Predictive Programming, Part 1

From The Simpsons to The Hunger Games, is the deep state putting planned events into films and tv? Gare, Mia, and Robert discuss the origin of the conspiracy theory.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All Media.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome to It Could Happen here, the podcast that tells
you what's going to happen before it's happening. I'm Garrison Davis.
Joined with me is Mia Wong Glue. So today we're
gonna be talking about predictive programming, something that I assume
some conspiracy theorist has accused of the show of doing,
specifically Robert, But we're not gonna talk about us too much. Instead,

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we're going to talk about the origin of this conspiracy
theory and some famous use cases throughout history of how
you might have been affected by predictive programming the listener.
So let's start by defining our terms here. Predictive programming
is a conspiracy theory that future events are seeded within

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fictional media like film, TV, video games, and books to
subliminally influence the public perception of real world events. But
this isn't simply about movies like just predicting the future.
It's an intentional method of large scale social conditioning used
by a conspiracy of deep state government agents and the
entertainment industry. This term was coined by a conspiracy theorist

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named Alan Watt, different from the like pop Zen writer
Alan Watts. Different guy. There's a one letter difference. I'm
sure they share some amount of audience crossover, but they
are different people. He kind of coined this concept around
the early two thousands. From what I can tell, he's
a Scottish Canadian conspiracy theorist. Oddly enough, he's kind of

(01:35):
one of the least problematic conspiracy theorists that I've run into,
Like he's openly pushed back on on like anti semitism
from David Ike and Alex Jones, Like he just seems
to kind of be a silly guy. He died a
few years ago. From what I can tell, at least
on like a cursory search, he's like not the most problematic.

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I mean, obviously still a conspiracy theorist, but like kind
of like the token good conspiracy theorists. I don't know,
but he defined predictive programming as the power of suggestion
using the media of fiction to create a desired outcome.
A more expansive definition that he gave is quote, predictive
programming is a subtle form of psychological conditioning provided by

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the media to acquaint the public with planned societal changes
to implemented by the elites. If and when these changes
are put through the public will already be familiarized with
them and will accept them as natural progressions, thus lessening
any possible public resistance and commotion. Predictive programming, therefore may
be considered a veiled form of preemptive mass manipulation or

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mind control courtesy of our puppet masters. So that's Alan Watt,
that is that is his definition. Like I said, he
kind of came up with this idea in the early
two thousands, and it spread like wildfire throughout his competitors
and his contemporaries in the conspiratorial milieu. Yeah, it's really recent.
I thought it was older than that. Yeah, No, it
is a new one.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
It is.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
It is a relatively new conspiracy theory. Like it doesn't
it doesn't go all the way back to like well,
some of like the rough ideas were kind of used
by stuff, you know, going all the way back to
the John Birch Society. But the actual term predictive programming
and the modern understanding of that term are much more recent.
An Ohio State University article on the topic said, quote,

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Predictive programming, at its core is a tactic to reduce
resistance by introducing concepts that seem far fetched and continuously
reintroducing them to make these concepts appear more likely or
at the very least acceptable. So that's more of like
an outside in definition from from researchers. So let's let's
go back to Alan watch a little bit, because he's

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kind of been largely forgotten in the conspiratorial milieu, replaced
by a whole bunch of more like bombastic and troubling
figures like Jones and Ike and many many smaller, smaller
conspiracy theorists. But I listened to what I believe to
be the first kind of broadcast where where he coined
this idea as opposed to Alex Jones. Alan Watt is

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like a very like calm speaker, like he's he's actually
kind of just like pleasant to listen to because he's
just so like like calm, methodical. He's not like bombastic.
He just sounds like a regular, like chill guy. His
his website is amazing. It looks like a nineteen ninety
five website that has never been updated. It is. It

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is fantastic. I love that the website has stayed up
after his death because it is just a joy to
look at. But Alan Watt describes predictive programming as a
quote unquote ancient science. He thought that quote families of
actors go back thousands of years. They're a specialized section
of society that intermarries within their own ranks unquote. So

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like he thinks all actors come from like this one
large like intergenerational family that have been that have been
like in the profession of acting, which like is kind
of true for like the Coppolas, but like, eh, you know,
it's like, yes, there's a massive like inepotism problem, but
like no, yeah, actors art like a single family that

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goes back like millennia. But that is that that is
one of his beliefs he calls he calls producers magicians.
Quote they know what messages must be imprinted into the
minds of the audience, they know the techniques, a perfect
science unquote. He also talks about how Shakespeare was involved

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in predictive programming. Quote Shakespeare was the magician that brought
the English language into being unquote. So he said, like
Shakespeare is like the person who developed like the modern
the modern English language. Like obviously English like pre dates Shakespeare,
but like he thinks that through Shakespeare's writing, he was
able to like popularize the modern form of English, which

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just isn't true, but it's a it's a it's a
funny thing to believe. And he thinks all people are
like literal magicians, like like wizards, like you know, like
like wands, pointy hats, like they're all like doing actual
like magic. This seems like such a roundabout way of
doing this, like you can just absolutely magic. So so true,
so true ya. So, Alan Watt talks about that in

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the late sixties there was a big, weeks long international
meeting to decide that Hollywood would be the place to
create the culture of the future. He then discusses how
like Hollywood controls people through like war movies, and how
like the DoD helps Hollywood with equipment for war movies,
but they have to approve the messaging, which like that

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has like a little grain of truth in there, Like yes,
to use military equipment, you do need to get like
approval from people in the government. And yeah, there is
a form of Hollywood that is like just war propaganda
like that there is there's there's a kernel of truth here,
but not exactly in the way. Alan Watt talks about it.
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(07:02):
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we are back to talk about Alan Watt and his
predictive programming idea which has spread through the conspiratorial milieu
like wildfire. So probably the funniest thing he gets to
on this whole Hollywood as magician's rant is quote, if
you look at the word Hollywood, it means holy wood,

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which of course is the staff of the magi, the
grand magus of the occult. He waves a wand and
everything is changed. He casts the spell. So so he
thinks that Hollywood literally refers to like a magic wand,
like a holy a holywood. He then he then also

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talks about Hollywood as like as like a grove, like
like Hollywood, like the place is is is a grove
quote similar to Jewish holy groves and folklore. Moses's staff
was placed in a grove and that was a special
place for higher magi to meet. Unquote. And I don't
think he means this anti semitically, It just kind of
sounds anti Semitic, but he talks about anyway. You can't

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even blame the US of this. So those guy's Canadian
Scottish Canadian. Yeah, yeah, literally literally me, literally me. I'll
read one more Alan Watt quote here, which is just
just a banger. Hollywood is the magician's wand Holy Holly,
which has been used to hast a spell on the

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unsuspecting public. Things or ideas that would otherwise be seen
as bizarre, vulgar, undesirable, or impossible are inserted into films
in the realm of fantasy. When the viewer watches these films,
his or her mind is left open to suggestion and
the conditioning process begins. These same movies, which are designed
to program the average person, can give the discerning viewer

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a better understanding of the workings and the plan of
the world agenda unquote. So Unlike a lot of modern
conspiracy theorists who like refuse to watch movies because of
predicting programming, Alan Watt thinks it's actually useful to watch
movies because you can get like a future like glimpse
of what is gonna happen in the world, which is
like a neat little difference compared to some of his

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modern contemporaries. Yeah you can. You can. You can watch
Batman realize and occupy Wall Street's happening, yes one year ago, Yeah, totally.
It's predictive programming in the past, in the past, Yeah, yeah, preemptive.
So let's talk about some examples of predictive programming.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Now.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
One thing that people often point to when discussing this
is the television show The Simpsons. Now. A writer and
producer of The Simpsons from back in the nineties, Bill Oakley,
gave a statement to Reuters a few years ago about
the concept of The Simpsons being able to predict real
world events. Quote. I would say in general, when people
say The Simpsons has predicted something, it's that we were

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really just satirizing real life events from years before, and
because history keeps repeating itself, it just seems like we're
predicting things unquote. So I think is actually a really
great observation. The show actually hasn't made very many predictions.
It is often just satirizing actual events from around the
time of the show's production, and lots of those events
we've just now forgotten in the present, and similar events

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keep happening in the present, like viruses or Donald Trump
running for president just like he did in the two thousands.
So it's easy to kind of see these things as
predictions when in fact we've just forgotten the events that
they were a rich satirizing. Now, many of the kind
of vigral quote unquote predictions you see online associated with
The Simpsons actually just have a vastly different context within

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the show, and in many cases are actually just altered
images fan art, photoshops or memes with mislabeled timestamps, or
genuine images satirizing current events, making it appear as if
the Simpsons version happened beforehand, when really it was like
something satirizing an event a month ago, made to look

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like it was actually produced in like two thousand and
seven or something, Right, So it's just a whole bunch
of manipulated media. One instance of something that appears to
be an impressive prediction but is actually just showing how
the creators of the show pay attention to politics is
the purple suit that President Lisa wears, bearing similarity to
Kamala Harris's get up on an inauguration day, but purple

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was also worn by Michelle Obama and Hillary Clinton during
previous inauguration days. It's the color of the Suffagette movement,
and it tends to symbolize unity between red and blue states.
It's a very common thing that women wear at inauguration day,
so like it's just a good guess. So there's a
lot of stuff like that. Now, probably the most famous

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example of the Simpsons predictive power is probably the nine
to eleven poster from the New York episode. Now, there
is a wealth of eerie nine to eleven imagery from
years before the attack, either associated with the date itself,
destruction of the Twin Towers, or in the case of
the Simpsons, both Now as for the others, nine to
one one is just a common number in the US,

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so you see a pop up in a lot of stuff.
And the Twin Towers, as well as the Statue of Liberty,
the Empire State, and the Chrysler Building are all often
used in like post apocalyptic or like societal collapse destructive artwork.
Of course, there was the bombing at the World Trade
Center like a decade prior, and it's really easy now
just to focus on instances of art depicting the Twin Towers. Right,

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we have Michael Keaton's The Squeeze from nineteen eighty seven,
Cookie Monster eating the Twin Towers in nineteen seventy six,
The Towers disintegrating in the nineteen ninety three Mario movie,
The Infamous Illuminati Card Game, The Coup's Party music album cover,
and my personal favorite instance, the pilot episode of the
X Files of spinoff show The Lone Gunmen, in which

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members of the US government deep State remotely hijack a
commercial airliner to crash it into the world tranessetter, to
blame it on terrorists and start a new war in
the Middle East. This episode aired six months before nine
to eleven. It is the funniest thing. It's wild, it's
like specifically being like an X Files a spin off.
It's just gold hilarious stuff. And obviously for another predictive

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programming type thing. In the wake of COVID nineteen, many
have pointed out that movies like Contagion or even zombie
media are instances of predictive programming to get the public
to accept a massive global pandemic, when in most cases
it's actually just like scientists being like, hey, a pandemic
could probably be a big problem, and then screenwriters being like, oh,
let's write a movie about a pandemic, right, very easy.

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joined by Robert Evans to give his thoughts on the
predictive power of the Simpsons.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
Hello Robert, Hey, you know Garrison. Once upon a time
I watched the Simpsons episode where Homer decides not to
go to church instead to stay asleep on Sunday all day,
and that really kind of predicted me sleeping in this
morning after getting in on a late night flight last
night and missing the start of this recording. So the

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power of predictive programming simply cannot be denied. Because there's
a scene in that where Homer like closes his eyes
and curls his to and pulls his cover cepo for
himself when he's avoiding church. That really predicted me at
about eleven am this morning.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Well that's great. Do you know who else is good
at predictive programming? Batman? Okay, so we've already talked a
little bit about some of the predictive programming conspiracies based
on The Dark Knight Rises. In the first segment of
our Occupy Gotham City episode, you know how the Aurora
Colorado shooter was a modern MK Ultra victim program to

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distract from the software leaks that'll expose the corrupt elites
because his father worked on predictive algorithms for the financial sector,
just like the plot of The Dark Knight Rises. It's
not the plot of the Darkness, not at all. But
let's not forget that the movie also conditioned us to
accept a major attack on a big sporting event, something
which has also not really happened. So I'll actually be

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seeing Clyde Lewis again next week, so I will try
to get his thoughts on his Dark Nights it Rises
failed predictions. We'll see, We'll see how. We'll see how
that goes for me. But those are not the only
conspiracy theories around this movie. For the next one, we
will turn to the King of the Lizard People, David
ike Ah, there we go. He claims that when the

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GCPD are trying to track down the location of Bain's
nuclear reactor, there's a shot of a map on which
there is a location marked as Sandy Hook. And you'll
never guess what happened after the Dark came out. God
yeah yeah so then so yeah, now I've I've I've

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looked into this a decent bit, because yes, there is
there is a location on the map of Gotham City
marked Sandy Hook. Now this is probably named after Sandy Hook,
New Jersey, just south of New York City, as on
the Batman map it is, uh, it is an island
that is just south of Gotham City. In the comics,
it's called Tri Corner Island for like, the specific map

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of Gotham they used is from like the nineteen nineties,
and it's called Tri Corner Island. I think they renamed
it to Sandy Hook in The Dark Knet rises. So
a similar map in the movie was used for marketing
materials that labeled Sandy Hook as a neighborhood in Gotham,
and this map also contained a neighborhood called the Narrows,
a common Gotham borough in Batman lore. The Sandy Hook shooting.

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This led schools in Narrows, Virginia to delay their returnive
students for winter break to install additional security precautions, and
this was all based on a conspiracy article titled is
Narrows the site of the next school massacred? Of course
it wasn't, but clear, folks.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
There are Sandy hooks towns named Sandy Hooks in Connecticut, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi,
and Missouri, Yes, Virginia, Wisconsin. Like it's it's there's a
lot of them. We've made a lot of them. There's
a lot of places that are sandy and look like
a hook.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
And the secondary problem with this is that we have
school shootings in so many places that if you just
have a map in any movie, there's like a one
in twelve chance that there's going to be a shooting there. Now,
so great, great society we've built.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
I do kind of wonder is this something that we've
like inoculated ourselves against by having so many school shootings,
like because you could never Sandy Hook got so much
attention because like we didn't have as many shootings back
then and it was so terrible, and like maybe now
we move on to because it's like what you're talking
about elements of this, but like people obsessed are still

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obsessed over the Sandy Hook shooting today in a way
that like, I don't think most mass shooting victims have
to deal with, like it becoming the center of this
national mania campaign.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah, and many pointed out that this, this Batman conspiracy
theory is kind of incongruent with other Sandy Hook conspiracy theories,
being like it's supposed to be a big shocking incident
to get people to start to start like wanting gun
control versus why would they try to warn us about it,
about it happening, if it was, if the point of

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it is to be shocking, like, it doesn't quite make
sense as most conspiracy theories do. But David Ike said,
quote the Dark Knight rises is classic Saturn symbolism, and
Satanists worship Saturn. So there you go. Now, curiously, do
you know who else lives in Sandy Hook? Suzanne Collins,

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the author of The Hunger Games, which leads us to
our next topic, the Hunger Games. I found this amazing
blog called Through Ancient Eyes by this British guy named Neil,
who's obsessed with the occult and is like a David
Ike fanboy. This this blog is glorious, So I will

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I'll start by by by reading the The opening opening
paragraph from this blog quote, don't think for a minute
that the script for the Hunger Games books is purely fiction.
Here we have predictive programming at its finest. What I
saw was the second part of a three part narrative
that clearly plants ideas of acceptance, sacrifice, and revolution in

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the minds of youth. The books are awash with symbols
and archetypes that seem to be classic programming devices, and
more alarmingly, the books seem to project a very viable
future for not only America, but for the world.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
I mean, look, he's not entirely wrong. Because of all
of the pieces of revolutionary literature and nonfiction of that
have come out during our lifetimes, the Hunger Games has
inspired a lot more revolutions.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
Absolutely else, Absolutely, That's why this one is so fun.
It's because, no, like twenty twenty was, like, a not
insignificant part of twenty twenty was due to a whole
bunch of kids growing up with The Hunger Games.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
No, No, I know people who are still fighting in
the jungle. So in part because of that book.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yes, exactly, So we will get into that in a
bit now. Neil believes that the country of PanAm is
quote clearly a reference to both Arcadia and the Greek
god Pan unquote.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
It's an author who was up late at night looking
for country names and remember it in an old airline
like that's.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
What was going on. The region of Arcadia was home
to pan and characterized by a vast wilderness with its
lavish parties for the god of the wild and his nymphs. Quote.
The Hunger Game's capital is an urban forest of the gods.
In its classic symbolic reversal of the true meaning, it
becomes a city dedicated to all that would be the
opposite of true freedom unquote. Now Neil loves symbolic reversal.

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How you will see something depicted that is like, you know,
like being against tautalitarian governments. This is actually symbolic reversal
where it's actually pro authoritarian governments. Because this is this
is how he talks about the entire the entirety of
the movie and how it's actually trying to like seed

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acceptance for a one world order, a military police estate
similar to David Ike. Neil also notes the Saturnian symbolism
with the goat imagery of the astral signed Capricorn, linking
to pan as well as the composite representation of the
devil image Baphomet. Now I'm not a planetary magic guy

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in general, but Saturn is often linked to like the harvest, destruction, chaos.
It's it's a whole thing. But Neil says, quote both
Capricorn and Aquarius are ruled by Saturn and it's hidden
vibrationality effect on the powers that be banking, law, education. Therefore,
PanAm is the ultimate Saturn city of the future. PanAm

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is very much the typical totalitarian future, not Sea Lake City.
It is also where that links to pandemonium in the
form of a pandemic. Is the Hunger Games preparing the
youth of today for some kind of tyrannical future born
out of the events of the next decade that will
lead to global pandemonium, which is unfortunately a pretty good

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prediction coming from like coming from like the early twenty tens. Yeah,
they kind of were talking about a pandemic that leads
to global unrest repelling against a tyrannical future. So pretty
pretty good analysis by Neil there. Now, Neil also notes,
you know, curious linkages between the segregated twelve districts of PanAm,

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just as our perception of time is governed by twelve
hours and months. Oh my god. He breaks down PanAm
even further, claiming that the letter E and the letter
M are like numerology references, the E linking to the
intel and Saturn like explorer logos, and Neil says quote

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according to some researchers, which is a great way to
start a sentence. According to some researchers, the letter E
is a very important letter number because it represents the
fifth essence or element, the power of trends. No as
the Jermatria stortage. Oh yeah, absolutely absolutely. He goes all

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out on the letter M. The letter m's a very
important letter in the mystery schools of antiquity, uh huh,
being the numerology equivalent of thirteen. This of course relates
to the thirteen original districts, or the twelve secretors around
the one capitol. Oh yeah, sure, there are of course
twelve jurors and one judge. The M or the thirteenth letter,

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is the master with twelve disciples, and esoterically speaking, thirteen
is the experiencer of the twelve signs of the zodiac.
There are twelve months in the Gregorian sun calendar and
thirteen months in the lunar calendar. There were thirteen districts,
but now only twelve remains. There were thirteen colonies. The
US is Satanism, So true, so true. Mia.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
There's a lot of talk about how like kids can't
read anymore because how we fucked up like reading education,
you know, around like the early aughts and shit, and
like some the damage that that's done. But this is
showing that, Like you've got a bunch of boomers who
are going through these books, who are reading them very carefully,
who are googling every word in them to see if
there's different things. Yeah, and they catch all of this,

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like put all this weird maniaction together, But they don't
just get that, like, yeah, if you tell kids a
simple story about another young person overthrowing a tyrannical government,
maybe they'll burn down their capital building. Absolutely, it's happened before,
and it'll happen again.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Neil gets obsessed with all these little, tiny, tiny rabbit
holes that are ultimately meaningless, and like misses the very
glaring obvious thing right before his eyes. He says, numbers
and letters are vibrational codes that affect the subconscious. The
more I look at Saturn symbolism, the more I see
a thought form, waveform, or a vibrational pattern that permeates

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the collective thinking of humanity.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
Now you miss the obvious and more like there's all
this obsession with like numerology, and it's like, well, no,
A big part of why the Hunger Games caught on
to people and was like so easy to like meme
and spread as part of these revolutionary actions is they
had like a thing, a hand thing that you did.
They had a little salute and like kids could do
it to each other.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
It's the Neil is not a fan of the salute,
by the way, Well that's good.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
I'm sure he's got some fascinating opinions on that shit.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Oh he sure does, and we will hear his extremely
fascinating opinions on the three finger salute, as well as
other Hunger Games conspiracies and new upcoming predictive programming conspiracies
based around the Civil War movie in the next episode.
So stay tuned tomorrow for even more exciting news on

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how you can predict the future by watching movies.

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