April 25, 2025 • 45 mins
The gang get together to discuss RFK’s plans for people with autism, immigration detention of citizens, the legal battle over rendition, FBI raids in Michigan, tariffs and Mia drops some economy knowledge.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Colson Media.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
This is It could Happen here Executive Disorder, our weekly
newscast covering what's happening in the White House, the crumbling world,
and what it means for you. I'm Garrison Davis today.
I'm joined by Mio Wong, James Stout, and Robert Evans.
This episode, we're covering the week of April seventeen to
April twenty three. Jd Vance has killed the Pope. A
(00:27):
second pete hegseath on authorized signal chat has hit the
Department of Defense. The White House announces that the Education
Department will start collecting on defaulted student loans. Beanie clad
Tim Poole joins the White House press pool, and hippie
Facebook moms rejoice with artificial food dies being banned across America.
How are we doing, everybody?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
So, after hearing that, fine, I guess I outlived the Pope.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I outlive the Pope.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
You have to live several more decades to like outlive
the pope. Officially, I think he was eighty eight, So
he did it and did it.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Thank goodness he did not die on Hitler's birthday, because
that would have been a whole other, whole other, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I'm still one day off. I'm thinking back to my
Catechism classes and trying to remember, like Pope dead on Easter,
good sign are bad?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
That's definitely a sign and get some kind.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Of shine do we? How do we take that?
Speaker 5 (01:22):
Shout out to the Pistons for holding off winning a
playoff game just long enough for the Pope to die,
such that Francistory's entire tournament office never saw a Pistons
playoff win. Congratulations to the Pistons, Gradulations to the City
of Detroit. Congratulations were withholding that from the Pope?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Didn't that mean love to see it? Did Pope Francis
have a strong opinion on the Pistons that he expressed
at some point because I may have missed that.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
No, he knew they were in a Macomore song, so
therefore he hated them.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
He was a huge mcle fan. Yeah, a lot of
people don't know this, but the entire time the Pope
is lying in state, they're just going to be looping
thrift shop. So yeah, as Pope Francis wanted.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Yeah, that was his dying wish.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Do you know who else probably used to listen to
mackilmore not anymore because he got too woke. But Pete
hegg Seth seems like us. He's like a twenty twelve
Macklemore guy.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah it might have been. Might have been.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
He was sharing plans for you many air strikes with
his wife, his brother and a personal lawyer in another signal.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Chat, I do the same thing.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Yeah, well yeah, you've yet to act on your plans.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
It's a difference. They are not interested.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Looping at the lawyers the real like God to your
move there.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
That's so funny because I mean it says so much
both about like what's going on in Pete heg Seth's brain,
but of the quality of lawyer, because any lawyer worth
assault would be like please your movie chat.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah, you need to get me out of this chat.
What is wrong with you? Are you? Are you texting
me missile package information?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
That's the thing.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Though, we've gotten great every like this guy from Julianti,
from all of the lawyers, these like random cartoon dipshits.
The right keeps finding that like they will just hand
you a law degree. Like if you hand the state
enough money, they will just hand you a law degree.
And you can just like bullshit your way to the
bar and you'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Like they get that. Shout out to anyone you can
tell a really good lawyer in a room where legal
things are being discussed. And I've had this happen several
times because they just leave, they bounce, they get the
fuck out of the room. And that's a smart lawyer.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Yeah. I don't know if you saw it, but the
State of California was using AI to say it's bar
exam questions.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
So ohird. You don't even have to be so that
the AI would be able to tell you, don't text
you your wife, lawyer and sun classified information about missile strikes.
But whatever.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Now, hopefully if they start using AI more to get
through school, they won't have they won't have as many
student loans to be collected on. Yeah, of practice that
has been paused since March of twenty twenty, set to
be resumed on May fifth. And then, Man, the Timpoole
thing was really wild. Press Secretary Carolyn Levitt gave a
(04:06):
give a glowing introduction to Tim Poole's addition to the
press room, and Tim's first question to the administration was
was asking why news media just lies so much about Trump.
Fantastic journalism here from comrade Tim, really probing question. Let's
pivot towards RFK and the concerning registry that has been discussed,
(04:31):
which is a word you never like to hear. Whenever
someone brings up the concept of a registry, it's usually.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Bad, always bad. So I'm going to talk in general
about what RFK, the things that he has said, not
just about autistic Americans, but about people who are receiving
psychiatric medication, people who are addicted to opiates, people who
are utilizing like stimulants, by which I mean ADHD medicine,
which if you have ADHD, that's not exactly the way
(04:58):
it functions, but that's the way he frames it. Because
these are all tied together, right. I have some frustrations
with kind of how it's been taken on social media
that I think are not causing people to worry when
they don't need to worry, but look at maybe sort
of the wrong area to see the immediate threat coming from.
So first I'm going to start with like what has
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been said, and before we get to the registry, we
have to go back to what he was talking about
on the campaign trail because prior and this is prior
to him endorsing Donald Trump. When our FK Junior was
like an individual like running for president on his own
under his independent campaign, he started talking about wellness farms, right,
and these were specifically in the language that he use,
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places that people who were addicted to psychiatric medication antidepressants
he named specifically antidepressants and stimulants as well as people
with opiate addictions, right, and he has since talked about
other drug addictions as well. Could go to spend three
or four years working on a farm. He always frames
it as also like learning skills. So it's this mix
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of I want people to be able to work in
this in you know, lovely bucolic, you know agrarian setting
where they'll gain working skills. And then there's also pepperedin
these very frightening phrases like they need to be reparented
right now. In addition to this, he's not just that
this is all focused on Americans who are taking medications
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that he thinks are over over prescribed or purely unnecessary. Right,
that's always the way, Like psychiatric medication. He almost has
a scientologist attitude towards it that like this is all
essentially unnecessary and obviously you know, all of this stuff
comes out of their elements of this that were true
at one point. For example, back in the nineties, like
Riddlin was wildly over prescribed to kids. But the way
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in which he's translated this now is that basically everyone
on a stimulant, everyone on an antidepressant is on it unnecessarily.
And in a podcast in twenty twenty four, he went
further by kind of tying a lot of this to race,
specifically stating quote, every black kid is now just standard
put on adderall on SSRIs benzos, which are known to
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induce violence, and those kids are going to have a
chance to go somewhere and get reparented. So that's all
deeply concerning.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
It's like kidnapping children. And forcibly, like demedicating.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I will say, that's not how he has framed it.
So one of the things is people I've heard it
phrases like rfks admitted he wants to imprison millions of
Americans in camps, and like, that's not what he said.
The direct quotes about this are not framed as a
mandatory thing. It's framed as a replacement for other treatments
that people can choose to go into and choose to leave.
(07:41):
That's what he's said, right, Okay, Now, perfectly reasonable when
a guy in an administration like this is talking about
putting up camps to be like, well, I don't know
if I believe him, but it's not accurate that he
said he wants to arrest millions of people and force
them onto camps. He just has not said that, right, Yeah, yeah,
And I think it behooves us to be honest about
what he said. I think it also who's to talk about,
(08:01):
like where this idea comes from, right, and what he's
looking back to. And again, a lot of the issue
here is not necessarily what RFK might do, but the
fact that he might not be there forever, and if
he starts establishing this this kind of kind of program
that starts in an attempt to be something that is more,
you can choose to be on these camps or not.
(08:23):
There's certainly willingness within the Republican Party to force people
into different kinds of quote unquote treatment like this. And
one thing I think that particularly is the way in
which the right has liked to shift blame for gun
violence and mass shootings off of the availability of firearms
and onto people who are on psychiatric medication right, And
this is an area in which I could see someone
(08:44):
taking over from RFK or pushing past the things he
specifically has stated he wants to do, because I think
he does come out of a more quack medicine goal here,
putting people forcibly in camps and colonies like this, I.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Mean, like the idea of like reparenting, I guess is
deeply problem Yes, incredibly scary phrase, but it is worth
noting as there's a very good teen Vogue article on
the matter called RFK wants to send people to wellness farms.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
The US already tried that that talks about the actual
background that he is hearkening back to, because he is
not His vision of wellness farms is not like the
Nazi concentration camp. Which doesn't mean that it's not possible
that things could wind up in a much darker direction.
But this gives you an idea of the history that
he is specifically calling back to. Quote beginning of the
(09:32):
eighteen nineties and continuing through the first decades of the
twentieth century, epileptic and feeble minded colonies sprung up around
the US. The initial purpose of these colonies was to
remove patients from overcrowded, badly run asylums and poorhouses in
favor of farm life, where they would have access to
the outdoors. Under the colony model, patients generally lived in
cottages designed to be more homelike than institutional Patients were
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also given jobs, and many were expected to work on
colony farms, where they grew their own food. Doctor William Sprattling,
the medical suit superintendent of the Craig Colony for Epileptics
in New York, declared that the farm model meant nature,
the great restorer, will have an opportunity to do her best.
It didn't work. Supporters of the colony model argued that
with time, clean air, sunshine, and a restricted diet, physical
labor could heal patients, but that didn't happen. Data from
(10:16):
the Craig Colony, one of the America's first epileptic colonies,
illustrates this point. During the nineteen forties, thanks to funding
and staff limitations because of World War II, conditions in
North America's institutions were particularly grim. The institutions nineteen forty
three to nineteen forty four annual report to the State
Commission of Mental hygiene shows that less than one percent
of patients were discharged is cured that year. During that
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same period, over two hundred patients attempted to leave the
colony without permission, and five percent of the total patient
population died. And so I mean, that's reason enough to
be deeply worried, right, the fact that without saying like
RFK wants to do what the Nazis did, RFK wants
to do what the America already did, and it killed
a huge number of the people who were interned in
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those camps. And I guess the thing I keep bringing
up is that when I think about what the threat
model is more than fucking Auschwitz for people who want
our NSSRIS, it's a Judge Rotenberg Center on every corner.
It's camps like these where costs are going to be
cut and there's not going to be good access for
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any kind of independent monitors to make sure health and
safety are being followed. It's not that people are going
to be shoveled into ovens. It's that as a result
of this system being incompetently applied to the most vulnerable.
And I'm not even talking about my worry at the moment,
being that everyone on an SSR will be forced in
it's going to be poor kids. And RFK has already
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talked about that, right, Like, that's why he's focusing on
the black kids, right, that's who they're going for. We've
had some people post up in the subreddit being like,
I know I'm going to go to a camp because
I have autism, or I know I've alway to go
to a camp because i have ADHD. And I'm telling you,
I'm not saying don't be scared of fascism. I'm saying
this is where to fight right now. It's not RFK
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wants to send every adult on an SSRI into a
death camp. It's that they're going to try and be
putting these kids instead of you know, the different juvenile
programs that exist, instead of any kind of functional medical program,
They're going to force them into facilities like this. And
it's going to become easier for facilities like the Judge
Rotenberg Center, which horribly abuses and tortures autistic kids, to
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spread and to get state and federal funding. Like and
that's the threat, right, It's an extension of what we're
doing and what we've done. It's not a carbon copy
of what the Nazis are doing or did speaking of
the Nazis, and we're back. So a couple of things
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happen in quick succession that is responsible in part for
like why people are so freaked out, and rightfully so.
One of them is that RFK gave a speech on
the back of new data that showed yet another rise
in the rate of autism diagnoses, and as I said
on a previous episode, it's because we're looking for it more.
But he made a statement about people with profound autism
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not being able to pay taxes or write poems, you know,
or that sort of thing. And while he was he
was specifically talking about people with quote unquote profound autism,
it's reasonable for people to assume, like, yeah, but that's
just kind of what he sees is basically everyone, right,
and I don't think that that's an unfair assumption. And
then coming right up on the heels of that, there
(13:37):
was an announcement from the NIH, the National Institutes of
Health about RFK Junior's new effort to quote unquote study autism.
And basically, what they're going to be doing is collecting
comprehensive patient data with broad coverage of the US population
and kind of organizing it within the NIH. This is
the first time this has been done. But they are
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going to be grabbing basically everything they can get their
hands on. And we're talking about a mix of medication
records from pharmacies, lab testing records, genomic data from people
who like go to the Department of the basically data
taken by the VA, data taken by the Indian Health Service,
as well as data from private insurers. And they're also
(14:19):
going to be buying data from smartwatchs stuff like fitbits. Right,
who does sell their data to anybody with like twenty
dollars hanging out the back of their pocket. And as
a heads up, if you are looking for a fitness tracker,
you should look more into this. There are a few
that have reasonably good data protection histories. Garman is one
of them. This does not mean it's perfect. All of
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them will hand over your data if given a court
order to do so. None of them are going to
break the law to hold on to your data. But
Garman doesn't just like sell willy nilly to anybody who
wants to like advertise based on it. Right that said,
most of them do the last thing I'd write was
something like twelve out of fifteen different free fitness tracks
apps they checked sold data pretty widely, So yeah, about
(15:03):
eighty percent. Yeah, it's the vast majority. Right, So, the
NIH is basically looking at taking the data that exists.
They're not talking about really gathering new data, but they
they are talking about collecting everything that exists and putting
it under one roof for the first time. And this
is for a couple of purposes. Right. They want to
be able to track the spread of different illnesses and
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different health problems within the population. These are their claims,
but also they want to create a disease registry specifically
to track Americans with autism. Right, And this is because
Kennedy describes autism as a preventable disease, which is not accurate.
And the fact that this database and these other databases
are being made should be very worrisome. Right, It's both
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important to talk about the fact that he is specifically
signaling out autism while also stating like, that's not the
only thing they're looking into. Right. They want data on
people who are on SSRIs, who are on ADHD medication.
They probably want data on drug use. Right. There are
a lot of things they are looking to be gathering,
and none of it is shit that they should have
access for.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah, you can certainly see them expanding this out to
like hormone replacement therapy, transior healthcare, yes, yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
And also like the apps attract like menstrual cycles right, yes, people,
excess and reproductive healthcare.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
And again the immediate plan, I'm sorry, I simply don't.
I don't think that RFK Junior's master plan is the
mass arrest of everybody who with autism in the United
States and forcing them into a camp. I don't think
that's what he wants, in part because his number one,
his base of support is a lot of the parents
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of these kids. And I'm not saying those parents don't
want to do things that they are already doing things
to their kids that are harmful, But those parents want
control over what they see as their kids health care.
They want the freedom to experiment with medications on their
kids to quote unquote fix them. And this data is
going to be used both to provide basically to be
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massaged to provide evidence that different treatments that don't do
shit do in fact work. And I think I have
suspicions of financial interests there. I keep getting questioned like, well,
what do you think is going to happen when the
autism cures don't work, Well, then they're going to put
people in camps. No, the autism cures already don't work.
This is an industry. They make money off of this.
They make money off of drugging and medically torturing these children.
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And as far that is, the threat is that it
is going to get easier to do at a larger scale,
and it is going to be harder to fight, even
illegal to provide good information on what does and does
not work. And that is what's happening right now as
opposed to something we might be worried about, you know,
years down the line. And yes, we should fight anytime
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the government is trying to put populations of people into
a motherfucking database like this, we should fight all of
this tooth and nail. I just think this is what
I see as the danger. You know, Yeah, the risk
is this to centralized stuff. It's a centralized acceleration for
things that have already been happening, less so than just
like large skilled direct sator intervention.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Yeah, I think a lot about like in the context
of this like quote unquote wilderness therapy programs. Right, yes,
Roberts covered these, but which have been abusing children for years.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
And that is what I see when we talk about
these these farms. Again, my worry is not RFK wants
to forcibly put everybody into fucking Auschwitz Part two. It's
RFK wants a hundred times as many teen treatment facilities
where kids who disobey are get in trouble with the
large caught it fucking protests, can be forced to labor,
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and an amount of them will die and all of
them will suffer permanent mental and physical damage as a
result of being put in these places.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah, like the behavioral improvement centers that are you could
even be part of, you know, like like community service.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Yes, yeah, it's extensions of what we do. It's extremely American,
you know. I just that's that's where my head is.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Yeah, it's not great. So talking of where I guess
where my head is is immigration, Right, That's what I
tend to update us on. So I guess I've seen
it characterize as like legal ping pong between the courts
and the DOJ. It would be like if one side
was playing ping pong with a regular tennis racket, and
everyone was just pretending that they weren't right, Like the
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doj is just continuing to kind of flout these court orders.
If we start from the top and go down, the
Supreme Court temporarily banned the government from renditioning Venezuelan men
in the district of North Texas to El Salvador. I
think people maybe sometimes this got a little misinterpreted on
social media, like you have to look at who the
class was, and the class was a group of Venezuelan
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men who were in immigration detention in North Texas who
were going to be sent to Well Saladore, and that
was who got the relief. The case at the time
was pending before the US Court of Appeals for the
Fifth Circuit, and the Supreme Court said that once that
court active, the government could appeal to the Supreme Court. However,
they added, the government should not, and I'm quoting here,
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remove any member of the putative class of detainees from
the United States until further order of this Court.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I e.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
The Supreme Court to update on the case, which we've
covered a lot here. The Abrego Garcia case. Judge Genies
ordered expedited discover. Discovery is when both parties in a lawsuit,
like a mass information right, they're able to find out information.
And in this case, the government more or less ignored this,
(20:31):
and it did so by sticking to its line that
they can't bring him home to the United States, saying
that the requests were and I'm quoting again here, based
on the false premise that the United States can or
has been ordered to facilitate Abrego Garcia's released from custody
in El Salvulo. Their claiming they were ordered to return him,
and somehow in their minds, returning him does not include
(20:55):
ensuring his release, like they're saying that they're only obliged
to transport him should he be released anyway.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Genie's in a.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Court order, called this quote a wilful and bad faith
refusal to comply with the discovery obligations. Geni's also called
the government's assertions of executive privilege quote equally specious. The
City of Hyattsville in this case also clarified through a
press release that quote, at no time did any member
of HPD identify or file any report classifying Abrego Garcia
(21:26):
as a member of any gang. Despite this, the executive
branch is still going with that he's a violent gang member.
They also doxed his wife this week by releasing a
protective order that she had once filed and withdrawn, and
when that was released, it contained her address, so she's
now hiding in a safe house.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
They photoshopped a MS thirteen tattoo onto his knuckles above
a weed leaf tattoo, a smiley face across and a skull.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Yeah, that's what they're going with. I guess specious is
a specious is a good word?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (22:06):
Just hideous nonsense?
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Yeah, no, absolutely obscenely ridiculed. And then the other angler
says is I'm just saying that you don't have a
right to do process right like openly, just like Miller
has been saying this. Jd Vance has been saying this
on x dot com that like, these people don't have
a right to do process for that. They've come up
with various arguments for that. It also seems like two
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people sent twelve Salbador no longer appear on any official
list of detainees. Yeah, which is concerning one of them,
Ricardo Pradovasquez. He's not among the two hundred and thirty
eight people we know on the manifest for those sent
twelve Salbador. He doesn't appear to be in Venice Whaler,
which is where his passport is from. And the fact
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that the government claims that they sent him. The government
has said they sent him on the March fifteenth flights.
He's not listed there. He's not visible in photos. Has
led to concerns that we might have sent more people
to Asarbadorre than we currently know about. He entered the
country with a CBP one appointment. Right, which of all
the ways to enter is the one that the US
government was trying to force people to use at that time.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Right, he very like legally entered the country. Yes.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Yeah, to be clear, he entered at a port of
entry with an appointment to claim asylum. He appears made
a mistake when delivering food and ended up driving into
Canada and was arrested when he attempted to return to
the United States. He doesn't show up on the ICE
detainee locator, and essentially no one knows where he is right.
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This concern has been compounded by the fact that it
also emerged this week that the US has sent at
least one detainee, Omar Abdul sata Amin to Rwanda, and
the combination of these two things raises a concern that
they are sending third country nationals to detention in other
countries that we are not yet aware of. Right, of course,
(24:00):
the Rwanda Plan was something that the UK government hatched
a long time ago, and the Kagami government in Rwanda
seems to see this offer right as a way of
gaining legitimacy with governments in the global North, especially given
the widespread criticism for its actions in the Democratic Republic
of Congo. Recently, from the Handbasket, which is like a
(24:24):
kind of substacky outlet, they've reviewed memos between the US
government and the embassy in Rwanda, and I'm quoting from
one of them here. The US provided a one time
payment of one hundred thousand dollars to support social services,
residency documents, and work permits. Rwanda has also, according to
the Handbasket, agreed to accept ten more third country nationals.
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So the US is paying Rwanda a little bit more
than it's paying El salbad Or. Right, it was paying
El salborda twenty thousand per person per year, but it's
a one time payment. Nonetheless, I struggle to believe that
you could concoct a way in which it would cost
Wander one hundred grand to produce a residency document and
(25:09):
a work permit for an Iraqi national. But yeah, this
has obviously led to the concern that people are being
sent to other places that we don't yet know about
talking to people being sent to other places. A US citizen,
Jose Hermosille, was detained by ice after approaching a border
patrol agent to ask for directions.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
He was detained for ten days.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
DHS is claiming that he was arrested near the Nogales
border and that he approached the border patrol agent and
upon doing so, identified himself as a non citizen who
was not in the country legally, which is what they claim. Yes,
so Hermaiceo disputes this along with his lawyers. He says
(25:53):
he approached the agent looking for directions, having had a
seizure and been in the hospital and when he got
out of hospital was trying to work out where to go.
He is from New Mexico, but he was visiting his
girlfriend's family in Tucson. He told the agent he was
from New Mexico, and the agent accused him of lying.
In his account, DHS has to produce a transcript with
(26:14):
I'm not going to call it a signature because it
just has the word Jose written underneath it. Right, Mister Hermercio,
according to his girlfriend, has some learning difficulties, and by
her account, he wouldn't have been able to read the
English language transcript that he's alleged to have signed. So, like,
whether or not he signed this is rather a material right.
(26:35):
He clearly, judging by her account, was not aware that
he was in it. Judging by this, this is not
even a signature with a last name. It's laughable to
suggest that he like consentingly signed this. But nonetheless, he
was detained for ten days till his family produced his
documents in court.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, he was arrested quote unquote without proper immigration documents,
which you don't carry around when you're a US citizen.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Yeah, you're not obliged to please.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
You don't need that. His family brought his Social Security
card certificate to court, and eventually the case against him
was dismissed after being held by Ice for ten days.
This reminds me of a similar case from this past week,
where a US citizen was detained on Wednesday the sixteenth.
This is a twenty year old born in Georgia, Juan
(27:21):
Carlo's Lopez Gomez. He was pulled over while driving to
work near the Florida border. He doesn't speak much English
or Spanish. He speaks an indigenous mind language, but he
gave his real ID card and Social Security card over
to a state trooper. He was detained and charged with
illegally entering the state as a quote unquote unauthorized alien. Similarly,
(27:43):
the trooper claims that Lopez Gomez said that he was
in the country illegally. This is like some kind of
communication error or these law enforcement officers are just like
lying or trying to construct like language traps to make
someone agree to a statement that admits that they're in
the country legally, which allows them to be detained. He
was put into a twenty four hour ice hold. The
(28:05):
next day, a federal judge verified his birth certificate, which
is brought by his mother, but claims to lack the
authority to release him, though he was released later Thursday night,
and he was arrested under a new Florida law signed
by the Santas last month, which a judge blocked earlier
this month. On April fourth. This basically allows the state
troopers to act as their state's own like border patrol,
(28:28):
and it penalizes immigants who quote unquote knowingly enter or
attempt to enter the state after entering the United States
by eluding or avoiding examination or inspection by immigration officers.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
Yeah, and like the common thing here, right is that
they're just we've seen this. There are a bunch of
other cases that are like this too, where it's just
like they see someone who's not white and they're just like, yeah,
fuck it, we can grab this person and then just
live about what they said. It's like it's not even very.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Based on racial profiling.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
Yeah, but it's like things it's like it's not even
it's not even like racial profiling anymore. Like it's it's
they're just attempting to black bag like random non white
people that they're just running across. Yes, and so of
course they're like grabbing US citizens r because they're just
grabbing random people. But it's like they're just fucking doing
this to everyone. This has happened in other states as well.
There's been instance like this like the past few months,
(29:15):
which have which have increased in frequency since Trump has
taken office. Yeah, let's go on a break and return
to talk tariff. Okay, we are back. How's the how's
(29:39):
the economy going?
Speaker 2 (29:44):
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Speaker 6 (29:49):
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Speaker 2 (29:55):
Bock do not like? Okay, Mia, what can you tell
us about tariffs?
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Week?
Speaker 5 (30:00):
So we got a look inside the White House this
week at how the tariff, the turf tariff suspension happened. Now,
remember so there was there was the deliberation day tariffs
a few weeks ago, and then they got suspended for
ninety days. So we're all still on the ninety day
countdone clock on those being unsuspended. But we got a
view of how that happened from the Wall Street Journal,
(30:24):
and the Wall Street Journal reports that Secretary Treasurer Scott
Bessett and Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnik basically waited until Trump
advisor Peter Navarro was out of the room, and then
it was in a meeting, and then they cornered Trump
and we're like, you gotta roll these terror you gotta
do this pause on the tariffs.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Honestly iconic, you know, I hate to say it, but iconic.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
This was also all the first TRUP administration ran, and
everyone appears to have forgotten that this is how all
of the shit works.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Well, because there was a there were all those stories
for the first couple of weeks about how smooth and
well run it was and everything.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
It's slow, yeah, and like the many people assume that
there was like a plan behind this, and like, no, no,
I am fucking vindicated. They really are just this fucking stupid, Like, no,
there is not a grand strategy behind this sort of
like tariff rollout.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Right.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
There is a senile old man and his stupid warring advisors,
and they're both fighting each other basically for like they're
they're they're they're they're trying like they're they're trying to
wait until the other persons out of the room so
they can grab control of the fucking puppet reins. But
this this does actually lay bare something that's sort of
important about this, which is that like there is a
huge fight inside of the Trump administration between kind of
(31:35):
lutnik who's like the representative of a bunch of different
sort of sectors of American capital, right, Like he he's
a representative of like you're fucking like Walgreens, dipshits, right,
and like he's also representative of with the finance people,
and those people are losing their fucking minds over the
tariffs because it's again going to destroy the economy. But
Navarro is you know, it's just like a hardline sort
(31:57):
of like anti China ideologue. And and Navarro is the
person who's been driving the most intense versions of these tariffs.
And it's a real issue for everyone else in the
administration who doesn't want this to happen because Navarro is
like the one guy in the administrator in the Trump
actually likes and so they can't directly move against him
because they lose. Like Elon Musk tried this and like
it got nowhere. And so you know what we've been
(32:19):
seeing is is just like again, the tariff policy here
is just being set by who's the last person in
the room with him. Yeah, so we're probably still like
about sixty days ish out from these terrorists coming back
into effect. I mean this basically means like they'll be
hitting in the summer, which is also just like absolutely
the worst conceivable time for these terrifts to take effect
(32:41):
in terms of like if you were just like deliberately
trying to cause a massive popular mobilization against you. This
is what you would do. They're not that, they're just dumb,
but like, you know, so okay, let's most move on
to the sort of big news of this week is
the press has been carrying stories about Trump backing off
(33:02):
of the one hundred and forty five percent China tariffs
and the fact that there's going to be negotiations and
it's all going to get wound down, and like, I'm
pretty sure this is just kind of pure lutnik shit
to try to calm the markets down. The issue with
this story is that there are no negotiations, right. Everyone
keeps talking about how the US is going to do
(33:22):
negotiated settlement with China. There have not been any negotiations.
There are not negotiations. There has not even been a
process to start negotiations, because you know, the last stories
we had about this was that like neither side wants
to be the person to like start going to the
table because like asking the other side for negotiations makes
them look weak. Like Trump has been asking China to
(33:43):
ask him the cert of negotiations. The Chinese are refusing.
And the second issue here, and this is The more
substantive problem with with a sort of negotiated back out
is that the Trump Navarro position hinges on the line
that the trade deficit inherently like with China, is proof
of Chinese market manipulation. And the thing is, there's no
(34:03):
actual way to systematically address that, right, Like there's that
there's nothing that like either China or the US could
do that would that would reverse the trade deficit. So
there's no sort of like you know, like yeah, like
like the obvious way out here would be for like
Trump to take some kind of weird symbolic victory and
like China to be like we're doing a fenntional crackdown
(34:24):
or some shit. But the thing is, like, ideologically for
someone like Navarro, and Navarro is the important figure here,
like Navarro just wants trying to destroy it.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Right There's there's no actual.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
Negotiating process that he can do that will actually sort
of like make this like negotiation shit happen and have
it actually like eliminated tariffs. The only thing that can
happen basically is a political battle inside of the Trump
administration where Davarro gets pushed out somehow. But again, Navarro
is like Trump's guy. So I I just don't buy
all of this, all of the fucking stories that are
(34:55):
coming out, And this happens constantly, every single time there's
one of these things, there's all these stories being like,
well they're gonna get rolled back. It does actually mean this,
and that just happens. Right, we have one hundred and
forty five percent rais on China. Now, the last thing
I want to talk about is what the actual effects
of this has been. And the effect is that it
has been. There's been a massive slow down and a
massive like shutdown in in exports from China to the US,
(35:16):
like an internship container ship traffic. Right, we're talking about
I'm just gonna quote from CNBC here. So they're talking
about Optimizer, which is like a tracking system for ships,
and they said, quote, year on year, the data shows
a forty four percent drop in vessels schedule to arrive
the week of May.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Fourth to May tenth.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
Now that that's not actually necessarily a forty percent drop
in traffic, because there'll be more shit when like other
boats get full. But you know, to put this into perspective, right,
during the worst for trade, the worst parts of the
COVID lockdowns the year and a year drop was only
twenty percent, so and twenty percent is the number that's
been that's been being spread around the media for like
(35:54):
what roughly the drop looks like for some companies is
larger than others. And again, the tariff, we still haven't
even seen the actual shocks of the tariffs yet, and
we're already seeing a decline in experts from China that
is like again around the level of the lockdowns. And
and you know, I think like people remember like the
kind of unhinged shit that that caused, right, and that's
(36:17):
something that you know is only going to intensify. And
the other part of this, right is that the strategies
right now for how this is being dealt with is
moving through Vietnam, moving through Cambodia. But if you remember
the rates from the original sort of like turf tariffs
from Liberation Day, right, like the teriff from Vietnam was
like one hundred percent or some shit, it was like
eighty percent. I don't remember, zat my head, but like
(36:39):
there's no actual viable strategy of just of ways you
can route these goods through and it's been especially hitting
the sort of drop shipping companies, right, like people like
Temu and anything that realts in air phrase just getting fucked.
And so this is all just you know, just sort
of rolling in the background, is just this logistics crisis,
and it's it's it's it's also an echo crisis. And
(37:00):
this thing I actually want to close this section on
is that, Like, so the big issue with these sort
of empty boats, right and these cancelations at boat orders,
is that in order for it to be profitable, because
all of these these shipping companies run on such low margins, right,
they only barely survive the pandemic by taking out a
series of just like unhinged sort of like weird collateral
(37:21):
based loans. And in order for these companies to be profitable,
they have to continuously keep on completely filling up ships.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Right.
Speaker 5 (37:28):
If a ship is not full, it is not profitable
for them to run it, so you know, and and
if that's if that's not happening, the entire system literally
grinds to a halt until there's enough orders to move
things through. So even the ship that there is demand for,
right can't be shipped because these shipping companies cannot afford
to unless the entire thing is full. So the supply
chain disruptions that we are going to see from this,
(37:50):
as this sort of escalus and as this continues, and
especially in a few months if the liberation dataies go
back into effect, are catastrophic, And we really like, it's
just it's this way. You can hear the thunder, you
can see the lightning, but the storm hasn't hit yet,
and it is going to and when it does, I
don't know. I was trying to do a poetic thing
about how we're all going to get fucking dredged, but
(38:10):
we're fucked. It's going to be unbelievably bad. And the
only process right now inside of the administration that doesn't
involve like some kind of mobilization is like, again, is
Leutnik winning this fucking intra intra administration political battle with Navarro?
Speaker 2 (38:27):
So woo, well, pre order your Nintendo switch too right now.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
In other news, the Minnesota Attorney General is assuming the
Trump DMin over the executive order about trans women participating
in school sports, saying he will quote not to participate
in a shameful bullying and also says that this order
violates the Minnesota Human Rights Act. So we'll see some
(38:53):
more court cases over this in the weeks to come.
I'd like to talk a little bit about student crackdowns
for Palestine protests, kind of in a different way we've
discussed like ICE going after and detaining and deporting and
taking away visas and green cards, so unrelated to that
side of it. On the morning of Wednesday, April twenty third,
(39:16):
the FBI served multiple search warrants in southeast Michigan, presumably
related to Palestine protests and encampments from the past year.
There's also some reporting of law enforcement activity in other states,
like Pennsylvania, but I'm still waiting to confirm that. The
press secretary for the Michigan Attorney General confirms investigators executed
(39:37):
search warrants for three homes. He said that people were
briefly detained during the execution of these warrants, but they
were all eventually released, and he noted, quote there is
no immigration enforcement angle to the execution of these search
warrants unquote, so these people aren't being investigated by ICE
to get deported necessarily. This is seemingly for other protest activity.
(40:00):
A pro Palestine student group says that these rates happened
at around eight am quote. Early this morning, police an
FBI agents rated four residences of University of Michigan pro
Palestine protesters, refusing to show warrants. They seized all electronics
and a number of personal belongings on quote. But let's
close this episode by returning to my most Stephen Colbert
(40:23):
Skibbity Biden segment, Stinky Musk, which is still the worst
day I've come up with. Last Tuesday, Elon Musk said
that quote working for the government to get the financial
house in order is mostly done unquote, So Musk is
moving closer to stepping back from DOGE this May, around
the time that his Special Government Employee designation is set
to expire. Reporting from Washington Post claims that Musk is
(40:47):
growing tired of the vicious and unethical attacks from the
left and that is kind of dragging on him, with
other reports suggesting that Musk is annoying other Cabinet members
and administration officials more than Trump himself. In fact, just
this Wednesday, a few hours before recording, Musk and Bessett,
we're having a pretty intense shouting match in the White House.
(41:09):
Going forward, Musk says that he plans to work for
the government about one to two days a week for
the remainder of the Trump presidency so that he can
quote make sure that the waste and fraud that we've
stopped does not come roaring back unquote. He keeps referring
to his work at DOGE is like being already completed. Essentially,
we already found all of the fraud, and now we
(41:30):
just have to make sure more fraud doesn't happen. We've
previously reported on the alleged fraud that he claims to
have found and the false numbers up on the doge site.
But it seems like this work really is like winding
down the musk. Doge like reply to this email with
five things you've done this week, or else be fired.
Directive has essentially sputted out senior officials did not comply
(41:50):
with the core aspects of the directive. It was never
really enforced, and the Trump Office of Personal Management later
said that this was voluntary and that OPIUM officials may've
never actually ever read those response emails at all. Though
a small number of agencies are still requiring compliance with
this mandate, and in some fun news, Tesla stock just
(42:13):
continues to decline, dropping to half its peak from last December,
and anti Tesla vandalism is potentially spiking the cost of
Tesla insurance. Tesla had a just disastrous earnings call this Tuesday,
April twenty second, showing that Tesla profits have fell seventy
one percent over the first three months of the year.
(42:34):
A total revenue has decreased nine percent compared to twenty
twenty four, with car sales revenue dropping twenty percent compared
to a year earlier. The Tesla CFO stated that quote,
the negative impact of vandalism and unwarranted hostility towards our
brand and our people had an impact in certain markets unquote.
In a company statement before this earnings call, Tesla claimed
(42:56):
dot quote unquote a changing political sentiment could impact demand
for their product. Musk announce that he would be shifting
his attention back to Tesla and that his Doge time
allocation will quote unquote drop significantly. Musk talked tariffs on
this earnings call and tried to carefully like not bash
(43:17):
Trump while stating concerns over the high tariffs, saying quote,
I've been on the record many times as saying I
believe lower tariffs are generally a good idea, but this
decision is fundamentally up to the elected representative of the people,
being the President of the United States. So you know,
I'll continue to advocate for lower tariffs, but that's all
I can do.
Speaker 4 (43:38):
Unquote.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Any thoughts on Musk and Tesla here before we close.
Speaker 5 (43:44):
Yeah, one thing I want to remind everyone that is
genuinely good news is that the thing about Tesla sales
dropping is that it actually fucks them in two different ways,
right because because again most of the most of their
money is from these carbon credits that they're selling. But
the thing is, in order to be able to get
the carbon credits, they do need to be able to
sell cars totally. And so each like subsequent cycle of
(44:04):
people not buying cars is also destroying their carbon credit subsidies,
which is like this sort of like spiraling like cash
crisis thing. So you know, look, zero Tesla sales as possible,
we can keep driving at world as possible.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
We can destroy these bastards.
Speaker 5 (44:21):
We can ruin this one guy specifically's life, and it's
not even that difficult.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
So yeah, well, we reported the news.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
We reported the news.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
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I'm joined by Mio Wong, James Stout, and Robert Evans.
This episode, we're covering the week of April seventeen to
April twenty three. Jd Vance has killed the Pope. A
(00:27):
second pete hegseath on authorized signal chat has hit the
Department of Defense. The White House announces that the Education
Department will start collecting on defaulted student loans. Beanie clad
Tim Poole joins the White House press pool, and hippie
Facebook moms rejoice with artificial food dies being banned across America.
How are we doing, everybody?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
So, after hearing that, fine, I guess I outlived the Pope.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I outlive the Pope.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
You have to live several more decades to like outlive
the pope. Officially, I think he was eighty eight, So
he did it and did it.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Thank goodness he did not die on Hitler's birthday, because
that would have been a whole other, whole other, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I'm still one day off. I'm thinking back to my
Catechism classes and trying to remember, like Pope dead on Easter,
good sign are bad?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
That's definitely a sign and get some kind.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Of shine do we? How do we take that?
Speaker 5 (01:22):
Shout out to the Pistons for holding off winning a
playoff game just long enough for the Pope to die,
such that Francistory's entire tournament office never saw a Pistons
playoff win. Congratulations to the Pistons, Gradulations to the City
of Detroit. Congratulations were withholding that from the Pope?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Didn't that mean love to see it? Did Pope Francis
have a strong opinion on the Pistons that he expressed
at some point because I may have missed that.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
No, he knew they were in a Macomore song, so
therefore he hated them.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
He was a huge mcle fan. Yeah, a lot of
people don't know this, but the entire time the Pope
is lying in state, they're just going to be looping
thrift shop. So yeah, as Pope Francis wanted.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Yeah, that was his dying wish.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Do you know who else probably used to listen to
mackilmore not anymore because he got too woke. But Pete
hegg Seth seems like us. He's like a twenty twelve
Macklemore guy.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah it might have been. Might have been.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
He was sharing plans for you many air strikes with
his wife, his brother and a personal lawyer in another signal.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Chat, I do the same thing.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Yeah, well yeah, you've yet to act on your plans.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
It's a difference. They are not interested.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Looping at the lawyers the real like God to your
move there.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
That's so funny because I mean it says so much
both about like what's going on in Pete heg Seth's brain,
but of the quality of lawyer, because any lawyer worth
assault would be like please your movie chat.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah, you need to get me out of this chat.
What is wrong with you? Are you? Are you texting
me missile package information?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
That's the thing.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Though, we've gotten great every like this guy from Julianti,
from all of the lawyers, these like random cartoon dipshits.
The right keeps finding that like they will just hand
you a law degree. Like if you hand the state
enough money, they will just hand you a law degree.
And you can just like bullshit your way to the
bar and you'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Like they get that. Shout out to anyone you can
tell a really good lawyer in a room where legal
things are being discussed. And I've had this happen several
times because they just leave, they bounce, they get the
fuck out of the room. And that's a smart lawyer.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Yeah. I don't know if you saw it, but the
State of California was using AI to say it's bar
exam questions.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
So ohird. You don't even have to be so that
the AI would be able to tell you, don't text
you your wife, lawyer and sun classified information about missile strikes.
But whatever.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Now, hopefully if they start using AI more to get
through school, they won't have they won't have as many
student loans to be collected on. Yeah, of practice that
has been paused since March of twenty twenty, set to
be resumed on May fifth. And then, Man, the Timpoole
thing was really wild. Press Secretary Carolyn Levitt gave a
(04:06):
give a glowing introduction to Tim Poole's addition to the
press room, and Tim's first question to the administration was
was asking why news media just lies so much about Trump.
Fantastic journalism here from comrade Tim, really probing question. Let's
pivot towards RFK and the concerning registry that has been discussed,
(04:31):
which is a word you never like to hear. Whenever
someone brings up the concept of a registry, it's usually.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Bad, always bad. So I'm going to talk in general
about what RFK, the things that he has said, not
just about autistic Americans, but about people who are receiving
psychiatric medication, people who are addicted to opiates, people who
are utilizing like stimulants, by which I mean ADHD medicine,
which if you have ADHD, that's not exactly the way
(04:58):
it functions, but that's the way he frames it. Because
these are all tied together, right. I have some frustrations
with kind of how it's been taken on social media
that I think are not causing people to worry when
they don't need to worry, but look at maybe sort
of the wrong area to see the immediate threat coming from.
So first I'm going to start with like what has
(05:18):
been said, and before we get to the registry, we
have to go back to what he was talking about
on the campaign trail because prior and this is prior
to him endorsing Donald Trump. When our FK Junior was
like an individual like running for president on his own
under his independent campaign, he started talking about wellness farms, right,
and these were specifically in the language that he use,
(05:41):
places that people who were addicted to psychiatric medication antidepressants
he named specifically antidepressants and stimulants as well as people
with opiate addictions, right, and he has since talked about
other drug addictions as well. Could go to spend three
or four years working on a farm. He always frames
it as also like learning skills. So it's this mix
(06:03):
of I want people to be able to work in
this in you know, lovely bucolic, you know agrarian setting
where they'll gain working skills. And then there's also pepperedin
these very frightening phrases like they need to be reparented
right now. In addition to this, he's not just that
this is all focused on Americans who are taking medications
(06:25):
that he thinks are over over prescribed or purely unnecessary. Right,
that's always the way, Like psychiatric medication. He almost has
a scientologist attitude towards it that like this is all
essentially unnecessary and obviously you know, all of this stuff
comes out of their elements of this that were true
at one point. For example, back in the nineties, like
Riddlin was wildly over prescribed to kids. But the way
(06:48):
in which he's translated this now is that basically everyone
on a stimulant, everyone on an antidepressant is on it unnecessarily.
And in a podcast in twenty twenty four, he went
further by kind of tying a lot of this to race,
specifically stating quote, every black kid is now just standard
put on adderall on SSRIs benzos, which are known to
(07:08):
induce violence, and those kids are going to have a
chance to go somewhere and get reparented. So that's all
deeply concerning.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
It's like kidnapping children. And forcibly, like demedicating.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I will say, that's not how he has framed it.
So one of the things is people I've heard it
phrases like rfks admitted he wants to imprison millions of
Americans in camps, and like, that's not what he said.
The direct quotes about this are not framed as a
mandatory thing. It's framed as a replacement for other treatments
that people can choose to go into and choose to leave.
(07:41):
That's what he's said, right, Okay, Now, perfectly reasonable when
a guy in an administration like this is talking about
putting up camps to be like, well, I don't know
if I believe him, but it's not accurate that he
said he wants to arrest millions of people and force
them onto camps. He just has not said that, right, Yeah, yeah,
And I think it behooves us to be honest about
what he said. I think it also who's to talk about,
(08:01):
like where this idea comes from, right, and what he's
looking back to. And again, a lot of the issue
here is not necessarily what RFK might do, but the
fact that he might not be there forever, and if
he starts establishing this this kind of kind of program
that starts in an attempt to be something that is more,
you can choose to be on these camps or not.
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There's certainly willingness within the Republican Party to force people
into different kinds of quote unquote treatment like this. And
one thing I think that particularly is the way in
which the right has liked to shift blame for gun
violence and mass shootings off of the availability of firearms
and onto people who are on psychiatric medication right, And
this is an area in which I could see someone
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taking over from RFK or pushing past the things he
specifically has stated he wants to do, because I think
he does come out of a more quack medicine goal here,
putting people forcibly in camps and colonies like this, I.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Mean, like the idea of like reparenting, I guess is
deeply problem Yes, incredibly scary phrase, but it is worth
noting as there's a very good teen Vogue article on
the matter called RFK wants to send people to wellness farms.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
The US already tried that that talks about the actual
background that he is hearkening back to, because he is
not His vision of wellness farms is not like the
Nazi concentration camp. Which doesn't mean that it's not possible
that things could wind up in a much darker direction.
But this gives you an idea of the history that
he is specifically calling back to. Quote beginning of the
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eighteen nineties and continuing through the first decades of the
twentieth century, epileptic and feeble minded colonies sprung up around
the US. The initial purpose of these colonies was to
remove patients from overcrowded, badly run asylums and poorhouses in
favor of farm life, where they would have access to
the outdoors. Under the colony model, patients generally lived in
cottages designed to be more homelike than institutional Patients were
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also given jobs, and many were expected to work on
colony farms, where they grew their own food. Doctor William Sprattling,
the medical suit superintendent of the Craig Colony for Epileptics
in New York, declared that the farm model meant nature,
the great restorer, will have an opportunity to do her best.
It didn't work. Supporters of the colony model argued that
with time, clean air, sunshine, and a restricted diet, physical
labor could heal patients, but that didn't happen. Data from
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the Craig Colony, one of the America's first epileptic colonies,
illustrates this point. During the nineteen forties, thanks to funding
and staff limitations because of World War II, conditions in
North America's institutions were particularly grim. The institutions nineteen forty
three to nineteen forty four annual report to the State
Commission of Mental hygiene shows that less than one percent
of patients were discharged is cured that year. During that
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same period, over two hundred patients attempted to leave the
colony without permission, and five percent of the total patient
population died. And so I mean, that's reason enough to
be deeply worried, right, the fact that without saying like
RFK wants to do what the Nazis did, RFK wants
to do what the America already did, and it killed
a huge number of the people who were interned in
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those camps. And I guess the thing I keep bringing
up is that when I think about what the threat
model is more than fucking Auschwitz for people who want
our NSSRIS, it's a Judge Rotenberg Center on every corner.
It's camps like these where costs are going to be
cut and there's not going to be good access for
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any kind of independent monitors to make sure health and
safety are being followed. It's not that people are going
to be shoveled into ovens. It's that as a result
of this system being incompetently applied to the most vulnerable.
And I'm not even talking about my worry at the moment,
being that everyone on an SSR will be forced in
it's going to be poor kids. And RFK has already
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talked about that, right, Like, that's why he's focusing on
the black kids, right, that's who they're going for. We've
had some people post up in the subreddit being like,
I know I'm going to go to a camp because
I have autism, or I know I've alway to go
to a camp because i have ADHD. And I'm telling you,
I'm not saying don't be scared of fascism. I'm saying
this is where to fight right now. It's not RFK
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wants to send every adult on an SSRI into a
death camp. It's that they're going to try and be
putting these kids instead of you know, the different juvenile
programs that exist, instead of any kind of functional medical program,
They're going to force them into facilities like this. And
it's going to become easier for facilities like the Judge
Rotenberg Center, which horribly abuses and tortures autistic kids, to
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spread and to get state and federal funding. Like and
that's the threat, right, It's an extension of what we're
doing and what we've done. It's not a carbon copy
of what the Nazis are doing or did speaking of
the Nazis, and we're back. So a couple of things
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happen in quick succession that is responsible in part for
like why people are so freaked out, and rightfully so.
One of them is that RFK gave a speech on
the back of new data that showed yet another rise
in the rate of autism diagnoses, and as I said
on a previous episode, it's because we're looking for it more.
But he made a statement about people with profound autism
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not being able to pay taxes or write poems, you know,
or that sort of thing. And while he was he
was specifically talking about people with quote unquote profound autism,
it's reasonable for people to assume, like, yeah, but that's
just kind of what he sees is basically everyone, right,
and I don't think that that's an unfair assumption. And
then coming right up on the heels of that, there
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was an announcement from the NIH, the National Institutes of
Health about RFK Junior's new effort to quote unquote study autism.
And basically, what they're going to be doing is collecting
comprehensive patient data with broad coverage of the US population
and kind of organizing it within the NIH. This is
the first time this has been done. But they are
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going to be grabbing basically everything they can get their
hands on. And we're talking about a mix of medication
records from pharmacies, lab testing records, genomic data from people
who like go to the Department of the basically data
taken by the VA, data taken by the Indian Health Service,
as well as data from private insurers. And they're also
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going to be buying data from smartwatchs stuff like fitbits. Right,
who does sell their data to anybody with like twenty
dollars hanging out the back of their pocket. And as
a heads up, if you are looking for a fitness tracker,
you should look more into this. There are a few
that have reasonably good data protection histories. Garman is one
of them. This does not mean it's perfect. All of
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them will hand over your data if given a court
order to do so. None of them are going to
break the law to hold on to your data. But
Garman doesn't just like sell willy nilly to anybody who
wants to like advertise based on it. Right that said,
most of them do the last thing I'd write was
something like twelve out of fifteen different free fitness tracks
apps they checked sold data pretty widely, So yeah, about
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eighty percent. Yeah, it's the vast majority. Right, So, the
NIH is basically looking at taking the data that exists.
They're not talking about really gathering new data, but they
they are talking about collecting everything that exists and putting
it under one roof for the first time. And this
is for a couple of purposes. Right. They want to
be able to track the spread of different illnesses and
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different health problems within the population. These are their claims,
but also they want to create a disease registry specifically
to track Americans with autism. Right, And this is because
Kennedy describes autism as a preventable disease, which is not accurate.
And the fact that this database and these other databases
are being made should be very worrisome. Right, It's both
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important to talk about the fact that he is specifically
signaling out autism while also stating like, that's not the
only thing they're looking into. Right. They want data on
people who are on SSRIs, who are on ADHD medication.
They probably want data on drug use. Right. There are
a lot of things they are looking to be gathering,
and none of it is shit that they should have
access for.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah, you can certainly see them expanding this out to
like hormone replacement therapy, transior healthcare, yes, yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
And also like the apps attract like menstrual cycles right, yes, people,
excess and reproductive healthcare.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
And again the immediate plan, I'm sorry, I simply don't.
I don't think that RFK Junior's master plan is the
mass arrest of everybody who with autism in the United
States and forcing them into a camp. I don't think
that's what he wants, in part because his number one,
his base of support is a lot of the parents
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of these kids. And I'm not saying those parents don't
want to do things that they are already doing things
to their kids that are harmful, But those parents want
control over what they see as their kids health care.
They want the freedom to experiment with medications on their
kids to quote unquote fix them. And this data is
going to be used both to provide basically to be
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massaged to provide evidence that different treatments that don't do
shit do in fact work. And I think I have
suspicions of financial interests there. I keep getting questioned like, well,
what do you think is going to happen when the
autism cures don't work, Well, then they're going to put
people in camps. No, the autism cures already don't work.
This is an industry. They make money off of this.
They make money off of drugging and medically torturing these children.
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And as far that is, the threat is that it
is going to get easier to do at a larger scale,
and it is going to be harder to fight, even
illegal to provide good information on what does and does
not work. And that is what's happening right now as
opposed to something we might be worried about, you know,
years down the line. And yes, we should fight anytime
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the government is trying to put populations of people into
a motherfucking database like this, we should fight all of
this tooth and nail. I just think this is what
I see as the danger. You know, Yeah, the risk
is this to centralized stuff. It's a centralized acceleration for
things that have already been happening, less so than just
like large skilled direct sator intervention.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Yeah, I think a lot about like in the context
of this like quote unquote wilderness therapy programs. Right, yes,
Roberts covered these, but which have been abusing children for years.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
And that is what I see when we talk about
these these farms. Again, my worry is not RFK wants
to forcibly put everybody into fucking Auschwitz Part two. It's
RFK wants a hundred times as many teen treatment facilities
where kids who disobey are get in trouble with the
large caught it fucking protests, can be forced to labor,
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and an amount of them will die and all of
them will suffer permanent mental and physical damage as a
result of being put in these places.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah, like the behavioral improvement centers that are you could
even be part of, you know, like like community service.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Yes, yeah, it's extensions of what we do. It's extremely American,
you know. I just that's that's where my head is.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Yeah, it's not great. So talking of where I guess
where my head is is immigration, Right, That's what I
tend to update us on. So I guess I've seen
it characterize as like legal ping pong between the courts
and the DOJ. It would be like if one side
was playing ping pong with a regular tennis racket, and
everyone was just pretending that they weren't right, Like the
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doj is just continuing to kind of flout these court orders.
If we start from the top and go down, the
Supreme Court temporarily banned the government from renditioning Venezuelan men
in the district of North Texas to El Salvador. I
think people maybe sometimes this got a little misinterpreted on
social media, like you have to look at who the
class was, and the class was a group of Venezuelan
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men who were in immigration detention in North Texas who
were going to be sent to Well Saladore, and that
was who got the relief. The case at the time
was pending before the US Court of Appeals for the
Fifth Circuit, and the Supreme Court said that once that
court active, the government could appeal to the Supreme Court. However,
they added, the government should not, and I'm quoting here,
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remove any member of the putative class of detainees from
the United States until further order of this Court.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I e.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
The Supreme Court to update on the case, which we've
covered a lot here. The Abrego Garcia case. Judge Genies
ordered expedited discover. Discovery is when both parties in a lawsuit,
like a mass information right, they're able to find out information.
And in this case, the government more or less ignored this,
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and it did so by sticking to its line that
they can't bring him home to the United States, saying
that the requests were and I'm quoting again here, based
on the false premise that the United States can or
has been ordered to facilitate Abrego Garcia's released from custody
in El Salvulo. Their claiming they were ordered to return him,
and somehow in their minds, returning him does not include
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ensuring his release, like they're saying that they're only obliged
to transport him should he be released anyway.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Genie's in a.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Court order, called this quote a wilful and bad faith
refusal to comply with the discovery obligations. Geni's also called
the government's assertions of executive privilege quote equally specious. The
City of Hyattsville in this case also clarified through a
press release that quote, at no time did any member
of HPD identify or file any report classifying Abrego Garcia
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as a member of any gang. Despite this, the executive
branch is still going with that he's a violent gang member.
They also doxed his wife this week by releasing a
protective order that she had once filed and withdrawn, and
when that was released, it contained her address, so she's
now hiding in a safe house.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
They photoshopped a MS thirteen tattoo onto his knuckles above
a weed leaf tattoo, a smiley face across and a skull.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Yeah, that's what they're going with. I guess specious is
a specious is a good word?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (22:06):
Just hideous nonsense?
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Yeah, no, absolutely obscenely ridiculed. And then the other angler
says is I'm just saying that you don't have a
right to do process right like openly, just like Miller
has been saying this. Jd Vance has been saying this
on x dot com that like, these people don't have
a right to do process for that. They've come up
with various arguments for that. It also seems like two
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people sent twelve Salbador no longer appear on any official
list of detainees. Yeah, which is concerning one of them,
Ricardo Pradovasquez. He's not among the two hundred and thirty
eight people we know on the manifest for those sent
twelve Salbador. He doesn't appear to be in Venice Whaler,
which is where his passport is from. And the fact
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that the government claims that they sent him. The government
has said they sent him on the March fifteenth flights.
He's not listed there. He's not visible in photos. Has
led to concerns that we might have sent more people
to Asarbadorre than we currently know about. He entered the
country with a CBP one appointment. Right, which of all
the ways to enter is the one that the US
government was trying to force people to use at that time.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Right, he very like legally entered the country. Yes.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Yeah, to be clear, he entered at a port of
entry with an appointment to claim asylum. He appears made
a mistake when delivering food and ended up driving into
Canada and was arrested when he attempted to return to
the United States. He doesn't show up on the ICE
detainee locator, and essentially no one knows where he is right.
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This concern has been compounded by the fact that it
also emerged this week that the US has sent at
least one detainee, Omar Abdul sata Amin to Rwanda, and
the combination of these two things raises a concern that
they are sending third country nationals to detention in other
countries that we are not yet aware of. Right, of course,
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the Rwanda Plan was something that the UK government hatched
a long time ago, and the Kagami government in Rwanda
seems to see this offer right as a way of
gaining legitimacy with governments in the global North, especially given
the widespread criticism for its actions in the Democratic Republic
of Congo. Recently, from the Handbasket, which is like a
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kind of substacky outlet, they've reviewed memos between the US
government and the embassy in Rwanda, and I'm quoting from
one of them here. The US provided a one time
payment of one hundred thousand dollars to support social services,
residency documents, and work permits. Rwanda has also, according to
the Handbasket, agreed to accept ten more third country nationals.
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So the US is paying Rwanda a little bit more
than it's paying El salbad Or. Right, it was paying
El salborda twenty thousand per person per year, but it's
a one time payment. Nonetheless, I struggle to believe that
you could concoct a way in which it would cost
Wander one hundred grand to produce a residency document and
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a work permit for an Iraqi national. But yeah, this
has obviously led to the concern that people are being
sent to other places that we don't yet know about
talking to people being sent to other places. A US citizen,
Jose Hermosille, was detained by ice after approaching a border
patrol agent to ask for directions.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
He was detained for ten days.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
DHS is claiming that he was arrested near the Nogales
border and that he approached the border patrol agent and
upon doing so, identified himself as a non citizen who
was not in the country legally, which is what they claim. Yes,
so Hermaiceo disputes this along with his lawyers. He says
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he approached the agent looking for directions, having had a
seizure and been in the hospital and when he got
out of hospital was trying to work out where to go.
He is from New Mexico, but he was visiting his
girlfriend's family in Tucson. He told the agent he was
from New Mexico, and the agent accused him of lying.
In his account, DHS has to produce a transcript with
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I'm not going to call it a signature because it
just has the word Jose written underneath it. Right, Mister Hermercio,
according to his girlfriend, has some learning difficulties, and by
her account, he wouldn't have been able to read the
English language transcript that he's alleged to have signed. So, like,
whether or not he signed this is rather a material right.
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He clearly, judging by her account, was not aware that
he was in it. Judging by this, this is not
even a signature with a last name. It's laughable to
suggest that he like consentingly signed this. But nonetheless, he
was detained for ten days till his family produced his
documents in court.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, he was arrested quote unquote without proper immigration documents,
which you don't carry around when you're a US citizen.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Yeah, you're not obliged to please.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
You don't need that. His family brought his Social Security
card certificate to court, and eventually the case against him
was dismissed after being held by Ice for ten days.
This reminds me of a similar case from this past week,
where a US citizen was detained on Wednesday the sixteenth.
This is a twenty year old born in Georgia, Juan
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Carlo's Lopez Gomez. He was pulled over while driving to
work near the Florida border. He doesn't speak much English
or Spanish. He speaks an indigenous mind language, but he
gave his real ID card and Social Security card over
to a state trooper. He was detained and charged with
illegally entering the state as a quote unquote unauthorized alien. Similarly,
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the trooper claims that Lopez Gomez said that he was
in the country illegally. This is like some kind of
communication error or these law enforcement officers are just like
lying or trying to construct like language traps to make
someone agree to a statement that admits that they're in
the country legally, which allows them to be detained. He
was put into a twenty four hour ice hold. The
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next day, a federal judge verified his birth certificate, which
is brought by his mother, but claims to lack the
authority to release him, though he was released later Thursday night,
and he was arrested under a new Florida law signed
by the Santas last month, which a judge blocked earlier
this month. On April fourth. This basically allows the state
troopers to act as their state's own like border patrol,
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and it penalizes immigants who quote unquote knowingly enter or
attempt to enter the state after entering the United States
by eluding or avoiding examination or inspection by immigration officers.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
Yeah, and like the common thing here, right is that
they're just we've seen this. There are a bunch of
other cases that are like this too, where it's just
like they see someone who's not white and they're just like, yeah,
fuck it, we can grab this person and then just
live about what they said. It's like it's not even very.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Based on racial profiling.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
Yeah, but it's like things it's like it's not even
it's not even like racial profiling anymore. Like it's it's
they're just attempting to black bag like random non white
people that they're just running across. Yes, and so of
course they're like grabbing US citizens r because they're just
grabbing random people. But it's like they're just fucking doing
this to everyone. This has happened in other states as well.
There's been instance like this like the past few months,
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which have which have increased in frequency since Trump has
taken office. Yeah, let's go on a break and return
to talk tariff. Okay, we are back. How's the how's
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the economy going?
Speaker 2 (29:44):
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Speaker 6 (29:49):
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Speaker 2 (29:55):
Bock do not like? Okay, Mia, what can you tell
us about tariffs?
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Week?
Speaker 5 (30:00):
So we got a look inside the White House this
week at how the tariff, the turf tariff suspension happened. Now,
remember so there was there was the deliberation day tariffs
a few weeks ago, and then they got suspended for
ninety days. So we're all still on the ninety day
countdone clock on those being unsuspended. But we got a
view of how that happened from the Wall Street Journal,
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and the Wall Street Journal reports that Secretary Treasurer Scott
Bessett and Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnik basically waited until Trump
advisor Peter Navarro was out of the room, and then
it was in a meeting, and then they cornered Trump
and we're like, you gotta roll these terror you gotta
do this pause on the tariffs.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Honestly iconic, you know, I hate to say it, but iconic.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
This was also all the first TRUP administration ran, and
everyone appears to have forgotten that this is how all
of the shit works.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Well, because there was a there were all those stories
for the first couple of weeks about how smooth and
well run it was and everything.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
It's slow, yeah, and like the many people assume that
there was like a plan behind this, and like, no, no,
I am fucking vindicated. They really are just this fucking stupid, Like, no,
there is not a grand strategy behind this sort of
like tariff rollout.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Right.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
There is a senile old man and his stupid warring advisors,
and they're both fighting each other basically for like they're
they're they're they're they're trying like they're they're trying to
wait until the other persons out of the room so
they can grab control of the fucking puppet reins. But
this this does actually lay bare something that's sort of
important about this, which is that like there is a
huge fight inside of the Trump administration between kind of
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lutnik who's like the representative of a bunch of different
sort of sectors of American capital, right, Like he he's
a representative of like you're fucking like Walgreens, dipshits, right,
and like he's also representative of with the finance people,
and those people are losing their fucking minds over the
tariffs because it's again going to destroy the economy. But
Navarro is you know, it's just like a hardline sort
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of like anti China ideologue. And and Navarro is the
person who's been driving the most intense versions of these tariffs.
And it's a real issue for everyone else in the
administration who doesn't want this to happen because Navarro is
like the one guy in the administrator in the Trump
actually likes and so they can't directly move against him
because they lose. Like Elon Musk tried this and like
it got nowhere. And so you know what we've been
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seeing is is just like again, the tariff policy here
is just being set by who's the last person in
the room with him. Yeah, so we're probably still like
about sixty days ish out from these terrorists coming back
into effect. I mean this basically means like they'll be
hitting in the summer, which is also just like absolutely
the worst conceivable time for these terrifts to take effect
(32:41):
in terms of like if you were just like deliberately
trying to cause a massive popular mobilization against you. This
is what you would do. They're not that, they're just dumb,
but like, you know, so okay, let's most move on
to the sort of big news of this week is
the press has been carrying stories about Trump backing off
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of the one hundred and forty five percent China tariffs
and the fact that there's going to be negotiations and
it's all going to get wound down, and like, I'm
pretty sure this is just kind of pure lutnik shit
to try to calm the markets down. The issue with
this story is that there are no negotiations, right. Everyone
keeps talking about how the US is going to do
(33:22):
negotiated settlement with China. There have not been any negotiations.
There are not negotiations. There has not even been a
process to start negotiations, because you know, the last stories
we had about this was that like neither side wants
to be the person to like start going to the
table because like asking the other side for negotiations makes
them look weak. Like Trump has been asking China to
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ask him the cert of negotiations. The Chinese are refusing.
And the second issue here, and this is The more
substantive problem with with a sort of negotiated back out
is that the Trump Navarro position hinges on the line
that the trade deficit inherently like with China, is proof
of Chinese market manipulation. And the thing is, there's no
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actual way to systematically address that, right, Like there's that
there's nothing that like either China or the US could
do that would that would reverse the trade deficit. So
there's no sort of like you know, like yeah, like
like the obvious way out here would be for like
Trump to take some kind of weird symbolic victory and
like China to be like we're doing a fenntional crackdown
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or some shit. But the thing is, like, ideologically for
someone like Navarro, and Navarro is the important figure here,
like Navarro just wants trying to destroy it.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Right There's there's no actual.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
Negotiating process that he can do that will actually sort
of like make this like negotiation shit happen and have
it actually like eliminated tariffs. The only thing that can
happen basically is a political battle inside of the Trump
administration where Davarro gets pushed out somehow. But again, Navarro
is like Trump's guy. So I I just don't buy
all of this, all of the fucking stories that are
(34:55):
coming out, And this happens constantly, every single time there's
one of these things, there's all these stories being like,
well they're gonna get rolled back. It does actually mean this,
and that just happens. Right, we have one hundred and
forty five percent rais on China. Now, the last thing
I want to talk about is what the actual effects
of this has been. And the effect is that it
has been. There's been a massive slow down and a
massive like shutdown in in exports from China to the US,
(35:16):
like an internship container ship traffic. Right, we're talking about
I'm just gonna quote from CNBC here. So they're talking
about Optimizer, which is like a tracking system for ships,
and they said, quote, year on year, the data shows
a forty four percent drop in vessels schedule to arrive
the week of May.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Fourth to May tenth.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
Now that that's not actually necessarily a forty percent drop
in traffic, because there'll be more shit when like other
boats get full. But you know, to put this into perspective, right,
during the worst for trade, the worst parts of the
COVID lockdowns the year and a year drop was only
twenty percent, so and twenty percent is the number that's
been that's been being spread around the media for like
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what roughly the drop looks like for some companies is
larger than others. And again, the tariff, we still haven't
even seen the actual shocks of the tariffs yet, and
we're already seeing a decline in experts from China that
is like again around the level of the lockdowns. And
and you know, I think like people remember like the
kind of unhinged shit that that caused, right, and that's
(36:17):
something that you know is only going to intensify. And
the other part of this, right is that the strategies
right now for how this is being dealt with is
moving through Vietnam, moving through Cambodia. But if you remember
the rates from the original sort of like turf tariffs
from Liberation Day, right, like the teriff from Vietnam was
like one hundred percent or some shit, it was like
eighty percent. I don't remember, zat my head, but like
(36:39):
there's no actual viable strategy of just of ways you
can route these goods through and it's been especially hitting
the sort of drop shipping companies, right, like people like
Temu and anything that realts in air phrase just getting fucked.
And so this is all just you know, just sort
of rolling in the background, is just this logistics crisis,
and it's it's it's it's also an echo crisis. And
(37:00):
this thing I actually want to close this section on
is that, Like, so the big issue with these sort
of empty boats, right and these cancelations at boat orders,
is that in order for it to be profitable, because
all of these these shipping companies run on such low margins, right,
they only barely survive the pandemic by taking out a
series of just like unhinged sort of like weird collateral
(37:21):
based loans. And in order for these companies to be profitable,
they have to continuously keep on completely filling up ships.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Right.
Speaker 5 (37:28):
If a ship is not full, it is not profitable
for them to run it, so you know, and and
if that's if that's not happening, the entire system literally
grinds to a halt until there's enough orders to move
things through. So even the ship that there is demand for,
right can't be shipped because these shipping companies cannot afford
to unless the entire thing is full. So the supply
chain disruptions that we are going to see from this,
(37:50):
as this sort of escalus and as this continues, and
especially in a few months if the liberation dataies go
back into effect, are catastrophic, And we really like, it's
just it's this way. You can hear the thunder, you
can see the lightning, but the storm hasn't hit yet,
and it is going to and when it does, I
don't know. I was trying to do a poetic thing
about how we're all going to get fucking dredged, but
(38:10):
we're fucked. It's going to be unbelievably bad. And the
only process right now inside of the administration that doesn't
involve like some kind of mobilization is like, again, is
Leutnik winning this fucking intra intra administration political battle with Navarro?
Speaker 2 (38:27):
So woo, well, pre order your Nintendo switch too right now.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
In other news, the Minnesota Attorney General is assuming the
Trump DMin over the executive order about trans women participating
in school sports, saying he will quote not to participate
in a shameful bullying and also says that this order
violates the Minnesota Human Rights Act. So we'll see some
(38:53):
more court cases over this in the weeks to come.
I'd like to talk a little bit about student crackdowns
for Palestine protests, kind of in a different way we've
discussed like ICE going after and detaining and deporting and
taking away visas and green cards, so unrelated to that
side of it. On the morning of Wednesday, April twenty third,
(39:16):
the FBI served multiple search warrants in southeast Michigan, presumably
related to Palestine protests and encampments from the past year.
There's also some reporting of law enforcement activity in other states,
like Pennsylvania, but I'm still waiting to confirm that. The
press secretary for the Michigan Attorney General confirms investigators executed
(39:37):
search warrants for three homes. He said that people were
briefly detained during the execution of these warrants, but they
were all eventually released, and he noted, quote there is
no immigration enforcement angle to the execution of these search
warrants unquote, so these people aren't being investigated by ICE
to get deported necessarily. This is seemingly for other protest activity.
(40:00):
A pro Palestine student group says that these rates happened
at around eight am quote. Early this morning, police an
FBI agents rated four residences of University of Michigan pro
Palestine protesters, refusing to show warrants. They seized all electronics
and a number of personal belongings on quote. But let's
close this episode by returning to my most Stephen Colbert
(40:23):
Skibbity Biden segment, Stinky Musk, which is still the worst
day I've come up with. Last Tuesday, Elon Musk said
that quote working for the government to get the financial
house in order is mostly done unquote, So Musk is
moving closer to stepping back from DOGE this May, around
the time that his Special Government Employee designation is set
to expire. Reporting from Washington Post claims that Musk is
(40:47):
growing tired of the vicious and unethical attacks from the
left and that is kind of dragging on him, with
other reports suggesting that Musk is annoying other Cabinet members
and administration officials more than Trump himself. In fact, just
this Wednesday, a few hours before recording, Musk and Bessett,
we're having a pretty intense shouting match in the White House.
(41:09):
Going forward, Musk says that he plans to work for
the government about one to two days a week for
the remainder of the Trump presidency so that he can
quote make sure that the waste and fraud that we've
stopped does not come roaring back unquote. He keeps referring
to his work at DOGE is like being already completed. Essentially,
we already found all of the fraud, and now we
(41:30):
just have to make sure more fraud doesn't happen. We've
previously reported on the alleged fraud that he claims to
have found and the false numbers up on the doge site.
But it seems like this work really is like winding
down the musk. Doge like reply to this email with
five things you've done this week, or else be fired.
Directive has essentially sputted out senior officials did not comply
(41:50):
with the core aspects of the directive. It was never
really enforced, and the Trump Office of Personal Management later
said that this was voluntary and that OPIUM officials may've
never actually ever read those response emails at all. Though
a small number of agencies are still requiring compliance with
this mandate, and in some fun news, Tesla stock just
(42:13):
continues to decline, dropping to half its peak from last December,
and anti Tesla vandalism is potentially spiking the cost of
Tesla insurance. Tesla had a just disastrous earnings call this Tuesday,
April twenty second, showing that Tesla profits have fell seventy
one percent over the first three months of the year.
(42:34):
A total revenue has decreased nine percent compared to twenty
twenty four, with car sales revenue dropping twenty percent compared
to a year earlier. The Tesla CFO stated that quote,
the negative impact of vandalism and unwarranted hostility towards our
brand and our people had an impact in certain markets unquote.
In a company statement before this earnings call, Tesla claimed
(42:56):
dot quote unquote a changing political sentiment could impact demand
for their product. Musk announce that he would be shifting
his attention back to Tesla and that his Doge time
allocation will quote unquote drop significantly. Musk talked tariffs on
this earnings call and tried to carefully like not bash
(43:17):
Trump while stating concerns over the high tariffs, saying quote,
I've been on the record many times as saying I
believe lower tariffs are generally a good idea, but this
decision is fundamentally up to the elected representative of the people,
being the President of the United States. So you know,
I'll continue to advocate for lower tariffs, but that's all
I can do.
Speaker 4 (43:38):
Unquote.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Any thoughts on Musk and Tesla here before we close.
Speaker 5 (43:44):
Yeah, one thing I want to remind everyone that is
genuinely good news is that the thing about Tesla sales
dropping is that it actually fucks them in two different ways,
right because because again most of the most of their
money is from these carbon credits that they're selling. But
the thing is, in order to be able to get
the carbon credits, they do need to be able to
sell cars totally. And so each like subsequent cycle of
(44:04):
people not buying cars is also destroying their carbon credit subsidies,
which is like this sort of like spiraling like cash
crisis thing. So you know, look, zero Tesla sales as possible,
we can keep driving at world as possible.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
We can destroy these bastards.
Speaker 5 (44:21):
We can ruin this one guy specifically's life, and it's
not even that difficult.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
So yeah, well, we reported the news.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
We reported the news.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
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