April 18, 2025 • 40 mins
The gang talks about concentration camps in El Salvador, an ICE arrest of another green card holder, and RFK Jr.’s autism eugenics. Plus updates on tariffs and DOGE.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Cool media.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
This is it could happen here. Executive Disorder, our weekly
newscast covering what's happening in the White House, the crumbling world,
and what it means for you. I'm Garrison Davis today.
I'm joined by doctor James's Stout and Reverend doctor the
Honorable Robert Evans.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
That's right. Hmm, that's right, Reverend doctor the honorable Evans,
who is currently hacking up a fucking lung. Uh, no idea,
Why I feel otherwise fine?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Well, I'm sure you feel otherwise fine due to this
great week in American history we've all been through together, yeah,
which started with a meeting between President Donald Trump and
El Salvador President Bukelea on Monday morning in the Oval Office,
where they discussed the possibility of the United States helping
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to build more Seacott style facilities to disappear US citizens
and immigrant that the Trump administration deems criminals or terrorists.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yes, I mean, I keep getting asked, is this the
panic moment? And I don't think panic is particularly productive,
but like, yeah, this is the worst case scenario. The
worst case scenario is happening. The President's talking about sending
citizens overseas, to a concentration camp. Honestly, I'm on the
verge of thinking it's okay to call it a death camp,
but we just don't have the data yet. There's some
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very concerning satellite shots that appear to show piles of bodies.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, that's from March of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, but it won't have gotten.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Better no, no, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
So I don't know. This is about as bad as
it could be, folks, We're in it.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
During that meeting, both President Bukeley and and the Trump
cabinet argue that there is simply no way for people
sent to see God to ever return to the United States,
coming up with a whole bunch of absurd, obsurd reasons
for why that is that is impossible due to due
to foremol and safety of both Al Salvador and the
United States. Me and James did a whole episode on
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this earlier this week that you can check out on
the It could Happen here feed. I'm gonna move on
to an update on the student crackdowns. So ICE has
targeted a third Green card holder for deportation based on
pro Palestinian activism. Mohsen Matuwi is a Palestinian from the
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West Bank who has lived in the US with a
green card for a decade while studying philosophy at Columbia.
He co founded the Columbia Palestinian Student Union in twenty
twenty three with Mahmoud Khalil. Maduwi was arrested by Ice
last Monday, April fourteenth at his citizenship interview in Vermont.
Now after Khalil was arrested last month, Madowi went into
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hiding and he suspected that this citizenship interview could be
a honeypot, but decided to go anyway after waiting a
long time for this point meant, his lawyers quickly filed
a habeas corpus petition arguing his detentions unlawful and Violet's
First Amendment. A US district judge issued an order hours
later that he was quote not to be removed from
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the United States or moved out of the territory of
the District of Vermont, pending for their order of this court.
Zionistocksing accounts targeted Marwi in recent weeks. I'm going to
play actually this two minute clip of Marwi talking. This
is from December of twenty twenty three on the program
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sixty minutes.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
What was your initial reaction when you heard about the
Hamas attack on October seventh.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
I could not believe what my eyes were seeing, where
I see Hamas members getting into settlements and so on.
But also the first moment I saw that, I put
my hand on my heart and I started praying, knowing
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that there will be a huge level of revenge from
the Israelis, and I was praying that this will not
be the result, because it would be disastrous.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
The night of the rally, I believe someone in the
crowd said something very anti Jewish, not to say anti Israeli,
but anti Jewish.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Yes, this was as a walk out on November ninth,
and a person who is not affiliated with Columbia. We've
never seen him, we don't know who is this guy
comes down down the stairs yelling death to Jews. I
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was shocked. And they walked directly to the person and
they told him you don't represent us because this is
not something that we agree with. And directly what I've done,
I tooked the megaphone and they gave a speech and
they said, we here are conscious, educated students, and we
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know how to separate right from wrong, and what this
guy has said is wrong. What this guy has said
is clearly anti sematic against Jews. Ant to be anti
Semitic is unjust, is unjust, and the fight for the
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freedom of Palestine and the fight against anti Semitism go
hand in hand because injustice anywhere is a threat to
justice everywhere.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yeah, I mean he said everything that would make him
a respectable protester, at least based on what the fucking
dims were saying last year, Like, there's nothing in there
that's pro Hamas. There's nothing in anything I can tell
this guy has done that his advocacy towards terrorism, Like
but obviously that's not what matters. What matters is they
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have the ability to get him out and they're doing
that because of his speech.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, he took a step back from protests in March
of twenty twenty four during the second wave of student
protests at Columbia.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
Yeah, and like I believe he didn't. Isn't he like
a member of the university Buddhist Club.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yes, part of why he took a step back was
to focus on his role in the Buddhist Club as
a as for I think in the past, like two
years he has been participating in that on campus. Yeah,
he told CBS News the day before he was detained. Quote,
if my story will become another story for the struggle
to have justice and democracy in this country, let it
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be unquote like other students who've been targeted and arrested.
He has not been charged or accused of any crime,
but the State Department has deemed him a threat to
foreign policy.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Yeah. Hot to see how but I think as we're
seeing it, that doesn't really matter.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Now, last Friday, a Louisiana judge ruled in favor of
the Trump administration to allow the deportation of Mahmoud Khalil,
upholding the government's argument that the rarely used Cold War
era statute of the Immigration and Nationality Act allows for
the Secretary of State to deport aliens that pose quote
adverse foreign policy consequences. The only quote unquote evidence presented
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in court was a two page memo written by Mark
Rubio that alleges that Khalil's presence in the country threatens
quote US policy. Had to come by anti semitism around
the world and in the United States, based on information
provided by the DHS, ICE and Homeland security investigations regarding
the participation and rules of Khalil in anti Semitic protests
and disruptive actions which foster a hostile environment for Jewish
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students in the United States unquote. So there's no real
evidence in this document. It is just Mark Rubio's opinion
for two pages, and this is the only evidence that
ever has been held in court that resulted in the
judge ruling in the government's favor.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
A lot of what we're seeing here is the natural
conclusion to what was happening with like Dance last year
talking about Haitian immigrants and admitting like, yeah, it's not
literally true, but like it's true to how we feel.
So it's like fine for us to spread this lie.
Like they're just declaring these people terrorists and even attempting
to get evidence for that claim, like they certainly have
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no need to. And the media that like I'm seeing
coverage on Fox particularly that's just repeatedly framing this as
like the left is angry that like a terrorist got deborded, right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, I mean this is the same stuff that we
saw at the RNC where they referred to students as terrorists,
like just completely completely flattened. Like every single person at
a college campus who is upset about a genocide or
criticizes the state of Israel, that person is a terrorist.
Lawyers for Khalil have until April twenty third to file
an appeal to the deportation, and they plan to file
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an asylum case on his behalf. A separate habeas petition
case is playing out in a New Jersey court. This week,
NBC News reviewed over one hundred pages of documents from
the federal government and Khalil's legal team containing information about
his immigration process, work experience, and activism. These documents showed
that the government used unverified tabloid reporting against Khalil and
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contained contradictory information yep, so, essentially using New York Post
style publications as a pretext for ICE to execute arrests
against people who are Green card holders, legal permanent residents
of the United States. We're going to go on break
and come back to talk about Robert F. Kennedy Junior.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Finally, finally, something fun.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
All right, we're back. I'm gonna throw to Robert Evans
for an update on everyone's favorite roadkill consumer.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Yes, yes, RFK Junior. He's not just strapping the carcass
of a dead whale to the head of his truck
and driving down the highway. Now he is while kind
of launching a genocidal campaign against people with autism.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Kind of doing a national eugenics program.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Yeah, kind of calling a large group of people in
this country useless eaters.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Jesus Christ. Yeah. Fuck.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
And the gist of what's happening is they just had
a new quote unquote study come out that looked at
like apparently rising autism rates. And again I've covered this
a lot. The reason why rates of autism are increasing
every credible scientist degrees is because we're looking for it
more and so we're finding more of it and we
have a broader understanding of what it is. RFK Junior
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is obsessed with the idea, the image of autism as
a disease that is spreading due to an environmental contagion,
and he is trying to make the case that this
is a calamity. He has promised. The most recent promise
he made is that by September the government will release
exhaustive studies that will identify the environmental causes of autism.
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And he made a statement autism destroys families. More importantly,
it destroys our greatest resource, which is our children. These
are children who should not be suffering like this. He
is called autism a preventable disease, which it is not.
While there is evidence that some of the factors that
can be relevant in autism expressing are environmental, the vast
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majority of it seems to be genetic. There's no evidence,
and there have been repeated studies there has anything to
do with vaccines. He's positive a couple of other theories
as to what causes it, including mold and diet, and
these are largely based on what are already kind of quack,
both autism treatments and quack autism causes that are popular
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within the biomedical movement bare metal biomedical movement, which is
the fake autism medical industrial complex that we covered recently
on the Behind the Bastards. One of the things I
think is really worrying about the language that Kennedy is
using is how similar it sounds to a lot of
what you were seeing in the early nineteen thirties out
of the Nazi state, what we know of as the Holocaust,
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which is generally a term generally primarily when people use
that term. They are talking about the mass killing of
Jews and other ethnic minorities in Central Europe by the
Nazi state. That got a lot of its start, and
there's a couple of different places got it start. Obviously,
the wild concentration camps and the political concentration camps are
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in that heritage. When it comes to the actual mass
killing of people, the very origin of that was in
getting rid of the disabled. Right. The term that was
used in Nazi propaganda for these people was useless eaters.
And this is the first time that the Nazis tested
out gassing right in large numbers. And he hasn't used
literally the term useless eaters, but he talks a lot about.
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One of the terms he uses is severe autism, right,
which is not the term that is popularly used now
for people who have kind of profound autism. I think
is the preferred term for people who do have a
significantly higher degree of like disability as a result of
their autism or that correlates with their autism, right, as
opposed to the vast majority of people who can be
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diagnosed to somewhere on the spectrum who are able to
live independently. Right and Kennedy sort of does the thing
that is very common within this community of sort of
number one, correlating that to everybody with autism and talking
about it as if it is a disaster that justifies
any kind of response, because the people who have profound
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autism aren't real people in his eyes. He made a
statement quote, these are kids who will never pay taxes,
they'll never hold a job, they'll never play baseball, they'll
never write a poem, they'll never go out on a date.
Many of them will never use a toilet on assisted.
We have to recognize we are doing this to our children.
And first off, having taught a lot of kids with
profound autism, yes they could play baseball, like a number
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of them held jobs. Now do a lot of them
need assisted living? Sure, But like number one, that's always
been the case. There's no evidence that people with this
kind of autom that there's any sort of raise in
this right. What's raised is the number of people who
are being diagnosed. Right, And he's using this kind of
scare term, right, this idea that like parents, you need
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to be frightened that something is going to steal your
children from you. In order to justify the dehumanization of
everyone with autism, as well as radical biomedical experimental procedures
that are going to do harm at scale to lots
of kids. One of his favorite new terms is epidemic denial,
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which is the term that he's using for people who
say that, like, this is not an epidemic, this is
something that we're now screening for me more, he's kind
of kind of repurposing the language of like vaccine denial
and whatnot as like a denial that this is sort
of an immediate crisis that needs to be hit, which
I find interesting.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Also like co opting like COVID conscious language.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
Yeah, yeah, I think the way he and his group
were referred to during COVID he's now using in the
same fashion.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Yeah, And it's interesting. His initial promise was that like,
by September, will know why autism rates are on the rise.
That's not really a thing. You can't make science work
that way, Like you can't guarantee that.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
Like you said, we already know because people are seeking
out diagnoses.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Like because right, we have better awareness of it now.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
But he's kind of altered that recently, being like, no,
we'll have some answers by September, and you know, We're
gonna get those answers by removing the taboo so that
doctors won't get gas lit by blaming autism on vaccines
or you know, mold exposure or the like. That's that's
what we can look forward to in the near future
from our good friend RFK Junior, who definitely doesn't pay
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taxes or write poems. I just want to make that clear.
I don't think either of those are particularly good bars
for whether or not you're a human being. But he
for sure doesn't do either.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
As frankly, I know way too many autistic people who
write poems.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Oh tons of them.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
Ys gonna say, yeah, the ring poeing things was a
really fucking.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
The poet Lauriate of Washington State since twenty twenty three
is a is a woman with autism. So yeah, like.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I writing poems nonsense, extremely common activity for my fellow ye,
my fellow autism people.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Yeah, they are okay, okay, ore FK Junior again, but
he was talking about, you know, people with what he
calls severe autism. But he also doesn't ever care to
like specify his language because there's no there's no benefit
that's a real medical yeah, and there's no benefit to
his ideology in acknowledging that, like, well, most people who
get diagnosed with autism may need some accommodations. It's a difference, right,
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It's a difference in the way your mind works. But
they're fine, Like they're living healthy, happy lives.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah, I talk slightly differently in the cool zone work chat,
which is kind of the extent of it for me, extent,
but that is an aspect. Speaking of the Department of
Health Human Services, they released a report page on their
website for you, the the vigilance citizen. Oh yes, to
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report trans miners receiving healthcare. Finally, and so an another
one of these like snitching hotlines at this time on
a federal government website that I'm sure will only get real,
real complaints sent to it, and not the B movie.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
See not repeatedly the B movie scrap.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah, speaking of trans people, I do have a few
updates on some some of the transgender stuff. During that
meeting between President Buklea and Trump, they went on a
small tangent about trans people where where Trump said that
he actually doesn't like talking about quote unquote men in
women's sports because he wants to wait and save that
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issue to use for the next election.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Amazing.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah, I'm going to play the clip, and I don't.
Speaker 7 (18:20):
Like talking about it because I want to save it
for just before the next election. I said, my people
don't even talk about it because they'll change then. Well,
but I watched this morning it was a congressman fighting
to the debt for men to play against women in sports.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
That's like super interesting, like very clear insight into how
like Trump sees like the trands of sports issue and
treats it as this like election winning superpower, and like
he certainly he is directing like the DOJ and with
his executive orders, like he still is targeting trans people,
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especially trans people against So it's not that he's treating
this as like a hands off issue to like ensure
that it can remain a hot button thing for the
next election. But I think I think in his mind,
like he doesn't want to stop Democrats from caring about
this issue in a way like like the the more
that they that they fight for it in his mind
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is like what gives him ammunition for the next election,
whether he's going to run for a third term or
just like Republicans like mega stuff in general. But I
think that it is an interesting look into like his
personal insight on this issue. Meanwhile, the Department of Justice
just announced on Wednesday, April sixteenth, that they are suing
Maine's Department of Education for not complying with Trump's anti
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trans executive order by continuing to allow trans people to
compete in sports, claiming that they are quote failing to
protect women in women's sports unquote, which which they say
violates Title nine. The suit aims to get an injunction
to force man to strip away rights from trans people
in schools, to take away two winning titles from trans
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of school athletes, and are considering to quote unquote retroactively
pull all funding that Maine has received. Maine's Attorney General,
Aaron Frey said on Wednesday, quote our position is further
bolstered by the complete lack of any legal citation supporting
the administration's position in its own complaint. While the President
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issued in executive order that reflects his own interpretations of
the law, anyone with the most basic understanding of American
civics understands that the President does not create law nor
interpret law unquote. So Maine and specifically the main governor,
are adamant that this is going to be an issue
that's only going to be settled in the courts, and
in fact challenged Trump at a recent meeting to see
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you in court over this issue. We are going to
go and break and then return to close out this
episode of executive disorder. Okay, we are back. I'm now
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gonna throw to myself and Mia to discuss the tariff
talk in a future recording.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
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Speaker 7 (21:23):
Bot, Sorry lot, Rocky jazz Bo, Rocky.
Speaker 8 (21:30):
Jazz Bob, welcome the Tariff talk, the talk where I
talk to you about the turf tariffs. So all right,
the big thing that happens last week in tariffs was
that Trump exempted smartphones and electronics. There's a whole suite
of electronics that are exempted from the one and forty
five percent turf tariffs from Liberation Day. Now, there was
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still a twenty percent tariff on all these electronic goods
from the earlier round tariffs. In one of the initial rounds,
there was a whole thing where he put a bunch
of tariffs.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I'm so confused though, because I thought that's ten percent
tariffs for non Chinese companies.
Speaker 8 (22:12):
Yeah, but okay, So here's.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
The thing, right, China like additional or no.
Speaker 8 (22:20):
Okay. So, so what's happening with these is that in
the very very first round of tariffs that went out,
there was a twenty percent tariff on all Chinese goods,
and so the Liberation Day tariffs, which and then the
subsequent retaliatory tariffs pushed.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
It pushed all goods now two hundred fifty.
Speaker 8 (22:38):
Okay, we're gonna we're gonna get two hundred fiyercent. That
the numbers bullshit, But we're at one hundred and forty
five percent like tariff from the Liberation Day stuff. But
that also had included an earlier twenty percent tariff, and
you see, you see why we're reporting about this is
so fucking hard, right, So that was stack on top
of that other tariff. So if he's removed the Liberation
Day tariffs, but there still are twenty percent tariffs on
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all like iPhones and all the electronicos that are still
in effect. So the tariff right for those goods is
now twenty instead of one hundred and forty five. But
this is where things get even more murky. So even
before the exemptions for the semiconductor stuff had been released.
Trump had been talking about imposing a bunch of tariffs,
specifically on semiconductors from all countries, which is going to like, again,
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if this is just awesome, if you want to just
kneecap your entire economy, you put in a tariff on
all semiconductors from other countries, which was what this is
looking like, it's possible the levels are going to be
that high. Anyways, It's again worth pointing out that, like,
there's a bunch of the parts of this production process
that basically can only be done in Taiwan, which will
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presumably have these new tariffs on them. We don't know
what they're gonna be yet they're coming in, who fucking knows,
But so it seems like they're these tariffs are being
withdrawn for now due to market sort of backlash, but
probably they will come back at some point in the future.
We're not We're not one hundred percent sure. There's also
another thing I want to mention, where so the number
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that you said, the two hundred and fifty percent tariff thing,
so Trump tweeted that out, but that's fake. What that
is is that there are a couple of items, and
I mean when I say a couple. I mean, like
we're talking like single digit items, like things like medical
syringes that already had like one hundred percent tariffs on them,
that the one hundred and forty five percent tariff stack
on top of all tariffs that are already in effect.
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So there's like like three or four items already had
one hundred percent tariffs on them, so when you stack
the one forty five on top of them, they're two
fifty percent. But again it's like it's like three things, right,
So like that's fake. On the other hand, like substantively,
And this is something that a lot of people have
been talking about the difference between one hundred and forty
five percent and two hundred and forty five percent, Like
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it isn't that relevant because at one hundred and forty
five percent you stop doing trading. So it's you know,
the numbers at this when I just sort of in
comedy levels. But yeah, so that's what's going on with
the two hundred and fifty number of people have been
going around from it's it's not real. It's still one
forty five for all non electronics goods twenty four electronics.
There's also been a bunch of China has been doing
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retaliatory stuff for a little bit, and they've been ramping
up this program to restrict US access to rare earth
elements that are necessary for a whole bunch of advanced engineering,
particularly sort of defense projects. This is the thing that
could genuinely devastate the American defense sector. Trump's plan for
this is that he's threatening to use the Trade Expansion
Act nineteen sixty two to impose even more devastating tariffs.
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Now it is genuinely unclear to me, Like what is
he going to do impose in one thousand percent tariff?
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Like you need to buy these goods, like you say that, Mia,
And yeah, he probably will.
Speaker 8 (25:49):
He probably will. Like two weeks ago, one thousand percent
tariffs would have been a joke, But no, they might.
They might legitimately do one thousand percent tariffs.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Why not.
Speaker 8 (25:58):
There's also been the beginnings of of on the us
ND sort of export restrictions from chip exports to China
and countries like Nvidia and AMD. And this is a
fucking big rip to the big rip to the fucking
AI people. Each hit get fucked. Yeah, so like so
that that's roughly the state of of the tariffs right now,
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more more bullshit will happen. We'll be back on Tariff
Talk next week with another round of unbelievably hideous turf
tariff shit. But I want to I want to move
on to one more thing, which is things that have
been happening at the at the NLRB. So the NLRB,
for people who are not regular listeners to the show,
is the National Labor Relations Board. They were in charge
of a whole bunch of things related to negotiations between
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employers and unions. Are the people who certify union elections,
they handle unfair labor practices disputes, and Doge effectively broke
into the NLRB and has seized a whole bunch of
information that they shouldn't have. NPR broke the story and
has been doing a lot of good coverage of it.
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So it came in right. They technically had some kind
of like order saying that they're supposed to be able
to come in and do this stuff. And they set
up and they disable all of the security stuff and
all of the sort of like logs and all the
sort of stuff that's supposed to like verify what someone's
doing on a computer system, they go in and disable all
of them, They delete all traces of what they do.
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And this is a big deal because the NLRB has
a lot of extremely sensitive data, has extremely sensitive data
on unions, It has a lot of extremely sensitive trade
data on private companies. Now, the NLRB person who blew
the whistle on this to NPR described how so he
complains about to his superiors about Doge again just like
sort of breaking into this fucking like office and just
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like stealing all of this data. Because he mean, so
he notices this program that they're building that's literally just
called like backdoor, which is like again, what you would
do if you were literally running a hack, right, And
we'll come back to in a second. So the NLOP
person complains to a superior so like, hey, these DOSE
people are just like stealing all of the data from
this And then like the next day, someone from Doge
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tapes to his door pictures of him and his dogs
with like a threatening thing on it, like drone footage
of him and his dog like walking, which is so
fucking weird. I don't even know, I don't even so, yeah,
that's that's extremely alarming. This is this is they're they're
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just blatantly threatening a whistleblower. Yeah. So so the other
reason that this is really concerning is that so a
lot of the corporate media is focused on the fact
that there's a lot of trade information in there, there's
also a lot of very personal information about unions, about
union strength, about size, about tactics, about the history of
negotiating things about just where unions are and who's in them.
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And it's it's deeply unclear what DOGE is going to
do with this information. But it's not good. And again,
and I need to emphasize this. So I talked to
friend of the show, oh Maya Arson crime w about this,
who is someone who knows a lot about hacking, And
I said to it, okay, so this is what you
would do if you were if you were just straight
up like hacking the NLRB, right, like, these are the
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things you would do, And they went, yeah, pretty much.
So it's great, it's great. Yeah, the dose are just
stolen a bunch of information. Who knows what's gonna happen
to it. Who knows what's gonna happen with their escalation
of attacks on whistleblowers. But things bad, things continue to
go bad.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Well, thank you for that uplifting story, Miya about Doge
breaking into and stealing data from the NLRB and posting
overhead drone photos of people's houses who threatened the Doge supremacy.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
We're back, Thank you, Future Garrison and future Miya. So
it's my role here to update you on the Board
of Fashion, and that's what I'm here to do.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
Where I want to start this week is in the
Roosevelt Reservation.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
This is something that's been reported on a little bit.
Speaker 6 (30:08):
It's largely by people who maybe only found out about
it this week and looked at a Wikipedia page then
it wrote a story. The Roosevelt Reservation is a sixty
foot easement that runs along the southwestern border of the
United States from the coast in San Diego or the
way to New Mexico.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Doesn't cover the Texas border.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
I've written about it before for the Sierra Club and
for Drilled News four or five years ago, and I'm
going to include a link to the Sierra Club piece
in the show notes that Drill pieces down now they
don't have that print side anymore. It was established in
nineteen oh seven by Teddy Roosevelt and It was transferred
for three years from the Department of the Interior Department
of Defense by the Trump administration in twenty nineteen using
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an executive order this year in twenty twenty five, all
of the Roosevelt Reservation that is not part of federal
reservation land was placed on the Department of Defense jurisdiction.
A lot of reports seems to have missed this exemption
for federal reservation land, which makes up a significant part
of the border, especially in Arizona right in the Tornad Reservation.
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I'm going to quote from the language of the executive
order here quote to provide for the use and jurisdiction
by the Department events over such federal lands, including the
Roosevelt Reservation, and excluding Federal Indian reservations that are reasonably
necessary to enable military activities directed in this memorandum, including
border barrier construction and emplacement of detection and monitoring equipment.
(31:33):
The way I read this, it also doesn't limit to
the reserve reservation. It seems to include other federal land right,
which could include National monuments, National Parks BLM, and the
National Forests, all of which exist along the border. The
Trump administration this week also obtained waivers. The waivers wave
dozens of laws that have been limiting construction in the
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San Diego sector. I'd like to quote a little bit
from that Sierra Club piece that I wrote, because I
think the aspect of the damage done to the sacred
space of Indigenous people is being completely overlooked by the
legacy media.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
In this not.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
Perhaps surprisingly so, one of the law's waved with a
Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act. The Native American
Graves Protection and Repatriation Act was enacted by Congress in
nineteen ninety to protect and safely relocate Native burial sites.
When construction takes place on sensitive sites, the tribing question
should be consulted, and in the event remains or other
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archaeological objects are found, construction should be altered so as
not to disturb the site. In the areas of San
Diego where they are digging, what's called midden soil has
been found mid and soil is soil that contains evidence
of cremated human remains. Right in this case of Kumii people.
With this waver, they don't have to comply with NAGPRO
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Native American Graves Protection and Relocation Act, which means that
they can continue digging through what are literally people's ancestors graveyards.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Quote from that twenty twenty story.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
If this were another country's government destroying a region's holy land,
the US would go to war and the people would
feel it justified, activist Thomas barbatod Sierra. But it happens
here at home, in front of us, and we just
turn away.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Yep, we sure do a turn away.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
It seems to be most of what we do these days.
Speaker 6 (33:18):
Yeah, it's not even what bugs me. It's like, not
so much of folks, you know, not doing anything. I
get that it's overwhelming horrible at the moment. It's that
this doesn't even get reported. Yeah, big outlets with a
massive budget, who are supposed to have a border reporter
who's never fucking set foot on the border, doesn't take
the time to talk to the indigenous people whose land
the border crossed, right, Like, doesn't take the time to
(33:40):
hear their concerns, doesn't take the time to think about
when you dig thirty feet into this ground to build
your border wall, that's twelve thousand years of someone's history.
How do they feel about that? And like that is
a failing of the legacy media. It has been a
failing for a long time, and it will continue to
be for a long time, and piss.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Me off, YEP.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
I guess to talk more broadly than about this militarization
of the Roosevelt Reservation and other public land. There's been
some speculation about what this might mean. I don't think
that you're going to see soldiers pointing their guns at
the southern border and shooting anyone who comes across. I
do think it's likely a lot of the people who
have been deployed to southern border so far at MPs
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military police right, and it's possible that those MPs will
be able to detain people and potentially charge and with
trespassing on a military installation. That would just be another
string to the bow of their attempt to rapidly deport people,
because they already have many other kind of options through
executive order of doing that which which.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
They're a really implying right.
Speaker 6 (34:45):
It might also make it easier for them to waive
some of these other laws and to construct more surveillance equipment.
In the Ebrogogacia case, which we've covered for several weeks now,
the Supreme Court has unanimously asked to the United States
government to quote facilitate his return. The US government has
(35:06):
embarked upon a unique definition of the word facilitate, which
it feels like means allowing him to enter the country
and providing transport if El Salvador releases him. Bukelly refused
to release him, saying that doing so would be to
quote smuggler terrorists into the United States. Garrison and I
did a whole episode about this yesterday that you can
listen to. Today, Senator Chris van Holland went to San Salvador, right,
(35:32):
capital of El Salbador if you're not where, he met
with the Vice president because Bukele is still out the country.
Van Holdend held the press conference right afterwards that I
watched for it before we recorded this. In the press conference,
Van Holland basically said that he asserted to the Vice
President of El Salbador there was no evidence nor any
conviction of being a member of MS thirteen, and he
(35:53):
asked the VP why he was holding mister Abrego Gussier,
and the VP said, because the US is paying us
to home.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Yeah, which yeah, they won't even lie.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Yeah, no, he's not lying. That's why they're doing it.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
I believe that.
Speaker 6 (36:06):
Yeah, and credit to this Maryland senator, like being the
only one to do something, and it's not enough, and
it's just one person. There are three hundred people there, right,
They're not even going for the hundreds of other innocent
people are there. It's one guy, but at least he's
doing something. The rest of the Democrats collectively, Yeah, I
don't know, like voting for Trump's nominees. He asked to
(36:29):
meet with mister Abrego Garcia and was told that they
needed more time. He said, I'll come back next week.
They said they don't know if they can organize it
in a week. He asked if he could call him.
They said they didn't know if they could facilitate a call.
They said maybe the US embassy would have to be
the one that requests that. So he has now requested
that the embassy requests that he be allowed to call
mister Abrego Garcia and mister Brego Garcia be allowed to
(36:49):
speak to his wife. Garreton and I spoke about how
like it's not in the interest of government at El
salbad Or to have people leave this prison and testify
it to the conditions that are in it.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
No one has ever left this prison that we're aware of.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yeah, that no one who's been detained there has left.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
The government wouldn't give him a date when he could
meet mister Abergo Garcia or when he would be likely
able to make a call.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
And a separate case, Judge Boseburg.
Speaker 6 (37:15):
Who we've spoken about before as well, Right, Judge Bothberg,
with the judge issues's attentive restraining order on the rendition
of people to l Salbador, which the government then ignored,
has found probable cause that the administration is in contempt
of court.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
What does this mean?
Speaker 6 (37:31):
It doesn't mean, despite what you have seen on your timeline,
that this will mean these people will be bought home.
When they found a contempt, they have two options. Right,
they can purge themselves of the contempt, and the way
they would do that would be by providing habeas not
by bringing all these people home, at least not yet right.
Or they could present the people who are responsible and
(37:54):
then either an attorney could be appointed by the DOJ
to prosecute them, I guess and don't quite know how
that works since or the judge himself point and attorney
to prosecute them for criminal contempt. Again like at least
the guys try and I guess.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Like no, I mean, like I got nothing to say
against him right now, Like this is what they all
should be doing. He went there, he said something, and
he's not mincing his words. He's saying that this man
was disappeared.
Speaker 6 (38:16):
No, yeah, and he's he's asserting that, like they need
to listen to the court. They are supposed to listen
to the court. Judge genez In genez who is a
judge on the district court that had its case sent
to the Supreme Court for review in the Abrego Garcia incident,
also quoted to Merriam Webster Dictionary and said that the
government's understanding of the word facility flew in the face
(38:38):
of the common understanding.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Of the word.
Speaker 6 (38:40):
Again, like I've seen it asserted, like, oh, legal experts
can disagree. Meanwhile, you've got the actual judge in the
actual case being like, notice is what the dictionary says.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Your definition is ludicrous.
Speaker 6 (38:49):
I would caution people to be very careful looking at
at like blue check legal experts on except com or
people on blue Sky. There has been so much misleading
stuff about immigration law and the laws in these particular
two cases and they are about the resot reservation. Actually,
just be really careful where you're getting your information, especially
(39:12):
on immigration law from maybe go back and check what
that person was doing in twenty twenty three when thousands
of migrants were detained in outdoor detention camps. Because I've
seen so much misinformation and people, understandably who aren't expert
in this, because it's extremely complicated, are likely to be
taken advantage of by people who are grifting off what
is at a moment when a lot of us are
(39:33):
afraid and a lot of us are insertain, to be
very careful what you're reading out there.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
All right, I think that's all for us today on
It could Happen Here?
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Yeah, I think that's our new rectiled executive dysfunction episode.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
At Rectile Order.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
All right, Well, we're fucking done, go away.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
We reported the news.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
We reported the news.
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
This is it could happen here. Executive Disorder, our weekly
newscast covering what's happening in the White House, the crumbling world,
and what it means for you. I'm Garrison Davis today.
I'm joined by doctor James's Stout and Reverend doctor the
Honorable Robert Evans.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
That's right. Hmm, that's right, Reverend doctor the honorable Evans,
who is currently hacking up a fucking lung. Uh, no idea,
Why I feel otherwise fine?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Well, I'm sure you feel otherwise fine due to this
great week in American history we've all been through together, yeah,
which started with a meeting between President Donald Trump and
El Salvador President Bukelea on Monday morning in the Oval Office,
where they discussed the possibility of the United States helping
(00:54):
to build more Seacott style facilities to disappear US citizens
and immigrant that the Trump administration deems criminals or terrorists.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yes, I mean, I keep getting asked, is this the
panic moment? And I don't think panic is particularly productive,
but like, yeah, this is the worst case scenario. The
worst case scenario is happening. The President's talking about sending
citizens overseas, to a concentration camp. Honestly, I'm on the
verge of thinking it's okay to call it a death camp,
but we just don't have the data yet. There's some
(01:25):
very concerning satellite shots that appear to show piles of bodies.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, that's from March of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, but it won't have gotten.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Better no, no, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
So I don't know. This is about as bad as
it could be, folks, We're in it.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
During that meeting, both President Bukeley and and the Trump
cabinet argue that there is simply no way for people
sent to see God to ever return to the United States,
coming up with a whole bunch of absurd, obsurd reasons
for why that is that is impossible due to due
to foremol and safety of both Al Salvador and the
United States. Me and James did a whole episode on
(02:06):
this earlier this week that you can check out on
the It could Happen here feed. I'm gonna move on
to an update on the student crackdowns. So ICE has
targeted a third Green card holder for deportation based on
pro Palestinian activism. Mohsen Matuwi is a Palestinian from the
(02:27):
West Bank who has lived in the US with a
green card for a decade while studying philosophy at Columbia.
He co founded the Columbia Palestinian Student Union in twenty
twenty three with Mahmoud Khalil. Maduwi was arrested by Ice
last Monday, April fourteenth at his citizenship interview in Vermont.
Now after Khalil was arrested last month, Madowi went into
(02:51):
hiding and he suspected that this citizenship interview could be
a honeypot, but decided to go anyway after waiting a
long time for this point meant, his lawyers quickly filed
a habeas corpus petition arguing his detentions unlawful and Violet's
First Amendment. A US district judge issued an order hours
later that he was quote not to be removed from
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the United States or moved out of the territory of
the District of Vermont, pending for their order of this court.
Zionistocksing accounts targeted Marwi in recent weeks. I'm going to
play actually this two minute clip of Marwi talking. This
is from December of twenty twenty three on the program
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sixty minutes.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
What was your initial reaction when you heard about the
Hamas attack on October seventh.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
I could not believe what my eyes were seeing, where
I see Hamas members getting into settlements and so on.
But also the first moment I saw that, I put
my hand on my heart and I started praying, knowing
(04:03):
that there will be a huge level of revenge from
the Israelis, and I was praying that this will not
be the result, because it would be disastrous.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
The night of the rally, I believe someone in the
crowd said something very anti Jewish, not to say anti Israeli,
but anti Jewish.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Yes, this was as a walk out on November ninth,
and a person who is not affiliated with Columbia. We've
never seen him, we don't know who is this guy
comes down down the stairs yelling death to Jews. I
(04:49):
was shocked. And they walked directly to the person and
they told him you don't represent us because this is
not something that we agree with. And directly what I've done,
I tooked the megaphone and they gave a speech and
they said, we here are conscious, educated students, and we
(05:12):
know how to separate right from wrong, and what this
guy has said is wrong. What this guy has said
is clearly anti sematic against Jews. Ant to be anti
Semitic is unjust, is unjust, and the fight for the
(05:36):
freedom of Palestine and the fight against anti Semitism go
hand in hand because injustice anywhere is a threat to
justice everywhere.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yeah, I mean he said everything that would make him
a respectable protester, at least based on what the fucking
dims were saying last year, Like, there's nothing in there
that's pro Hamas. There's nothing in anything I can tell
this guy has done that his advocacy towards terrorism, Like
but obviously that's not what matters. What matters is they
(06:09):
have the ability to get him out and they're doing
that because of his speech.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, he took a step back from protests in March
of twenty twenty four during the second wave of student
protests at Columbia.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
Yeah, and like I believe he didn't. Isn't he like
a member of the university Buddhist Club.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yes, part of why he took a step back was
to focus on his role in the Buddhist Club as
a as for I think in the past, like two
years he has been participating in that on campus. Yeah,
he told CBS News the day before he was detained. Quote,
if my story will become another story for the struggle
to have justice and democracy in this country, let it
(06:46):
be unquote like other students who've been targeted and arrested.
He has not been charged or accused of any crime,
but the State Department has deemed him a threat to
foreign policy.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Yeah. Hot to see how but I think as we're
seeing it, that doesn't really matter.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Now, last Friday, a Louisiana judge ruled in favor of
the Trump administration to allow the deportation of Mahmoud Khalil,
upholding the government's argument that the rarely used Cold War
era statute of the Immigration and Nationality Act allows for
the Secretary of State to deport aliens that pose quote
adverse foreign policy consequences. The only quote unquote evidence presented
(07:26):
in court was a two page memo written by Mark
Rubio that alleges that Khalil's presence in the country threatens
quote US policy. Had to come by anti semitism around
the world and in the United States, based on information
provided by the DHS, ICE and Homeland security investigations regarding
the participation and rules of Khalil in anti Semitic protests
and disruptive actions which foster a hostile environment for Jewish
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students in the United States unquote. So there's no real
evidence in this document. It is just Mark Rubio's opinion
for two pages, and this is the only evidence that
ever has been held in court that resulted in the
judge ruling in the government's favor.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
A lot of what we're seeing here is the natural
conclusion to what was happening with like Dance last year
talking about Haitian immigrants and admitting like, yeah, it's not
literally true, but like it's true to how we feel.
So it's like fine for us to spread this lie.
Like they're just declaring these people terrorists and even attempting
to get evidence for that claim, like they certainly have
(08:26):
no need to. And the media that like I'm seeing
coverage on Fox particularly that's just repeatedly framing this as
like the left is angry that like a terrorist got deborded, right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, I mean this is the same stuff that we
saw at the RNC where they referred to students as terrorists,
like just completely completely flattened. Like every single person at
a college campus who is upset about a genocide or
criticizes the state of Israel, that person is a terrorist.
Lawyers for Khalil have until April twenty third to file
an appeal to the deportation, and they plan to file
(09:02):
an asylum case on his behalf. A separate habeas petition
case is playing out in a New Jersey court. This week,
NBC News reviewed over one hundred pages of documents from
the federal government and Khalil's legal team containing information about
his immigration process, work experience, and activism. These documents showed
that the government used unverified tabloid reporting against Khalil and
(09:24):
contained contradictory information yep, so, essentially using New York Post
style publications as a pretext for ICE to execute arrests
against people who are Green card holders, legal permanent residents
of the United States. We're going to go on break
and come back to talk about Robert F. Kennedy Junior.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Finally, finally, something fun.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
All right, we're back. I'm gonna throw to Robert Evans
for an update on everyone's favorite roadkill consumer.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Yes, yes, RFK Junior. He's not just strapping the carcass
of a dead whale to the head of his truck
and driving down the highway. Now he is while kind
of launching a genocidal campaign against people with autism.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Kind of doing a national eugenics program.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Yeah, kind of calling a large group of people in
this country useless eaters.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Jesus Christ. Yeah. Fuck.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
And the gist of what's happening is they just had
a new quote unquote study come out that looked at
like apparently rising autism rates. And again I've covered this
a lot. The reason why rates of autism are increasing
every credible scientist degrees is because we're looking for it
more and so we're finding more of it and we
have a broader understanding of what it is. RFK Junior
(10:53):
is obsessed with the idea, the image of autism as
a disease that is spreading due to an environmental contagion,
and he is trying to make the case that this
is a calamity. He has promised. The most recent promise
he made is that by September the government will release
exhaustive studies that will identify the environmental causes of autism.
(11:15):
And he made a statement autism destroys families. More importantly,
it destroys our greatest resource, which is our children. These
are children who should not be suffering like this. He
is called autism a preventable disease, which it is not.
While there is evidence that some of the factors that
can be relevant in autism expressing are environmental, the vast
(11:38):
majority of it seems to be genetic. There's no evidence,
and there have been repeated studies there has anything to
do with vaccines. He's positive a couple of other theories
as to what causes it, including mold and diet, and
these are largely based on what are already kind of quack,
both autism treatments and quack autism causes that are popular
(11:58):
within the biomedical movement bare metal biomedical movement, which is
the fake autism medical industrial complex that we covered recently
on the Behind the Bastards. One of the things I
think is really worrying about the language that Kennedy is
using is how similar it sounds to a lot of
what you were seeing in the early nineteen thirties out
of the Nazi state, what we know of as the Holocaust,
(12:21):
which is generally a term generally primarily when people use
that term. They are talking about the mass killing of
Jews and other ethnic minorities in Central Europe by the
Nazi state. That got a lot of its start, and
there's a couple of different places got it start. Obviously,
the wild concentration camps and the political concentration camps are
(12:42):
in that heritage. When it comes to the actual mass
killing of people, the very origin of that was in
getting rid of the disabled. Right. The term that was
used in Nazi propaganda for these people was useless eaters.
And this is the first time that the Nazis tested
out gassing right in large numbers. And he hasn't used
literally the term useless eaters, but he talks a lot about.
(13:03):
One of the terms he uses is severe autism, right,
which is not the term that is popularly used now
for people who have kind of profound autism. I think
is the preferred term for people who do have a
significantly higher degree of like disability as a result of
their autism or that correlates with their autism, right, as
opposed to the vast majority of people who can be
(13:25):
diagnosed to somewhere on the spectrum who are able to
live independently. Right and Kennedy sort of does the thing
that is very common within this community of sort of
number one, correlating that to everybody with autism and talking
about it as if it is a disaster that justifies
any kind of response, because the people who have profound
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autism aren't real people in his eyes. He made a
statement quote, these are kids who will never pay taxes,
they'll never hold a job, they'll never play baseball, they'll
never write a poem, they'll never go out on a date.
Many of them will never use a toilet on assisted.
We have to recognize we are doing this to our children.
And first off, having taught a lot of kids with
profound autism, yes they could play baseball, like a number
(14:07):
of them held jobs. Now do a lot of them
need assisted living? Sure, But like number one, that's always
been the case. There's no evidence that people with this
kind of autom that there's any sort of raise in
this right. What's raised is the number of people who
are being diagnosed. Right, And he's using this kind of
scare term, right, this idea that like parents, you need
(14:31):
to be frightened that something is going to steal your
children from you. In order to justify the dehumanization of
everyone with autism, as well as radical biomedical experimental procedures
that are going to do harm at scale to lots
of kids. One of his favorite new terms is epidemic denial,
(14:53):
which is the term that he's using for people who
say that, like, this is not an epidemic, this is
something that we're now screening for me more, he's kind
of kind of repurposing the language of like vaccine denial
and whatnot as like a denial that this is sort
of an immediate crisis that needs to be hit, which
I find interesting.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Also like co opting like COVID conscious language.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
Yeah, yeah, I think the way he and his group
were referred to during COVID he's now using in the
same fashion.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Yeah, And it's interesting. His initial promise was that like,
by September, will know why autism rates are on the rise.
That's not really a thing. You can't make science work
that way, Like you can't guarantee that.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
Like you said, we already know because people are seeking
out diagnoses.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Like because right, we have better awareness of it now.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
But he's kind of altered that recently, being like, no,
we'll have some answers by September, and you know, We're
gonna get those answers by removing the taboo so that
doctors won't get gas lit by blaming autism on vaccines
or you know, mold exposure or the like. That's that's
what we can look forward to in the near future
from our good friend RFK Junior, who definitely doesn't pay
(16:06):
taxes or write poems. I just want to make that clear.
I don't think either of those are particularly good bars
for whether or not you're a human being. But he
for sure doesn't do either.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
As frankly, I know way too many autistic people who
write poems.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Oh tons of them.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
Ys gonna say, yeah, the ring poeing things was a
really fucking.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
The poet Lauriate of Washington State since twenty twenty three
is a is a woman with autism. So yeah, like.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I writing poems nonsense, extremely common activity for my fellow ye,
my fellow autism people.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Yeah, they are okay, okay, ore FK Junior again, but
he was talking about, you know, people with what he
calls severe autism. But he also doesn't ever care to
like specify his language because there's no there's no benefit
that's a real medical yeah, and there's no benefit to
his ideology in acknowledging that, like, well, most people who
get diagnosed with autism may need some accommodations. It's a difference, right,
(17:04):
It's a difference in the way your mind works. But
they're fine, Like they're living healthy, happy lives.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah, I talk slightly differently in the cool zone work chat,
which is kind of the extent of it for me, extent,
but that is an aspect. Speaking of the Department of
Health Human Services, they released a report page on their
website for you, the the vigilance citizen. Oh yes, to
(17:33):
report trans miners receiving healthcare. Finally, and so an another
one of these like snitching hotlines at this time on
a federal government website that I'm sure will only get real,
real complaints sent to it, and not the B movie.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
See not repeatedly the B movie scrap.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah, speaking of trans people, I do have a few
updates on some some of the transgender stuff. During that
meeting between President Buklea and Trump, they went on a
small tangent about trans people where where Trump said that
he actually doesn't like talking about quote unquote men in
women's sports because he wants to wait and save that
(18:14):
issue to use for the next election.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Amazing.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah, I'm going to play the clip, and I don't.
Speaker 7 (18:20):
Like talking about it because I want to save it
for just before the next election. I said, my people
don't even talk about it because they'll change then. Well,
but I watched this morning it was a congressman fighting
to the debt for men to play against women in sports.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
That's like super interesting, like very clear insight into how
like Trump sees like the trands of sports issue and
treats it as this like election winning superpower, and like
he certainly he is directing like the DOJ and with
his executive orders, like he still is targeting trans people,
(18:58):
especially trans people against So it's not that he's treating
this as like a hands off issue to like ensure
that it can remain a hot button thing for the
next election. But I think I think in his mind,
like he doesn't want to stop Democrats from caring about
this issue in a way like like the the more
that they that they fight for it in his mind
(19:19):
is like what gives him ammunition for the next election,
whether he's going to run for a third term or
just like Republicans like mega stuff in general. But I
think that it is an interesting look into like his
personal insight on this issue. Meanwhile, the Department of Justice
just announced on Wednesday, April sixteenth, that they are suing
Maine's Department of Education for not complying with Trump's anti
(19:42):
trans executive order by continuing to allow trans people to
compete in sports, claiming that they are quote failing to
protect women in women's sports unquote, which which they say
violates Title nine. The suit aims to get an injunction
to force man to strip away rights from trans people
in schools, to take away two winning titles from trans
(20:04):
of school athletes, and are considering to quote unquote retroactively
pull all funding that Maine has received. Maine's Attorney General,
Aaron Frey said on Wednesday, quote our position is further
bolstered by the complete lack of any legal citation supporting
the administration's position in its own complaint. While the President
(20:25):
issued in executive order that reflects his own interpretations of
the law, anyone with the most basic understanding of American
civics understands that the President does not create law nor
interpret law unquote. So Maine and specifically the main governor,
are adamant that this is going to be an issue
that's only going to be settled in the courts, and
in fact challenged Trump at a recent meeting to see
(20:48):
you in court over this issue. We are going to
go and break and then return to close out this
episode of executive disorder. Okay, we are back. I'm now
(21:10):
gonna throw to myself and Mia to discuss the tariff
talk in a future recording.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Rocky jazz b Rocky jazz.
Speaker 7 (21:23):
Bot, Sorry lot, Rocky jazz Bo, Rocky.
Speaker 8 (21:30):
Jazz Bob, welcome the Tariff talk, the talk where I
talk to you about the turf tariffs. So all right,
the big thing that happens last week in tariffs was
that Trump exempted smartphones and electronics. There's a whole suite
of electronics that are exempted from the one and forty
five percent turf tariffs from Liberation Day. Now, there was
(21:54):
still a twenty percent tariff on all these electronic goods
from the earlier round tariffs. In one of the initial rounds,
there was a whole thing where he put a bunch
of tariffs.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I'm so confused though, because I thought that's ten percent
tariffs for non Chinese companies.
Speaker 8 (22:12):
Yeah, but okay, So here's.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
The thing, right, China like additional or no.
Speaker 8 (22:20):
Okay. So, so what's happening with these is that in
the very very first round of tariffs that went out,
there was a twenty percent tariff on all Chinese goods,
and so the Liberation Day tariffs, which and then the
subsequent retaliatory tariffs pushed.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
It pushed all goods now two hundred fifty.
Speaker 8 (22:38):
Okay, we're gonna we're gonna get two hundred fiyercent. That
the numbers bullshit, But we're at one hundred and forty
five percent like tariff from the Liberation Day stuff. But
that also had included an earlier twenty percent tariff, and
you see, you see why we're reporting about this is
so fucking hard, right, So that was stack on top
of that other tariff. So if he's removed the Liberation
Day tariffs, but there still are twenty percent tariffs on
(23:00):
all like iPhones and all the electronicos that are still
in effect. So the tariff right for those goods is
now twenty instead of one hundred and forty five. But
this is where things get even more murky. So even
before the exemptions for the semiconductor stuff had been released.
Trump had been talking about imposing a bunch of tariffs,
specifically on semiconductors from all countries, which is going to like, again,
(23:26):
if this is just awesome, if you want to just
kneecap your entire economy, you put in a tariff on
all semiconductors from other countries, which was what this is
looking like, it's possible the levels are going to be
that high. Anyways, It's again worth pointing out that, like,
there's a bunch of the parts of this production process
that basically can only be done in Taiwan, which will
(23:47):
presumably have these new tariffs on them. We don't know
what they're gonna be yet they're coming in, who fucking knows,
But so it seems like they're these tariffs are being
withdrawn for now due to market sort of backlash, but
probably they will come back at some point in the future.
We're not We're not one hundred percent sure. There's also
another thing I want to mention, where so the number
(24:09):
that you said, the two hundred and fifty percent tariff thing,
so Trump tweeted that out, but that's fake. What that
is is that there are a couple of items, and
I mean when I say a couple. I mean, like
we're talking like single digit items, like things like medical
syringes that already had like one hundred percent tariffs on them,
that the one hundred and forty five percent tariff stack
on top of all tariffs that are already in effect.
(24:31):
So there's like like three or four items already had
one hundred percent tariffs on them, so when you stack
the one forty five on top of them, they're two
fifty percent. But again it's like it's like three things, right,
So like that's fake. On the other hand, like substantively,
And this is something that a lot of people have
been talking about the difference between one hundred and forty
five percent and two hundred and forty five percent, Like
(24:52):
it isn't that relevant because at one hundred and forty
five percent you stop doing trading. So it's you know,
the numbers at this when I just sort of in
comedy levels. But yeah, so that's what's going on with
the two hundred and fifty number of people have been
going around from it's it's not real. It's still one
forty five for all non electronics goods twenty four electronics.
There's also been a bunch of China has been doing
(25:15):
retaliatory stuff for a little bit, and they've been ramping
up this program to restrict US access to rare earth
elements that are necessary for a whole bunch of advanced engineering,
particularly sort of defense projects. This is the thing that
could genuinely devastate the American defense sector. Trump's plan for
this is that he's threatening to use the Trade Expansion
Act nineteen sixty two to impose even more devastating tariffs.
(25:37):
Now it is genuinely unclear to me, Like what is
he going to do impose in one thousand percent tariff?
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Like you need to buy these goods, like you say that, Mia,
And yeah, he probably will.
Speaker 8 (25:49):
He probably will. Like two weeks ago, one thousand percent
tariffs would have been a joke, But no, they might.
They might legitimately do one thousand percent tariffs.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Why not.
Speaker 8 (25:58):
There's also been the beginnings of of on the us
ND sort of export restrictions from chip exports to China
and countries like Nvidia and AMD. And this is a
fucking big rip to the big rip to the fucking
AI people. Each hit get fucked. Yeah, so like so
that that's roughly the state of of the tariffs right now,
(26:20):
more more bullshit will happen. We'll be back on Tariff
Talk next week with another round of unbelievably hideous turf
tariff shit. But I want to I want to move
on to one more thing, which is things that have
been happening at the at the NLRB. So the NLRB,
for people who are not regular listeners to the show,
is the National Labor Relations Board. They were in charge
of a whole bunch of things related to negotiations between
(26:43):
employers and unions. Are the people who certify union elections,
they handle unfair labor practices disputes, and Doge effectively broke
into the NLRB and has seized a whole bunch of
information that they shouldn't have. NPR broke the story and
has been doing a lot of good coverage of it.
(27:04):
So it came in right. They technically had some kind
of like order saying that they're supposed to be able
to come in and do this stuff. And they set
up and they disable all of the security stuff and
all of the sort of like logs and all the
sort of stuff that's supposed to like verify what someone's
doing on a computer system, they go in and disable all
of them, They delete all traces of what they do.
(27:25):
And this is a big deal because the NLRB has
a lot of extremely sensitive data, has extremely sensitive data
on unions, It has a lot of extremely sensitive trade
data on private companies. Now, the NLRB person who blew
the whistle on this to NPR described how so he
complains about to his superiors about Doge again just like
sort of breaking into this fucking like office and just
(27:46):
like stealing all of this data. Because he mean, so
he notices this program that they're building that's literally just
called like backdoor, which is like again, what you would
do if you were literally running a hack, right, And
we'll come back to in a second. So the NLOP
person complains to a superior so like, hey, these DOSE
people are just like stealing all of the data from
this And then like the next day, someone from Doge
(28:10):
tapes to his door pictures of him and his dogs
with like a threatening thing on it, like drone footage
of him and his dog like walking, which is so
fucking weird. I don't even know, I don't even so, yeah,
that's that's extremely alarming. This is this is they're they're
(28:30):
just blatantly threatening a whistleblower. Yeah. So so the other
reason that this is really concerning is that so a
lot of the corporate media is focused on the fact
that there's a lot of trade information in there, there's
also a lot of very personal information about unions, about
union strength, about size, about tactics, about the history of
negotiating things about just where unions are and who's in them.
(28:51):
And it's it's deeply unclear what DOGE is going to
do with this information. But it's not good. And again,
and I need to emphasize this. So I talked to
friend of the show, oh Maya Arson crime w about this,
who is someone who knows a lot about hacking, And
I said to it, okay, so this is what you
would do if you were if you were just straight
up like hacking the NLRB, right, like, these are the
(29:13):
things you would do, And they went, yeah, pretty much.
So it's great, it's great. Yeah, the dose are just
stolen a bunch of information. Who knows what's gonna happen
to it. Who knows what's gonna happen with their escalation
of attacks on whistleblowers. But things bad, things continue to
go bad.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Well, thank you for that uplifting story, Miya about Doge
breaking into and stealing data from the NLRB and posting
overhead drone photos of people's houses who threatened the Doge supremacy.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
We're back, Thank you, Future Garrison and future Miya. So
it's my role here to update you on the Board
of Fashion, and that's what I'm here to do.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
Where I want to start this week is in the
Roosevelt Reservation.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
This is something that's been reported on a little bit.
Speaker 6 (30:08):
It's largely by people who maybe only found out about
it this week and looked at a Wikipedia page then
it wrote a story. The Roosevelt Reservation is a sixty
foot easement that runs along the southwestern border of the
United States from the coast in San Diego or the
way to New Mexico.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Doesn't cover the Texas border.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
I've written about it before for the Sierra Club and
for Drilled News four or five years ago, and I'm
going to include a link to the Sierra Club piece
in the show notes that Drill pieces down now they
don't have that print side anymore. It was established in
nineteen oh seven by Teddy Roosevelt and It was transferred
for three years from the Department of the Interior Department
of Defense by the Trump administration in twenty nineteen using
(30:48):
an executive order this year in twenty twenty five, all
of the Roosevelt Reservation that is not part of federal
reservation land was placed on the Department of Defense jurisdiction.
A lot of reports seems to have missed this exemption
for federal reservation land, which makes up a significant part
of the border, especially in Arizona right in the Tornad Reservation.
(31:09):
I'm going to quote from the language of the executive
order here quote to provide for the use and jurisdiction
by the Department events over such federal lands, including the
Roosevelt Reservation, and excluding Federal Indian reservations that are reasonably
necessary to enable military activities directed in this memorandum, including
border barrier construction and emplacement of detection and monitoring equipment.
(31:33):
The way I read this, it also doesn't limit to
the reserve reservation. It seems to include other federal land right,
which could include National monuments, National Parks BLM, and the
National Forests, all of which exist along the border. The
Trump administration this week also obtained waivers. The waivers wave
dozens of laws that have been limiting construction in the
(31:56):
San Diego sector. I'd like to quote a little bit
from that Sierra Club piece that I wrote, because I
think the aspect of the damage done to the sacred
space of Indigenous people is being completely overlooked by the
legacy media.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
In this not.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
Perhaps surprisingly so, one of the law's waved with a
Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act. The Native American
Graves Protection and Repatriation Act was enacted by Congress in
nineteen ninety to protect and safely relocate Native burial sites.
When construction takes place on sensitive sites, the tribing question
should be consulted, and in the event remains or other
(32:30):
archaeological objects are found, construction should be altered so as
not to disturb the site. In the areas of San
Diego where they are digging, what's called midden soil has
been found mid and soil is soil that contains evidence
of cremated human remains. Right in this case of Kumii people.
With this waver, they don't have to comply with NAGPRO
(32:52):
Native American Graves Protection and Relocation Act, which means that
they can continue digging through what are literally people's ancestors graveyards.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Quote from that twenty twenty story.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
If this were another country's government destroying a region's holy land,
the US would go to war and the people would
feel it justified, activist Thomas barbatod Sierra. But it happens
here at home, in front of us, and we just
turn away.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Yep, we sure do a turn away.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
It seems to be most of what we do these days.
Speaker 6 (33:18):
Yeah, it's not even what bugs me. It's like, not
so much of folks, you know, not doing anything. I
get that it's overwhelming horrible at the moment. It's that
this doesn't even get reported. Yeah, big outlets with a
massive budget, who are supposed to have a border reporter
who's never fucking set foot on the border, doesn't take
the time to talk to the indigenous people whose land
the border crossed, right, Like, doesn't take the time to
(33:40):
hear their concerns, doesn't take the time to think about
when you dig thirty feet into this ground to build
your border wall, that's twelve thousand years of someone's history.
How do they feel about that? And like that is
a failing of the legacy media. It has been a
failing for a long time, and it will continue to
be for a long time, and piss.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Me off, YEP.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
I guess to talk more broadly than about this militarization
of the Roosevelt Reservation and other public land. There's been
some speculation about what this might mean. I don't think
that you're going to see soldiers pointing their guns at
the southern border and shooting anyone who comes across. I
do think it's likely a lot of the people who
have been deployed to southern border so far at MPs
(34:23):
military police right, and it's possible that those MPs will
be able to detain people and potentially charge and with
trespassing on a military installation. That would just be another
string to the bow of their attempt to rapidly deport people,
because they already have many other kind of options through
executive order of doing that which which.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
They're a really implying right.
Speaker 6 (34:45):
It might also make it easier for them to waive
some of these other laws and to construct more surveillance equipment.
In the Ebrogogacia case, which we've covered for several weeks now,
the Supreme Court has unanimously asked to the United States
government to quote facilitate his return. The US government has
(35:06):
embarked upon a unique definition of the word facilitate, which
it feels like means allowing him to enter the country
and providing transport if El Salvador releases him. Bukelly refused
to release him, saying that doing so would be to
quote smuggler terrorists into the United States. Garrison and I
did a whole episode about this yesterday that you can
listen to. Today, Senator Chris van Holland went to San Salvador, right,
(35:32):
capital of El Salbador if you're not where, he met
with the Vice president because Bukele is still out the country.
Van Holdend held the press conference right afterwards that I
watched for it before we recorded this. In the press conference,
Van Holland basically said that he asserted to the Vice
President of El Salbador there was no evidence nor any
conviction of being a member of MS thirteen, and he
(35:53):
asked the VP why he was holding mister Abrego Gussier,
and the VP said, because the US is paying us
to home.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Yeah, which yeah, they won't even lie.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Yeah, no, he's not lying. That's why they're doing it.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
I believe that.
Speaker 6 (36:06):
Yeah, and credit to this Maryland senator, like being the
only one to do something, and it's not enough, and
it's just one person. There are three hundred people there, right,
They're not even going for the hundreds of other innocent
people are there. It's one guy, but at least he's
doing something. The rest of the Democrats collectively, Yeah, I
don't know, like voting for Trump's nominees. He asked to
(36:29):
meet with mister Abrego Garcia and was told that they
needed more time. He said, I'll come back next week.
They said they don't know if they can organize it
in a week. He asked if he could call him.
They said they didn't know if they could facilitate a call.
They said maybe the US embassy would have to be
the one that requests that. So he has now requested
that the embassy requests that he be allowed to call
mister Abrego Garcia and mister Brego Garcia be allowed to
(36:49):
speak to his wife. Garreton and I spoke about how
like it's not in the interest of government at El
salbad Or to have people leave this prison and testify
it to the conditions that are in it.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
No one has ever left this prison that we're aware of.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yeah, that no one who's been detained there has left.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
The government wouldn't give him a date when he could
meet mister Abergo Garcia or when he would be likely
able to make a call.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
And a separate case, Judge Boseburg.
Speaker 6 (37:15):
Who we've spoken about before as well, Right, Judge Bothberg,
with the judge issues's attentive restraining order on the rendition
of people to l Salbador, which the government then ignored,
has found probable cause that the administration is in contempt
of court.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
What does this mean?
Speaker 6 (37:31):
It doesn't mean, despite what you have seen on your timeline,
that this will mean these people will be bought home.
When they found a contempt, they have two options. Right,
they can purge themselves of the contempt, and the way
they would do that would be by providing habeas not
by bringing all these people home, at least not yet right.
Or they could present the people who are responsible and
(37:54):
then either an attorney could be appointed by the DOJ
to prosecute them, I guess and don't quite know how
that works since or the judge himself point and attorney
to prosecute them for criminal contempt. Again like at least
the guys try and I guess.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Like no, I mean, like I got nothing to say
against him right now, Like this is what they all
should be doing. He went there, he said something, and
he's not mincing his words. He's saying that this man
was disappeared.
Speaker 6 (38:16):
No, yeah, and he's he's asserting that, like they need
to listen to the court. They are supposed to listen
to the court. Judge genez In genez who is a
judge on the district court that had its case sent
to the Supreme Court for review in the Abrego Garcia incident,
also quoted to Merriam Webster Dictionary and said that the
government's understanding of the word facility flew in the face
(38:38):
of the common understanding.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Of the word.
Speaker 6 (38:40):
Again, like I've seen it asserted, like, oh, legal experts
can disagree. Meanwhile, you've got the actual judge in the
actual case being like, notice is what the dictionary says.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Your definition is ludicrous.
Speaker 6 (38:49):
I would caution people to be very careful looking at
at like blue check legal experts on except com or
people on blue Sky. There has been so much misleading
stuff about immigration law and the laws in these particular
two cases and they are about the resot reservation. Actually,
just be really careful where you're getting your information, especially
(39:12):
on immigration law from maybe go back and check what
that person was doing in twenty twenty three when thousands
of migrants were detained in outdoor detention camps. Because I've
seen so much misinformation and people, understandably who aren't expert
in this, because it's extremely complicated, are likely to be
taken advantage of by people who are grifting off what
is at a moment when a lot of us are
(39:33):
afraid and a lot of us are insertain, to be
very careful what you're reading out there.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
All right, I think that's all for us today on
It could Happen Here?
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Yeah, I think that's our new rectiled executive dysfunction episode.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
At Rectile Order.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
All right, Well, we're fucking done, go away.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
We reported the news.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
We reported the news.
Speaker 9 (40:06):
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