is going to get into some pretty
dark stuff. We're there's gonna be a few more clips
that are pretty are pretty gross if you want to,
if you want to check out, that's totally fine. After
this episode, I myself, I'm going to take a little
bit of a break from covering this sort of thing
that's taking a little bit too much of a mental
toll because it's a lot of genocide. It's it is,
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it's it is. It's pretty intense. Uh. If you do
feel the need to leave before you go, just remember
this simple phrase for keeping safe in the DFW area.
Tape it to your balls, and your happiness won't be smalls.
So here's another clip from June of Shelley reiterating his
call for the government to execute gay people after he
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received some public backlash for his the previous clip that
we that we used. And I personally believe that all
of these sodomites, you know, people that are men with men,
are pedophile because that means that they just simply are
attracted to children. They're attracted to these people that are
the ages of seventeen, sixteen, fifteen, even though they're grown adult.
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They're going after children and very young children often cases,
and lessing them and hurting them. And you know, anybody
that loves children, loves their family, would want this person
to be executed through the proper channels. That's what I believe,
That's what I teach. I'm not a violent person. So my, my, my,
my kind of fear is that Shelley or someone like
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you know, John Doyle that we talked about in our
last City of Hit episode, is not that they themselves
will bring a weapon to some future pride parade or
go on a rampage and assault or kill gay people, right.
It's that one of their followers or one of their
fans will And these types of pastors and far right
media figures are intentionally leading people onto that outcome. Uh
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to quote Hey, Matt Meta, who's been tracking Steadfast for years, quote,
Because while Shelley is celebrating murder, he's also handing his
congregation a metaphorical loaded gun. And if somebody eventually uses
a literal one to follow through on what they believe
to be God's orders, they know that Shelley will be
proud of them, even as he tells the world he
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has absolutely nothing to do with it. Unquote. So, under
the pressure of activists, Steadfast actually got evicted from their
old building in Hearst, Texas this past March for spreading
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their extreme anti LGBT hate and calls for violence, which
was in violation of the terms of its least, which
prohibited violence and threats. The church has an active gab page,
which kind of tells you a little bit about the
people running this sort of operation. Uh. Insteadfast publicly organized
and live streamed their sermons on a very active Facebook page,
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which is no longer active for reasons that we will
later discuss. And then during these past few months, they've
relocated their church from her to a building that's part
of a strip mall in Wattaga, Texas. Is that how
I'm saying That's That's the thing about any town in
Texas is he doesn't have It doesn't matter how you
pronounce it, because they're Texans, Watauga, wat whatever, do whatever
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you want anyway, they're now a strip mall church. What
I think is good to look for them. I mean
that you're okay, I will correct you here. You're saying
that like it's it's funny as opposed to just the
way everything is in Texas because Texas is a giant
strip mall. Yeah. I guess though. And well, John Shelley
is pretty bad, right, We've we've heard a lot of
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bad clips of him talking about how gay people are
pedophiles and how they should all be killed by the government.
He's not the only guy who's Teadfast preaching violent in
genocidal rhetoric. Enter Dylan Oz, formerly based out of Boise, Idaho,
now preaching at Stedfast Baptist Church in Wattuga, Texas. On Sunday,
June four, a Dylan us Well preaching from the pulpit,
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said that the quote solution for the homosexual is for
the government to execute every single gay person. Here's here
is here the c of him that what does God
say is the answer is the solution for the homosexual
in two thousand twenty two, here in the New Testament,
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here in the Book of Romans, that they are worthy
of death. These people should be put to death. Every
single homosexual in our country should be charged with the
crime the abomination of homosexuality that they have. They should
be convicted in a lawful trial. They should be sentenced
with death. They should be lined up against the wall
and shot in the back of the head. That's what
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God teaches. That's what the Bible says. You don't like it,
you don't like God's work, because that is what God says.
I don't think that the Bible says anything about guns. Actually, Um,
it's it's it's been a while since I read the
King James version that sad Fast exclusively uses. So maybe
it's like a translation thing, but I don't I don't
remember anything about shooting or bullets r guns and inside
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my Bible. Um. But speaking of translation things, I'm gonna
go on a little theology right here about quote unquote
lying with man or lying with men um and how
scholars actually believe if you look at the original Biblical
texts not the crap like the King James version and
the nonsense based off that horrible translation, but the chapters
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where people pull stuff supposedly condemning men for laying with
men and quote unquote homosexuality, which is obviously like a
very modern word, does not belong in a text as
old at the Bible, like they just worre didn't that
wor didn't exist yet. Um, but those passages would probably
more accurately translate to condemning adult men who rape young boys. Uh.
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And even if they didn't, even if it was about
adult men with other adult men. I don't fucking care,
and neither should most Christians, because Christians are not following
all of the laws of Leviticus, nor should they. Like
that ship was for Israelites thousands of years ago to
make their culture distinct from other surrounding nations, like Christians
aren't railing against the use of mixed fabric for Christ's sake.
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I am. There's there's a lot of there's a lot
of stuff. Believe in eating shrimp, But I think if
you use mixed fabrics, you should be executed. You should
be well shot in the back of the head. That's
the mainly thing that anyone using mixed fabrics death penalty instantly. Yeah,
so like, obviously there's not these churches preaching against mixed fabric.
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Here's here's Christian preacher Dylanas again justifying his calls for
the execution of gay people by falsely claiming, obviously that
all homosexuals are pedophiles. Here's the thing, here's why reprobates.
Here's why homosexuals are so dangerous to society. They're not
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like other sinners in the sense that every single day
that they are alive, they're being filled with more and
more and more unrighteousness. That is a scary thing. You
want to know why we say that all homosexuals are pedophiles,
And let me make that very clear. All homosexuals are pedophiles.
And people say, well, what about all the straight people
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that molest children? There faces, I don't care what you
call them. If if a person is with a child,
you're fact, you're reprobated, your sodomite. I don't care what
kind of classifications our government wants to give them. All
homosexuals are pedophiles. Now here's the thing. Here's here's what
I'm not saying. I'm not saying that every single homosexual
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that's alive right now has committed that act with a
child already, because there it could be that they haven't
had the opportunity yet and they will at some point
later in their life. This is why we need to
put these people to death through the proper channels of
the government, because the Bible says that they are being filled.
So here's the thing. Yes, maybe not every single homosexual
has been with a child yet, but what about tomorrow
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when they're filled with a more righteousness. What about in
a week from now when they're a little filled with
a little more righteousness. What about twenty years from now?
What are they going to be like? You look up
the statistics on the Sodomites that abused children there with
so many children and will make you throw up disgusting.
These people are not normal. They're not your average every
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day centers. They're what the Bible calls reverbates. They're rejected
by God. They have no hope of salvation. So in
one John Shelley with Steadfast Baptist Church and with the
help of a network of aggressively homopoblic churches, made a
two hour quote unquote documentary about how to quote protect
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your children called and it's the title is called the
Sodomite Deception. See all right, look's going to look if
we're going to do this thing where there's licenses for
people to buy guns, can we have there be a
license to make a documentary? Can we marry too? So
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the quote unquote Sodomite Deception claims to expose how the
l g b t Q community is contributing to the
collapse of modern society, which I mean based Um. The
trailer opens with a real banger. Most Americans are repelled
by the mere notion of homosexuality. The CBS News survey
shows that two out of three Americans look upon homosexuals
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we've discussed discomfort or fear. One out of ten says hatred.
The documentary celebrates historical laws that criminalized homosexuality and criticizes
more recent laws that expand lgbt Q rights. In the film,
shall He advocates for the death penalty to be used
on the LGBTQ community and uses, you know, many many
slurs across this whole thing, all of all of them
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use all kinds of sluries, as I'm sure we've heard
this past episode. Uh, the pastors of other churches part
of the New Independent Fundamental Baptist movement, also featured in
the documentary. Here's a collection of said pastors screaming in
the trailer for the Sun of My Deception. Oh, thank you, Garrison,
thank you for playing us a trailer of people screaming.
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That's gonna be fun. Starting off with Shelley saying, quote,
why aren't all these Baptists standing up and saying, these
freaks should go back to Hell, should go back in
the closet, put a bullet in your head? Why are
they saying it? Because some of the some of what
he says his heart to hear. So I'm just saying
that for you guys, so you know what he's saying. Anyway,
here's some here's some of the trailer. It's pretty funny.
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Why all these Baptists standing up and saying, these freaks
and go back to Hell, go back to the closet,
put a bull in your head. Why aren't they saying it?
I'm bagging a bagging a trans best. I'm disgusting dog.
No homos will ever be allowed on this turk as
long as I'm the back or here. Never the law
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of the Lord perfect or is it not? It's perfect?
And what did he say? Put them to death? You know,
people say like, well, aren't you sad that fifty saw him? Excide,
here's the problem with that. It's like the equivalent of
asking me, you know what have you asked me? Hey?
Are you sad that fifty pedophiles were killed today? Um? No,
I think that's great. I think that helps society. You know,
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I think Orlando, Florida is a little safer tonight now
that fifthy. You know, the tragedy is that more of
them than die. I mean, the tragedy is I'm I'm
I'm I'm kind of upset that hen finished the job
because these people are predators. So yeah, that sucks. Uh.
But man, there is just a lot of a lot
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of like men in their forties screaming about gay people.
They they they seem really concerned. Yes. Yeah. Um. Someone
in that clip is noted homophobe and the Holocaust denier
Steven Anderson, who of of of Faithful Word Baptist Church.
He's he's the guy shrieking never never anyway. Uh. Steadfast
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Church members and pastors have continued to show up at
city council meetings in multiple cities throughout the Dallas Fort
Worth area. This past Monday, people associated with the church,
as well as residents opposing Steadfasts bigotry, spoke at a
city council meeting in Watouga, Texas. I'm here today to
let the council know of the hay gurt that has
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entered their city. This hay group was called Steadfast Baptist Church.
It was in June one that I first came across
the offensive defamation against women and the LGBTQ community. The
hate statements, videos and social media posts prompted me to
join the protests that started in hers and now has
moved to your city. And I apologize for this, but
this is quoting him. They are all dirty, discased, disgusting
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skank cores. In another video, he also states that women
in positions of leadership and authority are actually a curse
upon our nation. Council members, at the very least, you
should encourage the strip law owner Cider Property of Dallas
to revoke this church's lease. So yeah, there was there
was kind of like this back and forth at this
city council meeting. Multiple multiple people from Steadfast responded by
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screaming into the mic and continuing to advocate the execution
of gay people. One guy that I'll that'll quickly play
a clip of as Philip millstread of of Steadfast, he
went further and made a veiled threat of violence the
city of Otaga and if police officers are allowing this community,
the son of my community, to intimidate church members from
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worshiping God the way he should be worshiped and truth
and if you don't do something, something will happen bad.
So that's fun. Um. It's also a strong, strong definition
of the word veiled. Well, I mean like in terms
like obviously they're they're they're talking about execution and genocide.
He's talking about like actually doing physical like like actually
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like as vigilante is doing physical violence, which is different
because Steadfast usually tries to frame their violence within like
it's okay because it's a part of the government, right.
Uh So when they're like talking about just doing with
like vigilantism or listening like we're going to take this
into our own hands, right, it's it's it's it's a
little bit different. Wattuga Mayor Arthur Minor this past Tuesday,
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so that he is discussing the status of Steadfast Baptist
Church with the city attorney, while also stating that the
attorney has told him that it's a First Amendment issue,
so that there's quote nothing that the city can do
at this time, but we are looking at other avenues unquote,
and I mean that's to be that's probably probably fair.
It's hard to make a church leave a place. Yeah,
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So she did not he did not elaborate further than that,
but he did encourage people to bring up the issue
with the person holding Steadfast's lease at this strip mall
in Watuga. Uh, let us let us go on another
ad break. Do you know who won't shriek at gay
people and call on the government to kill them? Hope
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hopefully these these these ads hopefully, I mean not for
another couple of years. Yeah, well that's why I said hopefully. Okay,
So let's let's talk a bit more about this, this
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church's ideology, and this network that it's associated with, because
it is actually kind of interesting. So Steadfast Baptist Church
is part of Steven Anderson's church network called the New
Independent Fundamental Baptist Movement, uh, which I'm just gonna call
the New i FB because those are way too many words. Um.
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And they claim it's not like a denomination, but rather
a revival of what the old Independent Fundamentalist Baptist movement
once represented. Unquote. The new I f B churches just
like the old IF churches use the King James Bible exclusively.
And the Old Life b movement was founded in the
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forties and was trying to reclaim the fundamentalism of the
nineteen twenties. And so we're just we're going back from
the two thousand twenties to the twenties. Uh, in terms
of their social views times of flat circle. Uh, I'm
gonna I'm gonna quote a little bit from the A
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d L, which of course is very hit and miss
as an organization. But they didn't. But they did, they did.
They do have an they do have a decent article
on the new U I f B churches because this
is like specifically, the thing they focused on is this
sort of anti Semitism. So anyway, quote, the New I
f B ideology promotes the anti Semitic notion that Jews
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today are impostors who are not the true Jews described
in the Bible, which by the way, is awfully close
to Christian identity. I mean that is essentially Christian identity.
It's very very sim alert. I think the new I. F. B.
Stuff is slightly different. It comes out from a slightly
different directions, but they reach a very similar conclusion. Like
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I don't think they believe that Christians are like the
true Jews, and they don't talk about like Arians and stuff,
and they're not doing British Israelism, but they exact Judaism
is the Synagogue of say, but it's like, well, some
of them do use the term the Synagogue of Satan,
but like you know, they hate Judaism because as a religion,
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it's made up of Jews who do not recognize Jesus
as the Messiah, so therefore they are not truly descendants
of Israel, right. It's it's it's they come at it
from more of that direction, but it is still extremely
close to Christian identity like it is it is. It
is just a tiny hop of a pond likes for sure, No,
they like they are. So they are absolutely in the
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same networks because they are preaching very similar ideology. Um
back to the back, back to the d L quote.
They often claim that Jews today worship Satan and that
the Star of David represents the devil uh. The new
i FB doctrine promotes the notion of an Antichrist whom
they claim will be Jewish. In their sermons, various new
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various New i FB pastors often openly state that they
hate Judaism as a religion, and in addition to criticizing Judaism,
many New i FB pastors also promote anti Semitic tropes
about Jewish power and control over sectors like finance, news, media,
and journalism. New i FB pastors have also promoted Holocaust denial.
(32:36):
In pastor Steven Anderson presented a number of false claims
in a video specifically addressing the so called quote Holocaust
hoax unquote, saying the numbers don't add up, the facts
don't add up. Um. Anderson alleged that quote some Jews
were among the many quote casualties on both sides uh
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did matter, but he blamed those deaths on starvation and
poor conditions, claiming that quote just because people were rounded
up and putting for slabor camps does not mean that
they were systematically exterminated or cremated to the tune of
six million unquote. Unlike many in the evangelical movement. New
I f B churches are staunchly anti Zionist and anti
Israel dated christ Zionism as quote jew worship unquote, and
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view the traditional support for Israel among Evangelical Christians as
a result of Jewish deception in support of the anti christ.
But they have a ton of opinions about the sinking
of the U. S. S. Liberty in line with their
broader anti Simmitic use of Judaism as a false and
evil religion. The modern nation of Israel is regularly characterized
as wicked and a fraud unquote. And they do not
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dislike Israel because Israel commits genocide against Palestinian people. Because
as you say that, they're very pro genocide as a concept. Yeah,
and to be honest, probably pretty pro genice side of
the Palestinian people. Yeah, they just not that way. Yeah.
So that's a little a little right up on what
this network of churches believes. Like everyone you heard talk
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talk inside the Sodomite Deception trailer is part of this
network of churches. Um, they're all across the South, some
of their and some of summer in like California, Arizona, Idaho, oh, Oklahoma, Texas,
you know, lots of other Southern states, and if you
want to carry out a sodomite deception, tape your drugs
to your junk when you drive through Texas. So thankfully,
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churches like these are not standing unopposed. Specifically in the
Dallas Fort Worth area, there has been a number of
protests at the church's old location, which resulted in them
getting evicted, and protests at their new location. I'm gonna
place some audio from from protests that have taken taken
place over the course of the past few weeks. We're
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here to protest that has Baptist charges to the registered
hate group here in Texas on spl center dot org.
We protested them and hearst for nine months. We found
them here and so we are back every Wednesday and
every Sunday. I am a mom of a kid from
the LGBTQ community, and I am not going to stand
(35:21):
for you wishing death upon my kid just because of
who he is and who knows. It's extremely exhausting, um,
but at the same time, it's very reassuring because we
get nothing but support from the people on the street
to drive by and give us plenty of homs and waves,
and it's just so much love and support from the
people that live in the community here as well as first,
(35:43):
that's my city, so it's very personal. And I've noticed
that we've gotten a lot of new people come out
here because this is their city and it's personal for them.
So that's that's pretty good to hear that there's actually
people standing up to to say, hey, these guys suck
in person. UH, They're all they should be more people
going in person because once you like, the church is
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obviously facing a lot of a lot of conversations like
online and stuff, right, they're facing a lot of online pushback,
but once you bring it into the real world, it
definitely it's a totally different thing in terms of how
how they're being viewed. I mean, in some ways, you know,
they enjoy being persecuted, right, they enjoy the notion of
Christian persecution. But also it's great to have, you know,
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people we having pride flags outside their little church every Sunday. UM.
The church still has an active Instagram page UM and
still has a Twitter account, but their actual tweets do
keep getting taken down for hate speech. UM. A week ago,
YouTube striked UH Steadfast's main channel where they post videos
(36:47):
and sermons as they weren't able to use their main
channel on Facebook, then began promoting their second YouTube channel
as a platform to stream their murderous anti gay hate
sermons during Pride Month, and a few days after I
posted about that on Twitter, their secondary YouTube got completely banned,
and then after a few days their Facebook page was
also taken down. So they are they do have, they
(37:09):
do have a shrinking online presence. There's this other clip
from the Sodamite Deception trailer that I think really gives
you a peek into the minds of these folks who
are pushing this sort of stuff. Um. And you can
even see this the same sentiment uh in the rise
of white nationalism and supremacy this past a decade. And
my question is why are we embracing all this change
(37:31):
as Christians to the Bible change. The Bible radically changed
ten years ago, Mike King, James, Bible hasn't changed. The
word lincey was translated in sixteen eleven, period, So where
in the world is everything changing. It's not from gol,
that's for sure. You know what's coming from the working
of Satan. The deceiving people thinking all it's normal now.
(37:56):
So our our challenge, as people who are you know,
anti fascists, people who stand against you know or anti racist,
push back against this type of anti queer um organizing
our Our our challenge is to keep the change coming
and to push back against these freaks trying to hold
onto the twentieth century right. The fear of change and
(38:17):
the fear of the future is driving their you know,
desire to return to the past. The train of like
social progress was moving forward over the course of the
past twenty years, and they're scared and they're trying to
stop it and move it backwards. And it's up to
us to make that as hard as possible. Um. But yeah,
(38:38):
that is that is my that is my stuff on
on Steadfast Church. I'm now going to open up, open
up the floor to anyone. Robert Chris, What do you
guys think of all of the stuff we just heard
about the past thirty minutes. One of the keys is
you want to use tape that has a good level
(38:59):
of it he Asian, but it isn't going to actually
damage your skin really, Yeah, like tape, what are we
doing here? Scotch tape will do. Okay, you really want
to avoid duct tape, but something like painters tape generally
isn't going to have the adhesion that you need. Um,
it's gonna be a little bit unpleasant anytime you're taking
tape off of And I do recommend actually putting it
like more in the taint area or the inner thigh.
(39:21):
You're gonna have a better better experience. You might want
to shave that inner thigh if you're not somebody who
does normally, just so that you have a better time
getting your drugs free. But you know, crotch it. That's
always been my motto. Just crotch it again. Great, great, great,
great Texas insight coming coming out of Robert Evans here. No,
I mean, like, okay, so seriously, the fact that there's
(39:43):
been resistance to these folks in the street, um, and
that it's been significant that they've like not just people
showing up to yell at them, approach them in the moment,
but people you know, working to get them kicked out
of their locations and stuff. Um, that's really good. Um.
And that's that's honestly more the Texas that I have
(40:04):
known than or at least it's as much of the
Texas that I've known as like the shitty things that
this says about Texas. Um. First protest I ever went
to was against a church like this who you've probably
heard of, the Westboro Baptist Church, when they showed up
to protest at the Holocaust Museum. Uh um. And it
(40:26):
was like like a whole hundreds of people showed up
to like and there were like six of those fuckers. Um. So,
I mean, the problem with Texas has never been that, Um,
there aren't a lot of awesome people in Texas. It's
that folks like this, these who really want to use
the mechanisms of the state to carry out a genocide,
(40:46):
have a lot of friends in high places, and many
of those folks spent decades ensharing that it's basically impossible
for anybody else to win election outside of like you know,
localctions and cities and stuff, which often city governments in Texas. Again,
if you look at a lot of the the reaction
to Abbot's anti trans bills and and where will be
(41:08):
sort of the the actual resistance is Texas is anti
gay legislation gets more extreme, um. Is in cities like Dallaston,
Austin and Houston, and it is like local laws and
local local elected leaders as well as local activists who
represent an awful lot of Texas. But and you know,
(41:28):
don't have any real power in the levers of the state.
But do you tend to stand up and in a
lot of cases like people did for some of these
these events in Dallas recently put their bodies, you know,
in between fascists and the people are threatening. And I
mean the new I F. B churches are definitely probably
more extreme, more explicit than most of your average Christian churches.
(41:52):
But it is not uncommon to preach this general strain
of homophobia. Maybe it turned down like one not of
the dial from the pulpit in the majority of of
of churches, specifically in the South. Um, yeah, we should
be lighting these people against wall and killing them. But
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you say that, you know, this is not biblical. You
know we're supposed to live in a biblical society. And
you say everything, but that last like ten or yeah,
it's that it is. It is not like this strain
of homophobia is has been there this this entire time. Um,
(42:35):
and people of I feel like they have permission to
say things now that they honestly wouldn't probably wouldn't have
said as explicitly like five years ago. Um, but there
was there's always been people working to keep this thing
within the culture. As as stuff was progressing socially, there
was people working to keep this type of bigotry still
(42:55):
alive in large sectors of the American public. And a
lot of those sectors are related to Evangelical Christianity, and
a lot of those sectors are really related to the
communities around church building. So that's like a big part
and how Christian fascism has been so effective the past
that you know, like the basically the past decades, starting
starting with the Tea Party, is that they've had people
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with vested interests like keeping this stuff afloat. I mean, uh,
Lips of TikTok receives her funding from Seth Dillon, the
guy who runs The Babylon b which started as a
Christian satire site. Um like now Elon Musk's favorite place
on the Internet, which is wild, I mean, but but yeah,
like like you know, like I I remember reading The
Babylon B when I was like fucking twelve years old,
(43:42):
when I was like a Christian kid, like I it
was just like like It used to be just a small,
niche Christian site, and now it grew into this you know,
big powerful force in a modern conservatism. It is directly
funding lips of TikTok, which is basically now just a
gun that gets pointed at whatever, you know, target the
event that that they want. So it's now it's like
(44:03):
this completely like AstroTurf thing with all of this funding
and people choosing what events to target. So like it
all goes back to this, It all goes back to
these types of churches and this type of this type
of rhetoric coming out of you know, these few misinterpreted
biblical passages. It is weird, how Like I mean, when
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I was, you know, a teenager, when you talked about
like Christian entertainment, Christian comedy, Christian music, Christian media, you
meant like the most boring milktoast ship and the planet.
Like not that there wasn't toxic and hateful ship within
being preached to churches, but like Christian media was like
(44:44):
it was pretty hard to be offended and most of it.
And now when you say that, like you immediately go
to like, oh, yeah, somebody's trying to get gay people murdered. Um. Yeah,
it's something else. Yeah, there's been a large increase in
the militancy of Christian propaganda and posing. You know, stuff
that used to be just very like very boring milk
(45:04):
like milk toast and like still very like you know, patriarchal, heteronormative,
you know, probably low key white supremacist um. Is now Yeah,
now lots of the propaganda is way more focused in
this type of like militant Christianity um and focused on
you know all all of like the end times stuff
has gotten so much more more of a thing um
(45:28):
and just how it relates to like physical violence against
currently living people anyway. Yeah, that's the that's the Steadfast
Baptist Church and the Sadamite deception um. Brought to you
by people out of Dallas. So yeah, those are my
those are my two episodes. I mean we started first
(45:49):
episode this week was part one. Last episode this week
is part two, so they're spread out, but those are
those are my two two episodes on the City of
the Homophobia and Christian Fascism inside the City of Hate. Look,
if you want to help out, find the addresses of
one of these churches. Now, the next thing you're gonna
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do is you're going to find a good Torrent client
and you're going to download a DVD rip of Morbius.
There's a lot of them out there. Then you're gonna
burn that. You may need to buy a burner. It's
a lot of people aren't gonna have this equipment. But
you're gonna burn that onto a DVD. You can also
put it on a flash drive if you really wanted.
And then you're just gonna start mailing those in mass
to the church. If we get them enough copies of Morbius,
(46:34):
I think we might be able to turn them around.
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Hello, Welcome to it could happen here. This is part
two of I guess two part series about Dallas, Texas.
Finally we're getting in a Dallas, Texas resident to refute
some of this this slander. Sure, my, my, my flawless hometown.
Uh briefly host to Bernie Sanders when he had to
(00:29):
take care of something. I've I've spent a few summers
in Dallas. I've I've been around it. Unfortunate, I've been
around the DFW area. I wouldn't recommend spending summers in Dallas.
Hold on, hold on, I wouldn't recommend spending winters in
Dallas either. There's a couple of weeks in spring that
it's tolerable to be in Dallas. Try to make it.
(00:50):
Then it occurs to me that we should ask Garsey,
where were you when they killed JFK. I was, I'm Garrison,
I was. I was born in the twenty first century.
What have you ever ordered? A man liquor Carcano rifle
in the back of American Rifleman magazine. Okay, let's let's
open by by first briefly talking about the thirty one
(01:14):
Dorky asked neo Nazis, who gotta rest in Idaho. We're
planning and you want to talk about it, That's right,
That is exactly why we've already done the episode. But
I'm always down to talk about this. I know we
just did an episode talking about it, but I wasn't
on that one. So I have a few paragraphs on
how it relates to today's topic of Christian fascist violence.
(01:37):
I just want to state that you and I were
both hanging out at a party when we got the
news about that, and it is the hardest I have
ever seen you laugh for like four hours. So and hey,
like Patriot Fronts based on a Texas so that that
also there is a degree of relevance here, yes to
the bulk of our of our topic today. So yeah,
(01:57):
I think it's pretty funny because the groups fashions all
dressed in the same outfit. It's almost incomprehensibly trade and sauna,
so they wouldn't pass out well crammed into a hot,
sweaty U haul truck driving from all around the country
to cord relate the Idaho so that they can march
around with flags and shields to yell at gay and transcits.
(02:21):
And you know what they did Instead, they got filled
over and setain a ditch while getting their little cladhood
masks taken off, and spent the rest of a day
to Idaho jail. And I'll go talxed. It's really funny,
especially since again their best case scenario was spending a
day free in quarterlin Ida. I know, and it's so yeah, yeah, yeah,
(02:45):
I'll be like, you can be against cops in the
carstral system while still recognizing how innately and hilarious superious,
like it's it's fine when cops and groups like Patriot
Front beef that's generally a win win for me. I'm
not cheering on police tactics. It's just it's just recognizing
(03:07):
that one of my enemies temporarily making another of my
enemies life's harder is pretty funny. It's really funny. It's
it's the same reason that we don't condemn police violence
when a cop shoots another cop like exactly like like's
and like, based on these charges, I doubt any of
these guys, in particular, we'll go to prison for long
(03:28):
enough to form like any like dangerous connections with other
incarcert and people. Well, I'm sure there's a couple of
dudes in there that if you know, they were to
go to a serious prison, could make meaningful inroads with
the Nazis there. But man, most of those dudes Area
Nations guys are just kind of like they're not going
to consider comrades like the the Yeah, it's yeah, I
(03:53):
think I think the Patroon Front, Idaho situation seems like
it will mostly just be inconvenience and national embarrassment for them,
And I think time, I think we can we can
let this one just be as funny as it is,
considering there was thirty less Nazis there to intimidate and
attack people at pride Um and Patriot Front maybe now
less willing to pull stunts like this in the future. Yeah.
I've thought about this a lot, and I just can't
(04:14):
see anyways in which what has happened could really be
a problem. Um, it seems to just purely be funny,
So just enjoy it. Yeah, look, look this this is
what happens when you appropriate lesbian culture. You get arrested. Actually,
not all that different from what Garrison was saying immediately
after the arrest, That is true. I made a lot
(04:38):
of jokes about how Patriot Front looks pretty pretty gay
while getting handcuffed. Get the shine the cancel radar, get
the cancelometer out. We're canceling Garrison. Um. Anyway, let's let's
continue with this episode. So here is some other fun
facts about about the whole Idaho thing. So to a
(05:00):
the Patriot Front members who were crammed into that U
haul last weekend. We're connected to a church helmed by
former Washington state Representative Matt Shay who's also associated with
the Bundees, the Oath Keepers and leads the church at
Planned Parenthood. Uh. He has advocated like civil war if
abortion and seem sex marriage aren't stopped, to kill all
(05:20):
the men in left wing cities, all that good stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
And he was also present at the protesting cort alane
at the Pride event this past weekend. And we can
we can draw like this direct line from the surge
of groomer and anti drag propaganda to neo Nazis deciding
to organize and travel across straight lines to threaten people
in a Pride event in the days leading up to
(05:42):
the event. Chaia right check the woman behind the Limbs
of TikTok account repeatedly highlighted it weaponizing pearl clutching Satanic panic.
In right Check's first post about the Pride event, it
was about how the Satanic Temple was promoting the event.
In an Adelite tweet by someone claiming to represent local Satanists.
On seventh, Lips of TikTok posted quote, family friendly drag
(06:04):
dance party being promoted by the Satanic Temple in Idaho.
We are living in hell, which is a nice and
I slip un there that I can't quite tell if
that was intentional or unintentional about Satanic Temple and living
in hell. Anyway, I thought that was funny. Um Dave Riley,
a white supremacist who attended the deadly Unite the Right
rally and Charlottesville who also organized with Identity Europa a
(06:28):
few years back. He he actively solicited lives of TikTok
to draw attention to the Pride event and sought her
help in trying to like get publicity for the protests
against it, quoting the SPLC hate Watch quote. The Idaho
Tribune also due attention to it. Idaho Tribune, far from
(06:48):
a real newspaper, is to obscure junkan news publication that
on multiple occasions has promoted Riley's political activism. Anti racist
activists also tipped hate Watch off to infrastructural overlap between
a website that promotes Riley by name and Idaho Tribune.
Hey Watch reviewed the source code for Dave Riley's website
and the Idaho Tribune site and confirmed that the two
(07:11):
sites share graphics from the same web hosting account, meaning
that they are likely controlled by the same person unquote.
And then on June nine, Lips of TikTok posted screenshots
taken from the Idaho Tribune about the Satanic temple and
the quarterly and Pride event, boosting content from that white
supremacist linked to website to her one point two million followers.
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Every single one of these figures using fascist rhetoric at
utilizing stochastic methods, including Chia Wright check, her financial backer
Seth Dylan, and people like Tucker Carlson are all responsible
for inciting events like this. Tucker led his show last
week by using a Nazi reference when referring to a
Pride event in Dallas in terms of stuff that's like
(07:52):
outside of you know, conservative states like idahoor Texas. Late
last month, right Check as Lips of TikTok Target did
a Bay Area drag Queen storytime event, which is exactly
what it sounds like. It's drag queen's reading children's books
to kids in a public library. And then on June twelve,
it was stormed by a group of around ten men
dressed in proud boy attire and shirts that read kill
(08:14):
your local pedophile. They threatened attendees while shouting homophobic and
transphobic slurs, terrifying a bunch of kids who had come
to hear queens read stories. So how did this kind
of stuff and like, how did this rhetoric spread so quickly?
Like how did this grumar stuff get so volatile so quickly?
Just in these just in these past few months, in
(08:35):
our War on Transpeople episodes and my Operation Privateful episodes,
we discussed the history of this sort of like save
the children and like pedophile rhetoric. Uh. And in my
City of Hate episode earlier this week, we talked about
how this wave of homophobia was able to write off
the conspiracism of Pizza Gate and Q and on. And
then in this episode we're gonna talk about the types
(08:57):
of places that this extreme bigotry was able to fester
this past decade and how it relates to Evangelical Christianity
and Christian fascism. I'm gonna play an audio clip from
a city council meeting in Arlington, Texas that happened on
May twenty five. Take a listen. My name is Jonathan Joey.
(09:18):
I'm the pastor has been as Badness Church, and I'm
here today because I have church members that live in Arlington.
I live only a few miles away from here, and
I do business in Arlington on a weekly basis. I'm
horrified and ashamed that the city has assigned promote and
solicit pride in this city. Pride is nothing to be celebrated.
In fact, it's an abomination. The Bible says in Proverbs
(09:40):
chapter eight, the fear of the Lord is to hate pride,
hate evil, pride and arrogancy and the evil way and
the throw word mouth do I hate? According to God,
we should hate pride, not celebrate it. We should humble ourselves,
as virtually the whole room said that we were a
nation under God in the American flag, and we were
(10:01):
a state under God. If we're in the Texas flag,
we should humble ourselves. What the Bible says, and not
what the small minority here that doesn't bully would say.
In June of Mayor Jeff Williams officially announced the Steps
a Pride month in June for the city of Arleyton.
But I don't understand why we celebrate what used to
(10:24):
be a crime not long ago. The fact, recording to
the Texas penal coach and sex respectful homosexual conduct, that
person commiss an offense and he engaged in deviated sexual
intercourse with another individual of the same sex. In fact,
that is still on the books today, even though Lawrence
(10:44):
versus Texas overruled that in two thousand three. But God
has already ruled that murder adults, three witch graft rate,
beastiality of homosexualities are crimes worthy of capital punishment. Arlington,
just for context, is one of many towns in North
Dallas that if you happen to have wheed on you,
you're gonna want to tape it to the bottom of
(11:05):
your balls before driving through Arlington. Thanks for that great,
great weed tip from You're welcome Garrison. So that is
Pastor Jonathan Shelley who lives in Grand Prairie, UM. He
was there at a at an Arlington, Texas City Council meeting,
casually advocating killing gay people while citing Texas is laws
(11:26):
against homosexuality. Their church and this connected branch of Baptists
that will learn more about later, have an intense record
of preaching genocide against gay and trans people and also
a fair amount of anti Semitism. Big big shocker there.
The previous pastor at this church, which was called Steadfast
Baptist Church. UM. But the previous pastor who resigned in
(11:49):
twenty nineteen due to allegations that he paid for sex workers,
was involved in gambling, and had smoked marijuana. I guess
he should have taped more of it to his balls.
Um to Nash, he carter national attention for celebrating the
Orlando Pulse gay nightclub massacre, which killed people. From the pulpit,
the pastor said that God should finish the job and
(12:12):
referred to the murdered patrons as sodomites, perverts, and pedophiles.
The new pastor, John Shelley, continues this same strain of
preaching violence against gay people. Uh. This next clip is
from June one, right after someone died after getting hit
by a truck. At a Pride parade in Florida, which
(12:32):
we later found out was a complete accident. But I
don't don't think the public knew that at the time. No,
and obviously people, I mean, I think all of our
assumptions was, oh god, you know this is the thing. Yeah, well,
here's the clip. If it's going beyond just saying you
do all this week and stuff, it's saying you enjoy it,
You enjoy murder, you enjoy malignity, you enjoy hating God. Look,
(12:56):
there's only one group that enjoys that is the Pride
parades going up now Street. And you know it's great
when trucks accidentally go through those, you know, parades. I
think only one person died, so hopefully we can hope
for more in the future. You say, well, that's mean. Yeah,
but the Bible says that they're worthy of death. You say,
(13:16):
are you sad when fags die? No, I think it's great.
I hope they all die. I would love it if
every fag would die right now. And you say, well,
I don't think that's what you really mean. That's exactly
what I mean. I really mean it. So yeah, it's
it's a poor drummer like that's June, even a year
before the big wave of groomer stuff got pushed this
(13:38):
past spring with the help of Lives of TikTok, and
that kind of shows how susceptible modern conservatism was to
this resurgence of in your face homophobia. There's been people
to working to like keep it here the whole time,
just bubbling beneath the surface, and now it's just completely
boiled over. Um. And I'm gonna say, like the rest
(13:58):
of the episode is going to get into some pretty
dark stuff. We're there's gonna be a few more clips
that are pretty are pretty gross if you want to,
if you want to check out, that's totally fine. After
this episode, I myself, I'm going to take a little
bit of a break from covering this sort of thing
that's taking a little bit too much of a mental
toll because it's a lot of genocide. It's it is,
(14:20):
it's it is. It's pretty intense. Uh. If you do
feel the need to leave before you go, just remember
this simple phrase for keeping safe in the DFW area.
Tape it to your balls, and your happiness won't be smalls.
So here's another clip from June of Shelley reiterating his
call for the government to execute gay people after he
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received some public backlash for his the previous clip that
we that we used. And I personally believe that all
of these sodomites, you know, people that are men with men,
are pedophile because that means that they just simply are
attracted to children. They're attracted to these people that are
the ages of seventeen, sixteen, fifteen, even though they're grown adult.
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They're going after children and very young children often cases,
and lessing them and hurting them. And you know, anybody
that loves children, loves their family, would want this person
to be executed through the proper channels. That's what I believe,
That's what I teach. I'm not a violent person. So my, my, my,
my kind of fear is that Shelley or someone like
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you know, John Doyle that we talked about in our
last City of Hit episode, is not that they themselves
will bring a weapon to some future pride parade or
go on a rampage and assault or kill gay people, right.
It's that one of their followers or one of their
fans will And these types of pastors and far right
media figures are intentionally leading people onto that outcome. Uh
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to quote Hey, Matt Meta, who's been tracking Steadfast for years, quote,
Because while Shelley is celebrating murder, he's also handing his
congregation a metaphorical loaded gun. And if somebody eventually uses
a literal one to follow through on what they believe
to be God's orders, they know that Shelley will be
proud of them, even as he tells the world he
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has absolutely nothing to do with it. Unquote. So, under
the pressure of activists, Steadfast actually got evicted from their
old building in Hearst, Texas this past March for spreading
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their extreme anti LGBT hate and calls for violence, which
was in violation of the terms of its least, which
prohibited violence and threats. The church has an active gab page,
which kind of tells you a little bit about the
people running this sort of operation. Uh. Insteadfast publicly organized
and live streamed their sermons on a very active Facebook page,
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which is no longer active for reasons that we will
later discuss. And then during these past few months, they've
relocated their church from her to a building that's part
of a strip mall in Wattaga, Texas. Is that how
I'm saying That's That's the thing about any town in
Texas is he doesn't have It doesn't matter how you
pronounce it, because they're Texans, Watauga, wat whatever, do whatever
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you want anyway, they're now a strip mall church. What
I think is good to look for them. I mean
that you're okay, I will correct you here. You're saying
that like it's it's funny as opposed to just the
way everything is in Texas because Texas is a giant
strip mall. Yeah. I guess though. And well, John Shelley
is pretty bad, right, We've we've heard a lot of
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bad clips of him talking about how gay people are
pedophiles and how they should all be killed by the government.
He's not the only guy who's Teadfast preaching violent in
genocidal rhetoric. Enter Dylan Oz, formerly based out of Boise, Idaho,
now preaching at Stedfast Baptist Church in Wattuga, Texas. On Sunday,
June four, a Dylan us Well preaching from the pulpit,
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said that the quote solution for the homosexual is for
the government to execute every single gay person. Here's here
is here the c of him that what does God
say is the answer is the solution for the homosexual
in two thousand twenty two, here in the New Testament,
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here in the Book of Romans, that they are worthy
of death. These people should be put to death. Every
single homosexual in our country should be charged with the
crime the abomination of homosexuality that they have. They should
be convicted in a lawful trial. They should be sentenced
with death. They should be lined up against the wall
and shot in the back of the head. That's what
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God teaches. That's what the Bible says. You don't like it,
you don't like God's work, because that is what God says.
I don't think that the Bible says anything about guns. Actually, Um,
it's it's it's been a while since I read the
King James version that sad Fast exclusively uses. So maybe
it's like a translation thing, but I don't I don't
remember anything about shooting or bullets r guns and inside
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my Bible. Um. But speaking of translation things, I'm gonna
go on a little theology right here about quote unquote
lying with man or lying with men um and how
scholars actually believe if you look at the original Biblical
texts not the crap like the King James version and
the nonsense based off that horrible translation, but the chapters
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where people pull stuff supposedly condemning men for laying with
men and quote unquote homosexuality, which is obviously like a
very modern word, does not belong in a text as
old at the Bible, like they just worre didn't that
wor didn't exist yet. Um, but those passages would probably
more accurately translate to condemning adult men who rape young boys. Uh.
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And even if they didn't, even if it was about
adult men with other adult men. I don't fucking care,
and neither should most Christians, because Christians are not following
all of the laws of Leviticus, nor should they. Like
that ship was for Israelites thousands of years ago to
make their culture distinct from other surrounding nations, like Christians
aren't railing against the use of mixed fabric for Christ's sake.
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I am. There's there's a lot of there's a lot
of stuff. Believe in eating shrimp, But I think if
you use mixed fabrics, you should be executed. You should
be well shot in the back of the head. That's
the mainly thing that anyone using mixed fabrics death penalty instantly. Yeah,
so like, obviously there's not these churches preaching against mixed fabric.
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Here's here's Christian preacher Dylanas again justifying his calls for
the execution of gay people by falsely claiming, obviously that
all homosexuals are pedophiles. Here's the thing, here's why reprobates.
Here's why homosexuals are so dangerous to society. They're not
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like other sinners in the sense that every single day
that they are alive, they're being filled with more and
more and more unrighteousness. That is a scary thing. You
want to know why we say that all homosexuals are pedophiles,
And let me make that very clear. All homosexuals are pedophiles.
And people say, well, what about all the straight people
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that molest children? There faces, I don't care what you
call them. If if a person is with a child,
you're fact, you're reprobated, your sodomite. I don't care what
kind of classifications our government wants to give them. All
homosexuals are pedophiles. Now here's the thing. Here's here's what
I'm not saying. I'm not saying that every single homosexual
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that's alive right now has committed that act with a
child already, because there it could be that they haven't
had the opportunity yet and they will at some point
later in their life. This is why we need to
put these people to death through the proper channels of
the government, because the Bible says that they are being filled.
So here's the thing. Yes, maybe not every single homosexual
has been with a child yet, but what about tomorrow
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when they're filled with a more righteousness. What about in
a week from now when they're a little filled with
a little more righteousness. What about twenty years from now?
What are they going to be like? You look up
the statistics on the Sodomites that abused children there with
so many children and will make you throw up disgusting.
These people are not normal. They're not your average every
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day centers. They're what the Bible calls reverbates. They're rejected
by God. They have no hope of salvation. So in
one John Shelley with Steadfast Baptist Church and with the
help of a network of aggressively homopoblic churches, made a
two hour quote unquote documentary about how to quote protect
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your children called and it's the title is called the
Sodomite Deception. See all right, look's going to look if
we're going to do this thing where there's licenses for
people to buy guns, can we have there be a
license to make a documentary? Can we marry too? So
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the quote unquote Sodomite Deception claims to expose how the
l g b t Q community is contributing to the
collapse of modern society, which I mean based Um. The
trailer opens with a real banger. Most Americans are repelled
by the mere notion of homosexuality. The CBS News survey
shows that two out of three Americans look upon homosexuals
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we've discussed discomfort or fear. One out of ten says hatred.
The documentary celebrates historical laws that criminalized homosexuality and criticizes
more recent laws that expand lgbt Q rights. In the film,
shall He advocates for the death penalty to be used
on the LGBTQ community and uses, you know, many many
slurs across this whole thing, all of all of them
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use all kinds of sluries, as I'm sure we've heard
this past episode. Uh, the pastors of other churches part
of the New Independent Fundamental Baptist movement, also featured in
the documentary. Here's a collection of said pastors screaming in
the trailer for the Sun of My Deception. Oh, thank you, Garrison,
thank you for playing us a trailer of people screaming.
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That's gonna be fun. Starting off with Shelley saying, quote,
why aren't all these Baptists standing up and saying, these
freaks should go back to Hell, should go back in
the closet, put a bullet in your head? Why are
they saying it? Because some of the some of what
he says his heart to hear. So I'm just saying
that for you guys, so you know what he's saying. Anyway,
here's some here's some of the trailer. It's pretty funny.
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Why all these Baptists standing up and saying, these freaks
and go back to Hell, go back to the closet,
put a bull in your head. Why aren't they saying it?
I'm bagging a bagging a trans best. I'm disgusting dog.
No homos will ever be allowed on this turk as
long as I'm the back or here. Never the law
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of the Lord perfect or is it not? It's perfect?
And what did he say? Put them to death? You know,
people say like, well, aren't you sad that fifty saw him? Excide,
here's the problem with that. It's like the equivalent of
asking me, you know what have you asked me? Hey?
Are you sad that fifty pedophiles were killed today? Um? No,
I think that's great. I think that helps society. You know,
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I think Orlando, Florida is a little safer tonight now
that fifthy. You know, the tragedy is that more of
them than die. I mean, the tragedy is I'm I'm
I'm I'm kind of upset that hen finished the job
because these people are predators. So yeah, that sucks. Uh.
But man, there is just a lot of a lot
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of like men in their forties screaming about gay people.
They they they seem really concerned. Yes. Yeah. Um. Someone
in that clip is noted homophobe and the Holocaust denier
Steven Anderson, who of of of Faithful Word Baptist Church.
He's he's the guy shrieking never never anyway. Uh. Steadfast
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Church members and pastors have continued to show up at
city council meetings in multiple cities throughout the Dallas Fort
Worth area. This past Monday, people associated with the church,
as well as residents opposing Steadfasts bigotry, spoke at a
city council meeting in Watouga, Texas. I'm here today to
let the council know of the hay gurt that has
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entered their city. This hay group was called Steadfast Baptist Church.
It was in June one that I first came across
the offensive defamation against women and the LGBTQ community. The
hate statements, videos and social media posts prompted me to
join the protests that started in hers and now has
moved to your city. And I apologize for this, but
this is quoting him. They are all dirty, discased, disgusting
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skank cores. In another video, he also states that women
in positions of leadership and authority are actually a curse
upon our nation. Council members, at the very least, you
should encourage the strip law owner Cider Property of Dallas
to revoke this church's lease. So yeah, there was there
was kind of like this back and forth at this
city council meeting. Multiple multiple people from Steadfast responded by
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screaming into the mic and continuing to advocate the execution
of gay people. One guy that I'll that'll quickly play
a clip of as Philip millstread of of Steadfast, he
went further and made a veiled threat of violence the
city of Otaga and if police officers are allowing this community,
the son of my community, to intimidate church members from
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worshiping God the way he should be worshiped and truth
and if you don't do something, something will happen bad.
So that's fun. Um. It's also a strong, strong definition
of the word veiled. Well, I mean like in terms
like obviously they're they're they're talking about execution and genocide.
He's talking about like actually doing physical like like actually
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like as vigilante is doing physical violence, which is different
because Steadfast usually tries to frame their violence within like
it's okay because it's a part of the government, right.
Uh So when they're like talking about just doing with
like vigilantism or listening like we're going to take this
into our own hands, right, it's it's it's it's a
little bit different. Wattuga Mayor Arthur Minor this past Tuesday,
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so that he is discussing the status of Steadfast Baptist
Church with the city attorney, while also stating that the
attorney has told him that it's a First Amendment issue,
so that there's quote nothing that the city can do
at this time, but we are looking at other avenues unquote,
and I mean that's to be that's probably probably fair.
It's hard to make a church leave a place. Yeah,
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So she did not he did not elaborate further than that,
but he did encourage people to bring up the issue
with the person holding Steadfast's lease at this strip mall
in Watuga. Uh, let us let us go on another
ad break. Do you know who won't shriek at gay
people and call on the government to kill them? Hope
(29:03):
hopefully these these these ads hopefully, I mean not for
another couple of years. Yeah, well that's why I said hopefully. Okay,
So let's let's talk a bit more about this, this
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church's ideology, and this network that it's associated with, because
it is actually kind of interesting. So Steadfast Baptist Church
is part of Steven Anderson's church network called the New
Independent Fundamental Baptist Movement, uh, which I'm just gonna call
the New i FB because those are way too many words. Um.
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And they claim it's not like a denomination, but rather
a revival of what the old Independent Fundamentalist Baptist movement
once represented. Unquote. The new I f B churches just
like the old IF churches use the King James Bible exclusively.
And the Old Life b movement was founded in the
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forties and was trying to reclaim the fundamentalism of the
nineteen twenties. And so we're just we're going back from
the two thousand twenties to the twenties. Uh, in terms
of their social views times of flat circle. Uh, I'm
gonna I'm gonna quote a little bit from the A
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d L, which of course is very hit and miss
as an organization. But they didn't. But they did, they did.
They do have an they do have a decent article
on the new U I f B churches because this
is like specifically, the thing they focused on is this
sort of anti Semitism. So anyway, quote, the New I
f B ideology promotes the anti Semitic notion that Jews
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today are impostors who are not the true Jews described
in the Bible, which by the way, is awfully close
to Christian identity. I mean that is essentially Christian identity.
It's very very sim alert. I think the new I. F. B.
Stuff is slightly different. It comes out from a slightly
different directions, but they reach a very similar conclusion. Like
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I don't think they believe that Christians are like the
true Jews, and they don't talk about like Arians and stuff,
and they're not doing British Israelism, but they exact Judaism
is the Synagogue of say, but it's like, well, some
of them do use the term the Synagogue of Satan,
but like you know, they hate Judaism because as a religion,
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it's made up of Jews who do not recognize Jesus
as the Messiah, so therefore they are not truly descendants
of Israel, right. It's it's it's they come at it
from more of that direction, but it is still extremely
close to Christian identity like it is it is. It
is just a tiny hop of a pond likes for sure, No,
they like they are. So they are absolutely in the
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same networks because they are preaching very similar ideology. Um
back to the back, back to the d L quote.
They often claim that Jews today worship Satan and that
the Star of David represents the devil uh. The new
i FB doctrine promotes the notion of an Antichrist whom
they claim will be Jewish. In their sermons, various new
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various New i FB pastors often openly state that they
hate Judaism as a religion, and in addition to criticizing Judaism,
many New i FB pastors also promote anti Semitic tropes
about Jewish power and control over sectors like finance, news, media,
and journalism. New i FB pastors have also promoted Holocaust denial.
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In pastor Steven Anderson presented a number of false claims
in a video specifically addressing the so called quote Holocaust
hoax unquote, saying the numbers don't add up, the facts
don't add up. Um. Anderson alleged that quote some Jews
were among the many quote casualties on both sides uh
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did matter, but he blamed those deaths on starvation and
poor conditions, claiming that quote just because people were rounded
up and putting for slabor camps does not mean that
they were systematically exterminated or cremated to the tune of
six million unquote. Unlike many in the evangelical movement. New
I f B churches are staunchly anti Zionist and anti
Israel dated christ Zionism as quote jew worship unquote, and
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view the traditional support for Israel among Evangelical Christians as
a result of Jewish deception in support of the anti christ.
But they have a ton of opinions about the sinking
of the U. S. S. Liberty in line with their
broader anti Simmitic use of Judaism as a false and
evil religion. The modern nation of Israel is regularly characterized
as wicked and a fraud unquote. And they do not
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dislike Israel because Israel commits genocide against Palestinian people. Because
as you say that, they're very pro genocide as a concept. Yeah,
and to be honest, probably pretty pro genice side of
the Palestinian people. Yeah, they just not that way. Yeah.
So that's a little a little right up on what
this network of churches believes. Like everyone you heard talk
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talk inside the Sodomite Deception trailer is part of this
network of churches. Um, they're all across the South, some
of their and some of summer in like California, Arizona, Idaho, oh, Oklahoma, Texas,
you know, lots of other Southern states, and if you
want to carry out a sodomite deception, tape your drugs
to your junk when you drive through Texas. So thankfully,
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churches like these are not standing unopposed. Specifically in the
Dallas Fort Worth area, there has been a number of
protests at the church's old location, which resulted in them
getting evicted, and protests at their new location. I'm gonna
place some audio from from protests that have taken taken
place over the course of the past few weeks. We're
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here to protest that has Baptist charges to the registered
hate group here in Texas on spl center dot org.
We protested them and hearst for nine months. We found
them here and so we are back every Wednesday and
every Sunday. I am a mom of a kid from
the LGBTQ community, and I am not going to stand
(35:21):
for you wishing death upon my kid just because of
who he is and who knows. It's extremely exhausting, um,
but at the same time, it's very reassuring because we
get nothing but support from the people on the street
to drive by and give us plenty of homs and waves,
and it's just so much love and support from the
people that live in the community here as well as first,
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that's my city, so it's very personal. And I've noticed
that we've gotten a lot of new people come out
here because this is their city and it's personal for them.
So that's that's pretty good to hear that there's actually
people standing up to to say, hey, these guys suck
in person. UH, They're all they should be more people
going in person because once you like, the church is
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obviously facing a lot of a lot of conversations like
online and stuff, right, they're facing a lot of online pushback,
but once you bring it into the real world, it
definitely it's a totally different thing in terms of how
how they're being viewed. I mean, in some ways, you know,
they enjoy being persecuted, right, they enjoy the notion of
Christian persecution. But also it's great to have, you know,
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people we having pride flags outside their little church every Sunday. UM.
The church still has an active Instagram page UM and
still has a Twitter account, but their actual tweets do
keep getting taken down for hate speech. UM. A week ago,
YouTube striked UH Steadfast's main channel where they post videos
(36:47):
and sermons as they weren't able to use their main
channel on Facebook, then began promoting their second YouTube channel
as a platform to stream their murderous anti gay hate
sermons during Pride Month, and a few days after I
posted about that on Twitter, their secondary YouTube got completely banned,
and then after a few days their Facebook page was
also taken down. So they are they do have, they
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do have a shrinking online presence. There's this other clip
from the Sodamite Deception trailer that I think really gives
you a peek into the minds of these folks who
are pushing this sort of stuff. Um. And you can
even see this the same sentiment uh in the rise
of white nationalism and supremacy this past a decade. And
my question is why are we embracing all this change
(37:31):
as Christians to the Bible change. The Bible radically changed
ten years ago, Mike King, James, Bible hasn't changed. The
word lincey was translated in sixteen eleven, period, So where
in the world is everything changing. It's not from gol,
that's for sure. You know what's coming from the working
of Satan. The deceiving people thinking all it's normal now.
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So our our challenge, as people who are you know,
anti fascists, people who stand against you know or anti racist,
push back against this type of anti queer um organizing
our Our our challenge is to keep the change coming
and to push back against these freaks trying to hold
onto the twentieth century right. The fear of change and
(38:17):
the fear of the future is driving their you know,
desire to return to the past. The train of like
social progress was moving forward over the course of the
past twenty years, and they're scared and they're trying to
stop it and move it backwards. And it's up to
us to make that as hard as possible. Um. But yeah,
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that is that is my that is my stuff on
on Steadfast Church. I'm now going to open up, open
up the floor to anyone. Robert Chris, What do you
guys think of all of the stuff we just heard
about the past thirty minutes. One of the keys is
you want to use tape that has a good level
(38:59):
of it he Asian, but it isn't going to actually
damage your skin really, Yeah, like tape, what are we
doing here? Scotch tape will do. Okay, you really want
to avoid duct tape, but something like painters tape generally
isn't going to have the adhesion that you need. Um,
it's gonna be a little bit unpleasant anytime you're taking
tape off of And I do recommend actually putting it
like more in the taint area or the inner thigh.
(39:21):
You're gonna have a better better experience. You might want
to shave that inner thigh if you're not somebody who
does normally, just so that you have a better time
getting your drugs free. But you know, crotch it. That's
always been my motto. Just crotch it again. Great, great, great,
great Texas insight coming coming out of Robert Evans here. No,
I mean, like, okay, so seriously, the fact that there's
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been resistance to these folks in the street, um, and
that it's been significant that they've like not just people
showing up to yell at them, approach them in the moment,
but people you know, working to get them kicked out
of their locations and stuff. Um, that's really good. Um.
And that's that's honestly more the Texas that I have
(40:04):
known than or at least it's as much of the
Texas that I've known as like the shitty things that
this says about Texas. Um. First protest I ever went
to was against a church like this who you've probably
heard of, the Westboro Baptist Church, when they showed up
to protest at the Holocaust Museum. Uh um. And it
(40:26):
was like like a whole hundreds of people showed up
to like and there were like six of those fuckers. Um. So,
I mean, the problem with Texas has never been that, Um,
there aren't a lot of awesome people in Texas. It's
that folks like this, these who really want to use
the mechanisms of the state to carry out a genocide,
(40:46):
have a lot of friends in high places, and many
of those folks spent decades ensharing that it's basically impossible
for anybody else to win election outside of like you know,
localctions and cities and stuff, which often city governments in Texas. Again,
if you look at a lot of the the reaction
to Abbot's anti trans bills and and where will be
(41:08):
sort of the the actual resistance is Texas is anti
gay legislation gets more extreme, um. Is in cities like Dallaston,
Austin and Houston, and it is like local laws and
local local elected leaders as well as local activists who
represent an awful lot of Texas. But and you know,
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don't have any real power in the levers of the state.
But do you tend to stand up and in a
lot of cases like people did for some of these
these events in Dallas recently put their bodies, you know,
in between fascists and the people are threatening. And I
mean the new I F. B churches are definitely probably
more extreme, more explicit than most of your average Christian churches.
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But it is not uncommon to preach this general strain
of homophobia. Maybe it turned down like one not of
the dial from the pulpit in the majority of of
of churches, specifically in the South. Um, yeah, we should
be lighting these people against wall and killing them. But
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you say that, you know, this is not biblical. You
know we're supposed to live in a biblical society. And
you say everything, but that last like ten or yeah,
it's that it is. It is not like this strain
of homophobia is has been there this this entire time. Um,
(42:35):
and people of I feel like they have permission to
say things now that they honestly wouldn't probably wouldn't have
said as explicitly like five years ago. Um, but there
was there's always been people working to keep this thing
within the culture. As as stuff was progressing socially, there
was people working to keep this type of bigotry still
(42:55):
alive in large sectors of the American public. And a
lot of those sectors are related to Evangelical Christianity, and
a lot of those sectors are really related to the
communities around church building. So that's like a big part
and how Christian fascism has been so effective the past
that you know, like the basically the past decades, starting
starting with the Tea Party, is that they've had people
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with vested interests like keeping this stuff afloat. I mean, uh,
Lips of TikTok receives her funding from Seth Dillon, the
guy who runs The Babylon b which started as a
Christian satire site. Um like now Elon Musk's favorite place
on the Internet, which is wild, I mean, but but yeah,
like like you know, like I I remember reading The
Babylon B when I was like fucking twelve years old,
(43:42):
when I was like a Christian kid, like I it
was just like like It used to be just a small,
niche Christian site, and now it grew into this you know,
big powerful force in a modern conservatism. It is directly
funding lips of TikTok, which is basically now just a
gun that gets pointed at whatever, you know, target the
event that that they want. So it's now it's like
(44:03):
this completely like AstroTurf thing with all of this funding
and people choosing what events to target. So like it
all goes back to this, It all goes back to
these types of churches and this type of this type
of rhetoric coming out of you know, these few misinterpreted
biblical passages. It is weird, how Like I mean, when
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I was, you know, a teenager, when you talked about
like Christian entertainment, Christian comedy, Christian music, Christian media, you
meant like the most boring milktoast ship and the planet.
Like not that there wasn't toxic and hateful ship within
being preached to churches, but like Christian media was like
(44:44):
it was pretty hard to be offended and most of it.
And now when you say that, like you immediately go
to like, oh, yeah, somebody's trying to get gay people murdered. Um. Yeah,
it's something else. Yeah, there's been a large increase in
the militancy of Christian propaganda and posing. You know, stuff
that used to be just very like very boring milk
(45:04):
like milk toast and like still very like you know, patriarchal, heteronormative,
you know, probably low key white supremacist um. Is now Yeah,
now lots of the propaganda is way more focused in
this type of like militant Christianity um and focused on
you know all all of like the end times stuff
has gotten so much more more of a thing um
(45:28):
and just how it relates to like physical violence against
currently living people anyway. Yeah, that's the that's the Steadfast
Baptist Church and the Sadamite deception um. Brought to you
by people out of Dallas. So yeah, those are my
those are my two episodes. I mean we started first
(45:49):
episode this week was part one. Last episode this week
is part two, so they're spread out, but those are
those are my two two episodes on the City of
the Homophobia and Christian Fascism inside the City of Hate. Look,
if you want to help out, find the addresses of
one of these churches. Now, the next thing you're gonna
(46:11):
do is you're going to find a good Torrent client
and you're going to download a DVD rip of Morbius.
There's a lot of them out there. Then you're gonna
burn that. You may need to buy a burner. It's
a lot of people aren't gonna have this equipment. But
you're gonna burn that onto a DVD. You can also
put it on a flash drive if you really wanted.
And then you're just gonna start mailing those in mass
to the church. If we get them enough copies of Morbius,
(46:34):
I think we might be able to turn them around.
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