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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Also media.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Oh yeah, that wasn't the opening of the podcast, okay,
or unless it was. I guess it was because we
were recording Welcome to It could happen here, Harrison. I
had to open an episode about a terrible, terrible piece
of voice acting history with some horrible voice acting of
my own.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
It was the only right way.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
It's true, It's true, but there has been some really
bad voice acting going around lately. Yes, oh boy, So
do you know what we're going to talk about today, Robert.
We're going to talk about the South Park of X.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
And I know what you're all wondering, what the fuck
is X? Did you guys? Is that a placeholder? Did
you like type in a placeholder because you forgot the
name of what this is? The South Park of or whatever? No, no, no,
we're talking about Twitter.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
We are talking about the first animated sit slash calm
on X slash Twitter, titled The New Norm Show. Not
to be confused with the twenty twenty two low budget
movie The New Norm. This is a new animated project
from the great minds over at Dave Rubin Incorporated. Yeah,
(01:15):
was so bad but also so insightful that I did
a whole bunch of drugs and wrote about two thousand
words about this project and uncovered some kind of shocking
things that we will slowly get into. I first will
just want to go over the mini pilot itself, because
right now the only thing that's out is like this
(01:36):
three minute or so little mini pilot, and we'll get
into why this is the only thing that's out right now.
But I first just want to do kind of like
a short play by play, and it will be short
because it's again it's only three minutes of what happens
in this new perspective animated sitcom that they want to
air on Twitter dot com now known as x SO.
(01:59):
I think the first thing you need to know about it,
you know, besides you know, the Dave rubeness of it all.
It looks like early two thousands flash animation, like really
bad early two thousands flash animation. It's not good.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
It's not good.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
None of the characters can like really express things, and
the perspective is always a little bit off. Yeah, it
looks like something like a moderately competent person could have
animated in this course of an afternoon if the people
paying them did not actually want anything that looked very good.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Well, and I think that is kind of what happened.
They posted one video showing the animating process, and it
does look like just one person did it in like
a day. So anyway, it starts with an older man
sitting in a living room chair scratching at an ankle monitor.
He reaches for a beer, only to find that it's
been woke afied with rainbow packaging. The man reacts in horror,
and his more liberal daughter remarks progress, it's the new norm,
(02:54):
and then a pandering a country music theme song plays,
which we will play for you later just because it's
so bad.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
We're going to have to.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I want to start just because this is the first
shot of the episode and it was the first thing
in the episode that made me very angry. And it's
how small his feet are, like, especially if you're going
to have rob Lyfield. He's got the rob Lyfield feet.
And it's this is particularly a problem because the ankle
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monitor doesn't look like it's going to be a one
off joke, because he doesn't just have an ankle monitor.
He has like an evil Amazon Alexa that looks a
little bit like it's but it's gotten some howl nine
thousand DNA in it that every time he says something
that's not woke enough, it it yells at him.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Right offensive?
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Offensive?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah, Yeah, the the the fantasy progressive government that is
in charge in his uh in this cartoon world has
forced him to wear an ankle monitor because he's not
woke enough. And so I'm guessing that's going to be
a recurrent bit. And if he has this sension, ankle
monitor is a recurrent bit. His feet shouldn't look like
the ankle monitor should always be falling off of them.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
No, it's so loose.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
It's so really bad animation, right, Like, I'm not even
saying that's a good bit, But if that's your bit,
you have to actually design the characters to sell the bit,
as opposed to me constantly thinking how is that fucking
ankle monitor staying on his goddamn ankle anyway, whatever.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
The character's not designed with the ankle monitor in mind.
That was a later edition, so definitely. After the theme song,
the man addresses the audience. He says, I'm the old norm.
I want normal beer.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
God damn it.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
I just want to point out this is like the
only character that gets an introduction. We don't really learned
almost anyone else's names except for one other character, which
is just great, great for like a pilot. Anyway, So
he steps towards his front door and the ankle monitor
starts beeping. He blames his liberal daughter for being put
on house arrest for quote unquote threatening the school board,
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which he says he did because the school was quote
brainwashing kids into thinking girl aren't girls and men aren't men.
His daughter says, sometimes they're neither or both, or dressed
like dogs. Anyway. His wife comes home.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Oh god, yeah, there's a real furry obsession in this show.
I guess we'll talk about that later too.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Because this was birth years ago. This is not like
a modern current take on wokeism. But his wife comes
home and with her is someone wearing a COVID mask
sporting a pink mohawk. And here I'm going to play
our first clip.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
What's that warning?
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Actually, that is one of my pronouns. Also, they them
and me?
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Your non binary? How do you know that word?
Speaker 5 (05:45):
I learned it in school.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
That's why I'm locked up.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Nor the judge agreed to conditional parole?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
What condition? Where is my room? That's saying? Here?
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Chaz is part of the new government program.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
To re educate homophobic, transphobic, racist Charlie.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Finally someone normal. I don't understand you're black? Did that
just black whisper? You're his friend and boss.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
So something that isn't fully conveyed just through the sound
is that when the daughter finds out that this new
person is non binary, she gets like big, big, like
lovey eyes.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
And the black boss character, he is played by failed
politician Larry Elder, and he.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Oh my god, that's Larry Elder. Yes, Oh that's funny,
that's so funny.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
He's just there to show that black people like norm right, yes, exactly,
that the progressives actually are racist for not liking Norm
because the only black person they're going to put in this.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Show thinks that he's rad.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
It's just a normal thing that you do if you're
a right wing hack making a a low budget cartoon.
He is wearing, by the way, a Washington Redskins hat
and shirt, and his shirt discontinued four years ago. Yeah,
and his first his opening line in the show is
him coming in and saying, I come over here to
escape woke.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah. One thing I do think is interesting.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Is that both this character because Larry Elder makes a
note that like his son is about to transition and
is at least non binary. They don't really know what
any of this means, so a little bit of the
script is unclear as to what these kids actually how
they identify. And obviously Norm's daughter is I don't know
if she's non binary or just like into a like
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generally queer, but like.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
That is the impression you're left with.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
And again, if you actually were someone who was kind
of conservative, conservative sympathetic, like Mike Judge making like a cartoon,
you can actually get some mileage out of the accepting
the idea that like, Okay, you've got these curmudgeonly older people,
and you've got their kids who are like way more
open about this kind of stuff, and there's there's there's
(08:05):
room for plots as King of the Hill did pretty
well that kind of lampoon the culture in general, but
it requires a little more self awareness. Like again, if
there was a little bit you might wonder, like, what
are we saying if we're the people making this right
wing piece of propaganda that all of the young people
feel very differently about gender than their parents.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Well, yeah, that's why Norm keeps saying I'm the old Norm.
I want to year And the show is called The
New Norm, not to be confused with the nineteen ninety
nine ABC sympcom storing Norm MacDonald called it the Norm Shows.
It's literally right, it's literally in the name. It's about
you know how these people cannot cannot accept that times change,
and they slowly get outdated social beliefs. Anyway, every single
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time that Norm addresses the non binary character, referring to
them as pronoun or that his little AI Amazon assistant
just bleeps out offensive. Offensive Jazz is here to re
educate Norm in non bonary studies.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
I'm allergic to dogs.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
It's okay. Billy is an emotional support dog and non binary.
Oh okay, then good dog.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Just just amazing voice acting in that cliff and with
a helpful laugh track, so you know what is a
joke and when you're supposed to laugh, which is so
embarrassing for an animated sitcom to put on a laugh track,
like oh my god, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
It smacks of desperation because nobody really liked nobody misses
laugh tracks.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Laugh tracks are like if you have a live studio audience,
you know, a laugh track kind of like makes sense,
this is this is an animated sitcom. It's like if
there's a laugh track on like Rick and Morty or
like the Simpsons, Like what the fuck are you doing?
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Anyway, the two men sit down to watch sports, and
Larry Elder laments that a non binary person is present
in the room and starts complaining about his child.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
I come here to get away from woke trouble at home.
Oh my boy or whatever it calls themselves now is
thinking about transitioning.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
That's try Regina.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Transitioning to what another humble whatever it calls themself now,
amazing pronoun usage, another fumble now. Norm tosses the gay
beer to Chaz, the non binary character of Jazz Jazz.
Chaz fumbles the catch and says, that's.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Not even that's not a gay zoomer name.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Chazz is like something like, that's that's very gen x jazz.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Totally Yeah, well again, because this is all made by
gen X people.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Yeah, exactly, yes.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Chaz fumbles the catch and says that they can't drink
because they're not twenty one, and Larry Elder replies, y'all
influence my boy, and I cut off his junk but
draw a line at beer, and then Chaz hides behind
the couch to call upper level government operatives who are
advising them on this re education assignment. I got it.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Before we get into this, I want to start with
what doesn't make sense about that bit, which is that
if Chaz was straight edge, right, and they were kind
of again, if they actually knew anything about like the
real sort of culturals kind of divides that are coming
in around gen Z and gen Alfa, they could have
made a point that like, yeah, this generation of kids
doesn't get drunk and do drugs the way like millennials did,
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and that's an actual like cultural cleavage point. But Chaz
is not straight edge. Chas is just saying I cannot
legally drink beer.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Which right, no gay person has ever said, which nogay,
But it like the fact that unless they're straight edge. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Larry Elder then comes in and says like, oh, this
is a characteristic but it wasn't like a characteristic of
you queer gen Z kids. But the queer gen Z
kid did not express that as like a characteristic of
his identity.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Who's just stating this is.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Illegal because it's illegal? Yeah, very yeah. Anyway, anyway, when
Chaz is conference calling with this this upper level government
we have, we have this general in like a in
like a kink dog mask who barks, and there's a
trans woman admiral who says, find a way to break him,
maybe we can fix the country. I believe the admiral
(12:23):
is a really transphobic character of US Assistant Secretary for Health,
Rachel Levine. And yeah, it's not even a good character.
It's just it's just doesn't look there is there. There's
also another another character which Robert identified as a possible
hate crime and and tasked me with locating who this
person is. And I believe with about one hundred percent
(12:45):
certainty that this is a character of Sam Brinton, who
was appointed the Deputy Assistant Secretary of Spent Fuel and
Waste Disposition in the Office Nuclear Energy. Are you kidding
Apartment of Energy? Now?
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Ah?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
This people are so fucking conservative social media brain, what
are you fucking come on?
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Brenton may be well known to some of our listeners
as being let go in late twenty twenty two after
being linked to a series of airport luggage thefts. One
of the funniest things that's ever happened. This person could
not stop stealing luggage from airports so much that they
got fired from the Department of Energy.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
That's amazing.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
This this goes back to like twenty eighteen years. God,
there's funny years of airport It's so funny. But again,
if this was a good comedy thing, they would have
some kind of bit like maybe maybe they would be
holding like a like a like a you know, like
a collection of luggage. But no, they're just they're just
they're just standing behind the progress Pride flight Like that's it.
Like it's not funny.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah, because again because the actual funny thing about this
would be to have like your government character be someone
at the Department of Energy who got taxed with this
through some sort of incoherent DEI narrative and also a
character trait as they are always stealing luggage and like
you could actually bear it. It's around that over time.
But they just they threw all these people in knowing
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that like the two hundred people who are as right
wing online as them would get who all these were
as opposed to doing the thing that you would do
if you were actually making a show for mainstream consumption,
which is like make fun of people that the audience
will recognize. Throw with Joe Biden in there right, like
obviously we're doing this in twenty twenty four, Like where
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is anyone that someone who's not completely lost their mind
to this stuff will recognize?
Speaker 4 (14:34):
And this is this is the climax of the pilot.
It's it's so it's so bad. After after Chaz has
this little phone call, the fake camera zooms back to
show a fake animated studio audience, and the bad country
theme song plays once again, and now I will play
it for you because this section is both so pandering
(14:57):
but also oddly genuine to it's the end newly same as.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Everything's changing and I don't know this woven Marilyn, thank
God very longlast and his ship those means makes sister
all free speech.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
When the song goes, thank god for Elon Musk and
his ship, post memes he's the home for free speech,
and unvoiced animated Elon Musk pops through the door for
no reason.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
And he's someone.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Someone on Twitter took a screen grab off the Elon
Musk and said they gave him that in Smith look,
and he does look like one of the fish people
from insmuth. That's not a flattering caricature. I think it's
meant to be.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
It is because like it's it's I don't know. This
is a really interesting moment because this is where it
gets like kind of like genuine. Jess Hawkin wrote, the
part that blows my mind about this video is the
Elon Musk cameo where the bitterness and resentment of the
video melts away into still believing in Santa Claus and
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it gets it gets just so weirdly genuine with this,
with this like the kind of heartfelt, saccharine Elon Musk
ending Well.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Speaking of genuine, Garrison, the main thing that's genuine is
our love of these sponsors.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Okay, we are packed. So there after watching this pilot,
there's there's a lot of questions to be asked. Why
is there a fake animated studio audience? Uh, you know,
pretty bad. My friend Ellie Erman pointed out, like why
is the protagonist so unpleasant even in their perfect fantasy world?
And also why is the word sitcom hyphenated in the
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title something that you don't do? Just a lot of
a lot of baffling things. So there was there was
a mix of reactions to this. You know, some of
the blue checks on Twitter were kind of lapping this
stuff up. One person with the username Amazing Gaming Productions wrote,
I know some people are critiquing it, but my fee
on saying I laughed at a couple points. It's a
good start. I hope you continue to work on it.
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We need all of the indie material we can create.
And included in this tweet is a picture of a
very poorly drawn avatar saying, Hi, my name is Indye David.
I'm here to fight Goliath Mainstream Oh my god is
a gamer Gate two themed gaming company who wants to
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create anti woke games. They've done in nothing. They just
post really bad artwork and I cannot overstate how bad.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Why his next so wide and so long?
Speaker 4 (17:55):
For how bad the TV show's animation is this? This
reply was just so bad I had to pointed out
just incredible.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Now, Dave Rubin, the possible alleged potential most likely creator
of the show, does air his work on Blaze TV.
You know by by Glenn Beck, and even even other
Glenn Beck employees could not could not help but point
out how terrible this is.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Logan Hall, writer for Glenn Beck's The Blaze wrote, quote,
TV shows on leftism the cringiest, most unwatchable, nauseating trash
ever created TV shows on conservatism somehow even worse and
one of the most brain poisoned Conservative cartoonists George Acxipolos
basically like a discount stone Toss wrote quote south Park
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head ed, this has as much edge as an uncooked
sour dough. Between this and the Daily Wires limp cartoon,
they may as well be flushing money down the toilet.
He then went on to say, give me a small team,
a million dollars and total creative control, and we will
make a cartoon pilot that will melt faces. So again
he just wants to take to get his own his
own TV show, But a whole bunch of these, you know,
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kind of right wing cultural critics were we're not we're
not infused with this, with this outing because it's because
it's really bad. So I want to get into kind
of who is behind this now the full I hesitate
to say creative team, but the people team, Yeah, the
team behind the New Norm show, not to be confused
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with the Fox two season documentary show The New Norm
Have been have been largely kept secret, possibly out of
fears of humiliation.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah, that's how you know it's a good show.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
But we at least do know some of the voice cast. Right,
Larry Elder plays the token black conservative who only exists
to affirm that the main character isn't actually racist. Now,
I doubt Larry Elder has much involvement beyond lending his
voice and the other two confirmed voice Again, I hesitate
to use the word talent or even actor, but the
other two voice contributors are Dave Rubin and jpc Now,
(20:00):
I believe these two could be much more critical to
like what makes up the comedy of the New Norm Show,
not to be confused with the Oatly Oat Milk series
of online puppet shorts titled The New Norm Anal Show. Now,
I assume most people listening to this are familiar with
Dave Rubin. Like many of these right wing influencers, he's
a failed comedian turned political podcaster who's been positioning himself
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further and further to the right over the course of
the last decade.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Now.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
JP Sears was a quote unquote holistic life coach who
turned kind of into like a YouTube skeptic type satirical comedian,
and while trying to parody new age WU and conspiracy theories,
JP was peddling his own pseudoscience and adopting more and
more conspiratorial beliefs. Over time, JP and his comedy began
moving further and further to the right. But the COVID
(20:47):
nineteen lockdown was kind of the breaking point where he
went all in on anti VAXX, COVID nineteen and January
sixth conspiracy theories. But I think there has to be
at least one other contributor, you know, behind like the
art and design of the show, and I can't I
can't figure out who that is. I scrolled through all
of the tweets to try to find out if this
account had another name. I can't find out who exactly
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this other person is. There is there is one mystery,
one mystery component. But one interesting thing I did uncover
is that the New Norm show, not to be confused
with the twenty twelve TV show, The New Normal has
been in production in some form for over four years.
They've been working on this for over four years. There's
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one frame from a video titled Character Sketch Evolutions posted
on September nineteenth of last year, and this show's project
files stretching all the way back to January of twenty twenty.
They've been working on this since January twenty twenty. Early
sketches of the daughter feature and Antifa and transgender tattoo
on her left arm. Also, she has a kefia and
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posters that read vegans for Palestine, all in twenty twenty artwork.
Wow yeah, yeaow. That's kind of fascinating because the daughter
character in the published pilot is just wearing like a
hoodie and like a beanie. There's there's none of.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
These act like some bracelets that have like a there's
at least one of her bracelets has a rainbow on it,
which I think is the only queer signaling or like
kind of it really signaling of any kind that we get.
And she has an Apple watch because lo ol gen z.
But yeah, the otherwise her design is completely boring, like
there's nothing going on.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
And I found this other, this other thing that is
maybe a little bit you know, behind the scenes, look
at what this may have been. So last March, this
account posted a little comic strip saying, all, look at
how it began as a comic strip so possibly this
may have originated as not being an animated series but
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instead an online webcomic, which might explain a few things.
And also that I assume the mystery contributor that we
don't know probably was working on the webcomic, and then
it kind of rope in and more people in the series.
But I am going to read out this webcomic just
because it is fascinatingly bad.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Oh my god, Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Norm says, for twenty years our address was seven Columbus Ave.
Now it's Colin Kaepernick Drive. That's his daughter saying that,
and everyone thinks I feel so. The mom says fancy,
the daughter says woke, and Norm says sick. And then
a whole bunch of news crews show up at Norm's
front door. They say, what's it like to live in
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the most woke address in town? And Norman says, I
refuse to call it, Callin Kaepernick Drive. It's Columbus Ave.
The news media says, any last words before the angry
mob shows up. Should we call a fire department for you?
And Norm says, I thought you snowflakes defunded them too.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
It's not even a no.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
No one was talking about defunding the fire department not
true anyway.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
It's it's like it's just not even a joke, right,
like the there's not like a release of tensionarying with
like the the end bit being like him saying, why
would we call the fire department you defunded that it's
not it's like it's not a joke.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
No, Like the last series of panels are even more disconnected. Yeah,
they are back inside. The doors closed. Norman says Chloe,
which I guess is his daughter's name, never said in
the pilot, Chloe. Why must your generation change everything? And
then the doorbell rings delivery. The mom answers the door
and says, sorry, wrong address. This is now Colin Kaepernick Drive.
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Ben Affleck Boulevard is two streets down where James Woods
Parkway used to be. My god, that's what that even
that is that even do you really like is it?
They were okay James would get fallen. They replaced it
with ben Affleck Boulevard.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
If you could, if you were someone who was like
kind of conservative but not completely brain poisoned, you could
actually get some good bits out of Like they changed
the name of this street from Columbus avenue to Colin
kaepern to drive. Now, the smart way to play off
of that would be to make it very clear that
the town has a bunch of existing issues with inequality
and racism that they have not dealt with in lieu
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of changing the name of a single street and pretending
things are better. And you can actually like there's things
you could do with that were you actually making comedy.
But like the fact that they the fact that the
escalation is rather than sort of like examining this world
and like why shit like this gets done just to
kind of like make these like performative gestures instead, it's like,
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and next they're going to replace James Woods with Ben Affleck,
which very good? Do the gen Z kids do the
progressives like Ben Affleck? Does anyone feel all that strongly
about ben Affleck?
Speaker 4 (25:42):
No, we had to start naving streets after ben Affleck. Also,
why would there be a James Woods park Way anyway? Whatever?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Yeah, who's naming a street after name a thing James
Woods has been.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
In Like, oh my god. So the marketing of this
pilot is even is almost as baffling as the pilot itself. Right,
there's a few slogans they like to use, first of all,
the South Park of X, which is already just brilliant.
It's hard legalize humor, very very funny, and make America
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funny again. They will often just tweet these phrases out
with no context, and sure, why not. The home page
on their website reads quote The New Norm not to
be confused with the ongoing podcast series. The New Norm
is an animated sitcom for our woke world, an edgy
yet family friendly comedy that shines a funny light on
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today's most divisive issues and gives Americans a safe space
to come together and laugh. Just fantastic stuff.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Great, great, I love again.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I made a comment about this, but I love that
they're calling this the South Park of X because like
the South Park, guys would never put a cartoon or
anything else on X because they actually make things that
are come martially successful and so real companies will buy
their shows, whereas if you're putting something on X, it
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means that there's no.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Money in what you're doing. It means that you your
show is going to.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Be monetized alongside those ads for games that don't exist
that just show like boy like little action cartoon characters
leaping into the legs of like very horny drawings of
gorgans and shit and actual straight up pornography because there
is no money on X family friendly so funny.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Now, there are a few reviews that they post on
the new norm website. Bill Mahers has brilliant, Dave Rubins
has beautiful, Larry Elders has relevant, timely and funny. I'm in,
and Kevin He's literally in. He's one of the voices,
so is Stave Ruben, and Kevin Sorbo says All in
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the Family for our time?
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Uh, Robert, well, what is All in the Family? Because
I am a zoom I need you explain a couple
of things. All in the Family was a groundbreaking sitcom
show from like fifteen or twenty years before you were born.
Even longer than that.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I mean it was like it was like the seventies, right, yeah,
oh shit, it was like thirty or forty years before
you were born.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Yes, it's way way before my time. It's before your time.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Yes, yes it is. And uh Kevin Sorbo do you
know who Kevin Sorbo was?
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Even Robert I grew up watching Christian movies. I am
intimately familiar with Kevin Sorbo.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Okay, okay, but I know why he actually got famous. Yes,
in a show that again predates your existence.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
But it's now just your bad Christian actor.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
Now.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
These reviews are funny, not only because two of these
people giving reviews on the site are literally in the pilot,
but also let's look at the Bill Maher quote brilliant.
Do you think Bill Maher has seen this pilot?
Speaker 3 (28:57):
No?
Speaker 4 (28:57):
I don't. He doesn't. No, do you? Of course, because
underneath the text that says end quotes brilliant, it says
brilliant Bill Maher, HBO Real Time Host, And then in
much smaller text, it says, speaking of the show creator's
previous work featured on HBO, he's just talking about Dave
Rubin being interviewed on his show. At some point Bill
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Maher said brilliant to Dave Rubin, And now they're using
this as a quote endorsing this show.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Man.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
I kind of I feel, like, so fifteen years or
so ago, back when he was still alive, Roger Ebert
shared one of my articles that I wrote for Cracked,
and I kind of want to take his feedback on
that and claim that, like like dressing up his feedback
for our podcast, Roger Ebert loves this show that was
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made ten years after he died. Well he doesn't, but
he said something nice about something else I did a
long time ago, so I think he would support.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Show creator's previous work. Amazing. And I we will return
to the Kevin Sorbo quote about All in the Family
for our time. Yes again, Like this isn't even just
a parody of like All in the Family. They're they're
taking certain they're they're taking certain elements, but but not
like actually satirizing them. They're just kind of doing them again.
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And do you know what we're gonna do again.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Robert, good ads.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
We're gonna we arena, we are gonna go to ad.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
We're going We're going to transition, which the people who
make this show would really hate.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Okay, we are back. I have a few images from
the from the marketing of this that you're gonna love.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Robert.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Back in September, the New Norm shows, Twitter posted this
picture It's a very bad.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Cardome, Mike God, Ben.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Shapiro, Tucker Carlson, and Joe Rogan.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
What are these?
Speaker 4 (30:56):
It has one like and textra says, who who is
your Favett a small they made Bit Shapiro and Joe rokan.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
And there is another another image of norm the titular
character saying thank you Chaya, Rycheck and Elon Musk for
the freedom to say amen. Now that the word amen
was undemonetized. So most of their marketing kind of look
kind of looks like this. It's just it's talking about
other more popular right wing content creators or just praising
Elon Musk. That is most of the marketing for the show.
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It seems their primary marketing strategy seems to be sucking
up to Elon Musk to attract attention from him and
his fan base. Now I haven't seen anyone else talking
about this yet, but the New Norm Show, not to
be confused with the New Norm McDonald Show, actually released
their first video project last March. It was titled Elon
Musk xaoc AI Animation unquote what, with show creator Dave
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Rubin saying the future of animation is AI. The video
starts with an AI image of Elon Musk in a
black suit, with voiceover of norm A dressing Musk saying, Hey, Elon,
check this out. We cut to a congressional deposition where
AOC is questioning Elon Musk, who's wearing a spacesuit about him,
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replying quote unquote true to a meme posted by Norm
saying that AOC is hot but not smart, mister Musk.
There's a slow motion love heart sequence of Elon and
AOC staring at each other, and Elon says, I have
a hands on approach to the world's population crisis. You'll
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never get your hands on me.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
I'm boycotting you.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Then go yourself.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
God, he looks like a cherub in that spacesuit.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
What is so?
Speaker 4 (32:54):
Yeah, here's here's Ai Norm and Ai Elon Musk sitting
in this courtroom. Now. Norm says that it's because of
Elon's reply quote that millions of people saw my post.
So in this, in this like little to no effort.
Ai short. They straight up layout their intentions behind all
of this clamoring for Musk's attention and approval. Right. Their
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goal is that if Elon Musk can see their stuff,
maybe he'll spread it and it will be popular. That's
the intention.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
A nine year old boy, Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
He does. He does look like like cherub. Elon Musk
absolutely yeah, But this is this is their entire strategy, right,
It's to make content that they hope Elon Musk will
see and then boost so that people will give them money.
That's that's the entirety of the bit. In the replies
to this AI short film, everyone who like expressed that
they liked it, saying like so funny or just like
a laugh emoji. The norm account replied to every single
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one of these tweets with a thumbs up emoji. That's it, got,
That's that's it, like sometimes with a flaming thumbs up,
sometimes with a regular thumbs up emoji, but replying to
every single tweet, they just did a thumbs up. It's
so it's so lazy, like like.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Content goes out.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
That's some intern who's getting paid by there in like
or if they're getting paid or whatever, however they're getting evaluated.
They want to be able to claim that they were
doing lots of work. So yeah, they're just going through
and thumbs uping every post.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
That's my wild So.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
This is all kind of reminiscent of The Daily Wire's
own animated comedy Mister Burcham. Right now, mister Burchram, we
talked about in our in Our in Our Daily Wire,
episodes earlier this year, but it was it was pitched
to Fox, like over a decade ago. They even made
a ten minute animatic. Fox passed, and so did every
other network and streaming service also declined to pick up
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the project until until it came across Jeremy Boring's desk
a few years ago.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
And Jeremy Bowring said, Adam Carolla, that's who the kids
love these days.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
So yeah, they they greenlit the show and it is
now airing on The Daily Wire Plus. But most of
the jokes are super outdated because again this was pitched
ten years ago, over ten years ago, so there's a
whole bunch just like Vegan jokes, Like it's jokes that
maybe would have been transgressive in twenty eleven. You know.
Of course, there's like there's like a few updated jokes
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thrown in there, but like not many. So in terms
of the New Norm show, not to be confused with
the many other projects with the same title, only the
three minute pilot episode is out right now right, they
are soliciting more money and that's the main drive of
putting out this pilot is that they are spreading around
this donation link like crazy. They've explicitly said when does
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the first episode drop? Soon? But sooner if y'all give
here with the donation link.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Two other tweets read quote support this show to animate
the first season, and support this show and help fight
the woke mind virus with laughter unquote. I don't think
this will actually ever get made because no one's gonna
support this because it's garbage.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
This is like that reddap Family an FT cartoon exactly
which I'm still hard.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
What they're doing is trying to get you know, like
unfortunate souls to donate money to this, and I don't
think the right wing billionaires are going to be funding
this the same way they fund other Daily Wire projects.
So this seems kind of dead in the water. This
seems like it, you know, not much thought was put
into it. It's lazy. It's also completely stealing a Simpson's
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joke from nineteen ninety nine. This is the big thing
I discovered. So I've been trying to watch more nineties
Simpson lately, Good for You, Good for you, solid move,
And as I was watching the Strea minute pilot, something
started to feel a little bit familiar. And then I
read the Kevin Sorbo review All in the Family for
Our Time, and I realized something, This whole show is
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just stealing a cutaway gag from a nineteen ninety nine
Simpsons episode about a fake sitcom called All in the
Family nineteen ninety nine, in which a new, more woke
and inclusive version of the original show is airing on TV.
And here's a collection of images Robert in my Google
document that shows early concept art of Norm looking exactly
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like the main character.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Of Yeah, Down with the cigar.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
It literally the picture of him in the chair looks traced.
It is the exact same. There is a diverse cast
standing next to him exactly.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
The woman's study major in her birkenstocks exactly got a
rabbi in there as opposed to the which is some
nineties diversity com.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
But like, and I remember that bit too, which.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Is like a it's actually because there were conservatives writing
on The Simpsons in the nineties. One of the John
Swartzwelder was like a famous libertarian, Like he's a but
he's also like funny, and so they made a good
bit about like pec like the the rash of like
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overtly politically correct shows right like it's it's it's a
it's a fun side joke that Schwartzwelder was enough of
a comedian to know is good for about six seconds exactly.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
And I will play those six seconds right now and
at nine thirty All in the Family nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
Who geez did he got me living with an African American,
a semi American, and a woman American there, and I'm.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
Glad, I love Yasul, I love everybody. I wish I'd
shaved my money from the first show.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
See, there's a couple of different jokes there.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
Ye, there's multiple jokes in that three seconds or so.
It's such a good layered joke on the part of
the Simpsons. It has the parody of Archie from All
in the Family kind of being like offensive in an
old fashioned way, you know, bemoaning that he has to
be around all these people, but also saying that he
loves everyone in the way that these kind of shows
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like to play both sides by showing the main character
is still good nature despite his faults. And then he
flips again saying he's he's only come back to do
the show is he needs money. The bit doesn't overstay.
It's welcome it lasts only like ten seconds and yet
is infinitely more funny than the entirety of this three
minute pilot. And Dave Rubin actually thought he could just
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rip off a short to obscure Simpson's joke and stretch
it into an entire show and no one would notice.
So I was really happy to find that this was
just stealing an old Simpson's joke really poorly too. And
because I've been watching more older Simpsons, I've also realized
that a lot of the jokes and Lady ballers are
also just completely stolen from Simpsons, but ripped of the
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context that makes them funny. So all of these like
right wing like cranks were trying to produce this comedy stuff.
They're all just kind of going back to old Simpsons
jokes that people hopefully have like forgotten and are injecting
them without the actual humorous context into all of these
anti woke projects. And it doesn't work. It simply doesn't.
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For one, it's plagiarizing and the second and like secondly,
it's it's just bad. But yes, I will, I will
post some of these comparison pictures on h on my
Twitter at Hungry bow Tie. If you want to see
the uh, the shocking, shocking hard work.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
That was a fine investigation, Garrison, because you're definitely right,
like this is this is a carbon copy of of
a cutaway gag about all in the family.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
That's son fucking funny.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
Even the background house is the same look they have,
the staircase, the.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Door, like it's identical.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
Everything is in the exact same position.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
It's wild. I know they said this.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
They sent this to an animator, like they sent that
screen grab to the animator.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
That's so funny.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
God, this The Simpsons was such a good show and
its golden years that people are still trying to competently
rip it off, and again they compare themselves to like
the South Park of X. South Park even did a
much better job of ripping off the Simpsons and making
that be the focus of an episode that like everyone
rips off the Simpsons because of how how the long
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they've been going on, Like yeah, anyway, whatever.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
They were smart enough to remove the cigar in the
final pilot, but all because because that would be just
so obvious. But all the concept are that they've posted
on Twitter like half a year ago has has him
with a cigar wearing a white button up shirt and
it looks it is it is, it is almost traced.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
It is yea his his? Are they threw on the
vest distract.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
It's it's phenomenal. So yeah, amazing stuff from Dave Rubin.
He I guess shouldn't have quit interning at the at
A at John Stewart back in the two thousands. Maybe
maybe he could have had a better life, but instead
instead we get this. So great job, Dave Rubin. I
wish you only the best in your future creative works.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
This, this is what's gonna get him. That that plush
writing gig on the Rick and Morty season. I don't
know whatever the next one is. I'm sure he's he's
he's on the cusp.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
Oh he's close to breaking through. I can feel it.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
Yeah yeah, all right, right, well I'm good. I'm gonna
go watch some classic Simpsons again. Thank you for reminding me.
Speaker 4 (42:06):
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